SteveClintonTTV Archive

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1	The "Patriarchy" Causes Misandry? Just think about how bad your logic is here. You are suggesting that, if women complain that they are discriminated against, and they fight for more rights, that alone proves that they are discriminated against. You are essentially arguing "women can never be wrong". Which is obviously ridiculous, because any type of person can be wrong. You are dismissing the possibility that, in a society in which both men and women have advantages and disadvantages, many women decided that they don't like the…	/r/MensRights	16/03/26 10:00 PM
2	Average reaction to women literally murdering men Yeah, that kind of thing drives me nuts. It's all the same shit, like you point out. One person is trying to shut down another's argument, by suggesting that, as a black person (or as a woman, or as a gay person, etc.), they are expected to inherently take the side of all other people in that demographic. And therefore, if they have a different point-of-view, it must be the case that they are only doing it in order to get attention from the other group. A woman arguing on behalf of men's issues?…	/r/MensRights	16/03/26 09:56 PM
3	The "Patriarchy" Causes Misandry? You absolutely can. This is a huge part of the problem. Certain ideas have just become "truisms". They are just considered accepted fact, and that you are ridiculous if you try to deny them. But people have stopped putting any effort at all into actually proving them to be true. Many people, myself included, do not believe something like "we live in a patriarchy" to be true. Meanwhile, people like you just keep repeating it like a religious mantra. It's true because you say it to be true. It's t…	/r/MensRights	15/03/26 02:23 PM
1	The political left's treatment of awkward, autistic, and neurodivergent young men is nothing short of evil Agreed. Also, I disagree with his assertion there anyway. It comes off as the kind of thing said by someone who frequently converses with the left, while refusing to engage honestly with the right. If you spend all of your time on mainstream subreddits, you're going to have your opinion of the right shaped by those people, and they don't exactly have an honest and accurate view of the right.	/r/MensRights	15/03/26 02:21 PM
3	The political left's treatment of awkward, autistic, and neurodivergent young men is nothing short of evil Right. I've come to accept that everyone has some amount of bigotry in them. Sure, there are some people who are more willing to put in effort to suppress that where it's inappropriate, and others who just let it fly. And I do believe that, in a modern, "enlightened", western society, we should aim to be the former, not the latter. But it bugs me how people try to play make believe that there are simply some people with a "racist gene" or whatever, that it's a night-or-day sort of issue. As if s…	/r/MensRights	15/03/26 02:19 PM
5	Average reaction to women literally murdering men Yeah, that's another factor. They deliberately ignore context like that. They see more men than women in positions of power, and they ignore that more men seek out such positions, and therefore, even with 0 discrimination going on, we would expect to see more men achieving such roles. They see men earning more money on average than women, and they ignore that men choose more lucrative jobs (in spite of whatever downsides come paired with the higher pay), and therefore, even with 0 discrimination…	/r/MensRights	15/03/26 02:17 PM
3	Average reaction to women literally murdering men Projection doesn't require introspection. They might not be consciously aware of this shit I describe. But deep down, they know it to be true. In fact, I would argue that projection is likely to occur more when the person in question does not consciously realize what they are guilty of. Projection is part of the system which protects them from making that realization to begin with. They're so busy accusing the other person of something that they never have to stop and recognize that they are far…	/r/MensRights	15/03/26 02:14 PM
2	The "Patriarchy" Causes Misandry? Based. It drives me nuts how many arguments I see these days, which rely on an (often unstated) premise, which I flat-out think is ridiculous. It's the danger of how people operate. They push an idea on people, and while some agree, many disagree. But then, they just move past it as if it's universally accepted. And then you get a whole host of arguments built on top of that foundation which was never fully agreed upon. But it becomes very difficult to respond to such arguments. And it just grow…	/r/MensRights	14/03/26 05:05 PM
1	The "Patriarchy" Causes Misandry? This is a tangent, but I was just reminded of a hilarious line from Community. Britta shows up to a late-night meeting, having come straight from her job as a bartender, and she's clearly drunk. When she's called out on that, she says something like, "If I were drunk, could I do this", and does a physical gesture suggesting she's trying to fart, but instead, she runs out of the room. Later on, when Jeff is being pressed on something, he deflects by saying, "You know what, I think Britta somehow …	/r/MensRights	14/03/26 03:19 PM
3	The "Patriarchy" Causes Misandry? Care to back that claim up with something more substantial than, "YEAH HUH" and a laughing emoji?	/r/MensRights	14/03/26 03:16 PM
81	The political left's treatment of awkward, autistic, and neurodivergent young men is nothing short of evil I mean, that's just the left for you in general. They virtue signal about how they are against racism, sexism, homophobia, body-shaming, disability-shaming, and so on. But at the end of the day, these are just aspects of humanity which no group is above. They can pretend all they want about how they are more enlightened and better than the right. But when it comes down to it, they will use those same factors to ridicule the people they don't like. Consider how, when they are shitting on Trump, t…	/r/MensRights	14/03/26 03:13 PM
30	Average reaction to women literally murdering men And Radical Feminists argue that supposedly we men “play it the victim”. It's called projection. They've got a guilty conscience, because they know how bad they are about shit like that. So they assume/hope that men are just as bad as they are, so that they don't have to admit that it's simply a them problem. Same shit as their arguments about men in positions of power. Feminists frequently point to the existence of men in positions of power, as if that alone proves their contention that all men…	/r/MensRights	14/03/26 03:08 PM
5	What are your thoughts that aging is harsher on women because they're judged more on their looks? Yeah, it's fucking insane how older women consistently get envious of younger women, and yet they find a way to blame men for it. Young actresses use sex appeal to their advantage, because why wouldn't they? Then when they get older and no longer have that option, they act all feminist and claim that it's misogynistic that women are expected to be sex objects for men to look at. Young women eagerly pursue relationships with older men, because that's just how they tend to be. Then when they get o…	/r/MensRights	07/03/26 06:48 PM
4	What are your thoughts that aging is harsher on women because they're judged more on their looks? Right. As usual, women being treated the same as men is framed as if they are being mistreated. When young, women are elevated like crazy due to their looks, while men have to make it on their own. Then when older, women join men in the category of needing to make it on their own, without looks to lift them up and carry them through life. Instead of framing this as, "when young, women have an advantage over men, and when old, men and women are equal", it is, of course, framed as, "when young, me…	/r/MensRights	07/03/26 06:44 PM
3	The Lie that Men are always physically stronger than Women. It's not a lie that men are physically stronger than women. It's just a faulty conclusion to take that fact and turn it into, "and therefore, a woman physically beating a man does no harm". Sure, there are some women who are stronger than some men. But I still think it's foolish to call it a lie that men are stronger than women. I agree with your conclusion that it's dumb how people justify women beating men. But the issue isn't that men aren't actually stronger than women. The issue is that, ev…	/r/MensRights	01/03/26 03:58 PM
3	Swedish study suggests hiring discrimination is primarily a problem for men in female-dominated occupations Women hate working with women in general. Most of them are too "rah rah feminism" to admit it out loud, but subconsciously, they recognize that men are better/easier to work with when shit needs to get done. An office filled with women is an environment which basically everyone, men and women alike, will tell stories about being an absolute hellscape. But if we try to connect the dots and come to any kind of conclusion about this, that's heckin' misogyny.	/r/MensRights	01/03/26 03:54 PM
