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Reproduction is required to continue your society, to state the obvious. Mess with that at your society's peril.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 12:14 AM
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Farmers grew crops to keep their society(and families) alive. Many more people were required to farm then than now. Soldiers fought to keep their families alive. Wars were more common, and more men had to fight than now. Smiths worked to keep their sons and society(soldiers) alive. You knew your local blacksmith. He knew you. All of these things boil down to keeping society functioning. This is intrinsically attractive to women. You (the man) have a role you are filling and are needed. Men are r…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 08:44 PM
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I'm 99% willing to bet that if a man saw pictures of your exes lined up, he'd find other similarities than just personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 07:48 PM
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The societal impacts of what you're suggesting, that men stop self-improving in order to attract more/more beautiful women, are extremely detrimental. Most men, absent the motivator of appealing to women, would be happy at a job where they can do the least work possible in order to have a TV that they can watch the game on, a PS5, and internet connection, and maybe the ability to go out with the boys and get beers on a Friday night. We are seeing more and more men actually follow your advise, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 07:39 PM
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I think OP is mostly confused about, "Do they want to deal with men? No. Do they want to get married? You betcha." Flipping this around, it would be, "Do men want to commit to women? No. Do they want to have sex with them? You betcha." A large percentage of women, and men, seem incapable of compromising any of their wants these days, leading to far more single people. Women want kids, the status of marriage, and to show off with a big wedding, and are looking for a man who fits perfectly into th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 05:15 PM
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30,000 years ago seems like a subconscious attempt to make that reality seem much farther away than it really was.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 09:51 PM
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You mean 800 years ago with Genghis Khan.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 08:08 PM
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Don't forget, life is an infinite game, not a finite game. There is no buzzer, we can't take a snapshot and say the West is and will always be better. Rome at its peak was better than the Gothic kingdoms that came after it, but it still fell to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 02:49 AM
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Totally missed the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 02:19 AM
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It's no fantasy. It's going to be a nightmare. You may think that isn't the choice in front of us, but only time will tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 11:24 PM
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Traditions are simply experiments of the past that worked.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 11:12 PM
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As I said previously, we are currently witnessing quite the test of the individualistic worldview. Time will tell whether a society that values individual freedom above societal obligations can survive. My money is on collapse, but you may be of the mindset that a society where no men need to be drafted and no women need to have kids and get married can survive and thrive. Seems unlikely.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 09:49 PM
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So, you believe everyone has the right and freedom to be completely self-centered, not just you. Congrats.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 09:41 PM
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Freedom from, or freedom to? Freedom in and of itself is nothing worthy of protecting. I see absolutely no reason to protect someone's freedom to be a fentanyl junkie on the street.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 09:34 PM
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Such a short-sighted, self-centered worldview. "What's the point of building a cathedral if you never get to see it finished?" Be part of something greater than yourself. You are not God, and your decisions are not infallible.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 09:29 PM
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I've been waiting for some lib to make this take for awhile. You value individual freedom to such a degree that if you had to choose between that and the continuation of your society, you'd prefer society die. You realize this likely means another less free society will sweep in and enforce their worldview, right? Freedom above all dooms a society, and we will see the end result of total individualism and atomization very soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 07:07 AM
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So he treats you no differently, and pays for your college, but the second you can't financial gain from his presence in your life, you're planning on cutting him off/distancing yourself from him, because his inner thoughts aren't all unicorns and rainbows? You're a case study as to why RP beliefs become popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 10:12 PM
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It actually would be, yes, it were the case that other cultures became so antinatalist that they destroy themselves. Nigerians would inherit the world, and therefore necessarily be the most successful country, no contest.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 07:46 PM
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One is obviously better. If these are the only options, we know which one will continue. Those in the death cult will die, the others... won't. The sole purpose of a species is to survive and propagate. I don't give a flying fuck if it offends your 21st century liberal worldview.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 07:24 PM
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Where does OP speak about projection lol I'm being dismissive and judgemental, which he actually talked about
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 04:12 PM
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No. Enjoy society now because it's going to get worse before it gets better. Every statistic is pointing towards population collapse in Western (and Asian) nations and decreased sexual relations. I hope I'm wrong, I hope something comes along that stops us from reaching a breaking point, but I doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 07:04 AM
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Wow. That sub is an eye-opener. It really is "Step 1: Be Attractive, Step 2: Don't Be Unattractive" Invisible men and women exist. Hard to see them, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 01:55 AM
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Why would you want to sleep with a woman who's narcissistic, entitled, self-centered, etc.... Sounds like most men are operating in a very similar way. "I don't care about you, but I want something from you."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 04:36 AM
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Of course, they're the happiest. What do you think taking anti-depressants does? It's their happy pill, duh!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 09:01 PM
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Curious to those saying it "goes both ways," have you ever heard a man say he was in a "situation-ship?" Going further, if you have, was he the one who wanted commitment? These men seem like extreme outliers, most men seem to refer to these kinds of arrangements as "FWB" or... they just don't refer to them at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 09:00 PM
