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SpaceWhiskey/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 03:40 AM
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Question for WomenSpaceWhiskey/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 04:24 PM
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DiscussionSpaceWhiskey/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 08:01 PM
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Ah, so a gimmicky porn thing, got it. Never used one, I imagine most regular non-porn actors don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 02:13 PM
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Overrated, great, and what is your definition of a sex machine?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 01:04 AM
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They're not. Plenty of guys do fine who watch porn and play video games. Lack of dating success usually involves lots of other factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 12:59 AM
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🤷‍♀️ Personally I think this is a weird question in the first place, asking women here what other, hypothetical men get out of a specific kind of relationship. And those men don't hang out in places like this so really, what's the point of the conversation even lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 10:55 PM
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Something, clearly, if he's sticking around. I know the people who spend too much time here don't like to believe it, but there are men in the world who genuinely enjoy women's company even when sex isn't involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 10:25 PM
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I don't think this is gendered behavior and I see way more "pick me" guys out there than women. "Alpha" males are essential "I'm not like other guys!" guys. I don't enjoy hanging out with insecure/petty people in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 10:14 PM
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I think "Sigma males" are a marketing scam now that these dudes aren't able to make as much money on PUA/RP/"Alpha" content. It's the new shiny object to dangle in front of guys who actually need therapy but would rather pay for a quick fix scam.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 10:07 PM
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I'm going to regret asking this, but what are 'girl inches'?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 10:04 PM
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Lol like dudes don't do the exact same thing. Makes me wish I'd collected screenshots over the years from all the times I've seen guys say "I like all kinds of women, not just the conventionally attractive ones!" and it's just a bunch of young, skinny white girls with different hair colors lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 10:01 PM
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Did a bunch of girls from your HS go to the same college as you, or is this a completely different set of women? Because if it's that, this likely isn't some kind of broader statement about women but rather localized differences and simply the differences between one human being and another. For me personally, I became much more outgoing and friendly in college vs high school as I was working out my anxiety issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 01:12 AM
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I'm not failing to grasp anything lol, this is not my first rodeo having this conversation. You are still insisting you can just declare a man 7/10 when that man is struggling to find sexual partners you consider to be more-than-average attractive, like he allegedly is. I think men in online communities are in the habit of declaring themselves more-than-average attractive when they actually aren't. It's also not an argument at all to post a picture of a literal celebrity and say that he could on…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 08:44 PM
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I'm finding it hard to believe you think men who look like famous actors are having trouble getting laid. I think lots of guys who are "7/10" are being very generous with their assessments of themselves and also probably fail to understand how big a part non-physical features play as well, like personality and charm.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 08:38 PM
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But if women aren't agreeing with that and sleeping with him, sounds like you're wrong in your assessment of him.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 08:31 PM
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No, I don't think you are comprehending what I'm saying. Who decides this man is a 7/10?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 08:26 PM
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If someone is "objectively" a 7/10 and consistently only hooks up with 3/10s, how in any way are they a 7/10? This is so funny to me, the way people will just look in the mirror and rate themselves, or rely on the ratings of other people who aren't sexually attracted to them, as if that's how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 06:12 PM
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I need to trust someone to have sex with them. I need to feel safe letting them do potentially very harmful, painful things to my body and putting myself in that vulnerable position. So no, I'm not going to have sex with just any random dude who gets a boner for me if I don't think I can trust him not to damage my body and respect my boundaries, and that has nothing to do with physical attractiveness. Or at least physical attractiveness is maybe much lower on the list than men would like to beli…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 06:22 PM
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Yep! Always done it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 06:08 PM
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Here, just not commenting lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 11:57 PM
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Uh that's non-consensual? What's right about forcing someone into sexting they might not want?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 11:56 PM
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I very pro-sexting honestly, so long as it's consensual and not one person forcing it on the other. I've struggled with anxiety throughout my life, so being able to literally spell out what's turning me on or what I like is really useful and fun. I think it makes sense that for some people, they get their satisfaction through a sexting interaction and that wraps up their interest. This obviously happens IRL as well. I've actually experienced this myself, I'll have some sexy chatting with someone…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 08:24 PM
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Sooo many things only work in porn and aren't actually fun in real life at all, random hook-up sex being one of them. Like you I can't bring myself to truly relax and enjoy sex unless I like and trust someone. As a fantasy however, the idea of spontaneous sex with a stranger is very hot to me, as are lots of other things I don't actually want to do for real. The human mind is weird that way lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 05:13 PM
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Arguments happen no matter what on a long enough time frame. And once they inevitably start happening with a FWB I'm out, because if they're not willing to take that next emotional step with me my desire to fuck them shrivels up and disappears.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 04:34 PM
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Falling in love. Realizing just how much you care about the other person and being deeply moved by that. Being content not having sex sometimes, being satisfied by their company alone and feeling whole. Being there for each other when things aren't fun and light-hearted and sexy and knowing that someone has your back no matter what. Forming a trust stronger than family, because you chose and build it yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 04:03 PM
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Ehhhh the older I get the less of my life I want searchable online. When I was in my 20s yes, it was very important to me that my relationship be "online", I wanted things to be "Facebook official", which should tell you alone how long ago that was. These days though I prefer as little to be public as possible. I've been with the same guy for almost 10 years and there's barely any pictures of us together online, I frankly don't think it's anyone's business but ours and he feels the same way. We …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 03:58 PM
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The stupid ones, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 03:42 PM
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Honestly this continues to frustrate me. I have seen countless posts on the internet over the years from (mostly) men who put on their best behavior for their prospective partners and drop more and more of it as time goes on. My favorite example of this is when men refuse to clean up after themselves in their living space to the annoyance of their partners, then claim that they simply don't care as much as their female partners. But when pressed they'll admit that they made quite the effort to k…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 03:39 PM
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Because it's not the same thing to other people. You clearly feel that way, so I imagine that it's hard for you to see things from other people's perspective, but plenty of people see a stark different between a FWB and an LTR and they consider it to be a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 03:35 PM
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Sounds like you just don't like commitment. Personally I think it's sweet when my partner you know, cares about me. I don't see emotions and seriousness as something a partner has to "deal" with. For me the entire point of a relationship is going deeper than just the sex/fun surface level.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 03:32 PM
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I might try a little harder at first but if he clearly isn't interested, I move on with my damn life and respect his autonomy lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 03:27 PM
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I guess just being intellectually curious? I don't know, there isn't some kind of perfect formula that anyone of any gender can just check all the boxes on and suddenly become "dating material", especially to a particular person. This sort of question is honestly why I've started to drift away from this place for a while, human interaction is so nuanced there's almost no point in trying to work out the math for something that is unmathematical.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/20 09:10 PM
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Has it occurred to you that I’m not interested in answering multiple questions?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 10:18 PM
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This one, apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 10:13 PM
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It’s about the degree, like I’ve said several times. I’m not sure what else you want me to say at this point 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 10:01 PM
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Some are. I think this is one of them. It’s being clowned on for other reasons as well though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 09:58 PM
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No. This is why I haven’t responded to one of your posts in like a year, you’re deliberating misreading my comments as usual.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 09:44 PM
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Sure. But the degree to which people who see the commercial can’t afford the item compared to how necessary it is as a product is clearly higher than normal, to the point where a whole cultural conversation has popped up about it. I mean, obviously right? That’s why we’re talking about this lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 09:36 PM
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Yes, as in, I would make that argument. Stop trying to claim I’m saying all advertising is classist, I’m not saying that at all. We’re talking about this one specific commercial, stop trying to spin this off to other topics.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 09:28 PM
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I didn’t say it was discriminatory, I said it was tone deaf because it’s arguably classist. Classist is kind of a mild adjective in my opinion, lots of things are classist, it’s just how the world is currently structured.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 09:24 PM
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Sure. Yet given the sheer number of people who scoffed and laughed at the idea of spending two grand on a stationary bike like it’s just a normal thing to do should tell you that in this specific case the commercial missed the mark. No one’s really mad though, it’s just a dumb commercial all around.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 09:14 PM
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Yes I have. And no it isn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 09:10 PM
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As I said in my comment at the top of this thread, income inequality is at an all time high, and as I said in another comment a little further down, I think it is tone deaf to advertise a multi-thousand dollar luxury item during regular cable. There you go.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 09:03 PM
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Yes, and here I see overlap between them. I think I’ve already explained my position pretty clearly, like I said this is a lukewarm issue for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 08:58 PM
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I don’t actually think it was marketed to a specific class, I’ve seen this ad all over the place and I certainly can’t afford one those things lol. Like I said, I think it’s tone deaf to show a commercial for what is very much a luxury item for a majority of people during just regular old afternoon cable.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 08:54 PM
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Lol right? I think most people would be stoked to have something like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 08:49 PM
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Personally, yes. But I’m not also upset over it, I had a very “meh” reaction to the whole event, I have bigger fish to fry.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 08:44 PM
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Some would argue yes to your first question. I’m not touching the second since it’s unrelated and this post is already off topic enough as it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 08:42 PM
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The outcry I see in my lefty circles has more to do with the classism than the sexism. It’s just a tone deaf ad overall considering the record high income inequality. However I don’t see it as any more tasteless than those Christmas Lexus ads and those run every year. It’s just internet outcry anyway, Twitter has already moved on.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 08:39 PM
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I mean of course they’re saying that, it’s part of the joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 08:39 PM
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You’re welcome to think it isn’t funny. Free speech and all that 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 12:58 AM
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Yes, exactly, it’s a parody of the community that did it first. I sincerely doubt that the women there are actually exploiting dudes for free dinners right and left, but talking about it the way they are is generating a reaction that is frankly funny coming from the crowd that claims women are too emotional and easily triggered. For the record, I do not think anyone should take advantage of anyone. But I appreciate a good satire when I see it. It’s basically performance art, so is y’all’s reacti…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 12:48 AM
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Incel subs and TRP are full of comedy, it’s just not funny to me and most women because the humor is mean spirited and rooted in misogyny. This sub appears to be a very heavy handed satire of that, and to me it’s fucking hilarious. Turnabout is fair play.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 12:35 AM
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Curiosity. Pressure. Low self esteem. An expectation brought on by porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 12:18 AM
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Well sure but I’m talking about it from a woman’s perspective. I’m far more likely to fuck on the first date if I get the impression the guy isn’t going to hold that against me as far as being a relationship prospect, i.e. non-judgey/feminist types.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 12:17 AM
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Because people’s satire detectors seem to be broken. I swear to god I take like one month off from this place and come back to see everyone losing their minds over a joke sub ala The Onion
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 12:07 AM
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Please tell me this is sarcasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 12:05 AM
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Just look at the fucking response in this sub. Each thread has hundreds of comments, they generate a huge engagement. I’ve known the place existed for a couple hours and it is painfully obvious to me it’s a joke/troll performance. And it’s working, holy shit is it working.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 11:53 PM
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It is pure sarcasm, y’all are wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 11:47 PM
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God I hate those names so much 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 11:47 PM
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Nah man, sometimes we don’t like a particular sex act. That’s really all there is to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 11:46 PM
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Oh my god thank you I’m in here reading thread after thread of people who don’t seem to get this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 07:39 PM
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It is a satire subreddit! I took a pillsphere break and feel like the people too deeply embroiled in this corner of the internet have lost the ability to tell parody from sincerity. Everything happening over there is an elaborate prank on the people who can’t see that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 07:31 PM
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I feel like I’m taking crazy pills, can seriously no one else see it’s a joke? Omg, ya’ll 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 07:27 PM
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Oh man I like you
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 07:22 PM
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Because I’m not a teenager anymore and the romance of wanting to be someone’s first time feels like a distant, childish fantasy. First times are awkward. Partners who actually know how to have sex are vastly preferable.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 06:51 PM
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I’m aware, it’s silly haha
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 06:45 PM
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I’ve been taking a bit of a break from the pillsphere and today is my first dip back in. I’m seeing multiple FDS threads and after reading this comment I decided to go check it out. And yeah dude, it’s a comedy sub. There might be some truth to it but it’s dripping with humor and sarcasm. The fact that people are taking it seriously and getting big mad must be very satisfying to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 06:41 PM
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Maybe not you but some definitely do lol. I won’t name names but I’ve seen it in this very sub 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 06:33 PM
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Or any sex act they tried and didn’t like, even if they did it more than once due to low self esteem. “Why couldn’t she do something that made her feel bad about herself with me, it isn’t fair 😩”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 06:29 PM
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The same dudes that want sex by the 3rd date also want the girl to have a low N count or to be a virgin. How ironic. Indeed. Additionally, there are plenty of men who aren’t threatened by sexual history or slut shame, and they do tend to get laid before the third date 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 06:24 PM
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No, I don’t agree, that’s my entire point man 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 04:07 PM
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I am trying so hard to wrap my head around such a zero sum way of thinking. If picking a partner and being faithful is “discriminating” against every other man on earth then sure lol. It’s just such an odd way to look at the world. Also I wasn’t promiscuous in college, that’s kind of insulting. What you’re describing sounds like a movie, not a lived experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 03:59 PM
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I’m in a relationship. I have sex with one person at a time. Don’t you see how silly it is to imply I see other men as worthless? I have friends, co-workers, all sorts of non invisible men who are part of my life. Your way of thinking sounds really sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 03:44 PM
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Dude, I am a woman, don’t you think it’s a little silly that you’re telling me how I think?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 03:32 PM
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I’m talking about me, I don’t go around considering all men useless, what a ridiculous assertion. You are implying women are brimming with disdain and it’s laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 03:27 PM
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As a woman I can assure you I don’t think every man other than my partner is worthless, what a nightmare way to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 03:21 PM
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Lol what? Is this sarcasm?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 03:14 PM
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People don’t want to be lied to, they want reality to somehow magically never hurt their feelings. If you ever tell someone you want brutal honesty and aren’t fully braced to have your feelings hurt you’re only setting yourself up for pain.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 09:47 PM
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Anecdotal. I’ve spent enough time in the service industry to see a variety of behavior from everyone. I’ve had regulars were the men were nightmares just as often as the women. I’ve had men criticize the amount of foam on draft beer. I’ve had men send food back because it doesn’t look like the picture. I’ve had men stop me in the middle of what I’m doing when it’s busy to tell me a stupid joke I don’t have time to listen to. I’ve had men assume I’m incompetent and talk down to me for being a wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 09:44 PM
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The nature of social skills is being able to tell when you’re making other people uncomfortable. So many people claim they want complete honesty all the time but I’ve had men lose their minds at me for turning them down. I’ve had people ask me for my honest opinion about something they made and then get heartbroken when I gave them useful, constructive, non-malicious criticism. People are fucking fragile, and there’s no point in wondering what society would be like if they weren’t, because they …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 09:38 PM
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No it isn’t lol. It’s called having social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 09:24 PM
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It’s been a long time since I had to deal with one in the wild but they were always super annoying. “pickup line blah blah” “I’ve got a boyfriend” “And I have a math test next week, why are we talking things that don’t matter?” 😏 Ughhhhhhh 🙄🙄🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 09:21 PM
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Withholding you inner monologue isn’t the same as lying. Just because I don’t announce every thought that comes into my head about someone doesn’t mean I’m living a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 09:17 PM
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The gut reaction is negative because it now puts the burden on us to deal with this stranger who we’d probably rather not have to deal with who is breaking social norms. I’m a very nice person, I get told that on an almost daily basis, I work in hospitality but it’s still emotional labor, it takes effort to make an awkward conversation not awkward, and sometimes I just don’t feel like now having to read all this dude’s subtle clues to figure out how polite I have to be with turning him down, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 08:45 PM
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Fucking women... is gay... 🧐
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 02:58 AM
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Eh, there’s a few ways this could be interpreted, like someone else said better off to ask her since all anyone can do is speculate. If I were forced to guess it’s a play on the whiny “nice guys finish last” meme that implies women owe guys a chance just for being nice, which is like, baseline human decency. Also any guy who has to insist he’s nice probably isn’t. Genuine niceness speaks for itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 02:56 AM
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A nerdy Vietnamese guy I met through a school’s anime club. I thought he was cute and wonderful but he had low self-esteem and didn’t think very highly of himself. When a second girl showed interest in him he cheated on me 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 04:41 PM
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It’s also why being good at sex matters. Maybe focus on improving your skill instead of wanting better odds your (general your) supposed mediocrity will be less noticeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 01:59 AM
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Fun side note, I saw a post on one of the relationship advice subs recently in which a young woman did exactly what the other poster suggested women do: watch porn and practice with sex toys so that her first time with her boyfriend would be good. Apparently this winner decided that she was suspiciously too good at sex and broke up with her over it 🙃
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 01:51 AM
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Right, and then that relationship doesn’t work out for whatever reason, rinse and repeat and according to some guys any number higher than 0 is apparently a dealbreaker. And god forbid I ever feel like having casual sex. I mean none of this really applies to me anymore since I’m engaged it’s just funny to me all the men who want women to be both amazing at sex and also have low partner counts. There are also lots of positions that you can’t really replicate without another person, even if you wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 01:35 AM
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The only men I’ve encountered who are on edge about false accusations are the “where’s my hug” type, i.e. the men who were/are part of the problem. I’ve always approached the guys I’m interested in though, I don’t think the OP is a good representation of average women considering she posts in RPW, a pretty niche sub for a particular subset of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 01:25 AM
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Yeah but why would I want to get good at sex if I’m not going to have it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 01:21 AM
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Real pee, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 01:17 AM
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I agree. I’ve had guys tell me that makes me an undesirable slut though, can’t win 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 01:15 AM
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Considering the most popular porn genre right now is apparently incest, I would have to say no, lol. I mean, some porn certainly reflects what an arguable majority of women are into. Porn that features seduction, romance. I’m personally a fan of scenes that start with a massage and slowly escalate. But no, the “popular” clips that show up on the main page featuring comically large penises, gaping orafices, ect do not represent the desires of any women I know, and I run in pretty sex positive cir…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 01:14 AM
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I actually burst out loud laughing from reading that. Your view of feminism is laughably inaccurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 01:10 AM
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If only. I’ve seen it happen multiple times.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 12:48 AM
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I’m a progressive, not a liberal. Those are two different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 12:42 AM
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But not at all incompatible with the larger manosphere, some of which absolutely does advocate for trad con stuff. There are also trad con RP dudes in this very sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 02:00 AM
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Don't worry, I do lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 01:58 AM
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It depends on who you ask. The red pill/manosphere is not a hivemind and there are plenty of trad con types in the mix.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 01:46 AM
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I don't really hang out with women who talk about players and "fuccbois", not unironically anyways. I tend to avoid trashiness regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 01:43 AM
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I'm not "using" anyone, I'm genuinely asking about what I see to be a huge contradiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 01:40 AM
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I have an entirely different opinion on where this is going but okay. Also don't write yourself off fam, take care of yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 01:39 AM
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Implying women are "hoes" or being "passed around" is in my opinion shitty and misogynistic, what can I say~
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 01:38 AM
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His type, which I disagree with by the way, is calling for society at large to stop tolerating these asshole men on their tendency to be awful to women and others. Here is an asshole man being called out. This should be what the red pill wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 12:51 AM
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I'm also looking at where things are going but I imagine we have different ideas for what comes next. Ca va.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 12:50 AM
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All I'm pushing for is for people to be thoughtful with their words, which will help them in all aspects of their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 12:33 AM
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Can you give an example of someone who has been deplatformed or whose livelihood has been stripped away who hasn't called for violence or inflicted actual harm? The only example of deplatforming I can think of is Alex Jones, and he absolutely has.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 12:21 AM
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No one is threatening this dude's livelihood or deplatforming him. His post is still up. This is actually free speech in action, people have just as much of a right to respond to him as he does to mouth off.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 12:12 AM
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It stems from Stefan Molyneaux and I see it parroted all over Reddit and elsewhere. That, according to him/them abusive men get ahead in life because women who choose to fuck them and therefore it's women's fault that nice guys finish last. So here is a guy, an athlete, popular and attractive who espouses opinions about women that are problematic. He's being called on that behavior. I don't believe in god but that aside, if you're actually asking for my opinion and not just being snarky, it says…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 12:10 AM
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Well no, the discussion is that there needs to be a line drawn when it comes to tolerating the views of someone who, say, wants to actually kill people who are _____.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 12:03 AM
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Implying women who like to have sex are being "passed around" isn't on par with the concept of "everything".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 11:58 PM
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Yes, did you not read the comments over there? The vast majority of them are to the tune of "come on man, I was rooting for you". Also would you care to respond to the rest of my comment about how calling out shittiness is literally what manosphere men have always said they want women to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 11:58 PM
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Welcome to the paradox of tolerance.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 11:55 PM
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No they don't, and that's not a good faith argument. And the fact that you're lumping me in with this strawman is just... I don't even know. Okay so here's what I don't get. I see in the manosphere all the time that women are responsible for shitty men's behavior for tolerating it. That shitty men get all the women and it isn't fair, these shitty men have shitty views and why oh why do women tolerate it. So the OP in the linked thread is an athlete. He is popular and attractive and this girl was…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 11:52 PM
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That doesn't make it not offensive. People in that thread took offense, as did I.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 11:48 PM
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It's about context. In this case it clearly was.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 11:43 PM
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That is such a big leap I have whiplash lol. Are you seriously suggesting an internet comment to the tune of "do better, I was rooting for you" is on par with the sweeping systemic barbaric acts of history? His use of "hoe" is casual misogyny that should be corrected. I mean hell, this is a group putting a shitty jock in his place like guys on the internet are always asking women to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 11:37 PM
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There's quite a bit to unpack here but it really amuses me how you use the word feminist and liberal interchangeably. I'm a feminist and I'm absolutely not a liberal, though I have a feeling you're using liberal in the colloquial sense, not the actual meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 11:33 PM
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I don't think I would describe the criticism towards him as shaming language, to me it reads as very disappointed. The community was clearly rooting for this guy, in both his posts. The most common comment I'm seeing is "yesyesyesno" type jokes. As in, everything was fine until the casual misogyny came up. I don't personally see it as a double standard to call out someone who is themselves using shaming language. No one is calling the dude unattractive/neckbeardy/basement dwelling, he's an athle…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 11:30 PM
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I guess it all comes down to what you think is worse: having a shitty outlook on sexually active women or calling someone out for having a shitty outlook on sexually active women. Look, maybe this guy doesn't have a shitty outlook on women and was merely expressing what you described in your very charitable interpretation of his words, that he was simply looking for someone who shares his sexual values. That isn't what he said though, he used the word 'hoe' and then doubled down on it after bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 11:04 PM
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I've posted about this in PPD before but I'll say it again. I'm a woman with a high sex drive. Ever since puberty I have been among the horniest of my female friends based on the conversations I've had about sex with them. I've had a higher libido than several of my male partners. There was a time when I believed my sex drive rivaled men's. However, thanks to the men of the internet, I have come to the conclusion that men do have higher drives than women based on the countless stories I've read …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 10:14 PM
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This is interesting but completely irrelevant to human relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 10:03 PM
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No personal attacks.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 09:59 PM
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One specific guy comes to mind, he seems chill and normal on paper, good job, in a band, has mainstream hobbies and interests. However he: Is a stoner even though you’d never guess from his aesthetic and is either always noticeably high or cranky as shit because he is out of weed Has anger issues and is known to throw things/not able to take a joke Has disproportional standards. He isn’t ugly but he expects to date models and does not really bring anything extraordinary to the table Honestly he …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 06:02 AM
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There was a thread on Twitter a year or so back where someone asked people to post their guilty pleasure would-bone celebrities. Almost all the responses from men were gorgeous women who had problematic personalities, like liberal men saying Tomi Lahren. Whereas women were posting alllll sorts of men with funny/charming/intelligent personas who were less than conventionally attractive, like say Danny Devito. It was telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 05:27 AM
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I would never date a man who was stupid enough to get in a physical fight with a stranger short of his life being threatened. Certainly not over a verbal slight. How embarrassing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 05:13 AM
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I don’t think anyone is saying it’s meaningless. The criticism I see is aimed towards the dudes who obsess over it, which is a bit different from just having a preference or opinion. Everyone is allowed to have dealbreakers. I once drastically changed my opinion about a potential partner when I realized they didn’t like The (earlier and actually good episodes of the) Simpsons.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 05:08 AM
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Lol I’ve been hearing men say this for literally 30 years. Some things never change.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 03:22 AM
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It’s fine? 🤷‍♀️ I’m actually not sure I understand the question. If he’s my partner I would hope he’d have a sex drive and sexual desire for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 03:15 AM
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Wanting a woman to relate to after you’ve been sexually harassed as opposed to a male co-worker.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 11:00 PM
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No, I think that’s pretty normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 10:50 PM
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My experience as a woman is the exact opposite, I’d much rather have another woman to relate to than a “strong” man. I’d suspect he had ulterior motives.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 10:42 PM
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If the harassment has already been reported to a supervisor, in my experience it is very unprofessional for another co-worker to intervene. I have had to report male co-workers for sexual harassment and picturing having another male co-worker feel the need to comfort me feels patronizing and uncomfortable. I guess it depends on what you mean by comfort. If being told what happened by the victim, saying “I’m sorry that happened to you, let me know if you need anything” is fine. If she asks for mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 10:29 PM
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I’m very curious what sort of women these folks are picturing in the “I would console a female co-worker who was sexually harassed because I have empathy for women” camp. I have a sneaking suspicion this fictitious harassment victim is attractive and this is more of a saving the damsel in distress fantasy thing than a neutral human empathy thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 10:23 PM
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It turned into it because it’s practically a meme in these parts. In regards to the situation you were actually referring to, I would expect my SO to feel upset that a co-worker was sexually harassed, because sexual harassment is wrong, and I would expect him to back up her claim if i was something he was a witness to. However, I would not expect him to comfort and console her as you’ve suggested elsewhere in this thread. That seems like crossing a boundary. Maybe if she’s freaking out and actua…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 10:12 PM
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What masculine traits are you attracted to most? I enjoy a laid back sort of confidence in men. Not cocky is an asshole way, just self-assured. I’m not particularly fond of gendering traits though since many of the traits I enjoy in men are hardly exclusive to them. Is your partner hyper masculine? No. Have you found yourself drawn to more masculine men throughout your life? I’ve had “more masculine” partners than others but it’s a wavy line, not a crescendo. I’ve also dated women. What do the m…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 10:04 PM
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This largely depends on what “has empathy for” means. Of course I want my SO to have empathy for the opposite sex, for everyone preferably. In general. As in, is polite to them during every day interactions. Knows how to act when someone hurting is in the room. Ect. However, I’ve been in this sub for a few years now and what usually starts these conversations of “women don’t have empathy for men” isn’t women treating strangers with basic civility. It’s women having empathy specifically for guys …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 09:50 PM
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tingles intensifies
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 11:01 PM
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I use them more or less interchangeably. I’m more likely to use cute if I’m also romantically attracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 10:58 PM
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Yeah, exactly. Lots of this 😏and this 😘
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 10:30 PM
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Low key flirting. A lot of it is tone and body language.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 10:14 PM
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I’m sure empathy was a huge part of it. I’ve heard men say what you’re saying before but I also read the regular askreddit threads to the tune of “men, what do you wish women knew blah blah”. And there are always top responses about how men want to feel desirable too. How they want to be caressed and appreciated. Since I started seeing those threads I started paying extra mind to do such things for my partner and it’s been very well received. I think there’s a spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 10:11 PM
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Ah, I see. Well, fair enough. Though this is just a personal anecdote, one of my first boyfriends tried to have sex with me when I wasn’t turned on and he just... couldn’t. He wasn’t trying to rape me, I was actually letting him see for himself that I wasn’t aroused and he was going to have to put in some effort with foreplay. His dick went soft when it wouldn’t go in because my lack of arousal was a huge turn off. I think about that a lot when I read stories about rapists. There are two kinds o…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 10:06 PM
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Some men are rapists, I’m not arguing that. But there are also plenty of men who have zero desire to rape, even if it were allowed. Give men some credit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 10:01 PM
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There’s a gigantic difference between allowing your husband to fuck you even though you’re not really feeling it and that husband physically forcing himself on her. Which of these are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 09:58 PM
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Men don't give a fuck, if rape was not criminal, men would force women into sex You would force a protesting woman to have sex with you against her will if it weren’t against the law?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 09:54 PM
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If you’re putting in the same hours, chores should be even. If one person is earning enough extra to cause resentment, use that noteworthy amount of extra money to hire cleaning services. If the descepency isn’t enough afford that, suck it up and split the chores evenly. Otherwise you’re just keeping score and that never ends well.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 09:29 PM
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A lot. I’ve been attracted to men both taller and shorter than me. From bald to long Viking hair. Scrawny to hefty. My only real deal breaker is very different political views.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 09:21 PM
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Does short hair and piercings signal to you that a woman can’t carry healthy children?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 09:20 PM
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Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 09:18 PM
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In your opinion 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 09:18 PM
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Sure. And yet men fall in love with and marry women who for whatever reason can’t have or simply don’t want children all the time. I’m trying to give men some credit here instead of assuming they’re all single minded sex beasts.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 12:46 AM
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There are so many more reasons why men might be interested in women, I think you’re doing men a disservice by saying it’s all about reproductive viability or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 11:40 PM
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Though I guess most men exist there for me. Yep. I’m (mostly) monogamous. Some men out there seem to take this as an insult but it’s just logistics. I don’t date more than one person at a time. The majority of the population is simply not on my radar 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 11:31 PM
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Just what every woman dreams of hearing 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 11:23 PM
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I find some younger men attractive... until they start talking lol. Some younger men look like straight up babies to me, the ones who don’t are nice to look at but are usually in such a drastically different stage of life that I couldn’t see myself in any sort of serious relationship with them. Maybe casual sex if I was single but I’m not so it’s all speculation anyway. I don’t know if it’s that I thought older men were gross when I was in my early 20s but I definitely thought of them as being p…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 11:19 PM
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I’m 33 and I remember this happening but thankfully my parents didn’t push it on me. We went to church semi-regularly but when I stopped going as an older teen it wasn’t big deal. Every day of my life I’m grateful my dad never bought into any of that virginity worship stuff. Because I was never given a complex about virginity I think I’ve had a pretty successful sex life. I always felt really bad for my peers who were made to feel lesser for having/wanting sex or even masturbating. Sexual compat…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 08:23 PM
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👍
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 08:06 PM
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So no link to a BPer saying that then.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 07:57 PM
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I don’t really care about hypothetical percentages, I go after people I’m attracted to and it’s worked out rather well. More to the point, posting a picture of a hot alternative woman as an attempted insult is just... really funny to me. Maybe if you live in some small town in the Midwest that would be a sick burn but in a big city like where I live her aesthetic is relatively tame. And hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 07:56 PM
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Wait what? I haven’t been that active over the last few months but I recall seeing BP folks saying “it’s a human thing” to various issues over the years while the RP side pushes “men and women are different, they just are!” Please show me an example of a BP person claiming women aren’t capable of being just as shallow as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 07:49 PM
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More for me 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 07:46 PM
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Is that supposed to be an insult? She’s super hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 07:41 PM
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🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 07:35 PM
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I’ve never encountered balls that were not at least kind of wrinkled sometimes. That’s how skin works. Some people use it as a low blow insult to describe a general disgust with being hit on by older men, but don’t let it make you self conscious about your body. It’s not that deep.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 07:34 PM
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Just looked her up, holy crap 😍
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 02:37 PM
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What made you assume I haven’t done that? I answered a specific question about offering to pay the check at a restaurant.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 02:34 PM
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https://archiveofourown.org/media/Celebrities%20*a*%20Real%20People/fandoms
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 09:54 PM
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Hi, I’m a feminist and every time I’ve offered to pay the check I’ve been looked at like my face fell off or asked if I’m mad. It’s men who reinforce this behavior, some of us out here are at least trying to walk the walk.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 09:46 PM
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When I was still dating I more than once offered to pay the whole check and every time I suggested it the man took it as an insult 🤷‍♀️ It comes across as you aren’t happy with how things are going or is seen as suggesting he can’t afford it or whatever. Blame traditional gender roles for this behavior, as a feminist I’ve offered to pay plenty of times.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 09:43 PM
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The best sex, for me, is emotional. It’s not about how hard I orgasm or how many times, it’s about the buildup of desire. The best sex starts hours before any clothes come off.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/19 10:42 PM
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I’m a woman, that’s not how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/19 10:39 PM
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Why would I be engaged to someone shorter than me if that were the case?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/19 05:38 AM
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Nah, 50 Shades was originally Twilight fanfiction, it’s way more nuanced than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/19 03:30 AM
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Co-signed. When I was a teenager on Livejournal there was no shortage of horny women writing and drawing stuff that would make the Marquis de Sade blush. Pyramid Head was very popular at the time...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/19 03:30 AM
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lol what? So just don’t care if she gets off and she magically will? Hoo boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/19 03:27 AM
1

