Sshaddap Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)

Upvotes	Comment on	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
8	"if you dont approach or escalate as a guy your pretty much screwed" We're supposed to be, but we're not. Unfortunately, men can pose a danger to women, and while most men wouldn't cause a woman harm, women cannot distinguish between those who would and those who wouldn't. There's also a self reinforcing effect where a man who is approached often takes it to mean more than it does exactly because it's relatively rare, which can lead to unsafe situations. Not saying this is a good thing or how it's supposed to be, just wanted to give some pushback to the framing t…	/r/ExRedPill	03/01/23 09:34 AM
0	What’s your thoughts on female victims of harassment and violence? Look at feminist activism for womens' issues. If you can find similar levels of activism for mens' issues that have resulted in policy change to mens' benefit (explicitly, not as a side-effect of womens' benefit like expanding rape to include penetration of any orifice), then I'll accept that the movement isn't as majority anti-men in its activism. I think it's ridiculous to ask for similar levels of activism, since feminism believes (imo correctly) that women are more oppressed than men. Let me…	/r/MensRights	25/04/22 11:14 AM
0	What’s your thoughts on female victims of harassment and violence? Cool. Can you evidence this? What kind of evidence are you looking for? Blog posts, threads, articles, marches in the streets... I don't want to go listing evidence, only to have it immediately discredited as not enough. Considering that, when politicians propose raising womens' retirement age to match men, or reduce funding available to female domestic violence survivors, feminists protest out in the street. First off, any source on that claim on retirement age protests? Second, why is it bad t…	/r/MensRights	25/04/22 10:32 AM
0	What’s your thoughts on female victims of harassment and violence? Koss was pretty liberal with the womens' responses, labeling experiences as rape that the women did not. But for men, labelling those same experiences as rape is "inappropriate". Can you show me an instance in any of Koss's papers where that happened? As in, a link to an actual paper of hers and a direct quote from that paper? Even if it wasn't Koss' intention, can you at least acknowledge that it has been used to entrench rights disparities? And, if you can do that, can you agree that the Femin…	/r/MensRights	25/04/22 09:41 AM
0	What’s your thoughts on female victims of harassment and violence? When asked about "forced sex" and "verbal coercion", 2.8% men and 2.3% women studied reported forced sex while 22% men and 24.5% women reported verbal coercion. Yes, which is exactly the point. The reason Koss considered in inappropriate to label a man who was forced to perform penetrative sex as a rape victim in the context of the survey, is that men will often not consider themselves rape victims. In the words of Koss, But, she or he cannot reveal the crime unless they are included in the samp…	/r/MensRights	25/04/22 08:59 AM
0	What’s your thoughts on female victims of harassment and violence? Can you explain how this means anything other than "forced sex is not rape when a woman does it to a man"? Did you actually read the comment I linked? Because not only does that comment do exactly that, it even criticizes Koss's language as callous. I want to respond to the rest of your comment, but only if you provide an actual rebuttal to the one I linked or can at least demonstrate that you've read it. Otherwise I see little point in putting in the effort of reading the thing you linked, as I…	/r/MensRights	25/04/22 07:57 AM
1	What’s your thoughts on female victims of harassment and violence? I don't care about karma. Up/downvotes determine how high up a comment shows in a thread. With enough downvotes, comments are collapsed by default. Hence, it's a form of moderation.	/r/MensRights	25/04/22 07:05 AM
0	What’s your thoughts on female victims of harassment and violence? So you skim three posts, decide you don't like them, and dismiss everything else? Is that how you approach all contrary evidence? How about the fact that the plymouth shooter was a contributor to this sub (mentioned further down)? Does that not make you feel the least bit uncomfortable?	/r/MensRights	24/04/22 09:51 PM
0	What’s your thoughts on female victims of harassment and violence? That list of search results contains many links to this subreddit.	/r/MensRights	24/04/22 09:25 PM
0	What’s your thoughts on female victims of harassment and violence? A common retort to degendering rape laws is "well men make up 99% of rapists!". This comes from a definition of rape proposed by feminist researcher Mary Koss - if, as it is in the UK, rape is defined as something a cisgendered man can do, then of course "most" rapists are going to be men. Gendered rape laws and definitions are dumb, as most feminists will agree. You are misrepresenting Mary Koss. She did not propose a definition or rape. This comment explains it much better than I could. The bu…	/r/MensRights	24/04/22 09:13 PM
1	What’s your thoughts on female victims of harassment and violence? Men's lib requires strict moderation to prevent it from being flooded with troglodytes from the manosphere. The moderation team is quite transparent and will answer questions through modmail. Moreover, a sub can be an echochamber without being moderated. Upvotes/downvotes are a form of self-moderation, and considering that all you have to do to get downvoted into oblivion here is just mention that you're a feminist, yeah I'd call it an echochamber.	/r/MensRights	24/04/22 09:09 PM
