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I appreciate that men tend to skew less anxious than women. Male strength and athleticism are also pretty cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 11:26 PM
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I don’t think I’d ask anything. I would like to know a bit more about his relationship with his dad, because I think I could support him better that way, but he’ll let me know if and when he’s ready.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 11:12 PM
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I understand the appeal, but also think that most fairly normal (for lack of a better term) 30 year old men are still going to have fewer important commonalities with a 22 year olds than with similarly aged women… and if a man is not that socially and/ or emotionally normal, a 22 year old is going to be less equipped to deal with that than a 30 year old woman. Additionally, most young woman who date older are partly motivated by wanting someone who is more serious and ready/able to settle down i…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 03:13 AM
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While I’m not sure makeup should be included here (unless it’s dramatically different from their day-to-day makeup) these are insane answers lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 04:02 PM
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These people don’t sound terribly nice and I agree that culture can exacerbate the situation… however, even in a more accepting culture with nicer people, there’s still the factor that ND people frequently exhibit fewer socially unconventional traits in some settings than in others, and it’s possible that someone who has not really observed their ND crush in certain types of settings could be put off in response to learning more about their behavior from a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 07:01 AM
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I think this could come across as desperate or overly aggressive pretty easily. Ideally, you could make your presence know in another way without directly talking about his looks or asking him out.
/r/RedPillWomen11/08/25 06:19 PM
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Not sure about other countries but the median age of marriage in the USA for women is around 28 and couples usually date for at least a couple of years before marriage, so women are typically settling down with someone that they met in their mid 20s or younger. Collage-age women (and men) are quite young, impulsive, and still changing a lot , so it’s good to date with intention, but getting married/making a lifelong romantic commitment at that age is kind of a gamble.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 08:28 PM
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No, but a man choosing to get into a physical relationship with a woman to whom he has no attraction is pretty uncommon. The alternative is to be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 08:05 PM
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Does the baby enjoy climbing?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 10:12 PM
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Agreed, but determining league is major source of disagreement -men seems to feel that they should be getting women who are at least their equal (in rank) when its comes to looks and social skills/charisma- ex: a 5 usually wants a 5/6, even though they would probably still be far happier being with a 4 than with with nothing -women are more selective in terms of their minimum partner requirements in order for a relationship to not be straight up unpleasant for them, but less concerned than are m…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 08:29 PM
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Agreed! General well-being, and the quality and mutual enjoyment of the intimacy is what needs to be addressed more so than the quantity. OP is already having about 4 times more sex than she wants, mainly for her partners benefit. Maybe once she’s less tired and enjoys the existing intimacy more, then she’d be interested in having sex 3 or 4 times a week, but right now, upping the frequency is not the answer. Quality intimacy twice a week is also not unreasonable.
/r/RedPillWomen22/07/25 05:34 PM
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In a long term relationship with a straight guy now, but I never had any issue with dating someone bi. I don’t think it was a preference, just never a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 08:26 PM
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In terms of the past: As long as everyone was on board with the situations being casual, and it’s been long enough that I could believe he’s actually out of the phase, I’d probably be okay with it. If he intentionally mislead anyone and couldn’t reflect and realize that it was wrong, or if the phase only ended last Tuesday , I’d have a problem As far as the present, I’d want to make sure he was clean lol and observe to make sure he seemed adequately attracted to me. If he found me less attractiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 09:08 PM
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Good advice but I also want to weigh in that card statements do show cash back withdrawals on purchases, so use this option cautiously if you think he may watch the credit card statements.
/r/RedPillWives29/05/25 09:12 PM
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It’s good if you have appropriate boundaries/aren’t flirty/ crushing on the friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 06:28 PM
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There really do seem to be a lot of men in the newer generations willing to be modern, equitable partners. This is true, but the majority don’t put much effort into being attractive and aren’t on board to date down in attractiveness, so we have men who are, in some major ways, more romantically attractive than in the past, but the roughly the same to less sexually attractive (obesity, declined social skills) to their prospective partners- so women (and men) are still left in a weird predicament …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 04:53 PM
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Ex: An old couple, where one person has advanced dementia and becomes cognitively/ physically dependent on the other person.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 10:28 PM
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Yes— but, mainly in situations that still mimic that dynamic-ex: caregiver scenarios.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 10:18 PM
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Men have more body hair due to testosterone. Some women also remove the tail of the brow or thin them out a lot so they can draw them back in (hopefully) better.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 11:30 PM
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I misread it as Q4W and thought it was asking if I would be upset finding out that my boyfriend had sex with a man, and that the sex included them pretending to be twin butlers or something
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 10:13 PM
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How quaint
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 09:49 PM
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Early 30s
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 09:46 PM
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I’m like 5’7.5 and a man I was dating mentioned being 5’10 in passing. We were standing, and very obviously the same height
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 09:44 PM
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Lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 09:35 PM
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😂
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 09:32 PM
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those boys don't bend over and simp like pathetic millenial men. Instead they say: grow up and shit.* .. I’m not familiar with this kink
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 09:30 PM
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Unconditional love is mostly parent to child/caregiver to dependent and sometimes the other way around. Regardless of distance, most other relationships don’t include “unconditional” love. It doesn’t mean that the love cannot be deep or long term, but there’s usually some conditions that have to be met for that love to continue.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 05:40 PM
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? I don’t care if his friends are “pulling.” If the complaining was a passive effort to get me to have sex with him, or him idealizing a casual sex lifestyle, then yes- that piece would be unattractive. I’d already know if he were sexually inexperienced. My partner isn’t terribly experienced, I don’t care. Ignoring when other women hit on him is a good response I don’t know how you got to the last point. Are you saying that not having sex with him for a period of time when we’re both busy and I’…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 04:20 PM
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I don’t understand the vulnerability piece. Could you explain a bit? I’m terms of the standards, those things they don’t want to compromise on may be non-negotiable for them, and they may have enough experience being single to know they can tolerate continuing to be single it if someone doesn’t meet their requirements. They might also have experience dating someone who didn’t meet non-negotiable standards, and know that they don’t want to repeat that process. I do agree with you that self improv…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 10:46 PM
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Men and women tend to have fairly different relationship and social experiences. The average man gets a lot more, sexually, out of a relationship with an average women, than the other way around. Women are lower libedo and more selective than men, so many are okay without regular sex and/or aren’t that attracted to average men, and want to avoid unwanted sex. They also of course, have more options for unattached sex, but I don’t think this is as big of a factor as people think. Women also tend t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 10:00 PM
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men have greater faith that they as individuals will not take advantage of a woman with attributes that increase vulnerability, and have lesser faith in other men to act right/maintain interest if they were with such a woman It’s certainly not malicious, but it doesn’t play out well
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 08:33 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 12:25 AM
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I don’t think its very common, but it is certainly shitty. I guess some folks think it’s a right of passage, but it’s lousy to pressure.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 11:40 PM
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My parents getting divorced is one of the best things that ever happened to me. The extent of the crap that a family goes does not neatly correlate with whether they divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 11:17 PM
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It’s not a great filter. Looking at their dynamic with their parents and maybe the nature of the relationship between the two parents is helpful, but there’s enough fucked up intact marriages + situations where separated couples co-parented amicably, that it’s not the best strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 11:12 PM
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It’s not a great article, but there’s some decent points. Communicating effectively is complex, and it’s possible to be strong in a lot of aspects, while being somewhat weak in other— and sometimes those are the ones that can really sink a person in dating. Effectively conveying boundaries and not coming off as excessively communicative about the wrong things is really important with dating. There’s ofcourse other factors at play, like physical attractiveness and partner selection that play a hu…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 10:37 PM
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Yes and yes. We are left leaning, he’s a little more left than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 06:52 PM
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Seriously. It’s raining, me joints are killing me, and you expect me to bend to pick up my purse so I can comb through 10 lbs of cough drops, tissue packs, aspirin, and old makeup just to find my measly drivers license?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 01:29 AM
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Hide her!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 01:20 AM
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I’ve only had exclusive relationships, so I can only half-answer, but the number of times I was intimate didn’t seem to affect my romantic feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 10:15 PM
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What do you mean by women with male tastes, in this context? I was trying to convey that women with male tastes in the non-sexual sense could appreciate his work, but it would not necessarily lead to attraction, but I also think that those with “male tastes” in terms of desire, would probably be more looks focused than the average women, and therefore less likely to find him appealing. It’s possible that women critical of him from a social standpoint might skip some of his films due to that fact…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 12:06 AM
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A lot of women respect him as an actor. It just doesn’t translate to the majority of women finding him sexually attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 11:22 PM
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He’s clearly talented, but a huge part of his appeal to women was his looks and youthful/playful energy. He also had kind of a wholesome/dreamy quality early on, that really hooked people. Tom Cruise and RDJ did some silly stuff, but it didn’t disrupt their appeal in the same way that DiCaprio’s actions and visual changes have impacted him.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 10:55 PM
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I admire his integrity, diligence, resourcefulness, work ethic, ability to stay calm under pressure, and thoughtfulness.
/r/RedPillWomen31/08/22 04:46 PM
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My theory is that it’s a status thing for him (plus very young women are going to be less likely to push for commitment.) He was one of the most handsome, desirable men in the world at one point, who has not aged well- in terms of appearance and, to an extent, public image. He’s telling himself and trying to tell the world that he’s still got it by running through girls in their early 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 04:22 PM
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You are smarter than people think. WTF?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 02:45 AM
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You’re just listing descriptors that make them less likely to lost in your back hair…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 01:38 AM
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I have a better understanding of relationship dynamics now, but my basic understanding of mutual love is the same. I do find it crazy how much variance there is among how different people define love though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 06:01 PM
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Anne Hathaway meets Steve Buchemi
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 04:02 AM
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They must have been very elderly for Clara Bow to have popped into their head haha
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 03:59 AM
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Id probably try to kill the person administering the CPR.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 12:20 AM
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I’ll take your flashiest DNR bracelet please.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 12:13 AM
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Holy username Batman!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 11:58 PM
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Event/activity items or gestures can go a long way. Set lunch up as a little picnic, take him to a cool old book store If he likes that kind of thing, have a silly dance party in the living room, leave him a fun or romantic note in an unexpected place, bring him a “souvenir” from somewhere you went- it can be tiny or silly but it shows you were thinking of him. Massages or backscratches are nice too! You can also venture into light grooming territory if he likes that sort of thing- ex: help him …
/r/RedPillWomen29/08/22 09:39 PM
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A lot of growth, including the sort that increases relationship appeal, can still occur after 25, but most of the stuff that actually drives sexual desirability peaks or plateaus at about that point. I don’t think it has to be as dismal as people believe though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 06:32 PM
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Like an Applebees? That’s fine
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 05:55 PM
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If he took me to a bad restaurant on a first date just to use a coupon? Probably not.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 05:06 AM
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In this scenario, I’d think it was hilarious, assuming he hadn’t taken me to a bad restaurant just to use the coupon, or something
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 03:42 AM
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It also matters a lot with raising kids, even among people who aren’t very concerned with the income aspect. Stay at home parents are not one-size-fits all and enough women realistically can’t satisfy the standards that a successful doctor may have for raising his kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 11:06 PM
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I think it’s largely class thing— a new-money guy with working class origins who makes it big in construction might be ok with a waitress A UMC doctor is usually going to marry someone fairly academically/educationally accomplished though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 10:55 PM
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Someone who is pleasant , but has a strong backbone and who can adequately “keep up” with them socially and intellectually.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 10:38 PM
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No, but observing taught me a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 08:45 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 06:24 PM
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I’d want him to be a decent human, which pretty much rules out fuck boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 09:47 PM
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False. Both men and women have conflicting instincts and desires within themselves, which makes both groups complicated. There’s also in-group variance among men and among women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 08:57 PM
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I think there’s basically 2 major categories: Borderline (or not, depending on how extreme people are) aggression / threatening behavior v. demonstrations of strength/ capacity to lead, without actually showing aggression toward the partner. Obviously there is ambiguity about where certain acts would fall, but in general, actions in the first category tend to yield a divisive response , whereas those in the second category tend to get a more consistent (positive) response.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 05:57 AM
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My dude, that’s a collar, so yes. Regular chokers don’t necessarily look sexual though
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 03:39 AM
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Ya, I know this is a not-uncommon thing, but if somebody tried to choke me, my gut reaction would probably be to fight them lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 03:31 AM
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You’ve seen some shit lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 03:20 AM
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Did they give details/demographic? Do you have the link?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 03:18 AM
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most women in competitive fitness (which is where you most commonly see that type of physique) end up getting implants for that reason
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 03:14 AM
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I think you overrated some of the well-put together pretty-but-not gorgeous women, while underrating the average and slightly above or slightly below women. I’d call your 3 (admittedly at a bad angle) and 4 women to be 5s. I’d also rate the first 5 and probably at least half the 6’s to be more attractive than how they rank on this list.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 03:07 AM
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Could you provide an example ?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 10:45 PM
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If the alternative is no sex, then yes, a lot of men have pretty low standards to find a woman appealing enough for intimacy/ to be willing to get into some kind of dating arrangement if that’s what it takes to have sexual access. This doesn’t say much however, about how a man with minimal standards to get involved will treat a given woman, if he will commit/invest in the relationship beyond whatever is necessary for sexual access, or how he will react if another opportunity arises, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 09:49 PM
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The only time Ive seen it in romantic relationships is in some caregiver situations, which would have some parallels with patent-child relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 12:09 AM
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I typically don’t volunteer mine (low) for the opposite reason— It’s not a point of pride (or shame), and I’d rather just not deal with it being treated as such.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 09:38 PM
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You can get them from puberty.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 11:38 PM
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That’s not so much makeup as it is photography tricks and editing on someone with generally decent features other than some skin issues and, for whatever reason, no eyebrows. Her eye color isn’t even the same and you couldn’t possibly make your nose look that different in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 01:58 AM
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My observation has been that they often do, but in moderation and when it’s plausible that the other person could be into them. I’m wary of people who are super into hard chasing though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 12:28 AM
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In your electric bed with rails?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 04:47 PM
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👍 keep it up dude
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 01:28 AM
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Lol, I mean for a relationship. You said you protect your values on sex by being too unattractive for casual sex (I’m going by your terms-not calling you ugly or anything lol), but how you appear affects chances for a relationship also.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 12:42 AM
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Gotcha. I probably fall around agnostic too. If you don’t mind, I’m curious why you feel so strongly about marrying a virgin specifically, as opposed to a virgin/ someone who had only previously been intimate in a couple of serious relationships or something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 12:03 AM
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Are you quite religious?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 11:30 PM
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Ouch!!! My condolences.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 11:22 PM
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Idk… neither men nor women, on average, tend to be terribly attracted to genitals themselves. Turns out that women aren’t all that into staring at pictures of random dicks and balls. This was extremely funny to me for some reason haha
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 11:19 PM
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A noble sacrifice
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 11:14 PM
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That’s fair lol Keep in mind though that you could be interfering with positive opportunities too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 11:03 PM
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I would want a virgin woman as a minimum requirement for this. And I protect this by being too unattractive for casual sex haha. Dude.. lol. One of these things is not like the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 10:14 PM
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My actual partner I wouldn’t trade for anything. I wouldn’t gamble on a hypothetical person though. I’ve met enough people who say they love their spouse— and im sure they mean it, based on their ideas of love, but so many seem kind of checked-out, inattentive, and unromantic, even if they are holding up their basic responsibilities in the relationship. I’d rather be alone than have this situation, or a situation where I’m paired with a person that I don’t love.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 10:10 PM
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After hearing or experiencing abusive and toxic relationships why do you still desire romance? I know not everyone is like this. I also know you have to be careful and avoid being vulnerable with those who may not have your best interests in mind… and even then you can still get bitten sometimes, but I’ll accept some risk for someone I mutually love. And I really love my partner. Why do you still want romance even if hook up culture is normalized? I’ve always been romantic and affectionate. Hook…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 08:30 PM
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Like 90% of people look better in a mask Several times I’ve met an elderly patient and spouse, and automatically assumed the spouse was a son or daughter because the mask made them look so much younger than the patient (although I’m sure the patient also looked a bit rougher for health care reasons)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 02:12 AM
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I don’t mean a contract or anything but at least some kind of acknowledgment of what he is providing-ex: acknowledgement of generosity, gestures, saying it’s mutually beneficial or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 04:27 PM
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I saw your comment. The impression from the profile in context, is that he included photos to show he has money (he has to know on some level that’s it the only way he could get the attention from the demographic that he is seeking, who would of course hope he would spend it ). Then, he makes a blanket statement about no gold diggers, and doesn’t follow up with acknowledgment of the nature of the dynamic he is seeking or the role he would play. It seems like he’s trying to advertise that he has …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 03:46 PM
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They are not the same thing, but if a Middle aged man on a vanilla dating site is posting flashy pictures, but says “no gold diggers”, and doesnt follow it up by somewhere acknowledging the nature of the dynamic he is seeking, or his role, it just sounds like he trying to catch the eye of a woman he’d logically have to compensate, but hopes to get away either without compensating her or without acknowledging the transactional nature of the relationship even if he’s organically treating her on a …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 05:24 AM
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Lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 02:23 AM
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Sounds like the second dude is seeking those tall genes lol I knew a morbidly obese guy who thought he should have a skinny girl friend because “it’s cute that I’m big and she’s small”. He befriended very attractive slim woman and complained about the friendzone…often
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 02:21 AM
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We made it socially and financially prohibitive for women to stay single, so not marrying meant you were, in effect, being financially punished for not entering arrangements that often required unwanted sex. Contemporary marriage still has benefits for family creation, and net-net, men are still getting more intimacy and relationships they would without it. This is not to say that adjustments aren’t indicated but removing the no-fault divorce option or only having women who are willing to consig…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 05:12 PM
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Brothels were not an option for all When we had the type of marriage you described, abstaining from marriage was not a viable option for the majority of women… and financial punishment for not engaging in unwanted sex was built-in, regardless of whether a woman married
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 03:34 AM
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Going without sex is more difficult for a man, but it is an option. There has always been a portion of adult men who did not have sexual access. I would like to see a push toward greater sources of fulfillment and community involvement for men who aren’t having sex and a reduction in the stigma of being an older virgin. I’m also open to ideas about getting more people to willingly pair up, but (financially) punishing women for not partaking in unpleasant sex is not something that a society shoul…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 11:01 PM
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If you aren't willing to keep having sex with the man you are about to marry, don't marry. Marriage is, or at least should be, a commitment with certain expectations. You do as well as you can on both sides. If my partner truly could not continue to be intimate with me without distress, I would either tolerate a life without it or let him go. If he was the one to make career sacrifices during the relationship to raise our children or manage the majority of home affairs, that should be taken into…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 04:13 PM
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I prefer having only minimal hair in the underarm and bikini area since it makes it easier for me to stay clean/dry . Legs I find sort of pointless since there’s really no functional reason to get rid of that hair , it’s a big area to shave, and I don’t have nice legs with or without the hair lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 05:29 AM
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Sorry, flipped into the present. I suppose I just don’t understand how anyone can find it just to prioritize the sexual gratification of one party, over the other party’s ability to abstain from sex that they truly don’t want. Women basically had to get married due to deliberate social and economic constraints, so this was a common predicament for women. I know some of these women from older generations, and their memories of the time were not favorable. Women are terrified of ever going back to…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 03:08 AM
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This isn’t a legal clause. From a social standpoint, if he cannot arouse her, then he’s not holding up his end of the sexual dynamic either.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 02:55 AM
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She would be declining sex that she hates, and it would be his decision to get a divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 02:26 AM
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Not enjoying the sex is her fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 02:18 AM
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If marriage was fair, based on your standards , what would be a reasonable outcome in this situation: *repeatedly having sex with your wife whilst knowing they literally hate it and it makes her cry She is making that choice. The alternative is getting cheated on or divorced. I don't expect the man to turn into a monk.*
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 01:55 AM
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They are different but there’s overlap
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 01:12 AM
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Job is unimportant, but she should have traits and background knowledge that would be be significantly more common among women with a roughly similar education/ job status to me, and also, she shouldn’t be a financial drain. Otherwise, its totally fine that she has a 10th grade education and works as a professional nose picker.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 12:23 AM
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From what I have put together: If you argue that average women are wronging average men by not pairing up with them at the rate they should , it justifies not treating the women well if you get that opportunity
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 12:05 AM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 11:44 PM
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We were mostly awkward smart kids who became a little more normal with age.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 10:36 PM
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I have dear friends who are autistic, it’s really tough. Have you worked with a therapist? They may be able to help with social skills in a more sustainable way. Support/social groups for folks who are not neutrotypical can also be helpful. Autism can be really isolating even separate from the dating component. As you acknowledged, autism does tend to adversely affect one’s dating life. Keep in mind that you may have to consider dating women notably less physically attractive since (percieved) s…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 09:08 PM
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Hmm, I don’t think the is the default. People wait for different reasons. Some want to avoid sleeping with a high number of people or having casual sex because it makes them feel like crap, or they believe it’s bad in a more general sense or negatively impacts their ability to be a good partner in a long term relationship (i.e. a spiritual perspective , or the pair bonding argument). Some are trying to avoid being a vulnerable position with those they don’t trust (yet, or otherwise). Some think …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 05:20 AM
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I’m in a relationship and I’ve got no skin in this game, but what do you mean by dangling over his head?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 03:21 AM
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I don’t think waiting a long time is necessary, but it does rule out some of the guys who are just looking to sleep with a woman, and it also allows more time to vet someone before deciding whether you really want to sleep with them
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 02:55 AM
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I would admire his tenacity, but also recognize that he may have scars or no-longer-adaptive coping mechanisms that I’m not equipped to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 02:34 AM
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Person A, assuming I find them behaviorally attractive. Its possible to be compatible as good friends but totally incompatible from a relationship/attraction standpoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 12:38 AM
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With a honey in the middle there’s some leeway
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 10:04 PM
2

10/10 for the swirly nose ring
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 10:03 PM
1

Ever been to Australia?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 06:57 PM
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You know the whole BBW market lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 07:36 PM
1

