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Sure pal. “Pretty average”.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 11:22 PM
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I find it so funny women never judge women, even though there is a clear judgement to be passed. You all just hate men. It’s okay! Men are then in the clear to hate women as well. Btw the correct answer was: she could have like not engaged with him as a mockery? And women who do that are completely in the fault when they bitch about the guy rejecting her? That’s the answer you could have given to hide it’s not about hating men for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 11:05 PM
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Hmm let me put it like this: I am not attractive and I am not in power of shit. The majority of guys never are.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 10:29 PM
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If women refrain from having sex with these guys - women are gatekeepers of both relationship and sex. And images do get ruined. So yeah: men don’t control shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 10:23 PM
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They don't. That's a fable we tell so men feel in control of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 10:02 PM
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*Women. Women do all these types of things. They decide the dating market. If they change, all is saved or ruined.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:26 PM
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In this example: should the deadbeat guy feel responsible because his wife cheated on him? That’s the suggestion you make.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:18 AM
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Mmmm honey bunny, let’s go off and marry! Wait… you are going to run away with my money again, aren’t you? ;P
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 12:35 AM
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Hehehehe good. I like you. If only all women were like you, I think women were halfly decent. Unfortunately they are not. I say halfly, because well: women are inherently manipulative. And so are you unfortunately. It’s a shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 12:29 AM
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I will. In the meantime: don’t complain you’re lonely. You’re spoiled. There is a difference. Women are disgusting leeches, and I don’t actually understand why men would put effort in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 12:25 AM
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Maybe. I like the idea of dropping out and hanging with my homies better. Why put in effort if it doesn’t show in women’s attitude?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 12:22 AM
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No. I'd say women deserve what they have, and barely that. Let them change the attitude first, then we can discuss compensations.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:37 PM
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Men don't have that privilege most of the times.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:33 PM
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Delusional: you are a woman who believes there are no decent guys around. High standards: you believe you can lower your standards if you are really lonely and accept your loneliness is the consequence of a personal choice. Most women fall in category 1, most men fall in category 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:32 PM
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Hmm nope. An emotionally healthy women will try to fix it. A woman who cheats is solely responsible for her behavior. It’s a deficiancy in her behavior. Stop using the “women are always victims”-narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 05:37 PM
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Okay, screw reality. Reality is whatever we find socially acceptable. So we should take a stance: it’s never morally accepted. These women aren’t fine in other aspects. They are manipulative.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:42 PM
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Right. But that sentiment is exactly what enables women to make that choice. “Oh he probably did it to himself”. No, women brought it to him. If she doesn’t try to fix the relationship, that’s on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:24 PM
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You very much legitimize some empathy for female cheaters and provide them with an excuse. There is no excuse apart from a deficiency in their character. End of story.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:11 PM
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Hmm no don’t throw the democratic argument. These women chose to be lonely. Then they should live with the consequences. Your behavior enables them to have their cake and eat it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:10 PM
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It doesn’t mean anything on the part of the man in this instance. A woman who cheats is responsible for her behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:09 PM
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Right. So we should rather judge cheating than give a cheater the benefit of the doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:08 PM
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Almost: “I don’t think cheating is okay for anyone to do for any reason.”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 12:30 PM
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Yes. It’s appalling to see how they keep defending “the right to cheat”.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:41 AM
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That’s okay. But they waive away their right to complain about loneliness. Because “lonely” women aren’t lonely: they are spoiled.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 08:51 AM
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Why are you so bent on defending women who cheat?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 08:50 AM
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Women who make it up as an excuse are horrible don't get me wrong and they're perpetuating their own problem because instead of talking about it and inspiring competence in more men they just go back to that one fuckboy who knows from sleeping with so many different girls, of course that leaves the majority with no competence, because girls don't want to teach let alone talk with the other ones. It isn't about competence in men. You can't expect a relationship to stay spicy throughout the years.…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 07:59 AM
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I find it funny how a cheating man is often described as having a character flaw. A cheating woman is described as having a man with a character flaw. We can also just call it what it is: women who cheat are just pieces of shit. There is no need in understanding them anymore than we would try to understand a pedophile. The resentment doesn't lead to a woman cheating. A woman with a serious character flaw leads to a woman cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 07:55 AM
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I hope this isn't some sad attempt to justify female infidelity?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 07:53 AM
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It doesn't justify it. If men check out of the relationship, you break up. If you cheat, you are just a piece of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 07:53 AM
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The suggestion it’s a problem with guy’s personality instead of women’s choice of men, is an often-used blame the victim strategy. Could you admit women’s standards are too high? And women rather be single than be with someone in their own league?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 07:08 AM
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Hmm… don’t switch the attention here sweetie. There is nothing wrong with my personality. Women are just over-ambitious in their demands for a relationship. Nice try though!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:49 AM
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My ex cheated on me to "punish" me for going on a holiday. I had planned that holiday a few months in advance with my study associatio and it cost me a lot of money. Some days I had to choose between showering, pooping and sleeping extra due to the tight schedule. We slept with 8 to 16 people on a room and I had very little time to call her. I did share messages every day full with questions and things we were doing. She cheated on me and told me it was my fault for going away. She did so with a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 11:38 PM
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Wow. It´s so amazing, the harder a woman tries to scream I am wrong, the better she proves I am right. Thank you for doing that! I know what a schlub is, thank you very much. I just contest they exist. No one is actually boring without an other person to observe it. So it's always relative: perception, "leagues" and feelings of "inferiority" and "superiority" play a role. I tell you women are more prone to feeling "superior". Not wanting to date these people isn't a crime in itself. It's often t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 11:31 PM
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Hmmm it seems you haven't read my comment carefully. I tell you "Schlubs" don't exist. Less desirable people do. And yet: women are more likely to view another person like inferior. That's my point. If you weren't so far up your own behind about defending the female gender, you'd be able to read. Men at least can see "oh shit, I am fat. Yeah maybe a heavier girl is more for me". Women are so spoiled by online dating, they think they deserve a guy with a sixpack, six numbers on the bank and sixty…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 10:43 PM
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*The men without a big wallet, sixpack or political role. Fixed your vague sentence for you. I feel like women try to make their demands seem so innocent: "I just can't find a DECENT man!". The truth is there are a lot of decent men out there. But they may not be physically perfect. And they may not be rich. And they may not be a leader of some kind. It's okay. But at least admit you as a woman are opportunistic, competitive and condescending. It would save us a lot of discussion!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 10:33 PM
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*There is always going to be a man interested in dating a woman. These “schlubs” are people too. They have motivations, experiences and dreams. One thing I noticed with all women talking about men, is they rationalize treating ugly men poorly. For example: one girl I knew said she was doing “hunanitarian work” by talking to an ugly IT guy. The shock on her face when he told her he found someone more interesting was absolutely amazing. I think a world in which women were less arrogant, would be a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 10:14 PM
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I agree, but also think it's a bit more nuanced. Sometimes you are "friendly" not a "friend" with women you find attractive. You have to figure out if you are attracted yourself, but there is definitely something boiling. Also, some girls cannot simply give a "yes" or "no" on the spot. I think it's good to realise you don't braid each other's hair and go on sleepovers and tell your darkest deepest secrets if you think the girl is attractive. But at least drinking a coffee a few times is okay bef…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 10:01 AM
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HETEROSEXUAL women are terrible friends, most of the times, yes. Simply because they have the same negative assumptions about men that you have. Also, they tend to feel entitled to a friendship. For example: the same sentiment you display here. They don't bring a lot to the table, because they are used to men putting them on a pedestal for just existing. That doesn't mean there are no good heterosexual female friends out there! I started theater classes because of a cute girl. Somewhere in the t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:57 AM
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I also have to add: I am so annoyed by men being depicted as just being about sex. Weren't most love poems written by men back then? I mean sex isn't that important if you have a girl who smiles at you when you stupidly drop spaghetti on your pants. A pinch in your hand when walking across the street at night is worth so much more than a kiss to your penis. Her eyes looking for yours across the room and a hand through your hair is bliss compared to sex with a random stranger, which is much easie…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:51 AM
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Now that I come to think of it, I have seldom been attracted to girls immediately. And when I met them, I never described them to my friends as "God, she is such a great hole"... I often described them as: "She studies the same subjects; she has a cute smile and is a bit petite; She made a lot of references to some book - apparently she likes the same genre; Wow I am so stupid, I went to theater class because this cute girl asked me to... hey, I think I am actually starting to enjoy this one". O…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:46 AM
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I mean: a girl did something like that to me once. She then tried to contact me 4 months after. I thanked her and said I'd rather go do stuff with my new friends and wished her luck. I think it's a great choice to take the distance for him, but women just shouldn't be surprised if guys move on. "Friendship" is such a vague and broad label, I at least have never had trouble finding someone to call "friend".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:43 AM
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Yes. Thank you. I did so with that friend: I asked her out for a second time. She said no. I realised I just couldn't do it. For my mental health and to respect her boundaries, I had to go. In the future I will not ask a second time, but for some stupid reason I thought I had a chance lol. I guess reading social cue's is trial-and-error.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:41 AM
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Amen! I don´t get why people pull so heavily on their friends. A good friendship is mutual, equal and good-spirited. A friend recently accepted I was stressed for my thesis and actively engaged to keep in contact with me. I went to Pride with her and made a moment in my week to see her, without compromising my time. Neither of us want or see a possibility for a relationship: she is a lesbian, I am currently taking a break from dating after a rough period. I am happy with her. However, I did also…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:39 AM
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I wish it was easy to date. You blame these men and tell them it’s due to their personality. You fail to see their personality became like that due to their failings in dating. You confuse causation and correlation. And it’s a pretty common blaming tactic as well. I am telling you: your story about a loner sitting in his house all day and unable to communicate is simply not true. Hey, suit yourself if that’s the story you want to tell. I am telling you: women hold the key to solving that issue. …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 02:44 PM
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Uhuh sure hon. Just act like women don't have high standards. Whatever makes you sleep at night.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 02:13 PM
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I'll make it even better: I believe men equally want long-term commitment. Only they want more sex during that commitment. I do think women, again, tend to have higher demands for that sex and commitment. So high they cannot find someone to fulfill those needs and they will have to choose: sex or commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 01:51 PM
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Hm. It seems you fell victim to defending women no matter what. You shouldn't really blame the victim. It doesn't suit you. Look, it's really simple: women claim they have no "high standards", because they don't see their own high standards. That "disgusting" boyfriend, is a regular Joe and unfortunately doesn't look like Brad Pitt. It's a guy you and I would greet on the street. You also highly overestimate how much women help their guy friends getting a date. Some guys are just ugly, end of st…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 01:40 PM
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Yeah I know. I am currently working on something which demands a lot of my mind. Sorry about my writing. I claim: women have higher standards than men. Their claim there are no HVM-men, is bullshit. They literally created their own problem. So: I agree with OP. Femcells, are not a thing. Spoiled women are a thing though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 01:34 PM
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Hm yeah I am not that home in Incel terminology. Look my point is, if a man has no sex in general (so: not limited to the Incels who are only a small minority), most of the times they are not complete losers. Women just have high standards. For example: I know a lot of these guys who are brilliant in the discipline of geography. They are mapmakers mostly (or: GIS-specialists) and they are well-groomed, doing parttime jobs, have some form of responsibility (Oh fuck Jane did not do that analysis? …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 01:14 PM
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Right. But I can't find sympathy for that. You preach about "High value men". Spoiler alert: there are plenty of high value men around. The problem is: they can't all look like Brad Pitt and have the money of Bill Gates. Those men only exist in your dreams. These women suffer from their own standards. They have idealised their dream men. If they would settle for a man that is satisfying, instead of optimal, there would be no problem. You know, this kind of feels like a kid who is afraid he will …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 01:02 PM
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Try taking some acid. It really forces you to confront yourself. If you can’t confront yourself then what’s the point to your life? If there is none, max out some credit cards and go out in a flash of glory. "And if that doesn't work, write a whole post on Reddit. Trust me: Acid takes really really long to process. So after that you can also respond like an ass to your crazy post."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 11:39 AM