11	Swedish study suggests hiring discrimination is primarily a problem for men in female-dominated occupations The following pattern has played out many times, and every time, it just gets swept under the rug. Women in some environment will allege discrimination against them, and demand a sex-blind environment to replace it. The sex-blind environment is provided, and it results in worse outcomes for women, better outcomes for men. As a result, there is a return to the previous environment. I recall one story in which this happened with hiring in general, either at a specific company, or within an industr…	/r/MensRights	01/03/26 03:52 PM
10	Swedish study suggests hiring discrimination is primarily a problem for men in female-dominated occupations As always, there are "female spaces" and "open spaces". For any space to be specifically male would be to exclude women, which is sexist, and if it exists, it'll quickly be called out and forced to change. Meanwhile, any space being specifically female is perfectly okay, and actually argued to be necessary in many cases (such as female-only gyms, which women argue are necessary to avoid "creepy men"). It's funny, because there are times when feminists actually try to argue that this dynamic ("fe…	/r/MensRights	01/03/26 03:48 PM
14	Swedish study suggests hiring discrimination is primarily a problem for men in female-dominated occupations Right? lol This is the kind of thing which is nice to have confirmation about, so you can provide a source the next time someone tries to deny it. But it's not exactly some great revelation. Anyone who doesn't actively have their head in the sand could tell you that, in the modern era (in the west), it's white men who are primarily being discriminated against by hiring policies. No company in their right mind is going to discriminate against any race other than white, any sex other than male, no…	/r/MensRights	01/03/26 03:45 PM
10	Teacher charged with molesting student was married mom who complained about ‘creepy men’ It's not even that they preach against "it". They preach against completely normal, reasonable shit. The thing she called a guy creepy for in this story was asking her for a hit of her vape. That's not even anything bad. That seems like a completely normal social interaction for two people in a public space (akin to asking another smoker if you can bum a cigarette). Setting aside the hypocrisy and the gender politics, it really bugs me how people are getting so anti-social that it's expected tha…	/r/MensRights	01/03/26 03:42 PM
22	Teacher charged with molesting student was married mom who complained about ‘creepy men’ Setting aside the gender politics for a second, what really irks me is the ongoing notion that interacting with a stranger in public is "creepy". It really bugs me how we've become such an anti-social society that a minor social interaction in a public place is considered some great sin. She says she was trying to "mind her own business". Well, I've got news for you. If you are in public, people might approach you and speak to you. You can't just whine about "minding my own business" when you're…	/r/MensRights	01/03/26 03:38 PM
17	ChatGPT is explicitly programed to avoid blaming females for anything even when confronted with facts to the contrary. I have found that it's very common for the more feminist women out there to simply be upset that they aren't men. They talk a big game about how it's because society prioritizes men, or how men are privileged, blah blah blah. But at the end of the day, you can tell they simply wish they had been born men, and push feminism as cope. ETA: In particular, I notice a lot of the women I've known in real life who lean heavily into feminism have artificially deep voices. Emphasis on "artificially". I've…	/r/MensRights	08/12/25 08:49 PM
6	UK: Male model David Gandy roasts Peppa Pig's father Daddy Pig for promoting a 'bad narrative' about men It's almost like they recognize that it's not about the cartoon, but what the cartoon says about society, or what influence it has over young children, and so on. But then they dishonestly pretend not to understand that, when it becomes inconvenient for them. I keep seeing people say this recently, and it's just so very true. Basically all modern leftist discourse is pretending not to understand shit, in order to prevent any kind of honest, productive conversation from taking place.	/r/MensRights	01/12/25 06:16 PM
7	UK: Male model David Gandy roasts Peppa Pig's father Daddy Pig for promoting a 'bad narrative' about men 9/10 female characters can be absolute girlbosses, but if 1/10 receives help from a male character even a single time, people screech "damsel in distress! misogyny!" The double standards are so ridiculous.	/r/MensRights	01/12/25 06:15 PM
13	UK: Male model David Gandy roasts Peppa Pig's father Daddy Pig for promoting a 'bad narrative' about men It's especially annoying, because it's such a fucking massive over-correction for something which wasn't even a problem to begin with. It used to be common for media to depict fathers as intelligent, compassionate, and responsible. The "father knows best" sort of vibe. And because this was the common trope, it became ripe for contrarianism. So we started to get characters like Homer Simpson and Al Bundy, which worked precisely because they were intended to run contrary to that norm. Yet over tim…	/r/MensRights	01/12/25 06:02 PM
7	UK: Male model David Gandy roasts Peppa Pig's father Daddy Pig for promoting a 'bad narrative' about men I don't understand why people like you insist on kicking the can down the road an inch as if that makes any difference at all. You are justifying girl power by pointing out that the lead is a girl, but that was also the creators' decision. It's not like they were handed a situation in which they must make a show about a girl, and so the obvious thing to do is to positively portray that girl. They chose to make the show the way they did. Like, sometimes people will criticize a flaw in the writing…	/r/MensRights	01/12/25 05:51 PM
10	UK: Male model David Gandy roasts Peppa Pig's father Daddy Pig for promoting a 'bad narrative' about men I don't. It's not innocence; it's dishonesty. As people keep pointing out more and more recently, the go-to leftist strategy is to pretend not to understand basic things, making it impossible to have an honest conversation about anything. How can you have an honest conversation about a topic like this with a person who insists on playing dumb about basic reality?	/r/MensRights	01/12/25 05:48 PM
1	Peep Show’s David Mitchell believes “mansplaining” is an unfair label. Honestly, I enjoy explaining what I've learned to experts. I want them to tell me when I am wrong, correct me, and give me more information to learn. I am the same way. I've discovered that it seems to be called reflective listening. If you explain something to me, I might have a good understanding of it, or I might have made some kind of invalid assumption or logical leap, leading me to having a completely wrong understanding of what you meant. However, if I explain my understanding the thing t…	/r/MensRights	16/09/25 10:43 PM
1	Peep Show’s David Mitchell believes “mansplaining” is an unfair label. Agreed. Their usual counter-argument to this is that mansplaining is a subset of condescension which is based on gender. But even that doesn't justify the sexist term, because guess what? Women can and do act condescending toward/about men who lack knowledge about stereotypically woman stuff. So a term like "gender-based condescension" would capture that behavior without blaming it solely on men. But there's the issue. That wouldn't blame it solely on men. So that's unacceptable to feminists.	/r/MensRights	16/09/25 10:37 PM
5	It's useless to argue with feminists. I'm done arguing. they kept pulling "who set that system up?" as if it was a blame game and men vs women. Yeah, this shit is so obnoxious. Like the rest of identity politics, feminists tend to frame the conversation around the victim, until you can demonstrate that men are the victims of something, and then they are very quick to shift the conversation focus to being about the perpetrator (or perceived perpetrator). You see this all the time with regards to random violence on the street. Feminists will complain a…	/r/MensRights	06/03/25 12:21 AM
21	Can white men finally stop complaining This lol. It's so fucking simple. I've said it a million times, and I'll say it again here. The right aren't exactly friendly toward men. They just aren't actively hostile toward us. All the Dems need to do to get men to support them is to stop demonizing us.	/r/MensRights	04/03/25 07:38 PM
3	Famous feminist "fact" shee(i)t about partner homicide commit by women I remember a pair of posts on AITA from years ago which displayed this double standard to a ridiculous degree. As a preamble, I'll say that I think people tend to overreact with the whole "it's dehumanizing" attitude. I think it depends on usage. As an adjective, "male/female" sounds completely normal (e.g. "a male doctor"), while as a noun, it sounds a bit more strange (e.g. "that male over there"). But even when used as a noun, context matters quite a bit, and I think people are a bit too quic…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	09/10/24 06:58 PM
