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The idea that someone would date someone else for resources, when it's so much easier to go get a job and get the resources yourself, is sort of batty. Lots of people get a Toyota when what they really want is a Lamborghini Gallardo
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 04:35 PM
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Maybe we should just believe that if the person is with us it's because he/she wants instead of obsessively looking for "signs" Lots of people get a Toyota when what they really want is a Lamborghini Gallardo
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 04:33 PM
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: if the ex was so amazing, she’d still be with the ex! But! She’s not. S It could be she was madly in love with the ex and potentially is, but the ex is broke asf, or doesn't give her enough time, or she feels she doesn't really own him. The difference between the ex and the safe guy is like the difference between a Lamborghini Gallardo and a Toyota. It's like the dream car is a Lamborghini but she couldn't get it, because it's expensive asf, crazy hard to maintain and takes up way too much gas…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 04:28 PM
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How will shared interests, and values make her panties wet??? That sounds more like the kind of stuff men claim Disney brainwashed them into believing
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 02:58 AM
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Alpha and beta male strictly describes the dichotomy between big dick toxic energy and Golden retriever energy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 02:16 AM
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It's popular because it doesn't happen. It's fan fiction, it's a fantasy. Fiction Doesn’t Exist in a Vacuum One of the biggest defenses women fans use is: “It’s just fiction! Liking a problematic character and shipping him with the female lead doesn’t mean I’d tolerate that behavior in real life.” And while that’s true to an extent, it ignores a fundamental reality, If someone constantly gravitates toward relationships in media that romanticize jealousy, control, and emotional turmoil, it’s not …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 12:58 AM
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No "good girl" is falling for a toxic man. Isn't this usually the common trope in female erotica? A nice homely girl failing to resist the temptations of an irresistible evil man?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 12:53 AM
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It's simple really. The only reason we have toxic men in the world is because women select that trait. If we lived in a world where it was the Golden retriever energy type of guy who was leaving panties wet in his wake, society would be a relatively safe place because toxic guys would go extinct. Sometimes it's interesting how much women underestimate how problematic male behaviors are driven by female mate selection
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 12:50 AM
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Isn't the opposite of familiar, mysterious?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 10:40 PM
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Because it's only when they start off as platonic that you can be sure the guy gives a damn about the woman's well being. This nonsense of preferring unfamiliar strange mysterious men is what leaves them single mothered as the guy isn't nearly as invested. He'll just smash and be on his way leaving her with a pregnancy she shouldn't handle alone
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 10:32 PM
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Oh boy! I've got a bridge to sell you. Where shall we even begin? Yeah right.... Most women and girls reinforce the notion that nice/decent guys were preferred and bad boys/toxic dudes were deceptive mistakes that just happened. Men aren't entirely guilt free of this because they then think that since women are complaining about the toxic abusive dudes that they don't like them or will start going after nice decent guys, a false assumption many guys make. However, women never go on to correct th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 10:29 PM
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I'm having trouble understanding whether you're trying to convince yourself more than you re me
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 10:13 PM
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It's why his your fiance still. Who knows maybe the union will collapse on its feet before y'all even get to the altar
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 10:10 PM
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And you wonder why it never worked out💀
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 10:08 PM
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Do you feel you are in a position to decide how attractive a man is to women? There is such a thing as objective beauty. Hope this helps admit you don’t feel that women care about looks. I do agree that looks matter, but not to the extent many assume it does. Strip a handsome guy of his personality and give him a boring pushover needy type of personality and come back to me and tell me if he'd still have the same success rate as opposed to him possessing some dark triad traits. I'll wait
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 10:08 PM
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Isn't the keyword here the fact that you are straight? How is the irony lost on you🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 10:04 PM
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Idk what meeting in high school has to do with anything. That was more about how much women's preferences and inclinations were counterintuitive. They think meeting a strange mysterious Chad is likely to have a more success rate only to be slapped by reality in the face
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 10:01 PM
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What else would they start out as?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 09:59 PM
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I want you to reread my earlier comment this time a bit more slowly, and focus on the qualifier I used.... "It seems women don't value friendships in relationships..." It's weird that you think friendship is overrated and useless just because it doesn't lead to sex. I mean considering women look at their male friends like ugly toads they'd never ever touch sexually even if the world was ending, I don't thinks it's far fetched to say platonic friendships are overrated
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 09:59 PM
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The oddest thing about red pilled men is their inability grok that women, who are the same species, also possess a sex drive. What makes you think Redpill dudes don't know this?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 09:56 PM
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Like I said it's not about the looks entirely. Give a handsome guy an agreeable soft personality and you'll see him pull no bitches, I had a Friend who was 6'4, very nerdy, shy, soft and mild mannered and handsome asf, even shorter more aggressive less attractive dudes pulled more bitches than him. He lost his virginity at 24. While looks do play a factor, it's not the end be all. If my friend had some dark traits, I can just imagine the kind of harem he would've been basking in. A dude can be a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 09:55 PM
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I've never really thought it was about looks, not entirely atleast. Otherwise fiction would reflect that. The truth is that it's more about the personality so to speak. A handsome guy who comes across as harmless and agreeable isn't gonna wet many women's panties, but give him some dark triad traits and you've got yourself a panty remover
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 09:41 PM
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I've never really thought it was about looks, not entirely atleast. Otherwise fiction would reflect that. The truth is that it's more about the personality so to speak. A handsome guy who comes across as harmless and agreeable isn't gonna wet many women's panties, but give him some dark triad traits and you've got yourself a panty remover
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 09:35 PM
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You'd be surprised. Men even have sex with animals
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 09:31 PM
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I've never really thought it was about looks, not entirely atleast. Otherwise fiction would reflect that. The truth is that it's more about the personality so to speak. A handsome guy who comes across as harmless and agreeable isn't gonna wet many women's panties, but give him some dark triad traits and you've got yourself a panty remover
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 09:29 PM
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From this thread. It seems women prefer meeting a mysterious Chad over falling for someone who's more familiar to them
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 09:26 PM
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Doesn't sound like a good idea but maybe that's just my bias talking. Some of the most healthiest sweetest relationships I've ever seen were from high school sweethearts, I suppose that's boring for many women these days
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 09:23 PM
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Not when the option is to suffer a lonely miserable existence. Most women don't have to deal with the same level of loneliness that guys do, so it makes no sense when they choose poorly
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 04:47 PM
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the end of the day if a guy is attractive, whether hes good or bad, he'll pull women. Not to the same degree he would if he was a sleezy cheating womanizing bastard. This is just incel projection talk. The truth is the only women who are genuinely attracted to the type of guy you're describing are ones who are victims of poor relationships stemming from their childhood with their parents and family I used to think that in my bluepilled days. I used to think that bad boys and toxic men were just …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 03:14 PM
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Different strokes for different folks. I'm not remaining friends with anyone who thinks I'm ugly. Male or female. Just because you can doesn't mean everyone else has to
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 03:09 PM
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I mean isn't that kind of expected? Considering men have very few options to choose from?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 03:07 PM
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I don't get that perspective at all. What's so devastating about learning that someone finds you so wholesome that they would fall in love with you??