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They could. I never disagreed to that. I actively agreed to that. I just say: then you really don’t have a logic to complain. You found someone from the gender of your sexual preference and you could pair with them. You just chose not to. So you are not lonely. Sexless men heve a different issue: they can’t find a woman willing to pair with them. They can’t lower their standards further (most of the times). Your logic is so faulty you don’t even see me agreeing with you. You fail to critically t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 11:09 AM
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Yeah look you can hind behind some debate structure or “logic”-based answer, your comparison still doesn’t work. I assume if we are talking about heterosexual women, and the size of our society’s, there must be some men meeting the women’s criteria. Even considering men actually approach these women, these women complaining about no “decent men”, just doesn’t make sense. You come up with this whole story about women not “dating their equivalent”. No, we often use a market logic of supply and dem…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 10:57 AM
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That’s a faulty comparison. If you told an Incel there was a woman who was less attractive than his ideal, then it would be the same. And then I would also say: you, as a man, don’t have a problem, you are spoiled. I get these changes may take time. Still, it’s good to always stick with the truth: these people who refuse to “date down” aren’t lonely, they are spoiled. But then again there is the difference between Incels and Femcells: femcells can date down but just refuse out of entitlement, In…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 10:39 AM
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There are guys interested. Women simply don't see these guys because these women aren't interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 10:16 AM
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That's okay. But then women CHOOSE to opt out, a lot of men really don't. They are put on the sidelines and try to make the best of it. Women can participate if they want. So I don't really respect women complaining about having no man who can respect them. NO... you can find no ATTRACTIVE (to your standards) man who will respect you. BIG difference. So that's why I think Femcells are not really a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 10:15 AM
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In that case these men are often too attractive. They have stronger demands for a relationship and this girl should find another guy. Yet, because this woman has made up too high standards for herself, she remains alone. Women can and will find relationships with decent guys. She just has to be able to sometimes date less attractive men. I am not talking about complete ogres. I am talking about the guy minus the sixpack who is well groomed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 10:05 AM
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Hmm I am not a fan of insults. I am quite aware with all these discussions. And I just don't agree: femcells don't exist and this situation you sketch isn't the same as sexless men go through. Women can find a lot of men to respect and court her. They can't find ATTRACTIVE (to her standard) men to respect and court her. I'm sorry, but that's on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 10:03 AM
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Because it’s more about entitlement than about having no options. The girl believes she is entitled to better men. She can get a decent guy if she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 08:49 AM
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… You do realise a lot of unsuccesful men are succesful in other aspects like professionally and socially?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 08:48 AM
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It isn’t a struggle. Women can find relationships, if they are accepting of the men who offer them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 08:47 AM
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A femcel doesn’t exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 08:46 AM
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Oh well, let it exist. As long as we suffer, she suffers as well. I can live with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 02:14 PM
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Oh well. That's not our problem is it? It's theirs. We can just choose not to listen to women complaining or making this out to be a societal problem. It's a gendered problem on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 01:24 PM
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I agree with you. I think men should be more selective in which women are allowed in their lives. If you think about it, it really benefits both men and women. Men can have an equal relationship with women, and women can still have their ridiculously high standards. I still think the "pills" are good for figuring that out. I think a lot of men are done with the bullshit women give. I think men should really change in that aspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 10:08 AM
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I recently did. One of them girls came crying to my door and half of Reddit told me I cannot cut women who reject me romantically out of my life. Apparently I am the bad guy for having higher standards for my company. Because let's face it: male-female friendships disproportionately benefit women. But Reddit still acts like having heterosexual women around is still beneficial to guys for some reason. But it felt so amazing to cut them off anyway! So ... I recently found a lot of lesbian and gay …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 10:05 AM
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"Did a man post this?" > risk. "Is it not-woke?" > high high hiiiiiiiiiiiiigh risk. "Consequence": gather all men and put them against the wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 08:10 AM
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I wouldn't call Reddit a service for society. More a source of addiction and terror.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 08:09 AM
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Stop trying to act like these men have a personality problem. Women have a standard problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 12:07 AM
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As a man who built a connection with a lot of women, I still lost it to attractive assholes who would beat the living shit out of these girls. Stop trying to depict women as somehow less shallow than men: women are way worse. And they will only allow you to build a genuine, strong connection if they somehow find you attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 12:06 AM
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Cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 11:39 PM
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It’s true. It’s really weird lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 10:34 PM
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Let the world burn. The world brought in broken children and refuses to heal them, let them take the world or ruin it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 10:06 PM
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I am familiar with debate structure. Very familiar even. But the point is that some issues need to be settled emotionally. And this can be argued to be supported by the social sciences, where the practioners are very aware of the need for self-reflection, biases and privilege. I have recently read the article Missing Marcuses (: something something). In this article the author looks at the evolution of thought of ideological scientistis (read: use numbers to defend the status quo). And then he a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 11:30 AM
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Again, acting like the person making the argument doesn’t make sense, doesn’t make sense. In this way, feministic debate and arguments have been surpressed for a long time. It also excludes those who cannot make a strong argument due to a lack of education.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 10:38 AM
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Or women tell them to shut up and they actually listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 10:36 AM
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And not even all of them. Probably the ones with the need to talk on the Internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 10:35 AM
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Acting like the person of an argument is not important is bullshit. For example: there is this quote about who you can’t critize, it’s the status quo. People believed it was from Voltaire and then you believe he is talking about the upper classes and nobility. It turned out to be from a neo nazi.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 10:35 AM
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Is this how women justify taking a beating for the tenth time? Like it’s ok, but I hope you at least have the self reflection to know this is bull. If women select on attractiveness alone, that’s a-okay! But then they waive away their right to complain. They actively chose an abusive partner before a decent one because honka honka HE PRETTY!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 07:44 AM
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Well I only participated as I understood the rules. Then maybe you should clarify those. I think you aren’t an English teacher and you should believe me on my word.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 09:53 PM
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Well you have the side of "kill all men" and "if you have a penis, we put you against the wall". I thought this branch of feminism you support is a little bit less extreme and radical than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 09:45 PM
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Oh well, you see how hard it is for non-native English speakers. As long as there is no flair in there, there is no way for me to recognize it. Such is the nature of muddy debate we find in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 09:44 PM
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OP is right.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 09:02 PM
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I don’t think that’s an affirmative claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 08:20 PM
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Hey, I see your “person title” of “Egalitarian feminist”. You’re from the more timid side of feminism right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 08:03 PM
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What post flair?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 08:02 PM
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Not a controversial take at all. It’s simply true.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 07:21 PM
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I think it is. As current misandric mechanisms promote talking down on men and discourage talking down on women. Women simply feel entitled to being a victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 06:59 PM
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Agreed with OP. Women often play the victim part. It’s easy. But most of the times they benefit from it. I think if women took their responsibility, the world would be more fair than when women force men to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 05:33 PM
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People on these subs, health professionals and friends. Friends often have toxic views: “just stay friends with women and one day someone will like you”. Health professionals often agree with my coping and add some nuances: “it’s okay not to be dating right now if you have a thesis deadline and you get rejected anyway”. These subs often give general advice: “groom yourself, be nice, don’t put your dick in the toaster”.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 10:05 AM
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Eeeeeeeeeeehm THIS is borderline racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 06:15 AM
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Could be. Or you could then change male nature to benefit female nature the least. If I am going to suffer from their whims in dating, they can suffer from mine. There ya go :D
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 04:38 PM
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Good. And then still a part of accountability is the amount of empathy you give. They brought this over themselves. Part of the consequence is also the knowledge you did badly. I think that message can best be sent in informal ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 04:24 PM
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Don't call me buddy. Women have all the choice in dating and yet they choose the men that will leave them. That's on them. There are PLENTY of men who will stay if this shit happens. So yeah, I guess it is on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 04:04 PM
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Right. But women have a little bit more choice in this regard compared to men. So I think they can be held accountable as an individual for getting knocked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 04:02 PM
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haha well you are kind of funny, I give you that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 04:01 PM
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An anonymous forum where you get credits for your answers. So yeah it is still virtue signalling.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 03:51 PM
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You have to look at the context here. And women deliberatly choose a bad situation. It's their choice nonetheless, but one they should have to live with. No one get's a get-out-of-jail freecard.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 03:50 PM
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Again: women have a privileged position in dating. It's like they could choose a tea and instead they chose a whole bath tub full of coca cola. Somewhere they had to know what they did was wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 03:48 PM
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I kind of understand what you mean. Still: I had to make sure you shared my opinion. It's on the edge but not over.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 03:38 PM
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This is virtue signalling. I can for example still see a hobo as a guy named Pete and still see how his individual actions brought him into that category. The individual and the collective are nice analytic schemes, but they tend to flow over.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 03:37 PM
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What´s circlejerk?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 03:35 PM
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That's a different thing. A pregnancy can be reversed, an STD can't. You can take an abortion. You cannot get a cure against some STDs.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 03:12 PM
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Exactly. So why would I show empathy to someone that had all these sources and still fucks up, and would do it again?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 03:11 PM
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Good, then they are taking full responsibility for their faulty choice. As they should do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 03:04 PM
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It has little to do with "humanity" and a lot with seeing a person making the same mistake again if they get the same chance. Women just don't learn from their experiences in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 03:04 PM
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We don't. You should read OP's message more carefully. He wants to adopt Ultimate Responsibility in an utopic thought. So if he truely believes in Ultimate Responsibility, survivorism would be more important than social constructs like the law. But to draw it to the real world: I still think women are responsible for not getting pregnant. If you say "my body, my choice", you should also say "my body, my consequence".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 02:37 PM
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hmm no that's not what I said. Ultimate accountability in my experience is less about social desirability and more about survival. So in that case, a man doesn't have to stick around to survive. A woman needs to make a choice to survive or not have certain negative medical effects. Ultimate accountability would be for a woman to not get pregnant and deal with it. Don't use my words to argue the exact opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 01:19 PM
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Then it's not ultimate accountability you're after. Ultimate accountability would be highly individualistic and survival based. You are after a "just" and "equitable" world. Then use those words. Don't disguise it as something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 10:27 PM
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So in the end, women would be responsible for the pregnancy. If we really want ultimate accountability without socialistic ideas (which we shouldn't), then this is the outcome. Let's at least be honest about the meaning of the word: it's not ultimate accountability in the sense of being able to survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 10:26 PM
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“Ultimate accountability” is often a set of values hiding an ideological goal. In this case: protection of women. Don’t hide it like some individual virtue: it’s a political choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 09:40 PM
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It does. Re-read.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 09:34 PM
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You didn’t. Because your second message has a different message than the first one.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 09:32 PM
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Exactly. Women tend to be champions mental gymnastics at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 09:31 PM
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I’m glad you agreed with me!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 09:30 PM
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Ultimate accountability would be for women not to get pregnant. You still rely on social rules to force a man to stay. Ultimate accountability would look like: your body, your problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 09:08 PM
