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StoicGentleman/r/seduction27/08/12 04:03 AM
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First off, always assume attraction. If you're attracted to a girl, go for it. Girls will make it clear if they are not attracted to you. This girl sounds like too much work though. I would not date her, but some people have a higher tolerance for shitty behaviour.
/r/seduction05/08/16 12:39 AM
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If you've been friends for a while, be overt. Ask them out for dinner in a relatively nice place, be intimate, invite them back home and kino. I did this with a girl I was relatively close to and we wound up dating. Generally if they are already a close friend, you shouldn't treat it as a one time thing, but grow it into something more.
/r/seduction21/11/15 09:01 PM
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Too bad these days women don't want the partnership, they want the excitement
/r/seduction04/10/15 08:48 PM
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Where are these bars where people go to meet other people? Every bar I've ever been to has had people bunched together in their little friend groups with little interaction between them.
/r/seduction28/09/15 08:36 PM
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Maniacal? This is just having a good time and having basic social skills. Cleaning up your house and having tasteful decoration is not manipulation, it's being a decent person. Dressing nicely is showing your better side to people and letting them know they deserve it. Venue changing is having fun. And escalation, well if you're having a good time and enjoying their company why wouldn't you touch them? It's a basic human reaction!
/r/seduction12/08/15 01:58 PM
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Don't just ask questions. That's an interview, not a conversation. Follow up on her answers, like if she says she's majoring in music, talk about the types of music you like and her opinions. Talk about your own interests and thoughts. If she's interested in you she will follow along with her own personal thoughts, and you have made a bond. Then escalate. Touch her when making a point/making a joke. Lead the conversation down paths you find interesting. The more interested in talking about a sub…
/r/seduction29/09/14 10:58 PM
5

Don't blame your major, blame yourself for not getting out more
/r/seduction29/09/14 10:43 PM
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I'm not John Cooper, but my suggestion would be to talk to every person you meet. More social interaction leads to better social skills which leads to greater success with women.
/r/seduction01/08/14 01:03 AM
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Being completely unafraid to show who I am and to voice my opinions should I have any. If you put yourself out there, your genuine self, the right kinds of people will be attracted towards you, and you will be interesting to the girl you deserve.
/r/seduction29/07/14 03:37 PM
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The major reason why as a society we are afraid of failure is not because we condemn or frown on those who fail, it's because this current society celebrates shame. One does not need to look farther than TV and the internet to see how this happens, the celebrity news that we see always takes some tiny wrongdoing and blows it into a shamefest (such as when Jonah Hill called an asshole paparazzo a faggot, he caught a huge amount of flak for that) and we as a people lap up the apologies and feel va…
/r/seduction22/06/14 02:18 PM
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Because men become passionless and women crave passion. It's in their nature, you can't change that. A man must constantly practice game to keep both himself and his woman happy.
/r/seduction08/06/14 01:47 AM
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That's called staring. Don't do that.
/r/seduction07/06/14 04:23 PM
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Exactly. Toronto nightclubs are absolutely awful for pickup. In other cities it's not nearly as bad
/r/seduction07/06/14 04:58 AM
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Think about it like this, when you and your buddies are hanging out, chilling, shooting the shit, and one of your buddies cracks a nice joke, don't you reach out and pat him on the back or on the arm? Same deal with girls, except do it a bit lighter.
/r/seduction01/06/14 04:17 PM
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If you don't know her, talk to her first, see if you like her, and then straight up ask if she wants to hang out sometime. Get her number. It doesn't have to be awkward or weird, and if her parents try to get in the way talk to them as well and make it clear you're harmless, and they won't interfere.
/r/seduction31/05/14 06:18 PM
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Exactly. I've done enough approaches to know when a girl is just not interested, and it seems like this girl didn't have much interest. And that's ok, that's part of being outcome independent. No need to get emotional over it or to think about it too much, just move on and keep on doing what you love, and you'll find one who is best suited to you.
/r/seduction25/05/14 02:03 AM
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It's a positive feedback loop, you start improving your outer game and hitting on people, and as your gain experience your inner game improves as your realize all those internal hangups you had before (such as being afraid of being creepy, etc.) don't matter, and your outer game improves as you become more genuine in your interactions, which improves your inner game, ad nauseum.
