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"For sure, no institution of research is credible, peer reviewed studies are untrue, so what's left? Your personal gnosis? Certainly not any objective material that can be submitted to support your abundance of opinions." Testing the ideologies worldviews for internal consistency (what I am going for in the original post). or, as Beneficent said, taking a long hard look at the studies and make sure it is highly rigorous, with falsifiable hypothesis. Make sure input data is highly subjective (as …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 11:25 PM
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yes, exactly. What we have is feminists and Women generally making accusations of very bad things against men. There is no hard evidence of these things occurring at anywhere near the magnitude they claim. We are told to 'just believe bro' but they, themselves, do not seem to believe their own claims, as evidenced by their behavior. similarly, the studies have major issues under the hood. I've literally never seen one where the conductors did not allow themselves major subjective control over da…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 11:11 PM
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"Nor is me advocating taking the risk suicidal men pose to their families seriously by sharing information and asking questions in order to prevent loss of life" Nice try, but what was advocated and supported a complete throwing out the window of medical privacy for Men who call the suicide hotlines, an immediate flagging of them as likely abusers (entailing impromptu police visits and a loss of what in the U.S. might be called '4th amendment protections'). When challenged that the justification…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 11:00 PM
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?- MGTOWs / MRM can have this problem and it has no bearing on whether Feminists do also. This is a false dialectic.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 10:46 PM
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I will quibble with your point about "Most people do not want to harm you. But how do you separate the crazies from the normies? You put in safeguards and act accordingly. That’s for men and women.". I am not referring to this belief- i.e. that it's the "crazies" (a small subset) of Men you have to be worried about and not the "normies" (the great masses) Bluepillers and feminists herre, and in Surveys, and IRL, report that it is "normal" and "normie"(huge fraction- 25% to 95%) of Men are routin…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 10:43 PM
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Well, Redpill would also teach that Women, desiring social status and resources, are going to protect those things or try to attain those things by acting as a damsel in distress abused by Men. If a Woman wants to monkeybranch to a higher SMV Man, to avoid social stigma as being a shameless gold digger/ cheater, etc. is going to smear her ex-boyfriends as manipulators and abusers. Within relationship it can cause the lizard brain of the Male partner to kick into mate guarding mode if she accuses…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 10:37 PM
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this reminds me of how there was a big push in like the NYT and the usual suspects during MeToo around "The Reasonable Man" standard in law being supplanted by "The Reasonable Woman" standard. Here, you have no answer to all the inconsistencies of behavior I referenced in the post, the seeking of supposed danger in a way wildly inconsistent to the claimed harms done to you (where, if the claimed harms were true yet Women's behaviors were as they are, would amount to utter masochism), yet this is…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 04:29 AM
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Feminists and Bluepill Women are claiming numbers orders of magnitude greater than skin cancer, car accidents (someone mentioned below). It is simply a Motte and Bailey fallacy to claim 25%- 95% incidences of Male violence against Women and then retreat to how people take risks of harms 1/100 as frequent. Also, some of my examples in the original post are all risk, near 0 reward. Clubbing is an example, or selecting for more aggressive Men as partners, particularly when you have kids (after leav…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 04:19 AM
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“I have no pussy to coom in = lonely”. MGTOW and Redpill men say this in order to say/cope 'Men only need Women to access her poosay' But a criticism using the principle I laid in my post would be these guys either don't use prostitutes (even when legal), regard prozzies as unfulfilling and are nonetheless still obsessed with Women. This shows they want more from Women than just their poosay. This is because their revealed preference is to have a medium/long term relationship regardless of their…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 04:03 AM
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"Women are not expecting men to believe us — the only thing that matters is that we have an answer when men ask/argue, and they can choose to believe us or not." You are RedPill. Among Women generally this is not at all the case. You will be moralized hardcore and cannot express the skepticism towards Women's claims of Male violence, no matter how outlandish, in a workplace. I was recently b1tched at IRL for using this principle in regard to Graham Platner, invoking that his accusers all regular…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:51 AM
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? Seems to me you are doing a "basic b1tch false dialectic" MRAs can have different stated preferences and revealed preferences, which I admitted in an attempt to be nuanced, and yet Feminists have this issue to a greater or equal degree? these two things are not at all exclusive
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:45 AM
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"Wait...you actually want women to react to the reality of how some men have generically treated us despite not being able to instantly terminator style sense which men are safe and unsafe? I mean if you insist...ahem. I think men should rounded up into camps have their willies caged and have to wear handcuffs, feet cuffs, and a shock collar to leave their houses. They can have a cute little key around their necks that a woman can unlock if she feels safe enough. Let's advocate about this, circl…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:38 AM
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i'm not obligated to make a post about how MGTOW/ Redpill/ MRAs' revealed preference differs from their stated preference- particularly as the ways in which they differ are not at all the same as here. Mostly, as I stated, is claiming to eschew Women but becoming a complete simp any time a Woman shows him attention. I personally can't think of any more examples so it would be a short post and I like muh wall of texts. you're welcome to make that post and I encourage this principle to be applied …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:28 AM
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"Fair. I mean men have done that for eternity already so that’s nothing new. Then don’t morally shame us for not caring about men’s mental health, suicide rates and the “loneliness epidemic.” Do we have a deal?" Egregious category error here. Note, I highly intentionally used the word "credulity" as to not refer to rational, warranted belief of Women's self-reports. The equivalent in your example would be not caring about a guy who claims to be su1cidal yet behaves completely jolly and counter t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:22 AM
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Imagine thinking you're gonna win an argument by victim blaming. Guys going around victim blaming women isn't really proving those women wrong. None of this is an argument or counterclaim against me. Saying I'm "Victim blaming" has no bearing on the truth values of my claims and smacks of ad hominem "It's always ironic that the men who hate radical feminists the most end up proving those women right." Yes, Radfems are more internally consistent, at least than normie fems. Normie fems obscure the…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:15 AM
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It is like someone saying they were robbed but then you deny it because one study said robberies were rare. That is not the argument being made. If one claims to have been robbed yet prominently flashes wads of hundos near the site of the robbery at the same time the next day, there is reasonable cause for skepticism. I'm not just being a d1ck by being skeptical. Feminists claims are tantamount to bl00d libel against Men so they need to not lie, embellish or exaggerate against us.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:12 AM
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yes but Feminist claimed beliefs are deranged smears/ bl00d libel against Men as compared to the other way around. White Lie versus Evil False witness and institutional violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:08 AM
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there is an order of magnitude in per capita. Feminists/ Blue pillers here claim large swathes, 25%+ of Women experience brutal violence on a regular basis. The probability of being injured in a dangerous car accident is an order of magnitude (literally <1/100x) lesser than this. Also, it is low/0 cost to engage in many of the behaviors I list above. Don't get drunk clubbing. Don't choose the thug. Why would any sane/rational person engage in these behaviors for near 0 reward if the risk is cata…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:07 AM
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"Are most people thieves or robbers? But if you lived in a bad area, and these things happened to you somewhat regularly or to people you know, you would be distrusting of the whole area despite knowing the majority of people are fine and normal" Yes but Women are not behaving like this whatsoever. They LARP online as if they do, but they do not. This is actually exactly the point I am making. "If you get mugged and youre traumatized, you may not exactly be able to wake up the next day and just …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:01 AM
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My man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:57 AM
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u/efficientaficionado plz repost your comment/meme under this one lol. I would like to steal that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:52 AM