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So back to my original observation that she wouldnt be one, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 04:46 AM
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Then you would have been a streetwalker in the 1900s, miss, because everyone judged that decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 08:07 PM
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Wow... there was zero critical thinking in this response. Your local community would include the people whose opinions you just earlier stated you care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 04:20 PM
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Two people can not like each other an exactly equal amount. There's always going to be one person who likes the other more. This theory that he's describing hypothesizes that it's better for the woman to be the "adorer" and the man to be the "adored" because it meets the requirements of the female brain to have the highest quality partner she can find. If she is head over heels for him, he must be something special. The issue here is getting the relationship out of the "situation-ship" stage, as…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 10:18 AM
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Sounds like, if your local community shamed you for being promiscuous, you would care. Obviously, it's much easier to not give a fck about what random internet strangers think. Which would mean you probably wouldn't have had casual sex back in the early 1900s. Food for thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 10:06 AM
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That, or end it all, like the woman who lived as a man to see if men were really telling the truth about how hard it was to date women did. Look it up if you want, but I warn you, it's pretty sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 10:02 AM
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Women experience higher levels of negative emotions than men, on average. It's called being neurotic. The things that should worry men, often don't. The things that shouldn't worry women, often do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 09:59 AM
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"Government" enforced.... It's not going to be government enforced. If anything like that happens, it will be socially and religiously enforced like the past. Past societies needed more people to defend themselves against their neighbors and it was an advantage to have more people in your society than your neighbors did. Everyone knew this deep down, so they enforced marriage and procreation. It wasn't a government mandate, though, it came from your family and religious community. It's possible …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 09:43 AM
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"That said, yes while the population drops there will be big issues" You won't live long enough to see what comes after these issues. So have fun dealing with the coming chaos while your mind remains in the utopian clouds.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 02:11 AM
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I would look at fertility rates of developed countries if I were you. We don't have enough people who want to have children in developed nations to keep the population stable. Based on current trends, we will see lots of old people soon, but not many young people. Lots of people in nursing homes, not many nurses, what could go wrong? The solution to this is to incentivize children from educated individuals in developed nations, unless you're someone who believes we should have open borders and o…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 04:35 PM
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Miss, I don't understand how you can type this comment with a straight face. If the majority of humans weren't desperate to have children, the human race would go extinct.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 06:05 AM
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People* in the past were treated terribly. Men who didn't serve a purpose were far, far more disposable than women.
/r/MensRights07/03/24 07:51 AM
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Ya... if you don't think women have crazy takes online, you're in the wrong places. There's a lot of crazy out there, you just have to know where to look.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 07:22 AM
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Best way to vet is to have another person you trust of the opposite gender spend time with your potential future spouse. There are just things other guys can pick up that you won't be able to, just as there are things other women will pick up that a guy won't be able to. How many times have we seen the - "She was flirting with you" "What? No way, I didn't even notice" - scene play out? That's why your parents' approval USED to be so important. They know what to look for. Now we say, "Fuck all th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 07:19 AM
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You still don't get it... it's pointless to continue this. Have a nice life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 09:24 PM
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That's not what I'm talking about... go read half of the posts on r politics and look at the accounts. They're not asking for donations, they're setting a political climate and curating the narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 09:08 PM
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Definitely a bit oversimplified, but I was simplifying it to make a general observation about how divided young people are. It's one thing to make your entire personality about politics and another thing entirely to shun people when they have the courage to voice their opinions, which may not completely align with yours. These people are quasi-opposites, and although not many exist, the ones who do are quite loud.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 09:06 PM
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What got your panties in a bunch?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 09:01 PM
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I deliberately made it sound that way, because of your initial post. Figured, put it in terms you'd understand
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 02:42 AM
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We know for a fact PACs and other political groups hire people to post comments, memes, and farm social media engagement for their preferred party and issues. They wouldn't pay for that, if it had no impact.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 02:39 AM
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You seemed to have missed my point. But, to yours: I wouldn't discount the effect changing the cultural zeitgeist can have, one comment at a time. I also wouldn't overemphasize how important voting is. In many states, your vote doesn't matter. Vote for Republicans in California, or Democrats in Florida. You're making a difference!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 11:46 PM
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I'll bite. This most likely got the reaction it did because of a combination of factors, but mostly because of the song they're dancing to. A rap song with lyrics such as "shake it for the camera" is, as the manosphere pointed out, incredibly loud and in-your-face. Many men are becoming more conservative, and enjoying music that encourages sexual displays is something a lot men are getting pretty sick of, if you can believe it. It's because it's been taken way too far. I'll go even further. This…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 10:30 PM
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This is a great point. Go be a degenerate. It helps you get laid. But, you have an opinion on important matters related to the future of this country? Total ick. I can practically hear the powers-that-be manically laughing in their mansions.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 10:05 PM
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I'm sorry you've never heard anyone who wanted to spoil their girl. Definitely have said similar and heard my guy friends slip in the flowers, gifts, vacations, they bought for their girl, with some form of "because she's so awesome" at the end of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 09:57 PM