3	The double speak of "it's other men" or "men do this to themselves" when it comes to male gender roles. Because women aren't visual (as much) as men. It's just biology. It's terribly convenient how the innate differences between men and women are recognized when they allow one to criticize/demonize men, but ignored any other time. Like, if there are more men in a particular industry, it might be the case that discrimination plays a role, but it also might simply be that men are more skilled at that job, or are more likely to be interested in it to begin with, or any of a bunch of other explanation…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	09/10/24 06:49 PM
1	The double speak of "it's other men" or "men do this to themselves" when it comes to male gender roles. Right. I hate how people overcorrect on issues like this. Sure, it's nice for men to be able to enjoy things like musicals, pedicures, and so on, without being considered failures as men. But that doesn't mean we need to throw the baby out with the bath water, and to act like traditional masculinity is evil or something. But that's often how the conversation goes.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	09/10/24 06:46 PM
3	The double speak of "it's other men" or "men do this to themselves" when it comes to male gender roles. It's annoying, because whataboutism can be a serious issue, and yet, most of the time I see the term thrown around, it's in response to one's hypocrisy being exposed. It's just a pathetic attempt to avoid self-reflection.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	09/10/24 06:44 PM
10	The double speak of "it's other men" or "men do this to themselves" when it comes to male gender roles. Right. The goalposts shift in a real fucking hurry. We'll be talking about who is victimized, but then the second someone suggests that men are actually more victimized than women, the goalposts shift to discussing about who the abuser is, rather than who the victim is. A common example is random violence. It's a common feminist talking point to say that women are unsafe when walking around town, that people seek to do them harm, because misogyny. And then anyone who knows what they are talking …	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	09/10/24 06:42 PM
8	When have women ever been the gender more expected to do emotional labor? Yep. There's literally a super common stereotype of the wife who is overly eager to complain about everything, and the husband who is overly eager to "solve the problem", rather than understanding that he just needs to listen and offer compassion. But somehow, feminists have decided that it's actually men who are always complaining to their wives, and those wives having to do "emotional labor" as a result? Feminists are so detached from reality, it's unreal.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	03/12/23 11:32 PM
3	When have women ever been the gender more expected to do emotional labor? Agreed. I have quite literally never once heard "boys will be boys" used to excuse rape or sexual assault. Feminists seem to have completely invented that, and repeated the lie so many times that many people believe it. It's so irritating.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	03/12/23 11:25 PM
5	When have women ever been the gender more expected to do emotional labor? Yep. It's really embarrassing when feminists try to act like being a decent partner is some huge "labor". It really speaks to just how selfish they are.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	03/12/23 11:24 PM
5	When have women ever been the gender more expected to do emotional labor? It's typical feminist deflection. Stereotypes tend to exist for a reason, even if they are often exaggerated to insulting degrees. And there's a reason that there's a stereotype of a couple where the wife complains about something and the husband tries to fix the problem, not understanding that she is just looking to vent. This stereotype can seem insulting to one or both, depending on perspective. It can be insulting to women that they are prone to complaining, and it can be insulting to men th…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	03/12/23 11:21 PM
6	Why do people get so offended if you even acknowledge misandry is real? Because to many feminists, it's basically a religion, and you're speaking heresy when you say that misandry is real and is a problem.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	30/08/23 11:47 PM
2	dumbass in TwoX has epiphany from Barbie movie Yep. I'm embarrassed to say the same. For the longest time, I would have been the guy scoffing and rolling his eyes if someone suggested that women aren't discriminated against in our society, or that men have issues as well. I'd been taken in by the propaganda same as most people seem to be, and the suggestion that what I'd heard a million times might not be correct seemed so foolish. How could anyone not think women are oppressed? It's just...the obvious truth of things! So frustrating. It mak…	/r/MensRights	24/07/23 01:57 PM
5	Barbie movie claims to be against sexism, but it just promotes it. Hiding it makes it worse. I'd rather a feminist movie market itself honestly, so that people can choose not to see it, because fuck that sort of movie. The fact that they deliberately hid it is super dishonest, and tricked a lot of people into seeing it opening weekend. I hope the second weekend is a huge drop-off and validates that it was only initially successful because of the dishonest marketing. If it actually holds strong now that people know what kind of misandrist nonsense it is...then o…	/r/MensRights	24/07/23 01:54 PM
81	Barbie movie claims to be against sexism, but it just promotes it. It's honestly super scummy how they basically Trojan Horse'd it in there. The marketing seemed to know damn well that audiences would reject this movie once they realized it was going to be a 2-hour feminist lecture. So they did their damnedest to promote it like a fun, light-hearted movie for families, leaning on the nostalgia of a toy. No whiff of feminism in the marketing. And then it's basically all the movie has to offer. Despicable. Say what you will about the obnoxious feminist movies of …	/r/MensRights	23/07/23 12:49 AM
0	Why do people on Reddit always check your profile and try to make you feel bad for posting in mensrights I'm going to be honest, mate. I don't think you know what a "strawman argument" is.	/r/MensRights	23/07/23 12:46 AM
50	dumbass in TwoX has epiphany from Barbie movie Then, however, I asked myself a really uncomfortable question: Are more men in the world like my dad, or like the Kens in the movie? I think a part of me knew the answer but wanted to avoid it. Incredible. He has first-hand experience which tells him that the "all men are evil" trope is just propaganda, but he still actively chooses to believe the propaganda anyway. The part of him which "knows the answer" is the part which has seen a shit load of feminist media which paints men as bad people. I…	/r/MensRights	23/07/23 12:44 AM
40	UK: Female IT boss loses claim for sex discrimination and unfair dismissal. She complained about a 'laddish' workplace where male colleagues had Nerf gun wars and threw 'rubber chickens' at each other Yep. Imagine if the boss were a man, and he tried to sue his own company, complaining that the women in his office were being "too womanly", and how he feels that this is somehow discrimination against him as a man. Fucking yikes.	/r/MensRights	20/07/23 07:59 PM
18	UK: Female IT boss loses claim for sex discrimination and unfair dismissal. She complained about a 'laddish' workplace where male colleagues had Nerf gun wars and threw 'rubber chickens' at each other Feminists when men are having fun near them: "THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE" This is just embarrassing. Imagine if a man tried to sue his employer, claiming that the women in the office were being all "woman-like", and how that irritated him. Fucking pathetic. Nothing in the article mentions them doing anything to her, nor how the "laddish" atmosphere in any way harmed her. But just the fact that her male coworkers were...being men, was enough for her to believe she was being discriminated against as a w…	/r/MensRights	20/07/23 07:57 PM
9	When will the camel's back break? Nobody wants me to be wrong more than me. God, for real. It pisses me of when people who only care about being right project that onto me. I would fucking love to be wrong. If I woke up tomorrow, and the 5 things I'm most pissed about were proven not to be the case, that would be such a load off my mind. I'd be so relieved to know that these problems don't exist. But there are clearly a lot of people out there who just want to be right all the damn time, and they'll dig their heels in immediatel…	/r/MensRights	17/07/23 06:07 PM