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 08:05 AM
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No no, the reason I even brought that up, is because I see plenty of ugly dudes with attractive women who beyond all intents and purposes are way above their league usually only after a certain age tho
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 07:41 AM
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I’m certain you can find that in an ugly woman without options, which is exactly the fate you’ve been wishing upon women. I can find it in an average woman so why not. Besides if she's ugly, atleast those traits would make her somewhat attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 07:39 AM
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What cancer The blue pill has for long tricked men into thinking that aspiring to be a stable loyal partner was a good thing, not knowing it was only conditioning men to a woman's backup plan after she's gotten the seed of a hot toxic man that she simply isn't able to resist because evolution. Men also reward those qualities and practically deify athletes, political leaders, and actors. Because of their ability to pull women duh... Men will glorify a worthless looser simply because he's able att…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 07:36 AM
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A life of drudgery with an indecisive follower with poor social skills isn’t ideal, either. So I suppose a cheating abuser is atleast better? I can get behind that. men who lack the fortitude and social acumen to pursue women who are actually attracted don’t make good mates or good fathers I'm a bit skeptical about this. I have seen a lot of men who didn't do very well with women in their twenties suddenly get married in their 30s despite not much if their personalities changing
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 07:30 AM
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I suppose nature intended it this way then. Which means that toxic men are simply giving women what nature programmed them to want. This is not a hard sell, I suppose alot of men can get behind this idea, the only hindrance is the blue pill cancer that's permeated society for so long
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 07:27 AM
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I guess anecdotes and tropes don’t always reflect reality If that were true, most fictional wouldn't sell. The only reason that they sell I because they are relatable to a big part of their audience And it’s strange asf how pressed you are about being proven wrong, is it an ego thing or? I'm not pressed, I wrote that with a good cheekish smirk on my face, don't worry. I never wanna hear that women are less logical… I mean what women are attracted to seem to tell a different story, look at the si…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 07:24 AM
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Nope, just you, yelling in the same echo chamber you constructed this morning. Idk, I've routinely heard around here that disagreeable men are hot, but hey maybe I'm wrong. Obviously both the abandoned children and the mothers who stay the course and sacrifice their entire lives to raise children deserve consideration and respect, vs the deadbeats who run away. Considering they chose those deadbeats even in light of their options, sometimes victim blaming is justified. A life of sexual and domes…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 07:20 AM
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I guess the women online are just lying I guess. I suppose enemies to lovers is not a trope that women fan girl over, I suppose men's hesitance to confessing said feelings is all a lie to
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 07:06 AM
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Men are incentivized to run away from parental responsibilities by cultural and legal standards which permit abandoning their children. I thought women didn't like agreeable men who take responsibility? Don't women talk all day how a rebellious dominant guy is hot?? Like the man who lives life on his own terms regardless of what ppl think if him? Isn't this what women considering an attractive man who knows himself? Take note of how freely and comfortably you use the phrase “single mothers” inst…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 07:04 AM
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I’m not sure you realize what a disturbed and ugly idea you propose, to somehow ensure that four billion humans suffer a life of demeaning and degrading sex just so a few unappealing men can be happy. That's not at all what I'm suggesting. What I am however suggesting, is deconditioning women from being turned on by dangerous toxic abusive cheating womanisers who don't make for very stable households. It would end the singlemother/baby mama epidemic, it would make theRedpill influence disappear …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 06:56 AM
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If they were so interested, they should have approached with that, instead of leading me to think that they really want to be friends. Then I could have rejected them without already building a bond and it wouldn’t matter if we continued speaking or not. They really made think that we were buddies, who looked out for each other and had each other’s backs, just for them to drop me because they actually had ulterior motives. The only person who is really hurting is the person who gets blindsided b…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 06:46 AM
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I mean most dudes I've seen that are successful with women tend to have a personality like Brad from the show sexlife, why do you think heartbreaks and infidelity are so common? popular men as admirable rather than “toxic”. The reason toxic dudes even exist is because toxic dudes are more successful with women, how this is debateable in women's heads is still surprising to me considering they admit that their preferences change with age? A man with loose morals is more likely to succeed in life …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 06:33 AM
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Brainwashing through media could never erase the biological urge to choose the fittest mate, and that means choosing a male partner with symmetry, physical fitness, strength, and leadership qualities. I'm not entirely swayed with this idea that it's about looks. If you take Henry Cavill and make give an agreeable personality golden retriever energy, he wouldn't pull enough women as composed when he shows off some dark triad traits. what in the world makes you think that human women with free wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 06:28 AM
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Sentencing women to a lifetime of servitude to a man they aren’t attracted to is an inhumane and hateful idea. I mean either way, unless women can somehow evolve or their preferences shifted some way, toxic abusive dudes are going to be here to stay. So where does that leave us?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 06:19 AM
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Hasn’t happened in human history, not even in spaces with arranged and forced marriages, where presumably a woman’s parents select for a peaceable and loyal partner. India is one of the worst places for women with inordinate rates of rape and domestic violence, and arranged marriages are the norm. Arranged marriages are not the solution simply because all they do is just surpress what the woman wants/or has been condition to want by Hollywoods depiction of toxic men. Brainwashing through media w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 06:17 AM
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How? I'm simply saying it's like comparing apples to oranges. For the argument to hold water, men would have to have the same amount of options as women for the criticism to be valid
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 06:13 AM
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The difference is that doesn't create a problem in the way toxic men being a turn on does for society. Most toxic dudes are simply a case of demand breeds supply. You tank down the demand and the supply goes down right along with it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 06:12 AM
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Society didn't invent monogamy. Men invented monogamy bc without a majority of you would never reproduce or have sex. You would be the eunuch or the cannon fodder for a rich man's war. That I agree. How would you propose brainwashing women? To find ugly guys attractive? I don't even think it's entirely about the looks. The type of personality also plays a crucial role. I think perhaps using media to brainwash women into finding stability, safety and the golden retriever energy more attractive li…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 06:07 AM
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I'm simply saying the disparity in pool selection doesn't make it a fair comparison. You can't hold a kid who grew up poor to the same standards you would a privileged trust fund baby
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 06:03 AM
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I'd think that was a straight forward yes or no question?🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 05:54 AM
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How would you even enforce that? A lot of human innovation and invention for most of human history was propagated by men's desire to find mates and reproduce. Society had to invent monogamy to incentivize dudes have otherwise excellent talents but not attractive faces or dangerous enough to turn women to have a stake in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 05:51 AM
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I mean sure why not? Ppl are more likely to be honest in anonymous forums. Furthermore there's literal movie tropes and anecdotes from various social media posts, comments, books, of women hating their guy friends developing feelings for them. There's not an equivalent case for men complaining about their women friends catching feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 05:48 AM
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Because I thought it was false and I don't really think you believe it either
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 05:46 AM
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You created and arrived at a narrative that women just want evil bad hot guys I think watching a show like sexlife would put things much better into perspective. You'll get what I mean by that. It's "not the same when men do it" Because of market forces. When a man ends up with a bad woman, he's not criticized as much because men in general have a smaller option to chose from compared to their female counterparts. So a man ending up with toxic partners seems more of a case of making do with a sm…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 05:45 AM
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Men vocalize their feelings about women all the time Has it ever occured to you that it maybe more performative toxicity than it is how they really feel about women??? I rarely ever see them say something positive about women as a group. Like I said, they don't want to come across as a simp/decent guy/golden retriever guy, because thanks to the Redpill, they now understand why toxic men get laid the most. A lot of dudes who are successful with women are more like Brad from the show sexlife. When…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 05:15 AM