/r/seduction21/05/14 05:51 PM
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That's a really cool move op, you showed that girl you're spontaneous and fun and original. No doubt by the time you finished opening her the second time you've already gotten in. Props.
/r/seduction17/05/14 09:36 PM
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Ahh I understand now. The core tenets of TRP are generally true, but the people who follow it have created their own narrative. I mean, you've done it right here! Cherry-picking specific lines without actually understanding what I meant, while demonstrating the exact points I've made. I'll start with the first point. Ask yourself this question, did I look at the evidence first and then come to my conclusion, or did I already have my conclusion and then I looked for evidence to support it? To the…
/r/TheRedPill15/04/14 05:45 PM
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Ok, sure, I accept this evidence. But my question is, so what? does any of this lend any evidence to the assertion that the downfall of society is nigh? Or are we choosing to view things in such a way because it fits our narrative, that feminism is inherently bad and will lead to the downfall of men and society? In my personal opinion, we choose to view things in such a way because it fits our viewpoints and gives us rationalization for our anger and our actions. There is no need to view things …
/r/TheRedPill15/04/14 04:53 PM
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Yes and no. Women are just more blatant with the emotional manipulation than men are. Many of those logical things that men use to justify their actions are actually emotional manipulations as well, for example on this subreddit here everybody makes grandiose statements about the current state of affairs and how it will bring about the downfall of humanity, when really they have no evidence at all. It's an emotional argument wrapped in the veneer of logic. Are they right? Maybe, I don't know, I …
/r/TheRedPill15/04/14 03:57 PM
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Well obviously. Everybody wants the best outcome for themselves and then rationalizes it afterwards. Men do so with logic, women with emotions.
/r/TheRedPill15/04/14 03:32 PM
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Oh god I feel so sorry for that mill.
/r/TheRedPill14/04/14 02:00 PM
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MGTOW right?
/r/TheRedPill13/04/14 01:44 AM
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You aren't going to see it if you come in assuming all women are garbage. Confirmation bias blinds you just as easily as it blinds feminists.
/r/TheRedPill13/04/14 01:27 AM
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Advertisement and the media certainly exacerbate the situation. I remember watching the news in China compared to the news here. Yes I know China's news is heavily biased and designed to keep the populace complacent, however they report on stories that make you feel better about humanity like the kid who carried his brother out from the Sichuan earthquake or doctors who head into the mountains to help isolated villages. News over here is sensationalism with a huge negative slant on everything, I…
/r/TheRedPill11/04/14 08:19 PM
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Roosh is absolutely right about the culture of America causing these mental problems. Living in America puts a lot of undue stress on people. I don't know why, but empirically speaking people elsewhere in the world are a lot more relaxed and happy, even if their quality of life is much lower. It makes me wonder whether Americans really do have it better than elsewhere in the world.
/r/TheRedPill11/04/14 05:34 PM
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A quote from Game of Thrones Bran: "Can a man be brave if he is afraid?" Ned Stark: "That is the only time a man can be brave."
/r/TheRedPill10/04/14 11:06 PM
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You're missing the point of the argument. Tesla is the genius who really invented the lightbulb, but Edison stole it from him and made it his own. The point isn't that Tesla is stupid, it's that Edison is smart as well, quite possibly a lot smarter than Tesla in certain respects.
/r/TheRedPill07/04/14 11:30 PM
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For your examples, does it matter whether they have other skills or not? If they can trick you into giving them the fruits of your labor for smoke and mirrors, I'd say they are a lot more intelligent than you.
/r/TheRedPill07/04/14 07:03 PM
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If they are scamming people, are they really idiots?
/r/TheRedPill07/04/14 02:55 PM
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I'm impressed at how over the top it is. Communist China wasn't even this bad.
/r/TheRedPill06/04/14 04:50 PM
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Like all self-organizing systems human society functions off opponent processes. When things go too far in one direction, you can bet that forces in the opposite direction are building up to drive the system back.