Most studies have shown that women like a man 3-5 years older. Could you direct me? My understanding was that if you start around 20, women like 1-3 years older, with gap diminishing as they age, and by 29/30 they start to prefer men their age or slightly younger. Historically, my impression was that there’s been variance in how close couples were in age, but 10-15 year gaps weren’t very uncommon, and were mostly achieved via economic/social pressures. As you said- it was largely among elites, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 06:56 PM
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It’s also worth noting that we societally catered to mens preference for youth, over female preference for similarly aged men for a very long time, and there are demographics still trying to push this. Women are scared of this— the average 30 year old often doesn’t want to sleep with the average 30 year old man- she really doesn’t want to get stuck with the average 40 year old
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 03:59 PM
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There’s a lot, although people may also exhibit some of the behaviors for other reasons (ex: fear of coming across as desperate, haven’t totally settled on how they feel about you yet, etc.) so it’s not black and white. Off the top of my head though: -being intentionally vague about the future or what they are looking for/ avoiding directly answering questions thar would give an indication about the status of relationships and if they are exclusive -incongruence between actions and words. Cancel…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 04:12 AM
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Meeting a pet’s needs is vastly easier than meeting the needs of a baby. There’s a ton of room to fuck up parenting, even among parents with good intentions who made sacrifices (ex: sleep, career, health, recreation, lifestyle, $, mental health, etc). Parenting well is hard. It doesn’t make sense for everyone — and honestly, lots of people don’t have the aptitude to be good parents. Doing right as a cat/dog owner is a lot more accessible, requires fewer sacrifices, and provides some similar bene…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 10:59 PM
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This is bonkers. A lot of men are still on board to sleep with a socially awkward women (although depending on how awkward she is, they may not even want other people to know about) , but being socially awkward significantly decreases most means romantic interest in a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 07:53 PM
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I’m purple-ish, but If I’m allowed to answer: You can achieve many of the same objectives by working on outcome independent/stoicism plus just becoming attractive. Attractive women do notice if others find a man desirable. You don’t have to actually sleep with a ton of women for this effect. In addition, some of the actions it may require to sleep with a ton of women can put off the type of woman TRP claims to be want (low N, conscious, wholesome) from wanting to be with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 05:51 PM
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I hope you find a nice lady with a giant booty and ride off into the sunset together my dude
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 05:32 AM
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It would be medically inadvisable in this scenario
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 03:11 AM
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Is that how you developed your ailment?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 02:55 AM
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One, but he’s wants a woman half his size.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 01:46 AM
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She paid for my Spotify. Lol! this is like low stakes sugaring
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 01:38 AM
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What if they do tai chi in the background. Is that acceptable?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 11:46 PM
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Agreed. I’ve also noticed that guys care a lot less about N-count if it’s a high value women who had plenty of relationship options among people she hooked up with, so the guy is really confident she’s not settling for him, and also recognizes it the significance of him passing the bar for a relationship, when the other guys did not, despite the fact that she found them all attractive enough to sleep with quickly. I known 3 women who were like this and the guys were the ones trying to get commit…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 08:49 PM
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You have to shower both before and after. Shower sandwich
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 04:51 PM
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It’s logical Some guys really aren’t picky about N count, but If he is, your taking a major hit if you sleep with him right away.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 04:28 PM
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I appreciate the admission, there’s a lot of folks saying they want someone low N count who sleeps with them quickly, but realistically, if someone sleeps with you on a first date, the logical assumption(in most cases) is that the person probably has a higher N count— so men who care do care about N count, would be inclined to penalize someone for sleeping with them on a first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 04:20 PM
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This is crappy, but I appreciate the honesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 11:37 PM
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Your opinions on: 1) How soon into a relationship is it possible to feel love for your partner? I think you need to have been friends or partners for at least a month (and more often, at least 3 months) before you can really know. It’s tough to call it love rather than infatuation (which sometimes becomes love) if you don’t know the person well enough. 2) How long into dating before you should say “I love you” for the first time? If it happens after you’ve been dating for a while, and you think …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 10:23 PM
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-Passing thoughts don’t make the friendship less legitimate -Willingness to hook up with her in an instant even in situations where it would jeopardize the friendship does make it less legitimate
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 09:49 PM
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I’d expect him to do the majority of the housework, (while still trying to do the vast majority of cleaning up after myself)- unless we had small kids, since that creates way more mess + consumes more time and energy than being childless.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 06:51 PM
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They usually come off as stoic and/or mellow. They skew lower on neuroticism/ irritability than the average person. They stay cool in the face of most obstacles and tend to take failure in stride.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 03:37 AM
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Heathens like you are why the birthrate is falling.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 03:13 AM
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Bag of sand
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 03:10 AM
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If this is included people of varying ages and levels of faith, the results would be sort of hard to interpret. I’d be curious to see breakdown by demographic + median rather than average.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 11:21 PM
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Dark chocolate syrup + milk + seltzer = delicious egg cream I can see it totally falling apart without the milk thought
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 11:08 PM
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Single mother usually means you’ve got kids who are minors, or— possibly a little older, if they are still at home and very reliant on their parent Still, a woman with a 15 year old is less likely to be ruled out as a relationship option due to the single mom status, than a woman with a 5 year old. Plus, most of the guys that the first woman would be looking to date will have a kid/kids of their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 08:32 PM
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Yes. She was a good mom, used the money to give me the best life she could. She worked hard but didn’t make a ton of money herself, and my life was a lot better for the fact that my dad provided additional income. My dad wasnt great growing up, but I do recognize that he cared about me, he showed it partly via generosity. He has softened over time and we get along much better now.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 07:59 PM
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At least you can hold hands with her now (?)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 05:23 AM
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Personality matters, but not all favorable personality traits increase attraction , and some neutral/mildly unfavorable personality traits diminish attraction more than most guys realize.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 12:45 AM
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This is true Is also not masculine
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 12:30 AM
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Depends on his frame and where he gains the weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 12:17 AM
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Being kind but fairly outcome independent
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 12:15 AM
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I only mean from a visual standpoint. I wouldn’t touch a 20 year old with a 10 foot pole lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 09:34 PM
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25 is more attractive than 20, but 20 is probably more attractive than 30
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 07:57 PM
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Deal breaker
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 04:13 PM
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I tried that once. It wasn’t for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 05:50 AM
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men wanting to get married mid-late 20s and have kids late 20s/early 30s is pretty common. Men wanting kids under 25 is unusual outside of conservative environments though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 02:58 AM
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Fleeting thoughts are one thing, leaning into it is more disturbing and causes skepticism about a persons motives.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 08:11 PM
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A lost art! Ya gotta 🦚
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 11:07 AM
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The last time I tried this I stepped on about 15 peoples feet.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 10:51 AM
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I just get lazy cats lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 03:34 AM
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Yuuup
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 05:46 PM
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If you want your partner to be enthusiastic about sex, don’t marry a women sexier than you lol Women have less raw libedo and are more sexually selective. If you care a lot about this, the most logical thing is to marry someone less attractive (but obviously attractive enough that you still find them appealing to sleep with)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 05:17 PM
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Men cheat with less attractive women than their partner all the time, they just hope they won’t get caught Also, if your wife is more attractive than you, she’s likely to be less attracted to you compare to a woman equal in looks or less good looking than you. Less attracted generally means lower frequency or less enthusiastic sex, which certainly does not de-incentivize a man from seeking sex elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 05:10 PM
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This does not stop cheating lol Clearly, many guys are faithful but only pairing with less a less attractive guy does not mean he won’t cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 05:03 PM
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Aww
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 04:58 PM
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On average, they are more selective on RMV, less so on SMV. I wouldn’t call it bizzare They are better at picking up on certain things that will be deal breakers down the line, than a 20 year old, and know it doesn’t kill them to be alone in the event that they don’t find a partner that meets their standards. I’m happily paired up, but if you sent me back in time 15 years , I wouldn’t have date half the guys I went out with when I was younger, because I no longer have a crap sense of who Id be i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 04:44 PM
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I have no clue among the people I currently know, and I know less about male than female numbers. 10 years ago It would have been a girl who was maybe a 9, and an alt, bi girl with divisive looks- like a 7 to the right people and maybe a 4 if she weren’t your type.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 12:36 AM
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Your not wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 12:28 AM
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Being a top 10% earning 60 year old doesn’t make dozens of 40 year olds sexual attracted to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 05:00 AM
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I don’t think this is going to be satisfactory to them. A lot of guys won’t want to do the work and there will be a lot of women who probably still won’t be attracted to a man of the equivalent rank. A female 3 may just prefer being single to being with a male 3.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 01:40 AM
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This isn’t really on the table. They know top men aren’t making this concession, and also that a lot of guys would still go without sex due to women retaining the option to remain single
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 10:36 PM
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That because you shoved so many different snacks in there over the years. Now you can barely register a standard candy bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 03:47 AM
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The average 40 year old women is not attracted to the average married 55 year old man. So if we only focus on most then sure most man can't do much, but if all the women sleep with the same 60 year old above average men, then he creates reality for duzens if not hundrets of women, it's very few men, but it's the reality of many women. If dozens of 40 year old women are sleeping with a guy, the chance that it’s gonna be a 60-year-old are probably less than than 1%, unless she’s being paid or coer…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 02:38 AM
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I am in my 30s, it’s not considered to be weird. Mid 30s women are mainly dating men within a few years of their own age. May I ask where you are from? There seems to be a culture gap?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 12:24 AM
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For women at best sex is a nice bonus but for most women it's not the primary thing they want from a relationship. Even when getting desirable sex is not a big motivator , wanting to avoid undesirable sex is still a motivating factor for most people. The average 40 year old women doesn’t want to get stuck having to sleep with the average 55 year old
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 11:23 PM
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Women dating same dude + women dating each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 09:14 PM
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Probably manageable
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 06:27 PM
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They created an artificial woman-shortage to keep you distracted. The rest of the women are in stasis on Mars.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 04:41 AM
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I was thinking of them in different terms lol No one bats 100, but I’d rather not date someone whose currently into another girl, particularly if she’s a constant in his life I really meant guys who have negative regard for women in a general sense
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 03:47 AM
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I don’t know why people are so proud of it lol I’ve even had someone say, “would you prefer I was dishonest instead?” No dude/lady, I just don’t need to hear your full stream of consciousness lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 03:35 AM
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Outside of more specific compatibility stuff, I think of: -guy who are proud of being jerks/ who regularly say things like “I’m just being honest,” when they are clearly being unnecessarily rude. -anger prone -guys who are clearly crushing on female friends -guy who seem to actively dislike women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 02:51 AM
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Please no. Spare yourself young grasshopper
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 02:38 AM
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It’s enough to make a grown man cry Cut it out it p***y
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 02:31 AM
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Fair questions Should the number of sexual partners that each individual in a couple has had be as close to equal as possible? No, but preferable to have a similar type of history/or outlook on intimacy Ex: If one person had 7 partners and the other 4, but they were all from relationships, that’s a reasonable fit. If they are 7 & 7 but one is from relationships and one is all casual, that’s more likely to signal compatibility issues. Would it be degrading otherwise? Why or why not I don’t think …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 01:25 AM
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I appreciate that this is not the case. The dominant model of monogamy for most of human history was built largely upon making it infeasible for women to stay single or to split up, so we would have to come up with something new and accept that a lot of people are still going to be without sex/relationships if we aren’t forcing women to pair with guys they don’t want to be with
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 12:11 AM
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This is the most specific non-kinky preference I’ve ever heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 11:45 PM
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Romantic ♥️
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 11:40 PM
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🔥
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 11:40 PM
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I can’t either at the moment. I kind of want to make one up. How about time pieces? My partner is tall with broad shoulders and a good constitution; a grandfather clock among mere sundials.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 11:20 PM
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The current system has its problems but it also allows people who aren’t comfortable with their options to opt out. This is priceless and women are horrified of losing this choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 11:08 PM
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Well, what level of freedom are you comfortable giving up to have dating be better for society as a whole? None that involve having an unwanted dick in me lol. If I were back on the market I’d probably be okay with limitations on OLD, things like that
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 11:00 PM
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Ya, I think 29 is actually the same, it’s just where you stop seeing the trend of women preferring guys a couple years older.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 10:55 PM
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The okc study everyone quotes says women initially find men 1-3 older years look best to them, but then it flips starting at 29, at which point women say men their age to a bit younger look best to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 10:24 PM
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14 is young even from an amoral perspective. They are still sort of puffy in the face and gangly in physique, and not terribly well suited for pregnancy or child rearing. Even among men lacking in discretion, it’s really rare to see adults looking at 14 year olds, barring those who look noticeably older. You see more powerful older women actually being attracted to guys as young as 21 or 22 in a way you wouldn't have seen before. I don’t fit the bill for a powerful older woman haha, but the aver…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 04:55 PM
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It is hard to gauge how much is culturally influenced v. natural standards. I do also question if we are developing/aging differently than in the past, obviously due to lifestyle, but also maybe due to underlying factors. The average modern guys looks “softer” and less masculine (at least to me) at 30 than 25, obviously any weight/fitness changes are a big factor The skin aging is mostly dynamic lines, 20 year old women do seem to be put off, but as you acknowledged this may be past the point of…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 03:38 PM
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Do you think it’s possible for there to be a divergence here between peak for average men and exceptional men? Rough theory: The average man skews toward presenting as less robust toward 30 ; with changes in hair, skin, teeth (they get shorter due to wear), and potential for weight gain etc, which, most of the time will trump the positive benefits of the remaining filling out that occurs between 25-30 A man with quite good genes, who stays fit may actually look better at 28 by “natural” standard…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 07:04 AM
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This is on the later side. Id think of 25 as visual peak and also the point by which most of the non-appearance attributes that inform desirability tend to be pretty well established. Factors that build on this to make a person more appealing for a relationship continue to develop for longer though, I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 06:27 AM
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I’m a woman, but I started taking the test and couldn’t stop. Here ya go: You are Chad Beta. You have the personality of a chad but the looks of a beta male. Don’t worry, even though you look like a fat piece of shit your chad personality will carry you through life. You probably are part of a frat, and can talk to chicks at parties. Your chad-ness will still carry you through life, so enjoy graduating with an Economics or Political Science major, getting a desk job, marrying an ex-sorority girl…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 03:26 AM
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Omg! I lost it at “those fucking toe shoes” I really enjoyed this, thank you for sharing
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 03:22 AM
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… annnnd then she gained it back after they broke up (I’m guessing because that’s how dieting usually works) lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 02:27 AM
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You got new legs lieutenant Jimmy!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 02:22 AM
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I can’t wait!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 02:20 AM
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Lol! My boyfriend and I have very different attitudes in this domain lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 02:17 AM
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Affairs take time, energy, and potentially resources away from the family, and damage the bond you that you share with a potential husband. I don’t think that making a concession on monogamy is likely to serve you well from a family perspective. You don’t really need someone wealthy, you just have to do well enough between the two of you to afford a lifestyle you are comfortable with for your (future) kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 12:35 AM
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You sound young/newer to dating. There are great people out there and also plenty to watch out for. Kindness is important, but you need to look out for yourself too. Some people will be higher risk (an older rich person would definitely fall under this umbrella lol) and you will need to vet extra hard if you are going to consider dating them, recognize potential issues, and be honest with yourself if something is a dealbreaker. Also, give credence to what you actually want and need and what kind…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 11:31 PM
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No, Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 10:52 PM
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she acknowledged physical attraction, and money plays a big role with relationship appeal, but much less so, actual attraction. He has a wife and family, so unless he only married and had kids in the last couple of years, he was not an incel or anything before.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 10:47 PM
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I mean why are you assuming he wasn’t also attractive when he was younger (most older attractive people were) , and that this is a response to lack of attention when was younger, which isn’t a necessary condition for a someone to engage in that sort of behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 10:24 PM
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That he was invisible when was younger? Why? He was probably more attractive then.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 10:16 PM
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Was there background provided? Most of the guys who are attractive to younger women, were attractive when they themselves were younger and that doesn’t stop cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 10:06 PM
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How old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 09:49 PM
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It’s more of an avian trait imo
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 09:41 PM
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Lupita, by far. The IG girl is certainly pretty, but I would consider Lupita to be beautiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 02:13 AM
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Sorry, I edited my comment*
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 12:01 AM
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And it seems intuitively obvious that when you do things that create such moments often enough, you are doing a kind of psychic and spiritual damage. This is a general truth, and applies beyond the bedroom to all sorts of things where you are not being your best self. I suppose the big question is how often this happens, and how this compares to the damage sustained from from other cases of not being your best self/ proposed alternatives. The thing that comes to my mind, is intimacy in a relatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 11:45 PM
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I only assumed you were an incel because you are donning a clown suit
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 09:21 PM
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Lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 09:16 PM
1

Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 09:15 PM
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It was the big earrings that sunk him, clearly
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 09:06 PM
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The main thing that comes to mind is that constant hooking up can become a source of thrill seeking/escapism, so going straight from the routine of hooking up to a relationship may leave a certain gap in one’s life that they may seek to fulfill in unfavorable ways— however I don’t think this is so much of an issue for people with a less recent hook up history As for the other stuff, it’s correlation and (often, convenient) assumptions over causality. To plagiarize myself: It’s more appealing to …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 07:21 PM
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Those are both attractive fat girls with (from what we can tell) good proportions even though they are obviously bigger than the ideal. The average guy is fat with an average face and average proportions; those women would certainly be out of his league.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 03:47 PM
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Not everyone is like this but it’s a real risk and the difficulty is that it’s hard to know how someone will respond to temptation if they have never experienced it. It’s also super unappealing when inexperienced people have a sense of superiority about not having been promiscuous, when it was not never on the table for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 05:45 PM
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“Newly single moms will suck your dick for a box of diapers.” The fact that you are looking forward to this is one of the most disturbing things I’ve seen on here. This level of anger, vitriol, and sociopathy is very unhealthy. Please consider speaking with a mental health professional. (I’m am not mocking you.)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 05:10 PM
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Second one easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 04:59 PM
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That’s because the average fat woman is still more physically arousing to men than the average fat man is to women. If she was too sexually unappealing to sleep with at baseline , the kindness isn’t going to make her sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 04:40 PM
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Kindness makes someone more appealing for a relationship if they already meet desirability standards. It doesn’t create lust for a women who is viscerally unattractive to a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 04:32 PM
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In the last 50+ years, people have become “better” in someways and “worse” in others. As you acknowledged, changes in appearance have affected female perception of men much more unfavorably than the reverse. Another key factor is that most of us have become worse at certain aspects of socializing— and this is probably more prominent in men, and causes men to take a bigger hit to their desirability than what women experience. Even historically, a man who was able to inspire lust in a woman better…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 03:18 PM
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Kindness makes someone more appealing for a relationship if they already meet desirability standards. It doesn’t create lust for a women who is viscerally unattractive to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 11:19 PM
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Kindness does not increase sexual desirability for women either.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:18 AM
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gotcha, I thought you meant it from a male-female relations standpoint
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:25 AM
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I see it as each person’s attributes basically inform their rapport and chemistry.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:05 AM
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Non-affluent women have labored in some capacity for a very long time. Outside of your economic concerns, what is your issue with more women having access to gainful employment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 03:44 AM
5

My gripe isn’t so much this, as it is wanting to punish people for not engaging in the sex that they don’t want
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 03:37 AM
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Women can be turned off even if a guy is genuinely nice, but the kindness is not the turn off Niceness doesn’t actually generate desire most of the time for men or women. This just doesn’t come up much for men, since they have a much higher libedo + lower threshold for a person being desirable enough to sleep with (doesn’t mean they would act on it all the time of course) Traits that contribute to desire for women would be things like reasonable mental and physical fortitude, having boundaries, …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 02:57 AM
13

What would be acceptable to you? If a woman had a couple hook ups when age was younger and a few ltrs (so let’s say she slept with 6 people) would that be a dealbreaker? More than that, I don't ever want to get involved with someone who when they were younger, would have looked down on me for stupid and shallow reasons, all the while chasing bad boys, not in spite of their bad character but because of it (Anyone who thinks an asshole is a great person to fuck because at least he's honest is a fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 10:13 PM
1

Dogs tend to gave a stronger scent and worse personal hygiene than cats
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 12:06 PM
2

Must be the 600 showers you take every week
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 03:04 AM
1

Nah
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 03:03 AM
1

Every time a fucking teenager hits on me, Imma blame it on TRP
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 03:01 AM
1

Body, F
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 12:49 AM
1

Same. :/
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 12:39 AM
4

It’s more appealing to sell that you can determine partner quality by a number rather than screening for the undesired traits, some of which probably lead to a high number… and this method conveniently skews toward assigning greater partner value to really young women….
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 12:18 AM
3

What if you have sex with the same guy a bunch? Does the N count of 1 still ruin her if she doesn’t spend the rest of her life with that dude?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 12:07 AM
1

Bruh.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 02:56 AM
2

Jesus. It took 5 + days for anyone to pick him up.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 02:43 AM
1

I want to hear this in Gilbert Gottfried’s voice
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 02:40 AM
1

Hah!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 02:35 AM
2

We only read at a first grade level so no one really knows what you are asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 02:25 AM
2

5’10 is not a “Manlet” haha If both the 5’10 broad shouldered dude and the 6’2 lanky dude pack on muscle it’s better to be the second guy. Without that, it’s better to be the first guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 02:16 AM
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Men don't claim they care about women struggles however nor is our sexual desire influenced by our mates success and competence like yours is. Hence the saying They largely do outside of the manosphere and very conservative environments. My take is that the phrase over exaggerates certain differences between male and female attraction. Women’s desire is far more influenced by attributes that would contribute to success (at least in the time humans developed) than by the success itself (the finis…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 01:22 AM
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I think this idea that men with struggles are worthless to women, stems from a couple of things: Some men interpret women , who they think should reciprocate their sexual interest (or at least be willing to have a romantic relationship that would involve some sex), not being interesting in them, as the women treating them poorly, and/or become very frustrated with the woman. Women are very sensitive to any kind of pressure to get them to pair up with men they don’t want to sleep with. If you try…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 10:53 PM
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I mean… men don’t sexually care about women’s struggles either. They sexually/romantically respond to women who they find adequately attractive and charming — which, like success, ties into genetics, your socioeconomic background, how you were raised, they opportunities you had, and transient qualities like age.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 10:36 PM
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The hotter someone is relative to you/ what you could get without money, the less likely she is to be attracted to you… so if you’re not having luck, you may have to make yourself more desirable in someway or sugar. There’s a middle ground between AF and BB; and it’s better place to live that sugaring and, it’s attainable, if you can make yourself attractive enough to women that you you find attractive enough. You don’t have to be the hottest person she could get- just attractive enough to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 05:53 PM
2

