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Because there’s a difference between being 50/50 and being a rigid dickhead about it. The men I know have no reason to lie to me. Although I’m blue collar, so the majority of the men I work with are the providers, some are married to nurses, doctors, lawyers, engineers, etc. They split 50/50. But they don’t tally every single little thing. Again, I’m saying reasonable people. The equivalent toxicity would be if you’re the provider, and your s/o who works part time refuses to ever help with any b…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:25 AM
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Being 50/50 isn’t the issue. It’s the combination of being vehemently (very important distinction) 50/50 AND wanting children. Most 50/50 guys I know don’t also expect kids and the burden to still be 50/50. Being vehemently 50/50 down to nickel and dimeing is as toxic as me being established as the breadwinner, and my wife controlling the majority of the money just because we agreed that I’d “provide”. At the end of the day, neither being 50/50 or having a designated breadwinner are wrong or bad…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:10 AM
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We just treat women we have zero interest in like we treat men that we have zero interest in. The problem with you being a woman is that you’re an active obstacle for us getting to women we do have an interest in. We can’t just hang out with you in public like a guy friend without being assumed taken. So you’ve got more going against you than a man. You’re living the life of an average dude though more or less.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:44 AM
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This use of the word “intimidated” always irks me. No, men aren’t generally intimidated by successful women. It’s simply a factor that makes a relationship a bad bet. Men are used to be valued by what we can provide. From the day we’re seen as adults, unconditional love is no longer a thing except for maybe our parents. We’re inherently replaceable. Getting with a women who keeps us around on a whim (I don’t need no man) is a bad bet to invest your life in, when you know most women are looking f…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 06:53 AM
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I agree with you. And if ever there comes a solution that isn’t an authoritarian surveillance state, I’m 100% down to advocate for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 01:38 PM
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Nothing you do will ever guarantee a certain result. That’s life. Ask the instructor to walk you to your car. We’re literally in the business of self defense. No martial artist worth their salt will send a woman into a dark parking lot by themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 01:15 PM
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Men can’t be controlled. People in general, can’t be controlled. If we could do that, we’d have eliminated crime. I’m not telling anyone to control women. I’m saying the only person you can rely on is yourself. Self-control is a virtue that extends well past personal safety. If I have daughters, I could hunt down any man that harmed them. But what does that do for them? The damage is done. The trauma is there, assuming they make it out of a situation alive. I might feel better. But she won’t. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 01:12 PM
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I meant more as a detriment to yourself more than society. You could argue that everyone being too socially anxious to interact makes society worse. But that goes for men and women for different reasons. It’s a detriment to yourself because on one end of the spectrum, you act unsafely. On the other end of the spectrum, you miss out on living life because you’re actively avoiding 50% of the population at all costs.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 12:53 PM
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You’re implying that eliminating evil is possible. It isn’t. Even in the story of creation, we didn’t make it past 4 people without a murderer. These good men you know didn’t have to be convinced to be good. And asking every single member of society to rise above and “just be good” is unfortunately a pipe dream.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 12:50 PM
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It is a survival instinct. It’s also a detriment when it goes overboard like literally every other thing we feel. As someone who’s been in and out of multiple martial and things “geared towards men”, I’ve never seen women in general be made to feel unwelcome. I’ve seen a couple of creepers get kicked out. But that feels like the appropriate course of action. I’ve seen many women train and do well. I do not know where you’re getting your info. But it’s incorrect. I don’t touch on close friends an…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 12:23 PM
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I don’t mean just that topic. If I wanted to, I could argue all day on this sub about everything. I disagree with the neo-redpillers, the black pillers, the blue pillers, the purple pillers, and plenty of others about many things.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 10:47 AM
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I could literally argue with almost every post in this sub. That’s not how I’m gonna spend my time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 09:58 AM
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Feel free to link me into the posts
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 09:38 AM
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Eh, debatable tbh. Most of the stories of false accusations I head haven’t come from someone they actually slept. I have heard if from a couple of guys who’s ex was trying to take the kids away. But if you already have kids with them, you already fucked up a bit too hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 09:38 AM
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My response is in the post you didn’t read.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 09:09 AM
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People whining about safety precautions don’t deserve consideration.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 08:33 AM
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I think it’s the perception of effort to make something happen to you. I’ve always been extremely cautious of false allegations because there’s literally nothing I can do about. Nothing I can ever do can prevent someone with a grudge from remotely filing a report, financially ruining you, and ruining your career. Getting mugged or a physical danger, I’ve at least got the option to defend myself. False allegations, unless you’re rich enough to hire a good lawyer, you’re kinda just fucked, and the…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 08:33 AM
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I understand it fine. Which is why this is directed at women. The ones with risk aversion and prey mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 06:12 AM
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Dating guidelines and actual relationship advice aren’t the same thing. Yes I can. Redpill grifters and chronically online chips aren’t the same as the guys that were preaching it as a guideline before it got a label slapped on it, like Kevin Samuels (RIP). I made a post asking for a separation of redpill and neo redpill because they’ve become too different, and got turned down. Straight men that are putting in all this effort to attract women aren’t looking for the romantic affections of other …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 01:35 PM
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Heavy on the “certain level”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 01:20 PM
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Another fundamental mischaracterization/misunderstanding of TRP at its core. RP is literally just seeing how people act, and adjusting accordingly. You’ll see grifters online over analyzing it and making content out of it because that’s their cash cow. The reason a large section of the discussion revolves around power and male approval, is because women date across and up social hierarchies. That’s it. You have to build yourself into someone worth dating before you even start trying to actually …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 12:45 PM
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I didn’t know it was so intrusive to say not to go out and get sloshed around nothing but strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 09:16 PM
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Anything is basic once you learn and implement it. I very seriously doubt your bff Becky is going to hurt you. Calm down.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 09:09 PM
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I never said their survival instincts were worse than men’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 09:07 PM
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Sharing your location when meeting strangers is incredibly basic. Forgoing risky activities is also incredibly basic. I never said to move just so you can carry a gun. I said carry one if you’re allowed.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 09:05 PM
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The biggest hurdle I’ve seen is just being willing to hurt someone. Women just have a tendency to get stuck on that. But I’ve known a couple that got pushed a little too far in a compromising position in a car and just elbowed the guy in the nose and hopped out. The hardest part is just being willing. My recommendation of styles is always going to be Muay Thai or an old school style of traditional taekwondo or karate. The newer sport centric styles don’t really teach you how to fight for your li…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 08:59 PM
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Yes, if you escalate to shooting an intimate partner, there is a solid chance that will backfire. Doesn’t matter what gender you are. As far as defending your home, I can’t speak for every state. But you’ll do fine in Texas. I feel like the inconsistency is the lack of will to take action in the first place. But I’m not here for a gun debate. I’m aware. Which means the escalation in rates is probably still undershooting the actual numbers of crimes. Anyone that gets a license to carry or trainin…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 08:31 PM
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You’re talking about gun reform. I’m talking about working within the rules of the society in which you live. No, men generally do not have a fear and anxiety for their personal safety around women. Even if they should sometimes, they don’t. Look up the rape and sexual assault stats over there over the last decade or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 08:10 PM
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Everything I stated are basic precautions. They 100% have an impact. You just won’t ever find a stat on it because preventative measures are too difficult to track the success of. If someone is being critical of basic safety, as stated in the OP 🚩 🚩🚩
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 08:07 PM
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Sorry, skill issue. I’ve had plenty of conversations (and more) with women weary of me at first. I know for a fact that it’s possible at a minimum.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 08:03 PM
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I’m not talking about men because they’re not the ones complaining about how they can’t do xyz because of fear and anxiety. I don’t care about men in this scenario. We weigh risks and take them happily all the time. Informed risk isn’t the same as ignorance. My mistake. I’m in the U.S. yes I’m talking about carrying here, obviously. There’s also no stats to how often guns have been used as a deterrent to crime. There’s no downside to having one and knowing how to use it. Other countries aren’t m…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 07:40 PM
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Not freely handing out trust =/= paranoia/neuroticism/misandry. That being said, if you can’t simultaneously be safe, social, and polite, that’s something you should work on.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 07:30 PM
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Not relevant to the discussion fam. I do not care.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 07:25 PM
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Again, I’ve extended my hand to pull female friends out of that situation three times in my life and was denied every time. Another thing I see often is a woman successfully get away from an abuser, then go BACK to the motherfucker. Nah, I’m not delusional. I’m just real. It may not be easy, but it is simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 07:24 PM
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And again, I didn’t disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 07:22 PM
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If that’s true then why are you listening to them whine? I didn’t bring them up. I don’t care about other men’s opinions. Why should you? They’re not the ones in charge of your safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 07:21 PM
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I’m more happy to take the risk in the U.S. than say, South America. There is a risk/reward calculation going on up there somewhere lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 07:18 PM
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Whatever you wanna think
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 07:17 PM
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Women are more risk averse. If they know there’s a risk, they usually avoid it. Men like to show off. They see a risk, they’ll charge it for funsies. Source? Living life and knowing lots of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 07:16 PM
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By all means.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 07:14 PM
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Men take risky jobs because they pay well. Pretty simple. I wasn’t comparing men to women. Men just aren’t the ones constantly acting fearful and anxious for existing. Not really relevant to my point. Also not really relevant to my point. If guns are allowed, you should have one, full stop. If they’re not allowed, you should have the next best thing available. Women need an equalizer as much as possible. I date who matches me or who I run into. I’m a guy. I don’t have the luxury of 1000 matches …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 07:14 PM
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If you can’t be safe, social, and kind within reason, that’s a skill issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 07:08 PM
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For sure. I’d argue there’s a difference between knowing better and doing something anyway, and sheer ignorance. But that’s neither here nor there.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 07:07 PM
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It’s easy to make excuses too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 07:05 PM
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Yup. And yet women are more fearful and anxious literally all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 07:04 PM
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Men aren’t typically complaining about anxiety and fear of existing in society. When they start, I’ll address it. It’s not bait. I’m actually quite passionate about personal safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 07:03 PM
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I’d say springing BDSM on someone without warning is one of the bigger red flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 07:02 PM
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I’ve never met a man that needed the reminder tbh. Most of us leave the house knowing there’s a 50/50 chance we’re getting stabbed if we go to a stranger woman’s house/apartment. I don’t bother reminding my male friends because as long as the other side of that 50/50 is getting laid, that’s a risk most of us are taking.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 07:00 PM
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No one should “trust” anyone when safety becomes a concern.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 06:57 PM
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Dumbest shit I’ve ever heard. You’re not supposed to announce your exit to a dangerous individual. If you need protection while collecting your things, there are services for that. Many women don’t even attempt to leave. I’ve actively volunteered to help on three separate occasions. I was denied. Even given the opportunity, many of y’all will stay.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 06:55 PM
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Couldn’t agree more
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 06:53 PM
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Not leaving a guy that beats you is still bad survival instincts. The murders don’t usually just pop up out of nowhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 06:51 PM
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Doesn't matter whether it's small to you. It's objectively a small minority. At least in the west. Believe whatever you like.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:06 PM
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Sure. Some will. But those guys were never going to understand anyway. They're pieces of shit no matter what you do. Why are you changing tactics to win them over? Does that make it worth alienating those of us with logic and understanding?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:54 PM
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Because y'all say stupid things like “I choose the bear” rather than just explaining your fear. It's inflammatory for the sake of it. It doesn't come off like “My experiences and fears are so severe, that I'd rather risk a wild animal than a man.” it comes of as “I’m a dumbass that doesn't know anything about bears” it's almost always more irritating and provocative than it is insightful.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:34 PM
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I understand the women that say these things live their lives with fear and anxiety. Many times, that’s due to traumatic past experiences. I get that. A more accurate title would be “Men have no sympathy for women who complain, but do nothing.” That's probably true. Because if you're asking for help or ways to take steps forward, men are right there. We only have so much sympathy for fear and anxiety over things that are out of our hands. And that's generally reserved for the women in our lives.…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:13 PM
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Well you see there’s your problem. All men have the capacity to be dangerous. Wishing for that to not be the case will do absolutely nothing. “Men” though, aren’t typically dangerous. A small percent are. I’m sympathetic to the genuine plights of women. I’m sympathetic to the fact that you’re the weaker sex, and as a result, have to take extra precautions in day to day life. And if we were discussing precautions and how we could teach and make them better, I’m all on board. The problem is that y…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:05 PM
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I understand it because none of it is an original thought. It’s nothing we haven’t seen and thought through before.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 11:55 AM
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Just say you want men to coddle you and be done with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 11:26 AM
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I ain’t reading all that. But I skimmed. Can’t speak for all men. But my sympathy is reserved for rational concerns. Man vs bear debate? Irrational. Also realized how many people don’t know shit about bears. Women being blamed for their own assault? Depends. People often conflate “fault” and “responsibility”. It’s never a victim’s fault they’re attacked. Everyone’s personal safety is their own responsibility. That’s generally where the friction is in these debates. But to claim the male perpetra…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 11:02 AM
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I’m aware. That’s not my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 01:08 PM
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Oooooook
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 12:56 PM
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Because it feels pointless for a lot of guys. A lack of affection from others dulls the joy in life when you’re starving for connection. But you can believe whatever you like I suppose. I mean, all it takes is observing when men have done anything for all of human history. But it’s whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 12:42 PM
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I didn’t say I wanted anything. I’m just stating the facts. Most men need a purpose to stay happy and productive. That’s what keeps society moving. If you have no wife, no kids, barely spend any money, and don’t find hobbies fulfilling, you start asking “why am I doing this? Nobody cares about me or what I’m doing anyway.” And that happening on a large scale is gonna be a problem. I’m not saying anything can or should be done about it. I’m saying that’s just the way it is. And you’re never going…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 12:34 PM
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I don’t disagree. Policies that left about 30 million men forever alone and probably deeply unhappy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 12:27 PM
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I don’t disagree with that. Just keep in mind, the miserable ones are probably just at home lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 12:12 PM
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That’s cool unless you’re anything other than Muslim.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 12:10 PM
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Extinct? No. Extreme economic turmoil? That’s still on the board.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 12:09 PM
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I don’t think any country was consciously founded out it. It was just the way things were for people to survive. Relationships and communities went from a necessity to a neglected luxury. And that’s not good for society.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 12:07 PM
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Still have to wait for that to pan out. The one child policy didn’t end that long ago. A LOT of little girls were abandoned and adopted out overseas. With a population as lopsided male as they’ve gotten, that still has time to go badly. It’s only a 1% difference. But 1% of China’s population is still a very large and possibly problematic number.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 12:05 PM
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By all means, list off some suggestions. I’m sure the hopeless among us may take you up on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 11:58 AM
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I know. When society falls apart far enough, we’ll probably see a radical swing in the opposite direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 11:56 AM
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There isn’t a good solution. We either do things for the good of the collective or the good of the individual. We’ve moved towards the good of the individual. Therefore the collective (society) will suffer for it. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 11:50 AM
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Gonna be interesting to see how the next decade or so pans out.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 11:41 AM
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The problem is women’s utter lack of confidence in general. I’ve been on both sides of the spectrum. But you can be as confident as you want as a man. Doesn’t do much good when all the women are panicky and shrink away from social contact.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 06:22 PM
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Because they’re not as empathetic as they think and don’t wanna do a cycle of test to find out I guess. Idk.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 01:20 AM
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Biology. Men are driven by testosterone, and it’s a hell of a drug.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 06:03 PM
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I little bit of everything. I occasionally learn something. Sometimes I play devil’s advocate. Sometimes I’m just fascinated by how stupid some people’s thought processes are.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 12:43 PM
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At 20 people left on earth, no one morally has autonomy. If the men were refusing the women, most pragmatists would say the same both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 12:24 PM
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Yeah, but that’s effort. We’re not all out here actively pursuing broke women. The RP stance of “Men would date a barista” is to contrast how much wider our dating pool is than women’s. A woman’s income isn’t a pro or a con. It’s a net neutral that just doesn’t matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:34 AM
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Depends on the year. If I wanna chill and take half the year off, $60k-$70k. If I want to travel and work the whole year, something to the tune of $160k+.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:01 AM
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Eh, more reasons for that than a lack of attraction. Proximity creates opportunity and attraction on the woman’s end. Unless you’re a really good looking guy, that’s going to be your most reliable method of dating compared to apps or cold approaches. I’m personally not even going to attempt to talk to a woman that looks young, and works somewhere they might be 16. But if I started a conversation somewhere else with a woman and she told me she’s a cashier, I wouldn’t particularly care.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 06:30 AM
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I mean, likewise. So fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 06:27 AM
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Proximity. Men tend to date the women around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 04:53 AM
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I couldn’t care less about a woman’s career as long as she’s good to me tbh. The closest I’ll admit is that I prefer they have good spending habits. Not being wasteful is more important than making a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 04:51 AM
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Because our criteria is different. If I date a hot barista that treats me well, from my pov, I’m dating up. From her pov, she’s dating up because I’m tall, hopefully good looking to har, and financially stable.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 02:46 AM
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That’s not social conditioning. That’s social conditions allowing for us to keep kids from working and support them. Back then, you were working once you were old enough. Whether it was paper routes, mines, or farms. Has nothing to do with how much we valued our children; and everything to do with surviving the circumstances. Men are walking past strangers getting assaulted because everyone will shoot you. Again, survival. 30+ years ago when people weren’t so trigger happy over everything, it wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 10:09 PM
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That’s not social conditioning. One is the pain of loss that we’ve all felt, and can’t do anything about. The other shows cowardice, unreliability, and weakness. Context frames your actions and expressions. If I smile and laugh while I’m out with friends, that’s perfectly normal. If I smile and laugh while I’m stabbing someone, it’s not social conditioning to judge me as a psychopath. That’s just inherent human judgement for your own survival.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 09:25 PM
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This is such a tired rhetoric. Yes, men like whores. No, men don’t want to marry or necessarily respect whores. What makes a good whore and what makes a good wife/mother do not generally coincide. “Men want all women to blah blah blah” no we don’t. We don’t care. Some women are gonna be whores no matter what just like some women are going to be more committed and traditional no matter what. We just don’t want the majority of women to be whores because it makes it hard to find a partner. It’s dis…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 08:31 PM
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I like how being a mom for you seems to stop around 3 years old lol. Try comparing to fully functional human, like we are for the majority of childhood/teen years in you want to make a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 07:51 PM
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Well I don’t think all women are born that way. Just many. I also think there’s a difference between attraction/repulsion to things you can change and things you can’t. Crying is a behavior. Btw, it’d be very difficult to create sexual dimorphism is a behavior, being that tears serve a function too. So as long as women are crying, men are too, even at the extreme. Your examples about racism and sexism don’t really track here. Those stem from tribalism. Being strange and different. Everyone that’…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 03:37 AM
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It’s not an assumption. It’s an observation. Adult men that I’ve known in my life, of which I’ve known many. The guys that are very expressive and open are also usually the impulsive ones too. The ones that say “Yeah, I was a real fuckup in my 20’s”. You want as example of extreme emotional expression, look at prison. Lots of expressive men in there. A lot that try to be stoic and fail too. The next “leap” isn’t because “some people have a belief”. It’s because up to this point in history, where…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 09:22 PM
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I get what you’re saying. What I’m saying is that those are the trends. Trends drive attraction because you have to get to know someone to see if they’re an exception. A guy can be emotionally open without being a mess. But a guy that’s an emotional mess is usually open because they can’t hide it. If you get involved with a guy that’s open right off the bad, the deeper you dig, you’re likely to found out he’s a mess. A guy can be emotionally composed without being emotionally unavailable. But if…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 08:48 PM
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I’ve never seen that happen. Not saying it doesn’t. But what I’ve seen is people consciously changing their opinion of what’s considered good or bad. But they’ve admitted, at least to me, that they’re still unattracted to those things. They just kinda compartmentalize and focus extra hard on the things they like. I do believe attraction is mostly genetic, partially learned.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 08:38 PM
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OP is correct though to a degree. Most men don’t just do away with emotional vulnerability. My parents never gave me the “man up, stop crying” treatment. I learned it the hard way, mostly interacting with women. My argument in favor of biology is evolution. Emotional vulnerability isn’t wrong, but gets conflated with weakness and emotional expression. Those things can put you in danger. It stands to reason that an emotionally composed partner is a safe bet in the long term. That’s just not a swi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 08:30 PM
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And why is it that we’re convinced that women see emotionally vulnerable men as less attractive? Is attraction that easily malleable? Is there a reason we attribute it to “patriarchy” rather than natural selection? I only focus on women here because if emotional vulnerability was suddenly an attractive winning strategy, men would probably do a 180°.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 07:53 PM
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Explain how that’s the patriarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 07:43 PM
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Explain step by step why you say this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 07:41 PM
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I disagree. I listened to women for my teen years and first few of my adult years, and got nowhere. Took until 22 or 23 for that to set in. I'm 30 now, and have had a significantly better time with women, approaching them based on how I know they act vs what they say. Based on my results, you won't change my mind. You seem to have this idea that I'm some dumb white man that can't comprehend emotions and have no empathy. The truth couldn't be farther. I don't have to learn to actively listen, emp…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 06:48 PM
19

