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Standard-Logic/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 08:49 PM
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Because it's more fun to flaunt our attractiveness to make average-looking, high-n women feel like shit with our based opinions that are typically summarily dismissed by these same women as "incel-like".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 12:32 AM
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Not a strawman. That's exactly what you implied with your statements. You can motte-and-bailey all you want. Tell me, what exactly are you were trying to say with "a lake doesn't get worn out by rowing" or "sex is a healthy food" in refutation of an argument criticizing high n woman? hmmm? How should one interpret that? Maybe next time you could actually elaborate on your point instead of using nebulous analogies to speciously come off intellectually? I don't need to answer any of your insipid a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 10:40 PM
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Your argument is nonsensical. I'm pretty sure you should have learned not to put the square peg in the circular hole when you were 3, but here we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 10:04 PM
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The lady doth protest too much methinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 10:01 PM
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I don't think I could concoct a more fallacious argument riddled with false analogies if I tried. But I guess analogies give the illusion of logic in its absence. First, you compare a human's sexual capacity to a lake and sex to rowing. Next, you compare sex to a healthy food. Then, you imply sex makes people feel alive and validated. These together imply that sex is good regardless of with whom and how it is done; a bold yet evidently untrue claim based on all available data (infidelity, divorc…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 09:58 PM
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Or maybe... fallacy fallacy? Yes, cohabitation is obviously bad for future marital prospects; I can't believe someone would be so influenced by their own behaviors that they would try to sarcastically portray such an obvious position as counterintuitive. Deciding to live with someone (and sleeping with them) before marriage shows such blatant contempt for and hesitancy towards marriage that only ignorami would attempt to argue the irrelevance of it as a predictor of marital success. And sexual p…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 09:46 PM
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A prince that doesn't mind committing to a harlot... and, yet you dare call me the dreamer. Regardless, I don't know how you can't see the obvious parallels. I'm not looking for trash (aka high n women). I'm looking for a unicorn (aka low n princess). Shrug. And, if it weren't for my position on abortion and high n women, you'd be putty. This reaction formation is funny to me though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 09:39 PM
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Is the irony not lost on you how you could just gender flip your comment and exchange "misogynist" with "high n woman" and more-or-less argue my point for me? Besides, I already know I'm your type.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 09:25 PM
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Women don't ask in real life, so my red pillness must not matter to most women. 3head.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 09:11 PM
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"Yeah, I've got the same opinions on dating as 20 year old women" isn't the rebuttal you think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 08:45 PM
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If a singular variable can indicate a 1.13 odds ratio of infidelity per sexual partner (amongst other things previously mentioned), increasing the chance of infidelity from 10% at 2 previous partners to 50% at 21 partners, then that man would certainly have to be inept to commit without seeking out that information. It's not a matter of "thinking" it is so; it just is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 08:36 PM
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Nor does anyone want to hear the advice of below average attractiveness, 40-year old men that have the intellectual depth of 20 year old college women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 08:29 PM
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No. The point is that implying the men they date are gullible, ignorant, desperate or stupid isn't the kind of 'gotcha' the women on this sub seem to think it is. Rather, it illuminates the character and quality of the woman in question via her settling for allegedly 'inept' men. And personality clusters indicate that women are far more emotionally fragile. This is irrefutable. Men care about n-count because we don't mind non-commitment if we have options. If we can plate 5 chicks, why would we …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 08:22 PM
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Do you women have any better argument than derailing by implicating insecurity? I know it's hard for ppd women to grasp but individuals might actually not be talking about their own experiences but rather a point of discussion that is repeated ad nauseam.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 07:56 PM
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Uh huh. Your argument is still bad. And passive aggression is pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 07:05 PM
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You're just wrong. And failing to substantiate your points with any supportive data. For obvious reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 06:59 PM
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Your argument falls apart with the knowledge that I already addressed the failings of the bandwagon fallacy, which you are using to suggest your N-count which I presume is around 7 would be indicative of a genuinely good committal partner material in a vacuum, which it's not. It is high with regards to good relationship material; that is all that matters. And your obsession with insecurity highlights a low-level, myopic lens that focuses on tonal and emotional implications (aka feelings) over ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 06:58 PM
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How very fortunate. Again, for a singular (unsubstantiated) point of contention, while ignoring infidelity, unhappiness, mental illness, and substance abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 06:48 PM
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No. That's an argument centered on making women, such as yourself, feel better about their sordid past by inculpating men's insecurity over the implications of their own decisions. Which, of course, is the norm of the women's arguments here. Insecurity (aka ad hominem) arguments don't address whether N-count should matter. Which makes it a red herring and moot as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 06:46 PM
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Your ignorance of most points of concern and isolation of a singular point of concern without providing evidence has been noted.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 06:37 PM
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Yeah, some men are sincerely insecure and have such limited options that they would commit to low n women. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 06:36 PM
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This sub has the most impressive arguments for why N-count shouldn't matter. Allegedly, because they don't ask in real life, N-count must not matter to most men, despite all evidence showing why people should ask and care about past sexual history (divorce, infidelity, unhappiness, mental illness, substance abuse disorders). This means that these women are fine committing to men that are any combination of gullible, ignorant, desperate or stupid, and they feel content utilizing this bandwagon fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 06:28 PM
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To collect cats. Lots of cats.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 05:54 PM
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It comes from women rationalizing why a man wouldn't be receptive to said hints. Obviously, as per the hypoagency and coddling of modern women, the issue has to stem from the incapacity of men rather than the repulsiveness of modern women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 05:53 PM
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And I will block everyone who disagrees with me to show how bad it is for debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 01:47 AM
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Support for the new blocking feature is a litmus test for intellectual inflexibility. Anyone who supports the feature should not be here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 01:41 AM
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Bye ppd. I always get blocked by people who have terrible arguments. Echo chamber inc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 07:55 PM
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Again quit sperging and arguing for the sake of arguing. LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 05:54 PM
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bitching all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 02:16 PM
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You can just admit I'm special. You don't have to play coy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 11:46 AM
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I got banned for 1 day after 1 previous warning. I guess I'm special.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 04:22 AM
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I agree, hence why I said chronic issues. What you mention is one of the reasons that marriage benefits women more. People just tend to react to immediate consequences not long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 03:05 AM
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Thanks Jojo.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 02:43 AM
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Women do not bring more to the table. Male utilization of commitment as an alternative mating strategy to attract higher quality mates implies that women benefit from relationships significantly more so than men. The better outcomes of single fathers vs. single mothers further supports this claim, along with the worse and chronic issues of divorce for women. Further, I remember reading in countries with fairer divorce courts, there is greater parity in male vs. female initiation of divorce court…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 02:35 AM
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why do you think things are the way they are in our current western society? A few reasons. Impatience. Life is getting easier and easier, and, as such, humans are not only searching for a way to feel alive but also becoming increasingly unable to delay gratification. And, sex is pleasurable. Technology. The invention of the birth control pill and more widespread abortion made sex easier and less costly to give and attain. Competition. In order to secure a relationship, women can undercut the ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 06:46 PM
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The first study utilized two different methodologies of collecting data for the reasons you mentioned: to see if there's a tendency to lie in either, so that the researchers could be more assured of their data. The fact that there was a stronger infidelity correlation, but still existent, using the face-to-face amongst data compared to recordings refutes any claim that the sole reason is due to more honesty from more sociosexual women. The study was for finding infidelity risks. Here's the excer…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 06:16 PM
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Astonishingly based.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 05:48 PM
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Don't worry. I can guide you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 05:46 PM
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Comparing presidential election margin to single motherhood reveals a barely negative correlation between conservatism and single motherhood. It's basically a flat line. The top 4 states are clear outliers. With DC: Slope: -.0038, R\<sup>2:</sup> .11 Without DC: Slope: -.001, R\<sup>2:</sup> .0005 Fitted to a polynomial, it's clear the U shape still fits. The states high in single motherhood are mildly conservative or moderate; the states very high in conservatism are the lowest in single mother…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 05:16 PM
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The promiscuity? https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17605537/ https://archive.md/SDVEU
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 05:10 PM
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What are you even saying? I'm not arguing about the number of kids, merely about the states and where they rank, just as you are. As an example, looking at the states with the lowest percent single mothers, you'll find they are mostly conservative. You could say "It seems that there are fewer single mothers in more conservative states." That would still be incorrect, just as your assertion is. These statements both imply if you take a state, and, only knowing its relative conservatism, you could…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 04:38 PM
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No you weren't. Your claim was: "It seems that there are more single mothers in more conservative states." That asserts a correlation. It's in writing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 04:12 PM
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You're really failing to grasp the issue with your argument from a statistical perspective. Taking a cut of the data that shows a greater percentage of conservative states in no way indicates an overall correlation between conservatism and single motherhood. As I mentioned, Utah is very conservative and has the lowest rates of single motherhood and births out of wed lock. Using Utah (or wyoming whatever) and your logic, we can say that conservative states have the lowest rates of single motherho…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 03:54 PM
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You can't pass off your response as "cheeky" when you spent all this time arguing with me how it was true, even going as far as to say New Mexico was a conservative state. Appeal to humor is never a good argument. Cherry picking, on the other hand, is not black and white. You can cherry pick from data where the consensus is mostly true and you can cherry pick data where there is no consensus or it is mostly untrue. I merely take issue with the latter, and I will continue to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 03:44 PM
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Yes, we're all biased. I'm biased, for sure. And yes I'm harsh. To be clear, I'm not really annoyed so much at the use of data that supports the position, but really the ability to, on a dime, pivot away from data and appeal to emotion. Take promiscuity, for example. In the past, I've asserted that sex before marriage is one of the most controllable and largest predictor of infidelity. 1.13 odds ratio per sexual partner. 10% chance with 2 partners, 50% chance with 20. Virgin marriages have the g…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 03:35 PM
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I can argue that your data doesn't show the full picture, which it doesn't and what I have been doing. Abortions are higher in liberal states. Divorces are higher in conservative states. Family support is higher in conservative states. The situation isn't a binary. Do an analysis on percent conservatism by the demographics voting tendency and actually get some meaningful data. Asserting top x are conservative or bottom x are conservative means nothing because it's, as mentioned, gerrymandering. …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 03:17 PM
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I just used your initial source. You should recognize that. And you're still gerrymandering the data. Conservatism has always trended with family values, as marriage is a conservative institution. You can reject and cherrypick all the data you want, it's of little import to me. And my worldview? Look back at all my comments. I'm merely rejecting the use of your data and you incorrectly defining conservative states as more welfare-dependent and higher in single motherhood. I never said conservati…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 02:53 PM
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2022 data? we are 17 days in. And are you seriously pushing that as a valid source? You're really stretching to find something to validate the fact you were initially wrong. And I can cookie cut the data as well. #1 most children born out of wed-lock: liberal. #1 least children born out of wed-lock: conservative. Yes, we can gerrymander the data to say anything we want. Look. You never corrected saying mothers were on meth in the 60s. You never admitted that you lacked perspective regarding abor…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 01:55 PM
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Stop defining New Mexico as Conservative-Leaning. No matter how many times you say that, it doesn't make it true. You're using self-defined political affiliations that ignore "moderates" who vote a certain direction. And stop. The graph doesn't suggest that at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 01:38 PM
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Which is wrong, because New Mexico votes democrat. Are you asserting that a state that votes democrat is "conservative", just because most of the people that vote democrat define themselves as moderate? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_states_and_blue_states Further, finding red states as the most welfare-dependent is done by using similar shady tactics by redefining obviously blue states as red states, like the now Georgia, and New Mexico.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 01:28 PM
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No, you're russian. You have no idea how New mexico leans. They have voted blue in the senate and in the last 4 presidential elections. And what does it matter? You're responding to a comment about "baby mamas". If you want to have a discussion on welfare then that should be the topic. Your information refuting his point is wrong (like every comment I have to respond to by you).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 01:12 PM
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Single mothers as defined by the census is "Female householder, no husband present, children of the householder under 18 years." Naturally, this includes divorced mothers. Guess which states have the highest marriages and most children born in wed-lock? And guess which states reward the most child custody to mothers? So which states have the most "single mothers"? Conservative states. The higher number isn't from "baby mamas", these are divorcees. Also, Georgia and NM are blue now. Second, the t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 01:04 PM
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You can make it up for me when I slide into your dms one of these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 04:12 AM
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Don't be so salty. I'm obviously jesting that women aren't wonderful (which is true, bitches aint shit); I'm not commenting on the psychological/sociological phenomenon. Drink your whiteclaw.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 04:04 AM
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I'm not on your post; I'm on another man's comment. I get to talk about whatever I feel like. "But it is always satisfying to show that PPD’s [wo]Men Are Wonderful is as false as the gender flip" I even get to make my own tongue-in-cheek.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 03:48 AM
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bahaha https://www.cdc.gov/healthequity/lcod/men/2016/all-races-origins/index.htm Homicide as a percent of all deaths men: 14.4% 0-19, 9.6% 20-44 women: 7.7% 0-19, 3.7% 20-44 plus men's ~50% higher mortality by 44: https://www.ssa.gov/oact/STATS/table4c6.html Edit: woopsies
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 03:34 AM
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Your headliner "It’s crazy to think about, but men seem to be a leading cause of death for women" is untrue, and is a probable cause for why men are getting triggered. The wording sets up the whole conversation in a way that is anti-men and a false narrative. https://www.cdc.gov/women/lcod/2017/all-races-origins/index.htm Additionally, seeing the obvious trends amongst certain ahem groups of people, I'd be interested if homicide was still a leading cause of death and the leading cause of death f…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 03:18 AM
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Don't forget to carrot-max boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 07:15 PM
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I'm trying to test a person's capacity to entrench themselves in a position, accept evidence that refutes said position, and then still continue to maintain that position out of emotion and ego, even defending it with some half-cocked meme, like "men can't find the clitoris". Insightful case study. Bravo.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 07:01 PM
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Yes, you're right. I'm trying to point out the conflict of asserting that women don't orgasm as much as men because men are bad at sex (hehe xd, men bad womenz good), and this lady's admittance that casual sex (more like emotional disconnect) and lesser partner attractiveness play a significant and deleterious role in female orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 06:46 PM
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Oh really? Your position was quite clear: women and male orgasms are similar, but the reason women don't orgasm is because men are bad at sex. And, now, you're trying to still maintain that position even after admitting that women are significantly less able to orgasm compared to men with less attractive partners and during casual encounters? Do you know how stupid that comes off?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 06:42 PM
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read somewhere that clitoral orgasms are quite similar to male orgasms and not necessarily that hard to achieve. men are just so bad at sex that women give up all hope and have sex for ulterior motives See above. Or is casual sex bad for women now and that's why they can't orgasm? Are their orgasms quite similar to male orgasms or no? I can't quite get a bead on your position.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 06:25 PM
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The facetiousness doesn't illuminate the paradox of women tending to orgasm more frequently in relationships, which are typically with less attractive men than casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 06:16 PM
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My gf(29f) just did the “your skin looks soft can I touch it?” then touched my bald head as a “joke”. I’m (49m) currently in a ball crying in my bathroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 06:10 PM
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Female coital orgasm may be an adaptation for preferentially retaining the sperm of males with "good genes." One indicator of good genes may be physical attractiveness. Accordingly, R. Thornhill, S. W. Gangestad, and R. Comer (1995) found that women mated to more attractive men reported an orgasm during a greater proportion of copulations than did women mated to less attractive men. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26193479/ We find that women have orgasms more often in relationships than in hook…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 05:59 PM
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In that case, I'd probably have to get a lobotomy to make sense of your rambling.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 04:52 PM
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How does your interconnection of erections, philosophy, and physical traits have anything to do with what I just said?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 04:48 PM
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And a man would be a fool to commit to a woman whose femininity is contingent on external influences and perception.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 04:43 PM
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But still a far more enjoyable experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 04:12 PM
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If one finds incessantly crafting specious claims to push an ideological slant as evidence of a decent personality, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 03:35 PM
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Their early work was a little too new wave for my taste. But when Sports came out in '83, I think they really came into their own... commercially and artistically. The whole album has a clear, crisp sound, and a new sheen of consummate professionalism that really gives the songs a big boost.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 02:09 PM
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If she doesn't demonstrate any femininity, she can't be feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 02:01 PM
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feminine That's an interesting way to spin combative, pontifical, and unlikable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 01:53 PM
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Also successful LTR does require a decent personality. Glances at PPD women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 01:30 PM
