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I mean you just told me you suck dick better than her.
/r/seduction17/06/26 06:14 PM
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A lot of stuff is literally just to get someone to bed, most pickup advice stops at shooting your load. However, I honestly don't think a lot of guys even think that far either. Take Misery Method for an example. I believe it is A3, where you get her to qualify herself (it might be A2, honestly cannot remember), you remain vacent until she has qualified herself, then you finally show interest. Its all fake, an act. At least until it isn't. Once you actually start screening the woman, and it stop…
/r/seduction17/06/26 01:40 PM
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Just enjoy her humor, it ain’t a competition. She probably sucks dick better than you as well, does that bother you the same way?
/r/seduction17/06/26 12:14 PM
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I would say, interviews and dates are not that different, apart from one has a focus on getting a role and a salary, the other is focussed on a more intimate kind of relationship, That said, body language, tonality, frame control, etc, come into play in both, albeit different ways, IE. a lot of people enter an interview with the frame of "I must prove my worth" and put the interviewers on a pedestal, where as it might be more effective, to view the interviewers as equals and have the frame of "L…
/r/seduction17/06/26 08:09 AM
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I would go into sales not some geeky IT job.
/r/seduction17/06/26 07:40 AM
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I mean, I don't do anywhere near that many approaches. But on the other hand, I am not complaining.
/r/seduction16/06/26 05:31 PM
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Ironically if people bothered to use the search bar, there would probably be no new posts.
/r/seduction16/06/26 03:09 PM
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Someone I follow and pay a lot of attention to, at least used to market themselves as “The Inner Game Guru”, the word just stuck. Criticisms of this place aside, the search bar is great however, there is gold buried here.
/r/seduction16/06/26 03:05 PM
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I just “gurus” as if I start naming people, I am just gonna recieve hate, and people will miss the point and just focus on a fact I am saying more than “be confident bro”, “just talk to her”. I am in a couple of Facebook groups run by said “gurus”, tge vibe is totally different and people actualy want to learn and improve. This place, is mostly surface level bullshit.
/r/seduction16/06/26 02:57 PM
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Agree and amplify
/r/seduction16/06/26 02:22 PM
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I know I drilled into OP, but old mindset regarding new "gurus" back from days in a Lair. Guru worship was not allowed, it was "showcase where what they have taught has helped", bare minimum was a field report, ideally you would post an action report or lay report.
/r/seduction16/06/26 01:49 PM
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Theres a balance to be had. Yeah going in on blind luck, works perfectly for naturals. For others yeah, they may be clueless and need a basic "structure" or have a few glaring issues that are obvious to everyone except them. However.... as per OP, there is no need to over analyse or read too much theory. Hell just take a basic structure, and practice, practice, practice. Leave the theory alone at that point, you have the structure.
/r/seduction16/06/26 12:27 PM
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I have no idea mate, what guys "with half a clue have been doing", I just do what works for me. whatever bro. have a good un. Go write a book or something.
/r/seduction16/06/26 08:50 AM
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One of my first girlfriends WAS a bartender who I hit on whilst she was at work. As for non verbals, that all comes from your internals, if you are non congruent, they will be shit, if you are congruent, they will take care of themselves.
/r/seduction16/06/26 08:38 AM
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I’ve always been more of a night game person, for me it was transitioning from what I was able to do drink to be able to have the same confidence about myself whilst not drunk. Yeah I got a bit carried away with the innervgame stuff, but a bit more self esteem never hurt anyone. Direct Daygame has always just seemed like ping ponging from woman to woman ti me, no actual skill, granted nerves of steel and I have known people for whom it developed into serious relationships so take my views with a…
/r/seduction15/06/26 11:29 PM
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Paul McKenna has “I can make you charismatic” hypno track, yeah it’s not the same but probably an ok substitute. Not sure on what else there is on that site, but can probably be substituted regardless.
/r/seduction15/06/26 11:13 PM
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The only way to practice opening is by opening, there is no shortcut. I would say the main thing if you have “approach anxiety” or “analysis paralysis” look for ways of making it manageable Not sure what you mean by “non verbals”, thats kind of vague.
/r/seduction15/06/26 11:01 PM
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Cool, write us a field report about the stuff you have tried. Like if it works and its good, why do you need Validation from reddit? Whatever anybody else thinks of it, or does not think of it, if its working for you, it will still work regardles.....
/r/seduction15/06/26 10:35 PM
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Why don't you try it yourself and give us a field report?
/r/seduction15/06/26 10:16 PM
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So is there anything actually NEW ? Just seems a rehash of well known PUA stuff.
/r/seduction15/06/26 10:14 PM
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Give us some field reports and highlight specifically where his stuff worked. Sell it to me,
/r/seduction15/06/26 09:46 PM
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They have a bar, I can still have a drink or 2. Yes if I went in and did not have a drink either, it would be weird. But guy sitting at a bar, slowly sipping a drink, not really that strange.
/r/seduction15/06/26 09:14 PM
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As far as my mate goes. I know we had our differences.... but everything aside, I hope he is in a better place now. From his FB, he seems a totally different person, but he is also part of the past now. If our paths cross again, it will depend on who he is now, not the past.
/r/seduction15/06/26 07:28 PM
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A lot of women are turned off the moment they can sniff that you’re “running game.” Women crave a genuine connection. What is "running game" to you. Part of me "running game" is being present in the moment, actually listening, feeding back what she has said, and having a genuine curiosity about her, wanting to learn more. "Game" is just a phrase for skill with women. Granted I think you specifically mean "Mystery Method" or something like that.
/r/seduction15/06/26 07:07 PM
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And I think closing with the stripper without paying them is definitely a sign of good game. I had a mate who made this their obsession, in fact it actually got annoying as it came their go to whenever they were having a shit night. They would want to drop everything and go to a strip club. Don't get me wrong, I am for it at the start of the night, for a social warm up, but if I am getting somewhere with someone and he is not, demanding I drop everything and go to a strip club is a cunt move. Th…
/r/seduction15/06/26 07:03 PM
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Sorry, am not OP, but do have a copy of the book somewhere, so know what it is. I cannot be arsed to hunt it out, but there is a hypno track for the "setting your life goals" challenge, that is provided as a URL mentioned in the book, hosted on that now non-existent site.
/r/seduction15/06/26 06:57 PM
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I did watch the Stripper and hired guns video set by Mystery but never found any need to use his routines.
