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Sparklesnap/r/MensRights11/10/12 02:46 PM
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all I have to say about this is that it's happening in India, where they have a real issue with rapes going unreported and unpunished. While i agree that no person's word should be taken as "gospel truth", the problem is that so often in that country, when a person says they have been raped, nobody in the justice system takes them seriously, and often nothing is done about it.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 12:14 PM
1

Sorry to hear that, man.
/r/MensRights05/03/13 03:25 PM
1

Of course. He made his intentions clear, and she violated them.
/r/MensRights04/03/13 04:10 PM
1

Where are the indiciations in her writing she wanted to do it and co-operated??
/r/MensRights28/02/13 01:32 PM
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Consent is not all about what is said verbally. We do not know the whole of what occurred. Exactly my point; because we don't know what occurred, we have to go with what we do know, and we know she said no. We cannot know if she ever consented after this, especially if it's non-verbal. Why does he need to operate that way? Why is it wrong for someone to think 'she's into it, it's okay' if that's how they perceive the situation? That's what nonverbal consent is, no? Because non-verbal consent isn…
/r/MensRights28/02/13 01:31 PM
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She didn't tell him to stop; She didn't have to. She had already told him she didn't want to have sex. She doesn't need to resist again. He didn't have her consent to perform sexual actions. It's a rape, plain and simple.
/r/MensRights28/02/13 01:28 PM
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Obviously, NO. 1) screaming is verbal; verbal here simply means auditory. 2) I'm going copy paste this since so many people seem caught up on this; The reason verbal (spoken, auditory) consent is important here for 2 reasons; 1) her initial refusal was verbal (spoken, auditory) so consent is better if I comes in the same form. 2) the reason it is important is because all non-verbal (spoken, auditory) communication is very, very subjective and easy to misinterpret, and we CANNOT know or prove wha…
/r/MensRights28/02/13 01:23 PM
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I agree, but my question is this; If all he had to do to stop his life from being ruined was take 5 seconds to say "Are you sure about this?"... as a 19 year old man, facing a 16 year old girl... shouldn't he have done so? Shouldn't we EXPECT him to do so?
/r/MensRights28/02/13 04:48 AM
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False rape charges are definitely a big deal, but they're not an issue we should use to spearhead our "Men's Right's" charge. Think about it this way; When the Civil Rights movement got started, did they start by walking in and doing sit downs? No. The first wins of the Civil Rights movement were about Children being taught they were worse than other children because they were black, and about people being unconcionable jerks to them. We need to get more momentum and acceptance from people by sh…
/r/MensRights28/02/13 04:13 AM
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I agree; this guy didn't do that much wrong, and no, he's not WHOLLY responsible and probably doesn't deserve to be called a rapist; But we sure as hell shouldn't be making threads like "Girl who cried Rape" and nailing a 16 year old girl to the wall just because she didn't "resist enough." It's definitely a tough situation, but my feeling is that we have to go with the information we can KNOW or at least what we can best establish as fact. We are given no details of their interaction, just that…
/r/MensRights28/02/13 01:50 AM
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It doesn't matter if for is applied or implied by the other party; if I FEEL threatened/ intimidated, that's what counts.
/r/MensRights28/02/13 01:08 AM
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She does say clearly at the beginning she told him No. If someone receives a clear statement of refusal, they need receive a clear statement of consent before continuing, PERIOD.
/r/MensRights27/02/13 10:42 PM
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If she didn't take her own clothes off, however gently, was that a choice? If she didn't get in bed, he carried her there, was that a choice? My point is not that one cannot non-verbally consent. My point is that if a woman says "I like you, but I don't want to have sex with you." that refusal is not nullified because she isn't forcibly resisting. Period. Just because he didn't "scare" her doesn't mean she was not intimidated. I'm not saying he should have to stop and pull out a consent form for…
/r/MensRights27/02/13 10:41 PM
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1) i'm a guy, common mistake. 2) I'm relatively certain that if he was standing there the whole time, a defense of being forcibly intimidated into the act would stand up in court.