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You like Huey Lewis and the News?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 03:17 AM
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Because of dishonesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 02:37 AM
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That boyfriend is an insecure soyboy. I let my girlfriend hang out with her ex-FWBs all the time. On many occasion, she doesn't come back at night, so I just give her a call. She always says she is just crashing at one of their places. What good friends, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 02:32 AM
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<sup>larp</sup>
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 02:20 AM
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Nah, fuck fatties.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 11:30 PM
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I know, I'd much rather Emma Watson have a square jaw.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 09:13 PM
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Might as well chop the whole dick and balls off. Beats the slow castration of modern society.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 05:51 PM
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And you do? You brought up 3 points as a complete outsider to a conversation that were irrelevant to the main point. Explain: How does elaborating on a parenthesized point of ideological affiliations matter to whether there exists a moral dilemma in pregnancy to one side? How does "a distinction without a difference" matter at all to the same question of morality? How does a vague point about general killing matter, when you failed to elaborate how that relates to abortion? . It's obvious you br…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 05:06 PM
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I'm going to ignore your first 3 points as they're red herrings. No, it's not disingenuous. The fact of the matter is that one can be considered a moral evil and the other is never. No matter how many clauses, etc. , qualifiers, or else you add to the situation of a pregnant woman giving birth, there's no moral dilemma in the consequent; it is always just hardship or struggle, not evil. The only evil that could have occurred would have to been before, not during pregnancy: rape, but that wasn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 10:33 AM
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Marriage is shown to shift couples’ attitudes, making them more similar to each other over the course of marriage. But, the shift is not even. Rather, women become more conservative and see themselves as less connected to other women over the duration of the marriage. Single women, on the other hand, are more supportive of feminist issues than married women, with feminist attitudes intensifying for women who rely more heavily on their own earnings. https://theconversation.com/why-white-married-w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 05:18 AM
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No, your first point is wrong. "Anti-choice" (your bias is showing) people simply view fetuses as a human life, and, as a human life, it is immoral for another human to kill it. There is no indication of relative importance, and that can depend on the moral position of any individual pro-life person. I'd argue most pro-lifers don't view fetuses as important as born babies, but they simply view killing humans as wrong. Your second point is just a bunch of rationalizations. If a pro-life person vi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 04:47 AM
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You're strawmanning the situation, there is absolutely no indication that this person views the fetus as as important as her daughter. There is an indication, however, that she prioritizes the life and existence of the fetus over the inconvenience and setback of her daughter. That's completely different than the point you're trying to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 04:37 AM
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Then shouldn't this go under the automod because it's off topic? Your second sentence is irrelevant to what I said anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 04:31 AM
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No, you don't understand it, because you "think she's total nuts" and you're arguing about a rational distinction for a position one holds on a moral level. Also, I find your second paragraph amusing. Preventing person A from killing person B, means you love person B more? That's a ridiculous contention, and really highlights a lack of perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 04:29 AM
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People who are pro-life generally believe that the fetus is a living human (which it is in biological terms). If your child were to kill something that you consider not only a living human but also your flesh and blood, how would you react? Have some perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 04:19 AM
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I'm seeing him in March.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 03:02 AM
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Either those men aren't high enough in attractiveness for the multiplier to send them over the cusp of what would be considered "hot" or their fame doesn't demonstrate their confidence/personality that draws women in for that fame to matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 02:33 AM
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You don't think that fame could be a scalar multiplier or additive constant applied to attractiveness, giving the perception of hotness for someone who otherwise wouldn't quite be?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 02:25 AM
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Shaming people and dragging others into your battle is cringe.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 12:37 AM
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That's a misapplication of the Madonna/whore complex, which is a failure of proper sexuality in loving relationship. The male version of AF/BB isn't due to a psychoanalytical issue, but rather, men attempting to accomplish two conflicting reproductive drives: maximizing the number of progeny with many women (who will likely be promiscuous) and maximizing the quality of progeny through leveraging their resources and commitment with women that will provide sexual exclusivity (non-promiscuous women…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 10:00 PM
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Goodbye. The argument was that the racist southern democrats became republicans because the south now votes republican is so utterly reductionist it pains me. You failed to understand the mostly non-racist new south experienced a shift in values and chose to support a return to the laissez-faire economic policy from before the new deal. The racists remained firmly entrenched in the democratic party: if you examine the 21 democrats that opposed the civil rights movement, only one, the dixiecrat y…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 08:21 PM
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"Showing" implies one has backed up their statements with actual tangible data or direct examples; it may convince others of their point more-so than vague generalities that are supposedly axiomatic. What we have here is a burden of proof. I've rejected the truth of your general statements, and so it's your duty, as a good faith arguer, to supply evidence that the democrats actually switched to being republican in principal. Point out people. Point out specific policies, not generalities. Anythi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 07:46 PM
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Can you help me understand the relevance of this red herring? Advice does not necessitate behavior, nor does existence of certain advice, whether true or untrue, conflict with the idea that 'women generally don't know how to be appealing to men'. Regardless, there's plenty of advice in direct opposition to what you mention, which push feminist-laden ideological behavioral approaches to the detriment of relationship success.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 06:57 PM
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Still no mention of those democrats that switched? And what of "the great society" and "war on poverty" that decimated black homes and created a state of dependency? Not to mention the continuance of liberal policies that create a system of inequity. And, of course, you mention the disguised racism of Nixon's era that is invisible to you and me, but only racists can detect. Great argument. Funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 06:08 PM
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You joined the conversation to discuss when the "big switch" occurred. It's hardly "splitting hairs" when your initial contribution to the topic at hand is false. You can't now just play-off the argument as something different than what it originally was, notwithstanding your ignorance of the two other two points I made in the same referred comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 05:50 PM
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Of course, because I was refuting your point that the southern strategy was the turning point. Do you really think me responding to the content of your comment is some kind of gotcha? The Emergent Republican Majority was published in 69. And the election was in 68, after his campaign? I'm not sure what points you're trying to make here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 05:40 PM
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"The premise that you created". Let me jog your memory. I merely asked when the "big switch" occurred, and you stated obviously during Nixon's presidency due to the southern strategy. Then, after getting evidence contradicting the existence of a southern strategy, you moved the goal post to indicate that the change occurred for some time generally over the years. That's not me suggesting the 68 election was all that mattered, that was you suggesting that it was the turning point and then changin…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 05:26 PM
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"Splitting hairs" is an interesting way of downplaying an error in premise that holds evidence for one's fundamental misunderstanding of a topic. I'm getting quite the chuckle out of that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 05:11 PM
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Ah, yes, double down on that ad hominem. Given the logic of your argument in this debate, merely me saying "I'm not an idealogue" or me phoning a friend to say "Standard-Logic isn't an idealogue" is evidence of my lack of ideology. I'm sure any 3rd party would astutely determine that you are the impartial one here with that line of logic and focus on emotional appeals and ad hom. Of course. I thought the argument was over? Did something change?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 05:00 PM
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You're not going to hold my hand because you can't. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. You're arguing that the southern democrats changed into republicans, but are unable to supply the key piece of evidence that will prove your case: that the dixiecrats that were so adamantly racist and the democrats that opposed the civil rights movement transferred to the republican party. Why would you avoid doing so, I wonder? Further, an indication that the modern day south votes similarly …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 04:53 PM
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And claim it is either not racist or not used in 68 as some kind trump card. And you have to make the claim that such a strategy was utilized in broad strokes by the republican party for there to be any relevance. By far, your strongest argument has been using a former RNC high ranker's words that generally spoke of a small proportion of republicans that didn't focus on appealing to black voters. Do you not see the irony of you claiming that I, a non-affiliated, moderately conservative American …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 04:42 PM
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Whether or not a civilization utilized a system along with its development is irrelevant, what is important is whether that system directly aided in its development for the better, which has been my argument from the start. Are you going to continue to ignore this statement and talk about whatever drivel you feel pads your non-existent counterpoint?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 04:23 PM
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I'm sure the debate "got boring". Not because you have no evidence to stand on beyond your own presuppositions. There has been no substantive data supplied by you, other than the moving of your hands in an oscillating motion. You have failed to demonstrate when the change to racism occurred, and are now trying to hide the fact that your initial judgement was incorrect. You have failed to demonstrate a direct appeal to racists. You have failed to demonstrate a movement of democratic party members…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 04:18 PM
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I wasn't the one who originally made the claim of Nixon's southern strategy and the shift occurred during his term. So when did the change occur? Over decades or during Nixon's campaign? Your story seems to be a bit shaky. And, further, you're conflating the statement of one man, who already erroneously suggests democrats and not republicans were largely in support of civil rights, that exclaims how some republicans didn't appeal to black voters as indicative of republicans appealing to white ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 04:07 PM
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Are you just going to handwaive, or actually provide information that supports your claim that the southern democrats who opposed the civil rights act switched over to the republican party? Which democrats switched? When did they switch?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 03:53 PM
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Oh really? Even when the Kevin Phillips, the author of the book "The emerging republican majority" that supposedly demonstrates the existence of this southern strategy, denies was even used by the Nixon campaign and got published after formulation and enaction of his "southern" campaign? If this southern strategy was so overtly obvious, can you point out any political statements that Nixon made that appealed to the racists in his "southern strategy"? In failing to do so, I'd recommend learning t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 03:48 PM
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All single men must be garbage Speak for yourself, I definitely am garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 03:18 PM
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If you know the history of this country, it should be of no surprise that changes to any voting law would be controversial... Yes, it's no surprise to me that the party that has historically altered voting eligibility to their benefit would try to do so again by creating controversy regarding the perfectly reasonable requirement of a voter ID.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 03:09 PM
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Yes, actually you do. That's the only way to support your dismissal of my claim that "astrology is just fantasy with no inherent value". Whether or not a civilization utilized a system along with its development is irrelevant, what is important is whether that system directly aided in its development for the better, which has been my argument from the start. One only has to look as far as Nietzsche and Dostoevsky to understand how critical the moral framework of Christianity was for the growth a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 03:04 PM
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I'm sure that's the reason. Not that you're intellectually beyond your purview.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 02:57 PM
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Is that why more republicans than democrats voted for the civil rights acts of the 1960s in both houses? Who was the primary opposition? Be clear, when exactly did this "switch" from southern democrats to being republicans occur?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 02:56 PM
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Sure, give me, an npc, a history lesson.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 02:49 PM
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Democrats. Specifically. "solve a problem that doesn't exist" What "problem that doesn't exist" were democrats historically alleging to solve, Mr. History buff?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 02:43 PM
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Where we non-npcs learn that the democrats instituted poll taxes and literary tests as a way to suppress poor and non-white voters?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 02:34 PM
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And yet you, with your accusations of tragic ignorance, unsurprisingly, haven't added any argument refuting how astrology isn't "just fantasy". You need a more substantive explanation for how the relative position of floating spheres of gas provides beneficial insight into the moral and mortal affairs of those civilizations.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 02:17 PM
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But by your argument, wouldn't it then make more sense for men to have a higher score in conscientiousness? Yes, but I'm able to recognize that facets like diligence and orderliness are essential for providing and protecting one's progeny; I just didn't bring that up for sake of argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 10:10 AM
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Yes, you're right, but, if we take 100 sets of data, what data will people try to get published or focus on, especially nowadays? Regardless, one can make an evolutionary case for agreeableness and neuroticism, given women's reliance on others and their need to protect themselves to ensure the survival of their progeny. And these results are reproducible. What argument could be made that women are more conscientiousness, especially given that male utility has been a factor in mate selection, so …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 09:55 AM
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Given today's social climate, one would always be cautious towards claims that demonstrate women as superior sans evidence. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/325033477_Equalitarianism_A_Source_of_Liberal_Bias Women are wonderful.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 09:38 AM
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And you, person who is strangely showcasing their gender, race, and location, must be the paragon of the impartiality to which we should strive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 09:27 AM
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No, only one survey, not even a scholarly study, the HILDA survey for Australian families showed greater conscientiousness in women. Despite virtually all other articles and data sets demonstrating the contrary, do you feel it is appropriate to suggest something as generally applicable as women are more conscientiousness with one non scientific survey?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 09:17 AM
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Spare the rod.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 02:43 AM
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As long as there's another paradise for you and me, as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 02:08 AM
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No doubt similarly correlating with cries of "where have all the good men gone?"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 01:55 AM
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For your mom? Anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 12:01 AM
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Just spreading the word of god.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 11:57 PM
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higher in conscientiousness reeeee /u/E-2-butene Men and women appear to differ little on either specific aspects of Conscientiousness (encompassing such qualities as diligence, self-discipline, orderliness, and goal-orientation) or the subdimensions it comprises. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2031866/ Conscientiousness describes traits related to self-discipline, organization, and the control of impulses, and appears to reflect the ability to exert self-control in order to follow…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 11:55 PM
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I only dated very secure men. I think you misspelled "men with limited options." It's ok; some guys just can't do better than committing to middling women who have such a low-bar that any tom, dick, or harry can step over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 11:29 PM
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https://www.vice.com/en/article/kzxajn/women-get-death-grip-syndrome-too-and-it-sucks
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 10:57 PM
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Can we please stop asking the same questions over and over in Q4W posts[?] just to dismiss every woman who answers as a liar ? Much better
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 10:03 PM
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But then I don't get to flirt with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 09:31 PM
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u/Mrs_drGree This is trolling right?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 09:18 PM
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It says "pair bonds are a biological phenomenon" and formed from neurotransmitters. READ THE PARAGRAPH. HOLY CRAP. I even bolded the words for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 09:10 PM
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In humans and other vertebrates, pair bonds are created by a combination of social interaction and biological factors including neurotransmitters like oxytocin, vasopressin, and dopamine.[4][5] Pair bonds are a biological phenomenon and are not equivalent to the human social institution of marriage. Married couples are not necessarily pair bonded. Marriage may be a consequence of pair bonding and vice versa. One of the functions of romantic love is pair bonding.[6][4] Can people on this subreddi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 08:58 PM
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Absolutely untrue. Humans can experience all of the above-mentioned varieties of pair bonds. These bonds can be temporary or last a lifetime. Pair bonding is a behavioral and physiological bond between two mated individuals, and is rare among non-human primates.[3] Humans also engage in social pair bonding, where two individuals will form a close relationship that does not involve sex.[4] In humans and other vertebrates, pair bonds are created by a combination of social interaction and biologica…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 08:21 PM
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I'd rather join a seminary.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 08:00 PM
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Religion is a moral philosophy that has used stories, archetypes, and the unknown to guide societies and people to flourish and instruct individuals to live righteously and justly. Astrology is just fantasy with no inherent value. Vastly different.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 07:55 PM
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I was in the pool!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 07:41 PM
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This looks pretty perfect to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 07:33 PM
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Is this from the oblivion character creation screen?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 06:57 PM
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That would make the mod's lives easier. Pass. The mods.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 06:51 PM
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extremely feminine but not clinging to traditionalism. The two are so intrinsically linked you might as well try making an omelette without eggs.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 06:41 PM
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In terms of priority, I'd say that teachers inflating the grades of women because they're women even for the same work needs to be addressed before we start to examine other causes. The bias is systematic, through work, school, and life. https://journals.aom.org/doi/abs/10.5465/ambpp.2016.18003abstract
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 06:30 PM
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The strongest evidence for our position consists of a meta-analysis derived from 57 general-population samples, many of which are normative or carefully constructed representative samples, with a total of 80,928 participants. This reveals no sex difference in general cognitive ability up to the age of 14 and a significant sex difference at 15, which then increases to its adult value of 5 IQ points in favour of males. There is further evidence for a mean male advantage of 4–6 IQ points in four in…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 06:08 PM
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Welcome to sociology. Where the rationalizations are made up, and the science doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 05:43 PM
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That's the patriarchy and stereotype threat in full effect, silly. It's the same reason why there are primarily only male chess grandmasters, because of bias against women. So, when we look at countries with more inclusion and more female chess players, we see women perform better... Wait a minute....
