Stergeary Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
153	Many women don't realize that emotions are not reality.	Debate	Stergeary	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/24 12:02 PM
66	If people paid attention to men who expressed any emotion other than anger, men would probably start expressing more emotions than just anger.	CMV	Stergeary	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/23 11:41 AM
11	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish.	CMV	Stergeary	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 12:47 PM
8	People like to give "healthy" advice, but what people want and need is unhealthy advice.		Stergeary	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/23 12:45 PM

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–	Life as a woman in west is so much easier It's not cherrypicking if you had the ability to read the actual title of the thread. The West is a case study in what happens when men take responsibility for society and improve civilization overall by building up institutions that protect and provide for everyone. Men's own institutions become a path for his own self-obsolescence. Since he optimized the security of the nation by keeping a functional military and police force women think safety is a default instead of the continued labor of me…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 04:32 PM
–	Life as a woman in west is so much easier I can accept that there's a certain truth to that, but the reality is that class inequality is now also informed by gender dynamics because feminism brought economics into the equation of sexual equality. Like it or not, the traditional system of men taking care of women meant that economics were centered around family, which means that there really is a class of people who can band together regardless of gendered lines, because a father's money provides for his daughter, and when she's married …	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 04:21 PM
–	Life as a woman in west is so much easier I know you want to twist this the other way to make women look better, but a burden is a burden. Women are by far more likely to go to the doctor at any sign of discomfort and complain about symptoms that simply do not end up being diagnosable or treatable as a medical condition for the doctor, whereas men are far more likely to go to the doctor when he feels the problem is significant enough to burden other human beings with his distress. So yes, of course women live longer, because they burden…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 04:07 PM
–	Life as a woman in west is so much easier The answer you were looking for is "none". You're not interested in talking further because you have no response for this actual thread of conversation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 03:49 PM
1	Many young men are viewed as blobs Like antinatalism?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 10:34 AM
3	The Red Pill's greatest appeal is that it offers immediate individual agency rather than long-term societal change The problem is that the collective self-improvement of all men actually harms women's interests in the short term, because it teaches men that they have value and do not need to be subservient to what women think, that it is reasonable for men to hold boundaries that displease women, and that it is allowed for men to express emotions that make women uncomfortable. But at the end of it though, everyone benefits when men are more masculine. Even women do not actually want men that just do everythi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 10:30 AM
–	Life as a woman in west is so much easier Yeah, with the clothes he was wearing, he was just asking for it. If he didn't want it, his body has a way of shutting that whole thing down, right?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 10:26 AM
–	Life as a woman in west is so much easier Which countries in the West is it that women aren't allowed to show their face?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 10:23 AM
–	Life as a woman in west is so much easier Then we'd have to get rid of concepts like privilege. Because if life is just as hard for men as it is for women, then people can't argue for the existence of male privilege while denying the existence of female privilege at every turn.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 10:21 AM
–	Life as a woman in west is so much easier Women are the majority of users of medical services in terms of both emergency as well as routine care. Larger sums of money go towards female-coded medical issues such as breast cancer than they do towards male-coded medical issues. Entire fields of medical study as well as clinical departments are dedicated entirely to female-coded treatment disciplines whereas none exist for men. By all reasonable measure, it is women that are disproportionately burdening the medical system and receiving disp…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 10:18 AM
–	Life as a woman in west is so much easier People keep arguing that class conflict is the only real conflict and asking for peace along racial and sexual lines in order to engage in class warfare, but peace on whose terms? As far as the men are concerned, "stop arguing" means women need to meet the man where he is at. And for women, "stop arguing" means men need to meet the woman where she is at. In the absence of either of these two things happening, the arguing will continue. Telling people to just shut up isn't going to end the confli…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 10:08 AM
2	If you are the type of feminist to call men paranoid or closeted creeps for not wanting to approach women, while also praising men for following the "cross the street rule," then you are clearly a hypocrite with an agenda. “Society” considers it women’s responsibility to constantly monitor the men around them to avoid being physically harmed. It is nice when men take on some of that burden and do some comparably low-stakes monitoring themselves. That is considerate. That is untrue. Society has always considered it your father, your uncles, and your brothers' responsibility to monitor men in order to protect you from being physically harmed. There was no expectation that a woman would protect herself or another wom…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 10:02 AM
6	How do you think this "Red Pill recruiting" happens? The left as it currently stands ideologically will never have a male figure as a role model, because it has completely been co-opted by feminism. You cannot hold a culturally unchallengeable belief that refuses to engage with the perspectives of men as a basis of its beliefs, while disempowering men and maintaining plausible deniability that it is doing so, AND still expect to have masculine role models rise in support of your cause. Ideologically, the progressive agenda has far too much in simu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/12/25 10:48 AM
1	Some Women Are So Obsessed With Older Men That It Makes You Wonder . . . When women like older men, it's mostly not because the man is older -- it's the things that correlate with older age. Status, money, career, experience, ability, confidence, detachment, knowledge, fitness -- these are things that take time to accumulate unless you are born into lucky circumstances, and almost no one can be born with all of them. It takes until at least your late 20s to early 30s for most people to start getting a good chunk of these things taken care of, and even then possibly u…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/25 11:17 AM
1	Would a man 30-40 who dresses, lives and (in some ways) looks like 25 be attractive or unattractive, particularly to men/women 20-30? I think Hirohiko Araki is like 65 years old now, and an inside joke with his fans is that he is immortal: https://i.redd.it/vi6wx1ktm2h41.jpg But not just him, a lot of Asians -- especially celebrities who make money based on their appearance -- can look 20-30 even when they're well into their 40-50s.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/25 11:06 AM
1	Would a man 30-40 who dresses, lives and (in some ways) looks like 25 be attractive or unattractive, particularly to men/women 20-30? I'm sorry for the way people have treated you that you are now stuck thinking this way.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/25 11:04 AM
1	A lot of women don't want emotional intelligence from men, they want emotional validation from men. Except they are real, and I don't need to convince you, but it is very telling how immediately dismissive and invalidating you are as soon as something challenges your worldview.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/25 11:26 AM
1	A lot of women don't want emotional intelligence from men, they want emotional validation from men. Except that it's the opposite; it's men who form close bonds whereas women form shallow bonds. You are basically telling me that women think knowing someone grew up Buddhist, or was raised to be scared of white police officers, or that they are pro-choice, or that they think eating animals is murder, is somehow enough to actually know who a person really is, and I don't think so. I have a friend who is Black, bleeding heart liberal, as woke as they come, and believes reparations is social justic…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/25 08:39 AM
1	A lot of women don't want emotional intelligence from men, they want emotional validation from men. Men seem much more comfortable with having people in their lives with diametrically opposed views on things like politics, religion, race, and social issues. Women seem much more willing to ostracize, bully, or socially isolate members to the outgroup based on disagreements, for everything from big ideological issues to small personal issues.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/12/25 12:42 PM
–	People need to stop glazig neurotypicals here If social media has shown us anything, it's that plenty of socially inept women can get dates and relationships in spite of their socially inept behavior.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/25 12:10 PM
1	Expecting your date to state their ultimate intentions with you on day 1 is WILDLY unrealistic. There is no such thing to men as "what are you looking for" without the "with you" part. I've met women at different points in my life where I wanted different things from them specifically because they were different women. If a woman is physically attractive but not very emotionally mature, then I'm looking for a short term with her. If a woman is kind and easygoing but is not looking to have children, then I'm looking for a relationship with her but not marriage. Every single woman is going t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/25 12:04 PM
0	A lot of women start to sound like the very men they call toxic when defending their point — ironically. No it isnt	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/25 11:42 AM
0	Women not being able to get and stay in good-quality relationships is embarrassing This is a really one-sided sexual dynamic in that only a woman could ever layer on criteria like this while complaining about their relationship woes. If men had these exact same complaints, they would instantly be hit with "how he needs to do better": But they’re not all politically aligned Have you introspected on your own political opinions and why they may not suit the opposite sex? Maybe stop watching Andrew Tate. They don’t all want the same future. Have you tried being less fantastical ab…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/11/25 01:14 PM
1	Why is the conversation about men defending themselves against abusive women so weird? Except that is only if you apply your specific narrow worldview. From a biological and social perspective that regards women as having inherent value due to their ability to reproduce, it makes perfect sense and is in no way irrational, because a woman is capable of reproduction regardless of how strong she is. And so even if she is stronger than a man, it is socially unacceptable to hurt her because of her inherent ability to create life for the next generation. Whether it is shameful for a man…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/09/25 09:53 AM
1	Why is the conversation about men defending themselves against abusive women so weird? So now you're moving the goalposts. You're trying to compare women of one class to women of another class, which therefore of course there will be differences in value. Since women's inherent value is in their ability to create life, if your society values white lives more than black lives, then black women will be treated as having less value obviously. But if you compare across genders between white men and white women, versus black men and black women, you will find the same effect -- People …	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/09/25 11:58 PM
0	Why is the conversation about men defending themselves against abusive women so weird? Do you have a summary or a statement or something about what you are trying to say? I'm attempting to find something cohesive in what you just said and am failing to do so.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/09/25 04:18 AM
3	Why is the conversation about men defending themselves against abusive women so weird? Of course it doesn't, and you know this too. "Not hurting women" has to do with the inherent social value women have in their continued existence as a privilege of being female, not with their physical weakness. Otherwise, it would be socially acceptable to hit stronger or more dominant women, but it's not. There are plenty of things that are weaker than us but have no value in their continued existence, or even negative value (i.e. actively causes harm) that we are completely okay with harming.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/09/25 12:28 AM
3	Why is the conversation about men defending themselves against abusive women so weird? Good thing we also have the gift of perspectives, which allows us to challenge narratives that are put forth in order to conveniently put women in a positive light, and critically asking ourselves if it is possible to come up with perspectives that don't simply reach the conclusion that feminists have decided a priori to look for in their explanation: "Don't hit women" comes from a place of women being held in regard due to their high innate value for their ability to give life to the next gener…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/09/25 11:10 AM
23	Why is the conversation about men defending themselves against abusive women so weird? You mean female privilege, right? If there was a social norm of "never ever hit a man", you'd definitely call that a male privilege. Otherwise we'd have to accept that all of the upsides of being a man in society is also just benevolent sexism against men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/09/25 12:42 AM
6	Women frame their own toxic behaviors as harmless while condemning men’s The women who say this would not be willing to work on themselves enough to be able to land a 100k job as well as accept a husband that will stay home all day.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/09/25 08:45 PM
5	The RP concept of "She's not yours, its just your turn", is completely in line with the ideals BP/ Feminism pushes in society They're difficult to maintain precisely because of the messaging that gets pushed in mainstream culture. If feminism didn't lay the groundwork for "anything men can do women can do" and selling the lie that women really can have everything in career and motherhood and liberation all at the same time, we would have been in a far better position to push back when the class elites began pulling benefits that support families and instead pushing for higher single earner income. Instead, women joined…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/25 01:29 PM
1	The overturning of Roe v Wade should have made women (particularly American women) more empathetic towards their male counterparts, not less You can use that logical fallacy to "prove" all sorts of things. If women are underperforming in society and they think it's the patriarchy's fault, then there's cause and effect at play.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/25 01:20 PM
-1	How should the playing field evened out for men who seek casual sex, when men and women are not equally open to casual sex? And yet statistically, far more women have participated in casual sex than men have, so I don't think that point holds.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/25 12:28 PM
1	Millionaire ‘regrets’ not marrying wealthy ex so she could ‘divorce him for money’ It was James Sexton who said something to the effect of, "Whether you have a prenup or not, you have a prenup. If you have one, then that's your prenup. If you don't, then the state decides what your prenup is based on whatever laws are in effect the year that you get divorced."	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/25 12:25 PM
1	Am I crazy for feeling bad for Raja Jackson…? I would agree until I saw the part where his dad called in during his livestream and basically called him a gay little bitch. The same dad who then goes on stream afterwards to say his son's "never been the same after his mother was murdered." His abusive father and the situation with his mother has basically denied him an actual chance at life. I know that if anyone who criticizes him were put into his same situation, they would have come out the same way.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/25 12:20 PM
–	Is "Women And Children" a Misandrist Term? I think that everyone should be allowed to flee the country during a war. I think you can only really say this from a position of privilege, when your entire nation and people aren't facing an existential threat. If the military draft didn't exist, Hitler would be having afternoon tea in London while the Japanese flagship Yamato would be docked at Pearl Harbor.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/25 12:15 PM
–	Is "Women And Children" a Misandrist Term? Men, generally, could survive for longer in the cold water. Man, that sounds a lot like the "blacks have thicker skin than whites and so they don't feel as much pain" thing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/25 12:06 PM
1	The overturning of Roe v Wade should have made women (particularly American women) more empathetic towards their male counterparts, not less You can't simultaneously try to take the moral highground AND try to imply that men's value should be determined based on women's sexual desire for them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/25 12:03 PM
4	The RP concept of "She's not yours, its just your turn", is completely in line with the ideals BP/ Feminism pushes in society The difference is that most of people who stick with traditional roles have expectations that match more closely with biological reality. Men generally tend to feel more fulfilled when they are providing for and protecting people and things that they love, and women generally tend to feel more fulfilled when they are caretaking and nurturing people and things that they love. There may be endless philosophizing about the social systems that interact with people's base propensity to fit into a rol…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/25 12:00 PM
5	Let's be honest: men also have different rules for the women they're attracted to. Women have always had the right to live their life however they wanted if they were willing to abandon the security and resources provided by the physical power of men. You can literally just walk out the front gate of your village and leave, but there will be no men to give you shelter, food, or safety from nature. Women are not literally chained to anything keeping them inside of the society they are in; they just want the benefits of the things that men have built and are willing to tolerate …	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/25 11:46 AM
0	Why are men less willing to help each other than women? I hope you enjoyed your fiction writing prompt exercise, because you just made up a whole fantasy world all by yourself about men's capabilities while making assumptions about men's internal world and why they do what they do, all inside of your head.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/25 11:40 AM
1	Why it's controversial when a man says "women are attracted to a small percentage of men" when women themselves agree with this statement in their spaces ? On the contrary, EVERYONE is boring once you get to know them, like really know everything about them, as in get married and live together and all that jazz. Think about it, what person on earth knows more about you than yourself? Probably nobody. And do YOU think you are truly interesting all the time? You're probably spending most of your time brushing your teeth, taking a shower, using the toilet, cooking and eating food, going to school, working a job, driving home, exercising, shopping, etc…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/25 11:30 AM
13	The RP concept of "She's not yours, its just your turn", is completely in line with the ideals BP/ Feminism pushes in society You're exactly proving his point, which is that feminism thinks gender roles is a buffet line -- that women get to pick-and-choose which parts of traditional roles they want men to be burdened with and which ones don't benefit women and should therefore be labeled toxic.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/25 11:22 AM
2	Feminist modern society has given women the freedom to choose non traditional paths, yet still expect men to uphold traditional roles while also compensating for the roles women left behind So you're okay with women getting called fat sluts as long as there's no law?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/25 10:43 PM
3	Feminist modern society has given women the freedom to choose non traditional paths, yet still expect men to uphold traditional roles while also compensating for the roles women left behind Well, at least you have internal consistency for both genders. But I would still contest that people can both have the right to say something others disagree with, and that what people say has an influence on others that is worth discussion.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/25 01:24 PM
6	Feminist modern society has given women the freedom to choose non traditional paths, yet still expect men to uphold traditional roles while also compensating for the roles women left behind Are you okay with us saying boo fucking hoo, women get called fat sluts when they won't stop eating or sleeping around?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/25 11:45 AM
4	Feminist modern society has given women the freedom to choose non traditional paths, yet still expect men to uphold traditional roles while also compensating for the roles women left behind What are you talking about? There are massive effects for the existence of traditional gender roles regardless of whether or not you personally choose to participate. You will be professionally impacted for promotions if people expect a certain male archetype to fulfill higher level managerial or executive positions. You will be romantically impacted if women expect a certain type of male provider for their sexual partners. You will be socially impacted if the way you present your masculinity is…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/25 10:34 AM
0	Is sex a need? Depends on how you define need That's like saying "What shortens people's lives is thirst, not a water treatment plant." I hear having a society that builds a water treatment plant for access to clean water is pretty effective at reducing the number of people dying of thirst in the community. And I would also wager that if you had societal conditions that brought more people together into sexually fulfilling relationships that the levels of depression would severely drop as well.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/25 09:52 AM
20	Feminist modern society has given women the freedom to choose non traditional paths, yet still expect men to uphold traditional roles while also compensating for the roles women left behind This is the feminism motte-and-bailey: They are either for equality, in which case the movement should be supported by both men and women, but it also means that feminism must also support men when women have undue privilege over them due to double standards -- this is what proponents of feminism turn to when discussing why men should be allies, why feminism should be mainstream, why everyone should be a feminist, etc. OR, feminism is not for equality, in which case the movement is sexist, meani…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/25 09:44 AM
0	Feminist modern society has given women the freedom to choose non traditional paths, yet still expect men to uphold traditional roles while also compensating for the roles women left behind From my experience, people only ever bring up the "personal choice/personal responsibility" argument when they want to avoid discussing the societal effects of the issue at hand. While it's true that you have the freedom to make choices, the top-down effects of what we're doing as a society has a huge influence over the choices that people are compelled to make, and looking at those influences are far more illuminating than meeting every issue with an evasive "Just do what you want, man."	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/25 09:38 AM
3	Are men remotely offended by the idea that sex with them ruins and devalues a person? Isn't that the crux of the issue? Women are generally physically weaker than men, and so are unable to compete physically for power against men. It's not that they can't participate, it's that participating is not in a woman's best interests because they would lose.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/25 09:33 AM
–	The fixation on “purity” in women is often rooted in male insecurity, not morality. You're the one trying to make it seem like a woman "getting laid" is the same as a man "getting laid" just because you semantically use the same phrase to describe two different things. Explain to me what a woman has to do to "get laid". Walk outside, talk to the first man she meets, ask him if he wants to have sex no strings attached, done. Now explain to me what a man has to do to "get laid" -- and now you know why it's not the same thing, even though you want to think it is because it helps y…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/25 08:19 AM
–	The fixation on “purity” in women is often rooted in male insecurity, not morality. Men are not jealous of women's ability to get fucked, because men don't want to get fucked; they want to fuck. There is a qualitative difference between "getting laid" as a woman versus "getting laid" as a man. When you show your friends her picture and tell them "I hit that", you share high fives, because everyone understands you put in the hard work and it paid off. If you get fucked by a guy and you go around telling all your friends you got fucked by this guy, no one is thinking in their hea…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/25 04:47 AM
–	The fixation on “purity” in women is often rooted in male insecurity, not morality. And women do not become whores just from sleeping with a man who she is committed to with a ring on her finger and a baby on the way with the only man she's slept with. Imagine if you find out a man has given significant sums of money to tens different women in his life in some kind of findom situation, and he still thinks back about those encounters from time to time because he really enjoyed giving women money with no commitment from her in return. That's the same sense of "what the fuck?" tha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/25 03:48 AM
–	The fixation on “purity” in women is often rooted in male insecurity, not morality. Everything about dating is about moving resources from the man to the woman, up to and including marriage and having children. Men initiate the dates, men pay for the dates, men generally get gifts for the woman and not the other way around, men generally are the ones to propoes and to pay for the wedding ring, men overwhelming pay more money for raising children and supporting the family -- the system of relationships, just like most societal systems, are designed to take labor and resources ou…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/25 03:01 AM
–	The fixation on “purity” in women is often rooted in male insecurity, not morality. The part of the brain that activates for physical disgust and moral disgust is biologically identical. Most men just feel a visceral feeling of disgust if they know their woman has slept around, especially with people he knows. It's the same feeling of disgust you might get when you hear about a white guy flying to South East Asia to have sex with local girls. You'd justify it with all sorts of reasons and might even look up feminist theories on power imbalances in relationships or scientific pa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/25 02:48 AM
–	The fixation on “purity” in women is often rooted in male insecurity, not morality. women are innately repulsed by poor men, yet actively continue to drain money from the men they date. curious 🧐	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/25 02:37 AM
3	Why do conservative men say that they despise liberal women, but are still open to dating them? I think casual material means they have loose enough sexual values that they would have sex with the man as long as he was attractive enough for her, and wife material means they have actual learned principles from their culture that makes commitment more important for them, meaning that she is less likely to disrespect him or cheat on him because she was raised to give peace to her man.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/25 02:13 AM
0	Why do conservative men say that they despise liberal women, but are still open to dating them? Then aggregate the data; it would point towards the fact that women date men who are richer, more educated, taller, and stronger, and that men have more success dating women when they fulfill these traditional and conservative expectations of men fulfilling their gender role. There is no epidemic of women dating poor dumb short weak men just because feminism took over the surface of the cultural landscape; the same markers that correlated with sexual and romantic success for men still correlate …	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/25 02:07 AM
2	The bluepill is by far the nastiest dating ideology Yes, normal people absolutely do get into relationships, no one is denying that. Some of them are happy, many of them are not, and almost everyone wishes they could get something from their relationship that their partner isn't giving them. Redpill is about understanding not just how relationships form, but also how to get more of what you want from one, whether from your partner specifically or from people in general. Bluepillers think that if a man wants something out of his relationships that…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/08/25 09:13 PM
8	The bluepill is by far the nastiest dating ideology I wouldn't have such a big problem with people believing in bluepill stuff, if only bluepill didn't also actively try to suppress people understanding and explaining reality. When there are studies about the types of choices men and women make in relationships, you can't whoosh away these scientific studies. When there are statistics and census data about who gets into relationships with who, you can't handwave away all the information we do have about objective reality with ✨magic✨ and how roma…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/08/25 01:28 PM
8	The bluepill is by far the nastiest dating ideology If people are unique then why study medicine? If everyone was unique then when you take an aspirin you might grow wings, while someone else sprouts a horn, while a third person gets rid of their headache. But in fact everyone is qualitatively similar, and quantitatively distributed in a normal curve. The truth is people are far less unique than they think they are, and that the traits that they share with other individuals in their group are far more than many care to admit because most of us ar…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/08/25 01:23 PM
4	The bluepill is by far the nastiest dating ideology Non-neediness is equal to invisibility when displayed by a man who women are not attracted to. We know you are wrong because there are millions of men who are non-needy, right now, but women don't notice them because she isn't attracted to him.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/08/25 01:20 PM
–	Is there change in the apprehension of male flight? Tell me you have no real response without telling me that you have no real response.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/08/25 10:05 AM
1	Is there change in the apprehension of male flight? Women's participation in the socioeconomic sphere still relies on the coerced consent of male labor, which the current system forcibly extracts out of men via hard, physical, infrastructural labor in exchange for disproportionately deflated wages. The capitalistic economy only functions insofar as men continue to provide for the fundamental physical institutions and structures that make the economy possible, this means delivery of goods via shipping and trucking, the roads and highways that tran…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/07/25 08:06 AM
–	Stop being emotionally vulnerable to women, your close male friends are the only ones who can actually handle it If you're in a relationship with someone who (literally anything women don't like), leave him. Stop complaining about men on social media.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/07/25 07:50 AM
–	Stop being emotionally vulnerable to women, your close male friends are the only ones who can actually handle it Every single one of these "I was vulnerable with my partner and she left me" stories get zero traction because it doesn't conform to the worldview that women draw their victimhood narrative from. They only want to validate the stories about men doing bad in relationships so that they can magnify those stories 100x to every social media outlet while ignoring the 10,000th time that they've heard a man had a girlfriend break up with him over shedding one tear.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/07/25 07:49 AM
–	Stop being emotionally vulnerable to women, your close male friends are the only ones who can actually handle it If she greets it with a lack of empathy or choose to weaponize it then she's not a woman I'd want to be in a relationship with. You've just removed 95% of the world's single female population from the dating pool. I'm sure some people luck out with that last 5%, but most people don't have that privilege.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/07/25 07:45 AM
0	What can a man expect for paying for a date? Sure, once sleeping with a lot of men is as hard to do as sleeping with a lot of women. Getting a man into bed versus getting a woman into bed is two completely diametrically opposite actions. It's like comparing the difficulty between giving a masage and receiving a massage and thinking because both activities have the word "massage" in it, it means they are identical.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/07/25 07:35 AM
1	What can a man expect for paying for a date? ...who is willing to spend it on a man. You've just narrowed yourself down to 5% of the world's female population.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/07/25 07:33 AM
3	What can a man expect for paying for a date? But doesn't she get a date out of it too? It's not like she's unilaterally "giving him" a date because he is also giving her a date.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/07/25 07:32 AM
0	What can a man expect for paying for a date? She already got your money's worth out of you; you would be doing her a favor if you stopped interacting with her after she got her free meal.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/07/25 07:31 AM
0	Passport bros don’t take advantage of third world women, it’s actually the other way around Except that it is. Not all, but a large part of the dating landscape does in fact involve competition and power dynamics, otherwise no one would need to choose their mate -- anyone can get with anyone and the whole world would live happily ever after. But that's obviously not the case; consciously or unconsciously, everyone leverages their resources in order to attract mates of the opposite sex who are themselves as attractive as possible, and these attractive traits are unequally distributed an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/25 12:52 PM
1	What alternatives to therapy would you like society to provide? That's like saying exercising with proper sleep and a good diet will fix cancer, heart disease, Alzheimer's, diabetes, and substance abuse disorder. It would constitute a fundamental step in the right direction, but "fix" is too much of a blanket term for problems with complex causes and presentations such as manic depression and schizophrenia.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/25 12:46 PM
1	Passport bros don’t take advantage of third world women, it’s actually the other way around That's like saying both men and women are free to compete in this arm wrestling competition, nothing is secure or a guarantee for anyone. And when the top winners for the competition all turn out to be men, you then complain and I tell you, "Are you suggesting women are disadvantaged because they aren't guaranteed to win the arm wrestling competition?" At least be honest with yourself and admit that there is this hugely disproportionate dynamic in dating where women simultaneously are allowed to…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/25 11:23 PM
2	What alternatives to therapy would you like society to provide? While women benefit more from engaging emotionally through words, it seems like men benefit more from engaging physically through action. Specifically, with other men, towards a common goal that is larger than themselves, and against common obstacles that they cooperate to overcome. Just like how therapy is in essence a clinically directed emotional conversation, I believe men need the equivalent of a clinically directed physical bootcamp where they can fulfill those three requirements above -- …	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/25 11:14 PM
1	Average guys are made to feel dirty for having a sexual desire You have a list of thought-terminating buzzwords you pull up when an idea that makes you uncomfortable crosses your path?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/25 10:08 PM
1	Average guys are made to feel dirty for having a sexual desire I don't really care how the phrase makes you feel, it's just what happens when you don't get parented properly, which increases the chance that she's for the streets. Somebody sure took time out of their day for something they claim not to give a fuck about though.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/25 09:43 PM
3	Guys, Befriending Women isn’t a Solution. That's the problem; women test and push boundaries all the time, and if you didn't grow up with positive father figures and male role models showing you how to hold boundaries against women, it's very easy for young men to grow up without learning that lesson properly. When a boy gets raised by his (single or helicopter) mom, raised by 92% of female childcare workers, and raised by his 77% of female teachers, these women in his life tend to be incapable of teaching a young man to specifically ho…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/25 06:45 AM
0	Average guys are made to feel dirty for having a sexual desire Yeah, and I'm saying for men, there is a qualitative difference between being with a partner who was raised by their parents to have principles that precluded them from ever taking pictures for their partner in a relationship because those were the values she grew up with, versus a woman who does not have those values and now decides to impose a restriction on all future partners based on the negative emotions she felt about the experience, whether it was resentment or pain or bitterness, by car…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/07/25 09:36 PM
-1	Average guys are made to feel dirty for having a sexual desire Because despite how we phrase it, the reality is no one is capable of "causing" you trauma. You are actually the person causing yourself trauma by how you respond to life events that also happen to everyone else. A partner treats you in a way you don't want? Happens all the time, what do you do about it, both internally and externally? Do you just let them do what they want or do you set a boundary and leave if they violate it? Do you tell yourself that you are a perpetual victim or do you decid…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/07/25 09:11 PM
2	There is no reward for being a male centered woman. Most likely? She is definitely the griftiest of grifters. She found the niche -- having a vagina while spouting shit to put down everyone else that has one. She periodically actually gets challenged when she shows up on channels other than her own, and watching her struggle to actually make a coherent point without returning to grifter drivel is like watching someone navigate a Mexican highway. I am really really sad that what was originally a self-improvement community basically got taken over …	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/25 06:11 AM
2	Average guys are made to feel dirty for having a sexual desire That's the problem; you did it for a previous partner, so you clearly didn't grow up and have parents that taught you their values as the reason for why you are avoiding that behavior in the present. The reason you are avoiding it is because you were traumatized by some guy you decided to be with, and now every guy after you has to deal with the results of that trauma. If you were raised to have a set of principles that precluded you from allowing men to treat you in such-and-such way, then that…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/25 06:00 AM
3	''Women aren't subjected to the draft therefor they shouldn't be able to vote'' is astoundingly bad logic The age of the draft expands during wartime, it doesn't remain static at 25. If your country's existence depended on repelling a foreign threat, it would make no sense to keep the draft at 25 if the alternative is that everyone dies and the nation collapses. For example, Ukraine has remobilization orders for men up to the age of 60, and are even using prisoners as conscripted soldiers.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/25 11:10 AM
1	Stop the "emotional labor" "Men want to be alone, but we don't want to be by ourselves."	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/25 10:19 AM
–	Why do some ladies do this? It's less awkward for her because she gets to get out of the interaction, but it puts all the awkwardness on the other party because she doesn't care that much about what happens to you after you leave.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/25 10:14 AM
–	Why do some ladies do this? Exactly -- Why would you wait until the conversation is nearly over? If you're going to ask for a number or a contact of any kind, you do it at the peak of your interaction. If the conversation is nearly over, that means either you were so boring that you never got things off the ground, or you waited so long that the vibe is dead. Even if she gave you a number, there's nothing to talk about anymore because your conversation died, but if you do it at the apex of your conversation and excuse your…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/25 10:13 AM
0	MGTOW And 4B Movements Are Just Different Sides Of The Same Coin Women have less issue decentering men because they have 50 ng/dL of testosterone in their veins rather than 800 ng/dL.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/25 10:04 AM
1	If the roles were reversed and women were held to the same dating standards as men they would be just as hateful and bitter Men who are 50 want women who are 21, but also when he was 45, and when he was 40, and when he was 35. And also, when they sleep with her, they will still find women who are 22 attractive -- therefore NOT hypergamy, just his innate preference. Women who make $20,000 are okay with dating a guy making $30,000. But once she gets with a man making (or herself gets a better job making) $250,000, now the guy making $30,000 is suddenly less attractive -- standards of attraction have changed RELATIVE to…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/25 07:55 AM
0	Women are dependent upon strange men for their safety, security, and comfort What do you do with your money? The large majority of it, day to day, what do you spend it on? Let's look at the top three daily expenditures of the average American: Housing (32.9%): For a house that was built by construction workers, of which 89% are men, not to mention the contractors, electricians, plumbers, and sewage workers that keep that house functional, which are also of course basically all men. Transportation (17%): Cars with a manufacturing sector that is 86% men, maintained by auto…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/25 07:41 AM
1	Why does it seem like women very rarely lust over a guy? How does a guy go about getting a woman to lust for him? That's a really funny way to frame the absolute dependence of women on the charity of men. Are women so utterly incapable that without men threatening to withhold validation, they become unable to improve themselves? What is this weaponized incompetence?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/25 07:19 AM
1	If the roles were reversed and women were held to the same dating standards as men they would be just as hateful and bitter You basically just explained feminism.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/25 05:55 AM
2	If the roles were reversed and women were held to the same dating standards as men they would be just as hateful and bitter When men's standards change, many women do not respond by changing themselves, but by trying to change everyone else. When men want slimmer women, they start HealthyAtAnySize social movements. When men want less promiscuous women, they make Instagram posts to "stop slut shaming".	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/25 03:43 AM
1	If the roles were reversed and women were held to the same dating standards as men they would be just as hateful and bitter I don't think you understand hypergamy. The idea is that as a woman gets to experience the things that she wants in a man, whether that is through having those things herself, or through getting attention from men who possess those things -- EVEN IF she has no chance at a long-term commitment from him -- the level of requirement for her to be attracted rise with relation to her experience. This means if she is 5'4" and makes $20,000 a year, she will require her dating options to be 5'6 and makin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/25 03:33 AM
2	Why does it seem like women very rarely lust over a guy? How does a guy go about getting a woman to lust for him? Reality speaks for itself. Men in relationships are by far more likely not to require outside validation, know how to flirt, and know how to escalate sexually without being awkward compared to women in relationships. Women are much more likely to require outside validation and reassurance, are good at being flirted with but will never engage first, and absolutely are awkward if they have to initiate the sexual escalation because they never have to practice.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/25 07:19 PM
2	Why does it seem like women very rarely lust over a guy? How does a guy go about getting a woman to lust for him? Men don't value these traits in women as much as women value them in men. Women don't have to make active effort so having the ability to do those things wouldn't help her be romantically successful.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/25 06:23 PM
1	Why do men interpret women’s disinterest as hostility? Most men don't, especially not from cold approaches where that's just a normal occurence. For warm approaches, it can be more complicated depending on how long you've known her and what the context of your interaction is, because what is friendly for one person might be flirty for another and one party may feel led on regardless of the other's intentions.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/25 06:19 PM
2	Women are dependent upon strange men for their safety, security, and comfort Except clearly women don't. They've had quite a bit of time to become independent of men, but for all their financial freedom, that money is still used to predominantly purchase the labor of men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/25 06:14 PM
1	Women are dependent upon strange men for their safety, security, and comfort People don't seem to understand the idea of proportionality. No one is saying there are 0% women in any field. But almost always, the ones that actually keep society functional on an infrastructural level are more than 50% men. In fact, a lot of them can go up to 90%-95% men, such as sewage treatment, road maintenance, powerlinesmen, Internet engineers, electricians, contruction workers, etc. Every time one of these discussions pop up, people who want to quickly dismiss the disproportionality of…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/25 06:11 PM
–	What is most guys are missing actually one simple thing. I know that you know women do not later consciously decide whether or not they stay attracted. If this was a decision women were capable of making, they wouldn't be in places like this one online complaining about men; they would just choose to like the men that are rationally good choices instead of ones that are exciting and spike her emotions for the short term. Plenty of women meet men who they only know for a short time and end up choosing to sleep with him, whether it's from a bar, a club,…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/25 06:19 AM
2	What is most guys are missing actually one simple thing. Okay? And plenty of men are chosen by women while they are in high school, university, or graduates -- far before they have any kind of life at all. So clearly "just go establish a good life" is silly advice to give for a guy in his twenties who is working on his bachelor's degree and looking for a relationship. In fact, in many circumstances women have decided that they are attracted to you so early in meeting you that they haven't even had time to figure out what your life situation is yet. Th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/25 07:51 AM
2	What is most guys are missing actually one simple thing. Do you go into every conversation with a chip on your shoulder? The main post is saying men are only missing one thing, a really good life, and that women choose men with really good lives who establish themselves. Icyfemboy's response is "Plenty of men who don't meet your criteria are still in relationships." And your response is "Those women are mentally ill or miserable." Do you see how your response doesn't really address the point? They're still human beings, they're still women, and they s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/25 07:36 AM
2	What is most guys are missing actually one simple thing. But they're still women, you can't handwave them as if they aren't human beings and don't count.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/25 02:04 AM
–	It is entirely on men to meet women’s expectations. Women should not have to lower their standards This is not a threat of rape, and traditionally fathers have always been in agreement with the idea of dictating what their daughter can or cannot do until giving her hand away in marriage to another man that the father has vetted for approval. There is absolutely no problem with male relatives protecting female relatives, because this problem was never caused by the women having security; it was about women being entitled to security from men, as well as the same level of freedom as the men pro…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/06/25 11:25 AM
1	Why are so many men obsessed with societal norms? It's the upside and downside of women being judged so heavily based on looks. You can act pretty off-base and still probably be seen as just a cute, weird, funny girl who has some quirks depending on how physically attractive you appear.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/06/25 09:51 AM
2	Q4M: do guys want women to be obsessed with them? Candle that burns brightest burns fastest. Obsession is good for a quick fling, but a long-lasting partner has to be able to see who you are -- blemishes and all -- and choose to stay. Obsession is always based on an inaccurate projection of their fantasy onto who you are. After all, no one can be obsessed with how your farts smell and how loudly you snore and a million other things that are accurate portrayals of you that do not deserve obsession. Anyone who truly knows who you are would not be…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/06/25 09:45 AM
1	This Sub is an Echo-Chamber, That Doesn’t Advance Anyone. To you, possibly. To some, this is exactly the kind of place they want.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/06/25 09:39 AM
1	Why are there no male influencers or dating coaches for women to teach them how to avoid men who do the Disney prince charming timeshare tactic on women? They're not even niche -- Matthew Hussey has 3.3 million subscribers.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/06/25 08:52 AM
1	This Sub is an Echo-Chamber, That Doesn’t Advance Anyone. But it is also not your place to make financial and clinical determinations for other people as to whether they need professional help or not. People are free to do as they please, for whatever reason they please. You came in to this subreddit with a presupposed notion of what the right way is to use this subreddit, but others here are not under that delusion. People have things they want to argue about here, so be it. Not every argues in order to improve themselves, sometimes they just need to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/06/25 08:07 AM
–	It is entirely on men to meet women’s expectations. Women should not have to lower their standards So you're basically going for a full war-of-the-sexes, completely zero accountability for women regarding our current societal conditions as a result of feminist policies, but full responsibility on men for rising to meet women's new arbitrarily high standards while improving nothing about herself? If you're going to treat this like a Prisoner's dilemma and just choose "Defect" all the way down, why should men choose "Cooperate" and give you what you want? Why shouldn't men just decide that sinc…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/06/25 07:54 AM
1	Men Can't Be Blamed for Age Gap Relationships Because Women Are the Sexual Selectors and Choosing to Be in Those Relationships milquesteak	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/06/25 04:05 AM
1	Turns out the "female gaze" is not that different from what redpill claims women want You're joking right? Every time a new serial killer shows up on the news, they get bombarded by love letters in prison. At the peak of Twilight, women's panties were getting soaked at the thought of a violent vampire who kills werewolves for the sake of protecting his love. And drug dealers are some of the most promiscuous men on the planet because that's how many women want to fuck men in that occupation. Women absolutely love aggressive men, especially in the bedroom. Women get to be pillow pr…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/06/25 06:47 AM
1	Turns out the "female gaze" is not that different from what redpill claims women want The difference is no red-piller is arguing that men actually want masculine, aggressive, assertive women -- they are in fact arguing the opposite. But feminists will definitely argue that men should be softer, less aggressive, and more emotional.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/06/25 02:58 AM
1	Turns out the "female gaze" is not that different from what redpill claims women want I mean, it's not just trans men -- everyone has trouble dating straight women, that's kind of the point. Or maybe just women in general, since gays report the highest satisfaction whereas lesbians report the least.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/06/25 12:49 AM
1	Turns out the "female gaze" is not that different from what redpill claims women want And isn't that the crux of the issue? Becaues modern day feminism would have us believing that women are attracted to emotionally open, soft, sensitive, and non-violent men -- basically women with penises. The fact that she is presenting herself in that way, and no one seems to be interested, is arguably the point.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/06/25 12:46 AM
12	Turns out the "female gaze" is not that different from what redpill claims women want That's kind of what a book is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/06/25 12:43 AM
–	Vibes vs Planning: Which type of dating is better? I think a lot of why men have difficulty with dating is because we want to ask "Do we do A, or do we do B?" And the answer is never "Do A." or "Do B." It's usually "Do A when the context is like this, and do B when the context is like this." And I think it's like you said, it's fine to go to an event where it's something you're interested in, but if you are just vibing there the whole time, nothing happens other than vibes. So if you meet someone you like, and you communicated that you are both …	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/06/25 12:39 AM
–	Vibes vs Planning: Which type of dating is better? Even if a woman is interested, she might do one or two things here and there, but she is not going to come over to you, start a conversation, start flirting, make her intentions known, ask for your number, call you, plan a date, set up the date, pay for the date, drive you home, initiate the first kiss, initiate sex, start a relationship, and propose for marriage. At least 90% of the steps required to make a relationship successful are initiated by the man, if only because part of the reason mos…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/06/25 12:33 AM
7	Q4M: if women don't respond well to men being vulnerable, why would we push so hard for it? What do we have to gain from lying? That's why you have to test her to see if she's the kind of person that you can show more of yourself to. That's not paranoia, it's prudence, because most women do not deserve to know, and you can't go around revealing your soul to every woman you're with. The same reason why a woman shouldn't invite just any man into the privacy of her home is the same reason why a man shouldn't invite just any woman into the privacy of his mind.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/05/25 04:23 AM
1	Why do some women wear full-zip hoodies off the shoulder? It actually is a male fashion as well, except we do the "quarter-zip", where we have a hoodie or fleece or sweater and either the design of the zipper is that it only goes a quarter way down from the neck, or it's a full zip that we leave the top quarter unzipped. It lets men do some layering by having an undershirt of a different color, wear a chain or necklace, etc. But I do suppose going as far as to actually let your shoulder hang out is predominantly a female fashion trend.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/05/25 01:58 AM
5	Why do some women wear full-zip hoodies off the shoulder? And I'm sure that's part of the style; just like how dancers get oversized shirts where one of their shoulders is naturally exposed.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/05/25 01:56 AM
13	Q4M: if women don't respond well to men being vulnerable, why would we push so hard for it? What do we have to gain from lying? Because it gives women power over men. A huge part of female psychology is influenced by the fact that they will never have physical power over 50% of the population that is male. Their only hope of surviving in a world with that other 50% is one where she can get some predictive power and social influence by making emotional connections instead. The more that you share genuinely about yourself, the more knowledge and leverage she has in her relationship with you, and the safer she feels about y…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/05/25 01:52 AM
3	How would you react if your boyfriend admitted you weren't exactly his type looks wise but he values you for your personality? Cringing is pretty cringe. Imagine being so egotistic that you get emotionally affected by other people just being themselves.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/05/25 01:15 AM
0	Why do women so often get traumatised through sex even if it’s not anything crazy? We don't care what you do, you're biologically wired the way you are and we already know you won't do anything about it unless you figure this out yourself. We're just making sure that no one else gets lied to anymore.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/05/25 11:40 PM
