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-1

i was offering a counter-narrative to the "feminists just keep reminding survivors of how they are victims" thing that's going on here, i can completely acknowledge that people have different experiences when it comes to assault and dealing with the aftermath of it but that's not the impression i'm getting from this thread
/r/MensRights22/12/12 11:27 PM
-6

it's a good thing i never said it did
/r/MensRights22/12/12 11:22 PM
-1

accusing me of lying about my friend's rape is an unfounded accusation and completely arbitrary because the entire reason you've decided it's fake is because her experience doesn't jive with your girlfriend's experience and by extension, the experience you expect all rape survivors to have fuck your papers, fuck your experience, why don't you just come right out and accuse me of lying? stop hiding behind this shit and say it
/r/MensRights22/12/12 11:20 PM
3

and once again, if i were to say that in my experience mras are big fat phonies and therefore i should discount your girlfriend's rape, i'd get my throat shat down the only valid rape is a non-feminist rape, eh?
/r/MensRights22/12/12 11:11 PM
-5

well for one my friend's family is pretty traditional and about as far from feminist as they can be, i can say this having met them as for everyone else, fuck if i know but her experience with feminism was pretty much the first time she understood that what happened wasn't her fault, that she wasn't the one to blame for her assault, the exact opposite of the narrative everyone else had been telling her
/r/MensRights22/12/12 11:02 PM
0

i would never lie about sexual assault and i never even implied anybody here would but it's nice to see we're all on level grounds here cool bro and i guess it does sound unlikely if you think rape survivors are never blamed for their rapes but i guess my friend's experience isn't as credible as your girlfriend's experience for whatever arbitrary reason you've decided
/r/MensRights22/12/12 11:00 PM
-6

as opposed to what you and that other guy who said "shitthatneverhappened" just did?
/r/MensRights22/12/12 10:53 PM
-1

yea but if i outright state that you're lying, i get piled on right?
/r/MensRights22/12/12 10:47 PM
-3

this is all some elaborate troll, isn't it? i'm tagging you as an srs troll, it's the only explanation
/r/MensRights22/12/12 09:21 PM
-4

you have given no reasons at all, except accusing me of thinking there are no rape survivors here (something i never said) and telling people that they have to think of me before they think of themselves (ditto) once again, you are just looking for a reason to be angry
/r/MensRights22/12/12 09:17 PM
-12

seriously man there are so many other people you can choose to pick a fight with but you decided to read some shit i never said in my post and i guess now i have to suffer your wrath oh no
/r/MensRights22/12/12 09:12 PM
2

what no it's not that it's bad that women have relations with men, it's bad that the majority of representations of women in mainstream film define them according to their relations with men it's like how a black character dying in a horror movie on its own isn't inherently problematic but when considered in a wider discussion on the representation of race in hollywood films, there's an issue there
/r/MensRights22/12/12 09:10 PM
-17

nah i'm pretty sure now you're just looking for a reason to get pissed off, i don't have to fuck off, it's reddit and free speech and all that
/r/MensRights22/12/12 09:05 PM
-24

it's a good thing i wasn't
/r/MensRights22/12/12 08:52 PM
3

it's a quick and easy way of looking at the representation of women in film and can be a starting point for an advanced discussion thereof that's it, it's really simple, it's not a scientific test or some shit and it doesn't tell you if a movie is sexist or not
/r/MensRights22/12/12 08:23 PM
-12

that's cool and all that you think that but when my best friend was raped, it wasn't feminism telling her that her life was ruined and beyond repair, it was her family, her friends, the police, her doctors etc and feminism actually helped her recover but what the fuck does she know, she's just a rape survivor, she doesn't know as much as some random person on the internet who has assumptions about what feminists think of rape
/r/MensRights22/12/12 08:19 PM
3

your mother, trebek etc etc
/r/MensRights22/12/12 07:57 AM
0

thinking about OPP is still thinking about genitals sooo i'm not really seeing the distinction, be it the person bragging about their sex or the person who wants to stop people from having sex due to religious reasons, it's genitals all the way down
/r/MensRights22/12/12 02:27 AM
-6

i think you're really underestimating the extent to which regular people care about sex and the body parts used for those acts
/r/MensRights22/12/12 01:53 AM
2

eh i guess it depends on whether or not you think that would lead to more shootings as opposed to more people getting harmed during a shooting, the tweet's vague enough that there's really no clear way to read it i suppose but i definitely don't see it as saying anything about how men can't get raped
/r/MensRights22/12/12 01:51 AM
2

nah i definitely agree that this sort of stuff requires a nuance and finesse that you're not gonna get on twitter and its 140-character limit
/r/MensRights22/12/12 01:48 AM
-9

