Star_Crunch_Munch Archive

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1	CMV: Single Men and Women Shouldn't Feel Bad About Having Sex With A Person In A Committed Relationship You are committing the Tu quoque fallacy. My hypocrisy in no way makes your original scenario any more or less moral. I think you not understanding that the incidence and level of harm to a third party during cheating is very high is either a lapse of understanding or not arguing in good faith. Here’s my question for you, if you think something is moral but 99.9999 percent of people do not think it is moral, does that carry weight with you? Are you wrong at that point about the morality of the t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/21 08:44 PM
1	CMV: Single Men and Women Shouldn't Feel Bad About Having Sex With A Person In A Committed Relationship If I’m understanding your position here correctly you are saying that because you don’t KNOW that the other person will be harmed then it’s okay. I think the part you are leaving out here is that, for the most part, I think it’s pretty common knowledge that the “other” person who is getting cheated on almost universally is hurt by the actions of the cheating partner. I don’t have science or a study in front of me, so I can’t give concrete numbers, but I’m going to go out on a limb here and say t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/21 12:18 PM
18	CMV: Single Men and Women Shouldn't Feel Bad About Having Sex With A Person In A Committed Relationship I try to live my life in a way that I can sleep well at night based on my decisions. Part of that clear conscience is knowing, and being at peace with, how my actions have effected others. If I know that I’m responsible for the misery or suffering of another person, even if it’s one relationship removed from my direct interactions, I wouldn’t feel good about that. That is why, for me, I wouldn’t be okay with it. If I knew the relationship was open, that’s different. But all in all, I try to do t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/21 01:15 AM
2	I find it funny how vocal women are about being against rape, yet their fantasies are literally full of it. Was literally about to explain the definition of rape. Thank you. I would upvote you twice if I could.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/12/20 10:57 PM
2	I find it funny how vocal women are about being against rape, yet their fantasies are literally full of it. No. They don’t. This is bizarre.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/12/20 10:52 PM
2	I find it funny how vocal women are about being against rape, yet their fantasies are literally full of it. Exactly. And additionally having a fantasy about being raped /= wanting to be raped irl. But I think we are saying the same thing basically.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/12/20 10:51 PM
3	I find it funny how vocal women are about being against rape, yet their fantasies are literally full of it. I think most guys are super against indiscriminate killing, but their “fantasies” are full of it because they like to play violent video games. It doesn’t mean much other than that it’s a fantasy. I think these fantasies are probably tapping into a primal drive that many of us have, both men and women. We are animals. It wasn’t very long ago (a few thousand years maybe) that we likely dominated sexually and killed to survive. But, we are civilized now. And we don’t want those things in our socie…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/12/20 10:38 PM
4	What does PPD think of relationships between teenagers and adults significantly older than them? Power imbalance can be caused by a lot more than differences in sexual experience.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/10/20 04:48 PM
28	What does PPD think of relationships between teenagers and adults significantly older than them? I think it depends on how big the gap in age is. A few years? No big deal. A lot of years? There’s probably something not okay about the older adult. There is a very real danger of massive power imbalances in that type of relationship as well as significant intellectual and developmental gaps between a young teenager and a much older adult. I think the laws are set up to help mitigate some of that...but even when everyone is within the law, I would question an older adult who pursues this type o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/10/20 12:40 PM
1	Studies are for people with no practical real-world instincts, and there aren't as many of them as you think Statistics can help understand general trends about a thing. So, I kind of disagree that they aren’t “for people with real world instincts”. They can help people with instincts be even better by better understanding the reality of a situation and odds and trends. At the same time, they usually aren’t absolute. For example, if an area has high crime (as evidenced by a statistic) I might be wise to be a little more cautious there, or not purchase property there. But at the same time anyone with go…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/08/20 11:33 PM
1	Discussion: Are breadwinner wives emasculating or a threat to stability? Yeah honestly it goes both ways. What I mean is that sometimes there could be some lead up and foreplay, but other times there’s zero lead up and the aggressiveness is even more erotic than foreplay. Sometimes it’s just asking for, or playfully demanding, or actually demanding a blowjob (or really whatever form of sex I’m in the mood for). Really, the key to having “sex on tap” like a lot of these guys talk about is to keep a sexually charged relationship. Daily life is the foreplay....if that m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/08/20 08:21 PM
2	Discussion: Are breadwinner wives emasculating or a threat to stability? I honestly don’t know how other women would react to this arrangement, because I don’t know how many others are capable of the arrangement in the first place (financially, not emotionally). That being said, I’m not the only guy I know with a sugar mama Hahhaha. I’m mostly kidding about the “sugar mama” though. I get a lot done, and that has value. This arrangement has been in place for over 12 years (although I did have a full time gig for four years in the middle of that 12). Yes, I think she w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/20 01:23 PM
4	Discussion: Are breadwinner wives emasculating or a threat to stability? This. There’s a lot that goes into running a household and taking care of kids. And, because I have a background as a contractor, I also sometimes knock out huge house projects like renovating a bathroom or kitchen, or larger landscaping projects. I’m like a housewife and home renovation contractor and auto mechanic rolled up into one. So, we are both bringing a lot to the table, it’s simply not traditional. The other thing to be taken into account is how relationships evolve. These weren’t ALWA…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/20 11:47 AM
4	Discussion: Are breadwinner wives emasculating or a threat to stability? Our financial situation is both complicated and simple at the same time. It’s complicated because she runs her business which is the main source of income. She also has a side gig which earns significant income as well. There is also some real estate investments that I made when I was younger which could be described as my income, but it’s passive and is less than half what she earns...but it’s something. We have always been a huge proponent of having multiple income streams in case one dries up…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/20 11:38 AM