So you’re just calling his wife a beard, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 03:05 AM
1

U callin his wife a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 02:27 AM
1

You wouldn’t car a book… Wait, what!?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 02:26 AM
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Mr Darcy is autistic as fuck. I don’t understand how people miss this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 01:43 AM
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I guess it depends on his role in your life. In most cases, you can’t really become a new dad to a 15 year old, so trying to “parent” much isn’t a great idea, but if they act more or less like an uncle (not the kooky fun kind, but respectful and supportive with appropriate boundaries) it can be alright.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 10:01 PM
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It depends on your priorities. 18-25 is the best time to meet people for a relationship since so many of your peers (including the most appealing) are still available, and socialization factors (easier to meet through college or casual socializing, most folks don’t have kids yet, etc.) are generally in your favor. Of course, people defer focusing on long term dating in that time frame for different reasons. If those reasons contribute to an important goal, maybe it’s worth it. Is hooking up and …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 09:18 PM
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Context is key. You seem to gravitate toward women with higher sociosexuality and you are also older. A 25 year old with a count of 60 would be received differently than someone middle aged with that number.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 06:36 AM
0

In the relative sense, I.e. if you could date an attractive guy who had some ltrs, or one who’s slept with 60 people, women prefer the first.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 04:30 AM
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This is very true. Hopefully you have also learned things from past relationships that can be helpful going forward— you obviously don’t need to sleep with 80 people for this to occur, but I think generally, that a partner having had some relationship experience is preferable to dating someone with 0 experience— assuming that you are not both teenagers or extremely religious lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 04:26 AM
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This isn’t important to me at all, but you could also date someone in a better paying field or someone who is just somewhat more professionally successful (as opposed to someone with same basic success trajectory, just 10 years older).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 02:43 AM
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Agreed. Men in relationships may not consciously admit that even men outside the relationship have a higher expectation for how the home of the couple should look in order to be acceptable, v. the more lenient expectations they would have for a home without a woman… and not living up to other mens’ standards has consequences- often for the couple, rather than just the woman. I.e. if your middle aged boss comes over for dinner with you and your wife, if the house is only maintained to the “accept…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 11:17 AM
1

That would be impossible since 25% are bots I made this up.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 07:57 AM
1

The “3 day rule” just makes someone look more desperate than if they contacted you the second they got home from your date
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 07:54 AM
1

Consecutively?!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 07:52 AM
2

BRB… busy contracting diabetes
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 07:46 AM
1

That sounds awful. I sweat quite a bit, but hardly in that area, which I guess would explain why I’ve never had it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 07:41 AM
1

Dude. If I hear one more time how Batman’s parents died…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 02:58 AM
2

🔥
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 02:40 AM
3

I’ll never forget the day a tall man dumped me because he was irate I didn’t need a step latter to kiss him
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 02:39 AM
1

I felt this way until I got sick of constant gritty anti-hero’s. Superman’s vanilla but he’s got cool stories, and he’s actually likable
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 02:35 AM
1

What’s it like? I have no clue why I don’t seem to experience it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 02:32 AM
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Like 1-2 times a week. most are a pain to wash/dry nicely (as are the sweaters I’d pair the dresses with) and I don’t have any additional time for laundry
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 02:30 AM
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Take a shower
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 02:25 AM
1

Alexa Demie is higher than a 6
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 01:44 PM
2

If he didn’t reply to a text for 6 hours, I’d be a little concerned since he’s such a fast responder (even at work), but I wouldn’t be angry/ hurt or anything like that If he didn’t initiate a text for 6 hours, I wouldn’t even think about it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 03:32 AM
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He’s a really good example. Sometimes he’s looks like a very attractive man and sometimes he just looks like a handsome, sterile mannequin.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 02:31 AM
1

I was doing him a kindness by not posting them
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 12:53 AM
3

Aerodynamic
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 12:33 AM
2

Not this one Edit: who the heck downvoted me for acknowledging that I don’t have cute feet, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 12:33 AM
2

Right? No desirable 30 year old would have wanted to have a long term relationship with me when I was a plain 18 year old lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 11:42 PM
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So almost all women get to experience being priceless when they are 18, gradually lose value, and become worthless post wall. What? An 18-year-old 4, is still a 4, particularly to the demographic she’s interested in- 18-22 year old men. The average woman is never “priceless” just because of youth.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 11:28 PM
1

32, but the millennial bit is what matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 10:46 PM
1

Close enough
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 10:42 PM
1

What about me youngsterrrr
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 10:39 PM
1

Damn dude Woe is you
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 01:42 AM
1

The only one I can think of involves trauma bonding so I’m reluctant to count it. He wasn’t actually out of her league— both very good looking and social, but I think he made an impact that never went away.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 01:29 AM
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He’s very divisive, and not my type. He’s tall and in excellent shape though, with unconventional features and some people really like him.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 09:14 PM
2

A+
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 05:23 PM
2

Absolutely. He puts me first like 90 percent of the time and we’re each other’s favorite people. I didn’t know It was possible for me to love someone this deeply (other than my mom lol) or to be loved this much.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 04:34 PM
1

Her comment is explaining the general discourse that we see— it’s not her saying that she agrees with it all
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 12:21 AM
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You could very easily clean a few rooms a every day with kids with minimal problem, especially now with technology. My point is that this isn’t realistic for everyone depending on circumstances
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 12:17 AM
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There’s a lot of factors at play- ages and behavior/personality of kids, how much mess the kids make - active kids tend to be more messy, physical home environment, how much you cook for the family, access to decent technology- which is affected by class etc., how long you are able to keep your kids down for a nap/ occupied without active stimulation from mom or dad /in front of a screen (and family beliefs on how long and at what age it’s appropriate to keep kids in front on a screen), if you n…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 04:12 AM
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Solid comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 03:38 AM
2

This is fair. It probably helps somewhat that he’s a not-poor “giga Chad” (as the kids would say) so she’s clearly not settling, which hopefully will bring him some kind of comfort.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 03:25 AM
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Bump. If you are a stay at home mom to multiple kids, there may be a point in their childhood where it’s impractical for her be able to get done the majority of the house work (which is more intensive than the housework required for a home without young kids). Also, if he’s working 60 hours a week and he comes home and mostly chills out, then she’s working a lot more than 60 hours a week lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 02:43 AM
1

There’s middle ground between beta bux and af that is achievable for a lot of men. Agree x 100 on everything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 08:11 PM
1

You are chaotic in a fun way
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 04:39 AM
3

Refer to your comment history 😜
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 02:20 AM
2

You’re a mess lady, but I low key appreciate it
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 02:11 AM
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No. I have gotten a little frustrated if I’m with a reallly beautiful friend and a stranger is rude to me while being really nice to the friend, but It would make no sense to direct the frustration at the friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 08:50 PM
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Same. I think a lot of people over 30 feel like that. There’s a reason why most 30+ year olds don’t intentionally socialize much with people under 25, even when proximity isn’t a factor (eg. young coworkers).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 10:24 PM
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A lot do, but wouldn’t date them due to other factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 10:02 PM
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From a visual standpoint only, I’d say about 25-35 for older women. For younger women, more like 22-27/28. Under 30 is objectively most attractive, but women past a certain point start to see guys under 25 or so as kids, which shifts preferences slightly older.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 09:51 PM
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TRP usually means the sub to most people, which supports some pretty extreme views and takes a supposedly “amoral” approach while simultaneously espousing a very misogynistic outlook and proving guidance on how to engage in highly hedonistic destructive behavior. It’s basically the alt-right of eco psych. People with a moderate to semi-conservative views on evopsych (which is where you seem to fall) aren’t regarded by most to be “red pill”.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 05:17 PM
1

Ya back!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 03:36 AM
2

You could have both. Just get a boob-to-boob fat transfer.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 12:40 AM
2

Bump. Evolution also integrates traits like empathy and impulse control, but hedonism is much more fun to defend
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 10:18 PM
1

Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 10:06 PM
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Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 03:32 PM
3

A lot people find it very painful and/or gross— a surprising number of gay couples don’t even engage in anal intercourse. There are reasons that have nothing to do with attraction that a person who tried anal never wants to do it again.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 01:16 AM
2

Sounding, CBT, dressing up as each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 11:49 PM
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3, but I only know 2 of them well. Among those two, one seems decently happy. The other one didn’t start out BB, but the guy let himself go and also turned out not to be the nicest person. I think she stayed for the kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 10:50 PM
1

Like red necks?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 08:42 PM
1

Adopt, don’t shop
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 08:39 PM
2

Congrats on the coffee and breakfast in bed
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 08:36 PM
2

I’m too dumb to follow this one
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 08:30 PM
1

This is a fantastic typo https://i0.wp.com/post.healthline.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Alfalfa-sprouts-1296x728-header.jpg?w=1155&h=1528
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 08:29 PM
2

You could also theoretically freeze or boil folks
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 08:22 PM
1

Yo mama did
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 08:15 PM
2

Can you give an example?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 08:10 PM
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I’m female, and I wouldn’t refer to anyone that way in real life. People are complex, but I’m trying to make the point that women tend to be more sexually selective than men and that if you remove the economic and social pressures that were in place before, the majority of average women aren’t that eager to have to sleep with a guy who is equally or less desirable (relative to their respective sex) than them, for the rest of their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 07:34 PM
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“we met some bad bitches this weekend who could get men wrapped around their fingers and men ate that shit up.“ I’m always thrown off when guys say women love assholes without acknowledging the other side of the coin. A lot of men and women are drawn to those who are attractive enough (whether it be their looks or charisma) to get away with being rebellious, and get additionally drawn in by the excitement and opportunity for escapism that accompanies spending time with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 05:15 PM
2

That would partly explain the Olympic village lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 05:07 PM
1

I think the expectation will shift to non-top men dating women less desirable than them (who they are still attracted to) I.e. guy whose a 6.5 dating a woman who is a 5 with guys who aren’t attractive to any women who he would find adequately desirable (ex: a guy who is a 3 may not even be attracted to a 2) either not pairing up or end up in romantic, mostly non-sexual pairings.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 04:48 PM
1

I always think it looks silly
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 01:08 AM
2

Bad taste in food/drink, another person, or your own mouth? Edit: did you try the miracle berry tablets? They are supposed to make everything taste sweet.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 11:26 PM
2

Same. This puts a big target on your back. Some still took the risk, but this wasn’t the normal method of reproduction.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 10:23 PM
1

This is the correct amount of terrible and hilarious
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 10:19 PM
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I think she’s more alt-right/white nationalist .
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 09:49 PM
2

Aww. You could witness some really sweet moments this way…. but also some really gross moments.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 09:05 PM
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Women over 30, actually find men a little bit younger to be more attractive, on average, and it’s not uncommon for them to find at least some men who are notably younger to be very attractive, although this is stronger in men. Women have a lot more opportunities to get involved with younger people than do men— but they are less likely to actually pursue this. An average 30 year old woman could find and hook up with an attractive 23 year old on OLD, but most of the time she isn’t doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 08:58 PM
1

Holy shit. I’d be afraid of my own husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 08:05 PM
1

Just get your username screen-printed on a plain Hanes T-Shirt.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 07:58 PM
2

Widely variable. Some clearly below, some similar, and some above to the extent that I automatically assumed he had to be a player.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 07:12 PM
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I find that men are more likely to assume the women is below them/ appreciate her less if she approaches, even when things are equal. Im not into traditional guys at all, but I’ve always been treated better if the guy pursued.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 05:41 PM
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Why thank you young man!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 05:36 PM
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Hey! I’ll have you know I’m just as spry as an 18 year old following my 15 hip replacements.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 03:59 PM
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No, and If he tried I would do my best to stop him. I don’t want my partner or my friend getting shot or shanked.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 03:52 PM
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Nah, I think the idea of alpha-widows is overhyped, but my requirements include that a guy not be hung up on another woman- whether than be an ex or a “friend” he’s clearly way into.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 04:15 AM
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Did you hold frame?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 03:56 AM
1

Ehh. I wanted to say true, but status and desirability are no longer entwined the way they used to be, so if a blanket answer is needed, I’m going with false
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 01:00 AM
1

Wait, what… is he a fetus?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 12:48 AM
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It’s outcome independence. I’d Imagine that abundance would make it far easier, but it’s not necessary
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 12:39 AM
1

Sounds like hobbit foreplay lol It’s smart that you didn’t engage though. Gardening is awesome, wish I didn’t kill my plants!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 03:53 PM
1

Thot mom
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 03:46 PM
3

4 . You gotta spend 60 minutes on each quadrant
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 01:52 AM
3

Of course. My mail is always on time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 01:48 AM
1

I think what people are talking about is a type of outcome independence, but it’s not as simple as “just be confident”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 11:31 PM
2

I had a friend like this too. He said he wanted a small girlfriend, because “it’s cute that she’s small and Im big.” I saw the girls he liked and the least attractive one was around a 7.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 10:57 PM
1

LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 10:52 PM
1

Me, but I had some positive examples elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 10:41 PM
3

A lot of reasons childcare sexual access (still usually more than if he were single) some home cleaning/cooking staying under the same roof as his kids some social support/companion from the wife ( if she isn’t terrible) and possibly extended family divorces require energy and are expensive
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 10:09 PM
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I date one guy who really didn’t meet my main requirements, but I broke with him fast lol. He wasn’t a terrible dude, but he was a rebel without a cause-type mess.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 09:18 PM
1

Yup. They are also going to be unhappy with men for voting for this policy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 06:42 PM
1

I’d go with allowing financial abortions (while also allowing access to medical abortions) in this case. As discussed, I still don’t think the majority of men would be happy with the actual outcome of implementing this
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 06:40 PM
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This is exactly what I think. If you decrease the level of security in the event of an accidental pregnancy, then even the guys who appear “safe” become higher risk— this will not do those guys any favors in terms of female mate choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 06:22 PM
1

Finish him!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 05:14 PM
3

How do they get notified? They could just flee, dodge calls from the woman or, could have given fake info from the start. I think he would need to be served or something like that and if inaccessible, then he is functionally waiving the right to financial abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 05:07 PM
2

How late into the pregnancy could they declare financial abortion? And what about abortion for rape cases?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 05:01 PM
1

Good points. A lot of women don’t know they are pregnant early on.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 04:53 PM
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Info: what the terms and accessibility for financial abortion and medical abortion (I.e. how late is in acceptable in the pregnancy? are the rules any different for married couples? Is abortion readily accessible and free? Will there be any changes to social support programs?) For what it’s worth I don’t think men will be very happy with the outcome of legalizing financial abortions
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 04:48 PM
2

Validation and social support by a female mate played a big role. You can’t replicate all this without a mate, but we now have the opportunity for better alternatives to help meet some of the needs that were fulfilled by a mate, for the men that will be left out of the the mating game. (Not that 80% is sustainable)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 02:16 PM
2

I’m more purple than blue, but I think the idea is really that you should be stable and adequately content before pursuing a relationship which should still add value and contribute to happiness , rather than relying on a relationship to lift you out of a bad place.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 11:04 PM
1

Now when I say cold approach I do not mean in a PUA sense. But in a sense that we walk up to someone we like, regardless of social context, and talk to them. If they show us that they don't want to talk to us I.e their body language, then we leave them alone. Most people aren’t great at picking up on this body language and backing off, especially people who are a little less socially aware- a demographic that would be more heavily represented among those temped to go the route of cold approachin…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 03:01 PM
1

I’m dying 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 06:03 AM
1

Lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 01:08 AM
1

Many do, but some see them as too childlike and kind of get the “ick”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 12:58 AM
2

So mushysauce is just a stage name? In all serious, that makes sense that you wouldn’t want a kid to deal with the same stuff you did. Some couples choose a new last name for the family when marry. Might work for you if you plan on marriage/kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 05:02 AM
1

It’s a strong French name. Don’t be ashamed!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 04:11 AM
1

Oh god, the top comment is a fat bastard quote.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 03:41 AM
3

I don’t think it’s just the abundance of options. Many big celebrities / hyper-successful people tend to be prone to extremes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 03:37 AM
0

He sounds ace or gay, super religious, or like he has a trauma history. She’s gotta have a talk with him and figure out if it’s something workable or if they should wish each other well and going their separate ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 03:19 AM
1

You gotta live to be 115 and only sleep 2 hours a night? Can’t doze, gotta love
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 03:09 AM
1

I think that’s season 3, which would make her like 15.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 02:42 AM
2

Can we exclude minors from this stuff? I know it’s not a sexy photo or anything, but I think it’s best to omit them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 02:36 AM
0

It was still a big risk on her part to proceed, hoping that you wouldn’t be badly affected by it. I’m glad everything worked out alright in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 02:49 AM
1

This is fucked dude. I’m sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 01:32 AM
1

They don’t a necessarily care in the abstract sense, but functionally it ends up mattering a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 09:54 PM
1

You have a much greater chance that the person likes you romantically/as a person, and has a least some lust for you, in an actual relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 05:29 PM
1

The biggest difference is the filter/editing and good angles/lighting (which is not gender specific, although I don’t recommend that men or women enhance their photos to that extent). . She wouldn’t look nearly that different from the before shot if you saw her in person. She’s also still nice looking, if a bit plain, in the before shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 06:18 PM
1

It actually sounds terrible
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 06:29 AM
1

That’s fair. And just to clarify, I mean that the situation is a bad one, if she wants sex— not that your friend was bad
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 03:09 AM
3

The women that go crazy over it are likely not your demographic if you prefer virgins, since most of them probably lost it in the 1950s
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 03:01 AM
3

If she wants sex, that’s pretty bad If she’s not terribly interested, then they might be fine— they still get love and companionship with someone they really like, without expectations for unwanted sex
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 02:53 AM
1

Hopefully there’s enough attraction to actually want to sleep together :/ I’m glad they otherwise seem alright.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 02:38 AM
1

Yea, sorry for lack of clarity
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 02:32 AM
1

At all?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 02:28 AM
1

I’ll just leave this right here https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/40/Gesichter.JPG
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 12:35 AM
1

Men, as a group, care more about youth than do women, but they are also higher in libedo, lower in selectivity, and mid to lower tier (desirability, not human value obviously) guys are currently, having a heck of a time trying to get consistent sex/dates from women their age. So if just asked on a survey, if they would date 35+ (rather than if they prefer it, or if they even could get a 35+ year old) there might be more yes’s than you think. There’s no age range, but the study does mention that …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 10:48 PM
2

Oh, I’m behind then. How embarrassing. Ever since I concussed myself falling off the CC, I just can’t keep track of things like I used to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 09:59 PM
2

Again, cognitive dissonance. Either “brains don’t develop until 30 and nobody can/should have agency (voting rights, ability to procreate, ability to fight in a war, own land, etc) or be responsible for their actions”, or “this fun bit of science is nice in theory but doesn’t fucking matter in practice, because people have been making big decisions in their teenage years across all societies for the last several thousand years now and the world keeps spinning.” In which case women in their 20’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 09:52 PM
2

If your balding at 21, you will still probably have more hair then when you are in your 30s. At that point though, baldness will be received less harshly by your peer group. It is a given that people care about how old a prospective partner looks relative to their own age . You shouldn’t lean into this - I.e. - I won’t date him/her because they have graying hair (even though I find them attractive), but you also shouldn’t force yourself to date someone you aren’t sufficiently attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 07:37 PM
1

I think it’s brad, but I like Melvin a lot better.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 05:26 PM
3

A lot of men are better looking at 25 than 18, but the older you get past that point, the more you acquire signs of aging that are going to be off putting to young people and aren’t going to be countered by the positive benefits of age, from the perspective of a young person (in terms of actual attraction). Thus, for the majority of men seeking a women significantly younger, even if she is a lovely person and admires you, she is less likely to have real attraction toward you, than she is toward …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 04:56 PM
2

You forgot the megalodong
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 04:41 AM
6

how much more sexually selective women are how hard it is for mid and low tier men to attract women how often women pair with men they love but don’t have a lot of desire for how much higher male libedo is how many men want women to have sex even if they don’t want it in order to satisfy meet male desire for sex (not majority but sizable minority) how many men don’t seem to like women as people (not majority but sizable minority)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 03:35 PM
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I think its a sore spot, because, for a lot of men who arent sexually successful, having sexual access to then women they want, would come at the cost of those women having sex that they find unpleasant—- and we made women do this for a massive chuck of history (and they had to deal with unpleasant financial and social pressure and perception of inferiority that were intentionally amplied to make women pair up).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 09:48 PM
4

Try to focus on feminine silhouettes and looking elegant/well put together with excellent grooming, but avoid items and styling that look too precious/ delicate/frilly/overtly “girly” as it will create a non-flattering juxtaposition. (These are generally guidelines, obviously there will be exceptions) For example: I have larger hands and it really helps to soften their appearance them if I keep my nails medium to long with an oval shape and sheer pink-ish polish, and I can get away with wearing …
/r/RedPillWomen09/06/22 08:36 PM
4

Start looking early- it’s when you will have to most access to find a good partner since people will gradually leave the dating market over time, but imo don’t actually get married until you are at least 25 since people can change considerably between 18-25. Prioritize your wants v. needs but don’t settle for something that doesn’t add value to your life. Don’t subscribe to a sunk cost fallacy
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 03:12 PM
1

I’m 32, range is probably 28 to 38, but with a strong preference for 30-35. Biggest gap I’ve ever had was 3 years, and my long term partner is my age which is perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 01:48 AM
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The biggest commonalities have been lower social skills, some awkwardness, high levels of passivity, and below average to a little above average looks (mostly leaning towards average to a little below average). Being passive aggressive has been somewhat of a common thread, but there’s also plenty of the guys who weren’t like that. The two guys I am most familiar with. Slim without muscle, average to pleasant face. Early to mid 30s. 5’8 or 5’9. nice guy, responsible. middle class-ish, white colla…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 04:25 PM
1

Wep, I’m boring as fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 04:39 AM
1

Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 04:21 AM
1

Don’t sexist against me!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 11:01 PM
1

Re: Q4W Nah. I have more frustrations with men as a group than with women as a group, but I certainly don’t hate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 10:59 PM
1

2.5 years
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 10:09 PM
1

The money part did not show up for me what I got the comment notification Re: its already the reality:woman(include Stacy) and chads have a lot of kids, I was trying to clarify that it wouldn’t be what we see now (variety of women including, not limited to “Stacy” pairing with the most desirable men “Chad”, which, by nature, involves a lot of sharing top men, either across time or concurrently) but rather “Chad” pairing monogamously (probably with “Stacy”) and having a lot of kids in that relati…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 05:43 PM
1