Stop it. Be civil.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 11:11 PM
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As a 5’11” woman, more than half of my partners, including my current SO, have been shorter than me. Sex is easier with guys who are taller but it’s not enough of a difference for me to actually care if I like someone enough. We’re all the same height laying down 😎
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 11:08 PM
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I prefer the term sex worker, but I wish it were more socially acceptable all around.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/19 03:38 PM
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Jesus dude. There’s so much to unpack here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/19 03:37 PM
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Honestly guys who drive really expensive cars are, more often than not, the exact opposite of my type. I don’t like douchey status chasers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/19 03:32 PM
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It would really depend on the guy and what his actual personality was like. There’s a scenario where it could be off putting, there’s a scenario where I could find myself seeing the logic in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/19 03:27 PM
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I write, make music, work on my small business, play video games, take care of my pets and house. Questions like this are always so insulting, women are human just like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 04:54 PM
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I personally couldn’t imagine being a virgin on my wedding night. I know for some people it truly is what they want and that’s for real cool, to each their own. For me though sex is such an important part of relationships that I’d not only want to know exactly what I’m doing by that night with that man, but also that my partner will be right there with me, that we’ll already know each other’s bodies. The sex that night should be a victory lap ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 10:36 PM
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This is a good example of how feminism can also benefit men, actually. Not all feminists were shutting down male victims. Plenty, like me, support them. I’m personally a huge advocate for helping men get their rape cases taken seriously. As well as shutting down casual jokes about things like prison rape or adult women sleeping with underage boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 10:28 PM
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Not really. I’d rather hear he had a triple digit number but that everything was safe and consensual each time than a low number with sketchy details. I actually find it flattering if a partner is willing to talk about their past with me. It means he trusts me and knows I won’t freak out. It’s a vulnerability that I appreciate in a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 10:23 PM
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There is a difference between “only women get to make that claim” and a woman standing up to someone who invalidates her experience by claiming to know more about a woman-specific subject than she does. He made the ridiculous claim that most men take rejection calmly and rationally, and that even the ones who flip out can have good reason to. As a woman, that’s just kind of ridiculous. My lived experience and that if my friends and further testimonials I’ve seen online says otherwise. You’re cha…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 10:11 PM
2

It’s interesting to me that when women talk about friends you don’t automatically assume we’re talking about actual friendship :/
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 10:05 PM
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No I’m not. You disagreed with me that no sex is better than bad sex, or that you can’t know if sex will be bad or not beforehand. I’m explaining to you why women feel differently about that. Also you’re not supposed to downvote.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 08:24 PM
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I can see your side of things with not wanting to be a burden on someone. But as someone who stuck with their partner through several years in the hospital, I can’t imagine just leaving him to fend for himself. And I can tell you it would have destroyed him. I couldn’t do that to someone I love.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 08:20 PM
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Don’t go changing the subject now, that’s a different conversation that I’m honestly not interested in. This guy is claiming to know how most men react when they are rejected. If he’s not the one rejecting men, how would he even know? These things typically happen in private. As a woman, any time I’ve been put in that situation it’s been one on one. Fucking lol at the idea that other men have any idea what it’s like for women to turn down someone who could flip out and hurt them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 08:06 PM
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Ah, but the difference is what bad sex means to you. To a woman bad sex means no orgasm at best, horrible pain at worst. The odds of casual sex being bad are way higher than they are in a relationship with a partner who you trust and who knows your body. Also, as a man, you have no risk of becoming pregnant. There’s an entire universe of risk men just don’t have to think about when deciding to have sex or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 08:03 PM
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It explains why you don’t understand why women wouldn’t be into casual sex. For you, all sex is good sex. For women that is not the case at all and understanding that is the first step towards understanding lots of other things about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 07:31 PM
4

Oh how wrong you are!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 07:30 PM
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So it’s not anywhere close to unconditional love then. It’s one thing if everything is fine and your partner won’t fuck you, but if it’s because she’s lying in the hospital with cancer and that means she’s “not meeting the bare minimum standard of being a female partner”.... just holy crap. And yeah, abandoning a special needs child is the right thing to do, dad’s dick is more important 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 07:29 PM
3

I’m gathering from this comment that you’re a man lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 07:13 PM
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Or maybe, just maybe, we really are actually friends and I don’t want to mess that up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 07:11 PM
2

Couples who are friends? Yes, almost all of my relationships have been like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 07:00 PM
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That’s a really strawmanny view of feminism lol. None of that applies to me, I love men 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 06:58 PM
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That really depends lol. No sex is better than bad sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 06:56 PM
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It depends. Varies from person to person.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 06:54 PM
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They aren’t in every scenario. I’ve had several “successful” friends with benefits situations where it didn’t kill the friendship. But sometimes it does. One person could catch unrequited feelings. All sorts of things could go wrong. And sometimes good genuine friendships aren’t worth the risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 06:48 PM
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Feminists would be the first to tell you that, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 06:44 PM
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Are you a woman? Do you have to turn down the sexual advances of men on a decently regular basis? If not I don’t know how you could think you would be aware of what the norm is for such a situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 06:42 PM
2

Yikes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 06:01 PM
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Men say that but I’ve found it to be bullshit time and time again. They say they can handle the truth but then they want to debate when they don’t like the answer. Or worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 05:58 PM
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I just think it’s interesring how this conversation seems to be men annoyed at women wanting to love men and commit to them given how much some men also claim that women are flighty sluts who can’t love. Being a woman is so much fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 07:28 PM
1

What a convenient saying lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 03:12 PM
1

We’re all in our mid 30s-early 40s.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 10:48 PM
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I have way too many happily single female friends for this to be true. Spinsters have always been a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 09:40 PM
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Yeah, guys who do that give me a “This is the kind of person who would have tormented me as a child” vibe which is about the least enticing behavior I can think of lol. I know now that that isn’t necessarily the case but it’s hard to force past those old traumas. Reacting poorly to it has also gotten me labeled a bitch but I’m past caring 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 09:33 PM
3

Sorry for wanting love lol 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 09:28 PM
3

I agree with you that it should be possible to treat casual sex partners with respect without being accused of sending mixed signals. On paper that sounds idyllic. It’s something I never stopped experiencing though, I just got better at fending off the inevitable tidal wave of feelings that release when a guy whose great at sex also treats you really nicely.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 09:27 PM
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Mistaking annoying little brother prank shit or groping for flirting. I was bullied as a child and was a late bloomer. I will never enjoy this kind of flirting and will always knee-jerk assume I’m being genuinely mocked if I get treated this way, even now as an adult who did finally leave the awkward phase behind.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 09:15 PM
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Honestly, I’ve met enough men who I wouldn’t want to change anything about that I don’t think I can really answer this question. I could list a bunch of traits I don’t like but the reality is there are guys out there who don’t do those things. I don’t want every man to be my perfect man, it’s not like I’m dating all of them 😏
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 09:08 PM
2

I haven’t been in the dating market for years now but my experience lines up with this. I more than once assumed a FWB was catching feelings for me when he acted the way you describe and it triggered feeling catching in me, then inevitably heartbreak. It’s a result of having casual sex partners who fucking bounce after they nut and go out of their way not to give off boyfriend vibes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 09:04 PM
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I'm the kind of person that would find the attention from random strangers distressing As a woman this is pretty much how I feel about it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 08:55 PM
6

inb4 replies proclaiming yes and how easy it would be and how they’d just fuck themselves into wealth and happiness
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 08:54 PM
1

I don’t require different things from different genders, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 09:07 PM
5

You’re giving 15 year olds way too much credit lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 08:26 PM
3

I dated a guy once who I wasn’t super attracted to, but it wasn’t because I thought of him as “filler”. He had a crush on me and our whole mutual friend circle knew it, so I was urged on by his friends to give him a shot. I wanted to like him, and I did, but shortly after the one year mark I caught myself catching feelings for someone else and I realized it was over. You can’t force attraction, and ever since then I’ve had a very firm boundary when it comes to being guilted into dating someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 08:19 PM
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I'm flattered that you're assuming I'm rich ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 01:15 AM
2

Radfems are no fun. Intersectional sex-positive progressive feminism is where it's at \m/
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 10:18 PM
11

I for one am a happy feminist 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 09:18 PM
5

Not necessarily, no. There is a lot of gray area here though. I’ve heard men tell tales about how “the second they showed some vulnerability” their partner lost attraction. However, when pressed further I’ve seen it revealed that this second of vulnerability was really some kind of meltdown, which is a bit different. I like men who aren’t afraid to cry a bit during a sad movie. Or who are comfortable communicating to the point of being self-aware of their insecurities. I want to know if somethin…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 09:16 PM
3

You can live in “emotions don’t matter land” all you want, meanwhile in the real world cheaters will continue to be treated accordingly during divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 06:10 PM
3

We do? Lol, no. When you get married you intentionally and knowingly intertwine the law and your emotions and love life. You are legally agreeing not to fuck anyone else. If you do you are in breach of contract, it’s not just about hurting someone’s feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 05:59 PM
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It’s intertwined when it comes to divorce and you’d be a fool to tell yourself otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 04:59 PM
8

Spoiler, relationships are about emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 04:57 PM
12

I’ve said it in here over and over again that the world is full of sensitive men who see a distinct difference between fucking and making love and even prefer the latter and dudes in here always pile on to tell me I’m wrong and delusional. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 03:57 PM
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It’s because it’s ridiculous that it’s part of the list. Anyone with a normal dating life has more than likely broken up with someone. There are plenty of good reasons to end relationships. By equating dumping someone with cheating or other “bad” behavior it implies, even if this wasn’t your intention, that they’re equally egregious. Honestly if a guy told me he wanted to date a girl who would never dump someone that would be a huge red flag to me and would signal that he’s controlling.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 10:04 PM
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“Breaking up with a guy” is part of AWALT? Oh geez. So to not be one of those women you’re never allowed to end a relationship, very cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 09:55 PM
3

Lol fair enough, okay let me try and summarize my stance a little better. It seems like men are more obsessed with length than anything. Most guys online who are trying to attract a woman with dick size will claim to be somewhere with 8-10 inches. That is... ridiculous. Getting poked hard in the cervix hurts (yes I know some women are into this before anyone sidetracks with this but it’s very niche, like other pain fetishes). Most men do not have dicks that long, most sexually active women know …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 04:47 PM
2

I mean real talk, your dick sounds pretty perfect, I’m happy for your wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 04:32 PM
3

Congratulations, your dick is big in the way women do tend to care about, width 🤘🎉
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 04:29 PM
8

Nooo I’m sure your dick is fine, that was not my intention!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 04:23 PM
4

How are you in the girth department?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 04:18 PM
2

bisexual high-five
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 03:36 PM
16

You’re talking about such a small slice of the female population that it really isn’t worth worrying about. Most women do not want hilariously huge dicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 03:33 PM
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No, lol. I’m also great at sex and don’t mind constructive criticism. If I ever felt like I wasn’t a good enough fuck, I would learn how to fuck better and then just do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 03:26 PM
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In my experience, when a woman says something like “looks aren’t everything” or somesuch in conversation, it’s when she’s defending a guy that she finds attractive that someone else doesn’t. Just as an example, more than once in this very sub, I’ve seen men argue with women about which celebrities women find attractive, the first one coming to mind being Adam Driver. I find him attractive, as do plenty of women. I have had multiple men tell me they think he’s ugly or want me to explain how I fin…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/19 10:25 PM
1

You don’t get to decide your own rank. So many dudes on the internet are like “I’m a 5/6 but I can’t get other 5/6s!” Spoiler, you’re not a 5/6.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 10:41 PM
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Granted I didn’t make it easy for them I’d like to hear more about this part.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 10:29 PM
7

You haven’t experienced being jaded until you’ve been an ugly woman. You can’t teach children about real love because it’s a mistake everyone has to make for themsevles. I was told point blank all the relationship advice I’d ever need as a teenager by older friends and it promptly went in one ear and out the other. We all have the epiphany you’re having, male, female and everything in between. Love is not magical or effortless or something you earn or unlock after completing a designated task. L…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 10:27 PM
2

It’s just weird to me how big a deal you think it all is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 11:54 AM
5

What an incredibly strange thing to be fixated on.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 09:17 PM
1

Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 09:08 PM
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You know, I wasn’t going to make a top level reply to this post, but then I saw this thread on askreddit full of men talking about how not only are they attracted to women 30+ as they themselves get older, they also find women in their 20s to look like children the further away they get from 20. Which lines up with what I’ve observed in my actual life. I wholeheartedly believe that plenty of men, especially men in this sub, function along RP talking points, but the truth really is that not all m…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 10:57 PM
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The two of you are using the word compatibility differently. Compatible doesn’t just mean “find sexy” it means have things in common. The tv shows that came on when you were a kid. The music that was popular during your prom. People the same age are culturally compatible in a way they are not with people a decade younger. My partner is 13 years older than I am, and in many ways we are not compatible. There are references I make that he doesn’t get the way my same aged friends do. There is music …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 10:08 PM
1

Picking a fight with a stranger is never appropriate.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 09:24 PM
1

I’m plenty into making sex look good but not if it’s painful. Different women’s bodies are shaped different and for some women doggy style with dramatic arching is unbearably painful. Thankfully I’m not one of those women but we shouldn’t shame the ones who are built that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 09:23 PM
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I have only ever been annoyed and embarrassed when guys I was with fought with strangers like that. I can’t even imagine being attracted to someone like that. I’d be living in fear that he’d turn that uncontrolled violence on me sooner or later.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 08:45 PM
1

Thank god. Ignoring the crazy asshole is exactly what I’d want my boyfriend to do. Guys who respond to fights with strangers are super embarrassing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 08:42 PM
1

Everyone has the “right” to complain about whatever they want. It’s not like it’s a legal matter or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 08:40 PM
2

My partner and I are both “clean as we go” people, so things usually never get messy enough to stress me out. There was one time we both got sick at the same time and the place got legit messy, and I remember there was a day when I just couldn’t fucking take it anymore and power cleaned out of built up frustration of how uncomfortable and unhappy the mess was making me. I was already sick and feeling like shit so I didn’t recognize the building anxiety for what it was until I hit that breaking p…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 10:27 PM
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I feel like you’re not understanding my comment. It’s not a game, I don’t want to be hurt. The way you’re describing all this makes it seem like you think women are being cruel or flippant when with me it is the opposite. I am demonstrating that I’m serious about someone when I don’t jump into bed right away.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 09:56 PM
1

🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 08:48 PM
2

I have plenty of empathy for men who approach, as someone who has approached and been rejected, I get it. But what exactly does that accomplish? Most men I’ve talked to don’t want pity, if I’m turning a guy down does he really want me to draw it out about how sorry I am?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 08:45 PM
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No, it’s damn near universal. I have always preferred to both be vocal and have my partner be vocal. I think it’s hot and it makes the sex more pleasurable and fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 08:42 PM
2

I’m over here shaking my head at how much everyone is overthinking this. Women moan enthusiastically during sex because it’s fun and because men like it. Also I’m sure because they see it in porn. It’s not fake to ham it up, it’s a normal, mutually enjoyable part of sex. You don’t need to look back thousands of years to understand it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 08:39 PM
1

Do you not want women you’re attracted to to be the one to develop interest and approach you? What part did I get wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 08:35 PM
3

So any moan that isn’t involuntary is “faking” to you? See, to me, it’s only faking if you’re pretending to have an orgasm. Turning up the moans out of enjoyment is not faking if you are enjoying yourself, at least in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 08:29 PM
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I see it as me making sure he intends to stick around after sex. If I’m invested enough emotionally in a guy that I know I like him and want to date him, and know that I’ll feel hurt if he only wants me for sex, I’m going to do what I can in minimizing my chance of getting hurt. If he likes me enough to wait a bit, I know I can hopefully trust him enough not to pump and dump. If that was his intention and he gets fed up with “waiting” and moves on, I’ve dodged a bullet. It’ll hurt to be rejected…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 08:25 PM
4

It’s not faking to moan in time with the sex rhythm lmao. Why wouldn’t you do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 08:17 PM
2

Women are verbal during sex because it’s natural and also men love it. Subsequentially, I prefer men who are more vocal in bed. Men who are quiet during sex are weird to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 08:15 PM
0

So you want women you’re attracted to to do all the work for you. What are you doing to make yourself attractive enough to those women that they would feel compelled to approach you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 08:11 PM
2

I attempted to approach multiple times when I was younger and I discovered that, in practice, men don’t like it, especially younger men. One guy was self aware enough to tell me that he wanted a chase and that he wasn’t into me because I was so blatantly into him. He had a crush on a girl who barely acknowledged his existence and was rude to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 08:00 PM
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You have men to blame for the current situation. If men weren’t so quick to dismiss women who have sex on the first date as not girlfriend material, more women would. Women, generally, want sex to turn into a relationship unless explicitly stated otherwise upfront.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 07:55 PM
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Women don’t see making men wait as punishment. The sooner you accept that the happier you’ll be.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 07:47 PM
5

I offer whatever it is they like best about me. Guys overthink this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 07:42 PM
1

What makes you think that?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 11:48 PM
1

I already told you I don’t nag, because I don’t need to, because my partner cleans up after himself like an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 11:39 PM
1

Lol, him being messy is my problem? Not after I dump him.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 11:30 PM
1

This is why I think people should live together first before marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 11:30 PM
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I guess my point is that if a man understands something is worth doing to get a new partner to approve of him and want to have sex with him, choosing to stop doing that over time shouldn’t result in him being shocked she notices and reacts poorly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 11:24 PM
2

Where did I say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 11:16 PM
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If you’re upfront about not being clean, that’s one thing. I’m talking about guys who hide it as long as they can and then don’t understand why their partners lose respect for them when it turns out they are less clean than they pretended to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 11:12 PM
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No, now I’m having trouble taking what he’s saying seriously because of the words he decided to use. It tells me what he thinks relationships are shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 11:10 PM
1

Well at least you’re honest about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 11:10 PM
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Surely you can understand that if he only cleaned when she was coming over, he was trying to impress her and create the illusion that he either lived in a home that always looked like that or felt she was worth cleaning up for, as a means of increasing his attractiveness as a sex/relationship partner. Him being a slob in secret when she isn’t around shouldn’t get factored into things, he’s going out of his way to not let her see that. Once he stops caring enough and let’s shit get messy when she…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 11:07 PM
0

What valid points?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 10:58 PM
2

So you understand that a woman is more likely to fuck you if you don’t live in squalor. Do you maintain that same level of tidiness throughout a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 10:57 PM
2

Hiring a cleaner is wonderful solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 10:48 PM
3

Yeah it’s sounds like your place is an acceptable level of clean whether you’re bringing someone home or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 10:47 PM
1

In general. There are exceptions such as lifestyle changes brought upon by an illness or accident out of your control.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 10:44 PM
2

If you think a woman is worth tidying up a bit for the first time she comes over, what do you think it tells her as you start to put in less effort over time?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 10:41 PM
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Cool. I think saying “relationshit” is antithetical to a serious conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 10:39 PM
3

I guess I just think it’s a bit disengenous for a man to claim he sees no link between a clean house and an enthusiastic sex partner, when men clearly know to tidy up to increase their chances with a new woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 10:38 PM
3

Why don’t you believe the women who say their men genuinely used to be cleaner?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 10:35 PM
1

It’s slang, sorry. I’m saying if they chose not to be honest with me, it’s their fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 10:35 PM
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I’m saying I’m reevaluating how seriously I’m taking your comments given that you typed out “relationshit” intentionally, twice.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 10:34 PM
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I thought it was a typo but I now see you’re saying “relationshit” on purpose. I think you might be a bit biased.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 10:30 PM
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I could think of an endless number of things, that’s why I want to know what you’re thinking of. But no, within reason. I don’t think cleaning is the only trait that can be falsely advertised.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 10:28 PM
7

And yet you say you have no idea why showing less enthusiasm in a woman might make her want to have less sex with you. Amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 10:27 PM
1

Their bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 10:26 PM
2

I’m asking you about what you have in mind because I have a feeling you’re thinking of something specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 10:22 PM
2

I mean, I’ve been with my partner for 9 years and my make-up/beauty routine, barring hospital-trip-worthy illness has been more or less unchanged. Like I said in my above comment, the ex I’m talking about went from dusting before he knew I was coming over to literally leaving actual garbage on the floor. I never cared if he dusted. I don’t dust regularly. But I don’t want garbage on the floor. You’re kind of arguing against a whole different situation than what I made this thread about. I’m in a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 10:20 PM
1

Like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 10:14 PM
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If you don’t think there is any correlation between having a clean place and a woman’s likelihood of fucking you, why bother to tidy up for a first date? Why not just bring her home to how messy you might let the place get after a year or more of dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 10:12 PM
1

There’s plenty of variety I’m sure. That doesn’t change the fact that a sizable number of people pretend to cleaner than they are in the beginning of a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 10:11 PM
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I learned pretty quickly that yes, it’s annoying when someone presented a false front in the beginning of a relationship. I would actually completely understand why a man would feel hurt if I stopped giving a shit about my appearance. It might hurt to hear but it’s not like it wouldn’t understandable.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 10:10 PM
1

Yes, the man is poorly communicating. He is saying he’ll do his fair share of cleaning when he has no intention to. I don’t have to nag because my partner cleans up after himself like an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 10:05 PM
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I don’t understand why you think a woman wanting things clean is a ridiculous standard when you say you live in and enjoy an immaculately clean living space when single.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 10:01 PM
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You seem to understand though that it significantly ups your chances of having sex to show her that you have a clean place like an adult with self respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 09:59 PM
1

It’s a spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 09:57 PM
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If your place is at a 50 when she sees it for the first time and decides to move in knowing that’s how much you clean, that’s on her I’d say. That isn’t really how it plays out though in my experience. I dated a guy when I was younger who overcleaned early in our relationship and then gradually dialed it back over time until he was leaving dirty dishes and laundry everywhere except where they were supposed to be. To me, doing that communicates that he lost respect for me, as he felt I was “worth…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 09:57 PM
1

They usually do, and when the man doesn’t hold up his end of the bargain and a woman has to ask more than once, they call it nagging.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 09:53 PM
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Fair enough. Personally I’m not looking at a guy’s windows when a guy brings me to his home after a first date. When making this thread I was thinking more of dirty laundry on the floor, stack of pizza boxes, ect.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 09:50 PM
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Do you think that if you bring a woman home to an intentionally clean home, she might be confused if you gradually become messier over time? I guess to me it comes off as false advertising.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 09:47 PM
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So would you understand why a woman in an LTR might desire less sex over time if a man becomes messier?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 09:44 PM
1

I’m talking about any tidying up at that differs from how he’d have his place look on a night he wasn’t having a woman come over.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 09:41 PM
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Why? Is it because you want to impress her and inspire her to have sex with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 09:41 PM
3

So why not continue to do that throughout the relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 09:39 PM
2

If a woman chooses to move in with an unapologetically sloppy man, who she know she will never clean up after himself going in things, that’s on her. But in my experience that is not usually how it goes down.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 09:38 PM
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So you wouldn’t need to clean on a first date because your place would already be clean. Are you saying that you are consciously less clean by choice when in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 09:36 PM
1

Because messy men typically don’t act like slobs until it’s too late and you’re already living together.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 09:23 PM
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A good full “I want to fuck tonight” shave takes almost an hour. I also like having pretty feet, so scrubbing dead skin off is another time sink. I do my own eyebrows and hair color touchups. I also do body scrubs. I swear, some men think women are just naturally smooth and hairless and pleasant smelling. Even when you’re “not wearing makeup” the rest of the body also takes time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 08:47 PM
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Maybe if he’s a digstuing garbage person he should live his truth, instead of pretending to be a clean, non gross person in the beginning of a relationship. She doesn’t want to change him, she wants him to the person she thought he was, the person he was pretending to be to secure a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 08:33 PM
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Different person but no, it’s because a relationship is a partnership and it is wholly unfair for one person to do all the cleaning. Men who are content to live in filth are weirdly fascinating to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 08:29 PM
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Get on the apps with a decent profile, meaning nice pictures and a unique, fun sounding summary. Brace yourself for rejection and take it gracefully when it happens. Don’t spend money you don’t have, if you can’t afford to take out strangers who might not fuck you, don’t suggest expensive dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 08:25 PM
2

Depends on the person 🤷‍♀️ I’m a bi woman and I’ve experienced variations of both. I’m usually interested in a relationship first, so when I go for the sex I’m really wanting both. I have had two one night stands though where I knew I didn’t want to date the guy (both ONS were men) but had sex anyway because, well, I wanted to. I’ve also felt compelled to date people that I wasn’t super physically attracted to but liked enough as a person for that to be outweighed in importance. Really just depe…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/19 10:39 PM
3

Of all the people for you to pick a silly fight about this with it’s funny you’re choosing me, considering how much porn for women I’ve personally created over the years lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/19 02:49 PM
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No, I described how to tell when it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/19 02:24 PM
3

I said nothing to the contrary.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/19 02:11 PM
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I mean if someone is asking for harder when a man is already going as hard as he can that is one thing. I’m talking about men who say “No you’ll like it soft trust me” and then get pouty when I’m not enjoying myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 11:48 PM
1

