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What? Are we on the same page with this?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 08:01 PM
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That makes sense. It’s just hard to believe - and sad - that a modern country lost so much social progress so quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 11:44 AM

Again, this is not normal behaviour with most of the couples I’ve known. Why you do you think you’re surrounded by so many abusive people?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 11:13 AM

Except not all parents love their children. My own father told me when I was 17 that he didn’t love me, and he made sure I didn’t forget that. So, right after high school I got my first job and moved into an apartment with my sister and a friend of her’s. I haven’t spoken to my father in almost 10 years because of how he used to beat us, and outright told us that he regretted having us. We were just bills for him to pay. Am I really such a terrible woman for removing that man from my life?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 08:54 AM

Those women are abusive; their behaviour isn’t normal. Are you sure most couples you know are like this? Because most of the couples I know don’t treat each other this way. I’ve known only a few couples that abused each other like this, and those relationships have already ended/they’re divorced now. How is it most couples you know are abusive like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 07:03 AM
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I agree - your expectations sound fair to me. I’ve noticed that lot of women hate it when when their spouse/SO watches porn, too. I don’t understand why though. As long as my boyfriend doesn’t start signs of addiction or exclusively get off on porn instead of having sex with me, then I don’t care.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 06:27 AM
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Okay, I think I understand you. Yes, a healthy sex life is important in marriage. If marry someone with a similar sex drive, then I doubt lacking sex would be a problem. But it’s also important to remember that we’re all humans, and sometimes your spouse just might not be in the mood. (From stress during a hard time, being exhausted because of some work related stress). It’s important to respect them when they say no occasion. But if they completely stop having sex with you and leave you sexuall…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 06:01 AM
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What do you mean by expecting sex? I’m asking because I want to make sure we’re on the same page on what that means. To me, “expecting sex/sex is owed” reminds me of things my father said. He also believes that women are dangerous and should be the property of their husbands. Like, word for word said that. He even told me that if my future husband hits me, I probably did something to deserve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 05:48 AM
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I’m a feminist and I don’t think sex is owed in marriage either. But if your spouse starts withholding sex all the time and leaves you unsatisfied, you’re well within you right to leave them. In a healthy marriage, the couple satisfies each other sexually but sex still isn’t owed. You shouldn’t expect sex from you partner if they’re sick or your wife just gave birth, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 05:39 AM
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Oh, I’m not saying there’s anything wrong with that! If anything, I think your coworker’s reaction was immature and disrespectful. I was just wondering why you think “meaningful” tattoos are weird. That kind of thing is normal when people commission other art pieces, so it makes sense that meaningful tattoos are common. (Granted, meaningful doesn’t mean their tattoo isn’t tacky or cringe. The most common “meaningful” tattoos look bad, or they’re boring or cringe.)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 04:31 AM

Why is it weird when someone gets tattoos that are meaningful? When people commission artwork, they usually want a piece that’s meaningful to them. So, it makes sense that this would translate to body art. I’m not saying that “meaningful” tattoos can’t be tacky, cringe or just straight up garbage. Low quality tattoos are more common, too. But if you find a really good tattoo artist, the end result can be an excellent piece that’s meaningful to the commissioner.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 03:05 AM
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That’s fine if you feel that way. I don’t agree with your blanket judgement - but people can’t help what they are or aren’t attracted to, so I’ll say you do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 02:56 AM
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“A death not chosen is most certainly a punishment.” Normally I would agree, and that’s why I draw that line at 24 weeks of gestation. I can only condone abortions performed before the fetus has developed and is considered viable. I’m not OK with aborting for any reason. I believe abortions are only justified if severe medical issues are detected that will result in the child having a short, sickly life or defects that will prevent the child from becoming self sufficient and they’ll require life…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 02:48 AM

Are most tattoos basic and poor quality? I agree and that’s an instant turn off. But I’ve seen tattoo artists produce genuinely beautiful pieces. Usually clients high quality tattoos aren’t just trend chasers, and I’ve met plenty of people with tattoos that aren’t promiscuous. I have only been with two men - both LTR’s and I’m currently with the second - and I’m planning to get a couple of tattoos someday. (After vetting for a quality artist.)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 02:06 AM

You’re aware that other people get tattoos, too, right? They’re becoming more acceptable on people in classically “professional “ fields.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 01:52 AM

I agree that a lot of people have cringe tattoos. But the right tattoo artist can tattoo fantastic pieces. Why do you think tattoos in general make women LV?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 01:41 AM
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The problem here is that the taking of a human life isn’t always considered murder by society. It’s the job of the courts to look at each situation individually, and they don’t always rule taking a human life as murder. Second, death is not always a punishment. I don’t view the aborted fetus as being punished - it’s pragmatic. We should be taking quality of life into more consideration; allowing the mother/parents to terminate a pregnancy before the fetus is viable - before 24 weeks - is the bes…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 01:17 AM
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Why would Liberal Democrats - women who are the most likely to be incompatible with you - the only option? Why not Libertarians? There are a lot of Right-leaning Libertarians. You’d have a better chance of meeting a woman you’re compatible with, so they could more willing to give you a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 11:35 PM
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Yes, a human fetus is a developing human with its own DNA. And? That doesn’t negate that women need to have the right to terminate a pregnancy. It’s sad when it happens, but sometimes it’s best thing for mother/family and her child.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 09:22 PM
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Sex-positive feminists refuse to have sex with their husband (and justify it with her experimental phase)? That doesn’t make sense. Why would sex-positive feminists marry a man and then refuse to have sex with him?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 09:16 PM
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A fetus is considered viable at 24 weeks (generally). So, anytime before 24 weeks. https://www.verywellfamily.com/premature-birth-and-viability-2371529
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 08:48 PM
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I said that I support aborting unwanted pregnancies before the fetus is viable because unwanted kids are more likely to be abused. I agree that we should address abuse and neglect; but until our country actually fixes our foster care system and actually address child abuse, it makes more sense to let the mother terminate an unwanted pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 04:31 PM
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When did I say that? I only condone abortion when the fetus still isn’t viable. Not after their born.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 04:21 PM
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The majority of abortions are don’t before the baby is viable. I agree that it’s sad. But there’s no sense in forcing a woman that doesn’t want them/children to give birth. Unwanted children are often abused or neglected. Why put children through that? It’s better to terminate the pregnancy IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 04:08 PM
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Ending a human life isn’t always murder. Sometimes it’s justified; that determined in court. I think it’s kinder to the child to abort if the mother doesn’t want them. Repeated abortions can damage a woman’s reproductive organs and make her infertile. If a woman that doesn’t want kids keeps getting knocked up because she’s irresponsible, then she deserves the resulting health issues from repeated abortions.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 02:22 PM
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But what’s the history that led to Poland’s extreme socially Conservative laws?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 01:18 PM
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Yes, it’s a developing human. No, it’s not being murdered. There’s no sense in forcing the mother to birth a child she doesn’t want. Unwanted children often have a lower quality of life. It’s kinder to the child to let the mother/parents terminate the pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 12:55 PM
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Lol When did I pretend the fetus being aborted isn’t human? Of course it’s a human developing in the womb. Why should a woman that doesn’t want the kid be forced to give birth? They won’t make good parents, and no child deserves to be raised by someone that doesn’t want them. My grandmother got knocked up with a baby she didn’t want (my dad). She married my grandfather because she was expected to. He walked out on her years laters. She was stuck with two kids she didn’t want; humans often lash o…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 06:15 AM
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Lol Oops. There’s that poor reading comprehension again. Try again! Maybe you’ll understand this time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 05:32 AM
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Yes, idiots that can’t fathom that not all women want children want to enact laws that will make it harder for these women to remain childfree. Funny how society can affect the laws on the books, huh? Women want full control of pregnancy because, IMO, forcing us to incubate a child we don’t want for someone who does want them is immoral. Childbirth causes irreversible damage to our bodies. It’s also possible for postpartum depression to last for years. I hate saying it because I feel those fathe…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 01:50 AM
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Aborting because the mother or parents can’t afford to provide for their child and the birth control failed isn’t aborting for convenience. Aborting a child that would require lifelong caretakers and expensive healthcare because I think giving birth to someone that will never be able to survive with a caretaker is cruel to the child. Many of those of them end up in poorly staffed facilities with abusive staff as adults is not aborting a child for convenience.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 12:54 AM
