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1	The manospheres biggest lie Thanks! I understand the historical nessecity and going from need to maybe if everything is right (Michellin rather than McDonalds). But are you sure the word "Helping" is the right word here when it comes to women in their in-group are inflaiting or boosting their standards? The reason for me asking is that if we assume that most women, lets say 80% either wants to have kids are open to it but haven´t decided and 20% of women don´t want kid - then this development where more women - 45% - will …	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/26 02:16 PM
1	The manospheres biggest lie Thanks for the reply. I agree with your analysis. I am however curious if you think women in their in-group + social media inflate their standards. As in if that women as a group is driving a "standard inflation" that will lead to the numbers shown in OPs start. I for one think that women are heavily influenced by other women and what they think "society seems important" - as an example if all men would suddenly be 185 centimeters and broad shoulders then the goalpost would just move forward to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/26 08:39 AM
1	The "she did it with her ex but won't with me" situation is typically valid for a man to be concerned about. I understand what you are writing. Im happy for you that you are so emotionelly distanced/mature that you don't care if your partner invested more in previous partners as long as you are happy. I would argue that it's a rare trait not to feel any sting of jealousy/ sadness about it and it is something you should be happy to have achieved. Thanks for your time and engagement.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/26 04:40 PM
1	The manospheres biggest lie Is there any real studies to back up your claim? You are probably right but it seems like a bunch of mumbo jumbo to try and excuse and cover upp raw Female sexuality. The men in the covers aren't short and chubby. They are tall, muscular and lean. I would argue that they are tall because women find tall men more physically attractive - not because height makes them better at picking down things from the top drawer which makes a womens life easier. I also find it hard to imagine women getting tin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/26 04:36 PM
1	The manospheres biggest lie Thank you for the thoughtful reply and education! Much appreciated. I do however wonder how much of that last litterature class speculation on what all parts represents actually holds up. I would imagine that women want the billionaire due to being billionaire - those things you mentioned but also social clout towards other women. Otherwise one would probably see more well received litterotica with cavemen where the only worry was food and fire or virtual reality where every need is met - might …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/26 03:36 PM
1	Her giving “her best” to another man before is irrelevant. You didn´t answer my question on what life you have lived that gives you the confidence to be an arbitor of human relationships and blatantly dismiss what I wrote. It´s clear that you don´t lack intelligence or the skill to construct a well thought out answer so please humour me. I would argue that you have a very black and white way of viewing the world. Of course no one is forced. No one is barely forced to do anything. Quit your job if your not happy, move to another country if your unhappy w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/26 12:04 PM
2	The manospheres biggest lie Interesting. If this is true that "self-proclaimed visually oriented ppl to seek out bodies they don't find attractive" how do you square the circle in that women, who often self-proclaim reading novels instead, read about BDSM, stalking/obsession, rape or borderline rape? Does that mean that women dont wanna date all of those men in their novels. But it does mean that that those characteristics and acts have a sexual appeal for women? That's the logical conclusion. If yes, that is fascinating. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/26 07:58 AM
2	The manospheres biggest lie Sounds like an interesting book. The numbers I've heard is that 50%+ of women that turn 30 years old without havinging had their first child will never have children. This is not only driven by women not wanting children. If one would assume that most women want of are open to have children then this is a dire situation. This in turn also become a political question that drives divide between the sexes - in my country (Nordics) there is now a push to increase the amount of paid IVF attempts for …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/26 07:46 AM
–	The "she did it with her ex but won't with me" situation is typically valid for a man to be concerned about. I'll rephrase too try to make my point more precise: You as a operation-spot require a level of investment to enter and maintain a relationship. For the sake of the argument we'll say it needs to be 9 out of 10 to enter a relationship and then over time 8 out of 10 is enough. If you would then know that your partner was more engaged in meeting those criterias that are important to you (sex, trips, spending time, meeting friends & family, joint hobbies etc) with someone else than with you. Your b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/26 07:34 AM
