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social issuesStatisticianBig6210/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/11/22 07:27 PM
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You know it's interesting how feminists give lip service to the patriarchy also harming men and privileging women. But they never actually talk about how and why that happens. They usually do from what I've seen - it's just that their explanations fail and usually beg the question. Also, why do you never see feminists engaged in original scholarship on the topic to begin with? Why is it always non-feminists who are asking the right questions, and pushing our understanding on these topics? What t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/05/23 09:11 PM
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I know often it's not intentional, but how is it possible that people genuinely don't see men hurting? They usually do see it, but the response is one or more of the following: It's men's fault (in one way or another) Men's issues don't need to be taken seriously until women's issues are solved Men don't have any issues and are just unused to "gender equality" The pendulum is swinging but things will become more balanced soon Men deserve to suffer (because of simplistic ideas about the past, mal…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/05/23 08:19 PM
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I like how you've categorized the topics. Is there any kind of update section that talks about developments related to previously covered cases or issues?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/05/23 07:59 PM
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Actual power, that is, the power to affect change yourself and not rely on convincing others to do it for you, was still majority in the hands of men. There's no such thing as "actual power" in the sense you're describing - "convincing others to do something for you" is in part how any organized institution functions, which is why "hard power" versus "soft power" is a significantly limited form of analysis. Actual feminist theory continues to say that the patriarchy hurts men too, specifically m…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/05/23 07:38 PM
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What the actual fuck is this response? No, the point was that getting raped wasn't the primary form of sexual selection and reproduction. We could spend all day criticizing traditional conservatism and biological essentialism, but this sort of reply strikes me as purely reactionary. The level of moral superiority some modern men think they have over men throughout the ages is staggering. History is not a line on which we march toward goals like gender equality.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/05/23 02:07 AM
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To the extent the hyperbole "always pregnant" is taken seriously - even though earlier societies had superstitions around pregnancy timing and tried their hands at all sorts of birth control methods - there's a wide range between virgin leper and Genghis Khan. Humans are jealous things, you know, especially women. Thought I was in PPD or something reading this. I really don't see how that's relevant at all since I'm not suggesting they shared the same "prehistoric Harry Styles." Dominant men wer…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/05/23 01:59 AM
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Humans were "quite primitive" for an exponentially longer period than they've been modernized or industrialized, and there have been primitivist societies that persisted at length.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/23 10:17 PM
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What you said is untrue, and my previous comment states my disagreement with it, on that basis, off the bat. "The dominant man at the time" was more akin to Harry Styles than Harvey Weinstein, generally speaking. No rape necessary when women were largely attracted to that "dominant" man (men would be more accurate).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/23 10:11 PM
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If only this approach were used in academia more often... saving this for the weekend since it's a pretty long read. Thanks for sharing this.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/23 10:02 PM
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There isn't any female bashing in this comment section at the time I'm posting this comment. It doesn't seem close to heading that way, either. If anything in earlier times more individuals had a role in parenting including men participating in ways that would seem non traditional to us. "Tradition" might not be the best way to draw a line in the sand on this topic. For many societies, tradition includes being less individualistic, which places men, women, and even children in overlapping roles …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/23 09:38 PM
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"More common" is different from "the norm"; any society where theft, murder, rape, and other detrimental behaviors are more prevalent than socially harmonious behaviors - not stealing, senselessly killing, raping, and so on - doesn't stick around long. Aside from that, cultural anthropology research at the micro-level perspective (e.g. symbolic interactionism) has found taboos against all of those things, in "traditional" societies, even without modern legal institutions.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/23 09:16 PM
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Which is probably why that largely isn't what occurred. There's some ruddy evolutionary psychology based on similarly weak claims, which somehow pass without criticism whenever I've seen them lately. It's a shame that essential aspects of the biology "baby" sometimes get thrown out in the biological essentialist bathwater or as a reactionary move against traditional conservative beliefs. You have it backwards: "Dominant" men weren't He-Man thugs dragging women off to a dark cave to forcibly impr…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/23 09:07 PM
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Here's a litmus test for you to determine just how much capacity for empathy for men as human beings she has in her. Review the Depp v Heard case with her. Thanks for this! I was thinking of a way to wake up a friend in an abusive relationship, and this seems like it might work since he was on top of the Depp case from beginning to end.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/23 03:49 PM
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Perfect example. Progressives on social media claim others are "not ready for that conversation" on so many topics (usually pretty widely discussed), but when you look at the suicide stats among older white men in rural areas... the good ol' iron knee.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/23 03:42 PM