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don’t really believe men simply enjoy women’s company after viewing how many of them speak about women. Those men would be the exception not the rule. You're confusing bitterness to how men really feel about women. Men do enjoy women's companies they just hide it, and mask it for whatever reason. I suspect that a big part of it is because of women's attraction triggers. Like I think at their core, men know the kind of men that women are intensely attracted to, the reason men don't vocalize their…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 05:05 AM
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Men don’t fall in love with their female friends. Lol. It's very rare that a guy will enjoy a woman's company and think she's a decent person and only want to fuck her. Are you not aware of the mechanisms that make fall in love with a woman? Have you been living under a rock or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 04:35 AM
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If my male friends thought I was ugly, ofcourse they'd be no friendship there
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 02:09 AM
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Ever heard of giving someone the benefit of the doubt or is this a foreign concept to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 02:08 AM
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Maybe men with low sex drives. Not necessarily. High sex drive does not equate to a thirst for variety? Where did you get that from?? You can have a high sex drive and only find sex enjoyable with one particular woman and fuck her several times a day almost every single day. Typical men prefer to experience a much wider variety of women, I think that has more to do with an ego boost and less to do with sex drive. Men enjoy sleeping with multiple women not for the sex itself, but a more about how…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 02:06 AM
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Are they or are they not your friend? Idk how I could know someone thought I was ugly and still be their friend They wouldn’t be worth calling a friend if they didn’t act like they enjoyed your company lol. They wouldn't be worth calling a Friend if they thought I was ugly. There I fixed it for you. Why do you think that someone not wanting to fuck you means that they think that you’re repulsive I can't wrap my head around enjoying someone's company, being single, having similar personalities an…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 02:01 AM
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but they still see that you’re a cool person worth being around. Lol. I'm not sure even how to respond to this. I don’t see why you would take someone not being attracted to you but still wanting to be friends are as an insult. How can you not be insulted when your friend thinks you're ugly? You guys ask for too much sometimes you know
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 01:36 AM
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I've interacted with enough women to know that a lot of women have a predisposition that makes them want to seem like good people, that's why they rarely admit uncomforting truths , they rather sugarcoat it, over-explain and just play around with words to faux nuance to make something seem less terrible than it is. Everyday on this sub literally proves this
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 01:33 AM
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Very few people marry their first love; both men and women have a few failed relationships or false starts in their past. It’s part of growing up and it’s no big deal. Considering women initiates breakups more and are drawn to excitement and danger in relationships in a way most dudes aren't, it's not really a fair comparison. Most men if it came down to it, would love nothing more than to marry their high school sweetheart, I don't think women have the same predisposition tho, perhaps through n…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 01:18 AM
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I mean you're basically agreeing with me, that if a woman doesn't date you or develop feelings for you despite enjoying your company, she probably finds you unattractive asf. Men are routinely accused if only befriending beautiful women, it seems women befriend ugly dudes. So in a way a woman's friendship with you is kind of insulting in its own right, coz it just means she thinks you look like a toad or smell weird
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 01:14 AM
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I'm just saying, women's predispositions just make it more likely for them to end up in relationships that don't work out. It's like the things that are involved for them in the mating game, are all counterproductive to their end goal of having long fulfilling relationships. So it's no surprise when they end up getting abused, cheated on or just the relationship not working out
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 01:05 AM
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I'm saying that if a man enjoys a woman's company and thinks she looks good, it'd be very hard for him to not develop feelings for her. Women don't seem to have the same predisposition. They enjoy polarity too much for this to be case
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 01:02 AM
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Ok. I suppose this is one of those instances where men and women defer biologically. Nice talk tho
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 12:55 AM
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Finally an answer that makes sense and doesn't sound like virtue signaling
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 12:52 AM
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I don’t see why anyone would share with a friend that they would never date them. I wouldn’t want to know that information from them lol. It has nothing to do with our friendship or maintaining it. It would be quite awkward to share honestly because what are you even supposed to do with that information? Helps put things into perspective. I mean it's better to know if your friend thinks you look like a toad and smell like shit
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 12:51 AM
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Do they know you find them ugly and would be grossed out at the idea of anything ever developing? Or you don't think that's a necessary information to share with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 12:45 AM
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Some? Sure, but a blanket statement on all because of erotica? Yeah that’s a leap. That’s all I’m saying. Idk men, the only woman I've ever known that a had a series of healthy relationships that only broke apart because either 1.) partner moved to a different country because of career, 2.) she wanted kids, the partner didn't, 3.) partner got amputated and so became a cynic and ended the relationship, 4) partner died after an accident. Was only one woman, and the crazy part is her fictional pref…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 12:43 AM
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Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 12:33 AM
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A lot of Hallmark films feature male love interests who aren’t assertive and are sweet and quirky. They're usually targeted to women who are above 30 and ready to settle. It's not uncommon for women's fictional and real life preferences to shift with age. Which keeps in line with trp's AF/BB concept. majority of them don’t read eroticas Didn't the book sell like millions of copies??? Now a lot of women are content with real life I think a lot of women find themselves in the shoes of Billie Conne…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 12:32 AM
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I slept with the guys I was attracted to immediately. The friends were (1) guys I was never attracted to, or (2) guys I didn't like fucking. I suppose friendship in relationships is really overrated and useless from a woman's perspective
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 12:21 AM
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No. I have highly attractive, all the 6’s, everything friends. I genuinely am not attracted to them. Not at all. Lemme guess, you want mystery, you want passion, and even a little danger. Lol women are quite amusing creatures tbh They are people who are good people and we have common interests and I am not attracted to them because they are friends. Does that mean you're not friends with ppl you date? Sounds like a recipe for disaster
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 12:20 AM
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I mean the admissions from this thread doesn't seem to support this assertion
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 12:17 AM
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I would never befriend a guy that I wanted to potentially date. With that kind of logic is it really surprising that most women's relationships don't work out? I mean how else, is the relationship supposed to go long term if you don't care about being friends with your partner? Sounds like a recipe for disaster by all measures
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 12:14 AM
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You’re over complicating things. Lots of boyfriends are kind and emotionally available and reliable. Considering most women do end up experiencing heartbreaks, or getting cheated on I find that. Little hard to believe It’s not just the bad boy that gets the girl. You're right. But if I were to bet money on who is likely to get the girl between a bad boy and a golden retriever type of dude, it seems pretty clear that golden retriever doesn't hold as much of a pull from women compared to his rebel…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 12:12 AM
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So it's less likely to be there because of the golden retriever energy or are women simply just more likely to befriend dudes they don't find attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 12:09 AM
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The women who exclusively date friends are a minority and there are plenty without that requirement. Well no wonder most of their relationships fail to stand the test of time. How women envision going long term without being friends with their partners is just beyond me
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 12:08 AM
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I mean are they not tho? Most seem to date atleast date one asshole at some point in their lives
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 12:06 AM
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(I find one of my closest male friends very attractive physically, but we have very different values for long term, Do you think if you values aligned long term you'd be open to falling in love. Or is he just a friend, so it's gross?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 12:03 AM
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Oh so women mostly do befriend ugly dudes. Gotcha
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 12:01 AM
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I don't that's true at all. Give the tall dude the personality of a pushover, and you'll see the woman feeling just platonic friendship with him
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 11:57 PM
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The one who's company you most enjoy and the one whose life goals align with yours, and you find attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 11:55 PM