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There are more young women in NYC than young men. As well, NYC is one of the areas where you have some of the highest paid young men in the country. It's perfect for men with high paying careers who want to date around, as like you said, they have a lot of options. This is why women complain about NYC so much, and men complain about areas where there aren't very many attractive women (Hicksville, nowhere State). Attractive women naturally gravitate towards big cities, so for those young men at t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 09:53 PM
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Men provide: Resources (dates, housing, vehicles, gifts) Status (I can show him off to my friends) Emotional Connection (aka his time, he listens to me) The more of these things a woman gets, she will provide more of the following: Intimacy (it's almost always the woman who sets the amount, frequency, and passion of the sessions) -Nurturing (if you provide a lot to her life, she will try to find ways to make yours easier and more peaceful) -Family (while this one is going out of style, having ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 09:44 PM
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"I love her so much, I surprised her with flowers and chocolates just for being her." Doesn't sound weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 09:32 PM
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The institutions of science can fall prey to corruption and elitism in the same way the institutions of religion can. Not every scientist acts morally, objectively, and virtuously. "9 out of 10 climate scientists agree they'd like more funding."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 01:15 AM
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When everyone(read, the majority of people) abandons religion in favor of "science" most will still treat the scientific findings they believe in dogmatically. The people arguing on here are not PhD researchers with extensive backgrounds in statistics. Science becomes religious in the same way past religions were. Just like priests read the Bible in Latin(a language only taught to the upper class) and translated its meaning to the vernacular of the day, "intellectuals" read complicated survey re…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 01:00 AM
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I've learned that people these days treat studies like religions. They're open for basically any interpretation and people will cherry-pick the studies (and interpretations of those stuides) that best suit their current argument. As well, if someone makes an anecdotal argument, someone will dispute that with a study. If someone makes an argument based on a study, someone will dispute that with their anecdotal evidence. Scientific studies are becoming more and more religious. It really just depen…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 12:40 AM
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OP is right, you love deflecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 11:06 PM
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"I'm 24 and been in long-term relationships with 5-10 guys" is a past and "I'm 24 and slept with about 50 people, dated some of them" is also a past. One is a lot worse than the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 07:25 PM
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Men primarily generate excess resources for family creation, while women use excess resources for the "luxurious lifestyle" you mentioned. Women also follow trends much more than men, which means that as society cuts out the "middleman" more money will increasingly flow to a small group of companies through women. We all know the ones. Gucci, Louis Viutton, and Hermes, to name a few, but this exists in all markets. Women want the "it" car in the garage of the "it" house in the "in" location. Men…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 06:57 PM
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From that statement alone I could deduce you're a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 04:13 AM
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It's also naturally attractive to a lot of women. Treat her like a celebrity and she'll treat you like a fan. Treat her like a fan, and she'll treat you like a celebrity.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 04:11 AM
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Most men on this sub don't have the balls to treat a woman like a starter girlfriend, that's why they're here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 03:23 AM
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I might add, while they didn't like the game itself, they did like the boys who routinely found themselves in the Kings Square. They'd sit nearby, not too close, but close enough, and watch. It's pretty primal, if you think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 12:22 PM
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As the top comment said, attractiveness is their interest, but it's a bit deeper than that. Men actually like to arrange their social groups based on hierarchy. An anecdotal example from my childhood would be the elementary school game of 4-sqaure. It's 4 squares on the ground and a bouncy ball, teams of two, and your objective is to hit the ball into another team's squares so they can't return it. Some other niche rules, but you get the point, basically 4 team tennis with a bigger ball and usin…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 10:03 AM
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You brought about 18 cans of worms into the discussion with this response, and I dont much care to open them all. While a lot of what you said is valid, you are still missing the main point. It seems to me you are fixated on this specific piece of advice you've heard some RP guys say and are taking it to the extreme. Do you legitimately believe a lot of these guys think they're going to date a 19 year old supermodel when they're 39? A couple of them can be loud online and delusional, sure, but a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 04:43 AM
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Again, most of these guys already don't have a lot of chanes. Also, 60+% of young men are single, as opposed to just over 30% of young women. More women date older than you(or they) are willing to admit. https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/3868557-most-young-men-are-single-most-young-women-are-not/
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 10:08 PM
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And, listens to his advice on men. So many 20 year old women do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 08:47 AM
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Dude 1 in that case is likely a hot piece of ass with no substance behind him. Hes fun for the night or the short term situationship, but not for the long haul. If he tries to chase her, and she picks the stable guy who doesn't exite her as much, she has likely already been through the ringer with guys like dude 1 and is ready for something more stable. It's unlikely a 20 year old woman goes with guy 2 over guy 1, but more likely for a 30 year old woman. If she has no experience with guys like d…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 07:51 AM
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I didn't say it was the only reason, just one of the main reasons. And yes, many women would love to sleep with the DJ once, but wouldn't be interested in creating a life with him. His schedule is too crazy and/or she knows he can't be trusted around other women. It's "wont" because she knows he's a player. She "would if she could" if she could change him, but that's highly unlikely as he has an abundance of options. Girls usually don't make guys who are out of their league wait, so it's very un…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 07:46 AM