3	How would you react if your boyfriend admitted you weren't exactly his type looks wise but he values you for your personality? Lol no, that's literally how dudes show they are close friends with each other -- how much shit they can give each other and still vibe. That's not to say they can't be genuine when they need to be, but if you can't banter with your boys then you aren't really friends.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/05/25 11:39 PM
2	Why do women so often get traumatised through sex even if it’s not anything crazy? All human beings are fundamentally dumb idiots who are easily made to do things they wouldn't normally do, otherwise social media influencers, targeted ads, propaganda, echo chambers, and radicalization would not exist. There are plenty of scientific studies that people generally do NOT know why they do or say or feel what they do. The classic one is the hot cup cold cup experiment: Research subjects were sent up to a research lab in an elevator, while a researcher hands them a cup of water. The…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/05/25 11:38 PM
-1	Why do women so often get traumatised through sex even if it’s not anything crazy? It's just classic how women hide behind obfuscation and language to try change the framing. Number one, no people don't have free will, but that's for a philosophy subreddit, not this one. Number two, people's decision-making can easily be influenced based on the information that people put out there and the context they put it in, and manipulating language in this way is how women influence others' behaviors and judgement of what they do. Consider the content of the messages, "I had a hot girl …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/05/25 12:04 PM
1	How would you react if your boyfriend admitted you weren't exactly his type looks wise but he values you for your personality? Except that we are talking about close relationships here, not relationships with your boss. Obviously in professional settings, you're going to have professional boundaries. But you want your BOYFRIEND to lie to you about his true thoughts, that's on another level, and is truly in the domain of women wanting delusion in their lives. And I don't think you understand men very well at all. If my partner ACTUALLY thinks that she doesn't find me attractive because I am short, I sure as fuck want to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/05/25 11:20 AM
-3	How would you react if your boyfriend admitted you weren't exactly his type looks wise but he values you for your personality? So that's the funny thing, it's that most men are completely okay with this -- it's the women who have this problem. Men will absolutely tell each other they look like a massive walking turd if that is what they think, and then laugh about it afterwards. Women are the ones who prefer to lie and be lied to rather than to tell and be told the truth if it means feelings might get hurt. Package it up however you want, but women prefer a comfortable deception over an unkind reality.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/05/25 05:35 AM
-1	Why do women so often get traumatised through sex even if it’s not anything crazy? No one is encouraging you, personally, in a face to face conversation to have casual sex. But most of the attitudes and language around hook-up culture is either made up or co-opted by women -- like situationship, roster dating, friends-with-benefits, hot girl summer, going on a rampage/hoe phase, etc. All of it encourages other women to also participate by making it sound like a desirable social activity and a normal realm of dating to partake in.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/05/25 04:17 AM
5	"Female privilege" only exists because of men Oh no, you're just one more in a long list of ways that women avoid accountability for everything because they convince themselves that since men built society, women get to sit back and blame all their problems on men, by typing dismissive comments on a computer manufactured by men, on a website founded by men, using an Internet protocol invented by men, through the Ethernet infrastructure maintained by men, while comfortably living inside of a house built by men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/05/25 04:11 AM
4	"Female privilege" only exists because of men Women don't even actually have gender solidarity as women. They only have gender solidarity in opposition to men, and in the absence of men, it disappears. You can see male solidarity very clearly in the military -- They are very capable of adjusting to a situation where every man provides his skills to improve the group as a whole, where there is order, where there is hierarchy, and where decisions get made about what actions to take. On the flip side, every scenario and competition in which wo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/05/25 03:56 AM
3	"Female privilege" only exists because of men Privilege isn't anyone's "fault". If you have two legs and someone in this world has no legs, then you have legs privilege. It's not your fault for having two legs and it's not the other guy's fault for having no legs. The fact that you, just by the fact that you are a woman, get advantages or access to things that men do not have simply by virtue of them being men, means you have privilege. First and foremost, you need to admit that to even have the conversation, but you aren't even able to adm…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/05/25 03:42 AM
14	"Female privilege" only exists because of men You feminists love to play with language for your mental gymnastics: If a man has an advantage, it's male privilege. If a woman has an advantage, it's benevolent sexism. If men are admitted to university more than women, it's institutionalized sexism and we need social reform. If women are admitted to university more than men, it's because women are inherently better students and men need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps. If men embody traditionally male traits, it's toxic masculinity. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/05/25 03:38 AM
2	How would you react if your boyfriend admitted you weren't exactly his type looks wise but he values you for your personality? That just sounds like "Women want to be lied to." with extra steps. A woman knowing more about what her partner is thinking makes her less attracted to him is literally validating every red pill ideology.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/05/25 02:29 AM
–	It's not mysogynist for guys to tell their gf not to wear revealing clothes or not being comfortable with her going to clubs with her girlfriends. But he was on the apps before you started dating, why are you trying to change who he is and what he was already doing before he met you? That's really controlling for a person who thinks that after they get into a relationship that they would still go to dimly-lit clubs full of drunk people in skimpy clothes dancing up against each other, but that your boyfriend needs to delete all the apps off of his phone.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/05/25 09:03 PM
-1	It's not mysogynist for guys to tell their gf not to wear revealing clothes or not being comfortable with her going to clubs with her girlfriends. That's like meeting a guy on a dating app, deciding to make him your boyfriend and then suddenly you have an issue with him using dating apps.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/05/25 07:59 AM
2	Society acknowledges that the current dating market is broken and leaves both men and women unhappy but any solution that men come up with is shamed and labeled as misogyny By your definition, the entirety of feminism is misandrist.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/05/25 01:10 PM
1	Both Genders need to realize that Dating is Amoral and Unfair and that no-one is entitled to anything on both sides. But clearly women don't -- As much as women want equality, the entire gender has no expected responsibilities nor actual participation in physically building anything. All of the work that keeps society fundamentally functioning, especially jobs that are physically laborous or dangerous, are inevitably worked by 90-95% men: Construction workers, electricians, carpenters, etc. However, it is women who disproportionately benefit from male labor of all kinds -- Women are far more likely to call 911…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/25 05:20 PM
0	Both Genders need to realize that Dating is Amoral and Unfair and that no-one is entitled to anything on both sides. Women were always free to create jobs or build banks, they just decided that living under men was safer and easier. The word "allow" doesn't even make sense; it implies they are entitled to things that men have built.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/25 01:04 PM
1	Both Genders need to realize that Dating is Amoral and Unfair and that no-one is entitled to anything on both sides. So basically, unfairness is how life works -- for men -- but for women, society is compelled to provide them with free advantages for no other reason than because they are women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/25 12:39 PM
-2	Both Genders need to realize that Dating is Amoral and Unfair and that no-one is entitled to anything on both sides. No, men are the only reason women can have a bank account. There weren't any women founding banks, weren't any women construction workers building the bank, and weren't any women maintenance workers keeping the banks in working order. If men didn't exist, banks wouldn't exist, and women would still have no bank account. Why do women feel entitled to institutions that they had no hand in building or maintaining? Why don't they go build their own bank if they wanted bank accounts so much, instead …	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/25 12:37 PM
-2	Both Genders need to realize that Dating is Amoral and Unfair and that no-one is entitled to anything on both sides. See, that's the problem. When men are disproportionately affected by a problem, we say "Life's not fair." When women are disproportionately affected by a problem, we say "This is an aspect of life where we should attempt to improve equal access to for everyone."	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/25 12:30 PM
–	Most men are invisible, and that seriously skews what women think is "the average". Every older woman has gone through a time where they were younger and did get free attention. Most men have never and will never get the level of attention that the older woman took for granted in her 20s.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/25 12:13 PM
3	Women are basically miny celebrities. Which is why the dating climate is bad Then it should be easy for women to resist temptation and keep their body counts low, and yet...	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/25 11:36 AM
3	Women are basically miny celebrities. Which is why the dating climate is bad You sound like a rich person complaining about how vulnerable and scared they feel that someone might steal their money or that relatives expect financial help, and how poor people can't imagine the weight of the responsibilities and struggles of being filthy rich. I'm not saying that rich people don't have issues, but I hope you can see how complaining about your privilege looks like to those who don't have access to it. And the worse part is that we know what you say isn't the case. I personal…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/25 11:34 AM
6	Women are basically miny celebrities. Which is why the dating climate is bad If every single woman on Earth stopped wearing makeup, no one would ever have to spend any money or time on makeup ever again because everyone would comparatively look just as good as they did when everyone was wearing makeup. Do you think it's likely that every woman will stop wearing makeup because of this logical reason? Of course not, they want to look comparatively better than the woman who don't wear makeup. Just as men "raising their standards" won't work, because the men with looser stan…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/25 11:25 AM
1	"What could X age possibly have in common in Y age" is a ridiculous argument For statement A to be true (X year olds should not date Y year olds because X is too young/they are too inexperienced/they are too immature/they can be taken advantage of/etc.), statement B must also be true (X year olds should not decide the next president of the United States, or own a firearm, or drive a vehicle, because they are too young/inexperienced/immature/etc.). It's a reductio ad absurdum logical test to see if your argument is sound or not. I am asking how you would deal with this co…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/25 12:23 PM
2	"What could X age possibly have in common in Y age" is a ridiculous argument No one is doing this. What do you think is happening when people make blanket statements about how an X year old shouldn't date a Y year old? These claims are usually made without knowing anything about either person except their age. Of course it stirs emotions differently. Because they are different subjects. Yeah, and I'm saying those people should use their logical faculties to make decisions about what they say and do rather than being a slave to their emotional ones.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/25 09:18 AM
3	"What could X age possibly have in common in Y age" is a ridiculous argument The thing about being an adult, is that you get to decide for yourself what a good choice is or not. Whether that comes to who and what you vote for, to buying a gun or not buying a gun, how you decide to drive, and yes -- who you choose to date. Someone else doesn't unilaterally get to tell you whether it's a good choice or not, unless it's illegal, in which case the police will. Anyone who thinks they're being a good person by unilaterally making another adult's choice for them, are not doing …	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/25 06:06 PM
3	"What could X age possibly have in common in Y age" is a ridiculous argument I think it's "if you cannot handle the responsibility of a relationship, then you cannot handle the responsibility of deciding the next president of the United States, or handling a firearm, or driving a vehicle." You cannot both be simultaneously old enough to decide the country's policies, possess a lethal weapon, and operate a 4000 pound machine going at 80 miles per hour, but also not old enough to date who you want.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/25 12:46 PM
5	Women's advice to men here is to keep them guessing, single, guilt tripped until they're so old they'll get creepshamed anyway All advice is good in a specific context. Without context, all advice is rendered meaningless. "You should eat more" and "Stop eating so much" are both good advice, and this is no contradiction. It's just that one is good advice for someone with anorexia, and one is good advice for someone who is obese.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/25 12:43 PM
3	If you were a woman alone in the woods, would you rather encounter a man or a bear? Please explain your reasoning. You need to take into account base rate. Otherwise you could ask whether hand grenades are more dangerous or plastic bags are more dangerous, and you would find more women have choked on plastic bags than have died to a hand grenade -- because women encounter plastic bags some thousands of times throughout the year, but the average woman encounters less than 1 hand grenade in her entire life. But obviously a hand grenade is more dangerous than a plastic bag -- After all, you don't have to call t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/25 05:41 AM
7	If you were a woman alone in the woods, would you rather encounter a man or a bear? Please explain your reasoning. Yeah -- No one is asking "Would you rather be stuck in a forest with a man or a bunny." The question specifically picks bear, which to men instantly becomes ridiculous because it's a fucking bear. The questioner could have picked any reasonable animal but they chose to pick bear, which is why most men are somewhere on the spectrum between "what the fuck" all the way to "are you stupid".	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/25 05:38 AM
5	If you were a woman alone in the woods, would you rather encounter a man or a bear? Please explain your reasoning. The only way is to make people put there money where their mouth is. Set up two elevators. Put a random man in one, put a random bear in the other. Tell women passing by that they can sign a waiver, and then choose to ride up to the 10th floor and back down with the man for 100 dollars, or ride up to the 10th floor and back down with the bear for 1,000 dollars. Make it a reality TV show and let's watch how many women either chicken out and ride with the man, or get mauled by a bear on live TV. E…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/25 05:32 AM
4	Both genders would be happier if women did the approaching Objectifying doesn't mean treating someone as non-human, it means regarding them as the things that they objectively are, for example: 6 feet and 2 inches tall, 210 pounds, muscular, short blond hair, blue eyes, with a penis -- That's a human as an object. A human as a subject is: Likes poetry, enjoys walks on the beach, in school for an MBA, very close with your sister, dream in life is to run their own company, favorite vacation destination is Paris. You can have sex with a person, as an objec…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/25 09:37 PM
10	Both genders would be happier if women did the approaching It's as much of a kink as liking taller men is a kink. Women want to be objectified by the right person because sex is inherently objectifying. No one is thinking about your ability to play the violin, or your stamp collection, of your political opinions while they're rearranging your guts with their dick.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/25 08:06 AM
33	"Chad" is less likely to be misogynistic than a sexually inexperienced man: A study found that the more sexually experienced a man is, the more biased he is towards women. People on the two extremes of "never even touched a woman before" and "sleep with a new girl every week" are obviously going to have non-standard views of women. Lumping it all into "misogyny" would be missing the point. The first camp are more likely to be bitter, resentful, and traumatized by women whereas the second camp are more likely to be dismissive, devaluing, and objectifying of women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/25 08:01 AM
2	Men don't have fragile masculinity. Masculinity itself is fragile, just as Femininity is. How I see it, is that masculinity is built up, and femininity is worn down. Women go through puberty and their femininity is given to them for free at the height of their youth, and they just have to maintain it. The action of estrogen gives them all the things innate to their traditional value as a woman -- motherhood, smooth skin, curvy bodies, and everything else. Not everyone gets these in equal measure, but generally you don't have to work to get your femininity, but it basically peaks and …	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/25 10:49 PM
12	Q4M: Does "Choose better" assume there's an abundance of good options? Choosing the SAME vapid guys -- There's a reason why "Are We Dating The Same Guy?" is a thing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/25 12:42 PM
–	Time to settle the dick size debate once and for all using data - women generally prefer bigger dicks until a certain point and the ideal size for most women is larger than average. Yeah, field of study. What else would you call the topics published in these scientific journals?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/25 05:54 AM
2	Men do find women their age physically attractive. Problem is that their discourse will never include that nuance, so men in general gets targeted and demonized the same. 👍	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/25 03:05 AM
2	Men do find women their age physically attractive. God I love those hot 100 year old GGGILFs. The ones that I don't have to find in the morgue are even better. But in all seriousness, lets not flatten out the differences just to avoid the uncomfortable truth that there are way more attractive people in their 20s-30s than in their 60s-70s. And attractive people in their 20s are still going to be more attractive than they will be in their 60s.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/25 03:01 AM
–	Time to settle the dick size debate once and for all using data - women generally prefer bigger dicks until a certain point and the ideal size for most women is larger than average. I think this is a big difference between men and women -- Men want to know the truth even if it's "a little judgey". Women tend to want to be non-judgemental even if it requires deception.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/25 02:58 AM
–	Time to settle the dick size debate once and for all using data - women generally prefer bigger dicks until a certain point and the ideal size for most women is larger than average. My teacher told me she used to hold hands with her girlfriends in a circle while chanting, "We must, we must, we must increase our bust!" while sidestepping like they're dancing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/25 02:57 AM
–	Time to settle the dick size debate once and for all using data - women generally prefer bigger dicks until a certain point and the ideal size for most women is larger than average. Men are also not attracted to all the bullshit women do to "stay pretty", and yet we just deal with the reality that most of your faces are painted on, that taking you out requires leaving 30 minutes late because you're doing shit in the bathroom, that some women think spending money on all those creams and powders they put on is equivalent to spending their money on the man, and that you think we give a shit what you wear when we go out. And then after all that, a random barista at Starbucks lo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/25 02:54 AM
–	Time to settle the dick size debate once and for all using data - women generally prefer bigger dicks until a certain point and the ideal size for most women is larger than average. Yeah haha, those scientists, such fucking nerds man, doing research on the nature of reality by using numbers and stuff? How dare they put in effort into their field of study!	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/25 02:46 AM
–	Time to settle the dick size debate once and for all using data - women generally prefer bigger dicks until a certain point and the ideal size for most women is larger than average. I know what you're trying to say, but there is no "think they prefer", there is only "prefer". Because at the end of the day, if a woman only ever picks chocolate ice cream, then even if we knew for a scientific fact that she would like vanilla ice cream better, it doesn't change the fact that she prefers chocolate ice cream. You can't "convince" women that they would like something else that they don't prefer to choose. The action of choosing itself IS the preference.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/25 02:43 AM
–	Time to settle the dick size debate once and for all using data - women generally prefer bigger dicks until a certain point and the ideal size for most women is larger than average. Biologically, they should be able to express their autonamy and individual preferences without consequences. What do you mean by should? Because biologically, there are always consequences for what you do, including expressing your autonomy and individual preferences.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/25 02:40 AM
–	Time to settle the dick size debate once and for all using data - women generally prefer bigger dicks until a certain point and the ideal size for most women is larger than average. Are you okay with us having a conversation about this or do you just want to say things that stop the conversation? It seems like you're in a rush to tell us "This is the conclusion, just do this, no need to talk further."	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/25 02:38 AM
2	Men, what’s something you love about being a man? Just based on what I experienced at my workplace, I've had about 8 women crying in my office over the past 3 years about various things, 0 men crying. I've had 1 man punch a hole in the bathroom, 0 women (although at least two women have thrown items across the room at another woman). If this is the yardstick, then I'd still say that in my experience women are about 8x as emotional as men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/25 10:36 AM
1	It's OK to pay male teachers more than female teachers if it improves boy's educational outcomes. Equal pay between genders isn't the top priority in children's education. Women should be willing to take a "hit". Why not pay everyone better? Why not give free housing to all homeless people? Why not put as much into prostate cancer research as breast cancer? Why not like a million other things.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/25 10:30 AM
3	Why do men think they are funnier than women? I just typed "name + fart" into YouTube. I don't know if that counts as "digging deep". I also don't know why the goalposts are getting moved based on an arbitrary measure of "how deep the dig is"; no comedian makes jokes 24/7 about farting.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/25 04:31 PM
7	Why do men think they are funnier than women? What time and energy? I just typed "name + fart" into YouTube and clicked the top link. It took maybe 2 minutes to copy and paste? I can understand how that's a lot of effort for you though if you're the type of person to say things that can be disproved in a couple of minutes of typing and then get indignant at being shown you're wrong.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/25 04:24 PM
6	Why do men think they are funnier than women? Bill Burr: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wd5kbqLd8vA Josh Johnson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QxO6lEU0s8 Ricky Gervais: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSJb8x6PcsI Dave Chapelle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0QnUsiJOWc	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/25 11:26 AM
4	Why do men think they are funnier than women? Yes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHIvCKoCVBw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohDTSJo5bYU	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/25 11:20 AM
4	Why do men think they are funnier than women? I'd say selective pressure as well. There's really not much reproductive advantage to being funny as a woman, but there is a huge reproductive advantage to being funny as a man.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/25 11:15 AM
4	Men, what’s something you love about being a man? I wish I had a nickel everytime someone tries to zero out the differences between men and women because conversations involving gendered differences trigger them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/25 11:12 AM
7	Men, what’s something you love about being a man? I mean, you don't have to as a woman either...	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/25 11:07 AM
1	Men, what’s something you love about being a man? Those devices don't actually simulate period pains. They just send electrical signals to tell your muscles to contract. The stronger your muscles are, the more it will hurt, that's all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/25 11:05 AM
–	There is a certain behaviour ("damselling") in public that I see exclusively done by women. What is the real reason why those women are doing this? It's kinda game theory at that point. Our culture has certain engrained gender roles, and biologically it does make men feel better to be needed and women feel better to be serviced. When both men and women fit into their natural roles, I think it is deeply resonant to us and things just feel right. But there are a minority of people who don't fit in or don't want to fit in to these roles, and they break the system for everyone else. I'm not going to argue whether it's right or wrong, it just is…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/25 09:32 AM
–	There is a certain behaviour ("damselling") in public that I see exclusively done by women. What is the real reason why those women are doing this? Except that in the example given; when there is a woman loading carryon luggage into the overhead bins of an airplane, and they look around and make eye contact with a man, this IS the woman implicitly communicating that they need help. This is a social maneuver called triangulation -- where a primary party confronting a problem and tries to recruit a third party by implicit social communication, e.g. eye contact. If the woman was actually trying to get the task done by herself, she would focus …	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/04/25 09:41 PM
–	There is a certain behaviour ("damselling") in public that I see exclusively done by women. What is the real reason why those women are doing this? Maybe I shouldn't speak for men in general, so I'll just say that for myself, looking away would be MUCH harder than being given an opportunity to explain. Because I know what her expectation of me is due to the gender roles at play in this social situation, and because I know her act of feigned incompetence is a social cue for me, as a man, to go in and help. But if I have a personal situation for why I cannot comply with this gendered expectation, then there is now a tension in the air because…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/04/25 09:30 PM
–	There is a certain behaviour ("damselling") in public that I see exclusively done by women. What is the real reason why those women are doing this? Because in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't matter. Your "lives aren't destroyed", you just move on. My dad just passed away, none of our lives are "destroyed". My mom cried, our family grieved, we set up the funeral, we buried him, and now we're back to going to work. My problem with you framing it that way is that you are only doing it to stop the conversation, because you don't think it's important. But you don't get to play that card and then decide that what YOU think is important has…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/04/25 09:02 PM
–	There is a certain behaviour ("damselling") in public that I see exclusively done by women. What is the real reason why those women are doing this? effectively communicating I am literally telling you that it is the opposite. Again,you can simply ignore people. You say this, and then in the next breath explain why you cannot ignore people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/04/25 01:50 PM
–	There is a certain behaviour ("damselling") in public that I see exclusively done by women. What is the real reason why those women are doing this? Sure? You're "allowed" to do whatever you want, doesn't change that it is definitely a manipulative game being played, especially when something you do imposes on everyone else to act specifically the way that you want them to act.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/04/25 01:30 PM
–	There is a certain behaviour ("damselling") in public that I see exclusively done by women. What is the real reason why those women are doing this? That's the point, you aren't allowed to decline because she's not explicitly asking, but you still have to deal with her judgemental behavior because she feels entitled to masculine help as payment for her playing the damsel role. And you are really overexaggerating with the "99%". You are basically putting on a show and expecting that men in the vicinity read your mind that you want help. And aside from even that, more than 1% of the population is neurodivergent or on the spectrum, and would no…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/04/25 01:19 PM
4	Men are shamed both for failing at sex and for succeeding at it. There are enough differences between what the sexes want that we can't just say "we're not so different" and be done with it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/04/25 01:09 PM
2	Men are shamed both for failing at sex and for succeeding at it. And the line is so silly too -- Are you SURE you can't think of anyone else in the galaxy far, far away that also deal in absolutes other than this one specific group of Master and Apprentice dressed in black?	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/04/25 01:08 PM
–	There is a certain behaviour ("damselling") in public that I see exclusively done by women. What is the real reason why those women are doing this? I mean, you're evading the point by unfairly changing the scope. In the grand scheme of things, dying is pretty irrelevant too, that's also just life.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/04/25 01:05 PM
–	There is a certain behaviour ("damselling") in public that I see exclusively done by women. What is the real reason why those women are doing this? A lot of British folks i know personally are super passive aggressive as of they ask for something directly they might die. That's because they are British, not because they are men or women. I would think that men in general (outside of Britain) are aggressive-aggressive more often than women are as a ratio compared to being passive-aggressive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/04/25 01:01 PM
–	There is a certain behaviour ("damselling") in public that I see exclusively done by women. What is the real reason why those women are doing this? Here's my Autism Breakdown for you: Women are socialized not to be direct, this includes when they need help. They prefer to signal their needs indirectly, in part because they are punished for being bitchy and bossy when they are overly verbal about what they want or need. They are rewarded when they present "cute" and feminine behaviors that motivate men to want to help, protect, or provide for them. It can be part of flirtation, or could just be a woman trying to get a mundane physical need m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/04/25 12:55 PM
6	There is a certain behaviour ("damselling") in public that I see exclusively done by women. What is the real reason why those women are doing this? Because she feels jilted. She put her ego on the line when she invested into this manipulation, and if it doesn't pan out then she is tying that failure into her identity (Why didn't he help me? Was I not attractive enough? Was I not acting feminine enough?) The idea that a woman flaunts her femininity to get her needs met (in this case, damselling), and then fails to get those needs met, becomes a statement about her femininity.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/04/25 12:41 PM
6	There is a certain behaviour ("damselling") in public that I see exclusively done by women. What is the real reason why those women are doing this? Clearly it's not just a harmless game if women get their egos bruised when the man doesn't play along.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/04/25 12:37 PM
3	There is a certain behaviour ("damselling") in public that I see exclusively done by women. What is the real reason why those women are doing this? In your situation, explicitly asking would be less uncomfortable for most men, because it gives them a chance to explain why they are not helping you, i.e. because of their bad back. If you try to manipulate them into helping you, they have no way of communicating with you in an honest and non-awkward manner and all we are left with is your judgemental attitude. It might be less awkward for you though, because you don't have to deal with feeling rejected for your request, which is probably the r…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/04/25 12:34 PM
4	Should there be a male equivalent to a “girls girl?” Maybe during middle school that was a thing? But after becoming an adult, the only times I've been called gay has been by female friends. Or rather, of the friends I keep, none of them are bullies. And I'm not likely to keep one who is as a friend anyways.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/25 10:02 PM
1	One of feminism’s biggest weaknesses is the reluctance to hold toxic voices accountable because doing so might 'validate the enemy' I don't think so. The people on Twitter would like to think they represent the global population, but I'm sure a lot more people than we would like to admit would agree with her views in real life. Or rather in the United States, it appears at least half of the country does.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/04/25 09:01 PM
1	A culture that centres female pain struggles to acknowledge when women cause it It doesn't really make sense to use the word "evil" in describing animal behavior. Human morality really has no place in the animal kingdom. If a new alpha male takes over and starts slaughtering the babies of the previous leader, he doesn't do that to be "evil", he does that because the gene that predisposes that behavior has a selective advantage and increases the likelihood that he passes on that gene. Morality doesn't enter into animal behavior because they don't have have a human's ventrome…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/04/25 10:28 AM
4	One of feminism’s biggest weaknesses is the reluctance to hold toxic voices accountable because doing so might 'validate the enemy' celebrating violence against men Five female talk show hosts cracking jokes while talking about a woman convicted of cutting off her husband's penis with a knife and throwing it into an electric garbage disposal grinder because he filed for divorce. Does this count as celebrating violence against men? If feminism was right and the genders were equal, what would happen to five men on a talk show who joked about a man cutting off his wife's breasts and throwing them into the garbage disposal becau…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/04/25 10:22 AM
1	One of feminism’s biggest weaknesses is the reluctance to hold toxic voices accountable because doing so might 'validate the enemy' Doesn't she collect royalties on basically anything Harry Potter related? I.e., isn't she basically set for life, financially speaking? It's hard to accept "her career is over" when the reality is more like "she raked it all in and now has fuck-you money for her retirement."	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/04/25 10:00 AM
2	There is no point in telling women theyre not entitled to safety. Wow, women aren't just babymaking machines you know, that's really misogynistic of you. But if you want to go ahead and regress back to your natural gender role that's fine by me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/25 11:11 PM
2	There is no point in telling women theyre not entitled to safety. The fact that you are so privileged that you can say this is very telling. You have enough clean water, nutritious food, medical care, shelter, electricity, national defense, and climate control that you get to say this ridiculous statement. Do you know what most of humanity has actually died to in the past 300,000 years? Disease, starvation, infection, and disaster. Do you honestly think being raped was the number 1 threat for humanity? Please stop.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/25 10:24 PM
2	There is no point in telling women theyre not entitled to safety. You're moving the goalposts. Do you want actual safety, or do you only want safety from men? Because the way your question is asked, assumes that the only threat to the existence of women is men, which we both know is not true. Because if it was, well there's the front door, go ahead and leave. No one is forcing you to live in a society built by men, you are free to build your own with as many women as you can take with you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/25 09:41 PM
1	There is no point in telling women theyre not entitled to safety. I'm not denying that there exists some women who do fight for their country. But we need to first recognize that we are no longer talking in terms of equality if men can be drafted by the millions into the military, while women are given the voluntary choice of whether to fight or to fly away to Germany for asylum. Because the first comment on this chain is "Safety is a basic human right for all genders. It’s sad that we live in a society where women safety isn’t a default. The rape rates are cr…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/25 09:32 PM
1	There is no point in telling women theyre not entitled to safety. Think about the top-of-the-list important things to the continued existence of a country. I guarantee you, the things at the top is the number of soldiers in the fight, the amount of ammunition you can move to the front lines, the level of technology you have in your arsenal, the logistics system of your supply line, and at the VERY BOTTOM, the least important thing to making sure your country still exists tomorrow during a war, is rape. I know women want to harp on this one rape thing as if it'…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/25 09:25 PM
0	There is no point in telling women theyre not entitled to safety. By and far, men increase the level of safety, order, and provision that a society gives to its members. In the absence of men, you would need MORE protection, not less, from natural threats and from OTHER WOMEN, assuming you don't die of natural causes first without men to provide shelter or food. It is no virtue that women are harmless because they lack physical power, because you see women harming other women once physical repercussions are off the table because they have plausible deniability…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/25 09:21 PM
1	There is no point in telling women theyre not entitled to safety. No, I would LIKE to have more of a discussion on making women safer. But what's necessary is to recognize the disproportionality of who has to provide it. It's disproportionately men who have to provide safety and order, whether it's against wildfires and hurricanes, or against accidents and medical emergencies, or against domestic criminals and foreign enemies. It's impossible to have the conversation about what is of value and what the issues are without first recognizing the value that men br…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/25 09:10 PM
2	There is no point in telling women theyre not entitled to safety. Why do people say this when they clearly know that it's nowhere near equal. There are far more men fighting, and the proportion of women are nowhere near 50%. So why even bring this up as if it's a "gotcha! Women fight too!"? Unless it's at least somewhere in the ballpark of 50% men and 50% women, it just further highlights how much inequality there is against men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/25 10:30 AM
0	There is no point in telling women theyre not entitled to safety. Safety is a basic human right for all genders. But it's overwhelmingly provisioned by men, despite being far more benefitial to women. There aren't that many women out there fighting fires or working as police or really any occupation that generates safety. But by far they benefit more from safety than men do. We've crafted a society that leeches safety and provision from men and called it equality. Because when people talk about "rights", no one ever keeps in mind that someone actually has to g…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/25 10:16 AM
3	Q4M: Would it be cheating if your SO got her emotional needs met with an AI behind your back? Should we say the same of men in a relationship who need to get their physical needs met by porn?	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/25 10:04 AM
4	There is a selection effect at play which superficially bolsters red-pill theories Sure, but shy single women will have romantic opportunities from confident men who are forward about approaching her. Shy single men proportionally do not have confident single women who approach him for romantic opportunities.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/25 02:59 AM
3	There is a selection effect at play which superficially bolsters red-pill theories It's not hypocritical so much as it is just projection. Way more women want to be treated like a little girl than men who want to be treated like a little boy. They fling insults about men looking for mommy replacements because they view it as a personal detriment to their own chances of finding a daddy figure who will love her like her real dad never did.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/03/25 03:05 PM
6	There is a selection effect at play which superficially bolsters red-pill theories That's clearly not true because there's a large cohort of lonely shy men who never make sexual advances, and they are not currently partners with shy women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/03/25 03:01 PM
1	The idea that men are intimidated by successful women is mostly a myth. They can share their own lived experience, but they can't share the experience of the man unless she is psychic and can telepathically feel his intimidation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/03/25 12:16 PM
1	Q4W who identify with feminism. Are there any priveleges that mostly benefit women you’re advocating to give up in the name of equality. I don't think you're understanding the ideological argument: Men have X amount of freedom and privilege, women have Y amount of freedom and privilege. You say women are being oppressed, meaning Y amount of freedom and privilege is not enough. How much more should they have? "Well, they should have X amount of freedom and privilege instead", some feminists would say, same as the men, because of equality. If you do not believe in equality, then you do not have the above argument -- then what is th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/25 02:11 PM
0	Q4W who identify with feminism. Are there any priveleges that mostly benefit women you’re advocating to give up in the name of equality. Except if equality cannot be expected, then there is no oppression occurring. Whatever imagined oppression that women have is therefore just the social consequences of biological differences between men and women. The things that women suffer for in one area, men suffer for in another, as it naturally occurs. And there is no incentive for men to provide women with additional privileges because, after all, there is no argument for women being oppressed, nor is there motive for them to change soci…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/25 01:55 PM
1	Why do girls invest so much into their looks, but hate to be complimented about it? The people who only focus on financial success solely for romance do not get offended when women want them for their money. They know what the deal is. But men work on way more than just finances -- Most men who enjoy romantic success have some combination of financial security, physical fitness, emotional stoicism, status attainment, social charisma, and sexual prowess.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/25 01:40 PM
-1	Q4W who identify with feminism. Are there any priveleges that mostly benefit women you’re advocating to give up in the name of equality. Yeah, it is. You are advocating for men and women to not be treated equally in use of physical force. For example if someone breaks into my house with a knife, I am not obligated to put down my handgun so that I can grab a knife of the same size to make sure the fight is "equal". Assault is assault, woman or not. Don't start something you can't end, woman or not; simple as.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/25 01:33 PM
0	Q4W who identify with feminism. Are there any priveleges that mostly benefit women you’re advocating to give up in the name of equality. That's like saying that everyone will get an equal salary based on their height. And I say that this is sexist, and you say "I said equal salary so the rest of this argument is off topic."	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/25 01:20 PM
0	Q4W who identify with feminism. Are there any priveleges that mostly benefit women you’re advocating to give up in the name of equality. Animal rights and homeless rights would also have no moral standing if you didn't first make the assertion that animals -- whether human or non-human -- equally deserve non-suffering. Or that people, both the housed and the homeless, equally deserve shelter from the elements. But if you don't think women and men should be equal to each other, then what justification is there for women to get more than they already have? What reason is there for men to give it to her?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/25 01:17 PM
0	Q4W who identify with feminism. Are there any priveleges that mostly benefit women you’re advocating to give up in the name of equality. Then it's no longer equal. The moment that force output comes into the equation, women immediately enjoy a social privilege of being able to play the victim. This is tantamount to telling me that a woman can hit me as HARD as she physically can, and that I can only retaliate with a quarter of my strength at most -- because no one will ever perceive an attack from a woman as being equal in force to an attack from a man, and so once again men suffer systemic sexism by default as victims of domesti…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/25 01:06 PM
2	Q4W who identify with feminism. Are there any priveleges that mostly benefit women you’re advocating to give up in the name of equality. Bill Burr's best analogy was that feminism treats equality like a buffet. They pick out the things that men have better than women and put it on their plate, and all the things that men have worse than women they say "Eww." and leave on the table.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/25 01:01 PM
1	Q4W who identify with feminism. Are there any priveleges that mostly benefit women you’re advocating to give up in the name of equality. "No draft" means that if the United States is ever in an existential crisis for its continued survival, that we are willing to commit military suicide and let the enemy take over and occupy our country. It takes a certain level of privilege and detachment from political reality to even think that is a viable option. I'm speaking from the perspective of an immigrant, and even I can see the value of a "look, either we force people to fight or we're all going to die" type of panic button. We have b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/25 12:57 PM
0	Q4W who identify with feminism. Are there any priveleges that mostly benefit women you’re advocating to give up in the name of equality. If feminism isn't about equality, then what moral standing does it have over the status quo? Why would a man want to support, or even consider, any part of feminism if ultimately it adds no value to the system yet strictly takes away from his gender to give to the other gender?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/25 12:40 PM
0	Modern Feminism today is about fighting for Privileges ,not Rights. Except it's the games that feminists rally against that are selling insane copies, like Stellar Blade. And the games that are created as products of inclusive diversity are selling no copies, like Dustborn.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/25 06:18 AM
4	Why Don’t Women Defend Men Like Men Defend Women? There are literal real-life examples all the time that women get defended in ways that men will never be defended. And it's almost always other men who defend women: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtVHnZX8E50	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/03/25 06:18 AM
–	Dear RP guys, the phrase “exist as woman get free stuff?” How does that work? about society.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/25 04:30 AM
1	N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD If women were equal to men, then why do women need to demand equality?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/02/25 09:58 AM
4	Genuine question; what do you want me, a random guy, to say/feel when you brought up a problem about men and/or gender inequality? I think the main issue most men have with this isn't that the world is unfair, or that women are different from men, etc. It's that we have been gaslit from birth into believing the opposite, especially by the women in our lives whose job it was to care for our upbringing. Mothers, family, teachers, school, culture, and the media all tell us that men and women are equal, that the world rewards the good and punishes the bad, that girls can do everything boys can and that you should treat them the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/25 04:15 AM
1	Genuine question; what do you want me, a random guy, to say/feel when you brought up a problem about men and/or gender inequality? I don't think it matters as much what your intention is. If the outcome is that you are manipulating people, then you are responsible for the effects of your manipulation. And certainly, if you are just broadcasting out into the world, "Men rape, kill, steal.", then you are responsible for the effects of the harm that such a message has. Because whether you are manipulating people on purpose to get empathy for yourself, or manipulating men by accident into feeling unjustified guilt, it's still o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/25 04:04 AM
5	A woman with a promiscuous past or present who treats you like a king is 100x better than a rigid, traditional prude who treats you like you're average It sounds weird because I'm saying the quiet part out loud, that most men will not not tell any of the women in their lives, so you likely aren't used to hearing it. In general, men who make good money do not stay in relationships with women who have sex outside of the relationship, because he brings enough to the table that if a woman tried to negotiate for something like that, he would simply move on to another woman who won't sleep around. Generally speaking, men want to feel like they are su…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/12/24 10:17 PM
3	Men understand the concept of aggression significantly better than women. It's wild as fuck for someone to, of her own agency, intervene into a stranger's situation, start shit in a violent way, and then be angry at her partner for not joining in the violence with her, that she started, without his consent.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/12/24 08:40 AM
14	A woman with a promiscuous past or present who treats you like a king is 100x better than a rigid, traditional prude who treats you like you're average Promiscuity is just a qualitative discriminator for men's attraction. One perspective is that it is a difference in values, and certainly some men can value women who are promiscuous. Though generally, men do not find it attractive when women do not have the sexual values that men find attractive. Just as generally, women do not find it attractive when men do not have the financial value that women find attractive. For those who are confused as to why promiscuity is a qualitative discriminator, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/12/24 07:31 AM
1	Women who get the ick = porn brained men Women's image of masculinity is the ability to affect the external world while remaining unaffected by the external world. Every single modern use of the word "ick" is literally just one of these two things -- either she had an expectation that he do something to change some external situation, but he failed to; or the external situation did something to change him, and he let it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/12/24 10:30 AM
11	Men are held to a higher/more rigid standard of masculinity than women are for femininity. I know what you're getting at, but what you're looking for is actually the niches that a lot of women inhabit, which are definitely far more numerous than men. Women can be hot milfs, goth girls, climbable Amazons, dommy mommies, e-girls, kawaii uguu~, gothic lolitas, emo chicks, PAWGs, girl-next-door, BBWs, bolted-on bimbos, scene girls, ABGs, and all of these niches will find their suitors in men. Whereas men literally just have "gauges" that they get judged by -- Physique, success, intelligen…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/12/24 10:16 AM
1	What Happens When A Guy Dates Someone 10-20 Years Younger Than Him Did I say that judging them was weird, or did I say that being judgemental of what two consenting adults do in the privacy of their personal lives was weird?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/24 08:07 PM
1	What Happens When A Guy Dates Someone 10-20 Years Younger Than Him Can you repeat to me what I said that makes you think I don't judge anything adults do in their personal lives?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/24 08:01 PM
1	What Happens When A Guy Dates Someone 10-20 Years Younger Than Him Did I say that being judgemental was weird, or did I say that being judgemental of what two consenting adults do in the privacy of their personal lives was weird?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/24 07:32 PM
1	What Happens When A Guy Dates Someone 10-20 Years Younger Than Him Can you repeat to me what I said that makes you think I don't judge anything?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/24 07:24 PM
2	What Happens When A Guy Dates Someone 10-20 Years Younger Than Him I just think it's weird to be judgemental about what two consenting adults do in the privacy of their personal lives.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/24 07:23 PM
2	Accountability Crisis: Why Feminism Needs to Rethink the Blame Game I'm confused, is your point that you think Kamala and her supporters had a good narrative for young male voters? Or that their campaign was empathetic to men who feel demonized?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/24 05:55 AM
1	Accountability Crisis: Why Feminism Needs to Rethink the Blame Game They're both being held accountable for what they say and do -- by their voters. Trump and his supporters are saying exactly the things that gets him votes from the people who would vote for him, and Kamala and her supporters are saying exactly the things that loses her votes from the people who would vote for her.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/24 03:39 AM
17	Men should approach less and reject more An example he gives in the video is that he was with a female friend when a regular mailman walks by and he asks her whether she finds that guy over there attractive. She asks, "What guy?" He points towards the mailman, "Over there." She then asks, "Is the guy behind the mailman?" He answers, "No, that is the guy. The mailman is the guy." And she just responds, "Oh."	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/09/24 10:23 AM
23	Men should approach less and reject more Posts like these really support the "Not People" theory from hoe_math; that male strangers who are less than a 7/10 in attractiveness do not exist as real human beings in the minds of women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/09/24 06:36 AM
2	The expectation for men to be completely self-actualized before even entering the dating market is absolutely ridiculous. I say "evasive" because so many times when people try to point out disproportionately negative treatment of men, someone always tries to make it a "nah, it's not about the gender, it's about this other XYZ thing." and it's so blatant that bringing up the XYZ thing is in service of not having to deal with the uncomfortable reality of where men ARE NOT treated as well as women, and that it has a real-world effect that we don't want to talk about. We are only allowed to talk about the ways in which…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/24 08:34 AM
13	The expectation for men to be completely self-actualized before even entering the dating market is absolutely ridiculous. In the traditional gender role sense, yes it is the man that approaches. But currently in the West, we live in a society where the culture and policy revolves around the idea of gender equality. So the conundrum is, we have now simultaneously subsidized women into receiving the privileges of masculine roles, while using traditional gender norms to shield them from the responsibility of having to pay for those privileges. We can go one way or the other -- either women can play a masculine role an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/09/24 03:09 AM
26	The expectation for men to be completely self-actualized before even entering the dating market is absolutely ridiculous. I think the point is that women on the flipside do not get this advice. Women with relationship problems generally get advice about how to better select for men that are self-actualized, because the narrative is that the problem was with the man, and the woman's only mistake was not having chosen the right one. No one will straight up tell a woman "You're too fat and need to lose weight. Your makeup doesn't look good on you, learn some better technique. You dress like a slob, go buy some modest …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/09/24 09:36 PM