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Assuming that all women read eroticas, the same type and it accurately reflects what they want in real life is such a massive leap. Well what I would say is that ppl don't fantasize about things they find repulsive, thats the boring nice dude is never an object of women's desires on this stories.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 11:54 PM
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Some of these things you may never know or find out when you're already married with kids. Performing extreme due diligence is simply par for the course before you reach that point otherwise you are just asking for pain. Women like to just do things because vibes
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 08:39 PM
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But anyway the strategy of making friends and then trying to turn it into relationship is a loss of time, 9 times out of 10 you are only putting yourself in the friendzone that way. If you are attracted just as her out sooner than later, you most likely don't win her over by being purely platonic friend first. So does that mean the best way to avoid being in the friendzone is to get of that golden retriever energy? I feel like thats what is causing women to develop an almost instinctual maternal…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 08:27 PM
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It would be cool if you’d stop trying to redefine words. What words did I try to redefine? Exciting means he’s sexually exciting, it doesn’t mean anything else regardless of how badly you attempt to twist words to fit your manifesto. I get that. But from experience, boring has only ever been used to describe a spineless goody-two-shoes agreeable man. I've never seen it used to describe a dark triad evil guy. Doesn't being an evil, morally ambiguous man make it less likely for one to be boring? t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 08:15 PM
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Right so all this means is that gooner men actually want to fuck cartoons in real life, right? What’s good for the goose… Huh? I'm having trouble understanding where you got that from or how you arrived at this conclusion. Genuinely curious Being guarded and cautious about sex isn’t repression, it’s common sense. Sexuality is a private thing. Why should sexuality be private? Unless ofcourse there's something to hide in the 1st place
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 08:10 PM
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So what I'm getting from you is that if a guy develops feelings for his girl best friend along the way, there is no point in addressing those feelings because the woman 9 times out of 10 had already disqualified them from a relationship from the get go? I think that when we meet there is a window of time to create some romantic tension and if you fail to do it you get into purely platonic friend category I like this explanation. It gets to the heart of the matter as to why many women's relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 08:03 PM
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Men have the same option to ignore or reject bad people. Theres a reason solitary confinement is regarded as punishment. Women don't have to deal with the same level of loneliness, so it doesn't make sense for them to choose so poorly unless either women are dumber in general, or they can't simply help being drawn to bad men If he’s flirty, fun, and attractive, he’s exciting. If he’s a bad, untrustworthy person, he isn’t exciting, he’s a problem. Judging by the number of single moms I find that …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 07:54 PM
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Odds are your brother was the one who caught feelings first
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 07:45 PM
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Women have been very vocal about what we want. Men just choose not to listen. They used to listen, that's how simps are made, by listening to what women say they want. Most men's dating problems are rooted in listening to what women say they want. They get barraged with anecdotes of women complaining about toxic abusive men and then think because women are complaining about toxic cheaters that they don't want them, that those guys were just deceptive mistakes that just happened instead of recogn…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 07:44 PM
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Like we can just be your friend, treat you kindly, actually like you as a person, and still not want to have your genitals inside of us. I suppose women aren't drawn to familiarity the same way men are. For you guys, attraction seems to be more about polarization. It's weird in a way. It's almost like Womens' attraction to a man feeds off of emotional polarity. if a guy is a good guy, nice, stable, he is going to be less polarizing for a women. this will be misconstrued as "I just don't feel a r…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 07:17 PM
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I'm suggesting that if the women I'm friends with was good company, was a decent person and I found them attractive, they'd be no reason for me not to catch feelings. The only way I could think of is if I didn't find them attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 07:10 PM
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Ow I doubt that. I think it's often the case that guy's redflags were the exact shade of excitement they craved at the time. Men are a little bit harder to criticize on this front simply because of the disparity in option. Dudes who get with abusive chicks do so out of necessity, to them having a shitty gf is better than dying a lonely miserable death
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 07:09 PM
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Men enjoy toxic male characters without shipping them with the female lead. How this is debateable in your head is just beyond me. Like literally everything you're exposed to on a daily basis proves this
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 06:57 PM
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So the friendzone? There is no world where I get attraction for a friend. They are in the friend bucket which means I don’t look at them as anything but that Is it because he's ugly or is it because he's not alpha enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 05:22 PM
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My female friends are attractive, decent people, and I enjoy their company. I don't want to date them either If you're straight why would you?? I'm not romantically interested in a guy just because he's attractive, a decent person, and I enjoy his company. That's just the basis of a friendship. What more do you want? Does he have to be mysterious? Have a criminal record? Be low-key toxic for you to get hot and bothered by him?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 05:21 PM
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Not really no. Men are not like that, maybe women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 05:19 PM
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What the fuck kind of question is this? Seriously. Do y'all not know how friendship works? I mean that's the only explanation I could think of if you fail to develop feelings for a guy who's company you enjoy, and who's a decent person. The only thing stopping those feelings from developing would probably be because you don't think he's attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 04:54 PM
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I suppose humans just can't control who they fall in love with. It's why women get with abusive dudes all the time despite the possible outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 04:50 PM
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Look at the thread, the ladies on here clearly state, how unlikely it is for them to catch feelings for their friends
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 04:48 PM
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Because he's my friend. Is he your friend specifically because you don't think he's hot? I'm not interested in my friends romantically. I mean sure I get that. It's no surprise, it's pretty counterintuitive. I'd like to think that being friends with your partner is actually a good recipe for a relationship but since I'm not a woman, I guess I wouldn't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 04:47 PM
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Are you suggesting that men magically develop attraction for a woman rather than befriending women they are already attracted to? That is exactly what I'm suggesting. You realize the friendzone nonsense is old enough to drive now, and women have heard men defend their unwanted, unrequited crushes for at least two decades now. Men don’t “accidentally” develop romantic and sexual attraction for their friends, they actively pursue women they already find appealing under the guise of friendship. It’…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 04:44 PM
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I mean the question is why is it less likely for a woman to develop that attraction to her friend as opposed to say a mysterious stranger? My running guess is women befriend guys they don't think are attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 04:01 PM
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Ah, so we’ve gone from ‘love isn’t just about kindness and emotional connection’ to ‘love is basically just sex with extra steps.’ I never said sex wasn’t important in a relationship. Of course it is. But let’s not pretend that attraction is some mystical, preordained force that either exists or doesn’t. The entire point is that emotional connection creates attraction and love over time, especially for men. That’s why guys are more likely to fall for their female best friend, while women need so…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 03:56 PM
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Ah yes, because acknowledging the moral conflicts that some men experience is obviously a secret plot to shame women for being human. Brilliant deduction, Sherlock. First off, nowhere did I say that women should be shamed for anything. What I did say is that many "good guys" struggle to reconcile the actual nature of female desire with the moral framework they were raised with. Society teaches them that being a "respectful gentleman" is the way to a woman's heart, only for them to realize that a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 03:49 PM
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So love is all about sex in your world view I take it🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 03:45 PM
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I know it may come as a surprise to you, but men do infact want to find women they can connect to and in the interest of complete honesty a woman they can do right by, a woman who inspires such devotion, a woman who provides him with an inner peace that he could never find anywhere else or with anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 03:44 PM
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The idea that abusive people present themselves like the characters in movies do is largely a myth. Abusers generally play nice until the victim can't get away. I'd wager this abusive guys' redflags were usually just the right shade of excitement that the woman craved at the time. Most men aren't that smart to be grand manipulators like you want to pretend. I've seen involve the girls just shipping the two dudes with each other. But that's a different conversation, lol. I'm guessing you've never…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 11:18 AM