Women still do the majority of child care. I’m not advocating for hooking up, but rather for monogamy between parties with mutual attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 05:04 PM
2

Same!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 05:22 AM
1

You are comparing apples and oranges -You want a women who meets your criteria for being smart and well educated (totally reasonable) , but you dont care as much about her actual career/ financial achievements. If you want her to do more of the homemaking/caregiving in your shared future, then this standard actually serves you because if she made more money or had a much better career, it would be harder to ask this of her, and you would be more likely to end up outsourcing help and/or pitching …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 03:09 AM
1

Natural Botox pill
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 01:23 AM
1

I figure, my financial and education/career success should make up for the deficit of being overweight to where it kinda balances out So the difficulty here is that those achievements make you more appealing as a partner but they don’t make you more sexually desirable, so you can’t really leverage them to get a more sexually desirable (in this case, thinner) partner unless you are prepared for consequences, like her being less attracted/enthusiastic/physical , even if she admires you. If you car…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 08:58 PM
1

Only 3? Ya softie
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 08:31 PM
1

Cat pill
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 05:55 PM
2

It’s all clear now. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 05:54 PM
7

Many of these things come from social experiences, but they don’t necessarily have to be romantic or your experiences. Being a good observer, as you mentioned, is key. Having some relationships experience is helpful, but people grossly underestimate how much we learn from other sources.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 04:14 AM
1

As in a 5 before the boobs, or she’s a little below average otherwise and the boobs bring her up to a 5?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 01:18 AM
1

This is lovely :)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 01:04 AM
2

Being a stay at home mom is beautiful, not everyone has to work or go to college. You are missing out with not having friends though. Friendships are valuable in themselves, and it’s it also better that your immediate family not be your sole source of support/socialization.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 01:03 AM
2

The amount of drugs he would have to take for that to happen would be unbelievably dangerous, so yes
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 02:15 AM
1

You chose who you date. Sometimes you proceed in spite of risks, which is okay, but there was a not-insignificant risk in dating a 20 year old, as a 27 year old, that the relationship dynamic and the younger person’s level of assertiveness would change with time. It’s understandable to be sad but complaining to her or her mother that she was more “quiet” when they met is a little silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 01:03 AM
1

He has a right to his feelings, but it’s relevant to acknowledge his role in what was a fairly predictable outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 12:08 AM
1

That makes sense, but he also made the choice when he was 27, to get together with someone who was still in their very formative years, which increases the odds that she would notably change during the relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 10:22 PM
1

Very, though not in a fancy way. We always hold hands, cuddle, say “I love you”, go on little dates (even if it’s just Pizza) and try to engage in thoughtful gestures.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 10:03 PM
2

I’d feel really emasculated and I’m a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 09:25 PM
31

Reasons/context matter more than number, but generally a low to moderate number is better than high
/r/RedPillWomen02/06/22 07:13 PM
62

The vaginmus response is very concerning. It’s okay to be kinky, but a one sided kink of leaning into your partner’s intimate distress from a medical condition (that originated from childhood sexual assault of all things), causing them them bled and cry, is very dark. The bdsm crowd is even against that stuff.
/r/RedPillWomen01/06/22 10:12 PM
1

Both parties desire more, but men don’t do well with the reality of being with a woman who is “more,” if that makes sense. Men will try to go for women more desirable and charismatic/socially competent than them, and sometimes they achieve this, but they don’t like being in a subordinate position in a relationship, which tends to happen if you date someone above you. Women are actually okay with the man being higher/dominant in the relationship, if it’s done respectfully.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 07:40 PM
1

If Emily the Strange were a sex offender
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 11:21 PM
2

Same experience. My watching Startrek seemed to be taken more seriously than a friend’s intricate makeup skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 11:15 PM
1

Jesus, she’s unreasonably pretty for someone whose midsection is currently shaped like a basketball
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 10:55 PM
1

He must be wearing the wrong shade of foundation
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 10:48 PM
1

My tubby wife and I take offense to this remark. Edit: hell yeah on the Lana flair!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 10:43 PM
1

Your right, it is twice a day! My dental life has been a lie!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 09:41 PM
3

It’s often things that seem minor or unnoticeable to outside parties, but are unpleasant if you are trying to date someone not brushing teeth 3x a day not flossing or paying attention if there’s stuff in your teeth unmanaged bad breath/ unpleasant tasting mouth *** not showering often or thoroughly enough/ wearing deodorant frequently enough to smell fresh if you are in close proximity or being intimate with someone- your co-workers might not be able to pick up on it, a women you date will*** vi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 06:31 AM
2

You’re clearly pretty, I don’t really get the unfavorable comments
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 05:36 AM
1

Mens hygiene products sound like sports drinks or alcoholic beverages.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 11:38 PM
1

It’s got boring packaging and costs slightly less? Edit: once he finishes it and if he’s amenable, you could put your most gender-neutral gloop into his manly bottle
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 11:12 PM
1

Potentially B, depending on what “kinda cute means” (If it means slightly more attractive than the average dude in my area [overweight and not well put together] , I’m probably not to find him attractive) and depending on if I’m the best or the only one I’m going to get- best is fine, but if I’m the only one he’s going to get, that’s a red flag
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 04:16 AM
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The biggest personality traits that women are attracted to are charisma and social competence; these are hard to fake, and they are also things that make sense to actually work on for reasons separate from dating/sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 01:04 AM
1

I’ll have the steamed broccoli please
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 11:32 PM
1

Damn dude, this is bleak. Gets me thinking though. Even if the desire to have sex and children were that low, I think the majority (though perhaps not the vast majority) of straight women would still like to have a loving but non-sexual, maybe non-cohabitating relationship with a man who meets her non-sexual standards, which are easier to meet that the sexual ones. Resource standards would also drop if women don’t expect to cohabitation and have kids with these guys. The harder part would honest…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 11:05 PM
1

Edit: I re-read your comment as I misunderstood it the first time. I value your input, will definitely give this consideration. Im inclined to believe that a women would be happy, or at least happy enough with a man a couple points higher in the relative sense, but I’m increasingly thinking that 1 point would be insufficient, based upon on the inflation of womens “absolute” standards for male beauty and the decline in the looks of the “average” man.in our current climate.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 06:56 PM
1

I still actually think the natural equilibrium is for women to be with men that are overall 'above' them, but probably on average less attractive visually. Media has dramatically amplified things, but even at baseline, I think looks and desirability are so intertwined that I don’t think the average women would be truly satisfied with a less attractive man unless there was significant compensation in other domains of male desirability (charisma/ a positive type of dominance) which is hard to repl…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 11:23 PM
1

These are all really good points. I’m optimistic that if women have access to men they find adequately desirable who are willing to engage in a relationship in good faith, the women will be willing to relax their standards on some of the other criteria, I.e. education, intelligence, and to an extent, concrete resources/ achievement. Those things are all important, but I think there’s a divergence in those minimum standards based upon whether or not she finds the man to be sufficiently desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 10:13 PM
3

For sure. The bigger discrepancy was in compensation rather than labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 02:48 PM
6

The difference is that it wasn’t gainful employment :/
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 06:48 AM
1

We need responsible women in the conversation who have an eye on the overall needs of society. That doesn't necessarily mean being willing for women to make outsized sexual sacrifices for team human; but it does mean being clear eyed about the problems that widespread monogamy solved for humans in the past. And thus, being aware that we need to solve those problems somehow in the future, too. This can't be men looking out for men and women for women: both genders have to care about the happiness…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 05:27 AM
32

Romantic feelings are different than sexual feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:06 AM
18

Maybe an example would help? When I come home from work, my boyfriend and I cuddle, and we listen, I mean, really listen, with interest to what is going on in the other person’s world and mind. We also do a lot of things together (helps a lot that we have compatible interests, but we also try to take interest in what the other person likes and keep an open mind) but when we go about our plans it’s not solely about the agenda of whatever we’re doing— we just really like being together. We also th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 12:57 AM
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Men are bitter because of the inconsistency and even hypocrisy of policy that says the genders are equal or that gender doesn't matter This is a piece of it but I think a huge contributor is that men internalized the norms set by enforced monogamy (I.e.believing that if you were an appropriate member of society, you will get a female mate who is at least as sexually desirable as you) and then based their expectations and their worth on this, and they are struggling to reconcile this expectation …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 12:14 AM
1

Niles and Daphne didn’t really make sense together.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 12:29 AM
1

I’m more into Maris, personally…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 11:37 PM
1

Unless it’s a particular interest of his, I don’t think it’s necessary. 2-4: it really depends on the picture. Anything sexy or flirty isn’t great.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 06:35 PM
2

I’d be impressed. I mean, a bit concerned, but, impressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 06:24 AM
1

Figiting, pressure relief if the shoe is right/uncomfortable, or flirting
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 04:45 AM
1

Negative
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 02:21 AM
6

Right, but that happens to guys between 18 to 25, or up to the later 20s for late bloomers. Men don’t organically get more handsome in their 40s and 30s. They start to show age in non-favorable ways. It’s not anything terrible, but past the 20s most people just get gradually less attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 09:36 PM
7

For sure, but it’s a big, expensive glow up for those eligible. There’s even lot of things that cannot be fixed with cosmetic surgery (at least the kind accessible to relatively normal people) even in the event that you have the funds, and many of the flaws people have tend to become more pronounced with age.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 09:22 PM
7

45? A male late bloomer could look certainly better at 28 than 23, but unless you undergo a dramatic transformation- like major body recomp and good cosmetic surgery , the chances of looking better at 45 than 25 are extremely low.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 09:13 PM
5

I really like charisma on command for men (or women)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 08:17 PM
1

RMV goes up, smv gradually diminishes for most.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 08:09 PM
1

There are a minority of teachers like this, but this has not been the average teacher’s m.o. at least in the last century.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 06:46 PM
1

We need to do better by men and boys in terms of opportunities, teaching style, resources, and addressing the stark difference in outcomes, but it’s possible that even with appropriate supports, women may still do somewhat better than men in academia overall. As long as this is manageable, and we get to the point where men are doing well enough in school (even if it’s not quite as well as women) , and men have additional outlets for success, I don’t think it is terrible if women are somewhat ahe…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 06:40 PM
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It’s fine if women still take the lead in academics but the education system really needs a revamp. Women’s educational needs were ignored for a long time, then once there was the push to address them and to fully include woman in schooling, it became obvious and “convenient” that little girls are easier to school than little boys, and we basically defaulted to the easier approach even though it didn’t meet everyone’s needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 12:57 AM
0

Be mindful that weight fluctuations, especially fast ones, can mess with your appearance long term
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 11:15 PM
1

The husband dun fucked up
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 11:06 PM
2

Found it: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5MmKYlCazKY
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 02:48 AM
4

Same. I think there’s also a punishment element related to anger with women’s partner choices and advocacy for the option to be able to abort.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 02:07 AM
4

Agreed. It’s also not a good “gotcha” type rebuttle to a medical abortion, as there’s no ambiguity about the recipient of a “financial” abortion. No matter when you think that “life” begins, the entity you are trying to financially abort will become a full, sentient human who will experience the effects of the financial abortion while they are in that state.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 01:35 AM
5

Absolutely. We’re still stupidly in love after a decade plus together.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 10:45 PM
2

Do you feel this way about all forms of self-care/maintenance? Think about why you don’t like those tasks, and if there’s anything you would enjoy more that you could shift your efforts to. My examples: -I am this way with daily leg shaving because leg hair grows back so fast that it feels like a pointless time/effort sink (and neither my partner or I are bothered by me having some leg hair ). I also don’t have gorgeous legs that I’m dying to show off, which makes it an even lower return on the …
/r/RedPillWives17/05/22 06:15 AM
2

Are you attracted to him as he is? I’m not asking if other people find him good looking, or even asking about his appearance specifically, but you need to ask yourself if you find him attractive enough to want to be physically and emotionally intimate long term . If the answer is no I would think hard before proceeding. Yes, he may lose weight, but he may not, or he could gain it back (not uncommon, especially if someone has been heavy for a long time), and he could also resent your efforts to “…
/r/RedPillWomen16/05/22 10:52 PM
1

I guess it depends on how he would react If I didn’t want to and how persistent he would be. If you took out the physical component I’d pick number 3 in a heartbeat. Otherwise I guess #2, but live separately and take protective measures.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 09:35 PM
1

Do I have to sleep with 3?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 08:49 PM
1

But could she do it all at the same time?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 07:51 AM
1

It should fall under medical leave and the focus should be on advocating for adjustments to policy for conditions like endometriosis or PCOS that contribute to debilitating periods, rather than just giving everyone period time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 07:44 AM
1

Possibly helpful? https://dailycaring.com/8-ways-to-stop-an-elderly-person-from-driving-when-all-else-fails/
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 07:32 AM
1

I like to think he’s Pickles’ angrier brother
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 07:26 AM
1

If it were safe, hell yes
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 07:23 AM
1

Of course
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 07:18 AM
1

It’s not so much the number. It’s that the positive traits that contribute to a man’s aptitude to elicit desire in a lot of women are often appealing to a given woman- looks and charisma are the big ones. Women are also turned off by desperation/the prospect that a man chose her because no one else would sleep with him, and if someone’s sexual history is very sparse it can be a red flag, although context is more significant than a number. Some traits that contribute to having a history of a high…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 06:55 AM
1

Maybe someone set him up with an Alexa or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 02:15 AM
1

Geez, hopes she’s alright :/
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 01:38 AM
1

Anyone else wondering how pickles is holding up?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 01:37 AM
2

This + it depends on individual features. You can’t just erase a big nose or add a chin. They use prosthetics, surgery, and photo/ video retouching in the media for a reason. I think most women probably get up to about 2 points with skillful, nighttime makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 01:19 AM
1

These are good points. I do also think though that there’s a hope that women having fewer resources is going to make them more likely to pair up with men they are not currently willing to pair with , which is unfortunate in the respect that it is increasing pressure to have (non-violent, but) undesired sex .
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 10:49 PM
1

I find at least a third of youngish women to be attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 09:46 PM
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I’m not a fan of cold approaching, unless there’s been pretty clear indications of mutual interest. If a man has a reasonable sense of his league and there’s been indications of interest, and he knows how to speak to people,then, I’d think his rate would be better than 10%. Maybe 30-50? I’m not sure. It matters if he’s making people really uncomfortable v. approaching in a way that’s plausibly platonic and backing off if it’s clear they aren’t on the same page.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 04:30 PM
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On tinder, I wouldn’t really care as long as he wasn’t sending inappropriate messages. If he were approaching and getting rejected by a ton of people he knew in real life I’d feel differently. In real life, you should be able to pick up on social cues well enough that you don’t have a 90% failure rate, unless you are choosing to ask out people who are pretty clearly uninterested
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 03:08 PM
2

The correct term is flock
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 05:29 PM
2

I don’t think you should worry. Most of the best prospects-men and women- do have LTRs in college, but a ton of people still don’t actually end up marrying who they dated in college. The take away is mainly to put effort into yourself, dating, and socializing in your early 20s even though the market is competitive which can scare people off.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 12:39 AM
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It’s generally best to start in college for men and women. It’s the time when you get a ton of in-person social exposure to other young people with whom you share commonalities, which is a good way to meet a partner. Overtime more and more people get taken off the market, especially the most appealing people, so starting early is advisable. However, people do still change a fair bit between 18-25-ish, so actually getting married before the mid 20s isn’t always the best idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 07:55 PM
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I think a lot of the time it’s not overt lying, but tactful insincerity is common in these situation- ex: acting affectionate/ couply in a way that would make someone likely to think that things were moving in that direction or giving intentionally vague but hopeful sounding answers when asked about intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 06:55 PM
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Men physically peak later but it’s not dramatically later than women. In the early 20s men still look boyish, but by 25-28 you generally have the positive benefits of maturing with minimal unfavorable signs of aging. Past mid/later 20s, men are generally getting a bit less masculine looking over time - balding, greying, skin aging, harder to stay slim and maintain muscle. It’s certainly not a death sentence, but generally men, like women, still look best in the 20s. The things that change favora…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 05:54 PM
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I’d be confused as to why he told me. As long as I meet his desirability requirements, we’re good from a functional standpoint, but why he gotta go making me feel ugly?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 03:21 AM
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Nah. This is a fairly common mistake that very young people make, but it’s a bad idea. If an asshole is being nice you to, it usually just means it hasn’t been your turn yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 02:53 AM
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I don’t disagree, but it was probably much less strenuous on the men than on the women, and the women had to keep up with a lot physical pressure in their day to day life with running a household without modern technology, so help with managing a heavy door was likely welcome. Still, I’m sure they would have traded it for being able to have a little more agency in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 02:07 AM
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I agree with a lot of this, but will make the pedantic note that early doors may in fact have been stupidly heavy at a certain point in history. Physical inventions in the world were largely designed for men and when the world was horribly classist, making things user friendly for working class people (even men) was not a priority. The rich got the better versions of shit (some of which were still an ergonomic mess) or had staff to manage heavy/labor intensive tasks and items.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 01:38 AM
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Lol There was plenty of exaggeration for social control, but people do have the impulse to engage in “romantic” (tender, attentive, affectionate) behavior when they are in love. It doesn’t have to be expensive gestures though, it might just be surprising someone with their favorite foods, and cuddling while talking about the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 01:12 AM
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Not really for the average man, unless they end up in a situation where there are vastly more women than men, which doesn’t really happen unless people are quite old, due to technology now allowing us to easily meet people outside of our immediate environment
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 12:43 AM
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Omg, I’m dying 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 10:13 PM
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It’s usually that women don’t like being on the receiving end of sexual attention from men they find unattractive and most of the traits you described either impact sexual desirability in a negative (chubby) or neutral (nice, wholesome) way, even if some of those traits are clearly positive things in the non-sexual sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 11:13 PM
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Agreed. He seems likable and comes across a family man
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 12:53 AM
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I don’t know enough about them, but the host of hot ones, Benedict cumberbach, and Chris Hemsworth seem to have very nice personalities. Emilia Clarke actually stands out to me the most, but I’m not attracted to women lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 12:53 AM
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Yeah. The long engagement (with 2 kids) was probably also a slap in face. Not marrying after the second child was born makes it look like he proposed to appease her without intention to follow through.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 10:23 PM
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My theory is: She was hurt and probably pissed that he hadn’t actually married her. He was attractive, but less attractive than her and not the most attractive guy she could date; A more attractive guy came along while she was feeling insecure about the relationship, and she bit. Just a theory, and obviously a bad way to deal with things even if I’m accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 09:57 PM
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You are way too young to throw in the towel My backup plan would be to focus on other sources of fulfillment, and to be conscious to limit my exposure to things that could be triggering if I’m in phase of being actively upset about not having a spouse- ex: certain types of media
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 09:34 PM
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The wrinkly sort. This one is pale because she doesn’t get enough sun due to her office job and she’s has a little belly from eating take out because she doesn’t know how to prepare nutritious home cooked meals. https://envato-shoebox-0.imgix.net/d937/b75c-7e55-4b92-a658-7940837727ad/2017_230_1368.jpg?auto=compress%2Cformat&fit=max&mark=https%3A%2F%2Felements-assets.envato.com%2Fstatic%2Fwatermark2.png&markalign=center%2Cmiddle&markalpha=18&w=700&s=9e91b198bd1a32d2e6044461bf6907c0
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 12:51 AM
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Many of us get horrible osteoporosis and actually shrink into cats. We continue to spend time with our peers though, which is why the remaining 30+ “woman” are constantly surrounded by cats.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 12:35 AM
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“That's why there's so many stories of dads that just sit on the couch and watch TV while the mom does all the work. Its why so many husbands hate "date nights". While this behavior does not represent the average man, I know way more guys who act like this among traditional couples or older couples who actually got married when they (or at least the woman) were very young, v. somewhat more contemporary couples who married in the mid 20s- 30 range. If a man is going to romantically check out, “gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 12:17 AM
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Unwarranted/very early on: yes. In an established LTC: not at all, as long as it is genuine,I find it really sweet.
/r/RedPillWomen26/04/22 03:53 PM
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This will probably serve you in the future, but right now you might still look a little bit like a kid to the women your age. If you look 5+ years younger when you are 35, that would be a very different situation. If you can bulk up that would help a lot though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 05:28 PM
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I think it’s gotten a lot harder to date locally with the pandemic and with everyone having access to OLD, but it has a lot of advantages.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 07:41 PM
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I think the cc-fear is extremely overhyped, but the best way to vet for traits that would make someone a high risk partner, would be to date in your social circle or adjacent circles- ex: date a friend of a friend, so you have some insight into their dating/social history.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 05:37 PM
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Do you ever regret turning someone down? No, anyone I turned down either wasn’t appealing to me, or had enough red flags that I turned them down regardless of the appealing traits is there anybody you turned down that later turned out to be an excellent partner for someone else? Absolutely, but I still don’t think that we would have been a good fit
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 05:30 PM
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Agree with the point regarding physique, and also: *The catch here is that if you pay attention, women consistently give different answers based on whether or not they are looking for a hookup or an LTR, and when asked “what do you like” in a generic way, they almost always default to the LTR answer. * I’ve noticed this and I think may lend some insight into why women of all ages consistently pick men so close to their own age range when asked who looks best to them, while men pick much younger …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 10:00 PM
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We basically all hit top smv between 18-30, although certain factors that inform RMV (especially financial stability) increase after this point. I (32,f) think men are probably most attractive between 22-27, but I would never, in a million years, actually date a 22 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 07:14 PM
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Most favorable by far I have a child with presumably decent genes but don’t have to deal with the dude’s drama I have additional support for my child but have to deal with the reality of being a concubine which isn’t good for me, and in many ways, the child Tied: 4&5. Pick me’s with no self respect get treated like crap , and being a side piece doesn’t sound great either. If the side piece is permanent I’d pick 4 and get a divorce
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 02:28 PM
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Men keep the attraction (unlike women) but do lose respect for pick-mes. Pick me’s can get sex more far easily than their male counterparts, but usually still end up being treated like crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 10:23 PM
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I would stay as long as there is other physical help so I don’t I injure myself and also end up incapacitated. I’d want him to stay too, under the same conditions. As for the physical, I wouldn’t be okay with him having a girlfriend, but could probably deal with him seeing an escort periodically as long as it was kept very cut and dry. I don’t think I’d want either option for myself. Ultimately, he’s my favorite person so I’d choose a non-adventurous life with him, as long as I could still reaso…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 09:47 PM
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I’d do this for a friend if I were single, but I think the message might put people off online.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 05:41 PM
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Nah.I’m too damn neurotic. Pairing 2 neurotic people is usually a mess.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 09:36 PM
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There is too much shaming on both sides, and it is true that most women are turned off by submission, but kindness in itself is an appealing trait. It just doesn’t generate attraction and if you shame women for not being aroused by a man being a decent person, they often react by no longer perceiving him as being so decent. It is possible to demonstrate kindness while still appearing confident and appropriately assertive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 09:24 PM
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Why? They’re both attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 09:52 PM
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Many either cannot or do not want to grasp that, for most women, having to be intimate with men they find unattractive is actively unpleasant, rather than just neutral or less pleasurable than intimacy with more attractive men. Women not wanting these pairings often gets chalked up to women being willing to throw it all away to sleep with Chad , when the major driver is wanting to avoid getting locked into unpleasant sex. I think that some of this is projection, since, for most men, sleeping wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 09:30 PM
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Every significant other except for one who was probably a little bellow average, has been noticeably large (7-8), which is not the most physically comfortable for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 04:18 PM
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My friend’s cat once took out an owl. Uber Chad cat.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 11:47 PM
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It depends a lot of whether the status correlates with sexually desirable traits. It’s possible to be highly esteemed and successful without being sexually desirable. In those cases, status and accomplishment can still signify other appealing traits (drive, talent, etc.) but may not impact lust.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 11:35 PM
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No. It would likely expose the personal lives of victims to an extent that many would not want.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 11:11 PM
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I think a lot of men want to date women who are at least as visually attractive as they are, but most men still have sexual desire for women that are somewhat less attractive. Women are a lot more sexually selective with a lower libedo, so sometimes women just don’t have sufficient lust to be able to enjoy (or at least not find unpleasant) sex with men that are at the same or lower level of attractiveness, which is a huge disincentive to entering a relationship in a world where remaining single …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 10:52 PM
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I think he wasn’t that serious and hearing you were a virgin made him worry sex would take to long, or his conscience kicked in and he felt shitty about the prospect of trying to be your first time if he wasn’t serious about a relationship… or both lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 10:29 PM
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I meant it in the relative sense, but among any desirable woman that would sleep with them, Leo’s got a vastly greater chance of getting one who realizes during the act that she finds him repulsive, or who never actually found him desirable to start with. Hot gym guy probably has access to tinder and can still choose lots of desirable women, but while pretty reliably knowing that they actually find him attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 02:46 AM
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By women that are considered highly desirable? Probably. Most pretty 25 year olds wouldn’t want Leonardo DiCaprio.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 02:17 AM
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10 years ago I would have agreed, but he‘s old and fat now.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 12:38 AM
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High value usually just means highly sexually desirable. But ya, people get overly focused on this stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 11:37 PM
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I think he’s a sugar daddy at this point lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 09:14 PM
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It’s cruelty under the guise of honesty.
/r/RedPillWomen30/03/22 10:39 PM
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It is convoluted, but I took this post to mean that men end up disincentivizing women against trying to be the type of women that they idealize in theory. Women are guilty of this too, although the dynamics are very different. *Left to their own devices, men overwhelmingly prioritize female beauty and youth over almost all other criteria. * Right, but when they prioritize this above all else, they usually end up with partners who they find fall short in areas that end up mattering to them. They …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 06:27 PM
1

