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Purge Week!Special-Armadillo-99/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:19 AM
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Purge Week!Special-Armadillo-99/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 09:30 PM
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There are singular women will deal with men being unsure and unconfident
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 12:59 AM
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Women show men this via their behavior. Women are so fickle they get the "ick" if you message them first, or message them back too quickly, or at the wrong time etc There are singular women who will deal with men being unsure and unconfident. But women as a whole will not. Women as a whole are contemptuous spoiled and fickle as can be. They have so many options they are like an employer with 20k job applications. They are gonna start being really judgmental about very inconsequential things.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 12:14 AM
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Not sure what you're referring to
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 12:08 AM
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Only way to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 11:16 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Cringetopia/comments/u3sdo3/i_want_this_doctor_oh_god_we_matched_and_hes/ Got "the ick" from a doctor she matched with on Twitter because he dared to message her. Women are at all time high levels of entitlement
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 11:02 PM
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Please appeal to modmail which is an extremely inconvenient way to communicate so I don't have to defend my position that you are using incel content here where everyone could see and call me on my nonsense. 😜
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 09:11 PM
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My thoughts exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 09:06 PM
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No incel content
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 09:05 PM
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Men find 80% of women attractive. Personality isn't the only mitigating factor for negotiating attraction. Yes when you phrase it as simply as he doesn't feel attracted to ugly women and women the same but reversed it sounds the same. But when you actually see what that looks like in practice the difference is fathoms and further
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 02:20 PM
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It is acceptable for her to change, but she is going to have to face the consequences of that choice. You can't force men to be okay with being treated less well than your last partner, even if you don't view it that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 01:39 PM
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I still haven't. He's not saying what you claim he is. And men find all women who aren't physically or mentally handicapped attractive to solve extent. Again, look at celebrities cheating on their hot wives with average chick's. It is a gendered issue. You are just trying to oversimplify it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 01:37 PM
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And? Nobody said women should be interested in every single man that shows them interest?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 12:51 PM
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I disagree. If it's okay for a partner to not do what they did with past partners the example of a girl providing pleasure in a certain way to 50 past partners but not for you illustrates how this concept is absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 12:50 PM
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He didn't say he can't force attraction he simply said he'd like an attractive partner
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 12:44 PM
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I don't read this at all how you presented it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 12:42 PM
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Nobody said anything about need. It's a useful tool to exaggerate to illustrate the final cost or state of any given idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 12:19 PM
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I see plenty of below average men talking about it's not their fault that can't feel attraction for someone ugly as well. Never seen that. They can't help that, but neither can women. You're comparing the lack of attraction to literally birth defected or otherwise ill women from men to the lack of attraction to completely normal men from women. Just no. It isn't the same at all. It is completely logical to not be attracted to a someone who was born with a defect, it's not logical at all to claim…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 12:18 PM
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Women have tried everything with 8 different guys they can't imagine a situation where they didn't know exactly what they do or don't want
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 02:59 AM
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Hyperbolic to prove a point
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 02:58 AM
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It isn't a binary though, is it? It's not completely sexually open vs complete prude, and people change and want to try new things.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 02:57 AM
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Actions speak louder than words. Women don't have to say they value men who women want more they show it. Women say all the time the sex that men want to have with them is meaningless are every one of them virgins?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 02:53 AM
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You're not understanding my point. Men don't think they are superior to others because of sex, women think that. Women think the men who are sexually attractive are superior. So that's just projection that men think themselves superior. Scarcity is what produces value. Sex is not scarce for these men therefore it holds no value. The fact that it is scarce for others makes no difference except to the others.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 06:25 PM
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They don't believe that, women tell them that through their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 04:58 PM
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But they didn't earn the selection and for those guys it isn't scarce. For the men women find attractive women aren't scarce.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 03:26 AM
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Said no awesome person ever
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 09:34 PM
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Things being cheaper 30 years ago doesn't somehow imply you didn't work hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 07:11 PM
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Must be nice to find sexual attention flattering and affirming like that, rather than to know that all the sexual attention you will ever get is empty and meaningless. Exactly the opposite. Men get special attentions for being far above average, that only happens with good genetics. So the men who get sexual attentions are exactly like the women that do
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 07:11 PM
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You do realize shit in the 90s was like way fucking cheaper right? Don't strain yourself with all that patting yourself on the back
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 07:09 PM
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So yes, I was pretty interesting. And very humble
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 07:04 PM
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So you think 1 in 5 people have this proclivity
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 04:18 PM
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What percentage of people do you think have this instinct
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 04:01 PM
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Your not answering why this would be the go to tactic vs treating them well
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 01:07 PM
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This attitude seems very insecure. It sounds as if this attitude would lead someone to be on edge and stressed. This whole "I don't be a doormat for ANYONE!!" attitude is antithetical to natural conversation. Everybody puts their foot in their mouth at one point or another. Heck I've done it and I'm sure you have to. But to react to that situation with hostility only makes it seem like the one who is upset is an unstable person. Conflict can be useful but only when necessary. People don't like u…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 11:14 PM
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I guess a lot is s subjective term
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 11:05 PM
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This is so vague it means nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 10:48 PM
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It’s worked out for me :) Completely meaningless. People are going to do dumb shit sometimes even on accident. If you react with hostility to every perceived slight people are just going to think your the one with the problem, and they'd be right
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 10:34 PM
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I mean, it's very surface level disrespectful if my daughter ever let that sort of non issue bother her I'd be disappointed
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 10:17 PM
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No I believe they want someone they can love mentally and physically the difference lies in what that actually turns out to be
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 10:12 PM
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Well obviously that approach doesn't work 100% of the time but that's more of a not every girl thinks I'm hot thing I imagine
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 10:02 PM
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No, the thing is they don't behave in a way that is in accordance with what they say
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 09:42 PM
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When I started acting like myself, Just be yourself bro. maintaining my “kind” sensibilities, But they also like nice guys. but also stood up for myself or called people out on things, BUT also assertive. I had so much more success in connecting with other people, and dating became exponentially easier. Learning effective communication also really helps - if you can speak up for yourself while still being polite and respectful, you’ll go far in life in general All of this is blue pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 09:00 PM
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I didn't specifically choose anything. I saw a girl I found attractive and acted on it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 08:53 PM
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So you weren’t actually dating her? No, obviously, but again, we were hooking up the nice thing would have been not to fuck her friend. The dick thing would be to ignore the girl you've been making out with to fuck her friend. Because context matters. Was it said as part of a playful negging banter or was it meant to be a nasty insult? I just said it because it was true. It's not a nice thing to simply blatantly point out soneones faults Did she smile and come back with something or did she look…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 06:33 PM
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She was interested in me and we were sort of hooking up but she was hot and cold. I went to a party and ended up fucking her friend. She was at the party and she knew. How did the gums girl react to your comment? Why does it matter? In what world does how somebody reacts to something modify the statement? Yes she put out after and she had been pretty prudish before. But I'm sure you're going to explain away everything even though I know for damn sure that stuff was assholish as fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 06:04 PM
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I didn't downvote anything. I'm saying the way you present what being confident is, is the way a woman would describe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 05:52 PM
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Telling a girl her gums were too big. Fucking her friend. Saying I didn't want to see her again because she didn't put out. All of these worked for me
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 05:48 PM
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There's a difference between judging and being judgemental. It was the very first fucking comment lmfao. Why do you guys hate to admit the truth?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 05:43 PM
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It's blue pilled because it falls exactly in line with the female narrative and imperative.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 05:37 PM
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I flipped that line and acted uncaringly towards them, was more judgmental of their looks and made insensitive remarks and inappropriate jokes than what I was normally capable of. Yeah this is pretty assholish dunno what you think you were proving
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 05:04 PM
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So blue pill
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 05:03 PM
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So they're less likely to leave because they have no more options. Why would this be a go to move vs just treating them well so they didn't want to leave?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 03:12 PM
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Yes which is why it's so odd to me that they try to act like men pick crazy too. No they don't, there's just far too many crazy women. Where as women actually choose for crazy men. They feel positive about dark triad abusive traits until they are in the receiving end
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 02:10 PM
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There's a large crossover between true narcissism and sociopaths but I think the thing that makes it more likely to be sociopathy is that they are scheming ways to control you through abuse. That doesn't occur to someone with empathy. It takes a level of deviousness and gaslighting that goes far beyond narcissism. Regardless true diagnosable Narcissists are also very very rare. So this idea that abuse as a form of control is common is nonsense. I think most women engage in post hoc reasoning whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 02:07 PM
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Nowhere in the definition far they are incapable it repeatedly says little to none. So some feel none but many feel very little empathy etc. The ones who feel very little empathy are the ones we are referring to. And just because they could kill you with zero remorse doesn't mean they will. It has to make sense to them to do so
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 01:43 PM
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Yes I'm sure you're a unicorn
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 01:38 PM
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What are considered sociopathic traits or sociopathic traits? Here are some of the potential signs and traits of a person with antisocial personality disorder: A lack of empathy for others Little to no genuine remorse The manipulation of other people Lying and deceit A sense of superiority over others Little to no regard for right or wrong The belief that rules do not apply to them Getting into legal trouble or a little regard for the law A lack of responsibility or engaging in irresponsible beh…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 01:34 PM
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He. Doesn't. Need. To. Women LIKE that kind of behavior. It's an advantage. Every woman will say they want a bad boy who is nice to them. So they see the features of being an aggressive asshole as good but they act surprised when it's turned on them
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 01:30 PM
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So caring about a relationship is bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 01:26 PM
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The issues I'm referring to are abusive tendencies. Women like loud strong aggressive men then act as though they were decieved when they are the focal point of that aggression. Men so not like loud aggressive women, so women hide it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 01:23 PM
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Ok well women are pretty pathetic then as again, it is them, not men who have to hide their issues
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 01:16 PM
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If neither of you realize it's happening how can it be said to be anyone's doing? There is no "abuse her or she will leave" instinct in healthy non sociopathic people, and the number of actual sociopaths is incredibly small. So while what you're saying may happen it's more closely related to having a mental disorder which very few have then a lack or abundance of options. In fact that type of sociopathic behavior is very dark triad so anyone who displays it will likely do very well with women
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 01:10 PM
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I don't really see how they have to be experts. They just realize that acting a certain way doesn't get them the results they want so they pretend.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 01:08 PM
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I don't know how I can make that any clearer? Not abuse you or your consent? Not fuck your best girl friend or otherwise cheat? Not slap you for being disrespectful? A man with many options has no reason to not do these things. You're meaningless to him. A man with few options will want to try and preserve what you have because he values it so had incentive to treat you well
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 01:07 PM
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So the women will lie and hide it, as it is a detriment, whereas men don't lie and hide it because for them it's an advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 12:56 PM
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How would abusing them prevent them from leaving more than treating her well? Most people are not brilliant sociopaths. A person with options has no incentive to treat you well, they will take what they want and leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 12:28 PM
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Yes it's a nicer pump and dump but it's a pump and dump
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 12:12 PM
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Over a third of women are on anti depressants or anti psychotic medication. So the simple answer is there are just a lot more crazy women than crazy men. Any chick you want to date has a 1 in 3 chance at being loco
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 12:04 PM
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That's exactly the opposite of the scarcity paradigm we see in every other aspect of humanity. If you only have one car and it breaks down your more likely to fix it then if you have ten cars you can drive at any time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 12:00 PM
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Men should not throw away their dignity and brotherhood with other men just to pursue a woman. It's women that cause this by homie hoppin
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 11:56 AM
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Men's reputation nosedives if he bitches about his life. And while I think men aren't broken women and don't benefit as much from the constant overstating, it's crazy to me how open women are to sharing with their best friend but not their partner
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 11:53 AM
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It's still a pump and dump if they are nice about it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 11:42 AM
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I men it's possible either way I was simply pointing out the possibility
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 09:47 PM
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Subconscious means you don't recognize its happening on a conscious level
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 04:59 PM
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That's not how it works. Nobody is in 100% control of every subconscious behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 01:55 PM
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What? 60% of men are fathers per the source I'm pointing out that it wouldn't take much paternity fraud to turn that number to 50% which would be more alarming
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 01:54 PM
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It's inhuman to not let expectations alter behavior. It happens to every human being you aren't an exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 12:53 PM
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Huh? Why wouldn't a trip to the docs count?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 11:59 PM
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We aren't going to agree that calling someone and saying be there at 8 is work.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 11:39 PM
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I never said housework wasn't work I said if you combine in the house work with outside of the house work men do more work by an hour I believe. So the reality doesn't line up with what women say
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 11:26 PM
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👍
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 10:43 PM
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So something that never happens unless it's a medical professional
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 08:27 PM
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I guess I don't really understand. If you ghost them how do they tell you that? Are you saying they said that before you ghost them? If so, why would they they say that? How would they know you're about to ghost them? It seems from the outside looking in you simply got the urge to ghost because you weren't getting the level of attention you wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 07:05 PM
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You say your confidence and behavior is not altered one bit, but then you say you can reliably get results if you dress a certain way. It's literally impossible that your behavior isn't altered by those expectations. This just sounds like confirmation bias
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 07:02 PM
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When you say they underestimate your ability to not speak to them again it doesn't sound like you think they are ignoring you or don't like you or why would they be estimating your ability to ghost them?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 06:54 PM
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Gosh women love to ghost and burn bridges it's so dang odd
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 06:31 PM
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Confidence levels and how you carry yourself is subconscious. This would be like saying women don’t care about fit men because they don’t care about how long he bulked and whether he did bicep curls with kettle bells or dumbbells. A more accurate analogy that is specific to my argument would be, a man with muscles is only more attractive than himself without muscles. A hotter man without muscles will still get more attention than an ugly man with muscles. Because that's my argument. A woman dres…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 06:20 PM
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Just to make sure we are on the same page I'm referring to data about who works more in and outside the home. It's not directly referring to things like "relationships effort" as that is too subjective to get any sort of accurate measure on. The reason I think this data is valid is women will include housework as relationship related.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 06:12 PM
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Huh. Well either way, you're still talking about specific types. What I'm talking about is a skirt that doesn't match your purse or nails that aren't painted vs are, which again is an entirely different topic to dressing in a completely different style. And to your anecdote about men approaching you, there's still too many variables, different locations attracting different types. Your confidence level being higher etc. It's just not possible to pin it down.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 05:30 PM
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What do you think stud means? I've not heard it in the context you're using it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 05:15 PM
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No it isn't and that's not even really possible, you get the exact number of men every time you dress a certain way.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 05:03 PM
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The data is only survey data all hard data indicates men work more than women in and out of relationships meaning more work in the home and outside total. Those are the only hard numbers
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 04:33 PM
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But you can't know they because you're inferring correlation is causation. You're literally going since x happened when I did y, x caused y. That's not sound logic
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 04:23 PM
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I'm saying TO THE WOMAN it doesn't matter if it's true I'm not saying it doesn't matter if it's true I'm trying to point out women aren't likely to view the situation objectively
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 02:40 PM
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I haven't seen it. I've seen women shrieking it everywhere, but that's because women are more neurotic and are also solipsistic. It doesn't matter if it's true they are doing more for the relationship it only matters if they feel like it's true
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 02:34 PM
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Correlation doesn't infer causation, and again, this is entirely anecdotal
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 02:32 PM
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Yeah I don't know. I'd have to guess feminism played a large part in their demonization of the entire system of marriage but it certainly couldn't be that alone
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 02:30 PM
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Did you just skip over the bit about it being unreliable BECAUSE there's too many variables? You'd have to walk in to the same place with the same guys in attendance for the first time twice to make that statement reliably because again there are other factors at play here. Such as how many men happen to be single at any given location.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 12:10 PM
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Type? No I disagree with that assessment. Style can have an effect on the Type of men. As for the number it's simply not a reliable metric as well as being anecdotal. There could be more single men at that particular location for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 11:27 AM
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Why is the default assumption that women are doing more than men in relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 10:59 AM
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But not about appealing to certain types of men with different looks
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 12:34 AM
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We're talking about two different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 11:44 PM
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There's so many different variables it means nothing but types of men isn't even the point of this convo. If the question was does dressing in a style similar to a certain subculture get you more attention from that subculture no duh. But we weren't talking about appealing to any subculture we were talking about being more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 11:18 PM
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Women are not being charged for their crimes because men aren't calling the police on them. I never said women are getting anything men aren't I said they need it more than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 08:42 PM
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well it's men who are the police officers protecting women from criminals, but the criminals are equally men and women!" I didn't say this. The point of the domestic violence stat was to show how women are very violent but just reported less. This is likely because men don't need the protection of police officers from the women they are with
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 08:17 PM
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You can't narrow men down to a type and claim that all men who are sporty think and are attracted to the exact same people
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 07:14 PM
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Yes. I've acknowledged this, but she looks better than a person who looks exactly like herself. The only person she is edging out is one who is at her exact same level of attractiveness by default. That's not a situation you're going to run into in real life
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 07:13 PM
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And. The. Reason. They. Don't. Need. To. Date. Men. Is. They. Have. Outsourced. The. Needs. That. A. Husband. Would. Have. Provided. I don't get what is confusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 07:03 PM
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But the results are with different men in different situations. That's not an accurate test
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 07:02 PM
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Exactly what I said dude I don't understand what the miscommunication is. Women say they don't need men. But they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 07:01 PM
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The situation I'm referring to as unrealistic is two women who are exactly as attractive as each other. They'd have to be identical. So no, that's not a realistic situation and you're not moving up on a scale of 1-10 with fashion, at least not in a man's eyes. Why do women want to argue with men on the matter of what men find attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 06:57 PM
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The only way you could prove that is to have 2 women who look exactly the same and have one wear fake nails, but we know that's impossible
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 06:55 PM
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I've already stated my point like 4 times. Women still need men, they have just outsourced that need
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 06:54 PM
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Police don't only protect others from violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 06:53 PM
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Most companies are owned by men. Women do stuff for men to get money just like they always have now it's just some random guy vs your husband. Women disproportionately need protection as they are weaker
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 06:27 PM
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Yes they are a tiny proportion. They don't protect any significant portion because they don't make up any significant portion
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 06:25 PM
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I don't think those things make a difference to men
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 05:58 PM
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Yes so it only gives you a very slight edge over a woman in a potato sack who exactly matches your attractiveness level. Not really a realistic situation so I don't see the benefit
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 05:57 PM
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So you don't agree with your own post
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 05:56 PM
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Why not reevaluate how you view people whose clothes you like as better? Why should others try to conform to your shallow standards instead of you self improving?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 05:28 PM
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In the sense that a pair of pants that highlight the curvature of a girl's anus will get them attention but I'd argue it's not the style getting them attention
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 05:19 PM
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Then they say "why aren't men putting in as much effort as I am?" When it's like, men don't give a fuck about how much effort you put in to your fashion. A hot chick wearing a potato sack will get more attention than an ugly girl with impeccable style.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 05:17 PM
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And ?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 04:18 PM
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What is being pointed out is things like security and money used to be part of dating a man and now women still need men for these things just men they aren't dating
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 04:18 PM
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Nah domestic violence rates are about even when you look at surveys they just get reported less
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 10:06 AM
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Sure but the number is very low
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 03:49 AM
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Except that men aren't organized and that women commit crimes too. So yeah, nothing like that
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 08:32 PM
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Yes because women don't commit any crimes at all lmfao. Nobody made any demands though? I simply pointed out the reality that these independent kuweens still need men they've just outsourced. And bad people will always exist, men are the ones that protect women from bad people, men or other women. This reductive bullshit about only needing men to protect them from other men is obvious nonsense and even if it were true wouldn't change the reality that they still need protection from men
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 07:46 PM
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I'm saying you liked their personality because they were hot
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 06:26 PM