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You poor thing. You must have the part where I explained why abortion isn’t murder of intent. You should try reading that more carefully next time!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 12:42 AM
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Why do you think I’m triggered?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 12:32 AM
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I mean… she is your ex though, right? I’d be surprised if that didn’t contribute to your incompatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 11:36 PM
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My home state (that I’m hoping to leave in the near future) is VERY red, and I regularly meet/have Republicans/Conservatives that believe this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 11:13 PM
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How did Poland take such a hard swing to the right? I’m asking because I don’t know enough of their history.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 11:05 PM
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“Men don’t paint a broad stroke and think…” Wouldn’t this be painting a group in a large stroke? I see both men and women making broad generalizations (both negative and positive) everyday. Why do you think men don’t do this? Refusing to date people from the opposite political party doesn’t mean that person is closed minded/intolerant of different beliefs. It depends on the reason behind their refusal. For example, I’m aware that Republicans and Democrats made up of subgroups. Not all Republican…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 10:22 PM
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Yes, we’re supposed to ask each other questions here. That’s why I asked you my question; I want to understand you and why you thought the other commenter was making that argument. Lol Why do you think I’m triggered?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 09:41 PM
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How is that a euphemism? A fetus is literally a human in development.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 09:38 PM
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I see plenty of men and women seeking external validation for their political beliefs everyday. Why do you think women are incapable of logic?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 09:37 PM
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Do you understand the reason for my example? I was showing how someone can refuse to date a Conservative because they wouldn’t be compatible, and still find a partner that’s compatible while still thinking independently. Why did you ask the other commenter if long-term compatibility can only be achieved if the man agrees with them 100%?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 09:31 PM
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Because of two things: There is a distinct difference between a fully, developed human that is viable outside of the womb and an developing human that isn’t viable outside of the womb. The intent: A. The murderer had malicious intent and planned to the killing. B. The majority of healthcare workers and mothers (or parents - it’s not uncommon for a couple to want the abortion) don’t have malicious intent for the fetus. Most people aren’t having abortions for the sake of it; usually it’s because o…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 09:24 PM
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Right now, it is mostly societal stigma pushing against women’s reproductive rights; but recently the “pro-life” crowd has been pushing harder to use legislation our reproductive rights away. Normally I’m of the opinion that the GOP won’t make a serious effort to overturn Roe v Wade, because I don’t believe they’re actually pro-life. But Texas’ seemingly earnest push to take our rights away makes me wonder if the GOP might actually try.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 09:09 PM
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That’s understandable. I guess, because the movement is responsible for the rights I have today, I can’t completely remove myself from it. If anything I want to remind people of what it stands for. I want more people to see that not every Feminist is like my BF’s sister or some SJW making a fool of them self at College/Uni.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 03:13 AM
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Here, I’ll spell it out for you: Of course it’s a human - that’s irrelevant. If the fetus isn’t developed enough to be viable outside the womb, your opinion on how the woman chooses to handle the pregnancy is irrelevant. Sometimes, letting go and ending the pregnancy instead of bringing a child into this world kinder. Some of us are pro-choice because we value quality of life for both the unborn child and mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 03:05 AM
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My boyfriend and I disagree some things politically; he’s a Moderate Liberal whereas I’m Left of him. But his values and politics aren’t so far right that they’re opposed to my own. What’s wrong with not wanting to date someone who’s values and politics are the exact opposite of your own?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 02:19 AM
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As someone who works in an ER in a Red, under vaccinated state, I feel her pain. We’re so exhausted and overwhelmed from this crap. What’s worse is people expecting me to “respect” anti-vax conspiracies are as just “different opinions.” I’m so over it that when my BF’s brother and father start going on and on about their anti-vax stances, masks, etc I’m just going to leave the room. I can’t anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 01:47 AM
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It is what it is. I learned the importance of vetting thoroughly to protect myself and my future children from men like him. For some reason, when I hear dads (like older male coworkers or my female friend’s dads) reminisce about stuff like this, I always want to thank them for actually loving their kids. I don’t normally say anything anymore - but I’m going through a rough time and drinking a lot. For some reason your comment made really happy. Hopefully someday my future husband and I will be …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 01:02 AM
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Right? I never hear people my age bring that one up. I’m loved it so much that when VHS wore out and stopped working, I asked my mom if we could put it with my keepsakes instead of throwing it away.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 12:48 AM
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Rodent Sherlock + Vincent Price Rat = Best Rivalry.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 12:45 AM
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My favourite Disney movies were: Mulan, Hunchback of Notre Dame and The Great Mouse Detective. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 12:21 AM
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Awww, that was very sweet of you. My dad never did anything like that for me. (Later he told me he hated spending time with me and sister because he’s embarrassed to have no sons. I haven’t talked to him in almost 10 years now.)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 12:17 AM
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This is close to where I am as a Feminist. While I still consider myself a Feminist, I see a lot of issues within that movement. Someone on another thread (can’t remember who or what thread) explained that a lot of people’s exposure to Feminism nowadays is through loud, uneducated Liberals and Conservatives that haven’t studied the movement academically. Uneducated Liberals - even when they’re well-meaning - are hurting the movement more than the detractors. I’ve regularly encountered them in Fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 11:56 PM
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Again, just a film is portraying real events, more often than not the screen writers take creative liberties or outright lie. Real life is often stranger than fiction. So, it’s safe the watered down portrayals on screen tell you just enough to get your attention (if the filmmaker is honest and doesn’t fabricate anything), but the movies need to be marketable. And marketable movies follow the feel-good tropes that modern movie goers keep paying Hollywood to see (for some silly reason). Also, I ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 11:03 PM
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May I ask in what capacity? Because going to the ER a few times as a visitor or a patient is very, very different than working in an ER everyday. Same with working in the OR.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 10:56 PM
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Actually both women and children handled the lion’s share of household chores (under direction from their mother and/or other female elders). Even boys were expected to help when they weren’t learning their family’s trade. The nuclear family was established when the “idyllic” working father and SAHM mother was affordable to the middle class. I don’t know if these SAMH’s were unhappy with being responsible for household chores; but it was also common for SAMH’s to volunteer and have a lot of comm…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 10:53 PM
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I’m laughing so hard it hurts. XD
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 10:17 PM
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Not going to lie, opening the list with basket weaving was a… little odd. It wasn’t a role specific to women, but sure, it’s something women did, too. While yes, women handled a lot of the child rearing. The further back we go in history, child rearing was often a family effort (since it used to be common for extended family to live together, or at least close proximity). In fact, in many of these working class communities, it wasn’t uncommon for the women and children (possibly with extended fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 09:24 PM
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Exactly! Child minding would give SAHMs a chance to help their community and help build stronger bonds. (Maybe.)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 04:36 PM
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In fact, anytime you see ER’s or OR’s in film or on TV, assume 80% is inaccurate. I’ve worked in both.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 12:02 PM
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In my experience, films/dramas don’t portray real life accurately. Like, anytime you see medical dramas in the hospital or an ER, it’s safe to assume 80% or so is inaccurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 12:01 PM
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My worldview is informed by my experiences, too. And that’s why I don’t look to entertainment and fiction to understand the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 11:14 AM
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Generally, a lot the SAHM’s in my region of the US are rural and spend their time doing their side hustles (I’ve come close to unfriending a lot of people - I’m not going to buy their cheap crap), taking care of the kids, watching TV or they’re social media too much. Usually I see posts obsessing over their kids or they post about suffering from depression and anxiety a lot. There’s not a lot of push for them to study or increase their skill sets. Although I live in a very Conservative area that…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 11:01 AM