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Many in the MRM including myself, admit this. I have seen prominent MRM guys such as Goldberg point this out. They point out MGTOWs/Redpillers/ MRAs secretly still crave Women nand Long-Term Relationships and want to be Betabuxxers. I have no issue with this claim. This is a general principle. Revelaed Preference versus Stated Preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:51 AM
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alright but the point of the post is they do not behave accordingly to their stated beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:48 AM
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yes sir that is how I realized I was incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:19 AM
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Indeed. For the 420,069th time, FELLAS: Under no cirmcumstances let Feminists Moralize you. Do not envibe their moralizations of you. Remember, these are not good people. These are not caring people. They embody no Feminine virtues you might associate with Women. Write that on the Blackboard 100 times and never forget it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:18 AM
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so many people conflate Women not settling into LTRs with "not wanting Men". Stats on Women's rate of casual sex being unchanged (I.E. not decreasing) in recent years reveals this to be a cope. It comes from two factions: celibate Men attempting to cope with 'W0men are not into Men generally' type content, s opposed to Women are into other Men and not into ME, and Feminists attempting to claim (i.e. 'Women don't need no Man') Women are very interested in getting in short term hookups and are eng…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:15 AM
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'it was like this in '03 or is like this temporarily therefore it is always and will always be like this' this is waning. muh induction fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:00 AM
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there was a meme that went around twitter years ago comparing Women Stars unfavorably to 'The Cashier at Wawa'. Movies and Film are typically not casting Gigastacies. Particularly since Weinstein and the casting couch crew got popped. It has been speculated this is because Women have to relate to Female leads to get interested in a movie. Or because of just raw jealousy. this is obviously true. Many Male movie stars are utter male model tier gigachads as compared to Sydney Sweeney and Zendaya wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 01:54 AM
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fair
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 01:45 AM
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Sometimes I suspect you're a Woman LARPing as a gay man but then posts like this remind me I was wrong...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 01:43 AM
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Open-ended responses were analyzed using directed content analysis, which is subjective interpretation of text data through a systematic classification process of coding (Hsieh & Shannon, 2005). As coding proceeded, categories were identified and modified to capture all dimensions of the data (Morgan, 1993). This study was the author's subjective interpretation of Men's answers, not their actual answers. It's slop and blood libel.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 09:48 PM
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false. Study is not looking at the actual men's answers. it is the study author's subjective interpretations of their answers. Open-ended responses were analyzed using directed content analysis, which is subjective interpretation of text data through a systematic classification process of coding (Hsieh & Shannon, 2005). As coding proceeded, categories were identified and modified to capture all dimensions of the data (Morgan, 1993). Study is slop to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 09:43 PM
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"I hate to do the anti intellectual thing of being anti science, because I love science. But pretty much all of the social science research I have read seems like pure slop. And there are no actual standards.. Stuff that would get you a C on an undergrad paper in a hard science." Absolutely. It comes across as anti-intellectual, but at this point, we're just supposed to ignore all the major retractions of Feminists shock studies, fraud in the research, and completely fabricated studies (a la Jam…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:51 PM
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unironically calling for genocide cool cool cool you guys realizing your moralizing of redpilers is just utterly comical at this point? The reduction of the male population would mean your quality of life would be dramatically reduced because Men would not be their to support you with their labor and validate you with romantic attention. The surviving men would have waay more market leverage.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 12:43 AM
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"I have no idea how this study worked. In some parts of the study they made it sound like men directly checked a box that said "yeah I did this" and in some parts it made it sound like they had more open ended questions and they shoved answers into the most evil interpretations of them possible." Please realize there is a decent possibility this entire study is fabricated outright. We see ergregious errors in many of these feminists shock studies- like the one where 30% of Men leave their wives …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:15 PM
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alright but that wasn't clear from Present Afternoon's comment at all. And I think a big concern of depriving men of collectivity identities (or rather, saying male identity= bad) and social clubs is going to mean that they seek identities on 4chan. you referenced gamergate earlier. You had dudes bonding over games with hot woman avatatars, you got that nuked, and then those dudes moved to 4chan antics for bonding own goal tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 10:50 PM
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this is a terminally online take that's circlerjerked endlessly on this sub. No, men typically do not believe your deranged radfem priors that 95% of men are grapists and killers one rejection away from m assacring dozens of people. "Show me the studies lol"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 07:45 PM
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She does not believe this. Her behavior / revealed preference IRL would show she does not, regardless of what she states. But she's going to say that she does for Manbadism udoots on the internet. many such cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 07:41 PM
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much of that stuff under 4 is not coercion, either. some of it is. alsso judging all men for behavior of 1 in 4, in a study that's probably an outright fabrication to begin with, considering how its researchers misconstrued their own results and clearly had an agenda/ goal in mind (admitted in the intro) Women's deceptive makeup and tight clothing made me a misogynist absurd and arbitrary standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 07:28 PM
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yeah but again that's arbitrary IMHO. There's really not much of a difference in principle between beta buxxing and prostitution. If a guy you meet at a bar or on an app spends tons of money on clothes and vacations for you, his intent is obvious. It's infantilization of Women that they are incapable of realizing this (and don't moralize me, you just shamed men for being deceived by Women's makeup and spandex) If a Woman is unsure in this situation she could even just ask the betabuxxer if he is…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 06:35 PM
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"It's using money, that someone needs, as a means of coercion." You are here rejecting all markets and all wage labor. Scarcity and demand drives markets. Obviously something like Mr. Beast or Fear Factor having ppl do humiliation rituals for money is extremely degenerate. But there needs to be significantly more nuance in this because again, this example has lots of implications you cannot consistently hold to. A well paid escort or a guy who buys Women fancy clothes or takes her on vacation as…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 06:30 PM
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"if you're fooled by Rizz and aggressive simping, it's still not coercion, it's a you problem"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 06:21 PM
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That's more rare on this thread than those like myself pointing out that using this as Manbadism is hypocritical because Women do the same things to men. You then have many feminists saying it doesn't count when Women do similar things, proving the point none of this about principle but just meant as a convenient man bad cudgel.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 06:17 PM
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The same can be said of most Male rizz or pestering. Why are Women going to keep a guy in their orbit who keep pestering her romantically? A Woman who thinks the broccoli haired brad who she rejected now just wants to be friend and won't continue to lust after her has got major problems. Or if she thinks he is really Henry Cavill's cousin or whatever. Severe infantilization to say Women can't see through this and are "coerced" by this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 06:13 PM
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Who is cyberbullying Social Media and Masculinity : University of Dayton, Ohio It wasn't just reddit I misremembered. 31% of Women aged 18-25 have cyberbullied Men. Do you really think Women never body-shame Men or engage in these obnoxious behaviors? Again, I would caution, you should not expand the definition of words dramatically, and not expect it to come back around on Women. Men do the most dramatically anti social stuff violent crime but that's a small fraction of men. if you broaden the …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 06:03 PM
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yep indeed. Female in-group preference is such they have to just rush into defend anyone from their side by any rhetorical means necessary. I mean honestly there's a very "humiliation ritual" type aspect here. Like in this specific thread. They spend so much time elsewhere denying RedPill/ Bla ckpill Truths, and then come along and in a mocking tone, confirm all of them. if you want an image of the future, Winston, it's a feminist gloating "It's not happening but it's a good thing" for eternity.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:35 PM