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So why are you trying to depict men as socially inept? My point is: you can be charming, emotionally intelligent and a great match. Doesn’t matter if you’re ugly. It’s more reasonable the women complaining here, are not complaining about men in general, but the men they found attractive. And you can choose who you date. I think women should choose more carefully or waive away their right to complain about men. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 08:59 PM
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I didn’t prove your point. Nice try though. I had sufficient interaction with women. It doesn’t matter though if you’re ugly. One thing you learn when interacting with women is they suspiciously look like men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 08:55 PM
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Oh well, half times zero is still zero. Boo hoo. At least I know it will be harder for women as well, so the finally get a ietsy pietsy bit of empathy for men. Not too much, a life time of manhating cannot be undone all at once.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 08:52 PM
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*The majority of women don't find men compelling enough. It's not really saying something about the value of these men. It's just women cannot value them accordingly. It's really sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 08:50 PM
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It's almost like women have no consistent reason to reject - other than physical appearances. Look: "treat her like just another person", "treat her specially". If women can discuss it for a while and then come up with a final answer, that would be nice, thanks. Other than that, I call bull.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 08:49 PM
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So to follow your biological comparison: I wasn’t worth the risk of mating to her. I found that insulting.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 11:30 AM
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It’s strange. I once had a friend who was even fatter than me. I had an awful time on Tinder. She had like 30 matches a day. She rejected me once she found Tinder — so I would say women feel too good for men their range.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 06:40 AM
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No I exactly understood your point, I just disagree. ​ It should be someone that you literally cannot see anything with. Just that you enjoy their company. And doing that will give you healthier relationships and understanding of women. ​ Yes that's called friendship. A lot of people have enough friends. They don't need more friends. They want a relationship. You just tell them to get more friends. That's like telling a hungry person to have a walk in the park. ​ I think it's probably the health…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 01:12 PM
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So while women fuck around, these men should just stay nearby for when the woman feels the man is good enough for her? Like some monk? Screw that! I think not having a friendship with women would also be healthy for men. They can still meet women in a distant way while not having to do the disproportionately emotional labor of facilitating women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 12:22 PM
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I am not sure what to say. I think it is very sweet of you to empathize with me. I have found a purpose. I am out to show the misandry in the current Western societies.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 10:01 PM
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Right, but most women don’t select on that and then do a big boo hoo. So I would get that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 02:43 PM
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To be fair I do have enough experience with them to say: they are often terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 02:41 PM
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It’s pretty much normalized, but I think you need to wait 20 years before public opinion on this shifts and we can work on it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 02:22 PM
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Ah yes, the negotiator.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 02:17 PM
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This answer is borderline crazy. “What will bring respecting myself more?”. For example, in my case, romantic rejection led to me rejecting women as friends as well. An eye for an eye. It opened doors as well. While I lost a friend, I got another friend in return (a lesbian girl).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 02:17 PM
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I know for a fact there is a lot of research on risk behavior in terms of smoking, alcohol consumption and deviant behavior (you know: graffiti and being a cool kid and stuff). Google "social capital" and "risk behavior". I believe parents play different roles based on their behavior - but it pretty much helps if both are present. Of course we can find cases in which kids from a totally fine family turn out a rotten apple. But - and here is the fun part - that's because the environment is not th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 12:14 PM
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hehehehehehe
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 12:10 PM
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Not necessarily anger. Just experience. It has taken a while for me to acknowledge these truths. And I wish I didn't have to find out.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 09:26 AM
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Why do women equate friendship with a romantic relationship? Is sex important, or not? I think they do find sex important. But women just put men who they do not find attractive in the "friendship" category. In my experience, it means: "You are good enough to do the emotional labor, but not good enough for all the other things a boyfriend usually does". Also in my experience, women tend to use men for other things as well. For example: driving them home at night, joining them in activities, some…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 08:53 AM
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ok. Whatever fits your narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:54 PM
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Sure you did. Goodbye Operapeach.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:44 PM
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Thank you. Go fuck yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:42 PM
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Uhu sure thing hon.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:42 PM
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Operapeach, now you seem the one to be following around. Can you finally give me compliment on men as a demographic? Unfortunately it's a truth many men know - yet I think there would be a riot if it would be captured in scientific research. Knock yourself out by finding a fun statistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:37 PM
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Because women tend to victimize themselves. They are also the ones more prone to be manipulative and believed. Oh and detail: they are the most privileged in dating. So a story from men against that status quo is against their power.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:07 PM
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Coincidence wink wink
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:06 PM
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No not really though. I don’t mind men hitting on me. Stop legitimizing women’s spoilt behavior. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 09:19 PM
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What’s not to understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 02:38 PM
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I don't think the like's attract. I believe you get what a) looks like you (what you say) b) what you accept. For example: I might attract a girl who will treat me like shit. But my experience with my ex can help me say: F- you piss off.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:45 PM
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Globalism is an anomaly Is it though? Global relations have always existed. Only before the 15th century, or even the 18th century, the Chinese and Indian rulers were a little bit stronger than the US in this regard. For example: the belt and road plan is a modern initiative to bring back this historical pattern. Europe, Africa and Asia always had relations amongst themselves. One thing you could argue is the extent to which these relationships go is unusual. There is wide concensus is due to re…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 09:19 AM
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A platypus? ANONYMOUS THE PLATYPUS?!?! Jokes aside: I think physical sex isn’t as important as a social connection. Yes! AI can offer you a connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 08:34 AM
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I really hope so. I think men may be better off without women in the long-run. Also because women's standards are incredibly hard. Men would be better off focussing on themselves and let women see the effects of their own behavior. In case everyone is happy with the arrangement: it was a win for society. In case women disagree: it would show a clear sign for them to improve. Either way, I think AI is a win to relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 09:56 PM
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:) then it won’t be difficult to stop with giving up all these matches! I mean: they don’t mean anyhing to you apparently. Otherwise: you are completely responsible for the bad things happening to you. You chose it!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 07:43 PM
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But it is much easier for some. Again don’t pat yourself on the back. You’d like to tell yourself you got success because of something you did. Yet, most people put in effort. Sometimes variables outside your control decide whether or not your efforts match the reward. That’s my point about privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 05:26 AM
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I know I wouldn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 10:13 PM
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You don’t know the first thing about me buddy. Again: there is definitely a system. And there is definitely privilege. Just because you have it easy, doesn’t mean it should be like that for the rest of us. Gtfo.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 07:40 PM
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What do you mean? I thought they call popular men "chads" here. Never mind. even if they all would have the same amount of options. No see, the guys with little to no options don't have the chance to fuck around a lot. It's like saying people without money spend like hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 07:03 PM
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What does that mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 07:01 PM
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"chads" Is Chad the guy who lives in the small house on the top of the hill? ​ If you are right, why would "top x" men have more sex than the average woman who has casual sex? Well, I guess because in the small time period in which they are looking for variety, they have women flocking to them. And maybe their "small period of fucking around" might be a little bit longer than average.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 06:42 PM
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Hmm distinction to make: men who want casual sex - just like women who want casual sex - would just try a wide variety for a short time, but eventually circle back to a type. Men who want relationships would become incredibly picky the whole time. I think more men would be just as picky as women if they had more options. So your statement would only apply to the first group, for a limited time only.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 06:09 PM
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I feel like after 22, all the good women are pretty much gone. From my experience ey. So... yeah I would have to settle in a few years. But... it is definetly possible to find someone better than your ex. My ex was too fat to walk the stairs, sex-obsessed and emotionally abusive and manipulative. If I find someone who just likes running (note: it can be really really slow but she has to be willing to try once in a while), I would be delighted. That should really not be that high of a standard: a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 06:05 PM
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They are. They just are incredibly picky because they have options. If men had options, they would display the same behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 05:55 PM
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Victimhood often comes from too much effort. People realise the system is rigged, no matter what they do. Actually, people who are more succesful are more bound to defend the system. They want to believe they worked for what they got, rather than it being the result of privilege. It explains your lack of sympathy and it explains why you close your eyes for the struggles men face. It simply shows you're an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 04:52 PM
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I know. I think we can agree on that: women don't bother us, we don't bother you. A society in which we live seperate would be amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 04:51 PM
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Wooooow. This is wild. Did you just dox his ass?
/r/AllPillDebate02/06/23 11:53 AM
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That’s a weird way of writing “experience”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 11:07 AM
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Hahaha nice try. I said they made it clear. Never said they literally told me. And “being a pushover”. No no no, that’s also not what I implied. Women try to manipulate and lie around, but I have my boundaries. Don’t you worry <3 You suggesting men are guilty of their own abuse? No. They are not. And victim blaming is never okay, buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 10:20 AM
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Most guys know what league they are in. Most women don’t. There are of course noteable exceptions like Forever Alone Women. Most women confuse sex with romance. They believe since they can punch higher sexually, these men will also get in a relationship with them. Thereby they think they are less average than they are. I don’t think I ever thought I had a chance on supermodels, nor feel a desire for them. Most women I dated were overweight as well and had similar academic interests. But women al…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 07:24 AM
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They are allowed to do so. But then they should also waive away the right to complain if it doesn’t work out. They actively chose for loneliness. Most women complain about how there are “no good men” around. They should also refrain from these complaints as it is really the consequence of their own actions that brought them to that conclusion. Not some deficiency in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 07:17 AM
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But we do know. Men are not less attractive than before. Women don’t want to “marry down”, and have been more succesful economically, politically and socially. This is also due to men who internalized this hate and supported women in doing so. Women always want to “find the better match”, and thereby create not only their own loneliness but also those of men. There is really only one culprit who can solve this: women. Women don’t want an equal, they want a “dad” who pays for their stuff and gets…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 07:05 AM
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Hmm people in power will not stop their behavior unless stopped or proven ineffective. I think raising awareness of women’s privilege in dating, and isolating women with unhuman standards is the best way to go as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 06:48 AM
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I think the entire pill spectrum is a reaction to women marginalizing and disrespecting men in society. Only when that stops, resistance against misandry can stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 06:15 AM
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It’s an example of what I wrote two messages above and of the guy responding to me. It’s complementary and illustrates the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 05:47 AM
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Not any man can get a partner if he really wants to. I am no loser in means of my other aspects in life. Yet dating is no walk in the park. Again: men are really the victim of women’s whims in dating. In return women can expect men to be whimsical in other areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 05:32 AM
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Nah, women should just choose their men better. Again: they have the options and power in dating. So they can change the game. If women don’t care, that’s fine! Men are allowed not to care about other things crucial to women in response. Respect is a two way street.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 05:30 AM
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It is: women have too much choice. They all flock to a small group of men. And thereby create their own loneliness. It’s not men’s fault women just don’t know how to choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 05:28 AM
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My ex decided to “punish” me after I went on a school trip by finding a guy from Tinder and fucking him.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 10:53 PM
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Victim blaming. You are one classy mf! Nah, the problem is with women: dating apps have inflated their sense of self to enormous proportions. They tend to have sex with the same guys. So a small portion of guys have most of the action. Unless women stop this behavior, a lot of men will be single. And that’s okay! But then I am happy to announce women create their own “Loneliness” if they say they experience that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 10:37 PM
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Yes. See? I knew you were a … well not smart but “special” fellow. Most guys are still pretty clear in what they want. Girls CHOOSE to ignore that and hope so desperately guys become friends with them. They do so to find an orbiter to spend time on them. It’s really pathetic. That’s why I think guys should just drop a friendzone.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 09:44 PM