1	Women, what do you think are the advantages and disadvantages of men? Would it be easier if you were a man? If you take it one step further, who they are "as an individual person" is intimately tied together with what gender they are. If you take a woman who wishes they were a man instead, and did a rewind of their life but flipped their sex chromosomes to XY at birth, they may very well find themselves wishing for something completely different because if they were a man instead, they would fundamentally have been a very different person with different perspectives after having had to endure the rigo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/09/24 09:21 PM
1	It's a bit disingenous to say that "straight men and women can be friends" but then emphasize the need for boundaries in an opposite sex friendship. I feel like we have this weird disconnect here, so maybe you can help me resolve it. The way I see a friendship is that there are components of emotional and physical connection that we express through intimacy, and the level to which I am connected to a friend is directly related to how intimate we are. For example, if I had a life-changing event, I know which friends I would be reaching out to, because they've shown me that they are comfortable with a certain level of emotional intimacy, and s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/08/24 10:30 PM
5	It's a bit disingenous to say that "straight men and women can be friends" but then emphasize the need for boundaries in an opposite sex friendship. Right, so do you treat them on different scales of intimacy; that's the definition of diminish.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/08/24 11:20 AM
4	It's a bit disingenous to say that "straight men and women can be friends" but then emphasize the need for boundaries in an opposite sex friendship. Then I think your answer is yes, your friendship with them was diminished for the fact that they were straight men. If your female friend was crying and having a bad day, you wouldn't hesitate to hug them and comfort them. If your male friend was crying and having a bad day, you will hesitate and hold back -- the immediate natural empathy you show him is diminished compared to the empathy you show her.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/08/24 10:47 AM
2	The moment a guy finds out a kid isn't his, he should be able to waive all paternal responsibilities You guys act as if genetic testing on the mother and the baby isn't already mandatory in hospitals operating in states like California.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/08/24 03:54 AM
10	People who assume romantically unsuccessful men just need to "talk to women" more are naive Feminism is literally just female blackpill/incel: "We cannot get the things we want from the world because the opposite gender has it and won't give it to us even though we deserve it, and by doing so they are oppressing us with their privilege. So we're gonna do a bunch of shit to get attention about how much it sucks for us until someone gives us what we want." The only difference is that society is okay with giving freely to women, but it is not okay with giving freely to men	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/08/24 05:02 PM
–	The dating market does not suck for women This is because our society has become so atomized that modern dating is now a prisoners dilemma. The best strategy for dealing with detachment and rejection from romantic prospects is to detach and reject them first. This is part of why every culture has some kind of framework dictating the dynamics of male-female relationships. Because each individual person cannot be reasonably expected or trusted to engage in relationships in a prosocial way that doesn't only maximize their own gain. But col…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/08/24 12:28 AM
-1	Why is it wrong to say that if men are in the mood and women are neutral (but not agaisnt it) they should have sex with their SO? I know you want to try to distance them from the norm by labeling them as weirdos, but they are the norm. Most women do act that way, whether they have the self-awareness to recognize it or not. They call it an ick, or a turn-off, or a red flag, different words same idea -- He didn't live up to the masculine ideal that she wanted from him. This is why the duties are not the same, because what men value in women is not equal to what women value in men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/24 10:28 AM
3	Single men over 30 would you date women your age? The red pill is just the collective understanding of how things actually work, with zero regard for social acceptability, political correctness, or moral considerations. In the current context, it is the sum of knowledge that frees men who have been perpetually fed lies about the world of relationships because in the short term, it benefits our gynocentric culture to keep men in the dark. Every derivative product you see on the web that brands itself as the red pill, trying to sell you online co…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/24 10:20 AM
0	Single men over 30 would you date women your age? The red pill is DayQuil because it's the color of the day, and the blue pill is NyQuil because that's the color of the night. How did you even mix that up?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/24 10:12 AM
-5	Why is it wrong to say that if men are in the mood and women are neutral (but not agaisnt it) they should have sex with their SO? No, you're grasping at straws. If the guy does not feel like it but the woman wants to, then she's in the wrong for pushing it too. Except you're only applying this to needs that men tend to have in relationships. A man cannot just one day "not feel like" financially providing for the relationship. Or just not feel like allowing for emotional connection. Or just not feel like being communicative. Or just not feel like being available, or attentive, or committed. The levels of intimacy-related ne…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/24 10:09 AM
0	Fathers of kids born from sex tourism shall not be hold responsible for those kids I mean, who on earth would have sex with a prostitute without a condom? Is that, like, a serious question? Because the answer is a lot of people. Like, a LOT. In fact, that is the reason why you DO need to wear a condom with a prostitute, because you know there were people who didn't.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/24 09:57 AM
4	What Male-to-female Ratio would your ideal Society for you to live in have? I like how you say that with zero consideration for all the men who just got murdered; as if they were way better off than the women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/24 09:54 AM
0	What Male-to-female Ratio would your ideal Society for you to live in have? It's actually a very feminist position for the red pill to take that they want to increase the female representation in the world.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/24 09:53 AM
–	Why do so many straight men seem to want anal sex with their women? Will you be in an LTR with a woman if she says she abhors the idea? Yea seriously, people here thinking anal sex was invented in the last 30 years or something along with porn sites? What planet are we on. More likely it's just that men enjoy the sexual exploration of their partners, and anal sex is about as tame as it gets on the topic of sexual exploration. The really adventurous ones start breaking out body candles, leather cuffs, choke collars, leg spreaders, urethral sounds, piercing guns, and dragon ovipositors.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/24 09:50 AM
-4	Why is it wrong to say that if men are in the mood and women are neutral (but not agaisnt it) they should have sex with their SO? This just looks like women want men's needs in a relationship to be conditional and optional but women's needs to be mandatory and non-negotiable. On the one hand, obviously just demanding sex isn't the most effective way to have a sexually fulfilling relationship, but men do not get the same leeway when they fail to meet women's needs for safety, reassurance, security, finances, connection, attention, and commitment. There was a post of a woman asking if she's the asshole for breaking up with h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/24 09:50 AM
–	Why do so many straight men seem to want anal sex with their women? Will you be in an LTR with a woman if she says she abhors the idea? Douche is for the vagina, enema is for the anus.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/24 09:44 AM
–	Why do so many straight men seem to want anal sex with their women? Will you be in an LTR with a woman if she says she abhors the idea? They actually sometimes surgically cut it on purpose so that it won't forcefully tear during childbirth, which would be far more painful.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/24 09:37 AM
-4	Why is it wrong to say that if men are in the mood and women are neutral (but not agaisnt it) they should have sex with their SO? You say that, but women generally assign duties related to security, finances, protection, reassurance, safety, and in this case sexual initiation to the man in the relationship. To the point that women will readily break up or divorce men who fail in these duties, whereas men do not break up with women for losing their job, or failing to fend off an assailant, or not initiating sexual intimacy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/24 09:34 AM
1	Do men just not care about being abused as much as women? They do. It's a sliding scale of how much the attention is valued based on how you feel about the other person. But unlike women, men will rarely place negative value onto attention that they get. As in, I've been hit on, asked out, and even straight up confessed to before by women (and men) that I wasn't interested in. But for me at least, it's never a "woe is me, how dare you put this on me, now I have to deal with this unwanted attention" kind of thing. I'm gracious for their feelings and vul…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/24 09:52 PM
3	Do men just not care about being abused as much as women? I don't think this is a "first few times" situation, because it's not like after the first few times that I get $50 that suddenly the $50 becomes marginally meaningless to me, because no matter how many $50 I get I will never become a millionaire. That is to say, an average man can never hope to match the amount of attention that an average woman gets. The "attention income" difference is just way too disparate between men and women to think that men would suddenly stop caring about positive att…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/24 01:10 PM
1	The Penis-As-Defiler Theory of Slut-Shaming Women slutshame other women because sex as a commodity decreases in value based on how readily other women provide it to men. If you want to wait until marriage to have sex, but Becky across the street fucks on the first date, then your prospects of using sex as leverage to get a man's committment loses its edge because Becky is giving it out with no commitment required. It's in your best interest to force social compliance on Becky, and shame is one of women's sharpest weapons.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/24 12:51 PM
2	why do some dating people have platforms? "What is the cost of lies? It's not that we'll mistake them for the the truth. The real danger is that if we hear enough lies, then we no longer recognize the truth at all." -Valery Legasov, "Chernobyl" 2019	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/24 12:35 PM
2	why do some dating people have platforms? Most little kids get gaslighted by modern culture into thinking that looks don't matter, healthy at every size, men and women are equal, there is a soulmate out there for everyone, just be yourself and you will find someone, etc. It's really a testament to how effective the brainwashing is that we need to reeducate people on facts that humanity has known for thousands of years and reconnect with the obvious truth that you experience every day.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/24 12:31 PM
8	Do men just not care about being abused as much as women? Do you feel like you understand why a compliment would matter much more for men, since they tend to be deprived of it? I.e. If you were a millionaire, being given $50 doesn't matter much, but if you were homeless, $50 could mean not going hungry for another week. Also, I don't think making an account on Grindr just to get compliments is a viable strategy. On an ethical level, you are catfishing the effort of people looking for connection and using them to fuel your need for attention, and on a v…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/24 11:55 AM
3	"No" man fails to get into a relationship because of his personality Yeah, TRP loves to start land wars against Russia in the winter. It's in the manifesto and everything.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/24 11:45 AM
4	"No" man fails to get into a relationship because of his personality Maintaining a relationship isn't like maintaining a yard. You don't just water the lawn and cut the grass the same as every other yard and then it just works. Every person has unique circumstances that dictate their needs and wants based on what stage of life they are in when you meet them, and these may or may not be needs you can fulfill or wants that you align with. Some relationships aren't maintainable because your values or where you are both heading in life fundamentally do not match, and…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/24 11:40 AM
0	"No" man fails to get into a relationship because of his personality It may shock you that there are entire groups of people for whom maintaining a long term relationship is really not a priority.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/24 11:37 AM
0	"No" man fails to get into a relationship because of his personality I think the 0-6 cohort has more single people than the 18-24 cohort.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/24 11:34 AM
2	"No" man fails to get into a relationship because of his personality Women are attracted by excitement, especially when they're young, and there's nothing quite as exciting as making very bad life decisions.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/24 11:28 AM
5	Do men just not care about being abused as much as women? You're putting the cart before the horse. You can't tell a poor starving person that they would be healthier if they ate more organic fruits and grass-fed beef when all they can afford is rice and beans. You are not considering their struggles on the level of of the person who is struggling, but instead looking down at them from a position of privilege. Boys are generally socialized with far less attentiveness from parents, teachers, and peers. Girls receive far more attention, resources, and ca…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/24 11:24 AM
3	Do men just not care about being abused as much as women? Getting attention is the foot in the door to a relationship that all women take for granted because they receive this privilege for free after they go through puberty.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/24 11:20 AM
3	Do men just not care about being abused as much as women? Generally, if you are more attractive to the people that you would like to attract, you will also be more attractive to everyone else. Unless you are aiming to attract a specific niche, i.e. tattoos, piercings, etc. Because being more attractive means losing fat, gaining muscle, good hygiene, taking better care of yourself, dressing better, having more confidence, and so on, and these are universally attractive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/24 11:19 AM
13	Do men just not care about being abused as much as women? My 60 year old female science teacher from high school once told me that I have a beautiful smile. She was like 4 times my age, and I've received other compliments since then, but that compliment still sticks with me. Compliments, even from people you aren't attracted to, definitely matter. I've also been asked out by gay men, and it doesn't even matter that I don't reciprocate the feeling, it still makes me feel good.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/24 11:14 AM
1	Do you think "women supporters" in general place you somewhere you don't even want to be in? We already DID try it. Iceland had a "Women's Strike" to protest sexual violence and unequal pay, as well as to show how important women's work was to society. Paradoxically, it showed that society didn't suddenly collapse from the lack of female workers -- in fact, the entire economy just bounced back after the strike. There were strains on banks as the bank manager had to work as tellers, newspaper were unavailable, theaters shut down from the striking actresses, and men brought their children…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/08/24 11:44 AM
1	Do you think "women supporters" in general place you somewhere you don't even want to be in? No, sounds like you need to take an English class. We're talking about comparison here, otherwise you can argue peeling an orange takes strength because it requires a non-zero amount of physical effort. Compare cutting down a tree, or unclogging a sewer, or setting up the foundation of a building versus... Flipping a patient from the left side to the right side... It's no contest.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/08/24 10:40 PM
1	Do you think "women supporters" in general place you somewhere you don't even want to be in? Hard labor is what keeps people safe and alive. Having nurses and teachers are the secondary needs of a society after security and sustenance are provided for. But nowadays we take security and sustenance for granted because capitalism lets us do that, which is why the disproportionate work of men go unnoticed.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/08/24 08:43 PM
1	Do you think "women supporters" in general place you somewhere you don't even want to be in? What, like a nurse who flips a patient every once in awhile? Compared to the strength you need as a construction worker? Or a logger? Or a soldier? Or a general contractor? It's literally not even a contest.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/08/24 07:42 PM
1	Do you think "women supporters" in general place you somewhere you don't even want to be in? It's not the only labor necessary, but all other labor is meaningless in the absence of men's physical labor. You can't work as a nurse in a hospital if men don't manufacture any of the equipment. You can't work as a teacher in a school if men didn't construct the school. Men's labor forms the basic foundation of all of society, but we have to pretend that this disproportionate input doesn't exist because otherwise women feel bad, as if the statement is judgemental against them that most of the …	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/08/24 07:40 PM
1	Do you think "women supporters" in general place you somewhere you don't even want to be in? I'm saying that capital allows you to abstract the higher physical labor of men into a monetary amount that obfuscates how disproportionately men are the ones keeping society afloat on the level of security, infrastructure, and provision. The lopsidedness of how much men have to do was historically always understood, but now Karen in her HR office sitting in a climate-controlled administrative building thinks her job is worth more than the men who actually constructed her HR office from wood and…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/08/24 07:36 PM
1	Do you think "women supporters" in general place you somewhere you don't even want to be in? Most people would agree that of the male dominated jobs that require physical exertion, most women would underperform due to their unequal physical strength. There's a good reason why generally women don't become loggers, oil riggers, soldiers, firefighters, construction workers, carpenters, etc. And even of the tools we have, who do you think invented, manufactured, and utilize those tools? We don't have women designing crawler cranes and manufacturing crawler cranes to help women do more const…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/08/24 07:16 PM
-1	Do you think "women supporters" in general place you somewhere you don't even want to be in? Physical labor that requires strength, not caretaking labor that requires empathy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/08/24 11:08 AM
4	Do you think "women supporters" in general place you somewhere you don't even want to be in? Feminism can in fact only exist in a capitalist system. Without capitalism, the labor that is overwhelmingly performed by men that keep society running can no longer be abstracted away from the relationships that women need to maintain with men. That is to say, you cannot just pay taxes for a police force to keep you safe, you cannot just hire a contractor to fix your house, and you cannot just pay a grocery store to have access to fresh food. You would have to build relationships with men that …	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/08/24 09:39 AM
1	Feminism actually makes a lot of sense if you think about it from the right perspective. We are just seeing history repeat itself. Religion does not by definition require belief in a higher power, e.g. Buddhism, Taoism, etc.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/07/24 03:53 AM
–	Does the "double standard" in promiscuity conclude, intentionally or not, that men are gross and disgusting & women are beautiful and desirable? It's just a reframe of female privilege -- that women have inherent positive value from birth, whereas men have inherent negative value that they need to constantly make up for.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/24 09:01 AM
–	Does the "double standard" in promiscuity conclude, intentionally or not, that men are gross and disgusting & women are beautiful and desirable? Yeah, civilization was built on the backs of expendable human lives and the willingness to cause suffering. Your present comfort rests on a bed of corpses made up of men that were foreign to your victorious ancestors.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/24 08:58 AM
-4	Sex is really only a physical need... That's like saying a stable shelter is not really a physical need. No, you won't directly just straight up die from having to live outside, but your exposure to the elements, vulnerability to predators, increase in stress, dealing with changes in temperature, suffering in mental health, and lack of a controllable living environment are all going to massively impact your quality of life. Likewise, not having access to the benefits of sexual and emotional intimacy with a partner through sex also h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/24 06:31 PM
2	Feminism cant claim moral superiority on gender issues and gender equality without giving equal importance and providing equal effort to mens issues The Senate voted 85 to 13 on Tuesday to pass the National Defense Authorization Act, which included the provision requiring women between the ages of 18 and 25 to sign up to serve their country. Wait, so it passed right? How come there isn't currently a military draft for women aged 18-25?	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/24 06:24 PM
1	Q4M: Are you experiencing older women competing with younger women more in dating nowadays? I think that's actually an important part of growth. In a sense, you are kind of going through a new stage in life after every breakup. You have to test your limits and boundaries again to figure out which ones were real, which ones were self-imposed, and which ones were imposed by your partner. You might have had a bunch of hobbies that your partner was not okay with and you gave them up for her, and now you need to rediscover them. Or you might have been a socializer, and she was insecure abou…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/24 06:21 PM
2	Q4M: Are you experiencing older women competing with younger women more in dating nowadays? That reminds me, I actually saw that there is a possible divorce arrangement in which there is one house that the kids live in where the mom lives in that house 50% of the time and the dad lives in that house the other 50% of the time, so that the kids have a stable home, but the parents switch off based on court-appointed child custody agreements. This is certainly better for the children, but this certainly comes with its own complications (e.g. financially). As far as professionally, you have…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/24 05:55 PM
–	A lot of the discussions here are trash because people can't differentiate between the pills You said "Was that before or after Trump got elected?" like it's some kind of got'cha, and you failed to provide an actual point by producing the equivalent of a snarky hit-and-run. Next time, start by making a point, ending in a period, that can be agreed with or disagreed with, and then you can have a discussion. I'm not going to make assumptions about what your claim was based on a passive-aggressive question just for you to weasel out with "Well I never said that, I was just asking about whe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/24 05:48 PM
3	Q4M: Are you experiencing older women competing with younger women more in dating nowadays? Yeah, but there isn't some cabal of divorced men who are all living like cave gremlins because they lack the ability to put clothing into a washing machine and then press a button or turn on a vacuum and push it around for a few minutes now that the wife isn't around. I'm not saying that it doesn't happen, but it's kinda dramatic to say most divorced men are desperate to get remarried to... Have someone load the dishwasher... Usually what is more likely is that guys recognize the amount of time,…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/24 05:24 PM
–	A lot of the discussions here are trash because people can't differentiate between the pills I'll engage with intellectual honesty if you do as well. Or we can play games with asking rhetorical questions so that you can't actually be pinned down on what claim you're trying to put forward. If you want to talk about just the United States for the moment, the public facing mainstream culture is incredibly bluepilled. The majority of the United States' cultural exports and domestic media is generated by overwhelmingly left-leaning producers, actors, directors, etc., and none of their public…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/24 12:57 PM
–	A lot of the discussions here are trash because people can't differentiate between the pills Be honest and say what you actually mean.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/24 12:15 PM
2	Q4M: Are you experiencing older women competing with younger women more in dating nowadays? Dude, half of all "household affairs" are just made-up standards by women who are far more fussy about their domestic environment than men are. Have you visited /r/malelivingspace? Most men just want a bed with sheets, a computer setup, a couch, a table, and some space to put their hobbies (television, game console, collectibles, etc) -- and they keep the space quite well relative to men's standards. Washing machines, dryers, dishwashers, vacuum cleaners, Roombas, blenders, ovens, microwaves, an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/24 07:30 AM
12	Do men or women experience more violent crime in America? I feel like it is a disingenuous attempt to derail the topic every single time a woman wants to turn a discussion about male victims of violence into a "but men perpetrate it" discussion instead. Because the underlying assumption of that statement is that men are the enemy, and men killing men is fine because they are just wiping each other out -- literally zero empathy from women. Imagine trying to untangle black-on-black violence with the same rhetoric; that black people are disproportionately…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/24 07:11 AM
1	A lot of the discussions here are trash because people can't differentiate between the pills The only reason why it's even needed is because the mainstream slowly became bluepilled with the idealism that arose in the age of booming changes in technology and culture, erroneously believing that human evolution and biological adaptation can suddenly go "Oh, alrighty then." and do a complete 180 degree turn on our behavior and our psychology to get with the program in response to those booming changes. Spoiler alert -- It did not. To its credit, there is a level of adaptation in the directi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/24 06:41 AM
–	what are your thoughts on age gaps in relationship? And yet people have far less fulfilling relationships in 2024 than previously. It's almost as if having infinite free choice doesn't magically make for better relationships, but in fact worse.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/24 07:13 AM
0	what are your thoughts on age gaps in relationship? I'm pretty sure he is the norm, not the exception. The majority of relationships in the past has had far larger age gaps than the present day. What people think is normal versus exceptional has rapidly changed only in the last several decades with the advent of technology massively shifting our culture.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/24 10:45 PM
1	What US women want is a fantasy Except that's not really a fantasy, there are clearly dudes that get with women they have nothing in common with. Those are the ones that make women think "are we all dating the same guy". But in reverse, very few attractive masculine men are dating fat unfeminine women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/24 10:40 PM
2	New Stanford Study finds huge differences between male and female brain activity A lot. If someone asks me what is 16/64 and I said it is 1/4, and my internal working is because 16 x 4 = 64. And then someone asks you what is 16/64 and you say 1/4, but your internal working is because the 6 in the numerator cancels out with the 6 in the denominator, then despite the end behavior appearing identical, a model that grants explanatory power for me will have zero explanatory power for you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/24 10:36 PM
2	Women with promiscuous pasts who are sexually reserved/borderline asexual with their LTRs You've already told us all enough about you by unironically using the phrase "in the 21st century" as if the entire world shares your worldview of what the 21st century means for relationships. That level of egocentrism is primarily found in exactly that last 10% of the population that is privileged enough to even hold the beliefs that you are spouting at me right now while lacking the awareness of the existence of the other 90% of the population in Asia, Africa, Eastern Europe, the Middle East,…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/24 10:14 PM
1	Men here only think they have low standards because they are blind to most things Women do as default Men are way more driven on logic and systems than emotions and socializing. That's why things like classic TRP even exist; to bridge the gap of how to practice intersexual socialization with truths that are too emotionally dissonant to be shared publicly in polite conversation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/24 03:29 PM
3	Women with promiscuous pasts who are sexually reserved/borderline asexual with their LTRs Firstly, because that ISN'T a relationship in the 21st century. Stop conflating your small liberal social bubble with the entire century of human existence of the Earth. At most you can say relationships in the socially progressive areas of North America, Western Europe, and Australia might have some amount of equivalence between men and women, making up maybe 10% of the world's population. But in the other 90% of the world living in Asia, Africa, Eastern Europe, the Middle East, South America, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/24 03:11 PM
3	Women with promiscuous pasts who are sexually reserved/borderline asexual with their LTRs Then you have a fundamental misunderstanding of relationships. Relationships are absolutely transactional at their core, but the transaction is invisible for relationships that that are going smoothly. If you have to constantly talk about the underlying transaction, your relationship is probably already on the rocks. Just like how if you have to constantly talk to your boss about getting paid, your job is also on the rocks.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/24 06:24 AM
1	Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings? White only spaces exist because whites can feel vulnerable around blacks. Yeah, no. Your statement fails the privilege test. It is a clear double standard.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/24 09:13 AM
1	Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings? Whataboutism? We can move on if you want to first admit that you are applying a sexist double standard against men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/24 09:10 AM
1	Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings? Does a woman's feelings take precedence over the reality of sexism against men? It doesn't make sense to give a textbook definition of a sexist double standard, and to say that it isn't a sexist double standard because of "women's feelings". Feelings do not excuse sexism, a woman's feelings are her responsibility.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/24 04:19 AM
1	Women with promiscuous pasts who are sexually reserved/borderline asexual with their LTRs Ask any woman, "What do you provide your partner that his family, friends, and coworkers can't provide?", and watch her go mute.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/24 03:02 AM
1	Women with promiscuous pasts who are sexually reserved/borderline asexual with their LTRs My brother is my actual family, and knows more about me than my wife ever will. Like it or not, sex IS the make-or-break of a sexual relationship. There is nothing a woman can provide for you within a relationship otherwise that someone else can't provide also.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/24 01:31 AM
5	Women with promiscuous pasts who are sexually reserved/borderline asexual with their LTRs If you are hung up about working for a few months before you get paid, it makes it seem like all you want is a salary.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/24 01:28 AM
7	CMV: Men tend to like feminine women That's like saying, strong independent women aren't intimidated by real men who make her submissive and put her in her place. Ones who know his own worth and don't need to tolerate her bullshit. Women like an alpha.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/06/24 03:14 AM
3	Social skills are fundimental to being successful in relationships, and they are more important than looks, status or wealth. It's because men get rewarded more for physical skills than social skills. Look at what an absolute social mess the top billionaires are. Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg, and Jeff Bezos have the combined charisma of a doorknob.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/06/24 02:20 AM
–	Men don't hate women; men hate that women deny their privilege. None of those are problems "caused" by men, you are just arguing for women to receive the privileges of a masculine role in society without shouldering its burdens. The role of men puts the responsibility on them to found the university, fund the university, and build the university. Since women had none of these responsibilities, they also did not participate in the privileges of the unversity itself. If women wanted to go found their own unversity, fund it, and build it they can certainly make…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/24 10:25 AM
3	Why you should never be friends with someone you’re attracted to If anything, she manipulated herself unless they had an explicit conversation about this. Otherwise she's just making things up in her head to be upset about.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/06/24 06:41 AM
1	Why you should never be friends with someone you’re attracted to When you meet new people, classmates, coworkers, etc., the default is to be friendly; it doesn't mean you're going to be friends with everyone you meet, but because having a baseline of cordial behavior is the only way you're going to get to know new people. And in that process of getting to know people, some of those people you get to know become attractive prospects for romance, and so you share your feelings. If those feelings are rejected, then it's natural that you move on from that person …	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/06/24 06:38 AM
0	Why you should never be friends with someone you’re attracted to In a brave new world, where the only two acceptable greetings are "Hi, I find you physically attractive." and "Hi, I do not find you physically attractive."...	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/06/24 05:11 AM
5	Why you should never be friends with someone you’re attracted to I think women get hurt mainly because they incorrectly view male romantic interest as if it's only about her body, which is a thought that she has put into her own head and not a thought that is genuinely coming from the man. When a man confesses after having to get to know her for so long, he is probably the least likely to be looking for a quick fling -- he can get that more easily talking to random girls at a bar. This is a situation where someone has gotten to know her so well and still want…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/06/24 05:10 AM
3	Why you should never be friends with someone you’re attracted to I don't think this is a genuine take. Girls do not want everyone who has feelings for them to just walk up to them and express their feelings. Nor did everyone who is friendly with her and end up catching feelings have those intentions to begin with. Relationships change, and friendships can certainly change into something different over time. If he feels differently and lets her know, and she doesn't feel the same, I think it's absolutely appropriate for him to leave the relationship and heal, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/06/24 05:03 AM
1	Why you should never be friends with someone you’re attracted to I think usually the problem is that friendship isn't explicitly stated the way romantic relationships are expected to be. The man usually never agreed to be "just a friend", the girl just gets it into her head that he's just being friendly, while the man has it in his head that he's building up to the possibility of romance.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/06/24 04:59 AM
1	Why does this generation fixate and obsses so much over "therapy"? It's simple really; if you think you deserve none of the responsibilities to the society in which you live, then you also deserve none of the rewards that you get from that society.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/24 09:31 PM
1	Why does this generation fixate and obsses so much over "therapy"? Then you're not responsible for any of the successes that you benefit from in your life either.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/24 07:54 AM
3	Why are so many people just unable to separate what is moral with what is true? Because you are mixing up descriptive claims and prescriptive claims in your head. The statement "this is how it is" is different from the statement "this is how it should be".	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/24 09:45 AM
4	Why are so many people just unable to separate what is moral with what is true? Please don't make it like you've transcended evolution or something; your ability to think is precisely the product of the same mechanical process that has evolved the rest of the animal kingdom. Humans are not special. We have evolved metacognition, which gives us more adaptability, but in the end it is still a means to increase our chances of passing on genes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/24 09:43 AM
7	Would you prefer a society governed by Islamic law and norms over the status quo? Is it just me, or does anyone else feel like it's a waste to make bacon without having planned to cook something with the bacon grease after? When I see people cook bacon and then throw away the grease, a part of me dies inside.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/24 06:51 AM
1	Do lesbians expect to go 50/50 in their relationships? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4E8qEDi_xg	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/24 05:42 AM
2	Why does TRP make people so angry? That's like saying "if medicine really worked, you wouldn't need medical schools".	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/24 02:42 AM
2	Q4W: Would you be willing to receive no male attention at all, if it meant eliminating unwanted attention? Because you decided to derail a discussion about men's problems by, once again, making the focus about what WOMEN need. Are we able to have a conversation about men without having to cater to women?	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/06/24 10:01 AM
3	Q4W: Would you be willing to receive no male attention at all, if it meant eliminating unwanted attention? Isn't it funny how if you talk about female problems, it's totally fine to have endless comparisons about men regarding the differences in salary, female versus male representation in media, the lack of men doing housework, the fear women feel due to the differences in physical power, the disproportionate victimhood of women to sexual harrassment -- but the moment it's male problems, absolutely ZERO comparisons are allowed with women if it doesn't benefit the female narrative? How do you manage …	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/24 02:20 PM
3	Q4W: Would you be willing to receive no male attention at all, if it meant eliminating unwanted attention? Is it possible to speak about a male problem and have a conversation, just for a moment, about just male problems without having to talk about female problems? Or would that count as a dismissal of women's problems?	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/24 06:58 AM
5	Q4W: Would you be willing to receive no male attention at all, if it meant eliminating unwanted attention? Then I suppose the question is, why did you end up preemptively asking him not to if there was no indication that such a thing was happening, or that it was going to happen at all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/24 11:29 AM
1	Do you think that women are partly responsible for men's insecurities? But it's clearly imbalanced, men get way more shit about their dick size than women get about how loose they are, even though you can't have one without the other. If you need 8 inches of girth before you can feel anything, that's kinda on you and not the guy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/24 09:26 AM
1	Is lying about your career in hopes of getting a ONS wrong or immoral? When something works, people generally don't really care about whether it is (insert judgemental adjective here).	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/24 09:22 AM
3	Men Shouldn't Feel Obligated to Rescue Women After Relationship Betrayals OP is referring to a specific kind of woman who chase after men with toxic traits and do not value men who put in effort. Do you consider yourself inside the subset of the women that OP is talking about or did you just misunderstand?	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/24 09:17 AM
-1	Is the use of makeup deceptive? Yeah, and men are perceived as a little more attractive if they lie about their job, places they've traveled to, and people they've met. Can you accept being perceived as being uglier but truthful to who you are?	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/24 08:54 AM
0	Is the use of makeup deceptive? Yeah, then accept that you are less attractive when you aren't being deceptive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/24 08:52 AM
8	Q4W: Would you be willing to receive no male attention at all, if it meant eliminating unwanted attention? Where did the OP dismiss women's problems? I don't see it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/24 08:49 AM
1	The phrase "every man pays" makes as much sense as "every woman pays". Yeah, I think I agree with you if the point is that you can exchange A for B, because your partner wants to exchange B for A. When you say love for love, time for time, sex for sex, it sounded as if you can only exchange A for A, B for B, etc. The point I was trying to make is that it's not going to be some equal this-for-this relationship, like if I do 50% of the housework you must do 50% of the housework. If I make 100k per year, you must make 100k per year, etc., or else the relationship is s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/24 09:21 PM
1	Is it a man's responsibility to turn a woman on? I appreciate that you touched on the inequalities within a relationship (e.g. the man wanting sex more than the woman), but I don't think equality is the answer, because it almost never really is an effective solution. Women are not going to as a whole start becoming equally sexually assertive as men just because on a moral or societal level it is the right thing to do in the name of equality. No matter how much space you give them, how much you stop shaming promiscuity, how much you make sex pe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/24 09:13 PM
1	Is it a man's responsibility to turn a woman on? I think the difficult part is that when the society you are living in still thinks that the lie is the truth, you can't just up and dismiss the contents of the lie because it is currently still affecting your life in the present day. It's like telling Black people, "Your life is just as valuable as any other American, and since you now recognize this as the truth, you no longer have to feel any positivity or negativity about the issue of whether your life matters." Well, it's difficult to do tha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/24 03:33 PM
1	Ladies with high standards, no judgement, what are your standards and how do you justify them? Damn, that sucks.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/24 03:28 PM
2	Is it a man's responsibility to turn a woman on? I think it's important to recognize what is, just as a basic principle. The fact that something is is a good enough reason to recognize it as such, whether or not you would complain about it is after-the-fact because that's personal to you. There are plenty of men for whom this is an active point of resentment, because it represents a lie on the part of our modern feminist culture that sold us a lie of gender equality, i.e. if one gender has to do more than the other gender, then it is not equal…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/24 03:17 PM
3	Ladies with high standards, no judgement, what are your standards and how do you justify them? I don't think I've ever seen on here the notion that if a woman is a virgin, and they are waiting for marriage to have sex, especially if for religious reasons, that this is an unreasonable situation. The only similar situation that I have seen such a response to from men is of women who have had past partners that they had sex with under a particular set of standards, and they change those standards for a current partner (e.g. sex on the first date with an ex, but now it's no sex until marriage…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/24 03:13 PM
2	Ladies with high standards, no judgement, what are your standards and how do you justify them? I mean, if you think all it takes for you to be a man is to identify as a man then I don't think I can continue this conversation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/24 03:09 PM
1	Women who hate Redpillers do not hate Redpillers Yeah, and teaching men all of those actionable steps do not require transacting social media exposure to inebriated 20-somethings in a party city on the cock-end of the continential United States in exchange for appearing on your "alpha male" podcast so they can be berated for two hours over obnoxious '80s radio sound board noises and a host that cuts the mic or kicks you out if they don't like what you say.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/24 03:05 PM
2	Is it a man's responsibility to turn a woman on? I mean, there's no definition for passive or active that would turn this the other way around. In what ways could women possibly be expected to be active and men expected to be passive as a whole? And yes, the differences between men and women are what spurs this incongruence of expectations. The fact that men are easier to turn on is itself part of the deciding factor for why women are passive and men are active. We can't just ignore sex-based factors when looking at the differences between the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/24 02:59 PM
-2	Ladies with high standards, no judgement, what are your standards and how do you justify them? For the gender expectations, if you weren't a woman you wouldn't be capable of bearing a child. If you weren't a woman you wouldn't be pregnant. Those are really the textbook examples of different expectations in a relationship, because each gender has its role and a lot of it revolves around men being physically stronger, mentally suited to big-picture thinking, and having no womb, with women being emotionally attuned, mentally suited to detail-oriented thinking, and having a womb. You're argui…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/24 09:45 AM
1	Q4Men: Do you expect women to cook for you during the “talking stage”? Because there's no way to tell who the okay feminists are from the not-okay feminists if you all just call yourselves feminists.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/24 09:29 AM
3	Is it a man's responsibility to turn a woman on? I think the difference is that men are expected to do this actively, while women are expected to do this passively.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/24 09:26 AM
0	Ladies with high standards, no judgement, what are your standards and how do you justify them? Not to nitpick on your preferences, since you have a partner so it's worked out for you which is great, but I suppose there are a few comments for me to make. The first being that the age range one might be open to question, but it depends on what age you are as well and what your family goals are. Also, needing to find you very sexually attractive might actually not be as realistic? Unless you mean literally just in general, at the start of the relationship, in which case that is reasonable. Bu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/24 09:17 AM
3	Ladies with high standards, no judgement, what are your standards and how do you justify them? The average man makes 45k per year in the US but most women will say that putting your standards at a man who makes 45k counts as settling. I think taking the average of all people and saying anything above that line is high standards is pretty silly.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/24 08:53 AM
-1	Ladies with high standards, no judgement, what are your standards and how do you justify them? I feel like it would take that long due to the sheer volume of your list -- If each of these are literal dealbreakers, as in having just one of them completely invalidates a partner even if they meet the other 99 out of the 100 conditions, then even if each condition individually is reasonable, having 100 of them means you are taking a reasonable percentage to the exponential power of 100, which greatly diminishes the available pool.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/24 08:51 AM
7	Ladies with high standards, no judgement, what are your standards and how do you justify them? Wait, what? That's TOTALLY reasonable. If you are a virgin and you are waiting for marriage, and you are putting active effort into finding another man who matches your criteria, I don't see the problem with this. Who exactly disagrees with this?	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/24 08:43 AM
4	Women who hate Redpillers do not hate Redpillers I don't even consider Myron to be actual red pill, he's just running a grift game on YouTube selling bullshit content of drunk Miami girls being baited into saying the stupidest shit on camera. It's not representative of women outside of that narrow demographic, but it's validating to men who already hold negative views of women to see the most stereotypic Instagram-addicted party-girl behavior on screen. This kind of mental masturbation for validation is incel-adjacent as far as I'm concerned. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/24 08:40 AM
2	The phrase "every man pays" makes as much sense as "every woman pays". I think your original post betrays your internal bias: In this context everyone exchanges or "pays" in every relationships they have. Not only men, but women as well. Women are expected to provide some kind of value in their relationships. It can be just sex if it's casual dating The fact that you think a woman is "paying" by having sex and that the man is not "paying" by having sex shows you already know that there is an imbalance between men and women in this regard. There are some commonaliti…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/24 08:12 AM
1	Are there really women out there that expect men to pay for literally everything in a relationship? Except all of those opportunities came with paired responsibilities. Women have taken all of the opportunities of men while taking on relatively few of the responsibilities that each opportunity costs a man. The man is expected to create resources and to provide materially, and the capitalist concept of a bank account is just an extension of this responsibility that women do not have. Now women have equal access to the opportunity to store value, but they by far still do not create resources or …	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/06/24 09:07 AM
1	Are there really women out there that expect men to pay for literally everything in a relationship? You guys didn't fight for equality, you guys fought to get more than you had. Equality is the convenient moralizing excuse that you use to selectively target only the parts of "equality" where you stand to gain (more female CEOs) while conveniently ignoring equality where you would stand to lose (more female garbage collectors).	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/06/24 03:39 AM
11	Why is sex so important to men in the early stages of dating? Because a sexual relationship is the only socially acceptable context in which to get your sexual needs met. It's like going to work for no pay and when you bring it up, your boss is asking you why is your salary so important to you. Like, how would you like going to a workplace that tells you it's an unpaid internship for the first 3 weeks? Being paid shows that the workplace actually values you as a salaried employee who they want to retain. Similarly, enthusiastic sex is the only truly honest…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/24 05:05 AM
1	Can women feel true empathy for men? I'm not necessarily saying you have to agree, but what you are describing is sympathizing. Empathizing means if someone is in pain, you actually feel that pain as well. Like when a man sees another man get kicked in the testicles, and the observer flinches and gets a squeezing feeling in his guts -- that's empathy. If you're like, "Oh my, that must hurt." that's sympathy. The best way to think of it is that empathy is when your experience is parallel with the other person -- If they tell you a s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/24 06:41 AM
1	Can women feel true empathy for men? I don't think you're talking about empathy. Having empathy as a woman means thinking "If I were a man instead, and in his situation, how would I feel?"	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/24 10:30 PM
–	Many women don't realize that emotions are not reality. In what kind of situations in your experience do men fail to recognize that their feelings about reality is not reality itself?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/24 12:01 PM
–	Many women don't realize that emotions are not reality. Glad to hear it resonates with you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/24 12:00 PM
–	Many women don't realize that emotions are not reality. I see you. I hope you are in a better place now, but if not and you want to talk, let me know.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/24 11:52 AM
–	Many women don't realize that emotions are not reality. If a Black woman walks by a Chinese man who is talking on the phone, and the Chinese man says 那个 (nèi ge) and she gets offended because she thinks he just called her the N-word, it does not mean that he was being offensive. Her feelings about the situation do not dictate the external reality of whether he is actually being offensive or not.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/24 11:50 AM
–	Many women don't realize that emotions are not reality. You're talking about the phenomena that emerge out of biology. Social norms arise from biology's interactions with the selective pressures of an environment. Culture is partially the accumulation of these emergent social norms interacting. The group with more power isn't artificially putting laws into place to maliciously keep women from anything -- it's a natural matter-of-course that these are the sorts of laws that have kept the order of that civilization and ensured its survival. Do you ever…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/24 11:46 AM
–	Many women don't realize that emotions are not reality. I mean, I don't know what to tell you other than that it's an observation which seems to track, not a reification of anything that I feel. This is the only way I can lay it out to have a perspective that gives explanatory power for what women do with their feelings. How would you like it to be defined instead if not as a reification of their emotions? We can call it something else if you take issue with the word, it was just the most appropriate word I could find.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/24 11:33 AM
–	Many women don't realize that emotions are not reality. Yes, but I think women as a group just do this as a matter-of-course. The dynamic that I see from women talking to each other is that they endlessly validate each others' emotions, rarely that they challenge them. Whereas in the converse, when men are talking with each other, if one of them says some bullshit, they get called out and clowned on. For better or for worse, men just don't tolerate you trying to "alter reality" with your personal feelings the same way that women will just inflate eac…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/24 11:29 AM
–	Many women don't realize that emotions are not reality. Or maybe we interpret them differently, but you seem to be talking about blackpill stuff, where it's like "Woe is me, the rest of the world is the problem, it's not my responsibility to improve myself, etc."	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/24 11:24 AM
–	Many women don't realize that emotions are not reality. Are you talking about incels? There's no red pill guy on PPD saying "The world owes me romance and sex."	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/24 11:22 AM
–	Many women don't realize that emotions are not reality. I have to use the word because you are either willfully or accidentally misrepresenting my point at every turn. At no point did I say half the things that you are arguing against; you are literally shadow-boxing with a strawman that you have made up in your mind from your own past negative experiences and are projecting them on to me. You address none of the things that I have actually typed out, in English words, and you're instead arguing against some version of me that you have concocted in y…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/24 11:21 AM
–	Many women don't realize that emotions are not reality. The pattern is that women do this more than men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/24 11:17 AM
–	Many women don't realize that emotions are not reality. Bears don't kill you just out of fear or necessity, except for Grizzlies who might attack you because it's startled. Brown bears might attack you just because you are in its territory. Black bears will definitely attack you because it's hungry. Asiatic bears might kill you out of curiosity. Polar bears will kill you just because it wants to. But all bears are unpredictable, especially when compared with a man. The man likely lives in a society, went to school, had an upbringing, was brought up t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/24 11:15 AM