as opposed to non-feminists who never talk about dicks and pussies?
/r/MensRights22/12/12 01:38 AM
3

nah i don't see it as a compliment like notice that she specifically chose louis ck as opposed to dane cook because then it would backfire
/r/MensRights22/12/12 01:37 AM
1

eh, i think it's both, the eventual conclusion is that the nra's idea makes no sense
/r/MensRights22/12/12 01:29 AM
1

the implication is that gun violence doesn't disappear if you give everyone guns, just as rape doesn't disappear if you give everyone a penis if rape doesn't disappear, it only makes sense that then people aren't impervious to rape, right?
/r/MensRights22/12/12 01:22 AM
-5

shhh don't let them know, they'd be too disappointed
/r/MensRights22/12/12 01:01 AM
1

related clip if she thought men couldn't get raped, then her anti-nra joke wouldn't make sense but let's keep raging 'cross america
/r/MensRights22/12/12 12:59 AM
2

nah the nra makes itself sound like an unfunny asshole pretty well on its own
/r/MensRights22/12/12 12:51 AM
4

you're telling me my life became so much easier when i learned the chrome url space doubled as a google search
/r/MensRights21/12/12 11:24 PM
39

men's rights activists are so extreme they make andrea dworkin sound like a comedian this isn't hard at all man
/r/MensRights21/12/12 11:19 PM
-7

yea this is pretty much what i saw her saying, that giving everyone guns won't stop gun violence just like giving everyone a penis won't stop rape maybe people shouldn't look to tweets with 140-character limits for nuanced political commentary? it's a pretty radical thought
/r/MensRights21/12/12 10:33 PM
5

Birth of a Nation is a work of fiction (yes it is) and that shit revitalized the Klan. This is the problem I have with these 'video games are art' people, in that most of them offer no critical thinking whatsoever (unless it's something really obvious like spec ops: the line) towards video games. People should be thinking about things like Modern Warfare because they're not just works of fiction, they're products that come out of a specific historical and social context. Nobody's gonna go 'Black…
/r/MensRights21/12/12 09:49 PM
3

jesus christ what an annoying website
/r/MensRights21/12/12 09:12 PM
1

that came out of a very specific context and they were hardly alone in their positions towards violence this is the same thinking that positions mlk (who was actually very radical, radical enough that he got shot) as the white-friendly peaceful alternative to the scary malcolm x
/r/MensRights21/12/12 07:14 PM
0

Black activists had (have?) the black panthers yea all that stuff about free breakfasts, the Black Panthers were totally a 'lunatic fringe'
/r/MensRights21/12/12 06:56 PM
2

he should make like a tree and get out of there
/r/MensRights21/12/12 05:28 PM
1

nah clint eastwood's the man but mel gibson suuuucks besides mad max so it totally varies on context, i can't just be loving any old masculine dude
/r/MensRights21/12/12 05:22 PM
1

it's not acceptable for anyone under 55 to wear a fedora
/r/MensRights21/12/12 04:49 PM
5

society probably wouldn't give a fuck
/r/MensRights21/12/12 05:09 AM
-6

rick perry is indeed 'testosterone laden' though somebody who believes teachers should carry guns really do want their dirty harry fantasies to come true and you don't get any more testosterone laden than dirty harry it also doesn't help that being all masculine and shit is part of perry's image
/r/MensRights21/12/12 03:46 AM
-8

so wait where's the slur?
/r/MensRights21/12/12 03:16 AM
2

i don't get it
/r/MensRights21/12/12 03:13 AM
6

that's cool you got jokes, whenever i think of a feminist my go-tos are angela davis and gloria anzaldua
/r/MensRights20/12/12 10:51 PM
0

sounds like this
/r/MensRights20/12/12 07:15 PM
-1

oh well when you put it that way...
/r/MensRights20/12/12 07:01 PM
-1

i was being sarcastic and i think men's righters have no problem appropriating civil rights and black oppression for their own gains shhh
/r/MensRights20/12/12 02:16 PM
3

not really this thing didn't fly when they said "woman is the nigger of the world", it's not gonna fly here
/r/MensRights20/12/12 01:01 AM
1

i don't give a fuck about that, i'm being very pedantic about what a hate group is and how an ideology is not a group if you're looking to start an argument about feminism, you've got that other dude down there to do that with
/r/MensRights20/12/12 12:23 AM
0

nazism is the ideology, the nazi party was the group i feel like i need to be incredibly pedantic here: nazism is an ideology of hate but it is not a group in the literal definition of a group, it's the set of ideas that a group followed
/r/MensRights20/12/12 12:19 AM
1