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I can aspects of the real world in movies, too. But I’m also aware that the movie is more interested in entertaining me than exploring important complex issues. Often we’re seeing someone’s opinion of these issues instead of a nuanced, unbiased portrayal. But again: it’s entertainment, and you shouldn’t inform your worldview with entertainment. Otherwise you will have a very misinformed view of the world around you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 10:52 AM
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Agreed! Women should be allowed to choose! I think I misinterpreted your opening sentence in a negative way. My apologies!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 10:44 AM
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I could see that being a problem for others. From what my mom told me, her mom was very close to their housekeeper and her daughter, and her parents treated them like family. They were African American and this was in the Deep South, and my grandparents were very supportive of her and her daughter. (My mom was born in the 60’s.) After thinking on it, my mom’s family’s relationship with their housekeeper probably wasn’t the norm or common. She kept up with my mom even after my grandparents died (…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 10:43 AM
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Eh, I might give them a watch. But again, it’s entertainment that will deliver watered down versions of complex issues. Because the films want to entertain you first and foremost and make money. I don’t look to entertainers to better understand the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 09:43 AM
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I only know one of those movies (Gran Torino).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 09:38 AM
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Maybe I should clarify: I didn’t mean to imply that we’re born blank slates. However, I wonder how much preferences between boys and girls would change if raised outside of traditional conditioning? But I might be wrong and the average men and women are hardwired for specific preferences. I could care less if other women choose traditional roles just as long as I’m not forced to (through social pressure or legislation).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 09:28 AM
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I understand using movie references to describe established archetypes in film. (Although I don’t know who Christina Ricci is, and I’m often bored by “girl’s type media”.) The problem is Hollywood produces entertainment. Their movies must be entertaining first and foremost. The Liberal messaging we see in today’s movies is as empty as most celebrity’s virtue signalling. They are entertainers that seek to maximise profits first and foremost. And this is why I detest when Conservatives use Hollywo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 09:22 AM
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Interestingly, while boys and male monkeys did show preference for the wheeled toys, apparently the girls - as a group - didn’t spend that much more time on the plush toys. Also, do you have a study that’s more recent than 2008?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 09:01 AM
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Being a SAHM isn’t for everyone because not all women want that lifestyle. I’m pursuing a career in healthcare because that’s my calling in life. And as a future working mom, I’m going to carefully vet the school system and school administration when I’m looking to start a family. I have no problem with my kids being exposed to other’s values; it’s important for kids to become comfortable around different people early in life. I can still teach them my values while being an asset to my community…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 08:47 AM
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A lot of my peers came from farming families growing up. I think it’s interesting that the women are running the farm/homestead so that their husband’s can more easily pursue their own careers outside of the farm. Only one couple I know has this arrangement, and it’s because the wife started the ranch herself and her husband is a police officer; but a lot of friends and family help her run her business while it’s new. The other family farms were generally run by both the husband and wife. Both p…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 08:37 AM
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While I relate to housekeepers not being affordable in your area (I grew up in a poor rural area), my mom grew up with money (that she didn’t know how to manage with a husband that also couldn’t manage his money; her inheritance was completely spent by the time I was 5 years old, so I didn’t know she came from money until I was older). But growing up, her family’s maid was very invested in the well-being of my mom’s family. The maid was a good friend of my mom’s mother (and apparently my grandmo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 08:30 AM
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Right now, women are still fighting to have control of our own reproductive rights. And I’m not just talking about abortion, I’m also talking about women wanting to get their tubes tied. It’s still very difficult for a young woman to find a doctor that will perform the procedure unless the woman has had two or more kids, and if she’s married her husband often has to agree to the decision. So, if an unmarried young woman decides she doesn’t want kids, it’s much harder for to get her tubes tied. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 07:55 AM
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Hollywood produces “entertainment.” (I’m being generous since I think most those movies are too boring and formulaic.) No grown adult should be looking toward entertainers to define their morality/worldview. Especially since it’s obvious Hollywood still tries to pander Liberal ideologies without actually supporting them. Even as a child, I didn’t look to celebrities and entertainment to inform my worldviews. Because of my preferred entertainment (books, manga and video games) focused on fiction,…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 07:45 AM
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The majority of the SAHM’s I know do have side hustles… but they’re usually selling some cheap jewellery or make-up for companies that “totes aren’t pyramid schemes ya’ll” (but let’s be real, they’re absolutely pyramid schemes). Only two of them used that time to become business owners (one runs a successful real estate business with her husband, the other opened her own ranch and teaches horse backing riding, etc.) But most of them keep trying to sell me cheap crap just to help their husband’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 07:10 AM
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Literally every kid that had a SAHM - including my mother and older sister - continued to be emotionally dependent on their parents as adults. I was about 5 years old when my mom started working, and yet I don’t suffer from any of my sister’s dependence on our mother. The most independent people I know tended to have two working parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 06:58 AM
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I can’t speak for your country, but in the US it wasn’t uncommon for upper class women to pursue a higher education and become SAHW’s. (My mom came from money.)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 06:47 AM
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I come from an area of rural communities that encouraged “boys to be boys” (rowdy, less academically focused). Girls were encouraged to be more docile, to nurture traditionally feminine skills and interests. Girls like me - that rejected the roles pushed on us and focused more on mechanical interests, were often punished more as kids and adults - parents and teachers alike - were less invested in us. My town was so small that I met all of my classmate’s parents at least once, and most of them ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:12 AM
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If you value women’s “supporting role” in society, can you please name specific examples of how we’ve contributed to society in our “supporting role”? You have no problem naming men’s contributions, but you’ve only praised women for our “supporting roles” and alleged that these vague supporting roles were important, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 01:31 AM
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See, as a woman I’m very skeptical of the “men are mechanical and logical, and women are social and emotional” argument. I’ve always been drawn to more object-focused work and hobbies. Socially-driven roles (and hobbies) have always been more stressful/less interesting/less fulfilling to me. I also come from a community that expected me and the other girls to pursue “traditionally feminine, people-focused roles.” If we rejected these roles, the adults in our lives (both family and teachers) inve…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 01:22 AM
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Have you considered that men and women want to date and/or marry like minded people? So, since I’m pursuing a college education, it makes sense that I’d have more in common with a college educated man. I come from a blue collar community and I still live in that area. I wouldn’t date a garbage man because the men I’ve met in that profession (and professions like it) because I don’t have enough in common with them personality and lifestyle-wise. They’re not beneath me just because I’m not attract…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 12:26 AM
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“Where all of the independent women seeking to do that work themselves.” To be honest, there’s fewer men or women seeking professions involving hard labour. Probably because the two most recent generations were pushed to go to college/uni regardless of the individual student’s academic aptitude. I’m saying this as someone who’s starting college in my late 20’s, and as someone who is very supportive of making higher education more accessible. And then in poor, rural communities like my childhood …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 12:09 AM
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I’m sorry you feel that way. That’s what my dad told me my entire life. It’s been almost a decade since I cut him out of my life, and when I do have children, he’ll never meet them. Unless you want to end up like him, I recommend changing how you view women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 05:24 PM
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So women are only useful if we want to reproduce? That’s a pathetic and disgusting view of women/people in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 04:27 AM
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What did they say or do to you? How old were you guys? Because I’m a feminist and I don’t hate men, and most of the feminists that I know don’t either.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 04:19 PM
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So, you think all feminists are like FDS? Even though me and most of the feminists I know don’t agree with FDS except for two?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 04:13 PM
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It does? Can you give me some examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 02:03 AM
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Can you be more specific?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 12:00 AM
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Why do you think that?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 11:58 PM
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I sincerely doubt the majority of divorces occur because of this. Most of my friends and peers parents got divorced while we were growing up, and in a small town like mine, you often hear what was going on. Sometimes it was because of one or both spouses cheating, one or both were abusive, they got married too young (as teens) and they realised as adults they aren’t compatible, one or both are abusing drugs, or sometimes all of the above. In one case, my best friend’s parents divorced because th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 12:38 PM
