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If you have the opportunity, and you want it then go for it. But for some this might be fantasy
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 06:22 AM
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I don’t think you should give up, but you could do a lot of work and no success. Some people definitely are not unattractive, probably just need a bit of tidy up to stand out and a bit of confidence. I think it’s good to give it a try, because you don’t have much to lose. But you should also be aware that it might not work, but it’s still good to look and feel good
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 10:24 PM
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Although attraction is and can be an important factor, I also think your life status may affect that too. I’ve noticed some people will work hours trying to keep themselves afloat, which hardly leaves time for dating. Some people, might not be where they want which a relationship might not even solve. I think it really depends, but relationships you’ve got to be able to nurture them with time, and if you ain’t got it, there’s no point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 10:12 PM
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Yes, I kind of get it. I’ve noticed that same sex schools have these sort of outcomes unfortunately. It can happen with mixed schools as well, but I guess it depends on personality and how you relate with others. I would say it’s never too late, improving ourselves it’s always a positive
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 10:08 PM
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Yes but based on their point, if you’re not attractive, you will hardly get a chance either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 10:05 PM
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I think it’s important to utilise the first few years of teenage life to learn about both sides, boys and girls. This helps to explore our sexuality and it might make it a bit easier to understand the other side, or at least develop some sort of relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 09:54 PM
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The choice is you choosing to pursue
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 02:04 PM
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I agree, the experience you might have as a POC are totally different and not even taken into consideration here
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 11:37 AM
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You don’t pay someone to pretend to like you when you go for sex workers. You usually use them to fulfil physical needs. If you go around saying that you want to have sex, then people will give you the most “sensible” answer. If you say that you want a relationship, that changes everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 12:55 PM
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True, I’ve realised this some time ago. I am the one to blame when I don’t try something because I allow confidence to cloud my judgment. Yes, things will happen around you but you’re not less than anyone, you can still get a lot done if you want
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 12:51 PM
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Then don’t act like one bro 🤙
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 01:31 PM
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You’re not necessarily wrong, your argument just lack substance hence my comment. The fact that you’re a man or woman isn’t the problem, therefore you don’t need to play victim
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 12:58 PM
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I don’t need to say shut up, throughout the conversation you didn’t say anything of substance rather than raising your “voice” but nothing substantial out of it. This wasn’t meant to be offensive as explained. That’s the reason for the comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 12:52 PM
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Who do you mean by “y’all”? I haven’t insulted or offended anyone. You seem very upset about this. Take it easy, it’s not that serious bro. You’re picking fights when no one has attacked you. That’s not normal. But you do you 🤙
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 12:42 PM
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The discussion centers around women, so isn’t it likely that women will be the main voices in this conversation? I don’t agree with calling people “retarded,” but I’m sure the original poster can defend their argument if they believe in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 12:34 PM
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Sometimes it’s okay to not say anything
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 09:38 AM
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It’s not wrong to desire it, but that doesn’t mean you’ll get something that requires a consenting second person.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 06:50 PM
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I think it varies from person to person. Some people aren't taught anything about dating, and most don’t even know what they want until later in life. They might realize they never wanted a relationship, or they might discover they're not as straight as they thought. This is just part of being human and navigating life. When it comes to dating preferences, unless someone approaches you, you’re probably not part of their preference. For instance, someone might say they like to date people with bl…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 03:30 PM
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People often lie, particularly in person or in a group, to avoid looking bad in social situations like dating. It can be easier for them to be honest online, where their identity is less known.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 03:25 PM
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It’s not necessarily impossible, you want something you go for it, but there’s no guarantee when it comes to actually having a relationship with someone else. But trying is definitely better than not trying at all
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 07:04 PM