18	Discussion: Are breadwinner wives emasculating or a threat to stability? I can speak for myself and the general trends I see. My wife is the breadwinner in our relationship. Like....fully the breadwinner. The traditional roles are reversed in our house when it comes to earning and child rearing. It has NEVER been a problem for her, but it has been hard for me at times. It’s hard, as a man, or maybe just as me, to not tie identity and value to earning. Over the years I’ve come to terms with it, but I do feel more fulfilled when I’m bringing in significant earnings. My…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/20 01:22 AM
9	Men who get women pregnant and then leave them behind should be forced to invest their time and money and not force other men or the government to foot the bill Ah okay. Yeah I don’t know how the laws vary from state to state, but in my home state anyone that doesn’t pay can be incarcerated. And, payments are pretty significant.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/08/20 09:36 PM
23	Men who get women pregnant and then leave them behind should be forced to invest their time and money and not force other men or the government to foot the bill Doesn’t this already exist in the form of “child support”? Maybe I’m missing something. Seriously, not trying to be snarky.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/08/20 09:30 PM
1	What do you think about marrying your first partner? I can understand that. I don’t know how I would have felt about that either. I was so religiously conservative about that side of things when I was younger I probably would have disqualified her for marriage anyways, but if I had gone through with it or found out later in the marriage about it, it likely would have been a relationship ender. Now that my worldview is SO different than it was then, I’d like to believe it wouldn’t bother me as much....but I really don’t know. Good luck, and I hope …	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/20 12:29 PM
1	What do you think about marrying your first partner? From the emotional/intellectual side of things...no. Our compatibility is very high. Not to be tropey, but I’ve never met another person like her. From the sexual side, a part of me wonders what other experiences would be like, sure. “Regret” is probably too strong of a word. The physical side has always been excellent, even throughout our religious years. Because she was not raised in the church like I was, she had no sexual hangups like it seems many Christians do. So I didn’t have to deal wit…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/20 12:22 PM
2	What do you think about marrying your first partner? I’m really torn on this one. I grew up religious and extremely conservative. My wife and I are each others first.....everything. We married young and are celebrating our 20 year reunion when a lot of people are just getting started. Our marriage has been pretty freaking amazing. But, we deconverted from religion a few years ago. If I were to go back in time with what I know now, I likely would have been sexually active before marriage and not passed up some of the opportunities that I had. At th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/20 04:13 AM
1	AMA. I’m a Russian woman who had the privilege to travel the world and get insight into the differences between West/East mentalities. I don’t think education and manners are exclusive to the East, but possibly more predominant. And I still maintain that the root of the issue is arrogance. Generally when I see non-Americans commenting on Reddit the trend seems to be less arrogance in general. Of course it’s hard to tell from that sample size alone....but we do have information that could point to what I’m suggesting. For example, recently, many in the US response to Covid and wearing masks has shown them to be ignorant of scien…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/07/20 12:55 PM
2	AMA. I’m a Russian woman who had the privilege to travel the world and get insight into the differences between West/East mentalities. This answer is very modest / non-arrogant. THAT is a large contrast to many in the West. It’s refreshing to see.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/07/20 12:10 PM
1	How much do you personally want to keep private from a spouse/LTR? Depends on how good their OPSEC is. I have an old friend who was definitely using his regular phone.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/20 09:16 PM
1	How much do you personally want to keep private from a spouse/LTR? Because I can observe cheating, lack of honesty with one another, disagreements on how to raise the kids, one spouse domineering over another, lack of communication, living separate lives, disagreements about financial decisions, etc. There’s lots of things that are arguably dysfunctional that I can point to.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/20 09:08 PM
0	How much do you personally want to keep private from a spouse/LTR? My wife and I have total access to all parts of one another’s lives. The trust goes both ways. There are no secrets. Most that know us would probably say that our relationship is very strong. I’ll add that the couples that I know who have things separated arguably have a reasonable level of dysfunction in their relationships. I would add the caveat that I don’t think this applies to new couples / relationships. Trust is earned over time. But if it’s been a really long time and these barriers are…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/20 08:32 PM
3	Beyond the odd diet, women don’t self improve My experience is anecdotal, but my gym is split about 50/50. They are in different parts of the gym though. The women are usually in classes and the guys are usually on the floor.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/20 02:50 AM
4	Beyond the odd diet, women don’t self improve Beyond the odd diet, most PEOPLE don’t self improve. ftfy I see this with both men and women pretty much equally. Most dudes (in the US at least) are sloppy and don’t take care of themselves. Most women (in the US) are the same.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/20 02:36 AM
13	The SAHM/Homemaker role is great. Women gave away their happiness and power by choosing to work for a corporation instead Some women like to stay at home and raise kids, some do not. Some men like to stay at home and raise kids. Some do not. I have been in a somewhat unique position in that both my wife and I have had times in our marriage where we have each fulfilled every one of these roles. She has been a SAHM and also the breadwinner. I have been a SAHD and also the breadwinner. Different people like different things. There is no one size fits all for these roles.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/04/20 02:02 AM
2	[CMV] The biggest mistake that most everyone who is dissatisfied with their results in the SMP is that they blame everyone else, don't take accountability, and do nothing/not_much to increase their SMV Shhhhh. You’re going to increase competition! Just kidding, I don’t care. I’m happily married to an incredible chick. But the principles you outlined above made that possible. From chubby loser to fit guy moving up in the world. It works.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/04/20 06:46 PM