Best one I got was “be approachable” as if women are going to be approaching me lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 06:02 PM
2

I never saw “hyperbole” written out until I was an adult lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 06:00 PM
2

Stop watching RP grifters preying on lonely men. Go watch some old Kevin Samuels videos or something pre Fresh & Fit. Because they're the ones that really got momentum on ruining the whole philosophy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 05:57 PM
1

Idk if it's a skill issue or not. If you're consistently going to be boring, and put in zero effort, that I have to make up for, I'm getting mine and moving on 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 05:40 PM
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There are a lot of points here. But I don't feel like multiple paragraphs. So I'm just gonna hit the premise. The theory of RP is about responding to actions, not words. RP men don't listen to women because it doesn't yield results. Women consistently say one thing and do another all the time. Most of us that were RP before they slapped a label on it, learned it because we took our female friends’ advice logically thinking “Well women know what women want. I should just ask them.” and got advice…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 05:35 PM
0

The orgasm gap is just an effort gap. Never been with a woman that gave me some effort, feedback, and enthusiasm and didn’t orgasm. Been with plenty that just starfished and didn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 08:19 PM
3

Congrats, that is the most pedantic argument I’ve heard on this sub in the entire time I’ve been here. Just do me a favor, google “what’s the word for gender equality”, read it, leave me alone, and quit wasting my time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 06:46 PM
2

Are you seriously linking this to argue that there’s an effective difference difference between “equality between genders” and “equality among all people”?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 06:36 PM
3

I know words have meanings. I’m saying your definitions aren’t correct, and explaining why.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:01 PM
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Lol I have no idea what you’re even talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:19 PM
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Because in about 15-20 years it’s going to be everyone’s problem. But you’ve got your mind made up. So idk why you’re asking, honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 10:58 AM
2

I mean, not totally wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 10:28 AM
5

Feminism is inherently biased towards women in philosophy and in practice. It’s not about equality for both genders. It’s about raising women to equal standing with men, or exceeding it. That’s why you will never see feminists turn around and shift the scales back where women are inherently advantaged. They’ll pass the buck off and blame it on men in some way, while still elevating women. Egalitarianism is truly seeking systemic equality among everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 05:24 AM
5

For the record, if your suggestion is social skills, the type of guy that needs that advice is going to need advice on how to actually practice and refine social skills. Most don’t know how to even make friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 12:55 AM
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Equality between genders is egalitarianism. Feminism by definition is to push for women to have the same rights as men at a minimum. Many times exceeding the rights and privileges of men. Neither of these factor in feeling. You can still despise men and be a feminist without breaking any of the fundamentals of the ideology. You can even be sexist to a degree as far as just disliking one group or the other and still be egalitarian, so long as you can shelve your feelings as to not affect your act…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 05:22 AM
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The number one thing women (and this kind of goes for men to) need to do is be more approachable in life. Everyone, and I do mean EVERYONE seems allergic to human interaction outside of “traditionally social” settings. Women have been telling men to quit talking to them for over a decade. That’s actually women’s collective fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:56 AM
1

I don’t need a class to see yours. But you don’t see me taking jabs at you for it. Just shows you didn’t post anything in good faith. You just want to rage bait.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 07:18 PM
1

Ah yes. I’m sure you know my life story and have it all figured out.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 06:01 PM
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Dating for marriage, and indiscriminately dating and fucking around aren’t the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 05:30 PM
1

I do about half that. As for what I’m doing, working 10-12 hours a day, so she doesn’t have to. I want a partner that covers what I can’t or don’t have time for. Not someone that overlaps and does the same as me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 05:28 PM
1

I mean, yeah. A bunch of guys with dating experience coming to the same general conclusions using pattern recognition is exactly what it was. Most classical RP guys were that way before a label got slapped on it. I don’t identify with redpill grifters. I even requested a different label to differentiate between classical Kevin Samuels era RP from the Fresh&Fit and beyond bullshit. I was ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 03:38 PM
2

I’m responding to you. How do you define life experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 02:26 PM
1

Wild
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 02:25 PM
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I never claimed they weren’t. I said they don’t want to. I work. I don’t want to. None of us want to. Most people hate their jobs and getting up for work every day. And if they get an out to quit or reduce to part time, they’ll take it. They ain’t waiting to retire at 65. A lot of those women will retire early given the option, because they’ll be surrounded by men who could feasibly take care of them if they wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 02:05 PM
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Depends. Did she say she regretted having kids with your grandpa, or that she just had them earlier than she would’ve wanted?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 02:01 PM
1

Define “life experience” for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 01:59 PM
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The fact that you only see two extremes is probably why you can’t win. The answer is usually somewhere in the middle. Hope that helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 01:54 PM
2

And where did you get that information?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 01:53 PM
0

And?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 01:51 PM
3

Might just be me then. Because I quite literally cannot fathom viewing anyone I’m fucking as any sort of mother figure to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 01:22 PM
2

Exactly what I said. Aside from discipline, what part of a parents’ job would be expected to be performed for the kids, but not extended to their partner? If you can’t articulate your point. That’s fine. We’ll just agree to disagree. But I firmly believe that the qualities that make you a good partner are a direct extension of the qualities that make you a good parent (outside of the bedroom, obviously)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 01:12 PM
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Objective reality… is objective… You can either argue in this vague circle or say the acronym so I know what tf we’re even talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 01:08 PM
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Because if you desire to do those things for your children, you’ll desire to do those things for your partner. I’ll support and protect my wife just like I would with my kids. Only difference imo is having conversations among equals rather than disciplining. That’s where you start turning into a parent. As a man, what am I expected to do for my children, that I wouldn’t be expected to do for my wife by extension?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 01:03 PM
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Because “Redpill” is literally just seeing things for what they are and responding accordingly. Watching what men and women say vs how they act. I’ve been RP since Kevin Samuels was preaching it. Just because I don’t keep up every acronym that every RP grifter comes up with, doesn’t mean that I don’t most closely align with the ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:59 PM
3

I’m unfamiliar with “AWALT”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:54 PM
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Not really. Those qualities don’t just turn on and off. If a woman can’t keep the house in order for him and her alone, he’s not having kids with her. If a man can’t provide for both of them, she’s probably not intentionally having kids with him. Keep in mind, these are “traditional” roles. Not the infinite other ways we can divide it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:53 PM
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Nobody wants to work, and women actively seek men that are as good or superior to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:49 PM
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That’s kinda the point if you want a family with kids, no? A woman with good maternal qualities and a father with good paternal qualities? That’s how I always thought about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:46 PM
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Imagine thinking you need to hoe out to gain worldly knowledge and experience. I mean honestly, you’re making your grandmother and most women in history before her’s accomplishments sound like some Herculean feat or great contradiction lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:45 PM
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Idk what isn’t structured about it. The gym builds muscle, and over time, self confidence. Women like those. Most people don’t like someone pestering them. Too bad. We live in a society. People are allowed to try to drum up conversation. Getting over their opinions of you is part of point so that you can gain confidence in speaking. After a little while, you won’t be a pest. You’ll just be talking.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 06:06 PM
2

I don’t disagree with that take.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 10:24 PM
2

Okay? And if I wear a wedding fake ring to a bar, it’ll double the amount of women that hit on me. Are you trying to prove some moral superiority over men? Because there isn’t one.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 09:14 PM
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Along with my own experience, I’m a contractor. I’ve changed work partners and gotten to actually know hundreds of people. Not just worked around them. Like, if you work shoulder to shoulder all day 5-6 days a week, you get to know each other’s business whether you like it or not. Now, you could chalk it up to just not being observant. Maybe just being too trusting. But every guy I know that’s been cheated on found out through some extenuating circumstance. And it’s out of the blue. Pure luck th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 07:12 PM
1

I was once. I was fully aware of the other times.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 07:03 PM
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4 women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 06:05 PM
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Unless you’ve got a bug to spy on men and women across America, there’s no good source.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 06:04 PM
0

Never claimed to be a saint.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 05:32 PM
1