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 05:37 PM
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No, my dates usually just talk about themselves the entire time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 05:00 PM
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You're welcome. Men are more disagreeable and women are more agreeable, so men don't really care about what the mods think. Agreeableness comprises traits relating to altruism, such as empathy and kindness. Agreeableness involves the tendency toward cooperation, maintenance of social harmony, and consideration of the concerns of others (as opposed to exploitation or victimization of others). Women consistently score higher than men on Agreeableness and related measures, such as tender-mindedness…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 04:54 PM
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Or maybe: https://www.bbc.com/news/education-31751672 And as they get older, boys are more likely to "start withdrawing in class and becoming disengaged". When it comes to teachers' marking, the study says there is a consistent pattern of girls' work being "marked up".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 04:43 PM
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What is with this "more conscientious" bullshit that keeps getting spouted here? Men and women appear to differ little on either specific aspects of Conscientiousness (encompassing such qualities as diligence, self-discipline, orderliness, and goal-orientation) or the subdimensions it comprises. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2031866/ Conscientiousness describes traits related to self-discipline, organization, and the control of impulses, and appears to reflect the ability to exert…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 04:38 PM
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Also: when women have jobs. UBI wouldn't address the "small gender income gap"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 03:14 PM
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No. Fuck fatties.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 03:08 PM
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Yeah, how does that logic even parse? They were so poor that they had to buy and eat more calories than they burned? Baffling. Yes, unhealthy food is cheaper per calorie... but they're eating more calories than they need... so isn't the point moot?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 03:05 PM
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Avoid most women, got it. However, women frequently engage in other forms of aggressive behavior (Richardson, 2005). Research consistently reports that women use indirect aggression to an equivalent or greater extent than men (Archer and Coyne, 2005). Indirect aggression occurs when someone harms another while masking the aggressive intent (Björkqvist et al., 1992; Arnocky et al., 2012). Specific examples of indirect aggression include spreading false rumors, gossiping, excluding others from a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 02:55 PM
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https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/018/551/image.png SMH, hard to get.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 02:22 PM
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It’s interesting that this entire debate began with your insistence that women are gaslighting men didn’t include links to specific comments either No it didn't. I never said that. Are you being intentionally ironic with gaslighting? She has no comments supporting her claim refuting the existence of outliers, I looked through her 20 odd comments. You're free to look to. Go ahead and link me. Edit: Also you never asked (there's a difference between asserting that it daily occurs and occurs): http…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 02:08 PM
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Yeah, mb if wording was unclear, I meant that benadryl was one of the few anticholinergics. Also, why won't you let me slide in, bro?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 02:04 PM
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As are you, regardless of lack of data.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 02:00 PM
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You're on a debate sub; it's your job to buttress your point with data, not mine. You're being lazy with your burden of proof by passing it off on me. To give you the benefit of the doubt, I spent time looking, I didn't see anything similar to what you're claiming. Thus, I formed a conclusion based on visible data: you're misinterpreting people's words.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 01:58 PM
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No, not all sleep meds are anticholinergics. The most well known is diphenhydramine (benadryl). Yes, you're right. There are a diverse number of MOAs as a variety of neurotransmitters are involved in sleep processes, such as seratonin, acetylcholine, and GABA. Some work by suppressing wakefulness, others by increasing drowsiness, which are opposite processes, in fact. I'd say, you're probably largely correct in your initial hypothesis. Sleep drugs allow people to be more "comfortable" about thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 01:51 PM
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You won't do me the favor of actually linking your comments? I'm not going to read through your comments when you can much more easily just link a few to me, as you already have knowledge of said comments. Lol. I'm sorry, I'll just have to not believe you since there's no evidence of the contrary. Agree to disagree I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 01:42 PM
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Sure, but you can find more studies on the topic. Like taking anticholinergics.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 01:35 PM
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Please provide comments. If it happens about everyday they shouldn't be hard to find. I sincerely doubt men are arguing that outliers don't exist. It's infinitely more likely they are arguing that the proportion of women who would lie about being an outlier far exceeds actual outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 01:32 PM
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Ok. Motte-and-Bailey me. That's not what you said. Previously: "men here gaslight me everyday." Unless you're asserting that everyday, a man says "all women are x. 100% no exceptions. Therefore you must be x too, and if you say you aren't you're lying." Is that what you're asserting?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 01:22 PM
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Wut? I just explained that there is a difference between broad trends (desire for low n) and outliers (your preferences), and how that relates to "reality".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 01:07 PM
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First, there a significant difference between broad trends and outliers. Your situation is the latter. Second, for the former, if I were to say, men in general are stronger than women. I'd be telling the truth. If someone were to come in here and say, actually, in the real world, women are as strong as men. That's both lying and gaslighting, as per the definition in the linked page. As is your example shown. Reality is men don't generally like promiscuous women. The woman is asserting that men d…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 12:59 PM
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No. That's an extreme, niche case of gaslighting. Gaslighting is merely lying in a manner to make another unsure about their reality. This is exactly what women are doing. I'm not going to get into a semantic dispute. If you have a better word to encapsulate what women are doing, go for it. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaslighting
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 12:26 PM
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That must be why I'm developing a fetish for unintelligent fat women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 12:22 PM
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It's not for the numbers. It's for comparison to children. I already provided the numbers. But: In 2012, roughly 16 million Adderall prescriptions were written for adults between ages 20 and 39, according to QuintilesIMS, an information-and-technology-services company that gathers health-care-related data. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/16/magazine/generation-adderall-addiction.html
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 12:12 PM
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You're misunderstanding. Women aren't trying to make men insane, women are lying to alter social perception to make their own choices seem more reasonable. Take for instance high n women. Most men have a visceral disgust towards promiscuous women, and don't want them in long term relationships. However, women, typically high n ones, on here will adamantly assert that men, in general, don't care and that the preference for lower n women is a fringe belief only held within this subreddit. However,…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 12:04 PM
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Adults are the largest consumers of Adderall.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 11:38 AM
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Or a societal collapse.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 11:29 AM
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You realize what "dependency rate among past year amphetamine users" means, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 11:23 AM
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Only one side of the gender need equation has changed, which suggests that your second paragraph is more correct. The male need for women hasn't changed at all. Their need has always been primarily sexual, with a splash of companionship agreeableness and inspiration. Only the women's needs for men has been fundamentally altered by modernity.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 11:15 AM
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Ambien is largely ineffective and basically a placebo, and sleep drugs are theorized to increase the risk of dementia and cognitive decline.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 11:06 AM
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How exactly could men adapt to the female biological prerogative of hyperselectivity and hypergamy buttressed by social movements and governmental support to alleviate their need for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 10:54 AM
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Adderall is an "amphetamine salt" and still widely prescribed. The word doesn't imply meth. In 2019, Adderall was the 24th most commonly prescribed medication in the United States, with more than 24 million prescriptions. That alone is larger than 2-3% of the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 10:16 AM
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Preemption comes off too defensive. Let the attack come and then post a picture shirtless. Radio Silence. Every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 11:46 PM
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I'll leave the next one for you. Sorry man.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 10:55 PM
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Russia's position towards Ukraine is completely different. The eastern flatlands of Ukraine (the european plain) serve as the only point of land vulnerability for Russia, due to the mass of mountains that surround Russia on all other sides. Securing Ukraine is securing the safety of Russia; losing Ukraine to NATO is an affront to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 09:02 PM
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Attentional bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 08:48 PM
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No, you're pointing how you don't agree with my points, that's massively different than a "framing bias". You framed cheating as merely "feeling like the partner has moved on" and that only women experience potential risks to her fertility and her body, which are both untrue, glossing over the contractual implications of a relationship, the biological prerogatives of men vs women, and paternity fraud. I'm not ignoring risks to health. This argument has been merely anecdotal; you've never supplie…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 06:02 PM
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You're ignoring my question, "where is my biased framing exactly?" Additionally, you seem to be obstinately arguing a point that is not even in question, and can't even possibly understand how you're off topic. Using outcomes from anecdotal experiences is much more "feels" than whatever I have said. Pointing out my male solipsism is rather ironic, because it's infinitely likely that the much more prevalent female in-group bias is more significantly influencing your beliefs, which is further supp…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 05:44 PM
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Where is my biased framing exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 05:20 PM
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Worse as in the partner being more negatively affected. A man feeling like she moved on is not worse to me than the feelings of betrayal caused him she also experiences plus the potential risks to her body and fertility. I'm not buying this biased framing in the slightest. I've already shown mathematically that an act of cheating is more likely to transmit an STD from a woman to a man, and further, there are countless cases where the woman cheats, breaking the terms of the relationship contract,…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 04:52 PM
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Yes, yes. I get what you're trying to say, but that doesn't make it a valid argument for the topic at hand. Again, we're not arguing the broad-case of infidelity such as 'men cheat more than women', we're arguing an isolated instance of adultery, with similar circumstances implicit in the statements "it's worse when the woman does it" and "a man cheating on a woman isn't the same as a woman cheating on a man". It's a red herring. You're arguing that men, in general, cheat in worse ways than wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 04:26 PM
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No, it's really not good logic. You're applying a bunch of qualifiers to the act of cheating, such as "men are more prolific in their cheating", "more sex with more ppl condomless", "less likely to notice", etc. to bolster your argument that men cheating is worse, which is simply arguing something tangentially related. The argument isn't whether men cheat more often or cheat in more prolific ways, it's whether a man cheating on a woman is the same as a woman cheating on a man. Your need to expan…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 03:21 PM
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Your comment doesn't even make sense. In fact, if we were to take a single instance of cheating, your argument supports the opposite case, that women cheating is worse. It's well documented that women contract STDs/STIs at a higher rate than men. Because of this, if we are to assume that the cheater has adulterous sex a single time, a female cheater is more likely to end up infected. Afterwards, because the cheater will go on to have sex with their relationship partner many times, the STD transf…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 02:59 PM
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I get what you're saying, and, yes, I agree that traditional attitudes generally cause marriages to be more successful, which makes sense, as marriage is a traditional institution, but I never implied that the surname change is what causes the marriage to be short lived. the disrespect a woman needs to obstinately choose to keep their own surname makes it come as no surprise that marital surname change is associated with longer marriages. In this statement, I stated outright that it was the atti…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 02:48 PM
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If you're intent on turning a joke into a debate, marital surname change signifies clear respect for the man and intent for the marriage, in-line with hypergamous female nature. This is shown with traditional marriages being more succesful. Given that men face a majority of the financial risks with family courts heavily favoring women and women initiating a majority of divorces, the disrespect a woman needs to obstinately choose to keep their own surname makes it come as no surprise that marital…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 01:14 AM
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Don't forget.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 10:50 PM
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Nothing screams "I love you" like hedging your bet of lifelong commitment with government intervention.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 10:43 PM
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I prefer utilizing the female rationalization hamster myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 09:41 PM
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https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S016748701630277X#b9010 Sexual economics theory analyzes the onset of heterosexual sex as a marketplace deal in which the woman is the seller and the man is the buyer, with the price paid in nonsexual resources. We extend that theory to analyze same-gender contests in that marketplace, and to elaborate the idea that what the woman sells is not just sex but exclusive access to her sexual charms. Women compete on sex appeal and on the promise of ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 06:57 PM
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Quit being like a total woman and getting obsessed with me because I'm mean to you. I know I'm dark triad, but sheesh, I'm taken lady.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 05:49 PM
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If you call your incessant hand-waving debate, more power to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 05:10 PM
0

I just enjoy pointing out the perceived self-importance of someone to not only mention but also unblock a previously blocked user to get their final word in. Additionally, the extreme defensiveness and attempts to belittle sans the evidence you always demand reveal the truth in my prior comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 05:02 PM
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Probably an alt? I told you I was an alt before you blocked me when I called you out on bad faith argumentation. It's perfectly clear to everyone that a certain self-perception of intelligence and infallibility prompts someone to delve deeper and deeper into the minutia to devolve a debate into little more than a semantic dispute, all done in order to be convinced of one's own infallibility and mental superiority. If one has actual debating skills, one would surely be able to make a coherent arg…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 04:50 PM
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Inb4 pedantry asking for exact words and quotes. GL.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 04:21 PM
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Help me understand. OP wants people, who have gotten burned for revealing their insecurities and are hesitant to open up, to reveal those very insecurities ... but now to strangers on the internet? Interesting. Well thought out and empathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 04:08 PM
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These guys need to put on their big boy pants and start making decisions like adults. Also, never commit to women who've had casual sex. Those should be forever plates.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 12:07 PM
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Cognitive dissonance. It's crazy that people can convince themselves that sexual history shouldn't matter in dating... an interpersonal relationship whose distinguishing quality is sexual exclusivity. It's like hiring for a job and not caring at all about work experience. Or applying to college without your high school grades/SAT scores. Absolute insanity. At least these people are kind enough to reveal how low value they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 08:25 PM
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If women thought... PPD would be a better place. FTFY
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 01:06 AM
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You ignored the part about women slut shaming, which was the point of the dialogue. Besides you're equating no relationship with shaming/liking/respecting, I see no reason to apply such a value judgement. Relationships are effort, and, if the end result can be achieved with no effort, I don't know why a human would put in extra effort as some sort kind of martyrdom. The second sort of contest among women involves reputational competitionand manipulation. It is a long-familiar observation that wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 05:33 PM
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And thus proving that men like sluts? still, it remains in the best interest of each individual woman toenforce the high cartel price by pressuring other women to maintain it,such as by shaming women who offer low-price sex. I don't know what backwards logic you're using to interpret an individual woman having sex earlier as indicative of her perception of other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 05:13 PM
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So, you decide to take qualms with the methodology of this analysis and not the above assertion that has no basis in any data? Is this your alt?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 05:04 PM
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Sure, it's not concrete, but it's far more potent than the argument "in my experience", which is what all the women here are doing. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S016748701630277X#b9010 Women constantly slut-shame as a method of intragender competition for romantic partners. This is very concrete. There is no evidence that men widely slut shame more than women. Sans evidence to the contraire, I'm confident who has the weaker argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 05:02 PM
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Here's the data to support your claim. https://www.brandwatch.com/blog/react-will-twitter-ever-free-misogynistic-abuse/ I get blocked when I point out how stupid and nonfactual these women's arguments are.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 04:51 PM
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Untrue. https://www.brandwatch.com/blog/react-will-twitter-ever-free-misogynistic-abuse/
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 04:40 PM
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But you didn't even address my point? You vaguely sidestepped it and didn't compare the women to the men. Bye anyway, your shallow arguments will be unmissed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 04:40 AM
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So, your argument is because a singular female comedian had more success on a single show, all of three female comedians listed are as touted as comedians as the men listed? That's a laughably hollow argument. Just Google top comedians, and most of the results the women you mentioned don't even place near the top. General consensus proves you wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 04:36 AM
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Your argument is wrong on every level Elaborate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 04:22 AM
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So, you agreed with me on the stand up point, and now, that I've conceded that they're good comedians, you disagree with me on the stand up point? I still don't believe they're on the level of the men listed, so it's of little import.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 04:18 AM
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Again, we're talking about comedians "on the level" of those that OP listed. The women you listed have no where near the level of status as the men in the original question. We're chasing red herrings.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 04:16 AM
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Sure, and I agree they're fantastic comedians overall, but all that doesn't matter to OP's question, which is what we're answering. All this is listing vaguely related, but not "on the level", comedians that are women, which is a red herring.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 04:11 AM