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You think they had great personalities because of the halo effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 05:38 PM
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Halo effect
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 05:16 PM
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You honestly believe no person has ever learned anything from being told? That's just preposterous. Why do you think Asian children are so disproportionately successful? Because their parents drill into their heads how important the things they are asking them to do are. You don't need to be telling someone to change, you could start before they make the bad decisions. It's a waste to tell someone else to change because you'll think no they are better off for it What? If people could change by w…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 02:36 PM
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Yeah I didn't say the best way to learn is not through experience I said there was nothing wrong with trying to teach someone to make good choices before they make the mistakes that will cost them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 01:57 PM
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Women still need men they have just outsourced their needs to men as a whole instead of one individual man. Then they claim they don't need a man, while calling male police and counting on overwhelmingly male military to protect them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 01:31 PM
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I mean it's subjective what would be alarming. 60% is a high number but if even 10% are paternity fraud that's only half which seems far more alarming.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 01:28 PM
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Men get women via acting shitty. Women like it. Women like assholes dark triad hard to get guys who get a ton of pussy. So when a woman gets with an asshole, more often than not she's getting what she asked for. With women it's the opposite. Men do not like rude shitty asshole women who are very promiscuous. They actively dislike those women. So the women will lie and hide it, as it is a detriment, whereas men don't lie and hide it because for them it's an advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 01:19 PM
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You're honestly suggesting women can sense that he thinks he could dick another woman and still love his wife and that is the reason that they don't like him?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 01:14 PM
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That doesn't answer his question
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 01:11 PM
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Women for sure, luckily for them they can use fake up. I'll honestly never understand how a woman can call themselves an adult and still do the following process: Looks at herself in the mirror, sees a plain average girl, puts make up on her face and then thinks "well now I should reject my plain average match. I'm hotter now." Nah bitch you just ugly with a mask on.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 01:10 PM
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I mean, it's sort of like anything else. Take credit for example. Having good credit is important for getting what you want from life. But paying bills doesn't feel good. Having money feels good. Yes eventually you will learn to adjust your standards and place more import on paying bills than blowing money that you owe on frivolity. But just because it happens naturally from not getting what you want till you make the change, by that time you already missed out on a lot. There's no harm in tryin…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 01:08 PM
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Which is infinitely better than your personal experience
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 10:50 AM
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Sure I definitely agree. The only point I was making is about the subjective nature of the definition of epidemic
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 02:12 AM
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I mean, does epidemic have a number qualification? I was under the impression that it was more subjective
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 01:41 AM
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More than one would assume I'd wager
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 11:58 PM
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K
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 10:41 PM
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You have zero credible info. All anecdotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 09:43 PM
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Your personal experience and opinions aren't superior to survey data. Sorry if that bothers you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 08:54 PM
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Bro it's reddit I'm not writing a novel and I don't need an editor.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 08:53 PM
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What. I'm saying the data the other user provided indicates cheating rates are similar. You not seeing it as often as women would indicate they are simply more secretive about it, not that the data is wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 06:28 PM
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All that would prove is women are more secretive about it, which checks out, women are much more manipulative and neurotic
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 06:10 PM
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I'm not into unnecessary punctuation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 06:01 PM
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I think if you can't understand what's being said there that's a you thing
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 05:34 PM
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I didn't say I was no man here ever said women shouldn't protect themselves that's how women interpret what men are saying not what is being said
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 04:59 PM
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Nobody believes women shouldn't protect themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 04:03 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 04:01 PM
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No. Husband gives you money and asks you to take care of your family? Bad. Boss gives you money and asks you to do his bidding that has nothing to do with your family? Good. There's no logical explanation
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 02:35 AM
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Yeah I honestly don't understand there's so many examples of stuff like this. They don't want to be told what to do by their husband but totally fine with their male boss dictating to them what to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 01:08 AM
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You still have a choice to act on your instincts. Having higher thought means you are accountable unless you want to claim women can do nothing but listen to their instincts which means they have no free will and are no better than animals and are not equal to men. In which case, yikes
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 12:33 AM
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Yeah a lot of "I paid half the rent for the place I lived" Wow such a pick me lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 12:15 AM
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I mean, a guy that absolutely never did would be considered gay, but generally yes it's the ability not the execution
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 12:15 AM
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A very sexually successful man that can get casual sex very easily and is sought after by many women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 12:06 AM
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When it's as important as you think it is, it certainly seems otherwise but that's not really the point
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 11:14 PM
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When you imply they can't be bothered to do something you're saying lazy without saying it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 10:52 PM
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False. Most men are content, not happy. I mean this is all anecdotal but this hasn't been my experience so i guess we can agree to disagree. Content means they're where they are and are often times unwilling to try new things (that their girls would often egg them on to do). Not at all. Nowhere in the definition of content is there any bit about being unwilling to try new things. If you don't try it, you don't know if you'll like it. Sure, so maybe women should try just being satisfied. I went f…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 10:34 PM
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But they are saying they are fine. You and other women are the ones telling them to endlessly chase some fleeting notion of better its gaddamn life goal hypergamy, very very few men feel any want or need to do this. The ones who feel good about where and what they are you say they are lazy. Do you not see the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 10:30 PM
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According to YOU. Do you not see that is the point! You believe that, but a lot of men see pursuing their interests which women don't like as more worthwhile than monkey dancing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 09:13 PM
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I haven't seen it. What I have seen is men tell women they can't justify doing something like riding the cock carousel by supposing someone else would do it as well. When men were in charge and had their way there was no cock or pussy carousel. Women demanded that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 09:12 PM
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I mean there's a point of diminishing returns. The amount of effort it takes to improve its disproportionate to whatever the benefit of the goal you hope to accomplish. Think of it like this, you can train like you're going to enter worlds strongest man if you want, but that takes a heavy toll on your body and unless you are really wanting to compete you can be very happy with a reasonable workout protocol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 09:11 PM
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People who are reasonably in shape with a job they enjoy. I think this might be a weird woman thing. Men are much more easily satisfied and much less neurotic. They don't get hysterical about not being the peak of perfection. It's odd because women in my life have been far less motivated than myself and far less likely to take any responsibility for any negative trait or situation than are the men. I think this is another rules for thee and not for me
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 06:09 PM
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To please yourself? The premise is that you are already pleased with yourself Because we as humans tend to want to be better people instead of just giving up? Better according to whom? You can improve at what you like and are good at, The premise is that you're already happy with where you're at. and you can also improve morally, The premise is you're happy with your morality. you don't have to improve at things that are just random. Yes, only the things that women approve of. If you think you a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 05:19 PM
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Why improve if you're happy? To please others? That's not self improvement in a technical way. If someone wants me to learn to play golf and I don't like golf it isn't self improvement in my opinion to play golf I don't enjoy for others approval. If you base what is improvement off of others opinions it's not self improvement it's only an improvement for those who approve of the changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 04:57 PM
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Most men are petty happy with the way they are. It's women that are eternally displeased with their equals. Men don't feel like all that work to attract delusional women is self improvement because they are happy with who they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 04:28 PM
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No man pretends that. Show me an example
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 02:53 PM
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And I've just pointed out, other factors can influence birth rate as well, this doesn't indicate that it's impossible that sexual liberation can have an effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 02:33 PM
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Example?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 02:32 PM
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Because women lie about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 01:31 PM
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Women view anything short of worship as hate
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 01:29 PM
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Where is your source that the two are unrelated? Just because other factors can influence the birth rate doesn't mean sexual liberation doesn't or can't
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 01:22 PM
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You're saying I'm discrediting the survey. I didn't. The survey doesn't purport itself to be fact. The survey is a survey. YOU are the one saying we must treat the survey as if it is God's gospel. I'm disagreeing with that interpretation of the survey. It wasn't meant to say definitively that what was reported was true. I never said all surveys are false either. I was pointing out that because we know people lie, we must assume some people lied. Therefore we cannot submit any survey info as fact…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 10:12 PM
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Relating to one survey of a subject where women are shamed for having high N counts. If you could find a stat pertaining to sexual assault, that would be another matter entirely. Goalposts moved. You asked for evidence they lied on anonymous surveys. I provided the evidence and now you say it's not enough. Typical. Women are people. And people lie. That's reality. Burden of proof is on you fella. And I've provided proof for my claim. You have yet to provide any proof women are truthful or even m…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 09:01 PM
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A not zero amount. Just like some think catcalling would be illegal
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 07:06 PM
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Then why are you stating things you can't prove as fact? I'm not making claims that require evidence. People lie is a known fact to every rational human being. Nope, not suggesting that. I'm aware that false rape reports are a thing. And yet i have to prove to you people lie? See you're just trying to waste my time by asking for sources when you and i know the reality. You just admitted it. Don't source troll. But until there's evidence that it's a widespread phenomena, and something that women …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 07:04 PM
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There's a difference between a survey and a study. Surveys can be useful but on controversial topics like this can't be explicitly trusted What evidence would you accept to prove people lie since apparently you believe everyone is 100% truthful?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 06:57 PM
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Touching someone in a manner they perceive as threatening is considered violence by many.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 06:55 PM
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So like a hug
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 06:47 PM
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You're honestly being serious here? I have to prove to you that people lie? A fact that has been known since the dawn of mankind?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 06:43 PM
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Fear response in normal humans is fight or flight. Evidence to support your claim please. How could i possibly get that evidence? Why are you asking me to find evidence for things that evidence could not reasonably exist? Are you suggesting we should assume every claimed rape as truth despite every crime having a false accusation rate? No other crime ever do we assume guilt before innocence. No it's not, not for beyond all reasonable doubt. "She liked rough sex" is a very commonly used defense. …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 06:40 PM
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I wouldn't think most women would not struggle even a bit during a supposed rape. It's almost as if they just had sex and then decided it was rape. Just a little skin under a fingernail is all it takes. Also lmfao at asking me for proof they are lying. They didn't report their rapists to the cops in a timely manner while evidence still existed. They aren't going to admit they were lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 06:32 PM
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Yes they are lying. Mugging doesn't usually leave behind DNA evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 06:27 PM
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Sure. Good on ya. The difference though is the rate of people who claim they were mugged isn't significantly different than the rate of people who report to police. The thing is with mugging they usually don't leave behind DNA evidence so it can be hard to find the guys That's not a problem with rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 06:21 PM
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It's the only possible reliable metric. The only way we can know it happened is to have evidence. The rate isn't low, the amount of people claiming shit without any evidence is high.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 06:19 PM
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Oh fucking please. The only reliable metric is convictions and the rate is ridiculously lower than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 06:12 PM
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This exact logic is what racists use to justify hating other races
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 06:10 PM
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Very cute
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 06:07 PM
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By the metric that the total amount is small to begin with. You have a better chance of getting in a car accident
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 06:07 PM
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What rate would not be alarming
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 06:00 PM
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No be mad at people who blame you for the actions of others because you were born with a dick and they happened to be as well
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 06:00 PM
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33-50% of total rapes is very very small
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 05:59 PM
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Not allowing 30% of men to vote wouldn't turn out well either
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 05:56 PM
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Unless you're a total sleeze that's probably not a huge sample size and men can and do fake orgasms. I've faked one with a condom on just to end the misery. Surely you weren't verifying the presence of ejaculate in the condoms
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 05:37 PM
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I've never met a man who said that condoms were just a slight downgrade.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 05:25 PM
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It's an assumption about the sensations of an organ you don't have paired with a sleeve of latex you don't have the capacity to use.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 05:17 PM
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I don't think any of them specified that it was only slightly worse, that's an assumption you created.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 05:10 PM
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I just said I can use it just that it's a terrible experience and I can't orgasm. Seems it's not very abnormal several other men here are saying they hate condoms as well
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 04:57 PM
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It's honestly not a lie. Sex with a condom is the least enjoyable sexual experience I've ever been a part of. Slightly worse than the worse hand job I've gotten and as s side note I've never reached climax from hand jobs or condom sex. But very easily from bjs anal or vaginal
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 04:50 PM
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Try completely shit. You don't have a dick. It's not slightly worse its slightly worse than poorly executed hand job.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 04:42 PM
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As would men
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 04:08 PM
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Wearing a condom is worse
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 04:01 PM
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I think they want more, like if they lose their looks or job they won't get dumped
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 06:37 PM
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Men wanting women for their bodies is much less dehumanizing than wanting men for their job or status. A man could lose his job or status tomorrow, and he's still the same man, women are just no longer attracted to him. But you can't lose your body, until some potential day where you can slop a brain into a robot or something your body is like half of who you are. You have the pilot (brain) and the plane (body) you can't say you're just you're brain because a living brain in a jar on a shelf isn…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 03:35 PM
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You seem to really dislike your father
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 06:43 AM
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Yeah but then they aren't following the rule that is supposedly very important for success
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 06:42 AM
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The thing I don't get about this kind of advice is, they say to be friends with someone who inspires you, but that would mean they are in a better position than you, and you don't inspire them
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 02:21 AM
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I think it comes from the idea that if you always get what you want that becomes an expectation, you don't value any given thing or relationship as much because you know if something happened you could get a new one. Look at the way women end the vast majority of relationships. This is because they know they could have a new dick by the end of the night. Whereas if you don't get what you want all the time that becomes an expectation, so randomly getting something you do want like a gf is going t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 02:19 AM
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If it was completely different how was it related to my statement at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 06:03 PM
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What was I gaslighting about? I have maintained from the very beginning that my statement was accurate and conveyed my meaning. The evidence is that you understood me. You just think it could be worded better. Idgaf where you claim to work. It's entirely irrelevant. I don't need to phrase things in a way they pleases you if that offend you don't engage in a debate sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 06:00 PM
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Yeah we're on a fucking online forum, getting the point across is enough. I did, you understood my meaning. Be better.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 05:39 PM
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If I didn't convey my point correctly you wouldn't have understood what I was trying to say. You did, therefore I did. You just think it could be worded more clearly, and that's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 05:28 PM
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It's the same analysis worded differently. You're not going to gaslight me, honestly nice try though
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 05:19 PM
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Dimorphism IS variability and again it was just one example. I don't know how this is so hard for you to understand. Your revised statement is just mine but overly semantic. I have no idea why this is such a big deal to you
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 05:12 PM
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I don't think you understand what point you're even making anymore. The first one is disagreeing with my premise entirely. The second was presupposing my entire argument was based on height alone, ignoring my original statement and taking it out of context, just like you did!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 05:03 PM
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What two other women? The only other people responding were one that didn't believe there was differing height variation and another who didn't believe there was a difference in variation at all. We all simply stated that use-case was not apt. No, only you said that kiddo. Don't gaslight. I just looked over all my responses nobody shared your opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 04:52 PM
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Nobody agreed with you. Nobody but you was confused. Not a single person but you accused me of using height alone as proof of variability across all spectrums. It's a you thing
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 04:26 PM
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There was nothing incorrect it made perfect sense in context Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 04:10 PM
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Exactly. Semantic. You and they understood what I was saying, you just think I could say it in a way that would please you more
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 04:06 PM
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You seem to be the only one having issues understanding what I'm saying. It's likely a you thing since nobody else is complaining
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 03:31 PM
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No, thanks though, you're being needlessly semantic
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 03:19 PM
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That was in response to someone questioning whether there was truly a difference in variability in height. Context matters
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 03:15 PM
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It doesn't make sense to focus on something easily observed as an example of variability?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 03:12 PM
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Do you understand the definition of example? Because it does not seem like you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 03:06 PM
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I didn't say the reason there is more variation is because more men are over 6 feet that was an example of variation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 03:01 PM
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As you can see in your link men's variation is greater. I'm not sure what you think you're proving but your link agrees with me
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 02:54 PM
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In what way? I think you're just reaching for the least charitable interpretation of what I'm saying
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 02:53 PM
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I never said either of those things
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 02:50 PM
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For companionship financial stability social mobility status etc
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 02:45 PM
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I think your link is broken
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 02:42 PM
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So you can't logically explain why feelings are important, therefore they are not
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 02:41 PM
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This isn't about me or who I know though
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 02:36 PM
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Because there are more hobbies. This isn't a difficult concept. If there are 5 hobbies women have and 20 men have (example) then you're going to see more women doing the 20 things men do because there are more of them. Let's say there's 5 cheese pizzas and 20 pepperonis. More people are going to eat pepperoni because there is more of them. I said "similar" not identical. Do you honestly believe there is not more variability in height and weight in men?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 02:33 PM
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Doing something logically because it benefits you in some way isn't doing it just to do it. Doing things based off of a irrational feeling is doing it just to do it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 02:31 PM
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Why are you avoiding answering my questions
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 02:29 PM
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They are varied, just less so than men
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 02:26 PM
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Why would you say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 02:25 PM
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There are more hobbies that are considered masculine than there are that are considered feminine. It matters because it illustrates the lack if diversity. There are a similar number of short men and women. There are not a similar number of tall men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 02:25 PM
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I never said that and why would it be gross? Please answer the original question you said you'd answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 02:23 PM
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Oh wow reverting to your npc programming when faced with a question you don't like.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 02:17 PM
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Yes but there are more masculine hobbies to begin with. And women’s height range is around 5 to 6 feet tall whereas men's is around 5 to 7 feet tall.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 02:16 PM
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With your genitals now you go.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 02:15 PM
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Yes but what I'm saying is the gap between the women I'd never want to date again vs those I would is smaller than the same gap in women. I never said the experience of dating one woman is exactly the same experience as dating another I said that it is less variable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 02:15 PM
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You're saying men are not as variable but the metric you're using is your assessment of your attraction to them. That is not true variability. That's just your assessment of them. Yes humans have similarities. But the similarities in men are less than the similarities j women. When you date a human, a lot of the same stuff is going to happen as when you date another human, because we are all human. What I'm suggesting that you don't understand is even the small amount of variables you see in men…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 02:13 PM
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Ah so you can admit that you can do things out of logic. Very good first step. Now explain to me, logically, why feelings are important. And it can't be "because I like them"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 02:10 PM
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You need a source? There are much more males above 6 foot than there are females. How is that not obvious? It's not an opinion it's reality. There's much more men into motocross, snowboarding mma etc etc than there are women. This is incredibly obvious to anyone with eyes
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 02:10 PM
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I don't agree that there is enough variance between 2 random women. There are extremes in women to be sure, but they are less extreme than the differences in men. Take women from both ends of the spectrum and they will be much more similar than are men. It's crazy to me that you and a lot of other replies are so close, your admitting that women are much more homogenous but then you still insist men should be more picky because of some solipsistic inability to grasp what that truly means.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 02:06 PM
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You're not answering. Is everything you do in life only to feel good? Are your feelings reality or can you see that your feelings are a product of your biases and experiences?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 02:03 PM
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So to self improve, according to you, I need to falsely see women as more variable than they are? You're literally doing exactly what I said women do. Getting upset that you aren't a special snowflake of uniqueitude. Women aren't as variable as are men is the point. I didn't say there is no variations or there is only 1 type of woman, I said IF there's only 4 types of men, there's only one type of women. This was meant to illustrate to you how absurd it was to say there are only 4 types of men. …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 02:02 PM
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As usual you miss the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 01:58 PM
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Not as radically different as men though, that's the point
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 01:58 PM
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Do you only do things that make you feel good? Or are you a normal human that does things out of logic?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 01:58 PM
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Why are you a slave to your emotions? Is what you feel more important than reality?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 01:48 PM
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Who are you to define what is a real man and why is your criteria if they enjoy masculine women? As you just agreed, women are really not that different, even masculine women are the same as every other dame just with unappealing arrogance
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 01:47 PM
