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Yeah, I heard it framed that women just need to keep off the weight, and men have to keep off the weight and do a full gym routine. I go to the gym a few times a week, but I couldn't imagine looking like most of the men posted on that sub. I don't have the free time to workout that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 07:15 PM
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Why are all the men on there covered in muscles that would take most men a year+ of consistent workouts to achieve? I thought I was told women don't like muscles on men?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 06:50 PM
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The dating pool is very messy. You can be a pretty well adjusted, successful woman and struggle in dating. Because there is a lot of noncommittal, childish, or you're not into them. It can feel isolating. It's basically be single until something magical shows up. This is basically how I feel, but as a man. I really don't think a lot of the dating problems men and women experience are that different, we just experience the symptoms in different ways. As we get older, I think all the issues you li…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 06:41 PM
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I think it's a veneer belief to make them look good, but at the end of the day everyone knows there are leagues in dating. A famous movie star isn't going to date a Starbucks barista.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 05:22 PM
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Yup - I often hear women on different subreddits say women are just as sexual as men (and maybe some are) but I think most women are in the dark about how male brains just automatically make a sexual attractiveness assessment of every woman we see. I used to feel very ashamed that my brain did that, but now I just kind of accept it's what my biology does.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 02:33 PM
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If you're a decent looking guy, women will approach in bars. Happened to me last week. Women are looking for connections too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 02:28 PM
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This is an overgeneralization but generally left wing people believe in egalitarianism and right wing people believe there is a hierarchy, which fits in more with red pill beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 02:25 PM
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This is so true. It definitely goes both ways and I can see how it's jarring for women to find out how men think. I grew up with an extremely feminist mom, and a lot of the typical ways that male brains work, I was told were sexist. So when I started to do those things, I thought something was wrong with me. Being in the dark about all this is probably best for both sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 02:13 PM
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Leave my skinny jeans alone!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 05:20 PM
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Yeah, I'm not sure how common it is. I know in my mid 20's though I had a lot of mingling in my social group. That's when I lived in my prior city and I had a really solid established friend group where people would bring outsiders to events and parties I typically hosted.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 07:59 PM
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Expanding your social circle as a way to meet women isn't as simple as making friends. We're so isolated in today's society that meeting people in group settings feels pretty rare. I moved to my current city in a relationship, so I didn't make as many new friends. When that relationship ended, I felt I didn't have enough friends now that I was single, so I made an intentional effort to develop as many friendships as possible. I'm generally fairly social and outgoing despite being introverted by …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 07:47 PM
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I'll take being a big fish in a small pond.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 11:33 PM
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Seems to work for me? Maybe I'm an in denial top tier man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 11:08 PM
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Exactly. I don't get this whole obsession with cold approach. If you get out there, it's not hard to meet women in a space, chat in a group setting, and then ask to see her one on one.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 07:35 PM
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Thanks for sharing your story. This man sounds like he's a coward. If I had to guess what was happening on his end, once you had sex he had the realization that you weren't for him. But the fact he couldn't even give you a fair explanation is so pathetic. If he had sent you a text the next day to end things, and didn't ghost you when he made plans, how would you have felt?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 02:13 AM
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They have more latitude with some women, but not all. I'd say most men fall into the average category, so ultimately it doesn't really matter to the majority of men since most would be considered creepy for complimenting random women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 02:00 PM
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The attractive versus unattractive man is a red herring. Hot men can be creepy as well, I've seen it. I'd have to imagine a big part of what makes a man creepy to a woman is when the man does the action. If I tell someone I've been dating for a while that their eyes are beautiful, she's smile and blush - it's not creepy at all. If I tell a random woman at the grocery store she has beautiful eyes, it's creepy. If I've been chatting with a woman that I just met, and I can tell there are signs she'…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 12:40 PM
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Exactly. How do you even seek those women out in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 02:29 AM
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If you want to read a story about how something like this played out, check out David Reimer. The man who pioneered a lot of these ideas like gender is malleable was John Money. He is unbelievably fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 11:58 PM
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I'm bi, so I've been around enough gay men and gay communities on reddit to say that yeah they like big dicks. I suppose a gay man who is exclusively a bottom could maybe not have it mean as much. This is just an aside, but I'd almost go as far as saying the gay male community has higher standards for how men look than hetero dating. Imagine the lust levels of men, but then projected on the body standards of other men. The amount of gay men who are in great shape, groom super well, and dress ama…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 11:51 PM
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Jesus fucking Christ. I didn't read that far down earlier, but that's so messed up. It's not like sex reassignnment surgery is that great these days anyway, so back then having it be recommended is so awful. Like, did they suddenly expect these men to become attracted to men as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 11:47 PM
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0.6% of men have one, apparently. Statically, there are multiple micropenis having men subscribed to this sub. From this distribution curve I found, 50% of penises are below 5 inches, which is kind of wild to me. I figured they'd be less people that small. Found this interesting as well. So most people are about 4 inches or bigger. As shown, 95% of erect penises fall within the range of 9.8 cm (3.86 in) to 16.44 cm (6.47 in). Also, it is interesting to note that the stretched flaccid penis is qu…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 11:44 PM
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I wish there was an easy way for women with conditions like yours to meetup with men who don't need, or can't have PIV. Everyone deserves to have a fulfilling sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 11:39 PM
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Yeah, porn has thrown everything off for everyone. At least based on the stats I looked up, my penis is way above average, but porn makes me feel like I must be average.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 11:37 PM
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Yeah, but to get good with your mouth it takes practice. Also, just from my experience different women like oral in different ways, so it takes practice with that specific woman as well. It'd imagine it's hard to get that practice if you have a micropenis. some space for this to lead to a more satisfying sex life for the woman Isn't the penis itself a turn on for women? I've done sexual stuff with men, and the penis itself it visually hot. It doesn't need to be huge, but there is something sexy …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 11:35 PM
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I'd agree that penis size is a bit of an overrated metric. A lot of the pleasure nerves in a vagina are near the front. But from just having looked up what a micropenis looks like, it's not just a small dick. I don't see how you could have intercourse with one. That's gonna be a dealbreaker for almost every single woman. I guess there might be a woman who's asexual who might be ok with that kind of man. But in today's dating world where there are a lot of options and you don't have to settle, I …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 10:09 PM
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Just from googling micropenises, it's hard to imagine pretty much any woman wanting to settle down with a man who has one. They're really small. Seems to be equal to not having a dick at all. I feel for men who have one, that's gotta be a rough lot in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 10:07 PM
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Just to explain the story a bit more, I was talking about how I told my father I forgave him and then he cried. There was no manipulation there, I had already forgiven him. He cried because he felt that I should hate him for the rest of my life, but I didn't hold onto that resentment and told him I wanted him in my life. So, he was overcome with happiness. It wasn't him crying to me, begging to let him back into my life. Regardless, even if she did have a manipulative man in her life who did thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 02:13 PM

Nice!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 06:44 PM

Ashe was my main for years. Are you playing ADC or sup Ashe?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 06:18 PM
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I just want to say, good on you for recognizing your attachment style. I think a lot of avoidant people just ignore their attachment issues. I'm avoidant leaning, but it's still impact me at times. It's really hard for outsiders to understand it's more than just "I don't like you". It doesn't always make sense even to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 02:51 AM
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I was talking to a friend tonight, and he told me as soon as he gets close to anyone, it freaks him out and he leaves even if he liked them before. It's a common pattern for him, and many other people. You can stop liking someone and breakup without getting the same overwhelming feeling to run.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 02:48 AM
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Yeah, I think a lot of men miss this fact. I'm friends with and dated women who use reddit, but they almost never engage in comments. The women who are actively commenting are a minority of women, of an already small minority of women who use reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 02:29 AM
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Oh, I bet the woman who has nothing get to them is just repressing it. I think when I hear insecure, I think of the REALLY insecure people I've dated, so maybe that is skewing my perspective here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 01:34 AM
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Having dated them, they can be their own handful. I'd rather date a woman who was secure in herself because it's easier to be secure yourself. Nobody is 100% secure, obviously though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 01:27 AM
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Yes, I agree. I'm insecure in ways and I want someone who can relate. I wouldn't want to date a girl who constantly said things like "I'm so ugly" all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 01:25 AM
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Having dated a man who had such low self-esteem that it came out in almost everything we did, yeah it was a turn off over time. I wanted to support him but after awhile it just became a burden. He took no action to improve, but constantly expected to be coddled. There are healthy and unhealthy ways to express your insecurities.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 09:44 PM
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I actually remember reading dating advice from Female Dating Strategy a long time ago called "blood in the water". The idea was to make up an insecurity you didn't care much about and see how the man reacts. So, maybe something like I hate my knees, they're so ugly. Then see if the man makes fun of you for your knees. I didn't intentionally do this on a date, but once I brought up reconnecting with my biological father and mentioned that he cried because I forgave him for leaving me as a child. …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 07:13 PM
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"Insecurity is a real turn-off in men," I'd actually kind of agree with women on this one, insecurity is a turn off for men with women as well. The way most men are insecure can be a real turn off because they turn it into a pity party instead of taking action or ownership. When I hear women complain about insecure men, that's normally what it seems to mean in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 07:07 PM
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Exactly! If someone expresses a different experience than one I personally understand, I try to trust them to know what their needs are. I think some people take it so personally, that we'd rather be with nobody than them, but it's not like that at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:05 PM

I have a friend who sleeps with a lot of women, and he was telling me about one woman he's sleeping with who's become jaded that she can't find a serious partner. So now she goes on dates and passive aggressively goes at men who say they want a serious relationship, while sleeping with my friend casually who is as old as her father. It's a whole can of worms.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 09:25 PM
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Honestly, that sounds really reasonable. The last girlfriend I had, we ended up splitting up because I wanted a few hours in the afternoon to do some personal creative work after spending the entire weekend with her. I told her sometimes I'll need to have some space to be on my own, and she couldn't accept that. It really seemed to upset her that I wanted to spend time without her, to the point that it made her cry. I tried to reassure her that I did want to spend time with her, but I also need …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 09:18 PM
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The downside is that I find most of the men I like tend to get ‘clingy’ a bit too fast for me, so I don’t particularly focus on dating anymore. I see women say this a lot, that some men are too clingy. What is too clingy for you? I'm always interested to hear a woman's perspective on this. When I'm excited to get to know a girl, I'll put in effort, but the line between effort and clingy seems so blurred these days. My effort might be clingy to some, but not enough for others. How do I show to wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 03:00 PM

I've only cold approached a few times, and it never went anywhere. The kind of girl I'm into are introvert shy girls, so I imagine that's the worst kind of woman to cold approach. I think warm approach is the best option. Let her see who you are in some context, maybe even a few times if it's a reoccuring event like a sports team, and then talk to her and ask if she wants to grab a coffee. When I've asked out girls this way, I've always gotten at least a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 01:07 AM
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I'm not gonna try to tell you it won't be harder for you to meet women if you're not extroverted and charismatic. It definitely will be harder. I guess one good thing to keep in mind is that the female version of you is likely not out there getting hit on by Mr.Smooth, or at least not in those spaces as much. I kind of struggle with this myself. I'm naturally pretty introverted, so I just don't meet a lot of women despite the fact I consider myself a decent catch. The situation really just comes…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 01:01 PM

If they don't watch sports, whatever. But the men who think of themselves as enlightened for not watching sports have a lot of anti-social behaviour in my experience. Sports are a big part of our culture and community, and proudly saying you don't like that is odd.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 05:55 PM

Someone hasn't watched Topgun.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 05:50 PM

Agreed. We're naturally tribal and competitive. Sports is a healthy way for men to express that. If they don't do it through sports, it'll come out in other ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 04:42 PM

I had always dated skinny women and wanted to try dating thicker girls. Some of it's nice, and I wouldn't be opposed to it long term if I met the right person, but there is something nice about the girl being really small and delicate. It's also easier to have good sex with smaller girls, something I didn't realize.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 04:39 PM

Men who proudly say they don't watch sports and wear it as a badge of honour should be a red flag for all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 04:37 PM