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That's not where they received acclaim, nor does anyone genuinely care about their standup. When one thinks "stand-up", one doesn't think of Tina Fey, Amy Poehler, or Mindy. For those individuals, their most famous work by far is in TV. Comparing the people you've mentioned to the people OP mentioned, when he used the words "on the level" is not an apt comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 03:56 AM
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I think it's pretty clear that the OP is focusing on stand-up, which is a completely different ball game from specializing in writing or acting.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 03:49 AM
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Because humor is about taking risk and saying things that are counter to social accepted norms, possibly leading to rejection and ostracization. Women tend to conform to societal standards, as historically and biologically, they have relied on men and the provisions of society to survive the vulnerability of pregnancy, birth, and child-rearing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 03:16 AM
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First, women were not "historically oppressed and disenfranchised". Women were and have always been a protected class that has been provided for by men and society at large. Men have always been viewed as disposable, as evidenced by conscription, innumerable deaths in war, and "women and children" first policies. This is further evidenced in countless research that shows a "women are wonderful" effect. The majority of men were only afforded additional rights for at most, roughly 100 years in sur…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 03:09 AM
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Yeah, no. The voting patterns of women since the suffrage movement have been identical throughout the Western world: women vote for bigger governments, that provide more entitlements. In the United States, 10 years after women started voting, the government had doubled in size. And since then, women have always voted for bigger, more powerful political platforms with more benefits. A big government orchestrates the wealth redistribution from men to women, for two reasons. The first being that go…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 12:29 AM
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Women like men with moral integrity and high standards for self and others. Virginity can show that, but most times, male virginity is just a reflection of incompetence and unattractiveness. Further, many women aren't virgins, and so, a male virgin, not only will be troublesome for fulfilling her sexual desires, but also serves as a moral reminder of her own past decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 11:50 PM
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BETA BUX
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 11:07 PM
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the other is dry dick. That's a neat way of framing "existential validation and worthiness". And, sure, ignore the excess male mortality that has historically far far outweighed death during childbirth.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 08:49 PM
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Oh no. Historically, 80% of women reproduced while only 40% of men. At least, they got to reproduce and their existence was validated. That's like telling a starving person that the person who died from food poisoning had it worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 08:38 PM
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It sounds like someone needs to brush up on the history of slave impressment and the confederacy's usage of slaves during war time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 07:21 PM
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Sounds like someone hasn't heard of slave impressment and the confederacy's usage of slaves during war time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 07:17 PM
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While the slave owners were being carted off to war to die to protect the slaves! Great analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 07:10 PM
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I'm glad my dad hit me. I was being a little bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 07:03 PM
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Yes because most men also had the right to vote, get education, owned property, and didn't work tremendously harder throughout all of human history... Most men had it infinitely worse than all women throughout all of history. There was a small proportion of men who had all the stuff you're mentioning. I'm not going to listen to your historical revisionism to push your feminist ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 06:53 PM
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"Oppressed" by being provided food and clothes by men and protected, so they weren't forced to fight to the death in human conflict. How oppressed the poor women were throughout history. Women had it so much worse than most men. I understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 06:46 PM
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Yes, this is what happened. Women were "oppressed" and put into their position by the evil men throughout most of written history. There's no way their situation was due to the lack of technological innovations that allowed women to overcome the burden of their reproductive systems and pregnancy or the lack of giant federal governments to subsidize the male role for women to be "unoppressed".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 06:33 PM
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let people live the way they want. After eschewing merit and creating government entities and quotas to assist certain groups to "live the way they want", of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 06:22 PM
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I prefer to complain when I get what I want.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 05:49 PM
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This is called contempt.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 04:56 PM
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I'm not "redefining" the 10 point scale. You're applying the 10 point scale to a graph that doesn't depict the 10 point scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 04:36 PM
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First, I'm not going to use the 10 point scale as that muddies the water too much. Let's stick with 7 buckets. Second, the data is inflated by assigning the numerical value that always gives the upper bound (ie: assigning a 1/10 rating to a smallest bucket would give the illusion of a 10th percentile man when it's really all the men from the 0th to 10th percentile). So we'll take the average percentile within each to paint the most accurate picture. Men at .5/7 or 1.5/7 account for 58%. Men at 2…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 04:28 PM
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Because bandwagon fallacy duh. Be a sheep.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 04:02 PM
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A) Make me (men's data isn't filtered against old women) B) lol no. Women rated 42% men as higher than 30th percentile (5 divided by 7 buckets).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 03:33 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/ot4qzd/what_the_okcupid_data_really_says/ You're acting as if I have a horse in this race.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 12:28 PM
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Try correcting the okCupid messaging data for "real" ratings; it tells the opposite story.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 12:04 PM
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What proof will be adequate to overcome the massive confirmation bias you continually demonstrate? And, if your defense of '80% of men being unattractive' being irrelevant is due to the current rates of singledom and sexlessness, at what point do those rates become relevant to you? 40% sexless/single? 50%? As it stands, both sexlessness and singledom are increasing every year, owed largely to changing gender dynamics that over-emphasize attractiveness in mate choice by women and decrease the lev…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 11:09 AM
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Which users used the first person pronouns, I/me/my/myself/mine the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 03:36 AM
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How are you determining what is important?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 02:58 AM
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LOL. No. Sex differences in Conscientiousness are also confined to just some of its components https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3251566/
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 01:41 AM
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Men and women appear to differ little on either specific aspects of Conscientiousness (encompassing such qualities as diligence, self-discipline, orderliness, and goal-orientation) or the subdimensions it comprises. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2031866/
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 01:28 AM
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I think you'd have to opt for competitive eating or soapboxing in this case.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 01:22 AM
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That's a value judgement, and ignoring the statement below. "Is it a good thing? Maybe in the short run, you get a better school certificate," said the OECD's education director, Andreas Schleicher. "In the long run, the world is going to penalise you because the labour market doesn't pay you for your school marks, it pays you for what you can do." Compliance and good behavior are negatively correlated with success as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 01:18 AM
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https://www.researchgate.net/publication/325033477\_Equalitarianism\_A\_Source\_of\_Liberal\_Bias
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 01:08 AM
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That is the most egregiously dishonest copy and paste job I have ever seen. Right below: When it comes to teachers' marking, the study says there is a consistent pattern of girls' work being "marked up". It suggests that "teachers hold stereotypical ideas about boys' and girls' academic strengths and weaknesses". Teachers are said to reward "organisational skills, good behaviour and compliance" rather than objectively marking pupils' work. The findings suggested that teachers needed to be aware …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 01:05 AM
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Did you read the first link before typing?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 12:54 AM
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No, it's not conflicting. Men are seen more likely than women as brilliant because more of them are, in fact, brilliant. No one is "underestimating" anyone; this isn't about subjective misinterpretation. Women receive a leg up because of this obvious difference; people's desire for fairness prompts unfair preferential treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 12:50 AM
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Men and women unfortunately both underestimate women’s intelligence. Men are perceived as the default when it comes to an intelligent human. So women need to work incredibly hard to battle that stereotype and get through med school, residency, and work that debt off while potentially not being taken as seriously. Not true. Women receive higher marks throughout school despite no evidence of superior work and receive more inflated positive feedback in the workplace and on the same essays.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 12:31 AM
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And at the same time we're supposed to view promiscuity as somehow equivalent between the sexes. 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 12:25 AM
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Your modus operandi is exactly the same in this thread too. Impressively consistent. Like I said, we can part ways. Bye. What's there left to do but slink away with your tail in between your legs when called out on making zero logical assertions and arguing in bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 10:41 PM
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Where's the refutation of my claim? You wanted me to point out your hypocrisy and now you're pointing claiming ad hom? Honey, character attack is the manner in which you point out hypocrisy. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/qrhykj/daily\_community\_chat\_megathread/hkcifzj/?context=3
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 10:29 PM
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Right, but I'm not the one that is so convinced of her intellect that she joins an argument simply to try and attack a position to make herself feel superior. Yeah, try acting like I'm not cognizant of you writing #/# on the last comment chain and then mentioning your GPA to illustrate how smart and great you are after someone took the obvious bait. How do you have the gall to actually sit there and pretend you're arguing in good faith to convince me of your position instead of your brilliant in…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 10:22 PM
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You're failing to understand how debate works. It's not my job to cater to her royal highness as she sits entrenched in a position, where I try the Sisyphean effort to move her from her convictions, all while it merely takes is her feigning ignorance to be self-assured in her point. It matters not if you're unconvinced of my claim. I have supplied evidence that generally supports what I believe, while you have done nothing to convince me of yours. The burden of proof is now on you. To me, it see…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 09:34 PM
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Using a bad faith argument to attack another argument as bad faith is hypocritical. I'm honestly unsure if you're being intentionally daft at this point or genuinely are blind to your own hypocrisy. And again, no one is arguing what you are suggesting. Go back and re-read my comments, re-read them three times if you have to. Conflating my position to some black-and-white depiction of "men are self-sacrificing and women are self-serving" is either intellectually shallow at best or malicious at wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 09:04 PM
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Do really need my help to locate the straw-manning of the opposing position and rationalizing of your own position? They don’t exist in vacuums. Evidenced with this vacuous "axiom" with no supporting evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 08:42 PM
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That's an extremely hypocritical take. Examining personality trait differences between men and women, in the study that found a mere 10-24% overlap in personality, comes the following passage: In univariate terms, the largest differences between the sexes werefound in Sensitivity, Warmth, and Apprehension (higher in females), andEmotional stability, Dominance, Rule-consciousness, and Vigilance(higher in males). Two of the pairs are directly related to emotional responses to the environment relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 07:34 PM
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I agree with what OP is suggesting, not the specifics. The feminine moral prerogative is codified to be self-serving (or for their kids) and aimed at self-preservation to ensure the survival of their genes. Thus, the increasing hegemony of the feminine, which is largely due to the aforementioned male self-sacrifice and female self-interest perpetuated on a social level, will slowly lead to the deterioration of western societies.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 07:16 PM
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Probably from all the circle-jerking.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 06:43 PM
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men did things becuase of both social pressure and sense of duty Men did things because natural selection mandated it. "Sense of duty" or "honor" is a moralistic explanation for a natural occurring phenomenon. A man who self-sacrifices is useful for the survival of a woman's progeny through provisioning resources or protecting her. If a woman were to self-sacrifice herself instead, it would be the detriment to the children, and, thus the genes. I agree with some of your points in a general sense…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 05:19 PM
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Why the half? I also consider smoking and snorting cocaine as leaving a sacrifice to god in my temple.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 04:56 PM
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5 Break a bone: get your weak normie brittle bones out of here Tattoo/piercing: defiling the beautiful temple that god blessed you with? hell no
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 04:49 PM
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Did you want to start a circle jerk? Insert 'slight hint of superiority while expressing contempt for whining' here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 04:16 PM
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The scientific rigor of the availability heuristic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 12:16 PM
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"Even if the top 10% of american households hold 70% of the wealth, it doesn't stop most people from subsisting." I can't for the life of me understand what point you think you are making.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 12:06 PM
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Do you not have mirrors in your home?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 11:42 AM
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The things people feel comfortable sharing with internet strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 11:04 AM
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Is it the rejection? Or is it being constantly lied to and gaslit about what a man needs to do in order to find love and how women are? All while either being shamed and rejected? Or, on the other foot, while experiencing success due to your impersonal, shallow traits like height? Maybe it's maybelline.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 10:37 AM
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Ma'am this is a Wendy's.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 01:57 AM
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Posts like this remind me just how naively black-and-white most people see things they disagree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 10:55 PM
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Hopefully you're paying a really good accountant. But, congrats.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 09:28 PM
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How ever do you fit through doors with that big head of yours?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 07:53 PM
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Well if he's the type to bitch about it on reddit instead of calling her out or "nexting", I'd say he deserves the disrespect.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 07:42 PM
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OK I'll try. Thanks for the advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:50 PM
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Because obesity is defined as a BMI of above 30. With muscle mass being denser than fat and men having higher bone density and content, men tend to be heavier for the same height. Woops, I mean. hurrr durr, Men Bad. Women Good.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:41 PM
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Ma'am this is a Wendy's.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 05:34 PM
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She was an excellent writer. What? That bitch had to make a whole ass encyclopedia to write what any other human could send through a pager.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 05:00 PM
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You're right. My blatant misogyny is endearing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:40 PM
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I've got a shite personality and I still get laid. Checkmate, femcels.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:38 PM
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Who hurt you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:11 PM
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And I'm not a blue-pilled woman. Sure man, we all believe you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:01 PM
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Losing all hope was freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 01:55 PM
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Answer the question. Go to the article if you want data.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 12:45 PM
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3 women top 100 vs. over the tens of 1000s of top 100 men ever. Enticing argument. Explain why women perform worse in countries where there are more women players. Stop avoiding the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 12:42 PM
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To the women of PPD, which one are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 12:33 PM
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No, you're wrong. You have no idea how to interpret studies. Your article took a sample of men and women of the roughly the same ELO and had them play an opposite-sex player virtually after possible exposure to literature that could harm their self-esteem, at a sample size of ~40 per sex. The idea that you feel this has practical weight to explain the overall trend of a population is like taking a study that used men and women of the same height and using that as refutation of my claim that men …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 11:46 AM
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You clearly didn't read my article, as there are two studies within that did a comparative analysis on male and female performance, as a function of time and female participation. You completely ignored my 2nd paragraph, because your article bears no merit on that analysis. Further, occurrence of a stereotype threat doesn't refute whether the stereotype is true. Address why men out-compete women significantly more-so in countries where there are more women players and the stereotype threat is sm…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 10:31 AM
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there's just less competing because of lack of interest No. Wrong. Male chess players are better. Women have less interest because playing chess is self-selective, and when they perform worse, they stop playing. When controlling for "female interest" by looking at countries with higher or lower female participation rates in chess, you find that with increasing participation, the skill gap widens between men and women, ie: women perform worse. This trend suggests in countries with little female i…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 10:11 AM
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Yeah, from whatever clown world you all originate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 09:04 AM
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REEEEEEE
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:30 AM
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You can say something about how normal men don't actually care about committing to high-n women. That gaslighting is probably the only thing that triggers me here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:28 AM
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And? That doesn't contradict my point about marriage having no benefit. This sounds very false dilemma-ey.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:14 AM
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Then the man shouldn't get married, obviously. Marriage is a traditional institution; there's no benefit for a man to enter a binding contract with a woman who plans on continuing a professional career where her name will be relevant past childbirth. It's contradictory.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:11 AM
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You've gotta give me some of whatever the fuck you are on.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:04 AM
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'Like so many others. I had become a slave to the IKEA nesting instinct.'