4	Bill Burr: "I'm envious of women. At least your problems get taken seriously. Anything happens to a guy and it's just considered funny." Setting aside the many other ways in which your comment is wrong (other people have covered those already), I want to point out that, as hard as you believe it is for women to have their problems taken seriously, it's several times harder for men. You are arguing against the point in the OP by trying to demonstrate that women still have difficulty being taken seriously sometimes. But you ignore that the point in the OP is relative. It isn't that women have literally every problem taken super ser…	/r/MensRights	17/07/23 05:54 PM
9	Bill Burr: "I'm envious of women. At least your problems get taken seriously. Anything happens to a guy and it's just considered funny." Bad thing in society? Patriarchy. Good thing in society? Feminism. Man feeling forced to behave a certain way because of what he perceives to be society's expectations for him as a man? Toxic masculinity. Woman feeling forced to behave a certain way because of what she perceives to be society's expectations for her as a woman? Internalized misogyny. Good things named after women; bad things named after men. Men being harmed is framed as men doing it to themselves; women being harmed is framed as…	/r/MensRights	17/07/23 05:47 PM
8	Bill Burr: "I'm envious of women. At least your problems get taken seriously. Anything happens to a guy and it's just considered funny." Even if that claim were true, so what? Feminists continually argue about how things used to be as if to justify their continuing dominance over society. I don't give a shit how poorly women were or were not treated in the distant past. They are not treated that way now, so it's a disingenuous argument. It's insane how frequently we can be talking about modern-day issues, and some dipshit feminist will come in to point out that hundreds of years ago, blah blah blah, irrelevant bullshit. But also …	/r/MensRights	17/07/23 05:42 PM
12	Bill Burr: "I'm envious of women. At least your problems get taken seriously. Anything happens to a guy and it's just considered funny." Marry a great home cook? You're probably going to have some great home-cooked meals on the regular. If you get divorced, that goes away. Marry a massage therapist? If you're lucky, you might get some free, loving massages from your partner. If you get divorced, that goes away. Marry someone who's handy around the house? Lucky you, anything which is broken will be fixed for next-to nothing, instead of having to pay lots of money for a professional. If you get divorced, that goes away. Marry someo…	/r/MensRights	17/07/23 05:13 PM
2	Bad, or just bored? This is a topic which gets me heated. It really frustrates me that schools seem tailor-made to the ways girls learn best, at the expense of the ways boys learn best, and then when boys don't mesh with that as well as girls, boys get blamed for just being bad eggs. It's just shit. We shouldn't be blaming boys for simply being boys. We should be looking for a way to cater to both girls and boys, instead of being so eager to blame boys for their existence. But that just touches on the broader issue…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	15/07/23 08:35 PM
7	As a woman, this is embarrassing. Thanks for making us women look bad. It's only tangentially related, but I've been watching through the Simpsons for the first time (I've obviously seen scattered episodes before, basically impossible not to have been exposed to it in some degree), and I got to an episode where Homer gets in hot water because a feminist college student thinks he was sexually harassing her when he wasn't. The episode proceeds with the people of the city hating Homer overnight, and basically calling for his head. And at the time the episode aired, th…	/r/MensRights	15/07/23 02:24 PM
9	As a woman, this is embarrassing. Thanks for making us women look bad. Yep. It's really embarrassing for them, and they don't even realize it. It's not just these shirts, either. It's a broader thing with modern feminism. Hollywood is a big offender in this regard. So many movies with female actors/writers/directors just end up screaming insecurity. They're just so damned obsessed with feeling superior to men. It just makes them look like insecure children.	/r/MensRights	15/07/23 03:17 AM
27	As a woman, this is embarrassing. Thanks for making us women look bad. "b-b-but that's different, because <insert 5 paragraphs worth of mental gymnastics to justify why it's empowering when I hate you, but evil when you flip it around on me>"	/r/MensRights	15/07/23 03:14 AM
25	As a woman, this is embarrassing. Thanks for making us women look bad. Similarly, I chuckled at the seeming self-awareness of "I support women's rights and women's wrongs", thinking that it was essentially making the "enough about women's rights, let's talk about women's wrongs" joke in a different way. But then I remembered the source, and I realized it's basically saying they justify everything women do, no matter how wrong, because feminism. Ugh.	/r/MensRights	15/07/23 03:10 AM
9	As a woman, this is embarrassing. Thanks for making us women look bad. For a while, I was upset by the blatant hatred. But at this point, I feel like I've become numb the that, and instead, all I can think is how fucking pitiful and childish it is when women act this way. It just screams insecurity when women seem to make it their entire identity to feel superior to men. It's so obvious that women who behave this way feel deep down that they are inferior, and are desperately trying to compensate. I get such secondhand embarrassment from so much of modern Hollywood …	/r/MensRights	15/07/23 03:07 AM
20	Why is there so much misandry in society nowadays? Particularly in pop culture and social media? It's not all that unexpected. It's the natural result of ideologies which push their adherents to view every situation through the lens of sex/race/whatever. Ideologies like these essentially become creative writing exercises. The prompt is "explain how <insert thing here> can be described as sexist against women" or racist against black people, or whatever else. The end result is shit like this. Something which is so plainly ridiculing men as immature and useless, yet if you are motivated, it's…	/r/MensRights	12/07/23 06:09 PM
14	Why is there so much misandry in society nowadays? Particularly in pop culture and social media? It's a little spicy, and not on-topic for this subreddit, but I've noticed the same with race. It's very, very common for there to be a pair of male characters where one is mature and sensible, while the other is a man-child. And consistently, the mature one is black and the man-child is white. Kind of tired of commercials which might as well have an end tag saying, "white men, am I right?"	/r/MensRights	12/07/23 06:07 PM
2	This comment section is absolutely INSANE Yeah. Woman posts about how her boyfriend is always hitting up the clubs, getting drunk and probably flirting with strange, drunk women. She mentions how she's asked to come along with him, and he's refused her every time. She mentions how she had a heart-to-heart with him, and explained that this makes her extremely uncomfortable, and that she doesn't want him to do it anymore, or at least not without her. He agrees to this, but then keeps doing it anyway. There is not a snowball's chance in he…	/r/MensRights	08/07/23 11:11 PM
3	This comment section is absolutely INSANE Yep. Man pays on dates. Man takes out the trash and fixes things around the house. Man proposes and buys expensive engagement ring. All of these traditions are fine. But don't you dare expect the woman to do any cleaning around the house, because that's just sexism, sir, plain and simple.	/r/MensRights	08/07/23 11:08 PM
1	This comment section is absolutely INSANE No one should have to live with someone who they don’t want to. But no one forced you to make that lifelong commitment to begin with. This is the problem with people like you. You ignore the choices that you made to end up in a situation, and then just expect a free pass to get out, acting as though you were just randomly placed in your current situation. But you weren't. You made choices which led you there. This shit comes up all the time with the abortion debate -- and I'm pro choice, I just …	/r/MensRights	08/07/23 11:00 PM
2	This comment section is absolutely INSANE Yeah, it's fucking insane how hard women will defend other women. There's a reason feminists assume that all men have a strong bias toward other men. It's because they know damn well just how much in-group bias they have, and they assume men are as bad as they are.	/r/MensRights	08/07/23 10:56 PM
