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We have maybe 3-4 chances in life to meet someone to spend long time in life and create something. If you miss it's over. There's an element of truth to this when it comes to having a family with children, but otherwise has no basis in reality. Assuming you have made good choices in life and taken care of yourself physically, women will always be able to find companionship. As men get older the numbers begin to shift more and more in their favor (because there are fewer men). Each age presents i…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 10:24 PM
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The evolutionary answer is that the act of getting pregnant requires from women the investment of raising a child, so evolution has rewarded women who are highly selective. The risk for a man is missing the opportunity to have sex with a woman who would have been willing, and evolution has rewarded the men who are most likely to approach. This is also why men are more likely to mistake friendliness with romantic interest - this trait is an important motivating factor to approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:56 PM
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Congratulations on arguing your way into my position. Explaining a thing isn't excusing it, but I'll allow the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 08:26 PM
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That was the entire point....
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:54 PM
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I think for most it is not about her not being entitled to her wants, desires and needs, it's more about the dehumanizing feeling of him not ranking very high on the scoreboard against other men. Some of these men gather in communities like this and shift the blame towards women, but I think its a minority, and largely made up of men who already struggle to connect.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:42 PM
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This is such a good point, because the overwhelming trend of recent decades is of technology leading to ever greater isolation. It is pretty clear that Gen Z is probably the most isolated generation in human history (with the possible exception of cavemen). You are right about jobs - good luck getting one in a world where AI can write everyone the perfect cover letter and resume. The old fashioned tactic of walking through the door might not work most of the time, but I will bet your odds would …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 10:58 PM
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I came across something recently about male desire peaking in the early-40s, but from what I see in the real world, a lot of men lose interest or have other physical limitations. I absolutely think there are men and women who peak in their 40s or 50s, but it becomes highly variable a these ages. I also think these studies may be self-reported surveys, so the truth always more nuanced.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 09:46 PM
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Sexual peak and value are indeed different, and I think both are shaped by biology. When men all cultures gravitate to youth, this is not merely a reflection of society's values. Sexual peak is typically early-30s, around 31-34, coinciding with when the fertility window begins to narrow. I don't think you 40s would be considered sexual peak for most. Hormonal changes can have a pretty dramatic effect. The interesting thing, relating back to OP's point, is that this aligns with women's affairs. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 06:47 PM
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I think you have a really interesting conversation topic, yet you are oversimplifying the nuance. Consider the idea of vows. Be precise. What's established is "women initiate divorce far more than men." That is very different than "women take vows less seriously." In fact, very often they may be opposites. It is easy to imagine a checked out, emotionally detached husband with a highly-invested wife who does all of the emotional work in the marriage. Which of the two has taken their vows more ser…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 10:10 PM
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Agree completely that no one can untaste what has been tasted. However, it is the systems/institutions that shape and enable the culture. When they collapse, so too will the behavior.
/r/BlackPillScience11/06/26 09:20 PM
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Nothing is irreversible. Yes, time moves forward, but trends are always cyclical. Right now all of our institutions are failing, but the time will come when people begin congregating again. It will probably take an emergency, but it will happen. And at that time the gender differences once again reemerge, families will strengthen, and a brand new order will form. And then this same cycle will repeat itself, again and again.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 07:19 PM
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This does a great job of documenting recent trends. Where I think it goes wrong is assuming you can extrapolate these conditions for several generations into the future, instead of considering that all of the conditions documented (male loneliness, incels, etc) will eventually cause the pendulum to swing back the other direction away from individualism. Not that I know what the future looks like, only that history points to everything being cyclical.
/r/BlackPillScience02/06/26 09:53 PM
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Absolutely no one would disagree with the core of your argument. It is better to be single than the wrong partner. This is as common knowledge as anything as ever been. However, there is also a cost of remaining single, and at some point that cost converges and exceeds the cost of finding a partner. The research is very clear that healthy long-term partnerships are substantially better for well-being and resources. It is similar to having children. Being a parent decreases in-the-moment hedonic …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:00 PM
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Look, I didn't vote for the guy, but the other option was a candidate so uninspiring that the party didn't even bother with a primary. Trump is so polarizing that I can see why you'd feel this way, but it's never so simple. Writing off 74 million people as failing a character test because they didn't vote the way you wanted them to is how we lose the ability to build anything. This applies on a national level, and also with your relationships and community.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 08:44 PM
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No, your vote is almost meaningless as a signal of character. You are not who you voted for. A lot of people voted for ending forever wars, closing the border, reducing spending. Reasonable policy positions that reasonable people can hold. They got police state raids and nation building. The character test isn't which button they pressed at the ballot box. The character test is right now. Do they update? Do they push back? Or do they defend their team?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 08:25 PM
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I understand. But in elections we most often are presented with a choice between two horrible options, so how much can we really assume of how someone's vote?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 04:12 AM
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It's a good point, and is also what drives me nuts about modern politics - it took the authentic moral beliefs (how do you feel about vulnerable people, rights, fairness, etc) and made it part of team identity. A lot of the time people don't just have values, they also have to perform them. Independently arriving at a position through lived experience is very different than following what your team believes (or suffer the social cost). It is the difference between values alignment and political …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 09:58 PM
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You are assuming that political alignment is the same as values alignment, but it's usually more about team alignment. What would happen if the team leader suddenly changed their mind on an issue that matters to you? Would your partner hold true to their values and support your rights? Will they fight for you specifically? This is a question of character, not what jersey you wear. I truly think that human connect comes much easier when you stop asking "which side are you on before I decide if yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 09:46 PM
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You describe the return to tradition as a failure, but what if this is pushing through? Progress is not a straight path, and these cycles are literally the mechanism that allows society to solve its deepest problems. The conservative 1950s is what built the middle class, the highway system, universal public education, and so much more. And then the reaction against that gave us civil rights, the environmental movement, the consumer protection movement, and so much more. Notice this - everything …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 05:00 PM