–	The "she did it with her ex but won't with me" situation is typically valid for a man to be concerned about. Thanks for the reply. The shrimp buffert was an example of a bigger train of thought. That your partner was more invested in previous partners than with you (as in more the either buffets of sex) . If you don't have any sense of jealousy or sadness about that then Im genuinely happy for you. Most people however aren't so emotionelly shut off/distanced/ mature or whichever words fits best. I'm not sure how to comprehend comments like this. I understand that reddit is a pig pen of keyboard warrior…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/26 07:20 AM
1	Her giving “her best” to another man before is irrelevant. What in your lived experience gives you the confidence to blantantly write off my example as not grounden in reality and absurd? I have two friends that are in this situation (35-45 years of age), worked with several families where this has been a topic and I have the empathy level to be able go comprehend situations. Add to this forumposts and couples councling as a profession. Is it possible that you either live in a small ecochamber or lack the empathy to understand the feeling and needs of o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/26 07:10 AM
2	Her giving “her best” to another man before is irrelevant. As I´m sure you´re well aware a narrative or a thought are built on several diffrent data points. It can be the stories told by your partner ( or not told in diffent contexts ), friends, social media among others. But to make my point sharper and less deniable: Would you or would you not feel a sting of sadness or jealosy if you learnt that your partner since two years and that you love very much said that he doesn´t want to have kids but you later learnt that he wanted to have that with his ex,…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/26 10:45 PM
–	The "she did it with her ex but won't with me" situation is typically valid for a man to be concerned about. Good question. I think the initial course of action would be to validate peoples feelings. After that one could looks for routes forward. I also think there is a severe disconnect from women on how they percive most mens romantic options. They might use the words that they understand but actually internalisering that feeling is something else entirely. If you have an abundance of choise, some good most bad, you then get the reinforced learning of having options which inturn gives you optionality…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/26 10:18 PM
1	The manospheres biggest lie Thanks for the well formulated reply. I think you would find the book "A billion wicked thoughts - what the internet tells us about sexual relationships" to be a good read. It´s from 2012 and costs around 20 dollars on Amazon. I want, again, to push back on your claim that men have no priortizaton of value hierachy on looks. Based on the way you are presenting your arguments it would seem that a sexually boiling 20 year old would find nude grannies juggling zuccihinis to be more enticing that a …	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/26 10:07 PM
–	The "she did it with her ex but won't with me" situation is typically valid for a man to be concerned about. I do want to note that you are twisting the context here. It´s not "level of investment from their parnter in a relationship" but rather "Level of investment in comparison to previous partners in the relationship" It´s not only romantic relationships but relationships in general. If you have the abundance of options to pick and choose potential ideal mates and best friends and not having a sense of jealousy/sadness about their choices then I do applaud you. You live in a world that is totally fo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/26 09:58 PM
–	The "she did it with her ex but won't with me" situation is typically valid for a man to be concerned about. It´s all so tiresome of everything boiling down to rape or borderline rape with men forcing themself on women. If you read my text and OPs text there is a diffrence between scenario 1 and scenario 2 which you fully decide not to adress. Can you describe - step by step - the though process that went into this message?	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/26 09:51 PM
–	The "she did it with her ex but won't with me" situation is typically valid for a man to be concerned about. It doesn´t have to be social media, it can be by friends or his own admission. The point being is that men, or women, should not be blamed for caring about this. It´s a very human thing to do - trying to seperate oneself from it ss weird internet clout and not rooted in reality in my view. Of course you can leave the relationship if you´re not content. You can quit your job if you´re not content. You can move from the country you are living in if you´re not content by the political leadership. Y…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/26 09:46 PM
–	The "she did it with her ex but won't with me" situation is typically valid for a man to be concerned about. That´s a weird take on everything I wrote. But to answer your question - no. I do believe that women either can share experiences of their past life or choose to lie about it / not talk about it. They often decide that they can be arbitors on what ok to share or not based on the outcome that they want. Of course not AWALT but enough women make decisions on mens behalf for it to be a problem worth raising. The experience described by OP and in my reply can come from friends when drunk if not from…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/26 09:36 PM
