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Do you think your attitudes and beliefs towards women contributes any to your inability to find somebody who wants to sleep with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 05:23 AM
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You can't know without asking. You do not have the ability to read minds. You may think you do... but then how do you confirm it without ever asking? You are just wrapped up in mental mistakes dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 05:22 AM
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Then define it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 05:20 AM
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At other spots in the thread you write off people because you say their personal experience doesn't count. Yet you just admitted you are going off of personal experience. So which is it? Does personal experience count or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 05:19 AM
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What? Why? Why write that person off as a rare exception? Where are you pulling all this from?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 05:17 AM
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You just moved the goal posts for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 05:16 AM
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Different strokes for different folks. If you have a relationship based on love and companionship... great! That is wonderful and amazing. If your relationship is based on one partner being rich and the other being extremely attractive... and that works for the couple based on their priorities... then who am I to judge? Of course I think certain relationships probably will tend to fare better overall compared to others... but if something works for a couple (even if I personally don't like it or…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 01:02 AM
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I appreciate it :)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 07:48 AM
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So you speak in the first person, "Imagine we are dating", "stumble upon my pickup folder", etc. and then you get confused why people reply to you speaking about you in the same tense? Like come on... if you were saying "Imagine you were dating a man and he did ______" and somebody replied with "you", then it would make sense. But you are speaking as yourself in this hypothetical situation and people are speaking to you in their replies because you used yourself as the hypothetical person... and…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 12:50 AM
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Here are quotes from you from other replies in this very thread: "TRP is much more than our views on women." "I have been RP all my life. I am not a natural alpha or something. Far from it. I just gave the example in the OP for the sake of debate. I just don't use the same lingo that other trpers use. Mainly because my first language is Romanian haha." Sounds pretty much like you identify as part of the RP group. Yet when it is inconvenient for you you try to pretend you are just a neutral perso…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 06:05 AM
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This is the story of a man who is an alcoholic who starts each day with a fifth of alcohol. He got into the life because he was kicked out of his parent's house for not being able to stop selling/doing drugs. While the interviewer keeps trying to act like this guy is cool, towards the end the guy even says, "Do not be like me" and the interviewer still tries to play it up and the guy has no idea what to do because he is trying to tell people his life sucks.
/r/MGTOW20/09/15 08:12 AM
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When you are distraught over a recent breakup, or a potential partner not working out, you sometimes say things that aren't factually true. It applies to other topics as well, "Man, there are NO good games anymore!" "There is NOTHING to do!" etc.. I view it more as just venting with hyperbole. Not "There are literally no good guys anywhere in the world." But more just complaining that the recent guys she had been interested in have not panned out and there are no good options at the moment. Real…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 04:18 PM
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So then does that mean you are in favor of the majority of divorce cases with custody being defaulted to giving the woman custody?
/r/MGTOW10/07/15 08:44 PM
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So then why not "parent"? Or even mom or father?
/r/MGTOW09/07/15 08:45 PM
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So basically you believe in traditional gender roles and are against the ideas of fathers taking the lead in being a parent?
/r/MGTOW09/07/15 08:28 PM
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Do you really just sit around fantasizing about getting into situations where you can beat a woman who is a lot weaker than you senseless because she took some half hearted swings at you and is clearly drugged up to begin with and then you feel that justifies you to start punching her relentlessly?
/r/MGTOW09/07/15 06:29 AM
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The woman was laying on the ground not moving, the guy was struggling. Who do you think they dog piled? You can see the woman being taken off the train in handcuffs while they are still handcuffing the guy. Of course they "dog piled" (really it was one officer sitting on him while two officers remained standing and each grabbed an arm to get behind his back since he was fighting against them) the one still struggling while one police officer quickly handcuffed her.