–	Many women don't realize that emotions are not reality. You'll have to forgive me as I sift through upwards of 600+ comments in less than 24 hours. I'd say that would be reasonable, wouldn't you?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/24 11:03 AM
–	Many women don't realize that emotions are not reality. Thank you, I actually feel heard based on your response. A lot of people are projecting onto me their own baggage of "you're just saying women are more emotional and men are more logical" onto me, and in a way that is the reification of their own emotional stuff as well. But you're right, both ways in which people are socialized to treat their emotions has its advantages and disadvantages. Even in the OP I addressed this, which is that men can get so divorced from their feelings from the complet…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/24 11:02 AM
–	Many women don't realize that emotions are not reality. You just did it. This is literally the reification of your feelings in even a hypothetical scenario, and I'm watching it happen in real-time -- she feels miserable, and instead of introspecting this feeling, you project it into the reality of the relationship, i.e. she is the one who is suffering, it is the partner's fault, this relationship involves one-sided degrading use of her body. You turned a hypothetical feeling into a full-blown constructed reality, where she bears no responsibilities f…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/24 10:48 AM
–	Many women don't realize that emotions are not reality. Yes, the main point is that feelings are representative of reality, because they derive from our senses, which gathers information about the external world.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/24 10:45 AM
–	Many women don't realize that emotions are not reality. Yeah, I would say that this tracks.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/24 10:29 AM
–	Many women don't realize that emotions are not reality. Emotions are representative of reality because they provide us information about reality, through our senses which give us feelings, which get interpreted into emotions. The mistake we don't want to make is to mix up how we feel about reality with reality itself. If I am standing on the glass floor of the Grand Canyon observation deck, I feel in danger because I can see thousands of feet downward. But I am not actually in danger, because I am standing on a reinforced glass floor.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/24 10:28 AM
–	Many women don't realize that emotions are not reality. I would say that some of the beliefs that incel/blackpill communities can be seen as a reification of emotions. But with that being a relatively niche group of marginalized men, versus the reification of emotions that many women naturally do as a part of her feminine nature, the scale of difference between how often women are reifying their emotions onto external reality far outnumbers the men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/24 10:24 AM
–	Many women don't realize that emotions are not reality. I feel like I made the point pretty well, but it's still getting missed. Men being emotional or women being emotional isn't the crux of my point. My claim is that the reification of emotions is mainly in the domain of women. Men do not reify their emotions the way that women do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/24 10:19 AM
–	Many women don't realize that emotions are not reality. But do men reify their emotions like women do?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/24 10:18 AM
–	Many women don't realize that emotions are not reality. I do consider anger an emotion. And it is certainly one of the emotions that men do reify. But at scale, women will reify anxiety, fear, jealousy, rejection, insecurity, shame, guilt, and most of their other emotions whereas men generally do not project their emotions onto the external world as women do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/24 10:17 AM
–	Many women don't realize that emotions are not reality. In the hypothetical question, it is in fact exactly what proves my point. Women feel threatened by men, women do not feel threatened by bears. Therefore women feel the correct choice is to pick the bear, and the reification of her feelings makes this the correct choice de facto. Men point out that reality doesn't work this way; that just because you feel men are more dangerous to be alone with doesn't mean that external reality agrees with you, because if you put any two brain cells together you…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/24 10:14 AM
–	Many women don't realize that emotions are not reality. But how many of those men reify their emotions? Probably fewer than women who reify their emotions. The male reification I see usually comes from a minority from the incel/blackpill community with maybe something like, "I'm inferior and it is the world's fault because society decided that you need to be 6 feet tall with chiseled bone structure to be attractive.". But generally men do not direct their emotions in a way that reifies it against the external world. They generally turn their feelings…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/24 10:12 AM
–	Many women don't realize that emotions are not reality. It's hard to know what point you are trying to make about the original claim, or if you're just throwing in snarky remarks because you have nothing meaningful to say. Women reifying their feelings has nothing to do with the social restrictions on men and their emotions.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/24 10:05 AM
–	Many women don't realize that emotions are not reality. I also grieve my lack of academic funding in order to perform a rigorous social sciences study on women and her emotionality. But even if I were in a station to do so I doubt present-day universities would allow a research grant for a thesis that didn't guarantee a politically-acceptable narrative about women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/24 10:03 AM
–	Many women don't realize that emotions are not reality. In the hypothetical question, it is in fact exactly what proves my point. Women feel threatened by men, women do not feel threatened by bears. Therefore women feel the correct choice is to pick the bear, and the reification of her feelings makes this the correct choice de facto. Men point out that reality doesn't work this way; that just because you feel men are more dangerous to be alone with doesn't mean that external reality agrees with you, because if you put any two brain cells together you…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/24 09:55 AM
–	Many women don't realize that emotions are not reality. Being stoic is the sign of emotional intelligence -- the understanding that, for example, feeling endangered and being in danger are two separate things; that your emotions do not define reality. Women tend to lack this ability to discern what their feeling is from what reality is, which is the crux of why it is so difficult to communicate. For men, even if they are emotional and frustrated or anxious or fearful, they tend not to map their emotion onto reality as if it defines it. For example, f…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/24 09:46 AM
–	Many women don't realize that emotions are not reality. I feel like "anger" is literally the only thing people can jump to when talking about men's emotions. When we literally have women who will reify their sadness, their jealousy, their unease, their anger, their frustration, their disappointment, their anxiety, their fear, and hundreds of other emotions -- and project them onto external reality as if they are reality. You can't really cover up the ENTIRE spectrum of female emotional reification by trying to do some whataboutism with men, the patte…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/24 06:40 AM
–	Many women don't realize that emotions are not reality. The point is that even when men get emotional, they don't mix up their emotions for physical reality the way that women tend to do. That is what makes conversation so difficult.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/24 06:36 AM
–	Many women don't realize that emotions are not reality. I think you might be right about anger, in that out of all the emotions that men might reify, anger is the most likely one. But even then, on the whole, men reify their emotions far far FAR less than women, because women will reify every emotion -- anxiety, shame, guilt, fear, sadness, anger, jealousy, etc. We have examples on this very subreddit of women reifying all of these emotions, e.g. I feel threatened by men, therefore men are threatening. Someone made a comment that made me feel ashamed…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/24 06:30 AM
10	Many women don't realize that emotions are not reality. I would say: Just because you're offended, doesn't mean anything/anyone was offensive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/24 10:37 PM
1	Many women don't realize that emotions are not reality. It's okay for your logic to be affected by your emotions, because you have metacognition of it -- You are able to talk about the fact that your logic is affected by your emotions, and this level of awareness lets you act on that higher level of understanding. The reification of emotions is different -- It is where you think reality actually starts and ends at how you feel. If someone says "Single mothers have a harder time finding a man to commit to them." and a woman hears this, feels shame bec…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/24 10:35 PM
1	Many women don't realize that emotions are not reality. They actually are gendered. Studies into phobias and neuroticism (non-judgementally, as in the context of the Big Five personality traits) do show that women predominantly are more afflicted by fears such as phobias as well as score more highly on the neuroticism scale. Mental illnesses of most kinds also seem to disproportionately affect women, whereas addiction disorders disproportionately affect men. Almost everything in our lives is gendered, because it does affect so many dimensions of how …	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/24 10:26 PM
2	Many women don't realize that emotions are not reality. I'm sure there are fake-it-til-you-make-it people out there who think that being stoic means ignoring your emotions. But the tradition of stoicism is actually the awareness of your feelings and the integration of your emotions into your self, and being able to act in spite of how you feel. As the old adage goes, courage is not the absence of fear but the willingness to act in spite of it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/24 10:24 PM
1	Many women don't realize that emotions are not reality. I do think self reflection itself is a valuable skill, but the basic socialization that men are given is that self reflection isn't even necessary in order for them not to reify their emotions. The lack of validation they receive for their emotions already beats this into them as a natural state of affairs -- that reality exists outside of how they feel about it, and that as a man you have to act on reality and not on your feelings. There are good and bad about this, especially if it's out of ba…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/24 10:22 PM
1	Many women don't realize that emotions are not reality. I think that's actually an insightful perspective, that women view this as a zero sum game. I agree with this assessment, because women generally do not produce the resources that would make it a non-zero sum game whereas men do produce the resources, so to a woman it makes a lot of sense as to why they would view it as a closed system and see themselves as oppressed, whereas men see expansion as the natural state of affairs.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/24 10:16 PM
1	Many women don't realize that emotions are not reality. I think most people fundamentally understand the observation of what is meant when the word patriarchy is used. But aside from the inflammatory nature of the term, the true point of contention is what feminists think caused the observable differences between men and women, as well as what it means we must do moving forward. The first incorrect feminist conclusion is that the patriarchy is designed from top-down and is a bad system, when in fact it is an unavoidable consequence emergent due to bi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/24 10:04 PM
1	Many women don't realize that emotions are not reality. All feelings are grounded in reality in some way, like shadows on the wall. The problem is when you mistake the shadows on the wall for the reality that is casting those shadows. So by all means we should use the information from the shadows, but the detachment that we need to engage with the world on a higher level is realizing that the shadows are representations of reality, and are not by themselves reality.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/24 08:31 PM
1	Many women don't realize that emotions are not reality. I think I would agree with this. The base of your behavior is feelings, but if you want to live life making decisions on a higher level, you have to begin climbing those levels of thinking out of just base feelings. But definitely maintaining connection with how you feel is important, it just can't be the one thing that determines reality and how you make your choices.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/24 08:29 PM
1	Many women don't realize that emotions are not reality. At a certain point, your internal intuitions do begin to match reality more and more as you learn. But that detachment that allows you to maintain the central dogma that reality is what shapes you is important to keep in mind, or else you might start pedestalizing your feelings more than they deserve.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/24 08:27 PM
1	Many women don't realize that emotions are not reality. This was in my mind as I considered the topic.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/24 08:25 PM
1	Many women don't realize that emotions are not reality. People really do need a narrative in order to live their lives, it's just a quirk of humanity. But if our goal is useful accurate beliefs, then we need the ability to introspect on where the beliefs arise rather than creating a narrative to make the emotions more comfortable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/24 08:24 PM
1	Many women don't realize that emotions are not reality. It's an important skill to constantly be checking yourself for self-deception. No one is easier for us to lie to than ourselves, because we know so intimately which lies we want to believe, and so paradoxically we make ourselves the best liars towards ourselves. Whenever you feel strong emotion about any belief is prime time to really introspect.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/24 08:21 PM
1	Many women don't realize that emotions are not reality. Yes, it's actually very important to have a base of understanding of your emotions as a man, because at the end of the day every decision we make is somehow derived from feelings, since it forms the base of the pyramid for our existence. It's this understanding that actually lets you bring out your true stoicism, which fundamentally is detachment of your behavior from your emotions. A lot of situations in life call for you to act contrary to what your emotions tell you to do, and one of the bigg…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/24 08:18 PM
0	Many women don't realize that emotions are not reality. Yes, certainly men can be held by their emotions too, and can also act emotionally. But the central point here is that men do not reify emotions into being reality. For example -- and I'm not saying every man or every woman does this, but in general -- If a man cheats on his wife, and she gets angry, he understands that the problem is that he cheated. If a woman cheats on her husband, and he gets angry, she thinks that the problem is his anger. That's why when women are caught doing something wr…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/24 08:16 PM
3	When it comes to dating, what's the worst thing about women? It's because these women are specifically filtering for men who will put up with this behavior. They want a man who, for whatever reason, is willing to tolerate spending that amount of money on her even on a first date.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/24 04:41 AM
2	A Question for men. What are the red flags in a relationship that would prevent you from ever proposing marriage. It's really telling how a woman will spend money that isn't hers, bcaause that's how she will spend your assets when you do get married.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/24 08:46 PM
1	What if men were allowed to choose between a bear and a woman in a forest? Statistics show women more frequently assault men than bears - why hasn’t anyone pointed this out yet? Why does the “man = bad” paradigm fit so well in our society? The only reason why this is allowed to get traction is because it is currently politically acceptable to disparage men. Ask instead would you rather run into a Muslim or a bear and people will be very upset about the question even being asked.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/24 08:43 PM
2	What if men were allowed to choose between a bear and a woman in a forest? Statistics show women more frequently assault men than bears - why hasn’t anyone pointed this out yet? Why does the “man = bad” paradigm fit so well in our society? Statistically women kill more women than bears. Would you rather encounter a bear than a woman in the forest too?	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/24 08:38 PM
1	The brouhaha over the bear is not about misandry or risk. It’s about who is allowed to criticize male behavior or have a negative reaction to it (hint: not women) And it's your inability to handle statistics that tells me you probably chose bear too. The reason for the statistics of higher likelihood of accidents from short trips is due to trip length being a skewed distribution towards shorter trips. The majority of my time spent in a car is commuting to and from work, during which I wear my seatbelt. This is the same reason why women fail to understand how dangerous a bear is, because the likelihood of encountering men versus encountering a bear is skew…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/24 11:14 AM
1	I want to talk about crazy mistress and manstress You realize that I'm not actually talking about rain right? It's like a Physics professor saying, "Assume a frictionless surface." and you're arguing with him by saying, "There's no such thing as a frictionless surface!" If it helps, I can change the example: If my pet is a Husky, then my pet is a dog => If my pet is not a dog, then my pet is not a Husky. These two statements must either both be true or both be false. There is no universe where one statement can be true and the other statement b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/24 10:03 AM
5	Do women decide what masculinity is? His toxic masculinity is preventing him from recognizing the inherent oppression of all women by the ruling class of the patriarchy, the penis-wielders. The dong-danglers uses their unearned power to victimize women, who have no agency to be responsible for their own decisions because she is equal to dick-havers and are capable of doing anything that johnson-jockeys can do, but also simultaneously unable to take responsibility for anything that happens in her life because cock-possessors are so …	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/24 09:57 AM
0	I want to talk about crazy mistress and manstress The law of contrapositives: If P => Q is true then notQ => notP must also be true. For example, "If it rains, I will be wet." => "I am not wet, therefore it did not rain." If the first sentence is true, the second sentence MUST be true. This is deductive logic. Her claim was "Do not listen to men who have never touched a girl's vagina in their lives about cheating/exercising options". The contrapositive is "Listen to men who have touched a girl's vagina about cheating/exercising options." Andrew…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/24 09:38 AM
2	Why do many men say that older women or single moms are less desirable for dating? Men are not worse relative with age in the same way women are. The curve for women go something like peak at 18-22, then fall off continuously afterwards, with large drops at 30 and 40, but can be mitigated by maintaining weight and skin care, but almost never are women able to become more attractive to more men as she ages unless she started from a deficit. Men peak at something like 25-30, but their drop off depends on whether they leverage their time properly as they age to gain skills, educa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/24 07:07 AM
3	The brouhaha over the bear is not about misandry or risk. It’s about who is allowed to criticize male behavior or have a negative reaction to it (hint: not women) You only think it's victim blaming because you are designating women as eternal victims, who are unshackled from the consequences of their own choices and actions. If you make a decision, and you suffer consequences, that is not victimhood -- that is agency.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/24 06:48 AM
5	The brouhaha over the bear is not about misandry or risk. It’s about who is allowed to criticize male behavior or have a negative reaction to it (hint: not women) When conversations pop up about women not taking responsibility, or not being accountable, this is what we are talking about. When men feel lonely, the expectation is for men to take actionable steps to identify the problem, improve themselves, and resolve the issue. When men feel rejected, the expectation is for men to work on their physique, improve their career aspects, become the partner that would be desired by the type of person that they want to date. If a man feels lonely, or rejected, a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/24 06:46 AM
0	I want to talk about crazy mistress and manstress No, we're expecting you to use English words like a grown-up and actually address the point being made. Your claim: People who have never touched a girl's vagina should not be listened to about men cheating and exercising options. Therefore contrapositive: People who have touched a girl's vagina should be listened to about this topic. My counter claim: Andrew Tate has touched a lot of girls' vaginas, do you want us to listen to Andrew Tate about how to treat women or do you want to admit you wer…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/24 06:15 AM
3	The brouhaha over the bear is not about misandry or risk. It’s about who is allowed to criticize male behavior or have a negative reaction to it (hint: not women) I drive without my seatbelt if it's a short trip. How often do you take responsibility for the claims you want to make by using your big girl words instead of doing drive-bys with snarky questions?	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/24 06:11 AM
1	What is a common piece of dating advice that is worthless in your experience? The kind of people who need this advice are precisely the people who will not understand the implicit nuance you are injecting into "Be yourself", because if they were able to understand that subtext then they wouldn't need the advice about being themselves in the first place.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/24 06:08 AM
1	What is a common piece of dating advice that is worthless in your experience? Then the message is very badly tailored for its target audience. Because the people who need this kind of advice are precisely the kind of person for whom all of the nuance you are assuming comes with the phrase "Be yourself" are simply not going to make sense for.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/24 06:06 AM
1	I want to talk about crazy mistress and manstress This is such a bad faith argument. You would rather men listen to Andrew Tate, who has clearly fucked his way through women? Because he will tell you the exact same things about men cheating and exercising options.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/24 08:57 PM
8	The brouhaha over the bear is not about misandry or risk. It’s about who is allowed to criticize male behavior or have a negative reaction to it (hint: not women) The most dangerous thing to your health when you walk out of your door are automobiles. Do you also scream running away from cars the same way you would a bear because cars statistically have the highest chances of killing you? No, because this was all about women's emotions to begin with. No one is logically answering the question when they say bear, it's an entirely emotional answer. If you went hiking and you text your friend "I ran into a man". They'd ask, "Oh, like do you know him or someth…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/24 08:55 PM
12	The brouhaha over the bear is not about misandry or risk. It’s about who is allowed to criticize male behavior or have a negative reaction to it (hint: not women) https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Kafkatrap If you think someone arguing against your point somehow proves your point, you need to take a good hard look at what your position really is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/24 08:50 PM
2	What is a common piece of dating advice that is worthless in your experience? But that is you being yourself. The real question is, why are you the kind of person who chooses to laugh at jokes you don't find funny? Is that the kind of personality you want to project? Is that an attractive trait to have? That is a more helpful way to look at it than thinking you aren't "being yourself" when in fact there is a LOT of information to be gained by understanding why being yourself makes you behave inauthentically.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/24 08:07 PM
2	Why do many men say that older women or single moms are less desirable for dating? We're talking about relativity here -- Your friend who is 34 and a single mother has less options compared to when she was 24 and had no children. You have to tare the scale before you discuss the effects of age and children. Women by default have more options just by existing as women, but if you want to discuss the effects of age and children then compare them with age and children versus without age and children.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/24 12:13 PM
3	This sub is all negativity and debate. Post what you admire, appreciate, and enjoy about the opposite sex. You know when you and your girl friends complain about "that asshole", or "men are trash", or "are we all dating the same guy"? Yeah, that's literally because they're running into men with the same red pill beliefs, failing to spot it, and getting burned. But to their credit, a lot of men have red pill beliefs that they just never say out loud to women. And so women keep saying they can spot people who are fake, but the moment some guy comes along and gives them the spark they tell their girl fr…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/24 12:03 PM
0	This sub is all negativity and debate. Post what you admire, appreciate, and enjoy about the opposite sex. Behind closed doors, most men will admit to believing at least one "red pill bs" belief. Not because he's misogynistic or anything, but just because red pill didn't suddenly materialize out of thin air -- almost all of it is based on actual lived experiences of men; experiences that have become marginalized into being unspeakable truths.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/24 12:00 PM
1	This sub is all negativity and debate. Post what you admire, appreciate, and enjoy about the opposite sex. If you know enough men in your life, it's usually pretty clear that men are way more interested in things, where women tend to be way more interested in people. This interest often translates into what motivates their passions and where they end up making progress.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/24 11:56 AM
–	Why should I date a much older man vs a man closer to my age? You can date whoever you want. Just make sure you are clear on what the things are that you want in a potential partner. People end up with people who are older or younger because the things that they value in a partner skew towards people who are older (financial stability, emotional maturity, confidence, etc.) or people who are younger (playfulness, carefree dating, beauty, etc.)	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/24 11:38 AM
10	What is a common piece of dating advice that is worthless in your experience? So for that, I would probably say, "Show the most attractive version of yourself." That would make more sense than "Just be yourself."	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/24 11:23 AM
1	being a bear in the woods The real red pill truth is this -- Literally all of the bullshit messaging you are getting is a shit test. And don't argue about what is bullshit and what isn't, you know in your heart of hearts when it's 100% A5 grade Wagyu Bullshit, just like this bear vs man argument is. Nature blessed you with a brain capable of logic, you know as well as the rest of us that the argument for choosing bear makes no sense. The whole point of the meaningless conversation around this meandering topic of bear vs …	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/24 09:14 AM
10	What is a common piece of dating advice that is worthless in your experience? It's impossible to not be yourself. Try it, what do you do when you are not being yourself? Did you jump up and yell something that you wouldn't normally yell? Then who made the choice to jump and who made the choice of what to yell? You did -- You decided to do that yourself.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/24 09:08 AM
–	CMV: choosing the bear has been detrimental to our cause. They don't enjoy it, but it is an effective power grab to play the victim because our society incentivizes victimhood.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/24 04:02 AM
–	Why do women here try to assert that any man expressing frustration with dating must be undesirable or needs to improve in some way, and that they are some small fringe of the population? It's really unfortunate because the genders get judged based on completely different things. To be a boss you have to be assertive, firm, and proactive -- but these are exactly the things that we judge women negatively for. So the gendered social role is put into conflict with the professional work role, because women were meant to work communally, not hierarchically like men do. When you see a woman with no softness, you judge her as lesser as a woman. But when you see a boss who is soft, you j…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/24 07:58 PM
–	Why do women here try to assert that any man expressing frustration with dating must be undesirable or needs to improve in some way, and that they are some small fringe of the population? [ Removed by Reddit ]	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/24 07:51 PM
–	Why do women here try to assert that any man expressing frustration with dating must be undesirable or needs to improve in some way, and that they are some small fringe of the population? Thanks for the genuine response. I think this is a big part of why red pill is important -- it tells men and women what things to actually improve on. Stop telling men they need to be nicer, be more in touch with their feelings, be more vulnerable, treat women like they're men, etc. And stop telling women they need to play hard to get, raise their standards, be a bossbabe, and "if he wanted to he would". This is all trash advice. Women generally want men who are more tall, strong, rich, smart, s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/24 07:49 PM
3	Q4W: Should teachers face disciplinary action for having adult content on OF? A lot... If you are a licensed psychiatrist and you start talking about therapy online without establishing a patient-provider relationship with your audience, you can lose your license. If you are a licensed medical doctor and you start dispensing medical advice online without establishing a patient-provider relationship with your audience, you can lose your license. So if I start a YouTube channel and start telling people to fight Covid with bleach injections, I'm just a nutcase. But if I have…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/24 07:29 PM
9	How do women maintain mental consistency dating men while believing in "the bear pill"? "Would you rather be trapped in a forest with a bear, or with a man who would still love you if you turned into a worm?"	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/24 12:56 PM
1	Very few if any men fit this weird definition women rattle off of “thinking women owe them sex” This is the problem -- You are ONLY encountering the men that are going to be meeting you in a romantic or courting context, which means you've already stratified for a specific population of men. This population is absolutely not representative of most men because it's not a fair sample of the population. There are men who exist beyond the subset of those who have built the confidence to approach you, or who have built themselves up enough to attract you to try to get his attention. The only ps…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/24 10:55 AM
13	Very few if any men fit this weird definition women rattle off of “thinking women owe them sex” It's becoming impossible to express any negative emotion as a man other than approved ones, like sadness and vulnerability. If you express frustration, anger, injustice, resentment, etc. you are IMMEDIATELY mocked or shamed for what you are sharing. People will interpret you opening up in the worst light possible, make all sorts of assumptions about what you mean by what you said, and jump to conclusions about what they think you think the solution is. If a man says "Most women date taller men, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/24 10:47 AM
2	Women are as likely, or more likely, to be physically aggressive in relationships compared to men I'm waiting for all the feminists on PPD to jump on this comment and defend men for once as feminist equality would require, but I'm expecting crickets since feminism was never really about equality.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/24 10:40 AM
2	Would you rather be stuck on a desert island with a man or a woman? You're trying to say one thing but your actual words clearly tell another story: Like what specific heavy lifting do you think you’ll be doing all day on an island trying to survive? Strength is an asset sure, but on a deserted island, none of these usually going to require the high strength of 2 adult men. Male strength and speed will absolutely be an asset, yes. I’m just not convinced the extra strength of a second man offsets the pair’s need for additional calories in an island environment. Y…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/24 07:26 AM
3	Would you rather be stuck on a desert island with a man or a woman? Do you really think strength and power is irrelevant when you are surviving in the wild? Strength and power will determine whether you can climb up a tree to get fruit, whether you have the speed to run away from predators, whether you can chase down prey, whether you can traverse difficult terrain, whether you can cut and strip trees for building, etc. It's probably the most important part of surviving on an island, next to having general survival knowledge and preferably, localized knowledge a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/05/24 10:05 AM
8	Would you rather be stuck on a desert island with a man or a woman? The problem with surviving on fewer calories is the reason why -- Women cannot generate the strength and power that men do, and these are the things that you want in a survival scenario. So a person that consumes more calories and can turn that energy into useful work for building shelter, exploring, finding clean water, and hunting for food is going to be the person who survives, whereas the woman who burns less calories but also cannot do as much of the physical work that keeps you alive is go…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/05/24 07:04 AM
2	Would you rather be stuck on a desert island with a man or a woman? If you are considering the danger from your island partner then what you are looking for is the level of sociopathy, which men do have higher levels of than women. So yes, if we are purely talking about the danger coming from the person you are with, rather than the danger of being on a deserted island, then a man would be more dangerous.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/05/24 07:00 AM
15	Would you rather be stuck on a desert island with a man or a woman? In a 2-person team surviving on a deserted island, the upsides of woman have less chance to shine, which is that they are better at maintaining larger group social harmony, they are more detail-oriented, they are more adept at caretaking, etc. If you're looking towards short-term survival of an emergency situation, men are going to have the physical strength, resistance to discomfort, and less neuroticism for getting out of the situation alive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/24 05:46 PM
3	Teenage girl watching red pill content. I don't like this new wave of redpill-pretending grifters like Pearl. It's so obvious that they found the formula for getting views by shitting on women, when redpill originally had nothing to do with shitting on women. It was a simple question of, do you want to see how male-female relations actually worked? There is no attempt to change the other gender, or incite hate over YouTube. It was a way to improve your own understanding so that you have more influence over the relationships in your li…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/04/24 06:10 AM
2	Do men and society even need women (besides reproduction)? You're probably right, the men who designed and built the reactors probably learned from past mistakes and have now built better ones. I guess we can look into the collapse of all the other intrastructures and services maintained by men instead, like the collapse of water treatment plants, sewage systems, aviation, trucking, shipping, oil rigs, logging camps, firefighter and all other emergency services, etc. I'm pretty sure the loss of those industries will far outweigh the damages caused by th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/24 07:33 AM
1	Do men and society even need women (besides reproduction)? You think working on an offshore oil rig for months at a time is exciting? Or treating raw sewage water? Or driving a truck for thousands of miles? Or diving under the ocean to weld and repair Internet cables? Or climbing up power lines to fix them? You think the majority of jobs with 99% male demographics are the exciting ones?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/24 02:09 AM
1	Do men and society even need women (besides reproduction)? The health care system DID collapse in many places during Covid. And guess what, we're still here typing on reddit and there's no apocalypse. Would you like to hear how many people will die if the nuclear power system collapsed instead?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/24 02:01 AM
1	How well do women actually handle sexual rejection. If they can handle it better than men what are the reasons and what can men learn from that? This is the point of learning to approach, so that you DO know when those chances might be; it's literally the next time you talk to someone.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/24 01:51 AM
3	RPers who refuse to simply Go Their Own Way, why? It literally doesn't matter what the comparison is, it's all still true. Hunger, thirst, pain, heat, sadness, disappointment, shame, guilt, you feel all of these things because it's informing you of what you can do, in reality, about it. If you feel guilt, you can apologize. If you feel sad, you can grieve. If you feel warm, you can find shade. These feelings and emotions are your body's way of telling you to take action, not for you to challenge for being dumb like marmotjacket was stating.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/24 10:10 PM
2	RPers who refuse to simply Go Their Own Way, why? This is basically true of almost all mentalities. Feelings and emotions exist to help us navigate the world. If your hand feels pain because there is a splinter, you deal with it by removing the splinter. If you feel cold because the wind is blowing, you deal with it by putting on a jacket. You don't wax poetic about how to challenge your feelings, you accept your feelings for what they are and you make actionable decisions about the information they are giving you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/24 09:43 PM
3	RPers who refuse to simply Go Their Own Way, why? If you don't eat, you can meditate to reduce the feeling of hunger. But eventually you have to receive external nourishment or else you will die of starvation. Not every problem of feelings is solved by internal work. Society exists because humans have needs that are fulfilled by having it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/24 09:36 AM
2	The Big Difference of Aging between Men vs Women is... By top 15%, I mean that you only want the 15% of women you find attractive right now, and that will always be the case. Your natural biological attraction is no less picky and no more moral or fair. You only want to fuck a small percentage of women, and you don’t give a shit about the majority. What percentage of women have been underweight at some point in their lives? 100%. What percentage of women have been between the ages of 18-30 at some point in their lives? 100%. What percentage of men h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/24 11:14 AM
7	The Big Difference of Aging between Men vs Women is... What do you mean by "top 15%"? Every woman ever born was at some point non-overweight, and every woman ever born was at some point between the ages of 18 to 30 unless they die young. If the only critera for being a top woman is "existing for 18 years" and "don't eat so much food", then that's a pretty easy deal. Compare this to what makes men the "top 15%" -- Some combination of physical fitness, mental competence, emotional strength, social connectedness, and financial stability. Most men will …	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/24 10:55 AM
1	Is FTM transitions a good example of male loneliness comparative to female loneliness? Okay, sure? I have personally never used the phrase cat lady or even heard it in real life. I don't know how this relates at all to my original point that men are expected to solve their own problems, but women are expected to have problems solved for them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/24 08:56 AM
1	Is FTM transitions a good example of male loneliness comparative to female loneliness? Really? You read my post, and this is literally all you have to say?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/04/24 09:17 AM
3	Is FTM transitions a good example of male loneliness comparative to female loneliness? You mean women who didn't start a family and use pets as surrogate children? They're not necessarily lonely, just that they're using an alternative outlet for their need to caretake something. And I don't know if people en masse laugh at it. Maybe fear, or pity, or incredulity, but rarely is humor the effect of seeing a woman with cats, it's not very funny after all. It's in fact pretty easy for people to empathize with childless women, especially if it's due to factors outside of her control. B…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/04/24 09:17 AM
4	"The Ick" is just another way of saying "a turn-off" The one that throws me off is "talking to". Like, "there's this girl I'm talking to", and the implication is that you guys are basically sexting back and forth and possibly even fucking each other, which is like no other kind of talking we've had before. I guess normal conversations were too tame for the current generation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/24 06:02 PM
–	The key to success with women. But wait, you ain't seen nothin' yet. Raised lettering, pale nimbus, white.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/24 10:30 AM
–	The key to success with women. Nice. Jesus. That is really super; how'd a nitwit like you get so tasteful.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/24 10:15 AM
–	The key to success with women. Good coloring. That's Bone. And the lettering is something called Silian Rail.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/24 09:53 AM
0	Late stage feminism leads to population collapse As long as American geopolitical interests are aligned with the existence of a Jewish state in the Middle East, Israel will continue to exist. That, or when the American empire topples.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/24 09:49 AM
4	We talk about women selecting toxic men a lot, but we hardly seem to glance at the thought of men actively selecting toxic women I can see you have a difficult set of responsibilities ahead of you. I cannot help you carry the weight, but if I may be so conceited to offer this advice -- Take care of your emotions first of all, so you can help your children contextualize their emotions and prevent them from turning traumatic. Having autism and ADHD greatly increases the chances of negative emotional experiences turning into trauma because processing never happens. The parents are too burned out having to take care of neurod…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/24 09:44 AM
3	Questioning some of the red pill's claims. Obviously just having tattoos doesn't immediately increase your number of sexual partners, and they can be good wives or mothers but I would say it might correlate negatively, since people with (a lot of) tattoos generally have more unresolved personal issues. I do recall that there was a study saying something to the effect of, people with tattoos find other people with tattoos more attractive, people without tattoos themselves however do not. I would say the pair bonding thing is probably gene…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/24 09:35 AM
2	We talk about women selecting toxic men a lot, but we hardly seem to glance at the thought of men actively selecting toxic women Now that you both have found the strength to break the cycle for yourselves, I hope you also find it to break the cycle for the next generation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/24 09:20 AM
10	Is FTM transitions a good example of male loneliness comparative to female loneliness? That's a long sentence to just say, "I concede."	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/24 07:39 AM
11	Is FTM transitions a good example of male loneliness comparative to female loneliness? Are you sure? Are you sure there are absolutely zero solutions you can think of for this one problem? Are you really that lacking in imagination when it's a problem affecting primarily men? When women have issues with their physical appearance, we have fat acceptance movements, Barbies changing their dolls' proportions, body positivity on social media, cultural shifts around conversations of body hair and overweight mannequins in department stores. When women have issues with entering university…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/24 07:18 AM
20	Is FTM transitions a good example of male loneliness comparative to female loneliness? A really problematic part of this kind of discourse online, especially from feminists, is that when women have a problem, we talk about what men need to do and what society needs to do to fix the problem. When men have a problem, the first instinct is to find a way how we can deflect it back onto what men need to do to fix it so that women don't have to do anything and society doesn't have to do anything. The ISSUE is that men are struggling, what you are trying to deflect with is that you THINK…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/24 10:25 PM
–	Women can't have agency while also being perpetual victims I feel really conflicted about a lot of these things nowadays. On the one hand, of course we want to protect people from harm. But what used to happen on some level was that we let children make mistakes that they can learn from. From increasingly, I feel like we as a modern society don't allow that any more. Not even in a permissive way, but in a stakes-raising way. You can get into a bad relationship, and maybe it doesn't go well and you both move on. But now every relationship you get into ha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/24 06:58 AM
–	Why do women get turned off if a guy is living with parents even though they live with parents too? Yeah, I think that most of dating are in fact double standards. Beautiful women are not necessarily going to want to date beautiful men. Muscular men are not necessarily going to want to date muscular women. Rich men definitely don't need to date rich women. And women with domestic skills aren't going to date domestic men. It's about finding the yin to your yang, and so at least on that level I think it's sensible to have sexist double standards, as long as we aren't operating on a lie of 1-to-1…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/24 06:47 AM
–	Women can't have agency while also being perpetual victims On some level, it makes sense to have our voting population be limited to those who have gained enough knowledge of the world to make an informed decision. But I think our current reality is that we need more younger people interested in the political process, and fewer older people who are fine with leaving chaos in their wake with their political choices because they won't have to deal with the consequences (i.e. harmful environmental policies). We're really losing sight of the philosophy of, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/24 06:44 AM
–	Women can't have agency while also being perpetual victims It's literally in the OP -- A common narrative here is that women under 25 do not have fully developed brains, and so men who date women under the age of 25 are predators because the women are victims to this mental underdevelopment and they are being taken advantage of. But if we accept this argument of underdeveloped brains then women should not be allowed to vote, drive, smoke, drink, or do sex work until 25 -- which is clearly absurd. But you can't have it both ways, for women to escape the …	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/24 06:40 AM
–	Women can't have agency while also being perpetual victims There are plenty of arguments on here that frame men dating younger women as the woman being a victim to a predatory man because the woman's brain isn't fully developed until she is 25. I'm challenging this narrative because if the woman is a victim here due to her mental underdevelopment, then this lack of mental agency requires that she also lose the privileges that come with it, meaning she cannot drive, vote, smoke, drink, or do sex work until she is 25 -- which is ad absurdum.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/24 06:36 AM
1	How many men who feel like women reject “nice guys” would proudly treat their girlfriends and wives like princesses and simp for them? I don't even know what to tell you. You're basically over here trying to convince me the world is flat. Men BY FAR treat their equals much better than women. Some of the strongest human bonds on earth are from soldiers that served together, i.e. men that endure physical trials shoulder by shoulder as equals. Men do not tear each other down the way women do. This is just a skit, but it's basically how female friendships look to me versus male friendships: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKbDpp84d…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/24 06:28 AM
–	Women can't have agency while also being perpetual victims So because a human life requires resources, people are allowed to call women sluts if they wear revealing clothing? You're going to have walk me through the funhouse mirror logic on that one. Sure, can we agree on the point I made first, so we can walk through it together? And yet it is virtually always women who are shamed for their clothing choices. When I worked in an office, I wore a button up with rolled up sleeves almost every day, and yet I was never told to cover up my forearms even thou…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/24 06:06 AM
1	How many men who feel like women reject “nice guys” would proudly treat their girlfriends and wives like princesses and simp for them? An ugly woman with a busted face who thinks she is a 10 will look at an ugly man with a busted face and think he is a 10. And the sun rises in the west and sets to the east.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/24 05:16 AM
–	Women can't have agency while also being perpetual victims You can have agency as a rich politician, and if someone starts beating you up in the streets, you are still a victim of violence. You can gain agency over future altercations by gaining physical agency over violence -- learning self-defense, carrying a weapon, having bodyguards, and so on. But your loss of agency due to your inability to do anything about being beat up makes you a victim of that specific circumstance. Being a victim isn't going to be some catch-all definition of your identity, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/24 12:41 AM
0	Direct Approach: “can I sit down here?” You can talk to her about the weather while stuttering, it's not going to change the outcome just because you made a reasonable choice about what you're talking to her about.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/24 12:29 AM
–	If a large amount of "dating age" males and females were gender-swapped (including brains and sexual orientation) for a year, how would they do and what would they learn? This is a literal word salad, can you construct a coherent sentence?	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/24 12:28 AM
–	Women can't have agency while also being perpetual victims I don't know who told you otherwise, but yes, you literally existing IS a weight on other people. Your family has to raise you, you eat food that a farmer has to grow, you consume resources that other people need to generate, you take up space and other people have to acknowledge the reality that you exist. If you are taking the bus that is one less seat for someone else, if you are in school that is one more student for the teacher, you cannot exist independently of the rest of your community. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/24 11:12 PM
–	Women can't have agency while also being perpetual victims Okay, sure then. Is it ethical to have women who cannot ethically decide who they should date, decide who should run the country?	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/24 11:07 PM
0	How many men who feel like women reject “nice guys” would proudly treat their girlfriends and wives like princesses and simp for them? Men are definitely more honest in this regard than women, especially to themselves. Men know what they want, and men know when they are not what other people want. Ugly men know they are ugly -- no guy with a busted face walking around like he's the shit, saying he's hotter than the sun. Ugly women? They will lie to you, they will lie to themselves, they will lie to each other about how attractive they are.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/24 11:03 PM
1	Has anyone noticed that pick-me women are always single? Why is that? If you mean "pick-me" as in "woman who cares about men and the issues they face", then Dadvocate is pretty clearly married.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/24 11:12 AM
2	If a large amount of "dating age" males and females were gender-swapped (including brains and sexual orientation) for a year, how would they do and what would they learn? When it stops being a bogeyman designed to deflect female accountability. In the same way we can't fight star signs or crystal energy, "fight against the patriarchy" doesn't even make sense as a sentence.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/24 11:10 AM
-5	How many men who feel like women reject “nice guys” would proudly treat their girlfriends and wives like princesses and simp for them? That's the difference -- A man still WANTS the submissive wife, he isn't lying to himself. But a woman who wants a simp, IS LYING TO HERSELF. She will be utterly disgusted by any man willing to treat her like a princess.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/24 08:54 AM
4	Women can't have agency while also being perpetual victims No, you don't get to wiggle out of this one with fake rhetoric. Do you want accountability AND agency, or do you want neither accountability NOR agency? You cannot enjoy the protections of being a child while protesting that you are being treated like a child. If you have the agency to choose, then you take responsibility for the consequences of your choices -- you don't get to then cry to mom and dad about being a victim... of your own choices.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/24 08:42 AM
1	Women can't have agency while also being perpetual victims Being a victim is defined as loss of agency. If you had the choice, you can't choose to be a victim, because then you wouldn't be a victim.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/24 08:40 AM
4	Women can't have agency while also being perpetual victims If you are going to make this argument for women to get less adult accountability because they are younger than 25, then women need to lose their adult privileges as well. No driving, voting, drinking, or university until they are older than 25 because they are not fully mature yet and not ready to handle the physical, political, biological, or financial responsibilities of these actions if they aren't even old enough to decide who they can date until they are 25.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/24 08:39 AM
7	Women can't have agency while also being perpetual victims Yeah, see, when you actively choose to dress and present yourself in a certain way, in public, TOWARDS OTHER PEOPLE, that is actually a behavior that people will judge you for. If a man is wearing a bikini with his balls hanging out, he would be looked at as a creep.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/24 08:33 AM
1	Women can't have agency while also being perpetual victims I'm pretty sure you have to have sex with others in order to be called a slut. People who have sex with themselves are not called sluts. In fact, who would even know if you are masturbating privately?	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/24 08:32 AM
2	Women can't have agency while also being perpetual victims I knew I recognized this "so what you're saying is" rhetoric from somewhere.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/24 08:26 AM
2	Women can't have agency while also being perpetual victims The argument is "if women shouldn't get into an age gap relationship until their brains are fully developed until they are 25, why are they allowed to vote for who should become the most powerful man in the country at 18? Or be allowed to operate a motor vehicle? Or even be allowed to do OnlyFans?"	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/24 08:21 AM
14	Women can't have agency while also being perpetual victims Being a victim necessarily requires that you have no agency. If you had agency, you would just choose otherwise, but you cannot, that's literally the definition of being victimized. You can't have a choice and choose to be a victim, or else that wouldn't be genuine victimhood.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/24 08:18 AM
13	There are a lot more certain attractive qualities a man must have compared to a woman in order to have a healthy and fulfilling relationship. No, the only reason men don't look for women with more desirable qualities is because there simply is not that much of a supply of them. Most women are just people in the middle of the bell curve, not collectors of desirable qualities -- just average people. It literally makes no sense to tell men they should adopt the female dating strategy of shooting for only the top 10%.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/24 08:14 AM
-2	Direct Approach: “can I sit down here?” This is clearly not true. You can be 9/10 face and physique, but if you sit down you start stuttering your words and drool comes down the sides of your mouth, she is going to leave. How you behave during the conversation is itself part of how attractive she will find you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/24 08:05 AM
14	Why do women get turned off if a guy is living with parents even though they live with parents too? There are no logistical problems here; staying a night at a hotel a couple times a week is cheaper than paying thousands of dollars in rent per month. And also, women do not change their emotional state towards you because of "logistics"; she is feeling disgust because of sexist double standards that she is applying judgementally, simple as.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/24 06:12 AM