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It is cyclical, predictable and the trend will continue with the younger generations. People are growing up these days in a very different environment. Think about the Boomers growing up post-WWII when everything was very safe and rigid. It is understandable why they had such an impulse to tear down conventions. Young people today grow up watching a world that feels dangerously disordered. We have a shrinking middle class, a broken political system, pandemic shutdowns, war..what happens is these…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 04:43 PM
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No one denies it is a major source of where couples meet, but the majority met through other channels. BTW online dating has been around for over two decades now, and its use has plateaued. Nothing new about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 12:24 AM
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You are holding up this study just like someone would a bible at the door - like it’s meant to be seen but not actually read. Go ahead, open it up, notice how it is just blog post. Yes, it does link to the HCMST study from 2017. Without going into too much detail here, the study didn’t even show >50%. This claim itself was a forecast based on extrapolating a curve from a tiny subset of very recent relationships. The number was also significantly higher than other studies, including the more rece…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 10:43 PM
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They were laughing at a joke, but maybe the reason they laughed is not necessarily so morally damning. You want us to believe this somehow revealed who these men really are. Again, maybe you are right that deep down they all think women's hockey is a joke and they were faking their support the whole time. Or maybe when the President of the United States makes a joke on speakerphone in front of your teammates, there was no other response in the moment but to laugh. Maybe they went home and felt l…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 01:05 AM
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Do any of us actually know for a fact that those hockey players laughed because they're secret misogynists who were faking their support for the women's team the whole time? It is possible? But this post does something I find deeply dishonest, by taking a few seconds of laughter and manufacturing an entire narrative about the human relationships that came before. I actually find this post to be performative, saying "look at me, I see through these men, allow me to demonstrate my values as authen…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 11:07 PM
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Yes, the feeling of emotional intimacy is EXACTLY the same. Truly. But emotional intimacy is not what makes romantic relationship different. There is a whole other set of feelings which don't exist in friendships. Things like resource sharing, exclusivity, commitment, jealousy...feelings which go hand in hand with reproduction. And yes, we men do have challenges with emotional intimacy, and often this is caused by our instinct to save it for romantic relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 11:04 PM
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Let me add to what she said. When a man says "I was nice, where's my reward?" - this very statement reveals the kindness wasn't what it appeared to be. It was done more as manipulation than from genuine character. I actually think women do very much value kindness, but it doesn't work as a "tactic" simply because there is a long history, literally dating back millions, of years of men deceiving women of their intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 07:51 PM
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Very true. Men do screen for these traits. What I am saying is a career-focussed woman doesn't become sexually unattractive to men. In fact, career success can add to her traditional fertility attractiveness cues. However, I think being a passive, unambitious man becomes sexually unattractive to most women
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 08:36 PM
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Men went along with it in part because they ways in which women changed didn't require altering what men find attractive. Throughout history, men have never screened out women for being economically successful or ambitious. Now consider what would be required for men's cultural change comparable to women's liberation. When men complain that "having to be the pursuer is hard" or that "the right blend of masculine-confidence is difficult to achieve," they're essentially asking the following from w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 08:15 PM
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Kinsey said it was 50 percent versus 26 percent, but that was back then. What's more interesting is that the Men who cheat do so with a larger number of sex partners. Women are choosier, typically having just one affair. The theory is that Men crave variety, and women are more motivated by trading up. Is this true? Maybe. But it gets to the original point, there are differences.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 02:13 AM
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App will mostly favor physical appearance, while social intelligence, humor and charisma have a chance to stand out in person. This doesn't contradict OP's argument. The same attractive traits existed way before the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 11:51 PM
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While it's an interesting poll, the gender gap is pretty small compared to political. Trump voters, male and female, tend to value getting married and having children at a younger age. My strong suspicion is that if we had more data it would also show a strong regional correlation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 05:41 PM
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In every single human society ever studied there have been more men who are mateless for life than women. In polygynous cultures it can be so extreme that just a few select men will be married to dozens of women, while the rest of the men remain bachelors. This dynamic has shaped male behavior in terms of competition and risk taking and other traits associated with testosterone.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 12:42 AM
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When I overhear girls talk, it's never really about whether their dates paid, but it's very common to hear anything indicating lack of money
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 01:43 AM
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Ever been to a strip club? Just look at the guests. It's fascinating. Some guys find it to be just about the most exciting thing in the world, while with others you tell by looking into their eyes that all of the lap dances in the world won't satisfy the yearning and fill the emptiness inside. In fact, for some people I am sure a typical night at a good strip club offers something they could never get from their everyday monogamous sexual relationship. From a basic biological point of view, it c…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 01:10 AM
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You don't really get a reward simply for being married, per se. Marriage can offer both tax advantages or disadvantages depending on circumstances and income. Quite often it's neutral. Also, a lot of the potential benefits are tied to behaviors we want to incentivize, such as retirement investments or real estate capital gains.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 04:39 PM
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Feudalism was declining alongside war, revolts, and social upheaval. And the gold standard was dropped in the same general time period of the Great Depression and two world wars.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 04:32 PM
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Yes, desire is different than attraction and satisfaction, and the study also doesn't account for life circumstances. It's pretty limited, yet still interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 08:33 PM
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Great post, but it's a mistake to think this is the permanent path. It has less to do with social progress and more to do with cycles relating the strength of institutions. Sometimes they are going to be strong, but in other times they unravel (now). Those "everyone gets a wife" years were largely concentrated from 1946 to 1964. It had begun unraveling by the 1980s. Before this time, the people who came of age during the 1920s also resisted marriage and embraced single life. You could also look …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 12:55 AM
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I would also say the reverse - the men who appear interested in their woman (their act), but are totally disconnected in conversations with other men (their more authentic true nature).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 01:17 AM