1	What’s your thoughts on female victims of harassment and violence? None of those papers discredit feminism as a whole. As a sociological school of thought, feminism is subject to criticism. While I don't have the background to assess the quality of those papers, presuming that they are sound, their criticism is good and welcome. A movement being flawed does not mean that it is rotten to its core like the men's rights movement is :^)	/r/MensRights	24/04/22 09:07 PM
1	What’s your thoughts on female victims of harassment and violence? The main fallacy you're making is that you're conflating the patriarchy with men as a gender. Feminists don't want to undermine men, but they want to dismantle the patriarchy. These are two different things. None but perhaps the most radical of feminists think that men are inherently awful or anything. Rather, they believe that patriarchal society instills values into men that cause them to hold harmful views of women, and also of each other. You (and this sub collectively) seem to have some wei…	/r/MensRights	24/04/22 09:04 PM
1	What’s your thoughts on female victims of harassment and violence? Can you link to what you mean? It would be good to see what qualifies for you. https://www.reddit.com/r/AgainstHateSubreddits/search?q=mensrights&restrict_sr=on&include_over_18=on&sort=relevance&t=all	/r/MensRights	24/04/22 09:00 PM
1	What’s your thoughts on female victims of harassment and violence? It's saying "men", not "all men". Do you deny that there is a lot of pornography where an important component is that the woman is suffering pain? There is a whole fucking category of "painal" for fuck's sake. You can speak out against male violence against women without dehumanizing and demonizing men. This is why i am antifeminist. This entire sub is focused on the demonization of women.	/r/MensRights	24/04/22 08:59 PM
1	What’s your thoughts on female victims of harassment and violence? You can speak out against male violence against women, and still care about female violence against men. The two positions are not mutually exclusive.	/r/MensRights	24/04/22 08:55 PM
1	What do you think MRM should be doing better of ? This sub is just lost. I wanted to try engaging some people here, but there is no point. I got so many comments just for saying that feminists do care about male abuse victims, all with the same fridge temp IQ takes... These people can't be reached anymore. This sub should frankly be shut down, it's complicit in radicalizing young men and funneling them further down the manosphere. The Plymouth shooter was a contributor to this sub; he will not be the last. r/mensrights does not give a shit abou…	/r/MensRights	24/04/22 08:52 PM
0	What do you think MRM should be doing better of ? Absolutely. I also minored in CS, with a major in physics. The disparity was a little bit better in physics, but there was still a lot of noticeable misogyny, especially locker room talk within the study association.	/r/MensRights	24/04/22 08:38 PM
0	What do you think MRM should be doing better of ? I wish women would also choose to pursue those careers. Unfortunately, those fields are absolutely rampant with misogyny. The mush brains in this sub will say that women will not pursue those fields because of some imagined female privilege, ignoring the fact that a woman going into the trades can expect near-constant sexual harassment.	/r/MensRights	24/04/22 08:09 PM
0	What’s your thoughts on female victims of harassment and violence? You can't just use yourself as a source lmao. Regardless, your comment makes a couple of important errors. I want to reply in detail but don't have the time rn. !RemindMe 10 hours	/r/MensRights	24/04/22 08:22 AM
-3	What’s your thoughts on female victims of harassment and violence? If the stats used by the "bad ones" were obtained properly, then there is no problem with reusing them as long as they are properly recontextualized. Do you have any specific sources that lead you to believe that the "wider feminist movement" doesn't speak out against the "bad ones"? Because it's not hard to find feminist critics of things like eg the Duluth model. You realise that most of us here were feminists at one point, right? Do you have a poll to show that, or is that just your gut feeli…	/r/MensRights	24/04/22 08:18 AM
0	What’s your thoughts on female victims of harassment and violence? Lol yeah because this sub totally isn't a homogeneous echo chamber. R/menslib regularly discusses toxicity perpetrated by women, so you're just lying there. It's usually looked at from the framework of patriarchal standards, sure. But patriarchy =/= men.	/r/MensRights	24/04/22 08:13 AM
-5	What’s your thoughts on female victims of harassment and violence? If you're interested in talking more productively about male issues, check out r/menslib. This sub is more about hating women and feminists than it is about helping men. Best to stay away from the manosphere. Unless you're like me and enjoy engaging these people from time to time :)	/r/MensRights	24/04/22 07:42 AM
-9	What’s your thoughts on female victims of harassment and violence? As a feminist: male victims of abuse are important and need support, regardless of whether the perpetrator was a man or a woman. There have been some organizations that belittle them, but they don't represent the feminist movement at large. Why don't you have a look at r/askfeminists to see what real feminists think, rather than get mad at your straw feminist? Also, your nazi comparison is nonsensical on all levels.	/r/MensRights	24/04/22 06:59 AM
2	Interview request - NBC News Thanks for the heads up, I'll delete my comment then.	/r/ExRedPill	17/03/22 01:37 PM