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Personally I wouldn't but I feel like for some people there's a limit in who will match your lifestyle and even if you find them there's no reason to think they can't change so that's just life and relationships tbh. Majority of people are going to be into drinking, most women wanna party, will overtime meet other groups and maybe you'll be the one who changes into a drinking and partying person to your wife's disappointment. Can really go a dozen ways but point is its not so easy to find folks …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 07:26 PM
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Honestly, I've never been in a women's restroom and was always gold the opposite, but I really wouldn't doubt young boys are sold a false image of women
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 12:13 AM
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The men who benefit from it benefit more than women, obviously. And I could see how women don't benefit from it even if they would've thought they would when this stuff first started up. However... if most young men want more and can't get it while women don't but are free to casually dip in and hookup with the occasional guy who meets her standards then that seems like more of a win for women to me...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 06:31 PM
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Honestly, the all men thing bothers me. Like I can understand how it might be upsetting to hear "not all men" as a response to what you make intended as a valid criticism because someone saying something negative about one men or a group of men shouldn't be taken as generalizing 4 billion men. Although then it's like in the feminism places you'll see people going #yesallmen so I guess they changed their mind on that. Where as previously it was more of a "yes, we realize it's not all and you don'…
/r/MensRights30/12/23 03:55 PM
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I can't really speak on vaccines and periods Although I think since you mention seatbelts and short men then while I do see that as a problem I feel like what bothers me is that it's not really a gendered issue aside from women being shorter than men on average. Like to me, it seems like most of the problems of feminism could be solved by actually just solving the problems, but it's not even women stuff. We could generally just do better about child care as a whole. Yes, women do have more expec…
/r/MensRights30/12/23 03:06 AM
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Funny enough before seeing this post I had just gotten recommended a video on YouTube where someone was like here's why therapy doesn't work for men and talking about how most therapists are women and most of their patients are women and women are more okay talking about their feelings so they totally would get more depression while men are more diagnosed by behavior so get called sociopaths
/r/MensRights30/12/23 02:53 AM
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Honestly, I feel like that's how you get called entitled. Having a high self-worth whenever others don't perceive you as having earned it. Like a 6ft guy who is handsome and making at least okay money is more allowed to display confidence than a lesser man even if said man genuinely is content with his place
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 04:41 AM
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Do you not think looks, money, and sex life can impact a woman's value too?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 04:25 AM
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You'd think some of the more dominant women would buy the other lesbians some drinks and validate them
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 03:31 AM
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Yeah... some flirting seems a bit much
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 05:14 AM
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I feel like that almost helps their point. Like, I'm sure virgin women exist more than people who say it's an unrealistic expectation would think, because thinking it isn't realistic comes from people who probably think most women are on the CC from 16 But if said women aren't on apps and don't like being asked out, then how would a man ever meet them? Feel like even if equal women were virgins compared to men, which I'm not so sure is true that, in general, they are less accessible compared to …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 05:10 AM
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Probably not because to some extent that honestly sounds worrying (mainly the fast motorcycle thing)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 03:24 AM
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Men
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 11:01 PM
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Could be a joke, but I feel like whenever it's about Trump or Andrew Tate having small dicks as a negative thing (even if neither person would actually care but do certainly deserve being insulted) that it is pretty serious and honestly is doing more to hurt innocent bystanders than anything else... also think it's just a difference in dynamics because a man making the joke about another man isn't someone who has experienced a penis inside of them most of the time so we don't actually have point…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 04:21 AM
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Works for me. I mean... hard to really say one way or another in a vacuum, but it's not a dealbreaker
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 03:52 AM
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I'd say women. Going from fat to skinny would make you pretty hot in the eyes of men, and usually, that has some effects... Although honestly with men could probably argue about if gym culture is toxic and as a man you'll place more value into your muscles so if you go from former far guy to ideal gym bro all bulked up and shit with a 6 pack I wouldn't be surprised if you could find someone who is pretty much a Toxic stereotype. Just a normal skinny guy, tho who used to be fat, probably isn't a …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 12:14 AM
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Toxic behaviour in people is unfortunately a lot of times rewarded. I was scared seeing this post at first, but I'm glad someone acknowledges it. People can assume not having sex = being a bad person, but someone who isn't a good person would force others into having sex instead or use other means to get it that are immoral, like lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 11:58 PM
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Probably not
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 11:26 PM
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Honestly, I feel like the reality is that you should just find something productive to do with your time. There are reasons people couldn't have pets, might not be close with their family, have trouble making friends otherwise if they could make friends they'd probably have had some sexual relationships too and not be struggling Although the loneliness doesn't t hit as hard if you actually do something that feels more meaningful to you
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 11:21 PM
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Never thought about it like that, but honestly, I kinda agree. I mean... the issue is less lacking a relationship or whatever and is more of just not having much fulfilling going on Otherwise, when I do actually have stuff I enjoy doing then even if it were solitary activities, I don't exactly feel crippling loneliness
/r/MensRights10/12/23 05:21 AM
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I feel like anything about how misandry is harmful will just get rebranded to misogyny by those arguing against it. Such as how it'd be misandrist to assume men suck as parents except actually that's seen as sexist against women because it makes them have to do the traditional mother role stuff which is recognized as bad. A lot of the topic also comes down to ability to act upon it for which people say "well, most people in power are men and men are stronger so women would have a much harder tim…
/r/MensRights10/12/23 05:10 AM
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I have my doubts, but if true, I can only assume the reward is higher, too. Which is like I don't doubt some pettiness exists to where someone being too attractive has its issues, but it's a more limited issue vs. the many issues of being ugly regardless of gender. And being attractive is just usually portrayed as beneficial
/r/MensRights10/12/23 04:59 AM
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I'm going to imagine reality is somewhere in the middle. Don't think the overwhelming majority are fake or anything like that. I would like to believe most are real even if they aren't always able to be proven due to circumstances since sometimes that can happen. However, the whole idea that it's some tiny minority that'll never actually affect most guys is pretty cope. While I don't think it'd be a ton compared to actual rape victims, I think it happens way more often than people would like to …
/r/MensRights10/12/23 04:49 AM
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Don't know how much to believe random internet stuff. However, I saw a post earlier today about some military guy who got raped by a woman, and she was promoted while he was discharged. All this despite admitting to lying about it and reversing the story to say she was the victim to not make her husband upset, but it's all because of not wanting future victims who are women to not feel like they can't come forward. Which is just like if true is pretty severely upsetting how not just is it that t…
/r/MensRights10/12/23 04:41 AM
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Wouldn't be surprised if this is one of the reasons women are more valuable during war times. Helps regrow the population to have more, whereas fewer men can massively reproduce pretty easily.
/r/MensRights05/12/23 04:24 AM
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Tbh, I hate that it has to be that way. Being an actual misogynistic inc3l, I don't think there is anything to be proud of. However, I do feel like we should be allowed to talk about dating struggles different people may face or where other people may be advantaged in dating even if we can't do shit about it.
/r/MensRights05/12/23 04:17 AM
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Idk because while weight does factor into it, there are definitely a few women on the bigger side who I thought were quite pretty. Although does that mean they could look better after losing 20lbs? Maybe, but it could look worse if weight gets too low depending on the person
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 07:27 PM
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Lost me at the title tbh because I genuinely can't comprehend that women have it harder and not "especially in dating" that's for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 11:09 PM
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There's a reason women don't like virgin men 💀 Most are perceived as low status and probably do lack friends or any competition for her because if a guy has options he'd use them
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 11:06 PM
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Some people are really hardcore anti immigration tho despite knowing that this is the case
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 10:59 PM
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Part of me wants to believe it's not impossible, but honestly, this is the exact stuff that bothers me. At some point, even if it's possible, you have to realize that for some, it may be improbable. Also while there are other ways to handle these problems it's not always so easy to do when it comes to moving locations but I seriously doubt some even have that option since if you're struggling in the west due to being short, ugly, ethnic, etc. Then moving to a place with others of your own race w…
/r/MensRights27/11/23 05:26 PM
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I'm not gonna say I love Incels because I feel like for those who struggle far more than the average man in dating that there might be valid criticisms. These things have their nuances. I think it's easy to end up in certain traps of over valuing online dating apps and therefore focusing too much on looks and also because socializing is hard and risky it can get neglected rather than actually facing the difficulties. However, most people are totally on the other end, and I'm just like, you guys …
/r/MensRights27/11/23 04:51 PM
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Never seen evidence but I think if people actually put things out there then I don't doubt on rare occasions it can lead to higher success assuming you don't just end up pissing people off with your assertiveness.
/r/MensRights26/11/23 10:20 PM
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Personally, I like the snakes thing. Because with the ocean, it's not wrong that all the water isn't something you'd wanna drink. At least making the analogy of dating for women as like you have multiple options and only a few are poisoned is more realistic. The thing is, you rightfully wouldn't risk it going for the safe ones randomly and consistently but instead take time to process the likelihood of each option being poisoned. However, if you have no knowledge base, you choose nothing to avoi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:51 PM
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Would hope if I am made to wait its traditional values, but these days it isn't too unlikely to have other people on the side and date multiple people at once and all that
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 01:08 AM
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Honestly, I imagine it'd definitely save on the cheating claims if you were more upfront about how you trust her, but you would want that for your kids with any partner Although chances are, even if she doesn't nope out, then she might forget about you saying that before you have the kid and then be shocked
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 02:38 AM
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It's nice to get a reset, tbh because chances are you definitely can avoid people from your past, but idk how many people actually rise above their station.
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 03:06 PM
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Reality is just like you need to control your emotions to be a normal member of society. Not that incels shouldn't be angry and the normies have no right to devalue that when a lot of them are the same kinds of people to cause it whenever they laugh at ugly people, make fun of short people online, etc. But a lot of the expectations are just always going to be there, so whatever happens in a person's past will never justify hating women to a wider audience
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 03:04 PM
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I get the whole pregnant women thing as a fetish but I couldn't realistically imagine fucking one because there's just a lot of problematic shit to unpack with that
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 02:55 PM
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Idk what this means
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 02:54 PM
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She's like a 5 but I'd still smash Just looks like a normal average woman
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 02:53 PM
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At one point, we did. Men were the breadwinners while women stayed at home. The whole thing about men holding great political power. Although women have fought for their rights, I'd say we don't really live in such times as to where when someone needs a problem solved, they default to a man's PoV. Although if we do live in a patriarchy, I'd say we've mainly just kept the bad parts of it tbh. The stuff that hurts men, too, because we're still expecting men to meet a certain standard in performing…
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 10:55 PM
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Is this like racism? "White supremacists don't hate black people, but they just don't want to live in the same communities"
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 10:48 PM
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I'd think being a chad outweighs autism but neurodiverse definitely fucks up some chances
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 10:47 PM
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I feel like a neckbeard is kinda like what I've seen some transmen have. They'll have hair under their chin but not on the sides of their face
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 10:46 PM
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Why would I post pics of myself?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 09:34 PM
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Honestly, I feel like this is what most people do (not just black pillers). How many people do you know that donate? Volunteer? A lot of people just work because they have to and then do whatever they want to with their limited rest of their time. The only reason it's so controversial when said by black pillers is because the normal people don't have trouble being integrated into society so they want to single out those who do for being lazy and claim that's why they don't want to do any better …
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 04:55 PM
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Sometimes, I feel bad for femcels because taken at face value, some of their issues aren't unlike it is for men. They might legit not get approached, social anxiety keeping them at home all the time so no opportunity for their looksmatch to approach them or if they do some men might find them weird or just use them for sex while pretending to be legitimately interested. We constantly see how Asian men are undesirable while Asian women are like the most desired, so for women, it's like while men …
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 04:43 PM
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Honestly, I just feel like over a 6 inch gap should be enough, and obviously, preferences vary from person to person, but the fact that it's always short women who are the biggest gatekeepers of height is actually just brutal. Some of those midgets at their height of 4'10" want dudes who are 6'4" 🤣 I guess one could argue it's a projection of insecurity or how taller women wouldn't be as brutal if society didn't help reinforce the basic biological beliefs, and I don't expect short women to decid…
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 01:39 PM
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But being homeless is harder on women because they're more vulnerable /s
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 01:16 PM
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Never done drugs but can't say it isn't tempting in theory Hardly drink but sometimes I think maybe if I did people would like me more
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 03:45 AM
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I'd say being on Reddit late on a Saturday night isn't a sign or inceldom but I guess I can see how it is when most people have other things to do although I say 1 weekend or a couple of weekends scrolling Reddit all night at home isn't the worst thing for a person
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 03:44 AM
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Other than sex I'd say my goals are to make money (ideally through graphic design) and maybe I'll put out some comics
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 03:43 AM
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Time to find a 0 then (if they exist)
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 03:39 AM
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If I can only have one, it's LTR, but I mean... ideally a bit of both. That's the way normal people do it. You have your people who hookup in highschool/college and chances are the first few people you get with it's not going to work out but you find someone you do actually make it work with when you guys are older (but by older that can be anywhere from 25 to 40)
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 03:37 AM
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I mean... arguably, you can be a great figure at any height or looks level, but there's a difference between that and what a lot of people actually want.
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 03:33 AM
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Height is hot, but does it ever lose points at some point? Like 6'3"-6'5" could make up for below average face but might lose points when we get into the over 6'5" tier, but idk
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 03:29 AM
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6ft+ has half steps and I'm tempted to think even below that point to some extent someone who is 5'10" only needs 5.5 face not the whole 6 but while I don't think you need to be a chad to make up for what is not that far below average height I do feel like either way there's definitely a steep drop off at the under 5'6" tier given that the whole thing is women who might not even care about height still don't wanna date a shorter man and so you need a couple inches for her to see you as taller th…
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 03:24 AM
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I think the age thing can be a factor, but it's definitely not this massive thing some people make it out to be, I can agree. I mean... I still think you'll have younger women who want financial stability in a man or intend to settle down sooner but when you hear so much talk about age gaps being bad idk how that and younger women dating older leaving young men more single than ever can possibly co-exist.
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 06:03 PM
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I'm not "socially successful" like yourself, but as an incel I did have one friend who was a girl in high school. Then I kissed her and she told one of her friends that it was my first kiss, which was the most embarrassing thing ever 💀
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 05:57 PM
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Idk what qualifies as talkless, but I'm definitely a virgin, and even in the more innocent of romantic experiences, I am lacking
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 05:54 PM
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If he liked the Barbie movie and isn't spending his time trying to own feminists online, then I assume that's someone who, at least on the outside to a normal person, would seem more respectful of women and not just looking for an easy hookup or anything as well as he doesn't support a human trafficker
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 04:15 PM
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I don't doubt men are more violent on average, but it only takes so many women to do it. Can't tell me out of billions of women there aren't a few hundred or thousand who would want such a weapon but chances are none of them have the means financially or knowledge scientifically to try to begin with thankfully
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 03:16 PM
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The content on 2 is just more questionable. Can't deny redpill works, but just that 1 is a safer option for her
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 03:07 PM
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It'd be nice if it was reasonable, but it's not and makes zero sense because you actually need to offer something to stand out from others as valuable, and it's not being yourself that does that
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 02:56 PM
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They make those? I didn't realize there were books on the blackpill tbh
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 12:18 AM
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Honestly I'd almost think it the opposite because they'd rather rape women who aren't outwardly "slutty" as it'd feel more powerful to them than raping a woman who they assume is easy. That is in terms of people thinking hijab can stop rape except it actually makes things more likely in those cultures. However, it's probably easier if victim blaming will happen regardless to minimize the potential of someone saying, "but she was asking for it by showing off in those tight yoga pants and cleavage…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 12:05 AM
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Honestly, it's kinda rough on both sides how we got here. I can't fault women for valid fear even if they aren't totally correct either since the men who are predators are a minority and same with those who generalize men on either side whether it literally be men themselves or women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 12:00 AM
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That's life tbh. It's not always personality. That's the problem. Sometimes you're just not attractive, other people have their own stuff going on, etc. You can do everything right, but it won't always go your way (and some people can do lots of wrong, but everything works out). I genuinely believe most women do want that perfect gentleman despite the bad boys trend or people saying how amazing dark triad traits are but they want them in a nice package like if men said they wanted traditional ho…
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 10:52 PM
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What makes Tyrone better? BBC?
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 09:40 PM
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Hard to believe whenever ugly people are so assumed to have bad personality. Although sometimes you'd be amazed how looks and personality can almost be two very distinct things. Most people aren't going to stereotypically act how you'd think based on what they look like and that's not even just genetic attractiveness but can go for other things such as style
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 07:31 PM
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Military cucked af. If women have no loyalty to their homelands and loved ones, then why should men?
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 07:06 PM
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Eating ass I mean... I'd say that in general, doing sex acts you normally wouldn't and might even really dislike is pretty heavily simping Some guys would also do the same tbf. They can say they don't like pegging but if Stacy wanted to fuck them from behind they'd probably let it happen
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 01:09 PM
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Tbh, I don't think they're wrong because ugly women don't get female privilege, although average women, I think, still would where as average men aren't seen as at all attractive in comparison. A lot of the ugly women are really just fat or lack privilege due to being dark skinned too so those are other factors that can lower a person's privilege level but it's not much different from how men are seen as having privilege due to patriarchy but then the whole holding men up to these high masculine…
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 01:03 PM
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I doubt there are more chads as much as you notice them more although a big part of that is also chads going out more because they have more reason to while there's no real motivation anymore for sub 5 guys to be out and about generally
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 12:51 PM
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Honestly, I get how it's a problem that women are sold beauty standards, but I feel like if they all just stopped doing it, then problem solved. Or maybe they don't even all have to, and those women who do will get their attention. However, if women are cool being single compared to men, they can not make the effort to appeal to men who have those expectations and only be with men who like their women natural and very genuinely mean it. Maybe if you have to shave for work and wear makeup for wor…
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 08:33 PM
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I was unaware women were becoming stoic, but if that's the same shit they complain about for men, I call that hypocritical
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 03:59 AM
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I've been on a couple of vacations, like some cruise ship type things, but I don't see myself leaving America for any long-term period of time
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 03:55 AM
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Everyone else is doing it. Like most of the people having sex obviously aren't virgins, and oral is just a normalized thing. Ideally, they'd take a shower and stuff and get clean down there
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 03:54 AM
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Honestly, if the women who believe such things became an average man with their knowledge from being a woman, I still don't think they'd be able to pull tbh
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 08:36 PM
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That's what it's supposed to mean is 50% of people look better and 50% of people look worse, but I feel like ratings are a bit divorced from reality. Sometimes ratings get inflated by people who, when it comes to women, will rate any generically pretty girl as very above average. You also have those who will really downplay a person's looks, too, for various reasons. People who aren't actually that ugly but will get called ugly at times because some people just wanna be mean to them, and occasio…
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 08:33 PM
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Fat is USA average, although I get why fat people are going to struggle on OLD because it's just super unattractive, and most women have better options
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 08:22 PM
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Dude just needs to find a nice country girl irl /s
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 08:18 PM
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If dudes gonna pick up women for dates, then they really should have a clean car to try to leave a better impression, but I don't doubt that for some guy or girls, it wouldn't even matter
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 08:16 PM
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I never even watched sun and moon anime, and tbh that was the last game I played. Don't know that I even finished gen 6 anime.
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 08:12 PM
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I like pizza but diet is a small sacrifice for being attractive
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 08:11 PM
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Honestly, I can agree that family is highly important as a need
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 11:04 PM
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I agree with this tbh. I mean... women can get away with not providing as much whenever men just need one thing out of them. Although I'm hoping the species conquers our biology eventually
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 11:01 PM
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I don't think most men fuck escorts tbh although when most women call the cops against men that's probably a point in favor of women as they wouldn't need cops without men since they aren't calling them on other women as much allegedly
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 10:57 PM
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I mean... women are less violent I'd agree with but also how many woman are actually truecels?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 10:56 PM
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I think feminists are kinda onto something by saying men are the danger, but it's still a minority of men, and it's not like there are zero female mass shooters or anything like that. Women just lack the same sexual needs, and it's not a competition to them either, but there are other things than getting laid that might rank higher and I think could radicalize some women. While for men, it's usually the ugly, short, autistic ones for women if the hot ones lost their pretty privilege, we'd be see…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 10:54 PM
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Idk about the whole multiverse thing but I do think there are other potential timelines where different choices would've ended up with me happier and it's not even about being a chad as much as just being at minimum a normie
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 10:45 PM
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Even if they did cure male balding, it'd probably be in a way that takes advantage of balding men by it being something you need to pay for over a regular time period vs a 1 time thing or it'd just be stupid overpriced compared to the cost of doing it
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 10:43 PM
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I assume other factors can explain certain things, but there's a reason passport bros exist, and I don't think it's just bad ugly men want to abuse some poor young ladies
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 10:41 PM
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In the world of granny pills, the wall is just non-existent
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 07:22 PM
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I can't even help but laugh so hard at this
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 04:37 PM
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Honestly, the funny thing about anti feminist types is that I think they secretly are feminists but it's this weird thing where two people who actually would agree never will because it's in neither person's best interest
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 04:33 AM
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They're notably less common than men, and some of them don't even like men of their own tier which tbf neither do the men, so that's a part of the issue, I think. More autistic men than women, and while they'd ideally connect better with each other, sometimes it just doesn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 03:48 AM
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Red Hoodie Dude is based
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 03:34 AM
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Same. Tbf, it's not accurate because there's a whole thing about photos and how all the different factors are from how much body is in the shot, facial expressions, background, etc. Can influence rates, but it doesn't make it hurt any less because I know it's true
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 03:22 AM
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Having a slut for a mom I can only imagine is absolutely brutal. The things you might hear when your father is gone and you're not in the room about her past when she's on the phone with friends or talking to other family members. Not things that'd have you view your parents the same way
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 05:43 PM
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Would be absolutely brutal to hear because even if you know you're approved it tells you how much a difference could've been made in your life with a small change in circumstances and makes you worry about what if something happens later on like would women who like tall guys date a tall guy if he got wheelchair bound during the relationship? Lost his legs?
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 05:39 PM
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Females out here wanting 11 inches minimum height gap and dating guys who are 17 inches taller
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 05:31 PM
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Feel like it depends on how similar 2 people look since that can vary among siblings Like perfect twins where no one has a defect? 100%, you should be able to pull almost as well if you built up the skills just regular brothers, and it can be pretty 50/50 If you're twins but one has a severe defect, then the other brother could be a literal Chad, but it's over for you because half your face is drooping and just insanely disturbing to the general public
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 05:22 PM
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Kinda says everything everyone knows about dating apps when people complain about how men have shit profiles while other guys with a selfie and no bio gets many times the matches Reality is a good profile is no guarantee of even 1 match
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 05:17 PM
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This is what I wonder but I think we already knew 25yo virgins are infinitely fucked
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 01:22 AM
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Well, at least someone is honest about it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 01:20 AM
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Could use cis, but idk how much trans changes the woman experience unless she's super obviously not passing, or maybe its a biological thinking, but if they're trans I'd expect a woman's brain
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 01:04 AM
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This just sounds like such a nice girls or not like other girls thing to think men are dating bad women because they have a nice ass
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 01:01 AM
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I agree it's not hate but I disagree on respect only because extroverts 100% are more respected since respect can be gained through charisma and shy introverted guys don't have any as well as it's not their traditional gender role as a man either to be quiet
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 12:58 AM
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I don't want to be angry but it is what it is
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 11:01 PM
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If the issue is just men having trash profiles, then someone needs to try some experiments to see what a good profile is, but tbh I have a hard time believing that's 100% of the problem here
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 10:59 PM
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They probably just don't even think about it when they do it but they know they're not attracted to you so it doesn't really effect anything because they're basically just voicing their opinion without a care in the world and probably to someone else not you if there are others around
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 10:26 PM
1