/r/MGTOW09/07/15 06:24 AM
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Be more precise in your words would be my suggestion. Except that will fall on deaf ears because you are so bent on using emotionally laden language such as "mattress carrying rape liars". Which is interesting because I feel like using emotional language like that kinda goes against what you believe in? But whatever. Anyways, triggers are real things. It is one of the hallmark symptoms of PTSD. PTSD can be caused by a variety of different things and to try to be like "no no no you mentioned a gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 02:24 AM
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Yeah, if you like doublespeak. The subtext to that is "Women are going to be these catty, bitchy, whiny, manipulative cunts no matter what... it is just the nature of women to be like that and they can't help it because of biotruths. So we are going to change ourselves to best control women assuming these things."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 05:16 PM
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Scorned guys looking at women as the problem when the real answer is their lack of ability to interact socially in a healthy manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 04:35 AM
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Oh perfect, somebody who can only view the world in intensely logical black and white terms. This isn't going to go anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 07:52 PM
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I still don't see what the evolutionary benefit it was for me to enjoy getting dressed up even though I was around my family. The thing about humans is we are much more than our instincts. We very much can develop hobbies for the sake of doing hobbies. I am sure a lot of those women do want to do their makeup in a way to make themselves more attractive, and they are getting hints and tips on how to do it to make themselves more attractive. I am also sure a lot of those women are also doing makeu…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 07:19 AM
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And you think evolution knows about makeup?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 06:41 AM
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Did you ignore the example I gave? Explain that one through evolution and mate attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 04:51 AM
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Is it possible that you, presumably having only been in relationships with a woman that you are biased with what you see? As in... of course you see that sort of behavior primarily in women because that is the only gender you are in a position for that behavior to occur with
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 01:50 AM
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All of those things, except for cry (replace it with yelling), are also stereotypical jealous boyfriend behaviors. It is unacceptable for either gender to do those things. But don't act like it is what women do exclusively. Shitty behavior transcends gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 08:02 AM
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Just because somebody wants to look attractive doesn't mean they are looking attractive for the sake of having sex, attracting a partner, or anything of that nature. You can want to look attractive and not have any goal on wanting to attract anybody. For example, I am a guy, and on Christmas Eve I trimmed my beard, showered, styled my hair, and I put on the clothes I would typically wear to go out. Basically I dressed the same way I would have if I was going to a party or something. Yet the only…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 07:56 AM
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First off, PTSD is not a medical diagnosis. Second, I think being cognizant of other people's feelings and struggles is a good thing.
/r/TheRedPill13/04/14 09:57 PM
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Thank you for judging that for them. I am glad you have the ability to make decisions and give meaning to other people.
/r/TheRedPill13/04/14 06:57 PM
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Funny, I actually specialize in trauma related mental disorders such as PTSD. I know what "real PTSD" is.
/r/TheRedPill13/04/14 06:17 PM
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The DSM-5, the thing that is used to diagnose mental disorders, has this diagnostic criteria for PTSD: "Intense or prolonged psychological distress at exposure to internal or external cues that symbolize or resemble an aspect of the traumatic event(s)" And "Marked physiological reactions to internal or external cues that symbolize or resemble an aspect of the traumatic event(s)." Citing the "editorial board" (whatever that may be) does not negate that what is colloquially known as "triggers" are…
/r/TheRedPill13/04/14 07:36 AM
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Are you implying I brigaded? Or that the thread in general is brigaded?
/r/MensRights10/01/14 02:21 PM
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Yea you sounded like a redpiller. I am aware of that whole idea and I am also aware of how much they hate women and have a hard time understanding that women are real people with real people emotions.
/r/MensRights09/01/14 08:48 PM
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Now that is just pure speculation that attempts to continue this as a gender issue. I think Occam's razor should be applied where the least amount of assumptions here is that he was being offensive, derogatory, and attacking (all of which are specifically outlined as against the rules), and he was banned for such. To me that seems much more likely and direct than trying to view it as some sort of conspiracy. I also think that he would have been banned for being like that to anybody. Also I don't…
/r/MensRights09/01/14 08:42 PM
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There is a level of decorum that is to be expected. When I see somebody resorting to insults it shows that they have nothing relevant left to say. I doubt the ban was personal against a man as you imply. It isn't misandry if it would apply to anybody in the same position. Misandry implies he was targeted for being a man. Rather, he was targeted for breaking the subreddit's rules and being disrespectful.
/r/MensRights09/01/14 08:20 PM
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So you believe it is a biological thing?
/r/MensRights15/07/13 08:39 AM
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I still don't know how this is denying lol. He is just talking about an event... does not including the other side mean he is denying?
/r/MensRights12/07/13 07:06 AM
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He didn't speak about how women view men. He spoke about how he realized how he viewed women after seeing himself as a woman. Just because he doesn't mention the other side in this doesn't mean that what he does talk about isn't worth talking about.