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you're coercing me into this response rn fr
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:31 PM
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it's called testing for consistency. Giving hypotheticals to see if the standard really works or is held consistently IRL. "but I did have breakfast this morning"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:30 PM
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Ok, so then what, lack of wealth? lack of social status? These are also RedPill talking points. The clear implication of your comment is shaming men for not living up to certain Masculine ideals (being "losers"); the ideals being influenced by trad gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:28 PM
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Redefining, twisting and broadening words beyond their definition is going to backfire for the most severe cases. If you tell people r@pe= simping for a Woman and telling her she's the hottest woman he's ever seen= grape and coercion, or asking a Woman to get a room= grape and coercion, then you are minimizing actual instances of grape. Anytime going forward you use the words "grape" or "coercion" it's going to be associated with silly shit like simping, hence minimizing the power of the word...…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:23 PM
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No, that's arbitrary. Coercion = the act of forcing someone to do something they do not want to do, using threats, intimidation, or physical force. Not limited solely to sex. So I will repeat my question. and the makeup one relates to sex anyway. Man would not have consented if the Women did not have makeup. People honestly do not realize you don't get to make up post-hoc justifications and exceptions on convenience. That's fallacious and not allowed in argument/debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:15 PM
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would you agree similar percentages of Women engage in that behavior, as men who engage in the activities in the original post? Studies have been done showing Reddit Women give visceral nasty reactions to Male displays of vulnerabilities and body shaming of Men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:12 PM
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yep, exactly. Again, they broaden definitions as a pedantic and crude tool to do "Man badism" talking points. When the obvious implication that Women also engage in the broadened definition behavior, suddenly it doesn't count. Feminists do not seem to understand making arbitrary and post-hoc exceptions to their own rules and principles means they lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:11 PM
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if a car salesman embellishes a car's features to me, even though I have recourse to investigate or not to buy, is that coercion? If a Woman uses makeup, making me think her face looks like what I want to see, is that coercion? This is one the most pedantic feminist tactics. Just pure and utter equivocation. They redefine words to give off a false impression.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:08 PM
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Um, you do realize essentializing RP and Gamergate Men because of their appearance and lack of charisma supports and confirms the RedPill worldview? That Women are shallow and will disrespect Men for the things that they cannot change? The inability of the BluePillers to understand the other side is just astonishing to me. Why debate if you have made no effort to understand what the other side is arguing?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:06 PM
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What he/ she is doing here needs to be recognized as an informal logical fallacy. Feminists redefine/ broaden the definition of words like "coercion" to fit an agenda. When it's pointed out that the new expanded definition means Women frequently Coerce Men, suddenly it doesn't count anymore and is irrelevant. They trivialize it and retreat back to the narrower definition. Feminists genuinely do not seem to understand making arbitrary post-hoc exceptions and excuses for things means they lose the…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 04:59 PM
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Women did not invent WiFi, nor Computers, nor make major contributions to either, although they did make some minor ones. Feminist hidden figurism was meant as fan fiction and not historical fact. Unironically presenting this unfalsifiable (key word 'hidden') claim is very slop-coded.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 04:45 PM
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muh goomba fallacy (some men desire this therefore all men desire this) and boomer bewilderment syndrome fallacy (massive generational gap in who desires this)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 12:42 AM
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you need to first provide evidence these systems exist and, target woman and not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 12:41 AM
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This is a category error. What is being discussed is when Women do bad things to Men, it is assumed Men did something to deserve it. If a husband does a bad thing to his wife and we assume the wife deserve it, sure, we should not assume that. But if a woman by her own admission, as they usually do, acknowledge they deprive their husband of sex, this is not doing mental gymnastics for the husband. This is just the wife's own admission lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 12:38 AM
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Correct "Men" to "Feminist Men". Every Man in a prominent position of power in the Western World for the past generation has been a *Feminist*
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 12:35 AM
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just world fallacy. you can't just assume 'Men in unhappy marriages, singeldom or divorce are in those situations because they don't put in effort' because it seems just. you need to demonstrate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 03:46 PM
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Many Men do not desire to be your utility.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 03:43 PM
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"Women will date “down” quite readily if the man brings something other than money to the relationship." Yes, and these things he might bring are being physically attractive, or being charismatic, particularly dark triad. If a Man has these traits, Women will forgive his lower income.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 03:42 PM
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the "safety valve" for these Women is Online Dating with lots of physically attractive men, tho. I don't really believe Women are "checked out" if they have consistent casual sex hookups with men. It seems to be "girl power" and "don't need no man" cope when people say Women are just checked out of dating and Men just because they settle down far later than they used to. If they lose Online Dating and casual hookups, we will see significant weeping and gnashing of teeth by these supposedly indep…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 03:40 PM
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"Well, men who choose to self victimise and blame women for everything wrong in their lives will stay single, and continue whining about their dissatisfaction while dodging accountability online. Those who don't, will thrive better." Only if he is not physically attractive. Women do not value the things they claim they do in men. The revealed preference vs. stated preference gap is larger every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 04:08 AM
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These are fair points and I agree with this. What also makes this the case, though, is Women tend to respond to emotional salience more than men and it influences judgements more than men. This is well documented in studies. So I can see that if a Woman worked out a woman's shelter, that is a highly emotionally salient experience. It influences judgements they make in other cases more than men. They are going to apply/ retcon the sympathetic women they've encountered into every instance of spous…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 03:36 AM
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The study he linked looks at the average likelihood to initiate war. Obviously, because men are a majority of the sovereigns, they initiated a higher *absolute* number of wars. Pointing this out is completely irrelevant. It's about per capita/ per sovereign likelihood. When women *are given the power* they are more likely to wage war. Nothing you have said addresses this in any way and therefore this appears to be projection: "You have demonstrated rudimentary knowledge of how to read studies—yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 03:07 AM
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if the average woman with children works 20 hours/ week , which you would see in the artice if you had not merely read the title, it means not more than around half are working full time. In direct contradiction to what you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:48 AM
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Objectively incorrect. Working husbands have more leisure time than working wives in US | Pew Research Center "feminists had like 8 foundational beliefs and all of them were deboonked decades ago"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:18 AM
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Wait so does the Save Act require one form of ID to vote? The default ID is going to be drivers' license/ state ID... Right off the bat, we're dealing with a tiny fraction of people that don't have one of these. Among these people, they will need a birth certificate or passport. Among this small fraction of people, people who have changed names (mostly married women) will not be able to present their birth certificate. I don't follow day to day US politics because of rampant slop but it seems li…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 03:19 AM
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While I would concede true crime shows overrepresent the proportion of violent crime women do (at least per Government Crime Stats), part of the reason for this is because they focus on premeditated, highly interpersonal crime. Not random low-impulse control homicides. The premediated highly interpersonal crime is a little less male and a little more female than murders in general. Also, this is done for women. I saw one of the major feminists accounts on youtube doing apologia as to why women b…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 02:58 AM
