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| – | Expecting Men to Pay for First Dates Is Entitlementstop being broke as hell | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 03:05 PM |
| 0 | Is an average woman dating an average man considered "settling?"lying is not going to prevent you from getting a relationship because the world does not inherently reward moral behavior | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/26 04:39 PM |
| 0 | Is an average woman dating an average man considered "settling?"doioioioioi. Just world is a fallacy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/26 04:10 PM |
| 1 | Dating offline is honestly worse than online dating for most Gen Z men who want to date Gen Z womenIt’s better to succeed in your 30s than not at all, absolutely. The men who had no success will be very happy, but those men didn’t have that negative experience for no reason. However, there are very few women living the sex lives of monks in their 20s, will they be happy pairing with those men whose flaws kept them from having success in their 20s? And those who did have success in their 20s will be the most capable of overlooking those women in their 30s to gun for women in general alpha. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/26 03:48 PM |
| 9 | Is an average woman dating an average man considered "settling?"there is no way to tell if someone is just acting chivalrous or just acting desirous if they do a good job of acting, same thing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/26 10:01 PM |
| 1 | Dating offline is honestly worse than online dating for most Gen Z men who want to date Gen Z womenOf course men aren’t exclusively interested in young women. As a man I’d say there’s a big difference between staying with your partner and looking for your partner, and I’m not optimistic that everything’s going to work out for Gen Z in their 30s, men or women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 04:48 PM |
| 1 | Dating offline is honestly worse than online dating for most Gen Z men who want to date Gen Z womenOf course, the chart is not meant to show something about the particular preferences of men in a certain generation, but that men’s preferences are consistent. In earlier generations, couples paired off earlier, when their age preferences were more aligned, now when both sexes are unpaired in their 30s, whether that’s due to an economic slump like you said or any other reason, the Gen Z men will be gunning for Gen Alpha. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 04:15 PM |
| 1 | If you haven’t dated in the last 10-15 yrs you shouldn’t be giving dating adviceEvery social media app is a dating site, be an attractive woman, have an instagram, and you’ll have men lining up. The ones who aren’t on apps specifically for dating are often not on them because they don’t need to be. Nobody is a luddite. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 02:12 PM |
| 1 | If you haven’t dated in the last 10-15 yrs you shouldn’t be giving dating adviceRedpillers and looksmaxxers are the ones actually telling them to do the work and they’re doing more work than ever. Redpillers are telling you to shoot volume and go out in person and work on your money and mouthpiece, looksmaxxers are telling you to work out and dress and do skincare routines, with scientific precision. Gen Z men are doing this more than ever, way more than any previous generations, the competition is thicker than ever, and oldheads think you’ll get chosen if you talk to someo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 02:08 PM |
| 1 | If you haven’t dated in the last 10-15 yrs you shouldn’t be giving dating adviceif you’re using safari on an iphone click the box and lines to the left of the url at the top, go to the 3 dots in the bottom right and request desktop site. Also I use old reddit so I can still change mine on mobile. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 01:06 PM |
| 1 | If you haven’t dated in the last 10-15 yrs you shouldn’t be giving dating advicecan’t figure out reddit flairs? what age are you gonna put there, 75? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 12:59 PM |
| 1 | If you haven’t dated in the last 10-15 yrs you shouldn’t be giving dating adviceToday you just need enough money to take care of yourself and unless you have a crazy amount on top of that it doesn’t mean much. In the past we had some lagging cultural attitudes from that time in the 70s when women couldn’t even get their own credit cards that have worn off, nobody today will sacrifice having physical attraction in their life to pair off for money when they can provide for themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 12:55 PM |
| 1 | If you haven’t dated in the last 10-15 yrs you shouldn’t be giving dating adviceWe had some lagging cultural attitudes from that time in the 70s when women couldn’t even get their own credit cards that have worn off, nobody today will sacrifice having physical attraction in their life to pair off for money when they can provide for themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 12:53 PM |
| 1 | If you haven’t dated in the last 10-15 yrs you shouldn’t be giving dating adviceYes of course, there’s no magic word combo that turns unattractive attractive, I know there’s nothing a woman I’m not physically attracted to could say to me to suddenly fix that issue. You can’t really sell someone better looks unless you’re a plastic surgeon, but people don’t want to accept that something nearly unchangeable is the limiting factor for their happiness, so pickup mfs come to step in and tell them otherwise to sell them a scam. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 12:50 PM |
| 1 | If you haven’t dated in the last 10-15 yrs you shouldn’t be giving dating adviceAbsolutely insane to think most men, especially the men complaining, aren’t asking girls out. Anyone who isn’t on my side of the debate must just be some idiotic self sabotager who never even tried, it’s like assuming someone who says they cant find a job and wants one has never applied. Crazy what people will trick themselves into believing so they can dismiss something that doesn’t fit their worldview. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 12:47 PM |
| 1 | If you haven’t dated in the last 10-15 yrs you shouldn’t be giving dating adviceNo they don’t, people think the way someone posts on some anonymous dating grievance board has anything to do with real life, people are going to put their best foot forward, they’re not stupid. At worst maybe someone will say something like that post-rejection, when it’s irrelevant, they’ve already been rejected, and even then I don’t think they are. Bluepillers just assume you must be the most autistic chud in the world if you don’t spend your time on this anonymous relationship debate board p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 12:43 PM |
| 1 | If you haven’t dated in the last 10-15 yrs you shouldn’t be giving dating adviceSuch a boomer take like “people don’t know how to advertise today, why aren’t people twirling signs outside anymore!” Technology has scaled things up, through apps and social media men are shooting tons more volume than any guy ‘walking around making things happen’ ever has or could. And in terms of ‘physical work’ gen z men are obsessed with looks and the gym and grinding for money, there’s just no reason to put that physical work into standing around approaching random women with their earbuds… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 12:34 PM |
| 4 | Dating offline is honestly worse than online dating for most Gen Z men who want to date Gen Z womenIf you’re the best they can do they will very likely want you long term, that’s simply incentives, I don’t need to explain it again. I think most men would rather settle for someone than be alone, yes. We are products of evolution, meant to survive and reproduce, your entire biology and psychology, derived from that same biology, is oriented toward achieving those goals. For men and women, things are different. For women, reproducing with the wrong man jeopardizes survival, for men, not so much,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 04:10 AM |
| 3 | Dating offline is honestly worse than online dating for most Gen Z men who want to date Gen Z womenI don’t disagree with anything you said in the first paragraph. People would rather hold out for what they want, then they get older and older, less and less attractive, less qualified for what it is they want, and end up with no one. Nobody said anything about good guys. You might think me saying that dating down = long term is me saying ugly guys = good guys? That’s just a matter of incentives. If there’s a lucky vacancy at your company and you end up filling in and getting promoted to a bette… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 02:15 AM |
| 1 | Dating offline is honestly worse than online dating for most Gen Z men who want to date Gen Z womenBeing rich doesn’t mean much at all in cold approach. I know many gen z men who would considered successful or say they are successful in cold approach, and the key is aiming down, they do it naturally, they’re just not picky. In this day and age, people’s options aren’t restricted to their local area or social circle, nobody sells themselves short. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 02:10 AM |
| 1 | Dating offline is honestly worse than online dating for most Gen Z men who want to date Gen Z womenwhy rot, just skip to the end | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 02:07 AM |
| 1 | Dating offline is honestly worse than online dating for most Gen Z men who want to date Gen Z womenMen get put in their place by reality, women can chase the fantasy of getting a 6+ because men in that tier will entertain them for a night to get laid. It’s their expectations that never come down and result in people not pairing with their looksmatch. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 01:52 AM |
| 1 | Dating offline is honestly worse than online dating for most Gen Z men who want to date Gen Z womenooh your time was 20 years ago now your posts make sense lmfao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 01:51 AM |
| 6 | Dating offline is honestly worse than online dating for most Gen Z men who want to date Gen Z womenYou’re going to find men who want casual when you aim up and men who want long term when you aim down, women get disillusioned with the apps because they realize they can’t get better than their looksmatch, low smv men get disillusioned with the apps when they realize they can’t get anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 01:50 AM |
| 1 | Dating offline is honestly worse than online dating for most Gen Z men who want to date Gen Z womenThat’d be no consolation for men. I think it’s fairly likely that Gen Z women in their 30s will want that, but Gen Z men will be gunning for Gen Alpha. https://imgur.com/a/NVlJueg | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 01:43 AM |
| 1 | Dating offline is honestly worse than online dating for most Gen Z men who want to date Gen Z womenGuys only doing that with a girl he himself doesn’t want | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 01:29 AM |
| 1 | Dating offline is honestly worse than online dating for most Gen Z men who want to date Gen Z womenIt’s the women who aren’t interested in pairing up, they’re going career focused and spending money on experiences like traveling while guys try to buy cars and clothes and spend their time in the gym to attract women their age who don’t want to settle down with anyone, make their adventures less fun and slow down their careers with a kid | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 01:26 AM |
| 1 | Dating offline is honestly worse than online dating for most Gen Z men who want to date Gen Z womenwhy should they settle for anything else from a long term relationship when it just means boxing themselves out from having casual relationships with guys like that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 01:08 AM |
| 7 | Dating offline is honestly worse than online dating for most Gen Z men who want to date Gen Z womenWhen the source of your dissatisfaction isn’t lack of friends or lack of hobbies you’ll realize you wasted your time | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 01:07 AM |
| 2 | Dating offline is honestly worse than online dating for most Gen Z men who want to date Gen Z womenAs long as you’re neurotypical playing numbers isn’t a bad idea if you’re willing to put in the time and deal with the rejection. Still, if your standards are out of wack you’re overwhelmingly likely to get nowhere because in this age where everyone has lots of options, unlike in the past where you were confined to a much more restricted set of options, nobody is going to sell themselves short. Provided your standards are where they should be I think you’ll get to the same place with less time s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 12:20 AM |
| 1 | Women who call themselves "baddie" are just as cringe, if not more cringe, than men who call themselves "alpha".If bonobos act a certain way is irrelevant to the fact that many species do organize themselves around single males that dominate reproduction, just as whether wolves act or don’t act a certain way is irrelevant. ‘Alphas’ have not been le epically reddit deboonked. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 11:57 PM |
| 2 | Dating offline is honestly worse than online dating for most Gen Z men who want to date Gen Z womenthe idea of going to “hobby groups” to find people seems to me the kind of thing losers with no friends do, or who are desperate as fuck. I couldn’t figure out why people on this board had the weirdest stories and takes until I remembered that this is reddit and we’re debating a bunch of ugly freak losers on relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 11:32 PM |
| 5 | Dating offline is honestly worse than online dating for most Gen Z men who want to date Gen Z womenPeople don’t say what makes them look bad or shallow, most people are socially normal, and still by all reports cold approach results are awful. Sensible and decent conversationalist is code for in my league and decent looking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 09:38 PM |
| 4 | Study finds strong correlation (r ≈ 0.81) between gender equality and low birth rates: Female emancipation enables hypergamous mating that makes average men obsolete (Larsen et al., 2026)men were scarce after everyone died in ww2 | /r/BlackPillScience | 04/06/26 06:40 PM |
| 1 | Women who call themselves "baddie" are just as cringe, if not more cringe, than men who call themselves "alpha".Who cares about wolves, chimps, a much closer relative, do organize themselves around a dominant male who does the majority of reproduction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 03:22 PM |
| 0 | Women who call themselves "baddie" are just as cringe, if not more cringe, than men who call themselves "alpha".Who cares about wolves, chimps, a much closer relative, do organize themselves around a dominant male who does the majority of reproduction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 03:21 PM |
| 9 | Women who call themselves "baddie" are just as cringe, if not more cringe, than men who call themselves "alpha".Who cares about wolves, chimps, a much closer relative, do organize themselves around a dominant male who does the majority of reproduction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 03:20 PM |
| 5 | Many men on Reddit who seek long-term relationships claim that OLD is not working out for them (barely any likes, matches or dates), many women on Reddit who seek the same thing claim that there are almost no good men to choose from (most matches seek casual sex, are incompatible or creepy)attractive men who are interested in long term are off the apps fast, attractive men who are interested in casual are matching with new women every day | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 08:41 PM |
| 1 | Redpill guys will do anything to get women except being respectful to women.This is the starting strategy, what every guy hears from their mother that gets them nowhere. Your post is self contradictory, act with ‘basic human decency’, don’t expect a reward - but it will get you women. lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 01:56 PM |
| 1 | Am I wrong for thinking the chase is stupid?If the women you like aren’t very interested in you, even after the gym, money, style, etc, what other option do you have? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 01:46 PM |
| 2 | Do you think women are partnering with men less because they are being influenced/brainwashed my feminism now. Or do you think the reason women overwhelmingly partnered with men in the past was because they were influenced/brainwashed by traditional culture?“Culture” is weak compared to incentives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/26 04:09 PM |
| 4 | LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADWomen are saying what they want, handsome face, tall guy, good money, good physique, good social skills, there’s really men like that, it’s understandable to want, just not enough to go around. What you wrote is just creepy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/26 09:51 PM |