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Regardless of how many types of men there are, they are still more variable by every available metric. If there's 4 types of men that's still 3 more than women
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 01:44 PM
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I think I've found the reason for the discrepancy between men and women and how they approach dating. Women scream and wail that men aren't as selective as women are. It's a fact they absolutely despise, presupposing as they always do that their methods are correct and men's are incorrect by default. But I've come to the realization after much pondering that the reality is woman simply are more homogeneous than are men. Any random woman will be much much MUCH more similar to any other woman than…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 01:31 PM
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Why would it lead to being miserable and why are you portraying yourself as having no agency over what you feel, further why are feelings important in the first place? When you feel like someone has wronged you is it factual that they have or is it a product of your own machinations
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 01:11 PM
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Then I guess the world isn't so bad
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 02:06 AM
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Obviously we are talking about physical threats
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 12:27 AM
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Dude I already pointed out that I don't think he's suicidal. The point I was making is that there's a logical disconnect between saying you don't want to have kids BECAUSE the world is bad and humans have been here long enough (his argument) and not being suicidal.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 11:25 PM
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If you think the world is so bad you shouldn't bring kids into it, yet you're not in a place where you feel the world is so bad you yourself shouldn't be in it, you're not being honest with yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 10:38 PM
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But women only aren't a threat to men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 10:17 PM
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Men value women but women don't value men. Men alone valuing men still wouldn't add up to equal
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 10:03 PM
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No it's because women have a strong in group bias
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 10:02 PM
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Who said men shouldn't face consequences? Honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 09:59 PM
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I was making the point that he's not. That's the point. That it's not as bad as he's making it out to be and he's using a cop out argument
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 09:06 PM
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Every single person who talks a big game should walk the walk if they want to talk the talk
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 08:29 PM
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So why are you still here?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 08:11 PM
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I didn't say it was or wasn't moral. I'm saying I didn't make a moral assessment about it not that I agree it is moral
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 05:50 PM
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Who said or suggested staying single isn't moral? I made a very simple statement. Shaming works if you have morality. I didn't say what was or wasn't moral
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 05:46 PM
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I mean 65 is an exact number old is subjective
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 05:31 PM
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Yeah shaming works for people with morality. Demanding a 30 year old get with a 65 year old not only didn't happen but really has nothing to do with shaming
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 05:22 PM
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I simply said shaming works on people with morality not that your ridiculous hyperbole was justified Read what is being written please
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 05:13 PM
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Very convenient to women in denial
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 05:02 PM
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Shaming works on people who have morality
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 04:58 PM
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Women are symbols of how much status you have, not bringer of status. If a man has a hot wife the hot wife is proof of his high status, not something that gives him status.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 04:55 PM
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Less opportunities to cheat, they have less so they value it more. They think the woman they are with is the best they can do, simple human scarcity behavior. If you have ten coconuts you're less likely to care about any single individual coconut than if you had 1
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 03:10 PM
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How expensive is the hobby you like? Men used to be able to afford a house working at a gas station.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 04:16 AM
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Again, we can't know what amount. I get it's your personal experience but that's only one thing
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 01:12 AM
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Sure but again we can't know what amount are due to situations like that we know some amount is, but we don't know how much. It's kinda useless to speculate. All we can know is that 80% of the time the woman wanted it to end, regardless of why
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 12:42 AM
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If I'm hyperbolic in one direction you're most certainly hyperbolic in the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 12:39 AM
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This is kind of an odd argument because often times even when the person who made the character has a certain intention, the audience will give them an entirely different perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 11:53 PM
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He was one of those high value men I was talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 10:35 PM
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Exceptions don't disprove general rules
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 10:06 PM
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I mean, we can't know how many exactly aren't because the man wanted it, so we can't assume anything other than what we know, that the women wanted it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 09:57 PM
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Men don't care about those things but they don't actively try to stop women from doing them they just don't show interest
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 07:43 PM
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Because not all husbands were good guys? So you honestly think there were any sizeable portion of men who just disliked seeing their wife happy for no other reason than they just didn't like her to be happy? That's a cartoonish and juvenile way to present that situation. Very few people are sociopaths. And even if they were a good guy, I've encountered several men that refuse to belief that stereotypical women likes are actually personal and not an "all women" thing. And how is that relevant? An…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 07:36 PM
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You keep trying to make this about me, when I'm just presenting the only possible solution that doesn't require force
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 07:03 PM
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We are literally living that reality right now lmfao it's very funny how you'd like to present that as "dystopian" guess we are living in a dystopia
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 06:59 PM
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I have no idea what you mean but I'm not speaking on an individual level. The only solution to women's rampant sluttery is for society as a whole to disapprove and shun those who don't conform.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 06:51 PM
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We didn't have freedom of hobbies if our husband didn't like it. If you had made sure that a husband couldn't take that away if he wished to do so,... No rebellion. Uhh what? Give an example? Why would a husband not like something that made his wife happy? Marriage had immense power when women couldn't get decent jobs. Apex fallacy. And y'all only ever stood up for your own wives, which ment that happiness for a woman was mostly based on luck. You still got to choose who you married And how the …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 06:49 PM
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Can't have one without the other
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 06:44 PM
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They had freedom of hobbies what are you talking about? What do you mean the freedom to be happy? The only freedom that wasn't allowed women was the freedom to be sluts
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 06:40 PM
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Men listened to women about what they wanted, and that's men's fault? For having empathy and listening to women, they are the ones in the wrong and not the women making demands? That makes zero fucking sense. If men wanted to end marriage they would have done so not wait around for women to come up with the idea. Nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 06:39 PM
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Yeah they don't like it, just like women don't like men's romance fading. But women initiate 80% of divorces, 90% among the highly educated. So it's not the deal breaker for men that it is for women. And you're being very hyperbolic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 06:28 PM
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They have a drastically reduced chance at those outcomes. And yes, the average man would not mind it. Only women and high value men get all fomod out by marrying their high school sweetie and its because they get approached extremely often
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 06:26 PM
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The thing is, women ask "where are all the good men at" seem to have their age in common, they almost always are either near or above 30 declining sexual value and still sky high expectations. The men who say women are shit only have their dicks in common. In fact the most sexually successful men are the first to say things like "bitches ain't shit but hoes and tricks" because they've experience it. They've experienced women cheating on their husbands for them, the debauchery etc. If all men for…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 06:25 PM
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Or we go back to socially shaming sluts and socially encouraging marrying young so men can simp for their wives instead of random hoes on the internet. We already had the solution, women called it discrimination because they knew they could leverage their sexual advantage for more cash prizes and meaningless sex with hot men, and to do any less was allegedly so very awful for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 06:20 PM
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In what way? How would those subs disagree and even if they did why is that evidence of me being wrong and not just a niche subbreddit attracting people who are out of the norm?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 06:14 PM
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Never gonna happen because men's desire for women is the reason the human race exists. You remove that and say bye bye to the human race
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 06:14 PM
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Women aren't responsible for it, but they are responsible for taking advantage of it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 06:06 PM
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The lawyers role is to give advice and council. Your experience as a woman holds zero baring on men's experiences or realities
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 06:03 PM
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They only like high value men it's a subconscious assessment
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 06:00 PM
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Your OP basically directly contradicted what you're claiming now, but okay
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 05:05 PM
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I've never once seen a man say that. What I have seen is women telling men every instance of men having issues would be solved if they behaved like women. Suicide rate? Only because they don't support each other like women. Homelessness? Should have hugged your friends more Etc It's just a convenient way to not address the issues men face and lay the blame on men
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 04:44 PM
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So now you're completely arguing in bad faith. If you think it's important to comfort first obviously you think those who don't comfort first are doing something wrong. Or at the very least not doing something in the desired fashion
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 04:26 PM
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You have said yourself that women have better friendships because they are more open and comforting with their friends than are men, have you not? In my experience and observations, men assume women aren't solutions-oriented because men dismiss the first part of the process. So men are dismissing the first important step of the process in your opinion. This means you believe women are more efficient or superior at communicating. These are your words. If men tend to skip the comforting phase then…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 03:53 PM
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This is becoming very tiresome. I don't even understand your point anymore. Let me explain things to you. A man wants 50/50 custody, but he lives in a different school district. Now either his kid has to go to 2 separate schools or one parent gets custody. The mother wants full custody, that maximizes her spousal and child support. So he's not getting 50/50 because as you said BOTH parents must agree. So now he's getting weekends and if he wants more he'll have to go for full custody. His lawyer…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 03:37 PM
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Nah it's because they work their people near to death long work weeks poor living conditions high suicide rates etc all are having a large effect on libido. If every woman was getting pregnant there'd be no issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 03:13 PM
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I’m not saying women may deliver advice differently? Yeah I'm saying they do. I’m honing in on the possibility that men RECEIVE advice from women negatively no matter how “identical to a man” or “similar to his male friends” she presents it or how “sweet” she presents it. I’ve observed them react “emasculated” no matter what in various instances. Women community differently than men, can we agree on that or not? It seems like you agree when it comes to women communicating caring and nurturing in…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 03:12 PM
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Asians and Indians can't get laid in America and at least Asia is experiencing a population crisis right now
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 03:08 PM
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It's a chicken or the egg argument, but I think most men would suggest they are telling men to cheat without remorse because women are just trying to manipulate them anyways. Sort of if you can't beat em join em kinda thing
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 02:05 PM
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Yeah if it's just physical intimacy I agree but I think that's a rather reductive way to describe nurturing
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 01:55 PM
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Men like to cuddle with their gfs, but I don't see how that's really relevant if you're going to break down nurturing to just cuddling then I guess but they like to do that even when they aren't sad
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 01:52 PM
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It isn't just the greeks that drew muscular men that was just a simple example. The marvel superman types didn't exist because steroids didn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 01:42 PM
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If by various forms you mean companionship etc then I agree. Men seek understanding and advice more than they seek nurturing, at least mature adults not raised by borderline abusive mothers
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 01:40 PM
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Yes but if your lawyer held you it's in your best interest not to fight because it will get nasty, drive a larger wedge between him and his kids, and cost a lot of money for no gain, why would he do so? You're doing this odd talking out of both sides of your mouth thing where you're trying to claim that if men don't spend thousands of dollars and ruin any relationship he has left with his baby momma by dragging her to court over and over and trying to smear each other's names then he's a bad dad…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 01:39 PM
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If all else were equal, yes. Women simply deliver info in a very different way. Let me ask you this, why is it that you can and do readily acknowledge that women show support differently from men, but you can't seem to extend that thought process to the idea that women also deliver advice differently? It seems to me that you're very ready to admit women give sympathy differently because you believe they are doing so in a superior way, but you won't admit that they could deliver advice differentl…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 01:32 PM
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Women didn't paint with anywhere near the frequency as men for obvious reasons, they really weren't historically allowed to recieve that sort of education for most of history. You know that and so do I. That which is highest status is the most desirable not necessarily the most beautiful there's a significant difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 01:03 PM
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Aristocrats were just the ones with the money to pay for paintings.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 12:52 PM
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In the Victorian Era the aristocracy were more likely to be painted, and they were spoiled fucks
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 12:44 PM
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Well they didn't exactly have access to roids but Greeks are just one example, physical dominance has always been valued by women and therefore admired by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 12:34 PM
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I don't think there's any way to prove that. Look at old Greek statues and paintings, all muscular and fit men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 12:24 PM
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Women prefer muscular based on every study ever. Men admire muscular men because they get pussy
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 12:23 PM
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Lawyers give their clients the best legal advice they can, do you dispute that? It's common sense that a lawyer would give a man the advice to not fight for custody if the men had no chance of getting it. You're honestly suggesting every lawyer ever always tells their clients to fight for custody 100% of the time? That's honestly what you believe? Please actually answer in good faith
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 12:22 PM
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Women don't offer solutions exactly as a man would that's the point. You're starting from a false premise
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 12:17 PM
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So you deny that lawyers give advice and make bullshit statements that you claim you don't have to prove because you can't prove a negative.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 01:38 AM
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Yes you definitely can prove that people don't take their lawyers advice. Bottom line, if you can't prove it, it can be dismissed. You can't prove your claim, so why did you even bring it up? Please quote where lawyers are telling all these men not to pursue custody I've explained this a dozen times. Lawyers give their clients legal advice. If they don't think their client can get custody, they aren't going to advise them to fight for it. You don't need a source to prove lawyers do their job
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 01:25 AM
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Men should be comforted, not only by women but also by other men Why? But regardless they should find emotional support and comfort. Why do you believe men need this to the level women do? But these men should also not dismiss women wanting comfort over solutions. Obviously if they do so, they shouldn't label the women who are solution-minded as unfeminine and bitch about them. Men and women just communicate differently. The way women present solutions is to men, unfeminine and bitchy. Similarly…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 10:53 PM
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The times that doesn’t happen is when men don’t advocate for themselves/allow themselves to be walked all over/agree to custody that does not give them equal access And I keep asking you to prove this, you refuse. Your source about men who fight for custody get it is bias. It's a chicken vs egg argument. Do they get partial custody because they fought for it or did they only fight for it because their lawyer said it would be worthwhile. That's your task, to prove that the lawyers have zero influ…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 10:43 PM
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Zippo? You're mixing up your arguments. It started out as saying men get 50/50 custody when they try. Now you're behaving as though supervised visits is the topic And no, the courts have a proven bias towards mothers. There's no chance your average dad is going to get 50/50 unless the mom agrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 10:29 PM
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Where is this idea that men and women are exactly the same and that men would benefit exactly the same amount from behaving like women as women do? This is what I said. You respond asking how would men (me) benefit exactly the same amount from behaving like women (OP) This is how you responded. I didn't say how would, I said where is the idea coming from that men are just broken women and behaving like women would benefit men. I'm asking where the concept comes from. Even in your context, yes it…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 10:28 PM
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And now that I say I benefit as much, how much she benefits is called into question Because you're saying you benefited exactly as much dude lol. Also, maybe m for you and your friends. But me and mine are emotionally close to where we appreciate sympathy and solutions which ties into the point of my original comment that providing both is not hard Bro, I'm not saying men don't want sympathy I'm saying the way men give other men sympathy is not the way women give other women sympathy. I don't un…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 10:03 PM
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Not if they have zero chance to win. That's when a good lawyer would suggest not fighting because it causes issues in the family and wastes money.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 09:58 PM
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Women know how women like to communicate. Men know how men like to communicate. This isn't a case of well women like it so men just hate women, it's men and women communicate differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 09:57 PM
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Because women are bad at giving advice the way men do. It comes off as patronizing and rude
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 09:49 PM
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What? Women do it because they like to recieve that type of support. Men don't like that type of support so they only do it when they know that's what the other party wants
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 09:48 PM
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Given that men are taught to suppress their emotions and lean on women for emotional support, A lot of suppositions here. Men are taught to not be feminine. But they only need to be taught to not be feminine because of societies continuing feminization. The rise of single motherhood etc is creating feminine men, but this is because they are taught masculinity is evil. I don't think men are leaning on women for emotional support in any disproportionate way, it's not like gay men single out women …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 09:45 PM
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Yeah that's exactly what I said? Men will do it when they know that's what people want because it's something they know how to do, they just don't see it as something worthwhile
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 09:41 PM
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How would you know how much she feels she benefitted? Men aren't broken women anymore than women are broken men. Men benefit more from direct advice or literally someone to just listen and not coddle them. Women want sympathy Men want understanding and solutions.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 09:40 PM
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Bad lawyers do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 09:36 PM
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Well yes, as I said, it's not something they don't know how to do, it's that it's useless to them. That isn't to say they won't do it when they know that's what others want.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 09:35 PM
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The way men come off as rude or clunky when they try and comfort women, women come off as rude when they offer solutions. It's not that men prefer comfort it's that this is what women are better at.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 09:34 PM
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Women get comfort left right and center from anyone and everyone. They are fucking drunk with it. Men would like comfort from one woman, their spouse, and women are disgusted to have to provide it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 09:30 PM
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They aren't good at emotional comfort the way that women do it, but that doesn't mean they can't or don't do it. Women have a certain way they like to be comforted which is extremely counterintuitive and illogical. The way men comfort each other seems equally counterintuitive to women despite being very logical objectively
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 09:29 PM
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Where is this idea that men and women are exactly the same and that men would benefit exactly the same amount from behaving like women as women do?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 09:26 PM
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Men don't benefit from nurturing once they become adults. It's not something they don't know how to do or whatever it's as useless to them as tampons, and you wouldn't suggest men don't use tampons because they just don't get it, they don't use them because they have no use for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 09:26 PM
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Yes so you have to prove that these men aren't fighting for custody despite being told they would likely win custody. All I'm saying is the ones that fought for custody got told they had a good chance. This is common sense. And you're saying that many men are told they have a good chance and choose not to. So I'm asking for proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 09:24 PM
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What one person can achieve isn't necessarily realistic for another person to achieve, that's what makes it realistic
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 09:22 PM
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You feeling too fat isn't a product of men enforcing beauty standards
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 09:21 PM
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Women don't care about men the way men care about women. Bitching will not improve men's situations because women literally don't care if a man shrivels and dies unless he's chad. That's literally what they want actually, they'll openly say it. Keep in mind that the ultra ripped physique that has popularized in modern times is a product of the male gaze What are you talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 09:19 PM
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Women want chad. They do this to compete with other women for the hottest of hot men they don't feel pressured to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 09:16 PM
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No it doesn't. The job of a lawyer is to give legal advice and council to their clients. Do you dispute that? So family court lawyers will advise their clients, yes or no? The answer is obviously yes. And that's all I'm saying. That the men who fight for custody are advised by their lawyers that it's in their interest to do so. That's not a claim that needs proving. That's the job of a lawyer. Your claim that men often ignore a lawyer saying they have a good chance to get custody needs evidence.…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 06:30 PM
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Then the lack of genetic diversity will quickly become an issue
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 05:29 PM
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It doesn't require evidence to suggest that lawyers tell their clients not to fight court cases they can't win, that's literally their job. Your claim however, that it is common their lawyers advise them they can win and they still refuse to fight, does require supporting evidence. Anecdotes are meaningless. I could tell you I have way more experience in child court than you and then where would we be?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 05:06 PM
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You can prove that men are told they could fight for custody and don't, and if you can't what is the point of you making the claim if you're just going to fall back on saying it's impossible to prove?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 04:52 PM
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I'd say the overwhelming majority of women. So it's a safe bet whatever woman you're interacting with will have this attitude. Ask the daily thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 01:52 PM
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Really? Where is the proof of this? The courts are bias towards the mother. You'd need to have some reliable dirt on the mother or be a significantly better parent and the primary parent who spends the majority of time with them to sway the judge. Lawyers will only advise you to fight for 50/50 custody if you meet that criteria. Lawyers don't like to lose, they won't suggest you fight unless they think you have a great chance at getting custody. So your stat that most men who fight get custody s…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 01:51 PM
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You're being very odd. Nobody said you could just use what women generally behave as in the forming of a relationship. Women generally don't like x and you can use women's general behavior as a template to form a relationship are two entirely separate topics. Of course there will be some level of personalization. That doesn't change what is generally true though. The thing that's not lining up with what you're saying is there is genealogy likes and dislikes. Generally speaking women don't like t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 01:27 PM
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Forming a relationship isn't the topic
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 01:13 PM
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We are speaking generally I'm saying this is what is generally happening this argument from an individual level only serves to obscure the general reality of the situation
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 01:04 PM
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I think you're playing fast and loose with what is considered gaslighting. Disagreeing on what was said or more likely what was meant by saying something COULD be gaslighting or a simple misunderstanding. The fact that you leap to assuming that he's intentionally and maliciously trying to make the woman feel like she is crazy is just a clear example of how you're bias against men. You don't see your friends as bias? That in and of itself is a bias and every human on earth is bias so to say they …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 01:03 PM
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Women always say they do not like that attitude and want men to just listen and empathize rather than view every instance of dissatisfaction as an issue to be solved. I guess they only want to recieve that kind of empathy not give it. Silly me for thinking women would be consistent
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 12:58 PM
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But confidently speaking about your insecurities is still revealing you have insecurity which women don't like
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 12:02 PM
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It's a well studied paradigm that women want to date up, in terms of status attractiveness etc. The fact that women are more and more deciding to be single instead of being with a good man in favor of pining for a perfect man, even when they themselves aren't perfect, is an example of standards being too high
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 04:11 AM
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Men who try for shared custody do so on the advice of their lawyer because the lawyer thinks it is likely they can win it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 03:49 AM
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That's your sexuality, not your standards. There's a huge difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 01:28 AM