/r/seduction15/06/26 06:20 PM
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It has been recommended by several “gurus”. To me it did not set off any alarm bells, so I thought “what the hell, let’s give it a try”. And then basically did what you just said.
/r/seduction15/06/26 06:17 PM
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N o Iam being deadly serious. The whole "Stripper" is a construct, a persona of hers. It is not real. All you have to do is connect with the "real her". On another note, how the hell can people on this sub, of all places, never have heard of "Stripper Game".
/r/seduction15/06/26 05:21 PM
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I don't see why night game and stripper game have to be mutually exclusive. I prefer it for warm up. The 8's and 9's in bars become 5's and 6's. Also "poor women trying to make money", I have seen a Romanian dancer (this is pre Brexit) make 2K off one guy in 1 hour and he kept buying her stuff. The only issue I had was he was a 6.5 foot biker dude, and did not like it when she had a bottle of "his champagne" with me. So yeah, befriend the bouncers as well. Or learn self defence "in the field". I…
/r/seduction15/06/26 05:19 PM
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Well that’s what “Rules of the game” basically is. Day by day challenges, granted some will need to be modernised.
/r/seduction15/06/26 04:48 PM
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Shit... totally missed that word in the heading.
/r/seduction15/06/26 03:21 PM
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Why do you class talking to another human being as "heroically socially bold"? You are building it up in your head too much. You are just going to chat with another human being, that should create much less friction.
/r/seduction15/06/26 03:19 PM
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You are on about Pre-Selection, not social proof.
/r/seduction15/06/26 03:13 PM
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Confidence Drugs: L-Theanine, if I go through a break from the game and my skills get rusty, I do some nights out having taken some L-Theanine then ween off it.
/r/seduction15/06/26 03:10 PM
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Firstly, I want to say, I understand what you are trying to say and yes... I agree. I also have an inkling which post manipulated you into posting this. Yes... everything is manipulation. Hell you making this post is manipulating me into writing this. Anyway more on manipulation later. Sorry, if I waffle on, just having a stream of consciousness moment, on your Ted talk points. Women want to be controlled Fully agree that is toxic. However, a lot of people, not just women, like to be led. Do you…
/r/seduction15/06/26 02:16 PM
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Check your DMs Long story short I focussed a lot on inner game, both PUA related (Ross Jefferies, Eric Von Sydow) and doing self therapy, meditation, visualisation exercises. Read books like "No More Mr Nice Guy", identified a lot of negitive beliefs I had. I could go on and on and on. It is an ongoing process. Life is just work in progress, But I went from suicidal to very happy with myself. I went from being socially anxious to normally being regarded as a "Gobby Twat" at work.
/r/seduction15/06/26 01:11 PM
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Keep that shit to yourself, maybe "not looking for anything serious.... at the moment"
/r/seduction15/06/26 01:02 PM
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Maybe she has a life. The funny side: A lot of guys "I can get messages but it never goes further" This guy "I have a girl is into me, wants to spend time with me, is initiating dates but I don't get text messages" Also, I would say she is using texting for what its supposed to be used for, logistics. Now on a serious note, does she answer if you phone or facetime her?
/r/seduction15/06/26 11:26 AM
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A lot, if I look back at the old me, I just cringe
/r/seduction15/06/26 08:37 AM
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Also I want add, I stated “the Mustery method”. There are many other methods and seduction theories out there. News flash: they all co exist. However if you are a complete noob and need to use training wheels, then mashing up methods will probably make things a bit more complicated.
/r/seduction15/06/26 01:38 AM
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Not who you are responding to, But every time you think a negitive thought, add a “up until now to the front”
/r/seduction15/06/26 01:24 AM
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I don’t consider myself lucky… it was a TV show… entertainment… It’s no different to watching the old How I met your mother on Disney+, then going out and trying some Barney Stinson stuff. Just because… A I can and B it’s funny.
/r/seduction14/06/26 11:43 PM
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All that’s missing is some hypno track I think.
/r/seduction14/06/26 10:18 PM
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If they get you out of your shell, who cares? I watched the old school “The pickup Artist”, I learnt a lot from it and had some good times with mates doing the challenges ourselves. At that point, what does it matter if it’s staged?
/r/seduction14/06/26 10:11 PM
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Cool, well if it works for them it works for them. What do you find works for YOU though, do you find it easier to pull if speaking fast or slowly? Also, the speaking slow and leaning back, wasn't the actual point I was making.
/r/seduction14/06/26 09:22 PM
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Stop watching theory, just get out talking to people, having fun. As far as the theory, goes, look back at a small snippet of it, in say 6 months time after you have some experiences. For now, you are just overloading your brain. For example, take Mystery Method. One of the things this teaches is too slow down your speech and lean back. This is only one small thing. But take this one thing, go out and talk to 40 people during the evening say.... over as long as that takes. Then take another smal…
/r/seduction14/06/26 04:46 PM
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Why are you calling them? Do you mean you call them because you are working from home? Or is it non work related stuff?
/r/seduction14/06/26 01:07 PM
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I'm happy you mentioned habit. Too many people seem to think this is one off thing, you do ONLY when at the bar, or doing Daygame, OR on a date. Nope... its a lifestyle thing... Reminds me of something RSDTyler said once, about men leaving the cave, getting a woman, then returning to the cave, when they should of carried on staying outside the cave.
/r/seduction14/06/26 12:20 PM
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Look, if I see a woman I like, I will give them chance to get to know me.... But outside that, I am going to be happy regardless. If she wants to spend time with me... I will be happy if she dosn't..... I will be happy. (I understand this is easier said than done, it took a lot of working on myself to reach this point). I am not making my internal state become controlled by how some woman responds to me. The strange thing is, once I adopted this mindset, approaching women became easier. Then bas…
/r/seduction14/06/26 12:07 PM
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Go on Google, see if there are any improv classes in your area. Not only does it help become more spontaneous, but one of the key things is celebrating failure. So you stop caring if you are on point or not. Mess up, so what, you get a pat on the back and a round of applause.
/r/seduction13/06/26 09:36 PM
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Eric Von Sydow (Hypnotica) - Collection of confidence Will not teach you “techniques” or “routines” or anything like that, but if you do the 5 exercises and the hypno tracks, you will become a hell of a lot more confident around women.
/r/seduction13/06/26 11:06 AM
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That’s what I thought when I first read it.