/r/MensRights12/07/13 01:54 AM
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If the video is talking specifically about a guy seeing himself as a woman and seeing himself as not as valuable because he isn't an attractive woman, I don't see how trying to change the point of the video makes it not as pertinent to what it is talking about specifically.
/r/MensRights12/07/13 01:39 AM
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How is this denying? And I think the idea that a woman's value is based on her looks is a bit more prevalent than for guys.
/r/MensRights12/07/13 12:55 AM
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I don't go to /r/feminism and just see posts about how horrible men are... I will admit I see some posts about bad things men do to women... but that is fair game. It is talking about rape victims, or abusive relationships, where the woman is the focus. I don't see posts about just some crazy guy being crazy with no woman involved.
/r/MensRights10/07/13 11:23 PM
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So you try to show that women can be mean in order to go against that? Like I can see the meaning if "mom tases child... still gets custody over father" as being a mens rights issue... but just a woman abusing a child I think is a bit abstract in relating to mens rights.
/r/MensRights10/07/13 10:32 PM
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I thought we were talking in relation to who are generally considered the ones who rear children and the article was about a mom. It is hard to follow exactly how general you are making that article apply out there.
/r/MensRights10/07/13 09:06 AM
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I quickly breezed through OneY's frontpage and subscribed to it since it didn't seem to have anything that stood out as glaring in my mind... I figure I'll just let the posts trickle in to my front page over the next days/weeks and judge it that way.
/r/MensRights10/07/13 08:32 AM
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I don't think it was too well received :(
/r/MensRights10/07/13 08:19 AM
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Because I am trying to talk men's rights but I am not willing to put up with all this women hating in order to do it... I mean there has to be other people here who feel that talking about men's rights isn't complaining about feminism right?
/r/MensRights10/07/13 08:12 AM
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because of that stereotype that men have to work and be breadwinners and women are domestic.
/r/MensRights10/07/13 06:50 AM
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So it is men's rights because it goes against feminism? Also I am pretty sure feminists would say she was a shitty parent.
/r/MensRights10/07/13 04:10 AM
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I don't know, I see many times overlaps in beliefs and similar ideas being entertained in both.
/r/MensRights10/07/13 04:10 AM
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You look at the extremists of everything and try making that the norm you are going to get an extremely wrong impression. I mean I could just link TheRedPill and say that is what the MensRights movement is about.
/r/MensRights10/07/13 01:37 AM
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I would hardly describe feminism as a hate movement... kinda takes away the power of the Nazi movement and of the Ku Klux Klan when you say that.
/r/MensRights10/07/13 01:15 AM
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No, I am trying to say that a woman being a bad parent really doesn't relate to men's rights unless men's rights is about saying women are bad people.
/r/MensRights10/07/13 12:43 AM
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Overacting what? He seemed genuine.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 11:10 PM
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But that didn't happen in this situation. A male wasn't involved. I mean to me it is just, "See how if you apply a biased lens to this situation how you can make up a story that fits with your own personal worldview?"
/r/MensRights09/07/13 11:10 PM
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I hardly see how a celebrity calling themselves a humanist rather than a feminist has anything to do with mensrights. But I guess it is worth the frontpage. Also, forming a position based on being against a certain group is a horrible idea. Social movements change and evolve. If you are always reactionary you will find that you never really know what your position is, and how to approach any sort of compromise or agreement with things that both sides fully agree with.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 11:08 PM
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I think it was more than just a preference for pretty girls. He realized that it was more than "I wouldn't want to have sex with myself", it was, "I instantly thought I was worth less simply because I was unattractive." More so than just looks... he felt like his abilities and skills weren't being projected because of his looks. It isn't so much a preference for "pretty", but a complete rejection of not pretty not just on a sexual or attraction level, but on an ability and worth level.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 09:06 PM
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What a ham? For what? Empathizing with women?
/r/MensRights09/07/13 09:03 PM
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Thank you, you were the only person that attempted to give me any answer lol. I will check out /r/oneY for a little and see if I like it. I really am just looking for a place that is more about, "men can be good stay at home dads" and "men can be more than just a male stereotype" but a lot of mensrights subs seem to be going towards this hyper-masculinity and perpetuates the idea that man are just horny meat heads who want sex and think women are bitches.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 08:54 PM
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It was a political answer. It danced around the topic. She was doing what people always complain reporters don't do enough which is just accept those simple answers. I still don't see how that has anything to do with men's rights.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 08:50 PM
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So how is that a men's rights issue?