The issue with how the stats are presented and how men think about them - in a vacuum. Of course all else being equal, the man with more money is going to be more desirable. But humans are more complex than that and we value different things. The cute Starbucks barista might make the girl laugh, they can talk about music they both like, and they both love spending the afternoon reading in the park. The rich man might be better looking and all that, but if he can't share those kind of moments wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 04:12 PM
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For me, it's not that they need the same hobbies, but I'm a creative person and I want to date someone who enjoys being creative. They could like making clothes, painting, and photography, all hobbies I don't have, but we'd be able to appreciate the creative aspect of them. Creative folks have a certain mindset, and I just gel with them really well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 04:11 PM
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Yup, exactly. It's like a form of self-sabotage. Once they get into a relationship with a woman who loves them, they'll still let the "she wants to fuck an alpha" seep into the relationship and poison it over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:24 PM
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This sums up the sub well. A lot of the men here wonder why women won't have sexy with them, while also making these broad claims that all women having whorish sex with these "Chads". No wonder women avoid them - if someone makes broad generalized claims about women like that, they will likely jump to conclusions in other areas of their life. Feels like a lot of men here would be very toxic in relationships. I don't say that from a place of bashing, but I hope some of the dudes here can recogniz…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:16 PM
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A number of the things you list are almost contradictions. The religious girl probably won't want a tattooed guy. I don't know you, but when you find a woman who really clicks with you, a lot of those smaller things won't matter. 5'10 is actually a great height and outside of dating apps I don't think it'll stop you from picking up a woman at all. I know it's hard man, there always seems to be this one guy out there whos "better" than you. But trust me, you'll find a woman who's loves the fact y…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 01:04 AM
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What kind of dealbreakers are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 09:49 PM
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I don't know to be honest. But my point is money and status don't always mean everything. And this other dude was more traditionally masculine than I was for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 01:44 PM
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Well, to be blunt, if your personality sucks and your looks suck then yeah it's going to be hard to attract a woman. Looks you can only improve a bit - I do think getting in really good shape is pretty attractive but it only does so much. Personality is something you can work on though. Being positive, and empathic are both things you can improve. I know from my own experience I've learned to become more empathic and understanding as I've gotten older and women I've dated have pointed out how th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 01:23 PM
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Timothee Chalamet is way hotter to me than Henry Cavill. Men just seem to think a guy who can fight six orcs at once is the most attractive a man can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 02:35 AM
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I mean, it literally happened to me. I am 6' tall, and am fairly attractive, if that helps make the story more believable for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 02:34 AM
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Agree with this. Men on this sub are too obsessed with being Henry Cavill level hot that 95% of women are sexually attracted too. They don't think about the flipside - most women aren't Natalie Portman either. I see women who have men who are very attracted to them, and they do nothing for me. Most of us fall into that average category where maybe some people are a more common type, but generally someone will be into you. I think women's attraction is a lot more malleable than men care to admit …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 06:38 PM
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When I was younger and in university, the girl who ended up pursing me had a number of men after her. She's objectively very attractive and did modeling later on so it's not like she was below average - she always had men orbiting her and trying to get with her. One of them was a man who was 5ish years older than me, owned a home, car, and was very physical fit (I believe he was a firefighter). I'd say he was more conventionally attractive than me as well. According to this sub, he'd a be a "Cha…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 06:28 PM
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I don't disagree with you, how you describe it is how I approach it. I think women still complain about being asked out at all on reddit though. Admittedly, I think those women may be a vocal minority, but when those are the only voices we hear online, it starts to make things feel more challenging for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 07:37 PM
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Yup, agreed. The "trying to date is a red flag" and "being too nice" is a red flag just makes me want to throw in the towel. I get how a man going overboard would be off-putting, but just being invested early on and showing interest seems to turn women off. And I feel like as you get older (I'm in my early 30's) more of those women are left in the dating pool, and more women become that way because they're wary of men. But at the same time, if you're too distant, that's a red flag as well. It's …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 06:52 PM
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Exactly. Wish there were better ways to meet women. I know women on reddit will be like "do x or y" but then also say things like "don't go out there with the intention to get a girlfriend". So, we're supposed to intentionally do things outside our normal routine so we can meet women, but also pretend we aren't looking for a girlfriend. It's like complex song and dance that makes no sense. This is why the men who are players are cleaning up right now because they just do whatever the fuck they w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 06:32 PM
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I get your advice, but I think it's really not going to work out for most men. I'd say most men can tell if they're interested in a woman after meeting her once. It's kind of hard to just approach it as a normal social situation once you've crossed that threshold of having romantic interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 12:56 PM
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It's like they don't want us or something. Huh.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 12:55 PM
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No way in hell I'd risk asking out a woman at work.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 12:54 PM
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I'm actually planning on doing some co-Ed sports once I recover from a surgery I had. I used to do them when I wasn't single, and it's true, there are a lot of women there.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 12:53 PM
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It's an arms race to find out where the single women are. You can see on women's communities on reddit they talk about how Meetup groups are full of men who are trying to get dates. And to be fair, they're not wrong. I've gone to Meetup stuff in hopes of meeting women. So now women are likely avoiding those spaces as the Reddit advice has sent single men there in droves. The truth is, men are lacking ORGANIC ways to meet women. Like friends of friends, or at parties. I remember meeting women uns…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 01:15 AM
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I've heard this phrased as women need to be the adorer and men need to be adored for the relationship to work. I personally think it's dumb, it should be equal, but just based on my own experience relationships do seem more stable when the man is being adored by the woman instead of vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 06:18 PM

Yeah, I’ve never had a woman be mean about rejection either. Generally they’re really nice and overly kind. I think the men who are getting these extreme rejections are leaving out the part they’re playing in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 10:16 PM
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I think someone who’s 100% externally motivated would be off putting, but for most men it’s probably a mixture of internal and external. Not every man can be a Buddhist monk who doesn’t care about the external world. I’d say it’s largely the same for women. We’re social animals, we can what others think about us because we need to be in others good graces to survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 09:00 PM
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To be clear, I’m not saying the woman has to tell him to improve his life. But gaining or maintaining the attraction of a woman is a pretty big motivator for men. I’d hazard to guess it’s how male brains function differently than female ones. Given how lots of male mammals try to impress the females to get access to mating, it’d make sense human males would be motivated highly to do things for access to human females.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 08:29 PM
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I guess your last part is what I mean. The motivation to impress a woman is often the impetus to make change for a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 08:15 PM
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I’ve heard similar things from other bi women. It sounds like a sexist trope, but men are generally more chill and less demanding - probably for a lot of the reasons you listed. From my experience dating men, it was a lot easier going, but also harder in different ways because men tend to not open up.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 06:47 PM
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I used to date an anxiously attached person who was an extreme perfectionist, so I don’t think it always manifests as avoidance.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 06:45 PM
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I can see that. I also think a lot of men’s issues often stem from not feeling valued enough so being in a relationship can help fix that. I wonder if there is something to what you said, where women need to figure out themselves outside a relationship, and men are better at figuring out themselves in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 06:44 PM
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Holy shit. I’ve never had it explained or thought about it this way but you’re spot on. I’ve dated women who did exactly this and I couldn’t put my finger on why. I picked up they wanted things to be perfect, but I didn’t get why they couldn’t accept things as they were and go with the flow as you say. It’s a contradiction in a sense because the more they strive to be perfect, the less perfect they are. The more they run towards something, the more the further away it gets. I’ve seen women just …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 12:11 PM
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This is what I find in Toronto as well. Getting dates isn’t the hard part but finding someone you click with is. After awhile it feels like you’re just wasting your time and you get burnt out.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 09:06 PM
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Exactly. Huge whoosh moment from the Korean government.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 04:32 PM
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I think people dismiss that we’re just animals because most of it is happening on a level we aren’t conscious of. For instance, there is a lot of evidence to point towards men being more attracted to women in their peak fertility window, and women being more sexually open during their peak fertility window. I’m curious if other men have experienced this, but sometimes a woman I didn’t feel particularly attracted to suddenly becomes attractive for a short period of time, I wonder if that’s what h…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 12:10 PM
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Probably because we don’t feel the need to talk about the positive ones because they’re not as interesting. I’m a man, but I feel a strong paternal instinct around children. I want to protect, care, and interact with them even though it’s not beneficial to me, persay. I’d say we overly focus on the negative as humans on most things. It’s far more interesting to understand why someone is a serial killer than why a couple wants to have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 11:55 AM
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I think there is some truth to this. From 18-25 you should be focus on finding yourself and figuring out who you are as an adult. But I’d also say that if that self discovery is just partying and sleeping with random men, that’s not particularly valuable self discovery.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 05:30 PM

Hmmmm, I’ve often wondered this myself. I feel like what might happen is because things do seem like they could be really good and progress into a LTR, the reality faces them in a way it hadn’t before and if they’re not ready or in a place for a relationship, it becomes clear. So basically being “perfect” would trigger that response sooner.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 12:42 PM

Half of a joke is delivery and setup. If you have a girl relaxed and comfortable, she’ll be more open to being a goof.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 12:19 PM

I agree somewhat, but I also believe it’s totally possible for them to improve. I was a social outcast and a loser who got bullied all the time. I couldn’t make eye contact with others when I was 12. I learned my social skills doing drama camps and practicing improv. I became really good at finding interesting things to say, sharing my opinion in a non-confrontational way, and slipping in a good dose of humour. When I was a kid I recognized this was an important skill so I made myself uncomforta…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 12:18 PM
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I understand what you mean, but I think an easy way to deal with that is to talk about your life. I have multiple hobbies, socialize 2-3 times a week, go to concerts, do freelance work, and go to the gym. After one date, it should be pretty easy for a woman to realize I have a life even if I text her back quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 11:39 PM
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Honestly, most of the women I’ve dated recently had social media, but basically never used it. Huge green flag for me if a woman isn’t posting on Instagram all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 04:38 PM
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Yeah, I was going to comment the same thing. I’ve seen FAR too many women in my life make comments about men with muscles to not take it at least a little bit seriously. And from my own experience, women make position comments about the muscles I’ve developed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 10:19 AM
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/s means I’m being sarcastic. Obviously men wouldn’t know.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 03:23 AM

It’s weird how interested the brain is in itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 12:16 AM
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All the women asking how would we know are clueless. Every man knows, it’s obvious /s
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 08:17 PM

My favourite thing about PPD is how all the men tell me I’m attractive. Makes me feel special ☺️
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 07:52 PM

I was picturing Danny Devito actually 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 06:57 PM

I don’t know about you but I’d rather hang out with the ugly fun person than the boring attractive person. But to each of their own
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 06:56 PM

Aka: people who are popular are attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 06:54 PM

I don’t think I was naturally charming and funny, but I intentionally put effort into it in my teens years. Which meant a lot of awful jokes that never landed. Maybe I always had it in me, but I think it’s something you can polish over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 06:37 PM

Men here often fail to realize how important it is for women to enjoy spending time around you. You’d think it would be obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 06:30 PM

Your last part is so true. I’ve had women say the moment they started to like me was when I made the whole room laugh and it just clicked for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 06:06 PM
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I always offer to pay, but all the women I’ve gone on second dates with always offer to get the next one and they always do. I appreciate that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 04:26 AM
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Whoa, I was so confused by reading your paragraph because that’s exactly what happened to me too hahaha. I was like, how did he know what happened to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 03:58 AM
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What a sad reality we live in. Teachers of our children are so underpaid we’re talking about them doing porn for some side cash. Our society is so fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 12:55 AM
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I’ve never had a woman pay for the first date but I’ve had them split the bill. Actually, wait I did have a woman play for the coffees before since she arrived early.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 12:05 AM
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Yup, it’s an odd fascination. I want to get married because I love the person, not because I’m being chained down. These parties have so many opportunities to do cool themes. I was engaged before, and my party was going to be going on a scavenger hunt around the city, going from pub to pub to find clues and at the end of the night I’d find a sword that we used to cut the wedding cake. A friend of mine is getting married in a few months and he’s throwing a survivor themed bachelor party where the…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 01:48 PM
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Hahaha what is this post? I’ve seen so many storylines about bachelor parties having strippers. Either sex having strippers at their bachelor/bachelorette is unbelievably classless and anti-marriage. The part about bachelorette parties that does weird me out is the penis shaped everything. Penis cake. Penis ice cubes. Penis party favours. I definitely don’t want a vagina cake at my bachelor party.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 01:28 PM