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Yep, good catch. Should be WWII.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 08:47 PM
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There's another related argument outlined in Neil Howe's The Fourth Turning. The idea is that these shifts aren't random. They follow historical patterns of generational cycles, and the discomfort we currently have is what will catalyze social transformation. The last societal unravelling happened during the 1920s, and it was very similar to today. What happened next? We had Depression and war, but then emerged post WWI with strong institutions, collective purpose, and social conformity.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:03 PM
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Of course the subscribers know they're in a commercial relationship. Of course they know other men are paying for the same content. There's no deception there. And I don't think it's all bad for everyone - only that it can blur lines in ways that make some people uncomfortable. Have you ever been to a strip club? Because strippers absolutely engage in performative connection too - it's a core part of what the industry sells. In fact, the parallel is almost perfect. It's entirely possible for the…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 08:50 PM
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You're right! Porn does monitize loneliness. So do books. Professional wrestling. Lots of things. The issue with OF is the transactionalizing of intimacy and the selling of what feels like an authentic and direct relationship. The problem isn't the content - it's the explicit packaging of human connection as a product. Meanwhile, porn is purely fiction. It's removed, with no illusion of connection. Here's an analogy: I'll gladly go to a restaurant and pay for a meal. I am not going to pay for fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 08:14 PM
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OF sells the illusion of a personal connection. I wouldn't call it predatory, but it certainly is designed to monetize loneliness, and this makes people uncomfortable. It's one of the more obvious examples of the various platforms which now exist just to extract value from our basic needs of attention and connection. Porn is different because it is consumed as a commodity. The transactional relationship is more traditional and defined - it's basically a professional selling a fantasy. They aren'…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 07:29 PM
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We all should know this intuitively from our own experience, but allow me to translate - Guys, think back to when you were 7 years old. You might have played sports, might have been into video games, or perhaps comics...and you probably were more interested hanging out with other boys than with girls doing girly stuff. Now fast forward 10 years, and girls are much, much more interesting, to the extent that you might even prefer the opportunity to have sex with girls over activities like fishing …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 04:39 PM
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It's about individual vs societal responsibility. The 5% male is absolutely correct to enjoy the benefits as much as possible, but society may be correct to place restraints. Peterson does love to speak on power structures and black and white narratives with utter certainty, which doesn't resonate with everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 03:13 PM
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You're describing a "market clearing" hypothesis - the idea that if we separate the markets for sex and companionship more cleanly, we'd get better matching in both. I'm very skeptical of any top-down solution to what is fundamentally a crisis of connection. Treating people as rational actors with fixed preferences rarely works in the real world. First, the idea that "men want sex, women want relationships" is vastly oversimplified, and second, the problem of people claiming to want one thing wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 04:57 PM
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I am talking in a broader sense than spending money on dates. That is commerce. I am referring to how we conceptualize relationships. You are actually supporting my point - your coffee date is being used as a low investment screening tool which minimizes sunk costs and maximizes optionality. You are further supporting my point in stating that authentic attraction doesn't depend on money. Exactly! The value of relationships exists outside the financialized framework.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 09:02 PM
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That's funny because I was agreeing with your comment--terms like "investing youth," women "supporting a man to become the best guy he can be," men "trading in" wives relates to the world of transactions. Just to be clear--I am not talking about economics. You are correct that we no longer have anything like dowries, etc. And probably the idea of "marriage for love" very rarely defined marriage throughout much of history. What is different today is that we no longer have the institutional and co…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 05:35 PM
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We talk about relationships now as assets, investments and return. It's also interesting how there's a perceived social "contract." Relationships, like everything else in modern society, have become financialized.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 04:43 PM
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In my personal experience, families with two working parents are usually incredibly stressed, and it often affects the marriage and children. I only know a few families who can financially support a stay at home parent, and these families seem to be the happiest and healthiest I know. That said, I think this might have been very different 30 years ago when things were easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 05:43 PM
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People who love movies - "film lovers” - see film as something more meaningful than most others. While the average casual viewer may have seen thousands of movies in their lifetime, the film lover is more likely to be selective, looking for quality over quantity. I know people who watch movies every day, but are drawn to shallow and superficial films as a form of mindless entertainment, and are happy to text and talk throughout. No judgement whatsoever against the casual movie consumer here (aka…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 10:46 PM
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It's generally doable but not easy to be attractive. Being edfortlessly attractive is exceedingly rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 07:48 AM
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You could also just play the numbers game and go on a lot of dates. Assuming a certain percentage of the girls who agree have at least some level of attraction, you might also choose to spend some money on the dates. Or you can complicate things by endlessly overthinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 06:27 AM
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shallow preferences lead to decline in long-term monogamy. Compatibility is an important factor, yet at the same time also overrated. Given enough time the initial attraction always inevitably fades. You reach a point where that other person stops being perfect, and tension/conflict begin to appear. I'd argue that very often the ability to remember those "shallow preferences" and that feeling of falling in love is what determines a successful long-term relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 02:37 AM
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Imagine dating 25 years ago. Pretty much all of the people in your dating circle would have been extremely unlikely to have syphilis. Meaning, if you were meeting people at school, work, the bars you frequent, etc., your risk was likely low. The MedHelp doctors all agreed. The disease was very rare in the US and isolated to specific communities which you can Google yourself if you're curious. I don't want to spell it out here, especially in election season. Online dating introduced meeting and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 02:57 AM
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STDs hit all-time lows in 2009. Since then they have surged while at the same time sexual activity has declined. So there are reasons other than casual sex. Online dating is likely correlated, but for other reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 07:59 PM
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I think there's some bidirectional causality. Temporary sexual frustration seems... well, normal. But when it persists, chronic frustration can lead to malaise, societal disconnect, feeling unloveable, etc. (depression). But depression can also directly affect one's romantic pursuits. So I think you are right - it is important to distinguish between the two, while also recognizing the crossover.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 09:33 PM