/r/MensRights27/02/13 10:30 PM
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True. But the problem is that now we're saying that as long as she didn't verbally say anything, it's not rape. What if she felt intimidated because he's 19? Is it okay then? She did in fact tell him that she did not want to have sex. After that, if he wants to have sex, he needs to get consent from her. Period! If a man says "I'm not ready for children, I don't want them yet." He and a girl have sex, the condom breaks, and she decides to keep the child and hold him liable for child support; by …
/r/MensRights27/02/13 09:13 PM
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It is the man's responsibility because she said she did not want to have sex. If she had said nothing, then her non-verbal consent was acceptable. But because she said no, then it's now his job to get a verbal consent after that. If a man tells his girlfriend "I'm not ready for children, I don't want them yet." He and said girl have sex, the condom breaks, and she decides to keep the child and hold him liable for child support; by having sex with her, he consented to having a child because sex i…
/r/MensRights27/02/13 09:07 PM
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The problem is that VERBAL communication, especially clear verbal communication like her clear "no" at the beginning, have to take precedence here. The young man in question, after receiving that VERBAL "no", and BEFORE attempting any sexual activity, needs to obtain a VERBAL "yes". Non-verbal communication does not trump verbal, no matter the timeline.
/r/MensRights27/02/13 06:26 PM
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I'm sorry, I've got to dissent from the majority here. She says "No" at the beginning and then says nothing; that's not consent, even if she lets it happen. I agree wholeheartedly that the idea of "no + yes = no" is total bullshit, and that all a woman has to do is say "no" once and then she can consent and it's still rape... but this girl (and she is a GIRL of 16.) Started out the encounter by telling this guy she did not want to have sex. Because she says no, it is then on HIM to get consent f…
/r/MensRights27/02/13 06:22 PM
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just frustrated that any attempt at sparking an actual debate about how we approach these issues is met with straw men, down-votes, and useless sarcasm.
/r/MensRights22/01/13 08:06 PM
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Fair. just upsetting when you're completely twisting everything i've said, just to grab some karma, while helping toss any chance of talking about my point out the window.
/r/MensRights22/01/13 06:38 PM
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So how do we fight that? My point is; why post the stupid reply? Ask THIS question, so we can discuss how to get through/around this, not the "hey, this reply is stupid!" post. That gets us nowhere.
/r/MensRights22/01/13 06:34 PM
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Ha. Because THIS comment furthers a discussion that gets us somewhere.
/r/MensRights22/01/13 06:33 PM
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I'm not. But feminism has repeatedly answer our reasonable and honest questions with vitriol and accusations of bigotry. Threads like this one are just an invitation for us to do the same. It serves no purpose. We know he's right, and the reply in OP's post is stupid and asinine. Why show it off? Karma? Sympathy? Or to get a bunch of us going "yeah! fuck them! they're dumb and won't engage us in debate!"
/r/MensRights22/01/13 06:31 PM
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No, you didn't. But my question to you is; Why post this? What do you hope to get from this? You had to know you were going to get answers like this. So why post this?
/r/MensRights22/01/13 06:29 PM
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How is this ignoring it? OP posted this, that's not ignoring it. Ignoring it is giving it your downvote, and moving on, not bringing it up in a r/MensRights post so everyone can pile on. We won't win our rights by engaging in a smear fight with feminists, or trying to shout them down. Just keep talking. We don't need to see a post about every idiot who call us bigots. We can't convince people feminists are the crazy ones by acting crazy & victimized. We have to act like reasonable, rational, sym…
/r/MensRights22/01/13 06:20 PM
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Keep trying. The harder it is to get them to have the discussion, the more you need to have it with them. Keep trying; you'll get there.