3	This comment section is absolutely INSANE Agreed. That thread is filled with people bending over backward not to judge this woman, and instead say weak shit like "Eh, she can do what she wants, and you can leave her if you don't like it." That's a fine enough sentiment when we're talking about two reasonable, yet clashing points of view. Neither are wrong, yet they are incompatible. But in cases like this, what she's doing really warrants judgment, and it would absolutely receive it if the genders were reversed. Can you even imagine how…	/r/MensRights	08/07/23 10:55 PM
3	Why does Wikipedia downplay misandry? I think it's absurd that this person you're replying to thinks ANYONE needs arguments or evidence of misogyny. How can you say this with a straight face. You're the perfect embodiment of the problem I was describing. People have heard "misogyny is everywhere" so many times that they just take it at face value, without any evidence at all. It's ridiculous that you think there's anything wrong with expecting evidence before believing something to be true.	/r/MensRights	07/07/23 04:49 PM
14	Why does Wikipedia downplay misandry? You need receipts for misogyny? And there it is. Feminists expect that people just...already agree with them. You have no arguments. You have no evidence. You have nothing. You rely on people already knowing the "obvious" truth that women have been oppressed forever. But what if I disagree with you? Just insisting on what you believe to be obvious isn't worth jack shit. You have nothing to back it up other than, "come on, bro, like, just, come on, bro" Fuck you.	/r/MensRights	06/07/23 01:42 AM
6	Debunking the "Gender Pay Gap" Right? Imagine having a partner who spends all day every day working a job he might hate, all so he can provide for your every need...and still thinking, "Ugh, why am I not being compensated for the work I do?" There's no fixing feminists. They're absolutely brainfucked.	/r/MensRights	05/07/23 10:15 PM
5	Debunking the "Gender Pay Gap" You are compensated for that. Having a man who works a job so that you don't have to...is a very cushy gig. I would fucking love to have a partner who earns all the money while I get to stay in the comfort of my own home. But I don't. I have a partner who relies on me to do that for her, so that she can enjoy the luxury. It is absolutely fucked when you describe this dynamic as men being privileged.	/r/MensRights	05/07/23 10:13 PM
7	Debunking the "Gender Pay Gap" Right. OP's post is great. It's a very comprehensive breakdown of why the so-called "gender wage gap" is bullshit. But what you say here really highlights the icing on the cake. A large part of the reason why men earn more than women is that they feel that they must in order to attract and keep a life partner. Women have the freedom to work or not as they see fit. It's much easier for them to find a partner for life, without having to build a career first. Men have no such luxury. So when you fr…	/r/MensRights	05/07/23 10:11 PM
16	Why does Wikipedia downplay misandry? Right after you provide links to the "receipts" which demonstrate: a whole metric shit ton of misogyny [which] has existed for several thousand years Good lord, man. Look in a fucking mirror once in a while.	/r/MensRights	05/07/23 09:42 PM
13	Why does Wikipedia downplay misandry? Right. I refuse to accept the notion that misogyny has been rampant throughout history, when the people in charge of determining what qualifies as misogyny...let's just say...they have a few screws loose. Men in the 1950s were forced to work jobs they hate, because they had an entire family resting on their shoulders. Women, meanwhile, got to do self-motivated work in the comfort of their own homes. And feminists consider women to have been the oppressed ones here. Men throughout history have be…	/r/MensRights	05/07/23 09:35 PM
14	Why does Wikipedia downplay misandry? Right. It seems only natural that when a new word is invented to describe something which already existed, it would prompt people to think about whether it applies to their own lives. It seems a pretty common thing that people will notice some pattern subconsciously, but struggle to put it into words. But then someone will come along and put it in a word which very succinctly describes the pattern. And suddenly everyone who has subconsciously noticed it up until that point will have a moment of …	/r/MensRights	05/07/23 09:31 PM
11	Why does Wikipedia downplay misandry? I want to make two points here. 1) You are assuming that the response was due to men being "butthurt". But it seems to be that it's a pretty natural response to a new topic being raised. Women pointing out how people treat them differently as women prompted men to realize, "Oh hey, that's a good point. Now that I think of it, I also get treated worse in some ways because of my gender". 2) You equate the beginning of feminism with "women daring to criticize men". So uhh, mask off, huh? When MRAs …	/r/MensRights	05/07/23 09:28 PM
2	Imagine if cycling in London was for everyone, not just men in Lycra I honestly think it's one of the primary reasons people think women were/are oppressed. The squeaky wheel gets the grease. If two groups of people are in shitty situations, and only one of them complains about it all the time, the casual observer will be likely to believe that that group is in a worse situation than the other. Even if you go back to something like the 50s, women had a different role than men, but that doesn't mean they were oppressed. It just meant that women and men were treate…	/r/MensRights	23/06/23 12:28 AM
7	Imagine if cycling in London was for everyone, not just men in Lycra Even if you set that aside, I refuse to take "women feel unsafe doing X" as evidence that X is biased against women. This user is repeatedly trying to argue that the increased presence of women biking on non-traffic days proves that there's some anti-women-biking attitude or something. And it's nonsense. If women feel less safe doing something than men, it could be because they are less safe doing it. But it could also simply be that they have different feelings than men on average. The men are …	/r/MensRights	22/06/23 07:23 PM
9	Imagine if cycling in London was for everyone, not just men in Lycra That's just the way things are these days. I've seen similar articles about how there's a white supremacy problem in the "hiking community". The evidence? More white people hike than black people. And apparently, some people choosing to do something and other people not choosing to do it...is discrimination, or something. I'm so sick of it. We're very rapidly approaching the point where straight, white men are not allowed to do anything without being shit on for it. Men like to bike more than wo…	/r/MensRights	22/06/23 07:19 PM
13	Imagine if cycling in London was for everyone, not just men in Lycra She mentions seniors, race and gender as having influences on who feels comfortable riding on the road. This is the problem, though. A person feeling unsafe does not mean they are unsafe. People on this subreddit are sick and tired of hearing about how women feeling less safe than men is somehow evidence of misogyny, rather than evidence of women...feeling a certain way. Men are significantly more likely to be the victims of random violence while walking alone at night. But because women feel le…	/r/MensRights	22/06/23 07:18 PM
7	Imagine if cycling in London was for everyone, not just men in Lycra White men do literally anything Feminists: "...and I took that personally." It's fucking insane how often I see articles about how more men do such-and-such hobby than women, or more white people do such-and-such hobby than black people, and how this is proof of white supremacist patriarchy, blah blah blah. Like...for fuck's sake. People are just enjoying their hobby, but because not enough people who are different gender/race than them also enjoy that hobby...they're somehow doing something wro…	/r/MensRights	22/06/23 07:14 PM
5	Imagine if cycling in London was for everyone, not just men in Lycra Yep. It's insane how consistent feminists are with this bullshit. Women complain of X more than men do, and feminists immediately conclude that women are being oppressed. But in reality, women are just more likely to complain. A man gets passed while on the road, and he either doesn't notice or care. Or even if he does, he might have a bout of road rage, scream internally, and then move on with his life. Meanwhile a woman gets passed on the road, and she complains about it to her friends. That p…	/r/MensRights	22/06/23 07:10 PM
6	Imagine if cycling in London was for everyone, not just men in Lycra Right? I actually clicked the damn link, because I was curious how in the unholy fuck a study could prove the reason why women are more likely to get in cycling accidents. And it's just a fucking Guardian article, of course. But for real, how would they even prove such a thing? A study could show that women are, indeed, more likely to be involved in accidents. But as other users have pointed out, an obvious alternative to "misogyny" is "women are worse at biking". How would a study show that the…	/r/MensRights	22/06/23 07:05 PM
51	Why do so many men hate this sub Feminists welcome questions over on r/askfeminists; Sure, but have you seen what happen to the responses they don't approve of?	/r/MensRights	18/06/23 08:41 PM