–	The "she did it with her ex but won't with me" situation is typically valid for a man to be concerned about. Hi that_gworl! Would you feel the same if you know by his own admission, instagram photos or friends stories (etc) that he did take previous partners to more exotic trips and invested more time and money in them. When you then ask to do X (trip in thise case) and he reply is something along the lines of that he was younger then and are less reckless with money and now he has matured and prioritise other things like the local cruis ship with a all you can eat prawn buffet? You could exchange exot…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/26 09:13 PM
0	The manospheres biggest lie Hi Middleoftheroad133! Do you think women are influenced by other women/friend group in their assessment of what qualifies as their "ideal partner"? If yes, would you argue that women and how they act in their friendship should recalibrate what they say since it otherwise might lead their friends to being childless and single due to higher and higher expacations? If no, would you argue that female expecations are the same now as before ( 20 years ago) Lets use height or expected income as metric…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/26 08:54 PM
1	The manospheres biggest lie Cool, no worries. Last question - you mention men and kids as groups. Do you not feel that women as a group affects your peace in a negative or potential negative way as well? If not, how does the womens compassion/way of acting lead to less annoyance? Genuinly interested. I find the whole topic of menopause to be fascinating. Partly due to the lack of effective treatment but also the double sided sword of taking estrogen medication which increases risk of breast cancer. A real shit sandwich. Bu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/26 08:48 PM
2	The manospheres biggest lie I´m not happy with your answer. Can you rephrase your answer on womens perception on becoming invisible? My understanding and belief is that many women feel a sense of loss in not experiencing (net postive all things considred) the same beneficial treatment that they recivied before. This is based on discussions with older family and colleagues + reading diffrent articles. "It's obv that men do not find women over 30 repulsive. They frequently pretend to, to justify poor treatment, but they go h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/26 08:42 PM
3	The manospheres biggest lie Thanks for the reply. I would argue that even in the context of relationship, dating and in regards to "societal preassure" that it´s hyperbolic wording that drives divide. If no one is owed anything then I have no responsiblity to take the other persons feelings or wants into account in my selfinterest. That´s not a society that I see thriwing or on the right trajectory. Didn´t mean to pick on you - it´s just that I find the working provocative and wanted to comment. Have a great night!	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/26 08:28 PM
2	Her giving “her best” to another man before is irrelevant. Hi NoDanaOnlyZuul, I don´t agree with the wording secretly unwanted. I think it´s fully legitimate to feel sad or even frustrated wife was more engaged with someone else. If I knew what my wife did the following things to a greater extent than with me I fould feel sad: - laughed more - cuddle more - send more sweet texts - be more emotional and open - wanted to have childred with their ex but not with me - more inclined to make me happy You can easily add better sex, more driving in initiating s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/26 08:18 PM
0	The manospheres biggest lie Thanks for the reply. I have two follow up questions: What is "Modern approaches" ? When I read that I directly assumes it´s online dating where looks is extremly important since that is the most popular ways of people meeting romantically today. Women aren´t AWALT but would you argue that the majority >50% want what you describe as modern approches? How does this playout in reality? Is the recommendation that men take 10 CBT sessions in introspection? What is the end result or "threshhold" that…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/26 08:04 PM
1	The manospheres biggest lie Yes. Married for 11 years. Father of two daugthers and a background within socialservices, mainly child protection services. Are you male? Are you single?	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/26 07:52 PM
2	The manospheres biggest lie Can you rephrase the question? I don´t understand what you are asking.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/26 07:42 PM
2	The manospheres biggest lie Thanks for the reply. I´m asking about your opinion here. I don´t agree that generalization are pointless - I would argue that it´s impossible to navigate life or have discussions on a forum without generalizing. Should I interpret your answer as in you wouldn´t find 45 or 80% as a case for alarm? If 80% of women would be childless and without a partner - would you not find a case of alarm? I would and I do even at 45%. I´m alarmed since it is a high speed train that is derailing the fabric of i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/26 07:35 PM
3	The manospheres biggest lie This is a wild take. Do you disagree that many women around 50 feel invisible based on how they were percivied before? Regarding your pornrefrence - the mature category is, to my understanding, anywhere from 35-55 where the women are actually very fit and beutiful. I would argue, I think you would agree, that most women aged 55 with their body and overall apperance would qualify as models or "highly attractive" in their age bracket. I very much believe that women have a sexual expiration date ou…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/26 07:31 PM