1	Battle of the Redpillers: Which redpill-based sub is right? It’s not that there isn’t truth to all of them. I’m here because I find this stuff interesting and identify with aspects of the different philosophies. I’m just answering the question of which one is “right”. And the way many of the philosophies speak in absolutes when I have areas of my life that run contrary let’s me know they don’t have it “right”.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/04/20 06:05 PM
7	Battle of the Redpillers: Which redpill-based sub is right? D) none of the above	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/04/20 04:01 PM
0	Q4M: Would you get into sex work, if you could make decent profit off it? That’s pretty easy, yes. But being successful at it probably isn’t that easy. Do you believe that your example represents the level of work that most sex workers put in to make a living?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/20 10:58 PM
1	Q4M: Would you get into sex work, if you could make decent profit off it? I would say, like many things in life, you can flip burgers or you can own a chain of burger joints...or anything within that spectrum. I think it’s short sighted to paint that entire industry as low skill or not “work”. And to presume that sex work require only a “modicum of effort / labor and time” may be incorrect.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/20 07:14 PM
3	Q4M: Would you get into sex work, if you could make decent profit off it? If I could maintain complete anonymity, I probably would. I’ve actually considered doing this with the wife since we fit the profile of a couple that could likely make okay money at it. I don’t see it as particularly immoral and our relationship is secure. The only major downside for us would be the stigma amongst our real-life circle of friends / acquaintances. If that was secure, we would likely give it a try. So it’s a yes from me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/20 01:52 PM
1	Isn’t “women this age are more attractive than women that age because they’re more fertile” kind of a dumb argument? I agree..it is simplified. I don’t know that starting with a more in depth explanation is the best way to start out. That’s why I specifically addressed explaining it more if it wasn’t making sense in both my posts. I can understand you not wanting to discuss the topic more though. Maybe some other time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/04/20 05:08 AM
1	Isn’t “women this age are more attractive than women that age because they’re more fertile” kind of a dumb argument? What I mean is, whoever happened to mate with the most fertile females that made the most robust surviving babies, over time will make more of the same. Essentially nature is selecting the most fertile specimens because they are surviving the most and making more. The men who mated with weaker producers make less babies and over time that combination is less and less prevalent. So, men who were naturally attracted to and who chose the best producing females had their genes continued. So....over …	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/04/20 04:33 AM
3	Isn’t “women this age are more attractive than women that age because they’re more fertile” kind of a dumb argument? Underrated comment. I agree and commented along the same lines. You probably said it better though. :)	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/04/20 12:07 AM
2	Isn’t “women this age are more attractive than women that age because they’re more fertile” kind of a dumb argument? I think the argument from an evolutionary biological standpoint would be those who mated with the most fertile / best baby making females passed on their genes creating more babies with the genes to want to date with the most fertile / best baby making women. That’s super simplified, but that’s the gist. So basically, on average, men should find most attractive (based on genetics) the age group most likely to give healthy babies that can survive. 12 year olds don’t make as good mothers when it c…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/04/20 10:54 PM
1	Is the “sex economy” something that should be regulated? I think a huge step towards “regulating” it is actually by deregulation. If prostitution, escorts, etc were legal, many of these problems would go away. Of course it can be argued that it would open a whole new set of problems...but in general I lean towards freedom often being the better course.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/04/20 12:29 PM
1	Is sexlessness really that bad? “What happens to a dream deferred? Does it dry up like a raisin in the sun? Or fester like a sore— And then run? Does it stink like rotten meat? Or crust and sugar over— like a syrupy sweet? Maybe it just sags like a heavy load. Or does it explode?” Langston Hughes If it’s important to someone and they aren’t getting it, it can be detrimental. If it’s not important, it may not matter much. It’s individual. Although I would posit that sex, at least for a good portion of a man’s life, is often imp…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/20 08:33 PM
3	Q4A: What Was, Or Is, Your Longest Relationship? I do think I’m lucky. There’s definitely some things I’ve done to lay the groundwork to make this thing work long term. And I “picked” my wife really really well....but honestly a lot of it was absolutely luck. How does an 18 year old kid know how to properly vet a future spouse? Answer: he doesn’t really. I did my best to choose good qualities (I was really mature for my age at that point in my life) but I was still severely lacking on life experience and it was a shot in the dark even trying m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/20 01:20 AM
6	Q4A: What Was, Or Is, Your Longest Relationship? Hahhah. Maybe!....but very very very unlikely. I would be foolish to say that I know with 100% certainty that she isn’t because I don’t know that anyone can know anything with certainty. But, I’m extremely secure in where we are in our marriage. :)	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/20 01:13 AM
2	Q4A: What Was, Or Is, Your Longest Relationship? Congrats! And agreed. I think there are truths to red pill philosophy, but I know for a fact it’s not all correct because I’m living opposite some of the tenets. You said it well. People are complex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/20 01:11 AM
6	Q4A: What Was, Or Is, Your Longest Relationship? Male. Purple-ish. Married. Over 20 years. High school sweethearts who married very young. Still very much in love. Still highly sexual relationship. Still genuinely like one another. AMA. :)	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/20 12:18 AM
16	The orgasm gap It could also be that when women were willing to have anal sex, it was because they were already in a sexual encounter they were really “in to”. It’s possible that just slapping anal sex onto an already mediocre sex session wouldn’t really increase the numbers at all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/03/20 12:26 AM