It depends on the women. Some women aren’t comfortable opening up about what makes them feel good. Better to find someone sexually compatible from the getgo instead of trying to change someone who doesn’t want to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 11:47 PM
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It can, but even when it’s a result of pleasure there is urine present in the mix of fluid. And in porn it’s sometimes just straight up pee for the visual effect. I’ve “squirted” a few times in my life, but I’ve also had just as pleasurable sex where I didn’t, so for me at least it’s not an indicator of max pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 11:27 PM
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It’s like that episode of South Park where Cartman said a girl attacked him and drew a vagina on his face, only it was obvious Cartmen drew it there himself since he also drew balls on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 10:42 PM
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Then I envy your sexual experiences with only competent, non-sulky partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 10:40 PM
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At this point in my life I’m the same way. I was very much in the “I don’t need an orgasm sex is still good without it” camp when I was younger, but these days sex without an orgasm is, to me, a waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 10:38 PM
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Men are arguably better suited to take a dick since they have a prostate. Real talk if I had one I’d be way more open to anal 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 10:36 PM
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This is a Q4W thread. Meaning it’s a question posed to women. The point of such a thread isn’t “well men have their equivalent”. Feel free to make a new thread for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 10:31 PM
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Do you have sex with men?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 10:29 PM
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I had an awesome argument in here probably over a year ago about dildo use in porn. Some guy was saying that all/most women masturbate with comically large dildos because that’s what you see in porn. And I was like exactly, that’s what you see in porn. It’s performative for the male gaze, men want to see women getting penetrated with something big. And I said that yes even amateur solo videos, even intended for an audience of one is still porn. Most women who masturbate with toys use small vibra…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 10:25 PM
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Of course it’s from porn, lol, and I say this as someone who likes porn. Those memes made me so mad. There was such an arrogance to it, like “silly girls you’re doing sex wrong”. Dramatic arching can be super painful for women who have a sensitive cervix. If these guys would stop and use their brains for half a second, they’d be so much better at sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 10:16 PM
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“Squirt” is at least half pee. It often has little to do with how much pleasure she’s experiencing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 10:12 PM
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—what I want is never easy Damn if this isn’t the truth. Sure I could walk into a room of random men and announce that I’m DTF, but I don’t and have never wanted sexual attention from strangers. I don’t want sex from just anyone. Men who don’t understand this are comparing apples and oranges.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 10:06 PM
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Insecure men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 09:49 PM
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Depends on the level of cluelessness. A friend of mine recently hooked up with a guy who told her he was a virgin after the fact, she said she never would have known. I personally have never had an issue helping guys out who weren’t getting it immediately right. If anything guys who are open to input are a joy in bed. A guy would have to be incompetent on a level that I haven’t personally experienced for me to avoid a second encounter.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 09:48 PM
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I (briefly) dated a guy who would both 1) get mad if I didn’t orgasm during PIV and 2) refuse to do what would actually make it happen, which was to do some kind of clit stimulation at the same time. He didn’t even want me to do it myself, he saw it as an insult to his dick. But then he’d get sulky when I didn’t orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 09:16 PM
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I’m assuming you’re not a woman, it happens all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 09:01 PM
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If a woman gives criticism during sex, like “harder” or “slower” or “rub here instead of there” just listen to her, for the love of god don’t argue about it. Don’t insist you know a woman’s body and preferences better than she does. You don’t. Back when I was younger and dating it blew my mind the number of guys who would insist women were having sex/feeling pleasure “wrong” because constructive criticism hurt their egos.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 08:55 PM
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I can only assume he wrote such a gross list to generate controversy. Boring troll is boring 2/10
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 08:47 PM
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Most of the answers were "That we aren't interested in them". That's the only thing you can think about the subject? That you're not interested in them? I fail to see the problem here. That’s also pretty much the only thing I agree incels are right about. Most people get crushes one at a time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 07:10 PM
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People talk a big game on Fet ;) Like I said though, I’m confident a lot of it is just fantasy and sexy talk and speculation. I’m someone who likes to be spanked and I like hair pulling but because of how I roll I don’t classify that as pain. To me, pain is like, getting literally punched or cut or unwillingly fucked to the point of tearing, especially coupled with a partner I didn’t consent to. I stand confidently by my statement that only a sliver of a sliver of women like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 06:48 AM
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As someone who is part of the kink scene I’m pretty confident in what I’ve already said. Maybe it’s different where you live.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 06:39 AM
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I don’t think I’m giving them “too much credit” because I’ve actually been to these things and you’re saying you haven’t. It doesn’t matter if “most” men don’t think women deserve rape for dressing “like a slut”, a judge ruled that as the case and lit that fire so here we are. If as a man you don’t think women should be assaulted for showing bare legs the best way to support that cause is to join the feminists 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 06:37 AM
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Okay but that doesn’t mean they don’t believe in the original purpose of slut walks, if anything what you’re descrbing goes hand in hand. Destroying the words impact would certainly go a long way towards fighting the stigma that if a woman is dressed a certain way she must want sex therefore raping her is fair game. I should be able to go to the grocery store wearing whatever I want and have more than once intentionally dressed down to avoid unwanted sexual attention. That’s annoying and it shou…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 02:09 AM
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So you’ve heard women say they’re at the walks only to celebrate being a slut and not taking a political stance against the “she was asking for it” defense?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 01:24 AM
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Have the videos you’ve watched been unedited raw footage, or is it something with commentary by someone who doesn’t like slut walks? I’m familiar with the way CMV posts work in this sub by the way, you don’t need to keep pointing out that it’s a CMV post like my comments are inappropriate, they’re not. I’m first and foremost trying to pin down what your current view actually is and I’m hoping that getting you to think about it might change your view, especially since I’ve let you know that I hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 01:17 AM
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Have you been to a recent slut walk?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 01:02 AM
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I’m telling you what the people who go to them think, which is what I said in my above comment. You have implied they are for women to “come out as a slut” which is laughably inaccurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 12:29 AM
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I think it’s dated and sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 10:39 PM
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If you’re not willing to listen to someone who has actually marched in a slut walk I don’t know what to tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 10:38 PM
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You just proved my point. In the BDSM scene, which is a niche kink community. Most women are vanilla and do not get off on real pain. And most BDSM pain is not anywhere near on the same page of how it hurts to be unwillingly penetrated. Getting spanked is not the same thing as getting beaten up and raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 10:38 PM
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Yes, I’m trying to change your view to what the correct definition of a slut walk is, since you don’t seem to understand what they’re about.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 03:02 AM
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No. Slut walks are a demonstration that it doesn’t matter what a woman is wearing, aka whether or not she’s dressed “slutty”, she doesn’t deserve to be raped. A woman should be able to walk down the street wearing as little as is legally allowed aka “like a slut” without being attacked. So to express that belief women are doing just that, as a political/social activist statement. Some march with them in solidarity fully clothed, some are rape victims, some are not. To compare slut walks to hypot…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 01:52 AM
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For me this is 100% spot on. I totes have fantasies about an attractive man that I already want to have sex with coming onto me strongly and agressively aka “having his way with me”. I do not fantasize about having a man I don’t want to have sex with forcibly rape me with pain and fear and stuff. I will say as an ambassador of the world of kink and written erotica, that there is a niche type of woman out there who does legit get off on real pain and humiliation and all that but it is a very smal…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 01:27 AM
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When I first started dating my now fiancé, one of his favorite foreplay things to do was asking me about my sexual past and get turned on by the stories I’d tell. It’s so fucking funny to me that some guys think all other men think like them. They don’t, my dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 12:59 AM
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This would imply that being a virgin is the same thing as being a rape victim? I don’t understand how or why you’re equating those two things.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 12:53 AM
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I don’t think that would have been me, as I don’t have a favorite male height haha. I’m 5’10” and my partner is 5’7”. We’re all the same height laying down 🤘 By nature of being both tall for a woman and also bisexual, I’ve never had a hard rule about wanting a partner taller than me. None of the women I’ve dated have been taller than me and only two of the men have. And of those two only one was over 6’ and that wasn’t why I was with him. I do not deny that there are women out there with a heigh…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 06:22 PM
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No, he's not a cartoon strawman for haters to attack, correct. And it really depends on your definition of masculine, I don't see being masculine and being feminist as mutually exclusive. I think he is plenty masculine but I've had people in this sub tell me he isn't because he's shorter than me and a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 07:17 PM
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More like how he communicates during sex. Contrary to popular belief, asking for consent can be ridiculously sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 07:15 PM
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Suit yourself, I don't really care if you believe me or not, I'm living the dream over here~
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 07:15 PM
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My partner is a feminist, it’s ridiculously hot to me and it always makes me so happy when it comes up organically. I’m proud of him and our sex life is great.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 11:20 PM
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Somewhere along the line there was a misunderstanding. I am not arguing with you. I do not cum one way with some men who are good lovers and another way with other men who are equally good lovers. My descriptions of how female orgasms actually work was not to disagree with anything you were saying, it was to spread the good word, as I am very knowledgeable about orgasms and very good at having them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 10:19 PM
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Your initial comment that I replied to about what the guys at MRP believe lead me to believe we were on the same page about this, that that belief is foolish. I don’t know why you’re trying to accuse me of not cumming hard enough with my current partner or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 09:59 PM
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My intention was not to argue with you, as I didn’t think you were disagreeing with me. My intention was more to explain vaginas to the audience.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 09:51 PM
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I don’t think it’s just the women who are arguing about this, I’m certainly not lol. From where I’m standing it’s (some!) men who are getting bent out of shape that they can’t make a woman cum with just their dick and only by stimulating the back walls. That isn’t even how women cum, so to me it just seems like a big ol’ hilariously ignorant misunderstanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 09:47 PM
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Ow my cervix 🙅‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 09:33 PM
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Ahaha no worries. I feel comfortable saying that women who experience “vaginal” orgasms are still having clitoral orgasms, they either have a particularly well-placed g-spot (which is the internal back of the clit) or they are getting their clit rubbed by the guy’s pelvic bone/lower stomach. There just aren’t that many nerves up in the vagina, if there were childbirth would be even more painful and deadly than it already is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 09:30 PM
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I don’t cum vaginally at all, I need to have my clit stimulated in some way, either by the guy or by myself, either is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 09:24 PM
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👆This guy fucks
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 09:17 PM
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And I took that to mean men hear “women like men who express emotions” and proceed to express emotion by treating her like a therapist or verbal punching bag. I like it when men tell me when movies move them emotionally, I’m not going to replace your therapist, that’s above my pay grade.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 09:16 PM
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I mean, if I can’t cum vaginally from one guy’s dick who is genuinely doing a good job and is someone I love and I’m attracted to, a different dude’s dick isn’t going to magically do something different lol No one’s dick can vibrate at varying speeds or has pearls swirling around inside it ;) I don’t know, sex toys are just so fun much and I’ve been with multiple men who love using them, threads like these are always weird/funny to me 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 09:14 PM
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What does any of that have to do with expressing emotion though? Or are you saying expressing emotion is why you got a divorce?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 08:43 PM
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I don’t understand this mentality. A sex toy is a tool in your arsenal, it’s not a separate person with a soul who you’re competing against. If you’re fucking a woman and also stimulating her clit with a vibrator that you are also holding, how is that not you making her cum via supplemented PIV? I don’t understand this unnecessarily pedantic hangup.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 08:40 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 07:57 PM
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Do you know how female orgasms work? Some women can have their clitrous stimulated internally with a penis, the “g-spot”, some women can’t, they’re born that way and it’s just how our parts are shaped. There’s no such thing as a pure, non-clit-related vaginal orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 07:51 PM
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I certainly think so. I personally consider myself to have what I’ve recently started calling ‘Mary Poppins big dick energy’. I’m very feminine and flirty and nurturing in many ways but I’m also not an inherently submissive person, at all, and I prefer and arguably even demand equality in my relationships. This issue isn’t so much can you be that way, the answer is yes, the real issue is finding a partner who wants that. Not someone who tolerates it, not someone who secretly hopes you’ll change,…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 07:47 PM
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👍
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 03:55 PM
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Weird strawman you got there.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 03:52 PM
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I don't see BPers saying getting relationships or hooking up is easy, I see people talking about how to be successful you need to be willing to put the work in, make changes, and do the damn thing. As a BP person I don't make fun of unsuccessful people who are trying their hardest to succeed and taking criticism seriously, I make fun of people who don't try at all and come up with excuse after excuse to murmur out into the comforting void of the internet and their male-flavored safe spaces for v…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 06:48 PM
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Having thick skin has nothing to do with whether or not I feel like wasting my time somewhere that adds nothing of value to my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 02:09 PM
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This is why I always have to roll my eyes whenever someone says that this place is overrun with TBP users. It isn’t, most of the TBP users have learned to stay away from here. Sometimes I don’t even know if I’d still be here if I weren’t a mod.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 10:25 PM
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I was definitely taught to yell “fire” instead of “rape”. My dad also enrolled me in karate and showed me how to defend myself with a knife. My mother works with kids and she taught me early on about the danger of strangers and child molesters and emphasized that if I was ever confronted by a stranger trying to lure me away that they were intending to hurt me and to never trust someone like that. And yes, if I ever find myself a parent I would teach my kids the same things.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 08:04 PM
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Immigrants are statistically less likely to commit crime, especially if they're undocumented. It's just weird that you went there for you hypothetical.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 12:29 AM
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I’m only talking about the OP’s specific example, which is apparently wanting a partner who never made mistakes in dating. I can’t imagine someone so rare being interested in someone who isn’t perfect like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 08:04 PM
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You seem to be confusing flirting and pick-up lines. I’ve always interpreted flirting as improvisational and it demonstrates that you’re witty, quick-thinking, that you have the social courage to engage with people you don’t know very well. Flirting shows you’re charming, smart, brave. Pick-up lines are often the opposite of that; memorized, canned, prepared ahead of time and rarely actually used naturally or correctly. Pick-up lines are an attempt to capture what flirty people can pull of natur…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 07:59 PM
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Why? Because if you don’t it’s unlikely someone who meets those high standards is going to be interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 07:54 PM
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You know that isn’t how vaginas actually work, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 07:51 PM
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I’ve had conversations with incels where they describe what they’re like, and in their own words will admit to being lazy, anti-social, unhygienic. They’ll tell me that they don’t see the point in friends and would prefer to never go outside or speak to people, they see it as annoying and a waste of their time. But they want a girlfriend who is not only physically beautiful, but who has a warm, bubbly, social, caring personality and see nothing wrong or weird about that huge contradiction. They …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 07:35 PM
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Why does it have to be an immigrant? Why not just ask about hiring a person who hid a criminal past? Weird detail you chose to add.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 07:30 PM
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“Young people should be mature from the get go and anyone who makes mistakes is tarnished for life” This reads of some super sour grapes. Men date shitty women when they’re young, too. If you don’t want to date a woman who used to date assholes, don’t. But if you’re going to demand partners who are both currently perfect and have always only ever made mature, responsible choices, I would expect you also hold yourself to that same high standard, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 07:27 PM
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Okay. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 02:30 PM
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I have, it made me cry ugly tears, Tom Hanks did a great job as Walt
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 02:22 PM
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Lol okay
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 02:21 PM
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I just saw the new movie a few days ago so it's fresh in my mind, but I love how she acts kind of bitchy and above it all but quickly reveals she's actually super fun and silly. She's flirty, like constantly, not even in a sexual way, which resonates with me, I'm a huge flirt. She's smart and funny and it just seems like everything is amusing to her and she'll pretend like she's rolling her eyes at it all but she loves to sing and dance and tease. Goals tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 02:13 PM
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Are you suggesting that all or even most 30 something women are obese single moms on welfare? Please tell me I'm misinterpreting this comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 02:11 PM
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Actual compatibility? Idk man, not enough details. As a 30 something woman my partner and I both agree that 20 somethings are adorable stupid babies, so do you I guess but I prefer to date people who I actually have things in common with.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 07:09 AM
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I think it's a nice thing to hear if the guy has actually seen me without makeup on, but most of the time guys are referring to women who are very good at "no makeup" looks. So it's eye-roll worthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 12:45 AM
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She wants him to come back because she's poor, she can't afford to keep her baby at home, either financially or thanks to the social stigma of being a single mother, she hates her awful job with her cruel boss and co-workers who hate and torture her, she's tired of having to sell her body both figuratively (prostitution) and literally (her hair and teeth) to pay for the money she's being extorted for. She also wants to be redeemed in the eyes of the Christian God she believes in, she wants this …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 11:31 PM
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But not about being alpha widowed. Alpha widows don't want anyone else, Fantine can't have anyone else thanks to the societal expectations of women from her time. She had a child out of wedlock, no one wants her now, and even if someone did the church would probably refuse to marry them. That isn't the same thing as being alpha widowed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 10:22 PM
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I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 10:18 PM
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Is this comment from your previous account? uh..... He slept a summer by my side He filled my days with endless wonder He took my childhood in his stride But he was gone when autumn came And I still dream he'll come to me That we will live the years together But there are dreams that cannot be And there are storms we cannot weather! Pretty clear she misses the dude, and wants more hot dickings.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 10:06 PM
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I'm almost positive you're mistaking me with someone else, please link me to my comments making arguments based on her being fictional. I'm currently looking for the thread myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 10:02 PM
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Incorrect, I argued the same points as the other person in this thread, that the lyrics are about her mourning the loss of her virginity and innocence ("He took my childhood in his stride"), the loss of the father of her child and first love, and being seen as an outcast of society and a ruined woman, not simply missing the hot alpha sex as you were claiming. She also sings this song after having her teeth ripped out so she could sell them for medicine money for her baby. That you think one of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 09:32 PM
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I remember the argument quite clearly because it was hilarious, and it was absolutely about you arguing Fantine as an alpha widow. If you have questions about removed comments feel free to take it to modmail.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 09:02 PM
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I've had this exact argument with him before about this song, he doesn't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 08:54 PM
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I exude Mary Poppins energy, she was a role model for me as a child and I love her portrayal in the new movie, made me wanna go buy a bunch of cool period clothes and hats. I don't think I'm alone either. The real question is, are you the kind of person who deserves having someone like that in your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 08:31 PM
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Yes, but only because no one should have that much money in the first place. Dude won’t pay his warehouse workers or drivers a living wage but brags about having so much money he doesn’t know what to do with it and jokes about opening a candy factory like Willy Wonka. Fuck you Jeff Bezos, pay your taxes and your employees you asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 01:52 AM
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I am not familiar with women seriously suggesting any of these things. However you’re right, I don’t really care what men I don’t want to have sex with do, so long as they’re not bugging me for sex. Seems pretty cut and dry and I fail to see the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 11:23 PM
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Not all women expect Prince Charming lol. That trope existing in literature doesn’t prove anything, especially if those stories weren’t even written by women. Maybe men shouldn’t act like their showing off persona is who they really are if they aren’t prepared for disappointment when they drop the act.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 08:57 PM
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I think her point is that that’s arguably everyone’s true self. Yes, your appearance is part of who you are because it can be a reflection of the amount of effort you’re willing to put into yourself. But many men make the mistake that the outward appearance is the entirety of a woman’s personality, and that attractive = good person, which just, no lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 08:44 PM
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Good. Someone raped that woman, this story is a horrific.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 08:34 PM
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Nobody is naturally beautiful in the way the above poster described, maintaining an attractive exterior takes work. There’s nothing fake about having the willpower to maintain an attractive exterior, and the sooner men realize what a woman looks like isn’t who they are the happier they’ll be in their relationship. Your outward appearance is not a “persona”, it is your outward appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 08:23 PM
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Women don’t expect perfection, but they do expect consistency, and men have a bad habit of putting on a performance in new relationships that aren’t an accurate reflection of who they really are, and women become annoyed when they eventually revert to their actual selves. This is what “be yourself” actually applies to. Keep in mind, women do this too, but we’re talking about men here. Men will turn up the charm, talk themselves up, bend over backwards and then drop all of that once he feels he’s…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 08:17 PM
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It’s bullshit in that it’s no different than how men love women, just as conditionally. The only unconditional love that exists is between a parent and a child, or perhaps a human and a pet. A permanent power imbalance. Men think they love their partners unconditionally, but the second women start to lose their looks men are statistically more likely to cheat or leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 08:11 PM
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ripe 😑
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 04:10 AM
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If you can't come up with enough information to actually fill out a post with, consider whether or not it's worth making. Feel free to try again later.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 10:47 PM
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You think all dudes act and look like Jersey Shore club trash?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 10:44 PM
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In the future, please provide at least some actual substance to posts you make, a single question in the title and no body at all does not meet this community's minimum standards. Please put more effort in next time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 10:42 PM
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If you only go out a few times with someone, it's not a real relationship and thus ending things isn't really a breakup at all. I think ghosting once things haven't gotten serious is profoundly rude, but if it's in the early stages of dating I don't think it's a big deal and someone I've been seeing for a short period of time isn't entitled to an explanation for why I've become disinterested. Most people I think would rather live in ignorant bliss anyway, people say they want closure, but who re…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 10:32 PM
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Hardly. A fuckboi is a male slut who fits a certain mold, usually young, hot and stupid. He goes clubbing, he's only interested in casual sex, he usually only cares about partying and getting laid at all costs and is useless for real conversation or actual dating. He's also embarrassingly horny and is the type to send desperate late night texts and unwanted dick pics. Think the dudes from Jersey Shore. That is not a typical man, it's a walking stereotype.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 10:18 PM
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If he's mature and attractive it's not a deal breaker, but most adult women aren't attracted to men that look like pre-pubescent boys or men who don't have their shit together emotionally. If I met a guy and we hit it off and I later found out he was younger than me, it probably wouldn't effect the good impression that he'd already made. But if I don't know the guy yet, sorry, if he leads with his age I'm probably not going to bother, though there are always exceptions to every rule. It’s not ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 10:10 PM
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Have you, personally, been in a dangerous dating situation? Followed? Or on the receiving end of a "creepy" man? Yes. I'm not interested in getting into the details. Just because you haven't heard anyone specifically tell you it's something they worry about doesn't mean they don't. I don't know anything about you IRL, but if you express the sort of opinions you are in this OP, I wouldn't open up to you about it either, you come across as very dismissive. Why would a woman already worried about m…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 09:43 PM
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Stop trolling people, you know better.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 09:41 PM
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And stable men are often just as frumpy and unattractive/unexciting 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 09:04 PM
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Does it matter? Everyone in their 20s is young.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 09:00 PM
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So you understand why women sometimes make the same choice then.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 08:57 PM
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I would be mortified if my SO started a fight like that on my behalf. I’d probably break up with him, how embarassing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 08:39 PM
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I've never seen a man punch a hole through a wall I have.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 11:40 PM
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I'm pretty sure they're not. Men react to breakups and cheating way worse than women in my experience. I had a guy stalk me for two years once after I broke up with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 10:51 PM
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Be civil.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 10:46 PM
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Beta bux talks about relatively well off 30 year olds, not super rich elderly men. Most women are not looking for geriatric sugar daddies.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 09:51 PM
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How old? Are you asking if an otherwise physically unattractive old man becomes attractive because he holds power? If so, then no.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 09:48 PM
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The weed didn’t just get her out of her head, it also got him to actually give her enthusiastic foreplay, which is what she’d wanted all along.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 02:14 PM
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And yet he could totally get it, so I guess face symmetry isn’t that big of a deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 01:53 PM
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Yes, all women do. Usually. Depends on the guy. Lol. Because women are not a hive mind. Neither are men. Men might appear to have a more unified consensus, but I know men whose secret guilty “would bang” list include women like Rachel Dratch and Amy Sedaris, who plenty of men on this earth would not fuck. Give men some credit, they get boners for weirdo dorky girls sometimes too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 01:50 PM
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I'm not going to give you the time out of my day to answer that question because I do not believe you're asking it in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 10:32 PM
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LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 10:27 PM
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Bad analogy. Someone would have to be born married and then not give a shit about their marriage for that to work. Their successful relationships were worked for, and they are fully qualified to explain how they got there. Do you think the women in this sub had their marriages handed to them or something? Or that successful relationships don't take work or effort? I seriously don't understand your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 10:23 PM
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They're in successful relationships, what about that isn't relevant to dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 10:15 PM
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Most of the women on this sub are in long term relationships, many are married, what are you even talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 10:12 PM
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That’s not a proper analogy for your OP. You’re shoving the apple in her mouth when she hasn’t given an answer either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 08:32 PM
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And here I am trying to understand how men take tense silence as enjoyment, how apparently they’re able to perform the mental gymnastics required to convince themselves they’re “normal dudes” for ignoring the normal human responses to fear, like freezing up.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 02:57 PM
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If you try to engage physically with a girl, but she doesn't reciprocate, can you take this as consent? No. Lack of a no doesn’t mean yes, this is pretty basic stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 02:13 PM
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Be civil.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 02:09 PM
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What’s funny to you about that? For women it’s horrifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 02:07 PM
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I thought this was r/dirtypenpals for a second
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 11:15 PM
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I think you should unpack them, preferably with a trained professional. But you have to go in willing and wanting to work on yourself. If you're in denial about those thoughts being unhealthy or try to argue with someone who tells you it's unhealthy to think about another person that way, it'll just be a waste of your time/money. You might be able to unpack those thoughts on your own through meditation and self-reflection, but again, it will a matter of your own desire to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 11:00 PM
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but I just can't let go of the feeling that I'm owed something. That, with her specifically, she needs to, like, repent or something before I could ever look at her again. Do you understand that this isn't a healthy way to think about her? If you're able to tackle unpacking that feeling and working on yourself emotionally, it will have a much bigger impact on your life than simply exercising. Exercising is important of course, but if that's the only work you're putting into yourself, if you're n…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 10:46 PM
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All the mods are listed in the sidebar.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 10:05 PM
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You’re wrong, so feel free to stop spreading false information.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 10:04 PM
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If you could stop pushing the conspiracy that one of the mods here has an army of bots, that would be great.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 05:57 PM
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Please make a small edit to this post to summon the automod comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 08:21 PM
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50% of the women in that story think cheating is wrong, I don't know why you're trying to say this means women are more likely to cheat or somehow justifiy it to themselves differently than men do. A woman posted that question, a woman got yelled at her friend for saying "No fuck that, I'd tell him". And also you seriously think men who cheat don't expect their friends to lie for them? Please.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 07:11 PM
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BUT HE'S PERFECT FOR YOU
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 07:04 PM
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Agreed. That other post was ridiculous. I'm still trying to wrap my head around how someone can't understand that if two people disagree on a fundamental level about something as important as marriage, they are not "perfect" for each other. What do you people even think long term compatibility even is? Physical attraction? Fucking lol. Liking the same fucking movies? A disagreement about the institution of marriage is a deep and core value, why, men who feel this way, would you even want to be w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 07:02 PM
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Knock it the fuck off with this behavior or you will be banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 05:34 PM
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How many times will the women in this sub have to say this until it sticks? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 02:27 PM
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I feel like every single day those companies get worse lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 01:46 PM
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Criminal justice reform, comprehensive environmental protections, guaranteed paid family leave and other comprehensive reforms to protect working people. I’d also like to see some actual regulation and oversight of platforms like Facebook and YouTube, two perfect examples of out of control capitalism trampling people’s rights and privacy because they can. The minimum wage needed to be raised a decade ago, it’s long overdue to be readjusted for inflation and the standard cost of living. Living wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 05:37 PM
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The slippery slope argument doesn’t apply to brestfeeding an actual baby, it’s nice solid ground without even the hint of a slope. People who think breastfeeding is gross or inappropriate are wrong, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 05:30 PM
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Stop trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 02:25 PM
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While not a direct analogy, and I also imagine this is gender neutral, I'm always really disappointed/sad when a very attractive man turns out to be bigoted or expresses some kind of disappointing opinion I strongly disagree with. It's like aww man :( There goes that lady-boner.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 10:22 PM
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This is the correct answer, they aren't nice. The other comments about women loving to reject genuinely nice men are making me roll my eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 09:58 PM
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Also if you’re who just gilded my comment you didn’t have to do that but thanks haha
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 04:55 AM
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It’s cool dude, you’re not in trouble or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 04:53 AM
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Your active participation does not grant you the ability to make posts without topics. We have weekly off-topics posts and at least once a year we have a week long “purge” where sub specific rules are not observed to give the mods a break and let everyone cut lose. Other than that, posts need to relate to PPD entirely and upfront, not eventually with edits over time as you see fit to add them, and your active participation does not grant you the leeway to bend the rules. Feel free to make posts …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 04:46 AM
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👍
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 04:38 AM
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Posts in PPD are required to be related to PPD. Random topicless posts are not and have never been permitted in this community. Please throughly read the rules before posting here again.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 06:50 PM
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Why does it matter what random people other than my fiancé and friends think about my sex life? What effect does it have on their lives? What makes you think I would ever even tell them such intimate details that are none of their business?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 06:46 PM
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Women by now know that many men are disgusted by high N count. See that’s the thing. Plenty of men aren’t. When I met the man who is now my fiancé, early in our relationship we had the “so what’s your number” conversation he got so turned on by the fact that it was higher than he thought it would be that he initiated sex right then and there. Also, maybe two weeks ago, I caught up with an old flame of mine who I’m still friends with and we were sharing wild stories of our youth. He asked me the …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 02:21 PM
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Wonder Woman runs around in skimpy clothes because the character was created by a man. The movie was considered feminist because the character was reimagined into something strong and empowering instead of just a pretty girl in a bathing suit. Surely you don’t think a woman designed that character.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 02:09 PM
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Are you under the impression that silly stock photo is an accurate representation of office culture? 🤣 Remember ladies, hide your teeth!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 09:49 PM
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That’s your takeaway?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 07:14 PM
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I've been harassed more, by the kind of concern-trolling older man, when not wearing makeup - it's like they think it makes you weak and sickly and vulnerable! Cosigned. The men who makes posts like this I'm assuming are on the younger side and completely missed the reality of what women have to put up with until I don't know, five years ago?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 04:34 PM
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I don't know why you're telling me you didn't read my comment. What does this contribute to the discussion?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 04:24 PM
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Not in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 04:24 PM
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Even though I disagree with it, I can at least see their reasoning for visible bra straps and such. But hats???
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 02:36 PM
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Are you being sarcastic? I thought this comment was a joke at first. Do you actually believe that schools encourage students to date and have sex? Teenagers want to have sex all on their own my friend, it’s kind of what humans do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 02:32 PM
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Yep. Women are straight up shamed, often by their male employers, for not wearing heels. I actually prefer to not wear makeup, but have been informed not doing so is unprofessional and makes me look “unkempt” even though my face is otherwise clean and normal besides not having cosmetics on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 01:53 PM
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These questions always crack me up, because for decades women have been fighting for the right to wear pants, to be allowed to wear shoes other than heels to work, to be allowed to exist as human professionals and not have to code themselves as sexy females to be taken seriously at work. Now that we’re in an era where sexual harassment is being cracked down on, all of a sudden dudes want to make us all gray blobs even though plenty of women like to wear makeup for their own sake. This reeks to m…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 01:43 PM
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No it wouldn’t. The type of person who harasses others would still harass, makeup or not. Non-harassers aren’t corrupted by lipstick, that’s absurd and it robs men of their agency. This sounds an awful lot like bogus school dress codes from my childhood that wouldn’t let kids wear shorts or hats, because they are “distracting”.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 01:39 PM
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Our teenaged sexual experiences shape our sexuality. By this logic none of us are able to pair bond past high school and we better hope we meet our soulmates at 15.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 01:15 PM
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I mean, at the end of the day he’s allowed to feel how he feels and draw his own lines in the sand, but I don’t think you’re doing anything wrong and I find his attitude towards this immature and ridiculous. He was expecting you to be into the porn that he’s into, and it never even occurred to him that you might like porn that isn’t targeted at the straight male gaze because, surprise, you are not a straight male. The fact that this never even occurred to him that it’s something that exists that…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 01:12 PM
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"good and consensual sex" is just an ideal that rarely happens in reality This is one of the most depressing things I’ve read in this sub. Thankfully I don’t think it’s true, I just think it’s sad you think it might be.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 12:51 PM
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Right??
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 08:25 PM
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I mean, if that’s the only puss they’ve experienced I guess I get it 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 08:15 PM
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Where is this crowd of straight women who don’t like penises? The only women I’ve met who proclaim that are not straight by their own admission, either openly gay or asexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 07:48 PM
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I have only heard about men who don’t like it thanks to the internet. All the men I interact with in real life are into it, at least those I’m close enough with to hear about such things. Every partner I’ve ever had has been enthusiastically into it, and as I said the other day one dude I was FWBs with preferred it to PIV. Personally, I think the men who say they don’t like it either have only dated women with excessively poor hygiene or are virgins who are repeating edgy jokes they’ve heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 07:36 PM
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Be civil.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 05:16 PM
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This is laughably incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 05:14 PM
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LOL!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 11:26 PM
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Yeah, starting a fight on a plane is a great idea, especially a non American plane. 🙄 I would have been mortified if my partner made a shitty situation worse by deciding he needed to “save” me. What, in the realm of realism, was he supposed to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 01:22 PM
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And I’m telling you my parters are neither weak nor lame. You know what I think is lame and unmasculine? Dudes who won’t go down and think vaginas are icky 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 01:18 PM
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😘
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 01:08 AM
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My life experience tells me the exact opposite but whatever man, do you. I have no shortage of men lining up to go to town down there 😎
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 01:07 AM
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Yep! One of my non-artists was a techy nerdy guy, also loved to eat puss 🤘
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 01:06 AM
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It’s incel slang, short for “femoids”, which is the edgy word they use for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 01:05 AM
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A straight guy who hates pussy. Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 12:58 AM
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No, I love giving oral, I’m sexually attracted to men. And women for that matter. It’s weird to me that there are straight guys who want to touch vaginas with their dicks only, like they are grossed out by them and see them as a means to end they’re embarrassed by. You’re basically saying you’re not attracted to the most female part of the female body.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 12:55 AM
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How are men who put their mouths directly on the vagina fruity? Do you think that’s what gay men like to do? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 12:47 AM
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It’s about the straightest thing you can do to get all up in a vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 12:45 AM
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I think you might be projecting your own preferences onto others. It's pretty normal in my experience for guys to like giving oral. I date artist types, but not exclusively. And I certainly don't screen for who like oral ahead of time, I don't even like receiving it that much. But almost every guy I've been with has done it without prompting and seemed incredibly into it. Maybe my life is some huge series of coincidences.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 09:51 PM
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I mean, some of them have been white, some haven't, but that hasn't reflected their enthusiasm in my experience. Also lol at "pretend", I have had men beg to go down on me even after I've told them I'm not in the mood, I had one FWB where that was pretty much all he wanted to do, even over PIV.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 09:43 PM
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Good to know you support fascist policies.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 09:32 PM
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You're straight and you don't like giving oral? Almost every dude I've been with has lived for that shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 09:31 PM
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They also thought they were right, just like you apparently do. There is no excuse for internment camps, ever. I'm flabbergasted you're defending this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 09:28 PM
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Sure is fascist up in this thread wheeee howdy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 09:23 PM
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That's exactly what the Nazis claimed they were doing. The dehumanizing language you're using is almost identical.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 09:22 PM
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And undocumented indigenous and Latinx people in the US right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 09:20 PM
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As I already said in my above comment, yes it would have been fair for me to get fired if I'd been overheard saying something inappropriate. We were all acting that way, hence my description about how workplaces shouldn't be a free for all. I'm assuming my current business partner knows what restaurant employees are like and couldn't give a shit. Have you ever worked at one? Besides I'm basically my own boss these days, so no, I won't be firing myself hahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 12:42 PM
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I’m having a giggle over here that people in this thread are calling them low SMV. Not I’m not saying they’re high either, but to me they look totally normal, especially given their age in that picture. Sometimes I think this is why conversation is so hard in the pillsphere. She’s not fat or deformed or advertising poor hygiene, she’s just a taller than usual woman with a squarer jaw than models have who also isn’t wearing makeup. Dudes be acting like she’s a -1 or something when for her age, I’…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 10:07 PM
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Women only file for divorce more because men are more content to stay in failed marriages out of laziness. You’re acting like these marriages aren’t already over when the filing is done.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 09:54 PM
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The word alpha has so much baggage at this point that I can't take it seriously. All I can hear is Sebastian Gorka's weird voice saying "the alpha males are back" and it makes me snerk. Before it was completely ruined by the internet, I'd say the difference is that a "non-alpha" person can still be confident about things. An otherwise soft-spoken stay at home mom might speak with confidence about a subject she knows a lot about. I suppose confidence is about surety, while alpha is more about an …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 08:56 PM
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I like porn 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 12:43 PM
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lol. Oh no, I’m going to get fired from the restaurant I don’t work at anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 12:55 PM
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Hmm. What I read had different details, that's interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 08:39 PM
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I’m not being dishonest, but thanks for the reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 07:47 PM
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He undid his pants and came against his stomach, if I remember correctly, I don’t believe he fully undressed and laid down. I mean, I’m not going to pretend to know all the details, but I think it’s completely plausible that he got his pants open and didn’t last more than a few seconds, especially if he’d been nervous about it all and psyching himself up for it for the past however long it took to get to his room. I do specifically remember that he did it immediately after they closed the door, …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 07:47 PM
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He did not obtain their consent I feel like this has been explained over and over again lol. Why would they quickly leave his room laughing and shocked and embarrassed if they’d had any idea he was going to whip his dick out before they even took their coats off? He invited them for drinks and to talk shop. When he “asked” if he could masturbate they thought he was either kidding or doing a bit, since he joked about being a pervert in his act.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 07:32 PM
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Before MeToo, the vibe I got from Reddit was the work spouses were annoying and cringey at best and disrespectful to marriages at worst. I remember multiple posts from both men and women saying that their spouse had a work spouse that made them uncomfortable, and Reddit usually seemed to consense that work spouses are inappropriate. Again, this was before MeToo. Now the same hivemind has completely flipped on that now that feminism can be blamed. Actually, I think they blamed feminism for the wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 07:24 PM
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Nothing has changed where I work. The impression I get is that the people whose behavior drastically changed post MeToo quite possibly were doing something questionable. I have certainly made crude, inappropriate jokes in the past, but I was young and less professional and if I’d gotten in trouble for it, it would haven been justified. Just because the rules aren’t being enforced doesn’t mean it’s fine, and honestly I’m glad shits been tightening up in the places it has been. The workplace shoul…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 07:20 PM
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I think men assume a lot of art is inspired by The Feminine, and if you weren't implying some kind of ultimate pussy-on-the-pedestal type veneration like I've seen around the manospehere, that's how I was interpreting your post and what inspired my reply. I saw this awesome internet moment recently where a few manosphere types posted a picture of a statue of a woman, and used it as an example of the Western Ideal of Feminine Beauty and how wars have been waged and lives lost for such a pure, div…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 04:49 PM
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Posts like these are funny to me, there is a ton of great art out there right now. The internet has us in a golden era of creativity, artists are able to cut out the middle man of the past and share their own work without needing to get signed or discovered, it can just go right up on social media or YouTube. Loads of great music and other media out there. It’s bananas to me that anyone could look at the current landscape and think the world is lacking great art.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 02:15 PM
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ITT men who can’t read 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 02:10 PM
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I just booted up my laptop to check, I usually mod from mobile so I often never even see the notes. You don't have a note like that, for that matter you have zero notes at all. If you'd like the peace of mind, I can send you a screenshot. This is the first I'm hearing of the situation, and from what I can see logged in as a mod, I'm assuming he was either making a joke that clearly fell flat or removed any such note a long time ago. Or like Leane I'm now seeing suggested maybe he tagged you with…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 03:40 AM
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Stop it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 06:32 PM
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I would still feel the most comfortable making judgements on an individual case by case basis, but I think your statement is more or less fair from a general standpoint. My beef is with the suggestion that a guy who does the exact same thing probably doesn't have just as many unresolved issues, and that his ~struggle~ to have the sex makes it less trashy. Every trashy, slutty girl getting fucked in a bar bathroom is being fucked by a guy who is being just as slutty for doing it. The above commen…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 06:12 PM
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Okay? That still doesn't have any bearing on which of those two people is more likely to be a better parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 05:21 PM
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We do talk to each other, and if that happens again I'll weigh in on it. We aren't all online at the same time though, ever, and sometimes in-the-moment decisions get made that accidentally contradict previous statements, we're all only human and doing this for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 05:20 PM
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The comment of mine that you started arguing with was about parenting. I guess you misread it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 04:04 PM
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Purple users have always been able to comment on Q4BP posts if they feel it applies to them, as purple users are people who hold some BP views. There are close to ten now removed comments in this thread from RP or nonpill/outspokenly not blue users scoffing at the question or responding in a way that makes it clear they’re not the target audience. This always happens to some extent but for whatever reason this thread has been getting more of them than usual, hence the sticky.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 04:03 PM
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What you seem to be missing is that I witness both men and women have casual sex while younger and then settle down after and surprise, their gender has no bearing on whether that affects their ability to become good, normal parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 03:31 PM
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Of course that’s not what I’m saying, we don’t need to bring unrelated metaphors into this to muddy the waters. I don’t know what it’s like where you live, but what I described in my previous comment is extremely normal in my city.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 03:09 PM
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So? Did I say anything about how difficult it is? Promiscuous sex isn’t somehow doing different things to you mentally if you have to work harder for it, and even that is honestly debatable, I know plenty of normal-ass men who had casual sex in their early 20s, and no they weren’t “the Chads” of the scene. I’ve always been an artsy weirdo, these were offbeat, alternative types like me. We all, women and men alike, screwed around in college, we all got serious with the partners we met in our mid …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 03:05 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 12:36 PM
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I think it’s ridiculous to suggest to anyone whose participated in wild sex is incapable of being a good parent. Men certainly seem to consider themselves perfectly capable of it, and will have fun then settle down when they’re ready for kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 11:36 AM