8	The manospheres biggest lie Hi ThrowRAGlobeVase, I hear that argument quite often and Im curios to hear you take on where you draw the line on the stance of "no one ows anybody anything"? It´s a radical take in my eyes. Does it extend to politics? Does it extend to environmental issues? Is it a fitting response to to womens want for men to be active parts in joining feminist ideology and speak to men that take space on the cost of women? I´m not trying to corner you I´m genuinly interested in your view since I find the exp…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/26 07:24 PM
2	The manospheres biggest lie Hi TattooedJewd! Out of curiosity - is there any percentage level where you would find a case for alarm? If 45% can be written of as "women can be perfectly happy withot men and children and that´s okay". Would you argue the same if the number is 80%? Thanks!	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/26 07:18 PM
0	The manospheres biggest lie I understand why many men find a sort of guilty pleasure in these quotes/statistics. Partly due to a sense of being proven right—in the sense that women's ever-growing expectations of life lead to a downfall of society (this is debatable, but it is a topic that’s worth debating)—but also since it’s a "fuck you" to the ever-increasing expectations of what men should weather and accept. Mostly by media, but blasted through a megaphone by social media. If it is true that women actually prioritize c…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/26 07:12 PM
2	Men need to start leaving women alone. Hi QuestioningThink! Could you elaborate on this abit? I´m curious to how you measure what defines as a "warm" approach and what in that action makes it "genuine" or "not genuine". I´m curious to understand what you deem as "the correct way" and how you want the man in question to grasp that since there is no AWALT. Example: If I´m at a partnerevent and see someone that I know is charistmatic, good looking and makes alot of money hence I have the urge to initiate contact with them to see if it c…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/26 02:22 PM
0	Women tell us to not objectify them, but they end up doing it themselves This is the first time in my life that I´ve seen someone make the claim that pornography is less objectifying than someone masturbating in secret about someone they´ve seen once and the person now knowing about it. I don´t agree with you at all but it´s good to see opposing views. Last note: By your logic - if there isn´t any "consensual porn - mostly created by women or queer people" and you shouldn´t fantisise of other people while masturbating without their formal consent - then I would argue…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/26 08:59 PM
1	Women tell us to not objectify them, but they end up doing it themselves I would appreciate if you could you answer my other question aswell. "You answer yes to question 2 and 3 which leads me to my next question: - Is porn objectifying and bad? If yes, then it logically follows that neither men or women can watch porn OR fantise or masturbate while imagining another person without asking for their consent first - that is inhuman because it´s against human nature and sexuality. Am I missing something here? If no, how do motivate porn being a better alternative than m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/26 08:37 PM
2	Stop gaslighting men into Therapy This is interesting. My understanding is that very few actually speak that boldly. Hence it´s not "problem of finding the right therapist" when it´s so rare that it is rather a structural problem in their education/societal expectation or which people (men in OPs case) are pushed towards therapy. From having worked a field that touches on therapy and having follow up with clients and their therapists I can, with emperical evidence, make the firm claim that the lack of truth or boldness is what´s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/26 08:08 PM
2	Women tell us to not objectify them, but they end up doing it themselves Thanks for the reply, I agree. There´s a diffrence between acting in a demeaning way and thinking sexual thoughts. A chilling experience I imaginge from that story. I´ve heard many women describe it and it´s something that I will have to face as a father of daugthers when they grow up. It´s frustrating to say the least. I hope he got punched on the way out. I also hope that someday that kind of behaviour would be a criminal offense since it, in my eyes, steps into sexual harassment or just haras…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/26 06:59 PM
-1	Women tell us to not objectify them, but they end up doing it themselves Thanks for the reply! I don´t agree that it says the same thing, I would argue that dehumanising is much, much worse. Objectifying a person is disgregarding their individuality or humanity and view them only in terms of sexual attractiveness. Dehumanising is stripping someone of their humanity and is a tool in war in creating "us and them" and is much more sinister. It´s something that strips someone of their rights since they are lesser. You answer yes to question 2 and 3 which leads me to my n…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/26 06:18 PM