6	Let's talk about cheating. 3 Questions. The only times that I think it might be okay are in circumstances that are so beyond the realm of reality it’s kind of moot. Like, spouse is in a permanent coma with no chance of ever waking, or spouse is MIA military with no hope of ever finding them....crazy things like that. And even in those times “okay” might not be the best word. More like “understandable”. Other than those extreme circumstances....agreed. Never okay.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/20 05:28 PM
3	Do you think people in a marriage could be each other's friend or even best friend? Yes. My anecdotal evidence is my own marriage. I would consider myself fairly purple. I think a lot of red has merit, but it’s far too black and white and speaks in absolutes. Many of the things red claim literally is not my experience so I can’t completely agree with the philosophy. My wife is absolutely my best friend. One of our “things” that we’ve been saying for many years is “I like you” and following it with I love you. The meaning being that we not only love one another, we genuinely enj…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/03/20 01:39 PM
6	Why do so many women complain about their husbands/BFs going to strip clubs? Some do, but not that many. While extremely conservative couples might have a major problem with this, in my experience the bulk of women really don’t care AS LONG AS its not impacting real life finances and time commitments in a negative way. Basically if the average joe hits a strip club every few years with his buddies to “live it up” and relive the glory days or whatever, most chicks don’t care. If he’s down there every few days wasting finances and not spending time with people in his life.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/02/20 04:31 PM
2	What’s the point of wanting marriage if all the guy wants is sex? I don’t know for sure. I personally did marry someone with an education and career, but I’m not sure if that is what all men value. I can see scenarios where that wouldn’t be as important. Maybe a guy wants more traditional roles and wants to be the bread winner while his wife does the typical homemaker role. Child rearing is no joke. If that’s what is important to him, education and career may not be high on his priorities list. I think one couple can want different things from marriage than an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/20 02:39 AM
13	CMV: Saying that RP explains human nature isn't a good reason to subscribe to TRP. I think there just may be a misunderstanding of the word “explain” in this context. Generally when used in this sentence it means “is the accurate reason for”. I don’t think the sentence means “offers a possible explanation for”. Like when someone says that their teacher explained why the sky is blue they don’t mean that they offered a possible explanation for the reason, they mean the teacher offered the scientific truth for the reason why the sky is blue.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/20 09:26 PM
17	What’s the point of wanting marriage if all the guy wants is sex? With that premise (all the guy wants is sex) there is no point in marrying. But I think we all are pretty sure that the premise is not true. So, there are reasons to marry for many.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/20 05:49 PM
1	Which sex do you GENUINELY believe is the more likely to cheat in a HAPPY relationship and why? Please include your own sex. Yup. I’m with you. And it’s nice to have some reasonable debate on the inter webs. Devil’s Advocate is what it’s all about. Helps sharpen a position and see things from both sides. And I do see the other side. I even agree with it. I’m just framing definitions a tad different than some others. Thanks for the convo.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/20 02:39 PM
1	Which sex do you GENUINELY believe is the more likely to cheat in a HAPPY relationship and why? Please include your own sex. Yeah I can see that. I don’t think it runs contrary to my earlier statements either. If that guy on deployment was “happy” and getting the sex he wanted, he wouldn’t have cheated on deployment. The circumstances are absolutely understandable...and I could understand why he’d do it, but the ultimate driver to the action of cheating is “unhappiness” I think. Now, as to whether it’s WRONG is an entirely different thing. For me, it IS wrong because I think breaking a contract or agreement is immoral…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/20 02:18 PM
2	Which sex do you GENUINELY believe is the more likely to cheat in a HAPPY relationship and why? Please include your own sex. I don’t even know if we disagree. I think we may be arguing semantics. Here’s an example. There once was a dude who owned a Ferrari. He really really liked his Ferrari. He drove it all the time. Then one day he also wanted a Land Rover. So he bought that too. He claims to love them both and that there was no problem with his Ferrari, he just wanted a Land Rover too. I personally think he wasn’t truly happy with the Ferrari, because it wasn’t meeting all the needs he had in mind. I think you woul…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/20 08:39 PM
3	Which sex do you GENUINELY believe is the more likely to cheat in a HAPPY relationship and why? Please include your own sex. Some people are genuinely satisfied without the variety obtained from having sex with people other than their partners. There are also those who are not happy with monogamy. Some of those unhappy people cheat. Some of those unhappy people do not cheat. But if someone is happy with monogamy and given the opportunity to cheat, they almost definitely won’t cheat. As far as this idea that they should just “do what feels good”....yeah I kinda get that, but there are very valid reasons for monogamy th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/20 06:57 PM
3	Which sex do you GENUINELY believe is the more likely to cheat in a HAPPY relationship and why? Please include your own sex. I get that. And I know those situations happen. But I think those people are delusional about their “happiness”. Or at least their version of happiness isn’t the same as mine. And that’s fine. I think that guy who is on the business trip is missing something...he doesn’t have something he wants. While he may describe himself as overall “happy”, I think that some possible options are 1) he needed sex more often 2) he needed sexual variety with partners 3) he was emotionally lacking danger or tabo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/20 06:03 PM
3	Which sex do you GENUINELY believe is the more likely to cheat in a HAPPY relationship and why? Please include your own sex. I have never met anyone in a relationship that was happy that cheated. Ever. I’m not saying it doesn’t happen. I kinda think there aren’t many absolutes with human behavior. I just have never seen it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/20 05:19 PM
1	Which sex do you GENUINELY believe is the more likely to cheat in a HAPPY relationship and why? Please include your own sex. Neither. I think it depends on your definition of “happy”. If either cheated there were underlying problems and deficiency which made the relationship less than “happy” imo. Edit: I’m a guy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/20 05:12 PM