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This is the correct answer, it is a meta satire sub. While I’m not a fan if it, it’s just the same as my own guilty pleasure pro SJW hangs and I can admit that. Though let the record show that I saw someone speculating about the outrage that would supposedly erupt if such a place existed and spoiler, it already does and this Reddit feminist doesn’t care. They are entitled to their comedy sub, we all are.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 10:18 PM
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Are they? As a woman whose been online since the 90s, I couldn’t even begin to guess how many times I’ve been assumed to be male, not even maliciously. Thousands. Maybe tens of thousands of times. I think there have always been more women online than anyone realizes because men just assume everyone else is male.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 10:04 PM
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It would be a surprise to the guy who y’all are suggesting should just do literally nothing. This is one of the most confusing pushbacks I’ve ever gotten in this sub. Where’s that sense of responsibility men are supposed to have?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 10:01 PM
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Yeah, because not talking about it and just hoping she won’t go off birth control in silence is a smart idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 10:16 PM
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Is that better than a surprise pregnancy??
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 10:15 PM
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All those things already happen. Contrary to popular belief, it’s very easy for men to make a baby and then just fuck off with zero consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 04:12 PM
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Talk 👏 To 👏 Her 👏 If she’s talking about going off birth control you need to have a serious conversation about alternatives like fucking yesterday. If you’re worried she’s doing it without telling you use a condom or better yet stop having sex with her. Do not drift like a leaf in the wind on this. Full communication. And if this is a fork in the road where you two fundamentally disagree, end it and stop wasting both of y’all’s time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 03:51 PM
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Every time someone brings this up in here, I like to counter with the notion (some) men seem to have that they can cheat on their wives and still be in love with them. Until you’ve lived as a woman I don’t think you can understand how different it looks from the other side. Men abandon their partners, their children, their entire lives all the time. This isn’t a gendered thing. Some people are just shitty. I love my fiancé with all my heart, threads like these are so insulting.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 03:09 PM
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I would be very confused and have a lot of questions. That’s a bit beyond mere artifice.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 12:58 PM
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They’re con artists, and now that the grift is drying up they’re turning on each other. I’m not actually aware of any drama between them, they both fell off my radar a few years ago. But that’s my educated guess based on the way things are going.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 12:39 PM
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There is, Lewis is a mod lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 09:50 PM
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You seem pretty mad about something you don’t care about. You also don’t speak for the vast majority. Plenty of people do care about gender and have zero objection to respecting people’s pronouns.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 07:12 PM
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It is what this about, it’s bringing trans people under the same protection as we already have for other vulnerable minorities. If teachers and bosses are already required to know people’s names, it’s not a stretch to also require them to use requested pronouns. No one is looking like a straight up actual stereotypical man and asking to be called “she”. That is a strawman. Most trans people are at least trying to present as the gender they identify as if they’re asking for specific pronouns to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 06:22 PM
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🙂 Thanks for talking this out with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 05:01 PM
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I agree there’s a language problem, but I don’t see it as tearing the country apart. It’s certainly not pleasant, but change never is. This kind of emotionally charged discourse happens in leftist circles all the time, I’m kind of used to it. Disagreements get people thinking, minds change, the status quo moves as it always does. It’s like society constantly going through puberty lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 04:57 PM
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The studies are discussed in the article I linked you, did you read it? I know it’s Jezebel but it’s written by an educated trans woman who backs up her claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 04:12 PM
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Yeah see this is exactly what I’m talking about. That’s a Jesse Singal article, a known anti trans propagandist with a weird fixation on trans kids. Here’s another interesting article tearing down his talking points and showing some of his behind the scenes motives.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 03:57 PM
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I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 03:49 PM
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The more I think about it, the more I’m remembering additional gender ambiguity in the story. The Swordsworn literally renounce their sexuality and are rendered genderless by the Star-Eyed. Within the communities of non-human intelligent species, almost all of them have a third neutral gender. There’s also that demon villain in the Tarma/Kethry books who literally turns a man into a woman so Kethry can’t attack him/her. I mean, it does come up. Also, isn’t the whole point of the Herald material …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 03:31 PM
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I guess the reason I feel the way I do is because like you said yourself, she goes out of her way to write the emotional pain of sexual minorities and outcasts into the main plot of so many of her stories. I was a kid when I read the Last Herald Mage for the first time, and I cried when Vanyel was raped. It was an eye opening experience for me, and it hugely shaped my development and sense of empathy. I mean my god, Empathy is a power in her world, there is so much emphasis put on trying to unde…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 03:19 PM
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How could she not? Every mini trilogy within the ongoing Valdemar timeline has multiple gay characters. They’re rare but they’re not that rare. The odds that Need has changed hands and been around for as long as she has and has never been around a gay man before strikes me as unlikely.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 03:05 PM
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My takeaway is that she has encountered other gay men throughout her thousands of years of existiance, but that Firesong was the first man she’d ever encountered who was gender balanced enough to be a conduit for her specifically female magic.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 03:03 PM
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As much as I don’t care for the subject matter of this, I am here for a deep lore debate about the Valdemar books. I don’t believe we are actually shown other gay men trying to wield Need, but by the time Firesong comes along she’s awake and she says it herself. If I recall correctly, she is confused that Firesong can wield her, and she explains to an equally confused Elspeth I believe that she senses a “balance” between his male and female side that allows her magic to resonate with him. He isn…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 02:57 PM
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He is also, in Need’s words, “balanced”. Other gay men can’t wield her, he’s different.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 02:50 PM
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Sigh.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 02:47 PM
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Firesong is gender balanced enough to wield Need, that’s the first example to pop into my head. I’m gathering that I’m being targeted at this point though so I’m going to back away from this thread and engage in something more positive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 02:46 PM
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I’m a mod, so I guess that’s one way to look at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 02:44 PM
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She also wrote about gender fluidity and existing as a sexual minority in a hostile environment, and how unfair and damaging that can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 02:43 PM
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Banned from participating in posts directed at the gender they identify as. Which isn’t going to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 02:42 PM
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I’m not trying to “socially enforce your thoughts”. I remember that you said you read Mercedes Lakcey books, which taught me about tolerance and acceptance as a child. I guess I assumed we were likeminded in things.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 02:41 PM
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That was the starting point, but the above user told me they hoped seeing that poll every day would discourage trans people from participating in PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 02:39 PM
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I thought you were cool 🙁 Did this thread get linked somewhere? Three different anti trans people have started replying to comments I made yesterday all at once.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 02:37 PM
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Sex is the wrong word to use, the transition regards gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 02:36 PM
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This comment is confusing. What does transitioned sex mean? Do you mean the gender they were assigned at birth?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 02:34 PM
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Lol the source is Fox News 😂 You know the law makes it illegal for bosses and teachers to create a hostile work environment for other marginalized groups as well, right? All this is doing is bringing trans people into the fold of protections already allowed to other vulnerable people. You’re scaremongering. No one has been arrested.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 02:30 PM
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Aren’t you the one who spammed a link to a poll trying to get trans people banned from the sub every day during the purge?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 02:27 PM
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Alright. I’d be interested in seeing one of these “buried studies”. Because every allegedly controversial study that the trans community has issues with has consistently been conducted by some kind of conservative religious group pushing an anti trans agenda with faux science.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 02:26 PM
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I don’t want to engage because you’re not trying to convince me of anything, you’re hoping people reading this conversation will start to have doubts about supporting trans people. You’re hitting all the usual talking points. I also happen to know a lot about this and you are the one not interrested in good faith from where I’m standing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 02:14 PM
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Stop trolling or you will be banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 02:10 PM
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Sure 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 02:06 PM
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Bullshit. And yes I have. This nonsense about there being “lots” of “regretters” is propaganda being intentionally spread around. I hope you’re not doing it intentionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 02:00 PM
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Be civil.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 01:58 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/a0vt8e/teachers_of_reddit_what_are_some_positive_trends/
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 01:53 PM
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That is a load of misinformation right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 01:52 PM
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Oops we’re friends now 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 07:44 AM
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I am obnoxiously charmed by the finger guns. But I’m tired so I might actually respond to that wall of text tomorrow, we’ll see.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 07:38 AM
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Jesus Christ.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 07:32 AM
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There are.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 07:31 AM
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Are you just following me around all the threads I’ve posted in today?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 07:23 AM
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Wow jeez, I guess my life experience is completely wrong because of a bunch of stuff cherry picked off the internet. I worked basically for free for several years helpings with men’s issues, and I was hardly the only woman in the program. I see empathy in real life every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 07:22 AM
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Lol yeah one example really makes your point that it’s “most” 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 06:15 AM
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I have to disagree that most women lack empathy towards men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 03:52 AM
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Lol at “the fabled NAWALT”. I get the impression that guys who think all women are “like that” genuinely don’t know a lot of women and are getting this impression mostly from the internet and a few bad personal experiences. Most women don’t cheat. Most women aren’t rubbing their hands together as they gleefully plan to “divorce rape” their husbands. Most women are completely normal and aren’t “like that”. The women who are are a niche minority, but they tend to be loud and attractive so they att…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 02:47 AM
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This isn’t up for debate. If you want further clarification take it to modmail.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 10:42 PM
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It was both.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 10:17 PM
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Don’t circlejerk.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 09:01 PM
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I have lost count of the number of times you’ve corrected people about this prenup misconception. It’s getting to the point where I’m half tempted to suggest putting it in the sub rules lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 08:59 PM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 07:01 PM
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Can I take a wild guess and ask if you’re a Ben Shapiro fan?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 06:54 PM
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So you recognize that it’s useful to have a word to differentiate trans and cis, but only want to use trans? The alternative is calling non trans people “normal” and I’m sorry, but we’re past that as a society. There needs a be a different word other than normal, and cis is perfect because it already existed in various sciences as “opposite to trans”. Everyone does not know that when you say “woman” you’re specifically talking about non trans women, not in every situation though I guess that’s h…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 06:45 PM
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Who has been arrested? Also, do you think preventing school faculty and employers from verbally berating and bullying their students/subordinates is a violation of free speech? Do you believe people in a position of power have a right to create a hostile environment for people they’re responsible for?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 06:31 PM
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👍
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 06:29 PM
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Are you actually saying trans people are a naturally occurring mistake?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 06:28 PM
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Tranny is a slur, I don’t know if you know that or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 06:21 PM
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That’s your opinion. If you weren’t in the “default” category I wonder if you’d feel differntly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 06:20 PM
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Invoking MLK to tear down trans people. Amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 06:02 PM
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Being pro trans or pro whatever other stances I’ve held throughout my life has not often put me in the majority and has often not had the law on my side. Trans acceptance and legal protection is very new, though I’ve held my views for over a decade, closer to two now that I’m thinking about it. I was lucky enough to have trans friends in the 90s, before any of this was considered acceptable or approaching mainstream. What you’re describing is how feminists have been treated historically, and are…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 05:57 PM
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Oh you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 05:15 PM
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Here. Just Google “are TERFs right wing” or something similar. There’s a lot out there on the subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 05:06 PM
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Probably because you don’t hang out in a lot of left wing feminist spaces? I have no idea, it’s not a new concept at all in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 05:04 PM
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When you’re constantly on the receiving end of it you adapt and get used to it. BiggerD demonstrates how it feels to be on the receiving end of such language and surprise, they don’t like it. I am told daily that I’m part of an inherently evil, sexist cabal that hates men and wants to destroy society. It’s part and parcel to participating here. It’s funny to me when RP types can dish out but can’t take it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 05:01 PM
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Agreed. Mark the calendar, we shall commerate this day.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 04:54 PM
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Keep fighting the good fight BiggerD. I’ve said it before, but you have infinitely more patience than I do and I don’t know how you do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 04:47 PM
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I’ve asked you to stop talking to me about this before, and I just told you I’m not going further on this with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 04:27 PM
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Not doing this, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 04:23 PM
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You are making an awful lot of assumptions about how I think and act right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 04:13 PM
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You can’t just call someone a feminist and expect that to mean the same thing to every person, because everyone’s definition is different, which is what I told you last time and you spun off into nonsense about how feminism is a turtle or whatever ridiculous thing you said. This is why people like me like to get more specific. I’m not just a feminist, I’m an intersectional left wing feminist. Considering there are trans hating right wing feminists, I consider the blanket term feminist practicall…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 04:11 PM
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You think someone in a position of power intentionally misgendering someone repeatedly isn’t intimidation?? Lol okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 04:07 PM
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I believe that they believe they’re feminist. But they’re not intersectional feminists, which is the kind of feminist I am, and what I wish more people were. This is as far as I’m going on this subject with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 04:05 PM
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Weird, I was right about interracial couples and gay marriage...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 04:03 PM
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Just stop replying if you’re bored.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 03:55 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 03:55 PM
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TERFs are firmly right wing, especially lately. No one else wants anything to do with them, and they’ve been allying themselves with the alt right and tying anti-trans issues into their existing conspiracies. The scary Jews are trying to make everyone trans and gay and Muslim and atheist because they hate Western society or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 03:53 PM
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Transwomen aren’t men, so it is harassment. Free speech is not tantamount to bullying people and using words to describe them that they have specifically asked you not to use. If I’m a teacher or a boss and I call a black student or employee the n-word, even after they’ve repeatedly asked me to stop, it is not a fReE SpEeCh issue at that point, it’s harassment, it’s me intentionally using hurtful language to make someone feel shitty, out of hate. I guess we disagree on whether or not that should…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 03:50 PM
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You used no preceding logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 03:46 PM
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In the future, if you want to have a serious discussion about trans issues, don’t mention attack helicopters. It carries a lot of negative baggage at this point and is almost guaranteed to shut down conversation. If you are interested in approaching things “logically”, don’t use memes that make you sound like an edgy teenager.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 03:45 PM
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I mean, you can get in the exact same level of legal trouble for harassing people for other issues, I don’t see the problem. Don’t bully people, don’t create hostile environments out of spite, it’s a shame that there needs to be a law in place but here we are. The fact that there have been no arrests though proves it was all hysteria. The anti-trans people know this, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 03:42 PM
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And now he’s rich from getting people freaked out over gender pronouns. If I were a less principled person I’d be tempted to cash in, it’s clearly very easy given the huge audience for anti-trans content.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 03:40 PM
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I think it’s funny that you think your principles are logical when you’re invoking the attack helicopter meme. If someone legally changes their name after marriage, it is socially accepted you call them by their new name out of respect for their new identity, even if you were comfortable with their previous name and maybe knew them for a long time pre-marriage. Your comfort does not outweigh respecting the way they want to be addressed. If it’s an accident that’s one thing and almost no one care…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 03:37 PM
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Trans people get killed for not disclosing their status until it’s too late, society is currently trying to find the appropriate balance of how to go about announcing such things.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 03:33 PM
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You can refuse, I think it just makes you incredibly rude and if this were real life I’d make a point to distance myself from you socially, same as if you casually used other intentionally offensive language.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 03:32 PM
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Jordan Peterson became famous because of fear mongering, yes. It’s been two years now since the Canadian law went into effect that he was allegedly so scared of. No one has been arrested, even though he made it sound like it would be happening right and left.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 03:31 PM
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People who put cis on their online profiles are doing it to show solidarity with the trans community. It’s an attempt to normalize listing your pronouns so that trans people don’t stick out so much when they do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 03:29 PM
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This is beyond ridiculous. No one wants to criminalize misgendering someone. The fact that you’re using the lazy attack helicopter meme tells me everything I need to know though, so I guess I’ll just end it here. Enjoy being on the wrong side of history I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 03:25 PM
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They pretty much are from where I’m standing. At my job people are allowed to declare their gender identify on their application. It is no longer culturally acceptable to intentionally misgender someone. Depending on which state we’re in, trans people are protected the same as any other marginalized class, and once Trump’s out I imagine it will also be protected at the federal level.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 03:19 PM
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I’m a left wing feminist. Why you’re lumping me in with right wing anti-trans feminists and suggesting the two things are remotely related continues to confuse me, but such is the nature of PPD I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 03:16 PM
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Ah and here you go again, “your side” and then you go on to describe beliefs I don’t even hold. You are absolutely not one of the most flexible people here, quite the opposite in my opinion. You consistently push back against almost everything I say, jumping in on threads where I wasn’t even talking to you to lump me in with “the blues” or “the left” or whatever nebulous enemy you’re railing against on a given day. If you wanted me to be more open to having good faith conversations with you you …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 03:14 PM
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I think that’s ultimately the end goal of trans acceptance, but what if it’s a situation that requires you to specify that you’re not talking about a trans person? What word do you use other than something like “normal”, which is alienating and rude?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 03:10 PM
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I don’t, which is why I asked. My guess isn’t particularly generous, which is why I asked for clarification. But okay, are you suggesting that by asking others to acknowledge your gender identify in polite conversation you’re forcing something on that person?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 03:09 PM
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If a man is this worried about this, he shouldn’t have sex with a woman unless he’s talked to her about what they would do in the event of an accidental pregnancy. Women do not have the luxury of plugging their ears and humming about the dangers of sex. Men need to be more logical about this and stop sticking their unwrapped dicks in strangers if they’re so worried.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 03:02 PM
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We clearly disagree about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 02:57 PM
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I don’t follow. Who is forcing who to accept what?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 02:56 PM
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You hope empathy and human decency is a phase? I certainly hope not. It’s funny, there was a thread on the front page yesterday asking today’s teachers what’s different about the current crop of young people and overwhelmingly the answer was that today’s kids and young adults are leagues kinder, less judgemental and more accepting of others than previous generations by a noticeable degree. It blows my mind that some people consider that to be a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 02:51 PM
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It’s doesn’t hold up to you, as you’ve made very clear to me over time. Which is why I’m no longer engaging with you about this particular topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 02:42 PM
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My type of feminism wants nothing to do with them. I don’t think anti-trans types have any place in a movement that’s supposed to be about acceptance.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 02:38 PM
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I have seen one or two clips that get linked of overweight women on super trashy daytime talk shows who are allegedly promoting a “healthy at every size” agenda. These clips are always a few years old, the women are people I’ve never heard of, the audience is never on their side, and it’s clearly just the modern version of the Jerry Springer freakshows of my childhood. But thanks to the internet, instead of those people being treated like the outliers they are, they get held up by anti-feminist …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 02:35 PM
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Why? What word should be used instead that isn’t pretentious?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 02:29 PM
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When trans acceptance started to become mainstream. It’s Latin and it literally means the opposite of trans. And it’s socially polite to have a word to use that isn’t something alienating like “normal” or “regular” or even worse “real”. Just like the term “straight” started to be used as opposite of gay. It continues to boggle my mind that it bothers people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 02:24 PM
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I hesitate to call GC types “feminist” but yes, like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 02:21 PM
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If it’s an actual relationship, I think it’s a messed up thing to do outside of abusive situations. That being said, I’ve also seen not calling after one meh date described as “ghosting” and seen people get bent out of shape about it, which I think is ridiculous. I’m assuming that’s not what happened in the linked example though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 06:44 AM
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This conversation didn’t happen in a vacuum, I’m almost positive I’ve explained my views on toxic masculinity to them before. If not to them specifically, I’ve spent what adds up to hours making good faith arguments about it over and over and over in this sub. I’m not really interested in doing it yet again with someone who has already proven to me that it’s a waste of my time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 06:35 AM
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Also, I didn’t say I’m not sitting on dick at all, just not toxically masculine dick. I didn’t say I “don’t need no man”. I sit on healthy, feminist dick all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 01:38 AM
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Neat.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 01:36 AM
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If you are differentiating me from “the others” why are you asking me to speak for “them”?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 01:30 AM
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I’m not really a fan of being talked at like I represent an entire group of people you hate that I don’t even act like so I guess I’m done talking to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 01:24 AM
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This sub has had maybe two genuine man-hating feminists in its existence over the years and I’m still not entirely sure they weren’t trolls. Again, strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 01:23 AM
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Well, on a different scale but, you get to preach to people who are in sexual poverty relative to you about how they should act, while sitting on the dicks of dudes who don't actually act that way. You're going to be criticized for that. You'll be fine. I am not “sitting on the dick” of toxically masculine men. This is an absurd strawman against a nebulous opposition in your head, not something I’ve ever espoused on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 12:58 AM
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Fancy soda machines break all the time. And fancy bartender machines won’t be able to make recommendations, invent new drinks customized to observances the customer doesn’t have the vocabulary to even describe or be able to be a shoulder to cry on and a nonjudgmental ear for strangers and wanderers. You are not giving the human element of the service industry enough credit, and I’m not just talking about the pretty female bartenders like you mentioned. I still get Facebook messages from old cust…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 11:31 PM
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I should have been more specific, but I had drug dealers in mind when I said sex work should she legalized and taxed like all vices. Legalize and tax drugs too, suddenly drug dealers are pharmacists.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 11:26 PM
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And a former bartender, I’m going to have to disagree. I think it’s a shame to look down on the working class like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 10:38 PM
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Robots can’t replicate a good server or bartender in a high volume restaurant worth the money. High school drop outs can also fix cars and create buildings, but I would never call such important blue collar work “dumdum”.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 10:33 PM
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I don’t think many sex workers would have a problem paying taxes if doing so wouldn’t put them in legal jeopardy by outing themselves as sex workers, or if they even knew they had to, which I imagine many are genuinely unaware. You don’t get a fucking packet in the mail when you start doing illegal sex work telling you how to properly make quarterly payments lol. This is pure mean spirited garbage. It is hurting the most vulnerable people in a shady, shitty industry, and the implication that the…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 10:29 PM
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You think restaurant employees are unskilled dumdum labor?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 10:22 PM
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You’re totally right about that one. I got called out on that a few months ago and dug into it and couldn’t find any examples of TRP using LMR “the bad way” for at least the past two years. I concede at this point that’s a misrepresentation of the RP stance. I have no problem with guys taking a no seriously and leaving.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 10:21 PM
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How?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 09:38 PM
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Fun fact, David Wu the guy behind it has been busted soliciting nudes from underage girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 09:36 PM
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I thinks it’s disgusting. Sex workers have it hard enough as it is. Also, the guy behind it, David Wu is a pedophile, so that’s cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 09:32 PM
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From where I’m standing, this is the real question. Conversation about toxic masculinity is almost impossible in this sub because so many people refuse to move past their dislike of the name and the false conclusions drawn from said name.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 09:21 PM
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It came out in the comments. I’ll do some digging this afternoon after my meeting but I’m almost positive it came out that he was turning her down too. I agree that sex is very important and that keeping your partner satisfied is a matter of respect in a healthy relationship. But his communication skills are/were in the toilet and it was impossibly immature of him to sabotage her business trip like he did. I’d be very curious to hear an update on their situation, though I doubt we’ll get one.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 03:32 PM
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If I’m not mistaken, wasn’t she willing to have sex with him at a certain time but he refused? It was either the morning or night I don’t remember, but she was willing to fuck him as long as it didn’t mess with her sleep schedule and that wasn’t good enough for him, he wanted things entirely on his terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 03:19 PM
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Men care plenty about height, try being a tall woman lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 06:52 PM
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You're the kind of guy to ask the question you typed as the title of this post, which is literally all I know about you. And as I bisexual woman, it's just the same old tired stigma I've seen spouted about bisexual women my entire adult life. You're claiming that you don't see many "real" lesbians. Knowing what little I know about you, I speculated that maybe they're avoiding you, as that attitude is really obnoxious to the LGBT community.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 05:11 PM
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I think most men realize porn isn't realistic. But every so often I see comments around Reddit (not even necessarily in PPD) where circlejerks form about men bemoaning women who don't do sex "correctly", as in perform like pornstars. The specific example that comes to mind was a thread about doggystyle, where men were complaining that the women they'd actually had sex with would arch their back up, and how that isn't as sexy as when they arch it down and stick their butts up. Women in the thread…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 05:07 PM
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Yeah, in those kinds of situations it's projection. They're the shallow ones, only approaching you because of your looks. If you're shallow for rejecting them on looks alone, they're just as shallow for selecting you that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 04:58 PM
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I think everyone probably comes off as shallow to at least some people. I'm sure some people I don't care about think I'm shallow for whatever reason. The people who I care about and whose opinion I respect seem to think I'm genuine, which is what I'm going for. Your question C is hella biased and leading, by the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 04:53 PM
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“I’m not a historian, but here’s a bunch of stuff that just feel like facts to me.”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 02:49 PM
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So the other women who lived to old age and have supportive families who can afford to put them in a retirement home all also had privileged lives. You don’t say.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 02:46 PM
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And the US. The Super Bowl is a big weekend for trafficking every year.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 02:44 PM
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Most women are like that? I doubt that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 02:41 PM
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Maybe you don’t interact with that many “actual” lesbians because they don’t hang out with guys like you. As an actual bisexual woman, this claim of yours is tired and annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 02:34 PM
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Honestly, the worst treatment I’ve ever received as a bisexual woman was from a lesbian co-worker who felt the need to “force me to pick a side”. Very disappointing coming from within the community.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 02:32 PM
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Then you’re proving my point lol. That people who haven’t read the books are the ones pushing a narrative that isn’t actually in the books, just like what you’re doing in these comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 11:40 PM
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No shit it has little to do with real life lol. Again, I don’t think you understand what my post was about.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 08:15 PM
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Not all men stop when they’re told no. You realize that, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 07:33 PM
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He gave up his status as an exciting, unmarried, available billionaire under 30. And he gave up his status as a “Dom” which was a huge part of his identity. I think he also stands up to his controlling mother to defend Ana if I’m not mistaken. He gave up not being a father, which was a position he felt very strongly about before he was basically forced into it. Yes, he takes social hits for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 07:31 PM
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This is one of the most dismissive things I’ve read here and that’s saying a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 07:28 PM
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So they took no for an answer every time? I genuinely wonder what that’s like.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 07:28 PM
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Would you like it if an undesirable woman was “bold” with you? How about a man? What if some guy finds you attractive and puts his hands on you? Should he be allowed to do that without consequences?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 06:48 PM
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So again, is it RP 101 that a woman would prefer a man with status give it all up thanks to the power of her love and her being right about where there relationship should go? Does it advise men to settle down before 30 and cave on issues like pregnancy, and whether or not his wife takes his name?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 06:44 PM
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The fictional book is also wildly popular with women and has clearly touched on something. People who haven’t read the books assume what it touched on is the bondage but it’s not. Which is what my whole post is actually about lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 06:21 PM
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They sure can. Are you calling me a liar?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 06:13 PM
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It depends on the woman. 50SOG is complicated because she doesn’t chose to go after a high status man, she finds herself meeting him via circumstances out of her control, after which he aggressively and unrelentingly goes after her. She is overwhelmed by the attention. She is a virgin and has never had any man pay attention to her before. But what she likes the most about him is how much he seems to actually care her. She likes that part, and she makes it very clear throughout the series that sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 05:48 PM
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Hardly. Just actually being a woman and knowing that isn’t why I make fashion choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 05:38 PM
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Well adjusted women don’t try to change a man in real life. Women who aren’t well adjusted are the ones who actually try to do it. But even well adjusted women who wouldn’t actually try to live it out might still fantasize about changing a man into an ideal partner for her, for the same reason men will fantasize about scenarios they wouldn’t actually do in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 05:37 PM
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If men actually believe this it explains a lot lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 03:59 PM
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Yes, changing a man is a fantasy a lot of women have. It’s why women will stay with shitty men. There is a belief deep down that her love and nurturing nature will be enough for him to see the light, to convince him to want to change for her, because he feels she is worth it. That is the plot of 50 Shades.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 03:54 PM
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Have you read the actual books themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 03:17 PM
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And yet other men who did read the book are all over this thread agreeing with me and my interpretation. Weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 03:15 PM
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Your unwillingness to quote the actual text is telling. I think I’m done here. Nowhere in the books does she consider going after him for his money a challenge, that didn’t happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 03:13 PM
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It’s not for or about men. Man can interpret it, but from my conversation with you about it it either went way over your head or didn’t actually read it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 03:11 PM
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You are missing the forrest for the trees. I have not made any arguments that a nonrich guy would work interchangbly in 50SOG. I specifically mention that she is attracted to taming such a man multiple times. But my point, which I think you are missing, is that she wants to change him, and the fact that she is able to is get him to is the payoff for the reader. Telling me “Well she wouldn’t do that for someone working at Walmart!” doesn’t challenge anything I said. No, of course she wouldn’t, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 03:09 PM
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There is no male perspective in 50SOG. It was written by a woman about a woman for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 03:06 PM
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It’s written in the first person perspective. The reader literally reads Ana’s thoughts. Nowhere in any of the books does she lust after him for his money, she repeatedly tells the reader she wishes he was more down to earth. Her devotion to him is unquestioning, there is no pending divorce that you seem to feel is inevitable between them. So if you say you actually read the books and your takeaway was the exact opposite of what I described in my comments and my post, I can only assume you’re ei…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 03:03 PM
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👍
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 02:43 PM
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I’m saying that being physically attractive is a given in a fantasy. Nowhere in my super longass post did I make the claim that his appearance and status doesn’t play a part in her attraction to him. But that’s not the meat of the fantasy. I believe I called it the window dressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 02:34 PM
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His entire post is crticicizing her, as are the vast majority of the comments. Young people with low self esteeem have difficulty leaving partners who treat them poorly, because they’re more scared of being alone than maintaining the shittty status quo, regardless of gender. This isn’t “why don’t men criticize women” because women do the exact same shit, they stay with super shitty dudes who to everyone observing the situation can tell what’s going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 02:32 PM
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I wholeheartedly agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 02:25 PM
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You haven’t read the books.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 02:21 PM
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Yes, exactly. A nightmare scenario where obviously both men and women would be fighting for their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 02:18 PM
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Have you had sex before? I don’t think I’ve ever heard a man complain about a wet, aroused vagina in my entire life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 02:12 PM
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No she didn’t chose him, I’m now more convinced than ever you haven’t read the story. He chose her. It’s the entire plot of the first book.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 02:10 PM
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I don’t think you do, so here we are lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 02:09 PM
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Why would anyone regardless of gender cast an unattractive person in their fantasy?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 02:08 PM
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Hi, we’re best friends now
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 03:50 AM
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😍😍😍
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 03:46 AM
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Dude, just stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 03:30 AM
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I’m not, but since it seems like you’re just trying to needle me, I’m not going to waste more time on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 03:27 AM
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You have misunderstood my original comment and I’m not really sure why you’re splitting hairs with me about something entirely hypothetical.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 03:25 AM
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I’m not talking about a bill or conscription by the government. I’m talking about an actual nightmare scenario where there are enemy troops on the American mainland. I doubt there would be time or resources for anything so formal as conscription or training. People would be locking themselves in their houses and fighting for their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 03:19 AM
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Thank you! 👊
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 03:17 AM
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My point is that I only “support the draft” in the sense that both men and women should defend themselves if their lives are threatened. That isn’t “the draft” though. I don’t think anyone should have to register.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 03:05 AM
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I don’t think you understand what I mean by nightmare scenario. Vietnam was not a nightmare scenario in the way that I’m talking about. There will never be another draft unless an army literally invades the US. I wouldn’t even call it a draft at that point, I would call it literally the only option or we’re all gonna die. But if you want to misconstrue that into mislabeling me as supporting the draft as we currently understand it, whatever. I think anyone else reading this thread will understand…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 03:01 AM
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I don’t think anyone should have to register, I do not support it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 02:45 AM
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I support an egalitarian nightmare scenario if said nightmare scenario is the only outcome. But I don’t think it would happen, so it’s moot. I think u/emoryupton could do a better job than me explaining it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 02:34 AM
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Thank you. And I agree that the real shame is that 50SOG could have been amazing. And it is not lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 02:31 AM
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I’m sure it does! There’s a YA series that I think also got a tv show by Cassandra Claire that was originally a Hermione/Draco Harry Potter story.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 02:29 AM
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I’m almost positive I was a socially awkward horny nun in a past life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 02:26 AM
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So you’re just talking about whatever you feel like talking about, not my post and are just making stuff up about a book you haven’t read. Cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 01:52 AM
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No you don’t, at all. I’m assuming you’re trolling me at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 01:51 AM
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I don’t support the draft period, but in the case of such an emergency that would actually demand one in this day and age, it should be both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 01:32 AM
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Why do you not think I would enjoy having sex with an enthusiastic partner who I want to have sex with? I mean, that’s what a “rape” fantasy is after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 01:11 AM
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No it isn’t, the whole fucking plot is about her convincing him not to want BDSM with her. Have you read the books? Did you even read my post? I explain all of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 01:01 AM
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As those under the automod have already said, it’s largely symbolic, a way for the state government to make their position clear to their constituents. It is a show of solidarity. It also makes things harder to be rolled back in the future, should someone attempt to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 12:52 AM
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What part of plot leads you to believe she considers herself his fucktoy? Also, what part of the story gives you the impression she intends to move on to a “bigger fish”?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 12:44 AM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 12:43 AM
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She’s not his fucktoy, that’s kind of my point. Over the course of the books she changes his attitude towards sex and love. Also I don’t believe I made the claim that I was trying to make women sound “better”. My post is about people making uneducated statements about the series because they haven’t read the books.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 12:12 AM
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As someone who actually has “rape” fantasies, no, it’s not actually about rape. I feel like this has been explained many times in PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 11:51 PM
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Perfect response. Co-signing that fantasy rape is nothing like, and even the exact opposite of real rape. Even the people who do have, say, a humiliation/shame fetish usually still want to experience such a thing in a controlled environment. No one actually wants to be actually raped by a gross hobo or even just someone being genuinely disrespectful.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 10:40 PM
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If you haven’t read the story, you don’t even truly understand what they’re fans of. Which is actually the entire point of my post you didn’t read either.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 10:20 PM
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Have you read all three books?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 10:13 PM
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Also, in addition to not reading my post, I can tell you haven’t read the books. Ana doesn’t have tattoos, doesn’t do drugs and isn’t a slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 10:12 PM
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Please read my whole post, your commentary doesn’t apply to what I actually said. Or don’t I mean whatever, but specifically telling me you didn’t read my post and then wanting to argue about stuff I didn’t actually say and points I didn’t actually make is pretty rude.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 10:08 PM
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Can you quote me to any part of the books that supports that? When does she, in her detailed and ongoing monologue in which we learn all of her inner thoughts and motivations, think about wanting to be with Christian for his money?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 10:05 PM
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I’m not getting the impression you actually read the books if you see Ana as a golddigger. Christian specifically likes her because she isn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 03:37 PM
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Have you actually read all three books?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 03:16 PM
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Yeah he’s rich, but the story goes out of its way to show Ana isn’t a gold digger. She is happy in her modest lifestyle when the story starts. His wealth and fame makes her uncomfortable and all throughout the story she finds herself wishing he was more normal and down to earth. He’s exciting and it’s flattering, but she would ultimately be fine eating cold pizza with him in pajamas on an old couch. He is the one who insists on flaunting his wealth around, but she isn’t impressed in the way he a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 02:28 PM
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Christian is not even more powerful than Ana. She gets fed up with him and tries to leave him at the end of the first book and he spends half the second trying to beg her to come back to him. She does on the condition the bondage gets toned down, which he caves on. He caves on everything, including her not immediately taking his name after marriage, which she only reluctantly does after he has an insecure breakdown about it. His insecurity is the main running conflict throughout all three books,…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 02:10 PM
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His commitment, his loyalty, his eventual rejection of being all the fun stuff that TRP tells men to be at her request. Christian follows the exact opposite of RP advice. He has oneitis, he tells her all his feelings, he’s genuinely loyal, he gets married before 30 and they immediately have a kid. I think you’re missing my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 01:33 PM
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Well yeah, cause it isn’t actually rape then, nor was the fantasy ever actually about rape in the first place. It’s about wanting to feel really desired by a specific guy who she is already into. He’s not even really seducing her because she’s preselected him to play that her role in her fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 12:00 PM
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If I made it sound like I thought the bondage flavoring was meaningless, that was not my intention. Just that it is flavoring. It's not a story about real BDSM, which I think most people can agree on, including you and I. It's rather a boring person's version of it, which is certainly titillating to someone super vanilla and a big plus, but it's still a vehicle to the romance, which judging by the way they directed the movies is the real meat. His desire to be dominant is a straight up character…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 06:52 AM
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If the whole story was only the first book, I would agree with you. By the end of the story though my takeaway is that he isn't really dominant at all, and what Ana wants from him most of all is genuine vulnerability. By the third book, the bondage aspect is no longer the focus of the story, not by a long shot. I'm realizing that I didn't do a good enough job expressing that yes, women are turned on by the bondage-y stuff. But my hypothesis is that the biggest fans of the book are like the autho…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 06:20 AM
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I agree that most women don't want to actually be treated like they do in their fantasies, that's certainly true for me. I don't actually want to be a stripper and wouldn't ever actually fuck my boss, but I've certainly fantasized about such things. But I also don't think it's too much of a stretch that this particular fantasy (rich guys falls in love with her and marries her and buys her a house) is one that many of the women reading it would be okay with, bad BDSM parts aside haha
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 05:18 AM
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There was a part of me that wanted to make the spoiler warning bigger, but I honestly didn't think anyone would care. I kind of assumed that anyone who was interested in the books/movie would have sought them out by now lol. They're not very good, in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 04:48 AM
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As I understand it, Chad doesn't settle down, he fucks new young girls every weekend forever, at least into his 40s. Christian is like 27 and marries her after knowing her for maybe a year lol. And he has zero desire to cheat on her, that is not even a question in the books. She gets jealous at one point that he talks to an ex, but it's all just a biiiig misunderstanding and they make up.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 04:44 AM
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But doesn't Christian go completely against the RP narrative? TRP claims that women aren't attracted to men who cry, or open up, certainly not men who admit to being victims of sexual assault, even if they're in denial about it. How is that Chad?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 04:38 AM
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I put it in bold and caps!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 04:35 AM
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That's where I start, but my post builds towards The bondage stuff is just the backdrop, merely the flavoring on top of this much deeper, larger, overarching female fantasy. By the third book/movie it's more of a background element than a driving part of the plot. I'm not saying women don't get off on the dominant elements, but there are lots of books out there with those themes. What makes this particular story stand out is how she forces a change in him, and gets him to lighten up a bit and se…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 04:33 AM
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You would absolutely hate it!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 04:14 AM
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He starts as the untouchable alpha, but as the rest of that sentence goes on to finish saying, the fantasy isn't that he is an alpha, it's that in spite of that, he ceases his fun alpha lifestyle to settle down with her and her alone. And in the process of this happening, it turns out much of his cockiness and bravado was actually a front hiding deep, unresolved pain, which she helps him work through. She fixes him, that is the fantasy, of course he's going to also look like "Chad", but it's way…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 04:12 AM
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I do, quite vocally.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 04:08 AM
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I personally don't either, but having spent many years in online fandoms, there are a lot of lonely women out there who do get off on that sort of fantasy, and they're the target audience.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 04:05 AM
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Ah, that scene. As I addressed in my post, part of the problem with 50SOG is that it was written for an audience (hardcore Twilight fans) who read it with implied consent between the characters. This is why people like me have heavily criticized it, because when you change the names and put it out into the world, it loses that context. That scene is written with the understanding that the reader is imagining herself as Ana, and the reader wants it to happen. So it's not rape, it's a ravishment f…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 04:03 AM
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She gets marriage and a family from him, and she gets him to compromise with the bondage stuff. When does he rape her?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 03:58 AM
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I guess it depends on your definition of Chad. Does Chad break down and cry about his sexual trauma? Does Chad go back on saying he'll never commit and settle down and have kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 03:57 AM
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It's RP 101 that 50SOG isn't actually about bondage, it's about women wanting and getting commitment?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 03:55 AM
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For sure. The author who wrote 50SOG didn’t know a damn thing about BDSM other than a vague aesthetic. You might already know this, but to anyone who doesn’t, 50SOG was a Twilight AU fanfic. Ana was Bella, Christian was Edward and Ana’s vaguely ethnic friend whose name I don’t remember was Jacob, the Other Guy Who Likes Her But Never Stood a Chance. Not comparing them because they’re equally trite either, it was literally Twilight fanfiction and a publisher approached the author and she changed …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 01:37 AM
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50 Shades is ultimately about male submission, that’s why women like. Anastasia is in charge.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/18 09:47 PM
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lol at “somehow”, men certainly like women in wet clothing, no? Hot person + wet clothes = even hotter person For your second example, I’m also a little confused by your confusion. Does a suggestive phrase need to have a swear word in it to be sexual? What isn’t hot about an attractive man having his way with someone? I don’t really consider either of those examples to be non-sexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/18 09:46 PM
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That poor woman ☹️
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 01:07 PM
2