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And on the flip side… men absolutely root for the antihero all the time. The golden age of prestige television was built up by men rooting for bad men: the Sopranos (Tony Soprano), the Wire (Omar), Mad Men (Don Draper), Dexter (the titular serial killer), and of course Breaking Bad (Walter White). It's not so much an issue of liking bad morally gray characters, there's a difference between liking an evil guy like T-bag vs rooting for him to get an endgame with the female lead. Hope this helps
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 11:13 AM
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Being into abusive men and being a victim of domestic violence are not the same thing. You'd think women having a large pool of options to choose from, they'd pick the non-violent dudes over the violent ones, but perhaps the non-violent ones don't make their panties wet in the same way that the aggressive ones do, but hey what do I know Interesting take on fantasy. Most porn enthusiast men go to great lengths to assure women that they don’t really want to rape and torture women, they just want t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 08:28 AM
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RP wants promiscuity, what are you talking about No they don't. That has always been cope. It's why they talk about 'enjoying the decline'. Why do you think they call it decline? Because at the heart of it, if it came down to it, they would rather live in a society with thriving healthy relationships. Them wanting promiscuity is just an attempt to make do with a situation they already don't like. If trpers wanted promiscuity, I can bet good money, that Kamala would've won the elections instead o…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 08:13 AM
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The men who are like this don’t have issues finding wives, never have never will. This is literally what women want in a husband. I mean sure, trp already confirms this with AF/BB. It's why ugly boring dudes are able to still get married even though they couldn't bag a woman in their 20s. They make for very stable partners after women are done having their fun with guys they are intensely attracted to. For sexual pleasure Atleast you agree. Which gets to the heart of the matter. Toxic abusive du…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 08:11 AM
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It's not so much about good and bad, it's more about handsome and not handsome. I don't agree. If you give a handsome the personality over an agreeable pushover, women will not be attracted to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 07:51 AM
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*"I get it, man, you're right in saying that attractiveness doesn’t *automatically make someone a bad person. But what I’m talking about is the social effect that attractiveness has. It’s not about saying 'attractive people are inherently narcissistic', it’s about how attractiveness gives certain people a 'pass' in social interactions. They don’t have to try as hard to get validation or attention. This doesn’t mean all attractive people are assholes, just that they don’t face the same pressures …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 12:40 AM
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Yeah, sure, not everyone who feels they’re lacking in the looks department turns it around with personal growth. Some just get bitter, no doubt. But here’s the thing: we’re talking about probabilities, not absolutes. The reality is, people who feel that extra push, either from necessity or from external expectations,are often driven to compensate for their lack of physical appeal with something else, like charm, kindness, or personality. It’s like how people who are physically strong sometimes f…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 12:30 AM
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Yeah, sure, not everyone who feels they’re lacking in the looks department turns it around with personal growth. Some just get bitter, no doubt. But here’s the thing: we’re talking about probabilities, not absolutes. The reality is, people who feel that extra push, either from necessity or from external expectations, are often driven to compensate for their lack of physical appeal with something else, like charm, kindness, or personality. It’s like how people who are physically strong sometimes …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 12:29 AM
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Sure, I get the argument, but the reality is the world doesn't treat attractive people like they’re just 'genuinely nice' because of their environment. Being attractive does come with a certain level of privilege, and that privilege isn’t about kindness; it’s about power dynamics. People treat you better when they want something from you, not because they think you're a nice person. And it's that shift in treatment, compared to what an unattractive person would experience, that shapes someone's …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 12:25 AM
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Exactly. And that's precisely why men prefer younger women. Because older ones have too much mileage, too much baggage from past 'owners,' and might have hidden issues from sitting unused too long. They’re on the second-hand lot for a reason. That’s why men prefer fresh, untouched models from trusted sources. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 11:59 PM
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It’s not that handsome men have to be assholes or that unattractive guys have to be nice, it’s that people’s incentives shape their behavior. Imagine a restaurant that always has a line out the door. The staff doesn’t need to go above and beyond for every customer because they know people will keep coming. Now, compare that to a struggling restaurant that has to treat every customer like royalty just to stay in business. That’s the difference in dating dynamics. A really attractive guy often has…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 11:24 PM
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Looks are immaterial to this. My husband is conventionally very attractive. He treats me with respect, love empathy and kindness. I don’t think attractiveness directly impacts how someone treats you. It can indirectly impact personality such as having a chip I genuinely wonder you think that way? It’s not that handsome men have to be assholes or that unattractive guys have to be nice, it’s that people’s incentives shape their behavior. Imagine a restaurant that always has a line out the door. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 11:19 PM
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Ah yes, because when guys watch John Wick, it’s totally just for the interior design choices and not, you know, the power fantasy. Nobody’s saying women want to literally date Ted Bundy (well… most don’t), but let’s not pretend the theme of taming a dangerous man isn’t the draw. Men fantasize about being unstoppable. Women fantasize about being the exception. Same energy, different angles. And you see it reflect in their dating patterns. A lot of men would prefer being a woman's first f it came …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 11:12 PM
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I mean trump is definitely a threat to women's rights and feminisms. Who knows, it might be a win for the Redpill/incels/men's rights. If abortion is outlawed as it seems most conservatives are gunning for, it may men a less promiscuous culture which is exactly what the rp dudes want.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 11:09 PM
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Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 11:04 PM
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I mean trump did win the elections. If that isn't proof enough, I don't know what is
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 11:00 PM
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Life and society were so much better when women kept their mouths shut Shut in the sense that they didn't actively vocalize what turned them on. Look at what we have now, an incel crisis and a growing Redpill problem. Trump winning the election is proof of this. just accepted sexual slavery in order not to starve. Not really no. They should just do what they wanna do and go what they wanna go for, but keeping it on the downlow. Because the minute men catch wind it's not the decent respectful par…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 10:55 PM
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That I agree. Very few are attracted to peace in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 10:52 PM
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Some women might be silly enough to be into abusive men, but the vast majority are not. Very many actually. I saw a stat that 1 in 3 women is a victim of domestic violence. Also, there’s a big difference between fantasy and reality Not really. What ppl gravitate to in fiction, especially in the context of sex and relationship dynamics, is often a reflection of their own subconscious desires that are either too taboo or too impractical to actualize in real life. Men on this sub really need to get…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 10:51 PM
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I mean if the alternative is being a beta bucks aka safe option, I know which side is beneficial
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 10:45 PM
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This paragraph makes no sense. You said "Men like to own the power fantasy, [and therefore don't have to be presumed to just think violence is good] and women like to own the power fantasy [but are secretly lying and it's not actually a power fantasy]." Men get power fantasies, so do women. If we can assume that men who like power fantasies don't actually glorify violence, then we can equally assume that women who like power fantasies don't actually glorify violence". Either both parties get pow…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 10:43 PM
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His solution is that women should pretend they don't have any of the above, just to keep him and men who think like him happy - with a lie. 🤡 Yes, it Is a solution for the incel problem and the influence of the red pill. The alternative would be to somehow rewire women's attraction triggers to decent dudes inorder to select out the toxic abusive cheating ones out of the gene pool which for all intents and purposes is impractical. The world would be a very safe place if only women could be brainw…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 10:21 PM
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Fiction is absolutely a reflection of what someone wants, whether consciously or subconsciously. People don’t fantasize about things they find repulsive or unappealing. The whole point of consuming a particular genre of fiction is because it aligns with something desirable to the individual especially in a romantic or sexual context. If something appears repeatedly in the fiction someone enjoys, it’s because it aligns with a deeper inclination, whether they fully acknowledge it or not. Psycholog…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 10:16 PM
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also feel like this post entirely dismisses men being attracted to darker female character as well (largely because these women tend to bring energy, a seductive approach and confidence - to be clear, not cause they’re bad… sounds familiar?) - think of Harley Quinn, Catwoman, Shego, basically any femme fatal from a hard boiled detective movie and I’m sure there One of the biggest flaws in the "this isn't gendered" argument is that men have never tried to gaslight society into thinking they don’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 10:15 PM