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You're confused because a lot of men the redpill appeals to have to wait until 35-40 before they start receiving legitimate attention from women, because it takes them that long to build up their status, primairly in the form of wealth. So the advice is, it's better to wait that long and have more options who actually like you, than to beg for the love of a woman who doesn't care for you when you're 25, broke, and have no charisma(as many guys who find themselves attracted to RP ideas are) If yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 04:10 AM
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One of the main reasons "she doesn't expect much from him" because she knows he's out of her league. Lets say a girl, on a one-time trip to Vegas, goes up on stage and meets the DJ. He likes how she looks and asks her back to his suite. Now, she could refuse and say "take me on a date first" but she often doesn't because she wants the experience of being picked by this guy. She wants to be the one he goes home with at the end of the night and doesn't expect anything more than that from him. That…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 03:55 AM
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I've explained this to two other people already. "Jumping straight to the prize" in a heros journey story would be if Frodo instantly teleported to Mordor in book one, dropped the ring in Mount Doom, teleported back in time for dinner, and was praised all the same. The action has to be harrowing, life-threaring, and difficult to receive "legend" status for it. The more challenging the action, the more acclaim it will receive. People wouldn't watch or remember the above story. Porn is not challen…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 02:58 AM
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"Frodo writes down the bulk of the final work, using Bilbo's diary and 'many pages of loose notes.' At the close of Tolkien's main narrative, the work is almost complete, and Frodo leaves the task to his gardener Samwise Gamgee." From the Wikipedia page. He left it in Sam's possession so he could finish the book. But the point is the act of writing the book. In lore and in our world, Frodo will be remembered.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 09:41 PM
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It's not, you just need to abstract the concept of fame a bit. Since these are fictional characters in our world, they can acquire fame and glory in our world. Is there some epic tale of adventure and heroics that's greater than Lord of the Rings out there, locked up in an attic? The author purposefully spent his life writing an epic story for no one to ever read it? I find that quite unlikely. Heroic actions lead to recognition, people instinctually know this, and they write their stories and o…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 09:17 PM
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When someone writes about a man on the heros journey, are they not hoping their character will be remembered as great? In a very meta way, remembrance is what the writers of every heros journey tale are hoping for, and they use heroic actions because we instinctually yearn for heroic men to remember. Would Star Wars be anywhere near as memorable if Luke stayed on Tatooine without conflict? If Frodo stayed in the Shire?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 08:52 PM
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Nothing wrong at all with finding the Lord later in life. To clarify, what I meant by that last part is some women will, to put it lightly, go out and have fun with a lot of guys when they're younger, and then turn to Christ later in life and try to say "now my past doesn't matter." Sadly for them, though, Christ may forgive and forget, but biology does not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 10:46 AM
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In Destiny's case, I think he chose to buy into the blue pill because it made him a lot of money. He makes money by appealing to mostly young men and women who are very idealistic(some may say naive) in their views on the world and dating. Can't blame him on that, really. The best salesmen always believe in their product to a fault. I think he bought into his talking points too much, and it bit him in the ass. He wanted to "walk the walk" for his audience. "See, I'm married to this hot blonde Sw…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 10:39 AM
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But yet, he was all the same. If a society needs men to commit great deeds but die in the process, the only thing they can offer him in return is that the society will remember his actions and revere him in death. And many men fantasize about taking society up on that deal. They'll trade their mortal body for immortality through legend. Being selfless is selfish, in some sense. If society one day decides those deeds require no great remembrance, watch how quickly men decide not to partake in har…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 12:09 AM
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Fantasy* Why do men fantasize about stopping the school shooter or saving the bus load of people from a fire? It's because people will respect and remember them for their heroic and brave actions. Their name will be exalted. If those actions led to no positive consequences, men wouldn't fantasize about it. Frodo was honored by the entire kingdom of Gondor, and will surely go down as a legend of their time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 11:55 PM
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When asking women for advice on what they like it men, they will almost always tell you qualities in a man that make them feel safe and comfortable around him, but they leave out the fact they already need to be sexually attracted to him for those qualities to matter. A woman has to be incredibly, incredibly sure she won't be judged harshly before she says, "I really just want a buff, tall dude to fuck me hard in the bushes just out of view of the music festival. That'd be hot." Men have two hea…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 11:33 PM
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I'm so sad to see all these guys saying porn... how is the Hero's Journey not the main response here??? It's THE male archetype. Come from nothing, build your skills and status up, do great deads, become a legend. What more could a man want? Some silly porn cannot possibly compare.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 11:25 PM
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Possible (for a 30+ single mom to land a 0.1% guy), but extremely unlikely statistically. Also possible for a blue-pilled dude to have an open marriage work out, but again, it is extremely unlikely. Red pill thinking embraces acting based on probability, not possibility. Blue pill says, "Manifest! Chase your dreams, you're that 0.1% anomaly!"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 11:06 PM
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There are still some fringe reasons, but not worth going into if you're looking for love. Go into it with a positive attitude, and hopefully you'll be the guy to make it work. Good luck! Though, if you are "Christpilled," I would recommend getting involved in a local church community. Maybe try a few different ones. Once you find a community you like, it should be much easier to find a date with a woman who shares your values. Be wary of born again Christians, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 10:41 PM
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Women think way less about these long-term future projections than men do. It's hardwired. Just look at the majority of responses here, which are basically, "I'm just focused on my immediate surroundings and day-to-day life." Women will care when they see the results of the depopulation* in their daily lives, but not before. The good rule of thumb is that women care about the survival of the species more than the individual. Meaning, if she thinks, as many women do today, "were killing the plane…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 04:00 AM
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Almost certainly, they've experienced a friendly guy chatting with them platonically, then later on asking them out and completely flipping how they interact after being rejected.Getting mean, huffy, calling her names, etc. It's usually not too bad if the rejection happens quickly, but if the guy mulls around in the friend zone for a while, it can really come out of left field for the woman. This situation can be emotionally damaging to a woman as well as the rejected guy, because she goes from …