Idk if I’d go that far. But the wider net you cast, the more men and women you’ll catch.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 05:31 PM
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We’ll never have good stats on it because women will take cheating all the way to the grave. They also don’t put themselves out there to cheat like men do. Best we can do are anecdotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 05:30 PM
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Well considering all my experiences are at least a decade old, and they chose to stay with the guy, even though any of them could’ve easily left, I’d say yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 05:27 PM
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Again, false. I’ve seen it with my own eyes. Nothing makes you understand how devious women can be like being the other guy a few times.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 11:42 AM
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Women cheat just as much as men. They’re just significantly better at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 11:29 AM
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The table of “coercive strategies” is casting a pretty damn wide net. Not that I’m reading a whole ass study like that just for something like this. But it reads like there’s no context at all. This is silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 10:08 AM
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POV: Chronically online victim
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 11:54 PM
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I’m sure you do. Just like I have a million about women doing the same thing to men. Cruelty and manipulation is not an exclusively male trait. I’d even argue that women are significantly better at it tbh. When a man is manipulating a woman, you hear the story and assume she’s an idiot because the signs were big, bold, and neon. You hear stories of women manipulating men and it’s usually more cunning, and camouflaged in the halo effect. But that’s an anecdote I’m not willing to research and back…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 09:54 PM
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RP isn’t a monolith. It’s literally “See dating and relationships for what they are. Watch actions not words. Act accordingly.” Your guy got you and kept you before you went out and got ruined by the dating pool. Man’s literally living the RP best case scenario. And you’re the one saying he’s gonna leave because apparently “wife goggles don’t exist”. Do you even know what your point is? Are you a bot? Am I just arguing with some rage baiter in India rn? I stg the dead internet theory is too real…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 04:43 AM
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No where in your link does this dude talk about being married. Which he isn’t, based on his comment about going on a date with a 30 year old model. Aside from that, most men don’t care about you getting older. It’s pretty much all related to absolutely letting yourself go, and becoming fat and lazy. Just for reference, how old are you, and how old is this HVM? Also, you’re arguing with me, even though you’re evidently in relationship that proves my point? How’s that?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 04:26 AM
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The time limit and constraints shouldn’t be more than an abortion. As a proponent of paper abortions and being pro choice, a man should have 30% less time to decided than the woman has to have the abortion. No one should be forced to parent or provide for a child they didn’t want, or everyone involved should be forced to parent the child. You’re either thinking for the good of society or the good of the individual. But you gotta pick.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 04:18 AM
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Idk if this is bait or stupidity. Men (in general) find women (in general) most attractive at 22 based on every study. That’s literally all it says. Nowhere in it does it say the clock strikes midnight on your 23rd or 24th birthday and become ugly and undesirable. The reasoning that younger women are more easy to get along with than older jaded ones. You ALL make these posts and can’t comprehend starting a new relationship with a 35 IS NOT the same as being married to a 35 year old since she was…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 03:50 AM
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I mean, that’s adoption. You give money, you get child. Idk what you want me to tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 09:09 AM
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There’s no reason to kill it off. The foster care system may be fucked. But people are on waiting lists for newborns.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 08:47 AM
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Well yeah, incubating fetuses in an artificial womb isn’t possible quite yet either, although much closer. This is something we’ll get to at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 08:46 AM
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I mean, if I’m single and childless by 40, I’d probably go for it. I want kids. There wouldn’t be a child conceived unless someone wants it just because the eggs and incubator are available.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 08:37 AM
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It’s the only good reason. Extract it, adopt it out at 9 months. What else is there?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 08:34 AM
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Extract the fetus intact, put it in an artificial womb, adopt it out. No killing or crossing lines of bodily autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 08:15 AM
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If you can safely extract a fetus and put it in an artificial womb, why would you feel the urge to abort it? It’s no longer in your body. I thought that was the whole point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 08:14 AM
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Google it. That’s all I’m gonna do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 08:12 AM
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And even with an extra zero, still cheaper than adopting a newborn.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 08:06 AM
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Look up adopting a newborn.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 08:05 AM
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Artificial wombs expand the client base, making it more profitable, making it worth more to pay out to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 07:58 AM
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Pay more. All of these women that claim to never want kids will probably take a $1000-$5000 pay day. The facility could mark it up 50%-100%, and it’d still be cheaper than adoption.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 07:57 AM
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Well I’m assuming men, gay couples, and couples unable to conceive and carry the child, would be the main beneficiaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 07:55 AM
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Pay women to donate eggs the same way we pay men to donate sperm and I don’t think it’ll be much of an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 07:44 AM
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I just want artificial wombs to put the abortion argument to bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 07:43 AM
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🎶I would go through all this pain. Take a bullet straight through my brain🎶
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 03:24 AM
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The fact you think men as a whole, are uniquely cruel with taking advantage of the opposite sex to get what they want, just shows how much more tolerant we are of women doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 03:09 AM
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Not on Reddit complaining about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 03:07 AM
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I don’t know you. I don’t know which man will. I just know who I would for. And I can promise, it’s not just for sex. I can have sex whenever if I want to go out and get it. I can pay for it if I want it on demand. Do we give that treatment to every woman across the board? No. We view our relationships with women we don’t know the same way we view our relationships with men we don’t know. Utilitarian/mutually beneficial. Women just have the added layer of sexual prospects. You’ve also apparently…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 03:06 AM
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Bruh, there are men that will literally jump in front of a train for you, and you still wouldn’t be happy. Men pour their hearts out willing to do anything for women all the time, get rejected, and then when some turn into jaded/nihilistic assholes, you just surprised pikachu face. And y’all still think that because some other men don’t care about you for anything other than sex, you’ll paint men badly with broad strokes. You wanna know which men I know that have less success finding relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:42 AM
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Then there’s that
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 07:09 PM
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Age is a multiplier for the good or the bad. If you’re a broke, fat, loser at 18, it’s forgivable, if not expected, and there’s still time to turn it around. If you’re in that same position at 35-40, that’s waaaaay worse. Sort of the same on the opposite side. If you’re 18 with washboard abs and good energy, of course you have that, you’re 18. If you’re 35-40 with that, you’re waaaaaaay more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 08:38 PM
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Well with that whole conversation, context matters a lot. This is one of those contexts that I’d be okay with. BUT, if anal is something you really really want, I could understand leaving. I just don’t care about it that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:57 PM
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Well yeah. Because in 20 or 30 years, when a significant portion of those women figure out that wasting their life on a career only to be unappreciated, replaced, and thrown away was a mistake. Men don’t have the issue with that realization because most of us get a dose of crushing loneliness at some point in our youth. We already know what could happen when you have literally no one. By then, it’ll be too late though. I’m sure some women will be happy. But there’ll be a loooooot that aren’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:58 PM
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Without going into too much detail, I’ve been on the better end of this. An ex, fwb, whatever you wanna call her, told me there were a couple of things she’d only do with me, because I was the only one that ever did them correctly, and with little instruction. I’m sure scenario 1 is more common. But scenario 2 certainly exists. I had a friend break up with a girl because (according to him, so I’m just taking him at his word) there were certain things she did with her ex bf, that she wanted to st…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 09:14 PM
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Because I have skills to introspect and I like working with kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 03:29 PM
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Coulda fooled me, since feminists spend a lot of time dunking on women who choose the trad route.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 05:11 PM
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Except it’s more about self preservation than driving the other person away. If love bombing drives a guy away, he didn’t want you to begin with. He just wanted to smash.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 02:54 AM
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I’m not technically. I just don’t see myself meeting someone new and being comfortable with them in a short enough timeframe. Especially not if I date women my age. Last thing I need to do is let biological clocks rush me into crappy relationship and shackle me to them for 18 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 09:26 PM
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No. Two reasons. I don’t know any adoption agency that would adopt out to a single man. And adoption would run you $40k.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 09:21 PM
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Maybe so. But I lived my 20’s not taking any risks because I felt obligated to be in a stable place. My parents were going to get old soon, and weren’t privileged enough to have a plan for sustaining themselves after dad couldn’t work. And it was always in the back of my mind. They didn’t ask me to. I just did it. I might have done things differently had I known they’d both die by the time I was 30. But you can’t plan for things like that. And I don’t want to put that on my kids either.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 09:19 PM
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Rather not be specific. Young enough I could still feasibly be a parent. Old enough, that it’ll be selfish of me to do that and leave them with elderly parents that’ll die when they’re young like my parents did, unless I knocked up some random woman, like right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 09:11 PM
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I appreciate it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 09:07 PM
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It sucks. But I guess it’s my own fault. Wasting too much time on the wrong people. Not being better for the right ones. I don’t deserve a family. It makes me wonder why I do anything anymore. It’s not like I like my job. I bought a house with the expectations of starting a family that’s currently just me in it. All of my immediate family has died in the last 5 years. I have nothing and no direction. Having a family, getting to be a dad, was what I felt my purpose would be. And now it’s not. And…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 09:01 PM
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Look, you’re asking bout guys that want a partner. I’m answering as an RP guy with good intentions, from my experiences and the way I see it. I’m not gonna defend every guy out there that happens to be abusive or manipulative for the wrong reasons. It’s also not really being a romantic “deep down”. It’s understanding that throwing yourself all in on a person, treating them like they’re your one and only on week one is a losing strategy. For example, getting excited and responding to texts immedi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 08:23 PM
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In a sense. Every stoic man you’ve ever met was a hopeless romantic that always went overboard at some point. Most of us grow out of it with time and experience because women don’t want that. At least not at first. TRP just gives a blueprint to follow. It’s just not as eloquent as learned experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 05:20 PM
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Well ideally, for a life partner, you don’t have to do that nearly as much. Besides that, people call TRP misogynistic because half of it is just getting us to temper our natural instincts to love you unconditionally because we do it so much that it’s a problem. I mean honestly, men just love women more in general. We also don’t obsess over this idea of being “equal”. No one is equal. I’m not dating a copy of myself. They’re going to be different, and therefore not equal. As for the value they b…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 03:57 PM
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The release of Pragmata didn’t help
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 05:52 PM
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Well thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 04:32 PM
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I work construction. I know a loooooooot of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 04:07 PM
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Not meshing with one of many beliefs, and one that’s genuinely a gray moral area, isn’t necessarily a reason not to believe in the overall philosophy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 09:26 AM
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It’s understandable. But it doesn’t make you “less guilty” per se. That being said, crime of passion does make sense. And in a system where we’re convicted by a jury, that jury is likely to think “Well what the fuck did she think was gonna happen?” Or something along those lines. You’re also not exactly likely to do it again. You’re not a danger to society at large. You just snapped under some of the most extenuating circumstances imaginable. That being said, his reasoning is odd. Because I know…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 09:23 AM
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The thing about men that women hate to admit, is that no matter what y’all do, a significant amount of men will still love you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 04:55 AM
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I think they were talking about advice for men. Or they’re dumb and can’t read a flair.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 07:13 PM
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You can hold all all of those simultaneously. Although everyone seems to conflate “value” with simple probability. But let’s hit all the points. That’s just a red flag all on its own. But everyone has their own definition of “too fast” or “too slow” while also throwing context out the window. Yeah, if you’re two adults, the guy is putting in effort, and she isn’t even having trouble restraining herself, she’s not that into you. Up to you to decide if that’s a deal breaker. If you want the happy …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 05:31 PM
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“Be yourself” is advice we’ve heard forever, older than all this pill nonsense by a lot, but I’d say most anti redpill folks would say it to some degree. But it ignores that 1. If being yourself was working, you wouldn’t be asking for advice. And 2. Some people do have flaws or suck in some way, and need to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 07:53 PM
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Idk what men you’re talking to. Being passably pretty and easy to get along with are like the top two things most men will say in some form or another. The first things you mentioned are more just the bare minimum for a lot of guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 03:26 PM
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Might help if you specify “your time”. Dating has changed a lot even in the last 10 years. Probably more than any time before that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 08:53 PM
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Well first, I’d have to know what we’re talking about if we’re going by anecdotes. You say a 5/10, ok. But is that by the numbers? Being a 5/10 is literally just not being fat. Anything more than that is a 6/10 and up. What are the roadblocks your friend faces that keeps the dating market dry? Working 6 or 7 days a week, being short, doesn’t like Asians? Simping is a mentality that we all had at some point. We just normally grow out it. And when I refer to the dating market, I’m speaking in gene…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 06:58 PM
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I mean, that’s part of the point, no? They won’t settle for less, then compete for the top 20% man, and get salty about it, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 06:53 PM
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Idk. Make a post about how much harder it is to date as a man in most subs, and you’ll have comments flooded with women saying “Dating for women is just as hard for women” and “looking for more than sex is impossible”. Then once you push back, they’ll start on a tangent about how much more dangerous it is for women to date, men just aren’t trying, etc. All that being said, the way it’s portrayed as a fact by the manosphere is a bit silly. But if you listen to the women around with plenty of opti…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 06:46 PM
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Yeah. Women give good relationship advice. But they’re not worth listening to for getting your foot in the door for a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 06:25 PM
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The determining factor for me is taste/smell. If she's not clean or that pH is off, I can't enjoy it. It's bleh.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 08:51 AM
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Honestly, not much. I delegate the home and day to day stuff to her because she’s better at it and I trust her. But if I really put my foot down about something (incredibly rare), I’m getting the final say. As for sex, if she’s not interested, it kills the vibe for me. Doesn’t mean I wouldn’t be sexually frustrated, or end a relationship over it. I just wouldn’t be interested in sex with someone that doesn’t want me. “Submissive” really is just a buzzword though. It’s like you said in your last …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 05:42 AM
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Everyone is going to have their own interpretation of what I said because in the dating context, it’s changed over time. But that’s what the analogy means, and what it’s always meant since the matrix came out. And in dating it’s mostly built on what works vs what we think is supposed to work. That’s not gonna be exactly the same with everyone. But it’s the closest thing we have to stances on dating, because if we scrapped the whole “pill” idea, these debates would be more of a clusterfuck waste …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 10:49 AM
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At their core it literally is redpill= accepting things for what they are, and acting accordingly. Bluepill= being idealistic and bit deluded. The thing about it is that not everyone needs the same prescription because everyone has different temperaments, life experiences, and emotional thresholds. Lots of young men gravitate towards the idea of red pill because they’ve spent their youth listening to the women in their life, and realizing it didn’t work, and maybe was even detrimental. Or they h…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 10:23 AM
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Lmao yeah. We try. But despite our best efforts, more than enough wimpy simps make it through, I promise. And if that was what women went for, there’d be more of them. But good job admitting the ones that are around are literally invisible to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 10:09 AM
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Women are the selectors of who breeds and who doesn’t. The men that get to multiply are the ones that get women to let them. That’s not anyone’s fault. It just is. Humans aren’t exactly unique in that. You’re also heavily misrepresenting those traits as “unattractive”. Men just don’t like butch looking women. Simple as that. If women started selecting small, wimpy, submissive guys, you think they’d be turning those women away? I certainly don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 09:46 AM
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Not unless we evolve to the point our sexual dimorphism flipped to the women being the bigger, stronger, pushier sex. But considering women are still selecting for masculine men, I very seriously doubt it. Especially since men don’t even usually consider assault. They consider it a mishap, negative experience, etc. and generally (not never) aren’t traumatized by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 12:36 AM
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Fam, I ain’t reading allat.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 10:06 AM
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If it’s a common thread, then I see no need to differentiate. Doesn’t change the fact the if this wasn’t something all waves of feminists believed, you could easily differentiate it. You can tag me in whatever you want. Makes me feel special.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 10:59 PM
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If it’s not something traditional 1st wave feminists believed, call it 2nd wave, 3rd wave, or radical feminism. Though, this doesn’t seem like something it’d make a difference what kind of feminist you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 09:42 PM
2