/r/seduction13/06/26 12:03 AM
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The old Neil Strauss transformation picture speaks 1000 words, and as far as I know he did not get plastic surgery or anything drastic, he just made an effort.
/r/seduction12/06/26 11:52 PM
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Also, if you take 2 identical looking average guys. Take 1 of them and give them the belief that “I am not Chad, I am cooked, there is no point trying”. Then take the other one and fill his head with a belief like “the world is full of women with broken hearts and empty vaginas, I wonder which one is going to lucky enough to get me for the night” Despite looking the identical, they are going to interpret reality differently, interact with women differently, have totally different experiences. Th…
/r/seduction12/06/26 11:36 PM
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Let’s be honest, RSDnation was no different, it was virgins giving advice to virgins. I am not sure if I miss the overly detailed field reports from the old PUA forums, necernind the 2000 word essays on eye contact. That said there was a lot more gold to be found in the olden days. This place makes me wonder if some of the “basic knowledge” that used to be basics 101 was just something I hullicinated.
/r/seduction12/06/26 11:23 PM
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The black pill guys take it a step too far.. yes of course if you look like Quasimodo and are 3 foot tall you are gonna struggle. But to reduce every thing to looks and constantly repeat it like a mantra is fucking annoying. Also it totally ignores social status being able to be used as leverage. I know if I go on a dating app, I am wasting energy, time and oxygen. Instead of whining about how unfair it is, getting obsessed with “Chad” and referring to high school shooters as “the supreme gentle…
/r/seduction12/06/26 11:17 PM
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Please tell me you are looking for other women.... Also... go read "No More Mr Nice Guy" By Dr Glover.... it might help you in life
/r/seduction12/06/26 09:08 PM
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She wanted validating, maybe she had had a shit day. You validated her. Job done.
/r/seduction12/06/26 08:18 PM
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In 20 years do you want to look back, and think "I am really happy I never approached anyone". What about 30 years, 40 years, 50 years? What when you cross over, will you want to look back on your life and be happy you never approached and think of all the oppurtunities you missed out on?
/r/seduction12/06/26 07:23 PM
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You take time and effort and work on them one by one. Life is just work in progress.
/r/seduction12/06/26 04:32 PM
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OK, no shit sherlock, again, what is your point. How does thinking "Some things are not simple" make women want my cock in them?
/r/seduction12/06/26 01:15 PM
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Lets be honest, anything is simple really. Going into space, just sit in a shuttle. Winning F1, drive better than everyone else. Becoming a famous novelist, just write an amazing book. Anyway, what is your actual point?
/r/seduction12/06/26 12:26 PM
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Look for events that are not "hostel" events, but still have lots of people.
/r/seduction12/06/26 12:25 PM
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Yes..... like is it not normal.... get your T levels checked bro
/r/seduction12/06/26 12:24 PM
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Disagree, shit tests appear when a guy is incongruent. He is saying one thing but projecting another. Its just a subtle way of "calling someone out". Once you become more congruent and more confident, they generally stop happening, or at least that is my experience and the experience from a lot of guys in other groups.
/r/seduction12/06/26 10:38 AM
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Just because they don't approach YOU, does not mean they do not approach.
/r/seduction12/06/26 10:35 AM
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GFTOW
/r/seduction12/06/26 12:50 AM
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Yeah… the workplace is a great place for this /facepalm
/r/seduction12/06/26 12:49 AM
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Why do you care what other people think? Regardless of if I think men have it easier or I think men have it harder, it is what it is. Also if this stuff fills you with anger and rage, please seek help. This isn’t an incel sub.
/r/seduction12/06/26 12:45 AM
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I mean… in theory… yea it’s simple… it’s just people communicating… in practice…. It can be much more challenging
/r/seduction12/06/26 12:42 AM
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No worries, I generally do a guided "being grounded" track every so often, daily meditation (even if only 10 minutes). Then I have a guided visualization track going through the process of interacting with a woman, I find if I consistantly do that and visualise the same things, I find myself doing them naturally. I want to say its a cheat code, but its not really, whatever a person imagines, be it success, failure, rejection, etc, the mind turns into reality. So we are programming ourselves rega…
/r/seduction12/06/26 12:35 AM
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Honestly, goto where YOU want to go to, and build your own memories to look back on. Liverpool was last weekend, so for me, its still present in my head.
/r/seduction11/06/26 09:50 PM
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Congrats on discovering "Inner Game".
/r/seduction11/06/26 08:59 PM
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Stop being a validation factory. Only give validation, if it is genuine. And do not fall into the "covert contract" mindset of "I gave you validation, where is mine". On the darker side of things, if you take away validation altogether, they will crave it more. But that is naughty.
/r/seduction11/06/26 08:58 PM
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My honest take, is nightgame is brutal, but can be worth it, IF you enjoy the social aspect of it. You say you are in the UK, so I am guessing a University City, just go on Meetup dot com and find some events near you, drop along and talk to people. Forget seduction for now, just get used to the social aspect of life. If that does not appeal, then no offence, but putting yourself in the same social situations, and putting yourself out there, is going to feel 100x worst. I can preach all day abou…
/r/seduction11/06/26 08:56 PM
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Oh well its back to the "A girl smiled at me 1 time, could I get laid" posts, how fun is that?
/r/seduction11/06/26 08:47 PM
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What is the OP advertising?
/r/seduction11/06/26 05:44 PM
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Nice read and congrats for taking action and getting out there. All I wanna ask, you say you want to be more present? What do you do before going out to get into the right state. I am no guru, but I have always believed “The Game starts before you leave your door”. So if I know I am going somewhere where I can and will be social, I like to do some sort of grounding exercise before I leave, be it a guided exercise by a “guru” or just some focussing on my breath and visualising success in both thi…
/r/seduction11/06/26 05:43 PM
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I am too far "Up Norf", for this to be viable for me. But the whole Brexit point, yeah it is very noticeable. A defo lack of Romanians, Polish and Lithuanian women in the UK.