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The main culprit for dating struggles is toxic culture … among women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 09:13 PM
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Men and women both care equally about that. Women just tend to have more power to be shallow as well. So women first choose a handsome man, then someone they have things in common with. Men don’t have that luxury. If one party ruins dating, it’s definitely women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 08:52 PM
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I think if that particular set of men you are talking about wouldn’t commit violence to women on a large-scale and actually leave women to fend for themselves, they would be more powerful. But let’s be honest: Incl’s are scary mfs who border trrorism. I for one love the idea of men just organising among themselves and just letting women be. Let’s see how quickly misandry vaporises in the air.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 04:58 PM
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Ghosting: never responding. Vague rejection: reacting to advances not by directly giving a rejection, but by something implying disinterest. Sometimes they also feign not to understand your intentions. For example: “hey Katy, do you want to have a coffee with me?”. Katy: “I am sorry, but I’ll be real busy this year. So I’ll see you at Roberts sometimes”.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 04:55 PM
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Well casual sex is one thing. Being social and outgoing is easier when you’re sexy. So… yes and no. It’s a case of: “hot girls are more probable to be into extroverted activities, but are not necessarily participating in them or the only members participating in them”.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 04:53 PM
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Victims of society and a social problem created by a society that doesn’t value health care. It’s sad, but I think sociologists can agree criminals are raised, not born.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 04:51 PM
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But the law doesn’t. And society doesn’t. So if a woman cheats on a man while he is working hard to provide for her, I think he has all the right to kick her out after she cheated. And it fills my heart with joy to know she is completely responsible for it herself. Again: you can try all you want, it’s still wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 04:49 PM
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That’s her problem. It’s his property. If she is cheating on him, he is allowed to dump her. Why wouldn’t he? Again: you are just blatantly justifying the idea of cheating. It isn’t justifiable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 04:35 PM
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They weaponizes the margin of a truth to win a discussion. In short: they don’t own the truth, so don’t give it to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 04:34 PM
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Hmm. So this is the game you play? Women have it worse than men? Look, she shouldn’t be in that marriage. And if she wants independence, she should take poverty like most men do it. It isn’t fair, yet poverty never is. My point: cheating is never justified. How hard you try to do it. The guy she is cheating with can take care of her. But now this woman is leaching of another man. If I were this man, I’d dump her.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 04:10 PM
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… so that guy can take care of her finances. Women aren’t owed a great financial life. Men sleep on the streets. I guess the woman from your example should consider that as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 03:41 PM
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Nope she isn’t. Women can try justifying cheating all they want: you’re still a disgusting person.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 03:40 PM
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So you realized these men didn’t give you what you want emotionally and suddenly less attractive men became good enough for you. That’s very mature of you to acknowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 01:58 PM
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Oh well I can agree on the first part. I can’t agree on the second part. Sexual capital makes women bang guys out of their leagues. So basically every woman you know has had more sex or more options for sex than you. Why would I take a more insecure sl*t if they all sold themselves for attention anyway? Edit: I mean … women say it a lot as well. Why would they settle on a less attractive guy if all guys supposedly suck? I think this same question can be asked about women. If they all suck, why w…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 01:11 PM
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I get that. But still: I want the security of a partner who can work in some field. This may be as art history major, it may be as hotel manager. But I want that security a partner can work. To me, it also shows they at least had one area of interest proven.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 09:08 AM
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My parents didn’t have a degree. And I saw the stress it brought. I am the first kid to go to university. I want a partner with at least trade school certificates. She can for example be a florist, or a hairdresser, but she at least should have papers so I know she took the effort of going through higher education. Although I much rather have a girl with a social sciences degree from uni, I also know a degree doesn’t necessarily reflect intelligence and ambition. It does reflect security and att…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 08:08 AM
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Must have a degree and not be a misandrist. All the other things are pretty much negotiable and dependent on how much they influence the chance to be active together.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 07:29 AM
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I don’t think it’s a general concensus on men. It may be a concensus on men on PPD, but even that’s not true since these men consist of different groups. I think it’s a very big assumption and it’s limiting the discussion you claim to start.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 06:34 AM
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Well you have to ask what these men are working for. For example: giving their all in higher education is often for intellectual stimulation and financial wellbeing. You want to be smart and rich. But, for starting new social contacts, sex might be a good and frequent driver. For example: I cut off a woman because she rejected me. Multiple women actually. They weren’t worth my time, since I have a lot of options for friendships with women, and they couldn’t offer me a real friendship or a relati…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 06:31 AM
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But you do virtue signal. You act like this is a discussion while you already drew your conclusion about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 06:24 AM
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And yet you start off your post about gender stereotypes…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 06:14 AM
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I think because women at some point realise they need to “settle”. Young heterosexual women do tend to exclude these men when they are younger. Then they see how they are treated by men outside or their league. Then maybe they’ll settle. I don’t think this proves as much as you think it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 06:02 AM
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Agree fully with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 05:20 AM
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She would be to blame, because she would create the friendzone. That is an inherently abusive situation. Basically your “friendship” isn’t equal anymore and girls know that. They’ll try to take advantage of you. They almost always do.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 04:57 AM
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Who says she will be shamed? I don't care about the body count. But if a girl feels too good for me, and then wants a "friend" to complain to about the guys she meets. Like: "why can't I find someone like you, but you know, more attractive?", then yeah I am not going to have empathy for you. That's my whole point: women could find a decent guy that is a little bit less attractive, but instead choose the more attractive guys that will leave them. That's okay, but then you lose the right to compla…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 09:58 PM
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Women who don’t have casual sex … with men in their league. Men are bothered by the fact dating apps generate an inflated sense of self for young heterosexual women. Basically: they get sex a few times, are pumped and dumped and then complain there are no good men around. Decent men. Yet there are enough men who can’t find a date because women feel too good for them. So they find it frustrating this mismatch happens and women are fully in control to fix it, yet they won’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 09:44 PM
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Men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 07:28 PM
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Yeah in my experience: I asked out a lot of girls. Sometimes I got dates. The girls who agreed to go on a date with me probably did so because I didn’t care about whether or not they would say yes. They weren’t that special and I asked out anyone with a heartbeat (without letting them know of course). But… you don’t get beyond a first date if you are not attractive. And a lot of girls will classify you as “friend”. Or they will play dumb and ignore your flirting - which is often a very clear sig…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 05:47 PM
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… this wouldn’t be a problem if women weren’t as rejecting and hostile to men. Women really want to leach off men in any way possible. It’s f*cked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 05:40 PM
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<3
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 03:10 PM
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I think red pillers in that way are delusional. Individual lack control over who rejects them. But the people who reject them send a clear message: I don’t respect nor appreciate you. I think it’s definitely possible to have an abundance mindset. The reason is women like orbiters. So they will offer “friendship”. In that sense, useful men can still exert power. They simply refuse to facilitate these women if they don’t respect him. So if they don’t think he is attractive enough, they can get all…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 02:00 PM
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Almost. Men are so touch starved they will take whoever is available. At the same time women think because they bring sex to the table, they are God’s gift to men. It’s pathetic really.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 01:39 PM
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I think men consistently lower their standards. The problem is women in the same league have an inflated sense of self due to dating apps. I am sorry the truth doesn’t match with your bias. I urge you to be better than a victim blamer to men though. Thank you. I am sure your partner would appreciate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 01:38 PM
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Men are not miserable with women on their level. Women on their level think they are above it lol. It’s a pitty, but it shows women really create their own loneliness. It’s pretty funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 01:37 PM
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Hmmm those are a lot of assumptions. I guess women just don’t see what men bring to the table. Which is more a deficiency on women’s part instead of on the male side of this matter. I guess women just devaluate and dehumanize men quite easily, don’t they?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 01:36 PM
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Oh. Well I did have a part that disagreed actually. Just read the second part of that comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 01:34 PM
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I get that. But on the other hand I also believe in being realistic. For example: with this “mindset”-approach, you’ll stick around and wait for a girl to change her mind. Or you’ll blame yourself for the rejection. Which is pretty convenient for women to have you believe. In the realistic approach, you cut someone off after a rejection and you see it for what it is: someone feels too good for you. So you tell this person (although not literally): “I am worthy of love and if you can’t see that, …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 01:32 PM
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Yes. I mean: it’s not a big deal for these people OP mentions (and for women), because these people actually get laid. I can imagine if you are quite touch starved, it becomes more of a thing in your mind. It all depends on how attractive you are. Not on your mindset. I don’t get how people fetishized mindfullness as some virtue. Probably because it fits their agenda and it helps them to shut up people they dislike.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 12:04 PM
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Men come with their genuine experiences and women STILL find a way to make themselves the victim. Amazing!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 11:45 AM
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They really did though.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 08:43 AM
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Basically you only take physical attractiveness. That’s shallow. So if you get lonely, that’s on you. You actively chose to be by being shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 08:30 AM
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Nope nice try blaming the victim though. Very classy! It means women want men to be a mystery, but they want men to not be a problem. They shouldn’t offer to talk about men’s feelings if they actually don’t care. That’s on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 07:08 AM
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I agree on your first part. I disagree on your second part: women make it look like this behavior is the norm. This is not some internet falsehood.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 07:06 AM
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Hmmm no it’s really them being picky. Nice try though🎖 Because frankly, you make it act like being with a slightly less succesful or attractive man is the same as being in a “miserable” relationship. While it really is a question of women feeling too good for these men and at the same time looking for a relationship with men who are out of their league. It’s really funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 06:53 AM
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I think there is a difference in self-repport and action. Everyday women act better than they are. A lot of red pill men act worse online than they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 06:08 AM
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So you agree with my premise men have their ducks in a row equally compared to women? Thank you! One thing I disagree with, is the idea men should lower their standard to be successful dating. Because men already do that. It’s really women who refuse to lower their standards, because dating apps give them the impression they are a better option for a relationship than they reallg are.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 06:06 AM
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Right. But they aren’t. Even though people are “unique”, on aggregate everyone is a basic b*tch. And we just see women are extremely picky and voluntarily engaging in low-expectation sex and then complaining about it. They do have very high standards for relationships and thereby cause their own loneliness. So… I think it’s a litte more nuanced: for sex low emotional expectations in the beginning, for relationships insanely high expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 05:48 AM
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Yup! Women basically date with cheat codes. That’s the part I agree with. I don’t agree with the “most people are undateable”-part. Simply because: people are beautiful creatures who deserve to be happy. It’s just that women don’t tend to see the beauty in men. That tells more about the female gaze than about the quality of men themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 05:45 AM
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Hahaha you’re delusional. I think men have their ducks in row equally compared to women. I just think a lot of women want the best men. They won’t settle for anything less. And you know what, that’s okay! But then women waive away their right to complain about being lonely: they actively chose to not work on it. I also think women often choose more attractive, abusive men. That’s also okay. But then women don’t really deserve empathy in my eyes. Sorry hon, you did this to yourself…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 05:41 AM
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That's completely true. Maybe I can just clarify one thing: "Appearances are absolutely necessary, but not sufficient". I think this always was the case where people could choose their partners. Only sometimes, you had arranged marriages and marriages between nobility. Then the newly-weds might not have had the most influence on that decision. So dating apps might only made worse what already was there.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 07:54 PM
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Agree. I think most women would prefer sharing a high quality guy. You know that is a-okay, but you then waive away your rights to complain about loneliness. Since you know: you chose for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 07:46 PM
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I want women to be honest about their intentions. As long as they go for hook ups and then complain about it, they are not honest. I think they should do it, if it prevents them hurting men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 06:02 PM
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There are enough women who willingly walk into a hook up. Again: if you do so, you waive away your right to complain.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 05:45 PM