He looks like a cuck
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 07:46 PM
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If you want to say not short guys have problems, then I'd find that more agreeable. People will be 5'10" and complain their problem is that they aren't 6 feet tall despite being a good height. However, the fact is that actual short guys have problems. It'd ignore the reality of how height works in life by saying they're just angry and making excuses and that it doesn't matter all that much. Guys who are under 5'6" even if they were accomplished just don't get the same respect due to their lackin…
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 07:44 PM
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Between 5'7" and 5'8"
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 07:39 PM
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I feel like it's definitely not the quality people make it out to be, but it allows for more of an assumption in some sense. I mean... a woman with 100 body count can be way more loyal than someone with closer to average like 10 and maybe it's one of those things where by having had all that experience she knows what she wants and that she wants only you. Although to get there, she had to sample a lot of different flavors, which tells you she's not someone who will stick around if you're not up …
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 07:37 PM
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Good dick size, but at the same time, I can relate to this because while my girth is pretty solid, I also wouldn't mind an extra inch in length
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 07:31 PM
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Idk. This hair color thing is confusing, but I guess, like in natural lighting that those with darker blonde hair, you can see the blonde on the tips. Notice more of a difference where sunlight highlights the hair vs. someone with brown or black hair that even when the sun hits it, there won't be any yellowish color but instead more of cooler blue reflections.
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 07:27 PM
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Idk if the problems they have are even with the average man, but the average man can see these things on the internet so easily, and so anything generalized will offend many who aren't the intended target
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 07:12 PM
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I am so confused, but I guess personality is as much as for ugly men that doesn't mean shit If an ugly woman liked D&D, Warhammer, anime, photography, painting, etc. I'd want to hang out with her more than someone I have nothing in common with, nor do I find them nice to look at
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 07:10 PM
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I can't imagine it's exactly sustainable when men who aren't in total isolation already have trouble so to be totally isolated you'd have to like not even be a part of society anymore, hunt for your own food, etc. It's not the most realistic to obtain lifestyle, but I'm sure it's possible
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 08:14 PM
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I feel like if you gatekeep sex that also gatekeeps marriage But it is better not to risk stuff like STDs and pregnancy with men who are not really in a great place to handle these things. Otherwise, you end up as a single mom
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 08:12 PM
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As long as a man is hot, then it's definitely something he can get away with, which is weird because you'd think there would be higher standards on the end of women speaking from a moral perspective
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 08:09 PM
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Should at minimum call the police but it's not worth becoming a victim yourself
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 08:07 PM
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Being a neurodiverse virgin is pretty unattractive in a man
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 08:02 PM
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Ah, so that's who the take a shower advice was directed at I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 07:58 PM
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Halo effect is some interesting stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 07:38 PM
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Agreed, unless you're hot, obviously, it works out a lot more
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 07:34 PM
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I don't think they're totally the truth because it varies, but it's a lot of reasonable assumptions that, based on certain traits, it could mean something not so appealing
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 05:59 PM
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I doubt lonely men imagine it lasting for decades because they probably think they'll kill themselves eventually
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 05:58 PM
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So what you're saying is it's guys' fault because they just don't want to commit
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 05:43 PM
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If it gets you what you want, I say it's worth it, but I do think the lying probably wouldn't work out too well Women will wear makeup and stuff, so if men can height fraud and not get caught, then what's the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 05:16 PM
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How does that whole sliding into a girls DMs on social media thing work out?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 05:15 PM
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Legit sounds like a fucking joke
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 05:13 PM
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Isn't this most women?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 04:56 PM
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It's an important subject. 99% of women don't want to date a misogynist, and so this being an easy turn-off will clear out the ones who read it. Although it's definitely not going to be the selling point for me
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 04:37 PM
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They definitely have their own forever alone sub for a reason
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 04:33 PM
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19-99 for me lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 04:29 PM
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Is wearing shorts an ick?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 04:27 PM
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Yeah, I'd agree... I don't really think it's a racial thing as much as a looks thing when it comes to the idea of female privilege This is why I wouldn't include fat ugly redneck women who are from poor families eating mayonnaise toast or whatever But even like attractive black women, despite the other issues that may occur being black, you still get the attractive woman benefits
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 03:32 PM
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I could not even imagine it to be in that situation
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 03:27 PM
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They have police officers at schools, but I'm not sure how that's helping on the security end
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 03:24 PM
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The people who do it are seriously fucked in the head to resort to violence like that and idk that it is totally due to inschool bullying alone as much as other things can contribute outside of schools, but I 100% do agree it comes off as hypocritical. Some of the most anti bullying types have been guilty of it themselves or at least complicit in some sense. The Social Media Era certainly isn't helping the situation. It's like when people kill themselves after being bullied, but where were you w…
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 03:19 PM
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Any male privileges are definitely like immediately lost once you piss off other men and people can say how men don't stand up for women enough but there are certainly enough times like these where a group of men will step in and especially if the woman is friends or family you'll get fucked up for it even if you did nothing wrong
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 03:13 PM
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I don't support violence against women and its probably the right thing that other men get involved since any 1v1 fight would be a massacre towards the woman and just absolutely brutal due to genetic realities as there's a reason we have sports league separated by gender as it's simple biology However, equal rights should mean equal fights, so it is pretty cucked how much some guys will white knight and go so hard as a group on one man
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 03:06 PM
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Imma still fuck but if I can go down on a woman and she doesn't want to do it for me without valid reason then I think it's just over after that for any chance of things working out long term.
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 02:57 PM
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That's almost how I'd take it Maybe there is some truth in the idea that women change their minds However, idk if that's something worth being caught up in is getting with women who you've known a while and are only recently catching feelings
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 02:49 PM
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I feel like this is a topic we can all universally get behind and address Whether you're pink or black pill, no one wants guys to pursue women they have no chance with
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 02:47 PM
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I'd hope they choose to live a child free lifestyle, but at some point, things happen
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 02:45 PM
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This is why I'd move if hypothetically I lived in a small town and my future daughter ever did OF. I mean... these things just kinda get around, and I don't want to see it. Wouldn't be anything against her, but if people are finding out these girls are doing things and then sending it out to their friends/family, I don't want to be in the physical proximity.
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 02:40 PM
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I wouldn't have personal stakes, but I think Israel is more likely to be the winning side
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 02:34 PM
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All of the above, maybe? I think when it comes to men who are all like, "looks don't matter and it's all about personality," they are generally men who are probably good guys. Therefore, they wouldn't be caught dead associating with what women view as "toxic men" such as incels or redpillers. They know its wrong to hate an entire gender over their own looks insecurities or that they'd rather not build status just to pump and dump. This is why they'll try to separate themselves off even if they a…
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 02:24 PM
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I was unaware it was illegal The only way I could've imagined it was not legal are the people who use women to do it to scam men out of money
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 01:54 PM
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All women know they have value as a masturbation device, so hoeflation isn't a surprising end result even if neither end enjoys it.
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 01:51 PM
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Tbh I hate the volunteering advice because, let's be honest, the vast majority of people don't volunteer. But I guess maybe it has worked out for someone before, even if we've never seen it. I also don't know a lot of people who have ever been to a church either As well as these days, a decent number of people aren't exactly receptive to small talk even if you made the effort
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 01:41 PM
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I feel like, to some extent, but it's not easy and honestly might not even be possible in some cases I think controlling anger, learning more about things, and taking the time to be more outgoing towards others, these are things you can do to improve personality. When people make complaints about how some men get overly emotional, are unwilling to see things from their perspective as a woman, and how they don't like guys who keep to themselves these are things that an effort can be made about. H…
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 01:38 PM
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They'd probably assume the girl just has depression
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 01:30 PM
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RIP to the importance of hygiene Also, when women say things about their BFs having a short temper, you'd think they wouldn't be so willing to put up with that
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 01:27 PM
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Just the difference of men and women. Men don't complain about how all the male action stars are handsome
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 01:20 PM
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They probably don't realize or believe any black pillers have friends, let alone of the Chad kind
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 01:19 PM
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A lot of it is probably just because that's their only experience, or maybe they do hookup and stuff, but it's still under certain circumstances. When most men aren't flooded with casual sex from women they'll just assume women don't do casual but they know they can be successful with women in their social circles so they think it's best to get to know them as that's what gets taught growing up. Can only imagine how things would be if these things were more known tho as far as what some women wi…
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 01:18 PM
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Even if (casual)sex isn't on the table I think you'd still see it in other ways that women would make themselves more available to guys with much higher attraction even if it's not involving the act of sex itself or behaviors like a ONS
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 01:14 PM
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I feel like more nuance is required, but honestly, I feel like there is truth to this There are some behaviors and differences in how a woman might handle a top-tier guy compared to how they deal with mid guys. We could get into how "oh, if women have sex with you too early it means she doesn't view you as LTR material" or how "it doesn't mean you're unattractive as there are other forms of attraction than just raw sexual lust and passion" but I think as humans if we find someone to be exception…
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 01:10 PM
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Attractive* White Women (ideally born into a decent family)
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 01:00 PM
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I'd agree with that, but I do think how society is about either gender is one of those things that doesn't help. I mean... we're all human with our own differences, so that's an issue with any generalizations on gender. However, there are minor biological differences, and things like gender roles in society and stuff aren't going to be the thing that helps with saying men and women aren't that different. We can do our normal stuff of pulling out statistics, but it doesn't tell us how we got ther…
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 12:58 PM
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Men and women are just different, and it is what it is. Could be a lot of things and not just biology but socialization and stuff too. We value different things in a romance/relationship. We value the relationship(s) themselves differently. We could debate all kinds of subjects about how women care more about being with 1 man who is the best person for her while men aspire to spread their seed far and wide or how men are more likely to settle for ugly chicks as a source of consistent pussy while…
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 12:44 PM
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Honestly, on point number 3, I'd argue that's worse I mean... being a smelly nerd with a funny accent probably isn't worse than being associated with a criminal organization
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 12:34 PM
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The only defense I can think is the one where they don't actually hate sexually unsuccessful men, but they just know that older virgins are bothered by their own virginity. The purpose being that shaming them for it will hurt them even if you don't mind virgins in general There are other insults about dick size and stuff that have had people use this defense. "Oh, we don't hate guys with small penises," but small dick energy instead refers to the men who overly compensate for what they perceive …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 05:41 PM
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Gotta love women who love animals
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 11:49 PM
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Relatable
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 11:47 PM
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You'd think that but women aren't into it a lot of the time it seems when men are honest about it because they think it's weird you'd never have had sex before which might reflect a bad attitude of women, they don't want to teach, and for all I know maybe they just think virgin men will be too clingy
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 11:41 PM
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I wouldn't say it does matter to me personally, but it's kinda easy to make certain assumptions once you know, even if there is room for nuance Part of the reason I think it doesn't matter for men is because women don't make it matter. Never heard a woman say they wanted a virgin man or that sleeping with multiple women makes them feel like a 2nd choice or whatever else. If anything, you're more likely to hear the opposite, even if maybe either side is vocal minorities
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 11:37 PM
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I like it as an option but the consequences are fucked
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 11:33 PM
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Probably not, but I think these things are more nuanced than can be presented, and honestly, it depends on where you are in life yourself. Like the big thing is, do I enjoy spending time with her? That'll be the important part outside of just looks, education, etc. Although I'd say not being educated and making minimum wage would have me wanting to say no combined with lack of physical attraction because I think it's reasonable to want a woman who is your equal in some sense or if she were hot t…
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 11:30 PM
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I think it kinda tells you the kind of men they surround themselves with if they assume the average guy is overly cocky and arrogant
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 11:13 PM
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How? I thought incel means involuntarily celibate and so normies who aren't the woman's first pick are still getting some level of pussy therefore can't be incels by definition
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 11:10 PM
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If you already have a girlfriend then it's pointless to get into the "Chad nonsense" anyways but it's just one of those things where guys who don't can make more objective observations by seeing these things in daily life without thinking about their own situation
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 11:07 PM
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I'm not even that hung up on wanting kids, necessarily Although I just think there should be more compatibility than me wanting to use a woman for her pussy and her wanting me for whatever reasons force her into a not so great situation that at which point who knows where things go after she recovers
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 11:44 AM
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Well, of course she's happy I'd be happy, too, if after 2 toxic relationships, I got a "nice" guy
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 02:52 AM
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Somehow, I would've thought it'd be more women attracted to single fathers, although despite the small difference, I think for men, it's more of a take what you can get thing than for women
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 02:36 AM
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Who even is this woman? Whats her insta?
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 02:33 AM
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Honestly, being with a single mom would make me question if any future kid is even mine but at the same time if you're already in that situation and raise the kid as if they were your own you've already proven a willingness for it and not caring as much about DNA
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 02:31 AM
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I wouldn't want to be the guy, but honestly, people judging it is kinda to me, just like if any men are happy this way, then good for them I think the reality is that if a woman has 2 kids potentially by 2 different men and is in a bad place that you coming in to save the day isn't really who I would want to be but if you guys hit it off and you're willing to be the father who stepped up and she has your kid (or so we assume unless she's cheating) then I wish those guys a happy family life I'm s…
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 02:28 AM
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I agree with the title but don't give enough of a fuck nor do I believe it'd be right to take action even if we had the power to I mean... if women don't want to date bottom tier men then the trend of them radicalizing will continue. Guys who are desperate to rape and murder women for rejecting them I don't believe are men we can reason with. But if someone did want to fuck them consensually then let's be honest a lot of the horribly misogynistic folks would turn their views down in a heartbeat …
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 02:17 AM
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Would take so many circumstances that I don't think this one question can account for I mean... I think if she's so willing to change, a good person, I'm attracted to her, etc. Then maybe it could be worth it, right? But for her to have ended up in that situation to begin with probably isn't great. Like she must be mentally ill, her parents kicked her out, etc. Not exactly the kinds of traits valued in a woman. Could be the kind of lifestyle that leads to a lot of sex with bad people. Sucking di…
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 02:09 AM
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I'm more convinced by the porn bad side, but at the same time, if a man was never going to get laid anyways, then honestly, why not? At some point, you're not losing much by being harmed if you're legitimately in a situation where it's over
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:57 AM
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Seems like only 15% are without a partner unless I'm misinterpreting the info Some of the stuff like financial definitely sucks because I can't imagine wanting kids but being turned off knowing they're expensive But if the issue is medical, couldn't they adopt or something? And then age is an issue, but that's more so for women who already have kids but just aren't going to have more
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:50 AM
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When their hobby is flooded by men and just generally not that interesting to most people, it's no wonder women don't like them
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 09:43 PM
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I'm 2000 born, but I feel like those born in 2010 probably will have it worse
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 09:41 PM
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Probably not
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 09:39 PM
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True and honestly, if I could go back, I'd change things because it's not worth sacrificing your social life for future goals
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 09:26 PM
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I assume some would do it so that they could be taken more seriously at work and not have to worry about periods/pregnancy or being raped
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 09:24 PM
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If a woman didn't have her own thoughts, interests, etc. Then that'd be what's unappealing
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 02:56 AM
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I was unaware there was such an epidemic of tall men that can't get laid, but I can only assume they're either not on dating apps, too shy, or extremely ugly, autistic, etc. because an average looking man who is decent at socializing should be able to leverage being tall to get more girls than other guys who aren't as tall would be able to.
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/23 02:14 AM
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To cheat defeats the purpose of being in a commitment
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/23 02:10 AM
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I don't think they're going Chad or bust, but women are definitely happier to stay single than settle too much with a guy they're not very into if they don't have to
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/23 02:08 AM
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I'd say some of the red flags could be attractive. Artsy guys probably like artsy women, and the types of women who are artists and stuff would have colored hair, piercings, etc. But it definitely does have a lot of negatives to it too
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 09:33 PM
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Damn, so do most women not care about their rights or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 09:29 PM
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Never even watch romance stuff because it's kinda boring to me so idk
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 09:25 PM
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There are definitely a few who probably go to Dubai and do some shit for some insanely wealthy guys, and it's like things no normal person would be into
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 09:24 PM
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Idk if I've ever seen women say they hate men who are virgins but a lot of statements about not wanting to teach, how it's weird to be one after 25, etc. Kinda allows you to pull the idea that they view it negatively out of that
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 09:21 PM
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Probably. The end goal is more freedom, not less, which is reasonable. Women have dealt with the standard of needing to be virgins for marriage for a long time. So I can see how they just want to be able to fuck guys without being married and fuck multiple men uncommitted without being called bad things for it since they don't see it as bad when men do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 09:19 PM
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I think most men are just after normal women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 06:50 PM
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I'd believe it
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 06:49 PM
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I'd say high school stereotypically has more clique BS, such as bullying. However, at the same time, you don't need money or anything. People don't expect you to be as experienced either. Once you're in college, you're expected to date as a fully formed adult. More competitive, too. College girls can fuck men in their 30s-40s where as for high-school girls even a man in their 20s dating one would be called a pedo
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 06:45 PM
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No, probably not
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 06:43 PM
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Even if online did work I still think irl would be preferable because even if you didn't think someone was a serial killer or some other bad thing on the other side of the screen before meeting in person it'd be nice to have something as a base to work from but even irl dating isn't in a great place, so...
/r/MensRights21/10/23 06:20 PM
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I don't think it should be, but the danger of letting feelings be known is that they open things up. Kinda like that whole thing about how when someone is bothering you, then you don't react because it let's then know they're achieving their goal of getting a rise out of you. The thing is, I don't think it should be a weakness, but there's always the risk that anything said can be brought up later on for not so great reasons.
/r/MensRights21/10/23 05:51 PM
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Honestly, I am tempted to think that if women are fighting more/men fighting less, it's because men know they'll get their shit rocked so hard vs. another man. Women in prisons don't go in with that lesson, and it might be less of a concern on the radar for the people in charge of the prisons to want to deal with.
/r/MensRights21/10/23 05:47 PM
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I really hate the true classic shirt commercials
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 04:57 PM
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High body count and high standards aren't incompatible. You can still fuck a lot of people but just only within what is people above a certain level.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 04:45 PM
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At least there's consistency and not just women giving each other a pass while men who pay for sex are bad
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 04:39 PM
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Thanks, although I think people who are currently struggling probably would still have trouble inserting themselves into circles where drug use is the norm
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 04:28 PM
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At some point, people expect men to die more, so they're probably thinking it just evens out eventually, but it's still a shitty thing
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 02:40 PM
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I'm all for being a good person, but at some point, people have to realize that some of these things are actually hurting themselves
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 02:28 PM
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Never began
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 02:26 PM
2

3
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 02:25 PM
1

I fit into multiple categories
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 02:22 PM
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Honestly, it's an aspect I find hilarious People think being a "radical incel" comes from specific spaces Some of the people who have blackpilled views got that way from the most normal of lifestyle
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 02:22 PM
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I don't support charities in general
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 02:19 PM
1

With Tradcons, I don't think it is my thing anyway Although I think to some extent, even if it's not about me that when dating those liberal tattooed women, you gotta wonder more what your family might think I mean... even if you don't want kids, or such women can be great partners and stuff, there's always going to be those assumptions, and it's like it wouldn't bother me, but generally I don't think guys want their friends to assume their gf is promiscuous There's always going to be that one d…
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 06:43 PM
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Men are stronger than women is a well-known thing, so if men are in charge of older societies, I can only imagine that part of it is physical power that put them in certain positions
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 06:39 PM
1

I think women do more to create incels than ugly men passing on their genes
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 06:26 PM
1

I'd say Jason Momoa since there are some images where he isn't as ripped in the ab department, although it doesn't really matter since he's still significantly healthier than just the average, not fat person. He's still a 6-foot buff superhero actor compared to a shorter, less muscular man of a healthy weight. Just that he's the only one I've ever really seen people say has a dad bod tho. No one has said that about other action stars as far as I've seen
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 05:36 PM
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I definitely think it is weight because most women and men don't like fat people
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 05:23 PM
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It's probably not likely but women all the time are like all men are a danger because even if it were only 1% of men you don't know which 1 it is so it's the same for this. 99% of women probably won't ruin your life if you're normal and respectful, but do you really want to run into that 1 who will take a normal interaction and play it up into something that gets others on their side against you? Also, maybe they are actually doing something wrong, but if so, that's probably just more motivation…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 05:15 PM
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If anyone does, it's probably an overreaction. Reversing the typical roles, even if it's not true, because there are plenty of good people who aren't ugly and plenty of ugly people who have bad personalities However, I do think with looks, some people get too much benefit of the doubt, and other people get none It's almost a stereotype that creepers, pedos, those who overly indulge in anime, etc. Are very unattractive. Pretty people just aren't as often seen as bad initially by those who dont kn…
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 02:33 PM
1

My looks might as well be getting negative ratings, tbh, lol
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 02:22 PM
3

The racism thing isn't something I thought of although tbh while a lot of feminists might be into intersectionality and condemn racism out loud I imagine they probably have their own biases they don't talk about when it comes to being extra defensive around black men
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 01:40 AM
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I'd assume that's their Endgame tbh These women don't want men to approach them, and the men they do want to approach aren't going to be stopped by it. But generally, I think there's definitely a certain subset of women who would be so happy to never be talked to on the street by a random man ever again Although then, sometimes you occasionally hear women talk about how modern men are no longer manly and that they don't get attention or haven't been asked out before, so there's that... I mean...…
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 01:36 AM
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I don't imagine they think past the immediate danger Although for any women uploading their tiktoks about rejecting men and stuff even if they never expect it to go viral if you were really in danger I definitely don't think people seeing those things and recognizing you would help
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 01:33 AM
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I imagine there's a small chance it actually does happen, and realistically, it makes sense that women are less likely to take that risk Although I do think we need to stop pretending these things are a super majority of men Also, it's not like the men they do give a pass are exactly excluded from being a risk, but if a woman is into it, she'll just totally ignore that
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 01:28 AM
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If the people who get with known criminals were smart, they would not do it. I don't care about how attractive they are because even if attraction isn't a choice hoe you act upon it 100% is. Although I think the usual assumption people make it that those who admire these awful people are a minority of individuals who are on the more damaged end of things having themselves been victims of something, low self worth, mentally disabled in some fashion, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 02:50 AM
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I don't think you have to be a chad/Stacy for a good relationship, nor does being one guarantee your relationships will be happy Although with the way things are headed, I could imagine it becoming the case Like we kinda already know how bad things are/could be with social media and everything making it so that people get into relationships less and also exposing how unhealthy some relationships are to a wider audience. Dating apps turning things into a meat market and then how are you supposed …
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/23 02:05 PM
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Yeah, it's actually crazy that not wanting to be with a single mom is considered a high standard. I mean... I know it's not a rare thing, but I didn't realize how common it actually was
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 02:28 AM
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Tbf, they can't math, so if they think 7 inches is average, they might actually mean 6, which is still not correct, but it's probably not as bad as it sounds
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 02:08 AM
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Only further adds to bottom 10% of men being worse than bottom 10% of women
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 02:22 AM
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I'm not someone who wants to be on TV as that's too public, and I'm not attractive enough for it anyway since they'd probably cast some decent looking and somewhat entertaining people
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 02:18 AM
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Probably true, but I figure it's better that a man knows their place rather than being overly confident as a lot of people are and overrating yourself
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 02:17 AM
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Tbh, I think that's the funniest part People assume that a lot of unsuccessful men must be sharing these views irl or something, so that's what's turning women off I think most people know better, tho Also, if women could tell zero abusive relationships would exist Honestly, at this point, the I word has lost meaning
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 02:15 AM
1

Honestly, I doubt the forever alone black women even all fit into such stereotypes, but I mean... idk these people irl
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 02:11 AM
1

The way I see it, it's not likely for both men and women to have success at some point, you have winners/losers women would be smart to not help out unsuccessful men since that's just a downside to them I can't see any motivation why they would help if they did, they'd probably come out not benefitting from it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 09:02 PM
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Not sure how worthwhile Tiktok is as a source but the most hilarious part would be that a lot of those women probably aren't worth the traditional treatment they seek and are only now setting those standards after the fact
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 08:58 PM
1

Kid has pug vibes and I don't think pugs are a healthy/ethical dog breed from what I hear
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 08:09 PM
2

Normally, I wouldn't, but to some extent, if you know you could pass on some nasty stuff to future generations, it's for the best that you just don't
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 08:07 PM
2

I've never done it, but if it's just an online thing with nothing to lose, then I don't see why not because it could lead to funny results I'm not going to take that approach irl or anything like that, tho because there are so many ways it goes wrong
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 08:04 PM
1

It's probably the only way I lose my anal virginity since no trans girls are letting me be the one to stick it in her ass lol
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 07:51 PM
2

Some of these women are... a bit aggressive
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 07:48 PM
1

At a certain point, I'm not sure how much what someone was born as matters if, as of now, I perceive them as an attractive woman It's not gay to be attracted to attractive trans women if they pass for women because it means you like women, so...
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 07:34 PM
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Not so convinced validation from women is really worth much
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 07:32 PM
2

It never happened randomly, but I figure people just keep it to themselves Never got irl hate from someone I didn't know
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 07:17 PM
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Imagine there's more nuance needed but if men who wouldn't have had trouble in the past settling down are now having trouble getting to the point in their life where they end up with a wife and kids (assuming that's what they want) then that's probably a problem and should be looked into Definitely do think like if you're an average man being rejected by a bunch a below average women that something with that picture isn't right You'd expect some level of success with people within your own range…
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 07:01 PM
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Ngl, you'd think women would do better single They're always saying that getting pregnant and taking time off work for the kids is hurting their hourly wages and chance of promotion
/r/MensRights11/10/23 11:05 PM
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It does seem like genuinely happy people generally aren't raping and murdering Not that it's an excuse for bad behavior, but certainly just the reasons might be a worthwhile thing to get more into I wouldn't think it's just that they're all unfeeling psychos or even uneducated on their actions being wrong
/r/MensRights11/10/23 10:56 PM
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As far as people are concerned, men are the expected casualties of war Then they blame us because the leaders of the terrorists, the presidents, etc. Are men But reality is more nuanced than just all men being to blame for war or even most men And it's like men get forced into war unwillingly, yet it's women who are the innocent victims and not unrightfully so since civilian casualties and stuff shouldn't be a thing, but still
/r/MensRights11/10/23 03:28 PM
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I support women on abortion, but when it comes to things like this, women really need to fight harder on their boundaries. Safe sex rarely is going to get you pregnant if done right. Shouldn't let a man coerce you into unprotected sex for his pleasure. Him doing something like that means he doesn't really care about you. The way I see it the best thing you can do is never need an abortion in the first place, so that it's more of a last resort if things do go wrong rather than a back up plan allo…
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 02:58 PM
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I'm not surprised teen girls don't respect/stand up for themselves, but legitimately, it is just like if you don't wanna get pregnant by a guy, you shouldn't let them hit it raw. If that makes them upset, you as a woman have the power to speak up to others about it, but they'd rather stay with a man who doesn't actually care about them for whatever reason
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 02:31 PM
3

If everyone did it, then it'd definitely just be the average expected thing, but we're pretty far off from that, at least in America, where the average is fat, not fit
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 02:28 PM
1

Was a student earlier, but not anymore, so now a NEET
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 10:03 PM
1

1 girl kinda tolerated me in high-school but that was about it
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 10:02 PM
3

My assumption is it's something like women would rather fuck women than the average man but idk
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 10:01 PM
1

Ropeordope is 100% #1 and ROB is a close 2nd while idk the other 2
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 09:58 PM
1

I think there are funny guys who aren't attractive, but being attractive does make a not funny guy probably come off as more funny since they'll still get a laugh or something. There are short guys and fat guys who are funny and can make it work for them although those guys also might have celebrity status and stuff so I'm sure that's helping them more in getting girls than just being funny
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 09:57 PM
5

I'm surprised half said yes
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/23 05:04 PM
1

I feel like this would be good at first, but then go downhill when it turns out some people lack the relationship skills, and so neither person ends up happy because things are just dead
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 06:25 PM
1

I have low standards of women, but I'd say they're decent. I mean... maybe the women are a bit older or whatever, but it's fine. Although whenever you see a really hot young college girl who takes good care of herself, she's always with a pretty tall man who has other good features too
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 01:47 PM
1

I'm not against dating bisexuals
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 01:02 AM
3

No way A isn't a winner
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 12:55 AM
3