/r/seduction11/06/26 03:52 PM
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Not OP. But have been there with the high approach volumes, key point here, to start out with. Like yeah, if I thought that was all there was to this, I admit I would of burnt out. But now its like a chill, happy with myself, I am confident in the belief that if I am somewhere where I want to chat to a woman, I can and will. It may not sound much, but for me initially, I had to do similar to OP and approach a lot of women and get a lot of rejections, to reach that inner belief in myself and get …
/r/seduction11/06/26 03:45 PM
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I wasn’t sure what to expect when I read this, but I agree 100%. Especially the status and social starus bit. Sure you might be some high status engineer at work amongst other engineers. But out in the field, that means Jack shit. Sure you may earn a lot, but unless you are using that money to live a flash lifestyle, ultimately it initially means Jack shit (granted if you want a lasting relationship, it matters, but this is “seduction” not “relationshipAdvice”). So what do people mean when they …
/r/seduction11/06/26 03:03 PM
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That's a question that can only really be answered by talking to her. If you did miss a door that was wide open, chalk it up to a learning experience regarding "pulling the trigger".
/r/seduction11/06/26 10:25 AM
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Please.... just talk to her.... just say hello. Short of getting down on one knee and blowing you on the spot, by the sounds of it, she cannot make it any clearer.
/r/seduction11/06/26 09:59 AM
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Sense of freedom, not knowing what to expect, so no building up mental movie in head. And yeah nobody knows you (see sense of freedom). So the challenge becomes "How do I create that state I have abroad when in my own country". Currently working on this, as although did not go abroad, just spent the weekend in another city, and the sense of freedom made all the difference for me. I just did not give a fuck.
/r/seduction10/06/26 09:59 PM
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I really want to argue this, but someone I used to know was in a metal band, they met their now Wife, by going and saying "I want you sit on my face, then bend you over and fuck your ass". I mean I think the whole metal band gave him an advantage... but still....
/r/seduction10/06/26 09:46 PM
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Game is like plastic surgery, you only notice it if it’s bad.
/r/seduction10/06/26 09:22 PM
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I watch with interest… people watching is more fun. Also I like to make my prediction on how it’s gonna go and see if I have an accurate read. I am more of a night game guy myself, but I have upmost respect for daygamers. There was some survey thing done years ago and a common response from guys was “i would rather die than do public speaking”, so a guy who can approach a woman in The middle of the day, stone cold sober gets my respect.
/r/seduction10/06/26 09:09 PM
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Well said sir.
/r/seduction10/06/26 09:05 PM
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I don't get the question. Am I over 30? yes Have I had problems with dating before? Well no fucking shit Sherlock, I am on the Seduction sub and have read "The Game" and studied/practiced various systems. You don't do that shit, if your dating life is 10/10. Now all that aside, I have also done a lot of Shadow Work, so have confronted Religious Upbringing, Social Anxiety as a kid, Bullying from said Social Anxiety, and other fucked up shit. No actually I do get it, do you wanna know what problem…
/r/seduction10/06/26 08:56 PM
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This information sharing thing cannot be stated enough. “If it has data points, can be put on a graph or PowerPoint presentation, don't say it” - Ross J
/r/seduction10/06/26 08:16 PM
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Are you new to Reddit?
/r/seduction10/06/26 07:43 PM
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Why "never"? I disagree with saying compliments for the sake of compliments, but if they are genuine, I see no reason to hold back?
/r/seduction10/06/26 06:56 PM
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Some people are quite happy over complicating and over analyzing everything. My real question to OP, was when was last time you actually approached a woman?
/r/seduction10/06/26 06:31 PM
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And elbows: "you have the sexiest........ elbows ever", always gets a laugh and good response.
/r/seduction10/06/26 05:13 PM
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You are overthinking what is basically calls an icebreaker
/r/seduction10/06/26 04:07 PM
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Yes maybe they should.... you know that, I know that. But when you are in a cycle of bad mental health, things are not that clear. Especially in a world where it is the norm for friends/family to tell you, you are fine the way you are and BS like "You just need to meet the right person", "There is someone for everyone", etc. However telling someone "Hey you are an anxious mess" is probably not the easiest thing to say and have land well.
/r/seduction10/06/26 03:32 PM
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I will be honest, if someone is anxious, feeling isolated, lonely, possibly depressed, If find saying "Just be yourself bro" or "Just be confident", kind of cruel to be honest. It says a lot about the sociopathic and lack of empathy who get off on saying that shit to people who are probably in bad mental head space.
/r/seduction10/06/26 02:50 PM
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Its almost as though seduction itself is seductive.
/r/seduction10/06/26 02:48 PM
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You might be flustered. You might be at a complete loss for words. You might struggle for conversational topics. You might want to flirt with her but not know how. You might think you need permission to try, you might feel yourself hesitate a lot. This is why I hate stuff like "Just be yourself", "Just be your best self", etc. If you are experiencing what you just described, that "advice" is not going to help.
/r/seduction10/06/26 02:00 PM
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The seduction game is real in that the women that want to be/are willing to seduced, you will develop the skillset to do so. Also a lot of average looks guys are not as “ugly” as they believe. Someone else has already mentioned social media. The amount of actual Quasimodo type guys is a lot lower than reddit would have you believe. Finally social skills come into play. We live in an era where people connect with their phones more than tgey do other people. Even basic improvement on social skills…
/r/seduction10/06/26 11:08 AM
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You need to find an outlet for that energy. I went through similar experience, sadly how I overcame it, probably will not help. I did the whole "Rad The Game" thing, got some wingmen, ran an actual Meetup Group basically for PUA (think it was called "Men's Dating Group" or something. Anyway when younger, I had flunked university. This is key for this story. Also I am a bit older than you (not that that is relevant). I was laid off from my job (stock prices had dropped overnight, and last in, fir…
/r/seduction10/06/26 08:58 AM
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Eother read or listen to “My Secret Garden” by Nancy Friday.
/r/seduction09/06/26 08:08 AM
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Yeah but the guy I responded to made it sound like all he was doing was getting a number. It read as opener then number Without a connection (which can be built over instant date or location bounce) there is no reason for her to answer. Hell no reason to give correct phone number either.
/r/seduction08/06/26 08:26 PM
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So because a woman might find you more interesting than whatever mundane thing she is doing, you decide to deny her that enjoyment. Edit: Please develop some self worth, if you think time with you is that worthless.
/r/seduction08/06/26 08:03 PM
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Are you building any connection ?