My personal approach is to put out the good I want to see in the world. No, it might not benefit me directly, but I have teenaged nieces and the world has come so far since I was their age, and I’m still only in my 30s. It was a regularly repeated statement when I was a kid that there would never be a female president, and that women made bad politicians in general because “they get so crazy on their periods, who knows what they might end up doing”. Now there are many female heads of state, half…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 12:35 PM
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This is why gender roles are problematic. Of course men can be nurturing and a good SAHP, and of course women can, an example from my life, use a computer without breaking it. I had a teacher literally scream “No!” and run across the room to stop me from using a computer unsupervised because he was positive I’d mess something up in some way, even though I probably knew more about the editing program I was trying to use than anyone else in the class. But “his wife always messed things up” on his …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 12:14 PM
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THANK YOU Lol forever at all the people (sure women do it too but this is about guys right now) who look at themselves in the mirror and declare what their own hotness is. No, sorry. I’m all for body positivity and self-confidence and all that BUT if you’re gonna be the kind of guy to rank everyone on a 1-10 scale and demand the world function fairly and accordingly, you do not get to decide what your own score is. The rest of the world does. “Hey I’m a solid 6, why I only pull 2s?” Spoiler, you…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 12:07 PM
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This was more when I was younger, I’m happy now as a woman. When I was a teenager my first two “boyfriends” turned out to be gay, I thought I was giving off man energy or something or that I might be trans, even though I didn’t have that term to use in the 90s in my part of the country. Other than that, it was just the way I saw my male peers being treated. Teachers would automatically trust the boys competency whereas it felt like I was always having to prove myself. This continued into the wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 12:00 PM
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There have been times in my life where I’ve felt things would better or easier or even that I’d be happier if I were a man, but ultimately no. At this point in my life I’m very at peace with who I am and how I exist in the world, I wouldn’t change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 11:52 AM
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Funny, I feel the same way about if I were a man instead. I guess the grass is always greener.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 11:49 AM
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raises hand As someone apparently being on the cusp of an “older” woman, it’s still super annoying 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 11:45 AM
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Your read of her comments is way off. It’s not that anyone is saying this is the only way people should meet and date, just that it happens all the time naturally anyway. I’m not against meeting new people, but I’m way more likely to give a guy a chance and/or trust him faster if I know he’s already friends with a friend of mine as opposed to a complete stranger.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 10:10 PM
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I went without for about two years once. I wasn’t in a good place for a relationship and would rather masturbate than risk having bad sex with randos.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 02:18 PM
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Oh my god literally no one cares if you want to fuck a robot. Every time someone brings this is up it’s like y’all are desperate to argue with someone who is clutching their pearls and sniveling at the thought of terrible sex robots making women’s vaginas less special and powerful. I’m sorry but that argument doesn’t exist, literally no one cares, just fuck robots. Spoiler, women will be fucking them too. This women certainly will be anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 02:07 PM
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That is some spectacular linguistic prose to avoid the fact that no fewer than two new socialists will be sworn into Congress this new session, which strongly implies that... yes, the Democrats are cool with socialism. I’m not avoiding anything, as I said this: Only in these most recent midterms did we see some actual real progressives win races, and none of them have been sworn in yet. The Democrats are beginning to embrace socialism now, not two years ago in 2016, and not when Obama ultimately…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 02:01 PM
2