You can explain it all in one simple phrase.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 08:30 PM
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Well yeah. That’s his thing. Losers identify with him and try to explain their failings with numbers, rather than working with what they’ve got. They’re really more black pill than red pill at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 05:26 PM
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Not the point. You understood the difference as soon as I said it. That’s the aim.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 05:24 PM
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Then what’s red pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 05:23 PM
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Disregarding the entire other half of the debate sub? Yeah, that checks out.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 05:22 PM
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That’s why we split them into 1st, 2nd, and 3rd wave feminist schools of thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 03:31 PM
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Kevin Samuels died for our sins 🙏
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 03:30 PM
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IMO Rollo is the OG grifter. He’s the one that really started making statistical talking point for the Neo PR to parrot.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 03:28 PM
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My b. It didn’t reply to the comment I meant to.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 01:28 PM
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Never said they would
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 01:27 PM
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Women and men have different values. Being fat would impact you significantly more than being slutty as a man. But if you build some muscle under that fat, there’s a not insignificant number of women that actively pursue that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 01:23 PM
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Because the amount of effort required matters. How attainable something is makes it valuable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 01:19 PM
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It is relevant. If the criteria is so low and easily achievable, that doesn’t make it “top” anything. It just means that men like women more than women like men inherently, and are more forgiving lol. You just think a 6/10 man going for a 6/10 woman is shooting out of his league because your perception is a tad warped.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 12:23 PM
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No. I’m saying what makes us desirable differs. It’s just that what makes women desirable to men is entirely within their control. What makes men desirable to women, is only somewhat within their control. On top of that, we all have our list of “wants”. But men are generally good with being passably attractive, decently kind, willing to see you as a priority, and mentally stable (debatable). Pretty much every criteria falls under that, which is again, entirely within a woman’s control.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 12:15 PM
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Maybe so. Difference being what makes a good women to a man, and what makes a good man to woman, aren’t really the same. Or perhaps it’s better to say that the subjects may be the same. But the priorities are very shuffled around.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 12:05 PM
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Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 12:00 PM
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Men. The whole gender huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 11:59 AM
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Lol not really. You pretty much covered it. Aside from maybe not being a literal psycho. But even that’s not a deal breaker for a lot of guys if you’re attractive enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 11:46 AM
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Kinda wild that all it takes to be a “top tier woman” is to not be fat, slutty, a gold digger, or a single mom. Especially since all of those things are completely within your control.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 11:34 AM
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At what point in any of my comments did I complain about life? I offered a lot of experiences. Nowhere in there did I complain about dealing with them personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 09:55 PM
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Lol tough shit? I’m not giving you a sob story. I’m not even really arguing. I’m giving you an answer to your question.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 09:49 PM
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Women did. Like, a lot. Bare minimum, it’s “personality matters so much more” which is also untrue. It’s commonly accepted as fact that men are shallow. Men will admit that most times. Most women will not. Especially when we’re younger and learning all of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 09:20 PM
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I respectfully disagree. The gym is the easy first step. There’s more to self improvement than that. Although I’d argue that undoing the early lessons boys are taught about what women say they want, including “looks don’t matter” is part of teaching them that “1000 year old truth”.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 08:14 PM
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Because saying “I’m sad” doesn’t do me or anyone else any good. On top of that, no one cares. So I skip to figuring out what I can do to not be sad. Never once has talking about how I feel made me feel any better. That’s why people dive into RP content to begin with. And honestly, the self improvement side of it does have some value.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 07:58 PM
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Assault is physical violence without a weapon.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 09:30 PM
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It is vague. It’s a very broad term that some people use much more liberally than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 05:37 PM
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I’m getting tired of explaining to people the difference in a 40 year old that you’ve built a life with over 20 years and a 40 year old that wants to date you. Aside from that, men don’t have a tendency to look at mostly good women and say “I won’t ever settle for less” like women do. Your bottleneck is imaginary in practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 01:26 PM
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I’m not sure what you’re getting at. Calling out an injustice doesn’t detract from your own. Bad people can call out bad things. It doesn’t move their moral needle or earn them any sympathy. Does that answer your question?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 11:24 AM
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Well pretty much every man in history up to this century was a misogynist. And I refuse to believe there have been next to zero good men ever. Lots of good men aren’t getting laid. So to assume there’s something wrong with them morally is a bit fucked up imo. As far as the bonus question, more of a correlation than a causation. A misogynist would call out one and not the other. Someone who’s being directly targeted would call out who’s targeting them. Most women won’t call out misandry. In fact,…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 10:48 AM
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Generally, the unprompted attention and desire to take the initiative. If you don’t have to compliment first, text first, or initiate every intimate/sexual moment, that’s a pretty good sign. Ngl, MOST women won’t put in any effort at all. If she’s not putting in something by the end of the first date, you’re already out of the running. Whether that means she doesn’t plan on seeing you again, or you’re just pacifying her time, either way, you’re not the one she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 07:46 AM
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I think most people who want kids settle on 2 or 3. Men of the past wanted more kids because kids were an asset. They helped take care of the family, farm, etc. People also felt some pressure to take care of their parents. Nowadays they’re a burden for the most part, with no sense of obligation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 03:22 AM
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LTR No kids Classical RP
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 04:20 PM
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Check out the difference between Kevin Samuels vs Fresh and Fit. That was about the turning point between classical redpill and the neo-redpill bs.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 04:20 PM
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Not gonna speak for all men. But that’s generally how my relationships run. I make enough to support a household. Given that, most women don’t mind staying at home. If they also choose to work, we hardly see each other, and the relationship will generally end on that note.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 12:32 AM
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“Eye candy” isn’t a term for no reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 02:43 AM
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Let’s get this out of the way off the jump. No one “deserves” anything from someone else. Affection is given, not taken. This goes for the guys that think they “deserve” a woman too. With that out of the way, I’m fairly traditional. Not that I purposely meant to be that way. Just that I want a partner that covers my weak points, rather than doubling down on them. I’m short on personal time, which leads to disorganization at home, and lower motivation to make good choices and take care of myself.…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 01:20 AM
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It’s not really about “happy” or not. I don’t believe in using force of law, and especially religiously fueled law, to manipulate people’s behavior. I believe we should bring back shame and consequences because so MANY women, and guys too, being as slutty as they are, is part of what’s messing up society. People act this way because we’ve been getting fed the line “It doesn’t affect you, so shut up” while ignoring the further reaching effects. There’s an ocean of difference in severity between r…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 01:49 PM
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“Word vomit” is what you say because you can’t comprehend the point. I could search up and pull stats about having more sexual partners leads to higher rates of divorce or dissatisfaction in marriage and breaks up families, or higher rates of distrust among individuals in society. But I’m not going to because you don’t even think there’s a problem. You see everything on an individual scale, while refusing to acknowledge the big picture of how other people’s actions affect how we perceive each ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 12:18 AM
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Oh my god, I’m tired of these posts. Just read the last post like this. https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/ogbTput8P3
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 11:57 PM
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Those values built civilization. What’s good for civilization isn’t necessarily good for the individual and vice versa, and that’s the line we typically have to argue and compromise on. With freedom comes responsibility. Most people don’t take responsibility. That’s we need to hold each other accountable for poor decisions. A solid 20%-30% lack the ability all together because that’s the percentage of people significantly under the average IQ, and who usually lack self control the most. From the…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 10:41 PM
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Bingo
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 05:32 PM
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There’s no magic single thing. It’s a million little things that have been steadily eroded over generations. Nobody puts weight or shame on anything anymore. A few hundred years ago “I give my word” meant something because if you broke it, the consequences were far reaching if anyone found out. Sex had all sorts of consequences depending on the circumstances, although pregnancy was a constant up until the birth control pill. Just to name a couple of examples. Nowadays no one can be trusted at al…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 04:48 PM
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Nuance =/= backtrack. That’s just a lazy comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 09:34 PM
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Eh, idk. Hierarchies can go too far just like the lack of them. Idk who should draw that line. But I’m not going to pretend it’s me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 09:05 PM
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I can understand that. The issue is that broader concepts of “good”, “bad”, “trustworthy”, etc. get muddy. And no matter how much you want to, you can’t get to know every single person’s morals and rule sets. This creates divisions, misunderstandings, and breaks down common rule. I don’t really think most people’s morals in themselves are wrong or bad. I believe most people are doing the best that they can. It’s just chaotic, which has it’s own host of issues and consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 07:21 PM
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I will. Because they’ve become the pervasive theme. It sends society into a negative feedback loop.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 06:21 PM
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You’re right. But we’re getting there. That’s why I’m saying what I’m saying. No sense of morals, honor, or anything overrule pleasure and personal comfort anymore. The society we live in is becoming increasingly self centered.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 06:06 PM
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Structure makes society work. If everyone does literally whatever they want, no shame, no consequences, etc. things fall apart. We’re witnessing it happen in real time because men are starting to follow women in the “do whatever we want because none of it matters anyway” approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 05:58 PM
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Every time
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 03:48 PM
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Correct
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 03:47 PM
1

Careful mentioning that word on Reddit. Your computer might burst into flames.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 12:22 PM
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Yup, 100%
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 06:19 AM
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All of this sounds like an overly eager person on a dry spell. I’ve been there at least a couple of times in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 05:48 AM
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You’re right. I wouldn’t deny that. You’ve obviously gotta get along well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 05:45 AM
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I do find women my own age attractive. I’m not even old yet fam. I’m just probably not going to stop finding my current age group attractive once I’m past it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 05:38 AM
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If the age mattered by itself, then I wouldn’t make exceptions that easily. If you lined up a 100 women for a blind date, I’m picking the prettiest one that I get along with the best. And chances are, I’m probably not even asking how old they are (assuming they’re all legal adults here). We’re arguing semantics if anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 05:34 AM
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How can I say it when it’s not true? If a women had those qualities I listed, and happened to be older, then the age alone would stop me if it mattered by itself. But it doesn’t. So it wouldn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 04:59 AM
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Lmao, yeah. 20 years is about what I’d expect before they die. I’m not older yet. I’m speaking about what I’d do in that situation. Hopefully, I’d never have to, because I don’t want to deal with most of y’all even now. You also spent more time arguing with what you thought you read than what I actually said or meant. You’re free to do that. I don’t tell people who to date. Just discuss why they do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 04:56 AM
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I guess it depends how you define “poor”. A guy could treat them as well as he can. He’s just only gonna do it for 20 years or so as opposed to 50. Idk why you assume that means we’re just looking for young women to abuse lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 04:44 AM
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Because tight bodies, pretty faces, and youthful energy are no more common in women in their 50’s than six packs and full heads of hair are for men in their 50’s. If those were women’s priorities, they’d be dating younger too. It’s a correlation. The age itself doesn’t really matter. It’s just that the likelihood of finding a woman in their 50’s like that isn’t high because there simply aren’t many.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 04:38 AM
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I like how you’re just putting words in my mouth here. I said “pretty and easy to get along with”. Argue with the words I said. Not the ones you made up. Age only tangibly matters if you want kids. That’s the meaning of saying “why plan long term”. The idea is that you’re planning on raising a family. Lots of women are actively against children though. So idk what their plan or reasoning in dating is. But lots of women are attracted to older guys so 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 04:33 AM
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Nope. You’re just being obtuse about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 04:27 AM
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It’s really just a correlation. Most of the things men find attractive line up with women in their 20’s and 30’s. There are plenty of exceptions to the rule. I’m just realistic about my chances of finding one. Age really only matters as a young guy still wanting to start a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 04:08 AM
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That’s the definition of not caring about age. Just so happens the qualities most men find attractive line up with women in their 20’s and 30’s. Not always though. I’d take Kate Beckinsale right this mf millisecond.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 04:06 AM
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That’s up to you I suppose. I’m not starting a new family with someone at 50 something, true love or not lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 04:04 AM
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You would think it was common sense. But you see this post all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 01:53 AM
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Maybe. Maybe not. Most of us don’t even care about age as long as you’re pretty and easy to get along with.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 01:31 AM
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I’ve said it once, I’ve said it 1000 times. A 45 year old that you’ve spent half your life building with is NOT the same as starting to date a 45 year old for a fresh relationship. Do some guys leave their wives JUST to marry a younger woman? Sure. Just like some women will leave their man for a guy with a bigger dick. Is this the majority? No. Nobody gives a damn if a woman “hits the wall” while she’s married. They’re only criticizing the single women that think they’re as hot as they were at 2…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 10:34 PM
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Generally, in day to day life, I just don’t care about most women any more than random men. Men and women aren’t a monolith. But speaking in generalities, if I had to say anything, it’s western women specifically I’m starting to get tired of. And it’s not even a disdain as much as a fatigue/disappointment. Western culture affects everyone, and maybe they’re just as tired of the men. I’m just straight and don’t really have a dog in that fight. But women of other countries seem to like us.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 02:47 PM
2

Compromising IS settling to a degree lol. That’s the point. You don’t get everything you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 05:08 AM
2

Alright, ignore my anecdote. Why do you think YOU know best? Do you have a perfect partner who you’d change nothing about? Do you have any reason or experience to think you know any more than I do?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 10:02 PM
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Because when y’all get a reality check, accept that you aren’t perfect, and aren’t going to get a perfect man, life gets easier. I’ve seen it over and over and over again with the women in my life. And every damn time the “I’ll never settle group” is miserable until they realize we’re all settling, and it’s really not a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 08:39 PM
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I don’t care. It’s still annoying. We’ve developed so far past requiring a partner to thrive, y’all lost the plot. Y’all make poor romantic decisions, complain, and do it again simply because you make settling sound like a fate worse than death.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 08:17 PM
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Because men are settling for most women. It sounds pretentious when women won’t “settle” for anything less than the ideal man while men are willing and generally fine with settling for women. That’s why wise men say “stick with the strong 6/10 that’s good to you”. That’s still settling. It makes life easier most of the time too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 08:09 PM
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Were things really that bad though? Because for all the examples I hear of really horrible living situations for women, and I do agree that some men were absolute animals to their wives, I hear the same if not more that were fine at worst and phenomenal at best. Like, I hear you at a conceptual level, feminism did all the good. But most of the women I know that chose to take advantage and embrace feminism are kinda miserable. The only genuinely happy women I know are more traditional while takin…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 02:11 AM
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I thought so too until I figured out just how many women were against is. Life was getting easier. Chores were becoming automated. Abusing your wife the way some men did was steadily becoming more frowned upon. The majority of women weren’t fighting for the women’s suffrage movement. It was a minority of women backed by some powerful men. Idk. The way things have panned out, it just seems too convenient for certain groups. Idk who would choose to have to work for a living. I make over 100k a yea…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 01:45 AM
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Here’s a hot take. Feminism was a government psyop created to get women to enter the workforce in droves, increasing the amount of workers way faster than viable wage earning jobs, driving down the value of each worker, while nearly doubling the amount of tax slaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 12:53 AM
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Weird take considering every guy I know complains about matches on dating apps fishing for subs after wasting your time, and bots for these hoes on every platform from instagram to fucking Xbox constantly harassing us.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 02:10 PM
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Men don’t “hate” sluts in general in my experience. We hate in your face “buy my content” sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 01:38 PM
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That’s true. But at a certain point, it’s simply not worth the effort. Dating in the west is in shambles. If you have to try that hard, you might as well just put the effort towards making money and go find a wife in the Philippines or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 09:05 AM
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As someone who’s been in every part of the “self improvement” spectrum, there’s nothing you can do to rig the game in your favor. “Best” is subjective. That’s why some garbage dudes can relationship hop with no trouble, while the on paper “best choice” has no luck. I’m all for self improvement. But centering your life around women to compete with guys that are most certainly going to have advantages one way or another isn’t really living. That’s a dead end road. Even if you go way above and beyo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 04:36 PM
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I feel like if men have to utterly center their life around impressing women to have any measure of success, we’ve probably gone wrong somewhere as a society.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 03:36 PM
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I doubt it. Hypergamy is real. The number may grow some. But it’ll always be an insignificant minority. It likely seems that way to you because that’s your circle. But if you’re right, I’m all for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 09:41 PM
3

I’m aware. But that’s the position I’m in. I’m not mad at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 09:23 PM
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Idc honestly. I’m down to be the breadwinner. I’m down to be a stahd. But the majority of people don’t make what I make, even though I’m blue collar. And an odd thing I’ve noticed is that more college educated women look down on me, regardless of how much I make.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 09:08 PM
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You’re not the majority. Good for you finding what you want. But when speaking in generalities, I’m not considering the exceptions like yourself. And the majority of the time, career driven women want and equally or even more determined and career driven man. Most women consider less than that “dating down”.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 09:06 PM
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Because guys that want to be a stahd can’t advertise that. Women don’t want that, broadly speaking. So most guys cast that expectation aside. I wouldn’t mind at all. But my girl would have to at least match what I’m making. And that’s simply not feasible for most. That also directly conflicts with what most women want, which is “a man that makes as much or more than me”.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 05:02 PM
1

I feel like you just said what I said in reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 01:27 PM
1

So if the man is expected to ask, plan, and pay for the date to show his interest, what’s the woman supposed to do to show hers?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 01:21 PM
2

Idk what you mean. It’s not like it’s complicated. Gotta cast the bait for the fish you wanna cast. But you can generally start out paying and transition to 50/50 after a girl decides she likes you. It doesn’t really work the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 01:20 PM
2

You make it sound like a date with a random person isn’t supposed to be mutual showing of interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 01:02 PM
1

I mean less, relative to what you already had.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 01:02 PM
5

No one is forcing. The point is that the way our society has set women’s expectations, you either pay, or you have significantly less dating options. Even among self proclaimed feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 12:47 PM
2

I prefer traditional roles. If she’s going her part, I don’t mind paying, and am pretty upfront about it. Lots of guys not being upfront is why going 50/50 looks like a red flag when it shouldn’t be.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 12:31 PM
3

Well you’re a Scandinavian. I’m an American. We don’t know where OP is. So that’s the determining factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 12:28 PM
10

You’re not wrong. But you also won’t have much dating success, if any as an average guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 12:08 PM
1

Any guy who’s successfully dated throughout their 20’s and maybe 30’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 10:23 PM
2

I can tell by the downvote
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 08:34 PM
2