/r/MensRights09/07/13 08:49 PM
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Yes. But it is more about teaching empathy and compassion towards victims, something this sub really really fails at.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 08:49 PM
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I am seeing a lot of gross generalities and nothing specific.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 08:48 PM
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To be honest, /r/feminism is quite a bit better. I keep looking for a "mensrights" place that just doesn't reek of bitterness towards women and rape myths, but whenever I come check out men's rights I get turned off from it instantly. I think there are problems that affect men, but this hyper masculinity stuff and victim blaming I see constantly really ignores the issue. In addition, a lot of the front page seems to just be "DAE think feminism sucks?" Which has nothing to do with men's rights.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 08:47 PM
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Why is she getting a restraining order against him?
/r/MensRights09/07/13 10:01 AM
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How does this relate to men's rights?
/r/MensRights09/07/13 10:00 AM
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So she was doing her job as a journalist by not letting him get away with avoiding the answer... social media takes up the mantle of saying it was a sexist remark... and OP tries to discredit her for what reason? And this relates to men's rights how?
/r/MensRights09/07/13 10:00 AM
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I didn't say not look at it. And I don't want to get into a discussion about it either since that wasn't the topic of my post. I just don't think Men's rights puts nearly enough focus on actual rape prevention and doing what needs to be done in that way rather than just talking about how horrible women are for false rape reports. Also the crime that is being committed for false rape (or any false crime) is filing a false police report.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 09:49 AM
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So how would you handle a male friend going, "I got really drunk last night... I can't remember much. But I think Stacy had sex with me. It is all really blurry... but I think I told her I didn't want to do anything because I didn't want to cheat on my girlfriend." How would you treat that with skepticism?
/r/MensRights09/07/13 09:45 AM
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If you ever have a friend get raped I really really really hope you don't try to fact check them as they come to you telling about their experience.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 09:29 AM
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It is just ridiculously disproportionate to the actual occurrence of false rape reports compared to actual rapes. The over-saturation causes a general perception that most rape reports are false rapes, and it is parroted in the comments where any sort of rape accusation gets treated with skepticism when I think a lot more victim advocacy should be going on. It really just seems like a lot of people in this sub hate women and keep finding whatever they can to show how horrible women are. There is…
/r/MensRights09/07/13 09:06 AM
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I think he was talking about how he wouldn't have approached himself at a party simply because of his looks, and it causes him to realize how much an emphasis he placed on how a woman looks in what makes her desirable, and it wasn't until he was dressed as a woman that he realized that. I don't really see where you got anything about masculinity being this bulletproof vest, though it does make a nice talking point, I don't think this video does anything to even touch on what you are talking abou…
/r/MensRights09/07/13 08:51 AM
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What made you call it a liberal feminist "study" in the title besides your own biases? I mean it is Loyola and Stanford, they are pretty well known for their psychological research.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 08:22 AM
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It is a news report on the ruling of the court. It isn't editorialized, it is just a report to the public on what the court ruling was. The Pantagraph is a newspaper, and this is just the newspaper entry for the court case.
/r/MensRights04/07/13 12:49 AM
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You would have to call up the courthouse itself for that information. But as it is, it was ruled she was unconscious.
/r/MensRights04/07/13 12:36 AM
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Because that was the ruling? This isn't editorialized, it is just reporting the court case for the public in the newspaper, and that was the decision of the court.
/r/MensRights03/07/13 11:17 PM
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It says it right in the article, "Derry Jay Sanders, 35, was convicted in May of sexually assaulting a woman after she passed out at his home following a party in January 2012." She was passed out from alcohol and cocaine, while he was completely sober.