2	Splitting the bill is not about money, it is about balance of interest Being a 50/50 parent doesn't benefit your children, being a 100% father and a 100% mother benefits your children. This means you're not going to be split down the middle for everything. Dad might be out of the house more often at work, mom might be better at listening to the child's problems, dad might be more proactive with hanging out with the child playing sports, mom might be more involved with the progress of their schooling, etc. Same with the relationship itself, because if you artificial…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 11:25 AM
3	Red Pill Men Make Blue Pill Arguments When Their Assumptions Are Questioned Older men aren't just attractive for being older. The observation is that the things that women are attracted to take time to build up: Financial stability, physical fitness, competence, charisma, social mastery, and emotional stoicism. We can certainly be born blessed with a headstart in a lot of these -- Rich parents, good genetics, having mentors, stable childhood, healthy family dynamics, etc. But almost everyone is born with a deficit of some combination of these, and the decades that it ta…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 09:28 AM
10	Splitting the bill is not about money, it is about balance of interest Except all of the 50/50s that women fight for are the ones that only benefit women. Anything that affect men either get a "That's on him to do better,", or "It's men who have a responsibility to help other men on this.", or at best "We agree that it's an issue, but we can't do anything to help him." But if a woman has a problem, it's usually someone ELSE that has to change, either his man has to do better, or the people around her has to change, or literally society has to bend its existing rule…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/24 11:31 PM
3	Study shows men view their ex partners much more fondly than women do, matches up with my experience. What are your thoughts? Context is really important when you use generalized language like that. When you say "you", are you referring to men in general? Red pill people in general? The men that you have conversations with in general? The men you interact with in your life in general? The tone of your sentence gave off a far more accusatory vibe than just a "general statement". And the second part of the question is, how would you like men to share their perspectives and address their issues with body count without mak…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/24 11:09 PM
8	Study shows men view their ex partners much more fondly than women do, matches up with my experience. What are your thoughts? I don't think he's done anything of the sort.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/24 10:52 PM
1	Why do progressives/feminists rarely object to grooming standards for men? I think men do care, but there are preferences for both sides, with more landing on the side of preferring shaved.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/24 09:18 PM
1	Can you be red pill and not bash women Modern feminism is directly worse for men than red pill is, and as an extension indirectly worse for women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/24 02:45 AM
2	Can you be red pill and not bash women Just like by its nature feminism will foster negative feelings for men, and you have to decide whether you want to be reasonable or not.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/24 10:32 PM
1	Why are women so aggressively worried about being murdered by men? Men get murdered by men way more than women get murdered by men; you don't see every man out in the streets anxious at the thought of being murdered daily. Women's neurotic fear of men isn't based in statistics from reality, it's based on emotions in their heads. Women feel weak and do not have the confidence to handle themselves, whereas men are optimistically unrealistic; men will think they can hold their own in a fight even if they've never even fought before.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/24 03:20 PM
3	Do men not care about having female friends? Women don't all think the same, but they sure do rhyme with each other a whole lot. Men recognize the pattern in the rhymes, and that's what we make statements on.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/24 03:13 PM
2	If men want more casual sex from women why do you support/vote for policies that will discourage this You can be against having a hyper-capitalist society where the top 1% owns most of the wealth, while still going to work to collect a paycheck, without being a hypocrite. Just like how you can be against the everything-goes nature of modern day sexual relations, but if the only way people are getting intimacy is by playing the game, then you play the game.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/24 03:11 PM
–	I feel like women cannot understand the male experience I'd call her Milly.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/02/24 12:28 PM
0	What is the actual reason why men get shamed for having preferences? No, it's not, because women historically cannot hunt for their own food. So she needs a guy to do it while she's pregnant and caring for children, but guys won't provision you food to feed to someone else's children, so women needed to make sure her guy doesn't think she has other guys' children.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/24 09:22 AM
3	Are women not getting approached anymore? Then that's not consent. If you go to the bank and they hand you a document for your consent to open a new bank account, you can't just nod at the bank teller, or wink at him, or smile at him, or have positive vibes, you have to affirmatively make it unambiguous that you are consenting and sign. That was the entire point of the consent conversation that feminists forced on mainstream society -- That no means no. You can't say yes or no with smiling or calmness or positive vibes. Obviously, in re…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/24 08:42 AM
1	Why is it normalized for women to be irritable and thus yell at their partners when before they menstruate or are pregnant? Is the sisterhood like the thin blue line from police officers who refuse to call out the bad apples?	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/24 08:34 AM
0	Why is it normalized for women to be irritable and thus yell at their partners when before they menstruate or are pregnant? Men have between 300 to 1000 ng/dL of testosterone, while women range between 15 to 70 ng/dL of testosterone. A woman's difference between their maximum and minimum range is 55 ng/dL, which is what you want to entirely blame for a woman's erratic behavior during her period -- Even though it isn't even a blip on the radar compared to even a man's lowest reference range of testosterone. And here you want to attribute the colorful behavior of women to this fluctuation, which men apparently have to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/24 08:30 AM
0	Why is it normalized for women to be irritable and thus yell at their partners when before they menstruate or are pregnant? What are you talking about? Literally no one does that. If a woman shows up to work with a black eye, no one ever asks, "Oh no sweetheart, what did you do to deserve that?"	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/24 08:15 AM
9	Are women not getting approached anymore? That doesn't even make sense, you can't ask someone do I have consent to talk to you before talking to them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/24 08:54 PM
1	Why do men not tell other men to be vulnerable, AND, why do women tell men to be more vulnerable, en masse? Yeah, so just wondering. How many women are in the trenches of Ukraine, and how many men are in the trenches of Ukraine?	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/24 10:14 AM
–	The gender divide has become undeniable , can anything be done to solve this? It's not subjective, it's actually very objective and whether you agree or not doesn't change reality. Jobs where the workforce is majority women are jobs that are nice for society to have, such as nurses, teachers, administrators, and caretakers. We would be impacted by the loss of these jobs, but society as a whole will survive. Jobs where the workforce is majority male are jobs that are vital to the infrastructure of society, such as loggers, cement workers, construction workers, sewage maint…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/24 04:36 AM
0	Why do men not tell other men to be vulnerable, AND, why do women tell men to be more vulnerable, en masse? How many women are in the trenches of Ukraine?	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/24 04:21 AM
–	The gender divide has become undeniable , can anything be done to solve this? Then you can't claim that women have value that is used by society is distributed. You are refusing to look at the fact that men disproportionately provide more value to society for distribution. Society greatly benefits from having functioning power plants, working sewage systems, trucking routes that carry merchandise, and sailors that haul commerce over the high seas, despite the fact that women do not contribute significantly to any of these industries which keep the world from falling apart…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/24 01:07 AM
–	The gender divide has become undeniable , can anything be done to solve this? You don't want to compare the effort between the sexes because you know men work harder. If the answer was that women put in more effort you would be jumping at the opportunity right now to soapbox about it. The reason it's 3:1 is because women get opportunities everywhere for relationships without even putting in effort. You can be in a coffee shop, library, gym, or supermarket, and if you see a guy you like, you basically only have to make eye contact with him and smile and he'll come over and…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/24 12:55 AM
–	The gender divide has become undeniable , can anything be done to solve this? In comparison, can you imagine if any of the MEN stopped working during the pandemic? Would you like to have zero sanitation workers, so the sewage pipes back up all the way to your toilet? Or have the trash pile up in front of your house? How about telecommunications maintenance crews and powerlinesmen? So that you can't even do Zoom classes at home and the entire Internet infrastructure simply collapses. If you look at the effects of, for example, teachers -- Yes, there would be a negative eff…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/24 12:48 AM
2	Most women want socially liberal men who are capable of engaging in “benevolent misogyny “. Why do you think it became possible for workers protections to become rolled back? What gave the capitalist owner class so much leverage? Why has the strength of labor decreased? I'm sure there are a lot of nuanced factors, but undoubtedly one of the largest factors is that the workforce has effectively doubled with women entering the job market. Now, I'm not saying it's unilaterally a bad thing that women entered the workforce, but we have to recognize the knock-on effects of basically diluting…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/24 12:43 AM
–	The gender divide has become undeniable , can anything be done to solve this? Yes, that is correct, this has been the complement between men and women since mankind began. Men protect from the bad and provision the good, and women take that protection and provision to create and caretake life. But feminism has tricked women, and in fact the whole world, into thinking men and women are equal and interchangeable when they are not.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/24 12:34 AM
–	The gender divide has become undeniable , can anything be done to solve this? Are you sure you want to compare the effort men put into dating versus women's efforts? I promise you the calculations will come up with men having to do more. Women can do the bare minimum and see results, men cannot and do not.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 03:10 PM
–	The gender divide has become undeniable , can anything be done to solve this? The difference is that men do not need women's labor in the same way that women need men's labor. If the world had no teachers, nurses, social workers, etc for one day tomorrow, society would survive. But if the world had no power plant technicians, sewage workers, truckers, and sailors for one day, literally all of the world's infrastructure would critically fail and may cause billions in damages.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 03:08 PM
6	The gender divide has become undeniable , can anything be done to solve this? Women do need men, it's just that they abstract their need for men through money. But money isn't worth anything if men stop working.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 01:11 PM
3	Most women want socially liberal men who are capable of engaging in “benevolent misogyny “. Except I'm not the only person who has had this kind of experience. Many people can attest to women expecting unequal gentlemanly treatment that they would never give back to the man. I'm one data point out of millions that point towards women wanting this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 11:24 AM
4	If your job skills were hopeless, would you rather be a sex worker or a housewife? I'm pretty sure a lot of women in the past have basically had to make this choice, before capitalism existed.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 11:03 AM
5	Most women want socially liberal men who are capable of engaging in “benevolent misogyny “. Yeah, if I remember correctly she said this about the car door as well as about pulling out the chair at the restaurant. But then Armenians are exceptionally traditional if I recall correctly, as well as not marrying outside of their race.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 11:01 AM
–	Why do you use makeup? Like donning a suit of social armor.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 09:58 AM
8	Most women want socially liberal men who are capable of engaging in “benevolent misogyny “. Yes, but in the same breath will claim that they believe in gender equality while asking for inequality.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 09:25 AM
22	Most women want socially liberal men who are capable of engaging in “benevolent misogyny “. Except men are just getting the worst of both worlds. The average man simultaneously has less access to education and buying power in proportion to women compared to decades prior, while women continue to expect that their partners are more educated than her and make more money than her. And in fact yes, you do have to be sexist to be dominating or provide, because the balance is that the woman has to be submissive and caretaking, i.e. the two partners have to have gender inequality in their rol…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 09:22 AM
6	Most women want socially liberal men who are capable of engaging in “benevolent misogyny “. How many women do you know who do not use social media? No Instagram, TikTok, reddit, YouTube, SnapChat, or Facebook?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 09:06 AM
10	Most women want socially liberal men who are capable of engaging in “benevolent misogyny “. I have an Armenian coworker and she literally told me, "If my husband hadn't opened the door for me on my first date, there would have been no second date."	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 09:04 AM
4	Have tradcons taken over the redpill? No, red pill is literally the male response to female autonomy. Men used to have to get past other men to get married -- i.e. your uncles, brothers, and father, so things like honesty, loyalty, and reputation used to be good traits for men to have because it showed the men in your family that you were a good man for her. Now, women just give out sex with no requirement for commitment, all in the name of female empowerment and liberation, so men had to adapt and learn female psychology to get the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 04:57 AM
1	Is there a Lizzo Paradox™ for males? Only in public; most women that you have conversations in private would tell you something completely different, and most likely more honest, about what they think concerning Lizzo's physique.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 02:17 AM
1	Why do men not tell other men to be vulnerable, AND, why do women tell men to be more vulnerable, en masse? Contempt for or prejudice towards men or things relating to men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 01:17 AM
1	Why do men not tell other men to be vulnerable, AND, why do women tell men to be more vulnerable, en masse? It's not name calling, it's just accurate; you ARE actually trying to propagate a misandrist idea, which would make you a misandrist.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/24 11:48 PM
1	Why do men not tell other men to be vulnerable, AND, why do women tell men to be more vulnerable, en masse? Lol what? A sparkly vampire who is wants to drink your blood and fights off clans of werewolves and vampires in order to kill them and protect you is not "feminine". A billionaire owner of a company who ties up his secretary to whip her and spank her while give her the best fucking of her life is not "feminine". Even if they open up or show their emotions, it's almost always female-approved emotions in female-approved ways that boost her attraction to him, like "ooh my god your blood is so irres…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/24 11:37 PM
1	Why do men not tell other men to be vulnerable, AND, why do women tell men to be more vulnerable, en masse? You can already choose gender with IVF.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/24 11:32 PM
–	Most girls are genuinely repelled by truly kind men, you have to have some degree of asshole in you or they will get bored It's not a trick -- Being an asshole is the most genuine signal you can possibly send. I don't get why people try to talk around this fact that showing the willingness to break social norms and transgress moral boundaries IS ATTRACTIVE. Obviously there are ways to be an asshole that women don't want to sleep with, but the fact that when you are an asshole in the right way, women DO want to sleep with you, is the important point. It means you need to stop telling men to not be assholes, and stop …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/24 11:13 PM
–	Most girls are genuinely repelled by truly kind men, you have to have some degree of asshole in you or they will get bored The crux of the issue is still that asshole -> attraction. You can argue what PART of being an asshole (confidence, swagger, etc.) makes her attracted, but it's just undeniable at this point that if you break social norms in the right way like Christian Grey women want you harder than if you play it nice. So while we can have a SEPARATE conversation about the moral, ethical, social, and spiritual ramifications of being a nice person, there is just no doubt that in a sexual conversation about bei…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/24 11:03 PM
–	Q4W: Would you have an issue with men showing off their penises? And if they want to wear assless chaps they should wear assless chaps, what's your point?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/24 10:58 PM
5	Would you care if your gf hung out with guys she’s slept with in the past? Right? It's pretty cringe if you aren't willing to watch your woman get railed by strange men that you've never met. Gangbangs are female empowerment and you're basically anti-feminist if you can't see that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/24 10:56 PM
–	Q4W: Would you have an issue with men showing off their penises? Well maybe you should stop being a karen and bodyshaming men who want to wear what they want to wear, how do you have this much time and energy?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/24 10:55 PM
–	Q4W: Would you have an issue with men showing off their penises? You're right, men SHOULD be allowed to walk around outside wearing only assless chaps, swinging their cock and balls around.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/24 10:48 PM
3	Most girls are genuinely repelled by truly kind men, you have to have some degree of asshole in you or they will get bored Oh I love this game. It does	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/24 11:24 AM
7	Most girls are genuinely repelled by truly kind men, you have to have some degree of asshole in you or they will get bored No, being nice is actively detrimental to your results in the dating market. Women do not respond to men who respect them, they respond to men who push their boundaries with the right timing. They don't respond to men who demonstrate clarity and commitment, they do respond to men who are dismissive and do not make her a priority. It's just beyond clear to men by now that women do NOT want nice. The guy who excites them the most is the one who is almost telepathically good at acting and speaking …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/24 11:20 AM
1	Most girls are genuinely repelled by truly kind men, you have to have some degree of asshole in you or they will get bored You keep avoiding the actual issue -- Being an asshole objectively works. Why do people like to psychobable around the fact that the attributes that women find attractive in men are the socially-transgressive ones?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/24 10:58 AM
7	Most girls are genuinely repelled by truly kind men, you have to have some degree of asshole in you or they will get bored This is such an empty platitude. People get into the dating market in order to date. If you get zero dates out of being nice then you're just failing by default. Do you go to work and do a good job even if your boss doesn't pay you because hard work is it's own reward? No, you'd just be wasting your time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/24 10:49 AM
8	Most girls are genuinely repelled by truly kind men, you have to have some degree of asshole in you or they will get bored Leverage is not a goal, but you ignore it at your own peril. Every relationship has a power imbalance along multiple axes, and just because you choose not to look at it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/24 10:46 AM
0	Q4W: Would you have an issue with men showing off their penises? So the question is whether yoga pants are acceptable or not -- cameltoes, FUPAs, and mooseknuckles galore.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/24 10:43 AM
29	Would you care if your gf hung out with guys she’s slept with in the past? You're not willing to have your wife get a train ran on her by all of her ex-boyfriends while you watch? Sounds pretty insecure bro.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/24 10:39 AM
5	Most girls are genuinely repelled by truly kind men, you have to have some degree of asshole in you or they will get bored Women love apathy, cruelty, and disrespect in men. Serial killers and their thousands of female fans tells you a lot about the female psyche. There's also an entire genre of fiction that tells you what women at their core actually want; 50 Shades of Grey and its adjacents never show a caring, kind, and respectful man who the lead falls in love with, this isn't some grand mystery that women love it when a man is transgressive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/24 10:27 AM
3	Most girls are genuinely repelled by truly kind men, you have to have some degree of asshole in you or they will get bored I think this response is too evasive -- If kindness is consistently punished in the dating market, then saying that kindness is its own reward is just a platitude that has no substance.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/24 10:25 AM
7	Most girls are genuinely repelled by truly kind men, you have to have some degree of asshole in you or they will get bored Being "nice" is valuable for the woman, not for the man. It makes a man a more reassuring choice, but not a more attractive choice. Reassurance doesn't give the man any any leverage in the relationship; it only negotiates for the relationship when he is insufficiently attractive for her to choose him without him sacrificing to make her feel safe.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/24 10:01 AM
10	Most girls are genuinely repelled by truly kind men, you have to have some degree of asshole in you or they will get bored Except that the way to deal with that shit hand, is literally being a shittier person to women. For whatever stupid evolutionary reason, women interpret shitty behavior positively, despite societal messaging about men needing to be nice instead. It's literally the biggest shit test -- If you follow the advice of the herd, you end up getting less success than someone who stands out by treating women worse.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/24 09:58 AM
6	Most girls are genuinely repelled by truly kind men, you have to have some degree of asshole in you or they will get bored Why should he be nice if he gets laid while being confident and not nice? There's zero reward for niceness in the dating market.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/24 09:55 AM
7	Most girls are genuinely repelled by truly kind men, you have to have some degree of asshole in you or they will get bored Observation after observation shows that you cannot just be decent to a woman; you have to show her that you are willing to be shitty to her in order to be attractive. People can "rename" what being an asshole, but an asshole is an asshole and they get laid. And this isn't a sample size of two, guy after guy has stories basically like this. The alternative is that every dude's just lying about being assholes and they're actually getting laid by bringing flowers on the first date but somehow I do…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/24 09:54 AM
9	Most girls are genuinely repelled by truly kind men, you have to have some degree of asshole in you or they will get bored Your "being nice" strategy has worked for me and lots of people I know. You basically just described being a good boyfriend. However, I only do that stuff AFTER starting a relationship. I guess if you do all that stuff before it can come across as clingy. Then that's just a failing strategy; you're telling me that it only works for steps 3 and 4 but it can't survive steps 1 and 2. You basically still have to show asshole behavior to get past steps 1 and 2.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/24 09:51 AM
–	CMV: The sex positives on this subreddit are interested in normalizing cheating behavior. No it's not? You can have any type of sex and it can be cheating as long as you are exclusive elsewhere. It's not like only intercourse types of sex counts but oral types of sex don't count.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/24 08:05 AM
–	CMV: The sex positives on this subreddit are interested in normalizing cheating behavior. Then why are you acting like cheating isn't sex? It is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/24 12:24 AM
–	CMV: The sex positives on this subreddit are interested in normalizing cheating behavior. Not an argument, just the truth. Cheating is sex while you are exclusive with another person.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/24 12:21 AM
7	Redpill men: How much money do you make? Do you feel that you make enough to provide for both you and your (real or hypothetical) spouse? This really REALLY depends on where you live. In rural parts of the United States 100k would have you living comfortably. In New York City 100k would be enough for rent and nothing else.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/24 11:45 AM
-1	CMV: The sex positives on this subreddit are interested in normalizing cheating behavior. Cheating is just sex, in a certain context.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/24 08:29 AM
2	Who is your favourite example of positive masculinity? My favorite example of positive masculinity is Ukrainian soldiers blasting Russian invaders out of their helicopters with Javelin missiles.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/24 08:24 AM
1	Is approaching women something men are stopping to do? Is it also frowned upon? Also is male sexuality demonized? If you're sufficiently feminine in looks, action, and language, I'm sure you get more leeway with how you treat people in general. I think black men, taller men, or fatter men can attest to this -- People treat you differently. The fact that your color or your size or the way you speak makes you threatening is immediately apparent to them as they grow up and they learn to treat people with extra berth so that they don't make people uncomfortable. what tf are you even on??? things will be much di…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/24 11:52 PM
3	Is it controlling to want your girlfriend to not go clubbing? I think you guys are getting mixed up in just the semantics. The boundary is neither "for yourself" nor "for others". If you have a relationship with someone, there is a space between you two, and you set a boundary between the two of you; it's neither for yourself or for others. What IS important is that whether the boundary is violated is in their control, and that the response to the violation is in your control. For example, you can't set a boundary with your spouse that men aren't allowed t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/24 08:28 AM
7	Is it seen as ungrateful or a bad choice to decline sex? Are you like making up some definition of misandry that no one else uses just to be able to pivot back to your favorite M-word? I'm feeling a bit of that "black people can't be racist because racism is prejudice plus power" bullshit going on.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/24 08:18 AM
6	Why I believe Men are unsympathetic towards Women's grievances in dating. Women attempt suicide more Your counter to "more men die by suicide" is "more women fail to die by suicide"? are driven out of jobs where they can get occupational injuries Women don't TAKE jobs where there is a chance of injury. Even in the countries with the highest level of gender equality, women do NOT flock to in any traditionally masculine jobs that require physical work or danger. it's not women's fault that men get lower university admissions when men have succeeded in academia for mille…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 11:44 AM
1	Why I believe Men are unsympathetic towards Women's grievances in dating. I think you missed the point again -- Whether the man wants an LTR or not is based on THE WOMAN'S ACTIONS. If you don't at least offer to pay for half the bill, if you respond to attention from other men during the date, if you are on your phone during the date, if you treat the waiter badly, etc. then I am less likely to want an LTR. Men don't just walk into a date having already decided that they want an LTR before they even know if they like the other person, that's literally the point of the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 07:28 AM
8	Why I believe Men are unsympathetic towards Women's grievances in dating. Except it's MEN who have it worse all across the baord. Literally in everything other than sex/pregnancy stuff, men are objectively worse off. Suicide rates, occupational injury, wartime deaths, victims of violent crime, lower university admissions, higher hours worked, reports of loneliness, dating challenges, homelessness, rates of addiction, magnified effects of racism, and lack of social safety nets in general.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/24 11:17 PM
1	Why I believe Men are unsympathetic towards Women's grievances in dating. You get the opportunity to be used for sex, yes, but not always for an actual meaningful relationship. That is YOUR choice. The guy is attracted to you, and whether you let him use you just for sex or turn this into a relationship is up to how you act. Literally all the chips are on your side of the table when you know a guy is into you and you want to pretend like it's an equal playing field with men, the majority of whom will never have a woman be as obviously forwardly attracted to him as a m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/24 11:12 PM
2	If men don’t pay for dates are they willing to change their preferences for the sake of equality? Yeah, because you women won't just all stop wearing makeup. No one judged women based on whether their makeup was on point back when we were living in caves for millions of years, the only reason you are doing this NOW in 2024 is because other women are doing it, and if you are the only one to stop doing it YOU get taken down a peg since all of the other women are still prettying themselves up. It doesn't matter whether you care or not about competing with other women, because that is the realit…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/24 11:06 PM
–	CMV: Although it should remain legal, it is immoral for a woman to remain pregnant if the man doesn’t want the child. Oh I got it, so it's okay for men to be accountable but not okay for women to be accountable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/24 07:26 AM
–	CMV: Although it should remain legal, it is immoral for a woman to remain pregnant if the man doesn’t want the child. Then we need to start repealing the policies that have been put into place in the name of gender equality.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/24 07:26 AM
1	How do you explain the phenomenon of ‘high quality’ falling for absolute dregs? No, it doesn't. This completely plays into the dual-axis of female attachment. You can raise your bad boy score or your good guy score and you end up getting put into different zones based on where you land, anywhere from friend zone to situationship zone. These women are finding men who are staunchly in the bad boy zone and the mistake zone, and these are attractive to women who love making bad decisions.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/24 07:12 AM
1	If men don’t pay for dates are they willing to change their preferences for the sake of equality? You're missing the point. All of that money you are investing into your hair, your skincare, your makeup, your clothing, you will still have all of it after the date is over; those are your resources that you aren't sharing with the men who are paying for your date. You can use those resources to attract any other man and you would still be the beneficiary, not your date. When the man pays for your date, that money is donezo; it's gone. You've benefitted off of his money because it was exclusive…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/24 07:06 AM
6	If men don’t pay for dates are they willing to change their preferences for the sake of equality? Lol no. You aren't putting yourself together for the men, you're doing it to compete with other women. Do you think men didn't fuck back in the stone age when there was no makeup or pretty dresses?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/24 06:52 AM
14	Why I believe Men are unsympathetic towards Women's grievances in dating. You still get basically a cheat code to have an opportunity with the men you want. What you make of that opportunity is up to you. On the flipside, men have to work hard just to get the opportunity to begin with, after which men still have to put in disproportionately more work than women to turn that opportunity into something meaningful.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/24 04:12 AM
3	The DHS paid almost 700k to a counter-terrorism NGO to intercept and divert Twitter traffic away from people in the “manosphere” and those who take issue with promiscuity. Do you agree with these actions and the funding of this report? People mix up descriptive statements and prescriptive statements all the time. I feel like people need to get lectured on the difference between the two before they can comment. Just because I make an observation, like "All of the top chess players have been men." does not mean I am saying, "All of the top chess players should be men."	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/24 03:51 AM
5	Is approaching women something men are stopping to do? Is it also frowned upon? Also is male sexuality demonized? Possible, but it was literally just one beer each for us over the course of 2-3 hours, and it was after a meal. Was just an excuse to sit down and talk together more than anything. I wasn't drunk, and she didn't appear so either.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/24 10:18 AM
1	Is approaching women something men are stopping to do? Is it also frowned upon? Also is male sexuality demonized? I definitely appreciate your consideration, however of course, I'm not navigating my life by demanding absolute explicit communication; it just wouldn't be realistic. I take in nonverbal cues and act based on them, I learn from the mistakes that I do make and try not to let them traumatize me, I reflect on how I approach people and life by thinking about how I think, and I take measured risks in social situations to build confidence by reassuring myself that the reality that gets portrayed onlin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/24 09:08 AM
13	Is approaching women something men are stopping to do? Is it also frowned upon? Also is male sexuality demonized? No, you don't get to evade the fact that men are just expected to do more and still call it equality by trying to belittle men and minimize the enormous amount of work men do to give women security; either address the point or concede. You and I both know that men need to do EXTRA to make women feel safe socially that people do not need to do for men. Men will purposely give women wider berth when they walk past them. When men come across a woman at night, they have to consider crossing the stre…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/24 08:57 AM
8	Is approaching women something men are stopping to do? Is it also frowned upon? Also is male sexuality demonized? obvious Do explain.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/24 07:37 AM
7	Is approaching women something men are stopping to do? Is it also frowned upon? Also is male sexuality demonized? That's a lie if I ever heard one. Literally just last year, I went to a friend's wedding shower. I was introduced to one of the maids of honor, and we promptly had a seat with a seaside view by the open bar, with the rest of the guests and festivities behind us. She spent basically the remainder of the 2-3 hours of the shower excitedly talking with me over beers, and when I said something she agreed with she even had this idiosyncrasy where she would do like a "poetry snap" with her fingers in s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/24 07:26 AM
6	Is approaching women something men are stopping to do? Is it also frowned upon? Also is male sexuality demonized? I am definitely not a stranger to the amount of nonverbal communication that happens even when language is involved. But here's the issue; it's now 2024, and the world that women have decided to build is one in which if I don't have absolute certainty that me making a move on you is welcome, then there is a non-zero chance that I get my reputation dragged either within my social circle, my friend group, my family, my workplace, or online. And if we are going to live in that world, then women, by…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/24 07:13 AM
11	Is approaching women something men are stopping to do? Is it also frowned upon? Also is male sexuality demonized? I reject this "equal but separate" notion of men and women. You are saying that if I am in a social group with a woman, I have to do the unpaid emotional labor of making sure I am respectful of her weakness in a way that no one has to do for me, and that I do not have to do for male friends, but that somehow this is still equality. Putting that mental burden on me of having to read for social cues that others do not have to read for in me causes an inherent inequality in how much charity women a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/24 07:06 AM
21	Is approaching women something men are stopping to do? Is it also frowned upon? Also is male sexuality demonized? Everything always comes back to gender equality. Do women want to be treated equally to men, or do they want to be given special treatment for being smaller and weaker? Because it seems like at every turn men get told they need to treat women differently out of respect for this that and the other, and then at the very next turn we get told that it's 2024 and anything men can do women can too because men and women are equal.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/24 01:36 AM
16	Is approaching women something men are stopping to do? Is it also frowned upon? Also is male sexuality demonized? she will make it obvious Will she use English words to construct a sentence, such as "I like you, do you want to go out with me?" or is she going to smile 2.12 seconds longer than usual, shift her eyes 27 degrees closer towards you, and touch your shoulder 17% more often than standard? Because if the response isn't "Yes, she will say I like you." then no, that is not "making it obvious". Most men have to learn to decipher what is essentially overlapping signals of friendliness versus flirtiness …	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/24 01:31 AM
3	The DHS paid almost 700k to a counter-terrorism NGO to intercept and divert Twitter traffic away from people in the “manosphere” and those who take issue with promiscuity. Do you agree with these actions and the funding of this report? That's as stupid as the incel logic of "If I am poor and weak and do nothing to improve myself, I should still be able to get a girlfriend. If women don't choose me that means women are to blame for the consequences they create to force me to do things I don't want to do." Men didn't get together into a shadowy cabal and write into law that "If women sleep around, we will all collectively decide that she isn't worth committing to long-term." This is just how most men feel, and how they respond t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/24 01:00 AM
5	The DHS paid almost 700k to a counter-terrorism NGO to intercept and divert Twitter traffic away from people in the “manosphere” and those who take issue with promiscuity. Do you agree with these actions and the funding of this report? Literally no one is trying to "push for women to lose their freewill". Most of the times, men are saying, "Here are the observations, when women does A, it seems like B ends up happening. B is kind of bad." And women translate this to mean, "Women are evil beings who should be forced to stop doing A." For example, "It looks like when women have more sexual partners before marriage, it has a statistically significant effect on the outcome of their marriage. The effect tends to be negative." And w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/24 11:02 PM
1	How bad Is not being able tò do masculine jobs when It comes to long term relationship? ( Like fixing, assemble things, Easy plumbing/maintenance, orientation without Google maps ) Depends on where you get your advice from, there is a significant portion of women telling men that in order to be more attractive, they should be more emotionally open, be willing to do more house chores, be more committed to their partner, make her feel safe, be more trustworthy, etc. These things increase a woman's feeling of security, it does not increase her feeling of attraction.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/24 09:48 PM
2	How bad Is not being able tò do masculine jobs when It comes to long term relationship? ( Like fixing, assemble things, Easy plumbing/maintenance, orientation without Google maps ) No, the ultimate point is that bring able to do THE RIGHT THINGS is attractive to THE RIGHT GENDER. If you get really good at a video game, most women will not flock to you. If you get really good at carpentry, that WILL make you more attractive to women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/24 09:02 PM
1	How would you prefer a man express their interest in you? I'm tired of all the inactionable specificity that happens over and over again on PPD. "Nobody is everybodies type" is inactionable specificity -- Are you are going to be so specific as to require universal agreement before you do something? Nope, you go work out at the gym, make more money, and learn some skills. Just because 0.01% of the female population likes weak poor useless men doesn't mean you shouldn't do the work that 99.99% of the female population finds attractive, which is a strong …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/24 08:50 PM
0	FEMINISM WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD lol i mean theres an entire field of apologetics you are unaware of then Oh, I'm aware of it. It's like how there's an entire field of flat earth theorists when all it takes is two pinholes and a light source to disprove it; apologetics similarly takes Epicurus 4 lines of prose to dismiss. If feminism isn't based on science, then we need to stop making policy decisions based on it, with our entire culture progressing lockstep with an ideology born of female trauma made manifest.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/24 08:39 PM
–	Men don't really want male issues to be solved , they want power That would normally be true, but it's like the yin yang symbol -- a big black comma with a dot of white, and a big white comma with a dot of black. Our current society thinks that if we make the black dot bigger and bigger in the white comma, that all our problems would be solved. So the balance is completely thrown off, the dot has become bigger than the comma, and so advocating for "both sides" at this point feels tonedeaf to me since we've shot right past the midline towards completely femini…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/24 12:55 PM
–	Men don't really want male issues to be solved , they want power Not being at the top of the heap is not destructive. What is destructive is lying to boys their entire childhood about life having no hierarchy and then they come out of school into the real world and are forced to realize that the entire world functions off of hierarchies. You are basically telling me, "Exercise is necessary to stay healthy, but exercise is painful, what is your solution or proposal to this?" The solution is to do the painful thing anyways.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/24 12:42 PM
–	Men don't really want male issues to be solved , they want power The problem is that when the thing to overcome is another human being, no amount of cooperation can prepare you for it. This is the fundamental lesson that you get taught in competition that you can't learn anywhere else. You winning means someone else losing, how do you emotionally deal with this? Someone else's full attention is turned towards beating you, can you manage this level of antagonistic stress? There is a clear indicator of victory and defeat, is this pressure too much for you? Is y…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/24 11:59 AM
–	Men don't really want male issues to be solved , they want power The boys that aren't competitive are still going to improve their station in life by being exposed to competition, because the alternative is what you see today -- people checking out of society at the first sign of difficulty because not everyone can have everything they want with zero effort. If you want something that other people want, that requires competition. There's no escape from it; it's like chickenpox -- either get it as a child and it really sucks, or grow up and get it as an adult …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/24 10:38 AM
3	How true is the Madonna Whore complex for guys? This sounds like hoe_math's "Keepers to Sleepers" paradigm because she showed you a personality trait that dropped her attachment score with you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/24 09:43 AM
1	Did a (F) Coworker Confirm Major Parts of TRP Theory? I think most of women's disbelief at the things that men do can be remedied by spending just one day with 20x more testosterone in their bloodstream than they normally do. (Female range 15-70 ng/mL. Male range 300-1000 ng/mL.)	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/24 09:41 AM
-1	Did a (F) Coworker Confirm Major Parts of TRP Theory? Every data point is a single interaction. This is the point of, for example, the red pill. It enables men to share data point after data point that lets them create a line of best fit on the graph.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/24 09:34 AM
4	Did a (F) Coworker Confirm Major Parts of TRP Theory? When women change something about their appearance, they actually really like it when someone they know calls positive attention to it, because (naturally) they are insecure about how it makes them look because it's new and different from what was safe (the appearance that everyone was already used to). So this can in fact come up organically as a corollary to the observation that they changed something about their appearance; doesn't even have to be about hair.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/24 09:32 AM
2	How bad Is not being able tò do masculine jobs when It comes to long term relationship? ( Like fixing, assemble things, Easy plumbing/maintenance, orientation without Google maps ) But I think the fact that it IS gendered is the important part -- Like, men generally aren't attracted to a woman pushing him aside to grab the tire iron to change a tire. And as much as people want you to think otherwise, women generally don't feel like a man is more attractive because he's really good at playing with kids (it'll make him a more safe choice, but not a more attractive choice). But if you turn it around, a man who see a woman that can nurture and caretake definitely puts more poi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/24 09:28 AM
–	Why don't RP/PP talk about obesity and its effect on the dating market? Yeah, similarly in Japan, it's probably the least obese country on Earth. However, men are increasingly checking out of the dating market. There's even a term for passive men that won't approach women for sexual relationships: Herbivore men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/24 09:17 AM
–	Men don't really want male issues to be solved , they want power Just as a recent example, I don't think Jordan Peterson said any of those things about women voting or pedophilia or rape. I don't like what he has to say about religion, because he sounds like he's talking out his ass once he gets into archetypes and shit, but his basic message to men resonates with a lot of people, and it's primarily that you need to take responsibility for your shit. And yet he's treated as an incel sympathizing piece of shit -- and worse -- all over the Internet. And here's …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/24 08:55 AM
–	Men don't really want male issues to be solved , they want power Fundamentally, masculine solutions are solutions that direct energy outward (taking up a jiujutsu class to work through your stress, founding a company to solve an unmet social need, etc.), whereas feminine solutions direct energy inward (hiring a therapist to introspect on your own emotions, bringing attention to an issue to take in social help from other people, etc.). As for solutions, I'm just gonna spitball some things on my mind, can't guarantee it all comes out coherent though: Boys need …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/24 08:51 AM
–	Men don't really want male issues to be solved , they want power No, I don't think so. I think men have been the far more active gender for all of history about solving problems. The main difference is that in year 2024, the culture has shifted so far in favor of everything female and in villifying everything male that we are metaphorically force-injecting sedatives into young men and then blaming them for not taking action. In fact, any time someone speaks up for men, holy fuck, the response they get -- Misogynist, anti-feminist, chauvinist, incel sympathizi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/24 08:06 AM
35	Women are afforded a lot more leeway in what they can get away with Not just reporting on female predators, but reporting on female achievers as well. If a man finds a cure to cancer, it's "Researcher finds cure to cancer." If a woman finds a cure to cancer, it's "Female researcher finds cure to cancer." Also for victims, if ten men die in an accident, it'll say "Ten dead in gas leak explosion." Otherwise, it'll say "Ten dead, including two women, in gas leak explosion." And of course, also happens for those in a position of disadvantage. I think the famous exam…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/24 07:47 AM
–	Men don't really want male issues to be solved , they want power I think that deep down men don't care for feminine solutions to male problems. I think this is the crux of your entire post that deserves actual discussion: Why does society only accept feminine solutions to female problems, and feminine solutions to male problems? If a male problem requires a masculine solution, how does that make you feel?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/24 07:41 AM
0	FEMINISM WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD Dismantle? I think you got the wrong idea. The same way god doesn't need to be dismantled because it doesn't even pass the test of falsifiability, feminism likewise is worse than wrong, it's not even wrong. And if we were to leave feminism in the realm of speculative thought, that would be fine, but our entire culture and government is marching goosestep with whatever aligns with the ideology, and so a level of rigor and perspective would be the least that one would expect.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/24 07:37 AM
1	FEMINISM WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD Feminism has placed itself into a position where its basic tenets themselves are actually untenable. Imagine if someone said they designed a perpetual motion engine, and wants you to read their 500 page treatise on it. You would rightly first ask how they managed to violate of the laws of thermodynamics. The basic foundation of feminism, such as the patriarchy, oppression, toxic masculinity, etc. range from either completely deluded to, at my most charitable, a motte and bailey logical fallacy. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/24 10:39 PM
11	Do most women really dislike being approached in general? The dating customs of today are shaped by the invention of condoms, hormonal birth control, dating apps, social media, and feminism. You can't really replicate today's scenario with people from 2000 years ago.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/24 07:51 AM
2	The Fallacious Connection Between Male Insecurity and Female Breadwinners Or is it that women keep trying to date men that are more than them? Stronger, taller, richer, more skilled, more educated, more assertive, more confident, etc. How much of your observation is women choosing specifically these men to be in relationships with? I don't know why we like removing accountability and responsibility from women's choices so much when we talk about these things, as if relationships just poof into existence out of sheer power of masculine will, and women don't choose rela…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/24 01:16 PM
1	How would you prefer a man express their interest in you? Because people keep asking how do you make a good cake, and women keep answering well you need to have really well-made fondant designs, find fitting colorful fruits that are fresh to decorate the top of the cake, the frosting should be a good mix of sugar and milk, and do your best artistic job with the cream and sprinkles to decorate. Then men come in and say, actually you need to make sure your cake batter is the correct proportion of eggs, milk, butter, and flour. If you don't want to make i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/24 11:21 AM
1	How would you prefer a man express their interest in you? Because people keep asking how do you make a good cake, and women keep answering well you need to have really well-made fondant designs, find fitting colorful fruits that are fresh to decorate the top of the cake, the frosting should be a good mix of sugar and milk, and do your best artistic job with the cream and sprinkles to decorate. Then men come in and say, actually you need to make sure your cake batter is the correct proportion of eggs, milk, butter, and flour. If you don't want to make i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/24 11:14 AM
4	"conditional femininity" vs "conditional masculinity" Power isn't inherently a masculine thing. Women have a larger share of emotional, social, and sexual power whereas men have a larger share of physical, financial, and mental power.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/24 08:34 AM
2	FEMINISM WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD Consider this -- Sweden, the most feminist country in the world, still only has 46% of its women say they are feminist. Even the most feminist country in the world can't get a majority of the female gender to become feminist. What chance is there that there's even a foothold for feminism in countries like Indonesia, the Phillippines, Turkey, Russia, Greece, etc.? It would be like expecting an Afghani man to be a Buddhist monk; Feminism, like all other ideologies, is an ideology of circumstances …	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/24 08:27 AM
1	FEMINISM WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD Right, but remember that the people that engage in those spaces are a specific subset of women, with a certain level of privilege, stratafied to believe in certain things. I guarantee you that the wife of a farmer in rural Texas, a Muslim woman in Britain, a girl living in Indonesia, or literally the majority of the female population in Asia, Africa, Eurasia, Eastern Europe, the Middle East do not identify as feminists. Even the majority of the immigrant population in Western countries do not de…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/24 02:50 AM
1	FEMINISM WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD Most women are not feminists, but they wouldn't call women pick me's for not being feminists.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/24 11:44 PM
1	FEMINISM WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD Except they can't, because feminism is inherently a political power play of the physically weak. The two most defining characteristics of women that guides all of the decisions they make is this physical weakness -- especially in comparison to men -- and pregnancy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/24 11:43 PM
7	FEMINISM WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD Why do we talk about equal pay but never equal work? The majority of value creation in society, from resource extraction to manufacturing and processing, is done by men. The majority of the upkeep of society, from infrastructure to repair, is performed by men. The work that makes things valuable, and keeps them valuable, is done by men. Why do women expect equal pay for unequal work?	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/24 11:39 PM
2	FEMINISM WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD The Bible also doesn't tell it's followers to build megachurches and have pastors flying around on private jets collecting millions in "donations", but yet here we are.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/24 11:33 PM
1	FEMINISM WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD You don't need to read the Bible, Quran, and Talmud to know that god isn't real.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/24 11:28 PM
3	FEMINISM WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD Because feminists think that they are betraying the sisterhood to get better choice of men, since a large portion of men either do not believe in feminism or are against feminism.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/24 11:26 PM
4	Women who complain about dating, is it incorrect to say they are at fault? Dude, we're talking about women who can get 100 dates thinking that's the norm for the world, regardless of gender, how is it men "failing to go dateless for years" that is the issue here? The finger on the scale is so clearly in favor of women that it's not even funny, but people still somehow make this out to be like "uhh men need to try harder".	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/24 12:21 PM
5	Women who complain about dating, is it incorrect to say they are at fault? Literally, yeah, even a chubby woman can get 200+ dates. Even an obese woman gets FOUR TIMES more matches than a literal male model.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/24 12:14 PM