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Agreed, but would you agree "the bar" has increased not only for these factors such as men doing more childcare/ domestic work/ household tasks, but also in the realm of things men *cannot* change, like physical attractiveness , some strictly immutable, like height/ whatever? or things like preferences for a man having a high income? If women are raising the bar on the things you describe, because of the increased leverage women know have due to having access to "high-income, white collar work, …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 02:49 AM
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"Lol, now I know you're just making stuff up. They have zero respect for the work of it-- they view it as the grunt work females are supposed to do without appreciation or respect. They want to consume it sure, but they also describe women's work as inherently inferior worthless shit that's unworthy of respect." You should familiarize yourself with your opponents. Among the manosphere, tradcons ("tradcucks") are by far and away the largest faction as compared to orthodox Redpill/ PUA (let's be r…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 02:34 AM
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The Life of Man is Nasty Brutish, and Short I can spot you this. What the study found is that a Female European Monarch is 27% more likely to initiate a war than a Male European Monarch, across the range studied. Interestingly, it found no basis for the belief 'unmarried women were not acknowledged as Kween regnant and thus got attacked more!'. Agnatic succession was far more dominant in all levels of land-owning society than strict patrilineal succession. It is extremely difficult to quantify t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 02:18 AM
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"You can't also want or even demand the supplementary income provided by his labor Did I stutter? I said it is valuable for a man to spend time with his kids and I fucking meant it. work full time in large part so that their father will be able to spend time with their kids. You do not get to make up lies about my values just to call me a hypocrite." "You" was referring to Woman I know, that I was referencing in this scenario. That is who I was referring to. I don't know you or anything about be…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 12:50 AM
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"The outdoor work and repairs is not as much of a consistent labor, though, which is why the traditional husband still found time to do these things even while working 40+ hours a week, while the housewife did all of the domestic work" True, but this cuts in the opposite direction, too. Lots of men do long hours of labor all at once such as in home renovations, spending several weekends and evenings, racking up a lot of hours of work. This is also not captured in the 'studies' of this topic, bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 12:28 AM
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This is having your cake and eating it too, though. You can't also want or even demand the supplementary income provided by his labor on the rental but then also lament that he doesn't spend enough time with the kids. I've heard speculation this is about womanly "scorekeeping" or "point keeping" where she rationalizes that the labor he does is 'his vanity project' (absurd, because it directly benefits her and the family) and hence she can just not count it on her internal relationship ledger. Lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 11:59 PM
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every self-sacrificial occupation is near universally male.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 11:56 PM
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what's so ironic and hypocritical from women regarding inkceldom is that women, for themselves, presuppose a right to have unprotected sex with men. If sex is not a right or vital human need, outright banning of abortion and contraception should not bother them. In order not to have unwanted consequences, just 'don't have sex lol'
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 11:54 PM
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"Even so many of the posts they make, are our criticisms of them, turned back on us. Men live rent free in their heads. All they talk about is interpersonal relationships and drama. And they disagree with us analyzing any of that." This is what I call "no Uism". Examples include- men only swipe on elite Stacies, and men are not abstract thinkers. It's just RP points on women flipped around against men even when it really makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 11:08 PM
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millions of men follow the Billy Graham rule religiously (pun intended). This is driven by a form of fear.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:57 PM
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Impossible. There were no women on the internet in the old days 🧐
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:55 PM
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you are right, my bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:53 PM
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"Which is why the real problem IMO is not that they truly believe that women are morally infallible (most of them probably know deep down that can't be true), but that due to that same in-group bias they still feel the need to convince public discourse that women do in fact have the moral high ground and thus they're more justified in their actions." Fair point here. They may not believe Woman are morally infallible but have to present that front to the outgroup and broader society.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:52 PM
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Funny you bring up the Plantagenets. Their matriarch was Matilda, and the offer by English nobles to crown her Kings was rescinded on account of her brutality. This during a war where a chronicler described "God and his Angels stood silent"- even in this she stood out for her brutality. admittedly Isabella is not the best example to lead with. On the flip side, with William and Mary, they rekt the Irish but it's only associated with him, not her, despite the fact that they were co-monarchs. Afte…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:45 PM
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well you presumably did not become terminally online until adulthood. I don't think the younger gen raised with this constant envelope pushing is going to be able to segment what they are constantly bombarded with as "it's a joke lol" And i'm consistent here, the Nick Fuentes type guys all got their beliefs by being memed at for years. I just think it's very naive to think these deranged jokes and memes do not influence people IRL
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 11:09 AM
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yep I could take her argument more seriously if it was not a one-way street (like so many feminist beliefs).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 11:00 AM
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We live in a fallen world
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:58 AM
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"that said your conclusion about women in power is hillarious... specially if you think about women who had power in the past and how they acted/behaved... i think it does not matter much if a progressive man or conservative woman is in power as president regarding which values they will push compared to their counterpart..." One recent female leader who showed a degree of female in-group preference was Margaret Thatcher- where in her early general elections, more women voted for her than men. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:56 AM
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Are saying that "The Law is Not Absolute" to mean that the law is not taking into account the moral justifiability of some crime ?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:26 AM
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But what nonsense is being mocked? I can maybe see the "Women's Rights and Women's Wrongs" quote being humorous but I really do not see what exactly is being humorous or mocked in "Not all Men, but Always a Man"; "Man vs. Bear" and "Kill all Men". Essentially this post-ironic humor, where like Fuentes, these feminists blur the lines between comedy and reality to push misandry, IMO. I doubt you are Gen Z (it seems you are Gen X) and you do not have exposure to the "post ironic" model of overton w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:24 AM
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Ok but sometimes jokes and humor reveal one's true, hidden beliefs ? I mean Nick Fuentes is 99% irony and jokes but no one is going to deny he doesn't hate Juze and Women. Andrea Dworkin's advocacy of Male genocide was indeed probably a parody of Jonathan Swift but she also did harbor deeply misandrist views.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:15 AM
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Women have higher in-group preferences than men, and women sovereigns are more likely to wage war than men. Gender differences in automatic in-group bias: why do women like women more than men like men? - PubMed Throughout history, queens were more likely to wage war than kings To be charitable, I'm not so much concerned with top executives and sovereigns. They are quite far removed from the experience of the average man or woman they are basically androgynous... But I am concerned about lower-l…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:12 AM
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"Honestly, I agree much more with Interesting - could you elaborate here? This is personally my major objection to feminism. While accusing anti-feminists of straw-manning patriarchy, pop-feminists then take the position that "patriarchy means Women as a collective or individual can never do wrong or hurt men lol". They really do not acquit themselves at all. As far as the rest, it is fair and you have done a good job arguing my post is a bit of a hyperbole. But again, I'd just reiterate that th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:02 AM
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Schizo-post. Note you also accused my #1 detractor here of also being AI. Women tend to have more mystical/ schizo tendencies than men so it checks out. Anyone who writes at a level above their brutish Chad hookup is "spiritually" an AI/NPC, regardless of actual usage of AI tools..