A lot of stay at home dads add a lot of credibility to this. Men have a mental to-do list, and pretty easily divide “this needs to happen right now/on time” and “this isn’t a priority. I’m not gonna stress about it.” Women seem to put a LOT more emphasis on things that don’t matter/matter very little. I think guys (in general, not all) are just more practiced at taking a deep breath and letting things go. Plus, with the birth rates down, a larger proportion of guys having kids are doing it becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 05:00 PM
1

Idk how that proves your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 08:30 PM
2

I don’t advocate for anything. I’m answering the question. Marriage is a raw deal for men. How it goes if divorce happens pretty much entirely depends how petty and mean the woman wants to get about unless there’s something disqualifying her like drug addiction or mental illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 07:26 PM
1

Child support and alimony aren’t the problem. Being stuck with things like a mortgage for a house you don’t live in are.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 07:14 PM
5

Considering a judge will give her the kids and the house, I doubt that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 07:13 PM
1

Yeah, over the course of that millennia you said it didn’t work.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 04:08 PM
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It worked great, actually. It got us to the point of overpopulation. Men went out and worked. Women worked at home. Only difference now is that most house work has been automated.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 04:06 PM
-1

If my girl starts making 150k a year, I’d be happy to. But the general family structure that’s worked for people for hundreds of years is pretty solid.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 03:52 PM
0

Because you want your kids raised by a parent. Not a daycare.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 03:09 PM
8

What’s a good reason to get married? I think of a lot, with a lot of examples on why NOT to marry. Not many in favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 03:01 PM
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You’re not addressing my point. Self control is there to outweigh your emotions and control your actions. That will not make you happier. That will not change what you want. It will not make you less miserable. It will keep you from taking it out others. That’s it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 08:55 AM
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Idk if you misunderstood what I said or ignored it. Self control is how you physically handle a situation. Not how you feel about it. A murderer isn’t a murderer unless they physically kill somebody. The urge or want is irrelevant. Alcoholics all want to drink again. That’s how they feel. They just don’t do it. But your implication that you can “self control” yourself out of your wants and desires is flawed af.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 02:21 AM
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Self control is action. People can’t help how they feel about a situation. “Have self control” is a “It works for so it should for you”. Doesn’t work when we’re all wired inherently differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 11:30 PM
2

That doesn’t work. Testosterone, lust, and drive, are all inherently linked. But even in your hypothetical, most men aren’t dumb enough or selfish enough to bring a child into the world without a mother. Society actually values moms as opposed to dads. Women need men to survive. Men need women to want to survive. That’s what keeps the human race going.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 11:27 PM
2

Why are we acting like boys are supposed to take relationships seriously, when girls don’t either? Teens and 20’s in general don’t take relationships seriously, even when they say they want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 10:26 AM
7

“Happy” is overrated imo. I’m relaxed. The world and the human condition makes happiness fleeting. But yeah, I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 10:34 AM
2

Lowering the barrier for entry =/= lowering your relationship standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 05:03 PM
7

In my experience, a lot of women (not all but a lot) need to be the one doing the work to get off; or at least it’s significantly easier, since most women need clitoral stimulation. Riding, grinding, etc. are all things with a better ratio of stimulation for the woman. But a lot of women just don’t want to do that for some reason, then blame the guy for not being able to read her mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 01:27 AM
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People in general aren’t that good at sex. Women just don’t get judged for it because it’s still better than jerking off.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 11:32 PM
17

Unfortunately, society was built by men who basically had the promise of a wife and children if they made something of themselves. That alone is literally what has propped up society. Personally, I’m curious to see what the erosion of that system will do to society. Men feel unneeded, unwanted, and unable to express what makes them feel alive. Can’t imagine that’ll pan out well over the next 100 or so years. But who could say?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 02:45 AM
1

You’d probably fall under one of the other 5+ reasons then
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 04:30 AM
1

Lmao nah. Strong is sexy. Healthy looking is sexy. I don’t believe for a second that you conveniently know a bunch of muscular women that happen to have gone viral. I think you’re just being a contrarian. Muscles don’t automatically make you look masculine. If they take steroids and testosterone, then they’ll look masculine because it’s literally the masculinizing hormone. Now I will agree with one thing, I have heard women say “I don’t want to get too bulky”, which isn’t something I hear from g…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 10:22 AM
1

Lmao no. This is even easy to test. Go to instagram and check out Monica Granada, Jessica Phuong, Strongwaifu, frizzy lifts, or any strong, but not roided (maybe even some juiced) up women. The haters almost always look like basement dwellers.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 07:55 PM
1

A pretty face and eating right is all a lot of women need.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 06:34 PM
1

In concept, that doesn’t bother me. In reality, I don’t like the government keeping my dna without my consent. If it somehow didn’t involve the government, I’d be more accepting.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 06:34 PM
2

The men that complain about muscles being unattractive are usually ugly themselves. No gym rat would put down a good muscle mommy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 06:31 PM
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Most women don’t have the external motivation if they’re already decently attractive. And while the external motivation isn’t necessary, it is the jumping off point for a LOT of people before they gain internal motivation. For some ungodly reason, the idea of getting “too bulky” somehow is still a thing that’s still around. Women just like a different variety of exercise. It’s a tough pill to swallow for some that they’ll lift weights for years to be the rough strength equivalent of a teen boy. …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 02:02 AM
1

DNA tests should be standard. Men as a whole should make that push so that getting one isn’t special or a sign of distrust, even if some of the men do distrust their partner. Making sure a child that you’re supporting and investing into for the rest of your life is yours, shouldn’t be controversial.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 01:01 AM
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Nah, because men in other less fat countries, where the average woman is more desirable still mostly have the same complaints about dating struggles. Although it doesn’t help. As a fit guy that isn’t into fat women, I really do not like having to disqualify 4/5 women on weight alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 10:36 AM
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You’re a three day old account. Of course it’s a throwaway or you got banned and wanted to come back. The “biggest deleter of pregnant women” doesn’t mean men are dangerous when you look at overall numbers. Just because women are more likely to get postpartum depression drown their babies, does that mean mothers are inherently dangerous? No. That’d be ridiculous. You just don’t have a real argument. So you throw out statistics that sound bad if you have a room temp IQ.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 02:05 AM
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Saying “statistically speaking” without backing it up with statistics is a cop out. You’re just a troll with bad faith arguments. So I’m going to keep entertaining you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 01:59 AM
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If your entire argument relies on the 1% extremes, you have no argument. I also find it interesting how women like you love to claim how dangerous men are and hinge your world views on it, while simultaneously provoking them. So sounds to me like you’re just making a bad faith argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 01:54 AM
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Yes, because it is. And if you’d like to see what happens to men who let their testosterone fueled impulses drive their actions, I’d point you to prisons. Women get away with far more. But simply feeling a certain way about the world and your life, and having that influence what you value and desire isn’t wrong when it’s consistent. It’s just a part of you. Your holier than thou “men are too weak to” bs means nothing. We’re all influenced by the chemicals in our brain. Idk why you’re trying to e…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 01:32 AM
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Men shouldn’t take criticism or minimization for how they feel from the gender who blames hormones for all their woes, and uses them as an excuse for poor behavior regularly. And your versions of prostitution are definitely illegal and come with fairly substantial risk, along with costing more than most guys can afford regularly. Again, it’s not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 12:12 AM
1

Smart man. Probably found a good woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 11:06 PM
4

Because 1. They have a choice. 2. They have 10X less testosterone. It’s not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 11:01 PM
3

Yep. Women’s “single” and men’s “single” aren’t the same. The peace of being single is a lot more appealing when you don’t have to worry about staying horny, and months or years of involuntary celibacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 10:40 PM
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People don’t wanna hear it. But toxic masculinity is just fake masculinity. People trying to imitate masculinity without guidance and lived experience. The two most “toxicly masculine” groups in existence are butch lesbians and teenage boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 09:26 AM
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Because what women say they want and what they actually respond to are usually two different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 01:05 AM
4

People that equate education with intellect have a skewed world view imo. I’ve met some incredibly intelligent people that just don’t enjoy the academic environment. I’ve also met very highly educated idiots.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 05:50 PM
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Lots of reasons. Lots of guys don’t want kids. You will never be that woman’s priority. You really have no ability to discipline this kid. So if they’re a little shit head, you’re at the mercy of the mother to do something about its If you actually get attached to this kid, the woman can leave, and you have exactly zero rights to that child. I’ve witnessed that personally three times and want no part of it. You probably have to deal with a bitter ex. This one is a reach. But it’s not unheard of …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:26 PM
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Going to the gym always helps. Looking the best in your frame never hurts.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 02:33 PM
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Beauty standards are imposed by other women. Always have been.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 02:31 PM
1

It at least helps you not take anything too personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:34 AM
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It doesn’t matter. Your whole premise is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:42 AM
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That’s not what simping means. Simping isn’t reciprocal. That’s what makes it “simping”. Your significant other should love you back and be making compromises at themselves, in theory. Your whole argument is built on a faulty definition of a “simp”.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:24 AM
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This right here. This is the answer. OF models are annoying as hell because they invade every space.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 07:23 PM
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Same thought occurred to me at some point. The thought went away when you compare to other better off modern societies, and the dynamics of third world countries and “traditional” countries tries. Pretty much the only exception is very Muslim countries since women are quite literally second class citizens.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 10:14 AM
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I hear that a lot. But I can’t get the thought out of my head that Women are less happy than they’ve ever been, at least by any metric we can measure. And a LOT more have mental health issues. Men are on the decline too, just at a less dramatic rate, and could directly be tied to women. In more egalitarian societies that make having families and raising children easier, more women choose to. Makes me feel like a lot of women got lured into the rat race and competing with men in careers through c…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 08:28 AM
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They might think there’s something wrong with her because there probably is. But they won’t generally shame her for it. And the second a man does, the other women come to her defense about “what she does with her body is her business”. Women talk badly about everyone. That’s just how women project aggression. But you all have a “hoe friend” or several. There’s no way to quantify it. We’ll just have to agree to disagree there.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:30 AM
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Not really. Not unless that’s some YOU wanted that rejected you. But I feel that’s different.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:18 AM
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Not really. Even if a lot of people don’t like it, I’d argue the majority are in the “who am I to judge” camp. Not to mention the women actively encouraging it, and the incels supporting their poor behavior. I mean honestly what do you think the approval percentage is of being a hoe? Sure, nobody wants their own daughter to be a hoe. But they’re fine with everyone else doing it. Also note, I’m specifically talking about the modern west.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:13 AM
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Actively wanting to be home makers and mothers. Bonus points for not actively trying to compete with their spouse in all walks of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:10 AM
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Major difference is that it used to not be socially acceptable. There was at least some incentive not to act like a hoe. Now it’s rewarded. Aside from that, no adult expects to marry a virgin. It has more to do with the fact that women in the past offered more of what men wanted while also having more realistic expectations of men, generally speaking. There was a reason is was “normal” to settle down in your 20’s, have a few kids, and live a relatively good life. Not having other people’s curate…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:57 AM
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Lol no. If they’re remotely attractive, men will approach them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 10:36 AM
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Women will sit and whine about being single before they’ll put themselves in a position to get rejected
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 03:51 AM
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Qualities that propagate the species will survive. Men that won’t approach, won’t have kids. That internal drive/confidence will be passed on. That’s just nature, and one of the very few ways we still adhere to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 06:35 AM
1

It’s a side note and a response to men complaining that they can’t get women. The primary message is to work on yourself, be happier with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 10:56 PM
1

Its because there are two types of redpill with no popular distinction between them. There's Kevin Samuels style redpill and even little tidbits of early F&F, along with other creators that preached “Build it and they will come”. Put women on the back burner, get your money right, get your body in shape, work on your attitude and charisma. Then there's “neo redpill” that comes from newer creators than more or less just bashes women, nothing is men’s fault (except the ones that don't follow us), …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 07:28 PM
2

Yeah, can’t be sensible and realistic around here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 05:06 AM
3

I'm only counting the things that have a current real world equivalent, because pretty much all of your list is just asinine to try to compare to anything happening right now. It depends on if they're voting for that party because they believe those things, or if the party offers other benefits (helping her further her career or education, running on good economic policies, or policies important to her), and the toxic feminism is just a by product. Like how a lot of people that vote republican j…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 10:06 PM
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I don’t understand why this is so hard for women to get. Most guys that want a family aren’t going to start it with a mid 30’s woman they just met because let’s be real, the clock is ticking. Men aren’t going to just up and leave the 35 year old, mother of their three kids, that they’ve been with for 12 years, because she got a couple of wrinkles. They leave because she stops having sex with him, stops giving a fuck about anything, and gains 100lbs. This isn’t complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 05:20 AM
2

All love is conditional. The conditions are just waaaaay easier to meet for some than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 08:00 AM
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Lol no. Not with honesty right out the gate they don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 12:53 AM
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“Men should” let me stop you right there. No man who wants anything from women will listen to you. Why? Because women don’t respond to honesty. At a certain point guys ask themselves “What’s more important? Preserving the feelings of this woman that likely couldn’t care less about you as a person or your struggles, or getting a win to feel something?”. Being the good guy isn’t generally rewarded. And enough years of it will wear most any guy down. If guys could openly and honestly approach women…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 01:01 PM
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If men and women both only dated across and up, everyone would be alone. On top of that, none of what you mentioned matters to me as “dating up”. Dating up for me is a woman younger than me, hotter than me, has an eye for detail, some creativity, and is generally easy to get along with. Her wealth, ambition, etc. are fine and all but really don’t add much to my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 01:33 AM
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I only needed to read the title to know a woman wrote this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 06:17 PM
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I’ve never heard that claim. So I feel it’s more of a side effect than a main goal. More women are conservative than men. And outside of Reddit where lines are rigid and political leanings matter more than anything, most of us are more alike than we are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 08:01 AM
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“Lots” is a stretch. And unless those old people are completely physically incapable, they’re all fucking. Nursing homes have some of the highest STD transmission rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 08:42 PM
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Most of TRP recommend avoiding marriage and children at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 04:18 PM
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So many “iF yOuR a GeMiNi JuSt SwIpE lEfT” ass bios💀
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 06:45 PM
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Work on your shit detector I guess. I know so many women claim that men “hide who they are”. But speaking as the guy friend who’s gotten PLENTY of hate from female friends because I have no filter, I tell them when a dude ain’t shit, only to be ignored, and later proven correct… most of you do it to yourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 06:00 PM
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I’m well aware. But I’ve also never had a horrible experience with someone that I talked to enough to feel good about on text or actually talking on the phone. Give him a chance I guess? Although in the context of “choose better”, I’ve only ever seriously heard that referring to women getting pumped and dumped, left a single mom, etc. If you’re hearing that about a literal first date, most of those are trolls.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 05:38 PM
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Did you not communicate with this person at all leading up to this date?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 05:17 PM
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I’ll aim it at whoever I see that needs it. But we’re talking about OP, talking about men judging women. If you wanna derail and have a whole different conversation about men, make your own post about it. Otherwise, I’ll refer you to my reply to OP, as it’s fairly gender neutral.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 05:12 PM
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What would you like me to say? They aren’t contradictory statements. Look at who you tend to date/find attractive, ask yourself if that aligns with your values and long term goals, and then ask yourself if you’re the type of person, that the person you want, would want to be with. If there’s a disconnect there, fix it. 90% of the “why can’t I find xyz” posts from men and women boil down to that disconnect. The berating, judging, and making fun of, usually come from the OP’s refusal to admit to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 05:09 PM
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Lol it’s because most of you vet guys based on stupid criteria that aren’t conducive to long term relationships. “Give a guy a chance” and “choose better” aren’t contradictory statements.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 04:30 PM
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I don’t feel like it’s something you should do before you’re about 30. That being said, you can do whatever you want. But there’s something to be said about the reversibility of it. Yes they’re reversible. But the longer you wait, the less likely the reversal will be successful. So it’s not something that should just be done all willy nilly. And especially not if you have any inclinations of ever having a family. Unless adopting doesn’t bother you. I wouldn’t really consider it emasculating eith…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 03:25 AM
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Nah, I disagree. Don’t get me wrong. I’d love to have more dating options. I feel like the dating pool being flooded with fatties definitely causes issues. But there are places like Japan and Korea facing population decline and borderline collapse, even though they’re significantly healthier weights than our population in the U.S.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 03:30 PM
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Houston, Tx here. You are correct that most of the Bible thumpers fit that bill. But if you ask anyone under say, 35 y/o, 9/10 liberal or conservative, they’ll they feel the extreme lengths that the anti-abortion folks have gone to is too far.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 05:16 AM
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You also likely have many more options to sift through than your male counterparts.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 07:17 AM
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You’re a woman. You weren’t raised to be used to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 07:14 AM
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And every guy that's dated has a story.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 12:58 AM
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At best, you give them the “ick” because you cried in front of them. At the worst, women will use your vulnerabilities against you when they feel slighted because it feels justified to them. The sad reality is that most men make the compromise of dating someone that's “mostly alright” because I there's a very real possibility of just dying alone. I know as many good dudes that are chronically single as are in relationships. As far as sharing, I told the first girl I was ever with that I was feel…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 12:14 AM
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Entirely statistically improbable
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 10:47 AM
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I think it’s insulting that women claim all their options are bad as if “thirsty in the middle of the sea”. Really? That many? That many of the men pursuing you aren’t worth a fuck? I find that very hard to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 02:27 AM
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What is actually wrong with you? Nowhere have I disputed that. I just said condoms suck because they dampen the sensation. This is a fact. Its not up for debate. It doesn't mean you shouldn't use them. It just makes sex way less worth it if you know you're going to have to imo. THAT’S IT. Step off of your condescending bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 03:30 AM
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That's not the point. Or did you not actually read the previous comments?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 03:11 AM
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Ok pretty sure most dudes agree that condoms damper the experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 11:03 PM
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Yeah, they do. Once the novelty of fucking wears off just because you’re young and new, you figure out that safe sex is boring and unsafe sex is stupid. So it’s really a catch .22.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 08:00 PM
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There are definitely some variabilities. Like, sex with an unenthusiastic/lazy woman is barely worth doing. If it’s with a condom, I’d rather just jerk off frankly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 07:56 PM
2