/r/MensRights22/01/13 11:37 AM
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So just because one moron on the internet won't talk to you, we should give up trying to have a civil discourse? Sheesh. Glad i'm not trying to get you to commit long-term to anything remotely difficult. I know that this is a straw man; clearly it's not just one idiot. But what did you expect? You knew people wouldn't want to talk about it. You knew people wouldn't be logical. Just because they're idiots doesn't give us a right to be; in fact, it makes it more imperative that we keep pushing and…
/r/MensRights22/01/13 11:36 AM
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Here's the thing; I completely understand why that would be down-voted, and rightly so; it's a place to discuss feminism not Men's Rights. Just like how we would be like "what are you doing here, go away!" if someone posted about how females are often discriminated against in the workplace. Those of you who say "but they won't let us talk about Men's Rights in r/Feminism!!" are forgetting something fundamental about subreddits; they're specifically designed to be about ONE issue. Just like posts…
/r/MensRights15/01/13 12:38 AM
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I agree; walking into the r/feminism subreddit and trying to talk to them is a bad idea. But the concept behind that poster is too often forgotten in this sub, at least IMHO. We so often throw up stories of men being discriminated against, or stories of women being close-minded feminist jerks, but so rarely do we actually see posts, even here, about how to actually further a discussion, or start one, or how we can try talk to people and have them listen.
/r/MensRights14/01/13 07:00 PM
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That's a fair point, but threads like this one scare me as an MRA because it seems like we're focusing too much energy on bashing feminists or a specific group of feminists, when we should be doing more to try to facilitate a dialogue, not just between individuals, but between groups
/r/MensRights14/01/13 06:58 PM
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This post is a turning point in r/MensRights. We love to talk about how the Feminists kicked out the reasonable members of their movement, condemn them, shun then, force them to shut up or get out because they wanted to talk to the male population who was causing these issues (and yes, there were problems with how the male population viewed women in the 60s & 70s). Here, today, we've done exactly the same thing. Everyone who's commenting not in support of "they won't discuss so why should we!! F…
/r/MensRights14/01/13 01:31 PM
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You can file for divorce because you woke up with a head cold if you want to. Bottom line; this isn't about his partner with-holding sex. This is about his partner deciding that she has more say over his body than he does.
/r/MensRights21/11/12 10:11 PM
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This. She has no right to tell you what you can and cannot do. My advice to you is to do these things, in this order. Sit down with her and have as Rational, calm and open discussion with her about the topic as you can. Explain why you do not want more children, and allow her to explain why she does want more. Explain why you feel threatened by her telling you what to do with your body, and ask her how she would feel if you told her she couldn't get her tubes tied. Tell her you feel trapped by t…
/r/MensRights21/11/12 03:02 PM
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Bro Grabs. For realz.
/r/MensRights20/11/12 03:44 PM
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/r/MensRights20/11/12 03:43 PM
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This. Honest to gods truth is that you dodged a bullet there, man. Never stick your dick in crazy. It's never never worth it. Anyways, yeah. Stay away, period, end of discussion. Just make sure you keep all her correspondence so you have records proving she was asking for the sexual contact.
/r/MensRights13/11/12 01:48 PM
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This. Calmly ask her if she still thinks you enjoyed it. If she persists, tell her, politely but in no uncertain terms that you neither enjoyed nor appreciated it, and politely ask her to have a conversation with her friend.
/r/MensRights12/11/12 05:40 AM
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Tell me you're kidding. Please. I know that assault doesn't require physical violence, but seriously? How is asking a simple question a crime?
/r/MensRights26/10/12 03:59 PM
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I know it wasn't created for pleasure, but that's what it's use is now. Nobody has ever died from ED, nobody's lives were ruined.
/r/MensRights12/10/12 05:55 PM
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I know that's not true for the Congressional health-care package, and if it's not true elsewhere, the Social Right is fighting to make it true.
/r/MensRights12/10/12 04:51 PM
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as an MRA who's SO is trying to become a doctor; there are still many many fields out there where women are looked down upon, where it is harder to break into that field if you are woman, simply because you are a woman. Birth Control is not covered under many health insurance plans, while viagra is; One has a medically sound use, the other is a drug created almost purely for pleasure. America's Maternity Leave laws are atrocious. Their Paternity laws are worse, but that's a different issue. Many…
/r/MensRights12/10/12 02:03 PM
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This warms the cockles of my heart to see them accept our movement as valid! I'll be more than happy unsub as soon as they decide that 2x is no longer a needed advocacy group either.