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You are your heart.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 10:52 PM
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Why do you think so many men are convinced their sex drive is overwhelming and must be priority for good health alone while assuming most women have little to none at all? That's not the claim at all, it's an obvious strawman. What is being said is if the majority of the population of men is going sexless there will be unrest. I'm not really sure what you mean by a priority for good health but yes a healthy sex life is a priority for any adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 06:26 PM
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Exactly. They watched some romantic comedy set in medieval times and think they are history experts. I don't understand why they would assume that these films are accurate and depict the average relationships from back then
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 08:01 PM
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It has nothing to do with force. Do men force themselves to not attack those with more resources as they would in nature? No, they have shut down that instinct so often that it's not even a consideration for most men. Women have that ability too. They simply don't want to use it. They enjoy behaving like animals while men are expected to be civilized. In fact the only way women can truly fully indulge in their most prized primitive behavior. In nature the strongest man would simply take the woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 07:58 PM
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In the past, men did not expect women to be attracted to them, dry sex in the dark bedroom was the norm. Women did not expect men to give a fuck about their emotional wellbeing, formal interactions with your spouse were the norm. A whole lot of suppositions without any substance to back it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 05:51 PM
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At some point we have to decide whether we expect people to be civilized, aka better than their instincts or we expect people to behave like animals. If people are not expected to be better than their instincts rape murder theft etc are all perfectly fine. Good even. Just listening to the old monkey brain like nature intended. If people are expected to be better than their instincts, which men alone are, why should women not be held to the standard? Why is it men have to be better than their ins…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 05:50 PM
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You witnessed their men gaslighting them. Please provide an example Why do you believe everything they say if you realize they are bias
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 04:21 PM
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Chicken and egg though. Is it video games that make them bad at seduction or is it people without much success with women play video games? It's just another form of media
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 04:13 PM
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You haven't proven that or the other statement that there's zero difference in choice and when looking at items in a group vs individually. Don't make claims you can't prove
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 04:10 PM
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What is this never ending crusade women have against video games? How is watching Netflix and scrolling through Facebook Instagram any better
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 03:09 PM
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Lmfao so that's proof of your claim that there's zero difference between choosing something from a group of pictures vs something pictured alone? I didn't ask for evidence that a product would ever be featured alone on a screen I'm asking how it effects decision making and choice paralysis. But you knew that, this is obviously you trying to dodge proving your statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 03:07 PM
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These women SAY they've been burned by man babies. Do you take everyone at their word? Do you not understand what bias is? Do you think they are going to come out and say "I'm a neurotic bitch who is never satisfied and I cheated on him because of it"? Or are you an adult who can realize how people like to rationalize and place blame on others? And this wasn't just about clendliness there was a variety of abuse gaslighting manipulation that you're claiming is super common based on your bias frie…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 11:47 AM
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Despite much precedent showing that immigration supports infrastructure. That's an entirely different point? “Our culture (that’s a mix of immigrant culture) is at risk!” is post-hoc rationale. It's a mix of immigrants conforming to the laws and culture of the land because they are the minority. Cmon man obvious thing is very obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 11:38 AM
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That's like saying I wish I didn't have cancer and you saying enjoy it for what it is
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 11:36 AM
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The issue isn't an equal issue. Women are causing the issue. The only way to get women to alter their criteria is to take away daddy government safety net
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 04:44 PM
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Birth control is awful both for the woman and society. Why can't we tax single women?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 04:26 PM
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No more welfare no more child support for women, a single women tax, affirmative action for men only no birth control no abortion no more no fault divorce Make these changes and women would change their behavior very fast. No more safety net for their whoring around
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 04:12 PM
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Women are more neurotic than men. Men don't have as much fear or caution.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 03:52 PM
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Well ask any doctor I'm not making things up here it's literally one of the symptoms of sexual dysfunction.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 03:49 PM
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And since the boy cried wolf that means wolves will never be a problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 03:41 PM
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Yes society needs replacement levels to thrive at least. If you want to maintain the culture that means the people who created or maintain the values of that culture must the ones breeding or they will be outbred by immigrants and the culture looks a lot more like the place the immigrants come from than what it looked like before. How you want to boil that down to racism is nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 03:40 PM
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Well yes obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 02:29 PM
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Well you can't have the man's role, thems the breaks kid. You have an unfounded phobia of pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 02:22 PM
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Because a man takes control and makes it happen. He doesn't just lay there and expect you to do it for him. That is the real reason for the orgasm gap. Can women not insist on positions they like? Rub their clit or use toys if they are so broken there is no other choice? Of course they can. Will they? Of course they won't, that would mean they can't blame men for everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 01:49 PM
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Every woman on here "of course it's wrong lol" Over a third of women in real life? Admit to having done exactly this
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 01:47 PM
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Half or more relationships are they are acting as a man child you have always to look after , they do not respect you, are manipulative, gaslight you, making you feel depressed at this point no woman want to have sex with a man if he is not making her happy. Really? No. This is pure victim porn and an attempt to make others responsible for your happiness. He doesn't "make" you happy? Why aren't you just happy to begin with? So it doesn’t matter if you are attractive as long as the relationship i…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 01:43 PM
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That's preposterous.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 01:11 PM
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Find a guy who doesn't want kids
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 12:22 PM
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Nah men would be fine lmfao they aren't as obsessed with orgasms. I did a poll here and only one male user claimed they'd be upset about sex without orgasms
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 12:21 PM
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How common do you believe the ridiculous scenario you just concocted is?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 03:07 AM
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Or maybe women could put down social media vibrators and dating apps and be women men wanted to be better for.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 02:50 AM
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If orgasms are so importance to women that they'd rather masturbate id suggest they need a wake up call. Preferring to masturbate instead of have sex with someone you find attractive is a sign of sexual dysfunction
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 02:50 AM
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Wtf come on men
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 02:20 AM
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Are you sincerely suggesting that women's issues don't get far and above more funding from men than the opposite?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 04:51 PM
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Again a very small amount of both genders volunteer at all. Even if women volunteer more it's still a tiny amount
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 03:46 PM
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When did I say I hadn't and why are you suddenly trying to make this personal instead of general? Is the lack of seeing women generally care about men the way men do women really something that is a failing on my part
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 03:25 PM
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You mean doing their jobs? The vast majority of men and women don't volunteer
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 03:14 PM
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No obviously they don't care at all. They can't even imagine caring about those men. Where are all the women outraged by the amount of homeless men? We don't see that. We see feminists fight to shut down men's only shelters for homeless and victims of domestic violence. Where are all the women outraged by the suicide rate among men? They don't exist, and anytime its brought up women just try and force about how the only reason male suicide rate is higher is men are more selfish and kill themselv…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 03:08 PM
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I work in the health field. The complications of pregnancy are not “minuscule”. So now your just talking about any and all complications and not just death, goalposts moved right? One of the first things you learn when you work in a hospital is way more people die with the technology we have than you’d think. I used to believe pregnancy risk was minuscule too. Until I’ve seen people die. You seeing someone do something doesn't prove the risk is higher than it statistically is though? You know th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 03:02 PM
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I think we're missing each other here. Even if he's doing that, which I disagree he is, wouldn't the proper response be "my value is more than monetary" and not defacto agreeing that your value is monetary by trying to find the guy who spends the most money on you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 02:54 PM
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I've been wondering lately where this myth comes from that as a woman if you didn't marry, you'd be left to die in the streets. I've asked several times for sources from people who make this claim about the conservative patriarchal past of America, I've asked for sources that widows were left to die, that sluts were purposely starved. They just "lol" and say shit like "it's common knowledge" And after tossing it around in my head for a long time, I think I found the answer. Women are solipsistic…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 02:49 PM
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If you're not here to debate your on the wrong sub. I don't get how you're trying to make it seem like it's unreasonable of me to want you to debate on a sub dedicated to debating
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 02:41 PM
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I go out of my way to not try and be insulting Yes I'll reject things I don't see as true when women talk about inequality you know what it always boils down to? "I just want to marry who I want" Except you always could. Women weren't forced to marry. Men still had to ask and women had to say yes. So what was the issue? The hot, good girls were getting all the hot good men, and the average woman had to settle for her icky looksmatch. This issue was never about men forcing anything, it was about …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 02:29 PM
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No. Nature is sexist. I will carry that man’s child, Is it not your child? and possibly die doing so. The possibility is miniscule. Virtually nonexistent in modern countries. Risk him losing attraction to my post pregnancy body. ? I don't see what you mean. Risk him leaving me and his kid high and dry. No daddy government will make him pay. When it comes to making children, I take ALL the risk. And he can't change that. Why is it your job to punish him or expect him to pay more because you were …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 02:20 PM
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Patriarchal society was equal. There was zero inequality. Men had to curb their lesser instincts and so did women. Now only men are expected to curb their lesser instincts. Society can't function with only one sex expecting to be civilized. Men can't act on their instincts to fight and kill for resources, women can't act on their hypergamous instincts. That's equality. That's a sacrifice of behavior for both sexes. Men have physical leverage, women have sexual leverage. Men's leverage has been m…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 02:15 PM
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It's not that they would be happy if things were unequal towards women, it is their opinion that things are currently unequal towards men and the only way to balance the scales is to make things less ideal for women. Did you not read this part? And what ways do you think things are still unequal to women enough to warrant further shoving men under the bus?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 02:05 PM
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Ah I thought you might have been saying I missed some point thanks for clarifying
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 02:04 PM
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Women want to know that a man is willing to invest in her, even if he’s unsure that she will date him. Why? That makes zero sense. Splitting the bill means you don’t want to date me long term, quite frankly. In what universe does treating the sex that cried that they were the victims of inequality as...GASP!!? Equals, somehow translate to them not wanting to date you, somebody they've only just gone on one date with, long term. How are they supposed to know whether they want to date you long ter…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 02:03 PM
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I'm not sure what you mean. We have skewed society so it's not equal to men. To balance this, it's going to take some steps that make women feel like things are being unequal to them, something they aren't used to after being pampered and catered to their entire lives. I don't see how that's inconsistent or surprising.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 01:59 PM
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Why do you want to be with a man if all he has to offer is money? Really telling on yourselves here. Women, if you don't like men and want a walking atm please be up front with men about this so they can rightfully walk away
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 01:52 PM
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I'm not sure whether you're agreeing or disagreeing
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 01:49 PM
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So women like to get priced like a piece of meat or a whore and can't fathom any value outside of monetary as relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 01:45 PM
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Your friends stories are bias have you not heard of the protagonist syndrome? And your experiences are also not only bias, but not a large enough sample size to be indicative of the whole. Think of it in terms of racism. You wouldn't meet a few assholes of a certain race and decide that means they are all assholes right? Well why are you using that exact same logic on men who don't want to be walking piggy banks? And how much effort a woman puts into her relationship is entirely her choice, it's…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 01:44 PM
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What man debates that this isn't happening? What debate do you think is being had? Why are you speaking about things on a personal level? No man has a problem with some random woman doing that, it's only when it's a majority that it becomes an issue. The strawman is that men seethe over a person doing what they want, in reality the only time men have an issue is when it's a sizeable portion of the population
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 01:35 PM
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When you've lived your whole life with privilege anything less feels like inequality. It's not that they would be happy if things were unequal towards women, it is their opinion that things are currently unequal towards men and the only way to balance the scales is to make things less ideal for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 01:31 PM
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Why is how much he spends on her somehow her value?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 01:25 PM
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Y
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 01:12 PM
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I think it’s a good strategy for weeding out cheapness and selfish dudes And why do you think men feel any differently? Men see women who want to be paid for as cheap and selfish just like you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 01:09 PM
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Yes but you're saying only those actively working on their life should be able to voice concerns but that doesn't make sense since much of what negatively effects people is not within their control. Further, I can care about issues that don't directly effect me. I don't understand why you would see someone who says they hate feminism and assume that they must have themselves have had an issue directly effect them. People can see issues that aren't effecting them, like children starving in third …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 08:11 PM
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i hate the complaining from people who are cowards that would never actually try to solve any problems or do anything productive but criticize behind a screen How does this not imply the only people who you think have an out to complain are those actively in the situation? Why are you so against admitting that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 07:44 PM
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Uhhh what?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 05:13 PM
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just tired of seeing the same “ukraine doesn’t care about equality and wahhhh the draft” from people who would never serve their country, type of posts So unless they serve their country and experience the inequality firsthand they need to stop complaining. I don't understand how you can't see this is exactly your argument
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 05:02 PM
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Which is why I'm asking you, oh lord of that which is moral, to share with me what age separation is okay and what isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 05:01 PM
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I have made that judgement. That which is legal is fine. You say that isn't the case. So please enlighten me
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 04:54 PM
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So you can't recognize inequality without experiencing it?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 04:48 PM
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Breathe in, push air through your larynx in a coordinated manner producing syllables consistent with th English language where he is in earshot, preferably while he is focusing on you
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 04:42 PM
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On online shopping you can also have each product alone on the screen that makes 0 difference Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 03:49 PM
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No you don't you have to swipe to get another picture you never see them side by side. When they are asked to rate men they are shown a picture, they rate that man, then they are shown another picture after that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 03:13 PM
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When you look at a picture of a guy and are asked to rate him you don't have other pictures beside that. Unlike in a store or shopping online, there you can see different products right next to each other and compare and contrast.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 03:07 PM
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The door was slippery?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 04:27 AM
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What are you talking about and how does that relate to what I said
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 05:40 PM
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We don't have better statistics. You can suppose that it isn't the case in real life but until we get better numbers these are the numbers we have. If I'm not mistaken it holds true to speed dating as well
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 04:50 PM
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We aren't talking about getting all men in a room at once though. That's the only way that logically would suggest that women saw an individual man based on the group as below average despite him being average
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 03:23 PM
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I mean it's human nature. Look at toddlers who dgaf about a toy until another kid picks it up
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 10:55 PM
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I immediately acknowledged that there was an element of economics as relates to dating I simply said that it could not explain away everything. That was my position from the beginning. Try calming down and actually result what's being written
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 10:48 PM
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I'm the one who said it wasn't a perfect comparison and asked you to prove it. You tried and failed
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 10:08 PM
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I didn't say can it be applied, I said I refuse to believe there is zero difference. Being able to loosely apply a concept is not the same as it being a 1 to perfect summarization. There's nuances in the dating world that cannot be explained by viewing it through an economic lense. Plus your links mostly deal with apps and their design. They are designed to function similarly to the economic principles they aren't saying that it is a perfect comparison just that it's an effective way to design a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 08:32 PM
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I'm not seeing what I asked for, but I think you know that
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 08:21 PM
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Economic textbooks state explicitly that any and all observations that are true of economics are true of dating? Please provide proof. I'm aware of the paradigm of supply and demand what I'm disagreeing with, again, is that this is a perfect proxy for dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 06:57 PM
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If I meant autonomous I would say they ARE autonomous and yes the two words are opposites if you aren't autonomous you are automated. And yes economics can be applied to dating, people's autonomy is part of economics Ah just because you say so huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 06:47 PM
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I don't see how that's relevant to the fact that women are fickle it's not some thing it is them
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 04:37 PM
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Tis a fickle thing? No. There is no nebulous thing. It's women. Women are fickle with the men they claim to love
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 02:50 PM
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I didn't interpret it that way at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 09:24 PM
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This seems to imply you can judge what the next man's level of effort would be from the previous experience
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 08:59 PM
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Just the statement alone doesn't indicate negative judgment based only on the words. It's only if you're looking to interpret it through a certain lense that it could appear that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 08:58 PM
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So you're suggesting somehow the resentment builds and transfers over to a man who had nothing to do with the problem in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 07:00 PM
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Nah dude I've had sex and not orgasmed plenty of times we were interrupted I was of the drinks I was tired and just didn't want to continue, I really can't believe that mine is that unique of an experience
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 06:27 PM
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Only women obsessed over orgasms. Men don't really care. I did a poll one time and every guy but one said they were fine with having sex without orgasm. Why do you think that is? I think it's because their orgasms are so incredibly intense they can't be satisfied without one like men. Sort of like rich people who can't enjoy McDonald's because they always eat steak
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 06:08 PM
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Nah that's a bias interpretation
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 06:02 PM
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And they are orders and leagues more intense. Probably evens out. Men get more smaller ones and women get less but larger ones
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 05:25 PM
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I've never seen any evidence that no woman ever orgasms from casual
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 04:39 PM
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Nah if they forced vasectemies on all men that would be controlling men. Not offering a procedure isn't controlling anyone. If no doctor is willing to give anyone a nose job, they haven't controlled you, you want to control them by forcing them to do a procedure they don't want to do. You'd have a better argument if you claimed banning abortions was controlling the people performing abortion procedures.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 04:38 PM
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What happened in between
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 04:31 PM
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Yeah the one that dares step out of line. The fact there's only one and they are universally hated by every woman on here point further illustrates the problem
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 04:25 PM
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Your anecdote is unprovable. It isn't useful because you can say anything. It's about as useful as me telling you that I as a man think hot girls are ugly. You wouldn't believe that, or at least you shouldn't
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 03:58 AM
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This isn't about you personally. Why is it every woman wants to argue general statements with anecdotes?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 03:39 AM
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They don't crush on the hunks because they are celebrities. They crush on them for their looks and bodies
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 03:15 AM
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Celebrities.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 03:00 AM
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And yet women drool over very fit men in Hollywood.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 02:52 AM
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Yes they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 02:25 AM
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Orgasms aren't created equal every piece of info we have seems to suggest women's orgasms are more intense therefore 1 to 1 orgasms isn't equal to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 12:33 AM
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So what? Men can avoid the scenario all together by not having sex, getting a vasectomy, using condoms etc… Women have those same options. Equality. It's not controlling anything to not offer a procedure.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 11:18 PM
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If women in real life were as obsessed with orgasms as the women on here they wouldn't ever hook up. But we see that's not the case
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 08:07 PM
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Wut
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 06:07 PM
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Please send me any link supporting the idea that all or even many were killed America was never the middle east
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 05:04 PM
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Sorry I meant they AREN'T fully automated. They still have some semblance of free will. You're assuming economics can be applied one to one to dating. I don't think it can and there's definitely no definitive evidence it can so you're extrapolating based on what you know, just like I did with the tinder study
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 04:55 PM
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Most men can't, so they don't love it. Even a lot of men who can don't enjoy watching women who could be good gfs or wives ride the carousel. It very disproportionately benefits women. The men who can't do it dislike it because they watch women they should be a good match for screwing dudes way out of her league until she gets old and withered and finally shows him some interest, then he has to pay full price for a used car as an analogy
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 04:53 PM
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Nah I don't buy it. If they thought the man was hot they would say so. Give women a little teensy bit of credit they are fully automated beings. Plus you're doing exactly what I'm doing that you said was wrong, speculating
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 04:34 PM
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Date and marry? Yes those numbers are different. Casual? No it's the same guys
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 04:31 PM
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But why would women care how many other women are on tinder? It is irrelevant to them unless they are gay
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 04:29 PM
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Yes exactly. It's a decision that effects men. They end up forcing men to pay child support for years. You not driving doesn't effect anyone. And not only one gender is allowed to drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 04:15 PM
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Except I'm not making a claim like that. I'm simply saying based off everything I know I estimate this. You're free to counter with your estimate. Just like if you had a fairy in your pocket I can't just claim you don't, with any certainties I can only say I don't believe that. I don't have evidence fairies don't exist so I can't definitely say they don't exist all I can say is I won't believe it till I see evidence And no. That's not how ratings work. You can't simply suggest that women would c…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 04:13 PM
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Ah so they couldn't sleep around yet they did
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 04:09 PM
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How could they have that option if women couldn't sleep around?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 04:03 PM
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What does incest have to do with this what are you talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 04:02 PM
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What does the gender ratio have to do with how women rate men? And you're spewing that my observations are wrong out of your ass with zero to back that up, I don't see how that's any better. If you had said that there's no evidence to support that is one thing, but to just claim I'm wrong because I don't have a peer reviewed thesis is nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 04:02 PM
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It's based on the tinder data where women found 80% of men below average. What are you basing your views on?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 03:54 PM
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Most men can't even take advantage of that culturally acceptable ability so it either is completely nonbeneficial or actively bad for the 80% of men women find to be below average
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 03:52 PM
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I mean I said I estimated you can provide your own estimates but this is based on the tinder stats where women said 80% of men were below average
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 03:49 PM