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What I find really bothering about Canada is how gung ho the supporters of VAWG policies are, to the point people take grave offense to wanting to end violence against everyone and treating it as an "All Lives Matter" thing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/04/23 03:02 PM
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Not at all, which is why I mentioned ascribing more autonomy rather than agency in my opening remarks. Subtle but important distinction. The external factors are paid lip service to but ultimately portrayed as self-imposed, with the precursors to these "masculine subscriptions" left poorly outlined. Read the comments on the article to see the general takeaways of many readers.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/04/23 01:06 PM
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Despite women making great gains in being able to provide, even becoming the primary breadwinners in many marriages, men's role has not changed. Households where women are the primary provider are more likely to go through divorce and men who make less than their partner are more likely to cheat. Provision at the domestic level vs. provision at the communal or societal level underscores this difference. Why this is framed as a mentality men subscribe to rather than a reality with which they cont…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/04/23 01:30 AM
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Did you see a certain post on r/RedditLies? I saw that not too long ago, so I'm just wondering if that prompted your post. There's a lot of pseudoscientific female supremacy content on social media in which users talk about how men need women (ironically reducing them to birthing capabilities) but women don't need men and can do everything they can do. I'm sure you've seen this sort of thing, where people talk about sperm banks, how women could just "easily" take over the vacant jobs, how utopia…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/12/22 12:17 AM
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So I wonder, if they're invading such spaces to preech their gospel and offer the Salvation, but its just their own faith they're eager to share? Or is it some more organized form of online political activism? Probably some strange mixture of these. When they go into a space with mentally vulnerable men and do this stuff, it really shows, like others pointed out in the comments on my #DisbelieveMen post, they don't care at all about men's genuine experiences.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/11/22 04:41 AM
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The standard support I've seen in my time on Reddit has been the cookie cutter recommendation to join MensLib (which still gets complaints for not being a supportive enough "ally"). The way it gets recommended by default on both popular and less trafficked posts/subs, and at times in male-centered spaces like AskMen, almost looks like digital astroturfing. I don't think that's actually the case, but it's still eerie to click on a profile and see 99% of the comment history in feminist subs and no…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/11/22 02:27 AM
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A previous post here talked about how typically thoughtful/evidence-focused progressives become utterly irrational when it comes to men. I can't tell you how many times I've seen someone make the logical jump from the claim that a member of x group hurt a woman or minority, so naturally it might create distrust, fear, etc. to blanket justifications of virtually any reaction, like the ones mentioned in your comment.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/11/22 01:57 AM
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That was one of my ideas to post about prior to changing course, so I'm glad you've decided to do it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/11/22 06:57 PM
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What kind of movement that claims to be for gender equality would create a hierarchy of gender in their very structure? What sense does that make? It only makes sense under a parochial view that you're empowering the oppressed against their oppressors.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/11/22 05:51 PM
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I'm going to fill in a third option as advocate from a position of addressing the issues themselves, and caring about men as fellow humans. The more you concern yourself with the optics, the harder it is to be transparent when needed, and if there's anything men's advocacy doesn't need more of, it's lack of transparency.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/11/22 12:15 AM
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That's great, but without asking, there's no way of telling why those other men believe that. What they're saying would happen actually does happen, and it's probably not helpful to sweep it under the rug BOM ("by other men") style like people do when talking about stranger violence. There are too many people who pretend women have little or no influence on these norms, to the detriment of all involved.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/11/22 12:04 AM
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Can't admit to something that isn't present. I'm not playing anymore, though. Not even entertaining, just obtuse. Instead of bad-faith childish responses, you could attempt to behave like an adult, especially if that "93" represents your birth year.
/r/MensRights16/11/22 11:24 PM
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There's no contradiction, just lack of basic reading comprehension skills on your part. You could try growing up, or at least improve your trolling.
/r/MensRights16/11/22 11:17 PM
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Not what I'm saying at all, but your comprehension skills are below poor. Belief isn't necessary to understand the data you posted. I thought that was obvious from the context. Me talking about your immaturity is another story.
/r/MensRights16/11/22 11:08 PM
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Some believe maturity naturally comes with age, but this is one of many examples of arrested development that proves otherwise.
/r/MensRights16/11/22 03:35 AM
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Belief isn't necessary. Some basic literacy skills, knowledge of descriptive statistics and criminology, BJS data, and intellectual honesty are, however. The most explicitly violent victimization skews male considerably. Other forms, such as child abuse, are less skewed but usually still have greater victimization of males except for most offenses under "sexual offenses."