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If the shoe fits, wear it Cinderella
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 02:09 PM
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To conclude the conversation, your intentions have changed, and you'll seek out people who want the same things as you (e.g. marriage). However, this doesn't mean you'll settle for someone unattractive or that you don’t like. The person you choose should be someone you genuinely see a future with, not someone you're merely settling for. So, it’s not enough that they want marriage, unless you’re compatible in other ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 12:50 PM
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I'm interested in what's available right now, not in future possibilities. Discussions about future benefits would need to be addressed with the government. The marriage allowance is like other benefits: if you don't qualify, you miss out. It’s only beneficial if there’s a low earner, which isn't always worthwhile. In contrast, the single person discount is straightforward. As long as no other adult occupies your accommodation, you receive the discount. When it comes to relationships, you wouldn…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 12:10 PM
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The marriage allowance is similar to applying for a single person council tax discount. If you qualify, you apply and receive it. These benefits are available based on your marital or single status, but your base salary doesn't change because of your relationship status. Your take-home pay can be affected by various factors, including benefits and claims, debts etc. Supporting people who want to marry and start a family but need financial assistance can help them achieve their goals. It allows t…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:48 AM
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Receiving deductions for university education or requesting extra government assistance if you qualify is expected entitlement. However, pay discrimination based on relationship status doesn't occur. Your standard take-home pay may be £1000, but personal circumstances can affect this. What you're eligible for differs from your base salary. Supporting marriage and young couples can facilitate starting families earlier, benefiting those who aspire to do so. However, this doesn't automatically make…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:19 AM
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Tax and National Insurance (NI) contributions are based on income, which can be influenced by factors like multiple jobs or student loans. There are opportunities to claim refunds or deductions based on eligibility criteria, but your relationship status doesn't affect your pay rate. For instance, council tax may assume multiple adults in a household, but you can inform them of your single status to receive a discount, similar to discounts for students, parents, or single parents. Eligibility for…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 10:34 AM
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Certainly, everyone who works contributes to taxes, which are used to fund various benefits and services. Taxes are deducted from your salary based on your income level, and while certain deductions or refunds may be available for individuals with children or disabilities, tax rates aren't influenced by relationship status. Regarding the article you are looking for, please share it as I would love to read it. The article I’ve found discusses the concept of a "single tax," which suggests that sin…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 09:55 AM
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I'm referring to the idea of forcing people to have children against their will, which is not supported by laws. If the government truly wants to assist, they should provide support to single or parents desiring children to enable them to have and raise children without financial strain. Starting there could lead to success, rather than trying to compel people who never desired children in the first place. Supporting parents through tax reliefs or ensuring they can allocate most of their income …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 09:08 AM
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To be fair, single people often receive certain discounts, so claiming they don't isn't accurate. While there have been instances of this in the past, do you really think it's plausible now? In today's world, everyone is entitled to fair treatment regardless of their relationship status. The situations you're describing are outdated and contradict most current laws. Essentially, you're talking about a fantasy scenario. The only effective way to encourage people to have children is by supporting …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 08:29 AM
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You can't fine people for having children unless they choose to have children and neglect them. That's why there are children in the care system—because some parents fail to provide for them. However, you can't force anyone to have children. Having children isn't the same as paying for a gym membership or any other paid service. Your argument lacks substance and doesn't make sense. With a gym membership, you have a contract to pay a specific amount, and if you don't pay, you can't use the servic…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 07:58 AM
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Your argument still lacks substance. For example, freeloaders not paying for train tickets are a problem because paying for tickets is required to use the train service. It's not optional, and there are systems in place to enforce this, like barriers and ticket inspectors, with fines for non-payment. Everyone using the train service needs to pay, as the company is entitled to that revenue. However, you have alternatives, such as cheaper bus options, so you have a choice. When it comes to childre…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 07:29 AM
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I don’t think so, that’s not how it works. In some aspect of life that’s true, but not in all.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 06:35 AM