Alright, I’ll believe you. Interesting that you consider yourself blue pill because you’re living the dream of many red pill men. If you don’t mind me asking, how did you meet your wives? It’s hard imagining the average woman being ok with that setup.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 12:30 PM

I don’t settle, so you’re wrong there. Maybe you’re confusing being realistic with settling. I’d love to date Natalie Portman, but I know what’s reasonable. I’d agree women are happier being single, but I think men can get to that point as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 11:57 AM

My apologies, assumed you believed in the women only believe 20% of men are attractive rule. Why do you think women are more shallow?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 10:41 AM

I’d argue women have been brainwashed into not wanting these things under the guise of feminism. I’m not a huge anti-feminist but I don’t think it always has women’s interests at heart. Women are more than baby making machines, but it’s in our biological programming for both sexes to want kids. Our messed up dopamine fueled culture has made ignoring these urges easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 10:16 AM

Having seen bad marriages from the era when women were forced into them, I don’t think these women would claim emotional attraction. These women are just overall resentful of their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 10:13 AM

I’d agree with this frustration. I’ve experienced it myself. I’d say in real life I have a lot of people say I’m kind, and my normal demeanour is really friendly. But that doesn’t always translate into dating success. Not to generalize, but I think maturing is realizing the world isn’t always going to be fair. A lot of the time it’s just being lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 10:07 AM

I’d agree on dating apps it’s a barrier to entry. That’s why dating apps aren’t a good idea for most men. I think so many of the problem complains about on here are just due to the nature of apps. I’d even say myself that the majority of women in dating apps aren’t attractive to me. Photos are the same as meeting a person IRL. I’ve met many women in happy relationships who have actually told me they wouldn’t have swiped on their partners if they saw them on an app. I’ve had women said they becam…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 10:03 AM

So I guess we should just stay single forever then and not try?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 09:56 AM
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I don’t know how many times this has to be stated in this sub, but women are normally attracted to men physically and emotionally. When you combine emotional attraction with the physical suddenly a lot more men become attractive to women. But emotional attraction takes time. Yes, there are probably some men that are obviously so attractive the emotional side needs to be less. Deal with it. Make your emotional side more attractive to women. Problem solved. So many men here are very convinced wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 05:18 AM
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Honestly, the women I’ve met who don’t identify as feminists tend to have more red flags in my experience. Although it’s not a lot of experience, since not a lot of women do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:46 PM
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Bearmaxxing is the new trend
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 06:03 PM
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Yeah, women can smell desperation a mile away. A lot of men here are their own worse enemy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 05:57 PM

Nah, that’s not a bad idea. I generally end up adding them on social media and commenting on their stuff, helps build rapport. Sometimes they don’t engage back though so I leave them alone. I have a lot of female friends, but I’d say generally I made them through friends of friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 05:02 PM

I’m gonna guess the conversation probably didn’t go as well as you thought then. Sometimes you gotta make effort with women for friendships as well because they don’t want to come across as being into you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 04:55 PM

Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 04:13 PM
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This guy purple pill debates
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 03:58 PM
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I’ve asked the same thing before and people on this sub just get mad. They completely deny men have some level of selection as well. Apparently a bunch of them have had women cast a magical spell on them and they can’t leave. Dudes, if a woman ain’t doing it for you do the self respecting thing and leave. And if you can’t see yourself leaving, work on your self esteem. No self respecting woman is going to be attracted to a man who would never leave her no matter what.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 03:55 PM

I’d be friends with Jabba the Hut if we could have a good conversation over dinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 03:48 PM
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I'm sorry that happened to you. If the men weren't really into, they still should have been respectful towards you instead of treating you that way. If I had to guess what happened, you're probably an attractive woman who they knew was objectively societally attractive, but they personally weren't crazy about you. So they were in this place where they wanted to keep you because it made them "feel good" about getting a pretty girl, but didn't genuinely want to be with you. Thus, they used you lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:19 PM
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Maybe it’s just seeing a bit of light on this dark dark sub, but I teared up a bit reading this comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 08:10 AM
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I in no way intend this but every girl I end up dating is Eastern European descent. So I guess I have a type 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 12:16 AM
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That’s why men would rather be in a relationship with a bear. Much safer.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 10:04 PM
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I love how any time lesbians come up in this sub, one of you is so quick bring up lesbian domestic abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 09:09 PM
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This is just my experience with bi women, but they always seem to come back around to “yeah, I like dick too much”. Lesbians basically refuse to date bi women for a reason. And before anybody comes in with the biphobia accusation, I’m a bi man who prefers hetero.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 08:37 PM
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I spent it on weed for Christmas so sadly I had to keep working
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:42 PM
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Hahaha true. I actually did find $100 on the side of the road a couple of years back. That was definitely my peak.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:31 PM
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I get, I used to play soccer and did a lot of running to get better at that sport. The thing I like about going to the gym is you can just zone out and listen to podcasts or audiobooks, which are two things I love. I’m actually considering picking up dancing myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:22 PM
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Hey guys, I found a thousand dollars on the side of the road. I don’t get why the rest of you suckers are working. Bunch of fools, the lot of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:51 PM
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Nah, I get it. Some men definitely get body dysmorphia and take the gym too far. I’ve just had so many people get defensive and say things like I don’t need to go to the gym when I mention it. While, it’s had such a huge improvement in my life. Feels like one of those subtle ways society is trying to stop men from being men and it gets on my nerves.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:32 PM
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Ok, thank you. Just to be clear, I’m not some roided out gym bro. I’m still fairly skinny overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:17 PM
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Whhaaaa… so I guess since I have a desk job I shouldn’t do anything physical? I workout because it feels good, improves my mental health, and makes me more attractive. I have less back and neck pain since developing stronger muscles. I’m more coordinated. My energy levels are higher. It helps keep the weight off, thus making me healthier long term as it decreases me risk of so many illnesses. I do accept who I am and have lots of other ways to gain attention from women. I have lots of hobbies an…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:14 PM
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It’s not anorexia for boys because building muscle is healthy. Yes, you can take it too far but most men build muscle in healthy ways. Don’t let the roided out gym guy define all men who worked out. Muscles also add other bonuses, like a better posture which is very attractive. I’m naturally very skinny and never got compliments on my physical body that much, but when I started to workout and get gains, women would touch my muscles and say they liked them and encouraged me to work out more. Know…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:04 PM

Yup, I get you. I’m sympathetic towards how women experience their attraction towards men because it feels the same way I’m attracted to men. With women I typically know within five seconds if I’m into them or not haha. I hear bi women say something similar - women just seem to be more desirable in our brains. I think a lot of men here just want to be on the receiving end of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 11:25 AM

Yeah, I’m bi too and it’s really rare for me to see men I think are attractive. Honestly, the thing most attractive about men is certain personalities and you can’t tell that without getting to know them first.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 10:53 AM
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Best comment in this thread. A woman who’d rather run into a bear than a man is so mentally distorted in their world view, they can’t be considered rational. Or they’re just so petty they’ll say ridiculous stuff like this to try and upset men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 07:14 PM
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Yeah, I genuinely can’t believe how many women in this comment section seem to be totally fine with men just waltzing into the women’s washroom. While I think most men are reasonable, and wouldn’t use it as a chance to be a creep, it only takes one. Men have gone to further extremes to get to peep at women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 06:29 PM

This is just my experience, but when a woman is really into you she’ll be very eager to do things for you, pay her share, or treat you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 04:02 PM
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It’s funny to me that Declan Rice’s girlfriend is slowly becoming a meme in this sub. Poor lass
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 11:55 AM
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WTF? If you’re unhappy in a marriage than do the right thing and get a divorce. I have zero issue with someone deciding to end a relationship, that’s their choice, and even if it’s driven by shallow reasons they can do as they please. But cheating is breaking a moral contract.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 11:08 AM
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Beyond what other people are saying here, I’d guess it has to do with the fact that pretty much every humans first attachment to another human is to their mother. A baby that feels more attached to women would probably be more likely to survive than one that felt just as attached to men. Babies 10,000 years ago would just die if they weren’t drawn to their mother. Our “first” everything leaves a pretty impactful experience on us. I’m still very attracted to women that look similar to my first gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 03:50 AM
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Beyond what other people are saying here, I’d guess it has to do with the fact that pretty much every humans first attachment to another human is to their mother. A baby that feels more attached to women would probably be more likely to survive than one that felt just as attached to men. Babies 10,000 years ago would just die if they weren’t drawn to their mother. Our “first” everything leaves a pretty impactful experience on us. I’m still very attracted to women that look similar to my first gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 03:49 AM
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I was gonna comment this. You can’t have a relationship if someone can’t communicate. Doesn’t matter how hot or fun they are. Any relationship with have hiccups so you gotta be able to talk it through.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 11:17 PM

Depending on how skilled the employee is, and how in demand their skillset, it can go either way. I do freelance work and will reject potential clients. I know people who’ve had employers compete by giving them better offers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 09:53 PM

lol dude, if you think of your relationship with a woman is as transactional as an employer I have nothing to say other than I’m sorry your experiences with women have been so grim. Hopefully you’ll find a better woman what can treat you right someday. But seriously, don’t settle for a woman who treats you like that. You deserve better, king 👑
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 09:51 PM

False. Men are the initiators. We can chose to leave a situation if we aren’t happy. I ended things with the majority of women I dated last year. I had women peruse me that I choose not to date. Y’all act like you have zero agency when it comes to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 09:44 PM

I’d agree there aren’t massive “wins” for Me Too but it impacted how women perceive themselves in the world. Compared to a decade ago, women perceive themselves as being more mistreated. I don’t know if that’s true, but collectively women are together in this. If men had the same ingroup bias and we wouldn’t accept women who are cold and emotionless towards men, those women would be forced to change. Just like the fat unemployed man realizes he has to change to attract women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 08:52 PM

Men should do that because it would overall raise the quality of life for men. Women think collectively and look out for each other. That’s why movements like Me Too had such a profound impact on how women exist in society. If men banded together like women did, we’d see this change quickly. But men are overly competitive and look out for themselves first. We’d sacrifice improving the world for men just to get our dicks wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 08:43 PM

Women have collectively changed their standards and the dating game. No reason men can’t do the same. But it would require men to not think with their dicks, which is a pretty big ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 08:37 PM

If a woman can’t accept a man showing emotions she doesn’t deserve a partner. Men need to start having higher standards for their emotional needs instead of just taking scraps from an emotionally immature woman because she’s hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 08:31 PM
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That’s fine, I mean I personally don’t mind this stuff I just know sometimes it can come across as too much for a lot of women. At least that’s what they say on Reddit. The main reason I’m trying to slow things down is to let the woman have an extended period of getting to know me. When you first meet someone, you have to fill in a lot of the blanks. Normally, you fill them in with positive things if you’re excited about dating someone. But if you find too much out too quickly, the fantasy versi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 02:49 PM
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I like to text all the time and call a few times a week. I’ve been told that’s clingy for a lot of people early on in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 02:40 PM
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I’d be considered clingy by a lot of people but that seems like a lot of time to me. Maybe giving the relationship more room to breathe would benefit you. Maybe not, but worth giving it a try.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 02:23 PM
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Yeah, I don’t get it either. From the stories my friends told me, these weren’t just being flirty though, it was bad. Like, why do you think any woman would respond well to this bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 02:18 PM
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I don’t think the strategy works for most women unless the woman is looking for a hookup. So I guess if that’s all you’re looking for then maybe it’d help.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 01:37 PM