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:45 AM
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I am going to be good and delete any comments I made to top level posts which lashed out at these low-tier AI accusations.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:42 AM
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While it is true my post is dependent on social media content from Women, I have always found it to be an unjustified presumption that social media has no bearing on real life (?). Again , I see consistent hand wringing over misogynist posts having these dramatic societal consquences on Women, but somehow men cannot be afraid and distrustful of Women for social media which reduces any situation, regardless of evidence down to 'man bad, woman good' .
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:37 AM
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Not an argument. Evidenceless accusation. Glad to see this is the level Blue Pill Feminists on here have sunk to.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:30 AM
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"I do think men are more violent and prone to crime. It’s a combination, imo, of testosterone and being bigger in size. In an extreme example, it’s like having someone with aggression drugs and a weapon - feels logical that they would commit more violent crime statistically. But, that doesn’t make it ok. We’re not apes, and we hold ourselves responsible for the impact of our actions." Agreed, but the issue I have is women do not as a whole hold them responsible for their actions due to off the c…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:28 AM
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Anyone, such as yourself, who writes above a slop level is considered AI.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:16 AM
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low tier non argument. Bolding header sections =/= AI. Present an argument or counterclaim or go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:15 AM
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"I see that no one has replied to this one in 3 hours .-. which erm I find it rare on this sub 😹" Mods were out touching grass for 2.5 hours. This just went public 30 minutes ago 🙂 "I think feminism is not a single unified ideology. There are many strands of feminism that disagree with each other on many issues, and even today feminists don't always agree on topics of prostitution, pornography, transgender inclusivity, marriage, and how feminism should engage with men and men's issues." I agree …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:12 AM
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Nothing in those links contradicts anything I said. Trump cut Federal funding for abortion and abortifacient drugs. So what? Women are not forced to bare children they do not want. They have multiple offramps from prior to having sex to well into pregnancy. If they do bare a child, the father is on the hook for 18 years and at her whim is ruthlessly pursued for it. Still W8ing on where senile boomer Trump advocates the radical Inkcel policy of repealing the 19th (which he does not have the power…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:44 AM
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"Not that hard to get cash in hand jobs here, most local pubs here are cash in hand, small restaurants are also cash in hand. If you work as on a building site and know the owner, can get paid cash in hand, work for family, can get paid cash in hand. Same with working in garages. Alternatively they can put you down as working minimum wage and then give you big bonuses instead which then don’t get put through the same which drives your maintenance payments down. If you go on benefits, the mainten…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:39 AM
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"😂 you lot voted in Donald bloody Trump. What are you even talking about. You have how many states making it illegal for women to access abortions? There were literal conversations about how your president was going to remove the right to vote from women, i.e household voting, which is just code for only the man of the house can vote." Feminist slop and hysteria. Find me one instance where Fat Blumpf or Jay Dee Vance advocate repealing the 19th amendment (from them or their associates, not 8 deg…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:32 AM
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This is absolutely not the case in the United States, objectively, per State Codes. One cannot even get COMPTIA certs if they owe back child support lol. I also dispute the premise that just 'get a cash job lol' is easy. That alone disincentives and penalizes deadbeat dad-ness, as you lock yourself out of most jobs and into the type of grueling jobs illegal immigrants work. You also have the NHS. In the U.S., working a cash job entails lack of health insurance. Any deadbeat dad is a deadbeat if …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:21 AM
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Note to all: All of these things stated here are highly unlikely to be true. It is virtually impossible for these things to be true. You think wage garnishing, ordered with the authority of States (not locales) suddenly ceases if one moves counties? It's not a major life interruption to not have direct deposit and have to be paid in cash? "There is no penalty for dads that walk away, they just get on with their lives." Search State Codes. This is objectively false. I know a guy when starting a n…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:14 AM
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Good point. On a related note, I have long suspected so much of the consternation and hubbub over husbands not doing their fair share of housework is wives solipsistically disregarding the default assumption and obligation of men to do outdoor housework and small repairs. The outdoor segment is not in their immediate sensory awareness, and hence they do not count it. Anecdotally I have known a woman lamenting her husband's lack of involvement in childcare, despite the fact her husband (a tradesm…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:05 AM
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that's because regardless of the "just so" stories told by women here, fathers of young children are dramatically more likely to be working full time than mothers of young children. This is just an objective fact. A father gets kudos doing these things in part because he is doing them in addition to having to work more hours than the mother at a job. It’s the same with accidental pregnancies, if the guy walks away, society’s response is “she should have known he wasn’t ready and made sure it was…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:58 AM
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Yep. They wield the Moral Capital they hold as a crude weapon, where they will circle the wagons for any women abusing their social status to harm Men and Boys. incentives for Men and Boys to buy into this worldview are evaporating rapidly and hence WAW will be battered badly soon. Not saying there will be an inkcel revolution, but a lot of anti Woman "FAFO" type catharsis crash-outs in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 10:33 PM
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this is "Platonic form" feminism. On the ground, in the material world, "Women are people" in feminist speak means "women are morally infallible people".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 10:30 PM
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Yep, inkcels are less violent per capita than sexually active men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 10:26 PM
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"First one may be true to the title, rest are not specifically bad or anti-social actions towards men as a whole." Why? These are selfish acts, undertaken by women knowing the cost to the men and boys. They are quite frequent too. "As evidence of misandry, most of this unfortunately means nothing." I never said his was misandrist. I said it was just mistreatment. This mistreatment should justify misogyny (if male mistreatment of women justifies misandry)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:14 AM
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Good point. Men being 90% of the violent criminals is still consistent with men on average being more benevolent and less selfish than women because the male criminals are a tiny % of the male population. Particularly when men have a wider range of intelligence and wider range of impulse control, this makes perfect sense. It's like taking the fact that 140+ IQ people are overwhelmingly Male and saying women are dumb and lower intellect than men on average. This is the same fallacy they use.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:54 AM
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"Geez there's nothing like your morning coffee and finding out I am responsible for the lynchings of males in the past. Where is that article about young men using moral outrage to try and win points? You are just so emotional and unrealistic. Can I suggest a lie down so you can return your equilibrium to normal. You might be able to come down from your pedestal later if you do" 1st wave feminist advocacy for lynching of Black men, explicitly on the grounds of protecting women from sexual violen…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:25 AM