/r/MensRights11/10/12 11:38 PM
2

Thanks :)
/r/MensRights11/10/12 06:29 PM
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My response to that trash is this; Women who watched the olympics; did you watch the men do fencing? or did you watch swimming and water polo? WHY.
/r/MensRights11/10/12 06:25 PM
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Sue who? The person who calls and orders 12 pizzas to your house every night for 2 weeks getting you blacklisted from ever ordering pizza in your town? The person who starts emailing inappropriate pictures to the company you work for under your name? How do you find them? Who exactly do you sue?
/r/MensRights11/10/12 05:55 PM
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Guys, I don't understand why we post this kind of thing. Don't get me wrong; this woman is clearly ignorant. But why get mad? Unless you know this woman, chances are you'll never get to talk to her, and have zero chance of changing her mind. So really, getting all worked up about it isn't worth the effort. To OP; are you looking for advice on how to change her mind? We can help with that. Are you looking for other people to be angry and victimized with you? I won't be joining that party. Yes, sh…
/r/MensRights01/10/12 02:58 PM
1

In the words of one of my co-workers (a 60 year old divorcee) if you're going to advertise, i'm going to window shop.
/r/MensRights10/09/12 02:28 PM
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I disagree. Not only do I think that ACTA/PIPA/SOPA Aren't about kids, I dont think the "if it saves one kid" is "fucking bullshit". If you're using to unconvinced everyone and hide your spying, sure. But in this case, I'm talking about someone seeing something suspicious, and politely, immediately, without vitriol or bluster, inquiring about the situation. Not trying to blatantly destroy people's rights. Not trying to fight problems that don't exist with legislation that won't fix a thing. Simp…
/r/MensRights07/09/12 04:53 PM
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Is that really a "for the kids!" argument? Or is it a "God says its wrong" argument. I know that they work in "for the kids!" but really they protest it for religious reasons.
/r/MensRights07/09/12 02:27 PM
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I agree with all of this. And none of what I wrote is meant to contradict this in any way. I'm just happy there are people willing to step outside their bubble and question things they see as "wrong." Should it just because it's a man with that small child? NO, never. Should It happen more often to women than it does? Absolutely. But at least there are people willing to ask. And in the case of the comment I originally responded to, at least the guy was polite and accepted the kid's answer with n…
/r/MensRights07/09/12 02:26 PM
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... I'm sorry, you're going to have to elaborate. Don't get me wrong, I think I have an idea of where this is going, but I want to know what "oppressions" you're specifically thinking of.
/r/MensRights07/09/12 01:45 PM
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And that's bad. But I am happier that some people do get stopped, rather than just assuming that everything is okay. Do people need to be polite about it and accept the answers they're given? Yes. Do people need to make more reasonable judgement calls than "He's too young to be that girl's father!" or "He'a black and that little girl is white!" or even just "That man looks creepy!"? Of course. But are you really going to tell me that you're upset about being stopped in the street if EVEN ONCE it…
/r/MensRights07/09/12 12:11 PM
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Really? So you're saying that it's really that bad that people are trying to keep small children from being kidnapped? Or are you just spouting truisms that lack any sort of meaning because you think it'll get you karma?
/r/MensRights07/09/12 12:05 PM
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So, while he was bang out of order, at least he was nice. He truly had good intentions. Most people are self-righteous douchebags who swoop in for no reason. I can't speak for that guy, but the way he addressed you, my guess is that he felt something was "off" and felt compelled to ask. As bad as this behavior is, it's worse that it doesn't happen to women as often as to men, but that's my only complaint. It's better than people always assuming that everything is okay. Like I said above though, …
/r/MensRights06/09/12 11:15 PM
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Dunk a basketball? Checkmate.
/r/MensRights30/08/12 12:13 PM
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