This post is like a soothing bath bomb, thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 03:18 PM
2

Actually, the Democratic party elected Hillary as their nominee, not Bernie, who only registered as a Democrat to run for president. Bernie is also the only socialist currently sworn into Congress, and has been the lone outlier for decades. If by “y’all” you mean the DNC, no, “we” did not run a socialist, a socialist ran himself and lost the primary. My point though, which I think you missed, is that I’m farther to the left than the mainstream Democratic Party and arguably even Bernie these days…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 03:09 PM
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Yes, it’s vague and confusing. You seem to be lumping everything you don’t like together and are saying it’s all the same and as such it makes one mentally ill, and that older people would recognize it as such. You didn’t say anything in your post differentiating the “good” from the “bad” feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 12:57 PM
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Another way is to imagine an older married couple of white descent with successful biological children of both genders. If either of the parents think that what you just showed them is mentally ill then it's part of the femosphere. This is absurd, there are plenty of older people who don’t consider feminism or being trans or any of that a mental illness. What an inaccurate blanket statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 11:42 AM
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Does the internet count? Because yes, all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 11:38 AM
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Lol! No dude, mainstream American Democrats are corporation loving capitalist shills, how in any way is that far left? Words have meanings and Democrats have come to mean a conveniently vague “people I don’t like” to a certain segment of the USA, but that doesn’t make them leftists. Let me know when an elected Democrat in America calls to abolish the state or seize the means of production, not just a bogeyman that Fox News viewers are afraid will manifest.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 11:17 AM
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Not in my experience with dating women, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 05:08 AM
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Part of the problem is people who think the American Democratic party is an actual example of real far left politics, when it fact our left is the rest of the world’s center-right. I didn’t even know there was a meaningful difference between liberal and progressive until a few years ago, it all gets lumped together and demonized wholesale.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 10:22 PM
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We actually did for a few years, the weekly off-topic post was the incel zone. Over time thought interest in it faded and now the topic changes every week. Any time the sub starts to wonder too loudly why incel stuff is banned, it’s usually about to be purge week, and by the time that’s over the community is begging for the ban to go back up lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 10:18 PM
2

Seriously. The opioid crisis is overwhelmingly affecting conversative white men in red states.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 10:13 PM
2

I think I’m the most leftist person in here at the moment. And if I weren’t a mod and felt a sense of responsibility to the community, I don’t know if I would still be here. It always makes me laugh when I read people saying this place skews left, it does not, 99% of the posts here would never see the light of day in a majority left-leaning sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 10:08 PM
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Be as open and communicative as possible. Don’t expect commitment from a stranger. Avoid “player” types.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 10:04 PM
3

This is not my experience. I once dated a guy for a year before we had sex. Granted it wasn’t normal circumstances, but it was still a year of no sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 09:51 PM
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Feminist don’t “want to destroy all things male” holy hyperbole Batman
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 01:52 AM
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There is not a direct correlation between the way women want to be treated by everyone and men getting laid. Just because I don’t want to be treated in a shitty way by men doesn’t also mean I now have an obligation to help that dude get laid. You’re basically asking feminists to teach men help to help them pester other women for sex in exchange for not pestering them for sex. Surely you can understand how unappealing a “deal” that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 01:50 AM
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I don’t even know where to begin unpacking that lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 04:22 PM
3

This is really vague. How do you define “best deal”?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 04:10 PM
3

Has that question actually been asked of BPW in good faith? Edit: Ah, I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 04:08 PM
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By asking women a question in bad faith. It seems pretty clear that you’re asking that question to get specific answers for a point you want to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 02:41 PM
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I mean, I’ve had men spell it out for me with words that they didn’t like me being forward. Obviously I wasn’t compatible with those guys and I did ultimately “next” them, but it wasn’t just my interpretation of events. One guy in particular literally said “I like the chase, I lose interest if I don’t get to chase her a little bit.”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 02:31 PM
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There’s nothing good faith about that weird post you want to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 02:18 PM
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Sure. But I still think it’s phrased in an entitled, negative way.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 01:42 PM
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Put “worried about pregnancy” at the top of the list instead of the bottom and that’s more accurate for me. Until you have the ability to get pregnant, you will never understand the precaution women have over it. I’ve never liked the term “gatekeeper to sex” because it puts this negative spin on the shocking idea that women are allowed to chose who they have sex with. Like sex is some kind of commodity or amusement park and we are merely the conduit to this other, seperate thing. Not all guys tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 12:53 PM
1

That’s not always been my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 12:02 PM
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I’ve come to understand that when done correctly, “playing hard to get” is really just demonstrating that you’re capable of social grace and self-control. Sure I might want to climb the hot interesting guy I just met but can absolutely tell I’d like to have sex with right then and there, but this guys seems cool and I don’t want to make a bad first impression. Being super forward with a guy, even if it’s “honest”, can also come off as crazy/desperate/reckless to a mature guy with standards, yann…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/18 11:06 PM
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Not everyone agrees that an ambivalent partner who doesn’t really care whether you succeed or fail is the “better deal”.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/18 04:39 PM
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He was criticized because he implied false rape allegations are some kind of new normal and something likely to happen to him. It was implying a significant amount of MeToo stories were fake. It missed the point of what women are trying to talk about so hard it was insulting. It also leaves one wondering what the dudes style of flirting is if he’s so worried.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/18 12:30 PM
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On a real first date, no. If an actual stranger wanted to “just hang out” I would probably want it to be a group setting, so possibly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/18 10:28 PM
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It’s still less than 50% women, I don’t see what’s the big deal. It should be close to 50/50 anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/18 07:56 PM
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He has heavily suggested we would have dated, we’re both coupled off but he’s made comments about “how shallow he was back then” and has rhetorically asked why we’ve never been a couple over the years, when he knows damn well I had a huge crush on him. The kids were his social circle, we were in band class together and when I overheard the other boys teasing him, I could see who they were and it was his friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/18 07:51 PM
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When I was in the 8th grade, I had a crush on a boy who sat behind me in class, who was also one of my best friends. He was popular and good looking but also smart and talented. I was weird and tall and none of the guys wanted to date me, but this guy and I were nerds together about the books we liked and music and such. Anyways, I asked him out to the 8th grade formal and he turned me down, but he also said that he was turning everyone down (lots of girls were asking him) and that he’d still ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/18 11:45 AM
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Lots of women love to be alone, especially quiet academic types. I have a shit ton of introverted, nerdy, nature-loving, tea drinking friends who mostly roll solo and are in love with books, not men. Here’s a hint, you’ve never met most of these women because they like to be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/18 10:32 AM
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Can’t disagree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/18 08:29 PM
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In the low income community? It wouldn’t surprise me. I think single motherhood is actually down since the 90s though, waaay down in the states with better women’s health services.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/18 03:14 PM
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What excites me about politics right now, is that some non-American leftist rhetoric is worming it’s way into the Democratic Party and challenging the tradional neo-liberal pro-capitalist status quo, and we might see a much bigger push towards worker’s rights and ethical wages in the coming years. The current late stage capitalist system is unsustainable, the poorer and more desperate people get, the worst society will deteriorate. We need to appropriately tax not even so much wealthy individual…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/18 03:08 PM
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What? Poor people have always rolled like that, including during the 50s. But now birth control is available and it doesn’t have to be that way. Men would rather have a few minutes of condomless sex than rest assured they were doing their best to prevent a pregnancy by using one.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/18 02:52 PM
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For women to learn to vet better and fix things, it starts with education. Girls and boys need comprehensive sex ed that’s designed to help not try to scare or worse lie to them in an attempt to push abstinence. It’s gotten better (still far from perfect) for girls when it comes to teaching about contraceptives, but the system is failing boys hard. Not only do they not know jack about birth control, I’ve met adult men who don’t know women pee and bleed out of different holes. For the record I’m …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/18 02:47 PM
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Who would have thought people don't like to be forced to do things they've clearly said they don't want to be a part of; including being a parent. That’s all fine and dandy before a pregnancy occurs, which is why I’m constantly shocked to hear that the guys who get the most upset about childcare payments and parental responsibilities also are straight up lackadaisical with their reproductive accountability. I used to work in restaurants and had a lot of working class, townie style, blue collar f…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/18 01:50 PM
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Loki and Snape are both examples of the same trope, but neither are adorably clueless like the OP asks. Loki and Snape are both brooding artist types, long black hair, more smart than strong, both dealt a shitty hand, bullied in childhood, both desperately need someone who’ll take their side for once and give them a hug.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/18 10:14 AM
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Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/18 05:55 PM
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That’s why compatibility is important, my partner doesn’t consider it a demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/18 05:41 PM
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I’m not arguing against why I feel attraction, I’m saying I don’t feel it for different types of guys throughout the month, depending on whether I’m ovulating. And I can tell when I’m ovulating. I would notice that. Wouldn’t you notice if every single month of your life at the same time you suddenly lost attraction to one type of girl and were suddenly way into another? Consistently?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/18 03:28 PM
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They’re not just radfems they’re TERFs (trans exclusionary radical feminists, basically conservative feminists), and they’re the meanest, most legit anti-male of all flavors of feminists. In the future I wouldn’t bother so much trying to olive branch with that crowd, personally. I say this as a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/18 10:53 AM
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I’d still notice being attracted to a different type of guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/18 11:50 PM
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I mean, do you. Personally I find it disrespectful and wouldn’t date a guy who tuned me out like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/18 10:50 PM
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You prefer not to have healthy, open conversation?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/18 10:32 PM
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Of course, are you only allowed to complain if the person you’re talking to can fix the problem? Am I only allowed to tell a doctor my feet hurt?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/18 10:31 PM
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One where each person is happy with the state of things. Where communication is healthy and open. If she can’t complain to you, that’s a breakdown of commiucation. I wouldn’t stay with a man who ignored my complaints.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/18 10:07 PM
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If you’re ignoring her when she’s complaining, I don’t see how it could be a good relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/18 09:55 PM
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But it does have to do with the bogus claim that women are attracted to “alpha” men they might not otherwise be when they ovulate or whatever the theory was this post is referencing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/18 09:46 PM
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No need for bad faith questions. I have a uterus and don’t find myself attracted to different kinds of guys depending on my menstrual cycle. So 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/18 08:52 PM
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I always knew this was bullshit, as I’ve literally never experienced it. Very fun though to have boys on the internet insist they know how my reproductive system works better than I do, hopefully this will curb it 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/18 07:06 PM
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Yes, it’s rapidly becoming more common. I personally know several couples where the dad is the stay at home parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/18 11:44 AM
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What made the second date bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/18 11:30 AM
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I haven’t watched the film, I was just arguing against the claim that artist type guys have’t been historically called faggots by more conservative tradcon type men. It’s a very common trope that has only very recently started to fall out casual use. We have regular users in this sub who do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/18 01:10 AM
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"Art is for faggots" - 12 results in Google. "Art is for fags" - 73 results in Google. "Art is for women" - 40 results in Google. It’s not some kind of internet thing, this happens all the time in real life in the US. I’ve seen it first hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/18 12:29 AM
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Ohhhh yeahhhh. It’s niche and back when I did it it was even smaller than it is today. But ohhhh yeahhhh it gets legit competitive. There are competitions for costume craftsmanship and there’s are also performance competions where people can write and perform skits or fight choreography or a dance number or something. I miss it, it’s very expensive and will dominate your life haha
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/18 12:00 AM
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I don’t even care about this post but that Tweet is murdering me she could have been with and maybe even still with Julio Jones AHHHHH 😭😭😭 I’m guessing she (Tweeter) doesn’t follow sports and didn’t know he was a rising star, thought he was just some guy and passed. I saw one of her friend’s comments that sort of implied she would have been too busy with law school at the time to date and that’s why? She clearly knows who he is now, I actually said HAHA OH SHIT out loud when I clicked the link, …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 09:41 PM
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Oh my goddddd that Tweet 😭😭😭
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 09:34 PM
1