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And yet they do it with him. They like hooking up with men they find attractive as much as men do, they just find much less men attractive than the inverse
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 03:48 PM
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Did you see the rough estimate part?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 03:47 PM
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Men never had that freedom. They would have had to fuck women, how does it make sense to you that men had that freedom but women didn't, and yet men had to have sex with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 03:47 PM
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Because women like it. 80% of men struggle to get casual sex (rough estimate) but only 20% of women struggle to get it. That which benefits women, no matter how shallow, is vaunted and celebrated in modern culture. Women can screw men out of their league to date, and they like to do this. If they didn't applaud casual sex they'd have to deal with icky assortive mating and end up with...GASP!!?? Their looksmatch.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 03:25 PM
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Regardless this "rule" of paying for dates disproportionately benefits women which is why they support it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 03:22 PM
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10 to 1. Maybe more like 100 to 1
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 02:59 PM
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If you ask someone on a date, you gotta pay for it. Why? Because that's how women want it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 02:44 PM
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So only agree to coffee and pay your own way till you're sure if you're a woman. Oh women won't? Why not? They want the free food, to be pampered and to have a court jester monkey dance for them even men they don't like
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 02:00 PM
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Exactly. It's crazy how women will shriek they they aren't a monolith until they themselves feel like dating women are all the same
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 01:58 PM
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Because women are solipsistic. If they can't imagine thinking it without it being some sort of revenge fantasy then they can't comprehend that men are. Women cannot have a thought that isn't self centered. A man can simply be making an observation like women go for the top 20%, that's supported by statistics, and women will? Call him a virgin incel. Because they can't imagine caring about something like that unless it effects them, so they can't imagine men caring unless it effects them. It's pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 01:49 PM
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Bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 01:43 PM
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She didn't like him, and had him buy her dinner
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 05:02 AM
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Women see peacefulness as weakness. They want driven motivated dominant alpha men not peaceful betas
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 11:39 PM
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They want peace but men value it more highly than women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 11:31 PM
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Yes so we can't allow women abortions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 11:26 PM
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? Not looking for spiders would be improving
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 10:28 PM
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No, wait, that’s what the insecure Nice Guy I dated did to me. Therefore every single average man behaves that way?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 09:14 PM
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Why would you be dating someone you don't find physically appealing
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 09:08 PM
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Insecurity doesn't stem from nowhere and how can you feel secure with someone who you know has a good chance of cheating on you
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 09:07 PM
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I don't think that's a fair assumption to make, nor do I think you understandable sexuality if you think sex makes them have a females sexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 09:05 PM
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So average men can't be fun and funny? This is just the halo effect at this point
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 09:03 PM
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So you make the assumption that the hotter guy is getting more sex from his gf than the less hot guy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 09:02 PM
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The amount of men who are considered attractive is like 10% so yes a very small portion have the choices of women the vast majority don't. Yes people with less options are more clingy. But clingy vs cheating? You would pick cheating? And yes hot guys love Bomb too get passed thebarriers wary women put up
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 09:01 PM
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What would even bring you to suggest that was my point?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 08:58 PM
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So just say you'd rather be treated like shit by a spider than be with a loyal potato bug. Just be honest
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 08:57 PM
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And ? Nobody said cheating was the only possible harm but it is the harm of cheating that is being discussed
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 08:56 PM
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Don't play dumb with me. If a man wants to keep a baby and his lady doesn't can he keep it? No. If a woman wants to keep it and the man doesn't can he abort? No. How does that not cater to the woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 08:56 PM
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I have no idea how you think this makes sense A hot guy and an ugly guy both have a gf. They are both getting only what they get from their gf. So to suggest the hot guy is more loyal because he's getting more makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 08:54 PM
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It certainly is? Your implying that you have been hurt more by ugly guys than hot one. Okay but that is not a universal experience and can't be verified so it's meaningless to the conversation
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 08:53 PM
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Are special rights and laws catering to one sex good or bad yes or no
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 08:51 PM
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Your personal experiences aren't relevant and you can't assume any universal truth from your bias anecdotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 08:42 PM
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Ah so laws and special privileges that benefit one sex are good now, because women benefit?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 08:41 PM
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If men could have the procedure themselves they would, they can't. Sucks to suck for women I guess. But we can't make laws or privileges for one sex based on biology. Just because women have the womb doesn't mean they should be afforded more options than men. Laws based on gender differences are...oh what's the word I'm looking for.. ? Oh right, sexist. DUH! Women are the ones who screamed that at the top of their lungs when laws existed that favor men. Now that women are getting special privile…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 08:31 PM
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Hot guys love bomb all the time. It's not "gonna get cheated on anyways" it's get with the hot guy who is far more likely to cheat vs an average guy who is far less likely to cheat. Again, due to opportunity. Seems as if you're fine with being cheated on by a hot guy vs being with an average loyal guy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 08:28 PM
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Do women get to fuck with no consequences? Yes. They can abort, drop a kid off at the Firestation etc. So men getting those same options? Equality. You're just mad that men want the same options as women. You think only men should be held responsible
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 08:27 PM
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He wants women to stop looking under rocks where spiders have been known to hide and where spiders would likely hide
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 08:22 PM
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If every man is just as likely to cheat as any other, than those with the most opportunity will the most. Unless you're suggesting that men with prettier faces are more loyal for some unknown reason your argument makes no sense
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 08:21 PM
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What evidence do you have to suggest that being killed by an ugly man is more common than being cheated on by a hot man? Because the murder rate vs cheating rate is not in the favor of that opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 08:19 PM
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Assuredly the cheating would be unpleasant though? Or are you literally saying being cheated on by a hot guy is better than being with an average loyal guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 08:16 PM
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Men have less choices therefore less control
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 08:14 PM
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So now wanting equality is irresponsible?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 08:13 PM
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Ah yes that's why putin didn't invade any new territories while trump was in office and next to immediately invaded Ukraine once he left office. Totally makes sense to suggest trump we'd buddy buddy with putin. What reality do you live in?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 04:16 PM
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I don't see how they are supposed to go their own way but not mention why.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 03:11 PM
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Have you seen him manhandle putin when they shook hands? Dude was pretty alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 03:07 PM
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Exactly. It's always this strawman
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 03:04 PM
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Or option 4, women stop having unprotected sex if they don't want a baby
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 04:49 PM
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I mean if that's how you want to view it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 02:04 AM
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The majority. If not all, but some are better at ignoring that instinct to some level. Women are more shallow than men and their look requirements are completely unreasonable. It's incompatible with societal progress
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 12:33 AM
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what the fuck do below average men have that women should want to fuck them for? are they offering relationships? money? what are they better at? why should anyone settle for below average? Dude. I've already said there is no should. Should doesn't factor in here. I'm just observing what they do I'm not saying they should do anything everyone is compensating, so they should step tf up. i dont expect average men to wife me up when i’m acting manly, not taking care of myself, and being bare minimu…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 12:10 AM
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Tinder doesn't force you to be shallow, it might encourage it, but nobody is holding a gun to these womens heads and forcing them to swipe right on chad. And nobody is forcing them to rate all the men as below average. They just are because it is in their nature to do so
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 11:39 PM
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Why do you keep asking me that? Several times i have repeated that should is not a factor in this. It doesn't matter what they should do. There is no should.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 11:17 PM
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It is shallow to only like the hottest men. If you can't bring yourself to like a full package that doesn't come with top 10% looks then you're shallow. They don't look at anything as a whole package. They want best everything. That isn't considering the whole package because they don't say "well x isn't perfect but he's got y so it's fine" if x and y aren't both perfect she'll feel like she's settling and dead bedroom
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 11:09 PM
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I didn't say they can't or shouldn't, I said they do. I never said there was any perfect indicator. I'm simply pointing out that they are more shallow than men. That's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 11:02 PM
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What is the use in speculating what men would do? And it doesn't really matter how they should decide. We know how they do decide. In the most shallow possible way, to the exclusion of everyone but the very hottest guys, who according to the study they still rate as below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 10:58 PM
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That's more about the child than the mother
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 10:49 PM
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You could say they would but until they do that's just a supposition. Women do. And it just shows how much women value looks. If they didn't value looks they wouldn't be they picky even if given the opportunity
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 10:47 PM
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You haven't seen the tinder study? Women value looks more than men, they just also value other things. It's not a zero sum game unfortunately its not like what they want has to equal 100% Women want looks in men more than men want looks in women they just also value other things
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 10:37 PM
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Men are not at all nearly as hyperfocused on hotness as women. Every study ever performed shows women are by far more shallow than men, and it isn't even close. So by keep society progressing you don't mean anything positive you simply meant more peeps? Then how would men's behavior be an issue
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 10:16 PM
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Likely yes, due to coincidence
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 10:01 PM
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Maybe you're a unicorn then but really what this boils down to is that women believe they should be the judges of what level of vulnerability is acceptable. They always say things like a little is okay but too much is bad. Well who decides what is too much? Women. Can you not see how utterly fucked that is? That women think they should decide what level of vulnerability a man should display?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 09:10 PM
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Again, we can safely assume SOME of the difference is due to what you mentioned but you can't assume all of it is. This isn't to say that it's impossible it all is due to ignorance, just that there's no proof so we can't assume.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 09:01 PM
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As a woman you wouldn't have seen this, you're not a man who has the gall to have emotional needs
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 08:53 PM
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You can't make that assumption. It is logical to suggest some of the difference is due to awareness but you can't just dismiss the entirety of the difference based on a supposition
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 08:49 PM
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Women do not want to see any weakness including doing therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 08:38 PM
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About as many as women in modern times in modern countries
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 08:33 PM
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Which is complete and utter nonsense even with all of your misleading stats the majority of women with children love their children.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 07:14 PM
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Why is harming people suddenly the criteria? Don't move goalposts. The original criteria was I’m saying men and women that are incapable of suppressing “biological urges” to keep up with societal progress, are on equal footing. So it's processes that keep society progressing. Women are regressing in terms of what is good for society. The hedonistic chasing off chad dick, the carousel which leads to single motherhood, low birth rates etc are all slowing or reversing society’s progression. They do…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 07:13 PM
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Women suppress zero of their biological urges only men are expected to be civilized.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 05:26 PM
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Nobody gives men children. Women have children for themselves. Men just happen to be a necessary part of that transaction
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 05:25 PM
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Women never fought like that it's not in their nature. Their nature is to fuck the guy that wins the fight which they still do. They won't fight because it's incompatible with their programming not because of some enlightened nature
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 04:52 PM
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Yes you are, in the form of food and free housing. And I've never heard of such a situation that didn't involve some level of him giving her money
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 04:40 PM
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I would assume because men are busier
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 02:19 AM
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It's not free if your partner is paying for everything
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 03:46 PM
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This isn't answering my question
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 05:18 AM
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This was also true before covid if I'm not mistaken
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 05:18 AM
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I think the best way I can answer this question is to ask one of my own. Who does most of the difficult, vital jobs in America?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 04:55 AM
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No, they don't. One third of men don't. 66% do, but that's not the "vast majority" it's only 16% more than half
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 04:52 AM
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You didn't answer his question
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 04:39 AM
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I mean it depends on how many there are. Few isolated pockets? Local threat. Nation wide? Existential
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 04:36 AM
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Well that's a pretty small sample size. Did you witness this supposed crappiness or was it just what they said
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 03:35 AM
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Yes IM saying that they aren't deserving of empathy but men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 03:12 AM
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Oh yes any amount of effort that's less than you suggest is neglect sound logic there. It's not that there could be easier children who are more chill, Nope. Not possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 03:11 AM
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I didn't say it wasn't common I just meant I wasn't referring to that
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 03:08 AM
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What am I supposed to be learning from your anecdotal point of view and why do you think I should be learning from you but not you learning from my point of view? Solipsism much?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 03:07 AM
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But when you only want the top guy not wanting to being with someone you're not attracted to isn't the same. You only want the hottest guys. That's not deserving of empathy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 03:07 AM
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Oh well yeah special needs is an entirely different situation
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 02:49 AM
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Really. Never had a break. 2 young children never napped or watched TV or ate or anything. They constantly ran amok?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 02:45 AM
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Oh wow your anecdote and mine conflict. It is objectively less work to stay around the house. He missed being active, he wasn't saying what he was doing was more difficult
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 02:42 AM
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Men are attracted to most women so the comparison falls flat
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 02:40 AM
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The average woman is more dynamic than the average man Absolutely fucking nonsense. Most women "dynamic" is going out and spending money the men make. They love Love LOVE to virtue signal though. So she'll pretend to start a new hobby every week. Start trying to jog once every three months. Start pilates and stop after two lessons even though he paid for more etc. And then she gets furious that her man doesn't support her time wasting activities instead of realizing the reason he doesn't is that…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 02:38 AM
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I have worked several very physically demanding jobs and also between jobs taken care of kids. If I could get the same income watching kids I'd do it no question. It's not even a difficult choice
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 02:18 AM
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You've never baby sat a young child before? Yes of course i have dude. I have a kid. My brother has 3 and i was defacto babysitter. Shit was easy as fuck. While also doing chores? A few dishes? Shit is work. Yes very very easy work. It takes alot of time and mental energy. Nah not really man. Your post is literally indicating how fucking Clueless you are to how much trouble young kids cause. Nah I've dealt with it. I've also worked a variety of trade jobs. Try working concrete and come back and …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 02:15 AM
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Bro. It's completely unreasonable to expect a person to wake up and be doing productive activities until the moment they fall asleep. I agree most men could be more active. But the idea they should only be active is just a recipe for misery. Yes women would find it attractive but men would be miserable. Also I think that men don't think playing video games is attractive, they think they should not have to spend every moment of every day doing something attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 02:06 AM
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A man should never be idle. Going to the gym. Going to play pick up basketball, going to a game with his friends. Working on a project, or learning a skill, fixing shit around the house etc should be his free time. Only women should relax? Fuck me that sounds miserable
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 01:49 AM
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Nobody said men didn't want to raise their own kids. But I'm working all day then doing half the work when he gets home is not really equal distribution. There's a lot of chances for breaks with young children. They nap. They need time (while supervised obviously) to just kind of hang out and learn on their own. A day with a small child contains very little actual work in comparison to a job where you have quotas and spend every second of the day striving to reach that goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 01:49 AM
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But if he goes to work then gives her a break when he gets home when does he get a break
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 01:39 AM
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Why not make being together a wonderful experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 01:25 AM
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So you assume you'd feel bad. Still not any objective harm
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 12:32 AM
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No it won't though. What harm?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 12:20 AM
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But we are talking about something that's not actively bad. A bed made of glass will actively harm you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 12:11 AM
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Yes I'd conveyer any woman I was somewhat attracted to as a potential partner. I think it's reversed for men. We don't need the presence of positive traits rather the lack of negative ones
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 05:45 PM
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Why do you think it is women love to present compatibility as something indescribable and unquantifiable? It seems like borderline religious magical thinking
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 05:31 PM
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Ah I must be attributing to you what op said sorry. I don't really understand what your argument is if that's not how you feel. Looking back the guy said you are just an average girl are you willing to date most average men and you said no. I think that's where the confusion stemmed from.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 05:07 PM
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This explanation conflicts with your point that average men don't improve women's lives. If they have to be above average for you to have the spark the spark is just a code words that describes shallow attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 04:55 PM
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I'm interpreting your words as best I can if you don't like the conclusions I'm reaching maybe you should honestly examine your words to be very sure they are getting whatever point you think you're making is in line with what you're thinking. I suspect you're not even really honestly sure about wish you mean. It seems like life improvement is just a nebulous concept that you feel encapsulates what you want but you can't really articulate what it would look like in reality because it's a feeling…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 04:40 PM
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Ah so really the only life improvement you seek is a hot partner that gives you tingles. In that case the whole improve my life bit is just a smokescreen so you don't get rightfully called out as being shallow
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 04:27 PM
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What is your sample size that led you to the conclusion that average guys make for borderline abusive boyfriends? Seems like an excuse to only go for chad
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 04:04 PM
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So is it that you need a spark or that he must improve your life? Seems like you are moving goalposts when you can't answer what you have to offer
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 03:59 PM
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So the guys she does want smv who use her and leave her are higher value to her than an average man who is plain looking but would treat her great
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 02:19 PM
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Yeah but that's more value than a guy who will stick and shift though? Isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 04:04 AM
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No you can't find that anywhere though? Many men will just dick you and dip
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 12:52 AM
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Then why have friends unless they give you money? Why speak to your parents if they aren't providing some value you can put a monetary amount on? Women seem to be like fucking crows, attracted to meaningless shiny shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 12:51 AM
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Women need cash prizes to be in love? Steady sex with a man you enjoy to be with, a partner in crime (figure of speech) someone who you can take on the world with. None of that means anything unless cash prizes apparently
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 12:50 AM
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That's exactly what people who want to be together value, being with each other. Why do women need cash prizes instead of just loyal commitment from a decent man
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 12:48 AM
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The man provides that exact same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 12:48 AM
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That it is antithetical BECAUSE of the reasons you stated
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 12:45 AM
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And I provided that example. They say casual sex is antithetical to their sexuality. Then they have casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 12:11 AM
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So you want an anecdote
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 09:48 PM
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Women want to be regarded as gods
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 07:10 PM
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To be fair they don't actually build the things themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 06:18 PM
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What created this theory? Seems awfully convenient
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 06:15 PM
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This is literally exactly what women want
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 06:10 PM
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Most people when speaking of looks are referring to faces
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 06:08 PM
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Does anyone have that study that said that women lied about n counts and the count raised when hooked up to a lie detector?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 03:06 PM
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There was a study on n count where women's score jumped when they were told they were hooked up to a lie detector
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 01:21 PM
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I don't believe that is accurate unless we have wildly different definitions of plenty
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 04:59 PM
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N counts are higher than ever. Less men getting laid. Women lying on surveys is proven so it is more than likely their n count is higher than the already record high they self report. This points to the carousel
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 03:20 PM
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I never said nobody regretted having children though? Just that generally speaking they don't. Women are unhappy at record rates now and it only makes sense miserable people will make miserable parents
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 03:09 PM
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Correlation causation fallacy. Plenty of hot introverts somehow manage to get spouses
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 02:56 PM
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Yes it's more stressful to be a mother than not to be. Shocker. Why is it you want this to mean women with kids are miserable? Why do you have such an unshakable want for this to be true despite it clearly not being
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 02:50 PM
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Single moms. Not married moms
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 02:10 PM
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Again, mom's less happy than dad's because women less happy than men. Shocker.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 12:29 PM
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Only that single parents were less happy than single people without kids and like, well duh. And the reasons they literally pull out of thin air to try to make the woman a victim makes this study less valid
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 03:38 AM
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The flaw in this study is it doesn't account for happiness before the child, that I can see. Women are just less happy than men in general. This translates to being less happy with children
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 03:35 AM
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You both are very strange then. I never suggested women would sleep with a man she never uttered a word to, so the fact she even suggested that and that is what you chose to take from my words despite me never saying that is pretty weird
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 10:01 PM
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Okay so women need to stop making blanket statements about female sexuality then don't they?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 07:48 PM
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The odds of succeeding are low, yes. But the temptation to do so is still there
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 06:58 PM
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Everything you’ve seen says most women, at least once, will have sex with a man without speaking to him? Is that seriously what you’re claiming? How could that be what I'm claiming or even a realistic circumstance to suggest for you or the other user. That's ridiculous. Of course words are exchanged. Do you think women follow men home from the club without having spoken to them, knock on the door, and still without having spoken to them let themselves in, strip down and what? Just gesture to the…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 06:51 PM