| 1 | If you are not willing to adapt to the dating market, your complaints about dating is unreasonable.Pretty much every man I know works on their looks, career, everything just for women, if they could get away with being unemployed scratching their balls on the couch all day and get women that would be preferable to all the bullshit they have to do. Now looksmaxxing which is changing yourself for women is going viral. And most women don’t want a ‘beta male’ at all, the ‘nice guy’ is getting shit on constantly. Hard to believe this is our board’s mod posting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/26 09:49 PM |
| 8 | LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADthis could be a good point but then you go on to describe a child? bruh wtf is wrong with you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/26 09:45 PM |
| 7 | LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADsuch a weak ego that they can’t step back and view themselves objectively | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/26 09:11 PM |
| 6 | Men need to start leaving women alone.Google tragedy of the commons | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/26 01:14 PM |
| – | Women are attracted to assholes and players so they’re the only ones to blame for their outcomesThis is wrong because it’s not being a player or an asshole that makes you attractive, it’s being attractive and having the options and halo effect that makes you be a player and an asshole, so it’s actually attractive men’s fault. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 05:11 PM |
| -1 | Q4M: What women-focused media to you engage with?Reading fiction and consuming media is a waste of time | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 08:40 PM |
| 3 | N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADif you’re asking this you’re for the streets xd | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 08:37 PM |
| 4 | Men often look for a stable relationship in order to have a regular sex life.why do you deliberately ignore looks in your long explanation of why many men can’t get a bunch of partners? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 05:24 PM |
| 1 | MEN ONLY: Do all men cheat?I would never cheat, as a principle, but that’s why I won’t and haven’t gotten into a relationship, because the only way I can know I wouldn’t cheat is if I don’t compromise and take one of my less preferred options just because I can. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/26 09:53 AM |
| 1 | MEN ONLY: Do all men cheat?but what for those men for whom generating interest takes 0 effort | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/26 09:50 AM |
| 0 | MEN ONLY: Do all men cheat?it’s just an incentive thing, a poor person takes great care of a $200 pair of shoes, a rich person does not need to | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/26 09:26 AM |
| 0 | Wanting female treatment while not doing what women do is stupid.Post is basically just be low T, men aren’t less agreeable, more likely to commit crimes, for no reason. Therapy is a giant waste of time, work on yourself, get what you want, there’s nothing to talk about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/26 06:23 PM |
| – | Chores are survival skills not gender rolesI would never even take a girl to my place if it wasn’t clean af, I gotta cook all my own shit to keep my diet peak for a good physique, machines do my laundry and dishes. If you don’t take care of these things you are a manchild. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/26 09:41 PM |
| 1 | LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADlooksmaxxers say light hair for men isn’t superior so they didn’t just copy the nazis homework | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/26 03:09 PM |
| 1 | Men don't understand that not only women compare them with each other, but they also have fixed standards.nobody is saying they insult women either, you just think that what people post anonymously on the internet reflects their real world behavior when everyone knows it actually doesn’t, that’s the fucking point of internet anonymity | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/26 02:02 PM |
| 4 | Most young women are dating the same set of terrible menHumans are animals, that’s the truth, but being a good person is when you use polite language and say socially acceptable thing… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/26 03:06 PM |
| 2 | LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADbecause one side’s ideology is basically “be nice” and the other side’s is “be realistic” + an alliance with the religious because realistic people are outnumbered lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/26 11:39 PM |
| 2 | Being wanted is better than being neededno, it’s pretty obvious and doesn’t need that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/26 03:06 PM |
| 4 | Being wanted is better than being neededyou got em!! youll never find men telling each other to self improve, never ever. and it has a 100% success rate, are they stupid?? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/26 02:50 PM |
| 2 | Sex isn't a "need". Men just want to have sex because it'll give them status among other men.shits middle school biology, organisms fill a niche and reproduce, you just happen to have enough brain matter to try to think yourself into pretzels out of it if you want. Be my guest | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/26 02:47 PM |
| 3 | We need to stop the contradictions/gaslighting towards menif youre going with women your age as you get old, it’s their standards going down | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/26 02:35 PM |
| 1 | Did you learn and use certain strategies for dating?That just is why every biological organism exists, any biological organism that didn’t exist to reproduce didn’t lead to your existence, billions of years of reproducing organisms did. Organisms fill a niche and reproduce, that’s middle school biology, you just happen to have a lot of brain matter to try to think yourself out of it if you want to, but that’s the biology. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/26 02:03 PM |
| 1 | Did you learn and use certain strategies for dating?Everything else is just a distraction, leaves you regretting being complacent for that time instead of pursuing your purpose. Humans like any other animal are a vehicle for replicating genes that happens to fill a particular niche, that is all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/26 01:49 PM |
| 1 | Did you learn and use certain strategies for dating?different environments, warm approach, cold approach, trying change my mouthpiece in all sorts of different ways, dressing differently, all the big standard self improvement suggestions, different kinds of app photos and paying or not paying, wingmen, social proof in general, persistence, physical touch, making sexual advances, not doing that, why would you not try all of these things if nothing is working, and you tried “be yourself” for about a decade? It’s almost insulting that someone would … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/26 01:40 PM |
| 1 | Did you learn and use certain strategies for dating?It means if you’re failing, and the common factor in all the interactions is you, you’ve got to change, and you’re changing with a goal in mind, so the changes you make are going to look like a ‘strategy’. I’ve used all sorts of strategies, except for lowering my standards, so nothing has worked, and I feel quite defeated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/26 01:29 PM |
| 1 | Women's preferences make senseyou don’t live in the evolutionary environment, obviously, it’s theorizing about why you inherently find those ‘long’ things attractive | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/26 01:27 PM |
| 3 | Women's preferences make senseif you’re not among the most beautiful, man or woman, you end up settling, or alone. That’s reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/26 01:23 PM |
| 1 | Women's preferences make senseI don’t think he’s speaking to whether or not such an arrangement is possible, he’s speaking to if the excluded men will peacefully accept such an arrangement. That’s just a fantasy though, the force multipliers available in modernity to the powers that be are too powerful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/26 01:19 PM |
| 1 | Did you learn and use certain strategies for dating?Once being yourself hasn’t worked for long enough that it’s strange, everyone’s asking if you’re gay or something, even though you’re trying to put yourself out there, you’ve got to change something. This stuff doesn’t just fall into men’s laps. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/26 01:16 PM |
| 5 | LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADnot at all. Becoming a mass monster naturally if it were even possible takes like 5 years if your genetics are good for muscle growth, 10 if you’re average, impossible for many | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/26 09:10 AM |
| – | No woman who likes you is gonna make you wait or play “hard to get”yes, the involuntary celibate who has sex on the first date. this checks out | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/26 12:28 AM |
| 2 | Sex isn't a "need". Men just want to have sex because it'll give them status among other men.it just is the purpose of a biological life form, that’s evolution. not everyone gets to succeed, thats evolution also | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/26 12:21 AM |
| 2 | Sex isn't a "need". Men just want to have sex because it'll give them status among other men.it’s not about what makes you cease existing, it’s about why you exist in the first place | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/26 12:17 AM |
| 2 | Sex isn't a "need". Men just want to have sex because it'll give them status among other men.the only reason the first three behaviors happen is in support of reproduction, humans, like any other animal, are a vehicle for replicating genes that happens to fill a particular niche, that is all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/26 12:11 AM |
| 1 | Sex isn't a "need". Men just want to have sex because it'll give them status among other men.eating, sleeping, pooping, are all just behaviors in support of reproduction, humans are a vehicle for replicating genes that happens to fill a particular niche, that is all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/26 12:10 AM |
| 1 | What *specific* social missteps are common among romantically struggling men?Will you win someone over any way, from politeness and tolerance? I think not, and there’s no value to warm approach, but many disagree. If it’s clear, enthusiastic, and consistent, you’ll know from the very start. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/26 11:31 PM |
| -4 | Yes, some women actually want to be single and childlessWanting to be a hoe isn’t exactly wanting to be single. Most men would rather be a manhoe too, just isn’t in the cards, not as easy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/26 11:52 AM |
| 1 | 2 core problems with modern dating: no more clear rules, and expecting immediate “magic” attraction.testosterone is a different beast | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/26 03:30 AM |
| – | LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADIt’s a truth nuke. But what you don’t mention or possibly don’t realize is that we had enforced monogamy for millennia, we are the collapsed genetic quality population, most of us aren’t adapted to the return of brutal darwinism, and are not gonna be happy about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/26 10:34 PM |
| – | LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADwithout legally constraining them we can’t expect anyone to act in any way but in their own interest. I think it would harder to convince men that easy casual sex is not in their interest, than it would be to convince women of that, considering women are complaining about men who just use them for sex, and men that get easy casual sex are not complaining about it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/26 10:30 PM |
| – | LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADmaybe it benefitted everyone more? If women can really be attracted to money and status, and not just looks, then everyone was just more attractive as a partner, as women becoming career competition for men and getting their own incomes doesn’t really make them more desirable partners for men, but it does drive up the labor supply and hence down compensation and provide more competition for high status roles that men could have increasing their attractiveness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/26 10:23 PM |
| – | LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADNot all of us, just on aggregate. I relate much more to women’s dating issues, a lot of options that I don’t like. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/26 10:13 PM |
| – | LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADWhen you experience something, you don’t need a study, all the men living it are taking it very seriously. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/26 09:54 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Most guys don’t fail in dating because of looks or status.. They fail because they don’t understand banter.so you disagree with the OP? no need to banter? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/26 09:45 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Most guys don’t fail in dating because of looks or status.. They fail because they don’t understand banter.Without a foot in the door, you’re locked out. Looks is absolutely the most important thing, and what you’re saying about looks only backs that up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/26 09:31 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Most guys don’t fail in dating because of looks or status.. They fail because they don’t understand banter.looks is what decides your range of options as you said, if you don’t hit looks you don’t even get to show the rest of what you got. You agree with blackpillers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/26 09:30 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Most guys don’t fail in dating because of looks or status.. They fail because they don’t understand banter.we were raised on harvey weinstein media | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/26 09:18 PM |
| 0 | LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADWell that wasn’t the point of the last sentence. Men can try nichemaxxing for sure, it helps if they can actually give a shit about one of those styles or hobbies or whatever it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/26 08:20 PM |
| 1 | [Q4W] Do women recognize the “selection pressure” men feel in dating, and how it relates to male loneliness?Nobody is a collectivist anymore, and the state and elites have such power multipliers that a large determined group of men can no longer present a threat to overthrow the social order. It’s over my friend. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/26 08:18 PM |
| 2 | [Q4W] Do women recognize the “selection pressure” men feel in dating, and how it relates to male loneliness?Do you recognize some women have no access to the only men they find desirable? They may have access to men who they don’t want, but to women that often isn’t better. my question is if status and money matter alongside looks, did taking away men’s disproportionate status and wealth in comparison to women make it so that a vanishingly small amount of men are attractive? Or is looks the only thing that always mattered, and the women of the past had to settle? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/26 07:43 PM |
| 1 | [Q4W] Do women recognize the “selection pressure” men feel in dating, and how it relates to male loneliness?The nature of sex means that women are more selective and more women than men will have the opportunity to mate. It isn't supposed to be easy or guaranteed that a man will find a partner. That's been the case for all human history. The only way to combat it would be infringing on the choice and freedom of women except for the parts where they did do that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/26 07:27 PM |
| 1 | [Q4W] Do women recognize the “selection pressure” men feel in dating, and how it relates to male loneliness?if your celibacy is involuntary, that answers the question. the baggage of the term isn’t the definition. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/26 06:58 PM |
| 1 | [Q4W] Do women recognize the “selection pressure” men feel in dating, and how it relates to male loneliness?You need to stop the nitpicking of the language, it should be pretty clear that these euphemisms like loneliness are used because men don’t want to label themselves as virgins or losers or whatever their bullies essentially call them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/26 06:52 PM |
| 1 | [Q4W] Do women recognize the “selection pressure” men feel in dating, and how it relates to male loneliness?easy for someone who’s blood isn’t coursing with testosterone to say | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/26 06:43 PM |
