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I think this is sarcasm? But I’m serious, societal pressures and stereotypes affect perceived level of attractiveness, especially when we generalize. Social phenomena will be affected by social perceptions, they can be affected by biology too, but definitely by social perceptions and stereotypes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 05:27 AM
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Yet again, even if the article speculated that, hypergamy is speculation
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 09:00 PM
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That’s a completely different matter than attractiveness, as it applies generally to men and women. However, amount of sexual activity can also be affected by societal pressures, which is why the age at which people start masturbating and/or lose their virginities can vary from culture to culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 07:47 PM
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Agreed, it’s weird to me. Even traditional women deserve to be treated with respect and as full human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 07:32 PM
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Yes, agreed. But it isn’t the biggest issue. Both people’s problems are both people’s problems. I was providing another potential viewpoint on the issue, I was never saying one issue is the biggest issue because I think that’s subjective and besides the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 07:31 PM
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Thanks for clarifying. I don’t think the study says that the decline in sexual desire is catastrophic, and it’s certainly not suggesting that there are plenty of relationships with “no” problems that fall apart because a woman’s sexual desire declines. The study definitely illustrates that there’s a fairly prevalent problem, but it suggests looking at ways to solve and prevent this. In addition, while neither the article or anything else I’ve seen in this thread contains anything but speculation…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 07:25 PM
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True that and woohoo
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 07:12 PM
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Well, if the husband’s perspective is that the biggest issue is x, that’s different from saying it’s the biggest issue to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 07:11 PM
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In a relationship, both perspectives need to be considered.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 06:49 PM
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It is probably something that has to be carefully navigated and leads to some arguments. It probably requires a lot of communication. As to how much of a given resource each partner can provide, an imbalance there doesn’t necessitate separation. It’s more about how they match each other’s needs. A partner who is bad at providing emotionally is a good match for someone who is emotionally independent or closed off. But if it’s a situation where one partner is sacrificing a lot to meet the other’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 06:48 PM
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First, all relationships have problems. Second, this is my bad, but I missed that we were talking about a study. Can you provide it? Third, from what you’re saying, the study seems to simply say that if sexual desire drops, the relationship becomes less satisfying, which seems to me like common sense and not a solid foundation for claiming that women are hypergamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 06:42 PM
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I agree with what you’re saying. I’m only replying to add more nuance. Instead of splitting the financial responsibilities it may be more fruitful for both partners to split the labor responsibilities. It’s pretty common that one partner has a higher paying career than the other, but if they’re both working full time, then they should do the same amount of housework, regardless. Some couples achieve a just relationship that puts the man and woman in equal footing without having them each do equa…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 06:12 PM
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It’s like the girl equivalent of porn
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 06:00 PM
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It can be unbelievable that people would change as much as they do, but I see it as embodying a side of yourself that you’ve suppressed for many years and shedding inaccuracies that you’ve constructed.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:56 PM
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Part of this phenomenon is nature, part of it is socially constructed. If men are portrayed in society as horny pursuers, and women are portrayed as sexually conservative, this will lead to the same phenomenon in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:53 PM
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Could be because of the possible implications of a compliment depending on who it is coming from. If a woman compliments a guy’s muscles, that is very likely to come across as flirting, you could probably even get reported for that for sexual harrassment in some cases. Men complimenting men is less likely to be seen as flirty or creepy. Same as how women compliment another woman on her blouse, but men are less likely to unless they are flirting.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:50 PM
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Again, I don’t think that a drop in sexual desire preceding marital problems is a clear-cut indication the woman is making up problems. First of all, if part of the reason she was in the relationship was sex and that goes away, she simply has less reason to be in the relationship. Perhaps this makes it harder to accept problems that were already there. If you will pay a dollar for a large fry and suddenly they’re charging a dollar for a medium fry, it might no longer be something you’re willing …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:46 PM
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I think you brushed on one of many examples of redpill giving unsound advice on how to court women. Part of their failure is due to their generalizing all men and all women. How fast or slow you move towards sex, and how you do it, says a lot about you or what you’re looking for. Different women will interpret that as either goid or bad depending on who they are and what they’re looking for. An example of a woman who likes sex and disagrees with waiting until marriage will maybe view moving fast…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:38 PM
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A quantification of Objective physical attractiveness seems as scientifically achievable as a time machine. Attractiveness is defined differently by every human being, fluid within an individual, and influenced by a complex mix of society and biology. As for a society that had precise specifications for what was beautiful or aesthetic and what was not, the Ancient Greeks saw a well- proportioned, muscular young man as the paradigm, and described women as physically deformed versions of men. So w…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:32 PM
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Whose sexual desire? I am slightly confused. If you’re saying that sex kept the couple together until they grew older and less interested in sex, that could be because there are real issues (related to both partners) that were being overlooked or accepted because of the positive sexual relationship. Not necessarily indicative that women are “hypergamous” or men are “betas”
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:25 PM
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I always insist.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:22 PM
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Unless you have evidence that that is the biggest source of conflict, it may just be the one that seems the most logical in your mind, which is not the same as it being true.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:21 PM