It sounds like you slept in there
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 01:54 AM
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It is possible for most people to get out of that bracket with the right actions, but for those who stay in the bottom 20%? Often nothing. The women in the bottom 20% will probably choose no relationship over pairing with a bottom 20% guy, at least if sex is a requirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 12:51 AM
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yea. I guess it’s easier to sell people on trying to sleep with a lot of young virgins, rather than advising people to screen by character before getting involved with women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 04:23 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 06:20 AM
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Not all men like this, but mine loves it and it makes me so happy. A sense of play is really valuable in a relationship. You mentioned good ones. My significant other also likes it when I get really excited about things, especially shared interests and become really animated. Sometimes my mouth can’t keep up with my thoughts at that moment and I’ll speak too fast, leading me to occasionally say a word incorrectly , ex: calling the refrigerator “the rator” if I couldn’t wait to cook. He thinks it…
/r/RedPillWomen29/03/22 05:22 AM
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TRP has a discord where you can communicate exclusively in binary.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 01:59 AM
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I regret to tell you that your boobie is at risk for endangerment
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 01:48 AM
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This seems logical to me also. The other interpretation is probably more favorable to some people because it makes the risk seem quantifiable and easier to avoid- if you can find someone inexperienced enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 01:28 AM
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Online it might not make a difference, assuming there are no unintentional hints on the profile. In person, a lot of people would pick up on his voice.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 01:03 AM
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It is harder for the average man to get a date, but I don’t think this really illustrates it because most transman and most crossdressing queer women will come off differently than an average cis man
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 10:06 PM
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What a lot of people (not you) aren’t looking at is the distress women experience if you require them to be intimate with men they find unappealing, and how high that threshold is, compared to that of a man. Womens higher leverage is not born out of hedonism— it’s born out of innately higher selectivity and the unpleasantness of what happens when that selectivity gets brushed aside, which happened for the longest time, and which terrifies women. It is less an edge and more the product of women e…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 09:38 PM
2

Go to nerdy or (if you believe) religious environment- there’s usually a higher concentration of the women you would like there.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 02:18 AM
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Hard to say how many. Most of the girls I know were very religious or a little behind socially.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 01:00 AM
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Definitely. That’s just been my background.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 12:52 AM
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I am coming from a place of privlidge and it is easy to come across as entitled or as though those observations are a value judgement. It’s actually infuriating to see how most of the guys who do date (or hookup ) significantly down in ses or achievement treat the women, and it’s not those woman’s fault. It would be like a female surgeon making the choice to date an average working class guy and then getting annoyed when he can’t keep up with the conversation at work party.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 10:50 PM
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This makes me sound like an asshole, but as someone from that world, attractive high earning late 20s/ 30s men are generally dating and marrying women of a similar type who are close in age. Some hook up with younger women or women who are very different in class/achievement/education/intelligence but that’s not who they normally marry or seriously date and when they do, they tend to treat them less well than they do their female counterparts.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 08:48 PM
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Im in agreement, just being facetious
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 04:24 AM
2

Yup lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 04:20 AM
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News, work, tv/ films, music, books/comics , food/cooking , animals, space, the ocean, gaming, family, friends, memories, religion, different cultures, gender dynamics, weird research rabbit holes, dental hygiene, dancing, generation differences, computers, appearances, strange hypothetical scenarios, and planning
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 01:21 AM
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Pretty sure my man’s favorite thing is cuddling with me and the cat at the same time
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 01:12 AM
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Yeah, this is one of the weirdest things I’ve seen here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 01:01 AM
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Just be a pretty 18 year old virgin with excellent homemaking skills . You should be able to prepare a 3 course meal from scratch by the time you graduate high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 12:52 AM
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Damn girl, If only I were single and attracted to ladies! (And were a man, I guess)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 12:49 AM
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There’s a lot to be said for recognizing patterns and one’s own contribution to the situation, but the dating landscape is also a big factor in dating outcomes. What if the pool of people who meet certain non-negotiable criteria has a lot of duds in it? You select and you act as carefully as possible, but it’s still a high risk situation and you may get burned quite a few times.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 01:56 AM
1

gift him a nice pillow
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 12:49 AM
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There’s a really big difference between not having sex with people you are repelled by and not committing rape and murder. We are built to be able to pretty effectively resist the urge to rape and murder without it causing undue trauma. Even in pre-historic times, we had to be able to manage this impulse pretty well because the alternative had a pretty high chance of getting us killed. Having sex with someone you find repellent is really unpleasant because your instincts are trying is trying to …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 01:08 AM
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I think it comes down to choosing the option that sufficiently meets your more primal needs v. aggressively pursuing the option (or options) that might be most enjoyable in the short term, but that actually exceed your primal needs and carry a major cost to your long term happiness or are very counterproductive to finding a holistically compatible partner if that is what you want. Of course, these options are not available to everyone. If you cannot find an overall compatible partner who you fin…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 11:48 PM
2

Never a problem for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 06:05 PM
1

Pitt, on the basis of sanity
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 10:12 PM
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If my boyfriend grabbed a guys butt while kissing me, I would be concerned
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 10:35 PM
2

Is this a euphemism? Fuck, I’m getting old
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 09:25 PM
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There is major selection bias, but there is also a risk is assuming that the men who are less in demand are valuing relationships and love over hook ups more so than the in-demand guys, when there is a stark difference in opportunity between the two groups. I will say that the in-demand men who prioritize relationships probably get taken off the market a lot faster, than the lower demand men who prioritize relationships, so among the single guys in the two groups who prioritize relationships, a …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 08:48 PM
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I think it varies by how conservative/what type of conservative they are, but I’ve noticed the same. Even old people are becoming less conservative based on the old standards though, so I think it’s actually getting better. I’ve met a surprising number of senior feminists!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 10:18 PM
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I’d have to go with women. Female friendships tend to be build on a more stable foundation in my experience— with there being significant exceptions, but since I have to pick one gender here, I’m going with women lol. If you asked in high school,or maybe even college, I probably would have said men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 12:53 AM
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“My bf isn’t the biggest or most attractive guy but he’s so sweet loving and caring and makes me feel heard” If any man with a shred of self respect read that he’d drive to the strip club that night” The appropriate response to being concerned that your gf doesn’t have enough lust for you is to go to a place where the women have 0 lust or affection for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 11:24 PM
3

But the plot is so engrossing! Don’t you want to know if his step mom ever gets unstuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 07:37 PM
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There are shades of grey. A 30 year old virgin probably isn’t the life of the party, but he could have a fairly normal social and work life and maintain normal adult responsibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 03:48 AM
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I think it would mostly agitate people. People complain a lot about the push toward P.C. language, but this actually means we are probably in a better time than 30 years ago to address the dick shaming issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 02:44 AM
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Dick shaming sucks, but vagina shaming isn’t a remedy to this. Preferences are fine, although there’s value in discretion in many situations
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 01:04 AM
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This is hilarious. Maybe they saw each other shortly after waking or just got an good enough idea from fluctuations during the day ?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 05:27 PM
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Men and women cannot both satisfy their imperatives without doing it at at least partially at the other's expense. It's the literal only thing that Rollo Tomassi has ever said that is not completely retarded. Cannot tell you why, but this hit me right in the giggle dick. Thank you 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 12:31 AM
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High value normally refers to sexual desirability. Making 100k provides security over desirability. If he dates younger and hotter than he otherwise could based on his own level of sexual desirability, that does get into betabux territory
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 11:40 PM
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Most affluent/UMC people come from families who are of the same economic class 🤷‍♀️ Young women also care more than ever about youthful good looks in men and are increasingly unwilling to betabux
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 10:51 PM
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I’m not blind dude lol They’ll often date someone in their 20s on a decent trajectory, from a “comfortable” family.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 10:37 PM
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I understand what you are getting at a bit more but still don’t think it holds up with 100k, unless that’s considered a crazy amount of money in your area. At 30, men still find their age-counterparts much more desirable than the reverse even if they would prefer women younger than them. Also, income itself doesn’t automatically inspire lust, it’s more of an RMV trait than SMV. no, i see a lot of 23 year olds date men in their 30s, that is very very common This is very different from what I obse…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 10:23 PM
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I get the argument being made but 30 is way too early. 30 year old women aren’t struggling to date men in their age range and 23 year old women aren’t usually looking at 30 year olds.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 08:56 PM
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I’m sorry you went through all that. It’s wonderful when a friendship successfully turns into more, but as you described, it’s really easy to get a premature sense of security or compatibility and people’s motives can be hazy or inconsistent. It’s great that you’ve taken time for yourself and are looking at others who could be a good fit for you. I wish you the best :)
/r/RedPillWomen25/02/22 01:22 AM
1

Depends on how it’s cooked. I don’t even like vegetables though and I’ll fuck up some well cooked broccoli.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 12:06 AM
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Ya, I knew a lot more men who probably fit these requirements based on family income/trust fund and a small amount of individual work, in college or shortly after than I do in my early 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 11:34 PM
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3? 3 others don’t clear 6ft. They are all married or engaged. It’s a fairly crazy requirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 11:32 PM
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I’d move on. If there’s always been flirty tension, and he’s made less effort than you in the friendship/dynamic, It’s hard to know that there even is anything to salvage. His behavior makes it sound like he may not necessarily care about you that much as a friend— I know it sounds terrible, and it’s not a reflection on you, but attraction can alter the course of a friendship, including bringing together two people who may not have become as close in its absence, which is frequently unsustainabl…
/r/RedPillWomen24/02/22 11:15 PM
7

Your such a gentleman ❤️ Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 01:03 AM
1