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I agree that if a couple can’t afford a kid, they shouldn’t have them. In fact, many of the single-income families my age can’t survive without government assistance. Whereas many of the two-income homes (where both parents have a career) are raising kids on just their incomes and they only reach out to family to help out occasionally. So, maybe I was wrong and today’s career oriented parents are doing just fine as parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 05:18 AM
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No. They need therapy to help them through their trauma and get back on their feet.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 02:13 AM
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I’m sorry to hear that you’re struggling with that. I know what it’s like to struggle with your emotional connections in relationships. Personally I think you should consider seeing a therapist for this. A professional can help understand why you feel this way, and how to work through it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 01:55 AM
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I mean, you should have a rough idea from being around other relationships and couples. Or at least I’d think. What are you unsure of?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 01:28 AM
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When did I say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 01:27 AM
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I think I understand a little. My father didn’t want my sister and I because we’re both girls - he wanted sons. He walked out on our family a few different times before my parents finalised divorced when I was a teenager. I learned in recent years that his father abandoned my dad and his mother and sister when he was little. And apparently my grandfather’s father abandoned his wife and children to marry a woman 10 years younger than him, and started a new family with her. So, that’s three genera…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 01:13 AM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 12:32 AM
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What are you talking? Several of the successful married couples I know are feminists. Many of the failing marriages I know involved non-feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 12:19 AM
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There is nothing wrong or unnatural about women having self-determination. If we want to put our husband and children first, fine; but if we want to be a valuable member of our community and/or a specialist industry/field, as well as raise a family, we should feel free to do so. And that is the best part of today’s world. Both men and women are free to determine our own purpose for our life. And because of this, I’m going to hold a career and become a mother someday. I want to be an asset to my …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 09:50 PM
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That makes what a desirable proposal? Giving up our rights or simply choosing to opt out using our rights?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 09:05 PM
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“…caregiving, it’s not in our dna.” What? What are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 09:01 PM
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Of course they can. However, it more than it needs to be. The problem is that modern America still wants to function as though the one working parent, one stay at home parent even though that model is outdated and not feasible for most families. Our country needs to invest in a better support system for working parents, especially for low-earning two-income households.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 01:12 PM
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How am I lynch mob or cancelling anyone? I made a personal judgement that changes after an investigation/final ruling.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 03:09 AM
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You don’t have to be part of the legal process to make a personal judgement.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 02:39 AM
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Who is joking about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 10:26 PM
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Whether you care about my work or not is irrelevant. I mentioned my work to illustrate how to properly handle these situations. You dismissed their claim when you labelled their experience as just a boundary violation, rather than calling it what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 09:53 PM
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I understand that. However, my line of work has taught me treat people with empathy, even when I don’t have all of facts yet. Your first response shouldn’t be to dismiss their claim outright.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 11:17 PM
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I’m aware that I have no proof of the her claims. However, I’m not going to interrogate or dismiss her claim and tell her something else happened to her. It’s not my place.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 01:44 PM
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Okay, so the 3rd Wave changed the focus to the individual, and IMO the 4th Wave an expansion of that concept. Personally, I see potential for intersectional feminism - as a concept - as a way for the movement to move forward. However, I think internal conflict that started in the 3rd Wave is holding it back. But I need to study the subject more! I have surface level knowledge at best. Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 12:46 PM
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Why did you assume she didn’t communicate clearly when she said that she and her ex talked about what they do and don’t consent to? They discussed it, and she told him no. Why would you assume otherwise? Rapists should be punished harshly. Their victim will have to live with the trauma for the rest of their life. And if a rapist assaults someone and they convicted of the crime, they committed the crime despite knowing what the punishment would be. I expect them to be punished harshly in accordan…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 12:17 PM
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No adult should be asking about their Prince or Princess Charming. That’s an unrealistic - at best - or an immature perspective - at work - on relationships. Also, the majority of the couples I know in my age group and younger (I’m a Millennial) don’t celebrate Valentine’s Day that way. Different couples celebrate it in different ways every year, including my boyfriend and I.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 11:55 AM
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I’ve experienced this intense refusal to let me get the door from older men, too. One time I got there first and held the door for him, and the man just stood there and looked at me with a pained and conflicted expression. After some encouragement, he went through the door and got the next door me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 11:47 AM
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If you don’t want to drive, then say so. If she a problem, then she’s not worth your time. All people - male and female - are unpredictable until you get to know them. That’s just how people are. Driving the car doesn’t make you a gentleman. Especially if you don’t want to do it. You’re doing that that you don’t want to do because think society expects it if you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 11:38 AM
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I just Googled what “mens rea” means. I’m not surprised would question his motivation behind the act in a full investigation. But the still stands: He was told previously that she does not consent to anal, and then he did it to her anyway. That is by definition rape. Why would you say otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 11:15 AM
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What?? Mens rea?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 11:03 AM
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I’m sorry that there are commenters downplaying what was done to you. I’m sorry that your ex put you through all of that, hun.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 10:51 AM
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Ah, that makes sense. I’ll read up on it more. Then what was 3rd Wave?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 10:48 AM
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A boundary violation? She said that she explicitly told him that she didn’t want anal, but he did it to her anyway. That is rape. He did not have her consent to do that to her. Therefore, it’s rape. Why are you calling it something else?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 10:47 AM
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When did she ask you to go to the police on her behalf?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 10:42 AM
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So, you’re solution to this debate is to suggest: Going easier on rapists when sentencing them. You think these sentences are causing the vitriol on “both sides.” But how would lesser sentences for rapists who are proven guilty everyone else? And who are the two sides here? Also, you wouldn’t sue your date rapist if one of you were drunk and it wasn’t planned, because you think we punish rapists harshly? How can someone date rape someone without planning to do it? And again, why should be lenien…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 10:36 AM
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What’s the difference between the 3rd Wave and the 4th Wave?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 09:07 AM
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I’m sorry to hear that happened to her. The worst part, is that it’s not uncommon for these to come from backgrounds that consider this lifestyle the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 08:51 AM
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You would be surprised how many aren’t gaming the system. I grew up in a rural area with VERY Conservative communities. In my town, I went to school with the same group of kids K-12. When I graduated in the 2010’s, at least half of my female classmates were pregnant by the last two months of school. These girls had to rely on their parents/extended family (if possible), and the government to provide for themselves and their kid because whatever work they found didn’t pay enough. Most of these sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 05:21 AM
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I feel this. I’m a 28F with ADD, and I struggle socially because of how direct I am, and a lot of people hate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 03:55 AM
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I think I was conflating the other poster’s comment on your social skills with your statement, and I misunderstood you. My apologies!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 12:35 AM
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I don’t believe they were implying that reading feminist literature (assuming that’s the kind of book they meant) would solve the problems faced by you and many men. Reading feminist literature could help you understand the movement better and help a little, but that won’t solve yours problems. I know you didn’t make this about your social skills. However, you did ask if being a man means you have “poor socialisation,” hence my response.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 09:42 PM