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I'm blown away at this logic. The simplest messages are often true. Men just know how it is for other men. There are so many things we are aware or simply not aware off, and the same is the truth for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 04:55 PM
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Again: you can leave the hook ups if that's so frequent, or you can stop complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 04:54 PM
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Nah. I think race-based privilege is a thing. I think white women got nothing to complain. They just have a victim-complex. Do you have a victim complex?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 03:21 PM
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I don’t really think it makes it understandable.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 03:20 PM
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hmm. Alright, seems fair. I would say it counts for non-disabled women. But I'll say you are probably right for actually disabled women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 01:08 PM
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You seem to take their words without reading between the lines. You may have missed some things, a man would have noticed. That kind of things just happen, gender may play a role here. I will try to explain what I see as a man from these men. The socially excluded men - on the surface level - seem to be picky with looks. You have to take a few things into account here: we are online, where we get to think about our answers for a long time. On top of that, we still seem to organise in groups with…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 12:11 PM
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Again: I believe these socially excluded men would give a hard yes to these socially excluded women. I don't think the answer would be yes from women. Men are actually victims of modern dating, in terms of not getting a date in general. Women often choose who they want to date. So yes: I think the ball is in the court for women to fix it. Or: to not complain about the dates they are getting. Good luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 11:55 AM
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Women's advice could work if a man and a woman are already in a relationship. Women give advice ... that would work if women are already attracted to men. The "be nice", "be respectful", "dress nice" parts, only work if women are already attracted to men. Male advice works the best if a man has to start from scratch. And I would say even when a relationship already started. I agree: male advice is simply the best, because it is from the POV of a guy. Female advice can help in tricky situations i…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 10:10 AM
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I think your intention is not bad. Relationship advice works, because you know the other woman is interested in these men. But... I don't think women can help men in attracting women. And women should not pretend they do know the answer to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 10:08 AM
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"stops handing them out participation trophies for simply existing". It's a little bit more complex than that. Can you admit men sometimes are disadvantaged and receive disproportional reactions from women to the system (= an aspect of misandry)?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 10:06 AM
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It's strange. I do have confidence. If people want to get me down, they tell me I am arrogant. For example: a girl tried to justify treating me badly. I calmly told her she was wrong and I would not put up with it. I asked her to leave. She then told me I was "arrogant". In that case, self-confidence is not valued, since she wants me to comply with her world view. On the other side, I am also realistic. I see women sometimes are just not interested in me (I am fat, so I know some pretty women wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 10:03 AM
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No. Good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 09:44 AM
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Cool. Then I am sure you agree with men on this. See: men actually want the world to work like women claim it does: we all find a happy relationship and no one is lonely. Women on the other hand claim they want relationship material when in reality they want hook up material. I am glad you learned that lesson.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 08:59 AM
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If you don’t value hook ups, you just don’t engage in them ;) if that’s too hard, maybe you can acknowledge men have a point here?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 08:53 AM
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Or… most of these socially excluded women feel too good for men who are equally isolated.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 08:51 AM
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But then it’s very simple! You don’t have these casual moments ;) they mean nothing, right? Oh they do? Then maybe women might want to be more honest about it…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 08:49 AM
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Exactly! No offense, but I wish all the women good luck with their dating. If you find what you’re looking for, that’s great. If you don’t, you need to work on yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 04:55 PM
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Thank you. It was ... yeah I am still not over all of that haha. But you know, I am trusting groups again, since I always have the "einzelgänger"-status due to coming in late, and that gives me a better position. It also allows me to walk out of the backdoor when the kitchen is going up in flames. But yes, I think they are different. Still, like my grandma said "Times are changing". Edit: I realise what you wrote must also not have been the thing you want to share online. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 02:20 PM
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"I think most women are just nervous because there has definitely been an uptick in that behavior during recent years. You’re 100% right though that that doesn’t mean women should be aggressive or rude toward men in general. The most I would understand is being cautious." I am glad we can agree on that. I actually don't like this development as well. It fits men in a certain box of masculinity, and I don't think we all should or could fit into it. For example: one of my classmates is a guy who i…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 01:56 PM
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I agree with you. My point is just: women underestimate their power to let men internalize that hate as well. And the implications hurt us all, e.g. a lot of Andrew Tate fellows. I feel a lot of women are still “buffering” in their understanding of men and are stuck in the 80s. They believe men on average are worse than they really are.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 08:13 AM
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That's the thing: in my experience, heterosexual women do hate men to a certain extent. Sure they like some things, but there is always this line of resent and hatred which I think are not justified. For example: a girl I know wanted to be my friend. But she bullied me and said the most hateful things about men in general. She liked I could be helpful to her. But she was somehow resentful this came from a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 10:07 PM
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I have been friends with lesbians some times in my life. I am not sure why, but I always felt lesbians in a heterosexual group felt the need to be included. As in: hating men would be some performative act in which they did gruesome stuff to me. To summarize my experience: “Like women claim men follow their penis, lesbian women have such a state of mind as well”.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 09:42 PM
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Well since heterosexual women have a tendency to both be attracted to men and hate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 09:39 PM
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Hahaha I value my life, thank you very much.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 09:38 PM
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Oh yeah, in most countries women can’t “rape” because the definition is focused on men. Yeah that will help statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 09:32 PM
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That’s an interesting point you make. So if these statistics are measured like this, why would they not be true. (Btw: I am in a data driven sub field of geography. I know how people can lie with data. But I have to admit I am just a starting professional - I don’t have that much experience yet).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 08:38 PM
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Well… your honest is appreciated
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 07:37 PM
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I wasn’t exactly hinting at sex. Just common human decency. But I think your sentiment is alright.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 07:37 PM
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Yeah, but this is more of a chicken-egg story right? It's not competely a male thing only. That's what you suggested. I feel like you are just trolling this thread right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 07:09 PM
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You are insufferable: the points pretty much confirm four years of university education on statistics. Trust me: just read them. You are not objective right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 05:14 PM
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I think you are generalizing right now, about men. You are a woman right? Anyhow... no I really think we should give men more credit than this. Just because the message isn't to your liking, you can't just deny the violence women do to men. Again: I am not getting defensive. Unless you count sharing a story about sexual intimidation to me, as a form of defence. But then you would be victim blaming lol. I would say it is incredibly common for women not to empathize with men. To such a degree ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 05:13 PM
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I know, I just know critical thinking is new to you, so I am giving you some educational material.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 05:10 PM
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Oh God now I have to look back all your comments? Please! You spew bull about men and try to justify it with your statistics. I mean: your statistics are fine, but you are selectively using them and making conclusions out of proportion. I told you already: I proved you wrong. Here's your reading material: https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbesagencycouncil/2020/10/28/weaponizing-data-versus-using-it-as-a-tool-to-humanize-consumers/?sh=2474c44b2f04.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 05:01 PM
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Well... again: that's sad, but very off-topic. Again: This isn't common male behavior. Your comment "Do they actually hate men or do you just think that because they have explained common male behavior that they don't like and you're defensive?" is really not adequate to the post I made. Not by a long shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 04:59 PM
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Well I mean: I would be fine with indifference. That's not misandry. It's like: if you treat me normally and let me be then we can be fine. But it happens sometimes lesbian women just go wild against men, like they are on a personal vendetta. I've seen it so many times in my life. My guess is: by fully emerging themselves in an all-female world, they need a 'threat'. So they exaggerate men. Eating a sandwhich: probably a murderer who just killed a cow himself. And also talk about toxic masculini…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 04:58 PM
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Right? It's just a thing that people keep under their skin for a while. Then after some point you start to notice it waaaaaay more. It's like they are possessed or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 04:56 PM
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Short but clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 04:55 PM
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Well... no I was actually quite intrigued by your hate for men. And I see it from a lot of women in the comment sections. But you misquoting me, weaponizing statistics, misinterpreting me, and responding to every post I make, sure shows you are taking this personal lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 04:46 PM
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I want to add to that: I have experienced women attacking me throughout my life. And apparently that's perfectly normal to do because you generally did not like their jokes. Stupid of us to think men were allowed to breath! *Not even sexists jokes. I treated them like I treat everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 04:44 PM
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Your comment is like giving a powerpoint on rare birds, and then suddenly one flies on your shoulder. Amazing! I don't think this "common" male behavior is that common at all. So I am not defensive about something I should, according to you, feel guilty about. But are you suggesting my female manager of 25 sexually intimidating a boy of 15 is good behavior? Oh my.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 04:42 PM
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Yes, but fortunately I am in the group of people that will most likely be able to avoid living on their own without a partner in the view. I believe a lot of people are.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 04:39 PM
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Let's just say: I don't support that logic. But I can see the logic behind it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 04:36 PM
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I recognize your position with racism. Some family connections with anti-muslim and some of my primary school class-mates did not turn out fine ... The drama aspect is very interesting because I noticed that as well. They got into a fight with everyone around them and even seemed to lend some status from that. Do you think these women truely hate men, or are just looking for a next avenue for negative attention?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 01:45 PM
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Amen! I have always been raised to treat other people respectfully. And to just have people who justify being an ass ... I just cannot get that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 01:42 PM
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Okay so help me understand: last time I was friends with them, I was forced to jump into discussions all day. I tried correcting them: "hey! that's nice of you to say. Do I look like a mentally challenged rapist to you?" (I realise this is basically an open goal for puns and jokes here, but go ahead). That's just exhausting to me - and I don't feel anymore like I should be responsible for that part of their upbringing. Like I should help them sensitize.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 01:36 PM
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That's the thing: data on this subject is not really collected. Even in research there is a boundary of what you can research and what not. Especially in research btw, because it is done with tax payer's money. I will engage in your questions, since they are grounded. How many women actually claim to hate men? In my environment, most of them at least a period in their life. I have no clue how large the part of the female population in the Western world that hates women actually is. And as vague …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 01:33 PM
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Operapeach, just because you refuse to accept the answer doesn’t mean I haven’t answered you, silly! I think it would be in your interest online to shut up. Because basically, you are picking a fight in every post I come across. It’s not healthy madam. And the worst part is: I agree with most of your opponents. But I guess trolls be trolling, don’t you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 11:11 PM
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I can definitely agree in this. A girl I was interested in, several actually, were more into guys in their late 20s, 30s and even 40s than in someone their own age (me).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 11:10 PM
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I think we’ll do that once women respect our experiences, thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 11:05 PM
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Hey hey nog een Nederlander! Camping vibes. Anyhow, I agree. Plus, no offense, I wouldn’t like a woman who is severly underweight on purpose. I like to eat, and I can barely handle my parents closing down on my weight as it is. Imagine you even have to fight your girlfriend on that issue…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 11:01 PM
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Eeeeeeh I would not say that. While women SAY they are okay with that, they have a tendency of making just enough jokes about it to be taken seriously. I have at least never had a fit girl walk up to me for a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 10:56 PM
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You should try the method of peaceful communication. It would suit you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 10:53 PM
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… you can’t generalize men here. I for one am a fat guy myself. Most women I date are fat. I often notice these girls care less about their physical health and more about their mental health. So I often try to find situations in which we can both improve our mental health and eventually physical health. For example: my ex-girlfriend was so fat she could not walk the stairs (in comparison: I can still run a few miles). We both looked the same type of fat, except I am more healthy than she is in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 10:48 PM
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Still, most higher educated women don't want to "down-grade" in terms of dating. Which means they don't want someone who has a lower education level than them. And there are relatively more highly educated women than men. So I think you overestimate the succes these men really have with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 09:49 PM