2	Women who complain about dating, is it incorrect to say they are at fault? The choice for women to start dating: Instead of saying no to the men that have been asking me out, I will now start saying yes. The choice for men to start dating: Start going to the gym, build up your finances, begin acquiring useful skills, take better care of your skin and hygiene, start dressing better, work on your confidence and charisma, build a better social circle, start acquiring friends that can introduce you to other friends, begin mustering up the courage to approach women romantic…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/24 12:11 PM
2	Women who complain about dating, is it incorrect to say they are at fault? You are like, way WAAAY overestimating the actual average number of dates that the average man goes on. I would OPTIMISTICALLY wager in the ballpark of maybe 3-4 dates per year would be in the middle for men. With a clump of people getting literally 0-1 dates per year, and a very skinny tail on the bell curve getting more than 10 dates per year. This is what men mean when we talk about men and women playing completely different games. Men are literally over here fighting for their lives while wo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/24 12:05 PM
1	Men mistake women ignoring most men as her being loyal. Let's debate Men value both looks and personality, you probably lean more towards personality, but most men (especially for short term relationships) tend to lean towards looks. Pair bonding versus multiple partners has been a see-saw for most of human history. We are capable of both, and depending on circumstances we adapt and choose the more appropriate strategy for our environment. That's why most societies figured out that they needed external mechanisms to teeter closer towards pair bonding by having so…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/24 11:50 AM
2	Fun hypothetical, here are some options you can choose from to fix dating I would say that a LOT of people cannot gain access to a hyper-stimulus and then go back to reality-stimulus and view it the same way. If you give a person heroine, most likely endogenous serotonin will no longer be enough, because they have a "new normal" set by the heroine. Same with social media, after getting 100 matches on Tinder, or 100 likes per post on Instagram, this would change how you view socializing in general because the oxytocin reward from meeting new people and keeping up conve…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/24 09:47 PM
2	Fun hypothetical, here are some options you can choose from to fix dating I don't think you CAN do both -- It's like when there's a chocolate cake and a chicken salad on the table. If you choose to eat the whole chocolate cake, there's simply no room left to eat the chicken salad. By partaking in easy-access sexual content, you are telling your brain the equivalent of downing a whole chocolate cake: There's no room left in the stomach for the chicken salad, and I don't even want chicken salads because it takes way more work to digest plant fiber and lean protein than …	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/24 11:11 AM
4	Men mistake women ignoring most men as her being loyal. Let's debate She can become more attractive to a specific man through building an emotional bond with him, but cheating requires people outside of your relationship to find you attractive, so no -- in general the qualities that allow a woman to cheat go down as time passes because your physical attractiveness fades with age.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/24 09:58 AM
2	Who do so many actual “alpha males” & “players” who clearly get women and demonstrate being “Red Pill aware” get classified as “purple pilled” or “not Red Pilled” by people in Red Pill spaces? If you take women at their word, then women who say, "Just treat her like a human being." believe this. Unless they're being sexist hypocrites, because then they would be asking for men to treat women they are interested in the same as they treat everyone else, while expecting to be allowed different rules for women to treat men they're sexually attracted to differently.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/24 06:51 AM
–	Why do red pill men dislike attractive women? Yeah, because you are missing the point. The ways in which a woman acts non-traditionally is not the same as the ways in which a man acts non-traditionally. Sexually speaking, this means that a woman is to be selective, and a man is to be active -- These ARE the traditional roles. A woman acquiring more sexual partners takes no effort from her, and demonstrates no value for men. A man acquiring more sexual partners DOES take effort from him, and demonstrates value for women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/24 06:46 AM
–	Why do red pill men dislike attractive women? It's really just men returning the favor on how women see them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/24 06:38 AM
–	Why do red pill men dislike attractive women? If a woman isn't traditional, why would you give her the traditional chivalry treatment? Avoiding marriage is a man's defense against modern women that play games and engage in bad behavior who don't deserve marriage. If you can give a man what he wants when none of these non-traditional women can, a man isn't going to pump and dump you -- he's gonna come back for more and keep you around. What women have gotten wrong is they bought their own fantasy and deluded themselves into thinking they can…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/24 06:33 AM
12	Fun hypothetical, here are some options you can choose from to fix dating I don't think the main purpose of quitting porn is actually to focus on real women. I think porn is in this family of modern opiates, along with ultra-processed food, social media, and video games that lets you flatline your actual emotions with your chosen substitute. Feeling sad? Jerk off to porn. Feeling undesired? Open Instagram. Feeling ashamed? Eat some Doritos. Feeling useless? Beat some kids at Call of Duty. Of course, your drug of choice has knock-on effects, but I think the main proble…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/24 06:20 AM
2	Penetration is essential to most women's complete sexual satisfaction. If a man doesn't cum, and it's a problem in the bedroom, who do you think has the responsibility of fixing this problem from the woman's perspective? I can tell you that most women will not think that it is their responsibility. In fact, a sizable number of women will even take offense at the man not cumming, as if it's a personal attack on her femininity and attractiveness.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/24 05:33 AM
1	Men mistake women ignoring most men as her being loyal. Let's debate This is why it's important to understand the woman's responsibility in the problems of the relationship. Because the number of perceived problems that a woman has with a relationship is inverse to how highly she rates her man. If a woman is dating Brad Pitt, things like "he leaves dishes in the sink" are literal non-factors because of how attracted she is to him and how much desire she feels for the 10/10 guy she is with, whereas in a relationship with a man that is actually at her level, dishes…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/24 05:03 AM
-2	Men mistake women ignoring most men as her being loyal. Let's debate So if there's a problem in the relationship, whose responsibility is it to fix the problem? Because if you factor out the people who cheat due to a problem in the relationship, you are infantilising women by not holding them accountable for their own relationships.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/24 03:47 AM
5	Men mistake women ignoring most men as her being loyal. Let's debate I think you will see this pattern as long as women value things in men that take time to develop, like money, status, physique, and having a wife. The man is probably still working on things that make him attractive, while the woman usually can't get more attractive than she was when the relationship started, so his options grow while her options shrink.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/24 03:44 AM
2	Penetration is essential to most women's complete sexual satisfaction. I think most women are saying if she doesn't cum, it's his fault, but if he doesn't cum, it's also his fault.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/01/24 08:32 AM
1	What does it actually mean to be a non traditional man? there is no gendered claim that women are "intellectual" or that part of being a woman is to be intellectual. There certainly was a gendered claim that women were less intelligent than men until they were given access to the male facilities that allowed for development of intellectual pursuits, and by your definition women ARE less intelligent than men, until they were allowed access to men's universities. i mean you're not a leader if you don't rise to the occasion Give me a time machine and a …	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/12/23 11:16 PM
1	Q4M: would you feel disappointed or betrayed that a friend wants to date you? I think only women feel disappointed in those scenarios.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/12/23 09:52 PM
2	Are male celebrities more likely to date fans than female celebrities? Women can be hypergamous and picky without being evil.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/23 10:18 PM
2	Sex work is not empowering for women , its derogatory and benefits no one What do you think men want but don't know that they want?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/23 06:16 PM
0	What does it actually mean to be a non traditional man? so hypothetical role play without them having to do anything Just like how women are hypothetically intelligent while society prevented them from being able to go to university, if you bar men from being able to fulfill their role you can't then say "Look men aren't able to fulfill their role." doesn't sound like a leader then Leaders are raised, not born. We actively clip our boys' wings in childhood now so that they know what we want from them is a docile, obedient, quiet, defective woman in a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/12/23 09:54 PM
1	For those of you who think women can get anything for free? The thing is, geting stuff for free requires that you attract a traditional man fulfilling his role, and you would need to be a traditional woman fulfilling her role. And just off of how you look, I'm pretty sure you aren't attracting them because you have a very unorthodox aesthetic to your look that probably informs of a lot about your lifestyle and character. Just the two sleeves of tattoos and large-gauge earring as a start already puts you out of the running for most men in that category.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/12/23 11:45 AM
0	Are men really the biggest problem or is it women? The main issue is that the ways in which women compete are given almost no attention but the ways in which men compete are called toxic, shamed, criminalized, and punished. Women can and will weaponize their emotions and their social connections in order to ruin people they don't like. Bullying, gossiping, rumors, slander, lying, manipulation, microexpressions, word choice -- all the mean-girl things that women do behind the scenes is how they fight. But none of this is shamed, criminalized, or …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/12/23 11:21 AM
1	Typical age gap relationship post reactions don't help anyone A young woman can get the attention of more guys at this point than at any other point in her life. Why would a woman, when she has the MOST options, be willing to settle for guys who treat her the worst?	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/12/23 08:09 AM
1	What does it actually mean to be a non traditional man? I think most men are at their core providers and leaders, but the current society takes away their ability to be those things, so men no longer fulfill those roles because it's become impossible. It's more of a change in the context than anything; men have been providing and leading for thousands of years prior when the conditions allowed them to fulfill their roles.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/12/23 04:55 AM
2	Can feminine men be in a relationship with feminine women? can masculine men be in a relationship with a masculine woman? or does there always need to be balance But also almost every same-sex relationship I see, one partner is more masculine than the other and one is more feminine than the other. I never see two hyper-masculine dudes get together or two hyper-feminine chicks get together.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/12/23 04:48 AM
–	There are many women who are so shallow that a man letting them pay for their own food on a date is a turn-off for them. You choose your dealbreakers, so if porn is your dealbreaker and you aren't finding success that's your responsibility. If my dealbreaker was no single moms and I'm dating women 30+ on a dating app and finding no success, that'd be on me to get off the apps. The difference is men have to actively put in energy and effort and time to make options available; you don't. You don't need to be in any apps or waiting for DMs; make yourself presentable and sit down at a coffee shop, make eye contact and…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/23 11:31 PM
1	There are many women who are so shallow that a man letting them pay for their own food on a date is a turn-off for them. Yeah, because you're a woman. You're dating on a totally different dimension from what men have to do. Women can passively acquire romantic interest from others just by having Instagram/Tinder, or by existing in social settings like school or work, and then take their pick. Men have to actively make themselves as broadly attractive as possible so that when they inevitably face rejection from some percentage of the women they ask out, they have options that allow them to move on. The alternative …	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/23 12:46 PM
1	There are many women who are so shallow that a man letting them pay for their own food on a date is a turn-off for them. It's "expensive" to live in most countries relative to their average salary. The only countries likely to see all of its citizens thriving at an average wage are the advanced socialist ones that can subsidize all sorts of social services for its people. And regardless, the fact that it's expensive doesn't in any way diminish the fact that women, by far, still expect that the man pay more into the relationship than she does. Most women are not happy earning more money for the relationship than th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/23 12:41 PM
1	Two leaders in a relationship. Thoughts? 1)homeschooling is illegal in my country so there is no option B, actually Cool, now imagine yourself in a position where you did have to make that decision, and your partner disagrees with you, and consider your answer to the actual difficult question of the thought rather than trying to evade it. And this would be easy even if those two options existed. It would be the choice of the person who would actually have to do the homeschooling. If neither wants to homeschool, it's not an issue. If on…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/23 12:29 PM
–	Is it true that most women think guys won't take them seriously until after they are 25? No, you care about those things AFTER you're already attracted to the man. Honesty, loyalty, respect, and compassion mean zero to a woman until the man already demonstrates he is some acceptable combination of physically fit, skillful, confident, social, famous, or charismatic to the woman. A random man being loyal to a woman is irrelevant, a random man being honest to a woman is irrelevant, etc. But a random man being lean or wealthy or good at something practical or wealthy IS attractive to wo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/23 12:10 PM
1	Is it true that most women think guys won't take them seriously until after they are 25? Just like women don't care about a man's honesty, loyalty, respect, and compassion, just physical fitness, skillfulness, finances, confidence, social connectedness, fame, status, and charisma. Except men aren't going to be delusional about it being a choice -- we know women didn't choose to be drawn to these things, they just are and they can't help it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/23 03:44 PM
–	Men: Stop Complaining What men were told about the world is equivalent to the food pyramid telling you that you must eat 10 servings of bread rice cereal grains and pasta per day to be healthy. If someone told men "actually, overconsumption of carbohydrates as the basis for your diet isn't healthy for you.", we would have been fine. But instead men are lied to and are still lied to, as evidenced by even this very subreddit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/23 01:17 PM
–	There are many women who are so shallow that a man letting them pay for their own food on a date is a turn-off for them. When men share their experience, do you think that they are actually asking you, or women, to change? I don't know why women keep getting this feeling that when men share their observations about how women behave in the real world that they think men are asking them to change. Men generally aren't asking for shit, we're just sharing our experience and we're tired of people who keep lying to us about what we see or forcing us to repress what we feel. So even outside of the Internet, and I know th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/23 01:11 PM
1	Is it true that most women think guys won't take them seriously until after they are 25? If your mind has nothing positive to offer a man, then you will feel like your body is all men want.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/23 12:50 PM
–	There are many women who are so shallow that a man letting them pay for their own food on a date is a turn-off for them. It's the incongruence and the dishonesty. If women are using feminism as a springboard for independence while double-dipping in traditional female privilege, then at least have the grace to admit it so we can work on actual gender equality; the fact that men are being gaslit about this is why men have a problem with it. Either take the responsibility WITH the privilege or don't take either. But you want to have equal wages with men BUT also complain about not being able to date men who earn more…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/23 12:42 PM
–	On Men Dating Plus Size Women It's actually the reverse; in general women downplay/deflect when men's issues are mentioned: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9AEadr3-Es	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/23 12:31 PM
–	On Men Dating Plus Size Women If you want answers from men, being straightforward instead of using evasive language is actually more persuasive at bringing people to the discussion.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/23 12:29 PM
1	There are many women who are so shallow that a man letting them pay for their own food on a date is a turn-off for them. On the Origin of Species by Charles Darwin was written in 1859; just because a book was written in the past doesn't make it irrelevant.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/23 12:25 PM
1	There are many women who are so shallow that a man letting them pay for their own food on a date is a turn-off for them. If we're talking about worldwide population of women, then yes most women want traditional relationships. If we're talking just Canada, United States, Western Europe, and Australia (i.e. countries with Western values), then most women actually still want men who are traditionally masculine (is physically fit, has practical skills, makes more money than her, is well-connected, has charisma and confidence). But they just want it while not being traditionally feminine (may not cook/clean, is a dram…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/23 12:21 PM
–	There are many women who are so shallow that a man letting them pay for their own food on a date is a turn-off for them. Yeah, big boy pants and using words, because women on the other hand are known to be very verbally honest about their feelings in matters of dating.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/23 12:13 PM
0	There are many women who are so shallow that a man letting them pay for their own food on a date is a turn-off for them. Do women think they are being controlled when people point out their behavior truthfully? There are enough women with the mentality of "only guys pays for dates" that you are removing a significant percentage of the population from your dating pool if you only date women that are willing to pay for the date.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/23 12:09 PM
1	Better to lie to Women than be honest I've literally asked a woman before, "Did you come?", and it wasn't because I wanted her to lie to me, but so that I can change up my oral to make her feel better. Similarly crazy if you think a guy wants to be lied about regarding who you are texting and if the child is really theirs, or that they like playing mind games with a woman who is mad but pretends not to be. And if sex doesn't feel good they want you to actually vocalize what is wrong, like an adult person, rather than faking orgasms …	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/23 12:04 PM
5	Better to lie to Women than be honest Holy shit, every single YTA response in that thread is bordering on insane. They won't even admit that this counts as lying to his wife, which is the bare minimum for having a logical discussion, and they won't admit that the man is allowed to have his valid feelings, which is the bare minimum for having a vulnerable discussion. In my eyes, the only thing worth discussing is whether you should or should not lie in that scenario, and how you would go about lying or telling the truth depending on …	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/23 11:56 AM
1	It is better to be desired than tolerated? So that's what confuses me, which is why you responded to someone if nothing in your response actually responded to what they wrote, i.e. about red pill. 😐	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/12/23 11:19 PM
1	Two leaders in a relationship. Thoughts? You can keep thinking up new options until you're blue in the face, but for most situations worth discussing there's going to be some central problem for which there isn't an infinitely reducible number of options. I.e. will we homeschool our child or not? Whatever you think option C is, there is still a question to answer of is the child going to be homeschooled (option A), or is the child not going to be homeschooled (option B). This is basically the case for a lot of situations; THERE IS NO O…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/12/23 11:17 PM
1	Two leaders in a relationship. Thoughts? Full human beings can absolutely decide to give someone else consent to lead them. You aren't any less of a human being if you go to a senior coworker to lead you through a project, or go to a doctor and let them decide what medication you take, or go to a Chinese restaurant and let your Chinese friend decide what's good to order. In all of these cases, the coworker will probably ask you what you want the scope of your project to be, the doctor will take into account what quality of life you wan…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/12/23 11:06 PM
0	It is better to be desired than tolerated? So it has nothing to do with the person you responded to?	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/12/23 11:01 PM
0	It is better to be desired than tolerated? Are you making up fake positions to fight against? What red pill guy says "women need to lower their standards"? Red pill tells guys that yes, women have more options for less work and it's not fair, but it doesn't matter because your job is still to improve your value enough to get more options. Red pill is not a philosophy for telling women what to do. It explains what women ALREADY do, and then gives men an actionable path forward after they accept it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/12/23 10:43 PM
-2	Two leaders in a relationship. Thoughts? You keep introducing the idea of "Option C", but someone has to actually put that option forward, and then if one of the partners disagrees with it then Option C just becomes the new Option A vs Option B. I know you are trying really hard to "escape" the problem of having to make a decision when two partners disagree, but the philosophical thing to do when presented with a thought experiment is not to try and evade it ("I can solve the trolley problem by just hitting the breaks on the trolley!")…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/23 01:06 PM
2	Why aren't there more male mentors? I've always wanted one even now I'm a middle aged man Dangerous is a pretty heavy claim, you're going to have to elaborate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/23 12:50 PM
2	Why aren't there more male mentors? I've always wanted one even now I'm a middle aged man The way I see it, the role of the father, uncles, and older males in the tribe used to be clear -- The mother pampers their sons until their rite of passage to become men, then they learn to hunt, to fight, to protect, to build, to lead, to do everything that men need to do to ensure the tribe survives, from the older men who led the tribe. Even when agriculture became dominant in subsistence, the sons would help the father out in the fields, tend to the herd, etc. and learn what needed to be do…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/23 12:37 PM
2	Why aren't there more male mentors? I've always wanted one even now I'm a middle aged man If 50% of the entire population of the planet doesn't like durian fruit, is there a problem with durian fruit?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/23 11:47 AM
-3	Two leaders in a relationship. Thoughts? So that's the problem; it's that if every time there is a decision for which there isn't an option C and both partners have to agree, you'll just face relationship-ending dealbreakers over and over even if it's something trivial, just because neither partner is willing to back down since that makes them "lose the leader role". This is why having two leaders don't work. A lot of choices in a relationship are going to be "A or B for both of us" and they come in all shapes and sizes. Having a partn…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/23 11:46 AM
–	For those women that don't get "cat called" / approached by men, does the rhetoric that "Every woman faces this" make you feel like 'less" of a woman? Yeah, I think online dating is basically a losing battle for both genders, but it just looks more obvious for men. For women it's a "hidden" losing battle because it technically gives you options but not the kind that most women would actually benefit from long term. Also, while approaching as a man takes courage and practice, being approachable as a woman is also a practice and an art, but one that is worth practicing since women's best options are in real life, not online. You can choose how y…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/23 11:42 AM
3	Why aren't there more male mentors? I've always wanted one even now I'm a middle aged man What do you mean "teach this way of thinking"?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/23 11:38 AM
2	Research on women's aversion to bisexual men If a woman is in the role of a dominatrix, I don't think there's a stigma about her dominating men in the sense that it would taint her, even if she were to peg him. I think the feeling of "taint" does come from the dominant application of the male penis. And I don't know, but do gay men view promiscuous gay men in a negative light?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/23 11:28 AM
1	Why demonize men for “not playing by the rules” when “rules” are inconsistent? But women don't even treat men the way they want to be treated, so what's your point?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/12/23 09:18 PM
4	Why aren't there more male mentors? I've always wanted one even now I'm a middle aged man No. Leadership was forcefully taken away from men, and now they no longer have the ability nor the desire to fulfill responsibilities for which they are granted no privileges for carrying out.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/12/23 08:35 PM
8	Why aren't there more male mentors? I've always wanted one even now I'm a middle aged man Because women change the dynamics of the group and they either police the speech that is allowed or men self-censor once a woman is present because in general men have a wider window of what they are able to converse about without feeling grossed out, creeped out, offended, etc.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/12/23 08:32 PM
3	Research on women's aversion to bisexual men Isn't the conversation about heterosexual women?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/12/23 01:24 PM
–	It’s literally so easy to get a woman when your charismatic and a great conversationalist Sure, women can like men for all sorts of reasons, as long as you admit that men who are attractive literally play by different rules. The window of what counts as being a "charismatic conversationalist" is the width of the Pacific Ocean for a handsome man, but is a tight rope for a short ugly man. You can certainly become a Louis C.K. and be old fat ugly and still be a comedic talker through decades of practice, but even he's settling for asking women if he can masturbate in front of them. Wher…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/12/23 01:20 PM
2	For those women that don't get "cat called" / approached by men, does the rhetoric that "Every woman faces this" make you feel like 'less" of a woman? Do you get asked out instead? Or do people talk to you to ask for your phone number?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/12/23 01:14 PM
3	For those women that don't get "cat called" / approached by men, does the rhetoric that "Every woman faces this" make you feel like 'less" of a woman? The idea of catcalling actually confuses me. What do the men expect? Is there something they get out of catcalling? Have they considered walking up and having a conversation instead?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/12/23 01:12 PM
-1	Two leaders in a relationship. Thoughts? So if they are both the leader and a situation comes up where they need to choose A or B, and partner 1 chooses A while partner 2 chooses B, and after talking it out they both still hold to their original choices, then do they both go with choice A or choice B?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/12/23 01:06 PM
1	What are realistic options / solutions for men who can not compete in today's dating market? There are certainly people who have met partners through D&D, but you are certainly correct that it is lopsided for gender. I would say to be curious about the sorts of hobbies you might be interested in outside of tabletop. Go take some cooking lessons, join a figure drawing class, join a newbie improv group, etc. If you are genuinely curious about what else is out there in the world you might be interested in, I don't think you need to apply such a harsh self-judgement on being open to romance…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/12/23 09:28 AM
1	Redpill ideology, when used actively to pursue women, puts someone in a similar mindset as a sexual predator Romance itself is psychological manipulation. Read up on The Laws of Seduction by Robert Greene if you want it laid out in verbose detail. In short, people WANT to be manipulated and lulled into a fantasy, because reality is anti-seductive. Being seduced is a positive state of being that people willingly enter to give up their control in order to be taken along for a ride, like getting into a line for a rollercoaster. Imagine if you were watching The Titanic -- nobody wants a random guy to jump …	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/12/23 09:21 AM
2	What are realistic options / solutions for men who can not compete in today's dating market? Warm approach and cold approach. Warm approach - Get into social situations by joining classes, clubs, hobby groups, etc. where people regularly meet at a prescheduled time and place for a common purpose, which means people are all gathering for one thing independently of anyone else being there. Get to know people by naturally approaching and starting conversations, find people you vibe with, exchange contact info, and start expanding the scale of things you talk about and do to outside of the …	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/12/23 09:09 AM
5	CMV If a Man is successful with women other women calling him a „mysoinist“ or „inel“ doesnt matter. Results talk for themself. Does it even matter? If one fisherman is willing to take 10 stabs at the water per minute with his spear, and another fisherman is willing to take 2 stabs at the water per minute with his spear, but the first fisherman only catches a fish 50% of the time whereas the second fisherman catches a fish 100% of the time, the first fisherman is still bringing home 5 fish per minute while the second one brings home 2 fish per minute. The first fisherman is still more successful.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/12/23 08:46 AM
1	CMV: Fairness is not code for getting what you want with no inconvenience. There's no victimization, but certainly let's not ignorantly assume men and women are equal here. The original comment saying that "men wait at the finish line to choose the winner just like women" is such a false equivocation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/23 12:05 PM
1	CMV: Fairness is not code for getting what you want with no inconvenience. Yeah, starts at a young age. And then you have to keep actively doing things that make you smarter, more educated, more muscular, more popular, more confident, more charismatic. These things don't just continue to fall into your lap, especially not after you become an adult and you move out into the world. It doesn't just happen for you while you sleep. But burning calories? That literally happens in your sleep. As long as you don't eat so much food, you can't get fat. That's the standard that w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/23 12:02 PM
1	CMV: Fairness is not code for getting what you want with no inconvenience. Depends on the individuals because different people have different standards. Let's not try and purposely muddy the waters with "UwU but everybody's differreeenntt", I think we both know what the general reality is that most people are living in. A man would need to be ridiculously handsome and well put together to have women coming up to him to ask him out at the same rate that an average young woman would be asked out by men. Most men have relationships and get laid. What youre describing is l…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/23 11:53 AM
1	CMV: Fairness is not code for getting what you want with no inconvenience. You can have whatever standard you want, but just don't pretend like women are even in the realm of being equal to men and what men have to do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/23 11:38 AM
1	CMV: Fairness is not code for getting what you want with no inconvenience. Can you clarify what you are trying to say? I don't know what Karens or white people have to do with anything. And no, the only one you can maybe argue for is having rich parents. You can't be born muscular, or popular, or educated, or confident, or charismatic. You can be set on the right path to become these things through good upbringing and following up with your own hard work as you grow up by going to the gym, actively experimenting with social skills and handling rejection, working hard a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/23 11:35 AM
1	CMV: Fairness is not code for getting what you want with no inconvenience. That’s a lie because a gaming company got so big of a backlash for making their skinny female character “ugly” that guys harassed a trans woman over it think she’s the reason the fictional character was “ugly”. I have no idea what this hyper-specific statement is referring to, but can you deal with the general idea though? What does a woman need to do in order to be such an attractive prospect for dating that the opposite sex literally come up to you to ask you out? Basically nothing; you are se…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/23 11:15 AM
–	Rejection Sensitivity I think I want to make it clearer that it's a two-way thing. When people give an excuse, they want to make it sound like it's one-way -- "I'm not ready for a relationship right now." or "I'm too busy to be dating at the moment." or "I'm still processing the previous breakup so I can't be dating yet." It's framed as if this is the thing they would say if anyone else had asked the question as well; it's not. They are saying, "I'm not ready for a relationship with you right now." and "I'm too busy …	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/23 09:33 AM
–	Men's and women's woes are objectively incomparable Obviously it's not, because I'm illustrating a point. It makes no sense to group people together and say, "Oh look Jews are killing Palestinians, but they are all Middle Easterners so I can turn a blind eye to it because that's a problem for Middle Easterners to solve." Or "Ah Hitler is waging war, but since they are all Europeans I can turn a blind eye to it because that's a problem for Europeans to solve." Yes, of course we realize men hurt other men, and while the most apparent may be the phy…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/23 11:41 PM
2	CMV: Fairness is not code for getting what you want with no inconvenience. Yeah, but women are born with their peak HANDED to them. They have to personally ruin it by wasting their youth and overeating. Men are not born muscular, rich, popular, educated, confident, or charismatic -- All of these are active things that men take decades of their life to earn.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/23 10:58 PM
–	Can we just avoid "but we have it worse"? The problem is that it categorically refers to it in terms of gender, and doesn't allow anyone to challenge that fundamental assumption that it's gender-based because it's a motte-and-bailey fallacy in how it gets used by feminists. Lets say that I live in a city where a majority of the crime are committed by black people, and I address this phenomenon as Afrocrime Dominance, with an entire theory behind it about how black people are intellectually inferior, leading to lower academic success, ca…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/23 09:29 AM
1	Getting a roommate is better than a 50/50 man as a woman Not even roommates, but even just friends or acquaintences, especially best friends, keep complaining about them. People who are literal besties individually come to me to complain about the other person, like what the fuck is wrong with women? If I have a problem with my guy best friend he will know it within the day. In fact I'd treat it as a betrayal of friendship if I went to anyone BUT him about an issue between just us.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/23 09:16 AM
–	why do people act like it’s so hard to sexually please women? Because every move that you make around your own genitals, you get instant feedback to what works and what does not, at what time, and at what speed and pressure. Men do not have this information flow into their brains as they do their work on you, all I have to go off of are your moans, the pattern of your breathing, your spasms, your voluntary movements of the thigh or hands, and your words. And most women are frustratingly non-verbal about what they do and do not enjoy, some may even be reluc…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/23 09:13 AM
2	CMV: Fairness is not code for getting what you want with no inconvenience. Was she born obese? Every human being is born under 250 pounds. All a woman has to do to be attractive is be young and not eat so much food. That takes you like 90% of the way there, and most women can't even do that much. The starting line was a child at her healthy weight at birth, and the finish line is a woman with a pile of donuts that she couldn't stop emotionally eating. Obviously this is a bit unfair, because everyone is born to certain genetics and circumstances that cause overeating, (…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/23 09:07 AM
2	CMV: Fairness is not code for getting what you want with no inconvenience. Maybe if you disproportionately preach for responsibility for men but none for women. But otherwise, red pill teaching each other is almost always about personal responsibility when it comes down to what you are supposed to actually do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/23 09:02 AM
3	Rejection Sensitivity Yeah, that's part of what I mean by "proportion". There are going to be difficult "actual" life events that make it almost untenable for anyone to attract you "out of", but there are also people that are attractive enough that you wouldn't dismiss them with the same excuses that you dismiss someone else with. For example, I know I've told people, "Sorry, I'm busy." and then in the same week cleared my schedule for someone else I was more interested in seeing when they reached out. It's not that …	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/23 08:59 AM
–	Men's and women's woes are objectively incomparable No. When men complain about an issue, they get told why it's their responsibility to fix it. When women complain about an issue, we start a social movement to create new laws and programs to fix it for them. Spaces like this online is the only place where there's even a dissenting voice.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/23 08:52 AM
–	Men's and women's woes are objectively incomparable At some point you need to just have your head on straight and say, "Hey, years of cultural, social, legal, and academic changes to push women into universities have lopsided the acceptance rates to 60% women to 40% men, maybe men have it worse now." and have it NOT BE POLITICALLY INCORRECT to say out loud.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/23 08:50 AM
–	Men's and women's woes are objectively incomparable By this logic, if I ever seen a mother beating her daughter to death in broad daylight, no one except another woman is allowed to do anything about it, because that issue needs to be solved with women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/23 08:47 AM
2	Men value casual sex over relationships I don't think a man would be offended, but he does want to be desired for who he is, not just what he can provide for you and do for you. The implication of "husband material" is that he is only good for marriage, which gives the woman legal security, social reassurance, and financial certainty, but what does it give the man other than a tax writeoff? The things a man wants out of the relationship have nothing to do with marriage, it's just what's forced on him by social expectations if he wants…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/23 08:38 AM
2	I complimented women out in public for the past 2-weeks and….it’s fine. When you're doing a bench press, why risk lifting the weights up if they might come crashing down? When you're going to school, why risk enrolling in a class if you might fail the final? When you're out jogging, why risk trying to go faster if you might fall and bruise yourself?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/23 07:57 AM
1	Rejection Sensitivity I'm gonna think out loud for a bit here, but I would agree and disagree. Rejection sensitivity is a thing for everyone; you can argue those who need to invest so much to find a way around it probably suffer from it more than those who don't. But men didn't just biologically change in the last couple decades to be more rejection-sensitive, it's the context around the society they live in that has changed and become unsustainable for masculinity. The truth that people don't seem to want to accept …	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/23 07:50 AM
4	Rejection Sensitivity Yes and no. If someone likes you enough, it doesn't matter if they are busy, if they are stressed, if they are taking time off dating, etc. They literally make time for you based on how much potential value they see in the relationship between you and them. I.e. if Brad Pitt just walked up to a woman and asked to take her out on a date, how likely is she to say "No thanks, I am stressed right now/I'm on a break from dating/It's not a good time./etc.?" Chances are they wouldn't, because the excus…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/23 07:06 AM
–	What exactly does it mean to be a "modern day woman," and what kind of alternative women does the RP community prefer? I'm pretty sure that's... Most human beings on Earth? Everyone likes to feel needed and useful and get validation from it. For men who are in their masculine energy, yeah, part of the validation is of their masculinity, just as for women who are in their feminine energy, part of their validation would be their femininity. But people take on more roles than just their gender; the job you work, the sports you play, the hobby you indulge, the creative art that you engage in, etc. all give you addit…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 04:30 PM
1	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. Yeah! So that's good on you. You can totally move on if you feel like you guys don't match on emotional wavelengths; I'm really just reaching at the narrative that some women push about emotional unavailability being the man's fault, and that she is being the bigger person by coercing her partner into opening up emotionally even though it's a selfish act for her to gain more leverage, security, and reassurance in the relationship. I think some of the partners that you found might be the "avoidan…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 03:14 PM
1	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. Here is my claim: When women complain that their man is not emotionally vulnerable enough and/or coerce him into opening up, there is a narrative that the woman is helping the man by having him be more in touch with his emotions, but it is actually her selfish bid for emotional reassurance and security. And here's the Litmus test: If the man is not comfortable sharing something with his partner, does the woman ever tell the man he can go and open up emotionally about something that he isn't will…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 03:01 PM
1	A major issue with the modern dating market is that immoral sexual behavior is heavily discouraged in men but either ignored or even outright ENCOURAGED in women in the modern era. Women don't "decide" not to pursue relationships with men after he's already slept with her. She already made it clear that she desired him when she agreed to let him fuck her because women are far far far more selective of their sexual partners than men are. Not to say that FWB or strict ONS situations don't happen for women on the woman's terms, but by far women receive the brunt of the emotional effects of sex via neurotransmitters that cause them to build attachment, where men release some a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 02:53 PM
1	If you don't have a big social circle, are you basically fucked when it comes to dating? Ah, so you would disagree with the statement: in order to be approached as a woman you must simply exist and go outside? Yeah, I think I already stated in other replies that I disagreed with it as an absolute, but as a comparison between men and women it's definitely in favor of women, i.e. if one man and one woman were equally passive by just existing and going outside, who will get approached more, clearly the woman will. There was another reply where I was being somewhat facetious but I think…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 02:35 PM
2	If you don't have a big social circle, are you basically fucked when it comes to dating? It's not the man's decision; if the man can be a slob and date a woman who has her life together most men would ABSOLUTELY do so. But the dating reality is that in general, women get their pick of the litter, and they tend not to choose short poor weak uneducated men to date, whereas men will absolutely date short poor weak uneducated women. I think way too much emphasis is being put on everything needing to be 50/50 in a relationship nowadays; that two partners need to be the same education lev…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 02:24 PM
2	Asking a woman how much a men should make to date her. Its always at least 200k Regular women do have relationships with regular men. Just sit at a strip mall or walk around Walmart and there are plenty of normal dudes and normal chicks holding hands or walking together. Yeah, shit sucks in dating but whoever's fault it is that we want to blame, making enough money to support children while having parents capable of spending time to raise them is increasingly becoming an impossibility. Wages stagnate while costs rise disproportionately, and it is simply untenable to have ch…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 02:09 PM
1	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. Yeah, so just make space for him to be emotionally vulnerable and let him choose to do so on his own terms. If you're going to coerce him into emotional vulnerability that would be tantamount to him coercing you into physical intimacy. The original post was really to address the fact that women wanting to be the "emotional savior" for their man isn't the noble narrative that some women try to sell it as, but rather a selfish bid for reassurance and security in their relationship. Not selfish as …	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 02:05 PM
1	If you don't have a big social circle, are you basically fucked when it comes to dating? That's understandable. I think it's kinda cruel that a lot of the things we want and need are locked behind behaviors that we don't feel is a part of who we are. And I think the feeling for men is that they aren't trying to tell women they can just walk outside and Mr. Right will immediately marry them happily ever after or something, but certainly that it's pretty clear dating is way harder for men than women. The expectations are higher for men, they need to bring more to the table, they usual…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 01:46 PM
1	A major issue with the modern dating market is that immoral sexual behavior is heavily discouraged in men but either ignored or even outright ENCOURAGED in women in the modern era. Women giving sex is not seen negatively for itself; what is seen negatively is a woman's failure to secure a relationship and commitment. Each man that she sleeps with decided not to pursue a relationship with her, and that is what the actual red flag is when it comes to high body count. If the 10 men who slept with her prior decided not to enter a long term relationship with her, there must be something wrong with her.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 12:48 PM
3	Asking a woman how much a men should make to date her. Its always at least 200k Dude, this is cap. Normal women that are just walking around in broad daylight doing normal shit don't have 200k annual salary requirements for their partners. You are watching content of drunk Miami party girls being plucked off the streets for an interview by aspiring future podcast hosts running around with a camera and microphone thinking they are gonna launch their career first as street interviewers.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 12:43 PM
3	If you don't have a big social circle, are you basically fucked when it comes to dating? No... You are literally being treated just like men get treated. If a man doesn't get dates, guys pile on and ask, "Are you fit or are you fat? What's your job and how much do you make? Do you dress well? How is your personal hygiene? Is your haircut on point? Where are you meeting women? How do you talk to women? etc. etc.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 12:40 PM
7	If you don't have a big social circle, are you basically fucked when it comes to dating? I think most men know that women don't just unilaterally have 100% of everything they want handed to them; of course men know women struggle too, everyone has some amount of struggle in life. But if we are talking romantically, it's just clear as day now in 2023 that men just have it harder than women insofar as how much options women have by just being young and not eating too much, versus men who tend to have very few options until they get some combination of their physical, financial, educat…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 12:37 PM
1	If you don't have a big social circle, are you basically fucked when it comes to dating? Making yourself available matters a lot too. If you just sit at a bar in a corner wearing plain-looking clothes with a resting bitch face, drinking with a bunch of guy friends for example, literally no one is going to approach you. But if you go to a bar by yourself or with a girl friend, you put on nice clothes with one stand-out accessory or item (shoes with a flamboyant color, necklace with a clear motif, etc.), you have a friendly demeanor, and you choose to smile at men you are interested i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 12:29 PM
3	If you don't have a big social circle, are you basically fucked when it comes to dating? It's because approaching women is villified and treated as some predatory, nefarious, or evil thing, so people stopped doing it, which means people don't learn how to do it, and so all you get are the socially unaware catcallers remaining who don't care about you. We need to teach men how to properly walk up to a woman and start talking to her in a way that makes it clear that you want to get to know her better, while navigating the many obstacles that exist -- make her feel safe, make yourself …	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 12:25 PM
3	If you don't have a big social circle, are you basically fucked when it comes to dating? Yeah, people don't realize that women still benefit immensely from having a decently good and decently wide social circle if she wants to find a decent man. Most women don't want to just get on a dating app and roll the dice; having brothers/sisters/friends/coworkers vetting people for you before you guys start dating is a really good strategy for women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 12:18 PM
2	Who is more successful in dating - the "Pick Me" girl? Or the S.I.M.P.? She's not even just physically ugly, but she feels like an ugly human being too; literally throwing her entire gender under the bus to get YouTube views. Disgusting.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 12:14 PM
1	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. You missed my point again: Women can do nothing and get something. Men cannot do nothing and get something. So yeah, my point WAS that those men aren't "doing nothing", and you're just agreeing with me; being a man means being burdened with always DOING to get what women get for free. This is only how dating works for MEN, all women have to do to get romantic prospects is to exist, be available, and don't eat so much food. And yeah, even those 13-18 year olds have to do something special -- they…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 11:23 AM
1	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. If wanting to be the priority in your partner's life is abusive, then most relationships are abusive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 10:29 AM
1	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. That is EXACTLY what is happening when a woman brings up the classic "emotionally vulnerable" situation. The woman wanting this wants it for her own good, and it is not for the good of her partner. While she may not realize it, it is in fact concerned with herself and her need to feel emotionally relied upon, and not concerned with her partner and his concern to emotionally vent. As I've stated before, if a woman really wanted to act with regards to her man, she would let him open up emotionally…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 10:50 PM
1	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. In my experience, women tend to become jealous if you spend time being emotionally close to others, especially other women, and especially if you are more emotionally vulnerable to other women than her.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 10:45 PM
1	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. It's fine to be open with your partner. As I keep stating, when a woman is pushing for emotional vulnerability, please stop treating this as if she is doing a favor for the man; she is not, and this popular narrative needs to die. This is a selfish act intended to soothe HER emotional state of insecurity and hunger for reassurance of the relationship, not to help the man become a better person. The man has agency over what makes him a better person, not the woman. Men can process things in all s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 10:40 PM
1	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. I'm quite sure that a lot of women would expect that she be the woman that her partner is the most emotionally connected to as a strong preference or even requirement for the relationship. Treating any woman who wants to be the closest one to you in a relationship as a red flag and a bullet to dodge is kinda bonkers. Would I also be trying to isolate my partner from others if I said that I am not okay with her kissing or being intimate with other men?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 10:37 PM
1	Men hug their female friends because that's the closest thing to sex they can get from them at the moment. I think this whole thread got people completely reevaluating how and why they hug lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 02:50 PM
1	Most people who complain about the other gender problem can be solved if they drop out of dating Why is living important? You just arbitrarily decided that. What if I decided that romance is important? And that a life without romance is not worth living? In which case you are basically telling me to forgo what is of paramount importance by not dating.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 02:49 PM
2	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. I do sometimes think about these things, but you also gave me great prompts to respond to so that I could think out loud more clearly. I feel like I lose way too much time to reddit, and especially this subreddit, sometimes. But at least some of the conversations feel engaging without becoming toxic and I would say this is one of them. At the end of the day, what we see on here kind of isn't real -- It's just words and thoughts, for us to entertain the idea of without having to be married to the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 02:39 PM
1	Most people who complain about the other gender problem can be solved if they drop out of dating What happens in the next 100 years if all of humanity stops eating food? Zero humans left. What happens in the next 100 years if all of humanity stops dating? Zero humans left.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 02:12 PM
1	Most people who complain about the other gender problem can be solved if they drop out of dating Eating isn't a necessity either as long as you are okay with starving. So dating is not a necessity if you're okay with being sexless and romantically unfulfilled, and if the world is okay with going extinct in one generation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 02:04 PM
1	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. The reason I say that it is selfish is because women push this narrative that emotional vulnerability is for the benefit of the man; it is not. She wants it for her own reassurance and security that she is connected to the man, and therefore is at less risk of being abandoned. It may be a positive for the man for him to be emotionally vulnerable, but that is only if the man exercises agency in choosing to be open on his own terms, NOT because he was coerced into emotionality by his insecure and …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 01:18 PM
1	Women are as creepy as men. Society just prefers to overlook their behavior. Then society has to drop the game of pretend on gender equality if we're okay with double standards being accepted prima facie.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 01:08 PM
1	Most people who complain about the other gender problem can be solved if they drop out of dating "Most people who complain about foodborne illnesses can solve their problem by no longer eating food."	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 01:06 PM
1	Does lovebombing even work when women do not like being put on a pedestal? The problem is, the act of putting someone on a pedestal makes them less attractive and less interesting.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 01:01 PM