Yeah, they do. And I think a lot of men don't really want to contribute to that even tho reality is there always will be plenty of men who do and those men are winning for a reason. Women will say various things all the time, but listening to it is not how you succeed. Can't trust a woman's advice on women because they don't actually know how to attract women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 07:42 PM
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I think the gap is a bit bigger since the average man isn't an incel but it's definitely not like a massive gap and I do think it's amazing how big of a difference even an extra 2 inches of bone might make
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/23 09:15 PM
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Sounds like a trap If you're offering with the intent that you want the man to turn you down, then you're legit just testing him for your own purposes to see how much you can get away with later
/r/MensRights29/09/23 11:10 AM
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It's terrible for the falsely accused Although I think if the people who complain about how we need to take rape more seriously actually cared, then I'd think that as a whole, doing more to combat the false allegations should be beneficial If you make it more okay to lie about this stuff, then you get more false allegations that only discredit the real victims later on because they get lost in the pile of false accusations
/r/MensRights29/09/23 03:14 AM
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I want to disagree, but, tbh idk if I can Being neurotypical is just too important And obviously, while looks are also super important, it's inevitably something most people compromise on anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 01:12 AM
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I mean... I think people who have tattoos are probably a certain type of person, and I can understand that being more or less appealing. It's just a matter of varied taste. Some men like it, and others don't. Like, there's a demographic for alt chicks, and I'm sure the men who end up with them are happy.
/r/AllPillDebate28/09/23 10:57 PM
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Realistically I think the reason people make a problem of it is that part of marriage is "in sickness and in health" so it makes sense if you're going to make that commitment you're willing to deal with the consequences when it comes about Although if the medical bills are piling up, then I definitely think it is understandable how that might be hard on a person and without a second income since their partner is sick Think fixing the medical system probably would help, but also, I think it's jus…
/r/MensRights28/09/23 10:47 PM
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Idk how someone can justify that over what isn't a ton of money. It's actually insane
/r/MensRights28/09/23 10:34 PM
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Idk how those situations work exactly when women say they were raped despite giving consent But my assumption is that they would've felt uncomfortable at some point during the sex, so if you're not comfortable enough with someone to tell them when it's not working out then I think that's a problem. Idk if that's someone you should be having sex with, but I guess you don't expect that discomfort ahead of time. Or like in other situations where I could understand being scared if you get nonconsenu…
/r/MensRights28/09/23 10:28 PM
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People see fast food workers and stuff as subhuman, too, so I can see what you're saying But I also think if it does happen that at least like they can call the police and not risk being arrested themselves compared to an illegal prostitute where you kinda are at a disadvantage since it's either assumed consensual because he paid and you'll probably get arrested since you're a criminal too I don't really think all people who see escorts are automically bad, either. I mean... would a woman be a b…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 11:08 PM
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Can give it a try, but I assume even if a 19 year old girl and a 35 year old man legally can date that, they have very different interests. Different ideas on marriage. Different entertainment preferences. Grew up in different time periods with different values. The older guy might be more likely to be used for his money. Younger girls might have less self-esteem, and then that creates some issue somewhere. I mean... I say do it if it can be made to work, but I imagine the reason it isn't common…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 11:05 PM
1

Definitely agree with more trouble than is worth
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 11:02 PM
1

People talk about life stages, so definitely think people who are graduates and working should be more mature than teenagers which is why it'd make more sense for someone 25 to date someone 35 than for someone 19 to date a 23 since the 19 can't drink in America we have laws about age of consent and everything else since we know younger folks aren't mature enough to adult but once you can adult properly, you're allowed to expand your option with less risk of being taken advantage of
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 11:01 PM
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Honestly, I'd appreciate the honesty way more. I mean... women don't have to date ugly guys or any other guy who doesn't meet their standards for whatever reason. Society is changing, and for women, I'm sure it's great even if there'll always be a section of men who aren't going to agree or who are unhappy because of it. I don't think we can just pretend like everything is perfectly fine tho and that "oh, you just didn't put in enough effort" because some people legit just are unwanted and prete…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 10:57 PM
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I feel like this is becoming a common type of topic Women just aren't as horny. They don't want to be in relationships as much anymore now that they don't have to be. Because they want it less, there's no need to entertain men who aren't for then. I don't even exactly disagree on the women's end because they shouldn't force relationships they won't be invested in, and it's great for women
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 10:54 PM
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Seems weird to think about marriage if you think it's not unlikely to fail Although I do think divorce is just a really complicated thing And it's like sometimes things don't work out I wouldn't use it as a sign of anything wrong with myself just because of getting a divorce and it's worth it to be prepared for the worse possible option even if your hope is that it never happens I mean... if you make it work for 10-20+ years I call that a success and if you end up needing to try again after a fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 10:49 PM
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This is something I've thought a lot about since it is a common advice to treat women like you would anyone else and I'm sure it can work if women are dating men in their social circle prior such as guys from work, school, hobbies, etc. Although certainly have to imagine that pick-up artist types have some success despite women online saying how much they hate it and how it's sexist Women wouldn't have bad experiences if they actually did only get with men who treated them respectfully because i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 10:41 PM
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I feel like idk if women face less judgment, but the judgment against women is usually by guys who get called incels and other bad stuff, so there's more of a defense against it when people complain about how women act in dating vs men the first thing is to insult them as not getting pussy and how they hate women for their concerns. Women on the other end are more likely to defend each other. Tbf, a lot of the hate women get, I think, is more in their DMs tho but that also means we can't prove d…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 10:28 PM
0

I feel like telling someone what to wear or not to wear if they want to be in a relationship with you is the definition of control. You're attempting to influence their actions so that they don't wear clothes you're not cool with them wearing. But I do think misogynistic is a step too far. Wanting your wife to not show off her ass and tits in public by dressing proactively doesn't really mean you hate women, and I feel like it's honestly overused to call men misogynists for having reasonable con…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 10:23 PM
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I can only imagine how rough being a homosexual is because if 99% of women don't wanna fuck other women then you're definitely on some bad odds But I kinda just assumed the female gaze allows women to find other women attractive who like realistically these women aren't really attractive even to men
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 12:42 AM
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The fact that you can't think your way out of it is almost the most brutal part Some of the world's smartest men end up forever alone
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 12:37 AM
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I feel like you can't choose what you're attracted to, so it's dumb to be angry about it But like 99% of men wanna fuck hot chicks so when only 30% actually live that out then... And then there's like the stigma behind not having a girlfriend
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 10:50 PM
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Seen some polls today and it was like majority of men said its okay to approach a woman and then the women side while being significantly less was much more 50/50 if not in favor of not approaching because of the whole arguments about how men are dangerous to them
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 10:43 PM
2

Honestly fuck women The money will better my life without extra stress
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 09:41 PM
1

I swear some of these just describe the most normal guys I've ever known
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 09:37 PM
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Women viewing men who aren't 6 feet as submissive is brutal RIP 🪦
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 05:10 PM
2

Honestly kinda makes me realize any cosmetic surgery isn't worth because it doesn't fix personality but it's definitely an interesting question on what to do about that because even if we all get abs and stuff it's not like we got the game to go along with it nor is it exactly something that can just be developed
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 09:51 PM
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I find it funny how saying not all men is bad but women will call out women who validate black pill or red pill as not the norm
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 09:45 PM
2

Honestly might as well if no one is committed and women like the same guy they can share him but it just sucks for the rest of us when women do share the top 10% of men and then there's like a half of men who could've had a healthy marriage and stuff but now don't
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 09:42 PM
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Ever heard of the dating app RAW?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 06:56 PM
1

If a guy isn't white, he isn't right (with the ladies) /s
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 03:40 PM
1

Some of the crazy shit that you know hot guys get to experience, like how women will eat Chad's dirty ass which is actually disgusting, is literally just suifuel And then, on the other end, some men will degrade themselves just for sex with bottom tier women
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 03:39 PM
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I'd agree with this on both sides We all know what men and women want from each other But it's not something you should lead with too early because then they already got what they wanted before you did and can just leave you hanging
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 03:20 PM
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Still got sex so definitely not an insult if women don't do anything to advocate for their own pleasure and even worse actively work against it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 11:31 PM
1

Only way I'd get married is if the woman did a role reversal and brought it up first
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 11:30 PM
1

I feel like there needs to be something to have a chance with women... Looks, experience, good social skills, anything, so without those things, it's difficult if not almost impossible
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/23 07:27 PM
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I'm not so sure actively being a piece of shit will get girls Think it just so happens a lot of pieces of shit are able to get girls I mean... they use their charm, intellect, power, etc. To do the things that I don't think for an ugly guy would be a turn on but the men are already appealing and their actions make them more appealing because women think they can be the ones to change these monsters into respectable men or they have some real personal issues/have had terrible experiences as kids …
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/23 03:14 AM
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Seems weird and I don't have the confidence or charm to even pull that off if I wanted to (which I don't because it seems wrong to do the exact stuff women complain about to get with them)
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/23 03:08 AM
1

I mean... I think that's pretty reasonable but won't matter when the police arrive too late
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/23 01:57 AM
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Idk who would think they are I mean... if feminism is anything to go by, then women are strong and independent They don't need no man to protect them, and any man who does protect them is only a risk of being a future threat
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/23 01:56 AM
1

Guess women should fuck feminine men
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/23 01:47 AM
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I feel like anyone who is interested in OF girls is automatically screwing themselves over If I liked a girl and it was obtainable I'd talk to her without going through her OF since women don't consider men who give them money to be sexually viable or if it's not going to happen then no point in wasting money when I may never meet the girl and she probably has a secret man or even multiple men on the side
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/23 01:46 AM
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OF feels more personal and I assume the men who support it either just think the girl is an awesome person (maybe she likes anime) or they think they could collaborate on some content or might do a fuck a fan or whatever Tbh idk what goes through their heads I agree that Onlyfans is a stupid platform tho and I'm not sure it should be supported
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/23 01:44 AM
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A present father is better than being a single mom but I think a lot of people use examples of bad fathers and really minimize a man's contribution so in that sense they can kinda justify it more for themselves because if the man despite physically being there isn't a good father then the thought process is might as well not have him there
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 10:16 PM
1

I don't drink tap water but I'm almost convinced it's the opposite to where maybe drinking tap water is better as long as you don't live in a fucked up city where that shit comes out black or whatever
/r/AllPillDebate20/09/23 03:36 PM
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I feel like people definitely need to be more aware before marriage I mean... I understand some things can hide but for other things it's like you know if a man is disorganized or can be too straightforward or whatever other flaws women complain about in their husbands even despite 20+ years of marriage so if you go through with it I take it you've accepted these things and they shouldn't be made into a big deal Worst thing to me tho is doing that stuff in front of the kids. Kids don't deserve t…
/r/AllPillDebate20/09/23 03:33 PM
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I think helping would be the polite thing to do, ask if they're okay, etc. Although realistically, if they seem fine and go on about their day, then probably not a big deal. Isn't everyone's responsibility to take care of other grown folks. I almost would find it more embarrassing if someone called attention to you falling However while no one is entitled to help I don't think it'd be in good faith to just bypass someone if they broke their leg or something and you can't just expect that someone…
/r/AllPillDebate20/09/23 03:31 PM
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Honestly, I think everyone should touch grass but I think there's still some honest stuff to gather from pills and everything, so I don't think touching grass, not leading to the expected response, denies that some men would rightfully be afraid or pissed off Like it's not like it has never happened that we see women out men as creeps for no reason or that ugly people don't get bullied but as an adult it's less likely and people will probably be more polite then the whole assumed thing of you're…
/r/AllPillDebate20/09/23 02:40 AM
1

I feel like it's probably overstated and far from as common as anyone makes it out to be But 100% it does happen and it's stupid because if women know how dangerous men can be they should know better than to play with anyone's feelings or use anyone like that even if the men are still responsible for controlling themselves and the women don't owe men anything but don't accept dinner or drinks from unattractive men if you're a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 02:30 AM
1

Would make sense to me The men are the real demographic where as women are the ones less likely to use OLD, but you need them, so give them some free premium so that they can do better
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 01:51 AM
1

Would you date a man shorter than yourself, tho? Seems like that's at least minimum common usage for a height filter even if you're not going 6ft or bust
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 01:49 AM
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If I couldn't get a virgin woman, I'd just go for one that isn't It's better than just not having sex because your standards are in the way
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 08:41 PM
7

