Spartan_Hoplite Archive

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5	The Married Man Wage Gap You confuse the causal relationship. Women select men who earn more or have more earning potential for marriage. Therefore, they are married because they earn more, not the other way around. Unmarried men are unmarried because they earn less, not the other way around. Here is a study which refutes the "marriage premium" argument https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0003122418784909	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/21 10:39 PM
2	Reuters: "Sexual activity among young American men has declined sharply since 2000, with nearly a third reporting no sex with a partner in the prior year... It is not cultural, it is biological - women have biological instinct to seek men of higher status (i.e. hypergamy) for protection. The necessity for protection is not there anymore, but biology does not change and it cannot be changed through culture. It can be suppressed, but not changed, which is why expecting that women will be happy with being main breadwinners is futile and not supported by data.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/06/20 05:12 PM
3	Reuters: "Sexual activity among young American men has declined sharply since 2000, with nearly a third reporting no sex with a partner in the prior year... It is well established from data that women who are primary breadwinners are not happy about it. https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-happiness-penalty-for-breadwinning-moms https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/11279824/Female-breadwinners-why-earning-more-can-poison-a-marriage.html The internet is full of stories like this one: https://www.npr.org/2016/12/03/504158266/i-dont-want-to-be-the-breadwinner-in-my-marriage-anymore This is obviously because changing cultural norms cannot change our biology, on …	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/06/20 09:09 PM
1	What realistically can be done to heal the relationship between the sexes? The problem with a "free market" model is that it is unsustainable in terms of building civilization, which is why comparison to animal species is moot. To build a stable and successful society it is necessary to regulate the market - otherwise it is male vs. male competition which make cooperation necessary to sustain social stability and order impossible. Also, we know that in a "free market" women do not choose men on the basis of traits which are positive for society (hard work, responsibili…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/04/20 12:47 PM
1	Would most women be happier in a traditional monogamous society? There absolutely is - marrying younger means longer time together at the peak of both spouses' attractiveness and less emotional baggage (such as alpha widowhood) from previous relationships. Again, people who marry later today are objectively those who more attractive (which is why they play the field and delay marriage) and with higher IQ (they pursue higher education and delay marriage). This is why their marriages last longer (and the divorce rate is very high in comparison to times of marri…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/20 05:03 PM
1	Would most women be happier in a traditional monogamous society? You don't consdier selection bias in play. Those who marry younger currently have higher divorce rates because they are often people with lesser prospects and lesser IQ - people with higher IQ tend to pursue higher education which delays marriage, so they don't marry young. So, the reason behind this statistic is not a propblem with marrying young, but rather patterns of who marries young today. Young marriage is still the best option overall as it allows to build a bond between the spouses earl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/20 04:21 PM
1	If traditional gender roles were so good for women, how come it is almost exclusively women who want to abandon them in favor of equality, while it is mainly men who support them? Traditional gender roles reflect biological differences between men and women - men are more fit to work and provide than women (studies have demonstrated that women are less capable of handling stress and have higher levels of neuroticism), while women are better in nurturing children and running a household than men (again, studies proved than an average women does better job caring for a child than average man). Traditional gender roles reflect that and allow both men and women to do what the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/09/19 09:46 PM
1	Do TRPillers and other neoreactionaries not understand the problems that come with economic dependence and submission? /Do TRPillers not understand the problems that come with economic dependence and submission or do they just pretend not to understand? Do you not understand how this kind of economic dependence leaves women vulnerable to manipulation and abuse? Do you not understand how women were expected to obey the male authority, even in cases where the man was totally incompetent? Are we just going to pretend that economic dependence is some awesome thing that everyone should strive for What you miss is tha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/09/19 09:32 PM
3	Why a more traditional society wouldn't work 1) Yes, many Japanese women do want careers and are willing to either forego or significantly delay marriage and family because of that, which contributes to lower birthrates. https://www.dw.com/en/why-fewer-japanese-are-seeking-marriage/a-19349576-0 https://japantoday.com/category/features/lifestyle/do-young-japanese-women-want-to-be-housewives "Another factor, Watanabe said, is the relatively new-found "freedom" that young Japanese have, as a result of decreasing social pressure to settle down…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/19 10:45 PM