1	"RP works tho" Okay. I think there will usually be exceptions, but for casual sex, yeah I can see what you’re saying. I have ABSOLUTELY seen guys that most would view as very unattractive in the face compensate with physique and personality (not even money) and land long term relationships with what seem like decent women that are “out of their league”. But I haven’t seen this work as well for casual sex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/20 11:12 PM
1	"RP works tho" Honestly I’m not sure on this. Are you talking within the context of looks, or are you talking about a total package including personality, intelligence, etc?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/20 09:56 PM
3	"RP works tho" I partially agree with you. Which leads to one of my greatest problems with TRP philosophy in general. It’s too binary IMO. It’s too absolute. I think most things (especially related to behavior) fall more on a spectrum than an absolute. Women shouldn’t ALWAYS be treated like “children”. But, I have seen more of a tendency in women to prefer to be led. So on the spectrum a bulk of women probably prefer to be led (especially in the context of relationships) with outliers in a bell curve both dire…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/20 09:46 PM
6	"RP works tho" I think the evidence that TRP works is in the stories and experience of people who have applied it’s principles and seen success. There are many stories of men who were unsuccessful for long periods of time, changed their actions in accordance with TRP, and began to see success. Psychology can be a little grey sometimes even with the best of studies, so I think for many men, this is the best they’ve found to work off of. What else should someone do if they want different results than to try a ne…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/20 05:04 PM
1	Q4All: From your experience, at what height does it really start to become a disadvantage in dating for men? Your logic could probably use a little sharpening. Until then I’m not sure you’ll be convinced. Good luck.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/20 05:55 PM
3	Q4All: From your experience, at what height does it really start to become a disadvantage in dating for men? “dis·ad·van·tage /ˌdisədˈvan(t)ij/ noun an unfavorable circumstance or condition that reduces the chances of success or effectiveness.” Does being short for guys, or having small boobs or a flat butt for girls “reduce the chances of success” in dating in comparison to their endowed counterparts in your opinion? Because if it’s even the slightest bit reduction in chance of success it falls under the definition of a disadvantage. Is it a SIGNIFICANT disadvantage?....maybe, maybe not. I’d argue as …	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/20 04:35 PM
6	Q4All: From your experience, at what height does it really start to become a disadvantage in dating for men? I get what you’re saying but I think “do well” isn’t the same as “no disadvantage”. What I mean is that someone can still be at a disadvantage and do amazing with women. But, is the shorter guy at a disadvantage all else being equal? I think the data says yes. So it kinda DOES matter in some respects. Dating success may have more than 0% to do with a guys height.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/20 04:07 PM
1	Q4All: From your experience, at what height does it really start to become a disadvantage in dating for men? I think that’s mostly true. I wouldn’t say NO women are into it. I’m guessing there is some woman out there somewhere who actually prefers short guys....but I think you are right in almost all cases. And yeah, it has to be compensated for if shorter guys wants to have a better chance at dating success. And it sucks...but it just is how it is. I don’t see it changing anytime soon.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/20 03:31 PM
2	Q4All: From your experience, at what height does it really start to become a disadvantage in dating for men? Well...maybe. I can agree the study shows success in how many sexual encounters, but I don’t know that most would consider that equivalent to success in dating. “Success” definitely means different things to different people, but I think many would say that being in the best position is to be able to get frequent dates with people that the general population views as attractive both physically and emotionally. I think shorter guys will likely have a disadvantage getting those things, but can sti…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/20 03:23 PM
3	Q4All: From your experience, at what height does it really start to become a disadvantage in dating for men? I can absolutely agree with this. I commented above and said 5’8-5’9” but that was an “in person” assessment. When it’s written out in print / online anything under 6’ would likely be a disadvantage.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/20 03:11 PM
1	Q4All: From your experience, at what height does it really start to become a disadvantage in dating for men? Right. It probably is some other factor that makes you SEEM taller. It’s probably either your literal build, or something about how you carry yourself. That’s why, even though it is definitely a disadvantage, I haven’t seen any evidence to make me believe hight cannot be balanced by other things to help shorter dudes still be successful with women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/20 03:06 PM
3	Q4All: From your experience, at what height does it really start to become a disadvantage in dating for men? I think anything under 5’8” maybe 5’9” begins to be perceived at shortish. I also think different guys can seem taller or shorter than they are depending on other things like musculature and how they “carry themselves” (confidence), but somewhere in that 5’8-5’9” range is what I’d say. Also, anecdotally, I have absolutely seen short guys with gorgeous girls. I’m pretty big into fitness / lifting myself so I am friends and acquaintances with lots of fit guys. I have seen amateur bodybuilders in t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/20 03:02 PM
2	Where does this myth that guys. Especially good looking guys. Will have sex with anything that walks? I think often ideas that are perpetuated in society that aren’t completely true have some sliver of truth to them. I do believe that there are SOME good looking guys who will have sex with “anything that walks”. So, people will sometimes get hyperbolic with their statements and begin to go full exaggeration and paint EVERY good looking male with the same wide brush. But, the people who say these exaggerated statements aren’t really the majority imo. They are just the LOUDEST. They say it the mos…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/20 04:51 PM
10	CMV: When it comes to wanting to mate with multiple women, (just about) AMALT. If they could, they would, and when they can, they do. I’m posting in this comment thread because my experience is anecdotal and based on my experiences, not backed by research that is verifiable. I’m not going to pretend this is science. I think your presuppositions are somewhat true, but not completely. What I mean is, I think that in a complete vacuum that it is very possible that most men would have sex with many different women. If I could have sex with other women besides my wife with zero repercussions to anyone I would likely do that. That m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/20 01:48 AM