Not really. No one wants to go back to dating in their 40’s. Most people are willing to put in more work when they know dating will be harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 09:29 PM
3

It doesn’t have anything to do with morality. It’s about the odds of being happy and getting what you want out of the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 09:17 PM
2

Who said anything about virtue?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 09:08 PM
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How did we even get here? The whole point of the conversation was that older women are harder to impress. If you’re just your genuine self, you’re simply more likely to interest a younger women. Everyone puts their best self out there at first. We all know this. Who tf claimed we were trying to be some “hero”?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 06:36 AM
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Yet women will be the ones initiating 4/5 times, and especially if there are aren’t kids involved because the “spark” just isn’t there anymore. I’ve seen it happen at least 3 times among my friends alone. I say it’s dumb every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 06:34 AM
9

No one can keep up being fucking perfect, what are you talking about? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 06:28 AM
2

Lol that’s bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 06:23 AM
18

I have nothing to do with how other men have treated women. All I do is assess my options. I’ve witnessed women leave for no reason plenty of times too. Divorce is always a risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 05:07 AM
13

I mean, yeah. It is most certainly harder to make an impression with someone that’s likely already been through the wringer. That’s a significant amount more effort for someone who’s probably worth less effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 04:55 AM
13

Well yeah. A lot of women stay attractive. They’re just usually not as attractive as they were in their 20’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 04:39 AM
5

You mean like physically?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 04:37 AM
77

Men don’t like starting fresh with older women. Entirely different from growing old with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 04:27 AM
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They probably do because they have options. Men can’t afford to automatically cut out options like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 09:11 PM
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Exactly. Because arguing exceptions is pointless. You can find exceptions to nearly anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 09:10 PM
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Everyone is shallow to some degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 06:38 PM
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We’re all shallow to a degree. Women being shallow is just more normalized.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 06:38 PM
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By and large, women care about height. Men care about weight. Speak of exceptions all you like. Your 5’11” friend (well above average) doesn’t disprove what I said. I said men’s preference lands in the average. 5’-5’7” which is MOST women. Say it’s rude or shaming. Women don’t mince their words on apps either. But no matter how you phrase it, men are 100% shamed for their preferences. Men and women are both allowed to have preferences. It’s just a disproportionate amount of flak that men get for…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 06:37 PM
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Men don’t have height preferences. Or more accurately, we do, it just lands in the middle of average, so it’s not an issue. The fact is that men were shamed first. You can scroll through any dating app and find loads of women with height requirements. This is seen as normal. If a man puts “no fat women please”, he’s considered a shallow pig. They are comparable precisely because it’s what we each value.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 06:09 PM
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I want that. A woman that wants to be a stay at home mom works out great for me. Most of the men in my field are the sole, or at least the primary provider. There are lots of men that love their family, and are working constantly to provide for them. You’re breaking it down to logic. But it really isn’t a logical urge. As for “what if she demands more?”. Tell her “no” lol. As long as you’re providing a comfortable life, all the basic amenities, and no one is even close to going hungry, she doesn…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 10:04 PM
10

Fucking demolished him, damn lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:11 PM
2

You do you boo boo
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 10:33 AM
4

Most men need more practice with step 1
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 10:31 AM
7

Obviously. But that doesn’t give you any idea on how to do better.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 10:30 AM
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I ain’t reading all that. But I will give my personal experience. Women have never given me good dating advice to get dates in my life. 90% of advice people give in general is “be yourself” or “just act approachable” which means pretty much nothing. Women simply do not know how to make an approach because it’s not a skill they’ve ever had to learn. Women give decent relationship advice once you’ve already established the relationship. But they won’t help you get into one.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 03:10 AM
2

One person doesn’t represent the entire idea, and it’s disingenuous to suggest that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 06:47 AM
2

People travel to sight see and do things on their own all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 06:05 AM
2

I’d probably just hang out wherever I am. I wouldn’t be going for the sole purpose of finding a wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 05:11 AM
16

Because the end game of real PPB’s is to date and possibly marry foreign women because dating in the west has become so hostile and difficult. Sex tourists give all foreigners a bad name.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 11:12 AM
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Just a smidge 🤏
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 05:49 PM
20

Ban all dating apps except free government ran one that doesn't use predatory algorithms.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 02:05 PM
1

I feel like most “biological clock” talk with men has significantly more to do with them not taking care of themselves. Obesity, poor diet, bad habits I.E. drugs, alcohol, smoking. Etc. All had more time to do their damage by the time you’re 40-45. Testosterone levels have a lot to do with fertility, and more factors affect it the older you get. But no one is looking at guys in fantastic shape at 45 saying “but his biological clock is up” or “he’s not desirable”.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 01:30 AM
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Same reason women are repulsed by men with low self esteem or self control, but will still sell them nudes. Just because you hate the game doesn’t mean you won’t take advantage. Not that I think Tate genuinely cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 10:59 PM
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A lot of women make a huge swing after 30. My mom did. Most women I know have.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 11:57 PM
3

You know what? That’s entirely true. But when you literally don’t have the option at all, that hits different. That’s when men being single isn’t the same as women being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:33 PM
2

Say you’ve never been lonely or touch starved without saying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 07:43 PM
0

Can’t really do anything but meet an insult with an insult when you don’t make a point. I guess I could just report the comment. But that’s not particularly productive either.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 10:35 PM
2

Tell me you’ve never dated women without telling me lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 10:33 PM
0

😂😂😂 massive assumptions you’ve made there. Pretty pathetic tbh. Responding with personal attacks on a debate sub, you already proved the type of person you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 10:16 PM
0

Well, sorry. That’s not our fault. Women play with the word “no” constantly to not sound like a hoe. Blame them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 10:14 PM
0

And you sound annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 08:12 PM
1

Depends. 4 or 5 in one day? Could be bullshitting. 4 or 5 over the course of a few weeks? Maybe not bullshitting. Either way, there’s always the possibility that you’re lying. Not saying you are. But if that particular dude has been strung along, friend zoned, and used for free dinner very much, they’re probably just gonna assume you’re not interested in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 07:46 PM
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Every guy wants to be the exception. A lot of women say they’re “waiting” or “conservative”, then sleep with you that night. We literally have to ignore what you say, see what you do, because MOST women lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 07:40 PM
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If that was the standard, there’d be no issues. I’ll let you in on a secret. Most single, even “successful” men, still only have sex a couple of times a month, unless they have a regular fwb. The thing that bothers most is other men that are more successful, talking it up about how many women they get, rubbing salt in the wound so to speak. If promiscuity was looked down on and discouraged, while courting and waiting were expected, men wouldn’t be as bothered, because that’s the standard. The me…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 03:20 PM
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The issue is for most men is that you need to show you’re wife material and actually serious, quickly. We need some sort of reason to pursue you. Sex is easy to get. If investing my energy into you is taking that away from me, I need something to show for it. Another issue is that women make rules for guys they don’t feel that strongly towards, while they break them for guys they want. Is this a universal truth? No. But we’re dealing with modern dating. If you’re making me wait 3-4 dates and giv…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 02:55 PM
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The age and what comes with it (wrinkles, looser skin, streaks of silver) aren’t the problem. It’s when you stop caring about your body at all and just let yourself go. Stay in shape, eat right, and you’ll be fine. Same goes for men too honestly. When women say they don’t want some gross 50 year old, they’re talking about the dude with a beer belly and bad skin. Not the guy with a six pack and 20” arms.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 07:49 AM
1

Choices and nature. As it stands, the law is fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 07:37 PM
4

Sometimes people just don’t match I suppose. If I’m willing to wipe it off and go back in for her to get hers, I’d expect that same energy. If not, oh well. I guess it won’t work.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 11:20 PM
2

Well, she can always suck it if she just taps out too fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 09:53 PM
9

Probably on myself. Something would have to be going on in my head that’s my own problem for something like that to happen. Idk how a woman would be “too spent to continue” though. Never had that happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 04:46 PM
1

Yup. Never something I’ve actively tried for. But it’s happened. I had one especially bad run, where my ex that I still had feelings for, got married. Shortly after, my identity got stolen, I got fired for something that wasn’t my fault, and then my brother died. So yeah, I needed a pick-me-up that was low effort because frankly, I didn’t have the energy for anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 08:30 AM
3

Absolutely. Although, what’s more telling is how they describe their ex. If they do nothing but shit talk their ex, and they say their ex was the problem while they did nothing wrong, that’s a big red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 05:04 AM
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It’s just how the ignorant vent their frustrations, when the world is unfair. They have to blame someone. There is literally no way to root out the evil of the world. Women are mad because they're usually victims. They always have been, always will be, and we’ll always be more sympathetic towards them because they're essentially defenseless to men in the moment. That's why you don't really need to take it personally. Just say you already do your part, and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 06:22 PM
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I’ve stopped caring about women’s (in general) opinions on men. Men are always the ones holding other men accountable. I’ve seen cousins, brothers, friends, and fathers, line dude’s out that sent their girl home with a black eye. When we catch it, we’re almost always the ones doing something about it. There's a whole “pedo hunter” trend on Tik Tok right now, which to my knowledge is made up of men, beating the shit out of pedos. What they want is “to be taken seriously” which has turned into “be…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 06:04 PM
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This is the biggest cope I’ve ever seen. Women opting to be single moms just shrinks an already small dating pool. I don’t like fat girls. There goes 1/2 the population. I’m not picking up the responsibility for someone else’s kid. That removes a significant chunk of women that would otherwise be solid prospects as well. Just making it harder to find a good partner at the end of the day. I genuinely couldn’t care less who single moms are fucking. They HAVE to put out. I can’t see any logic at al…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 07:16 AM
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Good question. If they’re an upstanding adult, and doing alright for themselves, then probably not. If they’re a junkie, alcoholic, or something that’s taking a significant amount of a mental toll on me, and the only reason I’m doing it is because they’re my family, then yeah, I’m probably not dealing with them anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 06:18 AM
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I’m not gonna go so far as to say infidelity leads to future infidelity because I’ve witnessed it still working out. But it couldn’t be me. If she cheats, I’m out. But there are a lot of dudes that will deal with it. Especially if they’re batting out of their league.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 06:05 AM
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Got’em. You said it best.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 11:59 PM
1

Don’t forget game nights with the boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 11:42 PM
1

That’s a stereotype we’ve mostly gotten away from. Men were expected to have kids just like women. Now, most men don’t. If a guy has kids nowadays, most of the time he wants to be there. Whether he’s the primary breadwinner or sole provider, most dads want to be there if they chose to have them. Women and children are always held with more value than men. Capitalist system or not. That’s just human nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 10:40 PM
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If the guy doesn’t wanna be a dad, then sacrificing time isn’t really a sacrifice. He may have just had kids because his wife wanted them, there was an accident, etc. But around half of women don’t seem to want kids either. So it’s equally not a sacrifice. Dads that want to be involved are making the sacrifice. Women that wanted to be mothers are making the sacrifice. Trying to keep it equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 06:51 PM
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They work more hours and longer on average. It doesn’t stop men from having kids. But it does cost them being fathers. That’s not any better. Neither problem is lesser. Just different. The main thing is the pressure. Men don’t have any value to anyone other than their parents, unless they DO something. You’re working to have a good career because of some internal motivation. Most men are doing it to feel worth something.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 06:39 PM
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Gun to my head, probably May. •Not waiting until marriage to have sex. •Not bad attitude and high body count. •Not dealing with a party girl that regularly ghosts me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 02:25 AM
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It doesn’t help that men are usually worse at articulating their feelings. Which is why couple’s therapy also tends to alienate men to some degree if the therapist can’t account for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 08:25 PM
2

How old are you? Because you’re either young and inexperienced or actively avoiding the points I’m making.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 08:06 PM
2

Not saying that can’t be. Just like I’m sure some men benefit from therapy. But I’m mostly speaking in generalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:29 PM
1

I’d have to dig around. I might later.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:28 PM
6

Pretty widely known that women feel better by talking about an issue, while men feel better doing something. That’s literally why men have to learn to ask “do you want me to listen or give suggestions?” Usually due to relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:27 PM
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Women also tend to prefer women therapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 06:19 PM
5

You can talk about problems you can’t solve all day. You can solve problems without ever talking about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 06:18 PM
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To point 3. a lot of therapists have stated that therapy in general, has been failing men for a long time. It’s very centered around the feminine process. So only some men would find it helpful and likely not the toxicly masculine type. At least not without some very specific therapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 05:40 PM
1

I wouldn’t recommend it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 05:04 PM
2

I have literally never cared how much a girl made in the slightest. We may be hypergamous. But it’s for youth and looks. Not money and status.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 01:29 AM
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I’m not saying there aren’t problems with it. I’m saying that “Men can’t provide by themselves” isn’t going to be one of them. Your specific job being unfilled or poorly filled isn’t going to collapse the economy. The sudden shortage of workers probably will. If people could within a decade, suddenly afford a family on one income again, birth rates would likely go up too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 11:37 PM
1