13	Men hug their female friends because that's the closest thing to sex they can get from them at the moment. Nice cock bro. Really enjoying the vascular aesthetic.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 12:54 PM
2	Men hug their female friends because that's the closest thing to sex they can get from them at the moment. Although I do suppose the hug is different. I hug my guy friends with a handshake followed by a pull-in at the shoulders with the other arm, and two thumps on their back. I hug my female friends by pulling each others' shoulders closer with my left arm under their arm, and right arm above their arm, and then two light taps on the back.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 12:53 PM
2	Men hug their female friends because that's the closest thing to sex they can get from them at the moment. Oedipus has entered the chat.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 12:50 PM
3	Men hug their female friends because that's the closest thing to sex they can get from them at the moment. Funnily enough, since the brain doesn't feel pain, you would just slowly get dumber and dumber without realizing what's happening. So yeah, exactly like this subreddit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 12:49 PM
1	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. Healthy relationships aren't a power struggle because both sides exercise their power responsibly; the existence of the power dynamic is still there.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 12:44 PM
1	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. In real life, men who just exist do NOT have women make themselves romantically available to them. You can go onto the streets of whatever city you live in and interview any number of random men in real life that you want. I guarantee you that your legs will give out before you find a man that says "Yea, women just ask me out all the time, and I don't even have to do anything." By and large, men must improve physically, mentally, emotionally, financially, and socially in order to become better v…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 12:26 PM
1	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. So, human beings can have these things, called thoughts. Your head makes up a thing, that you can put into words, that you communicate. Thoughts aren't real; in fact all of your thoughts are made up, but they represent ideas that can be discussed. If you want to open up an English dictionary and then claim the book is worthless because all of English is made up, you would technically be correct, so be my guest! But most human beings capable of thought know what it means to entertain an idea by h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 12:18 PM
1	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. No, the WOMAN would have an issue, not the MAN. The man wouldn't think it was rude if their partner told them, "It looks like you are being bothered by something that you aren't comfortable sharing with me. I wouldn't mind if you needed some space to talk to someone other than me about whatever emotions you are experiencing if it would help you." That would be entirely one of the most therapeutic thing a girlfriend or wife could ever tell their partners.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 12:12 PM
1	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. It's such a tired "flip" to counter any point being made with "you just dodged a bullet" or some derivative thereof. Most of the relationships on planet Earth between men and women are not the socially acceptable, emotionally healthy, sexually fulfilling, financially stable, physically compatible, perfectly secure relationships that reddit thinks is the benchmark for average relationships. Almost every relationship is going to be in some way messy that requires work, and it is such a /r/relation…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 12:10 PM
2	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. I'm not disagreeing insofar as there's no disparity, but the implication seemed to be that the disparity in emotional intelligence leads to a disparity in ability to cause harm - which I hope I've argued is incorrect. I think my response would be, that I have fists, and Mike Tyson has fists. Mike Tyson being more trained in his use of his fists, means he has the ability to cause more harm with his fists than I can. Likewise, women have more practice with their emotional fists. So while we both h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 12:03 PM
3	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. Every relationship has a power dynamic. Each partner brings something to the relationship that the other doesn't have but wants, and the ability to fulfill a demand is inherently powerful on the negotiating table. You can both choose to be responsible with that power because the man understands that withholding emotions and security from the woman can be toxic, and the woman understands that withholding desire and sex from her man can be toxic. But let's not delude ourselves into thinking there …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 11:38 AM
1	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. Yes, but they don't necessarily have to share them with a woman that he is romantically involved with, whose insecurities lead her to coerce him into emotionally exposing himself without primary regard for his comfort. What I am trying to address is the fundamental selfishness of women who act this way. Not that it is BAD to want this emotional closeness, but that it should not be bought as a snake oil for helping men. Women don't want their men to open up, they want their men to open up ONLY TO…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 11:33 AM
1	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. Show me. How many men can just exist without any effort and have women make themselves romantically available to him simply by being male, at the same rate as a woman in the same situation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 11:31 AM
1	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. But that isn’t what we are talking about now. It is what I am talking about, conversations are two ways. You can concede that the evidence is absent on your end or abstain from answering though, but I won't let you slide by with false statements that you can't respond to when pressed. And I don't even know how you twisted the OP question of women's selfishness in wanting emotional vulnerability into your soapbox grandstand about TRP despite the fact that you actually know 0% of what TRP is excep…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 11:25 AM
1	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. Yes, and the major job of vetting for partners comes down to figuring out whether the person who is with you is a great partner who just hadn't run into the right person until they met you, or if they, for lack of a better turn of phrase, "belong to the streets".	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 11:15 AM
1	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. I'm happy you opened up a bit of a vulnerable space here to share the story. If you feel comfortable, I'd be curious to know more. Assessing patterns for compatibility sounds kind of vague, are you referring to communication patterns, behavioral patterns, or something else? I see some choice words here in "failed big time" and "never in the books", can you explain a bit about what these phrases mean to you in your particular experiences? What needs were you clear about that you were willing to m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 11:13 AM
1	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. No, it's not. We just have to admit that it is selfish, but selfish is not bad. What is bad though is being selfish and then lying that it is actually not selfish but selfless.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 11:07 AM
1	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. You're right. If a woman is willing for his man to open up to other people in his life instead of exclusively to her, then I can believe that she does actually have good intentions.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 11:06 AM
1	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. I think you missed the point. Telling men they need to be more emotionally vulnerable is equal to telling women they need to constantly make clear that they have desire for their man; both of these things in excess will destroy a relationship. For the woman, because the man will now be an open book to her that she can manipulate at any time, meaning he has no power in the relationship and she can't feel secure with a weak man. For the man, because if you show such exuberant desire for him withou…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 11:04 AM
2	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. Women asking men to be emotionally vulnerable is not made up.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 11:01 AM
1	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. This is where learning stoicism comes in. Your logical facilities needs to put a barrier between your feeling and your behavior. If your girlfriend purposely does something to make you angry to get a rise out of you, you do not perform the behavior that satisfies her manipulation. It's that simple; she will stop that behavior just like Pavlov's dog because you were able to have a shield between how you feel and how you act. Emotionally weak men are easy to get their buttons pressed, older and mo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 10:59 AM
2	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. Sure, a woman can have standards for how emotionally exposed their partner needs to be to them to continue pursuing the relationship. But then men get to establish standards around how much their partner desires them in the relationship as well. My main point was that women try to sell the product of "emotional vulnerability" as if it is for the benefit of the man, but the actual motive is to provide the woman with security and reassurance, not to help the man vent or process his feelings. Women…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 10:52 AM
1	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. If women made decisions logically, maybe. But they don't, because women's sexual decisions are made entirely from how they feel and then justified with rationalization afterwards.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 10:48 AM
1	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. I disagree with the part that we create problems by analysis. The problem already exists; ignorance of the problem before we analyzed it didn't make the problem not exist. And yes, I understand you want the caveat of "everybody's different maaannn" in there, and there is a place for that, but no conversation ever goes anywhere if the interjection is "everybody's different". Because while it is true on a technicality, the perspective is useless and inactionable as long as there exists 8 billion o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 10:46 AM
1	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. By far women will weaponize your emotions against you than men will. Men's power is in the physical and women's is in the emotional. And yes, you're right, you need emotional connection as well as desire for a proper relationship. What I am saying is that if a woman wants you to open up emotionally to her, that is specifically her selfish domain of wanting her half of the relationship, because the half of the relationship that the man wants is the desire from his partner. It's okay that it is se…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 10:40 AM
1	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. Sorry, I don't think I was clear enough. Every human interaction inherently has a power struggle at the bottom of it. You can choose to mask over it by having circumstances that make cooperation a viable strategy despite the power struggle, but it does not remove the foundation of the interaction. The reason this is important is because this lets you tell the difference between the effect of human nature and the effect of the institutions around them. When riots happen and police are unable to e…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 10:36 AM
1	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. Human interactions are only cooperative when the circumstances make cooperation a viable strategy. Just by looking at other cultures, you can see that people absolutely turn competitive instead of cooperative as soon as the circumstances of their environment make competition a better strategy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 09:44 AM
0	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. Yes, and when women selfishly want men to be just as open and vulnerable as they are, they're asking for something that isn't to the benefit of the man, nor the relationship. She is a concave piece asking for her man to also be a concave piece so that they can have a connection; it doesn't work. You can be emotive and open, but if you are taking the masculine role then also necessarily you will need to be the stronger and less open one, so that the one taking the feminine role can feel the freed…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 03:41 PM
-5	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. It's called Normative Male Alexithymia, you can look it up. It is clinically understood that men, as a default, have far less of a connection to their emotional inner world than women. The baseline of male emotiveness simply is provably lower than female emotiveness, and that's okay. The two sexes were not meant to be identical in every single way, because our roles are different in life.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 03:37 PM
2	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. If you hadn't already burned all your bridges at being able to convincingly pretend that you would have nearly that much empathy for men I might have believed your thinly-veiled excuse at failing to find any such post.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 03:34 PM
1	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. Stoicism means that when you have feelings, you process them. You don't pollute your own relationships with the raw substance that freeflows in your mind. Do you think Marcus Aurelius just whined day in and day out about how stressed out he was about the Germanic hordes that he had to fight off? No, he just wrote in a journal, meant for no one else's eyes, titled them humbly as "Meditations", and then he just fucking fought the Germanic hordes. That's what it means to be stoic; you have a well-a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 03:32 PM
2	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. Okay, next time I want to make a woman feel bad, I will tell her "You've been gaining weight." Just like, every single time. I'll go ahead and analyze how effective this strategy is going to be. Also, I don't know if you fully read my posts, but the claim is that a woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish, not that he should be emotionally unavailable. The man can decide to be emotional on his own terms, but inherently if a woman is pushing the man to be more emotionally vul…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 03:28 PM
3	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. I don't know what a TRP channel is, but I can tell you what TRP men repeat constantly and it's "Women, don't fall for Chad's sexuality, his popularity, or his confidence. He's going to cheat on you. Pick me, the sensitive, respectful, religious, unpopular man instead since I won't ever cheat." Can you find me an actual recently upvoted post of this? Where someone says they're red pilled and they spout this kind of garbage? I am actually so curious now if you're being truthful; if there is one I …	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 03:24 PM
-1	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. Here's the problem: Why isn't she okay with you opening up to someone else? Why doesn't your girlfriend tell you to open up to your brother, or friend, and that she's okay with spending the night alone so that you can go talk to him about it? It's because she doesn't care that you get to emotionally open up. She only cares that SHE IS THE ONE who gets to get it from you. If it wasn't selfish, why would every woman who complains about emotional vulnerability never suggest you go open up to someon…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 03:17 PM
0	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. Most people don't have to work at being who they are? Not sure what you are getting at here. What are you even talking about. If you want to become the best version of yourself, every day is non-stop work, even just to stay alive at your current level. You exercise to build up your body, you go to school to build up your mental faculities, you socialize to meet new people, you meditate to build emotional strength, you work to become financially independent, etc. Unless you think "being who you a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 03:13 PM
2	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. That's because the age of the men you are dating has also increased. If you learned to just date older men back then, you would have already found stable men to be with rather than the run-through with "idiots, fuckboys, and creeps" all of whom you decided to choose to be with instead. That is what is meant by attractive, stable, and healthy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 03:07 PM
1	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. The same place where you pulled your source for a woman opening up means a man can exploit that. The same place where you pulled your source for short-medium term relationships being the only ones where desire matters. The same place where you pulled your source for long term relationships not requiring desire. The same place where you pulled your source for emotional dishonesty lowering your probability of success to negligible in a long term relationship.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 03:04 PM
1	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. It's called intersexual competition. It exists in all sexual animal species, of which human beings are one. There are strategies for cooperation as well as strategies for defection in intersexual dynamics, and so at times you can argue the sexes can be enemies when they choose not to cooperate. And so without judgement or moralizing, you just have to look at what the fundamental transactional nature of the dynamics are.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 03:01 PM
6	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. Literally all of the manosphere content counsels men in assertiveness and stoicism. I know you like to pretend you know what TRP content even is without actually having seen any of it, but maintaining emotional stoicism while asserting yourself as a man towards your goals for you and those who depend on you is pretty basic. There's not a single TRP channel that would tell you to cast aside your stoic self and embrace emotional weakness or to discard assertiveness and connect with your feminine e…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 02:59 PM
2	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. The intent to harm is more important than depth of emotional intelligence, and damage can be done even if you're emotionally useless. I see where you're going with this, and you're right in a specific case, which are the bad boys. Normal men literally just cannot do emotional jiu jutsu on the same sparring floor as women; even if he had malintent, his ability to carry out that malintent would get him floored by the woman's lifetime of practice in the arena of automatic emotional manipulation, an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 02:55 PM
-1	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. Women don't need to try to manipulate, they just do it by nature. The same way men don't have to try to be horny, it just happens. It's kind of a crass comparison, but that is just male and female nature. When a woman learns more about you emotionally, they know what makes you happy, what makes you sad, what makes you angry, what makes you aroused, and so on. When she accidentally upsets you, and she knows backrubs make you happy, she just comes over and gives you a backrub because she wants to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 02:39 PM
2	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. Yes, mutual disclosure, each partner consenting to what they are okay with sharing, and neither side shaming the other for emotional unavailability for not sharing the way that they want their partner to share.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 02:36 PM
-3	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. It's actually rather unreasonable to expect that a man to identify himself as being "not interested in emotional sharing" just for existing at the male baseline of emotiveness. As far as he is concerned, what he does tell you IS his emotional sharing, it just isn't happening on your terms, in the way that you share emotionally as a woman (not you specifically since you're a dude, but in general towards women). This would be tantamount to asking women to disclose to men that they are not sexually…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 02:34 PM
-4	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. You know how jigsaw pieces connect, where one piece has to be convex and one piece has to be concave? It's the same idea. You can't have both pieces of the puzzle be concave and expect a connection. The role of the woman is desire and vulnerability. The role of the man is assertiveness and stoicism. That's how the pieces of the relationship fit together. Two people simultaneously being vulnerable is trying to fit together two concave pieces; they'll just fall apart.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 02:29 PM
1	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. Well, I can't argue as the imagined version of the men you are conjuring up in your mind, but I can address you as myself. Women can date chads as much as they like, the only point to keep in mind is you can't reasonably do that and simultaneously complain that they cheat or don't treat you how you want to be treated, because they're broadcasting to you that they will do exactly that by the fact that the things you find attractive about them are exactly the same traits that every other woman you…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 02:26 PM
1	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. I agree. Men need to be able to externalize their feelings to process them healthily. So while emotional and verbal activity is required for women to process their feelings, men need physical and mental activity in order to do the same. On the note of how to process, I like that you brought up being centered, because the three axes that I like to think of in terms of being able to fully pay attention to yourself and processing your feelings, is Centered, Present, and Grounded Centered - Thoughts…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 02:13 PM
1	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. It's for each person to choose how safe they want to play it, but I think a little risk here goes further than the more cynical men might realize. There is at least a small part of your inner world that you are justified in sharing with her when she earns your trust that she won't use it against you, and demonstrates her strength in being able to handle it. Whether you choose to take each little leap of faith, is completely up to you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 02:03 PM
1	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. A woman opening up emotionally risks far less than a man opening up emotionally, for the simple fact that a majority of men simply do not have the same mental wiring that women do to map out their partner's entire emotional landscape in order to learn which buttons to press. Men can literally go entire lifetimes with best friends where they still don't know basic facts about each others' lives or inner worlds, whereas women can meet a new BFF-to-be and literally by the end of the conversation th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 01:57 PM
1	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. It's pretty simple; bad boys give them a range of emotions to feel, from positive to negative. Sensitive men only give them half of the emotional range of positive reassurance, and you can't compete with someone else who can hit all the highs and all the lows, because negative feelings aren't actually bad in a relationship -- they contribute to the feelings of excitement the same way a rollercoaster needs steep climbs and high drops in order to be exhilarating.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 01:36 PM
3	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. Emotional vulnerability is to doled out gradually, possibly over years and years with each bit of trust earned, and not coerced from you and handed over on demand.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 01:33 PM
2	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. Good, you SHOULDN'T agree with everything I said. I really like looking for dualities, and so I compare things this way, but I know that maybe like 10% of what I say is probably wrong, but I just don't know which 10%. The problem with vulnerability is that it cannot be sought after. You have to give your partner space for them to step into and choose vulnerability. Too many women are choosing vulnerability FOR their men, and loss of agency in a relationship is never a good sign.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 01:29 PM
4	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. I think it's because the women that are actually physically attractive, mentally stable, and emotionally healthy have already entered relationships and aren't constantly breaking up or being broken up with, reentering the dating pool, and then finding new men to turn into cynical assholes. There are probably a bunch of other effects but this first one comes to mind.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 01:27 PM
2	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. That is certainly true. You can go anywhere from 100% cynical where you trust no one and never show your cards until they show theirs first, all the way to 100% Disneyfied romance where you fully commit to your partner in honesty and intentions and hope you run into another innocent romantic and you can begin your lifelong years of mutual honesty together. Most of real life happens somewhere in between, and I think starting from the cynical side and pushing towards the Disneyfied idea of a relat…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 01:24 PM
0	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. If the man is sharing his emotions of his own accord, that is a completely acceptable part of exploring each other. But when a man is uncomfortable with sharing emotionally, and the woman tries to pry him open for emotions, and when he does not relent, she drags him all over social media for emotional unavailability, she is basically confessing to attempted emotional coercion over the Internet but no one sees it this way. The same way that if a man wants a woman to open up sexually, and she refu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 01:21 PM
8	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. Men can show emotion, but it needs to be on his own terms, NOT on the woman's terms. The way that women try to force themselves into the emotional world of men without consideration for what the men want to show, and then when he doesn't comply with her demands, she calls him "emotionally unavailable" and entirely absolve herself of blame for the failing relationship, is absolute madness.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 01:09 PM
1	Approaching = always creepy? Depends on who says it. You just admitted yourself that people do respond to romantic and sexual attention from people they find attractive; so the solution isn't for people to stop approaching women, it's to become the kind of men that would be attractive to the women you are approaching. This is exactly what the red pill side of PPD stands for; get fit, make money, learn stocisim, get educated, make friends, and become charismatic.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 07:04 AM
1	Men who tell women “pick better men” are just telling women not to pick them. That's why YOU need a father/brothers/guy friends to discern men for you. Why would you rely on a man's own friends to discern that man for you? When you're appraising jewelry, bring your own appraiser, don't use the appraiser offered by the person you are negotiating against.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/23 11:51 AM
1	Men who tell women “pick better men” are just telling women not to pick them. Just curious, but did your father/brothers/guy friends give you input on that dude? Men are far better judges of men in my experience, especially since they aren't as emotionally invested as you are in the guy that you are having sex with.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/23 11:49 AM
–	Reading the room, knowing when and how it's appropriate to show interest, etc are skills, and like all skills, require making mistakes in order to get better. You know as well as anyone else here that when you are hot, you get WAY more leeway for what counts as creepy. The window of things that an attractive person can do without being judged as creepy has massive overlap into what an unattractive person can do and be called creepy. There's a YouTube video from awhile back floating around of a hot guy literally walking up to women and starting conversations, and then midway in he starts slipping in increasingly sexist/racist stuff into the conversatio…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/23 11:25 AM
–	Reading the room, knowing when and how it's appropriate to show interest, etc are skills, and like all skills, require making mistakes in order to get better. This is the problem with generic blue pill advice -- It's simultaneously true and unhelpful. Yes, being able to talk to everyone TECHNICALLY helps you talk to women you are attracted to, because the way you speak to everyone is about 80% identical whether it's talking to your coworker, talking to a friend, talking to your mom, talking to your teacher, 80% of the way that you use English is identical -- It's not as if English grammar is different when you go from speaking to a cashier versus spea…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/23 11:19 AM
1	Approaching = always creepy? Depends on who says it. So stop pretending like the behavior is creepy and admit that cold approach does work.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/23 07:17 AM
14	CMV „As a Man you should never be emotional/weak infront off you‘re Girl“ is one of the most brutal reality’s that a Man has to accept. This is some victim-blamey shit right here. Literally every human being has evolved over millions of years to fear being alone; that's how the limbic portion of your brain works. And yet here you are telling men that if they feel this way that they are weak. People like you are the reason why men learn to never be emotionally vulnerable or to share their true feelings -- because of unsafe people like you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/23 07:06 AM
1	Many Men don't seem to understand the difference between sexualization and sexyness This is a very common experience for every man who improved themselves. Usually it's their high school or college experience of being ignored, bullied, or treated as less-than that drives them to lift weights, eat better, make money, move up in career, learn skills, meet people, get confident, and learn charisma. Invariably, people start paying attention to you then, girls start giving you what you want, you get the opportunities you always wanted, etc. Half of you wants to rejoice in having don…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 10:00 PM
–	Double standards are valid since... men sleep with women they would never date and women sleep with men they can never date. Then isn't modern dating culture just a consequence of women renegging on the social contract? Men and women DID used to invest heavily into each other for relationships, and when women became sexually liberated they utilized their sexuality to practice optionality, which meant men needed to play the numbers game to compete with women's natural sexual advantage, and then men get demonized for being fuckboys when women have been doing the same thing with far less effort the whole time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 11:00 AM
–	Getting upset over the word toxic masculinity is weird The main issue is that it's a small subset of women who want to define what masculinity is acceptable and is not acceptable by labeling whatever they don't like as toxic, and it's just accepted at face value. Women have never and will never define healthy masculinity, men have to do that for themselves.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 10:54 AM
1	Many Men don't seem to understand the difference between sexualization and sexyness Do you think a man feels like you see him for who he truly is when he's been ignored until he finally became rich, fit, or famous? He's not subjectively different from when he was in his 20s, but now that he's established in his 30s suddenly women "see him for who he truly is?" For men, this IS being objectified, end of story.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 10:48 AM
1	Does TRP and the manosphere give relationships with age gaps a bad rep? In that case, everything J.K Rowlings posts on Twitter is verified feminist theory.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 10:30 AM
1	It's Illogical For Men on this Sub to Blame Women So what if I told you that I am not blaming either the wet paint, or the manager, and that I am explaining the situation without assigning blame? Does that change how you feel about whether I am identifying and blaming each respective thing?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/10/23 10:47 PM
1	It's Illogical For Men on this Sub to Blame Women So do these statements alone feel to you like I am identifying and blaming each respective thing?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/10/23 07:47 AM
1	It's Illogical For Men on this Sub to Blame Women I see. So if I sit down on a bench and then get up and realize my pants are stained with white paint, and I say, "Ah, the paint was wet." Does this statement alone feel to you like I am identifying the wet paint as the cause of my stained pants, and that I am blaming the paint for being wet? Or if I see my coworker walking out of his manager's office fuming, and I ask him, "How'd it go?" and he snaps back, "Shut up." and he keeps walking, making me feel dejected and I say, "Jeeze, I guess the bo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/10/23 07:03 AM
1	It's Illogical For Men on this Sub to Blame Women When you hear, for example, "Women are hypergamous.", do you only hear those three words and take it at face value, or do those words mean something in addition to only what has been said? How does the thought of, "This statement is blaming women." arise and what does it look like as it does?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/10/23 12:39 PM
1	JDBF (Just Don’t Be Fat) I wasn't asking specifically about sexual abuse, but that is one form of childhood trauma. Basically, sufficient trauma or neglect of any kind during childhood, irrespective of whether it was sexual in nature, causes brains to develop to light up way more under an MRI when consuming sugar. So a traumatized brain's experience of carbohydrate-laden foods is objectively different from a neurotypical brain's experience of the same foods.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/23 07:40 PM
3	Highly unethical advice from a semi retired man whore, that is the true one pill At that point just go work a shitty restaurant job, the higher stress the better. FOH, BOH, at the end of the day, everybody is fucking everybody.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/23 01:07 PM
1	Q4Women: If you had the chance to be reborn as a man, would you do it? Most people have a shitty time at living; in fact, a point I keep going back to is that the only meaningful strata we have is actually class -- I.e. Which families own the wealth. Gender, race, religion, culture, it's all a smokescreen for the rabble to argue amongst each other while the groups who actually control the majority of the resources in society get to exercise power.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/23 12:40 PM
1	It's Illogical For Men on this Sub to Blame Women Okay, so I gotta ask -- Are you perhaps projecting intent onto someone's comment when it states an uncomfortable truth? E.g. if I say, men are facing a loneliness epidemic and women don't care. Do you think this statement means "It's women's fault that men are lonely and they need to do something to alleviate men's loneliness."? Because the comments I read here rarely just straight up say "It's women's fault that ____".	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/23 12:33 PM
-1	The wall does exist but there are misconceptions So are you okay with starting a family with someone whose life seasons leads them to an autumn where they aren't attracted to you any more and a winter where they divorce you? People who look for stability look for stability in others as a principle, not someone who used to be wild but turned stable when it suited them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/23 09:10 AM
–	Men, how much do you care about a woman’s personality? I think this is true as well. Not in particular to marry young, but if you meet someone when they are young your first impressions definitely imprint into the future, i.e. they'll always be the "hot one" that you landed when you met them at their best. Even when you're both old and wrinkly you can think back to "...remember when...?" and they'll still be hot to you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/23 09:05 AM
1	Q4Women: If you had the chance to be reborn as a man, would you do it? I think you exchange one set of problems for another set of problems. Statistically, men's set of problems are worse (victims of violence, workplace injuries, accidents, life expectancy, suicide, rates of mental illness, accidental dismemberments, literally almost everything bad are higher for men), but men also are more biologically capable of dealing with them, so I think that makes women's problems subjectively worse (i.e. women's experience of their problems are far more traumatic and anxiet…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/23 08:58 AM
-1	The wall does exist but there are misconceptions It is. Someone who has fun when they're young and plan to settle down and have kids when older are only planning to settle down and have kids because they're no longer able to party and have fun once they get older. Their choice is informed by their disappearing options, not by their actual desire to go steady and start a family.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/23 08:51 AM
1	If a man and a woman are friends, then the man is (most likely) sexually attracted to the woman? Ignoring your feelings can work as a short term coping strategy, but a lifelong sentence of ignoring your feelings probably means you're not being your best self because the feelings that you want to ignore don't go away until you integrate them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/23 08:48 AM
1	It's Illogical For Men on this Sub to Blame Women Can we get some specific examples of woman-blaming? Maybe I'm not paying attention to where you all are, because usually the red pill perspective is "here's how the game is unfair and/or here's what you do about it". You can certainly point out uncomfortable truths about women, double standards that go unaddressed, etc. but I rarely see a red pill perspective that is "it's all women's fault and it's not my responsibility to do anything." because that runs antithetical to the point of red pill. I…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/23 08:45 AM
–	Men experience more loneliness because they don’t form any meaningful relationships in their life. Creating and nurturing meaningful relationships (romantic and platonic) requires a level of empathy. You need to be interested in the person and who they are, their thoughts, behaviours etc. You need a level of thoughtfulness and consideration to demonstrate that you appreciate they’re a part of your life. It actually doesn't -- The way men naturally socialize to build bonds is through shared challenge, cooperation, domination, and competition. This is why the strongest bonds on Earth are formed…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/23 08:34 AM
2	If a man and a woman are friends, then the man is (most likely) sexually attracted to the woman? DOZENS!	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/23 08:22 AM
1	If a man and a woman are friends, then the man is (most likely) sexually attracted to the woman? Wait, what? Don't ignore your feelings. Process them, it's just information, but you aren't obligated to act on every single feeling. Ignoring your feelings is actually the thing that makes them rule your life and relationships because inner children don't play nicely when they get ignored and they will find a way to throw a tantrum in your life.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/23 08:20 AM
4	Most women respect men with larger penises more than men with smaller ones, even if they do not prefer larger penises in a sexual context Can you imagine if you told a woman that her vagina is too loose and you want her to bring a fleshlight or she needs to learn to give better blowjobs so that you can get off? You'd be lucky if she only banshee screeched you out of the bedroom, because the expectation is that a man's orgasm is a man's responsibility and that in no universe is she accountable for it (whether due to her genitals or due to her lack of effort). You'll get blamed for death grip syndrome or pornography addiction but it…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/23 08:08 AM
2	Women don’t respect the average man? If by "respect" you mean "a basic level of human consideration", and not "adoration and/or admiration for", then I don't think men complain about women treating them in a shitty way on the daily, so I'd disagree with the prompt. What the complaint usually tends to be is social invisibility compared to women. As in women get unearned attention, both positive and negative, whereas men get no attention, neither positive nor negative. Women tend to yearn for invisibility, not realizing that a lot of…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/23 08:02 AM
1	The wall does exist but there are misconceptions The truth is, do you want someone who is settling down and wants kids because they always wanted to, or because they started losing options as they got older and life forced them to change. People don't want to invest in relationships and give 100% to partners who are "conditionally loyal", as in they are only with you because they aren't able to get what they really wanted to any more.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/23 07:50 AM
1	JDBF (Just Don’t Be Fat) No problem. Just as an addendum, did you experience significant childhood trauma or neglect? There is a significant link between the two uncovered in research, and the likely explanation is that these children have learned to self-medicate their emotions with food. Even as they grow up, this becomes their coping strategy for dealing with the mental unrest of dealing with an unpredictable world (Is mom going to yell at me today? Is dad going to beat me up like yesterday? Is grandpa going to touch…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/23 07:38 AM
6	JDBF (Just Don’t Be Fat) I think it's more general than that; I recall there being research about a link between childhood complex PTSD and compulsion towards consuming calorically-dense foods that have high glycemic indices. When you experience significant trauma in childhood and you grow up into an adult, your brain lights up way harder when eating sugar and carbohydrates than it does for adults who did not experience significant adverse childhood events (ACEs).	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/23 07:27 AM
4	JDBF (Just Don’t Be Fat) It's complicated, but there is a kernel of truth. In general, more men will find you attractive at lower weight than at higher weight. And if an argument about gender gets heated it is a really easy zinger to just say, "JDBF" to women because it is kinda technically true -- If you're not fat, almost every girl is attractive from age 18 onward until they get older; as in just by not being fat most girls will be 5/10 or above. But "JDBF" is missing so much nuance. So many things influence the weig…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/23 07:07 AM
2	It’s important to party/date/socialize in high school. Those people are more successful than the nerds who studied all 4 years. This is exactly how I felt when I asked my friend about the parties he goes to and he says he mainly finds them through Facebook. Well shit I thought one of the advantages of getting off Facebook when I was in university was to start socializing more!	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/23 06:56 AM
1	It’s important to party/date/socialize in high school. Those people are more successful than the nerds who studied all 4 years. Not entirely. You don't see meditative monks seeking enlightenment want to commit suicide en masse because of their lifestyle, so I think there is something at both ends for what makes for a good life. I think what is most important is agency; that if you live fast it is by your choice, and if you live slow that it is also by your choice. If you are living incredibly fast because it is forced on you then that's just stress. If you live slow and it is forced on you then that is just dullness.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/23 06:52 AM
1	It’s important to party/date/socialize in high school. Those people are more successful than the nerds who studied all 4 years. There's certainly something to be said about living life hard and fast versus living life on a slow burn.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/23 06:48 AM
2	Misandry and Misogyny fuel each other What does this have to do with misogyny being women disproportionately subject to gendered violence? Because you want to stratify the topic and p-hack it to being disproportionate in women's favor. Looking at the big picture in society, men always suffer objectively more than women. So the only way to keep women as the oppressed class is to specifically pick out small parts of society where women suffer so that we can focus on only that and ignore the fact that most of deaths, injuries, suicides…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/10/23 11:24 AM
3	It’s important to party/date/socialize in high school. Those people are more successful than the nerds who studied all 4 years. For us who are on the university path, we're usually either immigrants or middle class, whose parents tell us no dating no hanging out no socializing only study. Take zero risks in life and focus on how to score high on SATs, take the right extracirricular activities, volunteer at the right organizations, apply for the right scholarships, get accepted into the right university, and get a safe job off of your diploma. Because if our parents are going to sacrifice their time and money to send us t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/10/23 09:53 AM
8	Misandry and Misogyny fuel each other It depends on what you mean, but take for example violence. If we want to look at the issue of violence in society through a lens of gender equality, then we would have to dedicate our time and resources proportionally to those who suffer. But despite men being by far more frequent victims of violence, a disproportionately large amount of focus is given to women who suffer from violence. With this as a backdrop, when you argue in favor of social and cultural support for men in ways that do not d…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 09:18 PM
7	It’s important to party/date/socialize in high school. Those people are more successful than the nerds who studied all 4 years. That's true; it's basically like the FDA's 2000 calorie diet. Doesn't work for a lot of people at the margins, but a majority falls into the average so it kinda works if you aren't too different from your peers.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 08:48 PM
4	Misandry and Misogyny fuel each other I'd like to see some examples that you have seen of men treating a lack of attraction as misandry. What I see far more often is the absence of benevolent sexism towards women being treated as misogyny; in that women get so used to getting better treatment than men that its absence feels like oppression.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 06:52 PM
28	It’s important to party/date/socialize in high school. Those people are more successful than the nerds who studied all 4 years. I feel very underserved by parents, teachers, and adults who didn't teach me this lesson; that it was not the school or the grades or even the education that was important about high school or university, it was the accessory experiences along the way. In high school, it was learning to talk to people you didn't know yet, learning to get along with people that were different from you, learning to handle difficult personalities, learning to handle authority healthily, etc. And in university, it w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 06:51 PM
5	Are we men becoming intrinsically useless with modern society, thus causing our sense of showmanship to get even harder against our stakes, especially in regards to relationships? The problem is that we've also decided that the majority of male-dominated industries, the ones keeping us all alive in a civilization, are not that respectable. Jobs related to infrastructure, repair, agriculture, etc. are just not the kinds of jobs that are highly praised. Tell someone you are a random middle management position at whatever business and you will get more respect than a sewage plant worker, even though one person does paper pushing for scheduling and payroll and the other liter…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 06:39 PM
-1	Does this song change your perspective on mens mental health? Except that when men DO emotionally support each other in ways that women don't find acceptable, they call it toxic masculinity. On top of this, feminist culture is moving to increasingly remove male spaces to turn them into mixed-gender spaces. Men are increasingly losing their spaces to socialize the way men do without the judgemental eyes of feminists.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 02:44 AM
0	Does this song change your perspective on mens mental health? This is fundamentally the problem; women think that men expressing their emotions means they have to do it the way that women express their emotions. It's not that men have just stuffed their emotions down and so they ignore them or are incapable of controlling them when they come out, it's that masculine expression of emotion is fundamentally way different than feminine expression, and it's normal and expected that a woman would be uncomfortable with masculine expression -- that is why men have…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/10/23 09:10 AM
1	What percent of men are able to date casually or date without the prospect of commitment Lol PUAs do not lie about commitment, that's not their MO; you're thinking of fuckboys.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/10/23 07:55 AM
5	Men are wanting women they don't measure up to and women are getting tired of dealing with it which is the main cause of issues between them. You just answered your own question; if her dream is to invent the cure for cancer, and it's important to her, then by extension it can be important to me. If her dream is to fold artisan paper airplanes to sell on Etsy, and it's important to her, then by extension it can be important to me. A man generally isn't going to be more attracted to you because you've made a name for yourself in the world of oncology pharmaceuticals or less attracted to you because you make aerodynamic origami for reta…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/10/23 10:01 AM
3	A thought about male empowerment vs female empowerment. He was a skater boy She said, "See you later, boy" He wasn't good enough for her Now he's a super star Slammin' on his guitar Does your pretty face see what he's worth?	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/10/23 09:34 AM
–	Are young men seen as less desirable than their female counterparts because society tends to equate youth with femeninity? You can try to turn this into a personal attack, but you are just straight up wrong, and I don't know how to make it any clearer to you than this. From the 2020 Annual Social and Economic Supplement of the Current Population Survey conducted by the US Census Bureau, only 4.2% of the US population between the ages of 20 to 29 is making six figures or more -- and this is by far the biggest filter. If you want to further filter for physique, 36% of the population is obese with a BMI that is above 3…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/10/23 08:19 AM
–	In my experience women don't care what you have to say and they are generally not genuinely interested in anything you are unless it aligns with them. How many women watch WNBA versus how many women watch NBA?	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/23 06:36 PM
–	Guys can meet women pretty much anywhere. And every man knows that all the women he crosses paths with will have no concept of love or loyalty, and that their entire purpose in life is to rob men of their money, their power, and their space. Every woman purposely deceives every man she lays eyes on, just biding her time luring men into her trap. Then, she will patiently wait for the day he puts the ring on her so she can take half of his entire life's work; rinse and repeat. She is capable of this because every single woman a man meets …	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/23 06:22 PM
–	Guys can meet women pretty much anywhere. Well see that there's the problem -- You're already prejudged the person you haven't even gotten to know yet as someone whose agenda you have 100% foreknowledge of. I don't expect that I know much about anyone who I walk up and talk to or that walk up and talk to me; much less that I know if they are trying to sell me a used car, or are trying to convert me to their religion, or that they want me to buy a timeshare. Once they show themselves otherwise based on their behavior and speech then I wi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/23 08:34 AM
1	Are young men seen as less desirable than their female counterparts because society tends to equate youth with femeninity? Alright buddy, I don't know where you live where men in their 20s have time to work on their businesses or build strong careers to make multi-6 figures while working out at the gym regularly with a well-maintained diet/sleep schedule and committing to seeing a good therapist and/or meditating/journaling daily while putting in the work to maintain good relationships with their friends and families by spending time socializing with them as well as developing their charisma while learning relevant …	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/23 08:26 AM
1	Are young men seen as less desirable than their female counterparts because society tends to equate youth with femeninity? If you're living in a world where every man in their 20s is just handed a chiseled body, mind of steel, wealth of experience, a cadre of friends, a dream career, and is an Adonis in bed then I guess we should all immigrate to their fantasy land where all male problems are solved. Oh boy, do I have news for you about that lol. The attention goes on well after 25 lmao Depends on the country. For Japan the cutoff is 25, any woman over that age is considered a "Christmas cake", since no one wants to…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/23 07:48 PM
1	Are young men seen as less desirable than their female counterparts because society tends to equate youth with femeninity? This is not what people are claiming, that men get at 35 for free what women get at 18 for free. If you were born a woman, all you need to do is turn 18 and you can instantly go out there and be hot. But the reason why people say dating works better for men after 30 is because the things that men are valued for take SO LONG to build up, that it is unfeasible to believe a man in their 20s is going to be physically fit, mentally strong, emotionally stoic, financially secure, socially connected, an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/23 11:03 AM
1	Guys can meet women pretty much anywhere. They aren't telling you this because they think not approaching will get you laid more lol. I think it's important to keep in mind that when women tell you what to do, it actually has nothing to do with what's in your best interests, because generally women don't give a shit about you as a man. So yes, take what they say into consideration, but almost never do you want to actually just follow what women say you should do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/23 10:55 AM
2	Guys can meet women pretty much anywhere. The species would go extinct because women will never approach first often enough to generate enough relationships to replace the human beings that are dying out.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/23 10:53 AM
1	Guys can meet women pretty much anywhere. That just depends on your perspective. If you are looking at it as, "Wow that was insane, I actually DID just walk up to a girl and show that I was interested in her. It didn't work out but I'm one rejection closer to finding the one." then you'll probably feel pride and excitement instead. After all, you are just filling up an experience bar; no one expects to level up on the first mob that they defeat. And that's the power of learning game; you realize that no one is ever actually rejecting yo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/23 10:50 AM
3	Guys can meet women pretty much anywhere. This is the wrong frame to look at it through. No good cold approacher is going in to talk to women in a way that annoys her. At worst she is apathetic, but the point is always to aim for building a positive emotional experience for both of you, and at the very least to try to have her leave feeling flattered for the compliment of approaching her even if it doesn't work out.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/23 10:47 AM
1	Guys can meet women pretty much anywhere. This is why you ignore women when they try to tell you what the rules are, because the only rule is that women break the rules for men they are attracted to.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/23 10:43 AM
3	In an age where you’re damned if you try to get sexual too quickly and damned if you stay platonic for too long, what’s the best approach? It's not a conscious effort, but you basically have to treat these things that women do either personally or societally as a shit test. Women telling men not to approach them? This just filters out the weak men who would take dating advice from women, ensuring that these men won't talk to the women they want to meet. Women telling men to date their age? This just filters out men who fear judgement from entering relationships with women they find attractive who aren't settling for them after she'…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/23 10:40 AM
17	For those that have a girlfriend, how would you describe her views on gender issues? The one that really gets me is that men's value is from provision, and so you get indifference otherwise. Women lament that they are only valued for their sexuality and the attention they receive from it. But imagine being a man, whose default is invisibility, and the only way to get by in the world is to bring value to others. But now that people do want your attention, you absolutely know it's because of what you provide and not because of you. You know this because the same people that didn't…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/23 10:33 AM
1	Online negative about relations lowers the bar for men and encourages "nice guys" ? In general, there are far more women for whom low-probability cautionary tales turn into anxious behaviors for lived reality. Despite society being safer than it's ever been, by and large women are still far more fearful of everything in the world than statistically makes sense, and I think a lot of it is owed to sharing stories of "worst case scenarios". A woman has far more to fear from heart disease and cancer, or unintentional injuries or traffic accidents, than she does of strangers attacki…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/23 10:39 PM