well since ideologies aren't tangible things in the sense groups are, they can't be considered hate groups now a group that follows a specific ideology can be a hate group
/r/MensRights20/12/12 12:16 AM
0

hitler had an ideology he also had one testicle therefore all ideologies have one testicle
/r/MensRights20/12/12 12:05 AM
1

i like fedoras of okcupid more because holy fuck who tells these people wearing a fedora is acceptable if you're not an old man or properly done by professional makeup artists and lighting
/r/MensRights19/12/12 11:55 PM
0

you tried too hard, man
/r/MensRights19/12/12 11:39 PM
1

uh men's righters are clearly inclusive of men of color, one time a black woman said "men are the new niggers" and elam was like "she said it, so i can't be racist" they also reflect the talking points of mitt romney and other conservatives by unironically believing single mothers create ghettos
/r/MensRights19/12/12 09:50 PM
1

if your standards for rap are extremely low and you squint your eyes a little, it almost sounds adequate
/r/MensRights19/12/12 09:39 PM
21

people in boston don't like anybody, especially other people from boston
/r/MensRights19/12/12 09:26 PM
1

this is some kinda of double-reverse troll or some shit since you accuse me of conspiracy theories in the same breath you go "single mothers are unwittingly responsible for the complete breakdown of the black community" they must be benefitting from that jay-z illuminati deal I also find it especially odious that you are insinuating that we should avoid specific topics for the sake of someone's feelings and fragile ego. good thing i never insinuated that at all
/r/MensRights19/12/12 02:27 AM
1

i always like this "single mothers create ghettos" talk because it's like right on the verge of being incredibly obviously racist it also acts like a pretty convenient way of not having to talk about things like institutionalized racism like guys don't you know if fathers came back into the home the poverty and joblessness affecting the black community would end? shit's magic
/r/MensRights19/12/12 12:43 AM
3

so just like reddit basically?
/r/MensRights18/12/12 01:03 AM
1

hahaha that's exactly what i was thinking of
/r/MensRights17/12/12 07:18 PM
1

i think a lot of what is considered masculine has remained pretty constant throughout the years sure they'll adapt to changing technologies, living environments, changing gender roles etc but there are like set values, values that john wayne, davy crockett, g.i. joe and such all share i'm just throwing out words and ideas here but i'd say john wayne is the ur-masculine icon, he's got all the right stuff and is just incredibly direct from thereon, one can consider how his individualism and patrio…
/r/MensRights17/12/12 07:04 PM
0

a black guy isn't going to be seen as the symbol of american masculinity and while there are parallels between the western cowboy and the gangsta, mainstream society sees the latter as a threat that can be exploited for entertainment john wayne and superman share many characteristics that are valued as masculine, you're getting too caught up in the specific symbol and not what he represents
/r/MensRights17/12/12 06:32 PM
1

Masculine ideals are ideals; we all live up to them. eh I dunno if it's that we all live up to them (and there are certainly men who do), more that we're expected to live up to them, it's something we as men should be striving for except for that guy down there i keep arguing with who just cannot believe at all that john wayne is a symbol of american masculinity, i guess
/r/MensRights17/12/12 06:21 PM
0

yea me using john wayne, famous american film icon, as shorthand for what characteristics are valued in a man is actually just a bunch of shit i bet if i googled "john wayne american masculinity" i'd only get like two hits
/r/MensRights17/12/12 06:11 PM
0

fuck me you wanna get pedantic? okay "this is the model of masculinity straight white american boys are told to aspire to, perhaps not directly but through the absorption of the john wayne persona and all he represents into what constitutes american culture, identity and mythology" you're being pretty willfully dense here, somebody doesn't have to be literally telling you "be like john wayne" in order to socialize you with what are considered masculine traits
/r/MensRights17/12/12 05:50 PM
0

sorry you think john wayne isn't an american symbol of masculinity that doesn't pervade our culture and its understanding of what it means to be a man and that these are my "dumass beliefs" i don't know how much clearer i can make it when i say "this is the model of masculinity we are told to aspire to" like i can understand if you don't aspire to that shit, neither do i, but don't act as if you're immune to society's influences unless you don't actually live in america in which case disregard a…
/r/MensRights17/12/12 05:40 PM
-2

we're told, even if not directly, we should aspire to cool quoting brah what makes you so special
/r/MensRights17/12/12 05:30 PM
1

well yeah i imagine it's more difficult to go on a killing spree with a knife like i'm willing to say something like this would have happened even if the guns weren't there and that guns don't kill people but people wouldn't be able to kill people so effortlessly without them redefining masculinity isn't the solution, there is no one single solution
/r/MensRights17/12/12 05:26 PM
0

that's the idealized mold we're told, even if not directly, we should aspire to
/r/MensRights17/12/12 05:22 PM
-1