2	Women tell us to not objectify them, but they end up doing it themselves Hi Pie-mart! I have three questions that I would appreciate getting your take on. 1: - Why do you need to consent to me objectifying you? In my head it´s the the same mentality as with pronouns. One party wants to police what the other person can or can´t do in a social interaction (verbal or theoretical). Is that the same train of thought that you adhere to here? I find the idea of having a "thought police" to be more dangerous than the risk of you being annoyed that people are sexualizing you.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/26 05:56 PM
1	Women tell us to not objectify them, but they end up doing it themselves Hi Jorts! A few questions after reading your exchange here. Curios to understand other peoples mindset. 1: Is porn (as in If I would record with my wife and share with others) "objectification" and hence bad? 2: If I see you once in public and find you attractive and then when I get home I masturbate while thinking of you in the shower - am I objectifying you and hence doing something bad? Sexual assault, harrassment and deepfake AI porn is thankfully illegal (or soon will be in regards to AI) i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/26 05:36 PM
0	Women tell us to not objectify them, but they end up doing it themselves Hi Bondepart, Curious to get your take on four questions. If we use Oxfords dictionary to define objectification it says the following: "the action of treating or viewing someone in a way that disregards their individuality or humanity, especially by considering them only in terms of their sexual attractiveness or availability." 1: Do you agree with the definition or want to add/tweak something to find a more common definition ? 2: If I see someone out in public that I´m attracted to and then fa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/26 05:25 PM
1	Women need to embrace, modernity all the way. After reading your replies it becomes clear to me that you choose to operate under the pretence that women are unable to see patterns and that their actions should be seen from the “women are wonderful” lense. I think it does women as a group a disservice and belittling their intelligence and reinforces that the idea that women lack accountability. Where I think you’re going off track is treating “not logically consistent” as automatically “bad faith” or “moral failure.” That’s the jump I don’t …	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/26 11:24 AM
1	Women need to embrace, modernity all the way. You’re calling it hypocrisy because it doesn’t meet your standard of logical consistency, but you haven’t actually shown why mixed preferences equal a moral failure. - If you claim to be against traditional gender roles based on “Patriarchy” then it´s logical to assume that you are against the different roots that make up patriarchy as well. Courting women as the OP expressed is one of those roots. Instead you/women should say “I´m against patriarchy but not when it benefits me which in this cas…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/26 08:50 PM
1	Women need to embrace, modernity all the way. Thanks for the quick reply and the thoughtfulness of it. I wrote the initial lines to highlight that it´s your opinion and not a universal truth. You present your argument/thoughts as if it carries the same credibility as in how gravity operates – like it´s a law of nature. It isn´t. But the bigger issue is you’re treating dating preferences like they need to be ideologically pure. They don’t. People aren’t political systems, they’re individuals with mixed preferences shaped by culture, biology,…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/26 07:17 PM
1	Women need to embrace, modernity all the way. Hi TheColdWomen, Can you elaborate on how your reply is relevant to what I wrote? Did you find that my text "begging or guiltying" women? The purpose was to describe a real life scenario that´s playing out with real life outcomes - I don´t see that as begging myself so please describe so I better can understand your viewpoint. Thanks!	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/26 09:07 AM
1	Women need to embrace, modernity all the way. Thanks for replying. Yeah I guess they do. I´m sure the same can be said about men that fill traditional gender roles in relationships once they are established that you don´t notice - hence it´s 1 point each on the scoreboard. My question was primarily to NoDanaOnlyZuul out of the OP´s dating/courting process but I´m sure it can be shiftet towards longterm relationships aswell. "Women on average spend more time on housework" Question 1: Is this equalized towards how much time men spent on worki…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/26 08:59 AM
1	Women need to embrace, modernity all the way. Hi NoDanaOnlyZuul, I read your reply and wanted to comment. It does´t need to pass a political consistency test, according to you. Even if you on a personal level don´t see that it´s a moral failure to cherry pick the raisins while gaslighting men to “do more patriarchy” doesn’t mean that other sees it like you. There are societal ripples of women endorsing empowerment/freeing themselves from patriarchy/whatever word you want to use while still clinging to systems that are based in the patriarch…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/26 11:57 PM
1	Men will never support modern feminism because it exclusively benefits women while trying to lecture and belittle men Hi pie-mart! I was reading your comment and got curious on what your definition of what good looks like. Hence I have some questions that I would appreicate if you could take the time to answer. 1: What criterias would need to be achived for you to say that we don´t live in a patriarchy anymore? 2: Is the patriachy binary and all encompassing or is it situational depending on area? If it isn´t binary - would you say that some areas of life isn´t a patriacrchy but rather a matriachy ? The reason …	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/26 11:09 PM