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I’ve been a lurker on Reddit for a while, and only recently started posting (soon after finding this sub Reddit). When I say online, I mean on Facebook when I was a regular user. I’m sorry your exposure to feminism has been so negative. My experiences with other feminists are sometimes negative, sometimes positive. Online it’s rarely positive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 11:50 AM
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They didn’t say that you have poor social skills because you’re a man. They never said that men are a hive mind or that reading one book on feminism will solve all problems. They only said that you have poor social skills, and suggested you read a book on (I’m assuming) basic feminist and/or communication.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 09:56 AM
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You’ve never seen feminists call each other out IRL or online? I’ve a feminist and woman, and I’ve called out fake feminists and/or toxic femininity many times. Both in-person and online. Do you know a lot of feminists?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 09:53 AM
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In my experience, the men that think this way have been very weak emotionally and prone to negative behaviour other than crying. The men with the most emotional strength I’ve known have never thought like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 06:11 AM
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Crying because you’ve been diagnosed with cancer, which will kill you unless you pursue expensive medical treatment is “losery” and “yuck” to you? I’m not an emotionally balanced person, but even I can say with absolute certainty that your view of vulnerability is unhealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 06:06 AM
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“Crying in weakness or self pity”? I wouldn’t dump my boyfriend for crying because he’s so stressed that he’s reached his breaking point, or he feels overwhelmed and depressed. If he always reacted that way to everything in life? I’d have problems. But I can understand crying because of being too stressed and feeling overburdened. It happens and I would support him however he needed me to.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 06:04 AM
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I’m sorry she reacted that way to your grief. Clearly there was something wrong with her emotionally. I’m saying this as a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 05:54 AM
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Normal women wouldn’t attack their male partners for expressing vulnerability to them because humans are a social species. We thrive when there’s social cohesion, and abusing our partners when they’re vulnerable is damaging to that cohesion. Normal men and women develop varying levels to empathy to navigate these social situations; whereas as socially and emotionally maladjusted men and women are more likely to react abusively/inappropriately during this social interactions with their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 05:52 AM
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I’m sorry, but this sounds like a toxic work environment. I work ER patient registration, which at my hospital means I work very closely with clinical staff. Most of the female nurses and techs I work with are not like that toward their male patients unless the patient’s behaved unpleasantly. This kind of behaviour wouldn’t be acceptable among my clinical coworkers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 05:46 AM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 05:42 AM
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If this is the treatment you’re used to, I wouldn’t be surprised if you’ve been conditioned to pursue these types of women - consciously or not. Have you considered seeking therapy to figure out why this keeps happening? A professional could help you a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 05:39 AM
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When did he say that women are perfect? He just told you his experiences with women in this specific situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 05:36 AM
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I’m sorry your women have treated you that way in the past. I can say, as a woman, that if I saw my boyfriend crying my reaction would vary depending on the context, but I would be: concerned, comfort/to provide support however he needs, and pained because I hate seeing my partner in pain (emotionally and physically).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 05:34 AM
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You’re free to decide if you want to pursue a relationship with a trauma survivor. You shouldn’t be expected to. But it’s also possible to have healthy relationships with them. Yes, you are not a licensed therapist; but if they’re seeking professional help, you can try to be part of their support network.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 04:55 AM
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Can you elaborate on “taking care of”? Because generally when I’m studying, I want to be left to my own devices. When I’m sick, I appreciate help where I need it; but otherwise I just sleep a lot until I’m better.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 04:49 AM
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I think when they this, they mean that want a partner on their level of maturity. I see a lot of people posting and talking about their life experiences, all with an air of having “reached the finish line.” I don’t think it’s common for people to consider that we’re always changing with each stage in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 04:47 AM
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Can you elaborate on that? Because there’s a huge difference between being someone’s parent and their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 04:42 AM
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Are you being sarcastic or serious?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 04:37 AM
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Well, my work requires me to interact with the general public. It’s impossible to not notice the people I’m serving.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 03:21 AM
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I didn’t realize I needed to ask for both. I assumed you’d share a source with statistics that supports your belief.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 12:45 AM
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I wasn’t acting stupid. I specifically wanted to know YOUR sources to potentially understand YOUR perspective. Your source only provides data, so it needs to be paired with sources that explain the cause/reasons for these statistics. I’ve talked to men that have given reasons other than “men don’t care about education” as the cause of these statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 12:26 AM
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I never said that ALL women seek high earning men for safety reasons. In fact, those women could be a minority. I’m saying that I don’t assume people’s intentions. Developing medical problems that require regular and potentially expensive medical care isn’t an unlikely event. It’s more common than people realise. I know this because I see it everyday.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 12:21 AM
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What did I assume? I think I’m just disagreeing with your position. If you think I’ve made an assumption, could elaborate on that point?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 11:44 PM
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You don’t know a single man that cares about education? If not, I recommend expanding your social circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 11:43 PM
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Am I being dishonest? Or do we both have different experiences and/educations that can better inform us? Empty headed gold diggers could be the majority of those women for all I know. Or not. Don’t assume.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 11:42 PM
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Does it? Plenty of men have told me that this statistic exists because society is failing boys in early education and/or other major areas of life. So, does education not matter or is society failing men and/or boys in key areas?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 11:38 PM
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I’m not moralising. I’m just choosing not to assume the intentions of an entire subsection of society. I’ve met women who have pursued high-earning men with good heads on their shoulders; but I have also met women like you’ve described. Never assume.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 11:36 PM
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I’m a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 11:32 PM
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Unexpected medical debt is a self delusion? Lol I work for a hospital, hun. It’s a very real problem people face and not uncommon. Embracing life also means embracing your mortality and the fragility of the human body. It means accepting that someday, your body might fail and require expensive medical care to continue living. Your children might be born missing an organ or some other issue that requires expensive medical care to continue living.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 11:31 PM
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I see plenty of average looking men succeeding with women in their age group. Yes, even if they’re in their early 20’s. Hell, I see plenty of genuinely unattractive young men succeeding with women. This sounds like a very inexperienced worldview to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 11:26 PM
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So, unexpected medical debt and wanting to be able to afford such costly expenses isn’t a concern for anyone? For example, my parents didn’t expect or prepare for me to born missing an organ. Thankfully I won the lottery of rare birth defects because my meds are inexpensive (even without insurance) as long I see my primary care doctor at least twice a year. But affordable, unexpected health issues aren’t the norm. Especially as we get older and require more care to manage these issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 11:21 PM
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Thank you for sharing this source! The article didn’t delve into WHY the population of male students has decreased, though. Is it because women care about education more? Or is society failing boys and not properly preparing them to pursue a higher education?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 11:16 PM
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So, if someone develops medical problems that require expensive medical care to live, is it always the individual’s fault this happened?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 11:06 PM
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Plenty of “our parents” (my parents and grandparents are/were Boomers) lived beyond their means without realising that they were. In fact, many are only starting to realise how poorly they planned their future and the future of their kids/grandkids.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 11:03 PM
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You might have to give on important things, such as being able to comfortably afford healthcare if you develop serious medical issues; or you may have to leave your community/family to move somewhere with a lower COL/lower quality educational system. If giving up on luxury living is your only example, then I envy your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 11:00 PM
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It depends on the lifestyle you and your partner want. Your example is one. Maybe the SAHM/SAHD wants to live in a certain area because of family roots, the school system, etc. and it’s an area with a high COL?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 10:56 PM