/r/MensRights03/07/13 09:46 PM
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"Yes, you can influence somebody's actions by making them more likely to act a certain way, but at the end of it only one person is giving the muscle signals to act." You are leaving out that part of what I said. You can be influenced, definitely. But it isn't cause and effect. Somebody yelling and screaming at me might make me more likely to yell and scream back, but by no means does it make me yell and scream back. That is something that I have to choose to do. For some people controlling thei…
/r/RedPillWomen03/07/13 05:36 PM
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And I am completely against the assumption that anybody controls the action of another. Men, as well as women, are completely in control of their own actions. No matter how hard I try, I can not make anybody do anything. That is something a lot of people do not understand in a lot of relationships, and is the source of so much frustration. It comes from trying to control another person's actions which is something you have absolutely zero control over. Yes, you can influence somebody's actions b…
/r/RedPillWomen03/07/13 04:47 PM
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No, the male examples given. Those are classic signs of an abusive relationship such as making threats, yelling, and insulting. It shows the man doesn't have the proper socialization skills to treat others with dignity and respect. Even if you completely disagree with somebody you can do it in a way that isn't disrespectful or attacking. If kids do that same sort of thing on the playground you correct them for it... so why is it ok for an adult to do it?
/r/RedPillWomen03/07/13 04:31 PM
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No, that is abuse. There are proper ways and improper ways of expressing disagreement. Those are all perfect examples of improper ways of trying to control another.
/r/RedPillWomen03/07/13 04:25 PM
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So she was passed out, as proven in the court... and he was sober? And he is just a "rapist" in quotes?
/r/MensRights03/07/13 08:40 AM
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I do want add next time don't put it in "3D" form. It adds nothing to the graphs and in fact, makes them a bit misleading, particularly with the pie chart form (the 3D adds depth, and the depth makes the foreground look bigger while the background looks smaller, which, when representing data, misconstrues it). Other than that, good job on this survey, I think it is enlightening on showing what demographic is present in this subreddit, something that would be great to know if it was done more thr…
/r/MensRights20/06/13 09:37 AM
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Eh. This is more about not victim blaming, and in this case he talks about the work he has done with these organizations.
/r/MensRights31/05/13 09:57 PM
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What? You just used a bunch of thought stopping cliches in one sentence that I am confused what your point is.
/r/MensRights31/05/13 09:31 PM
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The person who does the action is the one to blame, regardless of anything else. The point was that what they were doing was victim blaming. Even though it wasn't true, Sir Patrick Stewart points out how even if it was her arguing back that does not ever ever ever excuse or explain violence. And both sexes are to blame only when both sexes are committing violence. When the problem is men being violent towards women, the men are to blame. When the problem is women being violent towards men, the w…
/r/MensRights31/05/13 09:30 PM
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There aren't really any specific examples here like OP was looking for.
/r/TheRedPill23/05/13 01:59 AM
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What about gay men?
/r/TheRedPill14/05/13 09:36 AM
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Since when does the lack of consent count as consent?
/r/MensRights08/05/13 06:45 AM
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And generally they come with a less severe penalty.
/r/TheRedPill30/04/13 06:06 AM
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I think it matters the intention behind the act.
/r/TheRedPill30/04/13 04:21 AM
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Can you provide some studies please? All the studies I am familiar with will break down the act into various subcategories based on the legal wording of it, generally based on the legal standard. While it is true that rape has been categorized in Canada as sexual assault, I still do not know what you would like the various categories to actually be. The idea of it being up to a rapist to stop raping is pretty understandable. I didn't say men because anybody can rape, though according to various …
/r/TheRedPill30/04/13 03:28 AM
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Where is the hostility coming from? You are using the stats, yes, but you report how you define something. That goes for any study. They will report what they define as various terms for that very reason so that you know what information you are looking at. It has nothing to do with having any sort of ulterior motive, it is just science 101. So for example, if you wanted to do a study on "Canadian boys who have experienced physical, sexual, emotional or spiritual violence" and then define physic…
/r/TheRedPill30/04/13 03:22 AM
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Generally rape gets added to the category of rape. Grabbing ass gets added to category of sexual assault.
/r/TheRedPill30/04/13 03:09 AM
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So the basis is on your own opinion? Does that mean it is ok to grab people's asses as I so desire?
/r/TheRedPill30/04/13 02:26 AM
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Most is benign and irrelevant? On what basis is that claim made?
/r/TheRedPill30/04/13 02:09 AM
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What would you define it as?
/r/TheRedPill30/04/13 02:08 AM
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Getting your ass grabbed generally falls under most definitions of sexual assault. Legal or otherwise. I don't see how that shouldn't also count as sexual assault in various surveys.