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it's better to be an honest asshole than a tryhard nice guy simp. I guess so when framed that way, but are all honest people assholes? Is that the only choice? I really think there's been a misunderstanding about this whole "nice guy" debate. Being nice in a performative way to attract women is Disingenuous. But so is putting on this false cocky bravado thinking that's what women want. Those who possess an authentic kindness - not as a tactic, but as an authentic element of their character - ten…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 08:41 PM
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I think women are more likely to have friends at all. The fwb could also be a factor, but it's secondary and just one component to the overall love and connection a person has in their life. Even for the men with lots of access, by middle age most of them won't have a strong social circle without a partner. Women, on the other hand, are generally far better at nurturing social bonds.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 07:54 PM
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I disagree. If a two hour movie were to simply show a charming man catering to the woman's every desire, it would literally be the most boring story ever created in the history of movies. Good fictional romance is 90% about tension. It's about the obstacle, and the tension of longing for what you can't have. Maybe they are in love, but he's not available (maybe he's being deployed for war soon, or dating a supermodel, or he's royalty, or he's busy raising kids as a single dad). Perhaps he's a ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 04:45 PM
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Your narrative is that it's nothing more than a simplistic binary gender stereotype. And maybe more? I suppose maybe you think these ideas are so outdated? Maybe you think I'm must red pill/maga? Perhaps a little misogynistic? Thing is, anything can be relevant if it's useful. I do fully understand why you write this off. Most people these days have become master auto-tuners, which is sad. Otherwise, it's fine if this pov is not for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 04:49 AM
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True leaders want authentic respect. Not just for people to blindly follow, but instead for them to trust their direction. This needs to be earned, and a lot of times these days women might actually be the better leaders, so that's becoming a tricky dynamic
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 04:13 AM
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I already said it's not about gender and it's up to everyone to navigate what works. I'm just sharing my own life experience. I am not even arguing a point, but have a lot of close adult female best friends who talk to me about the same issues. Go ahead and auto-tune me however you want to fit your narrative, but your worldview seems much more rigid than what I am talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 04:04 AM
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People should do whatever makes them happy. I know plenty of women who play the masculine role very well daily at work and at night want their man to be a man. I literally don't care at all, not even a little bit, how people choose to navigate this. But all of the happiest couples I know willingly adapt to and enjoy taking on their masculine/feminine roles, however they choose to define them. Edit: also know women who are frustrated that their husband doesn't act enough like a man. Most times it…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 03:47 AM
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Submission does not mean the woman has no voice and can never argue. It doesn’t mean reverting to the 1950s. It’s allowing the man to lead. That’s it. This might simply mean allowing the man to be the driver when you are going somewhere. Maybe it means allowing him to be the one in charge of planning a date night out. Or maybe he oversees managing the family budget. When a woman is just as capable of doing this, and knows it, and still allows the man to lead – that’s the 2024 version of submissi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 08:13 PM
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The optimistic view is that the decline you describe will ultimately force men to improve and drive women towards certain conservative values. This would result in a new balance which might borrow some old ideas, while also moving society forward. The pessimistic view is probably a rise in extremists who would target the vulnerable (women, children, minorities, etc.) which is too dark to contemplate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 09:41 PM
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Interesting. It gets pretty complicated quickly. I do think widespread promiscuity drives down both the price and the value of sex. This probably does drive up the value of chaste women when it comes to marriage, but for many men that value may not justify the increase in price when the competition offers sex on the first date. Promiscuous women are also probably driving down their own value when it comes to marriage. It only feels like it is going up relative to men, who have declined even more…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 11:18 PM
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Agree with all of this. No single article can address all of the nuances, but there could be an economic argument behind the slut shaming. In real estate and most of society, we have a system designed to benefit the owners. Once you own an asset, you are incentivized to see its value grow, even if it comes at others' expense. Slut shaming arguably drives up both the price AND the value of sex, which might strengthen existing relationships while punishing those who are not in relationships. Back …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 07:00 PM
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they are willing to lower the price to the floor for one man, but not another. I don't know - I can visit certain countries and live in luxury at the best hotels and restaurants. It's not that they lower the price for me. The value of USD dollars just goes a lot further.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 06:19 PM
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I am neither a biologist nor an economist but will still respond. I personally don't see how biology and economics are in competition with each other at all. At its most basic level economics looks at how unlimited desire interacts with limited resources. Biology studies these concepts too. Example: Desire – a biologist would probably link desire to dopamine and would be able to describe why it exists. Economists don’t explore why, and instead just start with the assumption that there is a biolo…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 05:37 PM
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Think of sex as a commodity and relationships as an asset. The article describes women as being like property owners - if you are a renter, you want prices to come down and supply to go up. Property owners want the opposite. This changes once you are in a relationship. The value of sex can still be leveraged in all sorts of ways, but the couple have also entered into a partnership as co-owners of a new asset, and it's natural they will want to maximize their return on investment.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 04:55 PM
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Money is arguably not the most valuable thing in life, time is. Agreed, but relationships massively \ increase the value of both time and money.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:37 PM
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Oh yeah, the two of us can relate. Joy Division was ingrained in me, but I've been conflicted imposing them too much on my own kids (yet they've definitely been exposed).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:53 AM
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Good parents! Did you listen to them? I actually had a record player as a kid. Mostly played pretend scratch DJ, but also was my intro to Sgt. Peppers, The Band's brown album, and even Steve Martin standup.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:11 AM
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In many ways I don't disagree. In fact, in many ways, this is exactly what I am saying. Where we differ is about the concept of desire. It can occur often and regularly as spontaneous impulses - similar to how every now and then I crave a frozen pizza (why?), but the next night would be repulsed by the idea. Real desire, sustainable desire, requires people to fan the flame a bit. It's not as easy as just being casual and spontaneous. There needs to be a little bit of an element of wanting someth…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 03:51 AM