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“Living up to your eyeballs in debt to pose for approval of strangers is hell.” While I know plenty of people do this, this isn’t the majority of people with debt. Medical debt, for example, isn’t uncommon and is impossible to plan for.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 10:51 PM
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“Living beyond your means” can mean different things for different people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 10:47 PM
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How do you know they’re materialistic? You can’t think of any reasons other than shallow materialism that could motivate a potential SAHW/SAHH to seek a high-earning spouse?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 10:43 PM
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That doesn’t mean this subreddit’s primary population are minors (although I could be wrong). This poster might be young and attempting to gain a broader perspective on the subject; however, I’m from a low educated and poor rural community, and it’s common to meet people of all age groups that don’t understand perspectives/aspects of life that, IMO, should be common knowledge. Especially by young adulthood.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 10:40 PM
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I can Google my own sources just fine. I’m asking for YOUR sources to understand where you’re coming from. Do you have a source that not behind a paywall?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 09:59 PM
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I responded 11 days later. Can you show me your source?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 07:38 PM
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If you know that I said my “bubble” isn’t the majority, then why even mention that? We agree on this, so I’m not sure what you’re arguing here. So we agree that men and women are individuals? Cool. Can you show me your sources on the 60/40 statistic? I’m not playing coy. I’m just trying to understand why you’re arguing points that we agree on.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 03:16 PM
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Also, some men do value a woman’s education, too. My boyfriend has a higher education, and he wouldn’t invest in a relationship with me if I wasn’t pursuing a higher education myself. I’m starting later than he did, and he’s fine with that; but he expects his partner to be both career and family oriented. Other men like my boyfriend exist, and frankly, more men should adopt stricter standards just like women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 08:33 PM
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How many is “yup”?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 08:14 PM
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I agreed that my “bubble” isn’t the majority. I’m saying that women, just like men, are individuals and that relationships are now free to be formed based on what those individuals want. There are women who care about education, and there’s women that could care less. If you’re going to debate my point, make sure it’s a point that I’m actually arguing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 08:02 PM
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I’m aware that anecdotal evidence isn’t enough to set a standard. But when I look at my friends and coworkers, I see many who are in my situation and many who aren’t. Basically, I’m seeing plenty of ordinary guys that are attractive to women, and plenty who aren’t. Now that women don’t need men to provide for us, we can pick partners that meet our standards. Some ordinary guys meet those standards, some don’t. It depends on the individuals involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 05:05 PM
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Lol My boyfriend is an ordinary man, and I find him more attractive than “Chad’s” or whatever. My boyfriend and I have aligned long term, family goals, we’re both self sufficient and we work/handle house chores together. He treats me as his equal in life. That makes him more attractive to me than anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 03:24 PM
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How many bi girls have you dealt with? And would you say that sample size is enough to represent an entire population?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 01:08 PM
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Do you have any proof that it’s a mental illness?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 11:32 AM
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I can buy my own stuff, thank you. Why do you think this negatively of bisexual women?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 08:50 PM
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This is just what I’ve been told, and I might have said empathy because I was connecting it to relating, which is what I know I struggle with. But the above description sounds more like apathy, whereas I thought lacking empathy would mean just being less empathic than average?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 07:15 AM
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Also, good point on my “relating to people” comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 05:59 AM
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Some signs that someone lacks empathy, that I express, are: 1. Being too critical of others. 2. Thinking someone is too sensitive. 3. An inability to cope with emotional situations (I either shut down or attempt to deflect with humour). 4. I lack patience for people’s emotional reactions. 5. Reacting with anger or impatience when I’m frustrated with other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 05:57 AM
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Those women exist, sure. But I’ve met genuinely articulate and/or empathetic women. Which is why I’m wondering if you’re surrounding yourself with inarticulate women/illogical women. I’m a woman and my logical skills are at least average. However, I struggle with empathy because I struggle with relating to men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 05:32 AM
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Would you share those studies? In my experience, when people claim that the stats show we need to go back to the kitchen, it’s because they didn’t read the full study.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 11:43 PM
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Have you considered that those are just the women you surround yourself with? Because I’m a woman, and this doesn’t describe me at all. It describes some women I know, but not all or even most.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 10:02 PM
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Have you considered that you just surround yourself with inarticulate women? Or that you seek to engage with them more?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 09:59 PM
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Why do you think it’s illogical to assume the political affiliation of people with that exact combination of beliefs and interests? This is the accepted culture in the area where I live (very rural), and generally if I guess this person’s a Republican, 7 out 10 teams I’ll be right be.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 09:53 PM
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If this is true, then kudos to you. There’s only women in my Dept.; some of them are fine, but a few on the other shifts are toxic. Always gossiping about others, backstabbing… I quickly learned which girls were toxic, and avoid talking to beyond getting and giving report. They tried to rope me in with gossip, but as soon as they’d start trashing someone, I’d find an excuse to walk away. I won’t tolerate that nonsense. I can tell management is either struggling to deal with it, or they don’t wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 04:07 AM
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In my experience, as a grown woman, only immature women behave this way. Especially if the adult women in their formative years acted the same. Some of the women I’ve worked with/the only I hangout with tend to fall into the “you go girl” camp. I never have a problem with them, and if I do we handle it like adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 03:57 AM
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I’m sorry that’s been your primary experience. I know women like that, too, and whenever those coworkers go on their tirades about men, I politely shut them down. (None of my female friends are like that; I won’t tolerate that in my personal life).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 04:03 AM
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Lol Originality isn’t one of your strengths, is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 03:57 AM
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I’ve stated what I’ve experienced but I also admitted that I can’t prove which is the majority. I’m not asserting my lived experience as being enough proof. Do most women say that, and only women? Because I hear it from both sides, and the men and women that say that are waving red flags telling you that THEY were the asshole the relationship. Which isn’t everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 03:52 AM
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I’m not mad, sweetie. I’m just bored.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 03:42 AM
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I asked for evidence and you refused to present it. Instead you’re asserting that you’re right because that’s what you want to believe. Also, nice job projecting, but we both know you’re not interested in reality. Otherwise you’d bother to actual research your own beliefs before asserting that they’re true.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 03:34 AM
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It’s not “basic math,” you just lack basic reading comprehension; or you can’t back your claims, and you’re acting out. Probably the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 03:28 AM
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Most of the recovery will need to come from within. (Attracting new, lucrative industries and parents investing in their kid’s education more). But that will take time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 03:26 AM
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That’s not how reality works. Grow up and debate like an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 03:14 AM
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Lol Adorable. You’re snarky response just shows that you can’t prove your claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 03:11 AM
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The communities on my area are struggling because the industries that supported them - family farming and manufacturing - are dying industries. Instead of adapting, many people in my parents generation refused and demand we bring the “good old days” back. That’s led to increases in joblessness or family settling for low paying work, increased poverty, increased drug and mental health problems. But theres a new generation that’s doing their best to adapt and survive long enough to keep these comm…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 03:08 AM
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But I will agree that those communities are struggling. The reasons are complex and completely off-topic, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 02:52 AM
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Honestly, men and women both have diseases one is more at risk to. Combined with genes and lifestyle choices, both sexes could up as the caretaker. It depends on the couple. I see both men and women caretakers in aging couples because of my work.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 02:46 AM