Ok, I believe you. Would you believe that it can take a long time to meet someone, and for some people that might take longer? I know it sucks being single, but maybe if you just give it time, your person will eventually show up. Let’s say everything you believe here is real, there is only so much you can do about it. You can either be upset about it, or you can chose to be indifferent about your dating outcomes. The latter will at least ease the turmoil a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 01:35 PM
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I’m a bisexual man as well and I understand what you mean by getting TONS of likes from men. I don’t buy the whole “it’s overwhelming bit” though. I tend to be more sympathetic to women than most men on this sub, but the dating apps are overwhelmingly due to choice is one thing I strongly disagree on. First off, most apps don’t let you see the likes unless you pay, which most people don’t. So just swipe like normal until you find a guy you like. It’s just like men’s experience but you’ll get a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 09:08 AM
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I guess I’m not sure what you’re getting at then.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 12:39 AM
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Genuinely, who cares if massive amounts of women find you 100% desirable in a physical sense. Women are attracted to much more than that. I have a friend who’s almost 60, and overweight, but highly charismatic. He sleeps with lots of beautiful women, sometimes half his age or less. I don’t think he’s drawing in women based on his looks, it’s his personality that does it. Different women lust after different things. Why do you want to be Chad so bad? If you aren’t, stop worrying about it and find…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 12:21 AM
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Where is he getting to know 100 women? I’m assuming you must mean dating apps, but I don’t think OLD is a reflection of reality because it’s pretty much just based on looks. I have a hard time believing a man could meet 100 women in person he was genuinely interested in romantically because he found them compatible (and not just hot) and zero of them would try dating him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 12:01 AM
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Probably compatibility. It goes both ways. I have attractive female friends I have no desire to date because while they’re good friends, we just have very different lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 11:25 PM

When I said “here” I meant in your comment. Sorry, should have been more specific. I don’t think anyone is stuck as a loser. If a woman becomes one, she can change, as can men. And I don’t think being mistreated by someone makes you a loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 11:18 PM

Loser is too broad of a category here. Just because a woman was mistreated in a relationship doesn’t make her a loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 11:09 PM

Thanks! Yeah, my biological father was socially very adept and was the life of the party, but couldn’t provide on any other way. Wasn’t able to provide for me as a father at all. My mother in turn became very bitter towards men and although I think she went too far, I can see why she felt that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 10:34 PM
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If you’re getting zero results you might be doing something wrong. I’ve been freakishly skinny my whole life but I’ve been able to get gains and improve my posture by working out. When you say you don’t get results in dating, what do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 08:34 PM
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I disagree. I imagine I’d come out further ahead of a version of me that believed the world works the way you do. Besides, you should be doing these things for yourself first, not just to get a woman. Even if you don’t get the woman you really want, now you feel better because you workout, and you have more stability emotionally. And yes, improving your personality takes time but anything worth while takes time. It’s not a simple fix and you’re probably gonna be working on growing until the day …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 08:17 PM
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Being lower-case stoic and not expressing your emotions is toxic, but the actual philosophy of Stoicism isn’t toxic at all and tells you to feel and observe your emotions, but don’t let them control your actions. It’s about accepting the world for what it is, and not trying to control the outside world.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 08:13 PM

Don’t worry, he understands what turns you on more than you do yourself /s
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 08:08 PM
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Maybe really ugly men have next to no chance, but most men fall within average where there is a lot of altitude to improve your looks, personality, and financial position. Men are giving up too easily. And I disagree, I know lots of men who struggle with dating who have very unattractive personalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 08:07 PM
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Masculine with lower n count. I’ve been with more feminine submissive women and to be honest it gets to be a lot of work because they expect you to lead and make all the decisions. Sometimes it’s nice to have a more equal partner. Also, I totally agree with you. I’ve known submissive feminine women who clearly slept around and submissive feminine women who obviously didn’t engage in casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 07:42 PM

If you’re at the point of thinking you can understand the behaviour of ALL women then I don’t know what to say. Not all men and not all women are the same. Humans are far more complex than you give them credit for.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 07:32 PM

Certain women will, but not all of them. This is where I find people with opinions like yours are off the mark. Yes, there are women who are easily seduced and easy to sleep with if you’re a hot guy. I’ve met these women, they’re real. I know. But there are also lots of women who arent like this, and often times those are the women who men want to settle down with. Women aren’t one size fits all and just because they made mistakes and dated a guy who treated them poorly in the past doesn’t mean …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 07:06 PM
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Ah ok, maybe I was misreading you. So you make yourself look better to arouse women more. That’s fine, I do the same thing I suppose. I still think women who need an emotional connection don’t drop that requirement for Chad because they know they’ll have better orgasms.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:19 PM
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I actually don’t know if I believe demisexuality is actually that unique, I think it’s probably closer to the default sexuality of women. There is just different variations of it. How are you using that data? Call it insecurity or whatever you like, but having a strong preoccupation that your partner will have better orgasms with another man is not secure imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:00 PM
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I don’t think I’ll be able to convince you otherwise but I’ve dated a number of women who identified with the term demisexual and said they needed an emotional connection to feel arousal. This feels like a very common variation in women’s sexuality. These women strongly believed they didn’t experience sexual attraction until they knew someone first. Im gonna trust they know more about when turned on than I do. And for those articles about orgasms, like yeah, obviously. I find it easier to orgasm…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 05:48 PM
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The downvotes are sad because you don’t say anything extreme at all. It’s just solid advice. I’m really worried about men too. I engage in this sub to hopefully convince a few men that being kind to women actually does help you attract them and makes you happier as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 05:38 PM

No offence dude, but you can’t know what maturity looks like when you’re 21.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 05:30 PM
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Thanks for the well written post. I need to reread “how to win friends again…” again, it’s been a while. It’s sad that a lot of this advice will go unheard because people think it’s all about looks. I genuinely think a lot of men don’t realize how off putting they can be due to behaviour. Simple things like leading with kindness, being curious instead of judgemental, and being respectful would help them develop deeper human connections.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 05:22 PM
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Why do you assume the women who need an emotional connection to enjoy sex also don’t need an emotional connection with the very attractive man? Women aren’t blind, and they can tell a man is societally considered attractive without feeling sexual lust. Having a trait that’s valued at large makes you more intriguing, so yeah, women would be interested “Chad” looking men more often because it’s an easy SURFACE level trait to judge. If the “Chad” is also kind, funny, and empathetic, and that’s what…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 05:06 PM
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OP is right here, it’s like you aren’t even engaging with what she’s saying. I’m not autistic but I think you can improve your personality - I’d say anyone probably can. You probably won’t listen, but read the book suggested in this post. I guarantee you that it’ll improve your social interactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 04:51 PM

In reference to your last part, I’m someone who doesn’t seek out one night stands, but I guess if some beautiful woman was super into me and seduced, I could see myself sleeping with her in that capacity. So I don’t really blame women if that happened. People don’t perfectly adhere to a set of rules 100% of the time. I guess maybe that’s your overall point. Where we probably disagree is I don’t think the scenario you lay out is happening that much, and there is a large group of women who don’t d…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 04:15 PM

Maybe she’d sleep with him, but know she won’t get a relationship out of him. But if she’s only looking for a relationship, she probably ain’t doing one night stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 03:40 PM
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I think it really depends on the person whether that would be considered bullying or making fun of. That’s a fine line imo. Anyway, my point was a lot of men don’t seem to care about presenting themselves well anymore, and putting social pressure on men to do so isn’t the end of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 03:33 PM
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You literally said in your post that the whole group makes fun of him. That’s bullying. My “lol” was to indicate I was being light hearted, but I do think a lot of men don’t care about how they present themselves and don’t think it matters. In the past, being a well groomed man was more of an expectation at places like work, church, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 03:18 PM
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lol this is why we need to bring some level of social shaming back.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 03:03 PM
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I’ve had lots of women say I dress and women often point out on dates they like how I dress while also saying most men dress poorly. I don’t buy expensive clothes, but I try to find items that look unique and pull them off with nice colour coordination. I lead with my own fashion choices because for me fashion is important. 100% it impacts how I feel about someone. I’m a very aesthetically driven person. My day job is to design things that look good. I like to organize my home in a way that look…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 03:02 PM

That’s a really negative way to frame it. I think “I used to accept being mistreated but now I only date men who show that they’ll treat me well” is a more honest framing. If she really matured, I don’t think this hypothetical woman would sleep with the attractive man again unless he showed he would treat her well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 02:49 PM

How is your flair blue pill? This sounds super red to me hahaha. I don’t think the average women is ruined by her 19 year old boyfriend. Maybe they’re bitter for a bit (just like men can be when a relationship doesn’t work out) but then they move on and move forward. How old are you? I only ask because I’m in my 30’s and I don’t see women my age ever mentioning their high school boyfriend except in the context of laughing about being young and how silly dating was then. I do agree that you shoul…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 02:44 PM
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Yeah, I don’t get this at all. My understanding is stats show women are having less sexual partners now.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 02:34 PM

This is just from what I’ve seen but I think women do take more accountability as they get older just like men do. It’s called maturing. The women in my life who seem frustrated and distrustful of men are ones who stayed in relationships with lazy unmotivated men and the woman ended up putting all the effort in. Maybe you’ll consider these men Chads, but in my opinion they were kind of losers. The women I know have taken accountability by refusing to date men like that anymore - which is totally…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 02:20 PM

I’m curious, do you think there is a flip side to this? Like men who only ask out beautiful women of their league, or get friendzoned by beautiful women and become bitter?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 02:09 PM

I’ve tried it once when I asked to and it was so revolting for me to do I could never do it again. The thought of committing an act of violence against someone I care about for sexual pleasure makes me feel sick. Not saying all men who are into this are abusers, but the men who are into this must be way more likely to be abusive. The women in this thread who view it as a red flag are 100% correct. There are a lot of fun kinks you can have in the bedroom and different ways to add more physicality…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 05:46 AM
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Oh, don’t get me wrong, it’s definitely hard. I find not focusing on dating as much and building up a life that’s enjoyable while single is key. You gotta connect with your true self. A great book I read recently called “Singe on Purpose” really helped me reframe singlehood.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 06:25 PM
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I don’t think most women are chasing those men though. For certain those women exist and to be frank, they’re shallow. I don’t want to date a shallow woman, I want to date a kind woman who sees value in people beyond material goods they can provide. A woman who chases men for their money is not a person I want to be the mother of our future children. I have numerous examples of women in my life settling down with men who make normal salaries, or even less than them. I don’t think they’re all sec…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 06:12 PM
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I don’t think the power dynamics between kings and peasants is relevant to today’s dating market. Most people are somewhere around the middle, either super poor or super rich. When looking for a great guy to settle down with, I think women’s money standards aren’t as high as people make them out to be. A lot of women make better money these days and are adjusting to that reality. I typically date women who out earn me or have more assets than I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 06:07 PM
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Exactly. I won’t lower my standards as a man either. If it means I have less sex and relationships, that’s fine. I have a lot of other awesome stuff in my life to draw meaning from.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 03:42 PM
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This might be an unpopular answer but men can improve. If women have certain standards most men don’t meet, then meet the standards. Being in shape, making a decent income, being interesting, and having emotional stability are all things you can work at and benefit YOU first. Women only benefit from their standards if you date her. Also, I really don’t think women’s standards are as high as many people make them out to be. The bar isn’t as low as some women make it out to be, it still takes work…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 03:30 PM
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Yeah, I’d agree thinking you need love to be happy isn’t true. Having experienced love before, I would say that I had a higher potential for happiness during that time. I think that’s where a lot of people get tripped up.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 03:15 PM
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This is a great write up - 100% agree. I’ve definitely struggled with “needing” a partner and it can make you more unhappy overall, which makes you more unattractive imo. It’s amazing how great friendship can make you feel. There is so much happiness to find in life outside of romance and a lot of people here miss that. I do think it’s valid to point out intimacy as a basic human need though, and when you lack it, there is something missing from your life. Treading the line between intimacy is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 02:51 PM
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I'd agree, 3 is the hardest factor to find for men. I wish I could just be attracted to any woman - finding a girlfriend then would be pretty easy I think. I'd actually say that I think attraction for women is more malleable than some people in this subreddit seem to think. People cite studies that show most women rate men a 2/10 or whatever, but I think it's because women often don't feel strong physical attraction to men unless there is a strong emotional attraction. You'll hear stories often …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 02:14 AM
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I probably only swipe on 3-4 profiles out of a hundred as a man. I just have a type I'm into and while I see a lot of attractive women on dating apps, if they have nothing in their profile that shows they'd be interesting to chat with, I don't bother wasting my (or their) time. Most profiles on dating apps are super bare. If a woman is low effort on her profile, I assume she's low effort overall when it comes to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 09:33 PM
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I was a huge nerd growing up. I remember bullies taking my Star Wars novel and throwing it in the trash. I basically hid all my interests as well. Liking video games back then made you a target so I get what you're saying. Not sure what your age is, but as you get older it seems to matter less. Or you find your people who actually share you interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 02:24 PM
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Yeah, I don't take family comments to mean much at all. I don't think I've ever had a random woman compliment me before, but I've had female friends do so. I'd guess that I'm probably around a 6-6.5 myself, so what you're saying lines up with my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 09:24 PM
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Hahaha, no it's because I'm insecure about my looks and even if I get compliments I assume it's just people being nice or feeling bad for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 09:22 PM
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How do you actually determine how attractive you are as a man? I think it's easy to get sucked into blackpilled thinking as we all have our flaws (I'm so lanky and skinny). I also think it's easy for people to become delusional about their looks as well (I'm 6'2 so I'm clearly a Chad). I see men saying they never get compliments, but I get compliments all the time from women. It's hard not to interpret that as me being attractive but the compliments are always about my hair, or clothes looking g…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 09:39 PM
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I don't care if fantasy games have women as knights or whatever. I wrote a novel about a woman who was a knight and the world wasn't sexist about it. But if you're doing a historically accurate game, I can't stand the insertion of women or people of colour into roles or places they never were. It's not that I don't want to see women fighting (women with swords are hot) but it teaches children a false history. It's like the AI that made racially diverse Nazis - it just erases the real history tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 08:23 PM