/r/seduction08/06/26 05:55 PM
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Go for instant date if day or bounce if night. Getting a phone number means Jack shit
/r/seduction08/06/26 05:54 PM
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You know what I find the whole fear of “making someone jealous” stupid. Reading some of these comments. Say I am with a woman and a waitress or someone starts chatting to me. Ok it might make the woman i am with keloid. But you know what, I am not going to repress myself, or become a fake person, or refuse to talk to people just because someone cannot handle their emotions. I know this advice is cliche and can mean anything but “be yourself”. I am not a giy who refuses to talk to women, it is no…
/r/seduction08/06/26 05:47 PM
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They are not "hot girls", they are people, with their own insecurities and issues. Remember that and take them off the pedestal. Its just ANOTHER person.
/r/seduction08/06/26 03:51 PM
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Yeah defo. Ever see 2 women and one is chatting to a guy… the other is probably bored and/or jealous… approach. Having a boring interaction with someone… mention other women, maybe it will work, maybe it won’t, but it will probably become more interesting.
/r/seduction08/06/26 03:45 PM
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Google “Bitch Shield”
/r/seduction07/06/26 08:16 PM
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I like having some control of my life. Sitting back, doing nothing, and expecting women to do all the work, will get me nowhere. Yes, I can shout and whine online about how unfair it is. But that also... will not get me anywhere. Also... go read some books on evolution theory.
/r/seduction07/06/26 08:00 PM
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OK... you took action... so 10/10. You made some dumb ass comment... well boo fuckin hoo get over it, Go out and take more action... work on the lessons you have learned from these approaches.
/r/seduction07/06/26 03:02 PM
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Do you go to the same venues? Befriend the staff, build some social proof!
/r/seduction07/06/26 02:47 PM
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However, I still get about zero looks and smiles in clubs and bars, and wonder why. Is it maybe because I am usually going solo, and not integrated in any groups? And what would you do in such a situation? I mean, the logical approach would most likely be, approach still anyway, but that cant just be the ideal way, there has to be some way to improve presence. As someone who does solo, what actually ARE you doing if you are not "approaching" anyone? Are you still talking to people? Just go up to…
/r/seduction07/06/26 02:27 PM
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Yes you can get an eye for things, but I would not say it goes as far as you imply. Also if you are thinking that heavily, you are probably stuck in your head instead of being present. “The man stuck in his head, isn’t going to get any head” - Ross J
/r/seduction06/06/26 05:36 PM
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This
/r/seduction05/06/26 06:59 AM
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So the question is “how to learn” . It’s almost as though having a “learning strategy” is almost as important as everything else. This is yet another one of my issues with the Misery Method.
/r/seduction04/06/26 10:07 PM
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Fully agree I really need to get back to journaling. The patterns become more obvious.
/r/seduction04/06/26 08:33 PM
1

Do you have any friends that can help build you up confidence wise to talk to women?
/r/seduction04/06/26 07:10 PM
2

Can I take a guess at RSD or Lovesystems.
/r/seduction04/06/26 07:07 PM
1

Cannot say I am surprised, I honestly believe half the guys just need to touch grass consistently and their issues will solve themselves.
/r/seduction04/06/26 06:58 PM
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I would like to think that if you are going out and talking to women and/or people regularly, you will develop a sort of sixth sense where you can use past experiences as reference points and figure out if what a person is saying is BS or not.
/r/seduction04/06/26 05:21 PM
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The idea is you go out into the field, try your own things and look for patterns yourself. “Game” is more like guys sat around a campfire sharing stories, than it is objective truth. Then there are coaches like JT Tran who do accommodate specific cultures.
/r/seduction04/06/26 03:51 PM
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I seem to get it every so often when I goto a Turkish barber and get the full works. God forbid a man cares about his appearance.
/r/seduction04/06/26 03:45 PM
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Even if you are in a relationship, you should at least be upskilling your social game or doing "catch and release".
/r/seduction04/06/26 03:15 PM
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"If I say I am gay can I play with your tits"
/r/seduction04/06/26 06:32 AM
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There are plenty of Facebook groups, but they mostly come under specific schools of thought. So e of them, run by the “Gurus” may also require you too have purchased a course. The ones that are free, however… are mostly just advertising. Some Facebook groups such as “May The Frame Be With You” which have dropped in content since the hostile take over, at least do have good historical posts if your search skills are upto speed. As Reddit is easily accessible by anyone, although there are some goo…
/r/seduction03/06/26 07:10 PM
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I goto social events on meetup… even though you say you don’t drink, at least in the uk people still meet-up for non drinking socialising events be it over food or just visiting places. I generally goto the evening events in bars though so cannot really comment on the brunch meet-ups or meals, etc.
/r/seduction03/06/26 06:57 PM
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I generally thank them for their time regardless. I don’t just walk away mid sentance. Like at least give them a chance ti respond.
/r/seduction03/06/26 03:43 PM
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I don’t care if that is true or a story to teach a lesson, but damn that is powerful.
/r/seduction02/06/26 07:38 PM
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Have bookmarked your site by the way. Thanks for sharing that resource.
/r/seduction02/06/26 06:18 PM
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The reality of seduction is that it is sisyphian. I am personally more inclined to believe that result A correlates with result B once you have master the basics and dont shoot yourself on the foot with bad inner game (as in your examples). This was the only time it was clear to me that focusing on pulling and/or interacting with women was messing up my inner game so badly. My new mindset is just to enjoy myself. However this does not mean I do not interact with other people nor does it mean I w…
/r/seduction02/06/26 06:15 PM
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Yeah...but it wasn't..... however this was the first time it clicked for me. I generally go out once a week, the Friday AND Saturdays are rare. So this festival taught me an important lesson.
/r/seduction02/06/26 06:06 PM
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OK, so how can you enjoy and focus on the process, and just be merely interested in the results? Again question for you. Women can smell this sort of stuff a mile off.
/r/seduction02/06/26 05:28 PM
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Do you even WANT to hang out with them one on one. Or do you just enjoy the validation when in front of peers? Do you have desire towards these girls? Thats more for you to dwell on, than to answer me.
/r/seduction02/06/26 05:24 PM
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No matter what you do.. someone is gonna be against it. You do not need approval or validation off of random people who bitter, miserable and/or jaded. Fuck em. You do you.
/r/seduction02/06/26 03:00 PM
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Why are you setting up meets with women when you have the flu?
/r/seduction02/06/26 02:39 PM
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Nicely played
/r/seduction02/06/26 02:18 PM
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You are over analyzing. Either approach and say something or just do nothing. Thats when you will start picking up an intuition on who is approachable and who is not, Oh and bloody good job in losing 25 lbs.