| 1 | [Q4W] Do women recognize the “selection pressure” men feel in dating, and how it relates to male loneliness?That is the reality of war, tons of men dying, and why societies have been organized along the lines of conscripting the men for battle and not the women. In iterated wars, one group that conscripts men will out populate the other that sends to battle and loses fertile women and win the conflict overall. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/26 06:35 PM |
| 1 | [Q4W] Do women recognize the “selection pressure” men feel in dating, and how it relates to male loneliness?It literally has market value, you could essentially sell it if you wanted, for much more than the male equivalent. So much is made of “objectification” that you can’t discuss things objectively anymore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/26 06:33 PM |
| 1 | [Q4W] Do women recognize the “selection pressure” men feel in dating, and how it relates to male loneliness?trying to make it ‘politics’ is a big cope fitness, sexual dimorphism and facial symmetry etc etc aren’t political issues, they’re biological realities. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/26 06:30 PM |
| 2 | LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADThere’s no point in a romantic relationship with someone whose looks you don’t like, and if you can’t attract anyone that crosses that barrier for you, of course that’s your focus. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/26 05:37 PM |
| 1 | LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADBasically. The only other path to compensate with $$ is getting narrower and narrower | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/26 05:35 PM |
| 3 | LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADin my health class about 15 years ago I was told that anorexia is the result of barbie dolls and magazines and basically society, and that we needed to reject such things more or less. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/26 05:29 PM |
| 1 | LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADbe better looking than the woman is just brutal I guess if men here are serious about their attracted to most women shit it’s fine for them. I don’t experience that at all, a woman I’ll actually be excited about, able to show interest without putting on some weird lie act that makes me feel horrible, and bother to respond to the texts of or something is like 1 in 50 in a bar or something maybe 1 in 100 swiping. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/26 05:17 PM |
| 2 | LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADEveryone has to work a job and is competing in capitalism, you need to be in the top percentage of competence in order to come up from any normal upbringing to an amount of wealth that moves the needle for women who can now take care of themselves financially to date down in looks. IQ is a real thing, physical health can be a barrier, and you need good luck, not everyone has the ability to become rich. Everyone can go to the gym, everyone could buy shoe lifts, low barrier to entry, much more rea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/26 05:00 PM |
| 1 | LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD“I don't believe that scores of adolescent and young adult men were "told to be mindful of their preferences" and then acted like dutiful respectful amazing choirboys and young men as a result, being forever appreciative of various body types and never once shaming women for their natural state.” The second part doesn’t follow from the first, none of the societal bullshit can change biological preference for fitness, symmetry, sexual dimorphism, etc. But they did guilt trip people for it, I supp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/26 04:50 PM |
| 1 | LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADI remember being taught in high school health class in either 2010 or 2011 depending on the time of the school year it was that anorexia comes from barbies and magazines, I asked why I’m not on steroids because of he-man which was some boomer argument I stole from the internet because I never watched he-man or had a doll of him. Anyway the teacher told me the same thing wasn’t true about men and that they weren’t expected to have a certain body type. Health teacher was a fat woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/26 04:36 PM |
| 2 | LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADI can’t change society, they think it’s unmanly which is not attractive. That’s the culture. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/26 01:15 PM |
| 1 | LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADYes kind of, although most people make fun of it even among looksmaxxers. They’re basically taking the logic that exercise and repeated impacts like running increase your bone density, so they are trying to get that to happen to their face so they can get the ‘few millimeters of bone’ to become more handsome. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/26 05:00 PM |
| 2 | LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADwomen who are good at makeup notice though. I find even concealer on a pimple will get noticed | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/26 04:57 PM |
| 1 | If men were to focus more on women's personalities and character than looks, women would have alot less options.the difference in criteria for a romantic relationship and a friendship is having sex, yes | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/26 08:51 PM |
| 1 | Politically Misogynist Men Should Just Move to Theocratic CountriesThere’s a ton of religious values I don’t agree with, they’re based on nothing rational. Iran and Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia (none of which I think are actually that realistic to emigrate to due to either geopolitical hostility to the West or restrictive citizenship policies) and quite a few others have the death penalty for apostasy, the Amish have The Ban, so it’s not worth living a lie and getting killed or exiled when I get found out no | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/26 08:49 PM |
| 1 | If men were to focus more on women's personalities and character than looks, women would have alot less options.I’d be completely miserable if I put myself in a relationship with a woman I’m not attracted to as well. At least in the one situation I’m completely miserable but not miserable when I can have sex I enjoy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/26 06:29 PM |
| 2 | If men were to focus more on women's personalities and character than looks, women would have alot less options.I’m not talking about friendships. It’s closer to 90% looks because I’m not ever even getting into a romantic relationship with someone I don’t like the looks of. What I’m saying is even if they were perfectly compatible with me in every other way besides physical attractiveness, that would just make them the perfect friend, not a partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/26 04:58 PM |
| 1 | LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADWhy is it even about eschewing those other factors - younger women are just more attractive, hence more options. She could bag a richer, better personality, whatever guy at 25 than 35 if that’s what she wants. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/26 04:53 PM |
| 2 | If men were to focus more on women's personalities and character than looks, women would have alot less options.Looks is the prerequisite to the relationship, much more like 90% than 10%, if I’m not physically attracted to you, you could have the perfect personality, you’re a friend - not who I want to be in a relationship with. The difference between the person who is your partner and the people who are just your friends is the physical intimacy, which requires physical attraction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/26 04:28 PM |
| 1 | Women are too willing to lie about their pasts when datingAll the women who say if this question gets asked they break up, why don’t you have a relationship history you can be proud of? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/26 04:24 PM |
| 1 | Politically Misogynist Men Should Just Move to Theocratic Countriesbut god isn’t real | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/26 03:43 PM |
| – | One’s overall desirability among the gender(s) which they are attracted to (especially among their preferred prospective partners) heavily influences one’s standards in sex, dating, and relationshipsI have high standards that prevent me from getting sex, dates very often, and relationships, because my overall desirability is not a factor in them, they are simply what I am attracted to. I think that isn’t very uncommon at all, there’s lots of women and men who won’t settle. I personally can’t understand someone who drops their standards because of lack of success, I don’t feel like I made up my standards or that they were culturally imprinted from elsewhere - it’s a physical reaction. So, I … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/26 01:20 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Most guys don’t fail in dating because of looks or status.. They fail because they don’t understand banter.I think the standardscel is very very common but I don’t think that’s generally where this argument comes from, that’s pretty obviously an internal problem nobody has any issue blaming the man for. The guy doesn’t say he’s above average, he says he’s tried his best to improve, taken the reccommended actions regarding weight and fitness, career focus, fashion, etc. He says even then, he gets no interest. That stuff doesn’t actually inherently make you above average, it’s not the same thing. The b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/26 07:29 PM |
| 5 | CMV: Most guys don’t fail in dating because of looks or status.. They fail because they don’t understand banter.I think people did know, it just wasn’t socially acceptable to say, but now the rise of black pill rhetoric has forced the other pills from their motte of the bluepillers who insist that inceldom = bad personality (by which they often mean politics/political or cultural implications of their complaints I disagree with) and and the redpillers who insist they can teach anyone to pull if they just buy their course to the bailey that of course looks matter, but still fuck you take that shit to the m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/26 05:06 PM |
| 9 | CMV: Most guys don’t fail in dating because of looks or status.. They fail because they don’t understand banter.I’ve been posting on the subreddit for many years and this is absolutely a recent evolution, at least post 2020 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/26 02:53 PM |
| 2 | CMV: "meeting women IRL" doesn’t magically bypass women’s standards in 2026 and people should stop acting like it doesI don’t really know what the right course of action is for women, they can choose whatever strategy they want, but people respond to incentives, you’re not going to want to sell your home for a below market value, nobody wants to have sold themselves short on the relationship market. Including the women. Even if I think it is true that a less attractive man will treat them better, I know I wouldn’t sell myself short for that - I have the same exact option to date a chick below my league for the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/26 05:47 PM |
| 2 | CMV: "meeting women IRL" doesn’t magically bypass women’s standards in 2026 and people should stop acting like it doesI would totally disagree, I have not experienced my attraction to be like that, it’s consistently towards the most conventionally attractive women, IRL or online. I have often had the thought “I wish this girl I get along with/have a lot in common with were more attractive”, and never the experience of someone growing on me. What you can get away with and what options you have are absolutely an aspect of how people learn to behave, and people that are attractive get away with a lot (you yourself… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/26 05:20 PM |
| 5 | CMV: "meeting women IRL" doesn’t magically bypass women’s standards in 2026 and people should stop acting like it doesI think both parties are looking for looks first and foremost, if they don’t match your looks standards they can be your best friend with amazing chemistry but you still won’t be attracted to them. The usual complaint is something like men are forced into realistic standards by scarcity while women’s standards are elevated by false abundance of high quality men that don’t have true interest. Those men are at fault, but they can’t be expected to act any way but in their self interest. One might a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/26 05:02 PM |
| 1 | CMV: "meeting women IRL" doesn’t magically bypass women’s standards in 2026 and people should stop acting like it doesYou didn’t make the analogy, you took the analogy literally. The poster you responded to made an analogy to the housing market. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/26 04:25 PM |
| 5 | CMV: "meeting women IRL" doesn’t magically bypass women’s standards in 2026 and people should stop acting like it doesI literally have the thought they’re saying. Some girl comes up to me and starts talking to me at a bar, I think, I match with better lookin girls all the time. I start to have a good conversation with a really good looking girl, I think, damn I never match with a girl this fine. The reason I intentionally go out and approach people IRL is to try to bypass their supposed inflated online dating standards basically, so why would I not think this. Although I actually agree with the OP, doesn’t real… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/26 09:02 AM |
| 1 | CMV: "meeting women IRL" doesn’t magically bypass women’s standards in 2026 and people should stop acting like it doesWhere did this guy disparage women or call them snakes. He said proximity doesn’t inherently create more attraction compared to matching on a dating app. Is that some kind of accusation of moral failing? I’m a man and I would agree with that about a woman, I don’t care if I see you in person first or on an app first. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/26 08:55 AM |
| – | CMV: "meeting women IRL" doesn’t magically bypass women’s standards in 2026 and people should stop acting like it doesOn the aggregate people work like homo economicus, thats why economics works, people make decisions that dont align with incentives only rarely. Occasionally someone will sell something way below market price but you’re a fool to rely on that rather than the overwhelming pattern of people responding to the incentives and getting the best sale price they can. Last paragraph is real shit though | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/26 08:41 AM |
| 3 | CMV: "meeting women IRL" doesn’t magically bypass women’s standards in 2026 and people should stop acting like it doesYou have some kind of latent leftist or christian hangup pick your poison about markets being a bad thing or objectifying or something, no, it’s just how humans work, they respond to incentives. Economics is just the study of human action. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/26 08:32 AM |
| 8 | CMV: "meeting women IRL" doesn’t magically bypass women’s standards in 2026 and people should stop acting like it doesholy shit you’re a genius I didn’t know that. bluepillers when analogy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/26 08:30 AM |
| 3 | CMV: "meeting women IRL" doesn’t magically bypass women’s standards in 2026 and people should stop acting like it doesI believe he’s saying the person lying would be the man, to two+ women, that think they are in a (exclusive) relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/26 08:27 AM |
| 5 | CMV: "meeting women IRL" doesn’t magically bypass women’s standards in 2026 and people should stop acting like it doesThe other people, including the women, trying to meet someone IRL? They’re also hoping their personality is going to win over someone out of their online dating league. That’s what it seems like is happening to me in bar environments, lower tier men trying to jester to women out of their league while those same women are there trying to bag Chad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/26 08:23 AM |
| 1 | A lot of men would rather be with a woman who they know is using them than be single.for the last couple thousand years at least, this was called marriage | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/26 02:14 AM |
| – | A lot of men would rather be with a woman who they know is using them than be single.I am a picky monogamous atheist man, maybe you can relate, but yeah no interest in church. The ones who do OLD in the way you are describing, going for fat chicks they’re not interested in long-term, are religious? Because my stereotype about the religious would be that they’re dating for marriage, so would they date a woman they wouldn’t marry to get some action? I’m not even religious and that’s against my morals. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 05:56 PM |