/r/MensRights12/01/24 03:50 AM
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Humans form patterns? Isn't that just the basis for categorical thinking? Sure, you can be that guy(or often girl) who attempts to rebutt every generalization, stereotype, or statistic with, "Well I know some people who don't fit that generalization, so it's not true," but that's also a really dumb way of looking at the world. If you and your tribe were being stalked by a tiger, and 4 out of the 5 people that went to go investigate a certain cave didn't come back, would you say, "Oh well I actua…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 03:01 AM
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Your questions require a lot of explanation, but in summary, times have changed. The fertility rate is rapidly falling in the West. This isn't the early 1900s anymore, where people were having 5-6 children, and would settle down and get married at an average age of 21. Average marriage age has now been pushed until around 30, and average children per woman has fallen to under replacement levels in many Western nations. Why do you think the US is pushing so hard for immigration? People aren't hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 02:43 AM
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Do you believe there are roles that men are better at than women? And vice versa? Going further, do you think each human is born with the capacity to do anything any other human can do? If so, do you want no judgemental difference between men and women? Because that seems to be your basis for this "liberation" from my perspective. You want men to be liberated from their societal responsibilities of protection(war), provisoning(status), and stoicism(emotional control) because women are being libe…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 07:33 AM
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Boils down to a pretty simple concept; men don't spend as much time thinking about the little things in their relationship as women do. Men talk with other men about their objectives in life. Concrete things they're doing or planning. Their job, their hobbies. Women have always been required to be more in tune with their emotions than men, as babies are always right and completely governed by emotions. You need at least one parent to be able to read what the baby wants from its emotional outburs…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 07:18 AM
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Yes, it is growing as a trend, and to best understand it, you need to think about the history of human intersexual interactions. Be warned, ye of modern morals, below there be monsters. For the vast majority of human history, women were dependent on a small group of men(their tribe) to keep them and their offspring alive, as those men primairly hunted for the meat, required by omnivores for a balanced diet, as well as kept the tribe safe from other predators, animals and humans alike. As well, m…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 06:52 AM
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Just today a dad posted that his son felt he was in a relationship with his AI girlfriend. 20 year old dude. It's coming to the masses, and sooner than you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 06:13 AM
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Agreed. If you have to speed date as a woman, you're not getting approached by the men you want to be approached by. Every woman would rather have Prince Charming approach her naturally and charismatically. Every guy there knows he's the "I'm being settled for" option. Generalization all around. But men operate based on probability, not possibility. The probability of me finding a lovely, attractive woman who really wants me and isn't settling for me is low in speed dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 04:09 AM
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Jason Momoa, Chris Hemsworth, Patrick Demsey, etc, all have a high comparative percentage of women who think "he's the one," but yes, it makes complete sense there's a lot of variance. Women judge men on a whole bucket list of traits, and each woman weighs the importance of those traits slightly differently. It's similar for men, but since men typically rate based off of less traits, there's less variance. I might not be into brunettes, so maybe the 10/10 brunette for most is a 9/10 for me, wher…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 11:04 PM
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Ha! I did account for the guys who are not online but said it was becoming rarer. It depends on your age range. 40 year old guys are going to have less exposure than 20 year old guys who grew up on Instagram, Reddit, and Twitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 05:18 PM
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Most mens spaces have some form of red pilled memes that have gradually entered the space, especially any spaces where men are talking about women. If he literally knows nothing about it, it means he's rarely ever online, which is possible, but also pretty rare these days. Now, the smart guys say jack shit nothing about their knowledge of these redpill things when talking to women. It's like mentioning Andrew Tate, it's not a good strategy. This is because women expect men to "just get it." If y…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 11:07 AM
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https://twitter.com/tishray/status/1516046991960195077?t=lOVlT9U8WS_Zv8awIEJEFw&s=19 How women rate men backs up your claims, but that's because a 6 isn't the top 40% of men, it's about the top 10% Men rate women much more objectively, and almost entirely based on beauty, which means slightly less than 10% of women are 10/10 beautiful to men. Where as with women, it's basically 0%. I would argue it's 1. Just 1 guy they think of as perfect. Everyone else falls off very quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 10:35 AM
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I was only speaking about the "19 year old bombshell" which I assume meant 10/10 woman, but looks like the post was edited to say 8/10
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 09:49 PM
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Oh ya, she'll find a guy if she's okay with the 4/10 doormat. But she probably isn't going to be. The real sentence should be, "a woman over time becomes more undesirable because [reasons] and eventually will not be able to find a man she actually loves, admires, and respects to commit to her. The 19 year old bombshell should get married between that age and 24 if she wants the highest probability of finding a top-quality husband. But, women seem to often base life decisions on possibility, not …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 09:48 AM
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The chivalric code exists(existed) for a very good reason. Women in the 1300s did not have the same rights or physical abilities as men, so it was necessary to establish a separate code that men were supposed to treat women by to establish some semblance of equality. The issue is that chivalry no longer needs to be applied in the modern day to establish pseudo-equality, at least most of the time in most western countries, because the disparities it was created to solve have disappeared by other …
/r/TheRedPill05/10/23 06:24 PM
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I typically want people (in the US, where I live) to have children, as most countries in the West are below the replacement fertility level and I think that's a bad thing for the future of our nations. That DOES NOT mean I want to force anyone to have children. I want our society to incentivize family formation and child-rearing. I want our society to incentivize community formation as well, as I feel social media has caused local communities in many areas to all but vanish. If people felt socia…
/r/MensRights29/09/23 11:28 PM
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I would love to see OP try as well. Should be fun
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 07:22 PM
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Eh, revolutions have happened before, and they mostly consist of men.