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The 1st female, United States senator, a wealthy planter's wife who was the foremost celebrity suffragette after the death of Anthony and Stanton, advocated 10 fold increases in lynching in the 1890s. Her rationale was the protection of woen from sexual violence. Rebecca Latimer Felton - New Georgia Encyclopedia Black advocate feminist Ida wells said most of the feminist movement- particularly the Women's Christan's Temperance Union (which had the largest pop-level following of any 1st wave femi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:12 AM
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"I have no problems with judges judging criminals during sentencing. They have to figure out if they are likely to reoffend. I would be light with first or 2nd time offenders but if I had someone with a list I would be using all the information I knew to judge them." If you are consistent, you'd say People of Color should get longer sentences solely by virtue of being People of Color, because they are more likely to recidivize ('ree not like that'). You advocate outright racial and gender discri…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:07 AM
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Collective guilt is expressly against the intent of the United States' founding, the teaching of every major monotheistic religion, and is explicitly illegal to take into account during sentencing under the 14th amendment. Most women here ragepill at any statement "women do x" with the response of "not all women". When you fail to grant men these basic dignities that you then demand for yourselves, it is an untenable situation. A MRM / RP backlash in the youth is brewing over this sort of thing.…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 01:56 AM
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Ok but judging off Norway where the maximum sentence for any crime is 21 years (they had to extend it in a notable case of terrorism)- I suspect the sentencing ranges for Finland are also quite lower than U.S. I think the better treatment in prison and shorter sentences, in practice go hand -in- hand. Can't really see how it would work with U.S. sentencing ranges- the world would just be too different from when you went in and you could not reintegrate.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 01:48 AM
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Ok? As stated above, the FBI has been instructed by Presidents to fabricate data in the past, and a movement to Abolish Women's Prisons has significant lobbying influence in Washington, if we take the FBI's word at face value: Women violent recidivism- 16% Men violent- 30% Women non-violent- 39%+ (some may have done both types) (total 55%) Men non-violent- 36%+ (some may have done both types) (Total 66%) What you don't understand is you made this astonishgly sweeping woman goodism claim. There i…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 01:37 AM
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The trend for women committing crimes is going up and they should go to prison just like men. However, if I was a judge I would be less likely to think that a woman will be violent and this would affect my sentencing. There is also about a 10% difference in women being likely to reoffend. There are just as rigorous of studies showing 0 recidivism difference also. It is disputed. Higher sentences often increase recidivism to begin with so the whole premise is flawed This is also an egregious viol…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 01:29 AM
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if a woman defendant for murder provides reasonable evidence of self-defense, she is acquitted. How do you think our criminal justice system works? Someone claims and has evidence of self-defense and just got locked up anyway? As was shown to you on the other thread, full 31% of women who claim self defense are acquitted. This is an abnormally high number of acquittals. The women locked up, despite WAW effect, sympathy for them as weaker than men, women officials and jurors in-group preference S…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 01:24 AM
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Women are acquitted a full 31% of the time of murder when they claim self-defense from DV, as opposed to 6% of men. Conveniently she leaves this out. There is no evidence all these poor wimmin are just not given credit for acting in self defense. https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1v0clin/comment/oyefnc7/?context=3
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 01:21 AM
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This is an arbitrary standard. In any other scenario, such as man attacking (initiating) on a woman, or a man attacking another man, or a woman attacking another woman, you would not say the self-defense responder is equally guilty to the initiator lol. If a woman initiates domestic violence against her husband, he does absolutely nothing wrong in responding defensively and in-kind to her. Tired of post-hoc feminist morality made up on the fly to absolve women of unique accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 01:10 AM
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OI'm not sure what an opinion piece from a politician in another country has to do with this discussion about current rates of recidivism. But I completely agree that if we keep the topic in the US, the prisons are too punitive rather than for rehabilitation. It is a studied fact that rehabilitation focused prisons have far lower recidivism rates Ok, so would you agree longer sentences are punitive (generally, certainly in the U.S. at least)? Men receive those longer punitive sentences (sentenci…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 11:53 PM
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State of Washington though. Not limited to 5 years to tailor the data to a result the Feds want. Women’s prisons have served their time. They should be abolished | Eva Wiseman | The Guardian Beyond System Solutions: Indigenous Motherhoods and Canadian Prison Abolition | Canadian Bar Association The Howard League | Our one-size-fits-all approach to prison is failing women and girls
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 11:44 PM
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The driving point has been debunked innumerable times. Men drive 62% of miles yet cause 58% of accidents. Female on female accidents are also highly disproportionate.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 11:43 PM
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Sorry I do not trust DOJ/FBI funded studies influenced by the Female Prison abolition movement under Obama and Biden. This likely was serving as trial balloon to eventually promote the abolition of women' prisons as advocated by Western European politicians. Long-Term Recidivism: Race and Sex Differences in Washington Prison Population's Return to Prison - State of Washington finds long term (not arbitrarily limited to 5 years)- women and men are just as likely to recidivize and in some years/ r…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 11:27 PM
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State of Washington disagrees. Long-Term Recidivism: Race and Sex Differences in Washington Prison Population's Return to Prison. This is long-term and not arbitrarily limited to 5 years. Male and female recidivism rates are proportional to prison population (it alternates back and forth, typically even but notably in 2021 and 2022 females were more likely to recidivism). This is what I once saw here from a woman not realizing the study does not show what she thought it showed. Also, Western pol…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 11:25 PM
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Not sure why you're so smug when 55% of women recidivizing debunks your point that the women were forced into violence in prison and are actually non-violent ideal citizens lol: When they’re in prison women adapt to their surroundings to survive. Maybe some do violence for self-protection. Once she’ out all that other stuff might as well been an alternative personality. Women may have some PTSD but it won’t impact her life to where she can’t be part of an active community again. Working hard to …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 11:03 PM
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The study references "Initiating Intimate Partner Violence (IPV)"- to consider verbally berating someone or nagging someone as Initiating IPV would be an extremely strange and idiosyncratic definition. There is absolutely no evidence from this to suggest Women are initiating non-violently and the men are escalating and perpetuating. Respectfully, smacks of 'man bad woman goodism' as the lense / axiom by which you filter a study that threatens your worldview.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:34 PM
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what? Zastale said if Women had the same strength and power as men they'd be more violent than men. You asked how he could know that, and I said when in strength- parity relationships (lesbians and gays)- women were more violent. Overall criminology about who commits crime are not relevant because we are discussing a hypothetical. In the real world women are "outgunned" and do not have strength parity with Men and most boys even. I am saying the lesbian/gay DV is the best indicator we have of wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:08 PM