| 3 | A lot of men would rather be with a woman who they know is using them than be single.she’s not a prostitute shes exclusive to you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 05:35 PM |
| – | A lot of men would rather be with a woman who they know is using them than be single.I do not find IRL environments to be easier at all, I live on a bar street in a major American city and go out all the time but get more success on apps. Other kinds of hobby environments or whatever are too low volume, there’s not a significant concentration of attractive girls in any hobby that my male brain is able to get interested in to be able to shoot enough volume to get any success. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 05:19 PM |
| 2 | The Blue/Red pill is dead to Gen Z.Average Redditor: WHAT STUDIES PROVE THAT??? SOURCE??? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 04:18 PM |
| 1 | The Blue/Red pill is dead to Gen Z.completely wrong RP has always been sexual strategy, how to get laid not how to be alone. Thats MGTOW. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 04:17 PM |
| 1 | If you have to spend more than a lot on a date she’s not that into youI think being cheated on is a separate thing that has to do with lack of honesty and empathy, but yes people want the best so you have to be the best, if you want to always be the best they can get even if you drop the ball you’ve got to date down. That doesn’t interest me at all, I simply don’t feel attraction to those people. And at the same time, if someone I’m attracted to lets themselves go, it’s not going to work for me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/26 11:36 PM |
| – | What do you think of venting subreddits banning posts about dating voes?What own happiness do single men have? lmao. Nobody cares if bottom tier men check out, that’s not why they ban this stuff. They fear bottom men radicalizing, but it’s nothing but a predictable result of removing nearly all the previous religious moral and cultural restrictions from the dating market, and banning Reddit posts won’t stop it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/26 10:04 PM |
| 2 | If you have to spend more than a lot on a date she’s not that into youThat’s talking your logic to its conclusion. If she won’t go on a date with me unless it’s something expensive, she must not like me. So why ever switch over to the dinners and shows at all? If she’s not willing to live a poor person lifestyle overall with me, she must not like me. Love is not unconditional. A woman who really loves you would love you even if you became poor! A woman who is really attracted to you would love you even if you became disfigured! No actually, once you don’t bring th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/26 01:36 PM |
| 1 | If you have to spend more than a lot on a date she’s not that into youIs it really because the whole world is competing for money status and power. Not everybody can be part of the 1%, everyone is trying to make money - only the top 1% make the most. For every person with power they have multiple subordinates who are the instruments of that power. There’s no way for every man to have money power and status. And a god damn lot of them are trying, I’ve got dozens of men just at my company competing with me for money power and status. You’re much better initiating th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/26 04:36 AM |
| 4 | If you have to spend more than a lot on a date she’s not that into youI don’t think she has to be willing to slum it with you to genuinely desire you. Bro she won’t live in a box under a bridge with me she doesn’t love me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/26 04:23 AM |
| 4 | If you have to spend more than a lot on a date she’s not that into youI’m only interested in highly attractive women, I rarely receive reciprocal interest, one of my positives is that I make enough money to not care if I spend $150 on some dinner that didn’t go right, and that dinner is going to have good food and better atmosphere than a walk, and that might improve my chances, so I go with that. Or something cool that costs money in general | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/26 04:17 AM |
| – | LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADmen might say they want looks more than women do but what people say they want even if it’s true doesn’t matter given the dating market dynamics, in my life I see gaggles of online paired couples where the man is better looking than the woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/26 07:48 PM |
| – | [CMV]: The "Mating Gap" is a modern mass extinction event that society ignores by criminalizing sex work and stigmatizing male celibacy.The post argues your proposed solution fails, because the men know they are still unselected, and that is the true desire, not intimacy. Your supposed method of “sexual integration” will not serve a supposed need where as being selected supposedly serves a want. On other grounds, such as disease, abuse, human trafficking, morality, society is not ignoring the problem of male celibacy by criminalizing prostitution, it’s addressing the problems of prostitution. The solution to the problem of the i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/26 06:37 AM |
| 1 | The term "ran-though" needs to end.Men are supposed to just shut down their libido hard and self improve until girls like you bro! Get a degree and then a job and then several promotions and make sure you take a few of those years to build a physique have your own car and your own place nice clothes fun hobbies all your shit together and all the rest and only then may they finally even complain that no one likes them lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/26 06:19 AM |
| 1 | Men, why are you surprised that attractive women are attracted to attractive men af/bb? And should women feel the same?The reason is because the market dynamics mean that while men may chase “baddies” if they want, the vast majority of them could only get casual hookups with women who are below the looks level of the women they could be with if they commit to them, and the opposite is true for women. So typically, in a committed relationship, men are getting the best they can get at the moment, and women are settling for them in exchange for the stability of a relationship vs someone better looking who won’t com… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/26 05:44 AM |
| – | LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADIf an increased supply of skinny women wouldn’t decrease their value on the market that can only be because they’re willing to be one of multiple partners to a desirable male and the only reason this pool doesn’t already do that is because they just can’t. Pretty much matches with the logic of 80/20, as soon as you pass the bottom 20% of women and qualify for at least a sample of the top 20% of men, you’re not interested in the bottom 80% of men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/26 02:15 AM |
| – | LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADThey’ve already got a skinny shot and they’re getting better and better. That info combined with your logic means it’s over for shorties, lock down your fatty now before that shit goes generic | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/26 02:12 AM |
| – | "Dating for men is so easy. You have to be normal" Is one of the most cringe and false statements of all timeOther than not being some kind of researcher with funding and probably being a normal person with responsibilities that keep them more than busy enough. What kinda bullshit post is this lmao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/26 01:39 AM |
| – | "Dating for men is so easy. You have to be normal" Is one of the most cringe and false statements of all timeAbsolutely a normal man does. Who said integrity is normal? Who said integrity gets you laid? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/26 01:37 AM |
| – | "Dating for men is so easy. You have to be normal" Is one of the most cringe and false statements of all timeTattoos are gross and if you were truly in shape you’d do better with the natural muscle definition than ink hiding it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/26 01:35 AM |
| 4 | Men Shouldn't Complain About Being Locked out of Casual Sex if They Think it's bad for WomenHe said it’s a proxy for loyalty. Only one half of the equation could be unsure that the baby made is theirs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/26 05:47 AM |
| 1 | The primary biological drive that has driven male ambition for all of human history is WOMEN (to attract a mate/secure a wife/and provide for a family), and the fact that its out of reach for men today is why they are opting out of societyEnding up is not just the moment you die, it is the primary biological drive, still doesn’t mean don’t do anything else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/26 02:42 AM |
| 1 | The primary biological drive that has driven male ambition for all of human history is WOMEN (to attract a mate/secure a wife/and provide for a family), and the fact that its out of reach for men today is why they are opting out of societyI say the life most people want has romantic success and you take it as there is no reason to do any other thing? Whatever it is you like to do, most people don’t dream of ending up alone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/26 02:29 AM |
| -1 | The primary biological drive that has driven male ambition for all of human history is WOMEN (to attract a mate/secure a wife/and provide for a family), and the fact that its out of reach for men today is why they are opting out of societyIt’s just how organisms work, each body plan is a different way to fill a niche and successfully reproduce. Every single organism for 2 billion years leading to you had that drive, that’s why they reproduced and led up to you, and in the vast majority of cases genetically instilled that drive into you. Humans are not some unique creation. My genes are indeed not wonderful, I have a disabling genetic disease, and yet I can’t change my biological drives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/26 01:55 AM |
| 1 | The primary biological drive that has driven male ambition for all of human history is WOMEN (to attract a mate/secure a wife/and provide for a family), and the fact that its out of reach for men today is why they are opting out of societyJust pair up is some r/restofthefuckingowl shit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/26 01:52 AM |
| 1 | The primary biological drive that has driven male ambition for all of human history is WOMEN (to attract a mate/secure a wife/and provide for a family), and the fact that its out of reach for men today is why they are opting out of societySo why does your response to the OP grant the idea that having a wife and kids to work for is an outdated idea, if somehow more people are pairing under modernity/feminism? Why isn’t your response to the OP that there is in fact a clear path to marriage? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/26 01:29 AM |
| 1 | The primary biological drive that has driven male ambition for all of human history is WOMEN (to attract a mate/secure a wife/and provide for a family), and the fact that its out of reach for men today is why they are opting out of societyGranting or not granting the premise? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/26 01:08 AM |
| -2 | The primary biological drive that has driven male ambition for all of human history is WOMEN (to attract a mate/secure a wife/and provide for a family), and the fact that its out of reach for men today is why they are opting out of societyThe life you want to live is going to be one of romantic success, you’re just a vehicle for your genes adapted to a certain niche, like every other organism. I don’t think there’s any point in yearning for a return to the 1950s, but if you consider my premise that romantic success is virtually always going to be a part of the life people want to live, then advocating a set of cultural norms that results in more pairing makes enough sense as pairing would benefit the most people overall, if you t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/26 12:20 AM |
| 1 | Women seem to dislike clear communication, its a turnoff for themAlright Martin Autism King I’ll be at the million man march | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/26 11:49 PM |
| -3 | The primary biological drive that has driven male ambition for all of human history is WOMEN (to attract a mate/secure a wife/and provide for a family), and the fact that its out of reach for men today is why they are opting out of societyWho op or me or you decide to vote for has a mathematical possibly of 0 of changing any outcome of who comes to power, no election of substance is decided by one vote. You can rely on voting to solve neither your romantic or your employment issues, you can’t change society, only yourself. Society will change how it changes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/26 11:41 PM |
| 1 | Women seem to dislike clear communication, its a turnoff for themEveryone would like you to communicate more clearly to them, that doesn’t mean it’s the best way to get what you want from them. Used car salesman doesn’t communicate the bad parts clearly and gets the sale. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/26 11:33 PM |
| 2 | Women seem to dislike clear communication, its a turnoff for themYou’re dying every second, if something is ineffective, stop wasting time on it, lest you waste your life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/26 11:30 PM |
| 1 | LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADSo you’ve got to be into people who dress in some strange way lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/26 09:32 PM |
| 13 | Do women really sleep with the “hot guys” first and marry the average ones later?Because there are social costs to stating certain things | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/26 08:56 PM |
| 1 | Do you view being penetrated as submissive, degrading or bad?My contention is that’s where the negative connotation of “giving it up” or “putting out” comes from, not this idea that getting penetrated is bad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/26 08:47 PM |
| 1 | Do you view being penetrated as submissive, degrading or bad?Do you have to see penetration as degrading to not be a fan of promiscuity? I don’t think that and I don’t see why one would think it would be an important aspect in why people don’t like promiscuity. Seems to be some like Freudian psychology bs. I don’t think promiscuity is a good thing for men to do either but I can at least respect that it’s generally more difficult to do for a man than a woman. It’s that issue of who its more difficult for that is why one party is scoring and the other is pu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/26 07:51 PM |
| 1 | LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADWhy would you expect them to congregate somewhere in particular? You’re more likely to find good looking people in environments that reward being good looking, so like nightlife stuff, but that doesn’t mean you’ll consistently find that kind of person there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/26 01:59 AM |
| 2 | Nobody is trying to get you to lower your standards, dating is a free marketI personally can’t relate to that, this does not seem to be a natural thing to me at all. I’ve never been able to control who I’m attracted to and only being interested in people out of my league has been a problem for me. You say yes, so you agree that one can max out their value but still have no success due to unrealistic standards, and that you’re then left with one option of lowering your standards. When someone says that my standards dropping with long term lack of success should be natura… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/26 12:06 AM |
| 2 | Nobody is trying to get you to lower your standards, dating is a free marketAbsolutely, but sometimes, you could realistically exhaust them, you can only work with the materials you have. You can only fill out the frame you’re born with, capitalism is competitive, not everyone can be a millionaire CEO there are barriers of intellect, energy, health, luck. Everyone wants more money, the 1% are the 1% for a reason. You can max out those avenues as much as you can and still not match up to your the standards of the people you desire. Then you’re left with one option, lower… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/26 11:58 PM |
| 2 | Nobody is trying to get you to lower your standards, dating is a free marketThen you damn them to no success. I personally see it a different way I don’t think I can adjust my looks standards any more than I can adjust my gender standards for a partner, there’s some people I’m attracted to, and some I’m not. It’s some women and zero men, and I couldn’t decide to be attracted to the women I’m not attracted to any more than I could decide to be attracted to men. You can do all you can to improve your attractiveness and if that’s not enough to get you someone up to your st… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/26 09:29 PM |
| – | LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADI think the opposite, even when I’m going out to spaces like bars that reward good looking people, or the gym, but people’s standards differ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/26 07:32 PM |
| – | Telling a man who's average/under average that they should just be "themselves" is terrible advice.I’ve been misunderstood, it’s not society judging me for not being good enough or comparing myself to others that makes it gnaw at me, it’s my urge to fulfill my biological purpose my friend. I can feel my very being insisting that I must fight tooth and nail for this no matter what the cost or how low the chances. Everything I do for my career, health, etc, is aimed toward that goal. I couldn’t care less what anyone else thinks of my lack of romantic success. I don’t think women are too mysteri… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/26 08:54 PM |
| 2 | Women should chase menNo they shouldn’t because a lot of men would say yes to a woman they’re not interested in long term who displays obvious interest in them just for the easy lay, while most women won’t, only going for the men that would choose you to approach among others displays higher interest in you and so you’re more likely to get someone who will stick long term. If your position is “just men with pussies” and “just women with dicks” horomones and evolutionary development and all that shit doesn’t matter wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/26 08:26 PM |
| – | Telling a man who's average/under average that they should just be "themselves" is terrible advice.It seems like that’s a key difference between men and women I keep seeing in this forum, lack of romantic success is a constant thing gnawing on me mentally, not a day goes by it doesn’t weigh on my mind that I can’t find success with the women I’m attracted to. Anyone who doesn’t pass that bar isn’t even in play, and attractive and likes my mask is better than nothing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/26 06:13 PM |
| – | Telling a man who's average/under average that they should just be "themselves" is terrible advice.What’s the point of being with someone I’m not physically attracted to? I can have lots of great friends, the unique thing about the partner is that you’re attracted to them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/26 02:54 PM |
| 3 | What do some men mean when they say 'woman have life on easy mode?'These high minded ideas of toxicity and equality don’t matter at all, when the people you’re interested in have options, the dating game is competitive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/26 01:33 AM |
| 3 | What do some men mean when they say 'woman have life on easy mode?'It’s brutal being disabled maybe especially as a man in the relationship game once you go on disability you’re losing the entire income/hard work lever to try to up your desirability as a partner, you’re practically stuck in poverty. At least in the USA. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/26 11:57 PM |
| 5 | Women accept men’s uncomfortable truths, while many men turn normal female behavior into a pathologyI’m asking myself why anyone likes any of it. Im not the intended hypocrite for the debate I guess. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 04:09 PM |
| 3 | Women accept men’s uncomfortable truths, while many men turn normal female behavior into a pathologyConsider that a lot of men that are horrified by that behavior by women are horrified by that behavior by men as well. Your conservative who goes to church was covering their kids ears when Eminem and his swear laden, sexual content having rap came on in the 2000s. People here often act like they’re pointing out hypocrisy when in reality they’re assigning two opinions they’ve seen from different people to the ppd debate opposite gender hivemind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 03:22 PM |
| 2 | Is the average Purple Pill user here for debate, or is it something more sinister?I think people are trying to gauge the reaction to some of their more inflammatory ideas that they may or may not exactly hold | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/25 02:25 AM |
| 2 | It's not going to get betterThe part that’s right is the last sentence where you forgot a word | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/25 01:56 PM |
| 2 | An hugely understated "purgatory" for men is being stuck in the "zone" between average and the top 10%I think this situation is real but people don’t really care because it could be a lot worse, in a way it’s similar to the predicament average-slighly above average women face because you have options, even casual options, you’re just not happy with them, in one case because they won’t commit and in the other because they’re unattractive/fat etc, but they do have options which means their problem, unlike perhaps the problem of true below average men, is self imposed by their standards, and eventu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/25 05:45 PM |
| 1 | The average man is not below an average woman.My experience is that skinny/skinny fat does not do as well as normal what I would call a ‘dad bod’, when I was 6’1 155-160 I did worse than my friends who were 5’10 190 or 6’ 200. They fill out clothes much better. Skinny is however a much better position to become fit and lean from, fat cells literally never go away and will release hunger hormones to torture formerly fat people who get lean. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/25 03:39 PM |
| 2 | Sex is emotional for men, tooI think most of the time when I see people arguing about this topic on this subreddit it’s to do with why men desire casual sex and why women alternatively dont (often) desire casual sex despite it being available to them. I don’t think justifying cheating is all that popular. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/25 08:59 PM |
| 1 | Men want women to settle for themI think men are willing to settle, full stop, no catch. They’re swiping right on everyone. Seems like there’s an abundance of men looking to settle. I think the idea of “what they should” settle for is based on an assumption that we think romance should shake out with the vast majority of people pairing up. The ‘idea of leagues’ is just obvious, most people pair up with someone of a similar conventional attractiveness level to themselves, this is easily seen in normal life. The conclusion paragr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/25 07:49 PM |
| – | why do men hate sluts so much, instead of just feeling neutral?I feel neutral. If I had a bunch of options, would I never take advantage of it? Probably not. So who am I to judge. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/25 07:47 PM |
| 1 | Progressives or blue pill people ironically blame the male loneliness epidemic women when it comes to shaming single men.Everybody knows that, loneliness is obviously a euphemism for sex because it’s easier to talk about in polite company or print in a headline. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/25 06:07 PM |
| 8 | Progressives or blue pill people ironically blame the male loneliness epidemic women when it comes to shaming single men.The bullshit is imagining that anyone is happy alone after 3 billion years of reproduction leading up to you. We’re wired for this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/25 06:03 PM |
| – | The Dating Issues Men Face Will Be The Same Issues The Women On Here's Future Son's Will Face.It’s not your parents job to get you laid but long term loneliness will make someone ‘dysfunctional’. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/25 05:58 PM |
| – | The Dating Issues Men Face Will Be The Same Issues The Women On Here's Future Son's Will Face.Or maybe it’s all they’ll have to complain about while ai does their job for them and robot butlers help around the house | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/25 05:56 PM |
| – | The Dating Issues Men Face Will Be The Same Issues The Women On Here's Future Son's Will Face.Another person always dictates who you can and cannot procreate with so long as there is consent, by your definition normal sexual/natural selection is eugenics which of course it is and always has been. That’s basically just how life on Earth works. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/25 05:52 PM |
| – | The Dating Issues Men Face Will Be The Same Issues The Women On Here's Future Son's Will Face.Your solution to people who are poor alone and suffering is to kill them, I’m sure you have wonderful solutions for the dating market lmao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/25 05:45 PM |
| – | The Dating Issues Men Face Will Be The Same Issues The Women On Here's Future Son's Will Face.Every being for like 3 billion years leading up to you has reproduced, you’re made to want to do it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/25 05:42 PM |
| – | The Dating Issues Men Face Will Be The Same Issues The Women On Here's Future Son's Will Face.There is a problem under this system, but it shouldn’t be fixed, because the system is good, because it’s voluntary, which means it’s a good system, but things being voluntary meaning they are good only applies to dating, other voluntary systems that cause problems should be fixed, but not this one I decided. The one where the problem doesn’t impact me, conveniently. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/25 04:46 PM |
| – | The Dating Issues Men Face Will Be The Same Issues The Women On Here's Future Son's Will Face.https://slate.com/human-interest/2015/03/the-brutality-of-the-stone-age-only-one-man-had-children-for-every-17-women-8000-years-ago.html Our evolutionary norm is not pairing, there’s aspects of polygamy and male die-off in battles etc to this. The vast majority of people becoming part of a monogamous pairing is contrived through a lot of highly enforced social/cultural/religious norms that are breaking down, we’d be very very lucky if some soft cultural nudging could get us, man or woman, to cha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/25 04:31 PM |
| – | The Dating Issues Men Face Will Be The Same Issues The Women On Here's Future Son's Will Face.This, the way my mother told me to act growing up vs what she ends up telling me later about the men she was actually romantically with | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/25 04:19 PM |
| – | The Dating Issues Men Face Will Be The Same Issues The Women On Here's Future Son's Will Face.You’re not interested in fixing any collective problems so long as they’re voluntary? Are you a hardcore libertarian? That’s not how most people think, that’s not really how anything from activist campaigns to laws work. If people voluntarily join pyramid schemes and lose all their money they shouldn’t be illegal? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/25 04:15 PM |
| – | The Dating Issues Men Face Will Be The Same Issues The Women On Here's Future Son's Will Face.Whatever way it comes about, the deal with this is that I see is that disabled or neurodivergent women of a lot of types have able bodied and neurotypical partners, and not the other way around. And if those women have that option, why shouldn’t they take it? Not to mention for autism specifically there’s a massive gender gap in diagnosis to begin with. This is not the solution to the disability pill. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/25 04:11 PM |
| – | The Dating Issues Men Face Will Be The Same Issues The Women On Here's Future Son's Will Face.I can tell you all the fat acceptance in the world doesn’t change who I’m attracted to, major cope “solution” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/25 03:57 PM |
| – | The Dating Issues Men Face Will Be The Same Issues The Women On Here's Future Son's Will Face.Google US median income, it’s 40k, youre delusional. Average means average. You can’t redefine average. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/25 03:52 PM |
| – | The Dating Issues Men Face Will Be The Same Issues The Women On Here's Future Son's Will Face."So you want women to fuck guys who make their skin crawl for the common good. Sorry. We been there. Done that. Got thousands of years of T-Shirts. FUCK. RIGHT. OFF." Social norms are implemented to solve problems in society. Things were this way for a practical reason, because the consequences of legions of lonely men are more detrimental to society than the consequences legions of women in unhappy marriages. It’s not a threat, it’s the way the human animal acts and that’s the way culture works… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/25 03:38 PM |
| – | The Dating Issues Men Face Will Be The Same Issues The Women On Here's Future Son's Will Face.Sisterhood > sons, women feel that selection is actually for the best, even if their own child is selected against | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/25 03:28 PM |
| 4 | "Women make it obvious if they're into you" they don't lolThe way it works is not that “if you’re not totally ugly” youre a maybe with any girl. A lot of guys think they can get a top 25% girl to ‘grow on them’ but they have access to ltrs with “hawt” guys. If we grant the 80/20 rule of course a lot of women are settling for men they’re lukewarm on - but that person is still their looksmatch. The mismatch is attraction, not looks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/25 03:00 PM |
| 1 | Every woman beater I've ever met was almost constantly in relationshipsYes | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/25 01:46 PM |
| 18 | Every woman beater I've ever met was almost constantly in relationshipsThere is like an opposite of survivorship bias type thing going on here, abusers are never forever alone virgins, because forever alone virgins never have a partner to abuse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/25 03:13 PM |
| -1 | An average young woman *isn't average*I think this is more of a comment on what people are or are not supposed to be confident wearing/showing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/25 05:36 PM |
| 1 | Self-Improvement will NOT improve your attractiveness to womenGoing to therapy isn’t self improvement it’s paying to dump on someone emotionally, you gotta self improve your attractiveness but of course you’re not supposed to fixate in what you used to be and tell the story of the transformation as if it’s supposed to make you better that you used to suck. Women probably like the self-improver guy more than the doomer because while the self improved guy may be insecure at least he puts effort in and lifts etc. Even if you’re not comfortable in your own ski… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/25 05:23 PM |
| 1 | Average guys are made to feel dirty for having a sexual desireI think the main advantage of being taken seriously professionally is hard for economically underprivileged low class men to get much out of, but I think this is a good post | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/25 12:49 AM |
| 2 | "If she is interested she will show" show what exactlyI agree with all of this the only part I’d clarify is “laugh at yourself” - be willing to laugh at yourself, of course you want to be good humored and not defensive, but it’s not the best go-to move to self-depreciate for a cheap laugh. Some might call that “goofy” or “clownmaxxing”. Of course there’s the off situation where some self-depreciating joke might be hilarious but I’m saying not a go-to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/25 11:50 PM |
| 1 | Average guys are expected to abide different rules when it comes to datingThis adjustment of the target of incel rage would do what? Make their complaints more successful somehow? Result in a crushing defeat to the chads? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/25 10:02 PM |
| 1 | Average guys are expected to abide different rules when it comes to datingMen better off dead? Or society better off? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/25 08:59 PM |
| 2 | Men and women are referring to different things when they talk about attraction which causes all the confusionPeople seem to be agreeing that women don’t experience the first type for the overwhelming(?) majority of men, but not that they actually want the second type more. Both sides would rather the visceral attraction version if possible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/25 07:53 PM |
| 1 | When did the narrative shift from "it's your personality and misogyny that keeping you single" to "ofc women love attractive men, are you a stupid shut in!!" ?Elliot Rodgers would be a good example of someone for whom it is definitely their social paralysis and also the rest of their personality, but his self appraisal of himself wasn’t that he was ugly, I’ve seen him on video saying how he’s beautiful and has the best cars and sunglasses or whatever. If someone’s self appraisal is that attractiveness is the problem, and I think there are some people who are very very unfortunate in that aspect, believe them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/25 09:43 PM |
| 2 | When did the narrative shift from "it's your personality and misogyny that keeping you single" to "ofc women love attractive men, are you a stupid shut in!!" ?If your personality flaw is like agoraphobia of course you’ll have 0 interest, that type of social paralysis is very rare. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/25 09:12 PM |