/r/TheRedPill30/04/13 01:22 AM
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You are neglecting operational defintions. If you define "physical violence" as being involved in sports, then when you report the numbers you state that. I believe you will find that "physical or sexual violence" is defined in such a way in studies to exclude those criteria. If you are unsure, read the study. The information is usually present in either the introduction or method sections.
/r/TheRedPill29/04/13 09:50 PM
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Wait wait wait... did you just say it's the price women pay for freedom to have her rapist get away with raping her? And that doesn't sound absolutely ridiculous to you?
/r/TheRedPill24/04/13 10:57 PM
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It doesn't matter the crime being falsely reported, they generally are treated mostly the same in terms of punishment. Here is a chart of the sentencing for false reporting of crimes by state... you will note that it doesn't specify type of crime, just a false report. http://www.missingkids.com/en_US/archive/documents/FalseReporting.pdf
/r/TheRedPill24/04/13 10:14 PM
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The problem with the legal system with rape cases is the very foundation of the legal system being built on, "Innocent until proved guilty." While generally this is a good thing, but in the case of rape, and a victim's advocacy standpoint, this is a horrible thing because it ends up that the rape victim has to PROVE they were raped. Which is horrible for recovery to try to show how you were raped, and as you said, it is worse that you have to do that infront of many people over and over again. I…
/r/TheRedPill24/04/13 10:11 PM
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The forced penetration is the lawful definition of rape, which separates it from a sexual assault. To me, if somebody drugs somebody and then uses that person's body for sexual gratification in a way that doesn't involve penetration, I call that rape. The law would call that sexual assault, which carries a lesser crime. I do not believe it is made that way in order for feminists to "continue to lie about facts." I think we can both agree that if feminists had their way they would change the law …
/r/MensRights15/04/13 03:52 AM
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"Victimized" is the process of being made a victim... which we can both agree that somebody who was raped was made into a victim. The "no matter what their actions" is a segue into my second statement about how saying that the burden to not be raped is placed on the victim (even a tiny bit) is a form of victim blaming. I was not saying that anybody said that they deserved to be victimized straight up, but the implication that the victim is responsible for his own attack does carry with it the no…
/r/MensRights09/04/13 10:36 PM
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What you say though does put a measure of responsibility upon him. It is saying what he shouldn't have done, or what people shouldn't do. Yet it is all reactionary and up to him, which implies he has some blame in it. So why can't we look at the other side? His mistake was trusting people to be kind? Why is that suddenly a mistake and is wrong? Even now we are talking about it from "his" and "he" and "him", why isn't the tone "they" or "them"? Why aren't we discussing what they could have done t…
/r/MensRights09/04/13 06:59 PM
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Nobody deserves to be victimized, no matter what their actions. To say that he contributed to what the perpetrators did is victim blaming because it puts the burden on him to not be raped, rather than the perpetrators to not do the raping.
/r/MensRights09/04/13 05:01 PM
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I feel that some of these things do not line up to male reproductive rights. For example, males do not have the equivalent to a transvaginal ultrasound. Nor do we have access to a pill for birth control. Nor do we have to undergo the procedure for abortion. There ARE differences between men and women that can't be linked easily. The closest equivalent I could think of for the government denying men birth control would be saying men can no longer use condoms, or if I want to stretch it further sa…
/r/MensRights18/03/13 04:30 AM
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Am I not allowed to be interested in feminist writings? I find it interesting that you are so opposed to feminism that attempts to understand a position different than yours is seen as an attack upon your position. It also hugely misrepresents how often women are raped. How often does it come up on reddit alone where people argue "well that isn't rape because of X"? You get one side saying if it is unwanted sexual contact it counts as rape, and you get the other side saying only certain types of…
/r/MensRights18/03/13 04:23 AM
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I was curious about such cases. Like I said, I was under the impression that it was a rare occurrence when it did happen, thanks for an example. Are there any more data about occurrence rates in a nomothetic study?