/r/seduction02/06/26 08:47 AM
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Someone always to go to extremes. Anyway am in full agreement. Saying something boring with enthusiasm and passion trumps saying something in a monotone where you do not seem passionate or interested.
/r/seduction01/06/26 08:46 PM
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Congrats for stepping out of your comfort zone.
/r/seduction01/06/26 06:51 PM
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There are plenty of voice tonality exercises online (use google) and make it a regular habit.
/r/seduction01/06/26 01:14 PM
1

When was your last boyfriend? Why does talking about the specifics of the last boyfriend help?
/r/seduction01/06/26 12:33 PM
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I show that I am interested in them, I focus on them and ask about them. I do not make it all about me. Most people talk about themselves, don't be like most people.
/r/seduction01/06/26 12:10 PM
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Thoughts, beliefs, vibe, confidence, etc. Where as outer game is what you say and do. Inner game, is more about what is happening in your head.
/r/seduction01/06/26 08:32 AM
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Ross..... I know he had a bad rep, but about 70% of his stuff is inner game. The long winded patterns are a thing of the past.
/r/seduction01/06/26 08:31 AM
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Ross..... I know he had a bad rep, but about 70% of his stuff is inner game. The long winded patterns are a thing of the past.
/r/seduction01/06/26 08:31 AM
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OK, firstly I want to emphasize I am only talking about myself here, I am not a spokes person for all "cold approachers". At one point I used apps a lot. Yeah I could get matches, I could get invites over to women's houses. But then when I turned up, I was an anxious mess, my social skills sucked, never mind my "seduction" skills. Later in life, I moved to a new city, and met a bunch of guys who were into cold approach. We would meet up weekly, be it in the city Centre (Nottingham, UK) or we wou…
/r/seduction31/05/26 07:38 PM
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Only speaking for myself, but I enjoy the cold approach aspect. Granted I no longer go out “just” to cold approach. But I like having the confidence to take action. Making an app profile “better” to me at least , just does not appeal. I get no sense of attraction or any interest to a catalogue of photos. I would rather just have a shower, put on some decent clothes and goto a nice bar. If nothing else I can just talk shit with strangers, bar staff, door staff and maybe do some people watching. B…
/r/seduction31/05/26 05:49 PM
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Over time i would say people hook faster. But it’s hard to say for anything… it’s more of a “in general” is this getting easier and am I enjoying it more, as opposed to it getting harder and me not enjoying it more. Same as the gym, same as clothes, same as anything really.
/r/seduction31/05/26 05:43 PM
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Nope…
/r/seduction31/05/26 04:50 PM
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This is why I preach inner game being more important at least initially than "what to say". Granted, it can become a never ending rabbit hole if you are not careful.
/r/seduction31/05/26 04:00 PM
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The thing I want to add about cold approach, is it builds confidence and social skills (at least in my experience). Where as if you are an anxious mess and get a date on an app, you will still be an anxious mess.
/r/seduction31/05/26 03:58 PM
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I just don't enjoy talking to people on Apps. Its just a photo and text, I cannot be enthusiatic or care enough to even want to meet. Put a woman in front of me though, whom I feel attracted to and I will put in effort. No idea if one is worst or better, think its more about what works better for YOU.
/r/seduction31/05/26 03:43 PM
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I honestly have no idea. My approach to this stuff is not "learn theory then practice in field". I will spend a bit of time not even every day, just practicing saying this stuff, and improvising on the fly. After a while it becomes internalized and I just do it naturally. Some guys may be able to do it, read theory, then go straight out and use it. But for me to do that, I would be stuck in my head, as opposed to being present. So I need this rehearsal phase. But at that point, I am not really p…
/r/seduction31/05/26 03:36 PM
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Opening was enough for me. Yes I will chuck in routines, patterns, gambits, now and then. But trying to work through it, challenge by challenge. Just did not suit me. After a while I was just started using situational openers or having the confidence to be direct. So I could never stick to the exercises, in the order it describes, That said, the sections on Group Theory and a few other things, changed the way I saw things.... for the better. Also.... at first, it did not seem robotic.... however…
/r/seduction31/05/26 08:29 AM
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No More Mr Nice Guy is amazing for inner game, somewhat shocking though, as I swear that book was written about my life.
/r/seduction31/05/26 06:49 AM
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I enjoy going out to social events, my city has various things going on through out the year. I enjoy talking to people. Sitting there. staring at my phone, sending messages, I just find boring. So yeah I prefer cold approach.
/r/seduction31/05/26 06:20 AM
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I see what’s happening that week then propose something from there. I am gonna have fun regardless, if she dosnt turn up, that’s great I can work on my “approaching” (talking to other humans) skills. So it’s a win win regardless.
/r/seduction30/05/26 07:30 PM
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Yeah no shit, I mean what does it consist of. I go for instant dates in the spot or if nightgame bounce to different venues. So a “good set” for me can last 1 - 3 hours. Where as if I just in, Open and ask for phone number, yeah there is no time for anything deep.
/r/seduction30/05/26 07:27 PM
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What do you talk about to lead their imagination, think about sex and then anchor those feelings to you?
/r/seduction30/05/26 07:25 PM
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What does cold approach mean to you? Give me an example of one?
/r/seduction30/05/26 07:22 PM
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I prefer fractionation. It’s a bit more advanced than push-pull which seems to be one liners. Instead of pushing and pulling, think about emotional states. Then swap between. So you may talk about a death for a bit, then swap to some mega holiday you went on then back to the death and how your best friend was devastated, and so on. When you pull someone out of an emotional state then put them back in it, they go in deeper. So it could be “getting it on” and “rejection”. Anyway just Google push p…
/r/seduction30/05/26 07:03 PM
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The word did not exist, but it existed in other forms. Go read or listen to the memoires of Jacques Casanova. Sure its not called "Game" but its full of game.
/r/seduction30/05/26 04:05 PM
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Where is the manipulation? Where did I say I disappear?
/r/seduction30/05/26 03:56 PM
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That is too much common sense for Reddit.
/r/seduction30/05/26 03:54 PM
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You have your experiences and beliefs I have mine. Mine work for me, if yours work for you then cool. You seem to view dating and relationships totally different to me, so nothing to discuss further. I do not view a girl saying "We are not having sex tonight", then changing her mind later, as manipulation. To me its just plausible deniability. They all say it, it means nothing.