| 1 | The reason women claim they have a worse dating life is cause they dated a HVM even if for a short timeI don’t think knowing what the “pills” are has to do with online dating, it has to do with basically having a lack of success and seeking out models that systemize or rationalize social skills so that you might somehow come up with a strategy to improve them. If you have good social skills organically there’s no reason to systemize and categorize strategies and paradigms about this stuff, unless you just have a particular curiosity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/25 07:03 PM |
| 2 | When did the narrative shift from "it's your personality and misogyny that keeping you single" to "ofc women love attractive men, are you a stupid shut in!!" ?In any other conversation this sample size would be huge, and finding a experimental setting that captures 30% of the sample would be really good, sure, there’s selection bias, but it would have to be a selection bias that creates an absolutely gargantuanly massive gendered gap in user attractiveness for that sort of result to happen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/25 06:24 PM |
| 1 | When did the narrative shift from "it's your personality and misogyny that keeping you single" to "ofc women love attractive men, are you a stupid shut in!!" ?Zero is when it seems to me to be more likely looks than personality, your personality can take some time to come out, you could even have a charming surface and a bad personality, looks are always on the surface. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/25 06:20 PM |
| 2 | When did the narrative shift from "it's your personality and misogyny that keeping you single" to "ofc women love attractive men, are you a stupid shut in!!" ?Right, why should they take a hit to the ego to give you good advice if you they’ve got nothing to do with you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/25 06:14 PM |
| 3 | When did the narrative shift from "it's your personality and misogyny that keeping you single" to "ofc women love attractive men, are you a stupid shut in!!" ?It seems like we went from “looksmatch” is a dirty blackpiller word to of course you can only get your looksmatch | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/25 06:05 PM |
| 2 | When did the narrative shift from "it's your personality and misogyny that keeping you single" to "ofc women love attractive men, are you a stupid shut in!!" ?If you spent high school so far down at the bottom of the pecking order that you didn’t even get to see much of what’s going on in the middle or top, you might not learn much of anything | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/25 05:30 PM |
| 3 | When did the narrative shift from "it's your personality and misogyny that keeping you single" to "ofc women love attractive men, are you a stupid shut in!!" ?I still see it as just how 3 different tiers of attractiveness deal with confronting their dating reality: Ugly: black pill, you can’t get what you want, must at least heavily compromise, looks matter the most, because they get in your way the most Mid: red pill, you could get what you want, but you’d have to improve, improving wealth, status, adopting social strategies, going to the gym Hot: blue pill, you usually get what you want, you usually have to turn people off of you somehow for them to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/25 05:18 PM |
| 2 | "If she is interested she will show" show what exactlyIt seems to me like it has to do with a certain amount of sexual like aggression that I’m not comfortable with, entertaining but you can’t just be goofy, and touching them and talking about sexual topics that bring that energy and put you in that category immediately. This is what works for really successful guys I know that are on the high end of attractiveness to have casual sex, at least. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/25 04:57 PM |
| 2 | When did the narrative shift from "it's your personality and misogyny that keeping you single" to "ofc women love attractive men, are you a stupid shut in!!" ?You’ve already conceded your point, there’s a bar it’s just not that high, well if you’re below the bar, your personality’s not in the running. That’s how it works. For the vast majority, of both genders. Why would it not? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/25 04:27 PM |
| 5 | When did the narrative shift from "it's your personality and misogyny that keeping you single" to "ofc women love attractive men, are you a stupid shut in!!" ?I don’t know why you think it’s so surprising that people fall for society’s polite lies, it takes a certain level of perceptiveness to have society/most people telling you one thing but noticing that the way people you know pair off matches a different pattern. Half of people have below average social skills, some of them are not that perceptive, a lot of them are on Reddit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/25 04:25 PM |
| 5 | Women don't deny they like attractive men. They deny that they are all attracted to the same menThat’s just how human attractiveness works but somehow it’s supposed to be such a diversity of looks women are into. For both sides it’s really the same stuff, facial symmetry, clear skin, sexual dimorphic traits (muscle mass, hips ratio, etc) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/25 03:45 PM |
| 1 | Women’s Understanding Won’t Help — Because Pity Kills DesireSympathy for men as a whole doesn’t make sense because some men do great with these dynamics. The blackpillers have given up, so pity won’t get them a partner - they think nothing will so who cares. I think they’re mostly just tired of being insulted as virgins and the fact that it’s basically socially acceptable to label someone a loser for their lack of partner, while at the same time basically assuring them that dating dynamics are moral, natural, or just- something like this. If they can’t g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/25 02:28 PM |
| 0 | Women’s Understanding Won’t Help — Because Pity Kills Desirewhen i meet a man i have no way of knowing that he is successful or not in dating. Lmao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/25 02:14 PM |
| 1 | Women’s Understanding Won’t Help — Because Pity Kills DesireI have found becoming stronger to be the biggest waste of time in my life, it does take a lot of time and effort, the only purpose of which is to try to cultivate looks women prefer. Being fit, useful, being a more muscular white collar worker, not so much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/25 02:12 PM |
| 4 | Should women be “giving guys a chance”?Some people, perhaps more of them women, seem to be reporting that even if they are not “successful” tempering their expectations any further would mean a partner who isn’t preferable to being alone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/25 01:09 AM |
| 6 | Men need to stop approaching and chasing women.Those who exclude themselves weren’t the toughest competition to begin with | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/25 12:22 PM |
| 4 | Love and sex is not a rightNobody is saying that there shouldn’t be consent. You want a society with social standards that much more heavily encourage monogamy like has existed for most of history and still exists in most of the world? Youre basically a rapist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/25 10:53 PM |
| 3 | Women preach “confidence” but get annoyed when average men think they have a chance with themThe whole lowering your standards part is harder than it sounds in my experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/25 10:05 PM |
| 6 | Women preach “confidence” but get annoyed when average men think they have a chance with themNot at all how it works for me as a man, we could meet doing my favorite activity but if you’re not attractive to me, that’s that. Attraction is the prerequisite | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/25 10:04 PM |
| 21 | Women preach “confidence” but get annoyed when average men think they have a chance with themWho should be more black pilled than the autists? They’re basically socially disabled and then asked to compete in romance | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/25 10:02 PM |
| – | Women can’t really rate other womenFrom your post, it seems like the women can rate the other women, the women are in higher demand, men like pale and skinny chicks and women don’t like pale and skinny men. They’re right. There is a lower bar to clear for men to consider women attractive than for women to consider men attractive. The conclusion sentence of your paragraph seems to me to be a completely different topic than the title of the post. It is what it is, you can’t change human nature, you can’t change certain things about… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/25 03:39 PM |
| 1 | How often do you run into men who are "good/solid/catch" men that cannot seem to attract women - if, so what is typically the glaring obvious reason why? is there ever a time where just is no good reason?I wouldn’t put any effort into courting a girl who is ‘too plain’ for me, it would make me feel horrible for leading them on basically pretending to like them more than I do. There are girls that you’re so attracted to you can’t help but ‘orbit’ them as people would say on here, if you don’t feel that way about a woman it feels cruel to want to pair up with them when you know they won’t have your attention like those other girls would. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/25 05:33 PM |
| 14 | Advice geared towards men is circular and designed to drive you insaneI’ll say the last one seems pretty true to me but also to not have anything to do with men’s dating advice. People are often accused of being unconfident for basically acknowledging they have flaws and things they need to improve on, and then they try to discuss those topics on forums about that kind of thing, and people there act like that’s what they’re talking to potential partners about - obviously not, people know to put their best foot forward. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/25 05:30 PM |
| 2 | How often do you run into men who are "good/solid/catch" men that cannot seem to attract women - if, so what is typically the glaring obvious reason why? is there ever a time where just is no good reason?anecdote anecdote I don’t believe you /r/purplepilldebate | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/25 02:22 PM |
| 0 | How often do you run into men who are "good/solid/catch" men that cannot seem to attract women - if, so what is typically the glaring obvious reason why? is there ever a time where just is no good reason?I think paragraph 2 is the main thing, there are guys that fit all the criteria, they’re not ugly, but they aren’t interested in their looksmatch, so they are chronically single. Looksmatch seems like a perfectly useful and self explanatory word to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/25 02:19 PM |
| 3 | Men’s lives don’t suck because men repress their feelings or hide them, men’s lives suck because society doesn’t care about themWhat I refer to as absolutely ridiculous is that men will no longer have the expectation to be “superior” if we were to “eliminate gender roles” because that expectation is rooted in our biology, the vulnerability that comes with pregnancy, and while some things are “gender roles” and social constructs, others are sexual dynamics that won’t change. I don’t think my post has much to do with your conclusion. I think eliminating gender roles and letting people do whatever they want might lead to le… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/25 07:31 PM |
| 0 | Men’s lives don’t suck because men repress their feelings or hide them, men’s lives suck because society doesn’t care about themAbsolutely ridiculous, men commit 90+% of the homicides the world over, it’s hormones that make men and women act differently, not just culture, and men want to succeed because women prefer men who succeed and have resources, for evolutionary reasons. If men could slack and get women they would. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/25 11:40 AM |
| 5 | Women lie about their "low" standards and the bar in hellBut we’re animals wired like every other animal to find acceptance in our group, reproduce, and raise young, that’s the start of our existence and indeed also the end all be all. What else one could want to do, it’s hard for me to fathom, just become dupes of the travel marketers and product marketers I guess. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/25 01:38 AM |
| – | I've tried helping a few younger guys get dates, something is wrong here.Survivorship bias | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/25 09:28 PM |
| 1 | Do you ever have the urge to push back against hatred directed at men who think their position in dating suck?As if supplicants and orbiters are so bad to have lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/25 03:25 PM |
| 0 | If men don't want to date women over 30 because they're jaded, bitter and have trouble pair bonding, wouldn't the same thing apply to men over 30?Men rarely care about a partner’s income because that’s just where men and women’s priorities differ. I know a lot of men who work hard so they can afford sports cars and all sorts of stuff to impress women, I’ve never heard anything like a that from a professional woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/25 04:17 PM |
| 4 | If men don't want to date women over 30 because they're jaded, bitter and have trouble pair bonding, wouldn't the same thing apply to men over 30?And men will claim all the women saying there are no good men are looking for 7 foot 7 figures 7 inches, everyone is always just straw manning and insulting each other on here, acting like the other sex is not allowed to complain. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/25 04:08 PM |
| 5 | I’ll Answer the “Why Don’t Men Read Our Profiles?” Question.Doesn’t share the same political views? Cool, she’s a pump and dump. She doesn’t want kids and you do? Cool, she’s a situationship you lead on for a bit until you find your dream woman. She’s not that attractive to you, but you haven’t gotten any in a while? Cool, she’s for quick validation and an ego-boost. I’d say it’s kinda worse than that most guys I know have no chance at casual action, they won’t sleep with you unless it’s a relationship, so the move is to lie or at least say you your apol… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/25 08:21 PM |
| 4 | I’ll Answer the “Why Don’t Men Read Our Profiles?” Question.Of course they’re biologically conditioned to have sex with men with resources, the consequence of sex is 9+ months of vulnerability | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/25 08:17 PM |
| 27 | A large reason for men's dating struggles is simply the lopsided gender ratio within the dating pool.Did everyone suddenly become gay this generation or did it just become easier to say you’re non-binary demi-bi-romantic as the only way to absolve yourself of the cis white oppressor card? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/24 05:51 PM |
| 1 | Bad boys are liked by women only because of their self-confidenceYou can be as confident as you want and if they’re not physically attracted to you they’re not physically attracted to you, in such a case confidence just means more “no”s. Bad boys are interesting, person with a normal job and normal life is not interesting. Bad boys also escalate more, and why not they don’t have to be worried about maintaining their reputation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/24 07:53 PM |
| 1 | Chasing women is a huge waste of time.Unfortunately, most men are thirsty and have been conditioned to think that sex is the be all and end all of life Desiring sex above basically everything except physiological needs and safety is not societal conditioning, it's natural, it is lower on Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs than self-esteem and self-actualization. If you skip a rung you will feel emptiness from those unfulfilled needs. We are animals that want to reproduce, we are social creatures that want connection, no societal conditioni… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/23 07:52 PM |
| 3 | this might be an unpopular opinion but dating the top 20% of men are overrated. Just get you an average man and live an average lifestyle. Dating the top 20% of men is not what its cracked up to beWhat you're still saying depends on there being some disproportionality in the answers, if you count skipped ratings as zeros and 20% of men and 20% of women skip rating the other gender then both averages are brought down by an equal amount, it may mess with the absolute values we end up with, but not the relative difference between the ratings men and women give, which is what people are talking about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/23 06:39 PM |
| 4 | this might be an unpopular opinion but dating the top 20% of men are overrated. Just get you an average man and live an average lifestyle. Dating the top 20% of men is not what its cracked up to beyou're assuming women are disproportionately not rating men, I don't see any reason to think it would be so | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/23 03:56 PM |