6	Why do you think less young people are having sex than ever before? Young people are simply not going out as much. They aren’t interacting in person as much. You can’t have sex with another human if you literally are not around other humans. There are probably a variety of reasons.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/20 09:36 PM
2	What types of women struggle the most with relationships? Ah crap. I didn’t see the for women tag. I’ll delete thanks.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/20 04:41 PM
1	Guys of PPD, if you've ever advised a man to work out as a means of getting more success in relationships, what body type were you referring to? If they aren’t taking body weight into account and are simply spouting a number then I wouldn’t trust that source....at all. Also most of the fitness gurus are absolutely cycling steroids so if they are basing what a natural lifter can do on what their steroid enhanced bodies can lift they are way off base. Here is a link to a site that shows strength levels based on weight and weightlifting data. https://exrx.net/Testing/WeightLifting/StrengthStandards Hope this helps!	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/20 01:56 PM
1	Guys of PPD, if you've ever advised a man to work out as a means of getting more success in relationships, what body type were you referring to? Possibly. And I don’t know if that’s really a negative thing. If my conversion is right and he’s on the upper end of your estimate 90kg is close to 200lbs. The guy in that pic, depending on height, could weigh anywhere from 135 to 160 lbs. weighing 150 lbs and benching 200 is not bad at all. I have a lot of years of lifting, but I’m not naturally a strong or big guy at all. When I’m cut up, I weigh about 165. My max bench is 245 when I’m heavy but probably drops to 215 when I’m lean (not 100% su…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/20 01:00 PM
1	Do men know what it feels like to not be attracted to someone? So I was a late bloomer (later teens). I was arguably incel-ish in my formative years. After blooming and realizing some things I became pretty high value in my circles. Not gonna explain too much here (humble brag avoidance :) ). But, I think it gives me some perspective on why I felt the way I did at that stage in my life. I never went full anger, but was definitely highly frustrated and bummed a lot. It wasn’t because I thought women owed me something. It’s because the disparity between what …	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/20 02:17 AM
3	Guys of PPD, if you've ever advised a man to work out as a means of getting more success in relationships, what body type were you referring to? Yes. And to add to this, real life steroid users are generally what the average person thinks all guys will look like when they merely work out naturally. The general public has no idea that almost every gym bro that is biggish is on. What many girls don’t realize is that the guy that they hope for who’s “not too big like a bodybuilder just fit” is very often a steroid enhanced physique. :)	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/20 09:05 PM
2	Guys of PPD, if you've ever advised a man to work out as a means of getting more success in relationships, what body type were you referring to? I’ll take that as a compliment, thanks! :) I think you have a good goal. I looked up Scott for more pics and I think his physique is completely attainable naturally (and he might be one of the few who aren’t lying about being natural). He’s also 5’10” I think which is almost 3 inches shorter than me so you can kinda see where some of his perceived size comes from. Also that pic you posted is one of his largest looking pics and he’s angling pretty hard. This one https://imgur.com/a/gXUWZ96 is mor…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/20 06:31 PM
2	Guys of PPD, if you've ever advised a man to work out as a means of getting more success in relationships, what body type were you referring to? Sorry if I came off as condescending or reprimanding...that wasn’t my intention. As far as that guy in the pic, he may be near his potential. It’s hard to tell from just that picture. In my experience most natural guys can put on a maximum of about 20 lbs of skeletal muscle from their pre-lifting muscle mass. This is also why shorter guys seem to “get bigger”. Because that 20lbs looks a LOT more significant on a 5’8” guy than a 6’2” guy. So if a guy is like 135 skeletal mass lean, he’ll get to 1…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/20 06:15 PM
2	Guys of PPD, if you've ever advised a man to work out as a means of getting more success in relationships, what body type were you referring to? As a follow up, girls claim that they don’t love big muscles....but I kinda call shenanigans. What turns heads on many women is a steroid physique. Now....women may not prefer that body type for a long term relationship, but that doesn’t mean it didn’t turn their heads and get their attention. Guys are honestly similar IMO. They claim they don’t like breast implants or a chick who is stacked, but that is what turns their heads. That’s what their eyes keep darting to across the room. Even if they…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/20 05:51 PM
1	Guys of PPD, if you've ever advised a man to work out as a means of getting more success in relationships, what body type were you referring to? You’re bigger than the first example AND as lean as the first example?	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/20 05:41 PM
4	Guys of PPD, if you've ever advised a man to work out as a means of getting more success in relationships, what body type were you referring to? I advise guys I know to try to pack on as much muscle as they can and to get relatively lean. That’s going to look a lot more like picture one if they guy is all natural. I think many guys in TRP spouting lifting/fitness advice aren’t really super experienced in that department. But, if I had to guess what body type they are referring to and trying to get guys to believe they can attain, it’s leaning towards an unnatural (steroid enhanced) physique. I don’t think most are realistically trying to…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/20 05:03 PM
1	Q4Men: What would you think if your wife or girlfriend looksmaxed with breast or butt implants? And that’s cool if that’s what you want to do. I think what I’m expressing here is that there are also people who live in a reality where breast augmentation doesn’t negatively impact (and even positively impacts) their relationship. You may not want to take a risk and view it as a deal breaker. For me it was basically a non issue. My biggest worry was her going under anesthesia. That’s the only real worry I had. And I currently have no worries about it. At all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/20 12:27 AM
1	Q4Men: What would you think if your wife or girlfriend looksmaxed with breast or butt implants? Yeah the motivation of why a partner would want something like implants is definitely worth examining. I can say with 99.9% certainty (because anyone who thinks they know something for certain may be a fool) that she absolutely has NO intention of using her breasts for nefarious purposes Hahhaha. Unless you would consider it nefarious to seduce her own husband. :)	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/20 12:11 AM