Is it conditional? There are healthy and unhealthy ways to express emotions. Doing so in a way that's unattractive doesn't make it conditional. There are good ways to have sex and bad ways to have sex, that doesn't make the sex conditional.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:59 PM

Completely agree with this. It's ok to feel bad, but if you make it a pity party that's very unattractive. I've dated people like that and after awhile you feel like there is nothing you can do to help them and it's draining. Taking ownership of your emotional state is attractive whether you're a man or a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:41 PM

I often wonder how often these "men show their weakness" and the women leaves are for other reasons, like just a general lack of attraction. Realistically, most of the people you date won't turn into anything long term whether you show weakness or not. So if you show weakness to someone you're dating, there is still a strong chance it's not going to work out. Factor in that women often times break up with men more than the other way around, it'd be really easy to blame it on showing vulnerabilit…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 01:22 PM
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Thanks! I agree, it's ok if the division of labour changes at times. I want to be there to support my person if they're having a tough period.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 01:41 AM
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I get it, I've had times where I opened up and rejection happened around then. I've had times where opening up as drawn a woman closer though. If someone's meant to be, opening up (assuming you aren't trauma dumping) shouldn't drive them away.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 01:39 AM
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I'm a man, but I was on the other side of this. I did almost all the dishes and cooking, while my ex cleaned the deep cleaned things once a month. Admittedly she was really good at deep cleaning, but it didn't compare to how much work I'd do. I believe women when they say they do more labour because I've had male roommates who didn't do shit. Men are generally just terrible at cleaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 12:59 AM
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I say this having experienced something similar myself, some women will gaslight you to ignore their obvious true feelings and you'll try to trust them, only to have them later on confirm you were right all along. It totally fucks with your head. I was with someone who I thought was developing feelings for a friend we were both having sex with, but she denied it, only to leave me for him a year later. She admitted she was lying to herself. I've done therapy around it, but I don't know how I can …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 06:49 PM
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I mean, here's my standards and what I think are the standards for most men. Fun to be around due to a good nature connection Kind, warm, and thoughtful Physically attractive enough for sexual arousal Similar long term life goals like wanting a family A lot of "other" standards like career, education, etc can be covered by the fun to be around. I couldn't have genuine fun with someone who I didn't connect with on an intellectual level. I don't think I'd have a connection with someone who didn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 06:34 PM
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I like how I click the link and it says the treatment helps you to stop smoking, and the ad on the side of the page is for joints. I might try this. This kind of treatments are really fascinating.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 06:23 PM
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Man, I really understand sometimes when women talk about how frustrating it is when men don't open up. I'm a pretty sociable guy, so I make lots of connections, but so many men are only surface level and if you ever try to go further, they just tighten up and go quiet. I dated a guy before who was a lot of fun to spend time with, but he had so many walls up I was never able to get closer to him emotionally. I don't think I've genuinely encountered women who are like this while dating them. Often…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 06:16 PM
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I get that. I'm in a similar place to you where I reached most of my life checkpoints except marriage and having a family. There is this attitude out there on reddit that it's a massively negative thing if you depend on another person for happiness. I kind of feel like there isn't actually anything wrong with that though. Obviously if your relationship is the ONLY thing going for you, that's not good, but we're human and we desire human connection. Our generation really fetishizes being "indepen…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 06:12 PM

Sounds like a good guy. Hope he finds someone
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 05:22 PM

Yeah, I can see how you could read it that way. I think OP was really struggling with the idea of being settled for, so I just wanted to show that a super beautiful woman could find a lot positives about a partner besides looks. This subreddit seems obsessed with applying numbers to people at times. I know for myself, I had a partner who had great empathy skills and that really helped me grow because I never had empathy modelled for me at home. I’ll always appreciate that about her.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 05:05 PM

This hypothetical relationship can have more angles to it. My point is people get value from relationships besides just being a looks match. Just because people aren’t a looks match, doesn’t mean they can’t help each other. Maybe the 5/10 guy lacks confidence and the 9/10 woman teaches him to believe in himself more. I was just writing it from the perspective of the man, since that’s who the OP was.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 04:52 PM

I think a mental reframe might be good here. Truth is, nobody is going to get a 100% perfect match. Some might get lucky and get 95% but most of us will be less than that. That percentage of the person who isn’t perfect for you isn’t a bad thing though. It brings variety and perspective to the relationship. The flaws we carry are unique and part of what makes us special. It also gives us room to grow in the relationship, which helps build a bond. No adversity or disagreement sounds boring. A 9/1…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 02:14 PM

You got me, I’m actually an ugly gnome
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 06:55 PM

Agreed. I share a lot of progressive values, but often on gender they’re way off.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 06:53 PM

Thanks. And no worries, I know what you mean in some sense. I probably wouldn’t date the girl who slept around a lot and hooked up at clubs because I just wouldn’t have a good cross section of common interests. The emotionally unavailable women I meet are normally hyper anxious and get easily stressed, so only seek low pressure relationships. They’re both women going through similar problems, they just deal with them differently based on their personality. The latter is more like me though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 06:52 PM

I think as a general rule, therapy is a female dominated field and so it’s developed from their perspective. I think it’s political as well. I don’t know my current therapists political views, but I do know she also does therapy that references Christ, so I gotta assume she’s probably a bit more conservative/traditional than my past therapists who were queer men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 06:25 PM

I’m 32 years old
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 06:22 PM

The whole point of my post is I’m not gonna change who I am. I’m different than I was years ago because I did a lot of healing work, but who I am now is a more authentic version of myself and I plan to stay this way. And I disagree. Those aren’t trashy women, they’re just women who have been through a lot of pain, and are responding to it in ways they don’t understand. I have empathy for them, even though they might not want to date me because of those wounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 06:08 PM

It’s hard to put my finger on it. My current therapist comes at it from a place where men and women are different, but also the same in many ways. So her approach tends to accept men as unique from women, where my past therapists seemed to treat men as defective women (if that makes sense). She works a lot with male soldiers who have PTSD and she’s way more experienced than my past therapists. I think those both help a lot too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 06:05 PM

Thank you! Here’s hoping ❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 06:02 PM

Totally agree. Sometimes I’ll meet someone, and I can tell pretty quickly what they need to work on (too clingy, or too emotionally unavailable) but it’s hard to change at this age. I did a lot of that growth in my 20’s in a serious relationship. When I took a few years to be by myself, I reemerged into the modern dating hellscape.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 06:01 PM

Thanks! Yeah, I’m considering some new avenues to socialize in the next few months. People seem to like me in social settings, so I’m sure if I get enough exposure, it’ll work out eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 05:47 PM

Exactly. It’s slim pickings. I was in a relationship for most of my 20’s so it’s kind of awkward going back to the dating pool now.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 05:42 PM

Do you not think there is a real reason people seek out relationships with people who treat them poorly? This is a well documented phenomenon in psychology and not some red pilled take. A lot of people these days fear intimacy, don’t know that’s how they truly feel, and only feel “safe” in situations that are actually unsafe. You’ll even see women on here admit this. And yeah, I’m angry because it sucks. Anger is one of the steps towards acceptance. The journey towards accepting the world as it …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 05:40 PM

I agree. As disappointed as I am that it didn’t work out with her, I’m not angry. I feel a lot of empathy the way she is. Sadly, I can’t help her heal if she doesn’t want to be helped.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 05:35 PM

Yeah, it’s certainly a challenge to find good friends who help you meet others. My friends are often nerds, so it can go both ways. Some do well, some don’t. Compared to most of my friends, I’d say I do well. I think it’s just part of being in your thirties, but it’s a lot harder to just meet people by chance compared to my university years.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 05:34 PM

After having some bad therapists, it’s nice to have one who actually gets it. Weirdly, my past two therapists were men and they weren’t good. My current one is a woman and she seems to get men’s issues better than my previous ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 05:31 PM

Exactly. I’m more likely to find the right woman these days than before. But it does make finding someone harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 05:30 PM

Hahaha the last girl I dated was getting her masters. I guess that was my mistake. Everything was going great until it took a step towards being more serious and it was too overwhelming for her because she couldn’t handle commitment 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 05:29 PM
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Thanks for writing that out so well. I don’t have much to add because i could have written that out myself. I grew up with a very feminist mom who instilled all the feminist ideals in me from a young age, and told me to be different than other men. But then I saw the men who I was told are bad get all the women. It’s unfortunate because I really do think all the issues you spelled out are women fucking themselves over with “feminism”. Having done a lot of feminist reading, I think there is a lot…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 05:27 PM

I had a good session with my therapist where I was venting my dating frustrations. I think what I’m coming to realize is being an emotionally mature man who understands their emotions, wants commitment, and tries to be compassionate is a complete turn off to most women because most women haven’t done the work to arrive at a place where they actually want that. Women can say they want all those things, but they don’t feel it in their bodies. That’s why you can be a “great guy” but they don’t feel…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 05:14 PM