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Ok but that's not relevant to whether or not men receive longer sentences for the same crimes w/same factors as women. Being part of a demo that does 90% of violent crime =/= an aggravating factor. 14th amendment. Most of the world does not hold to crude collective guilt enforcement. "Fathers may not be put to death for the sons, nor shall sons be put to death for their fathers. Every man shall be put to death for his own sin."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 09:56 PM
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It was statistically significant though. And couldn't i also say the lesbians don't do as much damage to each other therefore the cops do not log a primary aggressor / log the incident? this is the problem with underdetermination of data.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 09:52 PM
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Among first time offenders men are not more likely to reoffend. Comparing Gender Across Risk and Recidivism in Nonviolent Offenders: Women & Criminal Justice: Vol 23, No 2 Women here get confused because the total # of male recidivists is higher, but that's because more men go to prison in general. To draw from that a convicted man is more likely to be reoffend than a convicted woman is actually formal logical fallacy- Base rate fallacy - Wikipedia
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 09:47 PM
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Here is a study that looks at factors that seem to cover those examples The Offense-Specific Nature of Gender and Familial Responsibility in United States Federal Sentencing, 2010–2016 - Bryan Holmes, Christopher D’Amato, Stephen T. Holmes, 2022 NOTE: it is impossible to control for every exact variable of every crime in these studies. No one has that ability. So to just constantly punt to 'what about this other aggravating factor that I assert (without evidence) that men do worse' at a certain …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 09:39 PM
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I don't have time to get into autistic detail right now but yes it was lifetime DV. I recall adjusted for lesbian women beaten by previous male partners, the % of lesbians victimized by female partners was 29% (not the 41% commonly reported). This was lower but not statistically significantlly different from 35% of straight women claiming to have been victimized male partners. But iirc it was indisputably higher than gay men's DV rates. and that's what my comment hinges on. When women do have a …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 09:26 PM
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Lesbian domestic violence stats vs. gay domestic violence stats, mostly. When men face the real threat of retaliation from someone of equal strength (their gay partner) they are highly restrained. When women for once have a strength parity with their partner (lesbian)- they are more abusive. I also hear <10 years of age physical abuse of children (the idea being women have a major strength advantage over the child) is majority women but they may be because women are the ones rearing those childr…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 09:16 PM
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"Ok I am done. You have no good faith…you don’t have your own thoughts or opinions because you just vomit up other peoples so I don’t know why I keep wasting my time." How exactly is this bad faith? He made a claim, presented a video demonstrating it. You wanna blame feminists and women for every problem in the world while they have zero percent of the power? Women are significant percentages (20%+, in some cases near half) of Western executives/ legislators/ judges, of CEOs and millionaires, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 11:40 AM
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identifying an *entailment* of a commonly held belief is not a strawman. There also is an air of 'I don't hold these beliefs, therefore no women do!' in this type of response. The person you are responding to in an earlier comment did many of things in the post 'what about the violent crime done to women !1!' (deflecting from the female on male mistreatment, deflecting back to physical harm, because as I stated towards the end, she probably cannot comprehend any other values other than care/phys…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 11:21 AM
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I could be biased on in an echo chamber but the "one cope I allow myself" is that the Women Are Wonderful effect has peaked in its hold over people and will begin to wane substantially among most normie people. This constant expansion of definitions (I saw some women here unironically claiming that glazing and simping for a woman to get in her pants is coercion and grape- while then denying that women who pretend to be attracted to their husbands for financial reasons of convenience are also coe…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 11:09 AM
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"the human brain is very bad at long term gradual consequences. That’s why people are terrified of plane crashes but not global warming. We don’t have that primal fear. In that sense men tend to commit more violent crime that results in physical injury. That tends to create more revulsion in men and women. Think why CEOs that cut healthcare that causes thousands of deaths aren’t seen as serial killers while the idea of Ted bundy strikes fear in women. Again convoluted long chain that might resul…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:57 AM
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Shoot, I should've included that. Yes, that literally is exactly proof of what I am describing. "Always a man"= 0% of the time it's a woman doing these bad behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 05:42 PM
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Ah ok. She is saying the men get 2-6 years for spousal abuse, but not for murder of their wives. My mistake. She also says this sentence should be higher, more akin to women convicted of killing abusive husbands (presumably sympathetic vigilante types). But this still not evidence "the system is on men's side". Murder is an extreme anti-social act more than punching or beating a person. This is the principle in the law, it's not pro-male bias. Men are the majority of people in prison for murder,…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 05:31 PM
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It's for the same work. It's like a study if they want to detect racial bias they submit applications with common White names and common Black names with the same resume/ experience and see who gets more hits. Obviously you need to conduct it over multiple teachers but once a large enough sample is obtained, if you see Billy receives lower marks than Sally on average for the same work (same answer, in math the same steps to get there, etc)- it show the teachers are biased in giving partial credi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 02:13 PM
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"I followed your link and the emphasis is on mocking the mothers. What they are doing is blaming women for the behaviour of adult men." Yes, but there are two caveats. The boys are also mocked. And they heavily emphasize how the primary victims of this are not the boys, but their future wives and girlfriends. Watch from about 8:30 to 9:30. The first thing brought up after explaining the phenomena is "boys raised by boy moms become lazy husbands 1!1!11!" and examples of basically how lame and bet…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 02:08 PM
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"Being harmed or more accurately described as feeling slighted in the examples you described, is still not misandry though More importantly, acting like you’re feeling slighted is some national emergency is actually th issue Your mother divorcing your father bc she doesn’t want to be married to him is not misandry against you. Even if it affects you" I did not describe these things as misandry. It is just women doing bad things to men they supposedly care about. Based on major impacts to the boy…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:27 PM
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I think you missed the point regarding single motherhood. I am not saying the ex-husbands are primarily the harmed ones (though I did add a note on husbands divorced over their workplace injuries)- the main point is *the sons* raised in broken homes whose life outcomes are wrecked by their mothers over their mother's frivolous resentments of their fathers. I see women here, claiming to be teachers, citing boys around age 15 becoming red pill. At that age, they can't be redpill because they are i…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:59 AM
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There already is a rule on that matter. Not trying to glaze myself, but, if a post is well-structured and well - researched it does not mean it is AI. The contents and thesis of my post are too obscure to be AI anyway. Provide a counterargument or counterclaim.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:52 AM