/r/MensRights01/09/23 12:34 AM
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Can't wait for men to band together and say "Enough!"
/r/MensRights31/08/23 10:16 PM
8

?? You see what attracts your mom to your dad, or vice versa, and emulate those characteristics when dating. If you never see your parents interact in a loving way, you emulate that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 09:21 PM
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You really don't believe growing up in a two parent household with parents who love and support each other contributes to a child's dating success? They don't explicitly teach you. Just like most things children learn, it's taught by the child watching the behavior of the people around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 07:33 PM
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Difference is people are okay with taking care of women who are a burden, but certainly not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 07:31 PM
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Protestants and Catholics are both still around. I suspect the same will occur here.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 11:46 PM
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I'm not really saying which "side" you or anyone should pick, but merely that this period of unencumbered liberal growth will end, in a similar way to how the Renaissance period ended. Brother against brother.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 11:14 PM
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It will be met with an equally strong push for the new religion/ideology that's forming in extremely liberal circles. See the 30-years war in the 1600s for a good prediction of the next few decades. Protestants breaking away from Catholics caused a major schism. This new schism will work similarly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 11:04 PM
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A resurgence of "conversative" values, molded for the modern era. Periods of liberal growth(like the last 80 years since WW2) simply can't last forever. The big cycles of history won't allow it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 10:55 PM
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Back to exactly how it was? No. But will the sexual revolution continue unabated without serious pushback soon? Also no.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 07:47 PM
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I see, so this law mostly prevents men who "wake up" and realize their spouse has probably been unfaithful from confirming their suspicions. Thanks!
/r/MensRights29/08/23 07:32 PM
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Individual liberty only goes so far. If the survival of the nation is at stake, because a large enough percentage of people are no longer voluntarily choosing to contribute to its surivial, our individual autonomy will be curtailed. By force, if necessary. Tale as old as time. It's coming.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 07:21 PM
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I'm very unfamiliar with French laws, so maybe this isn't an issue, but wouldn't this open up the possibility of a woman randomly claiming some (rich) man was the father of her child, and he'd have no recourse, even though he knows for a fact he never had sex with her?
/r/MensRights29/08/23 07:11 PM
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I'd argue more likely autistic. Their minds were racing with extremely abstract mathematical and scientific concepts, rather than "get pussy now."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 10:04 PM
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You make a very valid point, and I realize I'm arguing for a very small percentage of men, but without ever having a wife, Issac Newton completely changed physics as we know it. I'm sure that gave him quite a bit of validation. It can be found in other areas, but a woman by your side surely makes it easier to feel validated as a man. So I do see how you could classify that as a need.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 09:25 PM
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I mean, do you, really? Issac Newton died a virgin, Nikola Tesla too, I believe. It's not really a need like food or water or shelter. You'd survive, and maybe even become a scientific pioneer.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 06:40 PM
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Agreed. This group wouldn't fight for anything except the last donut at the coffee shop.
/r/MensRights28/08/23 04:49 PM
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Do you plan on seeing her again? Is she hot enough to try, or did her "what would you do if a girl you went out with once came to your doorstep with a baby" question remove that idea from your mind?
/r/MensRights20/08/23 12:57 AM
1

This is also happening in the US, just to a smaller extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 07:47 PM
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Lol, that's always the solution. Just tax the wealthy and it'll all be rainbows and sunshine. Good fucking luck with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 05:21 PM
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Women have no duty to country. That's only men. Got it. So, why can they vote again?
/r/MensRights19/08/23 05:01 PM
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Anyone celebrating depopulation like this doesn't understand demographics. Whos going to take care of all the elderly if they outnumber children 2 to 1? Who's going to pay into the system for their medical and end of life care? Lots of suffering to come if we go down this path, be warned.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 04:52 PM
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This is the correct take. I've also pointed this out to people who saw the movie. The "Patriarchy" was implemented with extreme ease when all the men decided to do so, but to get the "Matriarchy" back, it required pitting the Ken's against each other. That's not a good message for radical feminists. They need men at each other's throats. If men collecitvely decide to install the Kendom.... it will happen
/r/MensRights18/08/23 07:28 PM
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If you accept this harsh truth, many modern worldviews absolutely shatter. You'll make few friends going down this path, but I'm one of them. You're right.
/r/MensRights18/08/23 01:43 AM
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I agree. I think it showed women were actually happy in the "Kendom." It also showed that once men decide together to create the Kendom, it happens pretty fast. The only way to get rid of it is to pit men against each other.
/r/MensRights17/08/23 11:22 PM
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I hope I never become so infatuated with a woman I'm willing to murder another man based on her word alone. God spare me.
/r/MensRights17/08/23 11:18 PM
1

Ouch, didn't even take your last name. Did you really think it was ever going to work?
/r/MensRights17/08/23 11:17 PM
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I just don't understand the cognitive dissonance happening in the world right now. It's crystal clear that men and women are different from the neck down. I just can't fathom why it's so hard to imagine we'd be different from the neck up as well, you head is connected to your body, after all.