/are willing to defer to you Likable but relatively passive can do you in.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 09:49 PM
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Enjoying the replies on this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 07:50 AM
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You like much taller women? Por que?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 07:46 AM
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How fat are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 07:37 AM
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it could be that among the guys in the tier of attractiveness she wants (if she’s a 7/8, she could be looking at guys who are 8/9) it’s the jerks that are going for her. At the very top, men have the most leverage and non-jerky top men have a lot of relationships options, don’t stay on the market long, and don’t have to date down, so she may in fact mostly be getting attention from jerks in that part of the market.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 03:52 AM
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Men also prefer to commit to spending extended periods of time with women who they like talking to on a regular basis, find sufficiently interesting and intelligent, and with whom they have some overlapping interests/views, and this is just more common with women who are of a similar ses/background and who will get along with the women in his network, even if she isn’t top dog. Additionally, there’s a feedback loop with the rest of his social network and his own assessment of her— if he’s just a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 05:50 PM
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This + folks that go to to those schools usually have more overlap in formative experiences and lifestyle earlier in life than folks who don’t, which plays a big role in day to day compatibility. It’s important to find your partner to be attractive and a good person, but that doesn’t, in itself, create compatibility. You have to like talking with that person, and find them sufficiently interesting and intelligent, and it helps a lot to have overlapping interests/views. Also, in a more traditiona…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 05:13 PM
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Yes, your point about women having types, but it being hard to match them perfectly is well taken. Still, a 20% overall monogamous match rate for sex that is at least somewhat enjoyable is pretty dismal to think about I don’t think 20% is a limit at all, I do think that men who fall roughly below under the top 20% are more likely have to make concessions by dating down in domains where men usually avoided sacrifices if they could take it a different area like class/resources; the big ones are re…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 03:57 AM
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I’m mostly agree re: 80% of women. I’m basically using it as a very rough metric in the context of women mostly dating laterally or down in desirability and not having a ton of control in terms of individual mate selection, but even then It may not be an ideal figure. ( i.e.. it may take woman being at least 8/10 to reliably find their smv match desirable, especially if he is not her “type.”I absolutely think women desire men lower than an 8, but it’s more likely to require that he has some adva…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 11:10 PM
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For straight woman who could not land a man they both desire and love for an ltc? Maybe 1/3rd to half? It’s basically the deal that 80% of women got throughout much of history with a lot of the unpleasantness removed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 09:45 PM
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I was maybe a 7(?), I’m sure the experiences of a 9 would be different, but i didn’t cold approached at all often. I’m also introverted and probably a crap dresser which could play a role. I got hit on a ton working in retail, and fairly often by men that knew me, who weren’t attached to someone else, and seemed to decently like my personality. The only very attractive men that hit on me (9-10 range) were 95% of the time, the really forward dudes who probably hit on nearly everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 12:22 AM
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It depends on the person and each couple has to work it out themselves. Some people find it really unpleasant to have sex if they aren’t in the mood; some find it neutral or very mildly annoying. If it’s not a big deal then ideally you compromise for your partner and have sex more often.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 03:41 AM
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Same. I’ve learned a lot here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 12:41 AM
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Lol. I’m not actively dating but I feel the same. I totally get being cautious about exposing the fact that one is trans for safety reasons, but at minimum, you absolutely should disclose before any sexual activity. It’s a given that some people will not be okay with dating a transman/woman, and you have to allow them the option to opt out before sex occurs.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 12:36 AM
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There is some variance here. Girls who are into fitness and have muscle themselves tend to like more heavily muscled men than the average woman- which works because many guys into body building also have a higher threshold for the amount of muscle they like on a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 10:04 PM
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He is attractive, but would also be more appealing in normal posture/lighting, without a crazy pump; and wearing something other than a thong and a pound of oil
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 11:29 PM
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Does it count if I was a pre-teen?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 02:49 AM
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I love him so damn much. He’s the funniest, most loving person and I am in awe of his integrity. He’s hardworking, smart, helpful, curious, and has wealth of (sometimes random, which I adore) knowledge that he shares with me. He’s a great listener. I love him as a man and as a person, and he feels the same about me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 09:22 PM
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Could be an unintentionally tasteless joke or a light neg. Who knows, he could even be a little insecure about the age gap. Unless it’s part of an ongoing issue, just laugh and let it go.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 08:50 PM
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Right, and men would be more likely to tolerate conditions at the macro level that could diminish a person, if you balance it by giving them a family over whom they are in charge, which gives a sense of elevation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 07:41 PM
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I am probably applying the term working glass to a wider demographic than I should . we'd have to talk about really old school enforced monogamy that gives men an artificial leg up economically. My understanding was that this was the case for the majority of the 20th century. Inequality levels are high, but if you take a broad enough view of history, not outrageously high. My impression was that the times when inequality were the highest generally coincided with enforced monogamy being in full f…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 05:51 PM
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Less enforced monogamy = the less that working class men will put up with shitty economic conditions without acting out Addressing the growing economic inequality between the rich and the lower class could help address issues that accompany having a growing population of sexless men… but the government is not yet at the point of being willing to piss off the rich
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 07:09 AM
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This + economic inequality (which intertwine with race) with a high cost of living
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 05:55 AM
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Same. What would you suggest for addressing the needs of the folks you identified? Some will obviously need rehab, mental health services. Better housing options? The section 8 income limit is too high in my state and the wait list is too long. What about the consequence/deterrent function of prisons? Would some people become more impulsive when it comes to mild/modern crimes in their absence, or is there a preferable alternative?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 05:46 AM
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Probably not. I’m too neurotic to be a good partner for another person that skews neurotic (which a son of mine probably would). Mellow+ mellow= good Mellow + neurotic= Fine Neurotic + neurotic = nope!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:28 AM
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We need to get recidivism under control. If we can improve the prison system and rehabilitation outcomes, we’ll eventually need fewer facilities. What do you think about disenfranchisement for prisoners?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:14 AM
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Agree. My partner told me he’d understand if I got fat. That kind of thing should never be taken as a given, but I found it surprisingly romantic lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 10:32 PM
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That’s disguisting Croquet only
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 01:33 AM
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My mom only had sex once. 9 months before I was born. Yup.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 01:10 AM
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That might be the reason for the reaction though. I.e. if they think it’s shady that he leaked the video, they might be judging him more harshly
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 01:09 AM
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Maybe a 50% woman with a 60/65% man? That difference would need to encompass things that factor into desirability though. A man being 15% more affluent but he’s a 5 in charisma and looks and she’s a 6 isn’t going to work well.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 08:50 PM
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Aggression seems really different- the ability to control or sublimate aggressive impulses to a reasonable degree without a high level of distress is built into us because even cave folk (Is that the accepted anthropological term?)needed it so as not to end up getting killed by larger cave folk, or end up killing their annoying cave relatives for taking the good sediment pillow (sorry, I’m very tired) If our mating instincts evolved during widespread polygamy, if pregnancy was really costly, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 06:08 AM
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Im throwing around ideas. They could be a complete garbage fire lol What I wanted to convey with the aversion comparison is that they seems to be the same kind of strong avoidant impulse/alert system, that is designed to be difficult to push through. As opposed to something like aggression, which we are supposed to be able to adequately control -Female aversion: Get this person the heck out of me so they don’t leave genetic material that has a unacceptable risk. -Male Aversion: Get the heck out …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 04:24 AM
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It’s a tricky subject. That aversion has some similarity to what women experience with the men they really don’t want to be with. It’s could be stronger than that, but then men have the higher libedo and the higher disgust threshold, so functionally, things may even out. Enough “straight” men choose sex with other guys if they cannot get the sex they want; whereas women will just choose to abstain from having sex with non-appealing guys if they cannot get the sex they want. Maybe the fluidity co…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 03:19 AM
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It seems totally logical, I’m just surprised by the fluidity of how many men I’ve encountered. Maybe it’s easier for young men due to high T levels and high impulsivity?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 02:40 AM
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Do you think that would apply even with a straight up transwoman, or do you think it’s anything to do with the lady boy ambiguity? They’re kind of transfemine, rather than necessarily being women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 02:26 AM
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A transgender person- straight Just a sweet transvestite- not so straight
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 02:06 AM
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Bleh. I can recognize he’s objectively attractive but I just want to peel the dumb mustache off his face.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 01:50 AM
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A+
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 01:39 AM
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Yup. We’ll allot each of you woman so that you put up with these shit labor and living conditions without revolting, and we’ll stay comfy at the top. If you are so inclined, you can be kind of shitty to her, as long as you’re not disruptive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 01:32 AM
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They aren’t super rare, they just don’t stay single for very long.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 05:42 PM
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Yeesh. Protected only would make some sense, but both is weird
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 11:29 PM
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Wait. Protected, or unprotected sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 11:07 PM
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Hi, Our take is similar in a lot ways, but I think that there’s a greater range of body sizes that men are capable of finding sufficiently attractive within the scope of their biological preferences, as they intersect with environment/cultural forces . The big environmental factors would be things like food scarcity, media/cultural messaging, and the distribution of fat on the women in question. It will never be the norm for men to prefer severely obese women, but it’s not uncommon for men in so…
/r/RedPillWomen06/02/22 11:22 PM
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This makes sense, but the other side of the coin is that men are capable of being attracted to heavier women, and the extent to which they like/are not bothered by women being bigger is very culturally mediated. Culture also affects how much men value certain attributes (bigger breasts/bottom) that are going to be more common in larger women. In other words, fat acceptance leads to less competition if you are competing for men who really don’t like fat women … but it also means that more guys fi…
/r/RedPillWomen05/02/22 09:56 PM
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Could you link it?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 11:15 PM
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Can you link it?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 11:15 PM
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Smurf had a similar theory- masculine, hard-ish guys like women who more male brained.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 01:26 AM
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I guess the major limitation is what they are looking for in a woman in exchange for their efforts to looksmax. He might still not like the level of women he could get to date him, or he might be satisfied enough with the level of women in a vacuum, but dissatisfied with the level of lust she has for him (ex: enough to sincerely want vanilla sex one or twice a week, not enough to want frequent, adventurous sex), in which case he wouldn’t find investing in his looks and the relationship to be wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 06:08 PM
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-involve media/fashion industry to reduce sexually titillating content/ promotion of very sexualized style and attire /glamorization of a sexually hedonistic lifestyle and polygamy. Provide positive depictions of characters who happen to be sexless and monogamous relationships that would have a decent chance of success in real life (I.e. no female or male nerds getting the prom king/queen, relationships where people acts in good faith that satisfy basic hypergamy without pairing a 4 woman with a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 05:44 PM
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40 year old men have baggage too and 20 year old women aren’t equipped to deal with it. I agree with avoiding people with incompatible temperaments but the chance of finding someone with whom you are compatible is going to be much higher if you are dating roughly within you age range than if you are dating people half your age.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 08:36 PM
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If they could make her physically 20 again- sure. But the experience of being 40+ and being married to a 20 year old would be awful for most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 08:01 PM
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I actually don’t hear much slut shaming from woman at all these days. It’s nice, and I’m prude as hell lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 06:02 PM
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I don’t like her, but she’s attractive and represents a point of view that’s appealing to a lot of young men. She also comes off as more high-brow than most trad women on social media, which has its pull
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 03:24 AM
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Your response cracked me up, but same. I don’t like doing other peoples laundry and I don’t really like them doing mine. And I have a gratuitous amount of cheap clothes, so some weeks, fuck laundry lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 03:15 AM
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Yeah, I just mean notably tall/short/skinny/heavy/muscular, none of which I picked up with him
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 02:50 AM
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This isn’t super uncommon. Any sense of the reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 10:51 PM
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That extreme would be super unusual but there are definitely bisexual women who are more likely to have their unattached sex with other women than with men. It’s “safer” in a certain respect and anecdotally, many bisexual women find a greater proportion of woman attractive than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 10:49 PM
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Lol, TIL I’m dating a gay pedophile Edit: He likes both, Ive reach the conclusion that be must be a bisexual pedophile.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 10:12 PM
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He almost got to do it in space!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 12:55 AM
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I dont know about his build, but I was really surprised that he had a nice looking face.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 12:52 AM
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She’s on the bigger size of average- probably a little more plump but than the “ideal,” but not what comes to mind when a girl is described as chubby
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 12:09 AM
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Haha There are strong universal principles but the extent of variance in some mens’ preferences really throws me. My dad truly think large asses are unattractive regardless of shape and was grossed out when he found out that it was a common preference
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 08:56 PM
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totally fair, they’re basically ornamental to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 07:09 PM
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I’m actually straight so maybe take my preference with a grain of salt, but I do think that big boobs have a sort of magnetism lol. I totally agree that small boobs age better, but their shape is different at baseline, and I guess I just don’t really like the shape of them that much at any point. To me, big boobs look excellent when people are young-ish, but past that point, still usually look good in a bra, which is how they are the vast majority of the time, whereas small boobs are always okay…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 06:40 PM
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Re: your comment on the overweight women thread (I can’t reply there for some reason) I agree with your take, save for having different preferences in the bosom department. Also, you would kick my ass at scrabble.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 06:01 PM
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There’s different news sources. It’s not feasible for everyone but consuming a neutral-ish paper/media or those with different perspectives is really better than being totally uninformed-especially if you are a parent. I’ll concede I don’t keep up with the news as much as I should, but its definitely a flaw.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 05:45 PM
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Totally with you on the reality tv, but as long as she’s not getting her news from tabloid magazines, following the news is usually a good trait in a spouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 06:46 AM
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Huh. I always assumed tall girls would be more enthusiastic since it’s much harder for them to find noticeably taller men. I personally don’t care, and actually dislike being much shorter than a guy. It’s an ergonomic nightmare and a weird form of vulnerability than I don’t normally experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 01:55 AM
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This makes complete sense, I just don’t hear it often . My s.o. is around 6’1, I’m a little under 5’8, and it’s perfect. A huge height gap seems like a pain in the ass and looks far more awkward than cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 01:24 AM
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What’s wrong with reading the news?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 12:21 AM
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Why 5’8? Are you super tall?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 12:18 AM
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What do you think about non-western cultures where the ideal for women is to be plump- ex: certain African or Arab countries? I get the impression that men’s weight preferences can genuinely be culturally mediated (even if the default in a society without much food insecurity is generally a preference for thin women). I also question if the way in which different ethnicities carry weight is a factor. Latina and black women often carry extra weight in a more feminine/favorable way than do white o…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 05:59 AM
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The value of just being in shape is now exceedingly high compared to what it used to be This really depends on environment. Being thin is more novel than in the past, but a lot of guys care less way about women being thin (and way more about them having certain types of curves) than in the past, so being thin is kind of neutral rather than positive, and sometimes slightly negative if you have no ass (like a lot of skinny girls) and the guys around you like booty lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 05:39 AM
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You would probably be in hell dating the RP idealized 18 year old skinny virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 08:58 PM
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The competition is soft
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 01:04 AM
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I know this doesn’t address the issue, but it’s of interest that men with platonic female friends are possibly most vulnerable with them. Even with other men, there’s still strong expectations regarding shows of vulnerability.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 01:46 AM
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Yeah, 15 year old me was not attractive unless you basically put her in drag lol. I looked like I was smuggling muffins in my cheeks without cheek contour— which is how I walked around the world 99% of the time. I’m glad I got to be a kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 02:25 AM
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I hear you, it’s just that average 15 year olds look too border-line pubescent and awkward to me, and I think this perception is very common. Facially they don’t really look that different from a 13 year old. I know it’s anecdotal, but even when I was 15, male peers found the 17/18+ year olds far hotter than the girls their own age and they preferred the celebrities who were at least that age too. If you define peak so strictly that 23 isn’t even included, then 15 year olds, who, on average, loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 10:33 PM
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It’s really hard to see 15/16 as part of peak. Average 15/16 year olds, especially the former are still pretty chubby in the face and often have a sort of gangly (can’t think of a better word atm) physique. There are attractive 15 year olds— but they usually don’t actually look 15. While I find it socially gross, I understand why michael bay put 15 year old Megan fox in bad boys; she looked like an attractive 18 year old. Even if I remove morality as much as possible, 17/18 seems like the beginn…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 08:03 PM
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About the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 11:37 PM
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I don’t want either, so I guess B and then just avoid any unnecessary interactions, since he’s probably too busy banking and hooking up with models to care?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 10:27 PM
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Aw :/
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 08:29 PM
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Dennis!?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 07:40 AM
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Eh, it can happen later. It’s just usually still by/before the mid to late 20s. Some people still have a stupid amount of baby fat in their face at 20.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 03:04 AM
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I’d probably be flattered given the source, but that’s sounds like a lot and can see why someone would be uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 12:50 AM
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No problem with it, but it’s still important not to be duplicitous with intentions and to be mindful to avoid leading a guy on if he obviously wants more, and she just wants to hook up. It’s less common that the reverse, but still happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 11:09 PM
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Bump. Old money usually marries old money too. He’ll chose a similarly educated, intelligent woman from a high brow family to marry and raise his kids even if she doesn’t actively bring in that much of an income.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 04:38 PM
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Lol! Break out the beads next time
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 04:19 AM
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I could probably cornrow my boyfriends back
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 12:27 AM
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A+
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 11:09 PM
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I’d be more interested
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 11:05 PM
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Really? Why
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 11:05 PM
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Based on rigorous scientific polling of the people I know, trimmed is good, but trimmed + shaved in certain areas is the most favorable. Completely shaved is unpopular.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 10:58 PM
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Totally fair to have a preference, but also good to be conscious that most women who shave will prefer to date someone whose junk they can locate without the use of a weed whacker.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 10:53 PM
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This seems like a desire of very young women. I get it sticking around as a fleeting fantasy later on- ex; in books or role play, but in practice it’s totally unappealing. Most women don’t actually want the hedonistic anti-hero, they want Captain America. Over time, men who engage in excessive hedonism, unhealthy escapism, or who cannot manage their anger begin to look childish. I think part of it also is that attractive/powerful men can more easily get away with showing unfavorable behavior, wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 05:31 PM
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Some find unwanted sex more tolerable than others and I’d imagine women who find it most tolerable are probably overrepresented in some demographics- ex: women who chose prostitution or sugaring despite being in a stable enough financial position. The biggest problem with duty sex isn’t the lack of arousal. It’s when women experience the opposite or arousal - repugnance. There’s someone inside them, and their body wants them out. Older women have talked to me about this, “zoning out,” and dreadi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 03:42 AM
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OLD makes things harder because it’s excessively visual, men don’t have the best sense of what photos to use, and men can lose a lot of attractiveness when portrayed in a static image v. in motion. In real life though, a woman who is a 5 usually won’t have trouble finding a guy who is a 6.5 and seems interested, to be attractive. So, if she’ll willing to go on a date, she may actually be a lot more attracted in person. The flip side of this is that if the 6.5 seems disingenuous she’d rather just…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 02:18 AM
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I get the 80/20 thing, but functionally, women are usually very happy to date someone a point or two above them in desirability, so you don’t necessarily have to be top 20% unless you need to date your looks match.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 01:55 AM
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lil’ panthers Edit: Reddit keep changes “lil” to lol. Damnit Reddit, I’m trying to cat!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 01:09 AM
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Sorry about your girlfriend’s boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 01:05 AM
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Its widely unpleasant and women have a strong enough aversion that societies had to construct elaborate systems to basically force women to pair and reproduce with men that they didn’t want to be intimate with. Many women will forgo something as significant as motherhood if it avoids a near lifetime expectation of unwanted sex with a man she does not want to be with. Like you, I do want people to be happy and for as many people as possible to have healthy pairings, but I don’t think we can ever …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 01:00 AM
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That’s where things kind of break down. A lot of women would probably be okay to forgo appealing (to them) sex if they had an otherwise sufficiently fulfilling romantic relationship. But when you add the element of expecting them to have sex that they actively don’t want, they tend to vote with their feet.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 12:11 AM
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That parts makes sense. What about the physical element? If she loved you but didn’t have lust for you , would you want the romance and partnership sans sex or still expect her to sleep with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 11:51 PM
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What if you didn’t have the options?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 11:44 PM
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Being crazy cat/dog people together is the best :) my man loves the cat sooooo much.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 11:38 PM
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Is your husband a cat/pup man? Btw, ancient sea hag is great!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 11:34 PM
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Would you be with a woman (including having an ongoing physical relationship) who didn’t have desire for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 11:33 PM
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Weirdly wholesome lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 10:52 PM
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Go for it haha. I hear you. I sleep with one purring next to my noggin most nights.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 10:12 PM
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I love cat lady spinsters!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 09:58 PM
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This is sucky, but not surprising. I mostly prefer my close friendships to be with other women because of this stuff. It’s easier to have friendships built on a more stable foundation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 09:33 PM
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Keep in mind that motherhood affects one’s career and earnings, especially if you choose to take any time out to stay home with the kids. Just something to be mindful of when you are looking at the earnings/ professional trajectory of a prospective partner.
/r/RedPillWomen27/12/21 12:51 AM
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Around 12
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 04:21 PM
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It’s really hard to tell from this picture. Facially, maybe a 4/5? In terms of physique, he has a good taper to his waist but he also seems to either have too much fat or a lot of skin laxity, which throws things off. I can’t tell how much of his arms are muscle v.fat. Might look better in a different position/angle. Overall, in this picture, maybe a 4 based on my preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 12:39 AM
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I think how favorably people perceive agreeableness depends a lot on the source of the trait -some people are agreeable because of positive attributes- ex: adaptiveness- they can afford to be agreeable because they are very capable/competent, and tend to remain pretty emotionally stable and easygoing when they need to adapt to imperfect circumstances. They are basically agreeable because they are conscientious and can handle it. These people are usually pretty confident and well-liked -Conversel…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 02:16 AM
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No. It’s not beneficial generally. Also, be very careful with non-commital men. Even if you win him over during the infatuation stage, he may revert back to being non-commital when the new relationship energy wears off. That’s not to say a happy relationship is impossible— just be smart and cautious.
/r/RedPillWomen22/12/21 10:54 PM
2

100% This is totally under-acknowledged on here. I had a friend when we were around 18, who was average- maybe even a little below, but she carried herself with a lot of confidence and charisma, always seemed to be having a good time, and she got far more attention than a lot of girls who were better looking and/or or nicer. (Obviously, game should supplement not substitute other qualities)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 04:42 AM
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Lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 11:57 PM
1

That’s amazing. Keeping weight off is freakin hard. Have a Merry Christmas!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 10:53 PM
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Incel. I’d try to help him change things if he wanted and otherwise try to help him have a fulfilling life. Porn is a minefield, Id prefer no family members did that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 10:10 PM
1

Oh my god.😂
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 10:05 PM
1

Did your first ex-wife stay slim? She had surgery, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 09:48 PM
0

Yeah, I get that lack of sexual access is significant, but sex is so different than external goods or currency that support basic survival.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 07:39 PM
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Bump. Compromise is key, you just have to make sure your needs are met and understand the difference between preference v. need.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 06:29 PM
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Historically, I'd say women desired men less but needed them more as compared to how men feel about women. This makes a lot of sense. Women were more reliant on the opposite sex for basic survival needs, men were more more reliant for psychosocial needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 05:30 PM
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This. It’s not about you as a person— it’s about you being the screen onto which someone can project their ideals- for now. It’s usually not a sustainable thing unless the worshiper has low self-esteem, they believe (whether or not its actually true) the other party to be way out of their league, or sometimes, if there are ongoing drama catalysts . It’s limerence, not mature love. People who are prone to putting others on a pedestal can also become angry, or rapidly lose interest when reality se…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 10:34 PM
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Playfulness and a sense of curiosity are awesome, underrated attributes in a partner. The manifestation is different, but it’s attractive in men too. I love being silly with my partner, and getting into little adventures/ explorations together.
/r/RedPillWomen20/12/21 09:26 PM
2

6<sup>3</sup> is excessive mate
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 09:30 PM
4

It was the perfect typo haha
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 05:09 AM
9

“of course feelings genitally develop.” I would certainly hope so! Otherwise, why even bother?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 04:28 AM
2

I’ve heard this, but haven’t knowingly seen it. I’ve mostly seen that there’s a lot of attention on them, even if they don’t want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 06:49 AM
2

“Wanting to be with a woman? How gay is that? You win sex against a man. That’s as straight as it gets.”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 02:27 AM
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I think being hot has a lot of drawbacks people here rarely talk about. Growing up really good looking seems so strange to me. The reception that a really attractive person gets from members of the opposite, and sometimes status-conscious (or gay lol) members of the same sex, is just completely different than what a normal looking person gets. It seems exhausting and maybe even a little dehumanizing in its own way though. Im kind of happy to be in the ballpark of average looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 02:10 AM
1

Does that 90 lbs include the milk?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 01:15 AM
2

Its basically a captive audience
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 11:41 PM
1

To be fair, my only alt boyfriend was pretty gay…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 11:07 PM
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Pssh, I don’t have the confidence for that! In all seriousness, Im not competitive and I think its way too easy to slip into the territory of seeming desperate if you do this, which tends to destroy respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 09:40 PM
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Partner is my same age (31), which I prefer. I think it’s generally easier to develop/ maintain a close connection when you grew up in the same cohort/sub-cohort and are in a similar stage of life - of course this can matter more or less depending on how old you are, where you are in life, etc. I also find people about my age a lot more visually appealing than older men. If I had to date again, I’d try to keep it to maybe 28- 35.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 07:17 AM
3

Attn healthcare professional, a kind stranger thinks you should talk to a healthcare professional
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 04:03 AM
1

In shape as in muscular, or as in thin? Muscular guys with fat women are usually following their preference. Demographic plays a role too.I’m fairly thin with no ass, and a lot of the men in my environment would probably prefer a woman bigger than me, as long as she had the curves to back it up. Thin, average-ish guys are more likely to be with a heavy women due to lack of alternative options, compared to the fit guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 03:59 AM
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You have to go on a date with the waiter.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 01:04 AM
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I don’t regard sex as love. I do regard it as a time of very high vulnerability, and if you see it that way, then it’s preferable to have with someone who loves you and vice versa since you want to avoid experiencing or inflicting unnecessary harm. There’s so much variance though. Many people feel still adequately emotionally/ physically secure being with someone that doesn’t love them, and love is much harder to find that sex, so waiting for love might be unnessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 12:08 AM
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Oof. Her face doesn’t actually look that young—would still be hinderance because it looks under 18, but the voice and size are what really make her seem like a kid. Even with leg lengthening surgery, she would still be tiny. I could maybe see a normal dude being into her if they were genuinely friends first, and things developed organically in spite of the issue, but anyone who tries to pick her up is probably just really fucked up. Her best bet is probably another little person. It’s pretty com…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 10:13 PM
2

I’m cracking up at how specific this is lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 05:22 PM
1

Ow ow ow ow ow
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 01:44 AM
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I’m more concerned about whether you wave around 500 dollar bills in every ghetto, or if you just did it in Chad’s neighborhood, and then stopped because you got “robbed by bad men.”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 01:43 AM
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Yea, I know we have a lot of problems, but I remember seeing a lot of couples when I was growing up that made me think “why on earth did those two get ever married!?” and I encounter much less of that today.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 01:26 AM
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The friendship compatibility aspect of relationships is so important. I actually think this is an area in which dating has gotten much better in the last 50 years. There is more of an emphasis on finding someone you like as a person— not just romantically and sexually. Plus, “mens’” and “women’s” hobbies and interests are more accessible to the opposite sex that ever, which means more people end up being compatible in this department.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 01:14 AM
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Private couples videos are probably on the more benign end, but a lot of stuff that is marketed as amateur is still pretty dark. The market is oversaturated and consumers are getting more and more desensitized, so content and demands get more extreme. A lot of stuff that looks rough really is rough, and there’s no guarantee that it’s what a couple or individual actually likes, but it’s hard to compete in porn by having vanilla missionary sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 11:47 PM
1

Agreed. Gotta protect the virtue of your feet.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 02:31 AM
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In order to avoid confusion, I advocate that all future grinding take place only in the missionary position, and only with proper alignment. Please remember to bring your aerobed to the club, if you feel like getting low.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 04:26 AM
2

Thanks for linking the other sub! I really liked the idea of r/childfree, but can’t stand the actual execution
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:08 AM
2

The logical solution
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 01:55 AM
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This is hilarious 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 11:27 PM
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Damn, this is depressing
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 11:15 PM
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Context is key. With the flowers, I’d regard it differently, unless it’s a financial issue, since it’s a simple thing to do (no pain, mess, or “prep”) that tends to make people happy, unless he knows new gf just doesnt care about that stuff. I’d rather just have the chocolate though hah 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 02:17 AM
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I guess it would come down to if I thought they had enough desire for me and also their relationship to the former partner. If he did that as a horned up 20 year old and didn’t appear to have any contact with the ex, I don’t think I’d really care. I’d probably be glad he’s never approached it with me haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 02:03 AM
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I agree with a lot of this. The part I find tough is that some guys kind of try to use friendship to increase attraction with women they don’t necessarily like that much as people, to fill sort of a girlfriend shaped hole in their life. I get loneliness and wanting intimacy or affection, but think it’s kind of lousy to act socially interested if that interest really isn’t there. I don’t believe there’s anything wrong with someone becoming more invested in an actual friendship due to the presence…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 04:38 AM
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🤷‍♀️ Clearly a pleb mistake
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 09:00 PM
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It gets a little blurry imo -My consistent observation and experience is that there are a disheartening number men who will befriend women they likely wouldn’t want to be friends if they didn’t hold the hope for romance or sex with them -There’s also guys who like the women platonically but would also like more. Occasionally, they become so infatuated that continuing just a friendship would be too painful; I’ve seen the pain, and cannot hold this against anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 06:31 PM
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Love them If you get an older one you also have a good idea of their personality up front, and can get a more outgoing cat if that’s your thing Mine is incredibly sweet, but is still low maintenance
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 10:03 PM
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How old was the cat when you got them?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 09:37 PM
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This is bleak dude. It basically sounds like you think men and women only commit due to lack of alternative options, except for women wanting to commit to widely desirable men I’d be alone if I felt that way
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 07:36 PM
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If those are the only two options, which route would you take if you were a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 05:50 PM
2

Snacks might be my love language
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 01:31 AM
1

Oh man, I miss having a spacious shower that I could comfortably sit/lay down in! I wasted a stupid amount of time in there though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 11:29 PM
1

Sad, but also a little impressive
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 10:45 PM
2

They’re only hot as a werewolf. Wait… what!? /s
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 07:22 AM
2

This is solid
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 07:18 AM
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This is fun! Number 5 is hilarious btw 8: Other- based on a combo of your ideas. I tell them (1) but come prepared with other ideas and restraints (2) to offer. We try steak (7) then a live animal (6) if needed. If that doesn’t work, we up the restraints by changing his living environment- I’m talking cozy, but locked padded room with whatever means will keep him most comfortable until morning comes. We can supplement with anxiety meds or sedatives if needed. If he will die without eating people…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 07:16 AM
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Ah shit. 3 = 3?! *sweats in stalemate *
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 06:50 AM
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3>1?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 06:47 AM
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I don’t think there’s a discrepancy in intrinsic value, but men tend to go off the rails more quickly and have more difficulty adapting. Enforced monogamy helped placate the masses— but it also gave power where it didn’t belong, without appropriate accountability. Men almost automatically got access to woman they found adequately desirable, and basically got to keep it as long as they didn’t engage in behavior that was disruptive to the parties that had power, which, by design, usually did not i…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 02:56 AM
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I definitely agree with the principle. One question- do today’s men actually bring that much less to the table than the men of the past (in modern history), outside of resource provision? Are we over idealizing past men in certain respects? I don’t know how generalizable my observations are, but I know a ton of later middle aged and elderly couples, widows, and widowers, and Jesus Christ, was there a lot of not very nice or really disingenuous male behavior, among mid and lower tier men, that wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 10:52 PM
2