i never said guns were the cause but the country's attitude towards guns is one element out of a pretty complex clusterfuck
/r/MensRights17/12/12 05:18 PM
-2

american masculinity
/r/MensRights17/12/12 05:16 PM
-3

well guns made it so that he could more effortlessly kill children
/r/MensRights17/12/12 05:09 PM
-3

haha michael moore is fat
/r/MensRights17/12/12 03:59 PM
9

see this might be too subtle: he's leading you in with a intentionally provoking headline (Time to profile white men?), signaling at the position many of his critics assumed him to be arguing then he goes on to show that the headline is false and he doesn't believe that at all but that we must examine the double standards at play when acts of violence are committed by white men as opposed to non-white men
/r/MensRights17/12/12 03:53 PM
1

http://i.imgur.com/Cb7ZZ.jpg
/r/MensRights17/12/12 03:18 PM
7

agent orange is clearly the gary webb of our generation edit: /s
/r/MensRights17/12/12 03:10 PM
4

you're right, america's glorification of violence and love of guns has nothing to do with anything
/r/MensRights17/12/12 02:36 PM
-1

that's cool, it's still possible for a black person to be totally ass-backwards about race disclaimer: i am black, my shade being along the lines of a chocolatey ice cube
/r/MensRights17/12/12 02:16 PM
1

Nah I think gamers were pretty desperate to erase any conversations around racism and RE5. Gaming media really dropped the ball in that case and what could have been a pretty interesting discussion just became trolls trolling trolls.
/r/MensRights22/10/12 04:35 AM
1

Like I've said, I don't care whether or not the game is racist, that's someone else's battle. I'm more interested in how the game juxtaposes imagery that can be considered racist with real-life atrocities and a ridiculous presentation. I just want gamers to actually think about the shit they play in a scenario outside of "this game wears its message on its sleeve, therefore it's one of the few games that has a message." Like I could totally buy that RE5 is about racism and not an example of it b…
/r/MensRights22/10/12 03:39 AM
1

You claimed it was about "zombies" before people needlessly introduced race into it duh. Zombies are like the least political movie monsters ever. That the game takes place in Africa is not some meaningless detail, especially when the game relies on real-world issues related to real-world Africa in order to establish its horror scenario. Pharmaceutical testing, Western imperialism, even AIDS all play a role in how this game establishes its story, aesthetics, everything. You're also convinced tha…
/r/MensRights22/10/12 02:31 AM
1

Peter Jackson's King Kong uses the same racist imagery of degenerate spear-chuckers but follows it up with a scene where the greedy director character creates a stage show with blackface actors donning grass skirts. It's self-reflexive, see? But I like that you went from talking about how it was fantasy and just about zombies but now you're talking about some perceived reality. I don't even hate RE5 ¯\ (°_o)/¯
/r/MensRights22/10/12 02:22 AM
1

Hispanic isn't a race either. Racist imagery is two words actually and I don't care about the creator's intent. A game that visually quotes Black Hawk Down is inherently about race, hth It's like "whoa what racist imagery is there in Black Africans regressing back into wearing tribal garbs and throwing spears stop saying the game is racist you"
/r/MensRights22/10/12 02:01 AM
1

Because Spanish isn't a race. And zombies can totally be about race. Ask George Romero. Once again, I don't care if the game is racist or not, I only care that it's employing racist imagery. My favorite moment is at the beginning when you come across a group of men beating something in a bag. You don't know what the fuck is going on, if they're infected or not, they just stop and stare at you. Now that's some Heart of Darkness shit.
/r/MensRights22/10/12 01:56 AM
1

Because it exists in a very specific context and draws upon racist imagery. Like I said I don't care whether or not the game is racist, I care to what end it's invoking that imagery. The switch from, say, Spain to Africa makes these two similar but distinct scenarios.
/r/MensRights21/10/12 09:18 PM
1

That seems like a pretty arbitrary decision though. Like I haven't played Spec Ops: The Line but it seems like a case of "well this is clearly saying something because it's dealing with serious issues in a serious way". Resident Evil involves a ridiculous scenario and is clearly "not meant to be taken seriously". In film terms, it's the "it's not trying to be Citizen Kane" argument. A game that involves a Western pharmaceutical company using Africans as test subjects couldn't be about nothing, e…
/r/MensRights21/10/12 05:40 AM
4

Pretty much. Even something like Resident Evil 5, which people viciously tried to depoliticize after the controversy, is saying something via it's "evil white guy comes into Africa and fucks it up" Heart of Darkness scenario. It all goes back to people wanting video games to be considered art but not wanting to do the leg-work in proving how these things are art.
/r/MensRights20/10/12 07:14 PM
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