/r/MensRights17/08/23 10:58 PM
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Copy successful men. Do not listen to women on the internet. They do not have your best interests at heart.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 05:53 PM
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Because female beauty standards have existed for far longer. Male beauty standards increasing is a direct result of women becoming more financially independent and an overabundance of options. When you no longer need men, and theres more men than ever in your "virtual vicinity" it's obvious that the standards for men's physical attractiveness will increase.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 02:13 AM
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"A hysterectomy is a surgical procedure to remove the womb(uterus). You'll no longer be able to get pregnant after the operation. If you have not already gone through the menopause, you'll no longer have periods, regardless of your age." You no longer have periods, which explains why you are no longer in pain, which explains why you don't get moody or emotional during that time. It's all basic cause and effect, I honestly can't see how you don't realize that periods are the base cause of this mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 08:56 PM
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Being in a whole lot of pain is a direct consequence of your period, so yes, your period did make you emotionally volatile.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 08:12 PM
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Agree completely. Men were productive because society rewarded them for being productive. If less and less men are getting rewarded for putting in the work, why not fake it?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 08:03 PM
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Because the one thing women still absolutely love about marriage is looking beautiful at the wedding and having the entire day be about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 07:29 PM
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Holy shit, and I thought I could be deranged. I've been upstaged magnificently.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 11:48 PM
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Because we as a western society place no value on female chastity anymore. I would assume if you brought up "You're not a virgin, why are you wearing white to your wedding?" to most women these days, they wouldn't have even made that connection. No one actually understands what marriage used to represent anymore. It's a contract with the state now, nothing more.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 04:04 PM
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Basically no one answered the question specifically. What, specifically, do men and women need to bring to the table? Everyone is so scared to make sex based generalizations, it seems. Even here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 07:20 PM
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Men are pretty tired of companies pandering to everyone but them, and we're starting to vote with our wallets. I'm done with being at the bottom of the "inclusivity hierarchy." Comapnies that pander to a market that doesn't really even buy their product can sod off.
/r/MensRights10/08/23 06:27 PM
1

This trend is true, but women will not admit it. The left has lost the fight for masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 06:24 PM
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Go buy some Bud Light then buddy. The rest of us aren't touching that shit with a 10-foot pole.
/r/MensRights10/08/23 06:08 PM
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When you convince men women are their equals, this is what happens. You get more feminized men. Careful what you wish for.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 05:37 PM
1

Could be helpful for some men, but we aren't having enough children already. I don't think we need to be pushing people to have more sex and less children any more than we already are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 05:28 PM
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Still no. No invasive surgeries down there. Everything works just fine now and I'm not risking that. I also want to have children one day. Maybe my answer would be different if I didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 05:19 PM
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No. Full stop, NO. I'm not going to fuck with my hormones. If women want to, go for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 05:15 PM
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"Till death do us part" sums up my views on marriage
/r/MensRights09/08/23 12:30 AM
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Fleeting. You could wake up on the wrong side of the bed 4-7 years into the marriage and "feel like" he no longer provides that. Annnnnddddd divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 12:23 AM
1

I am only able to do all of that myself because of how much I rely on other people to make it easier. You need other people to be "self-sufficient" in the first place. Don't you get it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 10:31 PM
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Lovely poetry*, but you needed someone to keep your internet access running to send that message, Mr. Self Sufficient.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 10:25 PM
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Go live in the woods, Mr. Self Sufficient.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 10:17 PM
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I probably shouldn't have engaged, it's clear they are caught up in this "individual hedonism trumps all" mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 10:05 PM
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Love and lust are literally the definition of want rather than need. You don't need the person you lust after, you just want them a lot. Care in sickness and health isn't really a need if you have money. You can pay someone to take care of you, or go to the hospital. The financial is what keeps most women around, it's just a fact. That primal lust will fade in time, so if your relationship is entirely based on want, it's much more likely to end early, which is exactly why the divorce rate is inc…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 10:03 PM
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I do not trust you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 09:21 PM
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Someone needs to have children for our society to continue. You seem to value individual freedom over the health of society. Good luck with that long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 09:17 PM
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I need a woman if I want to have children. Men still need women, at least for that. A relationship based on "want" is not the same thing as a relationship based on "need." One will outlast the other in almost all cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 09:11 PM
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What other reason does a woman NEED a man for, other than financial security? Is it really so terrible for a man to aspire to feel needed by his woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 09:07 PM
1

So... it's just general male validation? Honestly seeking to understand, as imo "pick me" indicates she wants a specific man to "pick her" and will change her behavior accordingly to make herself a good fit for his lifestyle. It may be inauthentic at first, but so are so many behaviors. "Fake it 'til you make it." If this involves being jealous of other women or instead of just one man, always attempting to be "the cool girl" that all the guys like at the expense of her friends, that's not good …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 11:26 PM
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Most women are looking for a guy who has a lot of experience, so if she's into you(finds you attractive) she will automatically begin to assume a lot of other women must as well, and therefore you've had plenty of opportunities and experience. In a vacuum with no other info, if she likes you, she'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you have experience, because it turns her on to think you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 09:56 PM