Is the ghost agreeable to a pre-nup?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 04:57 PM
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Not at all! Appreciate your input as well!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 04:00 PM
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My conclusion is that men, do indeed, think with their dicks 😂 Have a good night haha!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 03:27 AM
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My understanding was that when men dated down in class, status, etc. they were choosing to compromise in areas that they didn’t think mattered that much in a woman (although they may have ended up mattering in the long run) in order to optimize the visual desirability of a partner— and the consequences of doing so we’re largely hidden from them all together due to enforced monogamy, or didn’t become apparent until the union was already in place. In other words, in terms of male choice, “marrying…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 02:41 AM
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We don’t get off that easily. We have to shave our heads now. Can’t use the shadow of our hair to soften the appearance of our ugly make-up free faces.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 01:07 AM
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Interesting. Considering the multitude of factors that affect women’s mate standards, it actually make even more sense to me now for men to date down in desirability. Then you get into the fact that men have more paths to being physically hot than women. A man can be 'ugly' hot with the right kind of physique and dominant look. Not only do men wrinkle less than women naturally, but wrinkling can have a far less negative impact on male appearance depending on the overall look he has going for him…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 12:41 AM
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It may be that like a gap of ~2-3 years in favor of the man combined with him dating DOWN in appearance is a very good combination. This makes sense to me. In terms of men putting more effort into appearance, If things go this route, I anticipate that a lot of what we see will be the things that give quicker returns- fitness, hair, clothes, with less attention paid to things like avoiding excessive direct sun exposure and having a good skin care routine, which tend to play a big role in how peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 10:48 PM
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Deep
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 07:34 AM
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Haha
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 07:34 AM
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Lol 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 07:28 AM
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Wait, this sounds awesome!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 07:24 AM
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An age gap up to 8 years as a guideline seems at though it would have more cons that pros —would exacerbate the issue of many women not finding the men seeking relationships with them to be that visually attractive, especially over time. A 20 year old women may find a 28 year old man attractive (though on average, less so than someone closer to her age) , but when she’s 30, he’s going to look aged in an unfavorable manner, compared to her peers. —good chance of it interfering with social compati…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 07:02 AM
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This is really sad😞
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 12:28 PM
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Well put. I’d actually say that the trait of being inclined toward devotion in an appropriate relationship, is often a component of compatibility, in people seeking serious long term relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 02:16 AM
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Hey, walugi can get it… 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 08:05 AM
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Arwen was lovely. In the opposite direction of the “woke” agenda, there is this gem: https://www.reddit.com/r/menwritingwomen/ https://www.reddit.com/r/WomenWritingMen/ is good also, although there is less content
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 01:17 AM
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Love her :) I’ll admit I was disappointed when she told Wesley to shut up, but I was pissed with Picard too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 12:42 AM
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She’s kind of an asshole haha, but I like her
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 12:38 AM
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I believe she got a knock off super soldier serum in the comics, did she have it in the MCU?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 12:37 AM
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I don’t disagree with there being somewhat of an agenda, but I didn’t mind since it was still plausible within their respective universes and I think they are good characters. I like that Scarlet Witch is less strength based than Captain Marvel. Shuri had different resources at her disposal than did Tony Stark, which helped make things more believable to me. Commercials that try too hard to seem woke bother me a lot more than films.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 12:35 AM
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-Harry Potter -Battle Star Gallactica reboot- president -Lotr films-Arwen -Marvel- scarlet witch- overpowered but metaphysical, rather than just excessively strong for a women, so I’m fine with it.Not a fan of black widow. -Startrek: dr. Beverly Crusher -parks and rec: Leslie knope -black panther- shuri -silence of the lambs-clarice -Erin Brockovich -the help- the non awful female characters lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 09:20 PM
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That’s awesome. I don’t have that attribute hahaha, but I certainly admire it in other people !
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 04:17 PM
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That’s really sweet :)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 04:15 PM
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Ow ow ow ow ow
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 07:38 AM
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There are more men than I expected who really want kids
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 04:12 AM
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It’s hard to say whose life was better. I do think a lot of the protection women had from things like hard labor and warfare were related to societies wanting to keep enough women alive and in commission for the sake of utility, rather than a concern for their welfare or perception of intrinsic value. I concede that I am viewing this through a contemporary lens, and also that the matter is complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 02:28 AM
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I cannot unsee this
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 01:37 AM
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It’s more that girls who are cute and the right brand of crazy or mean often draw more attention than girls who are cute but more “normal” in behavior. It’s not healthy attention though- it’s largely people projecting fantasies on the girl , wanting to “save” her, and getting hooked on push-pull dynamics and adrenaline rushes from the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 01:34 AM
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I underestimated how many men really want babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 11:23 PM
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Oppression (whether class based, racial, etc.) has been rampant throughout history, so viewing things solely through a male-female dichotomy is reductive. Still, women have been oppressed a lot and sometimes even oppressed as a strategy to pacify other oppressed parties (ex: Enforced monogamy- supplemented by measures to reduce female autonomy-like coverture, would have helped placate mid/working class men and given them a sense of power to distract from how little power they had in greater soci…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 10:49 PM
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Yes. -people I found very good looking, but who were recieved as more average by other people and vice versa. -people who I did not find particularly funny or nice , but who were recieved as funny and charming by a lot of people and got a lot of attention. -I’ve found that women who are cute, but not beautiful, and a certain type of crazy or mean, tend to draw a lot more attention than one would expect at first glance— but this one no longer surprises me
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 06:28 PM
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He’s look like if a muppet and a sexy drug dealer (?) had a baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 07:27 AM
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Look into the demographic before you consider this. It’s not uncommon for poor or working class women to have different expectations for masculinity, as compared to upper-ish middle class women- ex: may care more about men seeming rugged, handy, and strong, even if they don’t care as much about overall looks or have lower expectations for finances.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 07:32 AM
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It certainly matters, but context plays a big role. Living together/married: matters more than when dating Planning kids/raising children:matters the most and creates the most stress if she’s earning more and doing a greater volume of child care/house work I live with my partner and I work more/have the higher income, but we keep lot of our finances separate, he does a lot with maintaining the apartment on his own initiative, and there’s no intention for kids, and there’s never been an issue
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 12:52 AM
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Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 10:55 AM
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Fine to have a preference; not a charming way to express it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 03:56 AM
2

Slavery apologists are absolutely crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 03:43 AM
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That’s really sweet. A friend of mine (nurse) once brought a patient who didn’t have family to her home for thanksgiving; not necessarily recommended, but lovely lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 03:39 AM
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I don’t have a problem with it at face value. It is sad though to see how far some men will go to get sex (or to get more sex.)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 04:33 AM
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I don’t see a future- well, at least not a functional one. He’s 28 so I don’t find the age gap predatory, but it’s still kind of weird and excessive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 04:29 AM
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In general-yes, as long as it wasn’t to the extent that merging our lives would significantly drop my comfort level.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 04:20 AM
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I mean… it makes perfect sense lol. You may feel differently about an individual woman though if you fall hard for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 10:58 PM
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I think she was actually post wall by TRP standards when she married Brad Pitt
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 10:44 PM
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Yellow flag- might be dealing with shit I’m not in a place to deal with, but it’s good that he’s seeking help from a professional rather then burying the issue or over relying on friends/love interests
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 10:39 PM
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Even if men do potentially have a minor innate advantage in the ability to lead, it may not hold up in the modern world. Physical strength is much less important for survival and securing resource than in the past (which has benefitted not only woman, but also many men). Additionally, as we have shifted to a more humanistic society (Which also has benefitted not only women, but also non-top men), certain female strengths may play a bigger role in the capacity to lead than they did in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 06:00 PM
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Right- it’s basically the story of an uninteresting asshole having a mid life crisis lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 05:16 PM
2

A wild chonk appears!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 11:05 AM
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I definitely do not like the word 'submit' in modern times. It is too loaded and strong a term Agreed. I was not clear, the women I mentioned are very old lol, and mostly got married at a time when true submission, rather than just healthy deference, was expected of them. I agree with the strategy you mentioned in the event that the man is not actually a more competent leader overall— I think most women would agree with this strategy too. Where things run into trouble though is that when women d…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 10:39 AM
1