Yeah... I'm an incel but even I can realize how psychotic that is to want to hurt others who don't even know you or even worse if it's people who are nice to you but you're just mad because your women friends won't suck your dick
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 04:43 PM
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Too real tbh Sometimes, I think there can be more nuance to it as people will argue exceptions But generally, it's not like anyone was born into not liking women, and it doesn't help when the advice given is wrong
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 04:34 PM
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think that's an interesting question Feel like atm if people are taking the advice that caters to the red flag girls and it isn't working then that probably says what needs to be said. Hot girls wanna fuck hot guys. Although drunk party girls they might give it up faster because hooking up isn't as abnormal compared to the christain library girl who wants a relationship first However, since people talk about how looks don't matter because they see not so great looking guys who are married I gues…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 04:36 AM
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I'm kinda thinking everyone can see through the whole fake everyone is beautiful stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 04:23 AM
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I think women like guys who work out and do manual labor But not in like a way that gets involved with some of the parts of the culture that can be misogynistic or like healthy competition amongst men but not like wanting to dominate over other men and make them out to be lesser
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 10:19 PM
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I just have a hard time believing that an attractive young man would be loyal or that a loyal young man would be the highest quality, but if you can get it all, then great There are plenty of single young men, so can't be that hard
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 07:44 PM
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Easily, women get more help when they're down because other women are more likely to help them as well as men will help women they're attracted to When it comes to feminists I think they're probably right on the whole thing where men don't really give a shit about eachother and since women don't give a shit about low tier men either you kinda just get screwed over from everyone when you're down because nobody is coming to save you as a man and that's just life. Although somehow feminists will al…
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 07:13 PM
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Feel like this is fair I think as long as the woman is sexually attracted to you that the things which build that emotional connection can be more important Although at least hot guys probably have an easier time building up their social skills and can try multiple women to find the most compatible personalities since even if one girl doesn't find you funny doesn't mean others won't Compared to ugly guy who is just blocked out completely to begin with and has no chance to improve conversationall…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 06:55 PM
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I kinda agree, but I'm still in the hoping it works category I mean... with what redpillers say about women kinda makes it hard to really have that happy healthy marriage if she's only with you because you're able to provide for her needs, because of your status, etc. So once that's gone, your marriage is dead. Doesn't mean it wouldn't be nice tho to have that lifestyle and the redpill method can hopefully improve attraction from women if you know how to work it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 06:50 PM
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I'd say that there are some icks just relating to septum piercings, colored hair, tattoos, etc. But less in a universal sense and more just specific women who I wouldn't like these attributes on
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 05:30 PM
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Feel like if marriage isn't forever, then just don't do it, and not being married won't stop you from doing all the other stuff just out of wedlock
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 05:27 PM
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Probably gonna get spammed with dick pics and then pumped and dumped, but I feel like these are pretty preventable things
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 05:20 PM
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Not the ones who are most attractive to women tho, or so I've heard
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 05:08 PM
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Feeling like celebrity divorce season atm
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 04:57 PM
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Any woman who isn't successful in dating just doesn't want to be, which is why she isn't
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 02:52 PM
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People are so anti incel that they can't accept that to some extent there's truth to it I mean... I get why people are anti incel Just don't pretend like there aren't valid things that'd hold someone back and isn't their fault
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/23 09:05 PM
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I don't doubt legitimate exceptions but these things usually are less than the amount of people who have the problem that they can't control and I'm convinced a lot of people with exceptions will still date closer to the norm
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/23 08:57 PM
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Way to screw over your kids tbh Hot parents with ugly babies and the kids just never know, but they know something is off and can feel it
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/23 04:04 AM
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Honestly I wasn't even aware bad mouth posture was a thing before I heard of mewing
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/23 04:02 AM
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Being anti blackpill kinda annoys me, but before becoming blackpill, I definitely think one should follow the advice for a good while and also don't lose sight of your health when you fail
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/23 04:01 AM
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It seems like none of this stuff ever exists in a vacuum despite any people who pretend it does (usually blue pill except for also kinda not because I think they agree in less extremes) I think confidence can matter, numbers game, etc. But it's within some limits and assumes at least some bare minimum standard, and it's not always a choice of if you can even be there or not
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/23 03:59 AM
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Honestly I kinda get it (if you view sex as only being for procreation) but also that's almost worse because I feel like anal is the sex that it's like I'd think thatd be the one you do less commonly with just anyone compared to PiV which is easy and common
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/23 03:53 AM
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I'm not sure what should be gotten out of this Guess if more men had sex it's not the end because men don't have to go without sex for a year except for that 20% of sub 5 guys Although I don't think men casually hook up more than women would be new stuff either despite assumptions made due to women being more allowed to be openly promiscuous
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/23 03:52 AM
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Honestly, if such a thing genuinely and accurately could exist, I wouldn't even be mad Like the uncertainty is something I find worse Then, if I just knew what women I could reasonably get despite how disappointing their looks might be.
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/23 03:46 AM
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Yeah... too much detail would ruin something I might otherwise not care about/be okay with
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 03:39 AM
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This is always what I think about It's like I get social skills are of high importance However, I don't think it's like everyone started out life locked in their rooms and never left even once. They had to have gone out before, but because of being ugly, neurodiverse, etc. They got shit on and bullied and stuff which hurt their abilities to interact positively socially so without any positive interactions you kinda end up as an adult without the normal social skills which will again only make th…
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 03:25 AM
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I'd say culture because there's stereotypes about how Indian guys are so hateful of women, and so women don't like that Although reality is the other stuff matters way more like height, light skin, etc.
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 03:18 AM
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Don't see any reason to be against it
/r/AllPillDebate12/09/23 09:03 PM
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Equality in everything is totally valid Shouldn't force traditional dating culture in a non traditional society
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 08:57 PM
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I don't think babies being born gives a fuck about what happens to them after and we still need to produce men for labor purposes even if said men never reproduce
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 01:56 AM
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I mean... I'm sure a virgin women would value for a virgin man but I've never met one before and kinda think compared to the amount of males who are virgins that the number of virgin women might as well be half
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 01:32 AM
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I'm sure to some extent it's like being in a relationship hasn't made you soft or rusty and you can still get other girls anytime you want which would be something that I don't see how that couldn't make someone confident although I think realistically if you cheat you should feel like shit
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 10:00 PM
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Feel like it'd be cool to learn but I don't really want brain damage or otherwise its probably impractical for anything other than health of there is no risk
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 09:55 PM
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I'd assume people take their own advice but if not then they'd seen first hand how not following it can be bad, although I guess I say true
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 09:54 PM
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I mean... I've definitely seen guys when someone said you should just lose it if you're past 25 say they aren't really into casual stuff despite having had the opportunity
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 09:51 PM
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I'm of the opinion experience shouldn't matter
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 09:50 PM
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I feel weird about this opinion because I'm kinda like I don't think it should be an issue if a woman needs some extra stuff to cum but I guess I can understand how that's a problem in the same sense that a man who watches lots of porn and uses the death grip and therefore has trouble being made to cum by the woman that he'd be less attractive to her
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 09:49 PM
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Out of these I guess LL is most important for myself
/r/AllPillDebate11/09/23 05:41 PM
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Dbdr?
/r/AllPillDebate11/09/23 05:40 PM
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I wish I had zero sexual attraction to women but I don't think such a thing is even possible so I'm just stuck with these feelings I don't even want
/r/AllPillDebate11/09/23 05:37 PM
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I like those odds better then I mean... I'm not exactly a big marriage person anyways but if I were going to get married and have kids (not sure I want kids out of wedlock) then I'd deal with a 30% failure chance and it's fine Can't imagine it gets any better than that because some things just don't work out, and it's normal, but at least it's a decent majority to say 70% success
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 03:41 PM
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Why do women seriously dislike men with beards?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 03:36 PM
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Honestly... I'd take it I mean... really isn't even something that needs to be sexual Just want to even like be friends with a girl, but idk how. And tbf the just friends with one woman might lead to more. Maybe not with her, but she can help you meet other women who are sexually attracted to yourself. Or, like, I don't mind something casual but with someone I genuinely also care about as a human being
/r/AllPillDebate11/09/23 02:53 PM
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I support MGTOW and stuff but the weirdos definitely need to like go the fuck away Idk how some men would think such things are even okay I mean... have whatever feelings about women and society but don't act like an animal about it thinking you can just commit violations of women
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:41 PM
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Especially when it's used ironically or in a misleading way on both sides, I'd support just avoiding it Because people don't actually mean nice or it is used without nuance
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:37 PM
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Honestly, probably The daddy issues being more so lack of a father in the first place because even if he was there, he never taught them how to be a man, play sports, etc. The general things a father should do like teach his son, like how to impress the ladies
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:35 PM
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You tell us lol Although I assume they meant harm and it's just a misspelling
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:31 PM
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US dating is a mistake
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:28 PM
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I'm not surprised most people can make it work, but I still think we're playing with coinflip odds on a 60/40
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:26 PM
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If it really is just something casual, I'm not one to judge a woman's manner of dress Otherwise, I think it's more likely for situations to occur where the man is the one dressed down in a t shirt and jeans while the woman isn't dressed as casually
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:22 PM
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I don't think such women would take kindly to their appearance being critiqued Especially by men who have trouble dating, which is the only men who'd do that
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:18 PM
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I'd get why people would have their opinions but kinda think it'd need to be more normalized than offensive if anything if we're not going to solve the issues that lead to women feeling unsafe in public with men
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:15 PM
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Honestly, in the sense of being attracted to something you might never have, I definitely do wish I wasn't, but I doubt it'd make things actually better
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:13 PM
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Yeah, more like less value, really Rather than special value, it's anti value Not that those who praise feminine virginity are exactly normies contributing to the low male virginal value, but if women truly didn't care about a man being a virgin and did so honestly they certainly aren't making it aware compared to those who will make it aware how important good experienced quality dick is
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:12 PM
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I doubt, but maybe it's true since it's not like negative stereotypes of virgin men came out of a vacuum Maybe if they were cool people, it doesn't matter But I'm doubting that is the full story because I think the ones who aren't cool to be around aren't the norm for male virgins
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:07 PM
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A lot more reasonable for those under 25 than over 25 Although maybe that's even better because it truly means it matters more compared to those who lose it too young
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:03 PM
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Christianity although even then most of them bend the rules and generally aren't as extreme as something like Islam
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:02 PM
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Inevitably, the answer is just men being men. Other men promote sleeping around as good while saying it's bad when women do it, so men are discouraged from being virgins due to weird social control tactics. Although biologically since men aren't the ones weighed down by pregnancy and can then impregnate multiple at a time it makes sense some people got the weird idea that the goal of men should be to spread their semen far and wide. I don't think we can just pretend women wanting pure men isn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:00 PM
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I feel that Too much feelings, idk how to handle the emotional load that comes with traumatized women
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 01:54 PM
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Yeah... thinking context matters a ton on this one and really any of these situations so while we can answer in hypothetical I don't think I'd break up with a woman I was dating if later on she revealed she had a dead kid
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 01:53 PM
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What if the father died and that's why she's a single mom, is it still bad judgement?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 01:51 PM
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Honestly, I'd personally say I'm child free until it happens, so similar reasons I mean... I don't really want kids, but the methods of not having one aren't always 100% effective, and while I'm pro abortion I wouldn't want my kid aborted
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 01:50 PM
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I guess technically correct... I mean... I think a lot of lonely people are going to gravitate towards social media stuff that might seem weird to everyone else Otherwise, they'd just be hanging out irl with friends/family and not complaining about how lonely they are on the internet to people who don't really care
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 01:42 AM
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I feel like maybe for whatever reasons it's not as normalized for women to go see escorts And then since people complain about how horny dudes just want sex then you'll see less promotion of that virgin women should just have a ONS as the dude would be weird about it although I guess as long as you don't tell it'd probably be easy to get away with
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 01:39 AM
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I don't think they could have a ONS otherwise they would've already before turning 25 and losing your virginity to a woman you barely know she'd probably be creeper out by that or if you try to just not tell her it wouldn't be hard to figure out Although if seeing an escort is legal then I don't think it should be discouraged just to kinda get the whole sex thing over with even if it costs money which tbf dates and shit costs some cash too, so...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 01:36 AM
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If you didn't know about the dick it's not gay Just means some trans women pass very well
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 10:31 PM
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A man's reputation is his everything
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 10:30 PM
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I think they just are saying to be respectful as a way to keep the unattractive guys down and also like maybe they're abuse victims so they learn better but it's after their value tanks
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 10:30 PM
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Unearned confidence is arrogance so I'm not surprised a confident unattractive man is not attractive for being confident when they should know their place
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 10:26 PM
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I feel like I know pretty damn well I'm a 3 at best but I can see how a lot of men have that ego that makes them rate themselves better even if women disagree and have different standards than men on men's looks
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 10:23 PM
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I think it's probably fair to say that a lot of the men struggling are just less competitively viable and that's the main reason why they struggle although I don't think a lot of the advancements in society over the past like 100+ years have exactly helped men be more competitively viable for dating either So if women were less educated, the economy was better, no dating apps, etc. Then men, on average, benefit from that
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 10:19 PM
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Not that such a thing never comes up because it does all the time but I still think attraction is less varied than people make it seem
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 10:10 PM
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I feel like bisexual women or even like maybe just LGBTQ women in general do seem to be less strict on certain masculine requirements compared to straight women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 10:08 PM
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Brutal mismatch Although, yeah. I'd say I'd agree that if a woman was 2-3in short than myself, that'd probably be my ideal
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 10:04 PM
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8 inches taller? Damn... I thought it was like 4-6
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 10:00 PM
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Kinda sounds like socially limiting yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 09:59 PM
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At least dating same height tho If only that logic trickled down Seen 5'7" girls with a bit over 5'7" bfs Although never seen a 5'4" girl like <5'5" guys
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 09:58 PM
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I'm not convinced my mom was actually sexually attracted to my dad although maybe just had a thing for black men despite being white even tho I'm not sure he was exactly packing downstairs either so ruins that stereotype
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 09:56 PM
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Kinda lines up with OLD at least even if realistically most people get settled down at some point
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 09:53 PM
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I mean... I dont dislike Latinas anyways so I'd consider dating a hispanic, and there's no shortage of Hispanics for those living in the south for anyone looking to take that step Although I would've figured Hispanic women aren't exactly likely to date outside their own race, which is a barrier I'd expect, although maybe it's not even true
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 09:52 PM
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You'd think it wouldn't be a problem, but it's never just about finding women who are shorter There needs to be a certain gap in height and so for short men it's like your best bet is to find women who aren't just shorter than yourself but who are like 5ft or under at which point I'm sure some 4'11" woman would still prefer a man who's taller Being a 5'6" man who targets 4'10" girls doesn't work if they also want a 5'8" man tho and it'd only get worse the less short women are unless you find the…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 09:49 PM
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It's over for me personally
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 09:42 PM
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Doubtful
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 09:36 PM
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I assume it's not resentment but empathy if the assumption is guys who only want a virgin wife are abusive and you don't need to want to fuck them to know that they're going to be bad in bed and expect their wife to not have much of a life outside of them as far as these men are viewed by experienced women Although if experience women don't want them and they get told lower their standards and stuff then how else are they supposed to go about dating if not with women who are willing to put up wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 09:34 PM
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I'm going to assume if they could, then inexperienced guys would have less of a problem with looking like creeps when they aren't
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 09:29 PM
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I'm going to assume the women who justify drug abuse or who will date criminals are the same types who are also more likely to justify regular abuse since they probably aren't the most mentally healthy themselves which is why they can justify that. Also would assume then that these same women wouldn't complain as much because a man playing videogames isn't worse than her past boyfriends but maybe they view it as less masculine so that's a turn off compared to guys who get into fights and abuse s…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 09:27 PM
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Tbh I do feel like when you look up things like thick or chubby women that my expectations would be women who are maybe overweight at best, and I mean... I wouldn't even complain about those women as far as wanting a partner of a healthy weight even if their weight isn't healthy Actually tho the results I've seen are obese if not morbidly obese full on BBW type shit tho and I'm just like I don't mind women with excess fat but these are the highest level of disgusting body types somehow being mad…
/r/AllPillDebate09/09/23 02:45 PM
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If the women are genuinely fine with an inexperienced guy and it's like not a big deal, then I wouldn't complain because having a good partner is more important than them being a virgin or whatever However, I feel like a lot of the times the assumption is they've had better before and after that they're settling for you as these are men never have had female attention before otherwise they would've dated in their 20s and before that during high-school as well
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 12:33 AM
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Wouldn't say it personally would bother me or make me jealous Although the people saying it's advertising probably are onto something I mean... like it isn't right, but there's that whole thing about blaming women for getting raped and so under that knowledge I wouldn't think you'd want your girlfriend to stand out if it risks her safety as well as just other guys will hit on her more than modestly dressed women in your mind even tho realistically how a woman dresses probably isn't actually chan…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 12:15 AM
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I mean... they're hot celebrity women, so when you're also a rich/famous dude, you're going to date women in your own bracket even if they're more likely to sleep around Which at least they get to do it, too Compared to normal men who wife up women who've been "ran through" because they didn't get to fuck around nearly as much most likely
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 11:58 PM
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I think the people who believe woman initiated relationships are bad are being conservative and so for women to approach men they're stepping outside their feminine role and maybe they assume if they have to ability to approach that they can then better approach other men to cheat on you with vs a woman who only is interested in men who approach her first Although since women rarely do approach, I'd think that'd mean she'd like you even more than usual, which is probably the best outcome
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 08:01 PM
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Women over 30 are still attractive, and with the economy being where it is, I don't want to have to be responsible for 100% of anything that is bought
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 07:48 PM
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I guess those women who want a rich man better get rich themselves (which may or may not negate the need for a rich husband)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 07:41 PM
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I don't think this is surprising for Hollywood celebs or really anyone in a certain kind of scene Like when you're young, have money, etc. Then people like to party and it's a normalized thing
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/23 02:56 PM
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Wouldn't even surprise me I think the lack of a father figure makes some of these men probably more sympathetic to that kind of thing because they reasonably know first hand hoe it screws over your life to not have a dad And if they would step up in that situation then I say good on them but no man is obligated to care for a kid who isn't his (aside from whatever the legal precedent is because your ex wife's bastard might still mean you get stuck with child support)
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/23 02:11 PM
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I feel bad for the kids in these situations, and I imagine the people on Reddit who hate fathers do too The difference is that I don't blame any man for leaving a cheating wife and not wanting to be involved with the cheat baby Women need to take responsibility for themselves. If you cheat and get outed and it ruins your life, that's on you. And I can imagine it'd be a lot for a kid if your daddy of 5 years left but on the mom to explain that one later on, and so yeah... idk. Just hope they won'…
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/23 02:04 PM
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I wouldn't mind getting "accurate face rating" but I also feel like anyone offering would just be toxic
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/23 01:45 PM
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I refuse sex with any woman older than my mom
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/23 04:20 AM
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I'm pretty sure this has something to do with it no longer benefitting women last time I saw the topic brought up but either way it's for the better I'm thinking
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/23 02:00 AM
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Honestly should call them out on it but they still probably wouldn't get it or would ignore and deflect
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/23 01:57 AM
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Probably know advertising their partner would get them less of that good Ole attention
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 12:22 AM
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Very true Hard to be confident in skills you never worked on
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 12:06 AM
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... I think they meant pedophilia... 😬
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 11:49 PM
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Shouldn't that tell you being experienced doesn't actually matter, tho Feel like they're going to be more stuck in their ways if they are
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 11:47 PM
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Inevitably, the rich get richer And if you're not, then you don't have much of a way in
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 11:44 PM
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Feminists told men, "You're free." But no one ever gave men any help on what the next steps are, lmao I mean... I don't think men are obsolete if some of the most important careers are male dominated, but our existence is just as regular people since it isn't worth it to be the male figure who protects/provides anymore
/r/AllPillDebate07/09/23 11:35 PM
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I feel like if you're over 6 feet, then an average face and not being fat is really all it takes
/r/AllPillDebate07/09/23 11:20 PM
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Too bad it takes longer to lose the pounds than to gain them
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 03:37 PM
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I don't think that it's really love if they didn't still truly and honestly love their wife the same, if not maybe even a little bit more, after she had their child
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 03:29 PM
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People say misogyny, but I actually think there's a tiny bit of misandry in there that people think men can't be good fathers. That they're being praised for "stepping up." It's like they just don't believe a man can take good care of their own kids and be involved. Idk, but it seems a bit sexist on both ends, not exclusively towards women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 03:10 PM
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For the women complaining men don't approach, they should give it a try Otherwise, I don't think anything would be better by women approaching more
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 03:04 PM
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Looks like 19 guys have had success
/r/AllPillDebate06/09/23 04:45 AM
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I say just make it legal because I don't see how it'd really have downsides, but for sexless men, there are tons of upsides if you have enough money and then the women get money legally too so win/win
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 09:30 PM
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I'd feel bad for the kids because it's not their fault and so we can't just let them starve, be homeless, etc. However there are definitely a lot of steps that happen before a woman and a man have sex and he gets her pregnant and her giving birth that is kinda like to some extent you should've known what's up Learn to practice safer sex, don't have sex so soon, if you do get pregnant it'd be nice if there was some way to deal with it knowing the father won't be in your/the kids life, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 09:27 PM
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My will to live is a bit low, but I think life as ugly is situational because as truly ugly no, but as more so below average, maybe it's a bit better, and you can still live well
/r/AllPillDebate04/09/23 11:22 PM
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I imagine this is where knowing your audience matters You're more likely to find someone being edgy to be funny even if it's not if you're a teenage boy and someone yells racial slurs or something, then it's funnier as a young man who thinks racism is cool lmao In that same sense, I imagine women might be more likely to enjoy female comedians, but as a man, it doesn't work for me to watch Amy Schumer
/r/AllPillDebate04/09/23 11:07 PM
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I don't think women aren't funny I think it's just that the women who get the most attention aren't relatable Like if your humor as a woman is feminist approved jokes then it's kinda just like "isn't it so funny how being a woman is hard because you have this shitty things that are your period and how men are annoying tee hee" I mean... I just wouldn't really be into those kinds of jokes and almost would find them off-putting However, I don't think women can't ever be funny as much as just by be…
/r/AllPillDebate04/09/23 11:04 PM
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See him everywhere, and I don't get it it seems like he's someone who really likes to shit on incels but at the same time, I doubt he's exactly sexually successful himself which seems ironic when it comes to people who will go out of their way to attack others for hating women when women don't like them either, so how serious should we even take that (Like if what our major problem is for the men who aren't considered sexally successful is our personality, then how are blue pillers also failing?…
/r/AllPillDebate04/09/23 10:44 PM
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Meant it more as in assuming usage of steroids is as a performance enhancer, so that you can be bigger than you'd get naturally or do it faster. However, some people think too much muscle turns women off Although I'm sure anyone who does get bulky and find women prefer men who are more lean weren't having much success in their lean phase either. Assuming they weren't fat guys who started lifting, and then maybe that'd make things worse But I'm not exactly convinced too much muscles would discoun…
/r/AllPillDebate04/09/23 10:40 PM
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I imagine at one point they are or they wouldn't do it, but not everything is maintained all throughout your life or like you can be ashamed of something but not be as you get older At some point it doesn't matter because it's just dumb fun then it does when you get older and regret not settling down sooner and then you accept it because even if you aren't proud it's not worth beating yourself up over your past sexuality or at least I imagine the cycle goes something like that At the point when …
/r/AllPillDebate04/09/23 10:13 PM
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Seen people say steroids hurts chances although still think a tall guy on them would automatically be doing better than a short guy without at some point depending on how extreme of differences you go
/r/AllPillDebate04/09/23 10:07 PM
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Anyone who leads a superhero film is probably likely to be a Chad in some sense Don't exactly end up an action star being too far off from Chad I say Alan Ritchson tho
/r/AllPillDebate04/09/23 10:05 PM
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I'd agree, but the problem is she doesn't have to be your gf to have fun As long as it isn't anything sexual then as a gay man or asexual you could have your girlfriend as a friend, and it'd be the same amount of fun except for less responsibility. And even sexually there are other means, although I'm sure it being with someone who genuinely cares about you does make things a lot better I mean... I'm not against appreciating the little things but seems like most of a man's needs from women aren'…
/r/AllPillDebate04/09/23 10:01 PM
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I mean... nothing you can't get out of a friend/roommate The only reason to have a wife/girlfriend is physical affection and to start a family Otherwise I can just have casual friends (male or female) that we spend time together and I'm self sufficient enough that I don't need a housewife lol but if you have the money I'm sure it'd be cheaper to just hire someone
/r/AllPillDebate04/09/23 09:50 PM
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I think people would 100% still do it or divorce if still legal could happen for a dozen other reasons Although it gives something to think about If monogamy was more enforced somehow and I'm not talking like sending people to jail for having sex then would hope to see some kinda of benefit compared to how things are now
/r/AllPillDebate04/09/23 09:44 PM
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Same lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 07:15 PM
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Idk how autism works but think autism and shy are two very different things Although overlap does certainly exist Like with other things such as introversion, social anxiety, etc. Even if these things all are different
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 07:13 PM
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If I can't approach at a library or doing hobby stuff how am I supposed to find women who like graphic novels :(
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 07:11 PM
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I mean... it wouldn't help everyone, but everyone's problems aren't all the same I think for some people, it genuinely just is like if they had sex they'd be 100x happier For other people, it's not even about sex and they could go their whole life as virgin, but they don't even have friends or a stable career, so their life is shit I'm sure legalizing sexwork would help someone tho even if it alone isn't a full proof solution as we also need better treatment of mental health and other issues tha…
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 06:15 PM
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Yeah, that's pretty much it although something else I'm seeing people bring up is bullying, and so if the government can do something so that schools better enforce their policies on that, then that'd be nice too. Because it feels like schools just kinda ignore bad student behavior even if you can only do so much and it is really damaging to experience that as a child which probably doesn't help in terms of leading people into inceldom. Maybe school is also just the best place to develop thicker…
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 06:10 PM
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The government assigned marriages and massive genocide thing was more meant as a joke because people take the most radical of incel forums and use that as what they think an incel is. People in feminist communities and anti incel groups will look at blackpillers and talk about how they hate women and stuff but I did recognize how it's not exactly good for women if they did get forced into non consensual relationships and while not having men over 6ft as an option might mean the standards get low…
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 05:53 PM
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To some extent, I definitely support things like mandatory paternity tests and more strict enforcement on bullying since I don't think being cool with some of the insane things women can get away with and allowing mental damage done to our children are positives Legal sex work doesn't hurt either but traditional monogamy should be more encouraged
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 05:39 PM
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Certainly an option, although I can't imagine it's as enjoyable sexually and so if sexual assault is truly more about power as is commonly brought up, then while I can see how those who'd feel powerless would resort to it I don't think it's a great option for those who are just nice guys that got fucked in the genes department and are behind socially which is also where I'd say that encouraging women to go back to needing to be married doesn't help either because the women would just be happy an…
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 05:33 PM
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That's how I see it is more as a looks issue, mental health issue, some way to better assist those with disorders or disabilities that negatively impact them socially, etc. Although, if the worst-case scenario is that none of the more socially acceptable and reasonable answers work, then people shouldn't be forced to live out a shit life
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 05:29 PM
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It is not legal everywhere, which is my only issue but certainly should just make that happen so that young sexually struggling American men can have some relief Tbf there's the not legal options for sex work but not going to risk it either
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 05:07 PM
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I'd support this one. People should probably be given help first if they're feeling suicidal but at some point, not every problem has a solution, and it's better to die than suffer for the next however many decades potentially
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 05:02 PM
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Under the worst interpretation of this, I imagine legalized rape or state sponsored girlfriends is a thing. It's not my personal opinion as I'd be against it, but it's out there as far as how normies view incels. idk how you really handle pairing, but maybe you give the ugliest guys the best-looking girls so that their future kids are less likely to be incels if they reproduce. Kill all the Chads. In the end, it doesn't matter what you do tho because all the women who exist in that hypothetical …
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 04:55 PM
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If the woman is already notably taller and then throws on some large heels, that straight-up just feels like taunting at some point, lol But short women on rare occasions will say that when they date a 6ft+ guy it's harder to kiss or more awkward to hug so just would personally prefer that my tall girlfriend doesn't increase the difficulty on me lol But I don't mind taller women in general or ideally I'd get with a woman of similar height and then I don't mind if she wears heels and becomes sign…
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/23 02:15 PM
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Tbf I don't think "settle down" is the be all end all I mean... I know personally I want that one day but when people talk about Chad or how abusive men can happily get pussy it's like you don't need to have a 50 year long successful marriage as much as they just need to hide their insanity enough to get 15 minutes of fun for the night Although certainly would hope women in their right mind are sane enough not to give douches a chance as soon as they pick up on it because they should only be wit…
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/23 02:05 PM
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All about that feminism in the streets and "supporting the patriarchy" in the sheets
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/23 01:53 PM
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Someone who is more family oriented and without the requirement of blood relation sounds like it should be better and obviously that's what most people think Although deadbeat dads who get women pregnant and then leave the kids and their moms single and alone obviously have no trouble getting around, so... I mean... this is just one factor so it doesn't mean everything when taken out of context
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 11:09 PM
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It's not even the pale skin but the white hair that scares me lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 10:41 PM
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Dislike septum piercings and would say hair, style, etc. Probably matters a ton but I'm also not going 100% niche into only fucking goth girls or something either so it's not the biggest deal in that sense
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 10:39 PM
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Ideally wouldn't waste time or lie but think we all know realistically people prefer a more soft approach to rejection
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 10:14 PM
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What specifically is a false idea of what women like?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 02:33 AM
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Honestly that one doesn't help Think a lot of single men would be a thousand times more happier if their moms would stop harassing them about grandkids
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 10:22 PM
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Tinder stats for one reason
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 10:19 PM
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I still find it hilarious how women will say they can tell if men are only thinking with their dick or to view women as people but still get used for sex or end up dating a misogynist
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 10:19 PM
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I need to stop but atm it's like a daily thing if not twice or so
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/23 09:17 PM
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23, which is kinda like everything was easier when younger, but also I'm still lacking in certain "adult experiences," which sucks
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/23 09:16 PM
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Not worth it and would probably make things worse
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/23 09:13 PM
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This is what I have an issue with Think it kinda makes sense tho to some extent with if men are stronger then they can hurt women more than women hurt men and so should be punished harder for physical violence or sexual crimes but I still can't support the fact that women do get less sentences and feminists aren't exactly going against things like that which benefit women as far as I've seen I'm all for equality, but some of those who preach it don't do so in good faith. If something benefits wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 07:19 PM
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Definitely think looks get you in the door but it's not like pretty people are exactly immune to being broken up with and I guess maybe personality plays a role in that unless the woman is moving up then probably still a looks issue
/r/AllPillDebate28/08/23 11:04 PM
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Friendzone
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 01:42 AM
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I feel like, to some extent, it might just be dedication where the woman stays after losing attraction, but doesn't mean she never was
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 01:36 AM
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Given that people are complex, I don't know that we can properly generalize in general even without the issue of not knowing what the opposite gender likes However, there are pretty clear trends from an outside point of view based on what women might commonly vocalize online. As well as we have what research and statistics about dating exist. Even if we can say for example that height doesn't matter if on average men and women who are married had a 5+ inch height gap with the man being taller (a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 07:21 PM
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Worst part is that women are more likely to fake attraction for free drinks knowing how bad of an idea that is than they are to be legitimately interested
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 07:08 PM
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Given how men will tell women the same I won't disagree because I think everyone should choose better but then it's like if you can't tell women to choose better and it be politically correct then I have to question a bit how men are also supposed to know better in terms of vetting their partner
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 05:17 PM
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I feel like it's poorly expressed because your girlfriend/wife shouldn't be viewed as lesser, and they, as your partner, should have the maturity to understand what that means. Treating them like a child kinda would shift the dynamic less from healthy mutual adult relationship into some kind of weird predatory kink However I do think that if you feel safe being with someone and comfortable that you probably would be more likely to express your inner child or however that is best put since you'd …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 05:10 PM
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Let's be honest. I can agree that obsession with casual sex doesn't help, but a lot of the lonely men were like that before being sex focused, and society is pretty sex focused. Also kinda think they're connected because I'm sure the guys who are having casual sex could have a better time finding something real when the time comes that they want to. The biggest problem I can see is the beta bux stuff as people might think not having sex with a woman on the first date means she doesn't like you a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 04:59 PM
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I don't think there's anything more important than relationships and family because everybody wants somebody, or even if you're not sexual you still want good friends who are invested and that you want to invest in Otherwise I do have to think that personal success or helping others such as bettering your community could be more important but even then I'd want someone to share that success with or it's like why do I need more money when I can already support myself decently well so extra income…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 04:51 PM
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I'm not dumb enough to try and date a Stacy, nor do I want that stress However, I hardly believe it's a binary between model hot girls and bottom percentage girls. It should be reasonable that for those who don't drink/do drugs, they wouldn't want a partner who is or has been in that scene. Short men who are very physically in shape shouldn't be told to go date fat women as their looksmatch because there's a lifestyle incompatibility. Also, I think not wanting alt girls would be reasonable. I'd …
/r/AllPillDebate24/08/23 04:19 PM
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It's just about what's harder, or at least, that's how I take it I mean... we can argue all day about how lock and key metaphors are dumb or how its 2023 and so women deserve more freedom as we're no longer in the 1900s and whatever else and I might not even disagree because I'm not anti women's rights and it's hardly anyone's job to police everyone else. However it is more difficult for a man to fuck 100 women than for a woman to fuck 1000 men. Even an unattractive woman still is useful for her…
/r/AllPillDebate24/08/23 04:02 PM
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Tbh if women stopped wearing makeup, we'd all be better for it. I mean... even seen some women complain about having to, so please just show your natural face. Would save us all the trouble. Men would know what a real woman looks like, so for women, if they see high expectations as an issue, then by wearing makeup, they only play into it and the beauty industry. But then also the men know that without her makeup they wouldn't be as attracted to her which while benefitting the man from not wastin…
/r/AllPillDebate24/08/23 03:45 PM
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This is the attitude I take because 12 year olds aren't exactly fucking but if you've made it past high-school and college without sex you've wasted your best years
/r/AllPillDebate24/08/23 03:24 PM
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Honestly, even in my personal life, I feel like I know a lot more women who are doing better than the men I know
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 10:30 PM
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I don't really want kids myself even if I don't wish anything bad on children, so that's good for me If the issue is infertility tho then I think that might take more working out if she wants to adopt or whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 08:34 PM
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I feel like this is maybe part of the problem Like if most people's exposure is to women who are into beer pong and those are the ones who also like to hook up with the football team or whatever Compared to more introverted women who enjoy reading and the arts that you're less likely to be exposed to so it seems less common from an outside perspective So basically people follow advice about going to bars/clubs to meet people and then their experiences are shaped more by that scene whereas there …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 03:26 PM
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I feel like a big problem is honestly how uncommon that is these days. I mean... it's all too common that modern games don't even support local play
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 03:23 PM
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I've never heard of Deism, but I think that might be somewhat close to what I'd think. There could be what we call "god(s)" as something had to have caused the universe as we know it to be created However, religious people talk about having a relationship with God, praying for better, etc. And I don't really believe that some divine force is intervening in daily life. At the very least, it isn't just some common occurrence
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/23 05:54 AM
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So how does one "up their emotional intelligence"?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 03:12 AM
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I'd almost say the opposite. Not having a job would be worse However, for men who wanna marry young and have kids it's probably easier with a woman who isn't risking her career
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 03:08 AM
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Tbf, at least big women can lose the weight where as short men can't grow an extra foot Although the biggest issue with not lying is like everyone else is going to do it I mean... if the women lying about their size thing works and then guys actually like them in person cool but seems like a way to set yourself up for failure from the people who's time you waste (you'd be wasting your own too) and also those who otherwise would've accepted you but now feel weird about being misled a bit
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 03:04 AM
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I'm not sure Tinder is helping 90% of men
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 03:38 AM
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As long as they're the ones who own their own bodies, it's probably seen as more acceptable to them than a bunch of old men making the porn money from their footage Although certainly doesn't make the porn less damaging to others for what the issues of porn are
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 03:25 AM
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Could be younger than 23 tbh. Like by 21
/r/AllPillDebate18/08/23 02:42 AM
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I think this is between the partners I say no in all cases because part of having LTR for me is sexual exclusivity, but obviously, other people have their own opinions on sex as a whole Think it'd take communication depending on the situation because if a man is secure enough in himself that despite him not wanting sex he's selfless enough to allow his wife's needs to be met then good on him even tho that's kinda cucked
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 07:53 PM
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Just feel like a lot of things can make a woman a hoe Like when you say if she's had a train run on her or if a lot of guys know her, then these different things can be what makes a woman a hoe, but it kinda varies too Having an OnlyFans is for hoes but if it's just solo content I wouldn't judge that too harshly or even at all compared to if we're talking about a woman who currently does full on porn that's almost like immediate break up material I think most men if they could would have a lot o…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 07:48 PM
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If things are good, that's probably more important than moralizing the past as long as it's not like she's a former cheater or something
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 07:27 PM
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I feel like this would only make stigma against ugly men worse if we went around doing more violence. Although it certainly would be funny to take a tall, handsome man and beat his ass to prove to women that their feeling of security they get from him doesn't translate into reality. I mean... if women are just finding tall men more attractive them whatever, but I've seen a dozen times it said that short men don't make them feel protected and also how they lose attraction to men they see lose in …
/r/AllPillDebate17/08/23 06:57 PM
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I don't mind slight thickness but morbid obesity isn't attractive to many people and it probably shows a difference in lifestyle if you eat right and exercise while you're wife is eating cake on the couch all day
/r/AllPillDebate17/08/23 06:55 PM
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Young men, but definitely no problem finding older men with women
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 10:54 PM
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They say most women aren't on dating apps, so probably why people would think irl is better
/r/AllPillDebate16/08/23 10:46 PM
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Think women should be responsible for their own bodies as well as if they're not exclusive with anyone it's kinda like whatever Definitely sorta is like "FUCK!" tho because I can't say it wouldn't piss me off if you were to date a girl and after a few months you get condom sex while her FWB who she fucks on the side when you guys aren't going out gets to go in raw. People can justify it by saying it isn't cheating but shouldn't be getting dicked down while seeking out a committed relationship fo…
/r/AllPillDebate16/08/23 10:36 PM
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Don't see any downside The issue with women doesn't exist in a vacuum Guys who have trouble with women also probably do lack in male friendships as well, and it'd be nice to have that
/r/AllPillDebate16/08/23 10:26 PM
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Feminist in the streets, misogynist in the sheets lol
/r/AllPillDebate16/08/23 10:23 PM
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Honestly people will say it won't do shit but I'd at least like to live for a day as a Chad to discover for myself that no matter how perfect I am outward that my personality will always turn away women. At which point maybe the people complaining would take the steps to change that given their new knowledge even tho chances are the looks would still hold them back despite their new and improved personality I mean... it'd either deradicalize some people or it'd just make things 100x worse after …
/r/AllPillDebate16/08/23 10:22 PM
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I don't support victim blaming But it is 100% like when you see it being guys who are autistic virgins and generally aren't bad people being stereotyped as predators, it's pretty shitty And then somehow the real predators are actually just normies, handsome and tall, etc. These are the men who want to exert their power over women is men who don't even struggle to make friends and have no reason to dislike the opposite sex Also like no wonder rape is so common if it's a woman's best friend, husba…
/r/AllPillDebate16/08/23 10:19 PM
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When your main way of making women attracted to you is your pics and you're not attractive to women, then do think it makes sense to use other means, but it doesn't make things not shit either
/r/AllPillDebate16/08/23 10:09 PM
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The bad in bed thing seems like a stretch, or at least I wouldn't think they're worse than average Although it seems like university would be the most likely place to get raped compared to other locations so there's that as far as frat boys go
/r/AllPillDebate16/08/23 10:00 PM
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I'm just going to assume those men take it more seriously than most women do. Who knows why, but women just aren't as competitive Although do wonder if there is any legitimate sexism in such spaces. People will be all like, "Oh, the reason you don't see pro gamer girls if because gamers harrass women." Even tho at any events for these things, I'm sure that wouldn't be tolerated. Or the other thing is that in the cases of anime conventions and stuff, people say women don't show up because the pla…
/r/AllPillDebate16/08/23 09:56 PM
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Think reality is some mix of both Definitely been some women who willingly date men who didn't even hide how awful they were since the first date Then you have other cases where I don't doubt some men do make themselves look better in the beginning but then they can't keep it up and really don't have to later on because they go what they wanted In the cases where a man seemed legitimately sweet and then after being this chivalrous, kind, gift giving fella who lowered her defenses only for it to …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 09:25 PM
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The problem is that by then, the damage is done. After a few bad boyfriends, it's probably not easy to recover. Also, any men seeing that have now gotten the wrong idea because the bad boys approached first
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 09:10 PM
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That's never not going to be funny tbh The thing is, I get why it's the case for both. Like I understand that making yourself focus on strength and having to live up to certain ideals because your a man can be problematic. Men will be told it's ideal to sleep with many women, and in their pursuit of that, they'll lie, cheat, and hurt women. In some sense attempting to be masculine in a way that is a negative form of masculinity all about how many other men you can beat the shit out of to prove y…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 09:01 PM
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Don't disagree. Think men doing things they don't actually want to so that they can get a nut off obviously isn't healthy for us or for women. Ideally sexual needs wouldn't matter, and it'd be all about emotional fulfillment
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 08:38 PM
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If most women aren't dating Chad as the men who have negative views on women seem to claim, then I'm not sure it should go in reverse either We can't say that only hot women negatively affect how men view women as if most men aren't surrounded by average or below women daily It is not impossible for a small number of people to influence how a group is viewed, and it's not right either to invalidate someone's experience but for anyone who wants to take that route it can go both ways and the peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 08:20 PM
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Don't think it's a belief built on logic But do think men of status with power have better ways to get away with their crimes Compared to innocent men who can have their lives ruined if women are automatically taken at their word without evidence while the average man is seen as threatening I mean... I don't think false claims are all that common. The true rape claims not investigated and dealt with are a much bigger issue. It's just like it'd obviously be shitty tho if your attempt to solve a p…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 07:57 PM
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Tbh I kinda would side with the guy saying women hate good men who are weak. Is it misogynistic? Probably I just have a feeling that the women who are in the super vocal minority that possibly only represents 1% of women at most who are saying that they hate all men are working under the same logic as ACAB. If that's the case they probably do hate men who aren't bad guys but they aren't willing to step up either if they saw a woman was being attacked despite that the man stepping up would probab…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 07:47 PM
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Feel like this is where things get pretty complicated because maybe how much of a minority it is gets exaggerated. People can bring up some statistic about how only 5% of men do 100% of the rapes but then as a crime, it's underreported, so it could be double the amount or even triple compared to what the stats say Part of it might also be that if you think about it, the world has 8 billion people, so even among a minority of men, the terrible thing is that you'd still have way too many rapists I…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 07:28 PM
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Agreed that men don't have to take responsibility for the actions of other men. I doubt women are taking responsibility when other women do something bad, nor are they actively policing all women around them 24/7 People generalize about more minor stuff than rape or murdering women and its like I have no way of policing other men who send dick pics or lie about their height on apps as I wasn't there and no one is bragging to me about these things Although if we're aware of stuff I don't believe …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 07:06 PM
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"misbehaving men" don't give a shit what other men think of them. I feel like this is true but if they're actually committing a crime then you'd hope that even if the man doesn't care what other men think that having the support of other men who are aware of shitty things that man has done such as their friends/family going against them would hold more weight than just the woman alone saying she's a victim without proof so it isn't just a he said she said but then if that were the case it'd be b…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 06:42 PM
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Think there are other ways to handle it than direct intervention. You don't need to get stabbed to help rape victims Although bystander effect and stuff can certainly be an issue and honestly like idk how any woman could expect a random man would willingly get hurt saving her when people have self preservation instincts and don't wanna get murdered by a group of men harassing one woman. I mean... I'm sure she doesn't wanna get murdered either, and you're only thinking about your own safety at th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 06:37 PM
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Very true, which seems to be half the problem with things like rape Guys who coerce consent wouldn't see that as being non-consensual sex I mean... I imagine it's more complicated than that because what people think rape is and what it can actually be differ so you can say that it's fine since the girl didn't say no but obviously that doesn't change things if you're performing sex acts on someone who hasnt said they wanted it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 06:26 PM
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I imagine it works on anti police logic All cops are bad because if there were good cops they'd arrest the bad ones, and we'd all be safer for it. The problem is they probably wouldn't be cops for long because getting involved and going against your fellow officer when they do police brutality isn't making you any friends. So basically, it's where by doing nothing, you're complicit in it. Which in some cases is reasonable and in others not so much If you know your football buddies, son, or whoev…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 05:42 PM
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Never met anyone who said they do enjoy it so wonder why that one is
/r/AllPillDebate15/08/23 09:21 PM
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After school (can include college), it's basically over for relationships, so definitely someone should be giving these kids that advice
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 06:15 PM
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Women: "sexism is only bad when it doesn't benefit me"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 03:20 PM
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If I'm a lonely grumpy 40 year old man, I'll probably just end it, but luckily, I still have a couple of decades
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 03:05 PM
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Let's be honest. Once you get everything else down to the standards then previously promiscuous men are probably a lot of what's left because if they're what's attractive to women they probably have been able to be with a lot of women. Don't think most high value men are choosing to limit their sex or at least they might not but probably didn't when they were younger
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 03:04 PM
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And in the end there is no right answer Do nothing, and they'll think you don't like them Do something, and you're icky because she didn't want that
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 02:08 PM
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Honestly, I 100% agree. I mean... I know most women irl aren't these radical kill all men feminist types you see online, and I actually genuinely do feel bad about the state of society, such as the way that no abortions negatively impact American women However that those posts and stuff do exist definitely have an ability to induce slight amounts of anger if not full on radicalize folks into hating the opposite sex
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 02:01 PM
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I wouldn't even disagree, but from my perspective, I still think it deserves more nuance I get why it's bad for men to view women as property and want to control a woman's body. It's not fair to say to another person that they can't have some fun if it's not hurting anyone just because their future spouse might disapprove However, I also think maybe dismissing why some men might have such insecurities isn't helping either. Women can have the same type of insecurity, and it's totally valid to not…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 01:53 PM
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I love anime/manga, but even this is a bit much for me Not sure that's how humiliation degradation kinks work if that's what they were going for Although I wouldn't use this as just average anime either
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 01:32 PM
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I don't think it's crazy to understand. I totally get the idea that if two people are attracted to eachother that'd be a more welcome interaction compared to some random guy who is unattractive going around and annoying women in places that might not even be appropriate for that I don't think you can have your cake and eat it too, tho If a man's attraction influences how welcoming women are to interact with him, then why do we deny and invalidate the experiences of those who aren't? People can s…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 01:29 PM
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It's funny how women's standards can fall apart Seen dozens of them say pretty explicitly they don't want a man who watches porn and shit The reality is that one isn't actually the case if you wanna get into it, or at least there's more nuance to it
/r/AllPillDebate15/08/23 12:35 PM
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Dude has someone who constantly complains about how ugly they are at a 6 lmao on subs like r/ugly and r/foreveralone
/r/AllPillDebate15/08/23 12:15 PM
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If good men/women exist, then where do you find them? Probably not within religion. At least not for those who aren't because of a conflict of values if you want wife/husband material Or like people will say that if you go to the club then ofcourse you'll find tons of shallow low quality high body count women but then the bar or club is the main place people say when you ask where it's appropriate to approach women, so...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 05:52 PM
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Wish I could get a fiance who liked anime :(
/r/AllPillDebate11/08/23 06:17 PM
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FMAB?
/r/AllPillDebate11/08/23 06:15 PM
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I understand there being a certain level of expectations for men. If a girl gets pregnant, she's gonna want a man who can afford that and having his own place, more money than her, etc. Compared to living with parents or whatever obviously is important. Lower income dudes are limited on the kinds of dates they can take women out on. I mean... I'm not thinking it's a bad thing to want a man who can stand on his own and support himself, not needing a roommate or anything. However, when the same wo…
/r/AllPillDebate10/08/23 05:49 PM
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Always been the part that I never got tbh. "Sex isn't a big deal" "there's more to life than relationships" "try self improvement" but did any of these guys have to change their lives before they had sex and girlfriends and got married? Probably not to the extreme that is recommended to those who struggle, which I guess everyone has their own strengths/weaknesses. Inevitably, anyone who has a healthy drive for sex if they went without it for too long would be in a pretty shitty spot regardless o…
/r/AllPillDebate10/08/23 05:39 PM
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has to be some kind of means such as if early on in an interaction to you make a girl laugh. Maybe if you're in work, school, or some kind of hobby, then people around you might know you're a decent person over time. Although at that point you're probably out of the romantic potential zone I mean... I think the tough part might even be developing a good personality in the first place if you're constantly rejected socially
/r/AllPillDebate09/08/23 06:35 PM
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Tbh I probably wouldn't enjoy ballroom dancing, but who knows
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 12:10 AM
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r/incelexit ? Otherwise, I don't know of any communities that can make you not blackpilled
/r/AllPillDebate08/08/23 11:26 PM
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Some places for various reasons probably actually do have fewer women, although some places might also have more, so who knows If sons are preferred and you're allowed to get rid of your daughters, then demographics would lean more male
/r/AllPillDebate08/08/23 04:57 PM
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Sucks for the people who are actually honest tho. It's not their fault
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 06:11 PM
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I think this was my issue in high school, but after that, it's not even close to the case anymore
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 06:10 PM
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Personally I'd date down like 4 years and up 3
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 04:49 AM
2