/r/TheRedPill06/04/14 04:42 PM
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I've been waiting for an article like this where the statistics are properly analyzed. Yes men make more money, but that is because men work more and work in more lucrative fields. When normalizing for hours worked over the same jobs, women come out on top.
/r/TheRedPill04/04/14 02:04 PM
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I don't know how you guys in LTR's do it. Easy. Become her alpha.
/r/TheRedPill03/04/14 12:27 AM
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It does, but you're still going to get a lot of hatred just from people not liking who you are. When you put yourself out there, have strong opinions and a strong sense of self, then there will be people who don't like that. The goal of seduction isn't to please everybody, it's to become a man worthy of other's pleasure.
/r/seduction02/04/14 12:45 PM
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The most alpha of men are kind and generous to all that they meet. They are generous because they have plenty, and they are kind because of a sincerely want to better the world. Holding onto anger and hatred and selfishness are beta behaviors stemming from a fundamental insecurity with yourself.
/r/TheRedPill01/04/14 03:13 PM
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I'd say barely any men. Or people in general. Most people don't think hard enough.
/r/TheRedPill01/04/14 03:09 PM
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Welcome to the millennial generation. Why do you think redpill started?
/r/TheRedPill01/04/14 01:36 PM
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LETS GET DOWN TO BUSINESS
/r/TheRedPill01/04/14 01:53 AM
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who's the competition? If you're talking about other men, then yes I would rather them be worse. It makes me look better in comparison.
/r/TheRedPill29/03/14 11:52 PM
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Everyone needs TRP, but women will never realize it. Nor will most men. And that's perfectly ok imo.
/r/TheRedPill29/03/14 10:00 PM
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TRP opens your eyes to the real world. We've all had our visions clouded by ideals, so when the veil is parted it feels like things are disgusting and evil. But they're not, it's just the way things are, have been, and always will be. Some people say the best path is to opt out of the system. I say find the rules of the system and game them to your advantage. When society seeks to screw you, screw it back harder.
/r/TheRedPill29/03/14 09:55 PM
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It's an attempt to argue from authority. Only two types of people do that, those whose arguments hold no value so they must use authority to give it a semblance of value, or those who have no authority at all. This guy wants us to respect his manliness, all I see is a gigantic vag try-hard.
/r/TheRedPill19/03/14 05:40 PM
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100 individuals, stratified properly among gender and race, with proportional random samples taken from each strata is generally good enough. By the law of large numbers and the central limit theorem a sample size of 100 is already good enough to approximate a normal distribution regardless of what distribution the actual sample is taken from. Of course without looking at the actual experimental design I can't say whether the sampling is biased in any way, but in an ideal situation 100 is a dece…
/r/TheRedPill18/03/14 02:34 AM
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Girls only sell this stuff because there are men sad enough to buy.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/14 02:50 AM
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The shame is on the men for buying.
/r/TheRedPill13/03/14 01:57 PM
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My gf tried this once with me too. When she asked that question, I replied with "You won't." Instantly short-circuited her thoughts while avoiding any emotional confrontation.
/r/TheRedPill09/03/14 08:40 PM
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Then your boundaries are not well-defined enough. Look into yourself and ask what do you want first, and make sure your answers are clear.
/r/seduction08/03/14 07:59 PM
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There is. Set down strong boundaries right from the beginning, and the second they overstep one of your boundaries next them.
/r/seduction08/03/14 07:10 PM
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This would've helped immensely last night lol. I have very little success with night game, thanks to this I'll have a guide to what to do.
/r/seduction28/02/14 09:31 PM
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That's especially terrifying if you consider how blacks are treated by authorities now (stop and frisk, incarceration, targeted harassment by police). If the trends show a real correlation, that would mean in 40 years we would be living in a society resembling the worst authoritarian police states.
/r/TheRedPill28/02/14 06:38 PM
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TL;DR Focus on the process, not on yourself
/r/seduction26/02/14 01:12 PM
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Solid points, I absolutely love the fifth one. Yes it sucks in the beginning, but stick with it and eventually you won't want to stop.
/r/TheRedPill23/02/14 11:33 PM
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Go ask /r/Fitness they'll be able to give you more advice than here.
/r/TheRedPill23/02/14 11:33 PM
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No we fantasize about it. They feel entitled to it.