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And people are entitled to share their opinions on people who choose to shame men. It’s a circle in the end haha! “Such is the nature of the internet”, well said. The thing is, there is a difference in what men and women find acceptable reasons to cut someone off. I think this is because women disproportionately benefit from female-male friendships. In this instance, the guy had to accept a friend doing something he could not agree with. So he had to correct her or even cut her off. You know, as…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 07:59 AM
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I think you did what you needed to do. She is not entitled to your friendship or your approval or even acceptance.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 07:41 AM
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*because of women being spoiled
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 07:38 AM
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To some degree I understand you want someone of the same sex for certain services. For example: I always ask for a male therapist, and in some instances I want a male doctor.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 11:44 PM
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Your experience of the day care must hurt. I have a little sister. And to be honest: I see all her friends as brothers and sisters of my own. They have been showing up for years. When I worked somewhere with all these highly educated bozo’s, they shared the same sentiment: “if you are a man working at the day care, you must be a pedophile”. When I reminded them I have a little sister of my own, and I have to keep an eye on her and her friends when my parents are gone, the reaction was: “you are …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 11:41 PM
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So it was like "low-key, men are ..."?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 11:07 PM
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That is indeed disturbing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 11:04 PM
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hahaha if only. No really: I was just looking at the group like "wow dude, what the h- ... nobody is responding to this?". And that was really shocking to me. People think like: "oh yeah you're a man, how can a tiny girl hurt you?". And I was just perplexed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 11:02 PM
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Yes misandry. And the fact you crack down on me for saying it proves enough. Yeah you had proof. Still: research is not absolute and is mistake-prone. I prefer lived experience above biased research. The men could also not want to date the woman, since they know what women do with men they deem inferior. Namely: dump them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 08:22 PM
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Lol because I know scientific studies are still made by human beings with faulty methods and political interests to defend. For example: the War on Tourism is a scientific discussion during the pandemic between proponents of the positivistic method and the status quo and critical scholars with qualitative methods. Both accuse each other of faulty scholarship and “unreal knowledge”. My point is: you can’t accuse me of having no valuable knowledge. Just because you found a scientist to justify you…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 06:53 PM
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I see you linked it. I hope you saw my reaction as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 05:08 PM
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sigh These examples do mean a thing. Again: you can scream all you want about "Men", but in reality you do not even know what men you are talking about. That's why you refuse to make it more specific. I am looking at your personality because you have a personal vendetta against men in several posts. You clearly have some issue in your personal life with men, otherwise you wouldn't have cracked down on them in your digital life. It's okay, you don't need to tell me what it is. But come on now, be…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 04:59 PM
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You're right. Personal experiences and examples are not a representation of the whole population. But since you make claims about men in general, showing you there are men who act different than the "whole population" you claim to know, shows your image is wrong. I don't prove anything about the whole population, I simply disprove your view of men. I think a known example of this way of proving is that of black Swans. The idea is you can say "all swans are white", but if you encounter a black sw…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 04:43 PM
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Hmm no this is not an attempt to crack down on someone who isn’t “naive and impressionable”. In fact, you come across as a little bit gullible and not well informed. It seems you WANT to believe men are bad so much, you discard every example I give you proving the contrary. You suffer from a real strong confirmation bias, and defend it with your life. I am not quite sure where you got it from. I believe it is probably a coping mechanism since someone hurt you at some moment. I am sorry it happen…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 04:29 PM
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It will help, but my point is: technology has always been feared and it has always been disproportional. For example: I believe in ancient Greece at some point they feared paper documentation. They believed it would make our minds lazy. I still know a lot of people who can't even read or write a book. I have done both and I do it frequently. Writing helps to clear the mind and form an opinion. It is also the basis of us talking like we do right now. A more recent example is found back in America…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 11:39 AM
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You think we get to an AI-dominated future? All technology was once feared, but humans find a way to human their way through technology.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 11:18 AM
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It says "No Pill", yet you have a very strong sense of hatred for men, I can read. I'll respond to all your points in seperate paragraphs and I'll add some more. Men LOVE intelligent women. At least: I do. One of my criteria for a woman is then also: she needs to have a degree - it may be trade school and it may be university, but she needs the papers. The reason for this is very personal: my parents never had their papers and had to work their way up. I am the first child to go to university, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 10:19 AM
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Acant, we have a lot to agree and disagree on. I'll just dive into it with all my untechsavyness. I am sorry for your reading material. You said: Look at what you just typed - even though the first thing you said was “these guys aren’t jerks,” you turn around with “the people giving advice are the jerks because they think they’re so great because they have someone.” Response: no, just look carefully at what I said. "They are annoying in the eyes of the (succesful) people who give the advice." Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 01:15 AM
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Thank you. I’d like to believe too there is some hope for people like me. I recently even hired a food consultant: it was just too much to bare any longer. Here’s the kicker: If I wasn’t a relatively hard-working student, I couldn’t pay it. I just think inequality is a thing in dating and it’s good we keep seeing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 11:31 PM
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"Do you think women have greater in group bias". Yes, for sure! I think that was fine during the first two waves of feminism. Now it is creating the same bias, but then against men. You see it indeed a lot on social media, but I also tend to think a lot of these women are not actually practicing what they preach. But not only women support men in this absurd behavior. Also men. There have been so many literature studies, and apparently women die less and less violenty in movies than men. I was r…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 11:06 PM
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Sure, I'll play along. This sounds like something that could be true. So imagine you are right: so what? It happened enough to me while interacting with young heterosexual women. Since they had enough men who wanted to have sex with them (note: not necessarily have a relationship with them), they tended to be arrogant and mean-spirited to men who actually asked them on a date. For example: a girl *big space here* friend of mine rejected men on Tinder like it was just some game. "Oh my God he is …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 10:53 PM
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Yeah trust me: as a fat guy growing up, I kind of know looks are not optional for romantic attraction. They are also not optional if you want to be treated like a person: fat people are apparently worthless if I have to go off my own experience. The thing is, with women, they all flock to the same type of guys and have like really high bars for attractiveness. So most of the times in modern times, ugly guys get nothing, and a lot of women share a few guys. It's hard, but it is what it is I suppo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 10:33 PM
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Thank you. I don’t always hear these kind words, and it is good to hear them sometimes. Luckily my mother was always out to protect me: people tried to send me to a school for the mentally challenged, and they sent a school doctor my way several times. Turned out I was incredibly good at learning, and I soon found out I could run incredibly fast despite my weight. Can you imagine people hating on chubby children so hard, they almost ruin their lives? I think these scars make people beautiful. An…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 09:31 PM
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I am glad you respond this way. This is also why I give examples of me and people in my environment: to make it a little bit more human. I also notice a lot of people in this sub would love to study economics or biology, considering they adapt those ideas to the idea of dating (e.g. supply and demand and what I think is evolutionary biology). I think the same trend is seen with men: we don't want to get used by women as well, but we also want to just be able to start a relationship and a family …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 07:52 PM
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Nope, men don’t hate fat women. I at least don’t. Most of the times I try to date them as well. I kind of know my league lol. But even then: fat women feel too good for fat men. The fat acceptance movement has not yet reached men and that’s sad. Because I am seen as lazy, immoral and just an easy target just because of my weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 05:34 PM
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I doubt the bar is actually that low. In my male perspective, most women accept me as a friend (they even try the "best friend" trope with me a lot), but not as a partner. That was different when I weighed like 30kg less.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 04:22 PM
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This feels like jumping from a roof top to a diving board and hitting your nuts in the progress: the intention was well-meant, poorly executed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 04:20 PM
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In my male (22 yo) experience, I think the thing is: most of the times men try to get to know a woman as a person, she isn't interested in a relationship or in sex. In the process women claim they now like the friendship so much they don't want to ruin that. Often that is my chime to destroy the friendship á la minute. So I at least try to avoid that, until I find out a woman is actually interested in me romantically. Simply because I am not interested in a friendship with most women (Lesbian wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 04:18 PM
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Well, let me rephrase that: most men that are having sex with a woman before being in a relationship, would be open to be in a relationship with a woman. In addition to that, some men don't want to have sex before being in a relationship. Some men do want sex before being in a relationship or without being in a relationship. I don't think men are having sex just for having sex most of the times. I can imagine it also comes with romantic feelings and a true desire to get to know a woman. A person…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 04:02 PM
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That's not what I said. Some do, some don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 03:47 PM
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Ma'am, I can agree to that. But as I told you: it doesn't happen a lot and I asked you not to be too negative about men. I am not sure why you are continuing this discussion. Because as I said: this is not a competition. Please go off and don't reply. Bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 03:46 PM
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I am too tired to continue AGAIN. You know you’re not right. My previous message showed that. Now you try to put words in MY mouth to “win” this. You’re not here for a conversation, you are trying to “win” something here because you have negative experiences with men. I am so sorry you feel the need to make everything a competition. Thank you and goodbye. Edit: I used your exact words from your original comment. If you don’t stand behind your words, don’t use them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 03:36 PM
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I think any man blindly asking for a "friend" wants sexual benefits from the relationship. Men absolutely can have platonic friendships with women. Those friendships usually happen organically though, not because someone cast a wide net on the www. No you don't. You twisting what you said in the beginning is the real question mark here. You said: ANY man. And later you said: not all men. Or more precisely: "If a man meets a woman online because they're into the same hobbies yeah, I absolutely be…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 03:20 PM
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Oh no I for one agree with OP and I actively ask out women. I get rejected a lot, but I also ask out a lot of women. And I still believe the system is rigged.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 03:15 PM
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So thank you for agreeing with me. See, that is a solid middle-ground we can agree on. So why do you spread this message so absolutely, if it is full of nuance?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 03:08 PM
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Because I know a lot of these women. And things they count as 'disrespectful' is actually their own fault most of the times. For example: "Oh God he ghosted me the asshole!". But then, when you ask further, you found out she suggested to have sex the same week his grandma died. Gosh I wonder why he ghosted that proposal! /s So yeah, I actually encounter a lot of women in real life AND online. Most of the times when you ask further, you find out it's at least partially a women's fault men react i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 02:51 PM
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You know, I was not agreeing with you. You claim men cannot be friends with women online. I tell you that they can. So no... I am not agreeing with you. Stop twisting my words to fit your message. No, not most men going online claiming they want a friend, want a friendship to include sex. Stop making up numbers to fit your narrative. Thank you <3
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 02:48 PM
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Most men treat women well. That's all I want to say on the matter. Most men are open to a relationship while having sex with a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 02:30 PM
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If we can't define women like a hive-mind, don't define men as a hive mind... It's also not logical: sometimes, you do find a woman you want to be friends with. People just have these moments.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 02:27 PM
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Amazing, you did not respond to any word I just said and answered with something completely unrelated. Marvelous! /s It really shows you think I am right and you are looking for new avenues to "win" an argument, rather than trying to understand my perspective. That's really sad and it shows you don't argue in good faith. Look... femicide is an issue. I won't deny that. Still, it is not related to this argument at all. But men are not solely getting into relationships with women they hate. Women …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 01:55 PM
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I feel like there is something seriously wrong with the way you think. So let me respond to all paragraphs: "if she was so clear she didn’t like you and treated you badly, why did you continue to date her? that reflects poorly on you also" Response: abusive partners don't start with this in the beginning. They slowly "win" you over and then start doing this. They also convince you it is your fault. To put it simply, one day it just "starts" with an incident and slowly becomes a structural proble…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 01:42 PM
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Wow, strong argument /s ;P Look, I gave you a very personal example. You could at least respond to that. My example showed you a girl wanted me as a run boy and kept comparing me to her ex-boyfriend. I did not feel threatened by her intelligence. In fact: it was amazing to have an intelligent girlfriend. I kept telling people about my ex with her own business. My parents were glad for me, as I had a girlfriend who shared the same level of ambition I did. I was, at that moment, looking into start…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 12:55 PM
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hahaha come on now. No, men don't feel threatened and emasculated by equals. We feel that way about women who treat us like they are better than us and we are LUCKY to have them consider giving us a glance. You don't really notice how women treat men, since you are a woman yourself. Most men can confirm women are pretty arrogant in the respect of dating. Personal example. I once had an abusive ex. She kept telling me how intelligent her ex-boyfriend was. I was not sure why. She kept telling me: …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 12:25 PM