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You are a man, so am I. That's something! We have that in common. So imagine the immediate excitement of a beautiful woman saying to you "take me!" This woman is so attractive, and she wants you completely. Whatever you want, you got it. But it is too easy. She wants you too much. She's too needy, perhaps even bordering on desperate. Following me? I promise you this - at some point, and it won't take too long, things will change with her. This beautiful, vibrant, young woman will not be as excit…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 03:23 AM
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Same, but the point is everyone should know them. I'm not talking about obscure artists. I am saying anyone who is interested in music should be familiar with the classics, like John Coltrane, Paul Simon, Joni, Bowie, Prince, Beck, A Tribe Called Quest, etc. They should also know Pet Sounds, maybe the Stop Making Sense movie and the Get Back rooftop performance. I flat out don't trust anyone who hasn't invested at least a little time exploring Dylan. And also, I would like to see that they remai…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 12:33 AM
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See - now I want to be friends. Didn't know them, and thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 12:19 AM
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It would be a red flag for me to meet any adult who isn't familiar with most of the artists you mention. For instance, if someone wasn't familiar with Kendrick Lamar, it's understandable, maybe they've just fallen behind in contemporary music trends. Fine. If they also don't know Devo? Still no big deal. But if they don't know Kendrick, Devo and The Clash...? At that point I would begin to wonder if they had zero curiosity in both great music as well as other culture. I'd probably be afraid to a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 11:54 PM
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The prize is about much more than just other people's opinions. It feels good to be the prize, and also to be the person who wins the prize. We all want to feel desired, right? Well, the prize is the object that is most desirable. It's what's hard to get. It feels slightly out of reach. That's why it's valuable. If it was easy and convenient, people wouldn't want it. A healthy relationship balances the ability for one to become the prize, while also pursuing the prize of the partner (without bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 09:04 PM
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This will be controversial - I think there can be value in visiting strip clubs as an opportunity to practice becoming comfortable bantering with beautiful naked women in a non "gay bestie" way. But it also comes with a lot of potential drawbacks, so probably not something I'd recommend to most people (and I personally haven't visited one in years).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 10:04 PM
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The way she moves. It's when a certain energy flows through her every movement, from her smile, to her walk, the way her hair swings, without ever feeling blocked up or restricted. Consider it like how water in nature feels (vs a plastic water bottle sitting in your car for a few days). When water is open and free flowing - like the ocean, a river's swimminghole, or a pristine lake - it feels overwhelming alive, sensual and receptive, almost irresistibly enticing you to jump in.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 08:44 PM
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Social skills can be the most important trait. I am thinking of one guy I know, who has very little going for him with looks - age, weight, height doesn't work in his favor - but he's so charismatic and people instantly fall in love with him. Like, pretty much everyone he meets. In real world settings, his social skills take him further than the most attractive men I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 12:29 AM
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Today's youth who consume social media judge their peers exactly as the older people watching Fox News used to judge us back in the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 02:20 AM
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Man Halloween in IV used to be quite something. A whole other level back in the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 06:54 PM
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People should probably bring both masculine/feminine sides to every situation, at varying degrees. I think the issue is that women tend to be better at this than men, and a lot of men are not comfortable navigating this dynamic. I'm going to generalize here - In a romantic setting, it's probably best for men to express their full masculinity and women to be their most feminine. In a business setting, women might dress more formally and act a little more assertive, but not too much - they will be…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 09:22 PM
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There's a certain intimacy that comes with deep opposite sex friendships. You either appreciate this and commit to keeping it platonic, or suffer. The closer the friendship the more I tend to value it for what it is, but I can see how this can be hard for people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 04:52 AM
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It's not just fishing accidents, its also violence and the men at the top hoarding women. Just look at slavery in America, and how many babies were born from Plantation owners. History doesn't paint a pretty picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 04:37 AM
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I am not an anthropologist! I am going off what the research says. They look at so many factors, ranging form the genetics mentioned by OP, to physiological traits, to what happens with animals, to existing records of various cultures. We can both speculate on why this might be the case. This could include the fact that eggs are significantly more valuable than sperm, and a single male with the very best genetics could have a lot of babies. Or the fact that for much of history only the elite had…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 04:13 AM
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You're right, it's widely the norm today, but that's modern, and far from universal. It makes sense that our adaptability allows a spectrum of options. We likely are evolutionary wired more towards polygamy, which benefits survival of the fittest, however culture has since leaned that monogamous marriage is actually far batter for society.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 03:08 AM
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The default for most of human history was for high-status men to have multiple wives, while others have no wives. There was also plenty of rape, as well as castration and killing other men. I think it is probably a function of modern economics and a culture of monogamy that allows 75% of men today to have that opportunity to reproduce. This may change as the middle class and the institution of marriage declines.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 07:30 PM
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Reminds me of Bill Murray's "giving back" campaign from Kingpin working closely with single moms. What a heart of gold! https://youtu.be/SwX6ER5jqp0?si=I2ntqL8RGdNyB4X5
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 05:39 AM
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In my 20s it seemed like there were so many options. Married now. I believe that if standards are getting lower as they get older, so too have the numbers of women available My guess is it all probably cancels out. As a guy, if you're not continuously getting better, you're falling behind.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 04:46 AM
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But we are also hunters. This is why we so love watching the struggle to move the ball those last couple of yards.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 04:35 AM
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What does a beautiful sunset bring to the table? It's not really useful for anything like making money or solving day-to-day problems, but it certainly makes life a lot more enjoyable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 01:28 AM
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It seems like many people view interactions, particularly between men and women, as purely transactional, but it’s actually essential to engage in the sexual dynamic behind much of everyday life to find fulfillment. Most situations won't be the least bit romantic, but may still offer the opportunity for us all to share our masculine/feminine natures with each other. Go ahead and be charming to the old lady you meet in the parking lot, and help her load groceries into her car. It'll make you feel…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 04:08 PM