| 2 | this might be an unpopular opinion but dating the top 20% of men are overrated. Just get you an average man and live an average lifestyle. Dating the top 20% of men is not what its cracked up to beIf | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/23 03:21 PM |
| 10 | this might be an unpopular opinion but dating the top 20% of men are overrated. Just get you an average man and live an average lifestyle. Dating the top 20% of men is not what its cracked up to bethe same methodology was used for the men and yet their ratings follow a regular bell curve | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/23 02:13 PM |
| 1 | Is it that bad for a virgin to have to practice?How does this make any sense? Virgins can't practice, they're virgins. If you can practice, you're not a virgin. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/23 12:35 PM |
| 4 | Alcohol is a means of coping with anxiety/poor social skillsDo people who frequent bars actually enjoy the environment or are they just there to meet people? People enjoy the drinking, nobody cares about making it to very old age so we can be demented and shit ourselves. Start drinking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 02:40 PM |
| 4 | "Just work on yourself bro, your career and hobbies bro!" Mfs acting like being a wage slave and consooming products replaces actual bonds of love and companionship with other human beingsCalling a Southerner a Yankee is like saying that a Scottish person is from England. Perhaps its imprecise enough that a foreigner won't know the difference but you're gonna get a earful when you say that to the natives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/23 02:39 PM |
| – | Women are 100% repelled by genuinely kind men and respond positively to being mistreatedasocial =/= antisocial | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/23 12:33 AM |
| 3 | Dating Apps Are Purposefully Made Worse to Make People More Miserable.seize the means of reproduction lmao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/23 02:53 PM |
| 1 | Why “open communication” is often code for “adhering to a woman’s terms” in a relationship…You're acting like anyone on PPD would actually believe you if you gave them an anecdotal example from your life instead, they would just say you're lying and actually a virgin who has never stepped outside ever. Better to have a link you can at least back up what you said with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/23 03:30 AM |
| 1 | Our generation's complete and total dependence on emotion based decision making early in the courtship process is killing good potential relationships from forming.lol conspiracy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 04:57 PM |
| – | Highly unethical advice from a semi retired man whore, that is the true one pillpeople of this one particular mind have more sex, especially with the ones who have the drugs | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 08:11 PM |
| 9 | Men are told to "touch grass" and "talk to women" but if they fumble they get to be creep shamed on social mediaor rather, lack of a social group means they have to explore | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 02:21 PM |
| 2 | Don't mistake a man's lack of options for better moralsIncentives would say that a man with a 'lack of options' would be less likely to take a woman he is in a relationship with for granted. Like a rich person might not take great care of a $100 pair of shoes while a poor person would, because for one they are easily replaced and for the other not so much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/23 01:23 PM |
| 1 | At what point is 'improve yourself' no longer good advice?His trait is now that he dresses well, I don't see how you're gonna mind read his motivation | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 11:41 AM |
| 2 | At what point is 'improve yourself' no longer good advice?You don't consider having an odd obsession with an outdated video game, that consumes enough of your free time to make it an essential part of hanging out with you, making you unapproachable, as 'something wrong'? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 11:35 AM |
| 1 | The unavoidable corruption of dating apps. I worked in the dating industry for a dozen years and it is an probably the most intrinsically fake legal industry in existence. The entire thing is built on misconceptions, half-truths, and flat out lies, mostly about men and their chances of success.I don't understand how matchmakers wouldnt suffer from this gender-imbalance, men are the source of the money problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/23 01:32 AM |
| 7 | The unavoidable corruption of dating apps. I worked in the dating industry for a dozen years and it is an probably the most intrinsically fake legal industry in existence. The entire thing is built on misconceptions, half-truths, and flat out lies, mostly about men and their chances of success.this is reddit, home of the fedora tipper | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/23 01:25 AM |
| 3 | CMV People that claim that eating out a Women is wrong or emasculating or submissive are the biggest dorks on the planet.https://www.starobserver.com.au/news/men-having-sex-with-women-is-gay-claims-straight-right-wing-podcaster-nick-fuentes/212955 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/23 05:24 PM |
| -1 | Why does it seem that blue collar and “average Joe” men have an easier time with female romantic partnership than money making STEM or forum guys?The dating scene when you grew up was different | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/23 12:27 PM |
| 1 | The Red Pill is dying and RP influencers are killing it.the black pill is just MGTOW while being bitter about it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/23 11:49 AM |
| – | The Red Pill is dying and RP influencers are killing it.I don't understand what you mean by tell that to them, they would understand that being short and poor is not helping them romantically | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/23 11:28 AM |
| 2 | A lot of dating advice given by women here only works for womenBeing 'life of the party' does mean you are fun to be around though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/23 05:30 AM |
| 1 | A lot of dating advice given by women here only works for womenWhat is going too far with humor? I don't even understand what you two are talking about. The OP isn't using 'jesterdom' because the dude he's talking about's problem is that he's funny. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/23 05:29 AM |
| 20 | A lot of dating advice given by women here only works for womenlol right, no idea how I'm supposed to be working hard enough to get promoted to make it up to six figures while simultaneously learning a new skill and joining a club and staying fit and making a second circle of friends and... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/23 04:52 AM |
| 1 | It seems like a lot of people on here are so afraid of being fucked over that you’re missing out on the dating experienceits simple, the proportion of men that are acceptable partners to women is smaller than the proportion of women that are acceptable partners to men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/22 05:09 AM |
| 9 | Do redpill guys feel love?Ok, so we agree that fucking around doesn't mean you can't fall in love. The difference is falling in love is easy, it naturally happens, fucking around is hard, it takes a lot of effort, men don't need a forum to strategize falling in love. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/22 02:37 PM |
| 15 | Do redpill guys feel love?I think TRP rightly rejects the idea of fairy-tail love, 'would you love me if I was a worm' love, unconditional love comes from your parents, if you're lucky. Most people learn this in like high school but others are hopeless romantics that need it spelled out for them. Also you seem to have 100% tied the ideas of monogamy and love which really is something that differs by culture, and even in western culture people are swingers and have open relationships and stuff. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/22 02:15 PM |
| 2 | How does TRP/manosphere not negatively affect men’s mental health for 80-90% of it’s audience who don’t become part of the top 10-20%?the purpose is not preserving peoples mental health | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/22 11:17 PM |
| 3 | Roe v. Wade Mega-ThreadThis is passing it back to the state legislatures, what we had previously was an undemocratic court ruling deciding national policy, now elected state legislatures will decide, if it is an issue of democracy, this is more democratic than Roe vs Wade. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/22 05:38 PM |
| 1 | Are you guys actually asking your partners N counts?I figure sample size is abbreviated n for the same reason as various other variables of interest are abbreviated n, because it is the first letter of number | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/22 04:08 PM |
| 2 | Are you guys actually asking your partners N counts?In mathematics n often represents some unknown quantity or number simply because n is the first letter in number. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/22 12:35 PM |
| 1 | Women love it when men impress themI’ve also noticed that I like men who I admire and look up to (kinda weird but true) like if I go on a date with a guy and he tells me all of his life plans and goals and has big dreams for himself, I’d fall for him. When I look at my past crushes, I’ve noticed that I’ve admired all of them. Easy to 'impress' by talking big, hard to follow through. Talk is meaningless, for every rock star 10,000 musicians talked about making it big, for every stock/crypto trader who makes it big 1000 traders tak… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/22 03:08 PM |
| 3 | If you are a man who doesn’t have long term goals or passionate about something, you can’t expect women to be attracted to you.Its a scary thought that people would dive into debt to pursue college degrees they don't give a damn about because they feel obligated by parents/society/peer pressure, I think that's what is making them depressed. Someone else said in this thread they grew up playing video games, it inspired them to become a programmer as their job, and now they're successful, I know a few guys with the same story. Obviously addiction where the urge to game causes you to ignore your rational priorities like sc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/22 04:10 PM |
| 2 | If you are a man who doesn’t have long term goals or passionate about something, you can’t expect women to be attracted to you.On the topic of video games, you keep moving the goal posts. You said: nothing but go to wake up, college, come back home to play video games and sleep. Then they will repeat this cycle everyday for years At the end of 4 years of this, you get a degree, so why do you say they're "getting nothing done"? If you added working out to this I don't really see a problem, but like 30% of America is obese so thats a different problem. Game with your friends after class, why not? Basically, those gamers i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/22 03:36 PM |
| 2 | How many of you who think women should settle more often, have actually expereinced a relationship without attraction or low attraction?Agree with your post but I think settling for a 5 you're not attracted to isn't usually competing with cats its usually competing with sharing 7-8+s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/22 12:29 AM |
| 0 | How many of you who think women should settle more often, have actually expereinced a relationship without attraction or low attraction?I think the guy you're responding to contends that women aim up, so if female 1s demand 2s then male 1s are SOL. When redpillers/incels say women should settle they mean they should aim for their looksmatch rather than aiming up so he's implicitly talking about his looksmatch as an ugly guy, aka ugly ladies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/22 12:27 AM |
| 1 | How many of you who think women should settle more often, have actually expereinced a relationship without attraction or low attraction?It seems intuitively obvious that... there is a problem What if this intuition is wrong, and monogamy was an aberration? https://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/sep/24/women-men-dna-human-gene-pool https://psmag.com/environment/17-to-1-reproductive-success | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/22 12:14 AM |
| 9 | Men often say “agreeableness” is a top trait they desire in a partner more so than women state that. Why is that?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Five_personality_traits its psych 101 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/22 01:01 AM |
| 1 | You're now the head of society , you can make 5 laws related to correcting the wrongs you see in the society regarding The so called "Battle of the Sexes". What laws do you pick?So in that situation you have to get the paternity test in order the assign paternity to someone, if you don't you're being negligent. What this does is make it illegal to keep up the lie by falsely assigning paternity, which might make it hard to continue your affair, but it doesn't make your affair illegal. You won't be convicted of having an affair. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/22 09:07 PM |
| 1 | You're now the head of society , you can make 5 laws related to correcting the wrongs you see in the society regarding The so called "Battle of the Sexes". What laws do you pick?If they are 'unsure' and just decide to assign paternity to some man who may or may not be the father that sounds like negligence to me, call it paternity negligence I guess. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/22 08:52 PM |
| 1 | You're now the head of society , you can make 5 laws related to correcting the wrongs you see in the society regarding The so called "Battle of the Sexes". What laws do you pick?genetic testing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/22 08:36 PM |
| 1 | You're now the head of society , you can make 5 laws related to correcting the wrongs you see in the society regarding The so called "Battle of the Sexes". What laws do you pick?Your cheating would be illegal objection doesnt make any sense. It would only be illegal to lie about a child's parentage, you can still cheat, you could even conceive a child, you could even abort the pregnancy, only if you had the child and claimed the wrong person to be the father would you be guilty. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/22 08:05 PM |
| 10 | The biggest turn on for adult women is a guy that has plenty of things going in in his life.dont ask questions atm | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/21 02:12 PM |
| 0 | In your experience, what are some things different about women in the real world compared to FDS/PPD/Internet women?Well it seems to me that the prostitute is dehumanized in the sense of being commoditized during the course of her work as anyone else is commoditized during the course of their labor doing anything else. Is the buyer also dehumanized? In the sense that the seller just thinks of them as another sale sure. So I guess I agree with 'both dehumanized' more than anything. Its fine if the buyer is okay with that kind of sex and the seller is okay with that kind of job I guess. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/21 10:56 PM |
| 0 | In your experience, what are some things different about women in the real world compared to FDS/PPD/Internet women?It means the client of a prostitute, look up 'John noun'. That may be what you were trying to do, but what you said was: "If prostitutes are sex toys, then the people paying for them are desperate, unwanted money disposers." which implies to me that your opinion of people who buy sex toys is that they "are desperate, unwanted money disposers" and that your actual opinion of people who use prostitutes is something different. But as you told me, you see them as equal, so I was mistaken. I just did… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/21 10:28 PM |
| 1 | In your experience, what are some things different about women in the real world compared to FDS/PPD/Internet women?Okay so whether or not the prostitutes are sex toys, the people paying for them are desperate, unwanted money disposers? Because buying sex toys and being a john is equal? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/21 08:47 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Red Pill advice would be perfect if all the women in the world had Borderline Personality DisorderYou call him out for 'moving goalposts' when you're the one who set up the motte and bailey by starting with barely legal/underage and then retreating to underage | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/21 07:11 PM |
| 6 | CMV: Red Pill advice would be perfect if all the women in the world had Borderline Personality Disorder"you are wrong" UMMM SWEATYYY!! GASLIGHTING!!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/21 07:09 PM |