1	Romance dramas or movies targeted at women are harmful to society Ok, I don´t see the correlation to my last post - please elaborate. The world is bigger than the US as I´m sure you know. And from my understanding of the law in my country the sentence is based on the crime and not other factors such as recidivism. When the judgjement is then passed women get lesser length on their sentences. This is pure misandry and trying to argue something else only shows that the person doing so is so far up in the clouds that they can´t see their own bias. If I guess at t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/26 01:56 PM
1	Romance dramas or movies targeted at women are harmful to society We will have to agree to disagree. If women and men act in a way that on a group level (and trickled down) that assign positive attributes to women in while not giving men the same leeway. Women are often percived as: - More emphatic - Kinder and more helpful - More trustworthy - Gentle and nurturing I don´t agree with that, quite the opposite frankly, I act unconsciously at times as if t that were true which is unfortunate. Im working on it. I find it wild that you don´t think it makes your lif…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/26 08:52 AM
1	Romance dramas or movies targeted at women are harmful to society It´s a scientic term. It´s a good read if you have 5 minutes to read the highlights of the theory and what metrics and uses cases they have to prove it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/26 09:50 PM
2	Romance dramas or movies targeted at women are harmful to society Good on you for always having done the right thing and keep doing it. I´m struggling with this quite often in trying to keep myself grounded in not giving women any more benefit of the doubt that I would men. I´m trying to actively become neutral and "cleanse" myself of my bias of giving women more leeway then I would men. It´s a process and I´m not over the finish line by a long shot. I also want to add that the science/studies on the theory of "women are wonderful" is deafening and undisputabl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/26 09:14 PM
1	Romance dramas or movies targeted at women are harmful to society Good point. I think that there is a diffrence thou - not sure how impactful it is but it is a a noteworthy diffrence in my eyes. In the example of male movies the man in question takes responsiblity, shows stoism and provides for other (safety, be prepared to face monstrous odds and risk their own life). The essence is that you/the hero exists for more people than themself. In the example that OP brings up the women is often the receiver of a perfect or near perfect man which in essence getting …	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/26 10:41 AM
1	Why are feminists allowed to dictate what counts as equality? I agree with that statement since it is the stance that a non zero amount of feminists take in my eyes. I don´t see how it´s relevant to my text thou or this thread.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/26 07:27 PM
1	Why are feminists allowed to dictate what counts as equality? Can you explain what you mean? I´d like to share light on any questions but I don´t understand your statement.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/26 06:16 PM
1	Why are feminists allowed to dictate what counts as equality? Based on my understanding (after watching debates on the news from laywers) and AI summary the following applies. - If the womens story is coherent and detailed then the accused have to have a more logic explanation. If not he will be sentenced.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/26 05:36 PM
1	Why are feminists allowed to dictate what counts as equality? This swedish law doesn´t mention sex spefic diffrence but there are other swedish laws that singles out women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/26 05:33 PM
2	Why are feminists allowed to dictate what counts as equality? In sweden there are three tiers of the court. Tingsrätten, Hovrätten and Högsta Domstolen. The highest one is Högsta Domstolen which acts as a "supreme court" of Sweden. The supreme court has two cases where they tried the law with the following AI generated summary; In Sweden, the Consent Act was introduced on July 1, 2018, which meant a historic shift in sexual crime legislation. The biggest news was the introduction of the crime of negligent rape. NJA 2019 p. 644 ("The first judgment") This w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/26 05:28 PM
5	Why are feminists allowed to dictate what counts as equality? No worries. I´m sure there are but none that I can pull without work. My understanding based on the peoeple I spend time with most find the law to be meaningfull but with it´s challenges. I know that people have been convicted and that the conviction rate has gone up - I just dont know how much. But what I belive that the law has had an norm impact in that men need to make sure that the women wants to participate. This is both good and bad. Good as in of course everyone should be consenting and …	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/26 01:26 PM