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In my opinion, as someone who is somewhat familiar with what goes on in those circles, it shouldn’t be the main focus of feminism. First of all, while some of the hateful rhetoric towards men is sincere, and is misguided, it’s more nuanced than that, which I expect is probably missed by people unfamiliar with the movement, especially redpilllers. First, There is a meme culture within feminism that features comments that are hateful towards men. It’s very prevalent in TikTok and maybe Twitter (no…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:20 PM
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Well, part of love (and politeness, including among people who are going out to eat but not on a date) can include paying for that person or sacrificing for them. Both sides should offer to pay the whole meal, if they are financially equal individuals. So it’s possible, based on other context, that the woman would be coming from that angle, where you pay for someone because you value them as a person, not because you’re the man and they’re the woman. And that’s what I’m saying is the smartest wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 04:58 PM
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Agreed. These two sentences aren’t at face value related, but I added this stat to illustrate the nuance of DV. It’s fairly recognized as true that men are taken less seriously when they are the victims of DV, because they are seen as stronger or aggressive by nature, but i don’t know if it’s accurate to say that women are less tolerant of bad behavior. If women get divorces because of DV at higher rates than men, it could very well be because of the fact that women get injured by their partners…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 04:52 PM
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Marital satisfaction being high for a period of time based on other traits, and then dropping off when the seriousness of “til death” with a partner who doesn’t make you come really hits, makes a lot of sense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 04:43 PM
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Women are each different people and so you absolutely should expect to learn new things every time you meet a new one. Under no circumstances is it the new girl’s problem if you are trying to understand her based solely on your experiences with other women. There’s no reason to expect one woman to function or act like other women you’ve encountered because we’re all individuals. Get to know a woman and pay attention to her as an individual. Using information about Beth is going to be more accura…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 09:51 AM
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A lot of people would still be able to tell what sex everybody is, or at least guess. And gender would definitely become identifiable, so you’d be able to tell someone acts masculine, you just wouldn’t know if they were a masculine male or female. If you don’t believe me, go read huckleberry Finn.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 09:36 AM
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Red pill sees the differences between the sexes as rigid and comprehensible. They constantly make connections between some difference they’ve noticed and some part of that gender’s nature that must explain that difference. It is so rampant and so casual and so uninformed that it is wildly inaccurate. So men will see men cheating as due to men’s natural horniness, and they’ll see women cheating as due to women’s natural “hypergamy,” and they won’t see the fact that cheating is endemic to both men…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 09:33 AM
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It’s interesting that a lot of men are saying that if the woman expects you to pay she’s a gold digger and not worth the money. I will say that when it comes time to pay the check I’m less concerned about whether or not I’m going to ultimately pay it or part of it and more concerned with how the conversation is going to go down. I don’t consider it to be “losing” if I end up paying the Bill or if the guy ends up paying the whole thing, I consider it “losing” if the conversation about it gets awk…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 09:17 AM
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Not entirely sure what you were saying there but you got at my personal opinion on this. When I’m trying to get you to let me pay or split the check, I partially feel like I’m trying to get you to acknowledge me as an equal. That’s just one layer of the whole exchange. I’m perfectly aware at the same time that you’re trying to be nice. But if someone is too dismissive of my effort to pay, or if they say they have to pay because they’re the guy, or something like that, it irks me, because I perso…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 09:06 AM
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I find real dating to be not reflective of this. People have types. (at least as a woman with female friends I can attest that women have types.) Certain physical characteristics and mannerisms catch some people’s eye in a positive manner even if those traits aren’t universally viewed as positive by all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 08:57 AM
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If women are more serially monogamous than men, one possible explanation is the fact that women tend to orgasm less. I am merely speculating here, but maybe it’s easier for a man to settle or maintain a sexual attraction if he is still getting off, whereas, if you’re not getting off, you’re more likely to feel something needs to change. And women tend to be the ones to have more issues orgasming. Maybe this applies to some couples and not others?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 08:53 AM
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There are probably other reasons as well. Men are the perpetrators of DV at higher rates than women (NCADV 1 in 7 women and 1 in 25 men have been injured by an intimate partner) which would lead to more women filing for divorce. Women also tend to get married younger than men. IME a number of women report that men’s expectations for the relationship change drastically once they are married. And if what people are saying is true, that men are more likely to cheat at a certain age, then that could…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 08:48 AM
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One option that is really nice but not an option for a lot of people nowadays is taking only a few years off. One parent gets maternity/paternity leave for up to 3 years. Or, one parent takes a sabbatical to study at the same time their kids are young. These options aren’t always paid, but they are more temporary and reversible than quitting your job. My parents both took years off while us kids were young and it was super helpful, I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 08:00 AM
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And the husband also tends to forget that being a SAHM is a sacrifice in and of itself, it’s just a different one than the one he makes. Being a SAHM is giving up your financial independence, and your career. If, in the uncertain future, you are going to return to the working world, you’re going to have much fewer prospects because you’ve been out of the job market for so long. It’s also not very dignifying to be a SAHM, same goes for copper miners, I’m sure. I think another reason relationships…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 07:55 AM
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Natural scent is really appealing and a turn on for some people. It depends on the guy and depends on the girl so I wouldn’t say it’s overall advisable to like not shower or something, because guys do stink, but some of them have this musky smell when you sit close to them or if you’re making out with them. It’s mesmerizing. I would say one hundred percent practice hood grooming, but maybe don’t wash behind the ears or something, so you have some of those natural pheromones still. This is probab…
/r/seduction09/02/21 02:14 AM
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