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If your actions are calculated because you expect a reward, then you have ulterior motives. Using athletes or competitors as an example isn't valid because they're essentially doing their jobs and putting in effort because it's required. Your last point misses my argument. If your intention is to genuinely help cancer patients by investing in a hospital, then your action is good. Your name will be recognized regardless. However, if your sole reason is to appear on television, then your motives a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 06:35 AM
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My comment isn’t specific to men but dating in general. I agree that changing your strategy in dating might help especially if you’ve not had many successes but that can still not yield the results. Still, it is at your discretion to keep going or give up. But relationships and dating are a want, but not necessarily an entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 06:25 AM
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Please refer to my initial comment. I clearly stated that if you perform good deeds while expecting rewards, you're not truly acting out of goodness. It's simple: if you help someone solely with the expectation of receiving something in return, it's not genuine assistance; it's a transaction. Therefore, it lacks sincerity. Consider this: if the reward aspect was removed and someone needed help after an incident, would you still assist them?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 12:28 AM
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I haven't taken you seriously from the start. Go find something else to do; I'm not interested. Find a mirror, look at it break and do it again. If you ever become useful or relevan, then maybe I'll consider engaging with you, but you're not there yet. And your opinion doesn't hold value to me either. So, I'll leave first; you can stay in your crazy chat you’re taking to hear. I don't engage in that. 💅🏾 Remember to take your meds.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 12:23 AM
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Yes, good piss off now ✌️
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 12:18 AM
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You’re repeating what I said, you just sound stupid. Would have respected you more if you came up with your own. Such a pity for society. It’s behind the screen anyway, so I don’t blame you 😂 Better that way. You’ll probably not even get that chance otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 12:16 AM
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I am pitying you to be fair 😳 like I understand it. Loneliness is not good, get yourself a cat. You’re under my post, clever girl. Told you to bore off, yet you’re still here. Are you that off ?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 12:14 AM
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See ya girl 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 12:10 AM
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Yes, you’re lost 😂😂 see ya
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 12:08 AM
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Honestly, you're wasting your time with most of them; their arguments are completely off track. 😂 I've tried explaining to people that you can't expect a reward for simply being good or doing something kind, and they're arguing against it. But really, when do people get rewarded just for being decent human beings? Like, if you don’t get rewards, your true colours come in?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 12:06 AM
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I was asking myself why you’re still under my comment, guess the meds are not working. 😂 see ya love
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 11:59 PM
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Who are the multiple people? I was referring to someone like you that brought up a stupid argument? I suppose birds of a feather flock together here. Y’all can connect and do nails together 😵‍💫😂 give each other brain. I’ll stop commenting as I don’t think this argument will go further and I ain’t doing therapy. So see you love
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 11:58 PM
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If I treat someone with basic decency, perhaps upon our first meeting, I don't necessarily expect them to like me or treat me the same way, but that's my approach to interacting with people. So, if they don't warm up to me, that's okay; I can't force anyone to like me. However, if they start being rude for no reason, then I reserve the right to defend myself. My behavior doesn't change until they give me a reason to do so. But I don’t expect them to treat me nice just because I did the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 11:55 PM
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Nope, I'm not wasting my time on them, same with you but you’re the most delusional so I like it. You and your buddies in the comments can have a chat with the wall and sing Kumbaya together. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 11:49 PM
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“Cute” 😂 like literally
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 11:47 PM
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You don't earn the title "great" for no reason. Either present your arguments or simply ignore the post. When you compete for the championship, every athlete has an equal chance. It's up to you to work hard to win it. And to maintain the title, you need to consistently perform well. It's that simple!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 11:46 PM
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“Why can’t I be reward for being human?” 😂 I might need to stop before your groups of cry babies attack me. Y’all go to the wall and be safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 11:42 PM
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“Racism” 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 11:41 PM
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“Be strong”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 11:39 PM
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You're already out of it, the meds have kicked in! 😂 Your point is invalid, sounds like a win to me. This is good, reminds me of people that require more help. Girl, get off them!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 11:37 PM