36	More and more relationships end because women are getting abusive for "equality" Expecting women to be responsible adults is called "misogyny" these days, didn't you know?	/r/MensRights	16/06/23 06:48 PM
19	Most sexism towards women is benevolent sexism, not hostile sexism, and hatred of women was never the norm. This is the problem. You are assuming that someone wanting to protect you means they think little of you, that they see you as an idiot, and they want to patronize you. But that isn't the case. You are turning "someone prioritizes me above everyone else" as an insult, when it's precisely the opposite. And that just reinforces OP's point. Women are given benefits in society, but feminists twist that into being an example of misogyny when it's quite the opposite.	/r/MensRights	16/06/23 02:35 PM
50	It's different when it's about men because reasons! And since I'm in a mood today, I'm going to go out on a limb and say you are exactly the kind of tighty-whitey underwear skidmark of a man who either fits my above description, comes close to it. Otherwise, why would you be so sensitive? Classic. She has no argument, so she just attacks you. Child behavior.	/r/MensRights	15/06/23 09:32 PM
5	Are we dating the same guy (screenshots) Add tumblr to the list. I really miss TumblrInAction, because there's limitless potential in mocking the kinds of shit you find on tumblr.	/r/MensRights	14/06/23 05:09 PM
8	UN Propaganda: "Nine out of 10 people are biased against women" They literally argue against their own stance without realizing it. They rightly point out that in the countries with the most gender equality, with women receiving the best educations, women still earn less than men. To any reasonable person, this would just prove even harder that women pursue careers with lower salaries, because they value what those careers have to offer more than they value high salary, while men prioritize salary above all. This argument goes against the stance of female op…	/r/MensRights	14/06/23 01:40 PM
39	Good-looking female students no longer get straight A's when classes become virtual - Global pulse News Then you must be new to feminism. It's a consistent pattern that feminists will seek to prove discrimination against women, and instead accidentally discover discrimination against men, and instead of doing anything about it, as they would if discrimination against women were present, they just shrug and move on. Like the other guy mentioned, you've got cases of gender-blind grading which results in girls' scores going down and boys' scores going up. And there's also been cases where gender-blin…	/r/MensRights	14/06/23 05:10 AM
22	Woman accused of murdering husband claims he 'walked into the knife' "And then he ran into my knife. He ran into my knife ten times."	/r/MensRights	13/06/23 06:04 PM
7	Man who changed gender from female weeps while explaining how much easier it was to make friends as a female and says he can see why suicide rate among males is higher If you don't feel like a gender does not mean you know how it is to be the other gender. The simple fact grass always looks greener on the other side till your there... Agreed. That's an important part of this conversation which people gloss over, because it's inconvenient to their ideology. "I don't feel like a woman" means nothing when you also don't know what it feels like to be a man. If every person got to spend 5-10 years as each gender, and then the universe picked one to assign to you, t…	/r/MensRights	12/06/23 01:51 PM
54	Man who changed gender from female weeps while explaining how much easier it was to make friends as a female and says he can see why suicide rate among males is higher Agreed. This happens every so often, where we'll get a transman who suddenly realizes how hard it is to be treated like a man, and who will preach a bit about that realization. But pretty much every time it happens, it's readily apparent that she still has feminist mind rot, and seems to view "cis white males" as a bogeyman, and still thinks things like patriarchy are the problem. And it's just frustrating how a person can miss the mark like that. How can you come so close to realizing how badly…	/r/MensRights	12/06/23 01:45 PM
4	Man who changed gender from female weeps while explaining how much easier it was to make friends as a female and says he can see why suicide rate among males is higher Right? Female skin, female skeletal structure, female musculature, female hormones, female sex organs, and so on, and so forth. But oh, a portion of the brain is sending the signal that it's male, so that makes the person male? Yeah, no. If every aspect of the body is agreeing you are one gender, and a portion of the brain is the only thing disagreeing, then the brain is the thing which is wrong. You aren't trapped in the wrong body; you have a brain which needs treating.	/r/MensRights	12/06/23 01:43 PM
40	"I'm a mom who flies in business class while my family stays in economy. We see it as a lesson on feminism." Welcome to feminism. Complain all day every day about certain behaviors men express, but then celebrate women when they express those same behaviors. Ever notice how basically every modern "strong, female character" is just a parody of all the worst aspects of toxic masculinity that feminists screech about? When you do it, it's evil. When we do it, it's virtuous.	/r/MensRights	12/06/23 12:11 AM
2	"I'm a mom who flies in business class while my family stays in economy. We see it as a lesson on feminism." "I'm a selfish bitch, and I have somehow convinced myself that it's noble." I fucking hate feminism. Absolute mind rot.	/r/MensRights	12/06/23 12:09 AM
6	An original view on the ‘male gaze’ and what it really means. That's a bit of a "No True Scotsman" argument. It's honestly one of my biggest frustrations with this subreddit. I like this place, but the complete inability to ever admit that the left-wing has problems is really irritating to me. Like the common accusation that feminism is actually right-wing, instead of just admitting that the left has its problems (like feminism), just as the right does. Yes, many progressives push puritan attitudes. That isn't something restricted to the right-wing. Instea…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	08/06/23 08:28 PM
9	An original view on the ‘male gaze’ and what it really means. Puritanism comes in conservative and liberal flavors, and I have little respect for either. Based. I couldn't stand the right-wing when I was growing up, and in retrospect, I've learned that a large part of the reason why is that I kept seeing their puritanism. No D&D, no Harry Potter, no Magic: the Gathering, because they're all witch craft. No Simpsons, because it's naughty. And so on. I couldn't stand that attitude. And as I've seen it growing more and more on the left, it's making it harder …	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	08/06/23 08:26 PM
4	Man is bad, man is bad, man is bad. A lot of feminists are just dishonest assholes who know that their lies work in their favor. But the ones who actually believe the things they say, I think, are suffering from immense amounts of confirmation bias. Any time they see women being blamed for anything, they think of it as evidence that women are always blamed. They'll spend lots of time blaming men for things, believing that they are balancing the scales. But in reality, they just have a poor view of the scales to begin with, because…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	08/06/23 08:15 PM
9	Man is bad, man is bad, man is bad. Yep. That's a huge problem these days. I know this is a men's rights group, not an anti-identity-politics group, but in many cases, the issues pushed by feminism are more broadly pushed by identity politics in general. And this is no exception. I find that whether we're talking about men or white people, it's a common trend that the demographic is repeatedly insulted by genuinely bigoted remarks, and then when that demographic says, "Hey, please stop, that's bigoted", they get called fragile. It…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	08/06/23 08:13 PM
1	Could you be friends with a feminist who is not misandrist? Something being a problem for women is very different from discrimination. You can't work backward from the end result like that. By that logic, women having periods is discrimination, because it hurts women and not men. You can't blame the results of biology on discrimination. If we're opening that can of worms, then you'd have to agree that it's a valid men's rights issue that men die earlier on average, or struggle more with alcoholism, or are more likely to commit suicide. But all of that is…	/r/MensRights	01/06/23 12:06 AM