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Facial features can be fixed via jaw exercises and if necessary, surgery is available. Hairline... go search Elon Musk when he was younger. Shoulder width - Go lift bro. Exercises are available to help with that. Skin color - ya you might be screwed if you had a type that's no longer attracted to you. This one I can agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 09:40 PM
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Height is honestly the only thing that can't be changed with proper mentality and disciple.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 09:24 PM
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It's funny that female women actually makes sense as a qualifier these days.... Actually, it's sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 09:15 PM
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Ah great, here comes the fucking sass. A woman "simping" for a man is much more natural than a man "simping" for a woman. They are not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 08:07 PM
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Ya... nope. That made zero sense. Are you saying Jada is a pick me? She wears the pants in that relationship. Is THAT what you want?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 08:03 PM
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If you think Jada "follows and respects" Will, I have a bridge to sell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 07:57 PM
1

I really hate people who degrade "Pick Me" girls. Is it really so fucking terrible they want to follow and respect and their man? They actually like having their man be the captain? It's the fucking dream for most guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 07:51 PM
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Average dude would be in awe of the attention for awhile, but would slowly revert back to being average. He wouldn't know "Chad's" workout routine, skincare regiment, charmastic charm, and a bunch of other traits he worked on. Chad would be a bit depressed for a bit, but would hit the gym immediately and work to fix everything he could about this new body. They'd end up switching right back in time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 12:08 AM
1

This is correct. They do not want to love their man the same way their man loves them. They want to RESPECT their man. There's a world of difference between those two feelings. I'd rather have a woman by my side who deeply respects me rather than deeply loves me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 11:58 PM
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Don't stick your dick in crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 07:16 PM
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Lots of data out there to show that average men are having less sex, having less sexual partners, and are single more often in their youth now than young women. People are getting married less and having less children now. Men and women are also beginning to split down political lines more in the US, which will also lead to more single people due to ideological differences. All of this points in one direction, less relationships are forming and less people are coupling up long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 06:22 PM
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Well, this seems to be where we disagree. It's certainly becoming a statistically significant percentage.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 06:15 PM
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But that's not actually what these women want, right? They don't want to be single, they want a good man, but if the majority of women are saying a large percentage of men do not measure up, many will end up perpetually single. It's just a numbers game. It may be better than being in a terrible relationship, but it's certainly worse than being in a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 06:05 PM
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I mean, let's run with your logic and say that all(the vast majority) of women do not want these men, and that's one of the reasons they are leaving the dating pool. What exactly is the alternative for these women? Let's say for example 30% of age-appropriate men are now completely out of the dating market. Your post makes it seem like you do want A man, just not THESE men. If this sentiment generally holds true, it seems like for at least 30% of women, their options now are either to be involun…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 05:57 PM
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It doesn't make any sense, and if she's making you wait but you know she couldn't help herself from jumping on the last guys she was with, get out now. It won't get better.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 05:48 PM
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Which puts us all in a worse position, because these women have no need to shape up to attract a guy. I wish guys could take some of the discipline they have for working out, school, career building, etc, and apply it to women. The world would be a better place.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 03:24 PM
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"Shallow women" Ya, that's all this kind of dude attracts. Better than nothing, I suppose(?), but not the kind of women who will build a life with you and say "till death do us part." Guess it depends on what you want. If it's casual sex, more often than not that's going to be with exactly the type of woman you described. Shallow and addicted to some combination of attention, drugs, and alcohol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 02:33 PM
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No. I will shame people for certain sexual behaviors, like extreme promiscuity, because it's warranted. Shame is a useful feeling, it keeps people in line. Just because you have some hedonistic perverted desire, does not mean you have to act on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 02:10 PM
1

My favorite part of the Barbie movie was when it was completely brushed over that when the Ken's banded together, they took over Barbieland in about 15 seconds. Unintentionally based. The people who stand your way are not women, it's other men.
/r/MensRights04/08/23 12:18 AM
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1 point for black women on this one. Respect.
/r/MensRights03/08/23 11:18 PM
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Well... I mean... you can... we did for a long, long time. People just don't like being judged anymore. "No shaming" nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 10:33 PM
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I'm not really interested in giving dating advice to 30, 40, or 50 yo women, or men for that matter. They're dug into their ways and most likely will not drastically change their behavior. Of course an older woman with little luck in dating should focus on her career, that makes perfect sense. There's less of a chance she will find a man who will be able or willing to provide for her and she needs to take precautions to make sure she's financial stable for the rest of her life. The issue is that…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 10:25 PM
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This advice really just stems from the fact that men (of all races and social backgrounds) prefer women who are young and fertile, typically within the 18-24 age range. It's practical advice. On average, any random woman is going to be more attractive at 24 than 34, which will secure a better guy. Now, if you happen to be a woman who at 18-24 already falls pretty far down the "attraction hierarchy," I would recommend focusing more heavily on a career, as your chances of securing a man you want, …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 10:11 PM
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Submissive and feminine may not be exactly the same, but the terms are heavily correlated. It is much more likely for a feminine person to be submissive than a masculine person.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 08:01 PM
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It's simple, isn't it? Women are becoming more competitive with each other, while men are becoming less competitive with each other. More and more women are "leaning in" and competing for the top guys, top jobs, and top positions in society. Because of this, they constantly need to be "on top of their game," looking nice, working on their LinkedIn networking profile, and cultivating skills. Because if they dont, other women will. Men, on the other hand, are checking out. They're saying to themse…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 07:26 PM
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