So what happens for mixed race people?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 04:38 AM
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I have no idea what even is a small hands/wrist from a measurements standpoint
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 01:02 AM
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You're only 2 inches below 6ft, but imagine if it were 5 or maybe even 10 and idk if you'd be saying it doesn't matter or have the same gf
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 02:28 PM
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Sounds believable
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 04:36 AM
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Don't think the no kids thing is bad, but talking about a guy who isn't career oriented when most women want a man with ambition sounds like a recipe for disaster
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 04:33 AM
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Definitely don't think more men than women is healthy compared to if it were more equal or even better more women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 04:29 AM
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Don't build a friendship with the intention of wanting to date or fuck later. Just sounds like a lame thing to do
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 11:13 PM
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I have no interest in suicide atm but I also think that as things get worse, I don't really have the ability to take it
/r/AllPillDebate05/08/23 11:04 PM
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Exceptions exist and it's truly amazing but idk how they do it when there are higher quality men who struggle massively
/r/AllPillDebate05/08/23 06:01 PM
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Ropefuel
/r/AllPillDebate05/08/23 05:58 PM
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Relationships sound rough. Struggle to get into one, and once you do find it, then they're all just going to go to shit anyway. Doesn't matter how much effort you put in
/r/AllPillDebate05/08/23 05:55 PM
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Women are just selectively hornier. Otherwise, they'll be very turned off and boring
/r/AllPillDebate05/08/23 05:53 PM
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Nothing, but I think it's just like they probably couldn't even tell you what they actually are doing that works. As far as they think it's one thing and maybe they're people they hook up with say something but it could be a whole other thing or set of things that aren't even achievable
/r/AllPillDebate05/08/23 05:50 PM
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Facts It is 1000x harder for a man to have sex
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 11:45 PM
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Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised. Like who wouldn't want a partner that their friends/family would also be impressed with
/r/AllPillDebate04/08/23 11:43 PM
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Doubt it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 10:52 PM
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Tbh, I'm not sure how well anything said in a place like this represents irl It's far from a majority of men here Idk how serious to take anything because honestly I don't imagine it's all hatred for women as much as some people have legit frustrations they need to vent and might take it a bit too far but could actually be pretty decent men
/r/AllPillDebate04/08/23 08:57 PM
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The things I wonder Feel like if you think a dude is solid would wanna maybe give him a chance Literally all based on vibes tho rather than facts
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 07:48 PM
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I think there's some value to similar politics, but I'd have to agree it's not a deal-breaker because I mean... don't think I'm gonna talk politics to my partner anyway, so... Although on a woman's end, I imagine you'd want a man who supports abortion in case you get pregnant if that's a concern for you. Other major things It's not really immigration tho or other stuff, unless maybe she's an immigrant
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 07:41 PM
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Something wrong with the young ladies these days. Specifically, women under 21
/r/AllPillDebate04/08/23 07:38 PM
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Is this a new account for who I think it is?
/r/AllPillDebate04/08/23 07:36 PM
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I'd agree, make it make sense. However, as men we need to adapt to the current climate and truth is even if you do want a traditional woman that most people of either gender aren't and so acting like that's going to happen would be ridiculous I mean... if I knew a woman was "traditional," then I would try to do everything right for her. Society moved on tho so not hard to imagine why guys might be jaded or whatever and think like she better pay so she isn't using me for a free meal, she better h…
/r/AllPillDebate04/08/23 07:35 PM
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How is being limited to sex with one man bad? I thought women didn't like hooking up with tons of guys who'll just use them for sex
/r/AllPillDebate04/08/23 07:27 PM
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Let's be honest. That's about half the problem with porn. I mean... if you're not a guy who can manage to get sex then your viewing other people having sex will shape your view on it even if it's not realistic because you just don't have any frame of reference. Especially if it's porn that looks a lot more real compared to pro porn where multiple large black guys fucking their step sisters type of stuff through a hole in the wall or whatever obviously isn't normal
/r/AllPillDebate04/08/23 07:14 PM
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I mean... maybe this is true, but have to admit that there is some valid danger in approaching women by the hundred
/r/AllPillDebate04/08/23 07:05 PM
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Let's be honest. We can complain men are too pushy but women would rather reward those men where as any man who isn't probably isn't doing too well because the woman will assume he lacks interest in her or has low self-esteem since he isn't coercing her for sex. I mean... if it wasn't working, I don't think men would be having the first thing they do being to send a dick pic or being sexually harassing. Or like if men doing one-liners/low effort answers is a problem, well, let's be honest that w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 08:58 PM
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Looks good and not a slut. Idk if it needs to be any deeper than that
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 08:53 PM
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Getting to the point of willingly letting women abuse you is definitely rope worthy
/r/AllPillDebate03/08/23 08:51 PM
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There are some shitty men who still get pussy so can't tell me it's all merit based
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 05:49 PM
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Guess we better be going after black women then if struggling men wanna find partners
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 05:33 PM
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So a man having other things to cope with lack of dating success makes him not an incel? I'm just confused on how videogame or porn changes things
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 05:32 PM
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People argue that on dating apps they just get used for sex and the dudes don't really like them so not like they're all getting into LTRs although I imagine part of that comes down to having too high of standards They don't seem like truecels as much as volcels
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 05:27 PM
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I mean... I don't think the money should matter if she legit likes the guy but 100% women having more money gonna kill marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 02:52 PM
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I don't think their mother would be a good resource on "young" women...
/r/AllPillDebate03/08/23 05:22 AM
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I support it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 04:46 AM
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Feel like an ASD woman would be fine, but I mean... I won't say I really know many autistic women, so that doesn't really mean much. It's really more about the perception that women could have it easier regardless of anything that could be seen as a flaw
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 04:19 AM
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Whats it called?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 12:18 AM
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Tbf, I'm not convinced most men wanna rape women now Although if that number was 0, I'm sure we'd all feel better because no man wants their mom or sister to get raped either and so good for them if they'd feel 1000x safer as well
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 12:12 AM
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Then how is it that men are more likely to be single? Someone has to be having interest in these average women if they have partners
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 12:10 AM
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Most men don’t desire me, even as an attractive woman. How do you know you're "attractive" then?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 11:58 PM
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Don't they get used for sex anyways, even without approaching the guys they actually like
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 11:44 PM
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Isn't that what women do to men tho...? I've seen dozens of men say they have trouble with women and stuff. They get told to have more interesting hobbies, touch grass, hit the gym, dress better, groom, take a shower, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 11:42 PM
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I mean... the fact that you say it's more rare and if women aren't as openly femcels or like now we have Tinder, it kinda makes me think there are many reasons men don't think about these women
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 11:24 PM
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Tbf, I don't think you have to be a passport bro to face prejudice. Could be some black family who doesn't want their daughter dating a white guy or whatever in the west Although the cultural adjustment to what is expected when dating in a foreign country does feel like it'd take a bit to figure out and get used to if you don't know. I'd be shocked to find out that certain things could be the case in other places with marriage
/r/AllPillDebate02/08/23 10:44 PM
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I imagine it may involve some idea of religion and classic gender roles A woman who doesn't disrespect her man, wants to have some kids, is willing to do more of the housework, wasn't out drinking/partying/hooking up throughout her teens, and 20s, someone who is willing to get married young, etc. I mean... before feminism women weren't allowed to be career minded, having no desire for kids, sexually liberated, etc.
/r/AllPillDebate02/08/23 10:39 PM
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I don't know if there's a problem with fucking them or whatever but the dudes complaining about how they don't want to settle down with them I'd think that anyone can end a relationship at anytime for any reason and therefore they definitely aren't getting commitment if I know about these things
/r/AllPillDebate02/08/23 05:27 PM
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Always found it funny how they're feminists in the streets and internalized misogynists in the sheets
/r/AllPillDebate02/08/23 05:20 PM
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I'm sure most are just in the sense that a lot of people in America/Europe are white, although if you looked at other countries, then the incels probably aren't white
/r/AllPillDebate02/08/23 05:19 PM
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Sounds believable
/r/AllPillDebate02/08/23 05:16 PM
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Social skills alone are an issue and so are looks so any combination of both doesn't feel like there's any easy way out especially for those who are older
/r/AllPillDebate02/08/23 05:13 PM
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I say 4? It'd bother me, but honestly, it doesn't actually matter at all
/r/AllPillDebate02/08/23 05:09 PM
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Part of me wants to hold out faith that height shouldn't matter if you have a legitimately good personality or other characteristics. At bare minimum I'm disappointed in any women who would knowingly fuck a horrific criminal. However, I think we all know that's not how the world works They can defend it by saying those women are just mentally ill or something, but it really is something about looks that helps a ton and being a great guy can't make up for a severe unattraction
/r/AllPillDebate02/08/23 05:07 PM
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I don't think Christian women are exactly good women either tbh but that seems more believable than being a slut broke them even if there is some legitimacy to earlier relationships in a person's life being more meaningful
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 04:56 PM
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100% I mean... if you're attractive enough you just hit up girls with some dirty messages about how you don't know if you want to respect the fuck out of them or fuck the respect out of them and they'll give you their snap so you guys can fuck Never going to happen for an unattractive or even average guy tho
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 04:39 PM
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If women who aren't my ideal don't like me, why would my ideal one? I guess that's what makes her ideal, tho is that I'd be her type
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 08:51 PM
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Match.com I'm sure shows those things
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:54 PM
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I feel like the severely underweight girls are their equivalent of short guys, except being short is significantly more common
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:53 PM
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Me lol, but I don't know anyone else who is
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:31 PM
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I think OLD has a lot of obvious issues and doesn't represent irl but at the same time it's like if you can win off of some pictures then I'm sure you're winning irl too where as guys who can't win from pics are going to struggle super hard irl
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:30 PM
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I want to believe if you lived your best life people would see that and want to be around you but I don't think that those who are in a defeatist mindset were born into that so idk how well it would work out to go back to where they were to begin with
/r/AllPillDebate01/08/23 05:22 PM
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Dudes are horny and it doesn't make the women "good looking" although definitely is some kind or female advantage that they can still find partners who are seen as somewhat high quality while being of a lower quality themselves while a guy on the same level would 100% get roasted for even wanting a woman on the same level
/r/AllPillDebate01/08/23 05:16 PM
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I don't think anyone expects anything to be done about it but it sucks and honestly induces a ton of anger but you aren't allowed to even talk about these things irl so ranting on the internet is like the only way to deal with it
/r/AllPillDebate01/08/23 05:12 PM
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This feels hilarious. People will try to say size doesn't matter, but if women are openly mentioning it or saying things to their partners, then...
/r/AllPillDebate01/08/23 05:11 PM
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If people think social skills matter more, I can give them that, but I feel like in some ways, it's still ignorant to believe. I mean... there's probably a lot more nuance to it is all It's easier to get in the door with looks. Some women will literally stay with a guy because he has good dick even if nothing else is going on. I'm sure visible status symbols don't hurt. If you're totally disabled socially being a Chad might not save you, but idk how much the reverse matters either with solid soc…
/r/AllPillDebate01/08/23 05:07 PM
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Tbh I'd prefer a relationship, but 100% ONS feels way more important. I mean... my ideal situation is I'd like to find that one person I really click with and wanna spend time with However, if I can have multiple women all thinking I was pretty hot and wanting to fuck me that'd definitely feel super validating compared to just having a boring marriage (probably a relationship or 2 before that) as my only real experience
/r/AllPillDebate01/08/23 12:13 AM
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So how do you actually go about bedroommaxxing tho
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 02:39 AM
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0-1. Never had much luck in girls liking me Although I'd say I'd be open to dating, probably 45/100
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 09:34 PM
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People want a family
/r/AllPillDebate30/07/23 09:26 PM
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You like guys who shave their armpits? Is this a common thing among people you know too?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 05:10 PM
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I think facial hair looks better, without a beard I hate my face even more
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 05:04 PM
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I'd say Geek/Nerd is a high priority Don't know why, but I got a thing for red-hair. Would also say I like Busty too, but these things are significantly lower priority. Realistically, I see myself as a man into variance. I can like certain chubby chicks. I don't have a fat fetish, but like if she's cute, then it's not like I'm setting my sights towards the most athletic of women. Not hardcore into milfs but I wouldn't mind a bit older either within reason. There are plenty of things that aren't …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 04:48 PM
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Gotta love how people deny it, but it's definitely true to a certain degree that people are treated differently based on certain factors, and so these situations can all come up at various times for various reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 04:37 PM
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This really doesn't even sound that bad. In the end, it's just all personal preference and lifestyle anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 04:32 PM
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If she wouldn't have dated you before she had a child then she's not worth your time, especially if she's going to be entitled too.
/r/AllPillDebate30/07/23 04:22 PM
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Got tips?
/r/AllPillDebate30/07/23 04:16 PM
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Part of me would agree, but honestly, it's just sad. They aren't high-quality guys, probably aren't trying to be, and those of us who know the truth would know its not worth trying to put so much effort into betabuxxing for bottom tier females In the end, tho everyone wants some kind of human connection, and these are people who, for various reasons, can't have that, so I don't think it'd be fair to laugh at them either. At that level of desperation, why try? However, I understand them being des…
/r/AllPillDebate30/07/23 04:12 PM
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I kinda get why those people who don't want to settle don't, but tbh we all know delusional women are a problem, and so men who suck at dating should probably go for their looksmatch as well. If you get attention from women, but it's the wrong woman, you aren't actually involuntary, I guess. I mean... it's the same shit women pull when they say no one likes them, but it's just not the guys they're attracted to
/r/AllPillDebate30/07/23 01:52 AM
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I've seen plenty of guys who aren't 6ft in relationships. Definitely never seen any guys shorter than me in one, tho. And the taller guys certainly have better-looking gfs as well
/r/AllPillDebate30/07/23 01:46 AM
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I don't see it as wrong but it all comes down to feminism because women historically have and try to claim that they still do (could be pretty true) a lot of BS and a lot of that can come down to men treating women as lesser when women are more feminine
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 05:29 PM
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Part of me wants to say like 50/50. I mean... on one end I think it's been talked about that men are less attractive and I'm not gay so I wouldn't find them attractive anyways Definitely seen those couples with tall fit guys and short fat girls tho and it's far from uncommon
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 05:20 PM
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I've seen older couples that are like hey the standards probably aren't too high Younger tho, the guys are all taller than me and stuff, so... RIP
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 05:18 PM
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I'd do it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 05:13 PM
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I have to wonder how you get into that situation
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 05:12 PM
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I wouldn't disagree that being just friends and legitimately friends with good reason with women is a good idea I mean... they're just people, same as you and me However, I have zero idea how anyone is expected to take that step as if there aren't a dozen reasons why they haven't been able to already
/r/AllPillDebate29/07/23 02:16 PM
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I've never even downloaded the app personally
/r/AllPillDebate29/07/23 02:13 PM
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Tbh I'm still confused about how people are getting dates or hookups on Instagram. Obviously, it's just a place where hotness wins, tho
/r/AllPillDebate29/07/23 02:12 PM
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They get what they ask for. Women said they didn't wanna be approached, and so if they want men to, then that kinda was counterproductive. I'm not sure how much they actually care, tho, tbf.
/r/AllPillDebate29/07/23 02:09 PM
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In some ways, I think an outside perspective could bring new ideas to the table or notice something you wouldn't from your own situation However, as far as why a therapist is that person? I couldn't tell you
/r/AllPillDebate29/07/23 02:04 PM
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I find it hilarious seeing women saying they want redneck men
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:34 AM
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That sounds super fucked
/r/AntiFeminists29/07/23 04:02 AM
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Hook up a lot at first, eventually find someone to settle down with and have a healthy relationship tho
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 07:49 PM
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Idk how true it is women liking bad boys compared to what it's made out to be but definitely at the bare minimum if you get bullied your pretty screwed where as those who do the bullying come off as more confident and likable otherwise you'd think someone would step in against them rather than always being for them. I'm not sure that has to do with fear or anything either because it's the people around them who give them the validation, and so if they stopped it, the bullies wouldn't win as much
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 07:02 PM
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I say take up fighting as a sport or something. If people see you're physically capable, then they won't he as likely to view you as "too" nice
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 07:00 PM
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Pretty sure those are the guys ruining it for everyone else, although at the same time, they're just playing the game I mean... I don't think women would have as many issues with men if they didn't get pumped and dumped by Chad, but on the other end, they kinda are choosing to, so idk I just have to think promotion of hookup culture doesn't benefit those wanting LTRs and who are legitimately ready for one and willing to settle down but if you can do it and want to then I guess why wouldn't they
/r/AllPillDebate28/07/23 05:08 PM
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Patience is never the answer imo
/r/AllPillDebate28/07/23 05:00 PM
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Think the implication is women having rape kinks since 50 shades is known for being about BDSM afaik
/r/AllPillDebate28/07/23 05:00 PM
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If women are making more money they can pay for their own portion
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 03:11 AM
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Guess physical fitness and the ability to win fights is just what women like
/r/AllPillDebate28/07/23 02:36 AM
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I was relatively normal
/r/AllPillDebate28/07/23 02:32 AM
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She's insanely beautiful
/r/AllPillDebate26/07/23 04:11 AM
1