I actually just enjoy the taste of beer. If I could drink it without the alcohol effects, I would. Non-alcoholic beer tastes off though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 04:51 PM
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Hey, I largely agree with you. I do think people shit on men and are quick to blame them for their own problems. Some women in here are vicious about it, and it does nothing but deject the men who have tried. I do think at times though, since this is the internet, and we have zero idea who’s on the other side of the screen, people who can make improvements are stuck in a negative loop thinking they can’t. That’s why doing work in person with a therapist who can understand your life is important.…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 04:47 PM
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Exactly. A lot of us haven’t been given the tools to succeed but we have so many opportunities to learn and grow. I really do think my generation has been softened due to our shitty upbringing. Nobody is willing to get uncomfortable. People here need to be cynical about their cynicism sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 12:28 PM
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Yeah, reading through these comments a lot of men here seem to act like they have this impossibly hard challenges to overcome. I’m not gonna say it isn’t rough, it is, but you can improve your living situation. The tools are out there and the only way you can beat depression is to face it. There is no other path. I can pretty much guarantee I’ve been through a lot more than the posters here. As much as I want to wallow, I still try to improve my life. There is no other path.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 12:07 PM
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I have a friend she’ll be like “all men suck” but then tell me I’m one of the good ones. I know so many good men, I’m kind of tired of her overly negative perception of people like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 05:24 PM
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Perhaps. In my experience when you’re dry over messaging and not bantering or being witty it never goes anywhere. I am naturally a jokey person in real life, so if she doesn’t like that I wouldn’t be a good fit. She was actually engaged until I turned it towards asking her a question about herself. Ultimately it’s just life on a dating app, most matches go no where 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 05:12 PM
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I see your point. I’ve just had enough shitty dates where I quickly tried to ask them out, and I think if I took another day or two to message, I’d have known it wouldn’t be a good fit. I’m not a Chad, but I don’t struggle to get dates. I got burnt out last year but going on a lot of dates where the messaging was mid, but I figured I’d give it a chance in person. This year I’m trying to be a bit more selective so I don’t get burned out as quickly. And all the women I did go on multiple dates wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 04:46 PM
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Yeah, I’ve had interested women throw their number to be in less than ten messages before. It’s always a good sign.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 04:35 PM
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I am? I’m just venting about a frustrating experience which is a perfectly normal part of moving on? If I said the sky was blue, you’d keep commenting and telling me it’s actually green.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 04:32 PM
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Exactly. I’ve already started talking to other girls. I don’t get any expectations until we meet in person and see if there is actual chemistry.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 04:30 PM
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I’m not spiralling, I’m just venting. You know, that thing where men express their emotions? I know, a wild concept. Look, you really have no idea what you’re talking about until you grow a penis and beard and try dating as a man. I guarantee you she won’t send another message.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 04:28 PM
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I agree. I normally do that after 10-15 messages depending on how the conversation is flowing. I’ve had many women say no, and want to stay on the app until we have a first date. But let’s be real, if her interest is that low, she wasn’t super interested in me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 04:26 PM
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If watching a movie is why someone hasn’t responded to a message 48 hours later, they don’t care about you. Why is that so hard for you to understand? Have you dated women before? Because if not, you have no idea what you’re talking about. Unless you believe all people with vaginas share a hivemind.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 04:22 PM
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It takes a few minutes to message someone. I’ve had enough women interested in me over my life that if they like you, they’ll make the time. Don’t try to shove copium into my veins. Just accept women on OLD will use men for validation sometimes. Many men do it just as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 04:13 PM
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I normally try to get them off the app pretty quickly, but I wait until we’ve moved from banter/flirty into more real talk. Normally I ask to meet up by 3-4 days.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 04:11 PM
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One of the most dejecting parts of online dating is when you match with a cute girl, you try to be charming and witty with your messages. Shes engaged and playing along, and then you ask one normal question so you can actually get to know her better and BAM - she stops responding. Zero interest in trying to get to know me, or letting me know her. They’re just feeding off my humour like a leech creature that gets its sustenance from funny men. Jestermaxxing can work, but as soon as you take the j…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 04:04 PM
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I don’t know why the fuck we do shit like this. We have zero idea what the long term impacts on a child will be who isn’t incubated inside their mother. We need to stop fucking with nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 03:58 PM
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What does waiting for the right guy even mean to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 03:56 PM
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The truth is, you need a have a bit of femininity maintain a relationship once you get into one. If you aren’t in touch with your emotions in the present moment, you’ll never be able to properly express your needs, and you’ll be unhappy. That comes out in negative ways which end up destroying the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 02:09 PM
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The boyfriend goldielocks problem. Can’t be too kind, but can’t be too mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 02:06 PM
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I dated a girl with a hip dip. I honestly had no idea what they were or that she had them until years later. Never noticed she was different. I think they come from having a vertically longer pelvis. If people just didn’t mention this stuff, we’d probably never think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 04:00 AM
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Yup, that’s normal amoung men. My understanding from women is a lot of body shame actually comes from other women criticizing their bodies, and the same is true with men. Unless someone has an 8 inch dick, I’m pretty sure every male is insecure about their penis size at one point in their life. I’m above average in size, but I still feel self conscious sometimes. One of the most common insults men use against each other is saying their dick is small. We all need to do better.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 03:53 AM
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This is probably the most wholesome thing I’ve read on this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 03:49 AM
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I’ve been saying this going back a decade and if I ever mention it in front of a woman they normally get really upset and say it’s not a thing for men. I genuinely do believe body image issues are a huge issue for women, so it’s incredibly frustrating to see it dismissed so readily as a topic when it affects men. I think men are going down a dark path, and in ten years people are going to be saying “why didn’t anyone do something about this?”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 03:40 AM
1

Fair enough. I guess my body just works differently. If I don’t work out, I feel like crap pretty quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 02:54 AM
-1

For me, the spark is do I enjoy talking to them and do I find them attractive. It’s pretty simple. I’ve had people I’ve developed big crushes on from a distance and that feels different, but it’s not real. My longest relationship I didn’t feel crazy about the person at first, but I enjoyed spending time together and thought she was cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 06:40 PM
1

Ok, I get where you’re at. Until socialists start getting buff though, the revolution is never going to happen hahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 05:34 PM
0

In the past, any generic profile I matched with turned out to be a generic person. I just wouldn’t work out with them
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 05:32 PM
0

I use Hinge so people can put more about themselves if they wish. I ignore low effort profiles.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 05:31 PM
2

Facial feminization surgery is just plastic surgery though. I do agree they looked more feminine afterwards, but it also made them look younger. I would see a gay twink getting plastic surgery to keep that look. I don’t know if there is an endgame. I think Dylan’s just wants validation and attention and found an unlimited well. I’ve watched some videos of them and they tried to go viral on social media before the days of girlhood thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 04:01 PM
2

My theory is that Dylan is a failed gay actor who was aging out of his twinkness and decided to try and pull off this stunt for fame. Well, it went better than expected and now they’re in too deep. Unlike most trans women, they haven’t gone on hormones which is pretty telling because that’s normally the first step of transition
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 03:56 PM
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Cheek bones are key. It’s such a random feature but does so much for attractiveness. Sorry, I stalked your profile to see if you had posted a photo of yourself. You keep planted tanks?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 03:45 PM
3

If I was trying to put on “womanface” to mock women, I’d act exactly like Dylan does.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 03:40 PM
1

Not exactly stretchy but I feel like my resting face is very handsome, but when I smile the way my facial skin pulls makes me look way worse. Sad part is I’m generally smiling. Maybe I need to be more broody.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 03:39 PM
1

Accepting yourself for who you are now also means you’re accepting you have the capacity for growth and change. I think a lot of people use the “just be yourself” phrase to excuse themselves of putting hard into improving their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 03:36 PM
4

How do I know your brother isn’t Chris Hemsworth?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 03:31 PM
1

I’m not sure what you mean by your views. I’m just curious, can you explain?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 03:13 PM
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So you used an app that likely made you look like an attractive man who is computer generated?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 02:52 PM
-5

I don’t think I’m a Chad or anything, but that’s not my experience at all. I’d rather go on less dates, but only go on dates with women who interest me. To each their own I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 02:24 PM
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Ok, that makes sense. I guess I personally still try to retain some originality with things like fashion choices and personality so I didn’t think about it like that. I could see men becoming NPCs
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 02:23 PM
1

If you genuinely believe 40% of women would be a good potential date, you’re just wrong. I don’t mean standards in terms of looks, I mean try to only swipe on profiles you feel a connection with beyond beauty.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 02:15 PM
3

Yup! Like really, I see beautiful women on the app but I only like profiles that have information that appeals to me like common interests. I don’t want to waste my time going on a date with a woman when we likely won’t click.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 01:31 PM
1

I can’t believe men swipe on 40% of profiles. Why do they do this? No wonder women just sit back and wait on dating apps. I maybe swipe on 5-6% of profiles. Get some standards men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 01:22 PM
20

“I just used an average man” Profile is Chris Hemsworth
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 01:20 PM
0

Choice-substance suddenly realizing that maybe all those guys she banged didn’t actually mean much
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 05:20 AM
-1

How do you see no benefit to getting fit? At least for me it’s a huge boost to my overall physical health, energy levels, and mental health
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 05:04 AM
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Getting in shape, learning to dress well, and trying to make a decent income isn’t losing yourself and not being authentic. If you love video games, but give that up to try and get chicks, sure, you’re losing yourself. But I don’t think that’s what most dudes are doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 05:02 AM
2

Exactly this. I find taking a little while for women to become familiar with you helps when you ask them out for a coffee.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 04:41 PM
1

Even taking out the attraction element, I like to eat healthy and not keep junk food around the house because I have poor impulse control. If she wasn’t on board with my diet, I’d be screwed haha
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 07:40 PM
2

I was in a relationship for most of my adult life and after it ended, I didn’t start dating again until my early 30’s. So to go from the experience of being 18 and in university, to now, is wild. You’re so right about women at this age not having secure attachment. They’re either super anxious and clingy (which they’ll weaponize therapy speak to justify it, calling it boundaries), or the woman will be avoidant due to past trauma and will push you away as soon as you get close. Just finding a wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 04:26 PM
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Totally agree. I see women who definitely would be cute to me, but they’re very overweight and it just is a no go from me (I’ve tried). A lot of the women who struggle with dating I suspect are overweight, but are in total denial of it because #bodyacceptance
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 04:01 PM
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I think his religious framing is weird, as is the hierarchy with men above women. But he is getting at something that’s true, if men don’t get the benefits from women, we’re just gonna check out. It’s dumb, but I’m so much more motivated to do everything when I have a woman in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 03:51 PM
1

I think men do this too, actually. Sleeping with women they aren’t 100% attracted to because they want sex but don’t want to form an attachment.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 03:44 PM
1

Super based. Men into hips and ass make better fathers. The suspected evolutionary reason we’re into boobs is because our default sexual position is from behind, so we get off on seeing ass, and cleavage from larger breasts mimics the visual of an ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 03:41 PM
2

Anyone calling this guy average is out of touch. He’s good looking, and the reactions he gets from women make that obvious. I don’t trust men to rate other men’s attractiveness levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 03:34 PM
1

That logic checks out, but maybe she’s worried about becoming attached, so seeks out a man she knows she’s at low risk of developing feelings for.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 03:30 PM
1

I actually do see your point. I have female friends, but I do speak differently to them than I do my male friends. I know men who are different around women than around men. I think if men acted like they do around other men and didn’t filter around women, more women would feel like you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 03:28 PM
6

Men sometimes experience challenges in life unique to being male: -1000 karma
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 03:25 PM
1

You have to worry about internet outages? Brutal. Where do you live?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 03:24 PM
1

Part of it might also be that since she’s likely just looking for casual, there is an appeal to him being older and likely not relationship material. Helps keep both sides detached
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 03:20 PM
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Hahaha maybe the women enjoying talking to him because he’s interesting? Women love to engage with people who have masculine qualities, even if it’s just as a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 01:28 PM
2

True. I normally ask if they want to grab coffee, if it goes well turn it into dinner, and then ask if they want to go an official date.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 08:31 PM
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The thing is, most bi people I know have a preference for one or the other, so in reality we might fool around for a bit with both genders, but only end up seriously dating one. So it’s actually not that different than hetero or gay
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 02:54 PM
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How? If you accept your partner for who they are and don’t try to change them, that sounds like a recipe for loving them for who they are, and not who you want them to be. I think you’re confusing stoicism the philosophy and the word stoic which people often use to mean cold and unemotional.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 01:56 PM
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Hmmm, why do you think that? Stoicism is just about accepting the external world as it is, not as you want it to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 01:50 PM
1

Damn, there are some based as fuck women on this sub. Keep being you
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 12:30 PM
1