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What are you talking about? I’m from a rural with rural communities that still exist. I’m surrounded by young families with roots that are fighting to keep these communities going.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 02:27 AM
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What if the mother doesn’t want to leave her jobs for a few years because it could damage her career? If we can afford it, my boyfriend and I would love an opportunity to let him stay home with our kids. It’s unlikely to happen with our first child, but maybe possible with the second or third.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 02:19 AM
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So, your anecdotal evidence is right and I’m the misinformed exception because you say so, even though you haven’t done any actual research?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 02:07 AM
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How did you get “only teen single mothers are whores” out of what I said? I meant that if the majority of mothers weren’t trying to caution their teen daughters against “bad boys,” the majority of mothers would be teen pregnancies. But they’re not, so clearly my peers aren’t an exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 02:04 AM
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Got any evidence? Because to even say which is the majority requires proof. I doubt they’re the majority, but I haven’t done enough to confirm my hunch.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 02:00 AM
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No. That’s not what I said. Re-read my comment and try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 01:55 AM
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Surely I’m not the only woman with enough sense to come this decision. If you’re going to speak for an entire population, you should have evidence to back your claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 01:53 AM
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If the majority of mothers are irresponsible whores encouraging their daughters to be irresponsible whores, then the majority of mothers should be teen pregnancies. And yet that’s not the case. Now why is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 01:50 AM
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Lol How did I guess that would be your answer. I don’t want a “bad boy” because I want to raise my kids in a healthy family. “Bad boys” don’t fit that goal. Most of the women I’ve met dating “baby boys” are either immature or they have a mental/behavioral problem that makes bad decisions more attractive to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 01:44 AM
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I’m well-aware that many women AND men date people that are obviously a mistake; not everyone isn’t lucky enough to have parents like my friends and co-workers. But that doesn’t mean that me and my peers are the exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 01:39 AM
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Wow…that’s a lot. What was the total population size?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 01:24 AM
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How is my mom the exception? None of the mothers I know encourage their daughters to “share/chase Chad’s.” They’re all cautioning them against dating those men, and teaching them how to vet and avoid them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 01:21 AM
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What was the sample size compared to the total population of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 01:16 AM
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You’re aware that the Americans against interracial racial and gay marriage are two or three generations older than this chick is, right? The “inconsistency” is societal morality changing as the next generations are born.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 12:28 AM
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When I was nineteen, I was attracted to older men - even men in their 30’s. (I was also a virgin and I never dated in high school.) Me and a 28 year old guy - with a lot of experience- started talking, but after getting to know me, he decided to stay friends. He was more established in life - he knew what he wanted; whereas I was still figuring myself out. I knew that I wanted to get married and have a family someday, but he never wanted kids. Those two clashing goals and my lack of direction/li…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 12:14 AM
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My mom cautioned me against dating men for their looks. She always encouraged me to value loyalty in my future marriage. Why is my experience different from the “norm”?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 11:12 PM
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How do you “know” that all women love assholes?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 11:06 PM
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In my experience, a lot of women and men cheat. Even people that I never expected. Have you considered that you’re fixating on women’s infidelity and becoming blind to men’s?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 10:32 PM
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I’ll trust my boyfriend when he encourages my studies and hard work over you. There’s plenty of independent men that still marry women that can match their the man’s education and earning power because those women stimulate them mentally. I’ve met those married couples, and many of them have been together for years. These are mature men that want more out of life than sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 06:05 AM
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Lol No man - high value or not - will have leverage over me. If he doesn’t consider me his equal, then I’m ending the relationship. Period. My boyfriend doesn’t need me to get by, and yet he still supports my decision to have a career. Fun is good in a spouse, but when men want their wife to stimulate them mentally, they often value ambition and responsibility in those women. (Creates reminder for 6 years now.) Got it. It’s not a bad bet if the man values his wife as a person and not just as a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 09:58 PM
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We have different definitions of high value men. If a man only wants “fast cars and sluts,” then I think he’s immature. That’s not a high value man. And when a man is being betabuxxed, I feel sorry for him and I think he should leave the woman. No one should be used that way. So, when a man is successful the woman has no value other than being used for sex? Successful men see us as living sex toys and that’s it? Sorry, but I want more out of life. I want an education that will give me the traini…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 09:15 PM
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Both men and women should be expected to compromise. It’s a sign of maturity in adults, and maturity makes someone a high-value partner, and I want a mature partner. So IMO a HVM will compromise as long as his spouse does, too. What does the man get out of it? I don’t know, it depends on what he wants out of it. Different men want different things from a partner. If men can be devoted to their family and have a career, why can’t women? I’ve met plenty of women that were devoted mothers while hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 03:37 PM
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I care more about balancing happiness and satisfaction between the husband and wife, which requires both to compromise. Life doesn’t have to suck for the woman or the man. Women shouldn’t be expected to devote every hour of our waking life to our family. But if both parents will have careers, they need to make sure that they have a small family (usually 1 or 2 kids), and wait to have the second kid after their first kid starts elementary school. That will allow the parents to give both children …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 10:26 PM
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You’re not hating on working moms? Is that why you call ideal of “having a career and a family” and feminist delusion almost always ends in divorce? Sounds pretty hateful to me. It’s fine if you decided to have a large family and be a SAMH. It’s fine if the “career mom” lifestyle isn’t for you. But when you put down working moms (claiming most of them neglect their kids and their marriages end in divorce; calling the lifestyle a delusion), you need to stop and check yourself. Your way isn’t the …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 09:48 PM
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I’ve know some career women that balanced their career with their family, are close with their kids, and their marriages are still going strong. I’ve also known some career women who’s marriages ended in divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 09:40 PM
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Most career mothers only have 1-3 kids. Not every woman wants to have a huge family, so those women can balance a small family with a career.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 03:41 PM
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Lol Back to hating working moms again? You poor thing. Just admit that you don’t care what I think, because I’m not going to talk in circles. A “kid shrink” is a child therapist or counselor.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 03:28 PM
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College is an investment: Your education is supposed to payoff later when you finish school and start your career. So, that Law Degree could’ve have supported your family later, once you started your career and after you finished your degree. Is this why you hate education?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 03:23 PM
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My mom and aunt didn’t spend enough time with their kids? Lol Mom was a SAHM until both my sister and I were in school, and then she started working again. While we were at school, she was at work; she came home an hour after we got off of school. Whenever she wasn’t at work, she was home with us. My aunt was the same with her children. They made sure they prioritized their children on top of working full time. I thought your therapist friend was your friend? Is the therapist your mother?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 03:18 PM
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Lol I feel sorry for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 10:37 AM
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Having a lot of kids doesn’t make you an expert on child psychology and development. My mom respects therapists and she’s a mother of two, and my aunt respects them and she’s a mother of three. Both my mom and my aunt went to University, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 10:31 AM
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Lol Of course you’d say that. But I hate to break to you, but I can guarantee she understands kids better than because of her experience working with kids, being a mother, and her education.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 10:28 AM
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It doesn’t matter how many children you birth and raise. That doesn’t make you an expert on child psychology and development.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 10:19 AM
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I’ve cared for a child before, and I’ve worked with psychologists with extensive knowledge of child psychology.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 10:18 AM
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Lol Yes, that’s one of many ways kids will learn things. I’m speaking from experience here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 10:16 AM