Men can work in witsec though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 08:33 AM
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Right. Classical RP is just a more realistic and stoic take, rather than the near black pill that it’s turned into. I don’t disagree about an initial collapse, and the housing market being a policy issue. But your sort of job has no real significance in infrastructure. Not saying it isn’t a good profession to have around. But comparing it to laborers, sales workers, and the already short staffed medical field is a little silly. Companies will either pay or go under. Workers make more when there’…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 06:55 AM
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“Redpill” is just accepting what the vast majority of women want. Embracing the reality of the situation. The new redpill has basically turned into hatikg on women and making men pretty much hopeless to sell their pitch. On a side note, women equally flooding the job market is a large part of why wages stagnanted. If women collectively said “fuck working”, the half of the job market that's left would suddenly be very valuable to a desperate job market. Not that this would ever happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 05:21 AM
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Classical red pill. What it used to be before dickheads like F&F blew up.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 04:33 AM
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Likelihood of successful poly relationships aside, “non-monogamous” couples have children with their partners and have fun on the side. In fact, the main condition of most of those relationships is “don’t get pregnant/don’t get anyone pregnant”. You’re the side piece. Not the primary partner. A few exceptions don’t make the rule either.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 09:02 PM
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Because you’re being a side piece. The buck stops there. If all you want is sex and some affection, that’s fine. I don’t think anyone cares. But you don’t get to build a family. You’re not ever going to be a priority. You won’t get to experience being someone’s person or having that person. If that’s okay with you, then go on with it. Couldn’t be me though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 09:35 AM
1

That may be true. But unless you’re deformed, generally someone will find your face attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 06:34 AM
1

It gives a solid 2 points
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 05:35 AM
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There aren’t any exceptions to this rule. If you stop giving someone what they need, if you change in a dramatic enough way, then that love can/will fade. Otherwise, it’s blind devotion. If your definition of love is blind devotion, that’s a bad way of thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 08:44 AM
12

Then I guess love just doesn’t exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 08:40 AM
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Every relationship is transactional. It may not be materialistic. But when one party stops getting what they need for a happy relationship, it starts to degrade.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 07:17 AM
2

There is a such thing as “too much”. Most dudes with a lot of muscle that can’t pull thought that the muscles would magically do all the work. They do not. But they help. Especially if you have abs that aren’t solely because you’ve been 120lbs since high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 06:29 AM
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You’ve gotta cast the bait for the fish you wanna catch. I personally, like muscle mommies, with those watermelon crushing thighs, that are built like mewtwo. The natural obvious overlap in interest is the gym. I like to go to the gym. But if I didn't, and I still wanted that type of woman, I'd go anyway. Because that's how you meet and get that type of girl. Also, muscles are an underrated bonus. But not being obese already puts you in the top 1/3 of the population. Women 100% like that you can…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 06:11 AM
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What else are you supposed to do? You can’t control women’s standards. They’ve been trying to control men’s standards for a long time through shame, and it hasn’t really made a dent. It’s like a game. In the end, you have three options. Lower the difficulty (date women you aren’t very attracted to. Stop or play a different game (passport bro route) Git gud That’s all there really is to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 09:13 PM
1

Boo hoo. You can’t control what other people do and think. If they aren’t touching you or in any way encroaching on your personal freedom, get over it. In an ideal world, anyone could wear whatever they want, do whatever they want, and act however they want, and not be judged or harassed for it. In the the real world, if I go jogging through the park in a banana hammock and a stringer top, I’m probably getting the police called on me. “Every woman has been harassed while fully covered in baggy c…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 08:49 PM
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If a woman is actually over 30, I get that. I'm still never dating a single mom. But I get why they have them. That 18-25 age group is what concerns me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 04:00 PM
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And yet we’re against shaming promiscuity and being a glutton. You just make a solid case for men to leave the U.S. and I don’t blame them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 03:44 AM
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Not a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 09:26 PM
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If “don’t be fat”, “don’t be mentally ill” , and “don’t have a shitty attitude” are high and entirely uncontrollable standards, then you see why men are looking elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 09:58 AM
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My point in saying that is that the dudes who don’t even fit that criteria are having a significantly harder time. If you’re looking to settle down, finding a women worth doing that with is exceedingly difficult. Actually locking down a relationship is a whole other challenge.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 09:41 AM
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Well, we’re at near a 50% obesity rate. Something like 65%-70% overweight. 1/3 women are on some sort of psychotic meds (mostly anti depressants I think), political division is so ingrained, that if you aren’t 100% aligned, they’ll move on, and the most basic aspects of showing care for you partner (packing a lunch, doing laundry now and then, etc.) even when you’re the primary breadwinner is labeled as “being his mom” or “wife only services”. So, the number of desirable women being as small as …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 09:17 AM
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Have you lived in America? I promise you, it isn’t just the clowns going elsewhere. I’ll shit on sex tourists too. But going somewhere else to find a wife with a level head is just a legitimate option imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 09:08 AM
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Lol what’s with hating so hard on these women? Most of them are intelligent, multilingual, and there's nothing wrong with their current situation. The Philippines, Taiwan, Japan, Vietnam, and a lot of smaller countries in Eastern Europe are full of women that are just looking for good men. The reason you go to other countries isn’t because you want to take advantage of some poor borderline slave. There are just more suitable options. Especially if you’re not into fat chicks or women with a huge …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 09:04 AM
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He was not. He’s straight with everyone. Just because the vids of him giving women a dose of reality are the ones that went viral, doesn’t mean he didn’t do just as much for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 08:04 PM
2

Same
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:32 AM
4

The mods should add a “Kevin Samuels RP” and an “F&F red pill” flair, or something similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:25 AM
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There’s a stark difference between people like Kevin Samuels and F&F. Classical red pill ideology is just based on the reality of men’s experiences, usually told by older and wiser men that built themselves up. Modern red pill is full of half truths (which defeats the purpose in the first place), to get clicks and views. I feel like we need to define the difference. But I’m not sure how I’d go about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:05 AM
1

That’s fair
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 05:08 PM
1

When you view parenting and staying with the person you chose to marry as obligation rather than an option, you can make things fairly happy, even when the circumstances might not be.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 04:56 PM
1

That’s probably how it ends up in the long run. If it keeps things amicable, I don’t even necessarily think that’s wrong if you’re staying together for the kids or something. My point though, is that it’s a much more difficult issue to overcome once it’s made public, vs when it’s a private matter between the two of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 04:44 PM
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I guess it’s a boon then that an older man that’s in really good shape is considered a good catch, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 04:35 PM
4

It’s not quite that simple. A lot of women will be with a cheater, know he’s cheating, and convince herself he’s not. That’s why so many get so pissed at the messenger when you tell them. They’re forced to face that reality. Just my personal experience though. Take it with a grain of salt.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 03:58 PM
1

Just make life more peaceful.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 08:07 AM
6

There’s the big one. Assuming you keep yourself in shape, it’s not a big ask to not be obese. People just like to say “Well I’m old now. I can just let myself go.”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 07:23 AM
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What advice is there to give if you don’t know the other person? “They’re too old for you”? They know how old the person is. What they might not see is ill intent. But unless you know the person, you don’t know either. At that point, you’d give the same advice whether there’s an age gap or not, right? If they’re an asshole, age really doesn’t matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 07:21 AM
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I don’t personally care. From my pov as a man nearing 30, my dateable range is, and has always been 18-32ish. In my experience, age is a clue to someone’s maturity. But I’ve met too many mature 18-21 year olds and too many childish 28-32 year olds, to say age alone is a deal breaker. I don’t think most people “aim” for an age gap. It just kinda works out that way. At the end of the day, adults are free to do what they like, and any discussion of “power dynamics” are stupid and pointless. It’s ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 07:16 AM
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I've been told I look like Chris Hemsworth, and I’ll tell ya, most dating advice you get as a guy is worthless no matter what 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 03:24 AM
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I wouldn’t exactly call it “sexual discipline” when the woman asking is just ugly and hard to look at.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 09:42 PM
0

If you’re a 7/10, but you won’t settle for less than 6’+ wealthy man because you know you can get him to fuck you, your standards are deluded. But anyone can be as picky as they want. I’d argue that kind, attractive, childless women from 18-25, probably have the most right and reason to be picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 03:17 PM
1

It’s also not a set in stone thing. I can go multiple times a day every day or just a few times a week. Haven’t found an upper limit, although it probably exists. I’m just not gonna go weeks without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 08:42 PM
1

Yeah, I used to do all of that. Life got a lot better when I stopped worrying about it. Except squeezing through places, because y’know, what else am I gonna do?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 06:09 PM
2

Why’s that?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 05:58 PM
2

Let’s see. Height: 5’-5’11” (I’m 6’2”, so it doesn’t really matter) Build: Muscular, athletic, lean, thicc (not chubby), petite, and generally healthy are all welcome. Ethnicity: White, Asian, Latina (not a deal breaker.) Age: 18-32 Relatively pretty face. No prior kids, but wants them. Don’t be a hoe. Have a job of some kind. Don’t really care what. Matching sex drive. Don’t be mentally ill. Be nice, and easy to get along with. We should make each other’s lives easier, not harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 03:51 PM
21

Well your first assumption is wrong. Most men watch porn to different degrees, especially as teens. They just don't develop an attachment to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 05:07 AM
1

These things come in cycles. More importantly, any belief that is anti-relationship and anti-child will die out in a generation or two. These people learn these things from unhappy parents that caved to social pressures. The happy parents that genuinely wanted families will pass that onto most of their children, and the cycle will repeat itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 07:36 AM
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I mean, it’s a preference. It’s not for everyone. But it’s nothing to be ashamed of.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 04:07 AM
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Yes and no. I want the final say on most big decisions in my life, because I'll be investing the most, generally. There's a mutual respect. But its not 50/50. It is, by definition, submission if you agree to those terms in a relationship. “Submission” just has a negative connotation because people jump to forced submission, rather than a trusting and willful submission to someone that wants to lead their household.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 01:08 AM
3

Well of course. I understand the concern. There are 15 year olds nowadays out here looking 20. They’re bound to attract some sort of initial attention. But generally, high school age is a hard no for most men. If nothing else, because they’re annoying. And you say that. But dudes still get dragged for dating a 20 year old when they’re 30 because of the assumption. That’s just idiotic to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 05:27 PM
3

And I’m sure there are some men that would. That’s just a very low number. Genuinely ask yourself how many grown men you know irl that would date a 14 year old vs men that would kick the other guy’s ass for dating a 14 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 05:24 PM
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I’m not saying some men wouldn’t go younger. But I think it’s dramatically less than what the people who make those arguments think. Most men in our 20’s and 30’s just don’t really consider age. My acceptable range has been 18-32 for my entire adult life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 04:36 PM
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I don’t think it’s a desire to actively date them. My issue is with the misuse of the term “pedophile” to try to try to make it sound more dramatic, and saying that any dude dating an 18 year old would “go younger if they could”. The mentality of the people that are vehemently opposed, and acting like certain adults only have autonomy when they agree with their choices, just rubs me the wrong way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 03:43 PM
2

My problem is the precedent it sets. Cheating is essentially just hurt feelings. I realize that’s over simplified. But at the end of the day that’s all it is. If we start sending people to jail for hurt feelings, that’s a slippery ass slope. On top of that, if it results in a pregnancy, sending the parent to jail, which would end up in them losing their job, and making it more difficult to find another due to the new criminal record, would be pretty counterproductive for the well-being of the ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 05:38 AM
4

Tree, definitely lol. I don’t have to console the tree about how my feelings make it feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 06:39 AM
2

I don't understand the point. People will just lie. And if they're not negative, people will just assume you're lying anyway. I'm 6’2”, 30, and 220lbs, and athletic. Anyone that assumes I'm an asshole will assume I'm ugly and unsuccessful with women, regardless of the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 08:12 AM
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I guess I’d have to ask how much he puts himself out there. I was essentially in the same position (not blonde). But I still had some success every now and then. Online dating sucks. But it’s better than nothing. You get a bite every now and then. It gets significantly easier when you pass 25, it feels. Also tell him if he wants success not to mention his lack of experience, or he won’t get experience, unless the girl is specifically into that. “Fake it til you make it” all the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 07:58 PM
1

The men that give them the power are simps. Men generally don’t like simps.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 07:29 PM
1

I’ve never been rejected that way. I have however seen a couple of men get rejected that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 06:44 PM
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Lol who said they don’t want to date me?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 02:53 AM
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Can confirm there are women that think like this. That’s why my female friends are typically “friends” and nothing more.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 02:14 AM
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She’s probably not deranged. She’s probably just young.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 02:13 AM
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Well she’s correct for casual sex. An attractive warm body is plenty for that. For a genuine relationship though? Peace… Make my life easier in some way. Wether that be taking the load off on cooking, chores, organizing, or whatever it is. Cover my weaknesses. Be that “other half”. When the difficulty of maintaining a relationship outweighs the peace you provide, you’re gone. That’s it. I’ll fuck a 10/10 girl with a bad attitude. But I don’t care about keeping her. I’ll marry the 6/10 that packs…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 02:11 AM
1

Well again, I never figured it out. One day things just flipped and got better. Women I had been with couldn’t give any ideas either.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 06:49 AM
3

That’s true. I’m more fortunate than a lot of guys. Which is why I feel bad for them. I’m just saying 25% is a good rate lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 03:28 AM
2

The amount of dates I’ve gone on in my 20’s that didn’t go anywhere is high. Some even had the audacity to say “I don’t know how you could still be single.” Never understood why I got ghosted. Even the women I’ve been in relationships with had no clue. 25% is a very high success rate lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 03:25 AM
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Still in my 20's. Almost 30. Idc really. Never have. 18-35. I don't really expect it to change. Age is a clue to a person's personality. But it isn't an instant deciding factor for me either.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 03:23 AM
1

You’re lucky af lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 03:20 AM
5

It’s got a dose of realism in it. If you’re consistent in your line of thinking, it can be beneficial. All “red pill” means at its root is to recognize the reality of the world and how the dynamics of men and women are, then doing what you can to capitalize on it. There are bozos in the space like F&F that are straight up trying to profit off lonely men, while practicing precisely zero of what they preach. A “real” example of red pill thinking was someone like Kevin Samuels (RIP). Kevin Samuels …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 02:00 AM
2

Lol try dating living in the middle of nowhere. Never been on a date in my adult life that I had to drive any less than 45 minutes for, and rarely had them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 07:43 PM
1

Okay. So as it relates to a “hive mind”, if you’re going to recommend a strategy to market to women, what’s the better strategy? To really flesh out, explain, and make a case for the product, or get the most famous woman you can find, to endorse it for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 05:52 PM
1

Well let’s be real. Most people are easy to manipulate. Women just tend to be more influenced by each other. Unless there’s a male equivalent to things like “Stanley Cup” trends that I’m unaware of. Like yeah, we don’t put a lot of thought into things. But we also don’t tend to care. If we need a thing that isn’t a machine, we get the cheapest serviceable option, usually. But by all means, I’m interested to hear it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 05:17 PM
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Lol no. It’s because women are easier to manipulate as a group. Biggest example of this is in marketing, and how it’s mostly geared towards women. I’m no professional, so I can’t say why that is. But I have to assume it’s more because you don’t need to appeal to reason as much as emotion for women. And emotions are easier to manipulate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 04:24 PM
2

They both have pros and cons. Given the choice between the arrogance that gets claimed as high self esteem, and low self esteem, I’d rather go with the low. I can at least help her improve to feel better about herself. You can’t fix arrogance without making your partner feel bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 03:11 PM
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Idgaf what women say about it. I’ve been with women that “didn’t care about muscles” and ended up telling me how much they liked them. Also made matches on dating apps go up quite a bit. There’s a threshold. If you’re slamming 800mgs of test, you probably passed that aesthetic look a long time ago. But if you’re natty and muscular, it’ll never be a downside unless they’re just self conscious.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 04:11 AM
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I don’t disagree. But to most people that use the term “punching up”, that means straight (white usually) males are all fair game. The whole thing was ridiculous anyway. Women on the view aren’t doing their own chores or cooking either.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 08:13 PM
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I agree. Misandry is acceptable because these rich old ladies are “punching up”. Couldn’t be me though. If my wife went on live tv, and made it sound like I’m less than a functional adult, I’d probably be out of there. Especially since their husbands are highly successful, and generally respected.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 04:15 PM
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You’re welcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 09:15 AM
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<image> Here brother. Take this to throw at people.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 04:44 AM
1