1	Women do get rejected by men Blaming women and talking about women they hate is incel bullshit. The manosphere IS the support group, and I'm assuming you are referring to when men share perspectives on how women actually behave, because that is when some feminist or blue piller always chimes in to invalidate. For example, just because a man advises another man, "Don't just listen to her words, pay attention to how she behaves." doesn't mean they hate women -- it just means that the observation is that women can say one thin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/23 10:29 PM
1	Women do get rejected by men Alright so I would believe this probably if it was on a different sub. This is just the most disingenuous thing I’ve read tbh. Look, you want women to empathize and sympathize? Then act like it. Follow your own advice and maybe men should post things like “there’s a loneliness epidemic”. Lol men DO post about it. And when they do, inevitably a woman comes in and says, "There is LITERALLY nothing women can do about this. Men should just learn to do better. If they're so starved for romance why do…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/23 10:20 PM
1	I am convinced that many women treat men like kings to entice them into marriage and then expect them to be different after marriage and kids No, the woman changed what the responsibilities were. The man could be content to leave dishes to soak in the sink, and wash them all at night before he sleeps. But once the woman moves in, that becomes TikTok content for "men need to do better."	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/23 09:43 PM
1	I am convinced that many women treat men like kings to entice them into marriage and then expect them to be different after marriage and kids They probably do take basic care of themselves; it's that a woman entered their lives who suddenly decided that the meaning of self-sufficiency had to change to suit her.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/23 09:42 PM
6	In my experience women don't care what you have to say and they are generally not genuinely interested in anything you are unless it aligns with them. Uhh... Sorry to break it to you, but even women have little interest in women's sports.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/23 01:06 PM
7	I am convinced that many women treat men like kings to entice them into marriage and then expect them to be different after marriage and kids I mean, weren't these men self-sufficient for years before they met their wives?	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/23 01:01 PM
2	If you think sex is damaging to women or causes them to lose their “value,” isn’t it lowkey kind of predatory to pursue sex with women? The circumstances that are forced upon a man is that it is his responsibility to choose to be charismatic to as many women as he can meet if he wants to be as romantically successful as possible. If a woman chooses to respond to his advances, then she has also made her choice. And if they both consent to sex, then that's the price of admission for her to have a chance with him by showing him that she is a good partner to commit to. Whether or not she fails to demonstrate long-term relationship v…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/23 04:57 AM
5	What to do with the libido gap? Ladies, start pegging your men to build emotional intimacy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/23 01:56 AM
3	Women do get rejected by men PPD is supposed to be red pill beliefs and blue pill beliefs. Black pill and incel content is actively moderated against and banned, and we do see a lot of comment removals for being incel-adjacent. I feel like there's way too much confusion about the differences, I'll do my best to explain them here. Basically for black pill and radical incel ideology, their central tenet is that they want to have sex but cannot get sex and all of the fault lies in someone other than the incel. It's either gene…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/10/23 01:46 PM
2	"Everyone's entitled to their own preferences" only became a thing when women's superficial standards for men became undeniable and widely known. And today, people still judge men more harshly for having standards. Just as soon as women stop pretending to be victims.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/10/23 12:29 PM
–	Today a London schoolgirl was murdered for refusing to go out with her classmate It's too bad for you then that men outperform women in every metric with firearms as well.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/10/23 12:29 PM
2	Women do get rejected by men I want to say that it is more complicated than my analogy, and I can see how you would feel rejected, but the prices are the guy's boundaries and expectations for progressing to each stage of the relationship. If you aren't putting 15 dollars on the table, they aren't going to serve you the cheeseburger combo. You can possibly offer alternate forms of payment, go to another store where cheeseburger combos are 5 dollars, or just put more money on the table. But if the reality is that those are hi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/10/23 01:35 AM
2	Women do get rejected by men If you want to set your bar at "marriage or nothing" as the gauge for success, do you want to explore what the positives are for a guy to propose marriage? Like, what does the guy get out of it?	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/10/23 01:27 AM
1	Women do get rejected by men When a man experiences a roadblock and shares his experience of the issue, he is actually just looking for validation for his observation of the problem. What usually happens instead is people not listening to him and going into projection-mode, mostly from women who slippery-slope his intentions. Most of the time we don't want you to change anything; just stop invalidating men's observations that are plain for the eye to see. "There is a male loneliness epidemic." Doesn't mean "Women need to be…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/10/23 01:21 AM
3	Women do get rejected by men Whenever men want to have a conversations about the inequalities of intersex dynamics, why do so many people immediately jump to projecting so hard? Guys be like, "Women have it easier than men when it comes to attracting partners relative to effort spent." And people come out of the woodworks like "Oh so you think men should have state-sanctioned forced marriage bangmaids assigned to them?" Or something ridiculous. By and large, men generally don't feel "entitled" to sex or to women outside of …	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/10/23 12:52 AM
2	Women do get rejected by men If you walk into a store with 5 dollars and order a cheeseburger combo, but they tell you that it costs 15 dollars and offer you a large order of fries instead for 5, they aren't rejecting you, they're just letting you know their prices.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/10/23 12:23 AM
4	If women can stay single for as long as they desire (as many women claim) then why don't single mothers abstain from dating men until their kids turn 18? I'm running a Closed Beta Test of a new Cognitive Behavioral Therapy technique in which we utilize Cock and Ball Torture.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/10/23 12:04 AM
1	A few of my observations in the medical field as a guy with the male/female ratio being 1:10 Dude, if you don't think having a multi-six figure income is high status, you really need to get checked.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/09/23 07:25 AM
2	45% of men age 18-25 have never approached a woman in person People are insane if they think approaching women don't work. Do you have no male friends who go clubbing, partying, or bar hopping? They definitely approach women and most people do not go 300 approaches with 0 results.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/09/23 03:26 AM
0	Today a London schoolgirl was murdered for refusing to go out with her classmate Then men don't owe a feeling of safety to random women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/09/23 03:10 AM
1	Women's preferences in men wont allow us to reckon with toxic masculinity anytime soon Feminism presumes that masculinity has portions of it that are inherently toxic. It defines toxic as any manifestation of masculinity that makes women uncomfortable. This is an untenable definition because masculinity is adaptive, and healthy masculinity must at times bring its shadow into the open. This necessarily makes women uncomfortable when they witness it, but healthy masculinity cannot be defined by women or their sensibilities because they necessarily do not participate in the experienc…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/09/23 09:06 AM
–	How come "nice girls finish last" isn't as popular of a saying? Then you would be an outlier from the usual female experience, since it's rare to find a woman who isn't overweight in her 20s but is still ugly enough to get no attention. That's okay though, you can sit together with the majority of men, for whom this IS the usual experience. 👀	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/09/23 08:59 AM
0	"Everyone's entitled to their own preferences" only became a thing when women's superficial standards for men became undeniable and widely known. And today, people still judge men more harshly for having standards. Because that's my opinion. Values should be shared in a relationship, ergo it would be bizarre to seek someone with values you do not uphold yourself. Material assets and physical traits don't need to be shared for a relationship to work, but values do. Except that by your logic, material assets and physical traits DO represent values. Someone who doesn't have a lot of money probably does not value moderation in spending, or financial planning, or saving for the future. Someone who isn't physica…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/09/23 08:42 AM
0	"Everyone's entitled to their own preferences" only became a thing when women's superficial standards for men became undeniable and widely known. And today, people still judge men more harshly for having standards. Men need sex to build emotional connection, women need emotional connection to have sex. Men are aroused visually, women are aroused mentally. Male sexuality is proactive, female sexuality is reactive. Men value chastity, agreeableness, and gentleness in women. Women value ambition, confidence, and strength in men. In the context of a relationship, when men are faced with stress, they generalize. When women are faced with stress, they get more and more specific. This is why arguments happen in r…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/09/23 08:16 AM
-1	"Everyone's entitled to their own preferences" only became a thing when women's superficial standards for men became undeniable and widely known. And today, people still judge men more harshly for having standards. Firstly, why are you making a special exception for material assets for physical traits? That's just a special pleading fallacy. Secondly, it's clearly not the case that body count only reflects a person's values towards sex -- A man can have very liberal values towards sex, and still get no sex, because no one wants to sleep with him. A woman can have conservative values towards sex, and still end up having a lot of sex because she has insecure attachment and is attracted to fuckboys. Your prim…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/09/23 07:43 AM
1	"Everyone's entitled to their own preferences" only became a thing when women's superficial standards for men became undeniable and widely known. And today, people still judge men more harshly for having standards. On a personal level, the power move is indeed to judo yourself out of direct arguments with women that give you no reward. But on a societal level, this collective evasiveness around telling women the truth is enabling a mass gendered delusion for women to believe that they are literally capable of everything a man can do because they are equal to men, and even if the physical evidence in the world of sports.is staring at them in the face, they will always claim social vidtimhood for why women w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/09/23 12:31 AM
6	"Everyone's entitled to their own preferences" only became a thing when women's superficial standards for men became undeniable and widely known. And today, people still judge men more harshly for having standards. Ugly women literally exist on the same plane of recognition as normal every day men: invisible. Fairness feels like oppression when you get used to expecting privilege. You don't get to have free attention just for having a vagina.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/09/23 12:26 AM
0	"Everyone's entitled to their own preferences" only became a thing when women's superficial standards for men became undeniable and widely known. And today, people still judge men more harshly for having standards. It's easy for most acceptable looking men to sleep around too. There is no bracket on the rating scale at which a man will have an easier time sleeping around than a woman in the same rating. I.e. a 6/10 woman can sleep around easier than a 6/10 man, a 10/10 woman can sleep around easier than a 10/10 man, etc. As for the 5'4 chick, people might poke fun at her too. The height difference is literally some comical shit. Basically no one seriously makes fun of a shorter woman being with a taller ma…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/09/23 12:20 AM
-1	"Everyone's entitled to their own preferences" only became a thing when women's superficial standards for men became undeniable and widely known. And today, people still judge men more harshly for having standards. I feel like I'm treading old ground, but if you think a man deserves ridicule for holding a woman to chastity when he is not chaste, do women deserve ridicule if they expect to have a man who is richer when she is poorer? A man who is taller when she is shorter? A man who is stronger when she is weaker? Does a person have to embody the same traits that they find attractive in a partner?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/09/23 12:12 AM
1	Why women come to r/PurplePillDebates ? Are there any issues where men required advocacy, and feminism actually advocated for men? Like, in a way that actually benefits men on men's terms?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/09/23 07:10 PM
1	Why women come to r/PurplePillDebates ? So if there is a social issue where equality requires advocacy for men, what does your brand of feminism propose to do?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/09/23 06:54 PM
4	How come "nice girls finish last" isn't as popular of a saying? Most women in their early 20s are going to be generally attractive as long as they aren't overweight.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/09/23 09:42 PM
1	Women's preferences in men wont allow us to reckon with toxic masculinity anytime soon Dismissing the entire concept of god is different from attacking christianity. Which you COULD do. You can criticize religion as an institution without attacking christians specifically. You could, but it wouldn't make sense to accept that proposition. Why wouldn't I question the underlying illogic of a non-existent deity that serves as the entire cornerstone to your untenable beliefs about the world, as well as the entire grifting institution that you have constructed atop this imaginary founda…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/09/23 08:35 AM
-4	"Insecure" and "Controlling" are the new buzzwords used to shame men's standards and gaslight them into believing normal boundaries are toxic. CMV. Men aren't accountable? Who do you think pays the price when men choose shit women? THE MEN PAY IT. Half the house, child support, alimony, suicide, whole nine yards. Women get far more sympathy regardless of whether they were the toxic one in the relationship, and no one holds women accountable for any of their toxicity because feminine toxicity is so much more insidious, hidden, and non-physical. Lying, manipulating, gossiping, spreading rumors, cattiness, nagging, literally everything women d…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/09/23 03:02 AM
1	"Insecure" and "Controlling" are the new buzzwords used to shame men's standards and gaslight them into believing normal boundaries are toxic. CMV. I'm being ridiculous because she's being ridiculous; we know she's not going to be okay with not making money so her man can control the finances, she isn't going to be okay with not sleeping around, she's not going to be okay with literally any of what traditional implies, and yet still go off on the idea of commitment as if it's some medieval ask inside of a relationship.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/09/23 02:25 AM
-5	"Insecure" and "Controlling" are the new buzzwords used to shame men's standards and gaslight them into believing normal boundaries are toxic. CMV. I mean, all of that is gonna be kinda hard to do if beating your wife is going to be legal again, but hey you let me know how far "traditional" we're going back until it gets ridiculous, because apparently you want to keep all the positives of societal progress without any of the accountability for women if "commitment" is enough to set you off.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/09/23 02:22 AM
-7	"Insecure" and "Controlling" are the new buzzwords used to shame men's standards and gaslight them into believing normal boundaries are toxic. CMV. You want a traditional woman? Pay all of the bills, put a ring on it, and don't expect sex before the wedding. Easy, take women back out of the workplace so our wages can double due to supply and demand of labor, so that women can do domestic work again without expecting the husband to 50/50 the housework after a 12 hour shift, and ban contraceptives so women can't sleep around without consequence. Simple as.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/09/23 02:10 AM
-4	"Insecure" and "Controlling" are the new buzzwords used to shame men's standards and gaslight them into believing normal boundaries are toxic. CMV. No, depending on the circumstances of the relationship it may be totally reasonable. If a woman is pregnant or just had a kid, the expectation should be that the husband put a bit of a pause on his boys nights when necessary. If your husband is going to a party and it turns out they're going to be hiring strippers, it's reasonable to expect that he changes his plans about going. I feel like only women can get away with arguing that she should have absolute freedom to be and do whatever she wants…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/09/23 01:53 AM
8	"Insecure" and "Controlling" are the new buzzwords used to shame men's standards and gaslight them into believing normal boundaries are toxic. CMV. Then women REALLY need to stop complaining about a lot. If you date a guy who didn't clean up after himself before you got together, it's controlling to want them to change now. If he wasn't emotionally open when you met, it's controlling to want them to change now. If they weren't the perfect lover your first time together, it's controlling to want them to change now. Your solution is basically that everyone should break up with everyone if any change is ever expected inside of a relationship.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/09/23 01:46 AM
–	"lock a man down in your 20s" is illogical advice You are basically outing yourself as being ego-driven and unable to grow as a person, and I don't think it is as positive of a trait as you think it is that you have dogmatic certainty in everything despite being exposed to new experiences every day.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/09/23 01:35 AM
4	"Insecure" and "Controlling" are the new buzzwords used to shame men's standards and gaslight them into believing normal boundaries are toxic. CMV. Someone saying "I don't want to date women who have slept around." is pretty different from "Women with more than X number of past sexual partners are worthless whores!".	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/09/23 01:24 AM
9	"Insecure" and "Controlling" are the new buzzwords used to shame men's standards and gaslight them into believing normal boundaries are toxic. CMV. If you get into a relationship with someone who swipes on Tinder, and then want them to change their behavior, yes its controlling.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/09/23 01:18 AM
3	"Insecure" and "Controlling" are the new buzzwords used to shame men's standards and gaslight them into believing normal boundaries are toxic. CMV. I think the crux is, why do female standards get so much less shaming and scrutiny when announced compared to male standards?	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/09/23 01:17 AM
-2	"Insecure" and "Controlling" are the new buzzwords used to shame men's standards and gaslight them into believing normal boundaries are toxic. CMV. Is someone forcing women to be in relationships with men who are abusive? Or emotionally unavailable? Or cheaters? Should we stop shaming abusive toxic cheaters too because women should be as responsible as men when it comes to choosing men who are not what they want in a partner? Are other people's opinions stopping her? Or is this a other one of a million societal responsibilities that only men have to shoulder but women don't have to be accountable for?	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/09/23 01:15 AM
5	"Insecure" and "Controlling" are the new buzzwords used to shame men's standards and gaslight them into believing normal boundaries are toxic. CMV. Do people realize that when they agree to relationships, that entails change? For example, if I used to swipe on Tinder when I'm single, a reasonable boundary may be that I stop swiping on Tinder once I enter a relationship.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/09/23 01:01 AM
4	Do you think it’s true that dating gets easier for men and harder for women in their 30s? So why does this subreddit keep getting flooded with threads about age gaps and women who shame men for doing it if men aren't dating younger and women dating older?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/09/23 08:37 AM
1	CMV : Refusing to change to attract women out of some sort of principle is only holding you back and not proving a thing to anybody The problem is that you even think you have an authentic self; it's a lie your ego is telling you. You aren't the same you from 5 years ago and the you 5 years from now will be a different you as well. Your only choice is if you want the you 5 years from now to change into a self that is more attractive to women, or to "just be yourself" and stay the same.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/09/23 07:20 AM
2	N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD And a real woman doesn't go ho'ing around in her 20s.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/09/23 07:16 AM
1	Do you think it’s true that dating gets easier for men and harder for women in their 30s? Isn't that why men date younger as they age?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/09/23 07:07 AM
–	Pick-up artistry is faking emotional connection to get casual sex It's not about faking anything, it's about being able to draw out a side of yourself that the person in front of you will respond to. I feel like your perspective is too stuck on thinking you yourself are a monolith; as if there is only one way you can act to be genuinely yourself. But the way you act in front of your mother, the way you act in front of your friends, and the way you act in front of your lover are all undeniably different and yet still undeniably the real you. This is what it mea…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/23 11:31 AM
2	Best way to bag as a guy? Have a lot of friends/friend groups I believe it is in fact the majority in modern times. People basically just go through the motions of life on autopilot, and that's actually what I like about randomly starting conversations with people. That moment when you realize you broke someone out of their automation and they smile and you have a conversation, it's kind of magical. There was this one doctor who had a really stressed look on her face as she was speedwalking out of the emergency room, and I just instinctively said to her, "…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/23 09:24 AM
1	Women's preferences in men wont allow us to reckon with toxic masculinity anytime soon I don't think you are applying reasonable constraints. I'm an Atheist and if a Christian came up to me and asked me to specifically critique theology and Christian apologetics without dismissing the entire concept of God, I would not accept that proposal -- Because the concept of God itself has to be questionable or else you're just commiting a special pleading fallacy, as you would be with toxic masculinity, because the concept of toxic masculinity itself is constructed on false premises.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/23 07:43 AM
1	The age gap in relationships is fine and should not be demonized. Clearly the point of contention for women arguing against this is having to come to terms with the fact that the advances are NOT unwanted, that the younger woman IS providing her consent. If the advances were unwanted, then they wouldn't be in a relationship with the older man. Unless you're trying to argue DiCaprio's girlfriends are all rape victims?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/23 07:36 AM
1	Women's preferences in men wont allow us to reckon with toxic masculinity anytime soon How would you like people to disagree with the premise underlying "toxic masculinity" without you feeling like you are attacking them?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/23 07:30 AM
0	The age gap in relationships is fine and should not be demonized. I think there's two different groups - One group are the women aged 30+ who are running out of options and falsely attribute fault to men who date younger, and the other group are the younger SJWs who jump onto it as a matter of course for being in support of feminism.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/23 07:23 AM
2	The age gap in relationships is fine and should not be demonized. So do all of Leonardo DiCaprio's girlfriends -- Does anyone actually think those women are retarded? Like they're not using Leo for his wealth, fame, clout, and connections?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/23 07:19 AM
1	Anyone here regularly visit sex workers? NO ONE who is working is making a choice; capitalism exists and so we capitulate to survive. I wouldn't be working either if I had a choice not to starve without a job.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/23 07:15 AM
2	CMV: Women have nothing to gain from dating men, but everything to lose Society doesn't tell women to want men, biology tells women to want men, and your trauma doesn't reflect on everyone else's experience. Most women enjoy the company of men, being in the world of someone who is a polar opposite of her but still sharing commonalities, being in the presence of masculine energy feels just as good for a woman as being in the presence of feminine energy for a man, and there are so many emotional doors in your brain to all sorts of experiences that your female friends …	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/23 07:12 AM
3	Best way to bag as a guy? Have a lot of friends/friend groups I think it's because the social aspect of self-improvement is the only one that necessarily requires other people, and how others respond to you relies on all of the other aspects (physical, mental, emotional, and financial). If you want to get jacked, you can just go to the gym and lift or have a home setup. If you want to build up your skills you could watch YouTube tutorials or study online courses. If you want to build a stoic mind you can meditate and practice mindfulness. If you want to ac…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/23 06:59 AM
2	Best way to bag as a guy? Have a lot of friends/friend groups Definitely. Human beings used to just get socialized as a course of necessity, but now the world makes socializing optional and a lot of people are falling off and not learning those skills, which interestingly also means that being just a little charismatic and a little bold already puts you way ahead of the average person. So take a risk and talk to that person, get out of your head and engage; the difference between a stranger and a friend or more can potentially just be a "Hey." I feel like …	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/23 06:49 AM
1	“Just Be Yourself” and other passive platitudes about dating Don't just take what she says at face value, but pay attention to her behavior.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/09/23 03:09 AM
1	I feel like the red pill teaches the right things for the wrong reasons TRP teaches men what women actually respond to. Because if it didn't work, then you wouldn't pass the information along. If you think it ends up being toxic, then that's a result of women responding to toxicity.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/09/23 02:49 AM
–	Being with an average male is not special I dislike this sentiment so much, that everybody is one and the same, no matter how you look, what your background is, what upbringing you had, etc. everyone is just normal humans. But then Hitler was just a normal human too, so the point being made for being a normal human is pretty much null.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/09/23 01:17 PM
1	I feel like the red pill teaches the right things for the wrong reasons I think it's an important transition point, even if you don't intend on being a "getting bitches and spinning plates" kind of guy. Learning "this is what women say they like, but this is what women actually respond to", being able to see what is actually possible in a man-to-woman interaction (i.e. saying and doing things that people tell you not to say or do to women, but women actually respond positively to), learning to have an abundance mindset from having optionality -- All of these things …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/09/23 12:53 PM
–	For those that worry about being the “best she ever had”… In the context of a relationship, every man who has been through their bluepill phase has already learned that the emotional alone does not matter to her unless you are meeting her physical and sexual requirements; this is why men focus on them; i.e. fitness, wealth, charisma, and sex. Women don't care about how loving you are, how good of a boyfriend you are, and how emotionally fulfilling you are, if you aren't an acceptable combination of attractive, rich, charming, and/or skilled. For as muc…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/09/23 12:34 PM
4	Women's preferences in men wont allow us to reckon with toxic masculinity anytime soon That's like asking a Christian to crack open the Bible; a majority of feminists today likely have also not read through works from feminist academics.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/09/23 09:46 AM
1	Q4M: do you find women only transport offensive? It is technically a sexist solution, but it is also a sexist problem. It's a band aid fix at best, but with the pace that Japanese culture moves at you'll be dead before the culture shifts towards addressing the mental states of lonely men and the harm to vulnerable women, but that is what needs to happen.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/09/23 08:53 PM
2	Most men simply want women at or even slightly below their level of attractiveness, or just one who isn’t overweight. Most women feel entitled to men way more attractive than them and meet a whole laundry list of criteria. The whole “neckbeard wants supermodel” narrative is fictional projection. I don't think you understand -- All women over the age of 20, has been 20 years old -- That is not a "narrow group" of women; that means 100% of women have been at their most attractive to men. Which means what you are complaining about is that the age group isn't wider for each individual woman who WAS attractive, i.e. women waste their years of youth and fail in their romantic aspirations despite being at peak attractiveness. Men do NOT have this advantage of being able to simply "be" a certai…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/09/23 01:40 AM
2	Women (most of the time) are REPULSED by inexperienced men. This is the classic blue pill fallacy -- "I don't need to attract all women, I just need to attract one." The problem is, how often do romantically successful men actually attract only ONE woman? If you are only able to attract ONE woman, then every person you meet will only have a one in 4 billion chance of being your soul mate. If you have the things that attract one woman, what is the likelihood that those things also attract OTHER women? Or do you think every woman is a unique snowflake in w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/09/23 11:38 PM
1	Women (most of the time) are REPULSED by inexperienced men. Depends on what level you are interacting with them at. Of course, just treating them at the workplace as a coworker for example, you can get by without having to consider their gender very much if you keep things strictly professional. But the reality is, if you know how to treat them well as women, you are just going to get way more help at work, they'll help you advance your career, they'll help you cover shifts, they'll help you meet their friends, etc. So even if you don't intend on dating …	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/09/23 11:27 PM
1	Most men simply want women at or even slightly below their level of attractiveness, or just one who isn’t overweight. Most women feel entitled to men way more attractive than them and meet a whole laundry list of criteria. The whole “neckbeard wants supermodel” narrative is fictional projection. What are you talking about? This conversation is now basically, "Some men are just never going to be attractive to women until the day they die, while all women will be attractive to men at least from their late teens into their twenties, but women want to be attractive for longer."	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/09/23 11:07 PM
1	Women arbitrarily choose 25 as the age they're comfortable with any age gap, because they know that's the point when women's value starts to decline. It's not a moral superiority issue, it's their own fear of being replaced as they age. Of course the draft is a gendered issue. Making conscription mandatory for woman wouldn't right that wrong, In the same way that encouraging harsher sentencing and mass incarceration of women wouldn't be correct, either. Instead we shouldn't be making anyone sign up for the draft, and affording non-violent male offenders similar leniency that women appear to be afforded by the justice system. So it appears your stance is "If there is a gendered problem, then the answer is to address the larger l…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/09/23 11:00 PM
2	Most men simply want women at or even slightly below their level of attractiveness, or just one who isn’t overweight. Most women feel entitled to men way more attractive than them and meet a whole laundry list of criteria. The whole “neckbeard wants supermodel” narrative is fictional projection. ??? Are there women who don't age to 18-22 and just skip straight from 17 to 23? Because then it seems like men DO find average women attractive, but you aged out of your attractiveness and are complaining that you didn't find a guy to commit before then. Or is it when you say "average women" you are including every woman on earth from age 18 to age 122?	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/09/23 10:23 PM
0	Most men simply want women at or even slightly below their level of attractiveness, or just one who isn’t overweight. Most women feel entitled to men way more attractive than them and meet a whole laundry list of criteria. The whole “neckbeard wants supermodel” narrative is fictional projection. Exactly, so it's just average men going for average women. What's the problem?	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/09/23 09:40 PM
2	Most men simply want women at or even slightly below their level of attractiveness, or just one who isn’t overweight. Most women feel entitled to men way more attractive than them and meet a whole laundry list of criteria. The whole “neckbeard wants supermodel” narrative is fictional projection. But are those 18-22 year olds average attractiveness for 18-22 year olds?	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/09/23 08:10 PM
5	Women (most of the time) are REPULSED by inexperienced men. No it doesn't and no it shouldn't be, but teaching men how to interact with 50% of the planet's human beings is a pretty useful skill to have.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/09/23 07:02 AM
11	Women (most of the time) are REPULSED by inexperienced men. Yeah, that's the difference. If you are attractive, you will be inexperienced at a time when no one has expectations of you to be experienced. But if you are unattractive, you will be at an age where you are expected to be experienced but you aren't.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/09/23 05:31 AM
23	Women (most of the time) are REPULSED by inexperienced men. If you're attractive you probably aren't gonna be inexperienced.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/09/23 03:29 AM
3	Women (most of the time) are REPULSED by inexperienced men. Absence of food is harmful.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/09/23 03:28 AM
1	Its almost impossible to have a decent discussion that leads to something on this sub because of a lack of reading comprehension and being contrarian. We get the opposite too; you say "women tend to like taller men" and one person chimes in with one anecdote about how their cousin's best friend's teacher's father's aunt dates men shorter than her. And it's like hey that's really neat, but anyone who's got a pair of eyes can still see that WOMEN TEND TO LIKE TALLER MEN.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/09/23 03:24 AM
1	If people paid attention to men who expressed any emotion other than anger, men would probably start expressing more emotions than just anger. You asked me for an example of holding my boundaries causing harm for others, did you not? And I don't think you can just throw in "unnecessary" to solve the problem -- Who decides necessity? If we can't answer that we'd just be back to the original statement. I think that men holding boundaries against feminism in general will harm women because it will deny women privileges that they think they deserve. So I think this is actually quite problematic because we are functioning from a baseline le…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/23 10:57 PM
1	Women arbitrarily choose 25 as the age they're comfortable with any age gap, because they know that's the point when women's value starts to decline. It's not a moral superiority issue, it's their own fear of being replaced as they age. Also this is a gender and dating debate sub, my guy. Do you feel that the military draft only affecting men and not affecting women is not a gender-related topic? And yes, dating is a major focus, but intersexual dynamics are top of the list and this is an example that really brings feminist hypocrisy to light. I have yet to see a single counter-example of feminism actively advocating for a cause that decreases female privilege to elevate men because the inequality actually works in favor of wom…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/23 10:48 PM
1	If people paid attention to men who expressed any emotion other than anger, men would probably start expressing more emotions than just anger. Yes. For example, I am a manager with staff members, and a staff member underperforms. I choose to perform a formal disciplinary action against this employee because their performance is unacceptable relative to the standards that I have set for my department. Me holding this professional boundary has caused harm to someone else at the company who works under me, because their performance evaluation and employee file will now contain an official write-up, which will affect their future opportuni…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/23 10:17 PM
5	Women arbitrarily choose 25 as the age they're comfortable with any age gap, because they know that's the point when women's value starts to decline. It's not a moral superiority issue, it's their own fear of being replaced as they age. And I’ve never seen a single woman on this sub advocate in favor of mandatory conscription. People don't get to make this argument -- Mandatory conscription exists for all boys once they turn 18, that is the current reality. Your well wishes and good vibes don't make it go away. Now, with that in mind, what do feminists do about this reality? Nothing. Boys dying don't matter to them in the fight for gender equality, because the only equality they care about is where equality benefits women. the …	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/23 01:42 PM
7	Women arbitrarily choose 25 as the age they're comfortable with any age gap, because they know that's the point when women's value starts to decline. It's not a moral superiority issue, it's their own fear of being replaced as they age. Men DO advocate for men, what we're seeing here is women deflecting when their stated fundamental principal (people are not mature until age 25, so age gap relationships prior to 25 are unacceptable) doesn't match their actions (literally in no other arena in reality do women actually advocate for age 25 to be the age of maturity except the one where they feel threatened by younger women in relationships). EVERYTIME female hypocrisy is called out, the response is "WeLl WhY DoN'T MeN dO _______?"…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/23 09:10 AM
6	"A lot of men are not desirable." Do you agree or disagree? Why or why not? What are you even talking about? Before men made the modern world safe enough for people to live independently, how was a woman going to survive by herself? The institution of marriage was created to protect women by making the man socially responsible for her well-being so that he can't impregnate her and abandon her, or neglect her well-being without consequence. It's a well-known fact that married women have higher life expectancy than single women, and it's hard for me to believe that the ra…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/23 06:25 AM
7	Women are more emotional than men - this shouldn’t have a negative connotation to it. I don't think so. I think women get just as angry as men, but they lack the physicality to actually do anything about it other than maybe throw a drink in your face. Men are just so much more physically visible when they are angry, whereas women are so much more physically subdued in their anger.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/23 04:49 AM
2	Wouldn't it be better for everyone if women initiated and made the first move? Well done, your courage overcame your fear and you took action on what you wanted to get. The truth is that whoever does the approaching gets to choose the quality of their partners. So while approaching people you are interested in is good for both men and women, most women end up leaving it to the men to approach even thoigh a lot of their complaints about men would disappear if they had the courage to do what you did, so congratulations.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/23 12:28 AM
-1	Women arbitrarily choose 25 as the age they're comfortable with any age gap, because they know that's the point when women's value starts to decline. It's not a moral superiority issue, it's their own fear of being replaced as they age. Because if you're going to arrange to date someone, if they aren't already working a 9-5, if they don't already have kids, if they aren't already paying bills, if they don't already have a heap of adult responsibilities, it's just way easier to see them. Just try scheduling to meet with a 30 something woman and at a certain point you can't even tell if she's soft rejecting you or if she's actually got overtime and then het kid has a school meeting and then there are contractors coming over and t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/23 11:38 PM
1	Women arbitrarily choose 25 as the age they're comfortable with any age gap, because they know that's the point when women's value starts to decline. It's not a moral superiority issue, it's their own fear of being replaced as they age. If those fathers could have their way, they'd rather never have to entertain the thought of any man's dick going into their little baby girl, even if she was 18 and he was 18. And if the dad was a good father, then he would want to raise a daughter who is capable of finding herself a good man, regardless of age.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/23 11:32 PM
0	Women arbitrarily choose 25 as the age they're comfortable with any age gap, because they know that's the point when women's value starts to decline. It's not a moral superiority issue, it's their own fear of being replaced as they age. You know how when a guy and a girl are out on a date and if the guy is looking at a prettier girl, she doesn't like it? Same idea, men know that women get a way stronger emotional connection with men that she has been intimate with, and we don't know how many of those men you have in your mind comparing us to when we're intimate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/23 11:30 PM
16	Women arbitrarily choose 25 as the age they're comfortable with any age gap, because they know that's the point when women's value starts to decline. It's not a moral superiority issue, it's their own fear of being replaced as they age. So why don't women argue for raising men's age of military draft up to 25? Drinking age to 25? Smoking age to 25? Voting age to 25? Surely killing people from a foreign country, DUI and killing someone, destroying your lungs for the rest of your life, or choosing the next political leaders of the country are all far more important than who is dating who.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/23 11:03 PM
1	Question for Red Pill It would help if you point out which specific ideas are misogynistic.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/23 10:23 AM
2	I don't blame Deadbeat fathers as much as women, because women control almost 100% of the sexual market and still choose those men That isn't consistent. If having sex is consent to having a child, and the woman becomes pregnant, she can revoke her consent after-the-fact by having an abortion and deny the man a child even though they both consented?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/23 11:05 PM
1	Daily Community Chat Megathread Laziness - A woman can get out of the house and socialize, get approached, and end up at a date. All she needs to do is watch her weight, wear nice clothes, and put on makeup and she's out the door. A man has to do some combination of go to the gym and get physically fit, earn a degree or at least learn useful skills, have a friend circle of men and women for social proof, have a business or job that pays good money, be emotionally in control of his encounters with women, and have the charisma t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/23 10:46 AM
3	Young, attractive women don't completely hate the attention they get. If they hated it there wouldn't be a billion dollar industry focusing on making them look as young as possible So taller and richer IS better.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/23 09:34 AM
3	'Getting women' by lying and manipulating them isn't reflective of skill, it's just coercive I think you're looking at all of this from a woman's perspective, which doesn't make sense if you're trying to critique a man's actions because you would need the men's perspective of what is going on here. You mentioned you were just looking to vent, but I hope seeing across the aisle will help give you some closure. The main thrust is going to be that you can't judge men's reactions to women through a humanitarian lens because female attraction is not humanitarian. So, in my experience, usuall…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/23 08:58 AM
7	'Getting women' by lying and manipulating them isn't reflective of skill, it's just coercive Because women act less than. They don't approach men, they don't initiate conversations, they don't escalate physically, they don't plan dates, they don't pay for dates, they don't initiate sex, they don't progress relationships, they don't propose for marriage. Women are spineless and cowardly children when it comes to relationships and you are upset that they are being treated for what they are.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/23 07:52 AM
3	The insults I agree. I have only in one instance seen virgin, incel, small dick, etc. type insults used face-to-face. People are way more liberal with insulting people online where there is no possibility of being punched in the mouth.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/23 04:45 AM
3	Young, attractive women don't completely hate the attention they get. If they hated it there wouldn't be a billion dollar industry focusing on making them look as young as possible Would you date a 5'2" balding Indian janitor who values your opinions and feelings?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/23 04:20 AM
1	Daily Community Chat Megathread There's definitely the possibility that you just purposely remove yourself from social situations, put on an unapproachable attitude, live in an area or culture that is less social, etc. But being attractive and young generally just pulls people into your orbit regardless of what you do. Some women mistake this for regular social reality, but for example people wanting to be your friend, coming to help you with whatever, starting conversations with you, etc. are all things that most guys don't j…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/09/23 10:19 PM
11	Young, attractive women don't completely hate the attention they get. If they hated it there wouldn't be a billion dollar industry focusing on making them look as young as possible Then women should be way more supportive of manosphere content because it teaches men how to become the right kind of men. Self improvement, charisma, exercise, understanding women, advancing your career, etc.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/09/23 10:10 PM
1	If you want to understand why women feel so adverse to being approached, try being a somewhat middle class person in a struggling third world country. Then those guys need to learn better game. Robert Greene calls it "anti-seduction" when you display behavior where it is self-centric. Good approaches need the man to put himself into the mind of the woman and draw out what she is interested in, passionate about, or emotional about so that the man can mirror back at her.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/09/23 10:07 PM
1	Daily Community Chat Megathread Gonna be brutal and just say that it does. Guys understand this because we just live with this basic level of invisibility where unless you are very attractive, people do not go out of their way to talk to you, make friends with you, invite you to things, etc. It's true for women too, but the bar for attractiveness for women before you lose your invisibility is way lower. If you are young, or when you were young, do you remember the amount of attention that you can draw towards you passively jus…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/09/23 03:13 PM
1	Daily Community Chat Megathread You can indeed do some voice training to deepen your voice. The simplest is to project your voice into your head instead of speaking from the back of the throat. Relax the muscles at the front of your head and speak, letting the air and vibrations fill up your face. This gives it more natural resonance than if you squeak your words from your throat and out your mouth.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/09/23 02:55 PM
2	Daily Community Chat Megathread I really need people to flip perspectives for one hot second when they post about what "men need to do". For example: Laziness -- Can you compare what a guy has to do versus what a woman has to do in order to date? Putting in the work -- What work does a woman actually have to do to date that men don't have to do more of? Listen to criticism -- Do we see women listening to criticisms, especially in this subreddit? Stupid standards -- Do we see women receptive to discussions of standards? Do they…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/09/23 02:52 PM
2	Daily Community Chat Megathread No. A currency loses value if you inflate it too much. The worth of your validation, praise, or attention is not a gold standard; it's fiat. You have to regulate how much you print, how you distribute it, when you distribute it, and to whom you distribute it. Beyond that, you can also do all sorts of self-improvement to increase the strength of your currency in the market, but at the end of the day if you treat your currency with recklessness you will not earn the respect that you are trying to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/09/23 02:47 PM
1	Why are people so obsessed with age gaps when it's such a niche issue? What sells is important to keep in mind too so don't use it as a hand-wave. If you're living in a culture where a sensationalist column about Leo's new girlfriend sells, that says something about that culture's attitudes towards age gaps.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/09/23 01:48 PM
6	All else equal, young people are universally more attractive It's also an open secret also that race plays a large factor. Generally, fairer skin Europeans and Americans do not age as gracefully as Asians and Blacks. I'm sure a portion of it is cultural, e.g. Skin care is a relatively larger topic amongst Asians and Blacks than it is amongst Europeans and Americans (which is strange considering you probably need more skin care as a White person), but I'm sure it is at least partially genetic that if I see an Asian person who looks 25, they could well be 3…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/09/23 01:41 PM
2	'Internalized misogyny' is too often used to dodge personal accountability In two separate occasions, I've been "that friend" between two female best friends, where both of them simultaneously tell me what they actually think of the other, and I guarantee you: Women only on the surface treat other women better in order to get along. Deep down women are way more catty and cruel with each other than male friends are to male friends. It's actually ridiculous to me how they go on laughing with each other and eating lunch together after what I've head each of them say about…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/09/23 01:35 PM
3	'Internalized misogyny' is too often used to dodge personal accountability It is quite a double standard -- If, through a feminist lens, toxic masculinity causes a man to do some nebulous harm, like looking at rough and tumble play and saying, "Boys will be boys!", then that is men's responsibility to stop that behavior. But if a woman does some actual harm like slut-shaming her own best friend for sleeping with her crush, then that's men's fault because this woman is a pure innocent flower who internalized her misogyny and she has no autonomy or agency in this situati…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/09/23 01:27 PM
3	If you want to understand why women feel so adverse to being approached, try being a somewhat middle class person in a struggling third world country. While I understand the comparison, the difference is that a person coming up to you to ask for money never has your interests in mind. A man that is approaching a woman properly builds attraction by attending completely to her, her personality, her reactions, and her needs. Game will teach you what to do with what she gives you, but in the end you are looking for a shared experience that you will both enjoy, unlike the beggar who only has his or her needs in mind.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/09/23 12:33 AM
11	Being a "good person" or not has zero impact on your dating life Yes there is more to life than a constant pursuit of fleeting pleasures, but you CANNOT preach to other people to control them like this. Imagine a guy who's been held in a prison camp for a long time without food. He's finally let out and the first thing he sees is a bacon double cheeseburger. Would you tell him not to eat it because it causes high cholesterol? No, that would be ridiculous, cruel, and inattentive of this man's needs and where he is in life in this very moment. You can preach pe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/09/23 08:31 PM
16	Being a "good person" or not has zero impact on your dating life I don't think you realize that a majority of men want exactly this; they would love to be in the position to even consider having short-term conquests and shallow interactions. You're literally threatening men with a good time and trying to tell men that their standards should match what you think is good and healthy for them instead. See, men don't want healthy, meaningful, respectful relationships until they're ready to settle down, so your advice to men should be an enthusiastic, "Yes! Use th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/09/23 02:30 PM
3	The truth is that majority of men won’t even approach/talk to women, yet they keep blaming them for the their lack of success. It looks to me like bad behavior and unrealistic expectations from women. Can you help me understand why you think the responsibility for women's actions shifted to being men's responsibility?	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/09/23 01:32 PM
3	The truth is that majority of men won’t even approach/talk to women, yet they keep blaming them for the their lack of success. I'd like to apologize if I made it sound like it was "Because A, therefore B". I like to see it as "This is how the balance was." rather than trying to say that any of it was causative. And yes, I understand that in non-American countries such as Japan and certain European countries, splitting the check is expected on a date. However, in American dating culture, women very much prefer to be treated as metaphorical princesses -- I.e. the man initiates the date, the man plans the date, the man pic…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/09/23 12:01 PM
6	The truth is that majority of men won’t even approach/talk to women, yet they keep blaming them for the their lack of success. Yep, because whoever approaches gets to choose the quality of their partner. So if you're a man and you're waiting for a woman to pick you, even assuming you're good enough to be picked by a woman, you still would have been in a better position in a relationship by going out to pick a woman yourself instead.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/09/23 11:14 AM
3	The truth is that majority of men won’t even approach/talk to women, yet they keep blaming them for the their lack of success. This is the biggest cap in the history of headwear. Ask any of your friends how many of them had relationships that began because he talked to her first, and how many began because she talked to him first. Numbers will be, generously, 80% men made the first move and 20% women made the first move, AT BEST. In reality it might be 90%-95% men made the first move. And by this I mean to ACTUALLY make a move; not drop hints, or give signals, or whatever bullshit -- An actual explicit first move.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/09/23 11:03 AM
14	The truth is that majority of men won’t even approach/talk to women, yet they keep blaming them for the their lack of success. I've approached plenty of women, but understand the entire process please for why the deal has improved for women but has not improved for men: The man has to initiate the approach, but that used to be due to women having to suppress their sexuality, and that is far less the case now due to women's sexual liberation. The man has to plan the date, but that used to be due to women being kept domestically, and that is far less the case now due to equal opportunities in occupation and education. The…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/09/23 10:56 AM
50	The truth is that majority of men won’t even approach/talk to women, yet they keep blaming them for the their lack of success. This feels like /r/OrphanCrushingMachine, but less heartwarming. The underlying assumption is that men having the responsibility of approaching women is by default an acceptable part of our culture and isn't even worth being questioned. There was a time when it was acceptable to expect men to approach, but ever since feminism, gender equality, #MeToo, etc., that time has passed. As men, we should still learn the how to approach women and game them, but understand that this is no longer the fair …	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/09/23 09:53 AM