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I think you are the one ignoring reality right now. You don’t even bring up a counter-argument, which shows you probably agree. Let’s agree one thing right here right now: if you agree with me, you can just stop now and I’ll get the message.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 11:27 AM
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That’s simply not true. Maybe the baseline of fear is. Men are perceived by women to be more ugly and “scary”. That is not the same as respect. In fact: it really proves my previous point. But in your defence: I have edited the last answer to add the last two paragraphs. Edit: one thing to add: men have known this and have had to improve themselves constantly to not be perceived as “scary and ugly and repulsive”. Women are always seen as more kind and open and don’t have to do that same effort. …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 11:07 AM
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Men give women plenty of respect. If women want more respect, they should earn it. They haven’t so far. You know: just like men always had to do. I think the case is more like this: women are wanted by a lot of men. And they feel like these men aren’t valuable enough. Women often have the idea they can do better than they actually can. So they don’t treat men with respect, because surely, men are disposable and so they don’t want to go through the hussle of taking the effort to show men respect.…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 11:01 AM
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I simply don't understand this answer. I guess men give about the amount of respect they feel women want. Most of the times, give a woman too much respect, they think you are desperate and will leave you themselves. Again: men are not monsters. I think they like women enough to have sex with them, most of the times they also want a relationship. Most of the times, women think these men are not 'valuable' enough to start a relationship with. It's really more of a woman-problem than something men …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 10:15 AM
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I can't say that I feel disrespected as a woman in general, but I'm definitely valued more on my appearance than my competence Well... I feel like appearances is what draw men to you. They would stay with you because of your competences. Most men don't get women to approach them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 10:09 AM
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Bull. A lot of men want a relationship with an equal. The problem is: women feel too good for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 10:06 AM
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Yeah that's the thing: too little attention can also suck. I know a girl, she is like the fattest girl I know, and she has like five sex buddies. She gets told she is a like a girl "with a size more" (In the Netherlands, that's a cute way of calling someone fat - as in: you are my chubby special person). If I am fat, I just hear it from family, friends, internet. And I get told no one would date a whale. You see the inequality in that?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 10:03 AM
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Bull. Women act like men don't feel anything when sex is involved. That's simply not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 10:00 AM
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Nope. I would say an equal amount of respect, women are wanted waaaaaay more.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 09:58 AM
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But in this instance as I pointed out, the typical response is “ it’s not your looks that’s hurting you” not “looks don’t matter” it’s convoluting the two. It’s a petty throw away response often given online to dudes who are again displaying jerk behavior That's the thing: these men aren't displaying jerk behavior. They are annoying in the eyes of the (succesful) people who give the advice. These people love to think they landed their SO because they are absolutely amazing like no other person e…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 09:39 AM
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I know. I count on that. It’s sad people ever saw a five year old fat kid and thought: “let’s beat him to the ground”. It’s even more sad people think the same about a 22 year old fat student. I am still waiting for them to grow as people. While dating and friendship are a sh*t show, people do - once in a while - acknowledge I am intelligent enough to write them cool articles or manage processes for them. So: that’s a bit of light in the dark. Like I always said: “They won’t invite me to a party…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 08:39 AM
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But sometimes, it is your looks stopping you from getting a date. So not only would the statement "looks don't matter" be just plainly false. Furthermore, it is often said people need to "work on themselves" to become more interesting or even become a 'good person'. That's what I read so far on this forum. Anyhow, like I was saying: the statement is a silent attack on the person that asks the question. It is planting some insecurity in their heads and you actually say they are sh*t.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 06:07 PM
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It's so strange: it's better to be abusive as a man than to be respective. It's sad, but I won't lower to that standard. It's like: I feel like women rather be bullied and abused by a man than date someone that is not attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 02:58 PM
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You're right, he is a misandrist
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 12:34 PM
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Eh sometimes men do, sometimes men don't. They definetly don't want to be friends with women they like romantically or sexually. It's basically punishment / telling them they are not good enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 12:33 PM
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hmmm well... I don't like your last sentence. A lot of guys KNOW they are not as attractive as most girls they are attracted to. In my case, I even tried dating men (yes, I am not gay - I found out at an unlucky moment) and I severly lowered my standards. I also know a lot of guys who do the same. It's just bad that people use this phrase of "looks don't matter" to us to rationalize men have ''bad personalities'. Because the idea is: if looks don't matter, and you cannot get into a relationship,…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 12:29 PM
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Women are being treated too nicely. It’s funny because I experienced something similar. I had an ex-girlfriend who always expected me to be nice. She cheated on me. Without an outburst, without any kicks to her back, I just told her we were over and we should see other people. Her anger was just amazing to see. It almost seemed like she was possessed by a demon. I got all the insults in the book and I was the bad guy - according to her. Because let’s be honest, and I quote, I “went on a holiday …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 11:56 AM
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I think because it is generally asked by women who really find themselves the best thing since sliced bread or bro's who are just a little bit into evolutionary biology without having a biology degree. The question is not neutral like "what is the temperature today?". The question is actively used to devaluate a person and tell them they cannot critically evaluate another person's behavior. For example: a man can notice women expect men to be almost captain America-like, while most men cannot co…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 11:39 AM
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“Train a six pack and women will be very kind to you”, nobody told me when you don’t have it, they will also turn nasty at you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 09:01 PM
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It’s not that men refuse. It’s just that women’s standards are unreasonable. Most men want to help out in the house. They just have to have a six pack, six figures in the bank, be a baddass etc. Men can’t just be normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 08:16 PM
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You commodify men here. Men aren’t becoming “worse”. Women are just too picky. That’s onay, but then they withdraw the right to complain on being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 08:14 PM
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Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 11:44 AM
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No I think it needs clarification. They are basically using you until they find someone better and use your insecurities against you to make themselves feel better. Only difference is it takes a while for them to reject you. The girls who do it directly, claim they don’t reject you because of that preference but they certainly do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 11:34 AM
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With “manipulative” I mean remaining flirty while a second guy is in the image, or using a man as a satellite to orbit her (happens more often than you’d like to admit) or talking trash behind his back (“I am doing charity work by talking to this guy. If the other one doesn’t respond Imma go on date with him”), or using it as a way to make him more accommodating (“well you aren’t that smart but at least you have nice hair” -actual comment of my ex).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 11:28 AM
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… there are men who find sex and relationships during the first two images of the egg carton. Just these men aren’t in this sub. I am sorry but this specific post just isn’t that good.
/r/AntiFeminists22/01/23 11:25 AM
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Nice try. I never heard men complain about height. Women are also not better in communicating their “preferences”. In fact, they are more manipulative about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 11:22 AM
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Look I don’t say you are a bad person. I just say: if you suddenly lose attraction as you know they are bi, you are biphobic. Just Google it, read on it and come back. And this can be due to hidden, negative assumptions you have on bi-people: * they are less masculine *they are more likely to cheat *they are more likely to have std’s No you didn’t say that, but these are pretty common. I would just ask you to check if the possibility exists you have these assumptions in your head. Yes this is fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 05:46 PM
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So you admit it? Even if I would make an argument, you would dismiss it anyway? I know I said critical reflection but damn … you’re a fast learner!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 06:17 AM
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Ah I see. Look just because you are on a debate sub doesn’t mean you should act like a jackass. My point still stands: women who won’t date bisexual men don’t have a preference, they are biphobic. The fact you rather focus on my language instead of this point really tells me everything there is to know about you. Ask yourself critically: why do I have a problem with a potential boyfriend being bisexual?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 06:10 AM
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One word is really enough sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 06:03 AM
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*biphobic
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 05:59 AM
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I don’t know: people often give advice from their own experience. If you don’t want it - just ignore it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 10:26 PM
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Look sometimes it’s just not working. There is nothing wrong with the guys here. Or actually; nothing from the start of their lives. Most probably they just have dumb luck and no method of coping. And to be fair: if most if your friends are getting into relationships and you are not, that’s something you get stressed about. Why wouldn’t you be? These men can still actively contribute to society and are still valuable members.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 11:44 PM
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Well these women don’t tend to flock together on some kind of convention. Actually, that would be a great idea. Can we arrange that? No but without joking, I think I am looking for physical cues. So I do really look on individual scale: Is she comfortable with me approaching her? If not, I don’t approach. If yes, I just shoot my shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 05:20 PM
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Ok I notice from your messages you are just out to “expose” men. Look … we all want to date the most handsome, intelligent and funny person in the room. We can agree on that. I am just saying, men are not actually given a lot of choice compared to most women. So we just kind of accept we rather are with an ugly girl than alone. The reason for this is that most guys know love can grow. It’s also nice to have a partner to take to your parents. As men are often forced to lower their standards in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 05:18 PM
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Yeah it kinda happened to me … I could imagine people like these words as they make them feel appreciated. But I guess it doesn’t happen and I was just played like a fool xD
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 05:09 PM
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Well that’s the first point. The second point may be a bit high. The third point as well actually. Ok so I could just go for only the first point then? It broadens my search that’s for sure …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 05:08 PM
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Better. I invest less time in finding people. It saves disappointment I had throughout high school and most of my uni years. I even posted something about my loneliness, asking people if they felt the same and wanted to form a group. I always liked city trips, so I asked them to join me. The only person that replied was some wannabe popular girl who joined a fraternity later on and then ditched me. No wait actually two more guys. They had better things to do and ditched me as well - they also ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 05:01 PM
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Ok so I have this girl right. All these men throw them at her feet. She only wants FWB with these guys and just has sex almost every day. Still she complains when these guys leave the FWB for a relationship. Almost as if they broke up with her. How should I interpret that?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 04:47 PM
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The minimum exists. But that minimum is extremely low compared to what I heard from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 04:28 PM
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Well… it still depends on whether women will sy yes or not. I still have to check for cue’s. Could it be the demands of men are actually this low? Could you accept that reality?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 04:28 PM
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I actually don't want the data on these guys. I don't want to compare myself to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 04:02 PM
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If you have an active work life, it may be better for your mental health. A lot of people here are focused on attaining friends and relationships. I think to let go would actually solve a lot of problems. I mean: you are still going to encounter people. You just choose who you encounter. So a little context: I joined a lot of committees in university. For four years I made maps for certain activities, I was chairman several times and I organised seminars with discussion pannels. While the people…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 03:43 PM
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You go to social events because you hope to have fun, make friends, maybe find a relationship. A lot of the people here don’t find that. Regular people do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 03:36 PM
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Again, a lot of men still participate in these kinds of events. They just don’t find what they need from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 03:05 PM
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But don’t men like spend time with you at least? Or give you attention?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 03:05 PM
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To be fair, I have noticed how people will treat you if you’re ugly. I can believe that one. One if the things that made my school have a witch hunt on five year old me, was I was a chubby kid. If my mum hadn’t been so confident in me, I wouldn’t be in university right now. People even hate chubby kids…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 03:04 PM
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Ehh that’s not true. Men kind of know what league they are in. At this point my demands are: Please don’t be abusive. Please don’t have a serious issue in your face Having any qualification in higher education (e.g. ranging from tradeschool to university). I really don’t think those demands are that high.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 03:02 PM
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I don’t know. Putting in the effort as a man is not seen as less desperate. I can’t imagine men having a problem with women who are not super models. In my experience it would just be fun to have a woman in my life who doesn’t threaten to cheat if I pursue my school.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 02:57 PM
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Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 02:55 PM
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I kind of like the sub Forever Alone though. Most people are very understanding there. Here I feel like I joined my old debate club again.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 02:53 PM
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Just curious: don’t women get love or initimacy from hook ups? I can imagine men also like to say “I love you”, gives these playful little kisses and just running your fingers through someone’s hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 02:52 PM