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"Yeah, it's not new to women. As a feminist what i hear most about is emotionally incestuous relationships between "boy moms" and their sons" Yes, and it seen as a way to shame the boys as bad adult partners. weirdo boy moms are raising inept mama's boys (literally the first result on youtube). This is seen primarily as about defective men and how they are not good partners in adulthood. So again, mother does a terrible job and is emotionally manipulative to her son, let's mock the son. "Women g…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:49 AM
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Fair. But I would say it's just occasional enough to warrant a post here. Now, funny you bring this up because another frequent post I see is how similarly "wacko" /fringe misogyny on the internet hurts some women's fee-fees enough that it justifies them to be misandrists. So, I would hope any feminist agreeing with you is consistent on this front and disregards Misogyny like water off a duck's back- seeing it as fringe, irrelevant, and algorithm driven rage bait.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:33 AM
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Do you not see the constant claims that Misandry is justified because men do bad things to women, but Misogyny is not justified? I have seen it reiterated by high profile users that Misogyny is driven solely by Inceldom, while Misandry is a reasonable response to male behavior. Those comments were highly upvoted. Maybe said women will not exactly articulate 'Women are incapable of doing bad things' in those words, but it is highly highly implicit in common rhetoric here. If Misandry is justified…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:12 AM
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You are correct and you have hit on a very important point here. Redpill is about trying to understand 'female nature' and 'female lizard brain' if you will. In 'caveman times', good physical genetics, strength, archetypal chad features were pretty much 100% aligned with their ability to make provision. To the original and classic Red Pill, it was acknowledged women's raw attraction haven't caught up to match men who currently do well financially now (beta nerds). Indeed the Beta Buxx phenomena …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:02 AM
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Brother, this is something feminists commonly do. They redefine and distort definitions to gas up how many women are victimized by men. When they get the retort of 'hey, but many behaviors of women towards men fall under your broadened definition too' they just say 'nuh uh' or retreat back to the narrow definition. One you start to notice this you see it is done all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 10:51 PM
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Many women are not attracted to their husbands- they became so over time. For matters of convenience and resources will lie and say that they find him attractive. If they hadn't lied, then he would not have consented or initiated. Therefore she raped him. By your rules, this is the case. Women sometimes lie. Are you really going to claim that no woman ever lies before sleeping with a guy? Does this idea of "coercion" apply elsewhere? If a car salesman embellishes a car's feature to me, was I "co…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 10:36 PM
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I would be very interested to learn the ages of those men. I certainly see more of that sort of thing on Local News Channels on YouTube (older men). I suspect, as discussed in the OP's post, those guys are from the generation in the 1980s that answered surveys that men enjoyed grape. Younger men, on other platforms, do not celebrate as you are saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 10:26 PM
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If we want to live in a guilty until proven innocent society we have to ask -why arbitrarily is should this be the case or only one type of crime (and even within that crime, 1 demographic of accuser) Also, this may be too spicy for this sub. there no casual link between the non r@pist men merely existing, and the actions of r@pist men. With basic darwinian evolution An argument can be made that women's s exual preferences reward the aggressive men, who father future generations of aggressive me…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/03/26 05:29 PM
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Yes, I think to say explicitly "man killing woman" is an aggravating factor as opposed to "woman killing man" being mitigating, is a blatant violation of the 14th amendment and related statutes (particularly as courts have taken an extremely expansive reading of it for decades). So I think the gender of the accused legally cannot be taken into account (although in practice it is). I am not sure if the gender of the victim can be considered
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/03/26 05:18 PM
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Interesting...can you think of any other examples other than Strauss Kahn? My understanding is the French left has gotten weaker and weaker since Mitterand left office in 1995. I believe there were also document leaks in the UK that labour PM Harold Wilson's unexpected resignation in 1976 was because he was banging a spy/was caught up in a honey pot and was being blackmailed for it
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/03/26 05:11 PM
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The point about "unfalsifiability" is rich. You go on to claim that the outcomes of systems do not reflect the organization of the system. Does that not make assessing the "organization of the system" near impossible (aka unassesable and unfalsifiable), by definiton, as you dismiss its effects as non-indicative? The only other way to assess a system is to look at the actual criteria it used to make decisions, its 1st principles. These are explicit laws/rules, etc. You would have to show these ar…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/03/26 11:15 PM
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Indeed, and these things are offended codified into law and the laws enforced in our parents’ lifetime (c onscription) - contrast this to many feminist claims which are nebulous and vibes based.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/25 12:27 AM
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But overall, I would caution and say ‘just because a writing existed doesn’t mean that it was widely accepted’. It was a sentiment many women had. The issue came when most women and men just accept it presuppositionally and subconsciously. Someone 500 years from now could dig up the Z izians manifesto and get a completely wrong idea of modern views on technology !
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/25 10:31 PM
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Thank you for this comment. I would note, that 1589 England was in some ways a similar time to the 1800s, in that it was sort of a Proto-Industrial revolution due to land enclosures. Obviously the women who wrote this could read and write. However, the whole ‘let’s scapegoat working men for these material forces’ seems at play. Secondly, from an orthodox Christian perspective, that is ludicrous. So you see a correspondence with the Church of England becoming hard Protestant during the wars with …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/25 10:29 PM
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They come up with their talking points by asking ‘What if we placed Julius Evola in Idiocracy, what would he say?’
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/25 03:07 PM
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What’s insane is there’s no lip service to basic consistency. None whatsoever. You must be in a certain demographic to give advice to that demographic. Except when women advise men, that doesn’t count. Because they said so. Minorities being drafted disproportionality into Vietnam is a sign of oppression. Men being drafted is not. Because they said so. Earnings gap where men earn more than woman, bad. Women earning more than men among the younger gen, good. This just complete and utter arbitrarin…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/04/25 07:20 PM
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Well, I would argue the view women are incompetent or whatever is a prejudice against their intellect. Sure, plenty of cultures believe stuff like that. But in a way, it spares them from hardship. However, I think the whole ‘innate moral inferiority’ thing is less common. A Hadith says more women are in hell than men. The extent to which that permeates Islamic presuppositions or is rationalized away, I’m not sure. I know John Knox, the Protestant Reformer, argued for women’s moral inferiority in…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/04/25 05:54 PM
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Some of the leading women supposedly were mad they had (multiple) husbands who died of alcoholism. If your husbands keep drinking themselves to death, maybe you are the common denominator 😂
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/04/25 05:44 PM
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