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 01:28 AM
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I concur. Excellent point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 01:11 AM
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"I only wear makeup for myself" - Some Queen I'm using this sentiment for my mustache. Sure, I look more handsome clean shaven or with stubble, but... I still look good with a mustache.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 01:00 AM
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Wow. You're right. Nick Offerman got so handsome with a beard that he turned into Tom Selleck with stubble.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 12:52 AM
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Nick Offerman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 12:48 AM
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Tom Selleck. Square jaws work with Staches.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 12:39 AM
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Don't you "oh no" me. Only mustaches or stubble work with my face shape. Or clean shaven.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 12:36 AM
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I've got a banger 'stache going on right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 12:25 AM
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Sure, I do like me some nicely shaped boobs. *high five*
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 12:12 AM
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No, we'd need to address the societal changes due to the feminist movement and clear bias of the government that allow women to act independently from men. Hence, the "mutualistic partnership". Marriage existed in part to protect women from financial insecurity concurrent with aging, pregnancy, and becoming less attractive to men. Women are no longer financially insecure due to alimony/child support/work preference. Thus, marriage is vestigial, and reversing the laws of 60s would be akin to putt…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 12:10 AM
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Sure, hot women are correlative with better stats, but breast size doesn't correlate with hotness. Average sized breasts are usually preferred. Obesity is a clear counter-point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 12:04 AM
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If a woman ever says this, she should be out. The amount of disrespect a man is subjecting himself to if she won't even start enter the marriage with this act of goodwill. A man is sacrificing his financial security, and she can't even sacrifice her last name. How does he expect her to make any sacrifices for his benefit when shit gets tough?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 11:59 PM
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Or get rid of marriage entirely as it's a remnant from before no-fault divorces were a thing and women actually formed a mutualistic partnership.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 11:27 PM
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I don't agree with your point at all. I have absolutely no Tit size preference, and height is correlative with traits beyond the sexual. Success, income, IQ, leadership, etc. It's not a good comparison
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 11:16 PM
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No, your analogy is completely off-the-mark because the "height" preference is a generally observable phenomenon visible with a majority of the female sex, while breast-size is subjective and preference varies individually. If you want to stay within "sexual" then a better analogy would be with a pretty face, so a dad can have cute kids. However, it's obvious the reason you chose "big-breasts" was to paint the height preference as something particularly ridiculous. You have a clear horse in this…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 11:05 PM
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And you can use any number of other analogies to provide the counter-logic. Imagine a dad saying he only gets with women without genetic diseases so his children don't have genetic diseases. Imagine a dad saying he only gets with intelligent women so his children are intelligent. Reproductive choices are done, if there are options, to optimize the capacity of the next generation (the children) to survive to reproduce, especially for women. That's how biology works. Men's height or masculinized f…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 10:53 PM
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I'm not the one arguing with an obvious troll comment. LMAO. Ya ol' bat.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 09:06 PM
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It was implicit. I'm sorry you needed to be handheld, given the obvious context of the thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 09:03 PM
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Yes, all the women who screech at me are also secretly in love with me too. My avatar and misogyny are completely irresistible.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 08:32 PM
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Just, thank you for explaining what was going on. I didn't realize the girl who gave me the gluck gluck 9000 outside of her dorm didn't want to do it, even though she unbuckled my pants by herself. I mean, now that she refuses to do the same public shows of affection with her Urkel-looking milquetoast boyfriend, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 08:21 PM
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Jeez. This makes me feel so bad. I'm so unempathetic. Those women I finger-banged on the dance floor or who blew me in the bathroom while whispering how wet they were were actually not enjoying the experience. I guess you learn something new every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 08:01 PM
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Wow. That's kinda how all the girls justify cheating on their hubbies with me. I'm such a good guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 07:03 PM
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The duality of man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 06:14 PM
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Quit larping.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 12:50 PM
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Not my fault your mom likes me so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 12:22 PM
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Haha Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4usE2RePqo
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 12:06 PM
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First
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 12:05 PM
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I appreciate you. I wish women would appreciate that the most "sexist" (I would say "realistic") guys aren't the virgins or nice guys, it's the guys that actually have options with women. The other dudes are overly idealistic, but we have the halo and horn effects going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 11:54 AM
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I'll address your second point first. Yes, it's a slippery slope, but I believe in "epistocracy"; that's why I'm generally against the 19th amendment. Aristotle makes some strong points against democracy (and women), with its lethargic bureaucracy and tyranny of the majority, and, not without evidence, Athens was useless against the monarchy of Philip/Alexander and the Macedonians and one of the reasons for Macedonian supremacy. To set the record straight, even though I come off as "sexist", I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 11:50 AM
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Vanessa Hudgens, high school musical. She looked like my first 2 girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 03:52 AM
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But I can communicate... with this dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 02:55 AM
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I checked. 8 times.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 02:45 AM
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Yes, I do like talking about myself. I'm just like the women here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 02:43 AM
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Fine. Fuck. I'll get a blackberry sour. Go grab something yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 02:06 AM
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THAT DOES IT. *throws keyboard* Bahaha. I'm not angry. I just like fighting and arguing, that's why I'm here. Go look at my pics, I'm chill, normally, promise.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 02:02 AM
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I literally don't care about your tangent, that's why I didn't respond to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 01:53 AM
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Surely, you aren't being serious? We're talking about "net contribution". If you spend $200 and earn $100, you lose money; that's what's happening here. And, I don't "feel" anything. You're projecting the rationalization hamster onto me. Go read the first link I supplied if you want to continue the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 01:48 AM
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That's not how arguments work. It's only "false" if you supply evidence proving it to be "false". I have data that shows in the only western country willing to conduct such research, men are the sole group that has a net positive contribution to the government's finances. You could make the claim that it's an over generalization, but, given the other gender trends shown, I think it's a fair generalization to make. And, I don't see how WHY women pay lower taxes is relevant to the discussion. Edit…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 01:35 AM
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Leave me alone. We already established you can't argue beyond lying through your teeth and ad hominem.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 01:25 AM
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Stop calling me a friendless incel For the purge only. You're probably ugly and fat. Let me flex rule 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 01:16 AM
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And? It's broadly true that men pay the lion's share of taxes. Do you need an air-tight double-blind study of all western democracies to infer that the New Zealand pattern will hold?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 01:15 AM
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And if a group votes in a way that leads to the destruction of democracy, then it's counterproductive for that group to participate in said democracy. But you wouldn't understand that. Because you're a woman, and you shouldn't vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 01:11 AM
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Self-improvement is masturbation. Now self-destruction...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 12:54 AM
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Nazism is much closer to what you believe regarding entitlements than the beliefs held in the above quote.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 12:38 AM
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“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progres…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 12:27 AM
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Mb. Mb. Just post your girl's OF so I can directly give her my money instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 11:55 PM
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The voting patterns of women since the suffrage movement have been identical throughout the Western world: women vote for bigger governments, that provide more entitlements. In the United States, 10 years after women started voting, the government had doubled in size. And since then, women have always voted for bigger, more powerful political platforms with more benefits. A big government orchestrates the wealth redistribution from men to women, for two reasons. The first being that government s…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 11:40 PM
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Whichever mod responded to my subreddit message a week ago and anonymously gave me a passive-aggressive lecture, I want to let you know that you're a spineless coward. That is all.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 10:55 PM
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You could lobotomize yourself. Sadly, that would leave yourself only slightly more aware than the women here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 10:02 PM
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And could it have been me? The world will never know.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 09:27 PM
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Something like he just joined and he feels disgusted and disappointed by all the flagrant misogyny, misandry, and ideology, and how we should be a place of debate or whatever and it might not just be the purge. u/E-2-butene
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 09:11 PM
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Sorry. Could you speak up? It's kind of quiet from that mountain of sanctimony you're speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 08:49 PM
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The 19th amendment was a mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 08:05 PM
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I wish to one day be as great as the men whose wives I'm balls deep in. Every insemination is merely my tribute to their overwhelming masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 07:29 PM
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Does this thing come with an off button?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 07:16 PM
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As a non-incel, incels are much more realistic than the women are. And, at least incels have a reasonable excuse for being misguided.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 06:10 PM
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Well seeing as what women think doesn't matter, the answer is obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 03:53 PM
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u/E-2-butene is a king.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 10:30 AM
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Hopefully they're the personality altering ones. (jk)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 10:17 AM
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Was there anything good? This: also it seems that I've just slept in the first day of purge.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 10:09 AM
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Stop calling me a friendless incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 09:56 AM
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You sure act like you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 03:15 AM
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Tell the PPD women to stop building such a strong case for it then.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 03:09 AM
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I mean, have you read the illiad? That damn bitch Helen.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:20 AM
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This. A cheating woman gives the beta man the luxury of raising an alpha chad baby. He becomes shielded from the crushing despair of seeing his own biological child turn into an incel. God bless women, for so selflessly protecting the egos of their man.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:12 AM
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The emotional labor of women being energy vampires.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 09:10 PM
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All genders are equal. But some genders are more equal than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 08:26 PM
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This is what it makes me imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 08:06 PM
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I guess we're done here because you have no actual argument beyond ad hominem and rank dishonesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 02:46 PM
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Communist and marxist ideologies generally support abortion You're conflating any abortion control measure with being anti-abortion. It's quite ridiculous how you are so dishonestly pushing policies that I would deem far too liberal as being of my camp. They're much, much, much closer to your camp. But keep floundering, and downvoting, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 02:41 PM
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And the RSR under Lenin was the first country to allow abortion in all cases in the modern era. Communist and marxist ideologies generally support abortion. Stop discussing topics beyond your purview.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 02:21 PM
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Lol, like calling women's healthcare and human rights murder isn't an appeal to emotion Sure, but fortunately, I was very precise in my speech and avoided the legal term "murder" to describe killing a fetus. And framing the issue as "women's healthcare and human rights"? Ok. A basic recognition of morality on this is maybe the best proxy for IQ that exists. And there's no shortage of middling intellectuals entrenched in their ideology due to narcissism and overconfidence. Ever hear of the suppor…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 02:00 PM
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Argumentum ad populum. Appeal to emotion. Slippery slope. Ad hominem. And, again, apples and oranges. Good night. I'll sleep well knowing I can support my argument without relying on a cocktail of fallacies.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 05:04 AM
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You don't need a real, moral reason to convince yourself either. It's not too uncommon for adults to still be primarily motivated by seeking pleasure and avoiding pain. And, I already knew all the arguments were just rationalizations that followed the emotional stance of "I want to be able to have abortions." It's not surprising.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 04:16 AM
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That's not really an argument, but you're free to hold that position. I just don't think there's a solid foundation to support it. It's funny really, because I was pro-abortion for most of my life. But, upon reflection, I found expediency and indulgence to be unconvincing reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 04:01 AM
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The answer to that question has absolutely no weighing on the morality of the individual behavior in a vacuum. If you had to choose between killing 100 pregnant women or 100 senile old men, would that be a difficult decision for most people to make? In this case, if one were to answer the latter, the answer would make sense, but, that doesn't permit going on to kill 100 senile old men. Besides you're poisoning the well.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 03:47 AM
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What do you mean "I didn't even acknowledge that"? I acknowledged the Schiavo case immediately. It was a terrible comparison; anyone who is not knee-deep in ideology can delineate between killing a fetus that has an 8-9/10 (and yes I saw you took the lower bound of survival) chance to become an independent child and killing a 3-years dependent woman with an almost zero chance of recovery. As I said, apples and oranges. Further, I'm not entertaining your terrible arguments because they're petitio…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 03:41 AM
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So that's what you're going to do, just straight up equivocate to prove a point? No, you can't just kill someone who is comatose. A persistent vegetative state is defined as 3 months comatose in the US, and the suitability for withdrawing food and water is dependent on the chance of recovery. Comparing an 80% chance of development into independence (which I'll assume is correct despite the fact you've demonstrated dishonesty) to the minimal chance of recovery of a certain specific population of …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 03:01 AM
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An estimated 20% of pregnancies will result in miscarriage but you're saying definitively that the fetus would become an independent person? So you're a fortune teller? And there's a nonzero chance of coma patients becoming wholly dependent, does that mean you can kill anyone as soon as they become comatose? What a terrible argument. And I'm still waiting for the definition of "life" and my sources; the facts I was promised, not "right to life" and beliefs. the reality is that no one has to prov…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 02:44 AM
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I've made it very clear I want actual scientific literature or sources. You're defining the arbitrary, morally-determined "right to life" not what constitutes actual life. Further, that legal precedent is apples and oranges. The fetus will become independent in a foreseeable amount of time; that is not the case for a braindead patient.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 02:19 AM
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Bye. I bet it's uncomfortable realizing who is really the one guilty of being "indoctrinated" by the beliefs of others.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 02:08 AM
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Are there any studies? Data? Info? Anything? Definitions? "Scientific consensus" means nothing. I'm talking about facts. Not beliefs held by the broader scientific community. I want to be shown that fetus does not fall under the definition of 'life'.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 02:03 AM
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You don't even have a defense of your own. Your entire argument is something someone else told you; that's why you're asking for sources from another user. How could you possibly know what my reasoning is? If you think there's a belief or cutoff that is allowing me to define a fetus as a human life, let me know.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 01:56 AM
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Sure, I'll be eagerly awaiting what clearly won't be a rationalization based around arbitrary cutoffs and beliefs to define a fetus as not a human life.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 01:47 AM
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I agree, the only basis for laws should be facts, not beliefs. Science has determined 100% (not largely, as your argument is semantics) that a fetus is a human life. So laws should reflect that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 01:38 AM
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indoctrinated to think of a fetus as a baby God forbid people think of the fetus as a human life. They clearly must be indoctrinated. There's no biological rationale whatsoever for this determination. The more rational, moral people are the ones who decide that they should be able to kill the fetus definitely not because it's expedient but, rather, purely as a service to the child. If only something could have been done to prevent the situation in the first place... all those damn virgin pregnan…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 01:23 AM
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Now you're being dishonest. I was on a financial assistance plan when I was briefly unemployed. It was a kaiser permanente plan with low deductible, and I could go to specialists whenever. $3 a month cost. But, I guess we can continue arguing, since you're determined to prove you're right.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 08:41 PM
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All except 12 of the states adopted medicaid expansion. Your argument might make sense if you ignore the financial assistance of that robust health insurance marketplace, obamacare notwithstanding. Your knowledge is substandard.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 08:31 PM
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Cool. And can one buy health insurance with a boyfriend's money? And the 401k? That's like saying a corporation gives you the benefit of eventually not working, which the boyfriend currently is offering you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 08:22 PM
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That's myopic. The number isn't the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 07:07 PM
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A bit of the benefit is correlative, but a large enough portion is causative to be relevant. Being partnered generally causes men to behave more pro-socially, because they have a reason to invest in societal outcomes and they no longer take unnecessary and unproductive risks to secure their genetic legacy. Longitudinal studies confirm this: Work using longitudinal datasets strengthens the case for a causal relationship. These data allow researchers to follow the same individuals over time to see…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 06:57 PM
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This is why Q4W are useless. Women who thought their responses might be read said they had had an average of 2.6 sexual partners, compared with 3.4 partners for those who thought their answers were anonymous. But those who thought they would be caught out by the polygraph reported an average of 4.4 partners. In contrast, men’s answers did not vary significantly. Those attached to the lie-detector reported an average of 4.0 partners compared with 3.7 for men who thought their answers would be rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 06:36 PM
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A simp prisoner's dilemma
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 05:30 PM
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Petitio principii.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 05:19 PM
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By the rationalization hamster. You can observe it in the wild, on this very subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 04:18 PM
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I didn't misunderstand anything. You're saying "financial independence" which is really just financial dependence on an external corporation instead of a boyfriend. It's really not surprising why someone would want to get money doing whatever they want instead of the monotony of being a corporate wage slave or whatever meaningless job they have 9/10 times. Sure, there's risk, but the choice shows a difference in values.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 03:22 PM
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I don’t understand the logic behind being a stay at home gf— give up any semblance of financial independence for a boyfriend? You mean the financial independence where you have to work 40+ hours a week as a desk jockey instead? I don't understand either.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 03:13 PM
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Silly billy. Women don't cheat. It's men's actions that force women to have 'entanglements'.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 02:33 PM
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And then I can counter with my anecdotes where all the women I've hooked up with have given me their number, wanted to see me again, and tried to make a relationship happen. And unfortunately for you, this may have the unintended consequence of one of us coming off as lacking a certain 'je ne sais quoi'.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 02:29 PM
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That's irrelevant to my point. You're painting a scene where the whims of society just naturally flowed towards the situation we're at. That no one is culpable. In reality, women have systematically voted for larger government platforms, preferences, and social safety nets to protect them from the potential loss of a man, thus usurping that man's role. Following the 19th amendment, the per capita federal spending doubled and the size of the state government doubled in 10 years. Ever since then, …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 10:19 AM
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Think of it as a Rorschach test.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 02:12 AM
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I'm a straight dude. I'm just extremely "nuanced". I may or may not be guilty of both.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 02:07 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXNCcWPUkBA i would be surprised if a straight guy could stare at a photo of his dick and cum lol. I don't think Aphrodite herself could have this effect on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 01:50 AM