Tbh I wouldn't find dating a gold digger worth it but at least the assumption is foreign women are more traditional and I don't think men mind being providers as much as they want women who appreciate it that they are
/r/AllPillDebate26/07/23 04:03 AM
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r/Nicegirls
/r/AllPillDebate26/07/23 03:59 AM
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Ironic because they'd tell you patriarchy hurts both men and women, yet they play a role in upholding the same thing they claim they want to tear down even if they obviously aren't doing it on their own
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 01:25 AM
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I'm not sure attraction is chosen, but it definitely can be influenced, that I can agree on. Also, a weird thing, tho about saying you can't choose what you like is it kinda defends pedophiles even if the real issue is with them acting on it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 01:22 AM
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I don't agree that hatred for women or women having historically not had rights and still not in certain countries is fake However. I 100% do agree that this shit has been twisted so hard it doesn't even matter or apply to most of the western world like you'd be made to believe
/r/AllPillDebate24/07/23 01:18 AM
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The funny thing about 3 is I kinda get it, but it also feels like reaching in a way. I mean... I understand Islam isn't favorable towards women, and so if you see a Middle Eastern man, you probably wouldn't want to date him as if he's Muslim. There's a clash of values there. However, it definitely does feel like it goes a little deeper than just that.
/r/AllPillDebate21/07/23 10:42 PM
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It'd be stupid to legit believe anyone has mind reading powers, but it's funny how anytime there's talk of a man being unsuccessful at dating its said they can sense their insecurities and misogyny and shit. I mean... I don't doubt women who date abusive men don't know better because I'm sure in part such men make an effort to not have that behavior until they think the woman is more comfortable. However, the whole thing is just hilarious. Imagine being able to tell if a guy is desperate but not…
/r/AllPillDebate21/07/23 10:38 PM
1

Tbh, I don't really like growing out my beard. I mean... I like having one but just never really gotten to the point where it's on the longer end
/r/AllPillDebate21/07/23 10:32 PM
2

Your height is average, but I get that people expect you to be 5'10"+ for dating, so I guess there's that
/r/AllPillDebate21/07/23 10:30 PM
1

Do Latinas even date blacks? Because I didn't think they did ngl
/r/AllPillDebate21/07/23 10:28 PM
2

I guess I'd pick the woman better in bed. I mean... looks can fade, not that it isn't also possible as a woman gets older, she wants sex significantly less. Although if communication and stuff are valued in bed, then that can hopefully mean better actual relationship skills rather than just good looks
/r/AllPillDebate21/07/23 10:27 PM
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Usually men don't complain but do think I can agree that if men need to respect boundaries that women should too with the only reason it not being as big of a deal being that women aren't as strong and stuff but doesn't mean some women can't be creeps
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 01:00 AM
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Given the idea that they turn on a dime I'd agree but at the same time I feel like there are outside of that still numerous legitimately good hearted men who just don't have the looks, charm, financial situation, etc. For them to be successful with women. I mean... I understand nice guy is used ironically when these guys will call the women a whore for not sleeping with them but think they are owed for being nice but it still doesn't mean that part of that doesn't also lead you to think maybe it…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 12:57 AM
3

They like heroes, but he has to traditionally look the part, too. Tall, muscular, chisled face, blonde hair/blue eyes, well dressed, charisma, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 12:52 AM
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It's not that women don't like nice guys. They just like other things more, and apparently, that's the part that gets ignored
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 12:50 AM
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Bad advice, if they want it that badly, they should look for it and go after it. Although it is funny how when some people aren't looking, they find the one so lucky for them
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 12:41 AM
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Feel like there's some kind of mixed answer. Women can be more openly insecure and I think want attention more openly, but it doesn't mean men aren't pretty needy themselves if they want relationships more than women do since women are more fine being single but it's just that men aren't as openly needy
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 12:39 AM
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I think even if #MeToo isn't the real reason the things associated with that still can be things that contribute to men not being men anymore. Also, if women want it, I still think they could take the male role if they know their man doesn't wanna be rejected but that he likes her. Although I get it, women want real men. Still not convinced cold approaches are good, tho. Warm approaches would be better, and the men who take themselves out of the equation before they even try probably got bullied…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 12:35 AM
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Honestly, I'm stuck. I don't think it should be humiliation or cause great shame to fill the father figure role for the next generation for what is a woman you supposedly really like if you choose to fit that role. I mean... it also depends because if the kid is really young, that's a whole situation, or if the kids are all grown up, then whatever. In the middle stages, tho, I probably couldn't do it. If you're a low value man, tho and don't have many options and all that other stuff layered on,…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 12:29 AM
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Legit wish we had numbers. I'd agree that even when people show off beautiful overweight women, it's misleading. I'm just curious if it's like we're talking about women who are 5'7" 200 pounds, 5'4" 180 pounds, or some other kind of height, weight, etc. Maybe a body fat percentage would help. I imagine part of it is just how the women are shaped but if some of the less attractive ones are morbidly obese while men are saying they don't mind dating an overweight woman and are actually willing to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 12:17 AM
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If the relationship is 50/50, then this is fair. The man isn't paying for sex and the woman is probably paying more if she buys her own birth control and stuff. However, I think at that point, the woman is having sex because she likes the guy and wants to without there needing to be traditional values getting in the way
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 12:11 AM
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I don't think not being a bitch is the same as her being a little sex toy but I definitely do think personality matters and so if hot women are going to be a pain in the ass while less attractive women are more fun and willing go compromise I'd take that any day
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 12:07 AM
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Well, he doesn't know she's not giving him sex and is only using him, so... lmao But, yeah... I'd be cool just paying if this wasn't a common occurrence. Tbf, I'd just pay by default but certainly wouldn't mind a woman offering to pay her own
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 12:02 AM
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I feel like even if you take other options to be a father that aren't the woman getting pregnant, you can still raise the kid(s) together, although I have to imagine there's a bit more complexity it that isn't just men wanting women to suffer
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 11:44 PM
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Men can easily cum from penetration so I guess that's pretty fair that in that area men are blessed while women would have it tougher but at the same time I'm not convinced there isn't some way to deal with it. There's a way for women to get theirs. Idk if orgasm gap is as simple as most men just suck in bed
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 11:38 PM
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This is what I don't get is why women don't train their guy. If the dude doesn't listen and they decide the issue is most men don't listen, then fine. However, I feel like you have to let it be known what would benefit your sexual pleasure before you complain a man isn't doing that. Also many women don't like virgins but I'm thinking if experienced dudes aren't making her cum either that finding someone they can train from scratch should be more ideal... but idk
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 11:33 PM
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I don't imagine this helps because the woman taking on the man's last name is probably a whole issue since they don't wanna be seen as property or whatever is the case. Maybe they have a very rare family name that they'd like to continue. She could also have business reasons to keep her name However, if that's legit anyone's beliefs is that they as a woman don't want their husbands name due to the history of that and want their kids to take on their name (maybe if you guys have multiple it can a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 11:26 PM
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Tbh, part of me wonders how big of a deal the kids' name is. Like I get it some men want their kids to have their last name and usually it's just the traditional thing to do but I'm sure it's not impossible to find men who just don't care if you talk to them about it. And like you don't need to take the man's last name in marriage either. I mean... as the mother, I'm sure women have some options in this specific aspect if it's that big of a deal to them
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 11:16 PM
1

Not at all. Condoms work. Thermal method works. Vasectomy works. Anal works. You will be amazed at how willing to find a solution men are, when you state your are not on birth control and you are not going to take Plan B or do an abortion. On some level, I kinda get it because there are a lot of men who definitely do complain about condoms, wouldn't want a vasectomy, etc. However, I think if a woman dedicated herself to the idea she didn't want to use birth control due to the issues and only cho…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 11:11 PM
2

If the process of procreation is too much sacrifice as a woman, then only date men willing to adopt, or if you don't want kids at all, then seek out men who are fixed
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 11:00 PM
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If they're at that point, you have a point, but if you're not at the point where two people are having unprorected sex then the man shouldn't have to pay for the woman
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 10:52 PM
1

Not into open relationships and anyone who has had that experience and enjoyed it is probably expecting that
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 10:33 PM
1

I'd say the man just because, stereotypically, men in general are more horny and there's that whole thing about dead bedrooms where women are too tired to have sex. However, funny enough I've definitely seen some stories of women complaining about how badly they want sex and their bf can't get it up or other similar things about how he doesn't want it which is an interesting reversal of things. If the sex is great, maybe women do want it more, but they just don't initiate it as often, so you'd n…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 10:28 PM
1

I'd say not very important
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 10:18 PM
3

It does seem a little bit questionable to stay with and reward bad men but then complain while people seek foreign companionship whenever these aren't men they wanted anyway
/r/AllPillDebate20/07/23 10:07 PM
1

I'm not convinced most females don't like video games, but what I do think is weird is how so many women will say they'd prefer not to date a man who plays videogames
/r/AllPillDebate20/07/23 09:07 PM
1

I'd take me an older woman lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 07:40 PM
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Idk why drinking and partying has to be the standard way of meeting people
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 07:37 PM
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I feel like sex work probably should have a decent price on it but definitely it being affordable is the point where I'd probably just do that and not waste my time trying to find women to hookup with when I can simply pay for it and that'd be so much easier
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 07:32 PM
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I think people can exaggerate it to where they think women only date 6ft+ men. However, I still think there's some level of women who wanna brag to their girls or whatever so it's not like you can just assume if some 5'7" dude wanted to date women under 5'2" they'd be fine if said women still want a man of average height despite being below themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 07:25 PM
2

A little extra weight really doesn't bother me
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 07:21 PM
1

I'd say blonde, but the truth is I don't have a preference either way, and if I did prefer a haircolor, it's red
/r/AllPillDebate19/07/23 02:23 PM
2

I wouldn't mind dating a woman with some extra pounds, but given that on average women are shorter, then why would I date a woman who weighs more than me? I can keep realistic expectations, but at some point, the idea of men dating women they're severely unattracted to sounds like a bad idea
/r/AllPillDebate19/07/23 02:20 PM
1

None of those cons apply to me Got nothing against natural women, cleaning, wouldn't abandon my child, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 03:02 AM
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Yeah, if women were more honest and we weren't just lying to dudes about how personality matters, then I don't think men would be thinking that being nice is what's most attractive to women
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 08:13 PM
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I don't think this is at all surprising. I wouldn't expect women to make their choices in partners purely on good behavior or to distribute themselves equally. However, I think this only boosts the validity of certain complaints because as much as people wanna argue against it there's no reason women wouldn't all want to date the top 20%+ of guys even if a lot of young men have to be single because that's not women's problem
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 08:00 PM
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I'm sure the things that unsuccessful men lack aren't beneficial in women either, but the difference is that men don't value it in the same way if a woman has high self-esteem and all that where as men are literally the ones who have to be amazing socially so that they can approach women
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 07:55 PM
1

It can make or break your life experiences for some people
/r/AllPillDebate18/07/23 07:05 PM
1

This is what I don't understand tbh. I'm sure social skills matter a ton, but if you were unpopular in school, then I don't think there's any easy route out of it and to learn these things that others find so natural
/r/AllPillDebate18/07/23 06:52 PM
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When your belief is based on personality being what attracts women rather than looks, money, etc. Then, I think it's just harder to justify your points. Confidence is an abstract concept in comparison. Even if it were true that women valued a man's character the most. It's the kind of thing that can be clouded by what surrounds that. There are reasons that shorter or uglier men wouldn't be as outgoing. Someone with a healthier body/body image probably wouldn't be ashamed of themselves as much. A…
/r/AllPillDebate18/07/23 06:31 PM
2

Did DeSantis actually do something pretty based?
/r/AntiFeminists17/07/23 10:33 PM
1

What about being a teen (as well as a legal adult) in prison makes someone American? Do teens not commit crimes in other countries?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 10:28 PM
2

50/50, either it's positive or she's going to cheat on you, and idk how to feel about it tbh. I'd have to respect a woman who cares about her health. If she wants to lose weight, then I'd support her, and we can improve our fitness together sometime maybe. However, I'd have to think any woman who suddenly decides she wants to look her best has another man she's interested in and that divorce is on the way, which would be my biggest fear
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 10:24 PM
1

Part of me thinks these people have a point, but the way they put it is always so shitty and slimey and gross. It also makes assumptions of the people who they feel are complaining about being a victim. I think we know we aren't owed anything, and so women shouldn't have to be forced to have sex with us. We don't own them. Their body their choice. I'm just having to believe they don't understand
/r/AllPillDebate17/07/23 08:27 PM
2

I literally live here and honestly kinda wanna move at some point as far as getting into a relationship and stuff
/r/AllPillDebate17/07/23 08:15 PM
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I really am not surprised that these things can go both ways. Idk, feel like as a man, if you mention your girlfriends sexual past on video and how that makes you feel or other such things you get laughed at and called insecure. I imagine for women, tho it shouldn't be any different. If there was video of a man having a 3some with two very attractive women and they were very enthusiastic while the current gf is overweight and not good at sex she'd probably also be destroyed to see that just like…
/r/AllPillDebate17/07/23 08:14 PM
1

I think using newborns it definitely isn't easy to just look at babies and tell you which ones will grow up to be the most attractive, successful, etc. However, I don't think that means there aren't things like a genetic component or any other factors, even if things such as diet, exercise, etc. Probably could benefit a man growing up outside of his genes. I feel as tho they help less after you're done with development, not to deny that it's still always more helpful than not. Although it defini…
/r/AllPillDebate17/07/23 08:05 PM
1

Feel like it further makes me think women and men just want different things out of a relationship if they don't care that their man isn't sexually attracted to them since I can't imagine there are really any men wanting to date a lesbian although I could be misunderstanding
/r/AllPillDebate17/07/23 07:59 PM
3

Any advice on where to find such women?
/r/AllPillDebate17/07/23 07:50 PM
2

I'm not saying they use social media wrong, although I'm sure that aspect of things doesn't help young girls with their body image or whatever has them down. Its just that occasionally some people will just casually say how they're depressed when they're really just like kinda sad even tho depression to me sounds like it's a pretty severe thing where you don't wanna get out of bed, you don't enjoy the hobbies you used to, etc. Not that we need to gatekeep memes like OP says because I'm sure they…
/r/AllPillDebate17/07/23 07:36 PM
3

I don't think people on amiugly need to be ugly but do think it sucks how so many attractive women will post and get upvoted in a place that ideally should probably be more open to those who don't look so good
/r/AllPillDebate17/07/23 06:03 PM
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I don't think depression has to mean your life is shit. Your life can be amazing, and you can still have depression. However, I definitely have seen a lot of teenage girl types on social media use it wrongly and misunderstand it, so I have to think they truly don't get it in the way some people here might. Although, I would agree that working on mental health before a relationship is kinda BS. I can see things going bad later because of poor mental health or that being an excuse a woman uses for…
/r/AllPillDebate17/07/23 05:57 PM
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I feel like personally if I were into a woman, I don't think a little bit of neurodiversity would be a dealbreaker, so part of me wonders if it's actually true. I'd hope that if someone were high functioning, they'd be fine. However, part of me also thinks women are actively looking for a reason to say no to a guy so it would seem like a redflag if she knew you were not neurotypical compared to another guy who looks the same or better then why wouldn't she prefer him which means you probably wou…
/r/AllPillDebate17/07/23 05:52 PM
2

As a man, A definitely sounds like the better option here
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 04:03 AM
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Feel like marriage is mixed. Like I'd agree, it benefits women, but then when you bring up the issues with it, then it wouldn't be surprising when women want the divorce, which is mainly what men have an issue with. If you marry tall and rich, he can beat up men who harass you and provide financially. If you have to constantly clean and don't cum tho then obviously that sucks as a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 11:02 PM
1

A man who scares away other men
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 03:09 PM
1

Wanted means they have a choice so I'm all for that although guess it means they're also more likely to get bored and leave, so...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 03:08 PM
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If they're doing it for money and stuff. otherwise, I assume most women just post pics, and if you sexualize that, it's on you, although the difference is pretty obvious between the two
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 02:53 PM
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I think money would last longer than looks but if I can have no problems attracting women and a better work/life balance then I'd take that over being less attractive but with a successful career
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 02:46 PM
1

Feel like when this does happen it's usually part of revenge porn which is bad but if you removed that aspect of it then almost wish it'd happen because it tells you which women aren't worth a relationship with if she does anal with other men but refuses it with you
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 02:43 PM
2

Milk is like the main thing they had to drink at school
/r/AllPillDebate16/07/23 01:41 PM
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I don't really see it being legal as being a big problem, and if anything, I'd hope it's beneficial, so I'd support it, but that doesn't mean it won't have issues that come up too
/r/AllPillDebate16/07/23 02:52 AM
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I feel like a solid 90%+ cares about height, but obviously, it's not all to the same degree. Like as far as how many women only date men over 6ft is a different percentage than how many women just want a man who's 5 inches taller than herself. Or some women might be cool with a guy who is only 2-3 inches taller. Then you have women who just want a guy at least the same height. Maybe you find some who date men shorter than themselves because they don't care and maybe it has benefits because they …
/r/AllPillDebate14/07/23 02:38 PM
3

I think hating women getting you laid would definitely be ridiculous to believe. However, it seems like whenever someone struggles with women that people assume women are well aware that they hate women. As if that's what's turning women off when it comes to people who can't get laid. Except there are a lot of guys who have no trouble with women that women will complain are just awful, so...
/r/AllPillDebate14/07/23 02:29 PM
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Tbh, I feel like any rankings are per person. Like I'd think face and status are more important, but I'm sure some women would pick a less attractive and lower status guy if he was taller enough.
/r/AllPillDebate14/07/23 02:22 PM
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Tbh, I don't think there's really an endgame as much as people are gonna live their lives and how they might change as technology and culture change. Personally, I don't really feel like roping, plan on getting surgery, nor do I put all of my focus into how awesome it'd be for AI sex bot stuff to be made to exist. Although I'm sure across a spectrum of people with blackpilled beliefs you'll see all of the above as some people really do just end up suicidal from this stuff, other people know they…
/r/AllPillDebate14/07/23 02:19 PM
3

I guess colonization will do that sometimes lol
/r/AllPillDebate13/07/23 05:40 PM
1

I'm getting the sense men should pay and if a woman wants to split she's not into you but obviously this isn't ever going to be universal so this shit is just so much more confusing than it honestly probably needs to be
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 02:36 PM
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I don't see the issue necessarily, but it does make you definitely see how some white guys have a serious advantage. I don't really give enough of a shit about interracial relationships, tbh and if anything, I would almost find them beneficial as I don't think we need to be so hung up about and act tribal about races. What's the big deal if someone is mixed race? However, if you're some Indian guy and all the Indian women wanna date outside their race, then that's definitely a feels bad moment a…
/r/AllPillDebate13/07/23 02:19 PM
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Part of me thinks this isn't unreasonable. I wouldn't assume Hollywood celebs are more trustworthy because there's a lot of abuse, pedo stuff, etc. But if a famous man wants to fuck I get why you'd take that opportunity. We can also argue men are just more willing to fuck around and are more horny as this isn't really new info since even ugly women can have sex even if not a healthy relationship and on dating apps men kinda just have that strat of swipe right on everything where women only swipe…
/r/AllPillDebate13/07/23 01:59 PM
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Every time I see these revenge porn posts, I go in and think it's probably not that bad. Turns out it always is. I'd think like the dude is just being an asshole by spreading around what should be private footage. Realistically, that's not the part that'd bother me as far as just if some pics and videos are out there of a girl that can be a bit spicy. However, the context around these posts is always so funny. Like the idea that women will give sex to guys they've known for less than one hour bu…
/r/AllPillDebate13/07/23 01:54 PM
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Women complain about men breaking up with them after finding out that they're a "whore" but it's probably just that they lied, right? Some men don't actually care about body count but about dishonesty Although funny thing is women will dump you too if she found out you lied about your height or that you weren't a virgin and yet if you're short or a virgin you would've been rejected anyways so these things kinda go both ways Either you're a liar or you tell the truth and get rejected for it excep…
/r/AllPillDebate13/07/23 01:38 PM
1

I don't disagree, but what would you then recommend men do that's different?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 10:24 PM
1

I'd say what you describe sounds statistically pretty average, although I guess that's not really what people mean when they say average
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 10:22 PM
6

any man getting approached is probably in a league of his own
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 10:18 PM
2

I can't even argue this. People can try to be progressive about gender norms and other things, and that's great, but we like what we like, and so dating preferences won't have the same level of progressivism as people will claim to have
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 10:15 PM
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I'm open to giving it a try, but only because maybe it'd be a fun thing to do and not within any context of a serious relationship
/r/AllPillDebate12/07/23 03:35 PM
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I didn't get the issue at first because I feel like you'd know your girl has taken some dick before and if her ex is sending you vids then they're just being a dick and so idk if it's worth caring about but if a woman does something with her ex and says she doesn't wanna do it for you but she did it for them multiple times then that's definitely time to run for me because I'm not going to just accept that
/r/AllPillDebate12/07/23 03:23 PM
7

I thought that was the whole point is that they aren't thinking about you and getting on with their day
/r/AllPillDebate11/07/23 05:38 PM
1

Think detransitioners ever gain empathy? Like imagine you're a woman and in becoming a man you learn it's not all it's hyped up to be so you go back to being a woman and other women don't even care about you anymore. Would think if that were me, I'd care more about my male friends and what they might be going through in their lives that is negative after having lived it. I'm just wondering if that connection gets made tho or if upon being back to a woman for a certain amount of time (such as may…
/r/AllPillDebate11/07/23 03:20 PM
1

If they aren't interested, why are they sending nudes? I can just watch porn and get the same thing
/r/AllPillDebate11/07/23 03:08 PM
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Realistically, I think it's a reasonable position. People in general would prefer the best. Although it doesn't mean it's wrong to be disappointed about it either, even if others will make it out to be a bad thing like you're a misogynistic weirdo if you buy into this stuff. Tbh I could see it being something that goes both ways and obviously the exceptions exist as most men aren't single or at least not virgins but I don't think this means there isn't at least something going on with human pref…
/r/AllPillDebate11/07/23 03:02 PM
2

Tbh I can believe some things, but women having a lack of knowledge at some point becomes unlikely despite it definitely being a common narrative
/r/AllPillDebate11/07/23 02:49 PM
5

I swear that sub hates all men
/r/AllPillDebate10/07/23 10:00 PM
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I think it's good women can have more choice but can't tell me any below average woman wanting an above average man isn't at least a little bit delusional
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 09:43 PM
1

Think we all know what women say, and what they go for isn't the same at this point. Like women can say they want respect and to be equals and stuff, but clearly, that's not the men they go after lmao. It's clearly dominance and a challenge they're after until they decide to settle later on
/r/AllPillDebate09/07/23 09:08 PM
1

I'm not sure I 100% agree with the king only seeking the best kind of thing because women do that shit and it's stupid of them to all want Chad. However, I genuinely see nothing wrong with doing this either. Honestly, it's just like who gives a fuck if some man goes to a foreign country and has sex? I'm sure women do it too lmao and no one is complaining.
/r/AllPillDebate09/07/23 09:03 PM
2

I'm not sure I'd care personally, but I think social media in general hasn't had great impacts in terms of I guess how attractive women seem
/r/AllPillDebate09/07/23 09:00 PM
2

Sounds like a bullet dodged tbh
/r/AllPillDebate09/07/23 08:56 PM
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What if they didn't know she was married, tho? Women can be deceptive if they're already going to cheat on their husbands. Personally, I'd say instead of shooting the other person, you should be allowed to shoot your own wife instead if someone wants to take it that far
/r/AllPillDebate09/07/23 08:52 PM
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I find it hilarious, but also part of me does kinda understand how women might feel even if they don't have that same care for men.
/r/AllPillDebate09/07/23 06:53 PM
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Realistically, I agree with not approaching women in inappropriate settings because even as a man, I don't go to the store to buy some milk because I want to socialize. However, I think even in socially appropriate settings just because she's there doesn't mean she wants guys to approach. Maybe your chances are better, but idk
/r/AllPillDebate07/07/23 09:27 PM
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I imagine there's more to it, but there are these things that do make you wonder. Like on one end I can kinda believe massive cocks are overrated but I still think above average (at least in girth, maybe...) is still preferable
/r/AllPillDebate07/07/23 08:02 PM
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Obviously, it's not working out for them, tho. Where as it probably would for a woman due to the unequal gender ratios and men having lower standards. Dating apps don't work is like a whole issue in itself, which could be gotten into, but I guess it wouldn't be productive, and using those stats in a gender debate doesn't represent real-world experience exactly.
/r/AllPillDebate07/07/23 07:50 PM
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I'm not sure how accurate this is as far as the life of an average woman. However, for the people who do fit that narrative, fuck them. We know exactly how they act. Some of the most shallow women who don't take rejection well but love to be hurtful when dishing out rejection, not realizing how bad it feels to be on the other end. I also know we shouldn't victim blame because it doesn't matter what you wear, but when people do sexualizing things for attention and then complain, it is hypocritica…
/r/AllPillDebate07/07/23 07:30 PM
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I'd say just one person, but obviously, no one is complaining about being desired by many either. I just would rather have a solid relationship than tons of casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 05:03 PM
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Isn't delusional if it works out
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 04:02 PM
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Yeah, idk if I can blame people for maximizing what they have, but it just sucks with how unfair it is, and honestly thats just life
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 09:10 PM
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I'd date him but I doubt this is how you attract women
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 03:24 PM
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So white men are more likely to be cucked? Sounds reasonable to me since that's definitely a thing in South East Asian countries is being more traditional, and being a single mom kinda outs you of that
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 10:58 PM
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I'm not really someone who is super hung up about wanting kids. It'd be nice but it's not a deal-breaker not to because tbh it seems like a lot of work and expensive and I really don't care about carrying on my lineage as much as I just want companionship
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 02:06 PM
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So many posts at the top removed
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 01:58 AM
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I wish I knew a solution for this because I'd love to try casual sex but I wouldn't know how to get started when the main options seem to suck
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 01:56 AM
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Would agree. Some women want to laugh. Some women prefer face to height. When you're talking about millions and billions of people, they won't all think the same. Money/status probably will get you very far in a foreign country without height or looks if a woman wants to provide for her family and move to America. Although I think some of that can also be viewed as an exception to the rules whereas height will generally be a huge positive regardless.
/r/AllPillDebate01/07/23 04:55 PM
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I think these things can shift around with age. Like for younger women I don't think money ranks higher than looks because they'd probably be more likely to fuck some cute guy working at McDonalds even if their ideal is a TikTok celebrity. Older women might take money/status over height. I guess tbf it wouldn't be her ideal, but maybe if he makes a good stepfather or something, which is where confidence and personality can also shine. Or younger women wanting a man to make her laugh and be fun t…
/r/AllPillDebate01/07/23 04:47 PM
1