Just listened- love it!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 07:02 AM
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I enjoyed it too! Casting Jeromy Irons as old Ozymandias was brilliant. Only thing I didn’t like was the direction they took with Dr.Manhattan. Im quite bummed they never made a second season. The ozymandias prequel graphic novel was good too. I’d like to read some of the other Before Watchmen novels. Im most curious about the Rorschach one; it’s unfortunately paired with the comedian one though and I fucking hate the comedian lol What is House of Leaves about?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 06:28 AM
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With you on great gatsby + catcher in the rye (I didn’t finish it so my opinion probably doesn’t count here lol) Love watchmen, don’t care if it’s cliche at this point
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 04:23 AM
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I love Rebecca and Frankenstein Death of a salesman is technically a play, but I think it’s overrated
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 04:22 AM
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I feel bad for the kids haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 04:13 AM
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This is the only reason my post-wall ass follows tik tok.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 04:11 AM
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Dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 04:09 AM
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I know a lot of older women. They did not like submitting to men who were not more capable.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 03:43 AM
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For relationships, yes. Very capable/intelligent men tend to get annoyed when women cannot reasonably keep up in this domain (especially if that woman is raising their children- intelligent men want their children raised by smart women who are organized, resourceful, and able to problem solve at a level that the men find acceptable) + they also prefer partners they find reasonably interesting, which is going to be more common with similarly intelligent women. For sex appeal, no
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 01:00 AM
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I enjoyed this comment lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 07:39 AM
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I’m basically breaking things down into SMV (looks + certain traits like charisma or confidence, which would most closely match women’s “good genes” criteria and correspond with sexual selectivity) and RMV (basically the 3ps plus being interesting/ pleasant to spend time with in ways that don’t necessarily augment desire). In modern-ish history, men have often leveraged aspects of their RMV- mainly resource provisioning enhanced by enforced monogamy measures, to do a lot better than they otherwi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 02:32 AM
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Ouch!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 12:03 AM
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What’s the protocol here? I don’t even know. The rules for women (where you can and cannot apply soap) are different. Is shampoo in the picture?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 11:41 PM
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Regarding resource based hypergamy, I think women will be more flexible if it affords them a partner who is sexually compatible and who acts in good faith to pull their weight in the relationship even if they have to defer to the wife for guidance on certain matters— but women seldom have the opportunity to actually participate in this kind of relationship. I do expect that the resource requirement will remain more tenacious for women who want more kids. Men working on appearance & minimizing pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 11:17 PM
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Agreed that there can be issues in any relationship; the difficulty is that these issues are pretty serious and are common with age gaps. Sometimes 2 people meet organically, and get together in spite of the age gap because they are otherwise so compatible that they can make it work, but it’s not the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 05:27 PM
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Jeez. Glad you are feeling better. People really underestimate how much Covid can impact otherwise healthy individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 12:33 PM
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I think it’s pretty fair (for lack of a better term) for the average-ish man to date down a bit in terms of smv as long as they still find their partner adequately desirable. Men’s current strategy of mostly mating up or laterally (in the linear sense) in terms of SMV for long term relationships, may optimize mens’ erotic fulfillment and sexual validation (potentially with some element of denial) at the very beginning of the relationship , but doesn’t really benefit anyone in the longer run. On …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 12:05 PM
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+greater lust/enthusiasm at baseline, somewhat less concerned about shortcomings in other areas, more likely to be deferential. You can’t bank on all of this, but sexually, it’s pretty predictable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 06:24 AM
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Agreed. There’s also the piece that heavily pushing back against the leverage/immutable factors isn’t great for men either. Men really, really (understandably) dislike it when they don’t feel desired by their spouse and when their spouse avoid having frequent sex with them….but It’s really hard to get around that when men mainly seek their smv match or higher, especially for long term pairings, or if they date down in this regard, often hold it over women’s heads or expect some kind of major com…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 05:47 AM
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Some of the bigger issues with age gaps tend to be: —younger people are more impressionable and malleable —young people are impulsive and more susceptible to making ill advised, high risk choices —older people may find young people physically appealing, but they tend to have little social interest in them— 30 year olds don’t usually want to be close friends with 20 year olds, and liking your partner as a person- not just as a man or as a woman, is really important. generation/life stage gaps exa…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 02:48 AM
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whether men would need to actually put in more effort than women simply because of the female advantage in sexual leverage. I know exactly what you are referring to and that you mean leverage + other factors, but I think part of the problem is that a lot of people actually are conceptualizing the issue as being mostly rooted in leverage, without acknowledgement or recognition of the other issues at play- higher sexual selectivity, lower libido- things that largely suck for women given the constr…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 10:55 PM
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“Before I discovered Fruititude I was stuck in a dead end job, working tirelessly for Big Produce.” I would have been dangerously curious, but you made the right call.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 07:43 AM
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Was it like a fruit MLM or something? Haha
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 07:26 AM
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They tried to sell you fruit?!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 07:19 AM
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I’m not personally bothered by it if the men are transparent with the women and aren’t disrespectful. I’m sure this is often not the case though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 06:19 AM
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Sounds like steroids, but roids are more likely to decrease testicle rather than penis size
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 02:51 AM
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Go to a county fair! You will feel skinny Minnie!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 02:46 AM
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Good tip
/r/RedPillWomen15/11/21 01:40 AM
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Wouldn’t be my cup of tea, but as a strategy it sounds okay if everyone is in the loop.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 12:26 AM
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Hmm. That’s hard. If he does recommend surgery and you don’t think it’s necessary, try get a copy of your written and visual records and get a couple of additional opinions. In terms of a colostomy, you would also want to find out your odds for reversal.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 11:12 PM
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I still like it too
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 08:25 PM
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I thought it was mean. (Not an inkwell though).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 08:24 PM
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I’m sorry you are dealing with this. I know it sounds trite, but as much as possible, try to take things one day at a time. As far as the procedure, make sure to take time out for the prep. The procedure itself should not be difficult and they will likely thoroughly sedate you. Check with your doctors office if you have any questions about the prep/procedure.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 08:14 PM
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Thank you, she is still at the strip club and she wants to continue the grift but I really really find her extremely disgusting. Me rejecting her over, and over, and over, and over again is my therapy. It is not sustainable in the long run. You are in a bind of relying on the actions/response of an unreliable, selfish person to address a wound. Regarding the friendship advice, It’s a cost-benefit thing in my opinion If the cost is time, and you can manage it, and the benefit is a friendship you …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 07:12 AM
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I meant it in reference to the women :)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 04:23 AM
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Some people are really into the pursuit stage and push-pull dynamics, and will sooner find B.S. reasons to prolong that or to next, rather than progressing towards a relationship. Maybe they fell into that camp 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 03:33 AM
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That’s awful. I’m so sorry. Which would disappear if people stopped promoting the "be a friend" advice. The trouble is that it’s actually decent advice, as long as you would still want the friendship even if it doesn’t go further. At 18, a guy at my college who thought I was pretty and funny befriended me. He became my favorite person, and 13 years later we are still totally in love.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 03:11 AM
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This Plus if you accidentally do something unsexy in front of a woman who thought you were hot but kind of a POS (which is sort of their m.o.) then its expected for her to be really put off and possibly leave —If you accidentally do something unsexy in front of a woman who thought you were hot and a decent human being, she’d rather keep finding you hot, so you have a little more room for “mistakes” and definitely more of a chance to salvage things They pick fickle women and also treat them in a …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 12:45 AM
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Be careful please! I don't drop a friendship because it is a revenge thing, I do it because it could be painful, I have legitimately only been broken hearted by unrequited love once in HS, the idea that we still HAD to be friends after the fact is outrageous. Men are not owed sex, women are not owed friendship, regardless of how many friendship tokens they deposit. Totally fair. My perspective is that it’s ok to befriend a crush, still intending to be friends even if nothing romantic comes of it…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 12:23 AM
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Gotcha. That is something to be mindful of for the affluent. The difference though is that you can exercise discretion with showing affluence, which will make it much less likely that gold diggers will target you. Dating within your economic class also simplifies things. Conversely, women cannot just turn off being female, so there will always be the risk of someone befriending you with the sole intention of sex/dating. I totally agree that finding money— or woman desirable, does not make one a …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 11:51 PM
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Would you honestly prefer there not being attraction if you develop feelings? That wouldn’t be a problem. My issue would really be if someone entered a friendship because they were attracted, and didn’t plan to stay in the friendship if the attraction was not reciprocated. Men have the same dilema but only it is with money and not sex. I don't want somebody using me, but at the same time it is who I am, and I don't want to fall in love with somebody that is a great friend but is legitimately onl…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 10:18 PM
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Thanks. I feel better now.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 06:12 PM
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Right. I have experienced a couple of guys who actually fell hard and couldn’t continue the friendship, and I understood— but that’s different than regularly entering friendships with the plan to discontinue them if feelings aren’t reciprocated
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 06:04 PM
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Right. As a young-ish woman, it’s actually way easier to find men that wants to sleep with/date you , than it is to find someone who wants to be a close friend in the absence of sex or romance. When you think someone wants the latter, but would only wants the former, you do feel kind of used and worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 05:57 PM
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Depends on the intention and your attachment pattern If you fall really hard for every crush and you know you cannot continue a friendship if your feelings aren’t reciprocated, then you maybe shouldn’t be initiating those friendships If you genuinely want to be friends with women even if the person doesn’t end up reciprocating your feelings, then go ahead. — The chance that most people will actually fall in love with a given crush who doesn’t reciprocate is pretty low— and if this situation aris…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 05:44 PM
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I think the difference is that you know your husband wanted to marry and have a physical relationship with you, and didn’t do it because of social/religious pressure. — Asexual folks can include people who still have a normative romantic orientation- like your husband — Asexual can also include people who enjoy sex even if they aren’t psychologically aroused by it- probably like your husband as well With the marriage in the article, we don’t have the full picture — he could be pan romantic and b…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 05:18 PM
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Ive dealt with this before. Pm me if you want any input
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 02:48 PM
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It’s plausible to be romantically attracted to men and women and to be more sexually attracted to men, but to still enjoy sex with women, and to be able to have a fulfilling relationship with a woman under these conditions — the problem is that even if those things are applicable here, he didn’t have a choice because of social/religious pressure and expectations. — If they aren’t applicable and the couple is deep in denial, it’s even sadder
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 02:42 PM
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Sounds like it would make for a good post.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 02:10 PM
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Actually, we know he’s telling the truth because she’s a 20 year old (now former) virgin: the only kind of woman he’ll commit too- emotionally, that is. High value men still gotta exercise their options…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 07:33 AM
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Like the flair!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 07:26 AM
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My favorite delicacy is Kobe beef… but that’s probably not very feminine of me
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 06:43 AM
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Happy for you and your family 🐈 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 06:31 AM
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Stop that, he’s mine! We already have a cat together, no home wrecking 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 06:14 AM
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The friendship part of the relationship kind of fizzled out- I still thought he was a decent dude , but we didn’t really enjoy spending non-romantic time together. I realized he had little interest in people other than himself. Not in a cruel sense— I think he just liked ideas, books, and being around people but not actually listening to them lol. He often seemed like he was waiting for people to finish talking so he could speak. Our lifestyles were too different. He was perpetually wanting to r…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 06:04 AM
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The common threads Ive seen: -women who had a tougher time socially -high anxiety -low self-esteem -prone to escapism and fantasizing -mental health or trauma history (Obviously doesn’t apply to everyone, but as far as patterns, this is what I’ve observed)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 04:01 AM
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If 6/6/6 applies to his wrist— nah, sis /s
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 02:57 AM
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The fact that it was Greece makes this even funnier
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 02:53 AM
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Wait. This rocks. Regarding the bigger point, it’s kind of mind boggling. I can’t imagine it either.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 02:31 AM
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Your flair made me nostalgic for pickles
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 05:49 AM
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Oh god. It’s amazing but I feel bad for both of them. Seems like a decent dude from the article though. Also: “The portrait is still sitting in his home and he says his next "puzzle" is how to move it.”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 04:16 AM
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WiFi extender? It totally falls under the umbrella of a medical expenses for the kitties 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 04:08 AM
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Fancy. I feel richer and more cultured just reading this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 03:36 AM
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Yup. Lie back and think of England (or Murica' )
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 12:46 AM
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Why are you dating older? Most relationship oriented people pair up between early 20s and early 30s, so when you get to mid 30s one is generally dealing with a smaller number of people that will meet their criteria unless they are looking for casual.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 03:42 AM
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If you have to talk to strangers, the old ones usually have the best stories.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 03:12 AM
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I’m speaking more terms of pain/injury. Vaginas tend to be more easily susceptible to this than are penises.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 11:24 PM
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Has some good insights, but also supports an overly cynical,tit-for-tat, ruthless approach that can be counterproductive, downplays the importance of acting in good faith to the extent possible, and fails to adequately acknowledge the value of certain (social) assortive mating strategies. It also goes too far with making strong assumptions based upon somewhat limited information, that are not always accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 10:42 PM
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Buy some trays. They’re surprisingly awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 09:46 AM
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I am not disregarding men. Sexual assault is a horrible experience for men. Genitalia being external does not equate to the act being physically worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 09:36 AM
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Assuming the porn is consensual and consumed in moderation, I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 05:33 AM
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I regret laughing at this
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 05:29 AM
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“That’s right, I just have sex with them”🎶
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 05:16 AM
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Daughter. They are both horrible situations, but being penetrated against ones will is likely more physically traumatic and also makes one more likely to contract an STD compared to being the party made to penetrate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 04:35 AM
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Context and what we are made to know are a big factor. Too much speculation and digging can have a negative impact. -My partner is awesome and doesn’t pay all the time. I don’t care. If I found out he always paid for another girl when he was a bit younger and maybe felt it was what he was “supposed “ to do, I wouldn’t care either as long as he was still loving and attentive -sexually, I’d rather just not know as long as there aren’t any major problems. Someone can love you more than anyone befor…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 09:21 PM
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I hope not. The trans community has to deal with enough judgement, they don’t need his ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 02:19 AM
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Yes. She also once tweeted something like:If my husband and I only had sex when I wanted it, we would have been celibate for the last 40 years. She’s absolutely insane and also an advocate of physically punishing babies/children, a defender of marital rape, and averse to women’s suffrage.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 02:02 AM
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I was born nervous, but excessive anxiety: heart beats faster, headache, stomach issues, harder to focus, then, pass out and possibly cry when it’s safe
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 11:54 PM
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They sound like opposites lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 11:51 PM
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Depends on if it’s new or used.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 11:44 PM
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I’m in favor of Romeo and Juliet laws. I don’t like the actual prosecution, but I don’t think it would go well if we legalize sexual relations between young and older teens or modify laws in a way allows access for sex between legal adults and those under the current age of consent. Teens in general can be very insecure, malleable, and impulsive, and on top of that we have a growing number of sexless men in the late teens/20s and some older, with a jaded tit-for-tat attitude on sexuality, which …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 10:53 PM
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Yeah, the colloquial use has sort of shifted. Im kind of torn. I don’t really know a good alternative; indulgence and acting on lust for post pubescent minors is very destructive and the stigma surrounding this has a protective effect, so I’m not sure of a solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 10:44 PM
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But what we should do about that depends a lot on culture and circumstances. I think there were probably signs that it wasn’t great to indulge or act on for a long time (although perhaps not in 8000 bc haha). We are at a point though, where, at least in Western nations, you would need a crazy amount of willful ignorance to proceed as if it is okay. Some people get very attached to their fantasies though, and even that can be problematic. I remember being 14, looking 16, and being looked at by mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 10:20 PM
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The gross part is the indulgence. Even being female, and less inclined to value youth, I can recognize that some high school athletes are obviously very attractive (and look older due to low body/ high muscle mass), but I don’t lean into “enjoying the view,” talk about it, or fantasize.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 08:42 PM
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My parents were attractive and had good romantic chemistry, but very incompatible personalities/temperaments for a long term relationship with one another. They are now happily divorced. In the current dating climate, they might have gone out but probably wouldn’t have married, but would have instead have found and married people who were at least somewhat more compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 05:16 AM
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Lying about it isn’t good, but if a guy doesn’t ask, you guys are happy together and you aren’t nostalgic over your past, you don’t really need to shove your number or the dimensions of your prior to partner in his face.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 05:01 AM
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Settling was probably worse in the past. The amount of financial and social pressure to marry was much higher and you were expected to pair up very early in life, so your chance of settling with someone you really didn’t want to be with at all, was higher. Most people that settle now are at least compatible in some ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 04:44 AM
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I’d imagine it’s largely fetish and some older guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 11:11 PM
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Congrats! 🎉🍾🎈
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 11:03 PM
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This dynamic isn’t good in either direction, but I had to laugh at the title.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 10:59 PM
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You don’t need share every fleeting thought, but intentionally misleading someone to make them think a relationship will turn into marriage is just a shitty thing to do
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 07:07 PM
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1 would be a woman, who, if unattached, might pursue just casual sex if she meets a guy who is hot but doesn’t meet her social/ romantic criteria for a relationship, BUT would want an actual relationship if/when she met someone who was hot and met the other criteria 2 would be a woman who exclusively wants casual sex no matter how great a guy is
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 07:07 AM
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Cyber Monday
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 05:33 AM
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Are you counting women who have some intentional casual sex, or referring to women who would still only want casual even if the guy met their short and long term standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 04:14 AM
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My girl has this too. It jiggles when she walks lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 03:51 AM
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Our cat does this too. We weren’t the ones who got her fixed, so I think it just recreational on her end.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 03:47 AM
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I’m too much of a wimp most of for that, but may keep the hissing in my Arsenal for emergencies. Thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 03:39 AM
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In middle/high school it was more from girls. In college+ , it was more from guys. Dudes love sluts who sleep with them, but sluts don’t sleep with all guys, and sometimes the guys who can’t sleep with them when their friends did, aren’t too happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 02:14 AM
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What do you usually do? Mine have generally been really well behaved, outside of stuff I truly don’t care about like scratching on crappy furniture I plan to toss when I move. No issues with agression, eating human food, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 12:22 AM
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You can’t really train them in the same way as dogs, but there are definitely things you can do to help, like not reinforcing bad behavior. Most cats aren’t actively antagonist though. If they don’t like you, they’ll often just stay away unless you initiate. I am a spineless cat owner though, so probably biased. Edit: sorry, fixed a typo
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 11:59 PM
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That’s fair, but I’d be curious about the rest of the story here. Cats that are extremely aggressive are really uncommon if your aren’t provoking them in some way. They will very seldom just walk up and attack you. Small misbehaved dogs will actually go up and bite people though, and that’s often a discipline problem. People give small dogs a crazy pass on behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 11:50 PM
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I seldom feel flattered by male attention… but a really pretty lesbian!? I’m positively tickled!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 11:44 PM
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Jesus lol. I’m hoping this is a troll. If the cat were so bad I couldn’t live with it unless there was improvement somehow, I guess I would tell her that. Maybe a behaviorist could have helped. I definitely wouldn’t have swapped the cats.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 11:39 PM
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This was wonderful. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 10:25 PM
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Very thoughtful :) also, lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 10:21 PM
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Shhh. Your not allowed to discuss it on the internet
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 09:56 PM
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Life largely sucked for men and women. What I’m getting at is that women were basically painted as less intellectually and functionally capable than they were and faced barriers to gainful employment than went beyond gender differences so that they basically had to pair up, even if the option available was repulsive to her, and so she wouldn’t have much in the way of an option to leave if things were bad. I don’t think the homemaker would have traded by any means. But more young women may have o…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 01:45 AM
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45!?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 12:20 AM
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80% Down as long as he’s not wiped out or busy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 12:17 AM
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Just don’t mix them up!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 12:15 AM
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But there was overarching inequality that affected women. Not being able to vote is pretty big.* That^ ? I was referring to women not being able to vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 11:49 PM
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I am a woman. You wrote that for most of history including today men have had the only votes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 11:43 PM
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Including today? Can you explain a little more?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 11:37 PM
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Historically women had advantages and privileges that men didn't have and vice versa. This is true, and life was hard for men too. But there was overarching inequality that affected women. Not being able to vote is pretty big.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 11:16 PM
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It’s a movement to address inequality affecting a demographic that makes up about 50% of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 10:55 PM
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Regarding the first comment- some women would still truly want to be with that person if there were compatibility in key areas. The catch is that it’s likely to be a woman with a lower relative SMV than they could have gotten when women sort of had to marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 08:42 PM
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A lot less financial and societal pressure to marry/pair up if you do not want to/with someone you do not want to much easier to leave a relationship in which there is mistreatment or abuse greater protection in general against sexual abuse and sexual harassment. My mom had to deal with a lot of shit as a 19 year old secretary, that would not have flown today. women’s intellectual and functional abilities are not downplayed as in the past, they don’t face the same barriers to gainful employment …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 08:36 PM
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A lot of women would rather not be with a man who had 0 other options as it’s a potential yellow flag for settling. That doesn’t mean we want a guy who can’t keep it in his pants. 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 04:03 AM
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1.At my age (31), something like 15-20 s about as high as I would be comfortable with. Its probably not considered very high, but it’s above average. I’d rather be with someone else who hadn’t been with people much outside of monogamous relationships and who hasn’t had a crazy number of girlfriends. When you get past a certain N-count, the chance that someone meets that criteria gets lower. 2/3. I care most about context than number itself. Generally though, I’ve observed that unless a man is ve…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 03:59 PM
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So, I can see this having an advantage in certain contexts — but unless you go to a super undeveloped area, Asian women have a reference level for what white men are “supposed to” look like- they expect them to be taller than Asian men and they’re not going to view a white guy being 5’10 the same way they would view an Asian guy being 5’10- it’s not going to have the same impact.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 09:13 AM
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I understand. I tried to acknowledge in my initial reply, but it may not have come across clearly
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 07:18 AM
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I think we have a difference of experiences and perspective on a lot of this. I do understand why there more focus and concern about how women treat men than in the past and I do agree FDS goes to places it shouldn’t. If you have to perform more and more for less and less for someone who can drop you in an instant, having some assurance she actually likes you as a person is neither assumed nor the default. Can you elaborate a little more? I recognize that dating/relationships have changed a lot,…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 06:30 AM
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😆 Mavis Beacon. Holy shit, didn’t not expect to read this. 10/10
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 05:10 AM
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I don’t actually feel attraction toward characters, but conceptually it’s MCU Captain America— as much as I’ve seen anyway (obviously attractive, capable, good listener, enjoyable to talk to) respectful, considerate of others, empathetic, and sweet. Calling elderly Peggy “his best girl,” not picking up mjolnir the first time because he didn’t want to hurt Thor heavily motivated by his principles and damn near incorruptible it’s not functional, but the extent to which he sacrifices for those he l…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 05:07 AM
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That’s makes sense— and I do agree that people shouldn’t be put on a pedestal. What I see a lot though is a sizable minority of people online who seem to have think that most (non-alpha ) husbands are really loving and attentive with wives that treat them like dirt. I know many married couples and this does happen and it is awful- but it’s not the norm, and I see just as many couples where the woman is more loving and attentive and the husband is disrespectful .
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 04:15 AM
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Displaced anger. Sometimes people lean into anger because it’s so powerful that it can mask sadness for a time. But that anger can spiral and go places it shouldn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 02:51 AM
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I came to write this— he may be in such a bad place that he can’t actively father, and it’s understandable. But scolding and rejecting her completely is awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 02:38 AM
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-Men irl, generally seem to like women as people more than so than do the men here -Men irl seem to care more about the non-sexual elements of compatibility than do men here -Men irl are not very focused on n-counts -I don’t usually see men in relationships putting women on a pedestal in way it’s described here, unless the women is obviously out of his league or he’s in that early infatuation stage that often involves a lot of projecting ideals onto the other party.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 02:25 AM
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Yeah, I really wish women had more baseline lust for their linear smv match, but we cannot will it into existence. Your approach makes sense. I think the second component could help a lot to pair people up. The men having to work harder part isnt fair, I don’t actually find the non-top men dating down in smv to be unfair though. It’s allows them a partner who they still want to sleep with, who wants them in a way that men deeply want to be wanted, and a far chance to “lead” in a non-LARP-ing way…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 12:46 AM
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A huge part of hypergamy, and the part that correlates with sexual selectivity, is that women prefer men who have attributes that actually make them more capable. The forces that were in place to discourage women from gainful employment and to devalue women’s work, and conversely, to boost the compensation provided for men’s labor didn’t actually generate lust in women because it was largely artificial. It did make women more way likely to have to pair with men they didn’t want to sleep with tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 09:19 PM
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If the women dont like having sex with their husbands much, then decreasing the male demands helps keep the burden on the women manageable Right, I think this part played a way bigger role in happy past marriages with mid/lower smv couples than is acknowledged. I also think women were more inclined to be compliant with forced monogamy when virginity until marriage was a norm because they hadn’t actually experienced undesirable sex before.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 12:16 PM
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Yes, quelling sexual expectations probably played a huge role. Lack of adequate conception and less leisure time (and probably more physical labor— even with traditional home making, which can zap energy ) would also have diminished male expectation for the more adventurous, frequent sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 12:03 PM
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I think romantic love is mostly erotic love with a little bit of mystery sauce. But maybe we are talking about friendly love with the same mystery sauce. We have a difference of opinion here. I think women, even in when there’s a lack of lust , and even in the presence of familiarity, can experience a very strong, even butterfly inducing type of love for a man, that is totally different for the love she has toward anyone else. It’s probably most observable in really lovey-dovey very old couples …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 11:55 AM
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No, that's what you don't understand. He isn't comparing the wife to the mistress. He is fucking the mistress because she is new, not because she is better. I understand that the craving for variety is the driver, but men, even though they have a much lower attraction floor, still prefer to optimize the desirability of who they sleep when they can. Given the choice, they’ll go hotter, more sexually bold (unless they’re super vanilla) and possibly more appealing personality to the extent that the…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 02:14 AM
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The genders are shitty in both overlapping and different ways. With regard to wanting to fuck other women even though they love their current women— this is not a simple, inconsequential thing. If men have the means and choose to act on this desire, they detract time and energy away from a couple and their children (if they have them), expose the woman to increased ongoing danger of disease, invite excessive ongoing comparison between the woman and other partners, and men, while often less susce…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 01:43 AM
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Men still check out or become less respectful, interested, or attentive for many other reasons. Yes— average men are generally more likely to stick out the relationship than are women when things go wrong or they are dissatisfied with a partner , but most men have higher sex drives then women, cannot get sex without a relationship, and have fewer dating opportunities period, so the desire to stay can be kind of a mixed bag. I’m not saying men are bad partners because they aren’t— there are shitt…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 01:21 AM
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And dont act too passive (boring, doormat ) or assertive (emasculating, nagging). Be pleasant to talk to… no, not like that. Just be supportive and a good listener… well, dont just nod, contribute and be interesting… geez, your too boisterous, at first I thought your enthusiasm was endearing, but that’s a little annoying. Alright, now your quieter.. but kind of awkward. Aren’t women supposed to be the socially graceful ones? What was she talking about anyway. Women’s interests are boring. Wait, …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 12:56 AM
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Just don't turn into a balloon or a raving bitch and he'll still think you are made of sunshine. This really isn’t true. In the early stages of infatuation, men sometimes have a super idealized view of the woman, but this is not the norm for established couples, even good ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 12:02 AM
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Romantic love. I think a suprising number of women can be in love with a man without having much lust— but the problem of course that she still doesn’t really want to sleep with him in the absence of lust. In the scenario you described, if sex weren’t a part of the relationship and women were free to find a compatible mate who wasn’t higher status, a lot more women (but not men) would be interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 09:33 PM
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I don’t know if there’s ever been a way to measure this but I think a lot- maybe even the majority of average women are capable of loving average men- they just don’t have proportional lust.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 09:17 PM
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I recall this being a difficulty when you posted a couple of years ago along with some other challenges in the relationship. Have things improved at all since then? Was there anything that helped? The other big question is whether you feel indifferent about sex with him, or dislike it.
/r/RedPillWomen28/10/21 09:08 PM
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If it looks good on him and is congruent with his personality/interests and kind of woman he likes then niche is a often a good approach— it basically means you are being compared to a smaller pool of men (it’s not as powerful, but it’s kind of like being a well styled alt girl to guys who prefer it— less competition with other women) However, if your very good looking, and already have a wide spread appeal, it can be counterproductive as you acknowledged.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 01:47 PM
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Recommend 10/10. Consider adopting an adult cat if you can— they are lower maintenance, you get a better sense of their personality, and they tend to have a harder time getting adopted since so many people automatically gravitate toward kittens.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 12:22 PM
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Some cats are just way more shy than others, but you may also want to check out Jackson Galaxy. He’s a cat behaviorist with a lot of helpful advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 12:18 PM
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Nah. Having a genital preference is extremely common and valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 03:09 AM
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The swingers handshak Edit: I’m being totally sarcastic. It’s totally fucked up if someone unwelcome did that
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 12:40 AM
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Physical/job and education— probably good. Personality- no, I am too anxious and would stress me out
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 12:20 AM
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Thanks. I do think differences in cultural (male) beauty standards can have a small impact, but not to the degree hoped for.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 12:07 AM
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Being a rich foreigner mainly boosts RMV rather than SMV, so if the goal is mainly for romance and companionship you might find something nice… but if you are looking for a really physical relationship and know that your SMV hasn’t actually gone up, then they know that a notably-higher-smv-than-they-could-get-at-home, foreign women may not actually be thrilled about the physical element of the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 10:37 PM
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Social and romantic desire for pair bond/monogamous relationship while having a type of sexual selectivity that is more conducive to polygamy that 1:1 pairings with men that are a linear smv match or lower? (Except for women in top 20-ish percent who seem to have a good amount of lust for parallel men).?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 09:47 PM
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What is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 05:19 AM
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I never nag… it’s not what a lady does. Just kidding, I don’t nag because I have a partner who is very organized and structured, so I don’t need to 🤷‍♀️ ….I am exceptionally lucky and would probably have to give a lot more reminders if he weren’t so awesome in this area. Sometimes he’s “nags” me a little … and he’s usually right lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 05:13 AM
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You’re like a (very specific) encyclopedia!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 02:12 AM
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Yikes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 10:01 PM
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Maybe look into a lash lift?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 10:00 PM
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I know, it sucks :/ I don’t know how common it is but make sure to do your research before making any decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 09:39 PM
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It can also darken the tissue around your eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 09:28 PM
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You lost me at gallon of milk
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 09:26 PM
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Reasonably good looking probably wouldn’t do much. Very good looking might be attractive to late 20s, but still probably not preferable if they could get someone sufficiently attractive under 35.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 09:22 PM
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Sorry, I added to my comment after you replied* Yeah, some of the stuff is just too implausible and divisive, but for the most part, the benign implausible stuff is alright with me, outside of the sustainability factor. Who knows though? People might hold onto the less outlandish “beneficial” parts pretty tight even if it borders on LARPing. Willful ignorance is strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 05:59 PM
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Some Christians have told me they believe Jesus is divine/“the son of god” in a spiritual sense, but that Joseph brought him into physical existence. I don’t know if beliefs like this will prevail, but humans really like believing in the spiritual; it’s hard to imagine it being totally phased out. I like the idea of a secular religion but people tend to adhere far more to moral codes when there’s a divine element (the belief that the meek/ disenfranchised/ dutiful will flourish in the end has a …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 05:36 PM
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I have a generally favorable view of religion in it’s more moderate forms. It’s helped a lot of people persevere through hardship. Given the choice I’d like to believe myself but I’ve never been able. I actually cannot imagine the world without it. I was hoping it would help with the sexlessness issue haha. What kind of replacement do you envision?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 03:17 PM
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I know you like bigger than most, but it still throws me how many folks on here don’t like big girls at all. The majority of young-ish men I know seem to find similar aged chubby women pretty attractive, even if they prefer thin.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 11:54 PM
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Ya. The training/expanding limits is the part that concerns me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 11:23 PM
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I don’t know what kind of physician you are, but does anal concern you at all? Like, from a GI health standpoint?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 11:06 PM
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Jell-O shots all around!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 09:57 PM
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It was a random musing, but I actually like the idea a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 09:56 PM
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Paging Utah!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 06:37 PM
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This is how George gets a woman in Seinfeld! Her date (I think it might even be her husband) doesn’t say it and she’s so upset she hooks up with George, who does. It really was a show about nothing lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 07:27 AM
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Will check out. Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 07:22 AM
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I don’t align with the appeal to nature as I don’t think women’s higher sexual selectivity is a good thing— I just think it’s largely intractable. I wish it was different and perhaps things will change if humanity is around long enough. Women are not abstaining though single motherhood is on the rise if they were abstaining then that would not be the case. I don’t advocate for the general model, but single mothers may still be abstaining from the sex they dont want. Why not will yourself to not …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 03:31 AM
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I am open to entertain new ideas but willing oneself to enjoy intercourse despite aversion is not effective. Women’s higher sexual selectivity is not illogical. There are evolutionary reasons why mid-ish and lower level smv women aren’t aroused by their smv match. So let's analyze that. Women must act on their instincts, and cannot choose to do otherwise. There literally is nothing in this world that can make women behave like anything other than monkeys in the jungle. So why should they be trea…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 02:48 AM
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I don’t think you understand what it is like for a lot of women to have sex they don’t want. It’s not a pleasant thing, and to be honest, I’m not sure how great it is for men as whole to understand it, if we have any other alternative for minimizing/moving away from it. I want men to feel desired too, but it might mean that men who aren’t at the top of the hierarchy date a woman with lower smv than they would have gotten in the past. You're not allowing them to use your body, your choosing who y…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 01:45 AM
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Women cannot will their way though this. If the option was there, why wouldn’t women en mass not want to easily enjoy, or at least find pleasant sex with the men willing to commit to them? Regarding the instincts, these are two very different asks. is basically: allow someone else to use your body in a very intimate way even if it causes distress is basically: do not voluntarily cause harm to someone’s else’s body
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 12:38 AM
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This is true. For a huge chunk of modern history though, women paired with men that were roughly their smv match or a bit lower, and most of them (unless the women and, therefore her partner, had quite high Smv) did not want regular sex with those men. They weren’t sleeping around before marriage, looking at female-oriented adult entertainment, or on tinder… but there was still an issue with men being upset (and I get it) about their wives not wanting sex regularly/not feeling desired by their w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 12:09 AM
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I’m saying that if women weren’t socially discouraged, paid less, and judged to be less capable than they actually were, then they could have competed in the work force in a way that lead to more women being able to earn a living and to not be made to pair with those they didn’t want to marry. Some jobs would have been out of their wheelhouse— but this was true for enough men as well (ex: most 45 year old men couldn’t do the same labor as the 20 year olds). White collar (and similar) jobs were n…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 11:46 PM
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It’s not about women fantasizing about other men— it’s about a woman having enough lust for a prospective partner to find sex reasonably pleasant. If a man is objectively unattractive to her, then that man ranking highly in attractiveness compared to the other men might salvage things to the point where she finds him desirable enough to pair with. If he’s objectively unattractive and she doesn’t have any kind of reference to other men? I don’t know what would happen, but it’s not really not feas…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 11:02 PM
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Because the rank is in terms of men overall, rather than what a single woman can get-ex: If you have a mixed gender village with 200 people and all the men are ugly, the 100 women are probably only going to find a small number sufficiently attractive, even though the men aren’t available to all the women. Regarding the second point, this was largely true in prehistoric times but became become much less so throughout history. Not all jobs were that physically taxing—- men who weren’t particularly…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 09:47 PM
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The placebo effect is limited, especially for long term pervasive issues Regarding the second situation, women gauge male attractiveness somewhat by absolute standards and somewhat by rank. If all the men were ugly , she might shift more to the rank criteria and still find the least ugly men sufficiently attractive. Can you explain the last part a little more?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 08:47 PM
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Women aren’t animals, but there are some attributes that are largely intractable (I.e. many mid-lower smv women not finding same rank men desirable). They cannot will themselves to feel differently. It sucks and I wish all women could have the same lust as a man does for his linear smv match, but It’s not the case. Edit: the functional side of this is that society had to impose a lot of restrictions to basically force women to pair with/sleep with men who women found it not pleasant to sleep wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 07:00 PM
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