/r/TheRedPill23/02/14 03:23 PM
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I felt the same way when I first read the post, however after a little bit of thought I think that he has a point, not everyone can be alpha otherwise there would be no alphas. However I believe that the human notion of alpha and the animal notion of alpha is different. Animals have one primary function, find food and survive. Those animals that are larger, stronger, more capable of hunting become the alphas because they are the most capable. Humans however have many different ways of being alph…
/r/TheRedPill21/02/14 06:39 PM
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I fail to see where you went redpill in your conversation
/r/TheRedPill18/02/14 10:18 PM
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She was just a horse with a fake horn
/r/TheRedPill14/02/14 01:46 AM
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I want to be this guy when I get old. Keeping up with exercise is the best anti-aging agent out there.
/r/TheRedPill13/02/14 03:09 AM
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Experience and desensitization. Try this out, go and tell someone one of your deepest darkest secrets, something you would be so ashamed of admitting that if people found out you would die. And after you tell them, realize that you have not died. You only need validation from people because you're afraid of yourself and what you are hiding, so by throwing out to everyone the one thing you are hiding the most, you will find that you don't need validation from anyone anymore to like yourself. No m…
/r/seduction13/02/14 02:36 AM
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The stages of taking the red pill isn't about the truth it reveals, it's about how people handle the truth. Some people accept what they learn immediately because they've had similar experiences/ observed similar things in the world. You sound like one of them. Some people have never seen or refuse to see the truth, and so they get angry when their worldview becomes challenged by facts. And some people have had so many experiences that they've just become jaded and hurt. We've all gathered in th…
/r/TheRedPill10/02/14 01:39 AM
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And I love how her next line is "What do you want women to do?" Puts the whole solipsism thing on full display right there. And that's also why women are so against TRP. They see it as an attack on them, trying to make them change. TRP isn't about making women change, men have tried that for millennia and it hasn't worked. It's about getting rid of the feminist bullshit clouding everyone's vision so men can start being men again!
/r/TheRedPill10/02/14 01:26 AM
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You may have just hit upon something here... I can't really think of many instances where women actually do things without seeking approval from others. I guess this is where hamstering comes from.
/r/TheRedPill10/02/14 12:03 AM
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Men and women should both have to give consent to have sex. Men implicitly give consent when they instigate, and since that is what usually happens we tend to ignore it and focus on the woman. However both parties must consent for intercourse to happen. If being drunk means you can't legally give consent, then the man has not legally consented to the sex either. So either both parties are guilty of rape, or no parties are. That's how I would structure my argument should I ever encounter this in …
/r/TheRedPill06/02/14 03:02 AM
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I did mean that removing those laws and social barriers that kept women sexually repressed is a good thing. Sexual liberation is not a bad thing, I don't understand why you think of it that way. People talking openly about their sexual intentions and acting based on their sexual desires without fear of shame or repercussions is the way things should be. Humans do have a true nature, one that is entirely self-centered and completely based upon their own point of view. You are right in that not ev…
/r/TheRedPill06/02/14 12:16 AM
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Turning your brain off makes you join them. Let's just look in from the outside and laugh.
/r/TheRedPill05/02/14 11:55 PM
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I don't agree with this because the historical evidence seems to point in a different direction. Let's look back at what women's roles traditionally were; they were forced by law and society to be subservient to men and their emotions were generally ignored or treated as "histronics". Modern society has removed those law and social barriers so that women can have the same opportunities as men now, which is not a bad thing. Multiple factors contributed to this, including an overall feminization o…
/r/TheRedPill05/02/14 11:38 PM
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There's a very good explanation as to why Asian guys look more to the face than to the body, look at Asian girls. They generally have bodies lacking in curvature. Without boobs or ass to look forward to, Asian men have to look at faces to differentiate hotness. Over time (an extremely long period of time) Asian men generally become conditioned to looking at the face first and everything else second. As an Asian guy who grew up in the west it is the same for me. No matter how hot a girl's body is…
/r/TheRedPill01/02/14 05:38 PM
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Yeah, I've always felt that saying it is a lot less smooth than just doing it. It's probably a result of all the sexual shaming that is in culture that we can't just say how we feel without being perceived as "creepy". Getting around that would be letting your actions speak for themselves.