/r/seduction30/05/26 03:49 PM
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I dont think that it just comes down to the fact most women dont fuck on first date especially a high value ones "I don't normally do this", "This is so unlike me", "You can come back to mine, BUT we are not having sex", blah, blah, blah.... plausible deniabliliy Obviusly, I am not gonna say: "So Debbie, I want you to think about how wet you get when a throbbing cock is jammed in you". That would be a bit too direct. However, I might bring up the topic of sex and relationships, and say stuff lik…
/r/seduction30/05/26 03:27 PM
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Getting a good volume of girls i like to date me is not an issue but the thing is I am not intrested in relationship right now. most girls wouldnt fuck you on first date second or third and it can take time (at least where i live). OK, you do not make them feel horny or safe with you. I can see why that is a problem. Not to mention some girls you need to manipulate into thinking you want relationships so of them are really pushy about it so it makes me uncomfortable. You do not know how to hold …
/r/seduction30/05/26 02:56 PM
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I am actually going to say Psycho-cybernetics by Maxwell Maltz. No its not a PUA book, but it heavily influenced some of the early "Gurus" including RSD, I am sure this book was mentioned obsessively.
/r/seduction30/05/26 02:42 PM
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Why do you need to be stuck in your head, just rehearse and internalize it. Frame control, yeah initially its something new. Then you spend about a week walking around, casually talking to people, trying on different frames, until it becomes natural. Not sure what Todd V teaches, but rather than be a leaf in the wind, one of my general frames is "I am not your best friend with penis, I want to fuck you, but I also want you to feel safe". I might even adapt a frame where I believe (thus behave li…
/r/seduction30/05/26 02:23 PM
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A lot of guys try the mystery method and find it’s too robotic trying to run their routines. Mystery was a professional magician and had a powerful stage presence and ability to be a captivating speaker, so he had a lot of the inner game and charisma by default and didn’t need to dive into that. I was fine with Misery Method UNTIL I focused on inner game. I am not saying Mystery Method does not work.... far from it.... it is fucking powerful once internalized and it happens naturally. But I foun…
/r/seduction30/05/26 02:14 PM
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How good you are at attracting and seducing women. If women run screaming for the hills = No game If you can consistently attract and seduce women of beauty = Having Game Then we have technical vs Natural vs No Game Game Technical = following a set structure and it sounds like a science paper Natural = You have internalized a load of technical stuff either knowingly or unknowingly and do it without thinking about it No Game Game = You shouldn't have game but you do. My short fat jobless mate who…
/r/seduction30/05/26 02:04 PM
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I constantly reached this point when I did Hypnotica's "Collection Of Confidence" on challenge 3: Approach 20 women a day, just say 1 or 2 things and eject. After a while I became non needy for female validation. Ironically, it was this point when sets really started hooking. But I would only approach if I was genuinely attracted. And I really did not give 2 shits how interactions went. Again, this seemed to make them hook even stronger. For the "Looks are everything" crowd, my looks did not mag…
/r/seduction30/05/26 08:50 AM
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If it consists of facts, figures and/or can be put on a power point slide, don't go there.
/r/seduction30/05/26 07:33 AM
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Fully agree, life in general became easier for me after I spent some time cold approaching. Especially dealing with managers and co workers.
/r/seduction30/05/26 07:23 AM
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Depends if we were seeing each other regularly or someone I had just met. If it were someone I had just met I would just reframe and move on to something else.
/r/seduction29/05/26 09:01 PM
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Whilst I agree.... if someone is a noob at this.... they probably need to get over fear of approaching before defining their method.
/r/seduction29/05/26 01:13 PM
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Agreed, it puts the on spot, where they have to make a split second decision, rather than warming upto you and feeling safe. That said..... if it works for someone, and they enjoy it.... then good for them. Just personally, not my cup of tea.
/r/seduction29/05/26 01:11 PM
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I only do this if I am already getting IOIs. Also I mainly approach when it is night game, so women are in groups. I am not a massive fan of Misery Method. However, I do agree with the group dynamics part. If you do not have the approval from friends its a no go. So for me I engage the whole group. If a woman is with a friend who is otherwise engaged (ie being hit on by another guy and ignoring her friend) then yeah I will be more direct. Also finally.... if I do go direct, I will make sure I am…
/r/seduction29/05/26 01:10 PM
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I occasionally go day drinking with my friends though the nearby city, but due to lack of socializing with women on a consistent basis, I often get really nervous and pussy out. Work on this.... or move to nearby city
/r/seduction29/05/26 10:45 AM
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I might not do an approach every day, however I do make it a habit to at least start a random conversation with a stranger at least once a day.
/r/seduction29/05/26 09:08 AM
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Fully agree... When I first got into Seduction and Game, I was basically running Misery Method Flash Game... so it was high intensity and would get strong reactions, and also cause the rest of the people in the venue to turn their heads. Granted I misunderstood what this was meant to be used for (becoming "the observed", as opposed to actually attracting). I have since then, started using more boring game. My whole game has shifted to displaying genuine curiosity about a person. Yeah its not as …
/r/seduction29/05/26 08:51 AM
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I mean they just said it reduced their anxiety. Being an anxious mess will not help either.
/r/seduction28/05/26 06:29 PM
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I want to say "soft rejection".
/r/seduction28/05/26 05:36 PM
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If it was normal, everyone would be doing it and it would be less effective.
/r/seduction28/05/26 03:12 PM
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Good man. Years ago, I was made redundant, and took the first job I got offered. It was shift work and it destroyed my social life. I ended up getting a second degree through Open University (UK accredited distance learning). As it was either make myself more employable or just forget ever having a social life ever again. I dunno how people do shift work.
/r/seduction28/05/26 01:41 PM
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I would honestly advise looking for a new job or accept this is your life....
/r/seduction28/05/26 01:26 PM
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Create new habits... You get free time during the week away from work right? What times can you slot in the gym, what times can you slot in social activities, even if it is just getting used to going to busy places and saying hello to people (at least to start with). And give yourself free time so you do not burn out.