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I don't believe there's a correlation between sexuality and narcissism.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 01:42 AM
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Do you have to be gay to do this?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 01:40 AM
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Sure, you could describe marriage as the woman hedging a bet of lifelong commitment. And, with the divorce laws of the 60s, she's free to leave with her winnings whenever it would be most beneficial.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 01:14 AM
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Irrespective of marital quality, why would one willfully involve a biased 3rd party to "arbitrate" the contract of their lifelong partnership, something that two consenting adults could do on their ownsome? The only viable explanation is for the kids, not the relationship of the adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 12:23 AM
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That's tinder in 2015. It's even worse now with the features they added.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 11:48 PM
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https://www2.census.gov/programs-surveys/demo/tables/families/2017/chldsu17.pdf 60%.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 11:07 PM
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Just like crazy people insist they're not crazy. Quit begging the question. The fact that you think I follow you around because I talked to you one time about high n speaks more about your own perceived self importance and that you are beyond reproach. Look at my history lady, I pretty much am disagreeable with everyone here.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 09:43 PM
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Bias isn't a binary. Crafting a "positive" descriptor of promiscuous women, motivated by painting your friends in a good light, is worlds away from bias just from "what I personally think".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 09:33 PM
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Preach. Don't let the women shame you into kowtowing. They're trying to relieve the uncomfortable, (and very real) negative social impact of their detrimental and life-altering choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 09:25 PM
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My close friends who are slutty fit this description. So this description is practically useless due to bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 08:58 PM
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"Banking on welfare" "barely functional adults" You're crafting an absurd, hyperbolic situation to what end? To paint yourself a fool? Educational services, alimony, divorce settlements, child support, paid maternity leave, public sector employ, shelters, feminist programs, campaigns, lobbies, and laws are all functions of the government that primarily benefits women. Further, though such research would never be pursued in the states, in New Zealand men paid for the government services they used…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 08:34 PM
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It could be that the more traditional the marriage the more likely she is to have sex she doesn’t want. It doesn’t necessarily mean housework is a turn off FTFY. Your statement is a wild conjecture that has no supportive evidence other than your imagination and ideology. Regardless, the thought experiment is of little import since we are examining this action from the perspective of what benefits the man not the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 08:14 PM
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Too much passivity. In actuality, the government, generous social safety nets, and female-preferential treatment in education and the workplace, under the guise of "equality", has usurped the role that men traditionally filled in society. Women are not independent or individualistic; they are reliant on the overwhelming female preference and big daddy government to subsidize what men had offered throughout all of history.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 07:36 PM
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Apples and Oranges. What I assume you're referring in my argument as a "strawman" is not even remotely comparable to your actual strawman. Yours: You mean I contradicted your narrative that polygamy was entirely invented and propagated by women, and that men had no agency or feee will whatsoever? You completely made up an argument that I didn't even remotely suggest, nor do I believe in. Mine: suggesting women have had zero practical agency and have perpetually been at the whims of big, bad men …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 05:42 PM
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Because the self-importance to soapbox and verbosely regurgitate your obviously tightly held emotional beliefs instead of succinctly expressing a concept of comparable length should be addressed before engaging in a debate. It's not my job to parse some incoherent babble, trying desperately to find an argument within some tortuous rant. Also, your strawman didn't go unnoticed.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 05:12 PM
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There's no chance I read all of that. But, I can see the glaring irony of suggesting women have had zero practical agency and have perpetually been at the whims of big, bad men making all the decisions, while simultaneously asserting your impartiality to dictate a comparison between male and female infidelity. By extending your values to cheating, you should obviously view male infidelity as worse. However, you don't, which implies that there is some recognition that female infidelity is worse a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 03:30 PM
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This is possibly the most pedantic exchange I have ever seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 03:19 PM
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I haven't tagged you as anything because I don't know who you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 03:02 PM
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That's verifiably false and holds sexist implications, demeaning the different values and interests that many women have held and continue to hold if you look at job distribution in the most egalitarian of countries. Arguments such as these hold traditionally masculine values in hegemony, while hiding the peccant misogyny under the guise of egalitarianism.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 02:58 PM
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Immediately compartmentalizing yourself and others as replaceable romantic options is generally detrimental to developing true emotional connection and intimacy. Shared experiences free from expectations of direction and method are much more beneficial to your life and romantic outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 01:56 PM
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Losing online dating is really the greatest booster in terms of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 01:35 PM
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I never made any claim. I'm not the person with whom you were originally arguing; I'm merely an onlooker. Can you not fathom how someone separate would see your position as absurd? I'm not really going to engage in this conversation, but arguing that men as a class would push for polygamy, despite leaving the overwhelming majority of men without wives, shows a blatant misunderstanding of history and gender conflict. Further, this line of argument highlights the in-group bias you believe men have…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 01:27 PM
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strength and mental fortitude Replace this with "mental effort and neurosis" and I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 01:08 PM
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4273893/ Following up on the widely publicized claim that by doing more housework, husbands in more egalitarian marriages got more sex, we sought to investigate the links between men’s participation in housework and sexual frequency using nationally representative data. Our findings suggest the importance of gender display for sexual frequency in heterosexual marriage: couples where men participate more in core tasks—work typically done by women—repor…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 01:03 PM
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No, you're wrong because bad argument. All it takes is to take a gander at history to discover that polygyny was a bedrock of a multitude of disconnected civilizations, while polyandry was barely even existent. Understanding the biological principles that allowed this societal discrepancy to occur illuminates why cheating by one sex is worse than another. Or you can delve into economic theory and apply it to sexual relationships... It honestly hurts my brain reading the ideology rife within this…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 12:03 PM
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And, now, you're being dishonest, but this was bound to occur due to your assertion of a false position. The source directly "backs me up", all you've done is point out how you don't agree the tendencies of New Zealand apply to the rest of the world, unsurprisingly, without providing any further support (or source, perhaps) to explain why you can hold such a position. Let's be honest, someone chose to handwaive the source away, not because of any "proof", but because it doesn't cater to their wr…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 11:47 AM
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Overall, solid first point. However, I will contend that youth is not "more immutable" than height. Not everyone is tall, but everyone is young at one point. The argument could be framed that most women have a period of time when they meet their beauty standards, while the much fewer men who meet their own beauty standards will continue to do so for a much longer period time.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 03:22 AM
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Yes, you're right. I'm wrong. Thanks for correcting my belief.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 03:00 AM
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should those people be denied marriage licenses? I never said this. People are free to do whatever they want. Doesn't mean the reason for marriage is purposeful. Kids notwithstanding, there's no benefit to me, a man, for marriage over lifetime cohabitation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 02:12 AM
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Says the partisan family courts and the liberalization of divorce laws in the 60s that ripped out any other rhyme or reason to get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 01:48 AM
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And this is why I engage with you as the best girl on my main.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 01:44 AM
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That's misuse of the word hypocrisy. Hypocrisy refers to differential expectations despite overlap of self and other in a categorical group. It's not hypocritical for a father to have different expectations for himself and his child. He is not a "child". Nor is it hypocritical for the coach to have different expectations for himself and the player. He is not a "player". The same is true of dating. If a man believes women should do X, no hypocrisy occurs; he is not a woman. It's only hypocritical…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 01:32 AM
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40% of men have reproduced. Where would the average man fall?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 01:03 AM
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If it's too hard for you to understand how negative the perception of the phrase "toxic masculinity" is, we can have a discussion about your "toxic personality". You see, I'm not calling all aspects of your personality toxic; I'm using this word in good faith to point out only the negative aspects of your personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 12:36 AM
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It's hypocritical to act as though you genuinely care about healthy masculinity and leading men to positivity, while simultaneously diminishing the impact and obscuring the prevalence of the overtly negative societal view of masculinity we have in the western world. Plus, you're using the term "toxic masculinity", as if completely ignorant to the influence that such a word has on perception of masculinity in totality. Your specific words and behavior have a net negative effect on men in our soci…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 12:30 AM
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That’s not what Motte and Bailey is. That's exactly what it is. Doubling down on the gaslighting won't work, especially when each critically thinking man here has observed women and popular media outlets lambasting every aspect of masculinity (the bailey) only to go on and disingenuously portray the critique as only of the harmful aspects (the motte).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 12:19 AM
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Well no one is saying masculinity is toxic. But rather the pursuit of some archaic version of masculinity can be harmful to men themselves. That's the Motte-and-bailey defense. ​ Same goes with toxic feminity Toxic masculinity is mainstream. No one uses the term toxic femininity outside of those either trying to point out the hypocrisy of using the masculine term or those pre-emptively trying to assuage dissenters via false impartiality.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 12:09 AM
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Sure. The general trend is unfavorable. But, I'm answering the question as me, not as the typical man. My individual experience, traits, and preferences allow me to view such a risk as sufficiently low.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 11:03 PM
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A surrogate that meets the qualifications would be hard ask, especially if one has the goal of having multiple children. It would be much more easier to re-enter the dating market place. Compromising on one's genetic legacy and the joy of raising a biological child with its biological mother to avoid hurt feelings is too steep a cost, and one that is likely to foster resentment in some direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 10:44 PM
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Yes. The purpose of marriage is kids. If no kids, no point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 10:23 PM
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Is it fair for women to have a preference for bearded men? while not being bearded themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 10:21 PM
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I'm merely making the claim that it isn't clear what we are. To assert that we are definitely NOT monogamous is as untrue as claiming we definitely ARE monogamous. There is variance within individual humans: some are definitely not monogamous and some are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 10:03 PM
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I don't have a desire to discuss this topic with someone who begins a conversation in bad faith and then ignores questioning on pointing out my flair, but you can feel free to peruse the following sources. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23670886/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29355104/ https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/709672?journalCode=jop And come to your own conclusions within your own head.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 09:59 PM
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Apples and Oranges. I made my point clear from the beginning of my argument. Your use of the words "gross generalization" and "ironic" are meant to diminish the validity of my position and to establish yourself as "mentally superior". My entire argument is a character one. You're the individual that is pushing incessantly that you were "merely attacking my position" and making a "light hearted attempt at humor" when any individual arguing in good faith wouldn't begin a conversation with a cheap …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 09:48 PM
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From your first source, there's clear support of pair bonding: "The human species has evolved to make commitments between males and females in regards to raising their offspring, so this is a bond," said Jane Lancaster, an evolutionary anthropologist at the University of New Mexico. "However that bond can fit into all kinds of marriage patterns – polygyny, single parenthood, monogamy." The human species is somewhat unique amongst mammals in that fathers do invest in raising children . "We do kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 09:39 PM
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If so, that's a poor attempt at humor, indicative of ineffective socialization. But if you're not horrendously socially unaware, sure, by all means, keep speaking in bad faith, feigning ignorance of deriding someone to come off mentally superior, which still pervades your new comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 09:27 PM
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I'm pointing out your hypocrisy for comedic effect. Besides, I'm not going to entertain a "burden of proof" fallacy. This is your point to prove, not mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 09:12 PM
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Clearly not. Or: You felt the need to flex your (apparently currently malfunctioning) mental superiority. By commenting on the "irony" and "gross generalization" you hoped to diminish the truth of my statement by focusing on my character, but to do so, you had to ignore the word "tend". Bad Faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 09:09 PM
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Dawg literally 9th grade biology just google it. Not really a huge claim. Claiming anything other than would be a big claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 09:03 PM
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"tend". Read before commenting. Not my fault you're fixating on something that you're interpreting as an attack on your ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 08:58 PM
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I asked for a source, because there are none! It's a completely fallacious claim to push your clear ideological slant. Science has yet to definitively pronounce on whether humans are naturally monogamous (lifelong male-female breeding pair) or polygamous(single male breeding with more than one female). The human male body provides ambiguous clues to the answer but the balance of evidence indicates that we are biologically inclined towards monogamy while retaining an urge to “sleep around” On pai…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 08:55 PM
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We are not monogamous by nature, nor do we mate for life. Nor do we pair bond. That's quite the claim. Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 08:49 PM
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Twas a mere joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 08:48 PM
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If men were hypergamous, then the men occupying the upper echelon would be perpetually asexual. The discrepancies between male and female distributions due to greater male variability would lead to dysgenic mating outcomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 08:46 PM
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Sounds like they suffer from NPD or autism.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 08:38 PM
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Men, attractive people, and the affluent (especially stronger men) also tend to lean right. edit: incorrect assertion.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 07:41 PM
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Good genes + bad genes average out to meh.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 07:27 PM
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The issue is that you're committing a questionable cause fallacy, attributing a man's projection of a "not good boyfriend material" to casual sex success, rather than understanding that this behavior screens for a specific cluster of willing women who are judging other factors, which are infinitely more important to the outcome. Displaying "good boyfriend material" will not magically cause the same woman to not desire the same man sexually. That is, unless we're describing "good boyfriend materi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 07:16 PM
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Sociology is when one makes up pseudo-intellectual jargon to rationalize their illogical and ideological positions that are otherwise untenable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 06:48 PM
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superincongruent Username checks out. The RP is about reapplying biological forces, obfuscated by modern society and propaganda, to modern day relationships and sexual interactions. The fact that you even mention "sexually liberated people banging just for fun, no strings attached" shows that you have no understanding of the underlying motivations for such behavior, and to portray yourself as the arbitrator of RP philosophy, comes off beyond hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 06:37 PM
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batshit crazy overshares everything This is what I was referencing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 04:43 PM
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😉🤐
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 04:38 PM
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No. That's what you guys are for.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 04:37 PM
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Aka all men with options and functional prefrontal cortices.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 04:27 PM
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And let the soapboxing begin.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 03:54 PM
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Calm down. Boyo. Check your projections. I'm sorry you're not a handsome, 6'3" man like myself. You can characterize people in all types of ways if it makes you feel better about your clearly overly emotional beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 03:29 PM
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Then... that would defeat the impetus of men outting themselves in the first place. It's a moot point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 03:14 PM
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I'm not following. You seem to have forgotten the part where you have to have sex with all the men that you don't see as LTR material.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 03:09 PM
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Sure, if women wanted to shoot themselves in the foot for future relationships. But women know this and lie. 90%+ of the time, women use casual sex as a hail Mary to get commitment, and, when it doesn't work out, they slink back to convincing themselves they "just wanted to have fun" and "he is unfit for a relationship". Motte-and-bailey style.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 03:01 PM
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All Q4W are weird. As if if we will get anything remotely insightful beyond discovering social posturing and retroactive rationalization of horrible decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 02:36 PM
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Ad hominem. Appeal to emotion.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 02:13 PM
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Non sequitur. Bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 02:10 PM
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Great. Shaming tactics, a latch ditch effort to win an argument when you can't actually provide anything of merit besides anecdotal stories about your own daughter. I'm sorry that every topic is so intimately linked with your sense of identity and ego that you can't help but drone on about your marriage, your kids, your life as some kind of illuminator to the societal unknown.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 02:05 PM
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No. You're listing off a bunch of things that an individual, who you are emotionally attached to, is offering, and somehow inferring that that is indicative of what most women offer. And, all you've listed is something a close friendship, a roommate, and a hookup can provide. Great.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 02:00 PM
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No, you joined the debate of your own free-will. Next time keep your mouth closed if you have no argument. And don't think for a second I'm not seeing you strawman my argument from most modern women, to all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 01:48 PM
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I wanted a list of what MOST MODERN women offer. I'm not saying that there aren't spectacular women out there and that no women are worth marrying.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 01:47 PM
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Then speak as such. And actually provide support that buttresses that point. If you desire to refute my statement about most modern women not offering much of value, then you should provide the alternative, showing that a typical modern woman offers more to a man in a relationship than he can easily achieve on his own, with friends, or through hookups, instead of wasting time with words that in no way conflict with my statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 01:24 PM
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You're saying "or" as if in direct opposition to my comments, which your statements are not. My statement and your statements can both be true, and I'd say they both are in many cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 01:17 PM
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Thanks for affirming my point that men offer more in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 01:08 PM
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Yes, yes, trite axioms abound. Where is the list? Surely, you're not deflecting and pushing an emotionally self-relevant point you can't actually defend when pressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 01:04 PM
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Still not providing a source? Doubling down and rambling about meaningless asides like "Who is we", "never debated", "ad hominem", and lastly a meaningless (and again source-less) appeal to emotion, to avoid the embarrassment of admitting how you acted a fool and a hypocrite? Take you own advice: "check your facts". And, you're misusing ad hominem; ad hominem shifts the conversation to focus on character, when my focus is clearly on your lack of sourcing. You're making yourself look worse and wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 01:00 PM
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So they are clearly providing something of value to those men. And we went over this: Living fleshlights Roughly average and below men marry women for sex, falling in "love" as a natural consequence of the biological reaction to limited reproductive options, recognizing that exchange of resources and investing in life-long commitment are the only options for garnering sex. Surely if my position is "not at all true" and "women are clearly providing something", you'd be able to easily list a multi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 12:47 PM
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It's all MOST MODERN women can provide of VALUE to a man. You forgot a couple of words there.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 12:31 PM
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As long as you're a human and not an NPC, you cannot act like male promiscuity is equivalent to female promiscuity. No need for additional qualifiers.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 12:30 PM
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Unsurprising, incels craft their entire life around how having sex equates to finding companionship and intimacy, that just after this one tremendous hurdle, everything will work out. The unfortunate reality is that most modern women haven't learned to provide any value to a man other than as a living fleshlight, so, once many guys have sex, this fact stares them in the face. And, reveals how much time, energy, and emotions they wasted.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 12:01 PM