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Argue with the wall, can't you listen? Go away now, and as you mentioned, it's "ladies or children first!" So bore off
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 11:33 PM
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The level of effort required depends on whether being a good person comes naturally to you. As I mentioned earlier, you might inherently be a decent human being who performs good deeds. However, if you only do them for a reward, you're not genuinely a good person; you're treating acts of kindness as transactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 11:32 PM
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Yes, finally got the hint. Piss off now!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 11:26 PM
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Yes, apparently we were discussing racism. 😂 Boy, go sit down and argue with a wall, because I stopped taking you seriously from the start. You didn't realize that, though apparently. And don't start acting like a victim like the rest. You can be better than that. Good night, love.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 11:24 PM
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No, I've been saying from the start that your point is useless. You completely lost me when you brought up racism without any explanation. If you had a valid point, I would have been interested to hear it, but the argument suits you so I understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 11:19 PM
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It depends on their expectations. A great student, actor, or athlete earns their title through hard work and dedication. They didn’t achieve their “great” status without effort, so anything they gain from it is well-deserved, not a matter of entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 11:17 PM
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Why are you making this about yourselves? I'm not specifically talking about you; it's a general statement. Common decency, or basic human decency, involves actions that acknowledge and respect others without expecting any reward. Decency is given without expectations. Some people go beyond common decency, but it all boils down to respecting others, whether you know them or not. I've explained that being kind to someone isn't about expecting a reward; it's about decency. Helping someone with the…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 11:15 PM
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You jumped into my comment to start your own discussion. No wonder you brought up racism. 😂 I was specifically talking about doing good deeds solely for a reward, and you shifted the focus to people who aren't allowed to intervene in helpless situations, making it impossible to prove their motivations. So your argument remains invalid. Come back when you have a solid argument, or you might as well argue with yourself. Your point is useless either way. And please, do some research on racism. You …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 11:07 PM
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I think if you come across as entitled and someone points it out, it's not necessarily a bad thing. The issue might be more about your approach or mindset. For example, if you've won a prize, you're entitled to request that it be handed over. In this situation, you can take further action and others might support you, as you have a clear entitlement. However, this isn't the case with dating. People often start dating with the hope of forming a relationship, but frustration can set in when you ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 11:01 PM
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The original poster (OP) I replied to explicitly asked, "Ok, where is the reward for me going out of my way to do things for you?" Expecting a reward for helping someone is transactional, not genuine, and doesn't align with being a good person. Your argument revolves around individuals who may not be allowed to help, which doesn't address whether good deeds are done or if a reward is even feasible. So, your argument doesn't hold. Unless you're responding to someone else, it seems like you delved…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 10:48 PM
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In this case, it's not about receiving rewards, so that argument isn't valid. The main concern is that by stopping people from intervening in dire situations, we're effectively preventing them from providing genuine assistance. It's not about seeking a reward at the end; it simply means that individuals may be unable to help even if they genuinely want to, regardless of any potential rewards. My point revolves around the concept of being a good person and doing good deeds based on personal belie…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 10:21 PM
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Taking a test or entering a contest puts everyone on a level playing field, but success isn't guaranteed. Scoring high requires meeting specific criteria, yet even then, it's not a sure win. Factors like cheating or chance can impact outcomes. Similarly, joining a contest doesn't automatically entitle one to the top prize; it must be earned. Simply participating and feeling confident isn't enough; winning is the only assurance of claiming the prize. So you’re necessarily entitled only if you’ve …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 10:13 PM
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Good deeds might receive recognition, such as when someone saves a person attempting suicide and it gains media coverage. However, if seeking recognition is the motivation for helping, it doesn't stem from genuine goodness. Your argument involves a scenario where a country might punish its citizens for assisting in dire situations. This scenario doesn't align with my point, as it hinders people from helping rather than rewarding them. Using this example detracts from the discussion because we ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 09:52 PM