/r/MensRights16/11/22 03:11 AM
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Am I the only one who has noticed this hypocrisy? Nope. Do you think this hypocrisy pushes young people away from the left? Yup. How do people generally react when you try to talk about this in your experience? I try to steady the discussion and see if we can get on the same page at a basic level, but a lot of the ideas about gender that are supposed to be progressive just aren't true, fair, or even sensible. The mental gymnastics that props this up isn't any single idea or argument, so the mome…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/11/22 02:45 AM
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Failure to understand legal definitions and to distinguish between victimization and violent victimization by disaggregating the data. Sex offenses include indecent exposure, lewd acts, and other offenses that don't entail physical harm, and the same applies to human trafficking and assault; consult a lawyer for the finer details. Additionally, women are more likely to report sex offenses (the category with the greatest disparity), intimidation, and coercion, among other factors.
/r/MensRights16/11/22 02:07 AM
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The headline of the post is misleading since only three years of that time period had the number of female victims exceeding male victims. By the way, to be fully up to date, greater male victimization still holds true over this time period (and far back into the past recorded data): https://www.statista.com/statistics/423245/us-violent-crime-victims-by-gender/ One look at your profile should be a cautionary tale about pointless contrarianism and tying political ideology to one's core identity. …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/11/22 01:33 AM
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...especially by a user named babylock, it's nauseating. This is the user my first ever post on here was about. Her explanation of hyperagency was replete was misinformation from the first line. She portrayed it as "male hyperagency" and "female hypoagency," a total distortion of the concept by essentialism. (I pointed out in my comment that maybe it's projection.) This person seems to have an ideologically warped perspective that groups any male-focused content under the "manosphere" label. I w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/09/22 08:24 AM
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What do men's advocates want? The advancement of physical, mental, and social well-being for boys and men. Bad faith answers include: Take down feminism (and no, criticism is not the same thing) "Oppress" anyone or uphold the status quo to keep "male privilege" Blame women for everything Advocacy can range from raising awareness and donating money to volunteering in male-supportive spaces and even creating them yourself. Download our media kit: http://www.mensadvunited.org/ (not a real link). Th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/09/22 08:10 AM
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You're right, but thats not now gender essentialism (society) sees things. That's more a feature of gender roles (which represent a dualistic bundle of traits relative to each other) than societal distinctions between masculinity and femininity themselves. In other words, when you examine sociocultural beliefs and institutions in any given society (even those with rigid gender role typecasting), you don't see masculinity = hard, aggressive, etc., femininity = soft, passive, etc. in the absolute.…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/09/22 06:30 AM
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That's an interesting series of comments. A naked Chris Hemsworth in Ghostbusters isn't the type of attention most men realistically encounter, so I envision that example feeling alienating. Moreover, as understood from the warranted pushback against oversexualization of women, any increased sexualization of men might inflame body image issues. In fact, when gender-swapped sexualization happens, like pointing out male Olympians' bulges (combined with popular lingo like "Big Dick Energy"), it doe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/09/22 05:12 AM
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maybe male poledancing is like, the next big fad to cash in on? guys can enjoy getting hit on and girls can enjoy there being a specific space for that, that they, the girls, can leave afterwards. Male strippers and dancers already exist, so I don't see this translating to the average man's social life. One of my former coworkers was a PA for a while, and she had to look for a "male entertainer" for her boss. Besides being a weird request, it proved difficult: Her boss rejected dozens of her cho…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/09/22 04:37 AM
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Rather than delay entry, couldn't it be more effective to target their early development? It reminds me of the "every day is international men's day" phenomenon: People think many general audience books, shows, etc. are already "for boys" instead of providing rudimentary lessons and entertainment. To activists steeped in literary theory and the range of textual analyses from women's studies and "men's studies" (usually women's studies 2.0), an overt "boy power" text would likely seem laughable, …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/09/22 03:51 AM
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I find stuff like this so frustrating to hear because it is actually the exact opposite. It is (most) "girls who don't like smart boys". Why? Because being shy, introverted, studious, aka all the hallmarks of being a "nerd" are seen as unmasculine, and therefore feminine, and therefore bad, traits. Which is why nerds are picked on, and why cheerleaders pine for football captains and not chess club members. This part of your comment might be colored by personal experience. I do recall you saying …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/09/22 03:37 AM
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I lost a whole lengthy reply, so I'll just offer up a briefer point in my weariness. The aggressive denigration of male characters in combination with over-the-top emphasis on female protagonists' power usually makes those fictional women more unlikeable (aka hard to root for) than the antagonists themselves, and when criticism of this is handwaved away as "reactionary" misogyny, it invites no reflection or change of course. There's a major difference between amplifying existing themes in your w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/09/22 05:30 AM
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By "those things," what are you referring to?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/22 11:02 PM
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Men do validate other men's feelings, but they're frequently told that a) they're doing it wrong, b) they're being misogynistic, or c) both. You see this on Reddit when men vent about relationship problems. Women's spaces are rife with contemptuous generalizations and harsh judgments about men; if men are allowed to express themselves freely, unsavory judgments about women can also come out. If these groups are left to their own devices, cooler heads within them can and do prevail (if they're av…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/22 10:50 PM