There are a lot of guys making fun of them, saying exactly that, and more.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 09:33 AM
14

A break doesn’t change anything. As a man, opportunities don’t typically just fall into your lap very often.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 09:18 PM
28

Depends on the context. But in dating, I think it’s more of a hindsight thing. Like yeah, just because I paid and did the things I was supposed to, doesn’t entitle me to sex. But if I keep doing that, I’m spending all this money and time, I’d start wondering wtf I’m getting out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 03:28 AM
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On the one hand, no one is in the mood all the time. But there's a pretty wide gap between wanting sex but not getting it, and having your needs neglected. Like yes, I would happily receive a bj every day. I don't feel like I need anything but a couple of times a week, minimum. There's also something to be said about doing the continuous bare minimum, and how that stacks up over time. All that being said, yes, it is your obligation to make sure your parnter’s needs are met in a monogamous relati…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 03:39 PM
2

Then you’re not big enough yet
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 01:59 AM
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I’ll add it to the main post
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 09:15 AM
1

Jesus Christ
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 08:23 AM
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I’m sure. A lot of it is people adding in circumstances that weren’t stated though. They’re also assuming the worst of the man while assuming the best of the bear. Which isn’t really fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 05:18 AM
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If you ran into 100 men in the woods, you’d likely run into ones that would protect you before hurting you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 07:11 PM
2

It’s literally just satire
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 06:18 PM
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Assuming I entertained it, even agreed, what’s the point of this conversation? Even if the average man were more of a threat than the average bear (They aren’t. This is purely a proportion difference), what is anyone supposed to do about it? This is just hyperbolic nonsense to virtue signal and piss people off.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 02:57 AM
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And they’ll do nothing. I’ve seen a dude call the police to get his ex to let him have his kids. The cops told him to just leave. Essentially, that she’s the mom. So there’s nothing they would do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 07:20 AM
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Well that’s simply not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 06:59 AM
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They want rights to their kids. Just because, mom takes care of them, why is it okay to straight up keep them away from the father?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 05:45 AM
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Misogynists will tell you they don’t hate women, and still have less vitriol in their claims than feminists do about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 06:56 PM
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Well I got the info directly from the guy. I just didn’t dig and interrogate him about it. Just got the key points. It was ongoing at the time. That’s when I heard about the fact she outted herself. The only bit that I heard from someone else was that the charges were dropped not that long after heard everything from him. But like I said, by that point, it had already been going on for a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 11:29 PM
2

You mean the case, or me getting the info?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 06:36 PM
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He didn’t get convicted because there was no evidence, and he had an alibi. The cherry on top was that they proved she was lying because the dumb bitch couldn’t keep it to herself. She texted someone about it, and it made it back around to him. I don’t know all the details. I’m not close with the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 10:21 AM
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I know of one that lied and said the dude that rejected her, raped her. Cost him his reputation, a lot of money to fight it, and about a year and a half of having to constantly defend himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 08:42 AM
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Depends on their ego. Some are fine. Some get ANGRY. Petty too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 08:40 AM
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That’s not true at all my guy. Average income compared to 5X the average income are two different types of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 12:55 AM
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Kinda true. It’s not usually the fact that she has those qualities. It’s the attitude those qualities usually create. Why deal with a high maintenance career woman, when I could date a girl equally attractive, that loves me just as much from a Starbucks or something? On top of that, if she’s better than most men, they’ll just bow out because it honestly isn’t worth the hassle of trying to keep her.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 12:53 AM
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Let me just put my situation out there, because I’m unsure of what you mean by 50/50. I want kids. I want them to be raised by me or my spouse, rather than a daycare, which would mean quitting their job. Whoever the stay at home parent is, should be doing more of the house/kid work. As I see it, I’ll likely be the financial provider. If my spouse can make more than me, then have at it. I’ll stay home. I just doubt that’ll happen. I actually want kids though. I want to teach and spend time with t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 12:45 AM
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They went back and copyright claimed all their jubilee videos. Aba said they aren’t taking the videos down. They’ll make it legal. So he’s not backing down.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 08:13 AM
1

Did you see the Jubilee strike shit going on?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 07:18 AM
1

Never heard of contrapoints. I’ll check them out. I watch most A&P and Shoe.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 07:17 AM
8

People really do hate on analogies. Not being able to compare people to anything other than people kinda defeats the purpose of analogies.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 01:44 AM
4

You talking about the “key opening any lock is a good key, but the lock opening for any key is a shitty lock” one?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 12:46 AM
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I feel like this comment section is much more unanimous than when I asked the women… funny how that works… But obviously the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 06:47 PM
1

It varies. The really crazy ones are saying in the same room. More understandable ones are usually referring to “somewhere in the forest”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 10:48 PM
4

Hard agree
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 10:25 PM
2

Yeah, it’s popping off a lot the last week.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 10:24 PM
1

Maybe. But if that grizzly bear wants to interact, you are F U C K E D.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 10:23 PM
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I’m not dismissive of shit. I’m saying that men aren’t all predatory. In fact a very few are. A MAN saved your ass. I’m saying that prefer if to be forced into contact with a random bear over a random man, that’s stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 10:21 PM
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Men DO mostly leave women alone. You just run into a lot more of them. If you were going to run into a million grizzly bears in your life, you probably wouldn’t last long.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 01:57 PM
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Not very often. And not anywhere I’d run into a grizzly. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 01:55 PM
2

In what regard? Why look up a town in Canada?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 01:54 PM
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I hope so
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 12:19 PM
2

It’s relatively recent. I’ve seen a few tik toks and Facebook posts with large comment sections. I couldn’t say just how common it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 11:24 AM
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Idk. Mine was on Facebook. A post with about 1000 comments. At least as far as I read, it looked like women straight up agreeing. No satire detected.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 09:03 AM
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How often have you been eaten alive to think rape is worse?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 09:00 AM
3

Never heard of him, that I’m aware of.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 08:50 AM
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could humans be worse than a bear? Sure. Would I gamble that out of all the random men in the world that could be there, you end up there with Vlad the Impailer, Caligula, or Hannibal Lecter, over the AVERAGE bear? No. That’s irrational. Bear attacks aren’t common because people aren’t hanging around bears. If every man in the world suddenly turned into a grizzly bear, your life would get significantly worse very quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 08:49 AM
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Women have been far more oppressed, with far more violence committed against them in the past, and along multiple different cultures. You’d be hard pressed to find a woman so stupid, that’d rather hang out in a room with a bear than a random man.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 08:42 AM
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That’s irrational and dumb
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 08:37 AM
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My point is that the women that say this know zero about bears.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 08:34 AM
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Oh gee. I wonder why that would be? Maybe because you’ll pass 1,000,000+ men in your life and MAYBE 2 bears if you’re VERY outdoorsy? 🤔 Honestly one of THE dumbest arguments I’ve ever heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 08:27 AM
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Unless your luck is so bad, you ended up drawing Vlad the Impailer, I don’t think it’s comparable.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 08:19 AM
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There are levels of bad things that can happen to a person. Rape, although serious and traumatic, is still several tiers lower that being filleted and eaten alive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 08:14 AM
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Ma’am, if you think climbing a tree will save you from a bear, I’ve got some bad news. https://youtube.com/shorts/j6uQBaIridM?si=zVlw2L-F00VxTXhk https://youtu.be/cdpLOG-ehSI?si=lDaKFZrp56zqHaEV
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 08:09 AM
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And it’s stupid. Getting eaten alive is arguably the worst way to go. They’re being overdramatic af.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 08:08 AM
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Lol no, not yours. I completely understand the passport bro mentality. I just mean the women’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 07:26 AM
3

I just want to hear the rationale
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 07:16 AM
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It’s satire holding a mirror up to women to show them how ridiculous they sound, even if you can strip back the tone to make it sound rational. The fact so many women are so butt hurt by it is hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 07:54 AM
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Doesn’t matter how much you say it. Women still fall for men that are using them regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 09:01 AM
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I’m not now. I’m more interested in long term. But I was. I’m sure most of us have been at some point. Some guys don’t settle down until we’ll into their 30’s. As for reconciling wanting to sleep with women, and wanting to settle down with a woman that doesn’t sleep around, we view hoes and wife material two different ways. The reality is that a lot of women sleep around whether men would want them to or not. They always have, and at worse times in history to be a whore than now. That has no bea…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 02:28 PM
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Oh lord, where to start? That “all women are a little crazy” conversation is usually between father and son. You’d probably know nothing of it. It’s also usually prompted by mom/sister/aunt acting super emotionally towards something that doesn’t make sense, and the kid asking “what’s wrong with them? Why aren’t you acting like that if it’s so bad?” It’s not outright disrespectful. It’s more of a “we love them in spite of things we don’t understand” sort of thing. Which brings us around to why so…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 06:08 PM
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Well, there are a few reasons for men. I'm not going to speak for women, as I am not one. Those of us with parents that have been together for 20-30+ years usually have a dad that tells us “all women are at least a bit crazy”, which conditions us from very early on to accept, understand, and deal with behaviors modern society tells us are “toxic”. We don’t expect women to be emotionally stable, better yet emotionally regulated or intelligent. We're either proven right or wrong when we start dati…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 03:28 PM
0

Reality is often disappointing
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 10:56 PM
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The short answer is “yes”. Red pill is a philosophy that is being mishandled by grifters for gain. The fundamental aspects of red pill don’t require you to bash anyone. It’s merely accepting life for what it is in spite of people preferring to lie to themselves and others.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 09:11 PM
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If you don’t drink, you’re just a creep hitting on drunk women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 01:45 AM
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Well that’s not very realistic. I don’t think near 50% of the population has ever engaged in prostitution at the same time, unless you’re really reaching and saying that because someone did it once years ago, they’re now part of the 50%. If you’re going to form an argument, be realistic about the prospects. If we legalized and regulated prostitution across the board, what would happen? Then base your argument on that. What would happen is it would still be a relatively niche thing. Brothels woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 10:13 PM
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Well you’d have a hard time making it any more prevalent than it’s ever been in history, because most women don’t want to be prostitutes. Define the “prevalence” you have in mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 04:26 PM
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Your whole argument falls apart because society already had prostitution for most of human history. Along with that, our modern day prostitutes are OF hoes and strippers. Not to mention actual prostitutes do exist. It’s not hard to pay for sex if you want to. It’s just illegal. So the people that could actually benefit, are likely not going to do that. If they’re too shy to talk to a woman, I doubt they’ll commit a crime with less than trustworthy individuals. Your whole assumption leaves out th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 03:56 PM
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Lol it's not irrational. All it takes is a girl regretting, being crazy, or just straight up trying to cover her ass to fuck up your life for the foreseeable future.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 11:29 AM
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Do you think any of those require being a creep? Some people are actually just crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 11:10 AM
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I mean more the fear of being accused of doing something you didn’t do. Or worse, actually being assaulted.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 10:59 AM
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Next time a problem pops up, YouTube tutorial it. Maybe spend some time with her dad and learn from him. He sounds like a good guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 09:09 AM
5

There are a lot of more consequential “fears” being forgotten here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 05:49 AM
1

A father figure is a role model. For better or worse, you’ll be compared to him. If it bothers the guy, he needs to learn to improve. No one can afford to be broke and not somewhat handy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 05:28 PM
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Because the only significant difference to men between friends and relationship partners is sexual attraction. Women seem to place men in boxes in their mind. It’s hard to get from one box to another box once you’ve been designated. Men have a ladder with different thresholds. You can easily ascend or descend the ladder depending on how you act, how you improve, or let yourself go. For most single men (and even some in relationships), the only thing that keeps sex with an attractive friend off t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 04:58 PM
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Any instance, huh? So morals just don’t exist? Now, if you said men cheat more, the more their options open up, I’d be inclined to agree. But most men, in general, are pretty against rape and abuse. Even the worst men are against child predators.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 07:17 PM
1

The projection here is real 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 07:12 PM
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Well maybe we just have different definitions. You say “chase”. I say showing appreciation. Thing is, most of us still don’t want to do it. We do it to make you happy most of the time. That’s not necessarily a bad thing either. From my perspective, if I feel like I have to chase you, then I’m inherently doubting how you feel about me. If I’m doubting how you feel about me enough, then I will remove that stress from my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 07:17 AM
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No man likes a chase that never ends. Sure, it’s a little exciting at first. But once a relationship is established, no one wants to play games while they’re trying to build a life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 07:06 AM
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Honestly, I hate that it has to be that way, but it’s true. Relationships always have an “adorer” and an “adored”. It doesn’t mean the adored doesn’t love the adorer. But the adorer obviously loves more. Men like to ride the emotional high of deep love. But women NEED that emotional high most of the time. On the other hand, the adored involuntarily has the control over the relationship. Most men want that bit, while most women don’t. At least not for a long term relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 07:00 AM
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Because simps will always exist. There’s no point in trying to stop them because they’re already the lowest on the todem pole. The worst thing they can do is exist the way they do in perpetuity, so there’s minimal leverage to get them to do anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 03:21 PM
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In short, no. That’s why men are complaining. Because women just as readily date bad men with those traits as good men with those traits. I don’t care what women say. Actions speak louder than words, and I’ve witnessed plenty.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 08:01 PM
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Agreed. Being 6’2”, athletic, and making money, are now the bare minimum. I decided “fuck that” because they want interesting and exciting. I want relaxation and peace. If you're like that though, you just have to wait. Dating gets easier as you get older.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 07:17 PM
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It’s the aesthetic and novelty. It’s the same way I wouldn’t functionally care for having a girl with gigantic tits bouncing on me, slapping me in the face every night. But I certainly like looking at them. They’re an eye catcher. Problem is that the penis is both aesthetic and functional. Women won’t compliment the dude with a regular sized dick print in gray sweats like they will the guy with the third leg, even though, functionally, most women couldn’t handle the third leg guy, and would feel…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 12:33 AM
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Well the answer to your question is yes and no. Dating is an economy. People have value to other people. Let’s use our real economy as an example. How about scalpers? They’re not doing anything illegal. They’re just playing by the rules to make money. It might be their only source of revenue. As a libertarian, I believe it’s their right to do that. As a critically thinking person with some sense of morality, I still think they’re enormous pieces of shit. Dating is a lot like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 11:48 AM
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They most certainly can be. They just usually aren’t. I can understand wanting an egalitarian society. I can’t understand being a feminist with the message they currently spread.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 10:52 AM
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Date for what you expect. I’m good with a relationship or for a one night stand. I’ll sleep with a girl. But if I feel like I’m less the exception and more that’s just how she operates, I’m not going to take her seriously. Women that are actively looking for a relationship aren’t sleeping with every dude they kinda might like. Ngl it’s straight up hypocritical of me. But you can be hypocritical in your dating preferences. I’ll take what I can get when it’s easily available. I won’t deal with it …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 06:18 AM
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You are absolutely correct
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 06:42 PM
0

Honestly though. Just means she isn’t interested and things are e going nowhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 06:42 PM
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Precisely
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 10:26 AM
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There’s just something off putting to me about trying to court a girl that fucked some other dude the night before, and probably will after your date.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 10:12 AM
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I treat women differently if I know she’s sleeping with other guys. I like hot women. I’m under no delusion that they’re not fucking who they please. But if it doesn’t stop before I meet her, I’m not taking her seriously. If fucking who she pleases means a large number of guys, I’m especially not taking her seriously. And if she’s putting out for other dudes but making rules for me, I’ve got no business with her. You can focus on one person at a time. If we click, and I’m not your ONLY romantic …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 07:48 AM
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