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The temptation to try to hit on them
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 06:03 PM
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Holy shit dude. How many times do I have to say often for you to stop accusing me of being absolute
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 05:49 PM
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So the only possible form of temptation is women throwing themselves at you before you speak or hit on them at all
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 05:39 PM
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You don't think the halo effect is real?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 05:32 PM
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What I'm suggesting is that your tempted not that you could do it. Like you see a woman you WOULD cheat with, at least in terms of attraction, every day. You don't pursue and hit on her. Her receptiveness or lack thereof isn't the relevant factor
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 05:09 PM
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Yeah obviously you think I'm saying that's the case? Read more closely
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 05:00 PM
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And that is again a very different explanation than what is often given. I've already given you a specific example.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 04:59 PM
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Words like vibe game dynamic etc are sufficiently vague that they can and are often used in reference to shallow preferences that women would rather gaslight men about than admit. This is what I said. Use the full sentence. You are saying women, in general, would rather gaslight. I'm saying often times that's true. Not all or most. Well... I thought you wanted to say something correct, but were using a wrong word. No when I say dictate that is exactly what I mean. But if you insist that you want…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 04:55 PM
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If casual sex is not part of women's sexuality, as they claim, then we should not be able to observe them doing so. If you want people to believe what you say, it needs to be reflected in your actions. It isn't about what I like or think women should do, it's about whether they themselves care at all about being consistent with what they say. They don't seem to care that their actions often don't match their behavior, so men don't believe what they say. If they would like for men to believe them…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 04:33 PM
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This isn't about what I like. It's about being objectively consistent with what they say
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 04:27 PM
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Why the generalization? Some women do that. Some men do that. No need to generali... oh never mind, generalizing is axiomatic to TRP, right? Nobody generalized I said it OFTEN was the case not always. I object to your use of "dictates", but I think you want to say something that's true. Well you'd be incorrect as that is a fine usage of the word.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 04:03 PM
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You say most women would not but everything I've seen says most women do, at least once. More often more but just less frequently than men. That's not an entirely different sexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 02:43 PM
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Yes women say they don't want casual sex, till they do. They don't find anyone attractive enough to want to bang, till they do. The discrepancies just mount and mount until men simply don't believe you anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 02:39 PM
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Yeah if anything it's worse. Women don't need to practice self control in relationships like men do because they simply don't find the majority of people attractive. Men must constantly refuse to give in to that urge because it is just that, constant. So I'd posit that like anything in life, doing it enough becomes habitual. So in that sense women don't have as much practice as men at not cheating when they actually desire to do so. Therefore logic would dictate they are actually worse at refusi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 02:33 PM
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Women: I only find 1 man I see a year attractive. Also women: why are men so focused on attractiveness? Because women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 02:22 PM
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It stems more from the contradictory behavior. If women were consistent in terms of their behavior and their stated sexuality men would not question it. But it's like seeing someone say they don't want to steal and yet you see them steal and then they say something like "oh well I only want to steal sometimes when the item is very attractive" Would you think in that situation she really doesn't like to steal even though when she really wants to she does, or would you think logically that she rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 02:21 PM
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I don't think it's that they don't believe in it persay it's that women very often obfuscate with words. Words like vibe game dynamic etc are sufficiently vague that they can and are often used in reference to shallow preferences that women would rather gaslight men about than admit. This isn't to say these things don't exist but halo effect dictates those who are very good looking will predictably be seen as having more game etc than men who are less attractive but behaving the same
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 02:14 PM
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Yeah I don't understand why they always pull this weird shit. Men and women both have disgusting outliers that do heinous shit but they LOVE to portray it like it's only men. I don't really understand why
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 05:45 AM
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Women get dicked by donkeys vegetables and old dudes. Am I doing this right? Men fake ROMANTIC intentions to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 05:03 AM
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unless they're 7 drinks in) And alcoholism is at an all time high. because women don't want sex with randos Yet when the alcohol they love so much flows they do Sex with randos does not meet any of our sexual, romantic, or emotional needs. A large part of women's sexuality is attention, being wanted, and attention. They get those. No orgasms, Less, not none. no seduction, Women complain all the time that men don't put as much effort into seduction as the relationship progresses. no emotional pla…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 04:57 AM
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Mostly the second part
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 04:12 AM
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Yeah I'm pretty perplexed she's telling people they need to educate themselves but thinks nobody knew sex made babies till 1875 I think she might just be trigger trolling
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 01:54 PM
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Something about thinking people knew sex led to kids before 1875 is mythology
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 12:37 PM
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Victim blaming
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 10:24 PM
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The leaving is what makes it a sucker deal
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 10:17 PM
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Modern women. I said how did modern women. You're bringing up ww1 lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 09:59 PM
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Mythology? What are you talking about? Critical thinking would lead you to the realization that people have known that sex leads to children forever
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 09:55 PM
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It doesn't matter what proportion of society they are if their wants are antithetical to society
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 09:41 PM
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Stop with this petty nonsense people knew for damn sure that sex led to children long before 1875 we bred animals and shit on purpose how could we have done that without knowing that sex produced children?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 09:24 PM
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What is good for the modern woman is not good for society
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 09:21 PM
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How did modern women work to achieve their independence
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 09:01 PM
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Someone who gives concrete helpful advice and encourages you to make plans and follow through with them? Sounds awful/s
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 06:33 PM
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Women can't say no? Why is the onus on men?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 06:33 PM
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Men can't be responsible women are the gatekeepers
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 04:19 PM
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You're only a hypocrit if all else is equal. It's not. Women have a much easier time getting casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 04:16 PM
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That still means two thirds of men are making more
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 04:14 PM
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My conclusion is that because women are sexually free now, how nature intended it to be, We don't behave in harmony with nature. If you think living in accordance with nature is so great why not go live in the woods. we're in a transition period to get rid of ugly people altogether. That's not how biology works plus ugly women are still tainting the gene pool. Because according to evolutionary rules, which people love talking about so much, only the fittest, most beautiful genes survive. Bit of …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 09:08 PM
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It is most certainly not logical in the sense that it is based on logic, but it is something you can deduce with logic
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 05:14 PM
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Nah it's women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 05:11 PM
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Well they could. But no they do not expect that, this is a huge exaggeration
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 02:55 AM
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Men and women's sexuality is different as women love to point out, until apparently it is convenient for women's arguments
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:56 PM
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You're focusing far too much on your particular situation. I'm asking why, when you hear that person say men marry women they don't like, do you assume the women are by default trying their 100% best to be likeable. Yet when you hear a woman complaining you don't assume the man is trying his best. As for the other bit, you ARE annoyed by his eating habits even if you believe you aren't actively showing it. That's the thing, a guy can be annoyed with you, like for the dip thing, but that doesn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:34 PM
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Why is it assume women are always giving 100% effort but not the same benefit of the doubt. So like to you means never getting annoyed at your partner or just not for the reasons you approve of? Seems like you're pretty annoyed at his food preferences does that mean you don't like him?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 05:48 PM
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I'm not asking for the dishes you'd rather be eating I'm saying we're you planning on going out for food? No it seems you were planning on cooking, you just didn't prefer what he wanted
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 05:45 PM
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Again the word like is ambiguous. Do I like my gf the same way I like my friends? No. What is the criteria for like? I find it hard to believe a man will be with someone he truly hates the sight of. But if lack of like is more like, he has me fun palling around with his friends that makes sense. There is a large difference between hates and doesn't like and like vs active dislike etc. And even then, why is she not concerned with being more likeable?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 05:34 PM
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It's only you cooking for him if it's only him eating imo. Like if you didn't cook dinner that night what were you planning on eating. But the lunch thing I agree with
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 05:23 PM
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This is like saying cheating isn't wrong because we go towards what attracts us.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 05:18 PM
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And what is this whole cook for him? Are you not eating as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 05:16 PM
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Sure but we aren't talking about you. What I'm trying to do is illustrate how women's feelings often don't align with reality. The fact that a woman who is taken out 3x a week can feel ignored is evidence that she will feel that way no matter what he does. So they can break up and she can take those unrealistic expectations and break another man's heart or she can grow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 05:14 PM
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Because I am one of those women every now and then. I know I'm not the problem. The fact that I didn't eat enough dip with my own fries 3 days ago was not legitimate reason for him to act annoyed with me, Ah so his feelings don't matter and are not real and yours are. Gotcha. and it's not something I should fret about changing And yet he should fret about changing the things you want him to change and you're confused as to why he's annoyed and doesn't? You don't offer him the same courtesy you e…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 05:13 PM
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I originally esponded to a comment specifically admitting how men will- in reality- marry women who they don't like. Like in what way? Overreaction can be a problem. But so can being ignored by one's spouse. But the issue isn't that they are factually ignored, it's that they feel ignored which is unfalsifiable. Women will talk about their needs all day long and nothing changes- yes I believe these women because I've been there. What they feel their needs are, but if they are met they will move g…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 05:05 PM
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Why are you wondering why these men find these women sitting but not telling these women to behave in a less annoying manner of they feel their husband is annoyed by them?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 04:56 PM
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That's the percentage of marriages, unmarried brekaups are even much more common. And still are mainly initiated by women. Women will straight up tell their partners "hey, I need more quality time, I don't feel like I'm appreciated and loved, I feel like you don't like me" in a million different ways. It gets addressed but never fixed, and I'm surprised you haven't heard this is a common theme among women talking about their breakups. Yes, but i interpret it differently. You believe that because…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 04:52 PM
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Everyone is annoyed by others at some point. Everyone. Your best friends will annoy you sometimes. Men seem to just have more perspective I mean I can suppose the correlation is strong and you can suppose it is weak we can't really get anywhere on that because we don't have any hard evidence
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 04:46 PM
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And I'm saying that number would be like 8× smaller if men behaved as women and secretly decided their partners feelings and motivations for them and used those secret divinations as reasoning as to why they should end the relationship. The rate of people who stay together now is slightly under 50% last I checked, if you had your way it would be under 10% easily. And then you'd be left with more single mothers and you'd still blame it on men
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 04:34 PM
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And what forces her to do this? You claim the woman "has to" but who or what is forcing this on here? Only herself and her own insecurities I suspect. Which is why I pointed out, and will now again point out, that I suspect there to be a strong correlation between women who feel attraction to people outside of their relationship and women who feel they "have to" act on some intuitive projection of their suspicions.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 04:32 PM
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If women initiate 80% of break ups and men are the issue, not women, only a tiny fraction of couples would stay together, have kids etc
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 04:29 PM
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Women make it more lightly than do men obviously I didn't mean to say every time a woman breaks up with a man it's an example of them bleeding him dry. I'm just saying they break up with men so much more that even if it's 20% of break ups it's still far far more than men. Women initiate 80% of divorces. So even if 20% of those are simply her believing she can do better that's still more often than men break up for that reason. Men initiate 20% of divorces and surely some of those are due to the …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 03:34 PM
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This is double speak. Either it is based on evidence or it's intuition it can't be both
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 03:29 PM
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Again, women break up with men to a factor of 4x as much as men break up with women. I suspect you're speaking in the mind of an apex fallacy. It is likely the men you want or find attractive are the ones displaying this behavior, which are also likely the very top alpha men who behave that way because they are the most sought after rather than the behavior of normal men
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 03:15 PM
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Well it's not an intuition if it's based on concrete observations. If there's dark clouds in the sky it's not an intuition that rain is coming, it's an observation
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 03:13 PM
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None of this makes any logical sense and smacks of confirmation bias. As if no women has ever left a guy for what she considered a better prospect after bleeding him dry and having kids with him. Happens all the time. In fact, it happens more often than with men as women are far and away more likely to break off a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 02:57 PM
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Confirmation bias. Have you ever heard the term "seek and yee shall find"? It means if you believe there must be a problem, you will find one, even if that means manifestating one yourself. Whether or not there truly is a problem. If you begin withdrawing from a relationship on such a whim, you invite problems to arise. It's a self fulfilling prophecy. You have a psychic intuition there's a problem, so you begin to withdraw. Your withdrawal causes a problem to arise. But in your mind, you merely…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 02:55 PM
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Same with women
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 12:51 PM
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Revealing relationship secrets to the sisterhood of sluts is toxic and will destroy a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 12:43 PM
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Don't base any major life decisions on something like an intuition
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 12:39 PM
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Y
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 03:17 AM
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How could one prove that? Several are saying they are. So it's several guys personal experiences vs yours. The sample size is higher in the men than your singular experience therefore your more likely to be wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 01:50 AM
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Then what are you asking me for
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 01:06 AM
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You want me to explain every single anecdote women on here say that doesn't match up with statistics? We'd be here all week
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 01:00 AM
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I don't know what you're asking me to explain
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 12:52 AM
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If women report things that are proven incorrect by statistics, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 12:45 AM
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Why don't women choose men who would not do this? Plenty of men wouldn't yet women don't pick them. That's why. They make it very clear they don't give a fuck. Yet I'm supposed to blame him when exactly what he said comes to pass?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 12:38 AM
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They won't admit it but if the choice is average guy that will stick around or chad babies they sure as fuck would choose chad babies
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 12:35 AM
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So you're just basing everything on personal experience. And yet you're also telling men their personal experience is invalid. These men are out here saying they are average and can't get a woman. That is their life experience. And you want to tell them they are wrong, but only have the exact same anecdotal evidence. That's pretty silly
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 12:32 AM
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So you're saying that the reason sexless men can't find a gf is they are choosing to despite them saying they are trying. What are you basing this thought on?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 12:25 AM
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You're not making sense
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 12:17 AM
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No choice paralysis is just common when you have many options regardless. You don't need to actively be keeping people as options for them to exist
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 12:11 AM
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Yeah but that doesn't make the options cease existing...?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 12:07 AM
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What are you referring to when you say just because you can doesn't mean you should
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 12:03 AM
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You're not making any sense. Your options are the people who would willingly be with you. Whether you are currently entertaining the idea of being with them doesn't make them not exist
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 12:03 AM
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Cool? What makes you think I care what you personally are doing
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 11:43 PM
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It makes you value whats truly special and meaningful to you. Which is a more difficult criteria to meet when you have several options. It's called choice paralysis it's a well documented phenomenon. Also people aren't cars. Wait WHAT!? You aren't talking about human beings stored in a garage. Only a sociopath would 'shelf' people and use them when they please. You're getting ready too caught up on the details and not the point of the analogy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 11:42 PM
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I'd say i really dgaf what did you think I was going to say
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 11:38 PM
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Yeah it doesn't really matter why. I didn't say it was him or wasn't him that is causing his lack of options. I'm just saying he lacks options. If you truly believe the average man has as many options as a woman you're just in denial
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 10:54 PM
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You think the average man has as many options as the average woman!?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 10:29 PM
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I'll never understand why women on here try to argue facts from their personal experience. It's like if I said fire burns there'd be some woman claiming it doesn't because she once ran through a fire and didn't get burned
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 10:22 PM
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You're disagreeing with fundamental human nature which is universally agreed upon by experts
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 10:16 PM
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I have no idea what you're talking about. Abundance breeds apathy. It's true in every walk of life. You think a rich guy with 10 cars values any one of those cars as much as a man with one car values his? Of course not. If the rich man's car breaks down, he has another waiting in the garage.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 10:15 PM
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Nah it's simple logic and knowledge of human behavior that abundance often breeds apathy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 10:14 PM
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No it's not "just like" though. There is a difference and it is the one i pointed out. Let's look at it this way. A woman has ten apples to choose from, and chooses a rotten one. A man has one rotten apple to choose from. Which one of them is more at fault for choosing the rotten apple, the one with no other choices or the one who had 9 good apples but chose the 1 bad one.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 10:13 PM
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I didn't say they didn't value relationships. I said they were LESS LIKELY to. And you must realize that your experience is not universal
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 09:56 PM
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What isn't currect
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 09:53 PM
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I did ?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 09:43 PM
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Attractive man are less likely to value a relationship because they can always get another. You know how women initiate 80% of divorces? Well Attractive men are like that, very willing to drop a relationship if it is even a slight fraction away from perfect. They are also less likely to enter a relationship, which leads to them sleeping with women and not initiating a relationship. Which leads to women feeling hurt. Hence why they are not considered to be nice
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 09:35 PM
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Women have many potential suitors and can choose from them who they deem to be the best. The majority of men do not have several options. They can either get with the one girl who wants them regardless of how she is or maybe never have the chance at a relationship again.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 09:28 PM
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The majority of men don't have the luxury of choosing
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 09:02 PM
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I don't mind eating my gf out but on randoms it's gross and I don't want it to be a necessity
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 08:05 PM
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If women need their pussy ate to enjoy sex I'm not interested. I'll stick with the 1/3rd of women who haven't desensitized themselves with vibrators
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 07:25 PM
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If a girl can't cum from sex with me she can move on I dgaf
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 06:09 PM
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You fear women's judgement. We don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 05:40 PM
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Why don't we want to encourage women to use their sexuality in that way
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 05:11 PM
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That's not comparable in my opinion because the men in question also have to be able to get hard, And to agree to such shenanigans beforehand
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 09:39 AM
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Men who do porn let other men fuck them in the ass for money and that doesn't require them to get hard either. I don't believe that's anywhere near most porn men. Yet in relationships men want to do things that get them hard and more. It's the same thing. It would be the same thing if it was universal. Like if every male in porn also did gay porn. But I don't believe that's the case. Edit: I've looked it up and the biggest straight male porn stars do not do gay porn. Some male porn stars do perf…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 08:27 AM
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Yeah I believe I've agreed they should not be legally allowed to spring new things on the woman or the man. But for some reason I never see this being brought up about the men in porn. Surely some men don't want to spit on, hit, or otherwise degrade the woman they are performing with and it is similarly sprung on them, yet these men are not part of the consent conversation
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 08:24 AM
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He expects the person who claims to love him to want to have sex with him. If women don't truly love him and want it to be transactional, they should be honest instead of lying and saying they love him
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 08:21 AM
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What I've observed is women saying even women who are entirely dependent on their spouses, stay at home mothers or even wives or gfs, will not be able to maintain a "live" bedroom. That women who are not attracted to their spouse, can't maintain having sex with their spouse for any reason other than physical attraction. This runs counter to women who do porn for money. I understand and agree with the concept that women who do porn aren't representative of every woman. But this would also seem to…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 07:59 AM
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Yeah what I'm saying is why do women dead bedroom men who are providers if they can have sex for money
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 07:24 AM
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I don't think it's reasonable for you to expect men to realize that the only reason their woman is with them is money. Women usually don't come out and say that. It just seemed like you assumed the problem was mine because you said ok. marry a prostitute? like if sex is worth money, trade it for money. this is very confusing Seemed like you were telling me to marry a prostitute when this was more of a general observation. Sorry for the misunderstanding
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 07:21 AM
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And I get that but the women here claim dead bedrooms are the inevitable conclusion to that even if the money keeps flowing. I think the only solution is for men to withhold resources until they get sex, which most women would deem manipulative but it seems like women's sexuality responds to that more than to free flowing money. If you give them unfettered access to your funds? Dead bedroom. So I guess withhold Funds and make it a straight forward transaction. This is reasonably logical given wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 07:19 AM
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Yeah you would want him to enjoy having sex with you as you are the woman he claims to love. That's the confusion. The women claim to love their husbands but they no longer are attracted to them have somehow managed to not only decouple love from sex, but to couple sex exclusively with physical attraction. This runs counter to what women usually say about love and attraction being joined together. They say all the time men are disgusting for being able to have sex with a woman they don't like. B…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 07:16 AM
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What I'm attempting to point out is women say that if they marry anyone they aren't attracted to dead bedroom is inevitable. So that would logically include men they married for money. But why would that be the case when women can fuck for money if they want to, hence the existence of prostitutes. This isn't about me so I don't really understand why you're telling me to marry a prostitute or assuming I'm in a situation where I have a woman that wants me for my money
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 07:13 AM
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So do that for your spouse
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 06:50 AM
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Sure but i would do my job that I do for money for my wife to make her happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 06:50 AM
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The issue is they can't seem to have sex with men they aren't attracted to according to them, yet they can for money Edit, they can't have sex with men they claim to love in every way except attraction yet can for money directly
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 06:48 AM
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But they say it's women's sexuality to need foreplay be attracted and dead bedroom men you aren't attracted to. You would assume women in porn are also afflicted by women's sexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 06:40 AM
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Women: I can't be with someone I'm not attracted to because dead bedroom would just happen. I need attraction and foreplay etc. Also women: Do porn where you hook up with a bunch of men you just met you aren't attracted to and no foreplay for money