7	Why are feminists allowed to dictate what counts as equality? What OP is probably refering to, albeit poorly - refrence should be included, is a law that was passed 2018 in Sweden which is called "Consent law". In essence it shifts the focus of rape and other sexual offences from the presence of violence, threats, or exploitation of vulnerability to the absence of voluntary participation (non-consent). What this means in practice is that the person accused have to make their case on why they thought the women/person was consenting and what influenced their…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/26 01:00 PM
13	Why are feminists allowed to dictate what counts as equality? One document to support these claims is this document (in swedish): https://start.stockholm/globalassets/start/om-stockholms-stad/politik-och-demokrati/styrdokument/riktlinjer-for-handlaggning-av-ekonomiskt-bistand.pdf The document is a guiding document for providing financial aid in Swedens biggest municipality (Stockholm) thou several other municipalities have the same ones. So it´s basically a guiding layer on top of the swedish law in question. In the document on page 14 it says explicitly r…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/26 08:58 AM
1	It's cruel to deprive your spouse of sex and also expect monogamy from them I was curious as to how you see the world and now I have – thank you for engaging. Redpill speaking points have been heavily reinforced and you differ from a lot of the other female commentors here in that you don´t think man and women have the same libido or that the term “forced/raped” shouldn´t be used – thank you for the honesty here. Where I believe I differ from you is how I view other people and their needs and agency while I perceive you to be more childish/main character syndrome. There…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/26 08:09 AM
1	It's cruel to deprive your spouse of sex and also expect monogamy from them This is the opposite of entitlement. I think my partner should be able to leave if he’s unhappy. - A potential answer can always be “leave or leave and turn gay” to any issue in a relationship. I think it´s a ockward stance to take on a debate forum – maybe more so now when there is an ongoing divide between men and women which in turns hinders meaningful relationships. Also, mortage and kids are irrelevant to this since this happens very long after commitment. Why do you reply as you are some m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/26 08:42 PM
1	It's cruel to deprive your spouse of sex and also expect monogamy from them I find your replies to be interesting and I appreciate you engaging. What I feel lacking or missing in your replies are two things: 1: Your view on relationship is “take it leave it” which is not a successful mindset to have if you want to have a long relationship and especially if you add kids and/or mortgage to the situation. I would guess that it comes from a place of abundance and therefore a strong sense of entitlement / men should put women on a pedestal and be grateful of being graced by …	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/26 04:51 PM
6	It's cruel to deprive your spouse of sex and also expect monogamy from them I don´t understand why you engage when it´s in bad faith. But humour me this - If your theory is correct - why do these women (you included?) keep sleeping with the men and doing it with great frequency for several months and stop first when the man has commited? Your theory supports the idea that it´s a concious act where the women fake libido to get commitment. Why would women do this?	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 03:05 PM
3	It's cruel to deprive your spouse of sex and also expect monogamy from them How can you so easily shift all the responsibility on the man? What makes you so sure that this is the case? Studies don´t agree with this at all. I´ll throw this in for refrence (peer reviewed, western country and quite recent) but there are many more: Gunst et al. (2016) – 7-year longitudinal population study Full citation: Gunst, A., et al. (2016). Female sexual function varies over time and is dependent on partner-specific factors: a population-based longitudinal analysis of six sexual funct…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 02:28 PM
4	It's cruel to deprive your spouse of sex and also expect monogamy from them I firmly belive that the added "chaos" of kids affects both parties. But to emphize my point - this happens in relationships with out kids and outside marriage aswell. So it´s not "only" when kids that a womens libido is lowered/reduced. It´s reduced regardless. I fully agree that if one party doesn´t help with the house to a mutually agreed level of tidiness it is a valid concern and excuse. What I want to slightly pushback on is that the womens "bar of acceptence" of what is tidy or clean enou…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 02:24 PM
1	It's cruel to deprive your spouse of sex and also expect monogamy from them Thanks for the reply. I have some follow up thoughts and a question. I would argue that there is a different meaning to being entitled something and demanding it. I would also argue that there has to be some sort of “fencing or frameing” what a marriage is (OP´s word instead of relationship) apart from a legal contract for us to be able to have discussions. Society at large shapes norms and expectations and three base pillars of a marriage, in my eyes should atleast be (unless stated beforehand)…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 01:59 PM