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Did the "women's first" actually approach fail, or this more of a problem with the business model? I honestly don't know. Being a public company, they need growth, and the majority of their users and revenue come from men. It's hard to make any conclusion about women's preference. Women might love making the first move for all we know, but if men aren't finding success the app isn't going to be profitable. Maybe this is the actual definition of what makes a good dating app - something which men …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 03:24 AM
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I have no idea what is coming. I really don't think civil war is likely. However, one way or another, society will be rewritten over the next 20 years or so. In the past this has always meant war. Maybe now it's AI. I'm optimistic. If you're under a certain age which the vast majority here are, you can't point to any recent history. Long term I think the line is up and to the right, but we're entering now into a rocky trans period and are about to see a lot of things change over the next decade …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 04:51 AM
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Let's call it political violence instead. Both political parties in the US think it'll be the end of the nation if the other side wins. This could be bottom-up violence, a strong man who takes authoritarian leadership, war with another country, or an "emergency." There are many challenges out there which could lead to confrontation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 11:32 PM
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I personally don't think it's likely, but over half of the population expects it, so I thought it fair to bring up. No matter who wins the election, there will be turmoil. I think there is a lot of anxiety about a variety of things coming late-2024 through early-2025, even if people are not exactly sure what that means. That said, we arguably are already in a cultural civil war. We have wars on everything - the war on terror, drugs, Christmas, soda. Our institutions are failing and division is w…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 11:13 PM
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If you were old enough to remember 9/11, it happened shortly after an election which a lot of people thought was stolen, but everyone united together behind GW. This also happened in the early phase of Covid. Remember that? You also saw a lot of people moving back to WFH with their families. So what would happen to us, whether its WWIII or a Civil War or something else, is likely a return to valuing institutions (which would be reinvented), creating order (also reinvented), and a more conservati…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 04:26 PM
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They actually answered the question pretty well. It's all a numbers game. There is an abundance of single men in their early-20s who don't have their shit together. Once they reach their late-20s/early-30s they begin dating and marrying younger women. If a man reaches his 40s and is still single, the numbers begin to work in his favor because by then so many of the other men have been taken. It's not that this average 40 year old is going to marry a 26 year old, but he might be an attractive opt…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 06:36 PM
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It would likely be way worse. Today's 6/10 women can stand out by offering low-cost/high-reward easy sex with minimal investment. If the 8s,9s,10s started doing the same, that value proposition would disappear. At least today's men have a shot of standing out based on personality, commitment, money, etc., but I don't know that the same would work for women if the roles were reversed.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 07:23 PM
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I've seen Jay around over the years. Living in LA, this is not uncommon. It's not at all noteworthy. But years ago he did catch my eye driving a new McLaren. That was noteworthy! You really did offer great analysis on this with this analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/24 02:07 AM
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These conversations don't generally play well on Reddit, but I appreciate the nuance of this comment. The temptation is often to autotune opinions to one side or the other, and interpret statistics as B&W without thinking through the deeper meaning. I get what you're saying and fully agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 09:09 PM
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It's tempting to lust after the fancier body of the Ferrari, but there's something to be said about saving time and money in maintenance. I know a very wealthy person who does exactly that - he can afford anything he wants, but has driven a Civic for years. When it eventually dies he'll replace it with another, and he's very happy. Meanwhile in my middle class neighborhood there are people with Bentleys in their driveway, but you can tell it's mostly for the status. There's room out there for in…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 09:06 PM
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Brilliant. Two thoughts: First, how about a used Honda Accord with 50K miles? Now that's a high value buy! It's reliable, impeccably manufactured, good mileage, and even with 50K miles, it's going to last a long time if you treat it right. But if that Accord had 150K miles? Still could be a great buy. It could easily have another 200K miles left in it. But there's some red flags. A lot depends on it's history. Second, you have to think about commitment. If I am renting a car on a trip, just give…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 03:20 AM
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If we are going to talk about men and women in economic terms, you have to look at the cost. It's possible for a "low value woman" to still offer an extremely high QPR.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 02:48 AM
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Very interesting links! I'll note that the results of the Pew study on "not wanting kids" is very much an outlier compared to the other studies. This recent study showed cost as the number one factor, and finding a partner as number two. It will be interesting to see what happens to the trends post-Covid. https://pro.morningconsult.com/trend-setters/millennials-economy-children-poll I also agree that surveying young people isn't especially useful.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 12:36 AM
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Pew Research had a 2021 study looking at the percent of childless people under 50 who expected to never have a child. The number increased from 38% in 2018 to 44% in 2021 - that's a dramatic change in just three years. Meanwhile, fertility rates are now at the all-time low, despite the fact that ideal number of desired children has remained consistent and has perhaps even increased. The data in the following article says that 25 percent of young women today will likely be childless, while less t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 06:27 PM
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This video is so hard to watch. Can't relate. Now as a man, what do I know what goes on in the bedroom. Women here? Tell us! I am curious if this is real. OP, I can see your point about how modern day etiquette could make some people uncomfortable. But...But I also think there is something primal about sex which is encoded into our DNA. A lot of people have their hangups which might stand in the way, but I don't think this is the primary one contributing to sexless marriages - but...no way to kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 06:26 AM
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Oh I totally agree. I think many institutions will fall apart sooner rather than later, quite dramatically. But it's not a linear progression. The institutions will get rebuilt into something new and hopefully better. But here's the thing - they are going to get rebuilt by people who are alive today. Whatever happens to the institution of marriage will be informed and shaped by the challenges facing today's younger generations. Within the next several decades I think we will probably actually re…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 05:41 PM
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I've thought about this post a few times because everything about it is so sweet. Thanks for sharing, especially on this sub, which is not an especially healthy place to spend time. I am happy he's working out for you, and also that you care about him similarly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 03:13 AM
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Both men and women have decided that it is better being alone than being with a substandard partner. I agree with this. But the part you left out is that men and women also want to get married (at least the young ones). Finding a suitable partner is the challenging part.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 07:32 PM