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 06:24 AM
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I would support that although it brings up a lot of issues in terms of amateur porn. Like if I got my lady's consent to post a video of us fucking and she's not certified there would be an issue. And I guess we would both have to be certified? Edit: we also can't force people to destigmatize selling access to your body for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 06:18 AM
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I agree a transition period would be helpful and I'm not saying on a moral or factual level you're an adult at 18 but I'm saying on a legal level we either need to consider them adults or we need to not. This whole concept of they are legally adults but not morally so you are judged negatively if you treat them like any other adult is bunk
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 06:16 AM
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Either you're an adult at 18 or you're a kid. If you're a kid you should not be legally able to make any decisions. If you're not a kid you should be fully responsible. But I would actually support legislation that makes it so 18-20 or even 21 to be considered some new class of semi adult who are limited in their decisions. Like a sort of training period
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 06:08 AM
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While i agree that it should be made mandatory I also feel everyone has a unique responsibility to protect themselves. People who take advantage of others are pieces of shit. But it's up to you to not allow yourself to be taken advantage of.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 05:38 AM
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AFAIK they do and if they don't they have the option to stop at any time
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 05:27 AM
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Everywhere? I've even seen women go as far as to suggest men should not be angry at women for sleeping with chad but be mad at chad. It's like... what? I agree with everything you said it's just odd you haven't seen this side of it. But I guess you are a woman so you wouldn't be being told to check other men so it makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 04:51 AM
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The women must agree to the actions and they can stop at any time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 04:49 AM
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I was talking about being a player/fuckboy women still say men should check ithe men about that kind of stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 04:46 AM
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No I'm speaking about being a player/fuckboy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 04:45 AM
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That's a great point I hadn't even thought of. Every time a man is unfettered in his sexuality women tell men we need to police each other and be better. When it's women it's yaaaaaaas kuweeen
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 04:23 AM
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Yes it's odd how women can say that about men but get so upset when men say things like they don't want high n count. Women's unrestrained sexuality is equally repulsive to men
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 03:22 AM
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I think he's saying he now has zero choice to stay in
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 03:08 AM
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I mean, with a paternity test this is about perfect
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 07:07 AM
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I don't understand how wanting there to be consequences for women's actions is a punishment. If so men are being punished all the time and would simply like women to be treated the same
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 05:53 PM
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Men would love for it to be illegal
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 05:48 PM
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All rights or just the ones that allow the carousel rides
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 05:46 PM
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You must be joking that you believe this. Why would any woman attend these parties if everyone and themselves are just non stop raped there? You'd think they'd wise up
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 04:22 PM
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Some sort of fleshy carnival ride
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 04:19 PM
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How delightfully dysfunctional
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 05:12 AM
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Why not just find someone who doesn't display this behavior? Women have infinitely more options than men of equal attractiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 04:38 AM
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Confirmation bias
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 03:40 AM
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I don't think that is a good argument. Somethings legality isn't evidence it is common. It's legal for me to put a tootsie roll in my ass. I've never done it, but it's perfectly legal. Just because something isn't explicitly illegal, that doesn't mean it's something that was occurring with any frequency.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 03:39 AM
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If you can make enough to secure a place to live for the month and a game console in 8 hours you're blessed
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 07:13 PM
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Fomo and choice paralysis, both very unhealthy
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 04:55 PM
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Hey you're the one that presented that as the main criteria
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 04:54 PM
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Trauma bonding is one of the strongest and most lasting bonds for people in the military when they say trauma bonding is bad I think they mean bonding to someone who caused you trauma because of the trauma is bad
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 04:54 PM
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Psychology is pseudo science anyways if it works for him it works
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 04:43 PM
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You don't get to dictate what healthy grieving looks like
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 04:39 PM
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I can't imagine having seen so many of the opposite sexes genitalia I would describe one as mediocre
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 04:37 PM
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Men find her hot in spite of her behavior. Women find male killers hot BECAUSE of their behavior. Huge difference
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 01:27 PM
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Now you're conflating many different religions while ignoring my question. What do women not do that is in their instincts to do for the sake of society
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 07:55 PM
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And yet men are still being held to the religious and traditional morality. For them it's the same. Only women got a break to behave like animals. Funny how that worked out. Conveniently redefine morality but only for women. So what sacrifices do women make to maintain society now?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 07:35 PM
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That's your definition of morality and I don't agree with it. In your version, if you're okay with being raped it's okay to rape others
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 07:22 PM
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Who decides what is moral? Men don't think the way women behave is moral hence trp etc but women don't care about that. So women are violating men's morality, but they don't give a fuck. So why should men give a fuck about the things women find immoral? The problem is you're behaving like animals while expecting others to behave better in order to maintain society. The freedom granted to you by men choosing to be better is being shit on so women can take turns squatting on chads dick. Why do you…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 07:14 PM
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Here we finally are. No they don't want to. They want to have sex with women willingly. They have the instinct to do so. To murder. To take what they want by force. They don't want to do these things. They have the instincts to do them. Just like how somebody has the instinct to survive might turn to cannibalism to live despite being disgusted by the idea. It's an instinct to survive, to spread their seed. Women don’t need to deny our baser instincts because our baser instincts don’t involve opp…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 07:05 PM
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Or someone you met at the bar and had a good time with or at school or wherever is the only way you can learn you enjoy someone's company is them jumping through hoops?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 06:55 PM
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They currently are accepting this sort of sacrifice. Men are unhappy. Economy failing children suffering all so women can get chad dick. Very odd of you to suggest they wouldn't accept it when we are living it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 06:53 PM
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That you enjoy spending time with
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 06:50 PM
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I fail to see how you can prove that women love and choose polygamy and promiscuity over monogamy and relative (to men) prudence when all evidence indicates the opposite What evidence? Marriage rates are plummeting while single motherhood is on the rise? Sexlessness among men growing faster than among women proves they are having sex with the same men. What evidence do you have that they are as or more monogamous. In any case, your only case seems to be that choice is ok for one gender but not t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 06:47 PM
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Why is it that you can't choose someone you enjoy to be around without them expending effort they feel to be unreasonable? That would say more about you than them
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 06:40 PM
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Just in terms of objectivity, that which is the best for the greatest number of people is the superior option. Here we have two options, create a society men hate that is doomed to collapse, birth rates are low, single mothers raising kids in poverty, cock carousel for what? Why do we accept this society? Because acting like animals makes women happy. The suffering of men and children be damned. The other option is a society that makes men happy. High birth rates, no single mothers less kids in …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 06:39 PM
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What the fuck are you talking about? What is an inanimate object
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 06:33 PM
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You're not really listening on purpose I suspect. Women prefer to be with men with many options rather than a man with few. This translates to them being one of many women that man has access to. They would prefer that to being with a guy who is average looking. They'll date him for a month till he dumps them and he moves on. While this may not be a direct harem it is a defacto one. The part they prefer is not being one of many but access to the top men. They accept being one of many in order to…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 06:33 PM
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Women aren't happy there, men aren't happy here. So the question becomes which is better? The only criteria I can think of is what is best for society, would that be a reasonable criteria? If both men and women can't be happy at the same time, shouldn't we choose the path that makes the most sense for society? It just so happens that path seems to coincide with what men would prefer in my opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 06:27 PM
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I'm asking why she thinks unless he jumps through hoops and monkey dances she's not happy
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 06:23 PM
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Yes it's very puzzling how you can't seem to answer questions directly. Why
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 06:23 PM
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This is true but that doesn't change how frustrating it is to be accused of threatening someone by pointing out the tsunami. If I wanted to threaten someone I'd come right out and do it. I don't want the tsunami and I want to prevent it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 06:01 PM
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I don't see how this statement answers any of my questions
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 05:58 PM
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Your simply stating they think x and not saying why
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 05:57 PM
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If they get away with it it's due to lack of reporting or reporting in a timely manner. The onus is on the victim and as much as I wish we could find some way to not place that stress on a victim there's literally no way around it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 05:56 PM
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Yes now we are getting somewhere. So women prefer to be one of many single user objects because that aligns with their animal instincts. So women do not deny they're animal instincts like men do, glad to agree. So now tell me why men should accept this arrangement where only they are existed to be better than their animal instincts. You seem to think behaving like an animal is just fine when it aligns with your instincts that are a detriment to a society. Why should men view acting like their an…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 05:55 PM
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They are in a defacto harem with chad and his roster. Regardless please actually answer the question. Men deny their baser instincts. What instincts do women deny?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 05:50 PM
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If you do, war zones, ultra conservative religious communities or petro-caliphates are thatways —-> Yes exactly that's my point. If you want to behave like an animal, go be an animal among the animals. If you want to behave like a civilized person with the rest of us, then do so
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 05:40 PM
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So you agree men are denying their animal instincts. So why can't women reciprocate? Their animal instincts is to chase chad. They don't try to deny this instinct for society like men do. Why? Why should men be the only ones who are expected to behave like civilized people?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 05:36 PM
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So the question becomes, why are women making relationships so much work?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 05:24 PM
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Men wearing toupee or heels are relentlessly mocked and growing a beard, if you can, is not as fast or easy as slapping make up on
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 05:15 PM
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And we do frequently and even give penalties if they don't listen
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 05:10 PM
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Are men behaving as they do or did in nature? Or in third world countries? Are they embracing their animal instincts? Or are they denying them?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 05:07 PM
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We as in society imprison those found guilty of rape. If they aren't in jail they either didn't have enough evidence to convict or they were not guilty
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 05:03 PM
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What lesser instincts? It’s very basic and simple to me. Either women can do what they want or they can’t, of which not fucking or marrying is a great part By lesser instincts I mean, what is the difference between how a woman behaves in society vs in nature? In nature women crowd around only the men they view to be the best, and they share those men. This is how women behave as animals. To be civilized means to do what is best for society, and finding joy and pride in it. Similarly in nature an…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 05:02 PM
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They want women to behave in a civilized manner as they expect men to. Why can you not answer the question I asked? If you want men to deny their lesser instincts why should you not be expected to as well? Please honestly answer that question Is there no responsibility in freedom? Just because you are free to tear down society doesn't mean you should, does it? Men are free to abandon their kids and pay only minimum child support, yet we do not approve of that as a society, do we? Are women tryin…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 04:55 PM
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Men don't want rapey oppression. I've said this several times. They want women to behave in a civilized manner as they expect men to. If you want men to deny their lesser instincts why should you not be expected to as well? Please honestly answer that question
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 04:43 PM
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Well I happen to be of the opinion that mud huts are a far worse way to live
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 04:35 PM
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Nah beta men make those, program them etc and they will not do so if there is nothing in it for them which there increasingly isn't
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 04:34 PM
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And I'm allowed to observe that your critique amounts to shitting on it, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 04:33 PM
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Exactly. Why would he assume that men would hoard women for themselves? Then women still have to fuck those icky betas anyways. They'll just do it as payment for the beta men's services to the warlords.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 04:32 PM
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By comparing unfavorably to mud huts
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 04:29 PM
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Ah but you see I don't propose that women not marry who they want. To prevent this from being an issue all that would need to happen is more women marrying young. This takes chads out of the dating market. No more 20% of men getting 80% of women. Then women would have no choice but to marry the best man she can get. Honestly you really think that the issue is just women marrying and fucking who they want? What a complete misrepresentation. The strawest of strawmen. I don't have any issue with wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 04:26 PM
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If more and more men become disenfranchised yes. If birth rates don't rise enough to maintain our culture and we must bring in immigrants from cultures with no rights for women, yes. Note that I say OUR society will collapse this doesn't mean that there will be no form of society left behind. If we get immigrants from the middle east to pad out our birth rates than it will take around 50 years in my estimation for our societal values to match middle eastern values more closely, and that in my op…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 04:18 PM
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In what way has it made the world a better place. Society collapsing won't happen overnight. But in small incremental shifts like, oh I dunno, birth rates lowering to an alarming degree, inflation, empty grocery store shelves, dissatisfaction from the masses etc. All these things are occurring before our eyes. Choose to be blind if you'd like but pretty soon you'll have to burn out those useless orbs if you don't want to see. Or we can realize what we have is the most free and prosperous society…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 03:49 PM
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What is this noble decision is it that women have made? I asked you would you rather have option 1 or option 2 and you say you have made your decision but you didn't specify which one. Noticing a trend and knowing where that leads historically isn't a threat anymore than saying day will turn to night is a threat. The only difference is in this scenario if you want to prevent the darkest of nights, you and other women can by adjusting your standards one fraction of an iota. It isn't a threat to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 03:45 PM
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I don't think it's seen as defending rape. I think women find it exhausting to be told these "well meaning tips" by people who don't understand that no matter what you wear or how much you drink or how late you stay out, as a woman you have to consider that someone might not take "no" for an answer and plan accordingly. Yeah that's exactly what they are telling you to do though? They aren't saying do x and you will always be 100% safe it's do what you need to do to be safe It'd be nice if we cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 03:38 PM
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Yes I realize that which is why I'm advocating for the prevention of such an outcome it seems to be women who just kinda shrug as long as they have access to chad dick the world could burn their children could be made slaves and that is apparently an acceptible trade off for them since they think they should do less than zero to prevent this outcome. I say less than zero because when this is brought up women get very antagonistic and just start insulting and mocking the men who are expressing co…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 03:23 PM
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You could prevent that by being less picky? If more women married young that would cease to be an inevitability. In my interpretation it is more like "so what if our behavior leads to our grandkids suffering, at least I got a taste of chad dick" The reason I interpret your comment like that is you are suggesting the behavior of women has zero effect on whether or not men at some future point become so disenfranchised and distraught they turn to this type of behavior. But we both know that's not …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 03:21 PM
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Social sex security is not nearly the only possible solution to the issue and as close as 50 to 70 years ago this wasn't a problem. So this is a very new issue, isn't it? And the issue is getting worse and worse, thanks to the greed and vanity of women. It will hit a tipping point where solutions will be enacted, and women might not like these solutions. They could prevent this from occurring with being a little reasonable and behaving more modestly. If women are just going to keep shitting on t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 02:45 PM
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Absolutely nonsense. This supposes not only that women choose for strength, they don't, they will choose pretty face over strength every day of the week, but that the masses, roughly 80% of men will accept slavery from the 20% Except guns exist and there's no reason to believe 80% of men would have less than 20% of chads. Chad lives a pampered life of getting anything and everything he wants with next to zero effort via halo effect. Except that shit won't fly when it really hits the fan. The maj…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 02:39 PM
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Your point was originally that only sexually unsuccessful men care. I point out that's not true and now you're placing all sorts of arbitrary requirements on what caring would be from starting an international support group to getting a seat at congress. That's utterly ridiculous and you know it. It doesn't take solving the problem to care, let alone doing so singlehandedly. I'm assuming there's things you care about that you're not the head of an international support group of, I'm also assumin…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 02:35 PM
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I've noticed whenever the collapse of society is brought up women either express that they don't care at all or they even go so far to say such a thing would be a positive? Am I the only one who noticed this?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 02:01 PM
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Nature doesn't exactly care if a stag with deformed antlers doesn't reproduce. Why over and over with the appeal to nature fallacy? Nature doesn't care if people die yet we have hospitals. Doesn't care if people starve yet we have charities. Why are you not similarly telling people hospitals and charities are a waste of time because nature doesn't care? What about things like murder and rape we shouldn't care about those things since nature doesn't according to your logic, right? Funny how you o…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:41 PM
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That's exactly what they do. Women seriously think their pussy is the single most important thing on this planet and that if you don't get pussy your opinion is worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:39 PM
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Well it was just an example of how a very innocent and well meaning tip gets perverted by women into men defending rape
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:15 PM
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Ah so the only way to care is international support groups? Anything short of that is not caring?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:08 PM
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That's literally what you're doing when you complain that people on here are complaining though? They can both complain on this sub and adapt can they not?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:39 PM
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The free will to be a blind slave to your instinctual attraction sounds like a paradox
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:31 PM
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Please point out any man anywhere saying the growing number of virgins isn't an issue because they get pussy
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:28 PM
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Who says they don't? Who says men who get pussy become blind to the struggles of other men? I'm sure not and I get mine
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:27 PM
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Then why are you on this sub and not adapting
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:25 PM
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Why is dead bedroom a given? Why can't you be attracted to a reasonable looking man?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:22 PM
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Men can't use make up and the other 2 things you can't just slap on in ten minutes
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 03:14 AM
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Fuck that stupid ass movie only exists to make people depressed zero redeeming factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 02:57 AM
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Big fish
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 02:57 AM
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I think if you asked them they'd say they are simply saying it is a factor not that rape is not a choice nor that they think it's okay. My experience with women on this sub has led me to believe women don't really listen to what's being said, rather they try and guess what is meant by what is said. For example, if a guy says a girl should not have gotten black out drunk at a party full of strangers, women will immediately accuse you of victim blaming or saying it's her fault when all men are say…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 02:55 AM
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I mean it doesn't really improve your looks in any permanent way, what equivalent is there for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 02:37 AM
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The art of concealing. It doesn't improve your looks so much as hides your faults if that makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 02:35 AM
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And yet they tell women this secret openly? Seems counterintuitive
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 02:25 AM
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I think there's a distinct difference between actual effort and make up. There is no male equivalent to make up, something you can just slap on your face to conceal your flaws. It is similar to me slapping a paper bag on my head and saying I put in effort
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 02:19 AM
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I'm not sure what that is supposed to mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:45 AM
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It is kinda disingenuous to equate make up with effort
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:43 AM
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They think men all think it's okay to rape women but none of them can provide any evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:25 AM
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I'm not sure what else you're implying by saying I could just listen to women. Unless I believe them what good would listening do
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:14 AM
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You can make that choice if you want, but know that you will get the leftover men. Sucks but that's how it is
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:03 AM
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Ah yes believe women by default as if they don't lie and are never mistaken
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:01 AM
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Ah so something you can't prove. I don't really know how I'm supposed to verify that
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:55 AM
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Should have chosen better when you were young and settled down. Women can't have their cake and eat it too
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:54 AM
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Too often
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:50 AM
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No they do not. I've seen people mention it as a factor. Women don't read what is being written they assume meanings. Provide even one link to a man saying it's okay to rape or somebody shouldn't be prosecuted because testosterone. You can't because it's not real
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:47 AM
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What do you think would improve in your life as a result?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:22 AM
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What is the alternative
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:21 AM
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What is the alternative? Simply taking their word for it and punishing people without due process?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:15 AM
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They have pussy power and the reason they feel so violated is they didn't get to use it. Contrast a man who is forced to penetrate. It is roughly analogous but men don't claim nearly as much trauma from it, how and or why?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:07 AM
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These are opinion pieces and if they weren't interested their dicks wouldn't get hard
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:04 AM
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There's no way around that if they want justice
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:04 AM
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Probably evens out if you account for the women who orgasm multiple times in one session
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:03 AM
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That's sounds like a you thing
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:44 PM
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Very often they will offer a plea deal to someone who they don't have a good case against. Standard procedure because if it went to court they have a chance of losing
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:43 PM
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It isn't weaponized the men just want sex. It seems weaponized to the victims
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:42 PM
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Women are greedy vain little creatures. Only women can have multiple orgasms during sex but they are the ones most obsessed with moar
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:42 PM
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Yes for the victim it violates their power if it were just about power for the aggressor there would not be sex involved
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:40 PM
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There's 4 sources but if the numbers are that low they must not have compelling cases. A lot of them are lying or their stories aren't realistic
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:39 PM
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Nah they are seriously more obsessed than even incels about orgasms
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:13 PM
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You're using reports of women who say they were raped vs number of convictions. The proper stat is how many rapes were reported to the police in a timely manner. You can't say the system isn't working when women simply don't report. If they plea down its due to lack of evidence
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:10 PM
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Only if you view your sexuality as your power. They want sex. For them it's about sex. For YOU it's about power
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 10:44 PM
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According to whom?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 10:33 PM
1

Yeah bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 10:33 PM
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A starving man thinks of food because he needs it not because he'd just like more of it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 10:22 PM