/r/seduction30/01/14 06:21 PM
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There you go! You have now swallowed the red pill.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 02:59 AM
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Dude... Why did you think doing that was a good idea?
/r/seduction01/01/14 04:04 PM
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Having friends =/= not being independent
/r/seduction26/12/13 10:03 PM
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Well I learned my lesson now
/r/seduction06/12/13 10:20 PM
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I engaged some of them in a conversation in the thread that started all this to try and get them to see what we do. It was like a liberal talking to numerous Fox News hosts. God the people are so close-minded.
/r/seduction06/12/13 10:05 PM
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Basically that men only care about looks and will go after the girl who looks the best, other features be damned. Even though that's what we do, it's still not good to say that in civilized society. I'm just trying to keep the rabid feminists off my back :P
/r/seduction26/10/13 04:31 AM
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Exactly. I'm going to be a bit blunt, but guys don't care about your career or your personality or really even who you are on the base level. In a truly animalistic sense, we only care about fertility, and we have evolved to pick up on signs of fertility, namely youth, body shape, and various other physical features. Women are the ones who care about the non-physical stuff because they, in the animalistic sense, are looking for providers who will care for them when they are vulnerable (during pr…
/r/seduction26/10/13 04:10 AM
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Have you ever thought about why those men didn't want you? Please don't think I'm trying to grill you with questions or anything, I'm trying to get you to do a little self-reflection, since that is the first step to becoming who you want to be.
/r/seduction26/09/13 04:24 PM
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Why do you want to be that girl?
/r/seduction26/09/13 04:20 PM
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The answer is always yes. What's the worst thing that could happen?
/r/seduction21/09/13 11:42 PM
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yeah. Focusing on getting laid is actually counterproductive. If you don't take those steps to bettering yourself you still won't be happy or fulfilled.
/r/seduction11/09/13 07:35 PM
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Good point. If you have self-percieved failings (that you are not comfortable with), then you're probably not projecting confidence. Taking care of yourself is the most important step towards fixing that.
/r/seduction11/09/13 07:12 PM
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Then stop coming here. Your attitude is bad and you should feel bad.
/r/seduction08/09/13 10:01 PM
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I'm not trying to convince you, I'm telling you that you should not dismiss any bit of advice from anybody.
/r/seduction07/09/13 11:07 PM
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Bro, I do not appreciate the way you are talking about my girlfriend. Staggering drunk woman? Go fuck yourself. When I run pickup it's exclusively day-game. I do not like clubs because I can't have a conversation over the loud thumping music. Bars are slightly better but where I live they are filled with large groups of friends, and trying to open that is just right out. And what I've found with day game is that even with a deficit of looks you can make up for it with interest. Get her intereste…
/r/seduction07/09/13 02:29 PM
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And I've seen plenty of unfortunate looking guys succeed with extremely hot women because they were confident and genuine. Hell I'm one of them! If a girl shoots you down because she thinks you're creepy, it's because either you weren't being genuine with your actions and she could tell that you have an ulterior motive, or she cares only about physical appearance in which case you shouldn't bother with that type of girl anyways.
/r/seduction07/09/13 02:04 PM
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Did I say your appearance doesn't matter? Try going up to women and being your genuine and confident, and you'll find your appearance matters far less than you think.
/r/seduction07/09/13 01:44 PM
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Well what he says are good points. If you're seeking help it shouldn't matter where the help comes from.
/r/seduction06/09/13 08:40 PM
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oh really? Have you tried?
/r/seduction06/09/13 08:31 PM
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Don't think of things that way.Your appearance doesn't matter nearly as much as being genuine and authentic and confident. People don't sense attractiveness based on physical appearance alone, and a deficit in physical appearance can be made up for through work improving yourself.
/r/seduction06/09/13 04:56 PM
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but Obama is not alpha as shown in this picture. It's more a Putin circlejerk
/r/seduction06/09/13 04:35 PM
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I'm adding on and clarifying what you are trying to say. Lots of people would think any kind of submissiveness would be bad, but submissiveness coming from a place of confidence is not a bad thing. It's like instead of deferring to the girl because you think that would make her happy, defer to the girl because it doesn't matter what she chooses you'll be happy anyways. Because you are confident and secure enough to know she wants what you want.