Don’t. Be civil.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 09:25 PM
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Feminism doesn’t do that lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 05:10 PM
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The OP asked for what we, in my case I, bring to the table. How is talking about myself anything other than answering the question? Also I’m not married yet, I’m engaged, and even after the ceremony I will never call him “hubby” bleh
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 02:02 PM
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My problem is bad faith participation. Your OP is a loaded statement and you don’t have any actual bluepill sources to back up your claim. Shutting people down with “You’re wrong” in your own OP is also frowned upon. What is there even to discuss if you’re going to play fast and lose with the way this sub uses the term bluepill and you won’t budge on your stance?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 01:06 PM
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Toxic masculinity is defined as a concept exactly like that and is often discussed in depth with that understanding of what it means, it just doesn’t happen often in this subreddit because most discussions never make it past the starting line due to people complaining about the name and why they find it offensive. Coming from the dudes who coined “cock carousel” and “pussy pedestal” 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 12:54 PM
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Stop telling everyone who disagrees with you that they are wrong. This post is increasingly coming off as bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 12:47 PM
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Your post should more accurately be titled “will some people in society always reject blah blah” instead of calling them bluepillers though, that’s intentionally deceptive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 12:43 PM
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So it doesn’t matter how they identify, everything you disagree with is bluepill, got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 12:28 PM
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You are being way too literal. Just because attraction is objective doesn’t mean that in general, attractive people do better in xyz situation. No one is saying there’s no difference between a 1 and a 10. People say that one person’s 6 could be another person’s 7 or 8. Or 5. There is wiggle room, the 10 point scale does vary for person to person, but there are still universal things most everyone sees as unattractive, like sloppy hygiene or extreme weight. Also none of those quotes were from blu…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 12:25 PM
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None from actual bluepillers lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 12:20 PM
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But they’re not BP members of this community. You don’t get to label everything you don’t like as BP, especially if the person saying it has a Red Pill Man flair. That’s a completely disengenous argument. None of the three quotes you linked are flailed as blue pill, you just picked three quotes that fit your narrative and attributed them to “blue pillers” thinking I wouldn’t check.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 12:18 PM
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Also, blackedoutfast is RP, not BP.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 12:12 PM
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None of that fits the claim made in your OP, absolutely no one is saying looks don’t matter at all. And looksmatching stuff is bullshit, unattractive people are not naturally attracted to other unattractive people, though they do often settle for each other and can still have meaningful relationships in such a pairing. It happens all the time. But it’s a total waste of time to complain on the internet that less attractive people still want to date attractive people, that’s human nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 12:11 PM
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Can you cite an example of a blue piller from this sub saying these things? Since it happens constantly and all?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 11:58 AM
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Thought so, right on 👊
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 11:44 AM
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That’s very similar to what I said, just using different phrasing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 05:34 AM
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I didn’t ignore the rest, I read it. I disagree with just about everything you said but I’ve already spent hours on discussion in this thread tonight, and I don’t feel like responing to it. Maybe tomorrow. I’d be interested to hear whether BiggerD agrees with me himself, as your version of his stance does not align with what I remember seeing him say.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 05:24 AM
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I’m pretty sure BiggerD and I are on the same page about this, but I could be wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 05:11 AM
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I don’t understand this comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 04:35 AM
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I’m probably not going to respond again after this comment, not because I’m not enjoying the conversation, but because it’s getting late. Here’s what I think is the solution to the crumbling patriarchy: socialism. A return to a society that loves and supports each other. Single motherhood isn’t a curse or a burden with a strong social safety net. Many animals practice short term monogamy, where a bonded pair will get the offspring to the point where it can survive on its own, and then both paren…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 03:10 AM
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Men don't like that today At this point in our history as a species, yes. and they didn’t like it back then. This is up for debate. Under a system where everyone is equal and the whole community has sex with each other and raises all the children together, why would men feel disposable? There’s no reason they’d feel shame for something that had never been a gender norm. Men weren’t being shamed for not knowing which children were specifically theirs because it didn’t matter. All the children wer…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 02:37 AM
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Oh I don’t think it came out of the blue at all. It’s been cobbled together over thousands of years. There’s a book I read years ago called Sex at Dawn that talks about the sexual habits of early humans. Here’s a summary: In opposition to what the authors see as the "standard narrative" of human sexual evolution, they contend that having multiple sexual partners was common and accepted in the environment of evolutionary adaptedness. Mobile self-contained groups of hunter gatherers are posited as…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 02:10 AM
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I wouldn’t say it was a response to hypergamy, but more broadly a way to control women just in general. Women make children. Having control over women is having control over society and the future of society. Patriarchy is also harmful to men keep in mind, as it wants to keep specific men in power and subjugate others. Patriarchy is almost completely intertwined with religion, and has used religion to enforce gender roles, including the role of “lesser” men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 01:38 AM
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Well, to get all existential and shit about it, each species of animals found something that worked. There is no permanent thread in the fabric of reality that dictates animals of any gender have to be or do anything, they are merely the end product or at least the current state of their evolution. There are trends sure, but male seahorses give birth. Some species of reptiles and fish will literally genetically switch gender to even out the ratio of the population. None of this is carved into st…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 01:25 AM
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There are just as many animal species who aren’t Patriarchal though. There are Matriarchal animals like bees, or to a more extreme end hyenas, who go so far as to sexually dominate male hyenas to assert power over them. Or Angler fish, where only the females function like actual fish, swimming around freely and eating stuff. The males, smaller and weaker, quickly find themselves stuck to the side of a female, gradually being absorbed literally into her body so she can use his genitals to impregn…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 01:07 AM
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I know this is annoying to read, but feminists who use it in other ways are using the term incorrectly. I know, No True Feminism. I hate it too. Unfortunately, thanks to the internet, terms that generate a lot of buzz like that end up being misused, like gaslighting. It means a very specific thing, but then the internet got a hold of it, and the internet is full of misinformed people who parrot whatever they see on Facebook. Women are absolutely also to blame for toxic masculinity. Granted, ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 12:44 AM
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Toxic (whatever) depends on the person being coerced by external cultural (institutionalized) expectations into doing something that is destructive? Yes. For example, the traits that fall under toxic masculinity often correlate with the things men historically have been shamed for (you throw like a girl, you’re a pussy/faggot/weakling, more recently cuck/soyboy) by their peers and by adult authority figures. They then overdo it to a detrimental degree to prove they’re masculine. In my own experi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 12:26 AM
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My fiancé lol. He’s a 10 to me. There are things about him that other women would hold against him, but they’re either non-issues I don’t care about either way (like his height, I’m taller) or straight up bonuses (he has long awesome rockstar hair and tattoos, he’s a sensitive artist type). I’ve never mentally ranked him as a number before though, as a BPer I don’t care for the idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 12:17 AM
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Hmm. Depending on how common it is to the culture of a given area, it could be. For it to be toxic femininity it would need to be something she was encouraged to do growing up, by both peers and adults, and is actively shamed for not doing by gender traditionalists, as it was done to them, perpetuating the toxic cycle generationally. This isn’t something women are taught to do in my area, but in some stereotypical gold digger community where alllll the wives are super shallow and married for mon…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 11:51 PM
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I’ve never known what those lyrics were until now, thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 11:36 PM
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Assuming someone actually wanted to talk about toxic femininity in good faith and not as a “haha checkmate feminists” dunk, well... Hypergamy can be toxic, if she’s abandoning perfectly good relationships or neurotically self-sabotaging her relationships because she obsesses over there being something better out there. That isn’t exclusive to women though, and isn’t an expected part of the female gender role. It’s the opposite of expected of traditional femininity actually, women are supposed to…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 11:31 PM
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I have what I like to think is an awesome sense of humor. I’m very extroverted and funny, I’m great to bring to parties, work events, dinner with the family. I’m especially great with moms. I know how to girl. I’m usually pretty laid back fashion wise, especially just hanging out around the house, but I’m ready to be armcandy if need be. I am very into lots of super nerdy shit. I play video games. And I’m not talking Candy Crush (though there’s nothing wrong with that, boo to gatekeeping) I’m ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 10:57 PM
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Be civil.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 09:39 PM
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That would be my dream, I’m a size 9.5 and drown in an ocean of 5-7 boxes lol 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 09:14 PM
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It was intentionally vague, as I was painting with a wide brush. The specifics I listed later in the comment were examples of someone not having their shit together that could lead to a breakup, and could apply to any gender. Everyone puts on their best face in a new relationship, lots of time goes into appearance, hygiene and tidiness, you’re on your best behavior, you laugh at all their jokes, you’re easily agreeable, eager to please. Maybe that’s the true you and even deeply comfortable in an…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 01:50 PM
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It’s a self-fulfilling prophecy. A big demographic of TRP, from what I’ve observed at least, are guys who recently experienced a breakup. They’re hurting and out looking for advice. Maybe their partner left them because they didn’t have their shit together, maybe they’ve seen her start seeing someone new who visibly does have his shit together. They’re hurt and they find TRP and they come across “hypergamy” and it all makes sense, those treacherous women, AWALT! But like... if the woman had been…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 01:28 PM
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That is a pretty typical RP definition of blue pill. But it is not what people who identify as BP typically stand for, like myself, which was the point of my previous comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 12:59 PM
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🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 12:28 PM
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Asking people for their definition is the way to go, for sure. I should have specified, but my comment was mostly directed at the community at large, especially since we have an influx of newcomers post-purge. I’ve even seen some people trying to hammer down a solid definition of purple pill recently, and that’s hilariously even vaguer, just “I agree with some of both of you guys” and where that lands varies wildly lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 12:00 PM
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You can stop replying to me at any time my dude. I read the comment chain. From where I’m standing you are the one who doesn’t understand what she’s talking about and have jumped to wild conclusions multiple times.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 11:46 AM
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I’m just gonna go ahead and jump in here since I’ve seen a few comment chains recently using different versions of “blue pill”. There are basically two vague definitions of blue pill. TRPers refer to blue pill as any behavior they might have done before “taking the pill”. Maybe they were a doormat in relationships, maybe they found themselves friend zoned, got cheated on, ect. Whatever behavior that changed once they “snapped out of it” and they now look back on with disdain and regret is blue p…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 11:41 AM
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Her question was an attempt to get you to see why it’s ridiculous to suggest women should give any guy who asks a chance and explain why it’s better to have your friends vet potential dates than just going for strangers. It seems to have gone over your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 10:58 AM
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No I didn’t know you are Nemo, hello lol. Well so you know the deal haha, calling people’s comments stupid has never been smiled upon.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 05:31 PM
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If you’re aware of the rules, stop breaking them. I’m being nice because I’m involved with this thread, but I’m a mod so I’m letting you know. Don’t tell people their questions are stupid and don’t tell people you hope they learn to read better just for disagreeing with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 01:40 PM
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Yes you did. Do you like asking stupid questions? It’s literally the reason I started talking to you. To attempt to reason with you and get you to see how it’s not a stupid question. But now you’ve turned that incivility on me and started accusing me of off-the-wall stuff like hating men, so I’m backing off and letting you know that sort of thing is against the rules here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 01:17 PM
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No need for incivility, it’s against the rules here btw. Calling other people’s questions stupid also falls under that umbrella. Just letting you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 01:04 PM
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🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 12:59 PM
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That’s clearly what she meant by that. Again, I think you’re reading way too much into things. I still don’t know how you jumped to the conclusion I hate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 12:58 PM
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She’s probably asleep or doing something, I’m sure she’ll defend herself just fine the next time she checks Reddit. And she didn’t say she treats dating like an interview process, she says she likes to date people who her friends already know, because she trusts their judgement and it saves a lot of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 12:42 PM
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Living in a big city is great, I brush cold approaches off and they are a small price to pay for all the other things I love about it. You are reading way too much into what I’m saying. Again, I don’t hate men, even the ones who cold approach, I just am not interested in them and think they’re annoying. That’s not the same thing as hate. This entire thread is merely women stating an opinion and dudes trying to argue us out of that opinion. To which I say lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 12:37 PM
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I don’t hate men, men are great. I hate rude people, maybe not even hate, I don’t have sex with rude people. Not dating someone is not equivalent to hate. If that were true it would mean I hate every human on earth who isn’t my fiancé and that’s plainly ridiculous. I’m sorry that you aren’t able to empathize with why cold approaches are often seen as weird and disrespectful. As I’ve already said, I don’t like to be interrupted when I’m busy with something or my time is limited. I don’t like feel…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 12:24 PM
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I don’t think you know what white knighting means. You’re implying I’m defending Tasteful on the hope that she’ll become attracted to me. Dude, I’m a woman who agrees with her that cold approaches are almost always offputting, that’s all. People are allowed to have dealbreakers, I’m sure you have them too.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 12:18 PM
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I’ve been reading everything you’ve said, sorry you don’t like my replies. You clearly aren’t reading what I’m saying if you think I hate men lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 12:12 PM
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Hate for men? We’re on completely different wavelengths, jeesuz. Anyways, the reason I jumped into this thread is because you called that other user’s comment stupid, which I took objection to. Having self respect and personal boundaries for what you’re willing to put up with isn’t stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 12:09 PM
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How is me finding it rude and weird not a reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 11:55 AM
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I never said one things about bars, you brought bars up. I would be open to the idea of a cold approach at a bar because it’s socially understood that’s what bars are for and I wouldn’t hold it against a guy for trying in such a venue. However, I am not single, not looking, and don’t go to bars looking for men. So the cold approaches I experience are mostly in places where I’m busy, or where I consider asking a stranger on a date to be genuinely weird, like a grocery store. Or on the subway, whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 11:53 AM
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My opinion on why I don’t like it, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 11:47 AM
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I have been telling you why. I don’t like to be interrupted. I don’t like people who disrespect other’s time. I don’t like people who selfishly ignore social cues.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 11:45 AM
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I’m not interested in answering your hypothetical question about you hitting on me at a bar. There’s no way to comment on what would happen without actually experiencing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 11:44 AM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 11:40 AM
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Sometimes, yes, depending on how they do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 11:40 AM
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How is mere agreement white knighting? Isn’t that something specifically describing a man defending a woman he hopes will now look favorably at him? I’m a woman btw, and I share this other woman’s view. Do you understand the difference between “I don’t like something and won’t respond positively to it” and “Men should stop doing this entirely”?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 11:38 AM
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I am answering it. I’m trying to get you to relate to why being interrupted is weird and disrespectful of one’s time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 11:35 AM
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So you just kinda feel like they’re throwing a tantrum? Sounds like a biased interpretation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 11:34 AM
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It can be both. Do you like being interrupted when you’re busy? When you’ve got a schedule to keep? Do you like it when people ignore your personal boundaries and disregard social norms because they consider their desire to interact with you more important than anything else?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 11:33 AM
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It can be both disrespectful of my time and weird, those two things are not mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 11:24 AM
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Most women I know meet partners that way, yes. I don’t really care about what most women want, all I’m talking about is my own opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 11:23 AM
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She’s saying they don’t work for her and has acknowledged they work for other people. That isn’t telling people not to do it. And I’m not white knighting her, I’m agreeing with her and feel the same way about cold approaches.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 11:19 AM
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I live in a big city in the US, the cold approaches I experience are often disrespectful of my time, which is why I don’t like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 11:18 AM
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Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 11:17 AM
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How is OP throwing a tantrum?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 11:16 AM
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No one is telling men to stop doing cold approaches, and it’s very interesting that every time this subject comes up, men take women merely sharing their opinions as an attack that needs to be immediately defended.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 11:08 AM
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Like I said, I have never been approached by a man who inspired that reaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 11:06 AM
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I’m engaged, so barring some catastrophe I don’t see this as an issue in my life at all. That being said, you seem to not be understanding what I’m saying. It’s not a “rule”, it’s not an arbitrary standard I just decided to start holding myself to. I don’t like it. I find it a red flag for me if a guy is cold approaching a stranger. That doesn’t mean that I think he’s a bad person, it means that I can already tell he isn’t compatible with me. I don’t invest time in someone who gives me a bad fir…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 10:39 AM
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If it works for you, why do you care whether I “write off” the method or not? I also haven’t written it off so much as I’ve never experienced a cold approach that didn’t rub me the wrong way. That’s great that it works for you but you either must be abnormally good looking and charming, or have an incredible knack for visually identifying women who aren’t put off by it. Either way good for you, no sarcasm. But that doesn’t change anything about how I feel about cold approaches.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 10:14 AM
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It’s not a stupid question, and I think it would do some guys in here some good to actually listen to what women are saying in this thread. Guys are quick to defend the cold approach because they want it to theoretically work for them someday. It’s irritating to see a woman say she’s not open to cold approaches because hey, that means she wouldn’t give me a chance! And that’s where the divide takes place. Because while men want a woman to be hypothetically open to a cold approach because they wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 10:10 AM
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Do not use personal insults.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 09:59 AM
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Sure, I don’t date guys who approach in weird ways, like a completely cold approach. I have never dated someone who cold approached.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 09:52 AM
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It’s not crazy at all. Someone is not going to be so attractive, as a stranger, than I’m willing to ignore social faux pas because of his looks. How can I even know if I like a guy or not during a cold approach? Obviously if for some reason I’m into it and the guy isn’t doing it in a weird way I wouldn’t write him off, but in my experience that is extremely rare. Some women are open to being approached by strangers but I never have been.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 09:38 AM
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I’m always a little astounded by this take. Personally no, I am not open to the “opportunity to meet a good potential partner” via a completely cold approach. To me that sounds almost like paranoia, worrying about the potential outcomes of every single interaction with a stranger I have. What if that random guy was the one? It reads like the plot to a manic pixie dream girl movie, where the trope of “a stranger who changes your life forever” is way over romanticized, I’d argue dangerously so. I’…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 03:18 AM
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And there were a bunch of guys who were just too stubborn to change. This is what happens the majority of the time. I’ve tried to help multiple people over the years, most of them never budge from their starting position because despite claiming to be desperate for advice, there’s an excuse for why they can’t try every suggestion made to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/18 12:15 PM
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Helping people isn’t gone on the left, just wounding someone’s self worth in the name of “helping” them. Like I said, there are other ways to give someone advice than to give them a complex about their masculinity. If someone is floundering in their responsibility, you don’t need to tell them to be a man, you can just as easily tell them to be an adult or to get their shit together.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/18 02:13 AM
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You seem to know saying what you want to say to your friends would potentially cause a problem between you and them. It’s always a risk to give someone tough love advice if you’re not completely sure they’d want to hear it. If you want to help, I think there’s better advice than “be more masculine” anyways. They’re already opening up to you about their problems, maybe dig deeper and see if you can give more personalized advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 11:27 PM
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You don’t. You’re asking how to socially enforce your version of masculinity in a way that won’t offend people? I mean, there isn’t really a PC way to do something that is inherently un-PC in and of itself. Punishing men you don’t feel are masculine enough by calling them pussy or faggot is textbook toxic masculinity, that’s how negative issues surrounding a fear of not being “man enough” take route in someone’s mind. If someone is doing something specific that you want to call out as their frie…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 11:07 PM
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Based on the way each group treats fat people, I’m gonna say feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 06:53 PM
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That’s what I meant by “asked”. He was in a position of authority and she felt like she had to say yes, but she obviously wasn’t into it. And Louis said as much in his apology letter, in which he admitted what he did was fucked up. Don’t know why people are still trying to white knight for him, he’s not denying anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 04:13 PM
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If you’re talking about Louis CK, no consent was not given. Sometimes he “asked” before whipping his dick out, but he took shocked silence as a yes, and also took advantage of women thinking he was joking. What woman would ever actually agree to that?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 01:05 PM
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He looks dehydrated. Just very... dry 😕
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 11:10 AM
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Ah, got it. Also I wouldn’t cheat on my partner, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 11:00 PM
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How did a girlfriend divorce rape you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 10:56 PM
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Because some of those people polled didn’t care last year either and are tired of pretending to be good people.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 08:05 PM
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You still chose to use it 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 07:23 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 03:05 PM
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I’m scared for him and his daughter’s digestive system. Apparently they only eat meat now, no vegetables ever. Not a fan of his politics or gender worldview but I still hope they don’t get scurvy or convince others to follow suit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 02:40 PM
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Protip: if for some reason the surgery does come up in an awkward way, just say you got in a car accident as a teenager or something. It’s what girls do when they feel self conscious about a nose job or whatever. Don’t make up an elaborate story with too many details, just brush it off and move on, you’ll be fine if this is something you decide to do, good luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 03:27 PM
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Not inherently, no. I’m a firm believer that people shouldn’t be judged for doing things that make them happy and feel good about themselves, whether the procedure was medically necessary or not. Life is short, go for it. Same goes for boob jobs, tattoos, piercings, whatever, live your best life. That being said, oversharing is a thing. I’m not saying lie about or hide it at all costs but making it a big part of your identity, like, compulsively making sure that everyone knows you’ve had it done…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 12:48 PM
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You’ve asked it, now what?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 08:53 PM
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What was the point of this post of yours?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 08:16 PM
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🤘
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 07:43 PM
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I don’t think the conclusion was that the guy only wanted a hookup, my takeaway from that post was that the woman blew it by making fun of him for caring about consent. She just assumed that a relationship would still be an option after acting super rude, but that doesn’t mean it was never there.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 07:36 PM
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The sub was created because back when The Red Pill first popped up on Reddit and The Blue Pill was created in response to criticize it, people wanting to actually dispute/discuss/break the circlejerk about various posts/topics were banned immediately from both subs, pretty much still are. This sub was created as a neutral space for members of each community as well as bystanders or whoever to argue about it all. Over the years the core userbase has gotten to know each other pretty well, so in ad…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 07:34 PM
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I seem to recall you saying at one point that you do the boyfriend mode thing on purpose because it’s what women respond to, even if you know you aren’t actually interested in dating. If you yourself weren’t sure if you were serious about her that’s different.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 07:21 PM
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Ah yes, haven’t you said you’ll intentionally let women falsely think you’re interested in dating them because they wouldn’t fuck you otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 06:19 PM
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I mean, I don’t play by the girl game rules, so I mostly agree with you. But I think it’s important to acknowledge the lingering culture of men who do hypocritically expect sex immediately but will hold it against that girl because “sluts aren’t good for relationships, only sex” despite being a slut himself. You and I don’t buy into that dynamic from the sound of it, but I’ve heard stories from both men and women in here over the years who play that game. I will say that I’m a pretty big slowbur…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 06:02 PM
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All of my worthwhile LTRs have developed from friendships, I think it’s better to get to know someone before sex is involved if its important to you. Sex is obviously going to add nuance to getting to know someone, but the idea of having sex first then finding out if you have things in common with them is silly to me. For me, the “is this guy actually interested in me or does he just want sex” investigation takes place before the first date, that way we can jump right into bangin if the date goe…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 05:24 PM
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If guys didn’t “next” girls for relationships for fucking on the first date, it probably wouldn’t happen so much. I think there’s a subconscious instinct that if you put out too fast, a guy won’t take you seriously or will consider you “easy”, even though the guy is acting just as easy. I dunno, I fuck on the first date but I also don’t go looking for boyfriends at a bar or club. By the time I have a first date with someone I’m interested in for a relationship, I already know him well enough to …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 05:14 PM
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Ehehehe I’ve probably forgotten some of the best ones there are so many. I used to bartend near a party school, I’ve heard it all. Guy told me he was the CEO of McDonalds, he was barely 21 His dad owned JetBlue and he wanted to take me to Paris Asked me who my favorite band was and said he was friends with the band. Later overheard him use the same line (different band) on another girl Multiple guys have tried the pull-at-the-heartstrings move of how they’re freshly single and just want to belie…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 03:19 PM
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Ha! Okay that’s funny
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 11:44 PM
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Oh I know, I was hoping to give the person I was talking to in the other thread some perspective, since he’s convinced I’m wrong about everything and biased against him. Good comment though, firmly agree with what you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 10:33 PM
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You do not make good quality content. I have tried to tell you this politely many times, for example “read the room”. You are trying to force the content you want to write that only benefits you on a community that is not designed for it nor is asking for it. The fact that you say “well there isn’t a rule against it” when there has not been a single other person making journal posts in the months that you’ve been here is extremely telling of how you’re choosing to view the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 09:08 PM
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That’s you rationalizing doing whatever you want despite what the overwhelming majority of people here are telling you. You aren’t listening at all, you’re in fact being incredibly arrogant and dismissive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 09:02 PM
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Petition to make the next off-topic Saturday post a pie thread 🥧
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 08:56 PM
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You’ve found the loophole 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 08:41 PM
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When I say read the room, I mean actually listen to the feedback the community is giving you, including the mod team.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 08:40 PM
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That doesn’t change anything I said. Read the room.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 07:56 PM
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You’re moving the goalposts. How is abuse part of unconditional love? No, parents shouldn’t beat their children.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 07:55 PM
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Do you see anyone else making long personal journal posts? That’s not what this sub is for. We also don’t have a rule against making posts full of animal pictures or pie recipes. It’s implied in the lack thereof.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 07:52 PM
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Mhm indeed, racially charged content is against the sub rules, so are bad faith arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 07:48 PM
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I’m not interested in going down that racially charged rabbit hole, geesuz.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 07:44 PM
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It is known.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 07:38 PM
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Neither does “men and women love differently” to be real, especially coming from a man who thinks cheating isn’t mutually exclusive with loving your wife. All that statement proves is that men can’t love unconditionally either. If they could, they wouldn’t cheat. And they wouldn’t hamster themselves into believing male cheating is more noble or less offensive than female cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 07:38 PM
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Oh goody, old gross dick 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 07:10 PM
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Yeah, that’s what guys who like to cheat usually say.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 07:07 PM
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My take away from the “women file more” stat is that men are more content to stay in failing/failed marriages than women. Also because I gather more women find themselves in the household manager role than men, and even if the man is over it he’ll put it off. If he’s not gonna clean up after himself and rememebr his own important dates and do his own laundry why would he take the time to file for divorce?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 07:02 PM
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It’s always men who think male cheating isn’t as bad as female cheating. So convenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 06:55 PM
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commit to someone who is your first but you are not hers Why is this shitty? pay for an escort or be a beta provider and pay for all her dates For the record I don’t think you usually take an escort on more than one date. go to a domme and be submissive This is not what was suggested in the other thread. Going to a domme implies some kind of professional arrangement, the comment you referenced was just some regular woman who thinks it would be hot to take a dominant role during sex with a man le…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 09:21 PM
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That’s the reaction I had as well, I’ve never had a guy I asked out or initiated sex with or took charge during sex with tell me later he felt emasculated by it. Dudes usually feel like a champ after lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 07:34 PM
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Ooo nice
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 07:04 PM
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The reaction you’re getting is because you called an understandable and justified yelp of pain “cunty”, it’s not about whether it was an accident or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 07:01 PM
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Most of the PPD community disagrees with you. I’m not saying that to gang up on you, we’re trying to help. This men always have to pay for dates is not what I said, but I’ve alredy corrected it multiple times, which you’re ignoring and I’m onto other topics. And this virgins don't get laid casually, they have to commit to promiscuous women is also not being said, at all. You’re picking out the parts that don’t sound appealing to you and reaching a solution that allows you to stay in your comfort…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 06:26 PM
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Sure, but not during casual sex, which was what the original comment was about.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 06:02 PM
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It does, but not the flip. Thank you for finding the whole version 🙏
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 05:32 PM
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And the YouTube clip I found is edited down, you don’t see the original full scene with her and the girl 😩
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 05:23 PM
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I guess it depends on your definition of dominant. One person could start off more dominant and then it could switch. I think the only time sex doesn’t have at least some element of dominance to it would be during “love making” between two partners also way into each other emotionally. That wouldn’t happen during casual sex, at least not in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 05:20 PM
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Right on 👊
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 04:53 PM
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Are you saying there’s something wrong with insisting on safe sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 04:22 PM
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I didn’t say anything about consent and it doesn’t matter if it’s an accident or not. Even if it’s 100% an accident, yelping in pain is not a cunty overreaction to having a dick shoved up your ass with no warning.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 04:18 PM
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I could have picked a better example, I’m just a sucker for that couple 😍
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 03:55 PM
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Jesus I didn’t downvote you Lewis. I guess I’m just fascinated at the extreme way you view a “wrong hole” situation. I mean, it hurts and it’s super rude, why shouldn’t you raise your voice when your partner does something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 03:52 PM
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I don’t think finding yourself being penetrated in the “wrong hole” and vocalizing not being into it is an overreaction, let alone a cunty one lol. How should one express not wanting surprise buttsex in a non cunty way exactly? That isn’t really what I was talking about though, we seem to be on the same page.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 03:49 PM
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I’m not necessarily thinking about bdsm or pegging or anything hardcore like that
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 03:39 PM
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I’m wondering why you think a woman being dominant doesn’t fall under the category of ordinary. Do you think the less experienced partner would end up being more dominant? Or that men being dominant is default?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 02:05 PM
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Masculinity isn’t a meter inside you though, you can overcome feeling emasculated. The comment you were referencing talked about the more experienced partner taking the reigns with a virgin and blowing his mind with her skills, that sounds like a completely positive, non-emasculating experience. Hell, the internet is full of inexperienced men who fantasize about just such a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 01:23 PM
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What do you think being dominated sexually is like and why do you think you wouldn’t like it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 01:17 PM
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And a lot of them expected to be dominant rather than just give the guy a normal experience Two things. First, are you suggesting any time a woman is sexually dominant it’s not a normal experience? Second, do you think sex is something a woman “gives” a man or was that poor phrasing?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 09:41 AM
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Not necessarily, there are definitely ways for it to come up organically and not weird. The impression I’m getting from the OP though, and what I have seen play out in real life, is like this over-excited personal info dump in the name of honesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 09:27 AM
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Be civil.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 09:12 AM
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It’s not about being honest or not being honest, it’s about social grace. It might be true that someone wants to get married and have a family, but bringing that up on the first date is waaayy too soon and yes, it can freak the other person out. Blurting out personal information too soon/in the wrong venue is a sign of poor impulse control and an inability to read the room. Even if that other person also wants to get married at some point, the implications of having it brought up way too soon ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 01:29 AM
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And they members of this sub with blue flair?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/18 08:51 PM
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It’s certainly smarter to wait to have kids when you’re financially stable, but if you want to start a family what’s holding you back? I’ve always known I don’t want kids, so while there are people in my life asking when I’m gonna “finally do it” I don’t feel ashamed, I mostly feel annoyed. Even if getting married and having children is something you want, don’t let other people shame you for your choices. They should mind their own business, doubly so since you want to accomplish these goals, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/18 12:55 PM
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👊
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/18 11:11 AM
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I had this exact same conversation with him. There’s an excuse for everything. I thought he wasn’t believing me because I’m a woman but you’re a dude right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 11:47 PM
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Lol Maxim. What the article actually says is that the g-spot is the back of the clitorus, which duh. It’s not a seperate organ as once believed, it’s just the other side of the cause of female orgasms.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 09:53 PM
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If you’ve already convinced yourself that there’s nothing to change your mind about, therapy won’t do you any good. It’s your prerogative to die on this hill I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 09:14 PM
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It isn’t healthy to feel that a woman approaching you or you paying for a date has emasculated you. Again, I would strongly recommend therapy to help you get this sorted out.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 09:09 PM
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teary and hysterical Such good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 08:58 PM
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All I can tell you is that in my actual experience of dating real people, it’s not 95% of the time. You saying that just sounds like another excuse. I could understand if you’d be open to women asking you out and being the initiating partner, but you don’t want that either.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 08:57 PM
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People with opinions like yours often think everyone else secretly agrees with them and just aren’t “brave” enough to admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 08:51 PM
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In a relationship people “pay for shit” out of genuine affection for the other person. I’m still trying to wrap my head around your refusal to pay for dinner and buy presents for a loved one. I mean, she’d presumably be doing the same stuff for you. “Paying for shit” is reciprocal in relationships, or at least typically fair regarding each person’s financial situation. Again, you’re spending so much time worrying about what might happen, and it’s all based on things you’ve read or heard but not …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 08:48 PM
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I can easily think of quite a few men who wouldn’t want you speaking for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 08:24 PM
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