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We all knew that this would happen. You push an absolutely fallacious claim as self-evident, have absolutely no support, and then nitpick any literature that shows how you're wrong. Notice all you've done is shifted the argument towards how invalid my source is. Unsurprisingly, misinformed idealogues never attempt to find their own sources. Why? Because you made an claim that is so incorrect, based on your emotions and prejudice that you have to stumble around, saying stupid shit like "women wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 11:10 AM
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Holy moly. Those redditors demolished you for suggesting that pitbull was playing. ROFL. That's like what happens when I suggest IQ is predictive and useful here, the cretins crawl out of the woodwork to mess my shit up. God, I'm sorry the IQ test didn't inform you that you were a 99th percentile genius your mom thought you were. Stop downvoting me and upvoting everyone who says IQ is useless; it won't make you any smarter.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 03:32 AM
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The only way for you to possibly to benefit from this question is if the men post their pictures as well, and you get looksmatched to know where your league is. Men who have options would never care for being "given a chance", and men who are in a desert may be happy to get a sip of water, unless they're stubborn, resentful, and self-defeating.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 01:54 AM
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No, outside of Steph, the men are clearly more attractive relative to their gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 01:47 AM
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All those women are 6's at best, and at their peak. But sure, keep complaining about the lot you were given instead of optimizing your strategy, and see how that works out for you. Prediction: cats, lots of em.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 01:40 AM
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Look at how you never mentioned what you'll do FOR him. This is why women have such trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 01:36 AM
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They don't understand. They understand what they think men want. Do you think the man multiple women desire commits to a woman based on her physical attractiveness? Why do you think Steph Curry is still with his wife despite being a superstar who could have anyone hotter? How about Roger Federer? Connor Mcgregor?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 01:27 AM
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What other options do you have, really? Cry foul and whine about the injustice of your life? But really, beta buxx it up or shut the fuck up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 01:19 AM
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And yet women act no differently from incels, shaking their fists at society and making no attempt at understanding what would improve their chances to outcompete the other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 01:11 AM
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The only way to refute this is through exposing my looks. Are you that curious, Stralotta? I assure you, I'm a lot more handsome than you expect.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 01:02 AM
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Women have a tough time getting what they want. And whose fault is that? With the abundance of stubborn, modern women who refuse to cater to a man in any manner other than sexually, it's straightforward for women to set themselves apart, look like a unicorn, and snag a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 12:55 AM
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I don't care what you want to believe. I'm expressing what I've seen. You're demonstrating my point when you are emotionally affected by my negative words. You imply that you need me tell you white lies, compliment you, and smother you in positive approval so that you, yourself find value in your own role. Do you think men need that? Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 12:43 AM
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Slippery slope. Women won't magically stop having babies if government subsidies disappear. All this is is a liquidation of our societal "retirement account" to emotionally appeal to childish morals at the highest resolution and "have it all", even when it's impossible to simultaneously ensure societal longevity and not sacrifice the comfort of a few individuals. Like we do in parenting to teach hard lessons and make our kids stronger.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 12:37 AM
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The mistake was that women‘s roles and spheres were seen as less than mens. No. The mistake is that women have no spine and feel that their role is less valuable than men's. Don't blame society; women make up half of society, and because of them making most consumer choices (regarding men and products), they dictate the market direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 12:24 AM
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The only topic worth discussing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 12:17 AM
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When women say "feminine", they're talking about men with some distinctly masculine features, that may not fit the mold of traditionally masculine. Think Timothee Chalamet. They aren't talking about liking actually feminine looking men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 11:59 PM
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That's what contempt means. If you're not trying to date them, they're not worth your time considering. If you mean why deride them, then, it's a response to the incessant gaslighting that high-n women (and other women) do to convince men that dating high-n women is normal and good, while framing any refusal to as "insecurity" or "misogyny". No one cares about low sexual market value individuals until they start acting entitled.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 11:47 PM
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No one is doubting that men are pathetic for trying to commit to easy lays. What men are doubting is if your rampant overuse of anecdotes and personal opinions speaks any truth about women in general and, further, isn't just an attempt at "impression management" to portray yourself in a certain light and defend your ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 11:26 PM
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"He didn't dump me". "I dumped him".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 11:15 PM
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You're a fool, and not worth talking to.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 11:05 PM
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And there is the same animosity for simps. People who give away their value freely are usually viewed with contempt, because it is the most surefire way to see that that someone is low value.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 11:02 PM
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Explain why you see a problem with a purpose of biology, and did not find issue with a purpose of living child free. Notice that I have never asserted that the poster SHOULD have children, merely that her obsession with defending and pushing child free demonstrated a neurosis and insecurity regarding her decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 10:53 PM
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It's laughable to think feminism isn't intimately tied to "the people benefiting most from this state of affairs". Do you think Billionaire George Soros donates to feminist causes out of good will? That the push towards women working and supporting themselves isn't driven by a goal to double the work force and stagnate wages, lowering overhead and increasing profits? It's no fault other than women for being so easily shepherded into believing that they are oppressed and the only solution is work…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 10:25 PM
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I find it hard to believe that anyone is speaking in absolutes literally, and not just figuratively to drive a point home. Would you be willing to provide a handful of users who are asserting that western women as a class sloot it up on OF, and that not even the simpiest of men or worst of jobs would want them?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 10:06 PM
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And then we start adding all sorts of qualifiers to our words to be "inclusive" and "tolerant" to the point where our sentences are 5 pages long. Or, we could do what most people do and understand that there are differences, but decide to speak with the bare minimum words, implying *NAWALT or NAMALT or not all situations are like that but most are, for sake of ease, like most of our conversations regarding typical men, women, and insert topic here do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 10:00 PM
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Being on OnlyFans is more of a moral issue, which might not even be an issue in the circles of content producers. Are you arguing that murder isn't a moral issue? Besides, I was never going to take a conversation seriously when the OPs entire point was to construct a strawman so ridiculous that no one could argue against its ridiculousness.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 09:53 PM
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Do I need to know someone who committed murder to know that murdering someone would be a bad decision? Or to know that murders happen? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 09:33 PM
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Because, as I said, "communication and discussion on the topic becomes irrelevant." If everyone has different definitions of value, it's like speaking different languages; there's no common ground to interact upon. As humans, the accepted definition of value should encapsulate what most would view as valuable, so that the most people can interact with each other and reach some conclusion. That's how communication works.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 09:25 PM
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The apparent importance of women's "stringent" body standards is because only women and children get sympathy when they whine about stuff, despite every conceivable metric showing a higher standard for men. And, yes, this is a microcosm for every woman's issue in the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 09:06 PM
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The problem with red pillers (and people on PPD in general) is y’all can’t seem to understand not everyone measures happiness or success by whatever arbitrary standards the manosphere has set. And the problem with over-nuanced, middling intellectuals is that they're so focused on the noise, such as exceptional outliers and anecdotes, that they fail to establish a consistent measure of happiness or success, so communication and discussion on the topic becomes irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 08:00 PM
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No. You keep misusing a legal term "right" to describe some biological tendency. I understand that women by and large are the selectors and have reproduced at roughly double the rate as men, and 17x as much at one point in history. But no one had "rights" before the introduction of a structure that can enforce those "rights". You're not even disagreeing with me on a substantive level. This whole conversation is a semantic dispute where you disagree with my words and would rather substitute your …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 07:51 PM
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You keep abusing the word "right". The fact that even 20% didn't have kids means it's not a "right".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 07:38 PM
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Nah. It's probably because you're "insecure".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 07:17 PM
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But apparently the dudes dating e-strippers are the cream of the crop. It's a fact you know. The high n women here also tell me how handsome and fantastic and big cocked their husband/boyfriend are, so it must be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 07:15 PM
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I guess so. But this "right" is due to the existence of a generous social support system, female preference in the workplace/education, and a unidirectional eugenics program that allows bottom barrel women to do build-a-bear with the genetics of their children. In a world that didn't prop up every failing of women, what would happen? We all know these single mothers and their children would have died, likely by starvation or from lack of protection. Lucky I guess they get to substitute in daddy …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 07:03 PM
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What does your comment have anything to do with women pricing themselves out of the market? Variability/comparison to men/bottlenecks and other jargon has little relevance to women having traits that directly harm their and their offspring's mating success due to the resultant lack of a father figure.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 06:34 PM
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You should just not talk about yourself period. But, we all know that's a hard ask for any of the women of PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 06:16 PM
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if you can afford it, it’s better than the resentment that builds with someone you’re not attracted to. Not better for the kids or society, the former of which has to suffer through increasing resentment and worsened outcomes at life without a father figure due to the superiority complex of a mother, and the latter of which has to suffer with kids raised under the detrimental dogma of women who are too stubbornly and mistakenly self-assured to realize they are genetic deadends and should remain …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 06:05 PM
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It's your fault if you're not disney princess level.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 05:43 PM
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It's a myopic focus on arbitrary values filling a person's actions/beliefs: a complete reversal of Machiavelli's suggestion that the "end justifies the means", to instead follow a perverse moral framework, where even if the means result in greater suffering and hardship, so long as a person believes they are acting within the morals of "fairness", "equality", "diversity", etc., they are doing "good".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 05:23 PM
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Are you talking about: "Average Subscriber Age: Based on current trends the most likely to spend money and subscribe to a content creator are males aged 35-44. I will admit my source could be wrong, but I'm really unsure as to what your statistic says and whether I should accept it as valid. "average subscriber age" would naturally gravitate towards to that middle age range due to how averaging the lowest age (high school/college) and every other age would work. However, their description implie…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 05:01 PM
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I am not sure how to effectively deescalate this conflict. Probably something like admitting you're autistic. I'd recommend putting that on your flair because there is a fine line between maliciousness and incompetence that gets further obscured by the internet. The advice on your comment "I’m always interested in why people are so upset by childfree individuals. How does her position really impact you?" remains the same. Don't use words to group others in with a bunch of people who have similar…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 03:42 PM
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Maybe you are genuinely sorry. It doesn't really matter to me. And my opinion shouldn't matter to you. This exchange comes off as bad faith because you keep assigning me feelings that I don't have. You assumed I was so upset with my words. You assumed I cared about an individual making the choice to be child-free. You assumed I was part of a different group of people that thinks in a certain way. You keep boxing me into something, even in your apology. You're apologizing but never taking the tim…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 03:26 PM
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Bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 03:15 PM
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Because words suggesting I'm part of a group of people different from you - "why people", and then using emotionally instructive language like "so upset" and "really impact you" is being interested in "my perspective". Please, you were clear as day in what you were suggesting in your first comment; don't slink back into your motte after getting called out on the bailey. You're just sorry that I called you out on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 03:07 PM
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I'm sure it's interesting, because you've completely misinterpreted my "care". My care is not about her being child-free, she can do fuck-all with her vagina, my care is that this clearly neurotic individual is pushing specific data to rationalize her own decisions and increase social validation of a viewpoint that is little more than defeatist nihilism. Seeing that she has an objective concerned with the perception of her position, I am well within my rights to critique that and offer others an…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 02:57 PM
1

Still better looking than most PPD users.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 02:24 PM
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No. What these things are revealing is how a large chunk of the population is inherently incompatible with monogamy. This is good. It allows women and men of high sociosexuality to reveal their true, genetically pre-disposed colors before someone of lesser sociosexuality commits to them and is, unsurprising, cheated on.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 02:17 PM
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Sure. And that's why you unironically expressed the need to reply after saying "toodles".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 02:08 PM
2

If that's the case then you needn't be threatened by women having access to this information. Sure. You shouldn't feel threatened when someone reveals how nihilistic and aimless your position is. Toodles! ✌🏽 Yeah, and the same to your genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 02:04 PM
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The point is that the biological defeatist neurosis that surrounds MGTOW is the same that surrounds your child-free movement. Trying to devolve the argument into the weeds of what is directly comparable to MGTOW, when I simply said MGTOW is more comparable to child free than a man preaching the value of a virgin wife, shows bad faith. Should? Sounds pushy to me. This whole rant of yours where you whine about my posts which you could easily simply ignore if you see no value is the definition of s…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 01:57 PM
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And? I do not have this inclination, sorry. This buttresses my point while detracting from yours. it displays your behavior as unique to you as an individual and showcases your narcissistic ignorance of the general "woman", who biologically should desire to pass on their genes, by pushing a solipsistic "information campaign" onto others. Your last paragraph is just irrelevant to the point I made. If you want to focus on asides, you might as well say how MGTOW and child free are incomparable beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 01:43 PM
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Stella Barey's interview on the iced coffee hour. ​ Her point still stands. Obviously, if I were to make up a hypothetical group to perfectly illustrate a point it should. As an example, in defense of marrying high-n women, "if you were to meet a high n-woman who was a great wife, loved you fully, thought you were the most handsome guy, never would cheated on you, and was perfect in every way (smart, talented, funny), would you marry her?" See how creating a fictional group makes the point?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 01:28 PM
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Apples and Oranges. You're willfully ignoring the "holding [of] a position that is ultimately detrimental to your biological proclivity". Your position would be more similar to MGTOW disavowing all women because they MIGHT get burned, leaving themselves alone and without children.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 01:23 PM
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Nor is anybody "forcing" you to come on here and drone on about the benefits of a child-free life. But, the cognitive dissonance of holding a position that is ultimately detrimental to your biological proclivity can be described as "forcing" you to constantly talk about it, label your username as it, and subscribe to communities that validate your position, all by the constant push of neurosis.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 01:18 PM
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https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2375926 With the exception of the age group between 45-59 (a 15 year span) years old, women cost more to the state than the tax they provide. In contrast, men generate more tax revenue than they cost between 23 and 65 (a 43 year span). In the brief period in which women generate more or as much tax money than they consume, men out-score them by at least 3 times. "Also you should really check your facts." The incorrectness of this statement sugg…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 01:13 PM
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By what metrics did they capture infidelity rates? Regardless, arguing your child free position is basically a moot point, when your stance is inherently dysgenic and forces those with similar ideological susceptibility to self-select out of the gene pool
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 12:58 PM
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You're speaking about men becoming obsolete while unaware that men overwhelmingly pay for the government programs that women use as a substitute for the services men had provided. Interesting. And unsurprising.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 12:48 PM
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You do realize that most consumers of only fans are poor high school or college aged kids that use the services as a substitute for intimacy? The emotionally inflamed language discredits your comment, which is compounded by the focus on a hypothetical, infinitesimally small proportion of OF consumers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 12:42 PM
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But men are becoming obsolete as men in general are no longer needed. Other than to pay for and support the system that directly allows the parasitic women to believe in and speak such vacuous utterances.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 12:31 PM
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This is adult humor. You'll understand in a few years. I believe it's passed your bedtime.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 12:17 AM
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Well, because that would reveal them as the LARPers they are. Good for you for at least having a third leg to stand on.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 09:51 PM
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Yep, you're just like the women of ppd. Showboating your significant other as a form of impression management.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 09:48 PM
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Jealous of something that hasn't felt the joy of turning their dick into a helicopter? Don't make me laugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 09:21 PM
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Certain groups of people do have lower iq because of their genetics. Ashkenazi Jews have a mutation that predisposes them to much greater intelligence but also risk of neurodegenerative diseases. It's retarded to believe evolution stopped skin deep and neck down. Don't be a wuss, state the politically incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 08:48 PM
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I learned that women will prop up their husband using impression management techniques to wow strangers on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 07:44 PM
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Out of the ppd women's league/10
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 04:45 PM
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For starters, I said women of ppd. The same women who genuinely spend hours talking about a subject but instead of listening, further entrench themselves in their ideologies and poor choices. And, no, you don't ask anyone such a context-dependent question. What if he looks like Brad pitt? What if she is looking around seemingly interested in talking to someone? What if she smiles at him briefly? How are you, a woman, supposed to help this man without knowing a damn thing more so than him just gr…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 02:28 PM
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Get married to equal or higher paid woman. A. She stops working as much, so you have to step up and make more. B. She continues working, and then divorces you. Mmm. Point. Hazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 04:45 PM
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Weird, I'm pretty sure you divorced your first husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 04:15 PM
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Because the female orgasm is less associated with male action than is pushed forth, often to blame the man rather than the woman. The orgasm exists as a biological function to a. Incentivize better mating behavior and b. Assist in fertilization. As such, the most important factors are an emotional connection (often as a function of relationship length) to ensure a present father figure and male attractiveness to ensure quality genetics for the offspring. If a man is able to achieve these two fac…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 07:56 PM
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The female commenters are idiots? Color me surprised. And here I thought their positions indicated logical and value driven decision making and not backwards emotionally-baked rationalizations, which would permeate their life choices. /S
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 10:35 PM
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Haven't you learned by now not to bother yourself with what women "think"? You might as well shake up a magic eight ball if you want an answer with comparable nuance, insight, and consistency.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 10:23 PM
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That's childish. If I stand on a bridge over the freeway and drop rocks from above, even if I don't intend to kill anyone, I still have to deal with the prison sentence that comes with murder. I took the risk. Regardless, if I were to accept your immature attempt to absolve yourself of responsibility, there's a further distinction between letting something die and killing it. You don't get to crush something's skull and tear off its limbs one by one in the name of "bodily autonomy", hiding the o…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 10:22 AM
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The difference is you made a conscious and willfull decision to bring that life into the world. If you take the violin player moral dilemma (where he is hooked up to you for survival) and instead added the clause that you caused his situation of dependence AND you hooked yourself up in the first place, you reveal the reality of the situation, that's not just bodily autonomy, abortion is being a shitty, selfish person.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 09:18 AM
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When will the ladies learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 06:57 PM
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Like bitch, i bring you into my house and feed you, and you want to make the rules? Sounds like my ex. Yeet.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 06:40 PM