Just to clarify what I mean by detached, I don’t mean pulling away. I still treat people the same as I did before, and still try to be the kind and open person I am. But I don’t take their lack of communication to mean much in terms of my value. If you want to learn more, I’d look into the philosophy of stoicism. It’s been really helpful for me, and I think it’s a great tool for men to learn how to process negative feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 11:46 AM
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I’m curious why you think being white is more important in the lesbian community. In my experience, all the gay women I’ve known are very progressive and often openly care deeply about minority rights. Are you saying that’s all a facade?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 11:18 AM
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As a bad man, I agree. Dating men is super easy. Too bad I’m way more attracted to women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 11:16 AM
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Ah, ok. That makes sense, I get how you feel. I’ve felt the same way before. On some level, you want to punish them for “mistreating” you. I remember feeling hurt, so getting back at them was my way of processing that emotion. I’ve worked a lot on being more detached over the past few years because ultimately wanting to get back at them is letting an external factor control your emotions. Now if someone isn’t as engaged in the friendship as me, I accept them for who they are, and then proceed wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 11:06 AM
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I’ve actually had women who I was friends with tell me this and I think it can be true. I wasn’t having sex with them, so they had no reason to lie to me. I’m above average myself, and with one partner I would hit her cervix at certain angles and it hurt for her. So I’d have to be careful. She was also really tight which felt amazing, but she’d get sore if we had sex too much because of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 10:09 AM
1

I actually love scoring likes on Instagram reel content. If you can get a funny comment in early and pile up the likes it feels good. When 20,000+ people like your joke, hard not to feel good about yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 10:02 AM
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I mean, you’re kinda right. I don’t expect people to text me back immediately but someone you’re dating who regularly takes more than 24 hours isn’t putting in enough effort. Not worth the time in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 09:55 AM
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I don’t think most men entirely agree with my view(they’ll engage in causal sex) but I do think women who engage in casual sex to an extreme degrees are very unattractive and not considered relationship material by most men
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 02:57 AM
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It’s not about the number, it’s about how you view sex. I don’t want to have sex with a woman who views it as purely pleasure. Sex is the most intimate act of love you can experience with another human and is sacred. I’m only interested in engaging with a woman who shares that value. And I personally know lots who do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 02:46 AM
2

Clearly this man has never shared a brunch platter with a slut before /s
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 02:43 AM
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Not a zoomer but I’ve known women like this. That’s why so many of the red pill tactics like asking for a date immediately don’t work for all women. Turns out women are all individuals and relying on red pill or the Reddit hivemind for dating advice is a terrible idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 11:10 AM
1

It annoys me because almost everyone I know who does only got into it because they have rich parents who helped them get their first mortgage.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 10:57 AM
1

The snake shit made me lose it hahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 10:26 AM
1

Enjoy joining us men in the moustache club
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 09:53 AM
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Oh, to be clear, I don’t think it’s abusive or immoral (in a broad sense). I’m sure my friend will treat her well. But I understand what you’re getting at. 18 year olds are probably pretty easy for older men/women to take advantage of.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 03:29 AM
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I mean, that would be a pretty big turn off for me anyway, but I could look past it if everything else was great. For me, sex is about love, and I want to be with someone who feels the same way. To be honest, I’m not 100% sure why it bothers me so much. I just feel inherently repulsed by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 03:23 AM
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If I slept with an 18 year old, that’s far grounds for a woman not wanting to date me (I’m in my early 30’s). Honestly, if I dated a woman and she was ok with that, I don’t think her and I would have aligned values when it comes to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 03:20 AM
1

Same, although I wouldn’t hold it against someone who tried it for a while but eventually realized it wasn’t for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 03:18 AM
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I’m not big on casual sex, but have tried it, so I wouldn’t judge someone for trying it too. But someone who engages it in regularly is a no for me. It’s sleeping with a man the age of her father that turns me off.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 03:17 AM
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I have a friend who’s an older man who is casually sleeping with a girl half his age. I don’t judge him, he’s allowed to have fun, but I kind of do judge the woman. She’s around my age but I’d never consider dating her after knowing this. Would other men feel the same way?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 03:12 AM
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Totally agree. A lot of men here think they can trick women into falling for them, only to reveal later on they aren’t what they made themselves out to be. Why would you want a woman to fall in love with someone you aren’t?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 03:10 AM
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Agreed. They also completely fail to recognize how one dimensional they appear in their profile.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 03:08 AM
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I’ve seen it from the woman’s side and overall it’s really terrible. I’d say worse than women’s profiles are, mainly because men suck at getting good photos. I think women can get away with bad bios/prompts though since men will match with a woman purely based on looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 03:07 AM
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No man, these profiles aren’t good. The photos are terrible and the prompt answers are just weird sometimes. I see men in there tearing them down as well. I can say from my experience of changing my profile around a lot there is a magic formula
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 02:05 AM
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Damn. If you’re ever feeling like your dating profile is terrible, spend some time on the Hinge subreddit and see the profiles getting reviewed. Even ones of men who are objectively very attractive are just terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 01:55 AM
1

Yeah, I didn’t have much luck last summer trying to date younger. Going to try and retool my profile to see if I can do better.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 10:14 PM
1

Yeah, I feel that. I think my area definitely skews older than the south. I don’t think all hope is lost, I do occasionally get good matches. Still challenging though
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 09:53 PM
1

Dating in your thirties sucks. I was in a relationship for almost all my 20’s, took a few years to myself to grow, and now I’m looking at this barren wasteland of emotionally unavailable women due to past men who mistreated them, women who are mean, or women who are unattractive. Feels like the prime age to settle down is 25-29 and I missed that window. If you set your dating app range to 25-29 it’s like night and day compared to my own age in terms of quality profiles. I personally would like t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 09:21 PM
2

If you want a loaf of bread, going to a bakery is a good idea
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 12:48 AM

I’m bi and had the same experience as you. Men are pushy in a way women aren’t. I’ve never had a woman push me to do things sexually I said no to. The men don’t seem to care. While I’d agree with some of the commenters here that the gay scene is different than the straight scene, the behaviours I hear women repeated complain about from men I’ve experienced now on some level. Really made me reevaluate how I interact with women and focus on how I can make them feel safe and comfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 07:27 PM
0

It’s more complicated than just those three things. You need to go outside and be in the right spaces at the right time. It’s just a numbers game that takes longer for some.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 07:08 PM
0

Yeah but the top 20% won’t give me commitment :,,,(
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 09:47 PM
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Same here. Building up the tension and desire before finally having sex for the first time is just such a better experience. You only get one chance to do that in a relationship, and if things work out, you’ll have tons of sex anyway. I don’t see the point in rushing it early on.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 07:02 PM
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They changed my life. It’s like a mental reset and lets you self reflect in a way you never have before. You have to do shrooms with the intention of self directed therapy though, know what you’re looking to reflect on before you go in. Where do you live? I’m in Canada and I can get them delivered to my doorstep.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 11:35 PM
1

I saw this YouTube video of a guy named Andrew Tate, and he seemed good with the ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 09:36 AM
1

I’ve talked to a lot of socialists who aren’t ML, and don’t see a socialist society turning into communism, so I guess that’s the distinction I was trying to make. And sorry, I wish I knew better. I grew up in a small rural village in the Andes, and I can barely write, let alone understand the complexities of communism.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 09:33 AM
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These are some interesting points, thanks for sharing your first hand experience. It’s interesting because most of what you said (minus the nudity part) applies to Western civilization in 2023. It sucks that we don’t have a good consistent international data source on this stuff, because it’s be interesting to compare how it changes over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 08:52 AM
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It’s the socialism most people are complaining about, dude. It’s the fact the study is from a really unreliable country that has been known to manipulate statistics to make themselves look better. Also, I thought East Germany was communist, not socialist.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 08:38 AM
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I’m a bi man and I feel the same way. Women are just inherently more attractive than men imo. Most bi people I talk to seem to agree with this. My guess is it has something to do with women just having more visual indicators for attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 02:03 AM

Wish he would have worked out at Chelsea. He had a lot of flair
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 09:39 PM
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I’m bi, not gay. I just date women now. All I’m saying is presence does change peoples attractiveness. I’m not saying looks don’t matter, they do, but there is more to attraction than just jawlines.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 09:31 PM
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Dude, I’ve dated men before (I’m male) and they were all shorter than me (I’m over 6ft). Yeah, tall guys are attractive, but men who have a pleasant presence are way more attractive to me than a tall guy who’s slouched and has zero confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 09:29 PM
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Have you ever seen an actor play two different roles and hold themselves differently? Surely you have. That’s presence.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 09:24 PM
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Your last part is a really important bit a lot of men on here seem to forget. Be yourself, and you’ll attract the right kind of person for you. It’s impossible to please everyone, and a person everyone wants to date doesn’t exist. Some people will dislike you, and that’s ok. Move on and find someone who likes you for who you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 09:22 PM
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I’m definitely not a typical man on this sub, but for me, sex is a key part of romantic expression. I’m not personally interested in casual sex, but I do really want romantic and meaningful sex and I couldn’t imagine a relationship without it. There is a romantic component to my sexual desire, and not fulfilling that desire can be frustrating and depressing at times.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 03:14 AM
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I think it used to be traditional for obvious reasons, but now it’s just baked into the cake and part of the dating experience. A lot of our customs used to have more meaning but now we just do them because that’s the way things are. People still want the fantasy romance we’re sold in stories. A man trying to impress a woman is often times the dynamic and paying for dinner is an easy (although admitting low effort) way to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 04:40 PM
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How they explain it is overly complicated but it’s basically just mindfulness. Don’t let your emotions control you or your reactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 11:18 PM
1

I mean, I have lots of sexual experience in a relationship, just not with a lot of different people. But yeah, I think I’ll be happier in the long run this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 06:39 PM
1

Hahaha I’ve never heard the term volcel, but I guess I am. Thanks! It’ll work out eventually
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 05:58 PM
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I feel this, although I’m not redpill. I’m pretty sure I’m above average attractiveness based on photos I posted to photofeeler, I’m over six feet tall, and I have a good career. I’ve had women I’ve met IRL basically offer me sex, but I’m only interested in sex in an emotionally committed relationship. So I’m left in this position where I’m trying to find the right woman and don’t want to settle - it’s pretty lonely at times. I don’t even think my standards are high looks wise, I’m not into conv…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 05:45 PM
1

Access to her? What is she to you, a vending machine?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 11:38 AM
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There is no problem here. But you said earlier you wouldn’t accept dates that aren’t to a fancy restaurant, I’m just pointing out how you’re going in expecting the free dinner, and don’t seem to concerned about the important thing, finding a connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 06:34 PM
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Exactly. Which is why men reduce the risk by vetting on a simple date. I don’t care if a girl wants to wear makeup. If you spend the money on a fancy dress and expensive makeup, that’s your choice, not mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 06:27 PM
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How am I supposed to know if I’ll enjoy having a meal with you just based on app interactions? If I don’t enjoy the meal, will you pay for your half?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 06:02 PM

Yeah, what do you know. Not much. Dysphoria is a body image issue like an eating disorder. Trans people like villainize detrans people because it shows that people can solve dysphoria without needing to medicate themselves with hormones or remove healthy body parts. Telling someone who hates their body, that you need to listen to that hatred is disgusting and why gender affirming care is being restricted in European countries. There isn’t clinical evidence to show it actually helps. We need to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 07:58 PM

So just trans people overall then?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 07:44 PM

I mean, most detrans people are going through a crisis of identity, that’s the point of the sub. So it makes sense people are talking about their challenges. Once you’ve detranstioned, you just go about your life. I detransitioned myself, and it can be a chaotic period in your life. Maybe it’s an impulsive choice for some, but in my experience in that community, it’s something you struggle with for a long time before making that decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 07:39 PM

Why do you think they’re suffering from borderline personality disorder?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 07:27 PM

Trying to get better at approaching women IRL. Saw a cute girl at a concert who was by herself, so I started a conversation and got her contact info. Just getting over the fear of rejection felt good. Doing it this once will definitely make it easier in the future. I definitely had this big worry about being a creep, but so much of it is in your head at the end of the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 02:26 PM

Dating apps are just a tool. Some tools work better for some than others. If you’re short and below average attractiveness, dating apps probably won’t be as good for as meeting people IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 02:22 PM
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Makes sense. I’d agree, some trans women who pass well at hot. But yeah, lacking a biological vagina is a pretty big turn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 06:13 PM
2