3	Could you be friends with a feminist who is not misandrist? Many people you know who incorrectly label themselves feminists, you mean. If you truly believe they are feminists, ask them about feminist theory. Read them some of the writings of prominent feminists, like the one who said that men should be culled down to 10% of the population, and maintained there. Ask them about the editor of that prominent feminist magazine who said that spousal abuse is a one-way street (male on female), and that calling it "domestic abuse" is wrong, because a more accura…	/r/MensRights	01/06/23 12:03 AM
1	Could you be friends with a feminist who is not misandrist? Right? It's quite the opposite, honestly. If someone I don't respect is saying something which is incorrect, I'll likely hold my tongue. But if someone I respect is saying something which is incorrect, I'm going to do them the courtesy of calling them out on it, and helping them realize where they are wrong.	/r/MensRights	31/05/23 11:54 PM
1	Could you be friends with a feminist who is not misandrist? Believe it or not, I don't have to validate a person's delusions in order to respect them. In fact, quite the opposite. If I respect someone, and they are saying something which is obviously false, I'm going to do them the courtesy of calling them out on it. It's like pointing out to a friend that they have something in their teeth. You aren't being mean by pointing it out. You're helping them not go the rest of the day with something making them look foolish. If I meet a stranger who thinks the…	/r/MensRights	31/05/23 11:54 PM
6	Could you be friends with a feminist who is not misandrist? "Sometimes people are mean to women" "Sometimes people are mean to a field of work which is populated by more women than men" "People deny that women face issues" "Women face issues in non-western countries" It's embarrassing how someone can say this shit and think they are demonstrating that women still face discrimination in the west. If women have it so good that the best example of discrimination is that sometimes people are mean to them...then women have it pretty good.	/r/MensRights	31/05/23 11:45 PM
2	Could you be friends with a feminist who is not misandrist? Holy cow, the best argument against feminism is people attempting to list ways in which women are actually discriminated against in the west. Your first point is basically "sometimes people are mean to women". For that bullet point to disappear, people would literally have to never say a mean word about any women ever. That's such an absurdly unrealistic request that it makes the whole topic a joke. Your second point is indirect. Disrespecting a kind of work which just so happens to be populated…	/r/MensRights	31/05/23 11:43 PM
4	Could you be friends with a feminist who is not misandrist? Many people are so delusional that they actually believe that pro-lifers would do a complete 180 if men could suddenly get pregnant. It's fucking embarassing. I'm pro-choice, myself, but I fucking hate so many of the arguments other pro-choicers put out there. The idea that pro-life is a misogynistic stance is so stupid. And the idea that pro-lifers would suddenly be okay with the murder of unborn babies just because it would be convenient to men...is beyond delusional. The kind of person who be…	/r/MensRights	31/05/23 11:35 PM
4	Could you be friends with a feminist who is not misandrist? Perfect encapsulation of the way feminists view gender equality. Only once women have literally everything they ever want, are we even allowed to begin discussing men's issues. That's how it's always been with them. Raising men's issues is viewed as misogynistic, and "distracting from women's issues". We can't even talk about men for one fucking second so long as a single woman is displeased with her place as a woman. "You don't get anything until I'm done getting everything" is not equality; it…	/r/MensRights	31/05/23 11:32 PM
2	Could you be friends with a feminist who is not misandrist? Fuck off with this. Abortion bans have nothing to do with gender. Pro-lifers don't give a shit about the gender of the person giving birth. The issue is that they view abortion as murder, and guess what? Murder is kind of frowned upon. I'm pro-choice myself, but I hate this fucking nonsense argument that pro-life is a misogynistic view, that it's anti-woman, and that if men could be pregnant, pro-lifers would all be super chill with it all of a sudden. They wouldn't. They don't like murder. If t…	/r/MensRights	31/05/23 11:30 PM
4	Could you be friends with a feminist who is not misandrist? Right? Some might say it's a pointless semantic distinction, but I disagree. If feminists were at all interested in gender equality, they would have rebranded a long time ago. It's one thing to name your ideology "feminism" when you first start out as a group of people lifting women up in places where their rights are lacking. But as time moves on, if you want to be taken seriously as being interested in equality, you'd remove the explicit reference to one half of the equation, recognizing that …	/r/MensRights	31/05/23 11:27 PM
5	Could you be friends with a feminist who is not misandrist? So are you, and you are. From the very beginning, feminism has been anti-male, and has been anti-equality. One of the first notable achievements by feminists was the privilege for women to vote, without the corresponding responsibility to sign up for the draft, which is still an inequality to this day. Men have to surrender their life rights to the government in order to be able to vote, among many other things, while women get those privileges for free. And speaking of the draft, one of the fir…	/r/MensRights	31/05/23 11:24 PM
5	Could you be friends with a feminist who is not misandrist? I don't give a fuck what she "identifies" as. Words have meanings. Feminism is an ideology predicated on concepts and ideas which are mutually exclusive with having any kind of respect for men. If a person "identifies" as a feminist because they believe in gender equality and they have been duped into believing that's what it means, then they are not a feminist. They're just an egalitarian whose been duped by feminists, just like many of us were at one point. A person cannot truly believe in gen…	/r/MensRights	31/05/23 11:21 PM
1	Is anyone else completely sick of the "man stupid and incompetent" trope in every single piece of media now a days? I've been sick of it for a long time. And I agree that the Mario movie was a particularly annoying example of it. Not because it was a particularly exaggerated example, but because it's fucking Mario of all things. When this kind of shit is so ever-present that even a children's movie about Mario isn't safe, to me, that's a sign that this infestation is too strong to stop. To the extent that these characters even have character traits, we know that Luigi is cowardly and anxious, Mario is resolut…	/r/MensRights	04/05/23 04:33 PM
7	Masculinity is inherently pro-social, not toxic: Moving past hegemonic masculinity and into responsive masculinity Completely agreed. Does it suck when people treat others a particular way based on nothing but their sex/race/orientation/whatever? Absolutely. At the end of the day, we're all still individuals, and knowing one detail about a person does not tell you who they are. But it also drives me nuts when people swing so far in the other direction that they are playing make believe that every demographic is the exact same, and that arguing anything else is bigotry. Men and women are different. That doesn…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	26/04/23 04:15 PM
5	Masculinity is inherently pro-social, not toxic: Moving past hegemonic masculinity and into responsive masculinity While "toxic masculinity" sort of imply that not all masculinity is toxic, lacking at least an as omnipresent talk about "healthy" masculinity, it gives the impression that the only characteristic thing about masculinity is its toxicity. Yeah, there's so many angles to this. The lack of consistent discussion of healthy masculinity alongside the consistent discussion of toxic masculinity makes it way more likely for people to associate masculinity with toxicity. Similarly, the lack of consistent …	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	26/04/23 04:07 PM
10	Masculinity is inherently pro-social, not toxic: Moving past hegemonic masculinity and into responsive masculinity It's especially damning when you consider that "internalized misogyny" is the female counterpart, rather than "toxic femininity". In common parlance, "toxic masculinity" is very obviously being used as a cudgel to shit on men and masculinity. But if you force a feminist to actually give a description, they will usually not outright admit that they view men as toxic. They'll usually take the opportunity to retreat from the bailey to the motte, and define it as something like the following: "Toxic…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	26/04/23 03:50 PM
3	Masculinity is inherently pro-social, not toxic: Moving past hegemonic masculinity and into responsive masculinity You're the one stripping out nuance, my guy. You are reducing this conversation down purely to the rules of grammar, ignoring the blatant intent at play, as well as the obvious impact this will have on the listener. You don't get to pull out the "you have no nuance" card when your stance hinges on nothing more than "<adjective> <noun> doesn't mean all <noun> is <adjective>." You're the one being reductive.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	26/04/23 03:44 PM