1	Q4Men: What would you think if your wife or girlfriend looksmaxed with breast or butt implants? I have no personal evidence or indication to support your statement. Those are the issues that, even though I do think some RP stuff has merit, make me realize that the RP is too black and white. I’m literally living a different experience than others are saying is possible. Many things psychological operate on more of a spectrum than binary.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/20 12:04 AM
1	Q4Men: What would you think if your wife or girlfriend looksmaxed with breast or butt implants? That’s great man. And if that made you happy and worked / is working out for you...more power to ya! Seriously! Not being snarky here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/20 12:00 AM
1	Q4Men: What would you think if your wife or girlfriend looksmaxed with breast or butt implants? It’s definitely a person to person thing. I also think (this is not you btw) most people that judge others while doing things that are purely cosmetic to themselves everyday are being disingenuous, and often are responding out of ignorance at best and jealousy at worst.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/20 11:59 PM
2	Q4Men: What would you think if your wife or girlfriend looksmaxed with breast or butt implants? I would say in some small part yes. It’s definitely a small part though. But, we are both naturally maximizers and “achievers” so if we can find ways to increase our happiness or perceived quality of life, we weigh the cost of that and decide accordingly.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/20 11:56 PM
1	Q4Men: What would you think if your wife or girlfriend looksmaxed with breast or butt implants? Well then for you maybe society has no impact on your perceptions of what you should do, looks wise. I think that’s great if that’s what you want to do. I hope that is working or did work well for you. My wife and I DO conform to societal norms of beauty and style in some ways, and I would say we both reap rewards that are important to us because of it. Those rewards may not interest you either, and that is totally okay!	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/20 11:53 PM
2	Q4Men: What would you think if your wife or girlfriend looksmaxed with breast or butt implants? You didn’t cut your hair ever? You never shaved? You never brushed your hair? I don’t understand.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/20 11:49 PM
2	Q4Men: What would you think if your wife or girlfriend looksmaxed with breast or butt implants? I don’t know why those women do what they do honestly. And I’m not saying that it’s not a problem for their backs either. I’m specifically saying it’s not a problem for my wife.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/20 11:47 PM
1	Q4Men: What would you think if your wife or girlfriend looksmaxed with breast or butt implants? Yeah there are many reasons, some obvious and some subtle, why people maintain or enhance their looks. I have been consistently in the gym for 15 years now (not huge at all though, natural and fit) and it doesn’t have a lot to do with my wife. It makes me feel good about me, and I have zero desire or plan to stray. Never really have either.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/20 11:46 PM
5	Q4Men: What would you think if your wife or girlfriend looksmaxed with breast or butt implants? Thanks! Yeah I totally understand. I had no problem with the sag, but also have NO problem with the “enhanced” version either. :) But, what you say is very true for a lot of women. The sag can be undesirable for many reasons...and one of my wife’s biggest motivators was clothes. After kids and a lot of breastfeeding bras became more like she was liquid poured into a cup and she couldn’t wear a lot of things because she would fall out very easily. Implants are often not only looks motivated.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/20 11:39 PM
7	Q4Men: What would you think if your wife or girlfriend looksmaxed with breast or butt implants? In our experience the “back pain” thing is a non-issue. Honestly I think because she keeps herself fit, an extra three pounds across her chest area doesn’t make much difference for back health for her.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/20 11:35 PM
2	Q4Men: What would you think if your wife or girlfriend looksmaxed with breast or butt implants? I think I know what you’re getting at but I think it’s short sighted to believe married people should live in a vacuum where the only person that they do anything for or are influenced by is their partner. Ask yourself this, if your partner truly didn’t care one way or the other if you brushed your hair, barring work scenarios would you bother to groom yourself again? If so....why?	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/20 11:33 PM
15	Q4Men: What would you think if your wife or girlfriend looksmaxed with breast or butt implants? Wife did. But it’s been during our relationship. It’s awesome. Honestly I was and am cool either way, but after kids she got a little “flap jacky” up top so she wanted to get something to improve that issue. She does look amazing though....no doubt. It’s zero problem for us. She is the most faithful, humble, down to earth chick I’ve ever met when she absolutely doesn’t have to be considering that she is objectively gorgeous, fit, and built like a literal porn star. Not AWALT to the black and whi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/20 08:58 PM
1	Q4Men: How much do you spend on your girlfriends/wives a month? We have merged finances since the beginning but she is my sugar-mama so I guess she costs about -$however much it costs to support me. Hahhaha. Seriously though. :)	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/20 06:50 PM
7	Men who didn't have good male role models, were you ever able to overcome it? Maybe. I actually think there’s a case to be made for no model being easier to overcome than a crappy one. Because kids naturally look up to and emulate the role models in their life, it can be harder for kids with cruddy models to realize that they are not quality models and may be years later before they start to make positive changes to undo that programming. An intelligent kid with “no” models may be on a faster track to choosing the best direction for their own life based on what would like…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/20 06:34 PM
2	The "sew your wild oats and then settle down when that becomes less palatable" approach to dating/sex is the ideal dating strategy of both men and women. Lower tier men are just bitter that they don't have access to it. I think the RP takes a hard line on a lot of issues that are far from black and white. The idea that AWALT and that all women will respond the same way to certain things is silly to me, and my anecdotal experience has shown otherwise. Just one small example is the idea of not sharing weaknesses, doubts, the STFU mentality, being an “oak” etc. They are all great in theory, but I am living very differently and my results have been extremely positive. I am naturally expressive. I sometimes over sha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/20 02:24 PM
1	Have you ever felt completely safe expressing your emotions to your SO? Yes. Pretty much always.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/20 02:02 AM