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Common decency involves treating people with respect and kindness, often without expecting anything in return. That's typically how I approach interactions, especially when meeting someone for the first time. While they may not end up liking me or forming a positive opinion, that's okay; everyone has the right to their own perceptions. However, if their behavior crosses the line into rudeness, such as fighting or spreading gossip, I reserve the right to set boundaries and defend myself. Yet, I w…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 09:14 PM
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They aren't necessarily afraid of punishment; they're simply exercising caution, which is understandable given the frequency of stabbings in this area. This caution doesn't imply they're wrong or bad; it's important to exercise common sense, as highlighted in my earlier point about not being a doormat. Some situations may warrant minimal involvement. My emphasis is on performing good deeds, typically acts done voluntarily. There may be constraints that limit one's actions, but this doesn't negat…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 09:04 PM
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I don't do good deeds expecting something in return. I treat other people with common decency without necessarily expecting the same in return. I might go above and beyond for people closer to me. I only become disinterested if someone is rude to me without reason. It's okay if you don't believe me; that's completely fine. When I do something, it's because I genuinely want to. If I don't want to do it, then I won't. Being genuine is that simple, I don’t overdo it or have unrealistic expectations…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 08:17 PM
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But that still doesn't mean they're entitled to a relationship. Why should they be entitled or privileged to have one? Wanting something and putting in the effort doesn't guarantee that you'll attain it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 08:09 PM
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That woo woo took me out
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 08:07 PM
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You have the right to be paid for your work, especially if you have a contract to support that entitlement. However, in cases where there's no contract, like with under-the-table jobs, being unpaid can leave you without recourse, and reporting it could even land you in trouble. When you pay for a service, you have the right to expect proper treatment. If you don't receive the service you paid for, you're within your rights to request a refund. While you may desire a relationship or a million-pou…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 08:03 PM
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Even where I live, which isn't in China, I've observed similar behaviors when it comes to people being attacked. Maybe few people will call the police, but some will just walk past like nothing happened. When I first came I wanted to intervene because it seemed strange to me, but over time, I understood why they chose not to get involved. It doesn't mean they were wrong; they had their reasons, which I came to respect. It's clear you're not really listening to yourself when you toss around the r…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 07:58 PM
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The point is, you don't do good deeds with the expectation of a reward. It's not about an abuser's logic; if I genuinely do something, I don't expect anything in return. For instance, if I take a friend out for a meal and pay for it, I don't anticipate them giving me something in exchange. If I did, then it wouldn't have been a genuine gesture. If they do give me something to thank me, then I’ll appreciate it. But I don’t expect it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 07:53 PM
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I've never said you can't have boundaries; you absolutely can and should exercise that right. Whether you're in a relationship or dating, setting boundaries is important. However, consider someone who doesn't have any dates or prospects for dating. They may desire a relationship, but would you say they are entitled to one?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 07:50 PM
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Through traveling, I've realized that things vary greatly from place to place. Every culture has its own customs. For instance, in some places, people don't hold doors open; it's not out of rudeness, they're just not accustomed to it. When I moved, I found that people enjoyed small talk, which was new to me. That didn't make me a bad person; I just hadn't experienced it before. Now, I'm more open to it. Does that make me a bad person? Should I get a cookie for learning to do small talk? As for r…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 07:44 PM
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You can exercise your right to your space in line, unless you get off that line for example, then the person after you is entitled to occupy that space and you having to go back to the line. You are entitled to basic decency from people and/or acquaintances and you’re within your rights to exercise your rights to be treated fairly. You are free to desire a romantic relationship and take steps to pursue one, but you are not entitled to it. It's natural to feel disappointed if online matches or da…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 07:34 PM
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They might not be accustomed to that, but it doesn't mean they have bad intentions. If you're genuinely good, your actions should remain consistent regardless of how others' choose to behave. Expecting something in return for your goodness means you're not truly good. That's just how it is. You can choose who you treat with kindness and offer basic decency to everyone else. However, expecting a reward for being good, like for simply saying thank you to supermarket staff, undermines the authentic…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 07:21 PM
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I was referring to the entitlement to have a relationship, not to the dynamics within one. Within a relationship, it's important to express your needs, and if you're not satisfied, leaving is always an option. So I am not disagreeing with that statement at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 07:06 PM