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No disagreement there, but my original point is not to get caught up in their flame wars. One way to approach that is to respond to an argument, but limit responding to specific individuals who forward the argument (like some verified Twitter feminist). Those people believe prejudice against men is justified and are committed to this as an ideological position; many average people aren't but don't recognize their prejudice against men as actual prejudice simply because it's socially acceptable.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/22 07:48 AM
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You're fine. I realize that no one is a mind reader. Part of the disagreement might lie in which texts you consider "seminal"; regardless, I disagree with the notion that the cultural context absolves the authors of (particularly insidious) prejudice, especially where essentialism and/or motte-and-bailey arguments rear their heads. This resembles how feminist epistemology frequently blurs the lines between man-hating and "legitimate cultural critique" despite theorists assuring the reader the go…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/22 07:40 AM
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A few. Some are accessible, such as pointing out the persistent empathy gap; others require much more legwork, such as critical examination of the concept of "oppression."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/22 07:08 AM
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I had a feeling someone would ask this, so I probably should've addressed it. I don't think that "battle" should be avoided entirely, which is why I chose the words "can't just respond." Unfortunately, the perverse defense that opposing said narratives is proof they're true is literally put forth by feminist academics. I'm suggesting that to seriously begin "clearing the air" about misandric social constructs, men's advocates have to tackle the psychology of prejudice against men, which includes…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/22 06:31 AM
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While the downvotes are unfortunate, where did you get the idea that this is a claim from another party? I read most of the same texts myself. "Basing their feminism on the hatred of men" and "rife with misandry" are qualitatively different statements.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/22 06:03 AM
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"Attacking feminism" is, in my view, a ridiculous and unproductive idea...unless your goal is to just be labelled as a misogynist. That's something people are happy to do in a split second already. Trying to convince anyone invested in being a misandrist to abandon it is a waste of time. It might be helpful if LWMA mods were to hold a moratorium on feminism-related posts for some brief time. Trying to "gain ground" might not be the best mindset, either. If someone perceives your gaining ground a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/22 05:59 AM
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Like clockwork, sadly. Why do people believe this? The seminal texts of "real" feminism are rife with misandry.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/22 05:40 AM
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Women for most of our history were very close to property - they had little or no education, their husband owned everything, they could be raped at will, they could not have jobs or money of their own, they could not get divorced. You might as well argue that an enslaved nanny had "just as much influence over society" as her owner because she was "raising kids and shaping the minds and beliefs of the next generation". Gish gallop is hard to refute by design, especially when it's this hyperbolic.…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/22 05:24 AM
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Most of this is right, but depending on what war you look at and how long after the war you keep tracking the "long tail" of morbidity and mortality, often as many or more women and children die as a result of war as do male combatants. It's not always the case, but a lot more noncombatants than you seem to think die as a result of disease, malnutrition, homelessness, collateral damage or war crimes in a typical war. Men are among those noncombatants, so no, "as many or more women and children" …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/22 04:41 AM
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There's a great comment by the user cookage on a similar article dated way back: The phrase "boys don't cry" and "man up" can be really harmful. But we need to appreciate the social context of those phrases, by in large despite all the changes in our society men are largely expect to fulfil their traditional gender role of provider- this means material as well as emotional provider to children and women. The fact is people want the men in their lives to be strong, I think most men are on some le…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/08/22 09:23 PM
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True. I'd argue that a lot of the attempts at extending an olive branch happen in online spaces, however. Worse, casual offline feminists searching online for information about topics like hyperagency might run into that laughable attempt at an explanation. And the constant references to the "manosphere" made me think the same. That comment is just loaded with irony and hypocrisy all around.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/08/22 08:52 PM
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In some ways, at first glance, it seems like a reasonable point, as feminists often bring up the ways in which social norms and pressures, tradition, and cultural inertia make change difficult. However, the way these “hyperagency” arguments function to reinforce the status quo reveals them to be regressive. Feminists often bring up the ways in which social norms and pressures, tradition, and cultural inertia present obstacles to altering feminine expectations and roles; sometimes they reinforce …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/08/22 10:31 AM
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Unlikely, sad to say. Here's an interesting "case study" re: hyperagency from a post on the AskFeminists sub. Going to put my comments in bold for easier skimming since it's a long one. I don’t know if it’s “just” a dogwhistle, but I do see it almost exclusively used online by manosphere or manosphere sympathizing types. Perhaps “catchphrase” or the even stronger “shibboleth” would be a better descriptor, although I’m not totally willing to rule out the idea’s utility, only it’s most common appl…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/08/22 10:22 AM
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