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Ok Timmy maybe we gotta find you another hobby
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 02:49 PM
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Why do you have to be this harsh? I get it, men shouldn’t feel entitled. But there are a lot of men who participated in social activities and are still single. Also, after a certain age, it’s actually hard to invite people to social stuff. They have their bagage and you will have to go on your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 02:44 PM
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Just go to therapy people. Life is no fun - it is what it is. If people can have sex that’s so great. I just think if I am watching a movie with one of my few great friends, and while the killer sneaks in, I hear her mumble “Oh yeah that will get him hard”, it’s not that much to ask her to turn her phone off. Frankly I have been on these subs for a while and it got me thinking: why the hell would I want a relationship anyway? I am young, I have more money and the least costs and responsibilities…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 10:33 PM
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Drop the gun.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 06:26 PM
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haha yeah. I mean... I can get the anger towards women and stuff. Ok. But don't seek for patterns where there are none.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 02:54 PM
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You can’t just write an opinion/overview/piece of text and call it an analysis…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 09:54 AM
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You realise you shoot yourself in the foot right?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 12:07 AM
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I always paid for dates with women. I guess men can take a stance on this one as well. I had a lot of women who took advantage of this… but these weren’t actually the women I would like to have anything to do with. So it could also serve as a filter mechanism. An example: I once befriended the girlfriend of my bestfriend. It had benefits of doing so: my friend was a sensitive guy and I wanted to protect him from her emotional fallouts. So for me the task was to help her get through it. She had a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 11:49 PM
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I think this is a great idea actually. Apart from it being free, it’s also a great test of how you’ll enjoy each other. I feel like if you can’t enjoy each other in public spaces, you might not enjoy each other in the private spaces. Like: most people I like being around, I would still be around if we met in a mudhole during a nuclear winter. We would probably find another game, but we still be having the same banter.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 11:39 PM
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I think one thing is that sweet behavior tends to help. For example: I did have a girlfriend once. And when we had sex, her hand on my little man wasn’t necessarily what had me aroused. It was her scent, her hand caressing me and her whispering sweet words to me. Every touch felt electric and magical. She wasn’t the most attractive woman, but she was willing to be so sweet to me. Well at least: in the bedroom she was sweet, outside of it less so.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 11:42 AM
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Well I realised there wasn’t a lot to choose for me! So either my choice is a) die alone b) settle for less attractive women… but I am willing to make that choice. I can imagine you are not willing to do that. I always thought if I participated socially, went to college, worked and read enough on other subjects, I could one day find someone with similar interests. Now I kind of resent my parents pushing me to university. I noticed if I had more free time and less stress, I still wouldn’t be able…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 11:35 AM
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I mean: it is probably in the middle. I knew an ugly girl for a few years. She was one of the few women in my life to actually be decent: She would just split. I was a student without a stable job. The other girls had the same situation btw. Still, “men pay”. She had the same tight homework/work regime I did. I always said I value a girl who values education. She was very empathic and non-judgmental. We kind of had an agreement sometimes we just needed to listen to each other. Despite we couldn’…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 09:52 AM
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I have tried so much to make myself more attractive. No it really isn’t my fault. In fact: if women weren’t fucking around with a small amount of men, I would have higher chances myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 01:18 AM
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It isn’t my fault. Let’s leave it at that. I feel like more men should realise the dating position women have is absurd. A woman I know is three times my weight. She still pulls dates. Not because she is attractive, or fun or confident. Simply because being a horny woman is enough. Why don’t men have higher standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 01:00 AM
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Written by a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 12:55 AM
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And what if we just don’t? Ignoring all the implications. I feel like: it’s not my fault I am apparently not attractive. If women don’t want to date me, that’s perfectly fine! But then don’t expect me to help you, feel empathy for you, praise or congratulate you, follow you or just engage with you. For example: a woman once told me she wished for a boyfriend. Multiple men had asked her out on a date. One of them her FWB. He told her he wanted something more romantic. She refused. He told her he …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 12:45 AM
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Lol. Women just don’t have to improve. Not because they are great or anything. No just because they play life with cheat codes. Men have been forced to do so for quite some time now.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 12:28 AM
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So they rather fuck guys who treat them poorly and bitch about it to their less attractive male friends. Very nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 12:26 AM
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No. People just want to talk about their suffering. And they don’t want to be judged. Because here is the joke: men are judged, women are consoled.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 12:25 AM
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Also: women never receive this advice. When a female friend and I were just coming from a break up we could cope in different ways: She could have sex 24/7. I would have been told I was a fucking loser. Guess who of us got a self-esteem boost and who just got a kick to the gutter?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 12:24 AM
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Women are actually equally desperate. The only difference is women just fuck with a random stranger and have it over with. Men will have to wait 10 years lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 12:22 AM
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No, you don’t need to change. I think the general point is a lot of men can accept a lot of women. Really, if you would have wanted, you could have found a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 09:45 AM
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I think because men’s standards are lower for appearances than women’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 09:43 AM
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This
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 09:42 AM
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Oof now it sounds hypocritical
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 09:42 AM
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I think there are a lot of men out there who want to like you for your personality. Here comes the catch: most of the times you put emphasis on this while dating, you end up with a friendship and not a relationship. So I think you would have to show initiative to make clear it is still a date lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 09:41 AM
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Yes. The question is: will it be respected?
/r/AntiFeminists13/01/23 10:58 PM
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I feel like feminism isn’t for me. It’s just stubbornness I suppose. If I don’t like a person or group, I am bound to find a way to challenge them. It may be by letting them look stupid or incredible. For me, I have been rejected by a lot of women - not in a polite way but really in a way they wanted to break me down. For example: once I broke up with my ex-girlfriend, I was threatened to be shot (“You might see bullets flying around… no I don’t know it COULD happen to you”), my name was ruined …
/r/AntiFeminists13/01/23 10:47 PM
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Seems fair. I sometimes have discussions with people in other time zones. If I wake up I have my answers. If they wake up they will have to respond. Fun how these borders and differences still work through online :)
/r/AntiFeminists13/01/23 10:27 PM
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I lacked nothing from my father. In fact, it was the world that ruined my relationship to my father. I wanted to be like everyone else. And yet nobody accepted me that way. It also got my into critical social studies. I thought I needed to push him away. If my peers don’t love me, I don’t want it from my family. Love feels dirty, oily and greasy somehow. I will not raise my sons differently. They need tp know the world for what it is: a nasty place. But I admit, I will have to wait until they ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 10:12 PM
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Indeed: guys are insecure because they are unattractive. A lot of people blame men for their own suffering. But there is a wall you hit after a while. Sometimes people just don’t like your face. I even had a girl a while back who liked me. When I asked her out, she had just discovered Tinder. Suddenly she didn’t like me anymore. I was not doing well compared to her Tinder guys. “Let’s just stay friends”. How did it make me feel? Insecure. It had nothing to do with attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 10:06 PM
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Good.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 06:40 PM
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Well again: it hurts women to think like this as well. I see it so often in other subs: “why are men only using me for sex? Why is no man interested in me?”. And I totally get it: as long as women have these toxic standards, they will stay single too long. Men don’t benefit from this either since they are getting rejected harshly and frequently. I actually tried dating and I got rejected frequently and harshly. I was a cool guy until I realized I was being used by women. They just wanted a guy-f…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 06:35 AM
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They came at me first. Why is this a warning to me?
/r/AntiFeminists12/01/23 06:08 AM
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Good. Let´s see where replaceability brings us. Making these men responsible for their own problem is just a lazy explanation at best, evil at worst. Because really: it isn't. I'll die on this hill: women have too high standards. And it hurts them as well, because they will resent the men they will settle for with no valid reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 06:07 AM
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Yes. Only women don't have to choose for single moms and obese women. They only would have to choose for boring IT-guy and regular Joe. I kind of think they are just spoiled at this point. Because frankly, we all know how they treat fat guys. And men actually lower their standards more often than they would like to report.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 11:32 PM
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I did answer you. It's ok: not everyone learns how to read in school. Maybe ask someone to help you with my message? Maybe your mummy will be able to understand my message. My point was: the standards for men is not on the floor, women's standards are in the sky. If the bar is not determined by what men do with their lives, by what is it determined then? If you can throw in a coherent answer, you might get a cookie.
/r/AntiFeminists11/01/23 11:18 PM
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Because women tend to have A LOT of options, I cannot believe she does not have any viable candidates. More likely, she makes the choice to be really picky. And therefore she is single. But that is a choice. Most women, if not all, can date if they want to. They just chose to make it complicated or not to date. Men on the other hand, can lower their standards all they want. They can be educated, have a job, be fit and social. Still: if they are not the cute muscular guys from Tinder, they just l…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 11:11 PM
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Not a dumb statement. I think there are more than enough subreddits for you to explore this statement. Trust me: I think a lot of men would disagree with you. But to start you up a little bit, here's some food for thought: do you really think the bar for men is on the floor? It would have to mean men are not doing anything with their lives. As a student who encountered a lot of ambitious and sweet men, I find this really hard to believe. I have female friends, and I heard them reject perfectly f…
/r/AntiFeminists11/01/23 11:09 PM
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Because it’s really by choice for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 10:58 PM
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No women’s standards are just very high.
/r/AntiFeminists11/01/23 10:50 PM
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Fine, then just be alone ;) but if you ever want companionship, know it is completely your own fault. I don’t ever want to see women complain about it. Again: personal responsibility goes both ways. I have seen enough subs about women. I heard from enough women they wanted to date their men from Tinder. And I kind if enjoy hearing this, because it is the logical consequence of their behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 10:30 PM
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Again: then you must be one of the few. My alternative stays: if women are going to complain being single or lonely, we just not take them seriously. Because they had a choice, and they rather had a man with big muscles, six figures in the bank and a broad social network. And apparently those men weren’t interested in them. There were enough men with less of these qualities who wanted to go out with them. Bur women just thought these men were not good enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 10:25 PM
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I feel like men need to fill in this argument differently: “ok, so men need to adapt? Not in the way you want though. I don’t get what I want, I am not going to give you what you want”. A lot of women want a relationship sooner or later: you won’t offer it to them. Or they really need friendship: not from me. Or they really need someone to help them: “maybe ask your FWBs. Bye”. That’s the only thing I can see happening. If we really don’t owe anyone, two can play that game.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 10:22 PM
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Can’t choose to meet. Women tend to depict men as worse than they actually are. A lot of young men would favor a more equitable division of household chores: especially since their female counterparts also work fulltime now. Also, I noticed young women want to be amazed by a partner. It you can’t do that, then off you go. It’s not about men not being decent partners but about women having too high standards due to having more choice than they can actually handle. Women who rather be alone than s…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 10:07 PM
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“The bare minimum” = too high standards most men can’t meet. It’s very much about looks, social status, financial resources and much more than that. So I kind of feel for me and my fellow-men: we would love to be in a loving relationship. However, due to women having access to thousands of men for sex, I am suddenly not good enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 09:52 PM
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I was once with a girl having shit tons of money. Let’s just say: good upbringing. I had to work four days a week, go to school AND do all these things with her. Her family scolded me - why would she leave her much more highly educated ex boyfriend for a loser like me? For context: I had a public speaking job at the time. I study in uni, I am proud to say my grades are in the higher end of my class and I am going to do two masters. Still, her boyfriend was an engineer at some American university…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 07:33 PM
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I also got negative reactions on dating. Women would receive empathy. I would, at best, just be equally guilty as the girl doing me wrong.
/r/MensRights11/01/23 03:10 PM
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I think it’s not only sex. Women can go into a relationship anytime they want. They also have other advantages of being desired. Men on the other hand actually have to pursue. If we don’t make an effort, we are single forever. I see a lot of people giving women merit for being happy single: they are more in touch with their feelings, have better friendships, bla bla bla. I think it’s more: everyone cares about relationships and women get them more easily, therefore they don’t feel as anxious to …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 08:27 AM
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I would never ask a number or anything. But some girls with a high body count just display some behavior that is unattractive. For example: some girl I dated said she liked men with ´experience´ and she would never ´date a virgin´. Or she will cheat on you (which she actually did) and try to blame you for it. Or be a little bit too close to her male friends. I don´t think a number is that threatening, but it is really the behavior that accompanies women that think a high body count somehow makes…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 08:14 AM
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