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You're overthinking it. If you're genuinely good, being kind to others will come naturally to you. This doesn't mean you're a doormat; it simply reflects your character and actions. If you expect a reward for being good, you may not be truly good. That's just the reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 07:03 PM
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That doesn't make sense. Treating people with common decency doesn't mean you should expect a reward. If you're genuinely a good person, certain things will naturally fall into place. If you get taken advantage, you have the right to take it on the person that did take advantage. Otherwise, you're just acting with the expectation of getting something in return. You’re not good essentially!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 06:58 PM
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People complaining are usually people that can’t get any date at all, plus paying for dates shouldn’t and doesn’t guarantee a relationship. It’s the first step to one tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 06:23 PM
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You have certain entitlements at work, such as holidays, because your contract guarantees them as long as you fulfill your required hours. However, when it comes to relationships, you are not entitled to one. You are free to desire a relationship, and it's great if it happens. But if it doesn't, that's okay too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 06:05 PM
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You don’t really get rewarded for being a good person, you either are or you’re not. If you expect that, then you’re dishonest
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:56 PM
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It's not necessary for everyone to have children. I don't mind having children, but someone else might not want to, and that's okay. You mentioned that fostering is something only parents should do, but even single people can foster as long as they provide the right environment for the children. They may not be the biological parents, but they still fulfill the role of parents. The quality of parenting is crucial. Some people resent their parents, so if you're going to be a parent, you should st…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:48 PM
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It might not solve the problem, but it helps to clean up the mess others created and support those who choose to have children. Childbirth isn't a necessity, but it's a nice privilege if that's your choice. Fostering can make you a "parent," even if you're single, as long as you have a suitable home for the child. Are you aware of that? The outcomes often stem from the quality of parenting, not the number of parents. The status doesn't matter as long as you're stable, and financial stability is …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:01 PM
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Yes, you can have children and foster children, but you can also be single and have foster children, contributing to society in a meaningful way. If you have children, you often have a support system or "village." Even without children, you can be part of that support system for others. Why should it be limited to married couples? What about single parents or widows? While the idea has merit, it doesn't include everyone. Incentives to start a family could be helpful but also open to abuse. For i…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:09 PM
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I wouldn’t compare them because they’re definitely different. Someone without children can still love children and contribute to their development in other ways. There are foster parents who help children from difficult backgrounds—would you call them freeloaders just because they didn’t want or have children of their own? How do you suggest we work to minimize this issue? If people have children because they genuinely want them and are stable, we would see more positive outcomes. Allowing anyon…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 11:06 AM
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How did you fail? Letting your children make their own choices doesn't mean you failed as a parent. I'd rather have people know what they want than follow everyone else blindly. You're speaking from your own experience, which might have been better than others, but that's not everyone's reality. Some people have it much worse and come from a less privileged position. They might have no one to rely on and no guaranteed future. Things can improve for them, but often a lot of damage needs to be und…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 10:28 AM
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Okay, right! So, after you've given them the tools and they decide they might not want a relationship or children like you did, then what happens? Loved children are crucial to society and early experiences can definitely shape their future. It's important they grow up in a nurturing environment. There's no point in having children if they end up in harmful situations, affecting themselves and others. There must be a purpose to bringing them into the world. You're discussing labor, but what’s th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 10:14 AM
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Your perspective worries me because you seem to believe that your way of life is the only valid choice. Do you allow your children to decide their own paths in life? Children are important, but only if they are wanted and well cared for. Unwanted and neglected children can be detrimental to society, often ending up in difficult situations due to irresponsible parenting. While some people still choose to have children, it doesn't mean everyone should unless they are ready to take on the responsib…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 09:21 AM
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The results are clearly not there with this type of thinking. I wish I could believe otherwise, but I just feel sorry for them. However, they'll grow up and eventually be able to leave, which is somewhat reassuring. People with children aren’t necessarily contributing more; they just have children. Someone without children might contribute in different ways. There’s no guarantee that having children equates to contributing positively to society. Your argument lacks substance. While a man can hel…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 08:54 AM