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No that isn't the narrative as rape groping etc are illegal and will land you in jail.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 10:22 PM
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I'm sorry did I say every woman? If so that was not my intention
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 10:19 PM
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You're telling me you haven't seen this? Women saying men are creeps for looking at them?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 10:14 PM
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No because you need food you don't need orgasms sweaty
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 10:13 PM
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What do you mean which is it? I'm simply illustrating how hormones can effect our actions, and the double standard of women getting sympathy and being excused for bad actions that were influenced by their hormones but when men do the same they are mocked and derided.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 10:12 PM
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Why should they be on medication why can't they just control their actions regardless of their hormones? Funny how the double standard comes out and you completely ignore it. Women wouldn't last a fucking day if they had half of the hormones men had flowing through their system as evidenced by fluctuations in their hormones causing them to murder their own kids
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 09:55 PM
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It sounds like a large amount when phrased like that but the overall amount is still so small it isn't of concern.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 09:52 PM
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Very true, women are over half of the voting population by virtue of living longer, and they hold disproportionate power over the media. So without them being in on it men can't get anything done.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 09:49 PM
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No I am not what are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 09:48 PM
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If you're talking about fucking ugly girls you might as well be saying post partum depression is a choice and women should stop blaming their behavior on biology when they kill their kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 09:47 PM
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Attracted to their looksmatch, either able to resist hypergamy or get rid of it all together
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 09:47 PM
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Women do it but pretend they don't know he's way out of her league
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 09:41 PM
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Jesus women are obsessed with orgasms
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 09:39 PM
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I don't know what you mean about this pyramid scheme
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 09:30 PM
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No you are not told by normal men that you deserved to be raped for going to a man's house
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 09:29 PM
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No you aren't that is particularly stinky bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 09:21 PM
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Why would it be good for humanity to stop existing?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 09:21 PM
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If it were about power for men they'd just beat the girl up. It's about power for women because they use their vagina as leverage. To them sex they don't want is about power because they didn't get anything from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 09:20 PM
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Women REPORT more. That's a fact. Whether or not it's true they suffer more is not a proven fact. Women have a mental break down from somebody looking at them for too long
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 09:19 PM
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They don't care they want all the toys and for us peasants to shut the fuck up about it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 09:18 PM
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Why do you keep carting out this lie? Men are not given leeway to act however they want. If they break the law they go to jail nobody says its just testosterone. If you're talking about fucking ugly girls you might as well be saying post partum depression is a choice and women should stop blaming their behavior on biology when they kill their kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 09:17 PM
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If by solve problems you mean cause extinction
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 09:15 PM
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Strawman. You can encourage safety and point out lapses in judgment without placing the blame on the victim. Also what does this have to do with testosterone?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 09:11 PM
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In one place by a miniscule amount. Yeah great point
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 09:08 PM
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No and neither do men. They say it is a factor but nobody said it was the main one nor that it should be excused because of that
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 08:58 PM
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No I said I think feminists convinced women that men's attempts to protect women was denigration.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 07:33 PM
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What did this have to do with my original point?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 07:27 PM
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Austria has gangs though?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 07:20 PM
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Why didn't you just come out and say that. The majority of women did not support feminism nor the right to vote. It was the vocal minority. So the majority were happy and the loud minority ruined everything for the majority
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 07:01 PM
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What countries don't have gangs in one form or another?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 06:59 PM
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I'm going by things I've seen numerous men say. So it the ideas are nonsense, ....... What men where? Anyway, you got what you got. This is a meaningless statement. Women can have their own houses, buy their own food, and call the cops if anything happens. Because men outsourced the protection of their communities. Yes and water is wet. Did I say they didn't or couldn't have these things? If only there had been some way to keep women from being happy not to need men anymore. I have no idea what …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 06:23 PM
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The testosterone made them more able they still made a choice. Women did not choose to have kids, it was a natural reaction. The rest of the things you said are needlessly cryptic and pseudo intellectual nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 06:08 PM
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That it was a natural consequence of sex. Raising the kids is commendable and important. But women like sex and there was no abortion or condoms so kids just kind of happened. I don't give credit to men who did nothing but their bodily functions either. Raising the kids was valued equally to work, as evidenced by the fact that men would pay their wives in the form of a place to live and food to eat to do it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 05:50 PM
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Men could have protected women and made the home womens sphere while also thinking them 100% their equals in both value and contribution. And I'm saying they did just that, and you have provided zero evidence outside of your insistence that this wasn't the case
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 05:42 PM
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Women. But your comment still makes zero sense. Couldn't protect them? Well there are still women and kids being born looks like they were protected. What are you on about
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 05:37 PM
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Women "get things done" by bitching at men and men listening because men have empathy. Women do not have empathy for men so men cannot "get things done" (bitch until someone else does something about it) in the same way women can, have and do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 05:31 PM
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So obviously this idea that you need XX to do these jobs is bunk Nobody said anybody NEEDED xx to do these jobs what I'm talking about is being better suited to the task. Women are better suited at teaching than working construction because construction requires strength, and teaching requires patience with children. Women have less strength than men but they have patience with kids. As a side note this becomes an issue because we are supposedly equal, but women either can't or won't do the dirt…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 05:29 PM
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I have no idea what this is even supposed to mean. Protect them? Who them? What them? Think them my equal in importance? What?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 05:25 PM
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Not every women but a good size of population must be tested you can make assumptions off one women I never said they used an accurate sample size to make the decision. I never said the decision was justified. I just said that it didn't come from nothing. Labour jobs are not about women doing better work then men it about doing the job to satisfaction. In World War 2 women did just fine in factories. When the standard is men's capacity the average women's capacity in such an environment is far b…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 05:22 PM
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I seriously doubt mud hut countries have stringent immigration laws. And if you like the house why are you shitting on it?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 04:54 PM
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If you are determined to find something that confirms your suppositions, no matter how unrealistic or unreasonable, you will find something that you can twist to that purpose. I went to school too,I didn't see any evidence of what you're suggesting
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 04:53 PM
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And thus the Bible proclaimed them evil?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 04:52 PM
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I can't prove a negative. I can't prove somebody didn't do x. You made the claim, now back it up or go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 04:36 PM
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The husband is given money as a way to give their daughter an inheritance. Any money given to the man was assumed to be used to give his daughter a better life
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 04:35 PM
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You're really just ignoring the question. So the Bible just made up that women are evil? Couldn't be, say, that it is factually true women are more selfish and less caring about morals than men? No couldn't be that
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 04:34 PM
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You think it costs a ton to fly to a mud hut country? Why are you worried about evil capitalist money to begin with? Yes it's perfectly reasonable to expect somebody to walk the walk if they are going to talk the talk. Very easy to talk about how evil capitalism is and how great mud huts are when you're living in the lap of luxury. Go live in a mud hut for a year and you'd be begging for a little capitalism
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 04:33 PM
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I didn't say there was mass testing. You wouldn't have to test every woman to form an opinion. A lot of this is very hard to read and as a result I think your point is getting lost
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 04:31 PM
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Because women are smaller, weaker and have the disadvantage of getting pregnant. So it is literally BECAUSE of their percieved inferiority. Its descriptive, not prescriptive m Also because historically they were less educated. Why would men think women were inferior because men didn't let women become educated? Pretty much for the same reason why enslaved people were seen as lesser human beings. In the situation of slavery as relates to america and England they believed that because the people w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:57 PM
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And I have seen it. So prove it. Well, men did that. No they didn't. They would not put the lives of their children in the hands of someone they thought incapable. For example in Victorian Englad were it was always a female servant's fault if her master raped her. Where is the evidence of this? But there are tons of examples, I would havr to write a whole essay describing Catholic Poland for example. Or simply link me to the evidence. These things happen now, just in different places. Christans …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:55 PM
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So they just assumed based on literally nothing but the fact they hadn't seen a woman do it? Or was it because when women had to do what men did they were simply inferior at the tasks so they just thought to save the time to find the 1 in a million woman who could work as well as men? Remember, 99% of work leading up to the industrial revolution and beyond until around 1950-1970 was grueling back breaking labor not the air conditioner e mail forwarding it is now. Hell practically the only reason…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:52 PM
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Men were given money by their brides makes their brides property?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:49 PM
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What? If you honestly believe that why not move to a mud hut country and live in your supposed paradise?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:48 PM
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Yes WHY did Poland believe this? Did they pluck the idea out of thin air?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:38 PM
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As if misogyny wasn't the root of upholding the male power structure This clearly implies the root of men's power came from misogyny and no real world factor No matriarchy that started as a matriarchy made it out of mud huts. Women were not treated as property that's just feminist brainwashing
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:37 PM
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I think then and now people understood a lot of the Bible was metaphorical. Regardless the question is WHY did the Bible make these claims about women? For fun? Out of spite?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:35 PM
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How can fail when you were never giving a chance. Where is the evidence they weren't given a chance? There were female slave owners business owners etc they managed to do it somehow, yet the majority of women couldn't. How limiting women make things easier that make no sense. Most work was very hard and had high mortality rates. It was easier for men to do the work. If you have stupid people who sign up and pay for classes no one would ban them because in the end you still get paid. They limit w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:28 PM
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The Bible also says fiery bushes could talk do you think that was a wide held belief?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:25 PM
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Well you're implying the only reason men had power or stayed in power was not any real world factor but the maintained belief that women were inferior despite zero evidence that it was the case
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:25 PM
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I think feminists convinced women that men's attempts to protect women was denigration.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:24 PM
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Well how it felt is certainly not an objective measurement of anything obviously but I can agree with that
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:23 PM
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I think capability was what put men in power not some secret cult.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:22 PM
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First, women were working on the fields, along with men. Only in low class/impoverished coupling. The women of rich farmers did not work the fields. This is why it was low class for women to work the fields but not men. Which is the perfect example as to men being considered low class to do womens work not meaning it was inherently less valuable. Women's work was seen as beneath men, that's the truth. It has never been the other way. I've never seen this said except by feminists who insist the o…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:22 PM
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They didn't risk their lives to give birth out of some noble pursuit. It is simply a bodily reaction. It makes no sense to suggest that they built society simply because they had sex and let a man ejaculate inside of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:17 PM
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I don't believe it was ever they are simply inferior over all vs inferior at the tasks men found important for men to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:15 PM
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Where did men get the idea that women were inferior at certain tasks before feminism? Why do women seem to think this was something men just made up and not a decision born of observation? Even to this day we see women choose certain jobs like nurse more than men, yet any inference that women were better suited to certain tasks is treated as though men simply made it up. Very confusing
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 02:55 PM
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Yes it was low status for a man to do the work of a woman, this doesn't mean a woman doing the work was low status. That's not a logical supposition. Similarly a woman working the fields was seen as a falling on the part of her husband. She was low status for doing menial labor, but a male farmer was not seen as low status. This is just odd projection. Just because men were expected to do different things and thus were low status if they had nothing to offer outside of the work women did doesn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 02:50 PM
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I am saying maybe the reason they limited women was because most of those who tried failed. So they saw it as easier to limit them to things they excelled in. This is simply a supposition but it's just as valid as the supposition that men just thought women were largely unable to perform as men were with zero evidence to support that supposition
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 02:47 PM
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This is nothing but feminist propaganda of course men were seen as less than women in the matters of the kitchen and the home. It's literally everywhere to see if you aren't stubbornly ignoring it in favor of fantasy. Find one source, please, that says that men were just as good at raising children as were women. You think men would wear clothes that were inferior because they were so stubborn they wouldn't make themselves better clothes even though they were superior at the task?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 02:34 PM
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More men succeeded than did women. We see women succeeding now, but that could be due to a combination of factors not the least of which were things like affirmative action basically forcing company to hire women, the feminization of the education system, the advancement of technology so it takes little to no actual strength to accomplish tasks that they used to. To ignore that women now have all these advantages in favor of just assuming they were or even are just as capable as men is nonsense.…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 02:11 PM
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Or because when women tried they failed at these things more often than not? Why do you assume there was no evidence to back up these suppositions?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 01:48 PM
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That is perhaps the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 01:26 PM
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They were "seen as" these things because they were feminine or because they objectively were these things in comparison to men at the time?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 01:26 PM
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That's not really a trick. Don't jackhammer is advice and I don't know what you mean by flex your dick
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:55 AM
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Pre selection
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:25 AM
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Your still wasting both of our time. What tricks are we talking here? Give examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 01:58 AM
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This analogy fails because it doesn't account for the fact that you can positively effect your orgasm. You're not helpless to the chefs like you are with pizza. So more accurate would be if you made pizza once and liked it and made pizza again and didn't like it and you blamed the ingredients instead of yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 08:05 PM
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Why are they placing the onus on the men though
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 03:09 PM
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I think there isn't a personality that indicates sexual potency. That entire concept smacks of halo effect with a liberal dose of confirmation bias
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 02:17 AM
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Guys fake being interested in an entire relationship to get laid regularly
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 11:57 PM
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Bro when somebody asks you what you're talking about usually you specify not say some completely off topic nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 11:24 PM
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What the fuck are you talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 10:20 PM
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Women don't expect maintenance effort they expect equal to the beginning of the relationship effort which is completely unrealistic and unsubstanable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 10:10 PM
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Ah so that means your instincts are 100% accurate and you're officially psychic
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 10:08 PM
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Men move forward and back belly dancing is more up and down.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 10:08 PM
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Yes but it would be less beneficial as a man
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 10:01 PM
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Yes I meant that a male belly dancer wouldn't be beneficial in the same way
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 09:12 PM
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They could lie
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 08:52 PM
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Sorry I meant for men
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 08:51 PM
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Saying that you got positive results because of your choices is confirmation bias. You could have just as easily been lucky. There's no way to know if the guys you turned down would have been good or bad in bed. The fact that you think you know is confirmation bias
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 08:19 PM
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Do you know what confirmation bias means?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 08:07 PM
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Confirmation bias
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 07:47 PM
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Just find someone you like to a reasonable extent during a friendship and commit. This concept of finding the perfect mate who ticks every box only leads to misery. It's the paradox of choice that the more choices you have the less happy you are with any given choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 06:54 PM
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Whut
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 06:47 PM
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It's really easy to figure this out during flirting. Just world bias Sexier men. Halo effect Men that seem experienced Could easily be lying Men that are great dancers. Have little to nothing to do with sex Fun men that are able to listen. Wha...? Bulge. If it's just about size, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 06:47 PM
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This is post hoc reasoning. They can't possibly distinguish between men who can or can't make them orgasm in any reliable way, they aren't clairvoyant.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 06:37 PM
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That's like saying "if you buy a car why wouldn't you expect to keep having to buy the car"?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 06:33 PM
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Long dating periods with many men are the opposite of what I'm talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 06:32 PM
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Yes that is the superior alternative.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 05:28 PM
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I don't see how that's relevant to the point of hypergamy vs non hypergamy nobody said men didn't also try and optimize
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 05:28 PM
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That's how a relationship BEGINS I'm speaking to how it is best maintained
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 05:27 PM
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It was common enough for them to feel the need to create a saying to encapsulate the meaning
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 04:58 PM
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They don't have access to every human in the world simultaneously they go for the best of what they have access to. It's about varying access
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 04:17 PM
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It could be that there is a circular relationship between these things. If a women never has sex if they are not in the mood, the man will eventually put in less effort as a result. If she has sex when she hasn't been wooed for 16 hours straight and worshipped (the horror I know) then the man will pay more attention to her Women are putting the cart before the horse here. Using sex to get attention will be much more effective than using the lack of sex as a punishment
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 04:09 PM
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This would still imply she believes she deserves better and wants another man, evert if there is a gap of time where she pretends to be single
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 03:55 PM
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It is so common trp coined a phrase to sum it up She's not yours it's just your turn
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 03:45 PM
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Yeah go hard or go home
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 12:54 AM
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It's hard to get more chill than simply saying anecdotes are inferior to statistics
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 08:45 PM
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I mean it says it "may" result in a permanent ban which implies its discretionary. It reads like schadenfreude on your part. I don't even know what that is supposed to mean. I'm enjoying others suffering via this comment? You have to think to yourself if a reddit admin saw this, would they remove it? I think more accurately it would be could they feasibly make some contrivance to have the excuse to give you a warning. So anything even the least bit controversial. Other subs don't even have the b…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 08:18 PM
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Yeah have fun getting in fights, aka getting your faces pounded in, and having men not help. I still don't see how that's promoting violence. I can see why it would trigger women, but triggering someone isn't against the rules. Until it is I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 06:32 PM
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It would seem so, which leads to women just spamming the report button, which should be against the rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 06:26 PM
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Just got temp banned for promoting violence for saying men don't step in to stop fights between women because women have said they don't need men anymore. Somehow that's promoting violence. When I asked why, they said "it seems gleeful" when I pointed out that it was not gleeful they claimed they have to, for some reason, make judgement calls on the underlying motivation behind things because people don't always explicitly break the rules. It's like, so the rule is, don't promote violence, and e…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 06:13 PM
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Who is he to tell an adult how to live her life?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 01:01 PM
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The rock.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 07:26 PM
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I don't think it's accurate to suggest there are more works of art featuring the female body vs male
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 07:22 PM
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And that is their choice as a big girl, so if you're insecure about it, don't do it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 02:05 PM
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But she got paid in the form of room and board for that job?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 02:03 PM
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It also works the other way though, your partner's time is precious so don't waste it. It's odd how women can get just almost to that realization and stop just shy of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 01:54 PM
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Not nearly enough
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 04:14 AM
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Yeah but you implied of you can't buy it for 50 it isn't worth 50 but the reality is if you can't buy it for 50 the seller could just be delusional
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 04:05 AM
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Just because you are slap a million dollar price tag on a used car doesn't mean it's worth a million
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 03:57 AM
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Feminism is the apple
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 10:18 PM
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Bro you're triggered by biology lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 07:26 PM
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Bro your triggered by biology
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 07:20 PM
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That's not what subservient means according to your definition but yeah we might just be fighting over semantics
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 04:31 PM
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Women weren't subservient strictly speaking there are very few cultures where women were literally not allowed to disagree. Women were allowed to express dissatisfaction that's the only reason they ever made any social changes, because they were allowed to talk and men listened
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 01:05 AM
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But being a doctor/poet/politician/lawyer might be preferable to being a doctor's wife for a lot of women Yes and to the men doing the shit jobs too! You seem to just have weird circular logic where women were subservient simply because they couldn't have cozy non physically demanding jobs but the 99% of men aren't subservient because of the same logic because reasons. No amount of trying to break your nonsense points down to point out how this thinking fails even makes a Crack in the weird illo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 08:09 PM
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Right but the majority of work until and even at the beginnings of the industrial revolution was back breaking physically demanding work which you just agreed women did not want to do. Yeah women wanted to be doctors and cozy jobs, so did men. Only a fraction of the population of men got these jobs so that wasn't a realistic proposition for 99% of men and 100% of women. That's not subservience that's reality
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 06:58 PM
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I mean, even if he agrees with her that it makes sense for her to stay at home, it is still subservient for him to go out of his way on order for her to get her ideal life. And I'd argue most stay at home wives enjoyed the fact they didn't have to do terrible hard labor like men did. If you have any evidence from any point in history of women demanding men to let them dig ditches and plow fields please enlighten me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 06:36 PM
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Because your focused on trying to tie this to a specific time period rather than the simple concept. Why does it matter the EXACT time period? Are you disagreeing that the scenario I am referring to ever existed? That is the only logical reason to demand an exact time period, but you don't seem to be doing that. What you seem to be doing is trying to flex some sort of historical knowledge which is not relevant here. I get it, you think you have a lot of historical knowledge good for you. I'm not…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 05:57 PM
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