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Fiction is absolutely a reflection of what someone wants, whether consciously or subconsciously. People don’t fantasize about things they find repulsive or unappealing. The whole point of consuming a particular genre of fiction is because it aligns with something desirable to the individual especially in a romantic or sexual context. If something appears repeatedly in the fiction someone enjoys, it’s because it aligns with a deeper inclination, whether they fully acknowledge it or not. Psycholog…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 10:09 PM
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The point of these fictions isn't "Bad man good". It's "Interesting and powerful man that can't be stopped by anyone else can be stopped by me. My love for him is so strong that it will tame the beast". It's a female power fantasy. Claiming that "Women loving Beauty tamed the Beast stories means women thing bad men are great" is the same as claiming "Men loving heroes beating up villain stories means men think violence is great". That’s a clever reframing, but it still sidesteps the core issue. …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 09:58 PM
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Not really no. The point is that toxic dudes are a case of demand breeds supply. The reason there are so many toxic dudes around is because women perhaps through no fault of their own refuse to select this trait out. If women didn't like toxic dudes, they'd probably be none or few. A lot of male behavior is connected female mate selection
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 09:45 PM
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You can be a selfless, helpful and law-abiding person if you have some boundaries dude. People fucking love that guy. Most non-toxic dudes are actually like that. Yet somehow they don't have nearly as much success as a toxic dude, who leaves women on read, cheats on them tc
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 09:39 PM
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I only recognized one of your villains, Christian Gray, and he is a Dom sexually but is also a very loving and committed partner. Which sort of gets to the heart of the matter or dichotomy really. I have a running theory as to the reason why nice guys finish last/ harmless dudes do so poorly with women. I've interacted with the stereotypical nice guy and I think I finally can pin why toxic men get one over them. Good guys often struggle with the illicit side of female desire because they’ve been…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 09:37 PM
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if you really believed that dysfunctional is hot, you’d all be dysfunctional. And you aren’t That's what the Redpill is hoping to achieve. Getting rid of the good boy syndrome/decent stable guy syndrome that a lot of guys are indoctrinated with. Why do you think trp preaches about af/BB?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 09:26 PM
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“I was nice and got no pussy. The obvious answer is to be an ass”. Yes it is a valid answer as any. A woman is less likely to think you're boring if you're an ass. There's a lot of unstable women who are attracted to despicable things, so being an ass kind of expands your options, it's better than nothing, or waiting tilling you're rich enough to be a BB. Regardless - a lot of y’all seem to think that “nice” means “spineless and mindlessly agreeable”. My working definition of nice, is putting ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 09:21 PM
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women inherently like aggressive men Oh they do. You should read some erotica for some perspective
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 09:17 PM
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For fucks sake, women like GOOD men too! Why do so many men children think that we ONLY want these vial pukes who demean and abuse us into former shells of who we used to or might be? Because toxic abusive dudes are a case of demand breeds supply. Good lord, is it so inconceivable to imagine that some of us could possibly have enough self esteem to choose a man who compliments strength and good sense? It's not conceivable. It's just that very few are actually attracted to decent men, that's why …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 09:15 PM
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You keep arguing as if attraction is logical, as if women rationally filter out toxic traits and only respond to confidence. But attraction isn’t logical, it’s emotional. Women don’t wake up and decide, “I’m going to date the guy who respects me.” They wake up drawn to the guy who makes them feel something, excitement, challenge, and emotional highs. If attraction were as simple as you claim, then charismatic, socially skilled “nice guys” would dominate the dating market. But they don’t. Because…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 05:47 PM
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The nice guy doesn't spark that attraction BECAUSE he is needy. The bad boy does spark it because he is NOT needy. Precisely the fact that he doesn't need her validation is what makes him attractive, the fact that he has a life, activities and things beyond her and also the fact that he is with her because he WANTS it and not NEEDS it. You keep hammering on the idea that women reject nice guys because they’re needy, but that’s only part of the story. If neediness alone were the issue, then bad b…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 05:45 PM
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Your definition of "bad boy" as simply a confident, attractive man ignores the reality that many of the most stereotypical "bad boys" are actively toxic, cheaters, liars, emotionally unavailable, and sometimes outright abusive. Women do fall for men who treat them poorly, not just because they are confident, but because of psychological factors like intermittent reinforcement and the thrill of chasing approval. You ignore the fact that women will tolerate and even rationalize mistreatment from a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 03:47 AM
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As a teen I did impulsive and dumb shit like drive fast, drink and smoke and adrenaline seeking behaviors because I was a teenager without a fully formed brain. I sought those things because that’s what teens seek out You think most terms are doing that?🤔 Fiction is fiction. It isn’t real. Art does imitate real life, it's why it can be so relatable for people. So no, fiction isn't just fiction
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 09:33 AM
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Do you think every wild frat boy I mean there's probably a reason they were that way to begin with, but hey, what do I know
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 12:46 PM
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most people still do not settle with individuals they don’t find attractive. The infidelity stats seem to be telling a different story but hey, whatever bluepilled delusion sticks, am I right? Would you marry a woman who cooks, cleans, is loyal, would make a good mom, etc. if you weren’t attracted to her? That's exactly what would turn me on and make her attractive in my eyes. Men are not like women you see
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 02:35 PM
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men don’t all feel that way. If the history of slutshaming and repressing of female sexuality is anything to go by, most men so feel this way. Even the whole abortion discourse is just a thinly veiled attempt to surpress the expression of female sexuality. They want women they deem as "promiscuous" to suffer the consequences and be saddled with a child. You obviously have a moral issue (or a resentment issue if you’re unhappy with your dating life) with casual sex - or at least with WOMEN enjoyi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 02:29 PM
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Why? Just find a partner you do want sex with. Because it's not easy. The men that women are attracted to tend to have lots of options hence less likely to be loyal or decent partners. So most women are forced to compromise. Pick the guy who'll treat them right, pay bills, even if they aren't attracted to them
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 02:17 PM
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I said “most women”. You think most women are prostitutes?? Most women are actually disgusted at the thought of doing that. It’s a minority that want to do this. Yes I do think so. Very few men are able to be in a relationship with women and not incur financial costs. What does “stability” mean here? Someone who cares about her enough to want to do right by her and treat her right. Someone who's gonna be there for her in those lonely nights and cuddling with her and whispering sweet nothings in …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 10:45 AM
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Men don’t see sex as a reward to be unlocked; they see it as a reflection of a woman’s genuine attraction. If she sleeps with one guy effortlessly but makes another guy 'work for it,' that’s not her desire growing, it’s her deciding he needs to prove his worth before she sleeps with him. And let’s be honest, that first guy is the one she really wanted. You’re claiming that developed desire is the same as immediate desire, but no man will ever feel that way. And for good reason. Let’s get real, m…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 10:23 PM
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So you weirdos online keep saying. Yet I never see in actual reality. Because most women's husband did not fuck their wives on day one, most likely upon her request because she wanted to take things slowly, didn't want him to think she was easy lmao Lol. I don't see any stark contrast in real life. It's really not debateble that a woman's preferences change with age? Women are not having casual sex with the guy who wants to make them home made lasagna and talk about life under the stars, they ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 07:21 PM
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There's not a stark contrast Oh there is. Men and women. Most men's preferences stay pretty much the same, the only reason they change is because in the past they were just targeting easy slutty girls because they were easy not hecause that's what they were attracted to. A man's wife would most definitely still have been he's type of he was a younger guy. The same is not the case for a woman's pick in a husband unfortunately
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 07:09 PM
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Most women wouldn’t even be willing to have sex with a man they aren’t attracted to. Idk about that, considering we have prostitution. The incentive just has to be worth enough in this case provision, stability, etc. The thought nauseates most of us. Yes, but the idea of a stable family with a dutiful husband who's willing to bankroll yourself is enough to make you brush it off for a period of time I just don’t believe it’s that common for women to be pretending they are attracted to someone jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 07:06 PM
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Regarding money and kids: it would be easier to just divorce the guy once she has all the kids she wants and "divorce rape" him. No need to stay in a sexually unfullfilling relationship. She likes the stability, that's why cheating is the better deal for her