7	The "sew your wild oats and then settle down when that becomes less palatable" approach to dating/sex is the ideal dating strategy of both men and women. Lower tier men are just bitter that they don't have access to it. Piping in as another man who got married young, does not regret it, and is still very happily married many years later. Most would have considered me high value then, and in many ways am high value now (with some weird caveats that run very contrary to RP theology). Wife is also very high value. It is possible because I’m living it. Unicorn?....whatever. I do believe lots of RP ideas are legit, but definitely not all because I am literally living contrary to some of them and living a lifestyle t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/20 01:57 AM
4	‘The Wall’ I think a lot of the RP stuff has merit. I also think that many people let themselves go as they age. But, I’m in the gym consistently (and have been for the last 15 years) and if men OR women take care of themselves, looks hold pretty steady into the forties and seem to decline linearly after that. Basically I think the idea of a “wall” is silly. The wall is mostly self imposed by people who stop maintaining themselves and applies to men and women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/12/19 12:53 PM
1	Q4RP - Can a seasoned TRP please explain the 'she won't do anal because you'require low value' notion If you are looking for scientific measurements, I think you’ll have a hard time quantifying something that is as subjective as “satisfaction” or “quality”. So, we are mostly left with anecdotal experiences. That being said, if what we are left with is anecdotal experience, than the body of anecdotal evidence that points in one specific direction over another is probably the better theory. Most in TRP are coming to these conclusions due to a overwhelming body of anecdotes (and possibly some scien…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/12/19 12:11 AM
1	Q4RP - Can a seasoned TRP please explain the 'she won't do anal because you'require low value' notion Well, a few things may be happening here. 1) you may have never had sex with someone who ticks the boxes of super high SMV AND very good in bed...to the point that it causes you to enjoy things you didn’t know you could enjoy or didn’t enjoy with others 2) you may just not understand exactly what I’m trying to convey 3) you may not understand or be in denial of your own motivations 4) you may be the one out of a million unicorn of unicorns who’s sexual fulfillment exists in a vacuum where the gu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/19 11:45 PM
1	Q4RP - Can a seasoned TRP please explain the 'she won't do anal because you'require low value' notion Sorry, maybe I wasn’t clear enough. All else being equal....meaning they are both equally skilled at the sexual act itself, do you think you would perceive the sexual encounter as being a better sexual encounter with the super attractive rich popular guy?	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/19 11:27 PM
1	Q4RP - Can a seasoned TRP please explain the 'she won't do anal because you'require low value' notion Okay, I think we may be getting somewhere here. So, all else being equal, is it possible that if you were having sex with say, Jason Mamoa (or insert another wealthy Hollywood hot dude of your choosing) that you would have a better sexual encounter with him than some “5” dude?	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/19 11:09 PM
1	Q4RP - Can a seasoned TRP please explain the 'she won't do anal because you'require low value' notion Is “chemistry” completely divorced from sexual market value for you?	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/19 10:56 PM
1	Q4RP - Can a seasoned TRP please explain the 'she won't do anal because you'require low value' notion Do you think that the perceived quality of the sex session is can be influenced by how attractive the woman perceives the man to be?	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/19 10:39 PM
0	Q4RP - Can a seasoned TRP please explain the 'she won't do anal because you'require low value' notion Not in my experience. Depending on how turned on she is, something that would be considered not pleasurable normally to her can become very pleasurable during sex and especially near orgasm. Do you see how this could translate to her receiving pleasure during one sexual act with one partner but not receiving pleasure from the same sexual act with another partner?	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/19 10:32 PM
1	CMV: Any man with an ounce of self respect should say NO to marriage, in any kind of LTR (even if he wants kids). A woman who really loves and respects her man, shouldn't even care about marriage. I think your argument may be predicated on the requirement that the man be the higher earner in the marriage. I can concede that courts often favor women for child custody (although in my anecdotal experience most ex-husbands who wants custody in a divorce...the former wife is happy to share it). I can also concede that all else being equal, women tend to get more favorable alimony awarded than a man might (although this is rapidly shifting). That being said, I’m a stay at home Dad. I gave up my…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/12/19 01:06 AM
3	Virgins and low n count women are harder to please sexually Hahhaha, apparently my wife doesn’t exist either and is ALSO either 1) lying or 2) fooling herself. 🤷🏼‍♂️	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/19 02:40 AM
4	Virgins and low n count women are harder to please sexually I’m with you on this. Yeah this idea of it not being possible is laughable to me. My wife has vaginal orgasms ALL THE TIME. It’s also scientifically proven that women DO NOT need clitoral stimulation to orgasm. A very simple and widely known example of this is the “wet dream”. Basically if someone can orgasm in their sleep with no physical stimulation, then it seems logical that it doesn’t take clitoral stimulation to orgasm. There are other ways. Lol.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/19 02:39 AM
2	Virgins and low n count women are harder to please sexually I have a very very low sample size, but I think this may be dependent on 1) age of the virgin at the beginning of the relationship and 2) the upbringing of the virgin.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/19 01:44 AM
0	Virgins and low n count women are harder to please sexually Lol okay!	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/19 01:35 AM
1	Virgins and low n count women are harder to please sexually I don’t know that there needs to be physiological support. I’m pretty sure the mind alone can cause an orgasm. The “wet dream” is an example of this. I know I’m just one dude on the internet but my wife absolutely has PIV orgasms (and other types of orgasms) and has no reason to lie. I don’t think she’s ever lied to me about anything sexual related....like ever. So, I know it’s just anecdotal but in my experience it is possible. Where are you getting the info that it isn’t possible?	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/19 01:05 AM
1	Virgins and low n count women are harder to please sexually Wait, are you implying that no women are capable of PIV orgasms? Maybe I’m misunderstanding.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/19 12:46 AM