Sorry, I took your comment on Scarlet Johansson to mean you’d be open to dating her with a penis (thus a trans woman).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 06:07 PM
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You’re different than most men then. Only 3% of men are open to dating a trans woman at all. Turns into straight men don’t like penises, or surgically constructed vaginas. Who knew?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 05:47 PM
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This is somewhat true. Men store more fat in their midriff, while women store more fat around their body, including their face. So weight will show on a woman’s face quicker, most likely. And facial attractiveness is probably the most important part of being attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 06:53 PM
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It depends on the guy and how the woman is portioned, but I’d say it’s very common for men to like thick thighs. Thick doesn’t mean overweight though, obviously. In my experience wider thighs normally means wider hips and butt as well. Yeah, I’d say a true hourglass is uncommon, around 1/10 according to the stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 03:21 AM
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Thanks for the link. My preferred type is pear shaped, so I’m glad they aren’t super rare. I do wonder how it varies across ethnic groups. I’m in a place with a lot of Portuguese and Italian women, and they all have very wide hips. It’s definitely higher than 1/5 it feels like.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 01:13 AM
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On the hourglass only being present in 8% of women, where did you get that stat? I was trying to find a statistical breakdown on what body types women have and couldn’t find anything. I feel like what a lot of men would consider hourglass might also include triangle shaped bodies. An hourglass means the same portions for bust and hips, with a smaller waist, but a lot of women with smaller breasts might still have a more bottom heavy hourglass that the majority of men would find very attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 01:01 AM
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I read a book about a character who went on a gruelling quest. I have zero desire for that life, I’d much prefer to stay at home than slay a dragon. But it’s fun to read about. Romance is the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 07:42 PM
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A girl trying to dirty talk and be sexy gave me the ick, recently. I barely knew her but she acted like it was a porno and it was super weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 05:08 PM
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Ok, but that’s a really good talent in todays world. He also had the drive to use that talent. He’s clearly not just an ordinary guy. Maybe he’s average in looks, I’d agree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 01:36 AM
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Clearly he was more than an ordinary dude. He must have some ability if he scales up his content to this level.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 01:18 AM
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My controversial stereotype is that men will believe in stereotypes even if they are over generalizations.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 07:50 PM
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In my experience women won’t ask you out, but put themselves in your orbit and make it very easy for you to hit on them with little pressure.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:18 PM

I feel like a lot of men won’t divorce but check out of marriages, often times cheating in the process.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:10 PM

I think if you took radical feminism and took the aggressive man hating out of it, they’re closer to the truth than other forms of feminism. They recognize women and men are different and experience life in vastly different ways due to our biology. They also encourage women to not give away sex to men without work from the man. To put it in terms the red pill will understand, they encourage women to not be “hoes”.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 10:37 PM
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Yeah, it sucking sucks. She just expects you to handle all areas of her life, and you end up doing two peoples worth of work and stress. Ideally, you want a partner who can handle their fair share of the load to balance things out.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 08:58 PM
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That’s great to hear! Glad you found someone who loves you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 08:30 PM
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Sorry that happened. Women and men can both be shitty people. Sadly, it sometimes takes years to find this out about someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 08:16 PM
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Gay men are some of the most brutal men out there. Media makes them seem kind and nice, but they spit fire when they want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:55 PM
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“Currycel” hahaha JFC Feel for my Indian brothers. They have it hard out there despite generally seeming like decent men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:43 PM

Oh, a lot on both sides are misandrist. I’m just pointing out that you’re talking about two different schools of thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:23 PM

There are different types of feminism. The ones mad at trans people are radical feminists who believe women and men are different in the basis of biology. Some of them, in a weird way, are almost the opposite of red pill and believe men are useless and violent, and don’t have much value elsewise. They don’t believe someone can identify into womanhood because woman means female biology. Liberal feminists are generally pro-trans, and believe gender (and often times sex) is a social construct. They…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:12 PM
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It’s gross to realize a girl is a great catch, won’t be single for long, and to want a chance with her? Ok… guess I’m disgusting then. Some of you on this forum are impossible to please.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:03 PM

I know, I never said it was any more special. You’re projecting something into the conversation you want to hear. I think you missed a word, because you said “men like me” so I assumed you were a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:00 PM
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Yup, that’s exactly what happened to my ex. There is a girl I really like who’s currently in a relationship that looks like it might end due to long distance, and I’m hoping I can have a chance with her if it does. You gotta move fast, and I know she has other men around her who are probably waiting to swoop in as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 04:14 PM
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This is so true. I was in a relationship with one for most of my 20’s and it ended for various reasons, but now when I go into the dating market it’s slim pickings for good wifey material. All the women I’ve met who I would consider to be a good marriage partner aren’t singe.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 04:03 PM
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I’m sure there a certain women who work that way, but the say all women are like that is completely false. A lot of women really like caring for others and I’ve actually had expressed me in the past by a partner that I didn’t need her emotionally and she felt at the relationship was really unbalanced and she wished I would open up more so the relationship would be more. If you’re a super depressed man then yeah you’re probably not gonna be able to find a girl very easily but if you’ve been datin…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 03:59 PM
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I think a lot of people here struggle to control their base level instincts and project that on everyone else. That’s why they’re so into fucking as many women as possible. Sure, a dude being depressed might make them less attractive, but a smart women will be supportive and help him move past it. Attraction fluctuates in relationships and that’s normal. Most people seem to think that you need to be at a 10 out of 10 level of attractiveness the whole time but when someone’s having a bad day it’s…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 03:56 PM

Exactly. Facial hair is like makeup for men. If you have a weak chin or jaw, you can hide it with a beard. Women who don’t have curves can improve that with working out, but not to the same extent men can with general muscle tone. Men definitely have a lot more control over their attractiveness than women do, imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 03:47 PM

Texting for non-logistics is fine, but for serious talk with anyone on any topic, please do it face to face. So much of our communication is based on body language and tone. Even if you’re an amazing writer, text is still so limited.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 02:11 PM

Or from having good hair that frames their face well.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 02:07 PM

I can see scenarios where people change themselves for the better to be with a partner. I remember there was a girl I liked in university who was a top student, so I worked harder at school to impress her. That wasn’t the worst thing in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 12:38 PM
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You’re not wrong that straight men on a societal level were the leaders of a lot of problematic movements. The part that woke activists miss though is humans are a complex group, and just because someone is a straight man doesn’t mean has directly caused or partakes in this. Yes, straight men receive privilege in society in certain ways whether they want it or not. But each man has their own story and to reduce it down to “straight men bad”, which a lot of people do, is dehumanizing straight men…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 12:17 PM
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I mean, sounds like we probably shouldn’t be dating than. If a man buying you stuff is your language, than I’m not the man for you. I gotta say though, it must be hard to find good men if your love language is “pay for me”. Any asshole with money can accomplish that. A good man will both help with that stuff, and do other romantic gestures.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:22 AM

I mean, the previous comment was saying that you need to like travel because all the pretty girls like travel. That’s what I was responding to. A lot of people here seem to focus on how attractive women are first, instead of how the connection works. If that’s not you, then great! I like how because I prefer creative hobbies than travelling, I’m pretentious. Sure, buddy. You know chicks really dig it when you can play them their favourite song, or write them a poem.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:19 AM

Agreed. I know a lot of women who try to change a guy, specially when it comes to stuff like helping around the home. If they haven’t figured out how to do that as an adult, they won’t change, at least based off my experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 02:29 AM

It actually makes me sad for them. I literally hooked up with someone last week. I’m not an incel by any means.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 02:28 AM

I don’t pick girls based on who’s the most attractive. I pick a girl who’s a good fit for my life. Also, way to assume I play video games. I maybe play a couple hours at most a month. I normally spend my evenings doing creative pursuits like learning music, writing, or reading. I mean, if you want a trophy instead of a human connection, yeah you’re probably going to need to be a travel bro to attract the super attractive women. Hope it works out for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 02:27 AM
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I’d agree with everything you said. Given how life normally plays out these days though, my future kids will likely live in a different place than me and I’ll only have so much influence over their life. I hope I’m able to teach them well enough that they can pick a good partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 08:48 PM
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Date women for who they are, not who you want them to be. I’m attracted to modest nerdy girls who prefer a night in. Asking a woman who likes to travel, go clubbing, and go to the beach in revealing bikinis to stop doing those things isn’t fair to her, nor is it fair to me. Sure, those women are hot but there is more to a happy relationship than having a gf with sexy pics.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 08:34 PM

I’d agree men have been left behind in some ways. That’s what I mean by it might take a generation or two for masculinity to adapt. And of course womens role changing would impact how men’s roles change. They’re very interwoven and play off of each other. While child rearing had always been a bigger focus for females than males, the trad wife ideal isn’t exactly natural either, it’s just older than what we have now.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 08:19 PM

We’ve always adapted for civilization. I’ve been looking at a screen all day for work, nothing about that is natural. Humans haven’t lived in a “natural” way for thousands of years. Part of our advantage as a species is now adaptable we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 08:16 PM

I’m starting to wonder if women hypergamous nature actually just makes civilization better. If men are trying to outcompete each other, they’ll do things to create more value for themselves, which normally trickles down to the rest of the tribe. If the caveman version of me tries to impress women by being a good hunter, that’s a benefit for the whole tribe. Now, keep that going generation over generation, you end up with civilization with complex structures. I think a few things have happened th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 05:33 PM
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I know. I play it cautious and pay just to be safe. I imagine most women on dating apps have more options than me, so gotta do whatever I can to stay at the top of the pile.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 05:15 PM
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Modern women have rightly been taught that they need to be able to provide for themselves so they don’t get stuck in a shitty relationship. We can talk about how that’s distorted the dating market all we like (it probably has in some ways but things will adjust over time I believe) but the reason women do this is very valid. If I had a daughter, I’d want to make sure she wouldn’t be in a position where she has to stay in a shitty relationship to get by.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 03:46 PM
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I appreciate women like you. I tend to feel like I have to offer to pay for the meal, and most of the time, women accept. Maybe there is no correlation here, but I’d much rather date an independent woman, and a woman who offers to pay for her own part of the bill makes her more attractive to me. If I want to do something nice for her, I’ll make her a meal myself, or do something like write a poem. Just throwing money at a woman seems like a strange way to win her affection in this day and age.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 12:59 PM
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What I find odd about this debate is if men don’t want women to dress like that, why do they go for women like that? I’d agree, revealing clothes are sexually attractive and grab my attention. But I don’t feel a strong desire to pursue those women. An attractive woman who dresses modesty is WAY more attractive to me because it shows we have similar values. Lots of women who are good looking aren’t interested in overly sexualizing themselves. I don’t think it’s a red flag, it’s just men thinking …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 09:59 PM
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When a dude is taller than me, it’s super weird to look up at someone. They do feel more powerful than me. Knowing that’s how I make everyone else feel really puts it into perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 09:16 PM
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As a tall man, totally agree. People just trust me and follow my lead. I was a quiet introvert for my early life, but once I realized my power, it was easy to grow into the role of leader.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 08:19 PM
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My long term ex went from stick thin to filling out and getting curves and my attraction towards her skyrocketed. You’re right, running your hand along that shape just feels so fucking amazing. I think for women it’s height and muscle. I’ve been with men before, and tense muscles are really hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 02:07 PM
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Yeah, women with curves are way more visually appealing. It silly how simple geometry can be so appealing. Makes me understand why women want tall men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 11:12 AM

Fair enough. I guess I still gave it a shot with one of them
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 05:02 PM

I’m trying it, yeah. I wasn’t single for most of my 20’s so it’s my first time doing it and to be frank, it’s terrible. I have good social skills in person so I feel like it’s wasting my time. I just try to consider it a tool in my arsenal.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 04:55 PM

What do girls who post misleading photos on dating apps hope to accomplish on dates? I’ve been fat phished twice recently. Both times, the girls had photos that were full body shots were they where thin and average weight. They both showed up looking like almost different people. I’m guessing they gained weight over Covid, which fair enough, but I’m not into overweight women. I tried to give one of them a chance because she was nice to talk to, but once we started to hook up I couldn’t get hard …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 04:52 PM
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I’ve had a woman friend like me, and it turned into a relationship, but the friendship was only a little over a month. I think when it does happen for women, it happens fast, where as men will like a friend for years.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 04:20 PM
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