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 06:56 PM
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Women don’t marry men who can’t satisfy them sexually. Why not? You should check out the show sexlife, it definitely shows how and why a would do what you claim they don't do? Women don’t marry men who can’t satisfy them sexually I mean she can have a stable family with a present Dad, an still cheat with her hot ex and have a steamy affair? Sounds like the best of both worlds
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 06:54 PM
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If AF/BB didn't exist, then there wouldn't be such a stark contrast between the men a woman hooked with in the past and the man she ended up marrying. Most importantly there wouldn't be such a thing as women's preferences changing with age lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 06:51 PM
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Someone who cares about their wellbeing, dotes on them, gives them a sense of security, a stable father who's present for the kids and helps around the house, someone to pay the bills, someone they can brag about to their friends how they surprised them on Valentine's. I think that's enough of a sale for most women
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 06:49 PM
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Because men who have exactly what women want and are attracted to are also the least likely ones to give it to them. That's why women have relationships they want but with men they would not prefer. As Chris rock uptly put it, the number one reason your wife is always mad in the house, is because you weren't her 1st choice
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 06:48 PM
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If it didn't, all women would be having sex within the confines of relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 06:44 PM
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Sex singlehandedly is one of the most important things to men, ofcourse other things matter, but sex is primary, and the guy who gets to have sex with least effort as possible is who the woman is genuinely attracted to. Personally if I were to get wind of my partners having a history of sex outside of relationship in the past, I definitely would cheat on her, I would see it as fair game
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 06:44 PM
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Ooh course, I'd fuck a himbo So essentially Af/BB?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 06:41 PM
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Why do the details matter? My husband was no virgin coming into our relationship. Edit
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 06:39 PM
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If you don’t value love, relationships with women, and see romance/relationships as a chore to just get access to sex - then you do you. Romance and the idealization of love and pedestalization of woman is a tool that men use to justify to themselves the inordinate expense and commitment they're making to one particular woman. Because without that veneer of specialness, if a man saw his woman like any other woman, as just a woman, it would be very very very hard for that man to make extra ordina…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 06:34 PM
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Or you can look at it as she never did any of the loving things she does for you, for Chad. Her willingness to be some other guy's slut for the night Would make whatever she does for him feel utterly worthless, because what's the point? The answer is that when a man becomes emotionally bonded with a woman, he begins to do things that he wouldn't do with other women, women with whom he was only sleeping with. He begins to make commitments, sacrifices, maybe he moves her in, maybe he proposes, or …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 06:30 PM
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wouldn’t have married or shared my life with either fwb I had unless they were entirely different people. My husband I do so much more for in every aspect. If A woman's casual history diminishes the worth of her love. Why would any man feel special being loved by a plan who was some other guy's slut of the night?🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 06:24 PM
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You can spend your life unhappy you’re not a Chad. Or be happy you have a woman who loves and cares for you. You choose to feel less than. That love would mean a lot less if she agrees with your viewpoint about letting Chad hit it for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 06:19 PM
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I've read tons of books, and the male lead is almost always problematic in ways that always feel way too similar with the bad boy appeal
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 08:05 PM
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Nearly every tv show with a love triangle, it's always the bad boy that gets drooled over
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 02:11 PM
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Funny how it's only the ones where the guy is some kind of sadistic macho man are the ones that sell millions of copies
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 02:10 PM
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Someone with long rebellious streak, probably uses drugs, violent, thrill-seeking, likes putting himself first even if it is at the expense of others, cheating is no biggie for him, someone who encourages all her worst impulses, very disagreeable, morals is not a vocabulary in their head
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 11:28 AM
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From my personal experience, I'd say that most stable and sane women interested in marriage and building their own family do not go for "bad boys" archetype Most of them use fiction to live it out. In every fictional piece, the bad boy is always the one being gushed over. Women may not love bad boys, but most of them are subconsciously attracted to them
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 11:24 AM
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All of those women seem to have serious psychological disorders and are not stable. Lots of women do gravitate towards these same men in fiction, fiction and fantasy is where they get to experience what's it like to be with a problematic man without consequences
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 11:17 AM
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What most people consider good or bad is usually self-referential and based on convenience rather than any objective metric I think when ppl think bad, it's extremely cut and dry, when ppl think bad, they think of a guy who's a cheater, violent, neglectful, encourages all her worst impulses, prioritizes his own self interests even if it's at the expense of others, has a long rebellious streak, real way to tell how that confidence and assertiveness will manifest itself within that person. This pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 11:15 AM
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Then why do you think fiction to cater to women is rarely ever about the decent guy who wants to make her homemade lasagna?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 10:47 AM
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From my personal experience, I'd say that most stable and sane women interested in marriage and building their own family do not go for "bad boys" archetype. Lots of them just aren't attracted to these guys, because they tend to be immature and infantile. I've never dated a "bad guy" or was into one and as far as I know my friends and relatives don't have such experience either They just use fiction to live out this subconscious attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 10:43 AM
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5.) They are attracted to the wrong things and can't simply help it. Most women In abusive relationships wouldn't be compatible with decent partners. They'd sooner get bored and try make it stick nut it won't work. If a woman wants a decent partner best believe she'll get it, women absolutely know what to look for subconsciously, it's why their preferences change with age
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 01:26 PM
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I won’t feel bad for some guy who marries a harridan either. There always was a choice to be alone. You underestimate the harm caused by loneliness. There's a reason we use solitary confinement as punishment
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 03:03 AM
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You can't criticize a thirsty man in a desert for drinking dirty water the same you would an upperclass white woman drinking from the river on the outskirts of her multimillion dollar ranch
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 03:01 AM
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It's a spectrum ofcourse, being on the extreme ends of either is not ideal, just like too much junk isn't appealing anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 01:38 AM
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Bad men are like junk food, good men are like healthy salads. If you digest this analogy, it becomes pretty clear why toxic men have such success
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 01:24 AM
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Why does that excuse him from criticism again? Because it's a choice made from circumstance, while when a woman picks wrong it typically shows that's what she wants and is attracted to Because of math. A man with 2 options is less likely to find his "soulmate" as opposed to a man with 10 options, this is not debateable buddy
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 01:18 AM
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Sorry, where are men being forced to be with women? Not necessarily but what it does mean, that with a smaller pool to choose from, a man might easily settle for having a shitty gf because it does beat not having one at all, the same argument doesn't work for women due to their large pool of options. the more options you are given the less likely you are to find the right one. The more options you are given the more likely you are to find what meets you particular requirements, lol how tf is tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 01:08 AM
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The thing that always gets me about this types of discussions is the level of infantalization that is always subscribed to the victim in question especially if it's a woman. The thing is this, if a woman is interested in a decent partner best believe she'll get one, women on average have a large pool of options, so the likelihood of picking wrong is less compared to a man who has to deal with limited options. This argument also assumes that women don't know what they are doing when they pick les…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 01:04 AM
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I think OP's points Is that men can immediately tell when a guy is playing a woman (simply because the mannerism of a man playing a woman are shared by most men, they know it because they understand exactly what a guy would say when they are playing with a woman's feelings) . The same way women can see through a fake, performative ‘nice girl’ act from another woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 12:41 AM