3	It's cruel to deprive your spouse of sex and also expect monogamy from them I agree. I do that myself in a way - sometimes unconcious and sometime concious. If I feel that my wife is not responsive or not taking initiative (doesn´t have to be sexual but that´s most impactful) then it affects my mood. That in turn affects my willingness to give time commitment and emotional closeness to my wife. Expecting that my wifes behavior doesn´t affect me is weird and it helps drive the idea of men needing to be "stoic" and not express their feelings. If I express it verbally it c…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 12:45 PM
1	It's cruel to deprive your spouse of sex and also expect monogamy from them Thanks! I´ll write shorter replies since there were so many questions. Q: “No I don’t think the feeling is valid since it’s based on false assumptions (women DO NOT actually have higher libido in the beginning, they are instead forcing themselves into sex they don’t want to trick the man and obtain commitment). Being tricked implies some kind of misrepresentation of women’s libido. But that’s not what’s happening. Women actually have higher libido at first (vast majority of the time at least).” …	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 12:36 PM
3	It's cruel to deprive your spouse of sex and also expect monogamy from them Thanks. I agree fully. It just seems wild to me that your take on this isn´t more common (at least what I see). You are taking responsibilty instead of* externalising. The bottom two paragraphs were reflections. Either to be picked up upon or just to read.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 11:34 AM
1	It's cruel to deprive your spouse of sex and also expect monogamy from them Thanks alot for taking the time. Last questions! You wrote that "people obviosly don´t decide how high their libido is". Would you argue that this is biological or socially constructed? If it is biological then the same should (?) apply for the man in having a higher libido as baseline and would want that to remain. Hence the feeling of being "tricked" - would you agree that the feeling is valid? If its socially constructed then men shouldn´t get flak for "enhancing/putting their best foot forwa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 11:29 AM
9	It's cruel to deprive your spouse of sex and also expect monogamy from them I agree fully. It would be interesting to hear your thoughts on how the partner with a normal libido should navigate this without it being "pestering". If your partners takes initiative 5 times in a row and you decline 5 times in a row during a two week period - what then? I see a risk in the discussion itself being "pestering" which adds stress. Finally what I find most interesting in these discussions (regardless of male of female) is that the party who has changed is seen as the victim and he…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 11:09 AM
3	It's cruel to deprive your spouse of sex and also expect monogamy from them Hi WebBorn, If you don´t mind I´d like to understand your reasoning abit more. What would you say someone is entitled to in a relationship based on societal norms (what is reasonable to expect) and why explicitly those things when sex isn´t one? Several women in this thread, and other forums, make the claim that women wants to have sex with their partner on a frequent basis. If that´s true shoudn´t it be better to have the women solve the problems stopping here from doing that instead of "living…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 10:59 AM
2	It's cruel to deprive your spouse of sex and also expect monogamy from them Thanks for the quick reply. I have two follow up questions that I wan´t to pick your brain on. Do you see any moral failure/problem with women meeting or exceeding a mans libido to secure commitment and then have it fall off and take the stance of "leave or turn gay"? If no - do you take the same stance on women feeling tricked/decived by men promising commitment in order to get sex and then do bare minimum/low contact and the men taking the stance "leave or turn gay?"	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 10:53 AM
5	It's cruel to deprive your spouse of sex and also expect monogamy from them Hi Charming_Coffee; I have two questions that I hope you can explain from your standpoint 1: Is it reasonable to have the expectation that your partner should want to have sex with you? 2: If the women is affected by external factors that reduces her sexdrive - is it reasonable to expect that she goes lengths to solve it for her sake and the relationship?	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 10:43 AM
2	It's cruel to deprive your spouse of sex and also expect monogamy from them Would you agree that women are more sexually active/responsive during dating/first months in the relationship and then have it fall off? If yes - what words would you use to explain why men should be content with the change?	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 10:35 AM
8	It's cruel to deprive your spouse of sex and also expect monogamy from them Interesting topic, I find the explanations from women to be a conundrum regarding it. My understanding of the research and own empirical experience is that women are more active in responding positively to sexual contact from their partner and also initiating sex more often during the first periods of the relationship (1-24 months). After that it slows down and is instead morphed into the idea of “Men have an active sexuality and women a reactive one” to explain the decline. Important to note is…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 10:20 AM