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The "bar" acts almost as a resume. In times of higher unemployment (unlike today) employers are inundated with resumes, and an applicant might be pitching their middle-tier degree against Harvard MBAs. How many people of experienced this? In these times, good luck emailing your resume cold. You have to get creative by asking friends to make introductions, showing up at networking events, taking internships, etc. to get that first date interview. Once you actually get the job, the bar matters far…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 02:55 PM
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When the remaining 40+ guys get married, I think it simultaneously removes both the men from their age group and also younger women in their 30s from the pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 09:26 PM
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Because most women throughout all of history want sex, but it's only the women with babies who actually need to commit to and rely on any given man. This seems obvious. Am I wrong, or is this just too taboo to say out loud?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 06:14 AM
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Women have always been more valuable sexually. Cringy wording, I know, but just compare the costs of IVF sperm vs egg donors. However, masculinity has still always been valuable to both women and society. Men have moved well beyond simply providing protection and food, and continue to disproportionally impact the worlds of business, politics, culture, etc. (To clarify - I should say "masculinity" rather than men - women today often have highly developed masculine traits too.) I think AI will pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 05:43 PM
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Damn Clara, this conversation about men's issues today and women's "wall" is all depressing as hell, right? Cheers to any and all who can find whatever positivity they can with aging.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 07:41 AM
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I'll reframe it - the vast majority of women have less options as they get older, but a significant minority of men see their options increase. I think you also have to distinguish between casual dating and a relationship. The average woman will always find it easier to get sex, but the odds begin to tip in men's favor with age.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 07:11 AM
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Well, let's be honest here - it would also be concerning if you think a 40+ year old man without CC debt and medical issues is an anomaly. I actually truly don't think this woman is an anomaly at all, and I also think it's totally possible and even probable that middle-aged women are more likely to have their act together than the the average middle-aged man. But that's a whole separate societal issue. It's an important topic for discussion, but right now we're talking about the world of hypothe…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 06:57 AM
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Wh-what? Of course this hypothetical 40-year-old very impressive sounding woman has value. No one would argue that. However, age is a factor, and she probably was a little bit more magically captivating to men when she was younger (which sucks - sorry). If you were to contrast her to a somewhat impressive male of the same age, he is comparatively more likely to have upped his standards a bit. I see this all of the time - the decent looking guy who only did okay with women in the past starts look…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 05:51 AM
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Isn't the opposite much more common? With most relationships there is a strong attraction at the beginning, and then inevitably one day you wake up wondering where that feeling went. And this is when that initial honeymoon phase becomes especially important. All of the things that now irritate you are the same things you were once so attracted to in the beginning. The key is recognizing them and being able to remember them - because most of the time that attraction is very much still there, aliv…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 05:22 AM
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I actually find that friendship naturally neutralize most of the sexual desire to the point where there's only a subtle male/female dynamic that enhances intimacy. There's also no need to pretend - I think it's known that if they started walking around me in the nude it would have my full attention - but 99% of the time this truly is a non-issue with my female friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 04:35 AM
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People have to work very hard to proactively train themselves on media literacy, and even then, it’s almost impossible to not occasionally fall for the traps. I see at least two big problems behind a lot of “business models” out there (the business models could include everything from advertisers, to selling products, to simply growing an audience on social media). The first is just getting people’s attention. We live in a very content dense world, and we’ve also all become dopamine junkies. You…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 04:33 PM
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I think this was a really beautiful comment. The "deliberately inflammatory" part might have rubbed some people the wrong way, but anyone reading shouldn't question the sincerity.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 04:09 AM
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I think it's totally true and perfectly stated. I also never thought of it quite this way before. I do agree with OP that it's a good idea to try getting out into the real world and finding people who share your passions. Being non-boring will beat spending time on the internet every time. Yet, I also knew there was something missing with OP's idea. It falls short as a stand-alone tactic for the reason you state - a lot of guys are just so inexperienced with women. Not just inexperienced in love…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 03:58 AM
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In all aspects of life it's good to embody the idea that "I've got something of value that people want." If you don't have that, do what ya gotta do to make it happen. Or not? It's everyone's own individual choice
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 06:06 AM
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It's not that people logically care. No! Being a small business owner trying to compete is actually the exact same mentality. If you own a business which is desperate for customers, pretty damn soon you'll find yourself in a bad situation. Test this - try walking into an empty restaurant. Notice how nice they are? They don't know anything about you, but are so grateful. Just last week I went to an empty restaurant for breakfast and my server, a nice 18 yo girl, invited herself to sit at my table…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 03:23 AM
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It's exactly the same as running a business. Unless you're Amazon, there's always infinite other appealing options, and the scarcity mindset can snowball into a lot of bad decisions. While few will ever be at the top of the pyramid, most can move themselves at least one notch up from the bottom.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 03:05 AM
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Seriously guys, listen - do what you gotta do to get to the place where you truly know you have the freedom to run for the hills early when you recognize the red flags. Yellow flags are a little different. But we all know the red flags when we see them. This means having at least some options. If you ever find yourself in a situation where you've got the girl but lack the confidence you can find another girl you are 100% fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 02:22 AM
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^^She is right. I do really like the idea of this sub, but cannot side with my fellow men on this one. This entire thread makes me want to unsubscribe from this sub because it's so off and detached from reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 05:20 AM
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Yeah, I guess there is an assumption that men have no choice, and therefore are not responsible for when they choose wrong? You have a point, even if it is a pretty big generalization. We've all seen it. The men who stay for the sex, and the women for love. Addressing OP - there is a tendency I've noticed when women really fall in real love to get carried away with the emotions to the point where they are completely unaware of the issues, even when it's as clear as day to everyone else. I have n…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:40 AM
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These are good points. Men should always prioritize self development. If they end up being a late bloomer romantically, I see nothing wrong with focusing first on career, health, social network, etc. and then practicing relationship skills with someone younger with less experience and different life expectations. Assuming a guy has put in the work to get his act together in life, he should be able to catch up.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 06:28 PM