What is HTN?
/r/AllPillDebate01/07/23 04:39 PM
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At least it isn't as bad as Western standards but still sucks for the under 5'6" crowd and especially for under 5'4". I mean... over here, it'd be under 5'7" or maybe 5'8" minimum when people say similar stuff whether they believe it or not. Since it could just be joking but even jokes still reveal accurate preferences
/r/AllPillDebate01/07/23 04:38 PM
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Feel like this can apply to anyone. If you're fat, a bad person, and your standards are higher than what the people who like you can meet, you'll probably be more likely to be single. The difference is that women have a higher value by default because men openly want sex more than women want men since feminism makes them think they don't need no man, and I mean... maybe they don't and are happier this way.
/r/AllPillDebate01/07/23 04:20 PM
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I feel like there's a whole thing where women will date men who are different for whatever reason, but it's usually a very small minority. Would really have to need the money, citizenship, etc. Or have a certain thing where you want to do these men a favor if you aren't just using them for your own purposes
/r/AllPillDebate01/07/23 04:06 PM
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I don't believe it's necessary and especially not with how risky it is, but I'd ideally like to still find myself in the position where I want it anyway.
/r/AllPillDebate01/07/23 04:01 PM
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Think certain things are just easier to notice than others for casually passing by people on the streets and are also easier to explain. However, I do kinda agree. Like I find importance in women's faces, but I imagine if a woman were looking around at various men irl height would be the first thing to notice or maybe other stuff if you're at a distance. Face value is more for photos, or if someone is right in front of you so you'd be able to look at them very closely. Also, think the other thin…
/r/AllPillDebate01/07/23 03:57 PM
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I feel like there's definitely an argument because as much as people deny it, it's like if casual sex offered women nothing, why would some of them do it? Women wanted sexual freedom. If they chose not to give a guy a blowjob on the first date and he did anything to force her to, that'd be rape. We can make arguments about how maybe the really hot and successful 6ft tall guy might leave them if they don't put out after a date or two but idk that he values you anyways if that's all he's after. Ho…
/r/AllPillDebate01/07/23 03:36 PM
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If you wanted to you could stereotype about how if mothers are the ones who are supposed to be more responsible for taking care of the baby then you could argue they probably got sick of that shit really quick as far as their kids crying but honestly it's like is anyone surprised women don't like it when men cry
/r/AllPillDebate30/06/23 04:27 PM
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I was expecting this to go differently as in, like being a sexworker means lacking femininity. I do think there is some truth to this, tho. Sexwork definitely profits from lonely men who are usually the less masculine types. Although I would think just because they're your customers doesn't mean you have to like them. Realistically, I imagine a sexworker usually isn't providing for men who are their type unless you just really want to restrict your client pool based on their height, race, eye/ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 03:36 PM
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This is what I'd wanna know because a lot of people talk about how a lot of Latinos are white passing but that doesn't mean the ones who aren't wouldn't have some of the usual issues, potentially. But idk
/r/AllPillDebate26/06/23 07:38 PM
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I really don't believe in marriage, and it'd take a lot for me to even consider it
/r/AllPillDebate26/06/23 05:15 PM
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Never got a diagnosis, but I'm not 100% neurotypical either
/r/AllPillDebate26/06/23 05:10 PM
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I think it's fair that asking for a number is offensive, but since women don't date short fat men, then it's totally fair that men shouldn't date fat women if that's not what they like.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:06 PM
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Would hope that with women being allowed to have careers, it'd be less common, but obviously not, and it's way more on display now
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:03 PM
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Think this is like redpill taking it too far kinda thing but in some sense yeah you'd be wasting your time and effort trying to get into a serious relationship without being established in some way, attractive, at least mildly interesting, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:01 PM
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America just has a lot more issues in general outside of dating that I'm sure don't help
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:59 PM
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100% it has to exist, although that's just old people being out of touch and not like kids are going to open up either
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:50 PM
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True, like it's a free meal and some fun if nothing else, so I don't see why women wouldn't date a man just because he asked as long as he's respectful and not ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:40 PM
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I'm guessing Jack doesn't know Jane is also Demi. Otherwise, couldn't he just ask her out himself and they develop dealings together. Maybe make his intentions clear upfront, but if she's demi too, then she should understand, right? Unless maybe I misunderstand, in which case best strat still might be just make a lot of friends and see where that goes. Idk
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:33 PM
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Lack of personal success and seeing everyone else who was the same
/r/AllPillDebate25/06/23 09:46 PM
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Personally, I don't hate women who do OF. If I were to hate anything to do with OF, it'd be the men who pay money for it. However, I kinda get why they would and it's not my problem because if they feel it's worth paying for then who am I to tell them otherwise as far as what they do with their personal funds
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 11:49 PM
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Arguably, being tall leads to more money if it's true that shorter people get discriminated against in the workplace
/r/AllPillDebate23/06/23 11:00 PM
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I pick tall only because being white and American mean more abroad than they do locally but it depends on what perspective you're taking because I won't deny the issues faced by Asian men who are discrimated against as dating partners.
/r/AllPillDebate23/06/23 10:45 PM
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Does older women being easier apply to younger men? That's what I wanna know
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 11:23 PM
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Honestly, why not?
/r/AllPillDebate22/06/23 10:56 PM
2

You meant maximum, not minimum, right?
/r/AllPillDebate22/06/23 10:48 PM
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I'm 23, so I have no real reason not to
/r/AllPillDebate22/06/23 10:45 PM
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What do you look like?
/r/AllPillDebate22/06/23 02:33 AM
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Men and lesbians just don't try as hard
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 10:57 PM
2

Honestly would have to admit I'm not totally aware of dating culture but like I'm not from a foreign country either so think the usual American stuff pretty much still applies since I don't expect it to just be radically different where I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 07:43 PM
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Some people would argue that's exactly why because no one wants to be the woman with the man who desires any woman he could get his hands on Although if you removed all women who are underage, dead, related to you, etc. That should leave at least one woman who'd say yes to a date if your standards just really are at nothing, and so if you're a guy who struggles with women and even the most genuinely unattractive woman rejects you, then it's probably over
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 07:26 PM
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I could go 50/50. I don't think undesirable traits in the opposite sex or my own is a rarity, but maybe it's not as bad as you'd think either.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 07:16 PM
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I'd think so, too. Would make zero sense to believe all women are the worst and that "good girls" don't exist in some capacity, but it's hard because I don't think there's really just any one place. Not all men are like any one thing, so women shouldn't all be a hivemind either. Just thinking tho like maybe you get told to find them in church, foreign countries, or some people got lucky and met someone while they were in school, but any place is going to have people of varying quality and I thin…
/r/AllPillDebate19/06/23 10:18 PM
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I'm not trying to get made fun of for giving my honest opinions on dating
/r/AllPillDebate19/06/23 04:02 PM
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I use social media mainly to look at art, so... but as far as dating, it's definitely not like the average guy is getting hit up in the DMs. Unlike attractive women who have a better shot at things coming up that could be a great experience for them.
/r/AllPillDebate19/06/23 02:21 AM
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Pinkpill - pretty sure it's "become a trans woman" Works for Superman
/r/AllPillDebate19/06/23 02:16 AM
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The majority of men weren't ever winning anyway, but things aren't exactly great as of now. All those marriages ending in divorce or just that never happen to begin with as far as the rate of single men. The cheating and people taking care of kids that aren't even theirs. Lots of not so good things.
/r/AllPillDebate19/06/23 02:14 AM
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I don't think I could judge someone like that. However, when we get to that point in the world where that's normal, then that might be a sad state of existence. I'd get it tho so I'm not going to call anyone a lower for it or anything like that or not be their friend over that one thing when that's up to them to deal with and if they're happy then it's all cool.
/r/AllPillDebate17/06/23 12:39 AM
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I imagine some women (1%) might genuinely just be that ugly that they can't get laid although pussy definitely has more inherent value than dick
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 12:06 AM
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Congrats to you and your bf, but your situation is a very uncommon and unique one, so without having the experience that most other people have, I don't think you'd understand
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 08:10 PM
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For a long term relationship 100% but if it's just some casual fucking I don't know why money has to be involved but maybe that's just more when you're younger.
/r/AllPillDebate15/06/23 08:06 PM
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I think its only natural to want better and in this metric that's determined by attractiveness so dream girl but I think reality is like you probably are more likely to succeed with the semi attractive woman who her body count isn't as high and honestly that's perfectly fine
/r/AllPillDebate15/06/23 02:04 PM
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And yet women will say size doesn't matter or even worse how they prefer average dicks because well endowed guys hurt
/r/AllPillDebate13/06/23 10:01 PM
2