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If the only person you can control is yourself why don’t abusive men control themselves better? You fault lies in assuming they would care to, they know what they do is wrong, and they don't care, infact they wouldn't enjoy it if it wasn't wrong. If someone is being manipulated then how are they supposed to choose better? Idk, not allow themselves to be manipulated? They’ve been presented with a false version of the person. They think they are choosing a guy who has similar interests, remembers …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 12:34 AM
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What's up with this level of infantalization? If someone is old and mature enough to vote, own a firearm they are most definitely mature enough to spot red flags, if not then we need to seriously consider changing the voting age, legal age of consent and so many other things. It takes time to learn to make a good choice in any area of life. How come this doesn't seem to apply when it comes to other things?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 12:29 AM
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Why do you think that is? Because men don't have as many options on average so they are more likely to pick wrong. Women are actively choosing who they want, most ppl don't necessarily buy that they don't know. Men are harder to criticize on this score because you can't really tell them "pick better" in a lot of cases. And while "stay single" is a valid option, I think a lot of people have trouble admitting that's the alternative, so you're gonna see fewer people say it at least without promptin…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 12:25 AM
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People are always on their best behavior during the first few months to few years, and sometimes the difference is slight, other times day and night. When it comes to abusers, their MO is to wait until they see you as trapped (married, pregnant, jobless, etc.). If this is common knowledge, how the hell do ppl still fall for it then??🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 12:20 AM
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This is bad faith. You are attempting to conflate the fact that some people are dishonest, somehow, as evidence that no one is Is this projection? I'm truly baffled how you can honestly believe with a straight face that 100% of human beings are duplicitous and bad, and the only reason we don't behave as such is due to lack of opportunity Literally nothing I said was no one is duplicitous and everyone would behave the same without incentives, you are arguing against a strawman. You are the one wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 01:07 AM
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as much as you hear about women being played by men sleeping around with multiple other women or beating them or knocking them up out of wedlock and making them single mothers, you also hear about men whose partners sleep with their friends/brother, or who emotionally abuse them for decades, or men being "tricked" into unwanted parenthood when the women decide to keep the babies... I feel like those are all easy situations to avoid if you just pay attention and use your head. If it's not an acti…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 12:11 AM
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I absolutely, unequivocally disagree most, or all people wouldn't be nice unless it was incentivized. And I'm one of the biggest misanthropes on this sub. That is way too broad of a claim. Then explain why people behave differently when no one is watching. If goodness was inherent, there wouldn’t be a difference in behavior when there are consequences vs. when there aren’t. Why do companies implement rules against fraud if people are just naturally honest? Why do we have police if people are nat…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 11:55 PM
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Well he is a lucky man, most men would take a woman at any age provided she wasn't willingly another man's warm body for the night
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 11:45 PM
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But the guy who doesn’t have options will cheat as soon as a better option comes up, by your logic He doesn't have options so where will the options come from, when he isn't attractive or charming enough to pull them? Women manage to stay loyal despite infinite options. I wonder why men can’t. Women stay loyal because there's consequences to cheating, they can be kicked out, maimed or even killed if infidelity is discovered, there's also the fact that they face great risk and struggle to get the…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 11:43 PM
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Genuine question for women, despite having so many options, how tf do you still pick wrong??😭🤔 I mean, I can understand a guy picking wrong be abuse of a smaller pool of options
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 11:08 PM
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Well that label applies depending on your history, if you have a history of dating and hooking up with jerks, then he's probably very close to being a cuck
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 11:06 PM
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Congratulations, you just realized that dating isn’t a morality test, it’s a strategy game. Yes, the guy with fewer options may not be loyal out of pure moral virtue, but guess what? His incentives still align with commitment. And in relationships, predictable loyalty beats theoretical morality every time. Meanwhile, the guy with infinite options? He might be capable of loyalty, but he doesn’t have to be. So why would he be? Out of the kindness of his heart? Because he really really likes you? T…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 11:04 PM
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Yes, some men are only ‘nice’ because they have to be. But guess what? Most if not all people in general are only as good as their incentives require them to be. If you don’t believe me, take a look at how people behave when they think no one is watching. Power reveals character. The issue isn’t that non-hot guys are inherently better—it’s that their circumstances make them more likely to act better in relationships. The same way a guy who’s broke is more likely to be frugal, while a guy with un…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 10:53 PM
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The point is probability. If you give two people drastically different levels of power in a relationship, they’re likely to behave differently. That’s just basic human psychology. The person who knows they can leave at any time with zero consequences has less incentive to compromise, be loyal, invest, or be accountable. That doesn’t mean every attractive guy is a player, it means having options makes it easier to act selfishly and horribly. But sure, let’s pretend that environment and incentives…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 10:51 PM
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When someone has fewer options, they’re more likely to value what they get. That’s just how human nature works. It’s the same reason why a guy who’s been unemployed for a year is gonna treat his new job differently than a guy getting daily job offers. Does that make the unemployed guy a saint? No. But does it mean he’s more likely to appreciate what he has? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 10:45 PM
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And that’s exactly the problem. Women aren’t choosing based on character or long-term compatibility, they’re choosing based on vibes and hoping for the best. Then, when things go south, they act like they couldn’t have known and blame ‘men’ as a whole instead of their own decision-making process. No one’s saying every average guy is a saint. The point is that statistically, men who don’t have an endless lineup of options have more incentive to value the relationships they enter. Whereas the guy …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 10:43 PM
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The more desirable someone is, the more options they have. The more options they have, the less they have to invest in any one person. The less they have to invest, the more disposable their partners become. This isn’t some bitter ‘nice guy’ fantasy, it’s literally how power dynamics work in all human relationships. That’s why no one is saying every attractive man is a cheater or a bad partner. The argument is that when someone has the ability to do whatever they want with little consequence, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 10:37 PM
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A man who knows he can replace a woman at any time has less incentive to invest deeply or even do right by her, because doing things right actually involves a lot of effort. That’s not ‘projection’ that’s basic human psychology.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 10:34 PM
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Ah yes, the classic ‘this isn’t about logic, it’s about incels!’ deflection. When faced with an argument about incentives and probabilities, you jump straight to bad faith psychoanalysis. Convenient. If you consistently choose men who have high incentive not to commit, you’re more likely to get non-commitment. If you choose men whose options allow them to behave recklessly without consequence, you’re more likely to experience recklessness. That’s not an ‘incel fantasy,’ that’s basic behavioral e…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 10:30 PM
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No one said height guarantees loyalty, just like wearing a seatbelt doesn’t guarantee survival in a crash. The point isn’t that short or unattractive men can’t cheat or abuse, it’s that their incentives are different. It’s not about filtering out all bad behavior, it’s about playing the odds. If you keep picking men who have high incentives to behave badly, don’t be shocked when they do."
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 10:24 PM
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Because kindness and decency are not intrinsic qualities like many human traits, they are strategic behaviors shaped by incentives. If hard work didn’t lead to success, people wouldn’t work hard. Humans behave in ways that optimize their perceived rewards and minimize their perceived risks. A man who struggles to attract women operates in an environment of scarcity. For him, relationships are harder to secure, so when he finds one, he has high incentive to preserve it. The behavior that emerges,…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 10:21 PM
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What’s up with “attractive men are bad and not interested in monogamy, unattractive men are good and loyal?” The reason people point out the Chad vs. average guy dynamic isn’t because attractiveness causes toxicity, but because attractiveness changes incentives. When a man is highly desired, he has less reason to be loyal, why would he commit when he can have options? On the other hand, an "average" guy, who struggles to attract attention, has more to gain from commitment and loyalty. So no, it’…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 10:18 PM
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Because more often than not, kindness and decency iare not an inborn traits, they are cultivated by incentives just like hard work. If most ppl knew that hard work didn't pay off no one would really work hard, the same is true for most human behaviours. Ppl usually lie because it pays off,
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 10:13 PM
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