3	Why a more traditional society wouldn't work Hardly. Many Japanese women want to have careers and thus often give up on marriage and family because they know that pregnacy means end of their career (Japanese government tries to change that, with little success so far). There is also an insane culture of work which makes it nigh-on impossible for many people to socialize and form families (lack of free time). These factors contribute to low birth rates - Japan is very far from traditional pre-sexual revolution western society. If women were…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/19 08:55 PM
1	Why a more traditional society wouldn't work What a loads of nonsense. Women entering the workforce has been and is detrimental to the economy, contrary to what the OP claims. 1) Women in the workforce + feminism results in lower birthrates which brought reproduction in Western countries to below replacement levels. This means older and older society with less people working and more receiving pensions. With such a shape of age pyramid the system of pensions is bound to collapse sooner rather than later (not enough workers paying for pensi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/19 07:31 PM
1	Why doesn't TRP advocate a political solution for what they perceive as society's decline? This is something that centuries of philosphy failed to prove. If you have the answer, share it with the world. Philosophy did very well to demonstrate the existence of God, starting from arguments of Aristotle and Plato through St. Thomas Aquinas and many others. Existence of God is necessary and sufficient condition for existence of objective and transcendental morality. This assumes that the right way to judge a system is by its capacity to build civilizations. Civilization is a necessary pre…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/19 04:48 PM
2	Why doesn't TRP advocate a political solution for what they perceive as society's decline? First, you assume that worldview is necessarily subjective and a matter of opinion, which is an error, because morality is objective and transcendental, apart from our wishes or opinions. Some deeds and views are inherently immoral. There is objective morality, just as there is objective truth. But you are correct in a sense that from your perspective of radical subjectivism any debate is pointless. Second, there is enough empirical evidence for superiority of patriarchy over current gynocentric…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/19 04:29 PM
2	Why doesn't TRP advocate a political solution for what they perceive as society's decline? Give me a single example where that works better than a democracy and I will consider it. Of course, it will necessarily depend upon one's worldview, but for me such examples are General Franco's Spain, Antonio Salazar's Portugal, Catholic monarchies in Europe in medieval and Renessaince periods, going further back in history some ancient poleis thrived under rule of competent dictators. There is no law or government program that forces people to steal, murder, break the law, or sell drugs. Even…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/19 04:16 PM
2	Why doesn't TRP advocate a political solution for what they perceive as society's decline? It is not true than under different system than democracy there would be no opportunities of improving - a competent dictatorship or monarchy with a right approach to economy can very well succeed and create a stable state which opportunities of social advancement. And yes, we do force people into roles regardless of their wishes and efforts all the time - we do it, to name just few examples, with thieves, murderers, criminals, drug dealers etc. We actively discriminate against their wishes and …	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/19 04:00 PM
5	Why doesn't TRP advocate a political solution for what they perceive as society's decline? Women should not vote. In a traditional model of family, which worked very well for centuries and is based on both biology and moral values, husband is the head of the family who makes decisions. Thus, it would be entirely reasonable that the husband will vote in the name of his family, which makes women voting both unnecessary and undesirable. Also, women tend to base their decisions on feelings and are less rational then man (which, again, has biological reasons, as it makes women more capable…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/19 03:48 PM
4	Is unhinged hypergamy a potential threat to men's productivity? What to do to restrain hypergamy? What Western civilization has always done. Return to patriarchy and marriage 1.0, abolishing no fault divorce, drastically reducing welfare (only those truly unfortunate who cannot work, mostly for health reasons, should get it), stop affirmative action in favor of women in education, bringing back social stigma for fornication and adultery.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/05/18 05:28 PM
1	Is it time to turn the clock back on society by like 50 years? Again, a mix of good and terrible ideas. The failure of socialism is inherent to this economic system, not just a result of feminism (although the two certainly go together - feminism could never exist without socialism and welfare state financing it). Socialism will always fail, because to finance it you have to either tax people heavily (thus strangling business, economic growth and job market), or borrow money (which in long term leads to disaster). There is no way around it, which is why soc…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/05/18 05:39 PM
1	Is it time to turn the clock back on society by like 50 years? The diagnosis of the problem is correct of course (below replacement fertility rates will bring Western Civilization to oblivion), but solutions proposed by the OP range from good, through naive to outright terrible. Any solution must take into account both economy and human nature, and that means a balance between means of coercion and incentives - both are necessary to have a functional society, while the OP proposes only the former without the latter. Both carrot and stick are essential. Firs…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/05/18 04:07 PM