Reddit is terrible for dating
/r/AllPillDebate13/06/23 07:00 PM
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Feel like the example is a little exaggerated
/r/AllPillDebate13/06/23 06:40 PM
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If a woman's boundaries were literally violated, I'd feel sorry for her and not want to put her through that again, although to some extent, it does make you think
/r/AllPillDebate12/06/23 11:44 PM
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Context matters. I'm not waiting a year to have sex with a woman who has fucked guys the night she met them but like if she was a virgin and wanted to wait until marriage I'd be willing to wait longer where as idk how quick people normally have sex but shouldn't be more than 2 months
/r/AllPillDebate12/06/23 11:42 PM
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I won't pretend it'd be flawless, but I seriously doubt I'd be an abusive partner or anything like that.
/r/AllPillDebate12/06/23 07:07 PM
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I was unaware that was a thing. Like if it were ballet, maybe that's questionable (not really, tho, I still don't think that's gay either), but dancing in general isn't really something that has any sexuality or gender and I think there are even some types of dance that might be more masculine
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 03:20 PM
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If they're big musicians, they probably got more wealth and rappers with tattoos, which probably appeals to a different demographic than some athlete guy who is tattoo free and cares about their health/safety
/r/AllPillDebate11/06/23 03:12 PM
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This sounds kinda sexist
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 09:35 PM
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I'm already 70% white, and I don't think my dick size is a problem either. Just being taller might help, or a better physique definitely would
/r/AllPillDebate10/06/23 04:22 PM
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I'm going to assume her dad isn't a danger and that whatever they're arguing about needs to be dealt with by them but for the most part probably should defend your partner whether that be in an argument or whatever and as an outside person might be able to help them come to a better solution
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 05:23 AM
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That, to me, seems like some weird stuff. I don't mind fat women, but I wouldn't encourage it either. I mean... if I was with a woman and she wanted to lose weight, I'd be supportive. Although that's not my ideal, so... I guess if you are thinking that the bigger, the better you'd wanna make sure your girl is eating as many excess calories as possible
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 05:10 AM
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I have a line at some point, and so if that line is crossed, then no, but certainly, there are plus sized women who I would be very attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 05:02 AM
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Ngl, I do find it to be some weird behavior how some women are attracted to toxic men and how that's just somehow an okay thing. However, I have to wonder if women who joke about having the worst taste in men actually mean their personality necessarily. "I like to date abusers" seems like an unusual thing to crack a smile about.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 04:49 AM
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Tbh I agree that men are treated a bit unfairly when they complain However, given the way things are set up and expectations since men are the ones who make approaches then if they complain they only get ugly women then they should probably do the whole self improvement thing and then approach every girl they find to be pretty which hopefully increase their chances of finding a mate their happy with It's not women's fault if they have no trouble with awesome guys approaching them or if only the …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 04:45 AM
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Some people can't even get consent from prostitutes in rare cases.
/r/AllPillDebate09/06/23 03:34 PM
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This is why I think it's a problem on both ends because if women actually like a guy then they shouldn't just be passive but that's what they've gotten used to because it's always on the man to risk rejection. Also, if women are complaining about men not acting upon signals, it's because they created this situation. I just think it goes both ways, tho because none of this stuff about how people who are attracted to each other interact exists in a vacuum. It kinda just goes in circles about how w…
/r/AllPillDebate08/06/23 05:50 PM
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I think this is ridiculous on both ends tbh. As men, we should realize that women just being nice isn't a sign that she likes you, and yet some men won't take no for an answer because a woman was polite to him once. This is why women often don't randomly just compliment men. It's probably because of bad experiences. However, if women think it's a problem, then they should do their part too as far as being more direct about things and stop being so subtle with their intentions. I think a little b…
/r/AllPillDebate08/06/23 03:46 PM
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I would agree that people constantly say just be more confident as some be all end all dating advice even when it's not that simple, but I don't think it's impossible to build either. I would think that as someone bettered themselves that it'd naturally make them feel better if you build muscle, make more money, etc. That you'd realize you now have advantages over other people and in some ways feel better, which means more confidence. Being put down heavily in formative years can really fuck wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 02:22 PM
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I would agree, but I feel like you don't know their situation either if you're judging them as a whole. Like they could've been married, and then their husband died soon after or something which would leave them a single mom when they did nothing wrong. I wouldn't just assume they're all getting pumped and dumped by criminals or are all easily deceived. Although given that they do have birth control, abortion, probably should've been more aware of who they were sleeping with before they got preg…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 02:12 PM
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Me
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 09:15 PM
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Her body is her choice. If men don't like it, then they can leave
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 09:09 PM
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I don't think it should come with a salary but if people think something should be done so that it's better for people to survive on a single income then I could be convinced to agree with that because having the mom (or dad) staying at home with the kid for their first couple of years could be more ideal in some sense vs having to deal with the bs of child care but no one should pay you for responsibilities you chose to have
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 08:48 PM
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I'd prioritize looks, but if you're getting opportunities and aren't capitalizing, then that's where personality improvement matters because you need a way to keep them interested longer once you get past those initial stages
/r/AllPillDebate06/06/23 08:31 PM
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I feel like it's not wrong that online makes it easier to see examples of the worst women where as irl I don't really meet such women but I also think people not saying exactly what they think on a subconscious level isn't meaning that the women on those vids that make women look bad are some kind or super minority either because we can look at the stats and stuff
/r/AllPillDebate06/06/23 01:59 AM
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Not enough info to choose but neither is a deal-breaker either
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 08:27 PM
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The more this happens, the better it might be for the men who still wanna look, I think. Because the women one isn't declining as heavily so those numbers might balance out at some point where there's less competition because most people realize it wasn't worth it. Probably not, tho
/r/AllPillDebate03/06/23 02:27 PM
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I go for looks being enough to get you pussy but the autism could become an issue afterwards since most women would rather date men who are neurotypical
/r/AllPillDebate03/06/23 02:18 PM
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I guess people care more about women so it's more newsworthy but also women are weaker and stuff so probably get killed easier to begin with as well as there's more motivation to kill women if you tie sexuality into the mix not that it makes it right because it's awful to choose to murder anyone
/r/AllPillDebate03/06/23 02:15 PM
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Someone killing their girlfriend is psychopathic behavior
/r/AllPillDebate03/06/23 02:13 PM
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I agree with the concept. If you're brown, you can't make your skin lighter, so everyone will see that. While for a gay couple, if they weren't being publicly affectionate, you'd never know and just assume it's roommates or two guys casually hanging out and not that it was ever a sexual thing. As long as they aren't wearing makeup or pride shirts or whatever and not kissing each other. It's not something you have to act on in public or at least don't play into stereotypes Although I think the tr…
/r/AllPillDebate03/06/23 02:11 PM
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I'm 5'7", and it disappoints me how many women say 5'8"+ due to how that 1 inch somehow makes a difference However, with muscles, I do believe it'd be pretty workable. It's less than average height, but it's not exactly short as much as the lower end of average, depending on where you live.
/r/AllPillDebate03/06/23 03:03 AM
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I think it was pretty obvious this would be a prank but I'd have to wonder if it was just for the camera or if this is some real shit because it's pretty messed up
/r/AllPillDebate03/06/23 02:37 AM
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I feel worse personally, but now that has me curious if it's true that women are more sexually inactive. Tbf, the idea that a significant chunk of young men weren't having sex did seem a bit ridiculous
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 02:30 AM
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I'm pretty sure people just care less about men given the differences in student teacher relations and how they're covered To be less extreme tho I think it's just simply less common for young men to date older so it never comes up where as people assume younger women want men who are more stable financially and can better manage their emotions because women mature faster If the assumption tho is that young folks are naive and easily manipulated as you'd be lead to believe by this idea of creepy…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 04:40 AM
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I think it's pretty interesting how there are patterns showing most women like certain men but at the same time it goes both ways and I do think there are always exceptions to any rule so treating women as a monolith isn't the answer. Most women want a taller man, preferably at least 5 inches taller, but that doesn't mean there isn't a woman who dates their same height or less. Fat people aren't attractive, but I'm sure there's someone into bigger guys Even with personality, I'm sure the approac…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 11:34 PM
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The first woman I kissed was fat and annoying, so there's that, lol I don't really sexually fantasize about women I know irl
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 11:28 PM
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I'm in agreement. Part of it to me is like I think it'd be easier to change interests than values. If I'm stuck on wanting 2 kids, then a woman who doesn't want kids isn't for me. If you are a feminist then some anti abortion conservative man isn't something you're compatible with. The list goes on However, I think if a woman wanted to go hiking, I'd be more open to giving that a try. Maybe if you wanted to get your girlfriend to try something new, it's possible, but whether or not she likes it …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 11:25 PM
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Cheating? Feel like if we're talking about a 10/10 woman then might be more willing to forgive then just move on to the next girl who isn't going to break my trust but it's hardly worthwhile to keep a woman who does that around
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 11:20 PM
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If an issue with personality is not being willing to settle or working hard to improve, I'd agree
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 11:10 PM
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Yeah, I don't think you could really expose guys. Although if you wanted to, I guess use a fat woman and pretend to have a really high body count and act super liberal because men will say they want fit and conservative women if you get some matches from guys who seem kinda Redpilled, that'd be funny, but it wouldn't prove anything new because we already know ugly women can get sex while their issue is more lacking the commitment
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 11:08 PM
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I've heard using ugly women mentioned before since men talk about how they get no matches and are so touch starved but wont take an ugly woman seriously as relationship material. Also, when women complain about how they don't get attention, then guys complain about how women only want attention from Chad, and when a normal guy asks her out, it's sexual harrassment Doing some kind of ugly woman fishing could prove ugly women don't have it all that easy on apps either if that's true, but idk. Othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 11:04 PM
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Women have a lot of power and privilege in that area as you say although I imagine for them it's like raising a 3rd child if they're having to force you to do things and I don't think they wanna have to be the one to make you call your mom for mother's day or whatever else
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 02:10 PM
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1 or 3. Obviously, I want some level of consistency and not just one and done but wouldn't mind mixing things up and not being into relationships too long term
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 02:05 PM
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Not ugly, no kids, not mean/abusive, wouldn't want someone with extremist values, tbh a lot of it is just the usual stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 01:55 PM
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I imagine that men who want an active woman are active themselves, so you'd want a woman who you can go outside with Otherwise I'd just start saying I want a woman with a good diet which plays more of a role than exercise since you can only burn so many calories at the gym vs just not overeating and eating the right stuff It's really just that fat chicks aren't attractive generally
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 01:51 PM
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I think it's pretty normal that most people would want to feel desired, and being able to have sex with lots of women would accomplish that, as well as other things
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 12:19 AM
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It's not something I'd support, but if it works and some people like it, then I guess it's whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 06:56 PM
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Wasn't there that one thing about guys on boats paying sex workers and not realizing that these women were 30 and ranting about how women under 25 are the only beautiful women, because I feel like this is basically that. Obviously, if a woman takes good care of herself, you have a harder time telling if she's outside of her peak years for beauty. I also think people assume 30 is older than it is, but like it's really not even that old. I'd also agree there are some beautiful thick women regardle…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 06:52 PM
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I think this is just because now that women have some money they think they don't need no man so they'd rather just fuck hot guys and not worry about needing his money as long as he is financially stable enough although they still expect you to pay for dates
/r/AllPillDebate31/05/23 01:27 PM
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One group is men who can't get laid and the other is frustrated women who pick bad men
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 01:14 AM
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Idk exactly what they're talking about, but she does look like someone who'd want a man with face tats and stuff
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 10:01 PM
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Probably 20-25% I think this is right. 10-20% is like an athlete, but I don't think you need to be in the athletic range to be attractive, and some people might not even be into that, but idk. 25-30 is average, and then 35+ is obese. So basically, if you care about your fitness more than the average person but without the need to overdo it, then you're probably doing well, I feel.
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 09:54 PM
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Make up is an easy one. Not unusual for women to look totally different without it
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 09:50 PM
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I'm not against Feminism as a whole, so I wouldn't not be friends with a Feminist. But I am against bad faith feminism and what you describe isn't even close to that
/r/MensRights30/05/23 06:25 PM
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Yeah, I think this is something people don't want to admit but its pretty obvious that if a guy met a woman's standards he wouldn't be a virgin so being a virgin takes you out of the running. The other side is that some people who are virgins are seen as those who probably can't pull off certain things women want, like dominance, and so the stereotypes associated with male virginity don't help.
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 06:14 PM
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I'm too young for that but in a decade or maybe even just 5 years I might consider it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 05:57 PM
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I'd agree in a certain sense where people posting on forms about how ugly they are don't post pics but some do have pics and look pretty normal although it's kinda complicated as far as how this whole looks thing goes and not knowing how women perceive your looks actually
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 04:09 AM
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This is where the whole beta bux thing comes in, tho, right? I mean... I assume that isn't her settling for a rich man as much as an average man after she fucks all the rich men but the average man can provide well enough I assume or if she's broke then maybe she's used to it Because I think most red pill people know your average woman isn't seriously dating a doctor, lawyer, CEO, etc. and is instead more likely to date a teacher, bus driver, janitor, or just someone more within their class. And…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 04:01 AM
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I think dating is easier for women but aspects such as safety are far from it or like sexual harassment but I think those concerns exist outside of just asking a girl out and having dinner together or something because that could be a friendship issue or a random crime issue even if it's not that common
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 03:54 AM
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Situational. If men were openly talking about leaving their wife once she turned 40 or gained 20 pounds, I'd be against that, too. I never said I was against not dating poor men as a whole, tho because I still get that some financial stability matters for marriage and all that. I just think if two people properly love each other, that can endure some of the harder times as long as they aren't just sitting on their ass and giving up Although having a below average salary doesn't impact physical a…
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 12:52 AM
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Ngl, I don't want short kids because I know how much it'd suck for them, but I don't think future gene pool is necessarily a significant enough influence on my current preferences because inevitably I'll like what I like and so no need to create outside logical standards based on things far out in the future that don't personally impact me
/r/AllPillDebate29/05/23 11:00 PM
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As a shorter than average man, knowing that women want that 5+ inch height difference sucks. Who knows tho, maybe I'll get lucky and meet a woman around 5'2" or less irl
/r/AllPillDebate29/05/23 10:57 PM
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If she's trying to lose weight then I say we go for it together or just like if she has a cute face then you know if she's willing to try she'll look even better so I'd be supportive if she is someone I get along with. However, I think I'd be afraid that once she does start getting more attention, she might leave me to go for a higher ranked man as is usually how that goes. As far as being poor, I understand the motivation to go for a higher income man or not wanting to stay with a man if things…
/r/AllPillDebate29/05/23 10:50 PM
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I guess fat men can't even get fat women then, lol. If fat women are at the average healthy men tier
/r/AllPillDebate29/05/23 10:43 PM
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I heard that isn't just OLD and includes other things, too, but I'd almost think that's worse. I can't imagine dating on social media. Might create some weird standards about how many followers you need to have or whatever, whereas I don't think your online persona is as relevant for online dating on apps in the same way. Another thing is if you're lucky enough, maybe you can meet someone while gaming, but it seems highly unlikely. But I assume that's something counted is you might play some vid…
/r/AllPillDebate29/05/23 10:41 PM
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I feel like bi people probably have different standards. Otherwise, it's just like lesbians have different standards, which I don't think has to be unusual because it's like are gay men only into other gay men who are 6 feet tall? I wonder how the rules apply to them. Could be that women wear their weight better, are naturally shorter, and feminists think women make less money, making them more willing to accept a less wealthy woman. Also that maybe for bi women, you want a dominant man but want…
/r/AllPillDebate29/05/23 10:32 PM
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I don't view it as misogynistic itself because it's normal to want the best partner, but if they're dehumanizing and we've definitely seen women dehumanizing short men and stuff, then that 100% is an issue. I wouldn't wanna be partnered with someone who has some of these insane requirements either, but that's a whole other thing because it isn't the most uncommon thing. Otherwise, everyone would date everyone
/r/AllPillDebate29/05/23 09:43 PM
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If it commonly is an issue, I say no, but I feel like realistically, if it's not, then no one would notice it, which makes it a dumb thing to even debate. Like I don't think men should walk into a women's restroom and have women scared they could be raped but I'm assuming restroom rapes aren't common so it's just a lot of this could happen, and it'd be bad if it did but it's not so idk. And like if a transman went into a male restroom, had a beard, didn't talk, went into a stall, and did their b…
/r/AllPillDebate29/05/23 09:40 PM
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It wouldn't be my business and I don't give a shit for that reason as long as like ideally you wouldn't want your kid getting pregnant but for sons it's the same thing that you shouldn't want them getting other peoples daughters pregnant either, so... However, since women complain about how men treat them I'd almost think like even if it is based in sexist values that it's not unreasonable for a father to warn his daughter about men who might pump and dump her and so she should be careful about …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 01:42 AM
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I'm not going to say more shouldn't be expected of men, but if it's just simply that men are capable of more, then even if that isn't untrue, it seems a bit sexist against women to say they're the less capable sex so we should expect less of them
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 01:33 AM
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Some men don't always even get sex but like the dishonesty in that is something I seriously hate. I guess if women want free food and are willing to exchange sex for goods then good for them, but should be more upfront about it so that you aren't stringing guys along when that guy could find a girl who sees a real future with him
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 01:47 AM
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Did men create the perception that women prefer men over 6ft?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 08:18 PM
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I assume the idea is bigger women are more likely to accept bigger men vs a fit woman dating a larger man but I don't see how that'd even be relevant or a problem because then it just turns into looks matching over preferences
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 07:25 PM
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I'd say I like most things about women's bodies, but how that overlaps exactly with things they hate about their bodies idk
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 07:23 PM
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I don't think it's just because it's trendy. Like fit has always been ideal for thousands of years probably
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 07:22 PM
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I feel like obviously if you're full head of hair then going bald would be bad, but if you're talking about advice given to people who are already balding then having hair on the back and sides with none on top probably isn't helping your attractiveness. Not unless you plan on doing something else to deal with that so that you don't have to be bald, which I do agree isn't ideal
/r/AllPillDebate26/05/23 11:32 PM
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Not wrong, some men are more likely to lack social skills than women
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 11:24 PM
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Jealousy certainly plays a certain role. Idk why men wouldn't be jealous either. But like there is a point where if you get a woman to go out with you that being petty and shit obviously isn't how you should be behaving
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 11:21 PM
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Then why is she having sex? She doesn't have to consent. Should notice that the relationship isn't going anywhere sooner rather than later
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 11:12 PM
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If men are saying go sleep with 50 different women before having an opinion, then I think that's a bit much, and I wouldn't assume every man is sleeping around as consistently as they wish they could Although, even if women do end up coming here and say no, I feel like self-improvement and emphasis on masculinity probably does work better than they want to admit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 10:26 PM
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Do you mean like with girls who claim to be taken advantage of? Because I'd agree there probably wouldn't be pics, so it probably didn't happen
/r/AntiFeminists26/05/23 07:52 PM
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I hate peer pressure so much
/r/AntiFeminists26/05/23 07:50 PM
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If you're funny enough, then maybe a short, fat, or bald guy can have a chance (obviously not all 3, tho, so you have to pick your battles, which is fair) But then it's like as long as you aren't low functioning autistic or something a better looking guy will always win and if he's good looking enough he could even get lucky enough that he can attract a much larger portion of women than any man with an amazing personality but only average looks I think personality can play more of a role than gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 07:07 PM
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If people think TRP has issues I can kinda get with that to some extent but usually it does seem like the people who dislike RP think women are awesome and it's like women are sometimes into toxic stuff so I don't think we can just be blaming men and say that these philosophies are as a whole evil and immoral when they aren't
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 05:16 PM
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People talk about how men pick wrong, too, but I find it hard to believe there are good women put there who aren't being picked (or who wouldn't have lots of good options)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 05:05 PM
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Inevitably, this will be the reality of the world. I won't advocate for objectively evil acts, but anyone thinking it's the good guys who win most of the time would be wrong. (TRP isn't even immoral, tho)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 05:01 PM
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Idk, seems partly right. Certainly, there's a portion of people who take the advice to become high value because they think it'll help them get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 04:59 PM
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How do you know men aren't as loyal as women?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 04:50 PM
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I don't think manipulation tactics are a good thing but women do it too so I think if people wanna find success then you're going to have to learn how to compete on an even playing field instead of being naive about how women work
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 04:44 PM
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I don't see how red pill is at all immoral tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 04:34 PM
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If women like it when you're forceful and confident, then I think not being that would obviously be a turn-off
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 02:46 AM
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As opposed to women who are male?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 02:39 AM
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Not atm but I wouldn't not consider it in the future
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 02:36 AM
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Basically true
/r/AllPillDebate25/05/23 08:37 PM
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I think Emma looks better, but it doesn't matter who looks better when we're talking about celebrity women because they're basically all 8/10 tier women and like even average women are seen as attractive by many people
/r/AllPillDebate25/05/23 08:21 PM
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I don't see women as the victim in this, but I do think it's pretty fair to say women are complacent with the patriarchy they claim to hate when it gets them free stuff from men
/r/AllPillDebate25/05/23 08:08 PM
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Women win this as far as being objectively better looking just on average
/r/AllPillDebate25/05/23 08:02 PM
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Works for me as a reason since if a man gets beat up, his woman usually loses all respect for him. Although I feel like random street rapes aren't exactly close to common
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 06:50 PM
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I was surprised seeing Tinder given that these days that'd never happen
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 06:46 PM
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I think it's probably better to just accept reality as is but I'd find it hard to think in a world where I got jacked at the gym and am now making tons of money which leads to women flirting with me commonly that I wouldn't feel some kind of displeasure at how women only want me for my money and body when no one ever cared about me as a person before
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 03:57 PM
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I don't even think most men care as much as it is made out to be. The only people who do extremely care are those who are well past the average age of having sex and don't want a woman who is more experienced. But outside of them, some religious folks, and maybe just people who are insecure due to seeing 50% divorce stats and thinking a woman's sexual history is the sole reason I doubt the majority of men are harmed by that
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 03:52 PM
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To some extent I think I'd agree because some people wanna have relationships and not throw labels on things so it's like if you guys legitimately hang out and spend time together and it's not just sex (part of FWB is friends after all) then I could see it being more. There's a certain point where it'd make sense to be that way for some people. However, I think some people legitimately do just enjoy casual non committed sex and it isn't really with someone they wanna marry or whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 11:57 PM
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Personally, I don't even want kids, but I guess if I did, they wouldn't have to even be mine necessary. Also, I don't care for babies, so that's part of it. Although I imagine for a lot of people your parents would want you to. Parents are always talking about wanting grandkids and stuff when you aren't even thinking about getting married or dating anyone The only way carrying on a family name even matters is maybe if it's a unique name because I'd agree no one person is that important, but it's…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 11:41 PM
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Yeah, I would think a lot of red pill people wouldn't just buy into that content if they had no personal experience because someone already desired by women isn't going to think that they need to do anything different to get their attention. However, I imagine for younger folks that those content creators being ad big as they are does have a certain influence on them. There's a difference between an adult male going red pill and someone in 4th grade.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 11:38 PM
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I feel like this is the tough part with this whole dating stuff is we can debate it all day, but reality might not be the same. The problem is that it's hard to know if no one speaks up, so I don't think we can blame people for using the media as a point of reference. If most women don't mind being approached, then that's cool, but it's always the women who complain that too many short ugly guys are harassing them that are the most vocal and get the most attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 08:06 PM
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I feel like there's nothing really in it for women to approach men unless he's excessively hot and I'm sure for women it's not that they don't want men to approach but a lot of men are creeps Although I would think when people talk about how only pretty girls get attention and generally men ignore the average woman it's like if a less attractive woman came up to me I might still be willing to give it a try and I don't feel like I would be an intimidating guy to approach either but that's just if…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 08:02 PM
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Paul Dano I agree is very average but I think Anna Kendrick is pretty clearly above
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 11:32 PM
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I'm not sure the struggles of something like autistic women should be downplayed. There are probably some issues in getting into a relationship, but it's not a thing people just casually talk about. However, since men are the ones who approach and most of a woman's value is in her looks, then there probably is some benefit of the doubt for women who aren't the most adequate socially where as for a man you need to be more socially ideal as you're expected to lead and dominate which you can't do w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 11:25 PM
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I wouldn't think most women care about money since that's the whole issue with dating is how they'd rather be single as they have their own income now but with enough of it like being a millionaire I guess since gold diggers exist their minds can change pretty fast if the circumstances are right
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 11:22 PM
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Feel like this is the important thing. And maybe it reflects badly on men, idk. Having sex that is satisfying for the man but never for the woman seems to me like she's basically treated as an object in the scenario if her partner doesn't care about if she has a good time. Wouldn't just keep doing something that isn't a good experience. Even if there are more than enough potentially willing partners
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 01:51 PM
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I think part of the reason women are fleshlights but men aren't human dildos is because it's not like there's really a statistic about how most men don't orgasm from sex. Although if women enjoy casual sex good for them, and if not, then certainly it's easy to avoid. And as far as unwanted harassment I can see how that's a big problem even if men wish some woman would come up to them in the gym and flirt
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 01:40 PM
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I think with relationships, the assumption is that if you are committed to someone and care about them, then you're going to put more effort into their sexual pleasure. This is in comparison to one night stands where the guy might not put the work in to make you orgasm. You're basically just a hole for his pleasure if he doesn't care about your pleasure Although I think that'd reflect worse on the guys who are pumping and dumping without caring if the woman had a good time than it does poorly on…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 01:23 PM
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Never seen a guy call a woman a fleshlight tbh, but you definitely hear women refer to themselves as a flashlight when you bring up how even ugly fat girls can get sex way easier than an ugly fat guy and they complain how those men on dating apps don't care about female pleasure
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 01:12 PM
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I'd agree. Like a man unattractive to women knows he's fucked where as an average woman will always try to date higher than her looks so she's probably overating herself which isn't something men do to the same degree
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 03:21 PM
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Because she should've found a beta when she was 20 instead of wasting her best decade fucking all the alphas and then expecting better out of you now that she's older
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 05:03 AM
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I think it gets easier when you're 30 assumes that you're going after younger women and that younger men just can't compete vs. older men for women in their 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 04:52 AM
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If you're being sexually assaulted and your man doesn't defend you, I could understand losing respect for him, and violence to defend loved ones is way more respectable than domestic abuse, which is pretty horrible to do. However, I feel like there's probably a situation where it'd seem cute that a man is willing to beat up other men who bother you but actually it comes from a place of insecurity and jealousy and while it might seem attractive at first there is a point where it can be possessive…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 04:50 AM
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I feel like it's two different issues. If women really do wear makeup for themselves like they say, and it's not just to impress men, then there's that However, it shouldn't be made into an expectation or requirement or anything like that just because they willingly do so. Don't think anyone enjoys feeling forced to do stuff like that
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 03:01 AM
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Never personally witnessed misandry irl as much as just seen tons of examples in media, the news, on the internet, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 02:55 AM
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If I were given pics of various women over the internet, I wouldn't mind ranking them, but definitely irl it's not like something I think about. It's just like if she's hot, then she's hot, and if she's not, then it is what it is, and this is more about subjective taste than anything objective. There's not really an exact math to it because I like a variety of types of people
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 11:05 PM
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Probably shouldn't need to be a formula. I feel like as a person you should know that if you're 30 that an 18 year old would be kinda young for you and idk that most 30 year olds even like 18 year olds as much as it's a narrative, but I do think it's helpful to have that just to have something you can specifically point to rather than being vague about what an appropriate age gap is. I mean... as far as the whole dividing you're age by 2 and adding 7, I wouldn't wanna date a 32 year old even if …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 10:56 PM
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I could do this, but I feel like it varies a ton, so It's not like I'm just focused on red heads, with green eyes, who are 32B bra size, 160cm, 55kg, and whatever else specific features.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 10:51 PM
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Being easy obviously isn't going to be attractive to women, so I'd rather they not think that, because who wants a man who is willing to fuck any woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 10:45 PM
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Sounds good to me, but I can understand if someone would want a partner who is more mentally stimulating or who isn't just a trend chaser, so that might be where having never had an original thought would become a deal breaker
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 03:18 PM
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I'd actually have to agree. I mean... I'm not looking for my partner to be a doctor or rocket scientist. I think if they can competently cook, clean, are financially stable, good emotionally, etc. They probably have some form of intelligence Some people can't even do what is seen as things that should be pretty basic. I assume if the cooking isn't a fire hazard, they can't be totally stupid, or if they were dumb they'd be bad with money or whatnot. Emotional intelligence also being more importan…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 03:06 PM
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I don't think intelligence is top of my list, but if she's a total idiot I'd get seriously annoyed and probably not wanna be in the same room
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 03:01 PM
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Never got any dating advice from my family
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 02:59 PM
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Average I agree, but below average for me is just a no. There's no way an unattractive man is getting a partner just because he has an amazing totally optimized personality because the problem is you're losing before you enter the door and personality matters more when you get to know someone. Being outgoing does open more opportunities, tho so I can see an average guy benefitting from that vs. an above average guy who has terrible social anxiety and stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 02:51 PM
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I agree with self-improvement, but I don't think waiting until you get there has really helped anyone, and the whole thing is a process. I can see how it's a problem if people think women need to lower their standards rather than doing things to meet the standards of the women they find attractive or the people complaining could lower their own standards first. I just don't think it should turn into a thing of forgetting about women until you've gotten jacked, are making 6 figs, etc. At a certai…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 02:47 PM
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I have other hobbies I'd almost rather do than play video games, so if it's a choice, I guess I choose sex Although videogames won't cheat on me or hurt me in other ways like a woman might, so...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 10:19 PM
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Yeah, being a zoomer is rough
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 12:27 PM
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People really should just be honest and maybe explain things better. Might not be the most socially acceptable thing but we'd probably be better for it rather than using sayings like "nice guys" and "small dick energy" and all these other things that don't really mean what they appear to and most people understand that but it still creates a certain level of confusion and issues. And then, if a man was honest, he'd look bad, but it's not like people aren't reading into stuff anyway and calling c…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 02:21 AM
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I feel like it was always a thing that nice guys were never that nice because people use the term ironically, but if you just mean naive sheltered men who haven't taken the time to mature and grow up then I guess I'd agree they're lacking in development. Then, when it comes to how women are attracted to bad boys, it's like even tho they're not the bad boys aren't being nice just to expect sex either so they have other things/more to offer so I'd agree there too that a mix of good and bad can be …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 02:17 AM
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morals are important, but they aren't top of the charts. I'm not convinced a normal woman would date a horrible person, but there's obviously room with what some people can get away with
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 12:28 AM
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Triple digits is definitely a hard cap. I guess 50?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 05:16 PM
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I wouldn't be surprised if women are good at putting on masks. Not saying most of them do because idk but like it would make sense is all
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 05:13 PM
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Yeah, it's pretty obvious women don't like emotional men when you see how a man who gets emotional on TV is treated but don't even need to see this and the reaction to it to have known because there's a reason men don't show their emotions as everyone knows this from an early age that women find men who cry to be weak and pathetic
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 04:56 PM
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Whatever women NEED men for, I'm sure they can figure it out without there being men. Store up some sperm, learn some new skills, don't be afraid to get dirty, and there would be fewer physically stronger people wanting to hurt them or each other. Don't know like how many female leaders are looking to take over other countries
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 02:36 PM
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If the woman is much smarter and doesn't want to be dominated, then the two people are probably incompatible However, I think if despite being smarter the woman still would prefer the man to lead or make decisions then I don't see what the woman being intelligent changes because it's just the same relationship but the woman is smarter. And I feel like this probably exists on a spectrum because being the man you can dominate in dating, sexually, making more money than her somehow, etc. But then, …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 02:14 PM
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If any women are complaining about being fuckzoned, they're probably aware of the issue, and if they chose to stay in that relationship, I feel like it was because they probably don't respect themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 10:34 PM
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Can we get this thread in reverse? Because I'm sure many women do the same thing by going after men for their looks rather than how good of a person they are
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 02:38 PM
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If a low value man asked out a high value woman, then he'd definitely look pathetic at the end of it for thinking they're even close to being equals
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 02:32 PM
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I imagine that for a very small minority of women, it could be an ego boost. Like, guys want me even tho I don't want him, which means he can't have me, but he still wants me anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 02:30 PM
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Tbh I imagine it's a total pain in the ass and then you have to deal with the idea that there might be consequences afterward. Once you turn a guy down, he might hurt you
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 02:26 PM
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If you mean platonic female friends, then that'd probably be helpful since it'd be a real woman that you can ask questions and not just assume things about women that are false. However, as far as actual girlfriends, I'm going to guess most people don't. Otherwise, we probably wouldn't be here complaining about the dating market if we had a girlfriend
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 06:32 PM
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I don't care about kids as much as a real human connection tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 06:27 PM
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I don't see the point in rushing to dating when dating sucks and you'd do better to work on yourself but it's also not something to avoid either and waiting until 30 just sounds like a way to look really stupid when you're a grown man with minimal experience
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 06:26 PM
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Do feel like a decent chunk of men in subs such as r/foreveralone and r/virgin are pretty autistic so it would be nice if there was a way to be attractive to women despite being neurodiverse
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 06:23 PM
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For the good of both people involved, finances should just be separate, and then if you guys get divorced, then if you're the person making less money or who had less before the marriage, then sucks to suck. Don't see the point in sharing money past what is naturally combined, such as obviously you're both living together and both need to take care of the kids. Although if the woman is a stay at home mom or the primary caretaker of the kids and that has gotten in her way of being able to get a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 06:16 PM
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Not sure I have one but I guess Karen Gillian
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 06:10 PM
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I'd rather be fat and make a decent wage than be poor. Taking this isn't account an overweight woman doesn't necessarily have to be unattractive and you still can get male attention where as a poor man won't have the respect of any women, so it's an easy choice. Just feels to me like a broke man is the obviously worse choice
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 06:07 PM
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Because men are the ones who say it's easier for women on dating apps. If anyone is saying women have it so easy because they get so many matches, it's probably not other women saying this. However, I do wish this could go both ways because it's always men getting called out by women, but I don't see any women taking a step to realize how dating as a man isn't so easy either. It legitimately can be harder when you get no matches than it is to take multiple matches and filter them down as if wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 06:01 PM
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I agree, but I also feel like that's where the debate comes in because those aren't a majority of men, so there should be ways to filter out the people who are only wanting sex and then you still have a couple of good men leftover where as the men saying that have nothing so while I'd rather not deal with the bullshit personally in a wider statistical sense there is a certain power in being a woman on dating apps that is hard to deny
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 05:47 PM
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I'd agree most men aren't creeps and so I'd rather be a woman because the chances of the bad things happening that they say probably isn't as high as they think or if it is then I think they're filtering for the wrong stuff because if women are mainly going for tall rich men online then they clearly aren't filtering for personality (not that this applies in real life daring because it's not like all fat, ugly, poor, etc. Men are universally single) However, I do kinda get the idea that you never…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 05:42 PM
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I feel like they know men don't have many, if any, options. The point is more so that people think women do when out of these hundreds of guys that match them a lot of those men could be too old, not financially stable (living with their parents or something), the only seek something casual, etc. I don't feel like that's unfair either because you can't really assume most men have the best intentions in online dating. Although I still think I'd rather be in the situation where you have more match…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 05:36 PM
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I feel you. If I ever get some pussy I'd feel so emotional just to finally have one success
/r/AllPillDebate09/05/23 12:10 AM
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That is weird af. No one should be going to the extreme of faking their death to get away from someone nor would that even make sense as something that'd actually work because they'd just contact other people who'll tell that you're alive
/r/AllPillDebate09/05/23 12:02 AM
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Because people complain that 80% of women only want 20% of men so make it so that people can't match too far put of their height, income, etc. brackets and that complaint no longer exists and then we'd need to find something else to blame
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 11:40 PM
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Idk how dating app algorithms work, but they should prioritize things like matching people of equal incomes and stuff so that the people matching are as close to the same level as possible
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 10:58 PM
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No way rareness doesn't play a role. Otherwise, the standards wouldn't feel like they've risen so high
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 10:50 PM
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I wish they'd just make it legal everywhere. I see no reason for it not to be
/r/AllPillDebate08/05/23 04:09 PM
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I've had zero women be attracted to me, and I'm 23 now, but I still don't feel like it would compare to having a crime committed against me.
/r/AllPillDebate08/05/23 04:05 PM
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They probably do just ban all men, which saves a lot of time, but sadly, we can't just ban all women...
/r/AllPillDebate08/05/23 03:42 PM
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Is this taking attempted into account or just actual successful suicides? Because unless that's just a myth they say men are better at suicide then women and with fire arms being the most common method I'd agree Although in the minds of most people not looking at the data they probably assume it's mostly just teenage girls cutting themselves or taking a toaster and trying to suicide in the bathtub but failing
/r/AllPillDebate08/05/23 03:40 PM
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Yeah... I feel like some guys who are celibate wish they were raped and we see that when men defend women raping little boys but I think if they were actually victimized they'd realize it's probably not a good thing and also that there are bigger problems out there (not that there problems aren't valid tho.)
/r/AllPillDebate08/05/23 03:31 PM
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Have you been raped? I've never been, but I feel like even if that and not having attention from a singular woman are equally painful that it's not a good descriptor. Like both can be mentally damaging and make you feel powerless, but one is a victim of real-world violence, while the other is more a product of society being shit. Being unable to get pussy won't give you PTSD or anything like that. It just doesn't feel equal in circumstances, even if both suck ass
/r/AllPillDebate08/05/23 03:29 PM
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As much as that annoys me, I don't think it's impossible these dudes just have ugly faces and shit social skills. Although since we know height and stuff are important then if someone is a tall white involuntary virgin, it feels to me like they probably aren't using their advantages. Would've thought they'd be in a better position than the rest of men, and I see so many of them on r/virgin who fit that description, but it probably severely hurts their chances that so many people there have autis…
/r/AllPillDebate08/05/23 01:00 PM
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Sounds fair to me. A lot of the female privileges overlap with pretty privilege because most of the value placed on a woman comes from her attractiveness rather than how smart or strong she is.
/r/AllPillDebate08/05/23 12:49 PM
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I'm not sure I'd take a YouTube couple as evidence, but I think what I will say is that there's a chance that if you have a legitimate disability then some people will be more sympathetic of that than just if you're born with bad features, so I agree. You'll probably still get strange looks and get told you're ugly and whatever else truly ugly folks experience. However, if I was mean to someone or had offensive thoughts and they told me they had a medical reason for their deformity and there's n…
/r/AllPillDebate08/05/23 12:40 PM
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Given how most people reference incels I think normie incels doesn't really fit that, but personally, that's where I am. I'm a total failure with women, but I have zero hate towards them and would never justify violence. I'm just an average guy who can't get a girlfriend
/r/AllPillDebate08/05/23 03:03 AM
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Sex toys are just meant to make things easier and are not a replacement for actual sex, so I don't really see the issue
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 02:47 AM
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I feel like the top 20% could differ between women, but even if various groups of women will have their own idea of what the ideal man is, there certainly is some overlap or a general idea so it's definitely not super subjective either.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 07:44 PM
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30+ percent is definitely when it starts to get unattractive on women, although I also am not like women need to be under 15% in the way that men probably should be
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 05:36 PM
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I think the proper way to define fat is going to medically depend on various factors as far as how much it impacts your health, although as far as using fat to say I won't date morbidly obese women that'd be the point where it'd be a turn off for me. I don't mind an overweight woman, but there obviously are limits
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 05:27 PM
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It's probably a good idea. We can make general assumptions, but the whole point of dating is to get to know each other better, and so going based on their specific actions or values will probably determine how they might react to different things. With the more conservative woman I probably wouldn't assume there's as much a need to push things and can feel better taking things slower if she is someone who doesn't just have sex on the first date. While with the other woman who is obviously more l…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 05:12 PM
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I think it's just about keeping up a timeline. For example, if the goal is to have sex by the 3rd or 4th date, then probably should kiss her on the 1st or 2nd. The issue is that you don't wanna make a girl think you're uninterested just because you're not making moves quickly enough (as well as you wanna be able to just confidently go for it without asking directly)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 04:53 PM
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Feel like being too patient is also a red flag, tho. which is where the problems are Otherwise I'd just say the ideal time to have sex is when two people mutually want it and there doesn't need to be these rules about how if it doesn't happen by the 3rd date she's not interested in you. Maybe the woman did have some one night stands, but different relationships will progress at different paces.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 04:50 PM
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When you put it like that, I don't see why anyone would keep doing behavior that doesn't seem to be working out. Although I feel like man with flowers and women with sex are some differing situations, and I'd think after so many attempts, I would've expected a person to learn their lesson quicker, so idk Tbh I have less issue with the idea that people change, and its more so that I'd hate to be the guy they change things up with. If everyone else paid a lower price of entry, and suddenly, when I…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 04:12 PM
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Idk if this is the case that most men are willing to wait, but seeing how often it comes up that women lose interest when you aren't making moves, I know while I wouldn't mind waiting I'm not going to try and wait
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 04:05 PM
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I feel like it was already known that men are easier to please than women. Not that orgasms should be the one and only metric of good sex but with the stats and fun facts people bring up regarding how women don't cum from penatrative sex as well as the importance of foreplay it'd make you think it's definitely easier to be sexually satisfied as a man
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 08:35 PM
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I am in agreement. Hard to be niche when doing the things that maximize your value would get you more matches, and men hardly get matches online to begin with
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 02:52 PM
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I don't see why we'd need to make it cool for men to be with multiple women as if the high value men who would have multiple women can't just be single. Only way I could see this benefitting men is being more open to the idea of multiple men being with one woman and then maybe lesser men could be like the side dudes but that wouldn't really play out well either I also have to question how you deal with breeding in harem situations. I guess it's only for the richest men but I'd be very concerned …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 05:38 PM
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Tbh, I'm over marriage. Don't want kids atm, and I don't think we need the government getting involved in dating and sex and relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 05:28 PM
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I definitely think it might be rough, but I'm not sure if it's something to be doomer about either. I'm sure those single childless old people will find a way to get by.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 05:25 PM
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I guess most women just aren't into most men then. Nothing new but obviously there's the whole thing of people saying women don't cum from PiV and so you have to do foreplay. I guess if she actually was super into you that you didn't need to take all the time to warm her up, that probably would be a good sign she's actually really into you and not just settling for an option that isn't close to her favorite
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 05:15 PM
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I think there can be some overlap with Red Pill and misogynistic views, but I don't think assuming people who are RP hate women is helpful to anyone. At least not to the men with legit grievances.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 04:38 PM
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If I haven't asked her out yet, I'm not going to blame a woman for taking up another man's offer, and I'd feel good if she chose me over him. However, I think while it doesn't matter either way, the woman who waits, I assume she knows what she wants if she is expecting you to ask her out and therefore not dating other men. (I also think you could insert body count into this argument where the woman dating another guy and you winning the competition might have a higher body count, but that feels …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 08:46 PM
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I'm not sure if rural America would be your best bet, and that's Western. Also, I'm not sure we could generalize all European countries, but I definitely do think you're better off here than maybe in Africa or Asia
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 08:38 PM
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I 100% agree. I mean... we all know that no woman wants a virgin man, and that especially goes for women who sleep around, and yet they wouldn't want you to be mean to them for their sexual history while they bully you for your lack of one
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 12:44 PM
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I'm not gay but I'd even go as far as wanting to have sex if it were with Henry Cavill and I'd be willing to be the bottom
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:53 PM
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Public toilets? I couldn't imagine even having a simple conversation in the restroom. Like I'm just trying to do my business lol and not socially interact. Although streets and bookshop seem more acceptable
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 05:38 PM
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I don't agree that being approached by gay men is insulting but tbh from that perspective gay men making approaches on other men is almost worse because at least with men approaching women you can assume she's more than likely straight even if she's most likely going to not be into you. Although it is pretty bad that things have gotten to a point where women have to worry about being murdered where as I don't think I'm worried about gay men getting violent upon rejection, not to say it couldn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 05:32 PM
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I don't think you ever can be someone else and dressing well, being outgoing, working out, increasing your finances, etc. Should just be normal life goals that everyone has regardless of if it'll get women or not. Although the fact that these are things women want and if what you're doing isn't working, then why wouldn't you try to be different than you currently are if what you're currently doing is failing?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 05:00 PM
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