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Tell that to the 30% marriage rates of the current age. And, how much a wife earns and her career are one of the largest predictors of divorce. So the options are marrying someone who you'll lose more to, but with a much smaller chance of divorce, or marry someone who you'll lose less to, but with a much higher chance of divorce. Or do the third and most intelligent thing, don't get married. What's with you people and implying false dilemmas.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 03:41 PM
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I'm young looking, but mid/late 20s. Last time I went to vote, I got interviewed by the local news station and they asked me, "how does it feel to vote for the first time?" So I'm no stranger to being treated younger than I am. I also am sarcastic/goofy at times and others am intensely serious. How you act and the boundaries you put in place serve as much more potent anchors to how others treat you than how young/old you look.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 01:59 PM
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If you have an average dick at least, it's more important to be 1) emotionally connected with your partner and 2) be sexually attractive for your partner to orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 01:23 PM
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I'd rather it fix your back, which somehow goes straight down to your ankles.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 03:02 AM
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And what will the hospital do? Help fix pancake asses?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 02:58 AM
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ss or it didn't happen
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 02:28 AM
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Pancake lookin ass
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 02:23 AM
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Let's go Brandon!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 02:20 AM
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Let me guess... someone stole your sweetroll?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 01:59 AM
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All data suggest otherwise, and anyone who logically understands how habitual behavior works knows as well. Odds ratio of cheating on a partner per past sexual partner is 1.13. For women that have had 20+ past sexual partners, the chance of infidelity is 50%. For women that have had 1 past sexual partner, the chance is at 10%. Only children believe that past behavior doesn't predict future behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 12:30 AM
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No different from what women do. Pretend to be the perfect girl, love all your hobbies, wear makeup, etc. so you build an attachment and have more trouble leaving when she reveals what she truly is, a con-artist. And, yes, I'm bitter. This happened too often when I was young and dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 11:55 PM
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A fucking fruit fly is too intelligent for this place.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 11:05 PM
1

So intelligence is selected against for women? Makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 11:00 PM
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You smart and intelligent woman. All the other smart and intelligent liberal women should demonstrate their superior smartness and intelligence by making the smart and intelligent decision of not having kids. You smart and intelligent women. Keep being smart and intelligent.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 10:56 PM
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Except it's irrational to be "looking for" two things that interfere with each other. I can have the goal of becoming rich and the goal of living my life to the fullest through travel, etc. My lavish spending instead of saving will make it much more difficult to become rich. It's ok if you want to find people to just have sex with, but the more people you have sex with the harder it'll be to feel satisfied with one person FOREVER. The idea that we can "have it all" is childish. We have to make s…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 10:28 PM
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😑 ... That's the point. It's a worthless question because individual's answers will always drift towards the same result regardless of their reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 05:33 PM
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Lotus eaters
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 05:12 PM
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Honest question. Do you expect other women to tacitly admit that their value diminishes over time and then for them to broadcast to strangers that they make decisions based on fear of being alone/not being good enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 04:26 PM
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Pics?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 04:23 PM
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No. Women's sexual selection has always been a balance of hypergamy and commitment. Women needed to balance the desire for a strong partner and genetics with someone who will actually stick around to raise the children and provide for her. We're seeing what happens when the balance of choice is removed from the equation, whereby women are focused purely on one-side of attraction, hypergamy ("love"), and no longer see the consequences of poor mate choices (where the partner leaves) due to the int…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 03:50 PM
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What women don't understand is that some men genuinely don't like to be "open" and vulnerable with their emotions. Women think "I feel better when I talk about my emotions therefore men must also feel better when they talk about their emotions." No, a lot of men don't work like women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 03:27 PM
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It deters my "soft respectful boy", too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 03:16 PM
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What? All these you've mentioned are no different from how the Peacock's tail came about. These "luxurious" and "impractical" qualities require tremendous amount of energy, resources, and strong genetics. Only the most "fit" are able to handle them. Because only the best males can withstand the burden of the various standards you mentioned without dying or harming themselves, they serve as good indicators of fitness, and, therefore, survival of the female and her offspring. You can look more int…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 01:58 PM
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Of course, it's company policy never to imply ownership in the event of a dildo. We have to use the indefinite article, 'a dildo', never... your dildo.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 01:50 PM
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Of course it's creepy. It's legalized eugenics whereby the natural selection pressure that should be employed by both genders has been made unidirectional artificially.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 01:23 PM
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Come on buffin, you and I know full well this wench just attached the worst possible qualities to the incel and the best possible qualities to the thot to make her argument SEEM valid. I could just as easily say, "I'd rather have an incel, because I'd rather have a teen that is temporarily insecure due to his immaturity and who later grows into his confidence and understands women on a better level than a thot who is probably just some ugly, insecure girl that is sucking cock because she has dad…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 12:55 AM
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Just like a guy whose neuroticism forces him to write a giant block of his feelings/experiences/desires for help from unfiltered strangers with an easy decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 01:27 PM
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It's a symbolic representation of an abstract concept. The looseness regards the loose morals and loose selection process of these women; their vaginas are 'open' for anyone. Because most men are simultaneously repulsed by promiscuous women and don't have abundant sexual experience, the idea has been distilled to be more easily comprehensible and shareable, although lacking in truth. Edit: Downvoting won't change facts, loose vagina havers ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 01:09 PM
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Down. That's why we have greater male variability, because the best men will always be better than the best women to select for the best traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 02:29 AM
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Did they now? Did your grandma really tell you that? If so, I'm sorry about your childhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 02:03 AM
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No, women ruminate and crawl back when you breakup as if she never mattered, not when you make a big deal about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 09:35 PM
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Lol. Stupid take. You talk as if women have a collective experience that they can relive, knowing what their lives could have been 50 years ago when they're only 20.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 09:25 PM
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Rejecting materialism and saving my money.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 09:04 PM
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Well we've seen what women serving themselves amounts to for the past 50 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 09:02 PM
2

Trenbologne sandwiches or bust boys!!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 08:59 PM
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Less then the number these harlots kill through abortions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 07:56 PM
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Still no fat chicks Sorry ppd women, you're out of luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 07:48 PM
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Must be why so many betas try to change the world through whining in Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 07:46 PM
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Yes, please, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 05:57 PM
4

"I'm not crazy" - every crazy person
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 05:53 PM
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They are. But only for bottom tier men that have no ability to attract a partner otherwise. That's how I know the LARPers here are ugly and so are their husbands/boyfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 05:51 PM
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Yes. Obviously. If you're attractive you can finger bang hot chicks on the dance floor before getting your dick blown in the bathroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 05:38 PM
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"I don't care about the opinions/actions/feelings of men/trpers/incels/mgtowers" -- Women who "unironically" waste a couple hours every day discussing the opinions/actions/feelings of men/trpers/incels/mgtowers and willfully enter conversations to argue.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 04:14 PM
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You care enough to respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 04:06 PM
4

Misogyny now means criticizing anything that is sexual or regularly apparent in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 01:50 PM
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It's generally easier to feign niceness when one has no substance to their argument. Start being a bigger dick to them. If their dislike for you transcends their desire to look good via upvotes, they switch their tunes real quick.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 01:40 PM
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Do you believe there is a healthy consumption of pornography in general? That's like asking what's the healthy frequency of cocaine consumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 01:36 PM
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Could be possible. But I find that highly unlikely given the audience and content. It's too broad to be a porn argument, and it's aimed at women, not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 04:13 AM
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To me, it seems like you disagreed with a point she wasn't even making.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 04:06 AM
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LMAO. You're a woman and acting like women don't say shit to influence people and make themselves look good. Obviously, she'll say it's bad for men, but really what she means is "it makes it harder to find good men that are willing to date me". Don't act like you're too ignorant to read between the lines.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 04:00 AM
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That's the dumbest take I've heard. The point of not posting pictures is to increase women's collective bargaining power in the sexual marketplace to force men to invest more. You're basically looking at customers who are offered a free product and telling them to not take it. Like what? Think.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 03:42 AM
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Kinda based ngl; it's a microcosmic representation of the cartel like behaviour of female sexual strategy to maximize the "price" of a woman's valuable assets by lowering apparent supply.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 03:36 AM
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Said the person wasting time to respond in the first place. Next time, keep your mouth shut and bother someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 01:23 AM
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I'll be your friend. Homie.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 01:22 AM
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The most intelligent comeback you could think of was "no you" after making a comment about evidence with no evidence. And no, an iq of 70 isn't a "passing grade". I'm sorry you had to learn this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 01:12 AM
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Stupid, trite moralistic garbage. As if most women have personalities that are worth having to put up with for some meaningless sex. How about this. A man shouldn't have problem waiting for sex with a genuinely great woman. Problem is most women, even the utter trash on this subreddit, believe they are a genuinely great women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 01:03 AM
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I think you speaking serves as evidence for the invalidation of democracy as a useful system.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 12:47 AM
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That the mods suck? And the women are generally retarded?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 11:51 PM
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Birth control makes women less attractive to men. Why do you think men find women attractive? Do you think men can innately detect a woman's fertility? Yes, scientists studied the effects on chimpanzees, and male chimps would ignore the females on bc, and strippers on bc make less money.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 09:44 PM
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That's what I do when I don't care about things, I waste my time engaging and then follow that up with asserting that I for sure don't care, as most people that don't care do. Did I mention I don't care?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 09:37 PM
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Or all life choices are equally valid. Some morons here think that there isn't an optimal pathway to get to a desired result. Like, no, honey, you can't just slurp down cocks and think you're going to end up with the same quality marital result as if you had left room for Jesus.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 08:10 PM
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I'll take circular reasoning for 500 Alex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 02:51 PM
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Is that what you call focusing on personal anecdotes over all data that suggests otherwise, in regards to education, income, criminality, and future single motherhood, because of your own personal history? If that's what is logical, no wonder this sub is full of retards.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 11:38 PM
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I honestly think most of the women here are unhappy, miserable, and hate pretty much all men, even if they're in a relationship. Most of them are just posturing. From what I've seen, I think the few exceptions are simeta, cizim, maybe a few more.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 10:00 PM
1

The chemical makeup of a singular molecule? Ethanol vs. methyl (1R,2R,3S,5S)-3- (benzoyloxy)-8-methyl-8-azabicyclo[3.2.1] octane-2-carboxylate? Maybe I'm stupid. I don't understand at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 08:31 PM
2

What does it mean to portmanteau chemical makeups?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 08:21 PM
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Of course a man who finds value in a relationship with someone who unironically esteems "cf" would be a rational example on which to model the behaviors of all men. /S
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 06:25 PM
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F to all the dudes in a relationship that still believe in marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 06:05 PM
2

Did you have a point with your take of calling the concept of blm good? Is there a point to showcasing your 'intellectual' nuance regarding an inane, morally indisputable idea? Do you feel more far-reaching and thoughtful?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 04:30 PM
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The concept of black lives matter. What a moral complexity. Next they'll be suggesting no child should go without food, or women should have equal rights. These deep, riveting that are sure to serve a purpose other than to kafkatrap.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 03:54 PM
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Losing mine made me realize how otherwise useless most modern women are. Inb4 the useless, uninteresting ppd women triggered.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 03:41 PM
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Mambo no. 5. Chad express.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 03:32 PM
2

Probably caring enough about being downvoted to complain about it for validation from a bunch of internet losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 03:29 PM
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Yawn. Tell me someone made a valid argument for something you disagreed and you didn't know how to respond without telling me someone made a valid argument for something disagreed with and you didn't know how to respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 06:18 AM
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We’re the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place. We have no Great War. No Great Depression. Our Great War’s a spiritual war… our Great Depression is our lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 06:11 AM
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Women call me chaddly mcchadderson so much it barely registers as a compliment. It's so frustrating being constantly being reminded of my girthy 10" and my 233 iq. I wish they'd instead recognize my 10 plate overhead. Women are so shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 06:06 AM
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Because women have and will always control the social norms and discourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 05:59 AM
1

??? Bahaha. Do you not remember your comment had words that I could have been responding to? I cared about you spreading false truisms and saying no one cares if you have a standard without moralizing. You Kafka trapper. We done here. Happy Thanksgiving.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 05:47 AM
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You know full well that you're "nice" in rejecting men, not because you care about their feelings, but because you care about their perception of you. Don't pretend you're doing for any other reason than to make yourself comfortable. LOL. And you think I cared about my friend's comments? Quit projecting your own insecurities on me. Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 05:39 AM
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Wow. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 05:29 AM
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I also prefer to cover my ears and scream 'lalala' when I hear news that conflicts with my worldview.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 05:27 AM
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Why are you so uptight? It's because of women like yourself that get your panties up in a twist about sharing actual reasons for rejection that women, in general, believe things like men don't care about n-count. Honest feedback allows one to learn from the experience. Your dishonesty is more cruel in the long run. You're old enough to know better.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 05:19 AM
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Because we are friends? And we're honest with each other? You think this conversation would ever happen with a rando?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 05:12 AM
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Lol. Not true. One high n girl first said I was "weird" and then tried to convince me to start trying out casual sex with other women because I rejected her on our incompatible views on sex. Every single woman with a high n will care if she wants to date you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 05:08 AM
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What the fuck happened to this sub? Did the mods ban most of the intelligent red-pillers to give blue-pilled midwits a fighting chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 04:17 AM
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Let's be honest. If the paramedics were women, it wouldn't have happened. Thank you. Next time, just straight up say, "I am prejudiced and disdainful towards men. I am a misandrist." as the explanation for why you consider the behavior misogyny. Let's not waste anyone's time, ok?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 04:11 AM
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You do realize that this only serves to weaken your case, right? Your argument rests on the following structure. A. Misogyny is hatred, dislike of, mistrust, or prejudice against women. B. Dislike of, mistrust, or prejudice against women is manifested in various forms such as... sexual harassment..." Z. Thus, because there was sexual harassment, there is misogyny. But you have failed to show the core of misogyny: "hatred, dislike of, mistrust, or prejudice against women." This is evidenced by yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 03:49 AM
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Ok. So it's not the dictionary definition of misogyny. It's your personal definition of misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 03:18 AM
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It's extremely rude to craft a strawman to castigate my character. I'm not allowed to critique the use of the word mysogyny? By criticizing the blatant misuse of a word that frames the situation, I must be saying "You go dude, abuse that corpse"?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 03:09 AM
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That's quite the psychoanalysis for a hundred word piece of fiction. I haven't seen very many people that aren't "equally opportunity" degraders. Usually, if men are willing to degrade women, they are willing to degrade other men as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 02:55 AM
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To me, that seems like "woe is me". Or more-so, "woe is women". Making a comment about something that is uniquely female or male does not serve as indication that one is generally chauvinistic. Let's use a hypothetical. If this made-up boyfriend and his paramedic partner saw a man instead, and insisted turning the body over to make a comment on the man's penis size. Would you consider them to be misandrists?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 02:50 AM
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Are you saying that a man who is more sexually motivated for women but not men is a misogynist? Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 02:37 AM
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You mean a typical person telling a 'funny' story wouldn't describe onlookers as "looking at them with disgust"?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 02:21 AM
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That's a bit of an embellishment, basically a strawman for the situation. There's no indication that he views ALL women as sexual objects, just that this deranged, made-up boyfriend treats corpses with no respect. It would seem more like misanthropy, where the victim is a woman, so it's now considered "misogyny" to make it seem like a worse crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 02:16 AM
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Maybe I'm stupid. Can someone explain to me how that is "misogyny"?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 02:05 AM
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Hobby: n. an activity done regularly in one's leisure time for pleasure. What's the point of debating if we can freely change the definitions of words.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 10:02 PM
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I was using the browsing of PPD as a microcosmic representation for "hobbies". Unsuccessful men are on PPD as a way to overcome/deal/learn about their current dating woes, while women seemingly have no benefit being here other than entertainment purposes. Thus, browsing PPD is an attempt for men to become more "well-rounded" via relationship success while it really serves little purpose for the already successful women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 09:36 PM
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Well, just looking at the PPD constituents, from my observations, most of the women tend to be 'happily' in relationships, while most of the men are rather unsuccessful in dating. The fact that men are here as a way of understanding their predicament, while women are here for entertainment seems to speak for itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 09:29 PM
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If it’s not a thing, why do guys keep using the descriptor? Primarily because, as Jung said, "People don't have ideas. Ideas have people." Also, averageness is paradoxical, because the closer one is to average in a variety of some metrics, the more attractive they are overall. Regardless, using an indicator of a typical man is important, because if you look at genetic data, 80% of women reproduce while only 40% of men do. And, there was even a time where 17 women reproduced for every 1 man. The …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 07:45 PM
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The words I used were "...well-rounded hobbies". I wasn't defining a singular hobby as well rounded. I was defining the set of hobbies one pursued as well-rounded, as in, combined, they benefit a multitude of aspects of one's life longterm.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 07:13 PM
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You're missing the point entirely. The premise of that thread is that, as humans, we fail to grasp what "average-looking" truly is. Our beliefs about what is "average" most likely doesn't line up with the reality of "average". Thus, the thread is trying to tease out our own perceptions and compare them to the perceptions of others as a way of establishing truth. Because of the misalignment of true average vs. perceived average, asserting that the average man is dating based on your perception of…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 07:02 PM
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Strange. In my dating experience, women have typically been the ones with less interesting and well-rounded hobbies, along with a less diverse, more socially acceptable set of beliefs
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 06:53 PM
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