/r/MensRights18/03/13 04:14 AM
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I don't think paying child support counts as slave labor. Let's leave the toils of slaves out of this one. " Imagine women being denied a voice regarding children sired from rape. Imagine if a mother was still legally obligated to support children who she placed up for adoption or abandoned." Isn't that what the facebook post is about? And how that is wrong? "Health spending on men's issues is abysmal compared to women's. No government agency specifically focuses on men's issues and very little …
/r/MensRights17/03/13 08:59 AM
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As in in the vast majority of cases the man who is raped does not have to pay child support, and generally when there is that odd ruling that he does it goes to the media and people get extremely upset by it.
/r/MensRights17/03/13 08:42 AM
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No I'm not. I'm banned from SRS. But thanks for trying to get the pitchforks raised against me. And a woman who isn't penetrated also doesn't count as rape, though in this report they qualify "attempted penetration". That is also the legal definition you will find of rape. It requires penetration. If there is no penetration, it is sexual assault. Applies for both males and females.
/r/MensRights17/03/13 08:39 AM
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I personally think this post is pointing out how similar situations applied to males would be seen as negative, so why when applied to women is it ok? Nowhere does it say that men have more rights. And isn't saying "It implies that the government is somehow picking on women, when in fact they have more rights than men do" playing oppression Olympics? Why can't we also be against the reproductive rights that women don't get?
/r/MensRights17/03/13 03:20 AM
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I just keep re-reading that post though and all of those things are things the government currently doesn't do to men... which is good, but all those things are arguably done (or are attempted to be done) to women. At no point in that facebook post does it say men have reproductive rights that can still be taken away... it was trying to make the point that applying similar situations to men does not make sense, so why does it get entertained for women? I don't see anywhere how it makes it seem l…
/r/MensRights17/03/13 03:13 AM
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I have been under the impression that the man who is raped being forced to pay for a child he never wanted, and a man who is duped into raising a child he thinks is his are the exception and not the rule. Could you provide some sources for that? I don't mean that as a challenge, I am just interested in learning more.
/r/MensRights17/03/13 02:53 AM
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I just don't like the idea that if something is "feminist" that instantly means it is bad for men's rights. Maybe I will get flak for this, but I personally believe men's rights and feminism share more in common than differences. I think a big problem both sides get into is this back and forth about who has it worse. But they shouldn't be compared in most cases. In the same way trying to argue whether or not the discrimination black people experience(d) is comparable to the discrimination that g…
/r/MensRights17/03/13 02:47 AM
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But I have a hard time seeing how this goes against male rights. Also isn't this most likely a reaction to the people in the GOP going on about the whole "mandatory transvaginal ultrasounds" and the other things trying to deny access to birth control and whatnot? I personally don't think that goes against male rights, does it? If anything, gender equality when it comes to reproductive rights is something both sides can agree on.
/r/MensRights17/03/13 01:47 AM
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Isn't this post also saying that men shouldn't have to go through any of those things either, which is a good thing? Or am I missing something here? Like maybe it makes it seem like women are lower on the totem pole for being denied reproductive rights, but it is ultimately saying that both men and women shouldn't have to go through any of those things. Maybe just personally I believe that this is the sort of thing that both MRA's and feminists can agree upon, that reproductive rights are up to …
/r/MensRights17/03/13 01:01 AM
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I think OP posed an interesting question and I am trying to think of an answer, so what sort of things have been taken when you say "nothing left to take"? Maybe the argument about the disparity between whom gets custody of a child during divorce? But I think that would be a big stretch for talking about "reproductive rights". Other than that I am having difficulty thinking of any.
/r/MensRights17/03/13 12:54 AM
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Some important information was left out that keeps being used in this thread over and over (probably because OP skipped over this). People keep saying "they defined rape in a way that makes it impossible to account men being raped by women" which is not true. On page 17 of the document it states, "Being made to penetrate someone else includes times when the victim was made to, or there was an attempt to make them, sexually penetrate someone without the victim’s consent because the victim was phy…
/r/MensRights17/03/13 12:03 AM
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Some important information was left out that keeps being used in this thread over and over (probably because OP skipped over this). People keep saying "they defined rape in a way that makes it impossible to account men being raped by women" which is not true. On page 17 of the document it states, "Being made to penetrate someone else includes times when the victim was made to, or there was an attempt to make them, sexually penetrate someone without the victim’s consent because the victim was phy…
/r/MensRights17/03/13 12:03 AM
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Isn't that the strawman argument?
/r/MensRights07/02/13 12:53 AM
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