/r/seduction28/05/26 01:02 PM
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Start with small social interactions whenever you can. You say you are getting anxiety hanging with old college friends. Did you just stop socialising with humans after college? Seriously, forget women, forget flirting, forget dating, forget testosterone. Learn to be yourself and not feel anxious when talking to people you know/have known. Are you anxious 24/7? If the answer is no, then you are not being yourself. Yes it will be uncomfortable. But what is the alternitive. I am gonna be blunt, th…
/r/seduction28/05/26 11:10 AM
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Whilst technically I do Night Game, I do not like the label "cold approach", like lets be honest I am just a guy that likes talking to women, and if I feel attracted I am not afraid to act upon it. However, ping ponging from woman to woman does not appeal to me, like I have known some guys to. Granted if you are starting out, there will be an element to this. Whilst I agree you need to work on yourself like someone else on here suggested. But.... even if you are good on paper... if you are not p…
/r/seduction28/05/26 08:57 AM
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So how many women do you have approaching you daily?
/r/seduction28/05/26 08:52 AM
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Because you are the one saying how the content should be more catering. Be the change you want to see. Write about your own seduction experiences and give field reports that lean towards people from your background. It’s easier for you to do than probably me or someone else to do.
/r/seduction27/05/26 08:30 PM
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By the way if you want actual "workable advice", I advise you to look elsewhere other than this sub. It is a joke.
/r/seduction27/05/26 06:33 PM
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I never said I was the majority of people who read the sub and I am not even sure what I am wrong about or even correct about. I keep asking you questions which you dodge. Anyway I am not even sure what you want or what your purpose is. Like, what is your purpose on this sub?
/r/seduction27/05/26 06:30 PM
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Yeah mate you keep saying this happens and keep saying “tge data”, what is your point. In an ideal world what would this sub be like… to you? If it were how you wanted?
/r/seduction27/05/26 06:10 PM
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I stil don't get your point. If you want stuff aimed at low income or different cultural backgrounds, start creating content. I am from the UK, all my experiences are in the UK and other places in Europe. For me it is impossible to write stuff for immigrants as I have not lived that experience. Everything I have experienced is unique to me. What are you actually wa\nting/expecting. I am confused tbh
/r/seduction27/05/26 05:05 PM
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Not sure why you are downvoted, the community does seem to have shifted into slagging off women and blaming them for anything, as opposed to “how to improve your social skills and seduction skills”. Not saying the community was full of gold previously, but there were diamonds amongst the shit. Now it seems even worst.
/r/seduction27/05/26 08:30 AM
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Look for inner game stuff. No idea on podcasts though… not my thing.
/r/seduction27/05/26 08:23 AM
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Look at it as an adventure to see what can happen. For now stop thinking about relationships, just focus on having fun, meeting women and seeing what happens. Props though for taking effort to journal.
/r/seduction27/05/26 08:15 AM
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Just be discreet and make it clear you are not looking for anything serious. Where as a single woman will have a giant list of requirements and tickboxes… a married woman will just want fun and sex. In some ways it is easier. That said, depending on tge husband there may be potentially violent repercussions.
/r/seduction27/05/26 07:34 AM
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What do you mean by "Does it work"? If I remember correctly, "The Cube" is a comfort phase thing (years since I have touched Misery Method). So the purpose is along the lines of : "The routine builds intimacy by asking a woman to describe a series of imaginary items in a desert (a cube, a ladder, a horse, etc.), transitioning the conversation into a deep, personal connection." Anyway, back when I was into Misery Method, yeah, it took conversations from surface level to something deeper, so yeah …
/r/seduction27/05/26 06:40 AM
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I think the difference is, "lifting heavy and eating protein" more or less guarantees results. Cold Approach and Social skills have a level of ambiguity, that is not present in other activities.
/r/seduction27/05/26 06:34 AM
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Not who you responded to but 100% agree. Its like the boxing gym, the idea of training is not to win titles, its to give you a better chance when it counts.
/r/seduction27/05/26 06:28 AM
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Have you put as much effort into learning to date abd actually seduce as you did in learning to approach?
/r/seduction27/05/26 06:23 AM
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A man might leave the Game, but the Game won’t leave the man.
/r/seduction27/05/26 06:21 AM
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Sorry I do not get your point. I am not from USA or Canada, I am from UK. It is not the job of the majority of this sub to pander to me. I do not expect a bunch of Americans and Canadians to learn UK culture and obtain seduction experience to the UK just to suit me. It is up to me to put info out there if I feel it is lacking. As for this sub I can take it or leave it…. The end.
/r/seduction27/05/26 06:19 AM
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Just become a nice guy.
/r/seduction26/05/26 10:42 PM
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Whilst I am a fan of “cold approach” I find that label sort of anxiety inducing in itself. Ever notice these guys who have to get “hyped up” to do an “approach”? What if you just thought of it as “talking to other people”, that already sounds and feels less intense, at least to me anyway.
/r/seduction26/05/26 10:23 PM
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Just lots of little things, none had a drastic impact in itself, but combined they all made a difference. Smiling when walking into venues or meeting people. Not hen pecking. If I am unsure what to say, just taking an obtuse leap of faith, being willing to blow it, so I can learn from it, rather than sticking in my comfort zone. Learning to colour match my clothes and wearing clothes that fit properly. Looking at my body language. Befriending bar staff. Learning to give myself 100/10 for every l…
/r/seduction26/05/26 10:14 PM
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Lets just say I have my own collection of "tales from meetup" stories. The last meetup event I went to there was some guy who was clearly socially anxious, it got even worst when women tried being friendly and speaking to him. I felt kind of sorry for the guy to be honest. But I have seen more than my fair share of creepy guys following the women around, not taking hints or just standing there and gawking.
/r/seduction26/05/26 10:08 PM
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I spent ages just going out solo. Don't get me wrong it definitely helped with confidence. But it was very hit or miss. Then I went down the whole "find a wingman" route, and that was more trouble than it was worth. It would either be a guy who would get with a woman then just disappear (like fair play to be honest), someone who let me open then barge in or the guy who women would ask "is he your friend" and when I said "yeah" they would clear off. Where as Meetup groups seem the perfect thing.
/r/seduction26/05/26 09:10 PM
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In full agreement here. Yes I still do "cold approach" solo, but I prefer going to a social meetup group, hanging iwth them, getting the social muscles flexing, then cold approach becomes 10 times easier, just start talking to random people. Like I say, I still do cold approach solo, but if its a Saturday and everyone I know is busy, and there is no meetup event on, yeah I will nip to some bars and open a few women, not even bothered about getting l;aid, its just more fun than sitting in on my o…
/r/seduction26/05/26 08:59 PM
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