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In general, we chase what moves away from us.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 02:31 AM
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I have seen many beautiful and impressive women chase certain men when they want a serious relationship. It sometimes works, but also often seems to work against them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 02:31 AM
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Imagine you own a restaurant. Which of the following approaches would be more likely to create a physiological response that makes consumers hot and heavy and literally crave what you have to offer? Example one - a restaurant with delicious food which is approachable, unpretentious and aims to please everyone. As a restaurant for the people, it offers generous promos - a 50% off Groupon, perhaps a daily happy hour special. Example two - an exclusive restaurant where people need to pre-purchase t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 10:44 PM
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I feel that by the time the man gets a relationship he’s changed by that and more than likely a little less empathetic as he had to push his own feelings aside and keep going. This isn't about rejection; it is the masculine nature. The entire point is learning and improving through struggle. They key is to reframe and embrace the challenge as an opportunity. Sure, the most attractive men don't face the same rejection, but that only makes it MORE difficult for them develop the patience required t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 10:05 PM
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It's not always so black and white. Take social media. Last week's reports on Meta are disgusting, and they were just the latest an a series over the past few years. While these are definitely "anti-social media attitudes," at the same time, I still personally enjoy Instagram. Probably most people enjoy social media. We can all recognize the positive attributes while at the same time acknowledging the negative impacts without contradicting ourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 07:03 PM
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Men don't want to watch porn, they do it because they have to. They have sexual needs and they can't access sex easily. Women don't seem to understand that sexual relief is like food to a man. He needs it every day (usually). Porn is just a means to an end. This is a good example. When I'm hungry, I'll sometimes pull into a Popeyes drive-through. It's delicious! However, I also never emerge from the experience feeling better. If someone were to propose the idea of making Popeyes a regular staple…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:41 PM
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I fully agree with the OP. Being kind is 100% compatible with being masculine. I feel like I am taking crazy pills reading many of these comments. To address this specific thread, I would actually suggest that in the real world, a person's overall success in life, career, romance, etc. really is not about having the highest GPA in high school. Sure, grades are important if you can leverage them to get into an elite university, but the overwhelming value of that degree is more related to status a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 03:44 PM
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I can't know a relationship history, but can certainly sense a feeling which seems to often correlate. However, I'm also not wanting to go down this path any further. I have no judgement whatsoever and may have already said too much. I'm not too hung up on any of this, and honestly find this entire thread to not be worth anyone's time Edit' to add this: it feels like I am contributing to the negativity. And for what purpose? IRL if we were friends it could possibly be an interesting conversation…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 07:54 AM
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Disagree. Women are still feminine when they age. Sexual experience isn't something you can sense. Apologies to all, men and women alike. I get it, and no offense intended. You are misunderstanding what I was trying to poorly articulate - this is all about youthful feminine energy - and there's a correlation, and you can somewhat sense it. Lots of feminine women out there who are very sexually experienced.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:48 AM
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Well we for sure all need to grow up and get over it. You don't need to be tall to be masculine, nor do you need to be a virgin to be feminine. At all. That said, and I am not sure I believe 100% of what I am typing, but thoughts: Being rich/tall/smart is generally considered masculine for a man. Just observe nature. Disagree? Fine. This is the easy half of the question. As for the feminine connection to being a virgin? I think youthfulness is widely considered an especially feminine trait, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:47 AM
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It's a good point. I see a lot of these "successful" guys get turned down a lot but they aren't afraid to play the numbers game.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:06 PM
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I understand and recognize this as a valid individual decision. However, I also think playing “this game” is very similar to playing the entire game of life. Because once you find a job that pays enough to survive, why bother doing anything more? A lot of it is just a burden. Why invest in things like furthering your career, taking care of your health, dressing nice, home improvement, developing personal skills, etc? Is it worth the hassle? Women happen to be a primary motivating factor for a lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 06:58 PM
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No way. The fact that so many young men these days lack intimate feminine companionship is probably one of the reasons women complain about low quality men. This is about far more than satisfying sexual urges. In fact this is probably the single most important motivating factor that allows men to reach their potential vs just being lazy slobs. It's definitely a chicken/egg dynamic, but important to not give up on.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 04:39 PM
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I'll agree that there's way more to looks, but also think 95% of most people's thoughts are overrated most of the time (including my own). To your point though, there's a great Beatles lyric which hopefully we all know: "Something in the way she moves attracts me like no other lover." Yeah, there's a lot to that. "The way she moves" is a huge deal. And also the way she breathes, and the tone/cadence of her voice. Beyond traditional beauty, these are incredibly individualistic elements which you …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 05:46 AM
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Why is it not being discussed here how common it is for women to choose to sleep with their platonic male friends? It seems to me that the only difference is that women tend to be more selective than men in friendzoning, but they're not above developing feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 06:29 PM
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It's totally possible and natural to enjoy friendships with a certain underlying male/female attraction without feeling trapped. There's no "friend zone," only "friendship." With my close female friends, every now and then I might momentarily think "oh wow, she looks so pretty tonight." I'd hardly describe this as "romantic feelings" when 99% of the time my attention is not on her looks. Sure, the capacity for romantic feelings to develop is possible, but I have no issue with allowing space for …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 06:08 PM
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Speaking as a 40 year old married guy, I don't think I'd experience these same anxieties if I were on the dating market today. I am not saying dating is easy, and I can see it's much harder these days. But even if dating is hard, know what is easy? Forming genuine connections with people. You don't have to always "approach." You don't have to treat every interaction as transactional. Instead, just meet people. Smile, say hi, be a little charming. They will either reciprocate or they won't. There…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 06:54 PM
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I agree with OP here - people confuse attraction with love. Children/pets are indeed different because all that is required for anyone to love them is simply allowing the heart to open (which some people still struggle with). They don't need to do anything to earn it other than being who they are. The gift of attraction is that it opens the door to the heart and allows us to temporarily bypass our adult fears, desires, ego, but there's usually a narrow window before the heart begins to close aga…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 06:16 PM
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