/r/seduction03/09/13 04:31 AM
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A quick note on what this guy says. He is absolutely right about dominance, but it does not mean being overbearing. Don't always demand she must do what you want, instead try being assertive, know what you want but put things forward in such a way that she will not feel as if you are trying to control her. That is a huge turn-off.
/r/seduction03/09/13 01:52 AM
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People are giving you nice suggestions and all, but I think it won't solve your problem until you get at the real reason why you can't talk to people, or think you can't talk to people (because if you want to talk to someone, you go up to them and talk, it's really as simple as that. There's no special preparation or lessons involved) I've had the same problem as you. I couldn't talk to people for the longest time, and I felt like my brain would just blank out and I'd be left speechless. And it …
/r/seduction02/09/13 11:14 PM
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Say "Ok," and continue on as usual. Physically escalate. Demonstrate your desire for her without any fear of her rejection. Keep on escalating and pushing, and she will warm up especially if she's already into you.
/r/seduction02/09/13 10:28 PM
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Something like that yes. I do not deny that the connections that pre-empt marriage are a good thing, but I think that forcing an institution on something that should not be limited is a bad thing. People may feel that way about their partners, but I also think that people feel that way about many others as well. It won't be trivializing the experience so much as sharing it with many other people to different degrees. Being locked into one partner for the rest of your life causes a lot of problem…
/r/seduction20/08/13 08:48 PM
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But is that a bad thing? In our current society men do not need to provide for women as much due to roughly equal employment (I'm of the belief that the wage gap between men and women is due to the differences in jobs that men and women usually take, not due to any real discrimination), and the traditional family model has proven time and time again to be woefully inadequate in raising decent human beings. Maybe it's time we do away with monogamy and marriage and instead embrace a much more coll…
/r/seduction20/08/13 07:14 PM
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Well it's about the effort you put in. You could spend the time calling them out and arguing with them doing something else, like going to a different set. It's more about the opportunity cost of wasted time than being afraid of ostracism to me.
/r/seduction15/08/13 09:40 PM
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I just think racism should be called out. Amen to that brother. If calling them out is what you want to do, then have at it. Just don't expect any results :\
/r/seduction15/08/13 08:30 PM
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Tie your happiness to whether or not you took the right action. Absolutely correct, but also don't beat yourself up if you didn't take the right action, or if you took what you believed to be correct and it blew up in your face. Accept your mistakes as a fact of life and move on with the new lesson learned, and then you will improve naturally.
/r/seduction15/08/13 06:40 PM
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Chances are if these girls actually think like that then they are so thick they'll just blow you off the second you start asking them questions. They won't think they're stupid because they don't think. So the best thing to do is avoid those girls and find someone who is a better and smarter person.
/r/seduction15/08/13 06:33 PM
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Valar morghulis
/r/seduction25/07/13 03:59 AM
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Basically get to know the girl before deciding whether you like her or not.
/r/seduction04/07/13 07:56 PM
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If you get caught in a sexual harassment lawsuit though say bye bye to that career you've been working the better part of a decade on.
/r/seduction01/07/13 03:03 PM
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Be polite and tell her you have no idea what she just said. If she makes fun of you for it, playfully make fun of her back for speaking in girl-ese or something
/r/seduction04/09/12 08:51 PM
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Stay ahead, grab her and help her up tough to get to areas. Not only is it gentlemanly, but it also makes you look real tough. And you get the kino in as well
/r/seduction02/09/12 01:04 AM
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None at all really. This is just another girl trying to find a "nice guy" but then hates them because they're too beta and would rather date the confident player guy who has plenty of women but gets on her moral high horse when we point out what she's attracted to.
/r/seduction18/08/12 07:01 PM
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The fact that you're not insulted does not matter, since everyone else sees your passive aggressive comment and knows you are
/r/seduction11/08/12 03:17 PM
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Everyone wants money, wealth, power and fame. It's up to you to go get it
/r/seduction22/08/11 05:27 AM
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