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You should care about self-respect. Because if you aren’t respecting yourself, your kids will see that and might assume it’s OK to let others use and abuse them. Since you’re a parent, showing respect for yourself and others should be very important. You and your husband are supposed to be their role models.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 10:06 AM
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You’ve lived with 1 man for 20 years. A sample size of 1 doesn’t tell you much about men in general Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 09:58 AM
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Some men do, but not all men. That’s what my boyfriend and I want. I don’t understand why you can’t accept that different people want lifestyles that are different from yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 09:19 AM
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It wouldn’t matter to me whether he cares or not. I would only care that I left a relationship where I wasn’t being respected, which would also teach my future kids not to let others disrespect them. That’s all that would matter to me. Lol Am I supposed to be insulted by the idea of a man I left going for younger women? I don’t care about growing old - it’s a natural part of life (if you live a full life, of course).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 09:14 AM
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I don’t know if it will work out for me and him; but if we follow their example, I think we’re more likely to make it work. Nothing is guaranteed in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 08:39 AM
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Not if I don’t let him. If he tries, I’ll walk. Simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 08:38 AM
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It’s not a fantasy. Being a working mother won’t be easy; my mom worked and so did my aunt. But I want to serve my community both as healthcare provider and a mother. My boyfriend’s parents are still married to each other, in their 60’s, after raising three kids with both parents working. It wasn’t easy, but they’re an example of how it’s possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 08:13 AM
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In my experience, having self-respective benefits me at work and at home. I met my quality value man because he wants a woman that respects both him and herself - we want and expect to be equal partners in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 08:10 AM
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That’s nice. I’ll enjoy having a quality husband that respects me and our monogamous marriage, going to college, and using that education to work in healthcare to serve my community. I’ll become a role model for my children as both a mother and in service to my community.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 06:55 AM
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If my boyfriend told me to buy him hookers, I’d pick up and before he could blink. I won’t tolerate or pay a drugged up hooker with my future husband out of self-respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 06:51 AM
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That life isn’t for all women. I prefer going to college for a career in healthcare, and spend my life using my education to better my community and be a role model for my future children.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 06:30 AM
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I know some women that wished they could be SAHM’s. But none of them would want it if it meant having to hire drugged out prostitutes for their husband, going to a brothel, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 06:26 AM
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I 100% agree with you. The problem is that socioeconomic status affects how many women can turn to the courts when fathers won’t pay the child support. Many of the women I saw abusing custody courts had the means to do so; but many of the single women I’ve known can’t afford to take the fathers to court over it. I grew up in a rural community where poverty is on the rise, and has been for most of my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 01:40 PM
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You’re not wrong. I’m not very familiar with Russia’s history. I just know some very surface level, general information.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 01:32 PM
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Yes, hospitals do separate Covid-19 patients from other patients. But hospitals are also being overwhelmed. I would know seeing as I work for one in a population with high vaccine hesitancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 01:29 PM
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Who goes to the TV for medical advice? Lol I asked my primary care doctor (he’s been my doctor since I was 13 years old, so he’s very familiar with my medical history as well as my mother’s), as well as the many nurses and doctors in my workplace (when they had the time). Based on my medical history (I’m a moderate to high risk for long-term health issues if I get Covid-19), and the information provided by trained medical professionals, I decided to get the Pfizer vaccine Dec/Jan, and I just rec…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 01:24 PM
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I agree that parents who are good people and parents should get joint custody (and either both pay or neither pay child support). But if I’m reading your comments right, it sounds like you want all states to have a presumption of joint custody. Frankly, my dad never should have had kids, and he shouldn’t have even been given visitation rights. I feel like both parents should have to prove that they’re fit before being granted custody. I’m not sure what that system would look like, but it should …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 11:22 AM
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It depends on the situation. When my parents divorced (I was in high school), my dad only wanted visitation rights and refused to pay the child support he owed my mom. She couldn’t afford to take him to court over child support. After more than a decade of being abused by him, I decided that he can’t see me if he refused to help provide for me for just two more years. Every custody situation is different and there’s a lot of details people never hear. I come from a poor rural area where half of …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 11:05 AM
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I’m sorry to hear that. This sounds like it was complicated situation - I agree that you shouldn’t have been expected to stick the situation out if it made you unhappy, but I understand why she reacted the way she did. It might have been a trauma response, and honestly leaving might have been the best thing for both of you. I struggle with childhood PTSD, and it’s caused issues between my boyfriend and I. We’re working things out slowly, but I also understand why he almost broke up with me. I’m …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 10:22 AM
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Ugh, I’m sorry that that’s happened to you. A lot of my female coworkers share TMI all the time, and they use “we’re all girls here” as an excuse. (I keep things professional for when I’m looking to start and advance my career).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 10:03 AM
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Not all women are like that. There’s a lot of details I haven’t shared on girl’s nights out of respect for my boyfriend, and he always speak generally about our sex life. He’s a very private guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 09:55 AM
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My male friends are honest about their sex life when the details are relevant. If they are making something up, their girlfriends/wives usually call them out or they’re claim is meant jokingly (which I can tell from their tone or by how ridiculous the claim is). We all hangout as a group, so there’s a lot of banter between couples during these discussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 09:48 AM
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I’m in a weird situation. My friend group is almost entirely made up of couples (although the only single guy recently started dating someone). Whenever sex is brought up, it’s either very general (from both the men and women) or we go TMI if the details are relevant to the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 09:44 AM
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I’m on the left politically (but I’m from a moderate right wing family and area that’s swung further right in recent years). I can’t date someone who’s beliefs are the complete opposite of mine; but my boyfriend is closer to center-left than me, so there’s some things we disagree on. But we either agree to disagree or find some common ground with issues we disagree on. However, I don’t feel safe saying that I’m an atheist when a new coworker asks what church I go to, or expressing my political o…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 09:36 AM
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I agree that women and men should be allowed to put their needs first; but where I live, the cultural narrative still encourages women to “accept” pregnancy as a consequence of exploring our sexual options. Plenty of men - including my own father - weren’t taken to court to begin with or reported for not paying child support because the mothers couldn’t afford the fees. I was petrified of dating in high school because I wouldn’t have access to birth control, so I didn’t date until I was an adult…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 09:24 AM
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Are all women putting themselves first? Because I‘ve known plenty of women who put their family first and foremost, even when they need to put them self first once and a while; and I’ve met plenty of self absorbed women that can’t even be bothered to do more than the bare minimum for their own kids, and they’re always trash talking men because they can’t hold a relationship. I know plenty of men in my age group - late 20’s - that freely explored their options before settling down. Some still hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 08:53 AM
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I agree that men and women both should be free to change their mind. But none of us are free from the social consequences of abandoning our partner and newborn child to put our sex life first. People should explore their options before they get married and procreate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 08:33 AM
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It depends on the situation. May I ask why she went on a sex strike? You don’t go from a normal and happy relationship to just withholding sex for no reason. (You might have been justified to walk, or she might have been justified in not having sex, maybe both parties were justified or both of you were wrong.)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 08:23 AM
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So…gimp’s suggestion to buy the husband hookers to keep him around - even post childbirth- is an actual problem in Russia? What o.O?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 08:17 AM
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Yes, women aren’t entitled to relationships; but if the man agreed to a monogamous relationship and to having the kid, then decides to leave the woman because she won’t provide him while she’s recovering from childbirth, then he’s free to leave and deserves the judgement that will come with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 08:16 AM
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Have you given birth before? Or if you haven’t, do you know many women that have? Because I do, and their libidos recovered at different rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 08:10 AM
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