| 1 | In your experience, what are some things different about women in the real world compared to FDS/PPD/Internet women?so you like johns but not people who buy sex toys? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/21 06:16 PM |
| 4 | What do you think a Red Pilled man actually is?What about just be yourself, body positivity, etc. RP tells you if nobody wants you its because you're not good enough BP tells you there's somebody out there for everyone. These feel-good sentiments are not nowhere in our culture, they're nowhere in this debating forum because they've been BTFO, BP just doesn't exist on here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/21 01:09 AM |
| 0 | [CMV] It’s unwise for women to invest in romantic relationships with men if they aren’t valuable to men past age 30.I don't think anyone's position is that 'women are no longer valuable as partners past 30'. Everybody gets less attractive when the effects of age kick in, people say as a rule of thumb that for women this starts around 30 and for men it starts later. I think this is probably true, at least its represented in our popular culture, actors win oscars at an older age and actresses win oscars at a younger age, etc. Obviously this isn't true for everybody, some people lose weight or learn to dress and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/21 02:53 AM |
| 1 | Are promiscuous women as reliable in LTR as non-promiscuous?I think you've got what the classic blunder is backwards, when you give someone the benefit of the doubt because everyone is different you're likely to get burned because people are more similar than you think | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/21 05:49 PM |
| 3 | Is obesity more of a problem for male attractiveness than for female?Bullshit, are fat people breeding like rabbits? How has obesity exploded if its genetic? People are eating worse food | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/21 04:49 AM |
| 8 | Woman tells her boyfriend that he has a "boyfriend dick", and that bigger dicks from past hookups leave her sore so she needs time to recover from it.Chad and Tyrone are a party | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 23/07/21 08:59 PM |
| 3 | Men are more likely to agree in what women are attractive, while women are more likely to disagree in what men are attractivehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replication_crisis You should know how many studies, especially in the social sciences, fail replication. One study result does not dictate "reality". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/21 05:27 PM |
| 2 | Would men having higher standards actually *work*?Cartelization doesn't work without high barriers to entry, so no, it wouldn't work, there is too much to be gained from undercutting the other men's standards | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/21 07:27 PM |
| 1 | People who are using tinder to find dates are idiots. It's a hookup app. Stop using it to "observe female nature".I could have a stupid diet like the carnivore diet, where I don't eat broccoli because I live by the rules I previously set for myself. Or, I could not like broccoli, but if its boiled really nice and topped with my favorite cheese, I still might take it. Not a perfect analogy, I don't think casual encounters are necessarily broccoli, the ones coming from tinder probably are more often though. I don't disagree with your post about Tinder. The most telling thing about Tinder is the gender breakdo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/21 06:16 PM |
| 3 | People who are using tinder to find dates are idiots. It's a hookup app. Stop using it to "observe female nature".I remember how many women had tinder in college and hooked up once or twice then stopped (including myself). this is also what I see, yet the OP insists Most women are NOT interested in hookups. Whether or not they keep using Tinder is a different thing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/21 04:43 PM |
| 1 | The most important thing for a man in a relationship is to know that it isn't transactional. If a man believes the woman sees the relationship as transactional, he'll treat it as transactional too and do as little as possible to get laid.the risks to us far outweigh the benefits. We will overlook that if he’s hot/funny/famous enough (and your average man is not - it doesn’t mean there is NO attraction or interest in sex) or we’re horny/drunk enough. I might add that you are not doing yourself any favors with this “if she doesn’t fuck on the first date she doesn’t actually desire me sexually” mindset. If she doesn't fuck me on the first date, but she has casual sex, she doesn't desire me sexually as much as she does the hot/funny… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/21 12:40 PM |
| 8 | Why are most men never taught how to attract women?your examples need a lot of work, like for example making sense to people outside your incredibly biased headspace | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/21 05:10 AM |
| 8 | Why are most men never taught how to attract women?basically half of the republican voters are women? What are you even trying to say? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/21 05:03 AM |
| 2 | Women have more freedom than they’ve ever had in history, but they still choose to sell their bodies for incomelmao no | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/21 05:08 PM |
| 3 | As the average American woman is 171lbs @ 5ft4 is wanting a slim girlfriend under 140lbs now considered "high standards?"processed food | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/21 07:02 PM |
| 1 | If you’re a woman who is threatened by TRP, you’re exactly why it exists in the first place.annoying muh source people then criticize the link when you try to get them around the paywall whats the point of trying | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 09:43 PM |
| 5 | "Rape" fantasies are the result of being sexually repressed. They are not an actual desire to be raped.On the second paragraph, I agree with you, but I don't think the idea most red pill men have is that men are not selfish, egocentric, etc, although some may think this, the idea is that they feel they have been taught that women-are-wonderful by society, but in reality women are not like this, they are as much products of human nature as anyone else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/21 12:54 AM |
| 1 | Men and women's lives are too incomparable for us to find common ground on datingI didn't mean that racist people are gonna like you, you're still at risk of a hate crime, probably not in silicon valley but likely in other places. But even in the worst of areas I think statistically worrying about that is as irrational as a chick worrying every one of her dates will end up being Ted Bundy. If you're rich and black you're better off than poor or lower middle class people of any color, backhanded compliments included. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/21 07:15 PM |
| 2 | Men and women's lives are too incomparable for us to find common ground on datingI specified about being assaulted or killed, discrimination is different, and will hinder a person on their way to becoming a rich bastard, but at some point of wealth you don't need anything from anyone else. Should minorities fear all cops because a few suck? I don't think so. Should women fear all men because of the serial killers in netflix documentaries? I also don't think so. I don't live in fear as a man, as you pointed out the most statistically likely group to be killed by violent crime… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/21 04:38 PM |
| 2 | Men and women's lives are too incomparable for us to find common ground on datingIn terms of assaulted/killed, these are also statistically irrational fears, these threats exist, so does Ted Bundy, but fear of such anomalies shouldn't decide how we live our lives in my view. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/21 04:05 PM |
| 1 | Men and women's lives are too incomparable for us to find common ground on datingonce you're a rich bastard your color doesnt even matter | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/21 03:38 PM |
| 1 | So - is the men’s fault for objectifying women in bikinis or is it the fault of women for putting themselves in objectifying situations?Its not just women, most people take care of their looks and worry about them so they can look attractive to other people, the opposite gender if they're straight, or the same if they're gay. This is normal, if you don't do it, thats just being lazy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/20 03:12 PM |
| 3 | If a woman is rejected by an attractive male, she becomes more bitter towards an accepting male who is unattractive.you have scene-y standards and those girls dont like ltrs | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/20 04:22 PM |
| 1 | drinking and drug culture IS the casual sex culture in the west...I'm not very angry, it is a bit of a dumb double standard, but I have to live with it. Theres just a lot more at stake than getting my dick wet when it comes to casual sex while drunk. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/20 05:33 PM |
| 1 | drinking and drug culture IS the casual sex culture in the west...If I'm drunk, and she's drunk, I'm a rapist. That's how the university will see it if she ever decides to go to them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/20 04:00 PM |
| 4 | The reason you weren't/aren't a player is because you're a low SOI, neurotic nebbish dweeb. Not feminism, society or your mother.BPs are either attractive and in blissful ignorance or unattractive who don't want to accept the harsh truth | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/20 09:48 PM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (09 August 2020)many blues don't believe in even 'platforming' red views so they wont discuss here and bring more traffic to a space where wrongthinking is permitted | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/20 03:42 AM |
| 1 | Men are inherently born with no value, and need to demonstrate value to women and society.It's different when most labor available is physically demanding like in the past or in third world countries (china no longer has this problem since the end of the one-child policy) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/20 11:09 AM |
| 1 | Men are inherently born with no value, and need to demonstrate value to women and society.ew babies | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/20 11:05 AM |
| 2 | The problem is not and was never your "niceness". It was/is every other unattractive trait you selectively choose to ignore so you can play the victimbasically, none of it is personality | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/20 05:29 AM |
| 2 | The problem is not and was never your "niceness". It was/is every other unattractive trait you selectively choose to ignore so you can play the victimYeah well nobody wants to burn a bridge by telling their buddy their face is ugly and they wont smash so instead you just give them a simp line that nobody around you is gonna mind you saying | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/20 05:28 AM |
| 2 | The problem is not and was never your "niceness". It was/is every other unattractive trait you selectively choose to ignore so you can play the victimYou can't talk feminists out of solipsism, they expect unattractive men to live as eunuchs | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/20 05:23 AM |
| 1 | The idea that women are "sharing" a minority of men is vehemently rejected outrightthen order? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/20 06:18 AM |
| 1 | Guys in relationships with women who had casual sex feel like they're losingwell its not inexplicable that the 'social loser' is dating a 'slut' because its such a routine thing it is a cliche is my point | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/19 08:34 PM |
| 1 | Guys in relationships with women who had casual sex feel like they're losingit applies to a lot of guys who finally start getting more dates once the ladies they know get to that age where they 'want to settle down' | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/19 08:21 PM |
| 1 | Guys in relationships with women who had casual sex feel like they're losingand that's why the guy in the OP post knows hes being used and she's not attracted to him | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/19 08:17 PM |
| 2 | Guys in relationships with women who had casual sex feel like they're losingSounds like social anxiety to me, people of all attractiveness levels torture themselves with this thought and its just not worth it. If you finally did bag someone you know has more attractive options then you, I bet you'd end up torturing yourself with thoughts of that too... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/19 08:13 PM |
| 1 | Guys in relationships with women who had casual sex feel like they're losingYea, what would be losing is if you had a husband who only chose you because he had no options, that means he's not really attracted to you. In the same way, a man like the one in the OP knows she is not really attracted to him. They both end up settling, become miserable, and get a divorce. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/19 08:09 PM |
| 3 | Guys in relationships with women who had casual sex feel like they're losingAnd so then the only way to get a relationship is to hold sex over a man's head? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/19 05:40 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Attractive men often think they're ugly or average so their dating advice can't be trusted either.you may have autism if you are that bad at identifying attractive faces | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/19 02:20 PM |
| 12 | A contradiction: The more I seem to think 'like a woman', the less friendzone makes sense.So basically any guy that meets you should hit on you first thing so you know they're not one of these eunuchs? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/19 09:04 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Sending men to jail for not paying child support is a human rights crisisIs that so much an issue of society, or a fact of biology? Sex results in conception, who knew. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/19 05:13 PM |
| 2 | It Shouldn't Be This Easy...Does the test come back? After how long? | /r/TheRedPill | 31/01/16 04:22 AM |
| 6 | Are polygamists with huge families the ultimate "wolf alphas"?Other than the places where we see it in modern society, where do we see this in modern society? What? Why did you ask this? | /r/askTRP | 08/11/14 05:24 PM |
| 1 | "Do any other older ladies (40ish) find the double standard of not being able to date down in age ridiculous?"Everyone here hates the left. Accept it. | /r/TheRedPill | 11/07/14 06:31 AM |
| 5 | Who's Next?Think the beginning of Fight Club I guess? People having parties to show off their furniture? Idk. | /r/TheRedPill | 08/06/14 10:33 PM |
| 3 | RP comedy from Tosh.0: Women can do anything...The same exact way in Lacrosse. I have distinct memories of my high school freshmen team destroying the girls varsity team 6 or 7 to zero. | /r/TheRedPill | 11/04/14 12:25 AM |
| 8 | RP comedy from Tosh.0: Women can do anything...I'd imagine they'd outright win their first game; against senior citizens. | /r/TheRedPill | 11/04/14 12:14 AM |
| 2 | Makeover for ugly punk girl reveals the attractive woman previously obscured by shitty piercings, nasty makeup, and ratty clothing.I'm cool with that. | /r/TheRedPill | 24/02/14 10:50 PM |
| -6 | This is getting out of hand.Liberalism. | /r/TheRedPill | 24/02/14 09:42 PM |
| 2 | "30 Things I Don’t Ever Want To Be…" -- FABULOUS List!Ayn Rand. | /r/TheRedPill | 24/02/14 03:56 AM |
| 1 | Sunday TRP humor - girl requests open relationship while on vacation, boyfriend starts immediately fucking another girl, girlfriend melts down.Neighbors can be an excellent resource. You might want to introduce yourself. | /r/TheRedPill | 24/02/14 03:37 AM |
| 1 | The Economics of SexThis video describes the men's market for the top 20% of men. | /r/TheRedPill | 21/02/14 12:18 AM |
| 2 | 'The Economics of Sex'It's a man's market for the top 20%, the rest: not so much. | /r/TheRedPill | 19/02/14 03:19 AM |
| 4 | 27-year-old fair maiden named "boozemunkee" is mystified why she can't find a man who wants more than sex and to settle down with her. r/relationships dons their white armor and rides to the rescue.That question certainly does sound like a set-up. Nice catch. | /r/TheRedPill | 19/02/14 01:38 AM |
| 0 | Currency exchangeA guy named Aaron Clarey on youtube made this same comparison in a video from 2012. I was wondering if you got it from there. He has a blog called captain capitalism where he refers to himself as CappyCap. | /r/TheRedPill | 07/06/13 07:23 PM |
| -1 | Currency exchangeAaron Clarey? CappyCap? | /r/TheRedPill | 07/06/13 07:10 PM |
| 22 | "I usually have more guy friends/I prefer the company of guys"You can type "Fuck" on Reddit. | /r/TheRedPill | 03/06/13 05:06 PM |
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