2	Masculinity is inherently pro-social, not toxic: Moving past hegemonic masculinity and into responsive masculinity While it's true that an adjective modifies the noun it describes, when you so consistently pair up a particular adjective/noun combination, it undoubtedly creates a strong link between those two things in everyone's mind. How frequently do you hear anyone talk about masculinity outside the scope of "toxic masculinity"? And how frequently do you hear people discuss "toxic femininity"? There's very clearly manipulation of language going on here, in order to get people to associate masculinity with…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	26/04/23 03:42 PM
7	I think feminism is a right wing ideology. Thank you. This is by far my least favorite part of this subreddit. The endless "feminists are bad, and right-wingers are bad, so feminists must be right-wing" cope. It's just nonsense. Yes, feminists exhibit a lot of the same bigotry you can observe coming from the political right. But that doesn't mean that feminists are actually right-wing. It means that left-wingers are capable of bigotry just as much as right-wingers are. There are comments in this thread saying that because feminists do X,…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	17/04/23 08:05 PM
37	Apparently We All Just Need To Shut Up And "Work With" Feminism... Yeah, for real. Take a look at Hollywood if you need any confirmation. Feminists go on and on about toxic masculinity, but then when they write female leads, they are basically all the worst aspects of toxic masculinity bundled into one character we are meant to like...because woman.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	13/04/23 08:15 PM
15	Women’s rights have gone ‘too far’, say majority of Gen Z and millennials, study shows \| Article is mislabelled, headline should say "women's privileges and special benefits have gone too far" Cushy office jobs with high pay and low expectations outside of attending a few pointless meetings? Gotta get more women into those jobs. Equality! Hard jobs with intense physical labor, long hours, and low pay? Men can keep that shit. It's honestly despicable how many people are fooled by this shit. Feminists don't give a fuck about equality. They want privileges.	/r/MensRights	10/03/23 05:57 PM
1	ChatGPT : Black Women > White Men I asked it to give an explanation as to why racebending in media is a bad thing, and it went on a spiel about how whitewashing in media is racist and harms ethnic minorities. I can't even remember the last time a non-white character was changed to be white, yet basically every single new show or movie which comes out these days bends over backward to insert non-white characters in place of white ones. Whether it's racebending established white characters, or forcing modern-day NYC diversity into…	/r/MensRights	02/02/23 03:50 PM
9	Why is being a young white male so hard?? I know television and movies are not as impactful as legal discrimination, but it's nuts to me to think that there are people who watch modern mainstream media and still seem to think that we live in a society which has a positive bias toward white men. We're literally society's punching bag. Consistently portrayed as any combination of cowardly, incompetent, goofy, evil, bigoted, and so on.	/r/MensRights	28/01/23 06:46 AM
6	Woman went on six dates a week to save on food: ‘I didn’t buy groceries for two years’ It's pretty bad all around. Sure, some people might pull of scams which earn more money over time, but tens of thousands of dollars in a matter of two years is nothing to dismiss. That's quite a lot of money gained through fraud. And that's not to mention that I would consider the money the lesser of two evils. The real tragedy here is how many men's time and interest she's wasted. Men who get excited for a first date when there is 0% chance of it going anywhere, but they have no idea of that fa…	/r/MensRights	25/01/23 06:13 PM
8	Woman went on six dates a week to save on food: ‘I didn’t buy groceries for two years’ It's not fraud by any legal standard, but in terms of the spirit of the word, it's definitely fraud. She's going out with men who are trying to find a life partner, and who believe that she is looking for the same, but she is actually just looking for some chump to give her free food so she can move along to the next unsuspecting victim and do the same. She's knowingly taking advantage of people by lying (implicitly, if not explicitly) about her intentions. That's fraud.	/r/MensRights	25/01/23 06:07 PM
11	I don’t know what’s left Yeah, it's really hard not to be demoralized. Girls outperform boys in every level of education, yet they still receive preferential treatment, and receive higher grades than boys for the same work. Women outnumber men at colleges, yet there remain loads of women-only scholarships. Young women are earning more money than young men, and yet people harp on about the supposed wage gap, despite the opposite rapidly becoming true. It's one thing when feminists convince society that men are privileged…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	18/01/23 05:45 PM
14	"Women need more sleep because fighting the patriarchy is exhausting" They're right, in a sense. Making up nonsense reasons to get angry all day every day is exhausting.	/r/MensRights	17/01/23 05:16 PM
0	Radical feminists treat men exactly how Conservatives treat minorities Sort of proving your point for you, a lot of those stereotypes you listed aren’t true, they are just embedded in our cultural narrative and most people don’t think critically about where their prejudices come from. Agreed. I would add on that this is how I feel about "conservatives hating minorities". It just gets said over and over again, rarely with any supporting evidence. Even if true as a stereotype, it isn't right to generalize such a large group of people as being one way. But I also thin…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	14/01/23 12:55 AM
2	Radical feminists treat men exactly how Conservatives treat minorities Agreed. One of my least favorite parts of this subreddit is how frequently people paint everyone right of center as being evil. The irony here is that OP is judging conservatives for treating minorities the way feminists treat men, and yet he's treating conservatives that same way, by generalizing and demonizing a large group.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	14/01/23 12:53 AM
4	Who's gatekeeping the discussion? Yeah, it's been pretty clear for a while now that feminism (and more broadly speaking, identity politics) is essentially a religion. It doesn't matter how many logical points you present, or how much factual data you have to support your arguments. It's like trying to convince a Christian that God isn't real. You're just wasting your time.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	13/01/23 11:25 PM
8	What are you guys thoughts on people who call men privileged? I think it's nonsense, but it's no surprise to hear about the users on AITA saying it. Once upon a time, that was a decent subreddit. But for a long time now, it's been a subreddit with no value unless you enjoy performing mental gymnastics in order to explain how the man in any given story is the asshole, and the woman in any given story is an innocent angel.	/r/MensRights	10/01/23 11:53 PM
4	“I hate the women against men argument, but”… proceeds to fuel the argument more. Also, ignores the fact a lot of conversations from there show toxicity from both men and women. Yeah, it's kind of insane how consistent it is. I'm not gay, but I have definitely been "one of the girls" in multiple different friend groups. Sometimes, because I'm close enough friends with them that I'm viewed as non-threatening, and other times, because I'm already in a long-term, committed relationship (as is the case right now). Either way, there have been multiple points in my life when I've been consistently around for "girl time". And holy cow, it's consistent. No details are off limit…	/r/MensRights	10/01/23 08:17 PM
4	“I hate the women against men argument, but”… proceeds to fuel the argument more. Also, ignores the fact a lot of conversations from there show toxicity from both men and women. It really is true. Most of the guys I know don't hold back when it comes to vulgar language (for example, "cum" shows up in one form or another quite frequently in Jackbox games). But I honestly can't remember the last time I was around a man who openly discussed details regarding his sex life, details about women he's had sex with, or anything like that. Meanwhile, most of the women I am friends with are very open about such things. It's pretty much a guarantee that when one of them has sex wit…	/r/MensRights	10/01/23 08:05 PM