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They have adult responsibilities and are living their lives as they choose. You have a different perspective on life, and that’s okay. However, it doesn't mean others will want to live the way you do. How would you feel if someone told you that you’re not fit to have a family? You're misunderstanding the concept. The free-rider problem highlights individuals who take advantage of the system without contributing, which can apply to both people with and without children. Those without children mig…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 08:24 AM
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Honestly, I hoped you would list something out of the ordinary, but your “responsibilities” are things I've done since I was younger. I agree that children shouldn't have to worry about these issues, which is why people should have children only if they are prepared financially, emotionally, and physically. It's not everyone's responsibility to live the same way because everyone has their own choices, and that's okay. Solo motherhood by choice existed in the 80s but wasn't as common or accepted …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 07:42 AM
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I started working at 13, but I didn't have any decision-making power. My parents still made most of the decisions for me. I could make some choices, but at that age, you don't have much leverage. Saying your mother was “batshit” doesn't provide much context, as you likely had as little power at 12 as you do now. Could you rent an apartment? Feed yourself independently? Drive or own a car? Perform adult responsibilities at 12? Do you think it's everyone's responsibility to have children to sustai…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 02:52 PM
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What responsibilities did you have as a child? When you're young, you don't have much decision-making power. Choosing a boring job is often about survival. Children shouldn't be seen as a means for parents' survival or retirement plans. They should only be brought into the world if genuinely wanted and financially supported. How are they enjoying the labor of others? People can contribute to society in many ways besides having children or getting married. Yes, some people are lonely, but it's im…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:54 AM
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Do children or teenagers bear responsibilities? Exactly, how can someone who doesn't desire children raise them effectively? People who choose not to have children were once children themselves, never having asked to be born. It's not a responsibility you can impose on someone. While marriage rates may be declining, some women still pursue motherhood. Additionally, single individuals can still engage in various forms of companionship outside of traditional relationships. However, not everyone ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:31 AM
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How does not wanting a family equate to acting like children? Wouldn’t it be irresponsible to choose a life you don’t want to accommodate everyone else? If someone wants children, they should pursue that desire. However, some individuals either changed their minds or simply aren't interested in parenthood. Should they be pressured into it just because someone else thinks they should? There are various reasons why people make different choices. Some may prioritize starting a family earlier, while…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:47 AM
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Adults have the right to choose, and they can exercise that right without judgment. Not everyone desires a family, and that's perfectly acceptable. Your assumption is understandable, given the answers you provide. To be fair, this type of families are becoming more common, initially starting in the US but now also noticeable in the UK.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:33 AM
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Because that’s what adults do? Is it bad for someone to have prospects for the future? How’s a woman pursuing their own career and financial independence translates to wanting a guy who makes more money, are you being serious? Single mothers in marriage essentially means you’re married but doing or taking on a role similar/typical of a single mother. Adoption is one of the options but not everyone is able to go through this route, but some people do other things like sperm donation, surrogacy et…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:24 AM
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Independence is about relying on oneself with little to no outside support. While it isn't directly related to dating, it can have an impact. More women are pursuing careers and financial independence. Speaking from experience, I've seen how things have changed over the years. My aunts used to emphasize dating above all else, but now they stress the importance of having something for yourself as a backup. It's a better approach. For example, single mothers in marriages have become a trending top…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:12 AM
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I've told you several times, but it seems you don't like the answers. People today are more independent, which I mentioned before, and this can contribute to their choices. Some people don't feel the need for relationships. They're more open about their wants and needs, and some will only date if there's an incentive, like a strong connection or a secure future. I’ve mentioned social media can also influence their decisions, or some people go based on stats as well. That’s why I mentioned the st…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 09:55 AM
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I don’t think you’re making sense. Just because there are dating options (which might not include bad matches) doesn't mean everyone wants them, especially when singleness is a viable choice. Singleness is a legitimate option, and choosing not to date isn't a problem—it's a personal decision. Greater access means you can join the dating scene anytime, but opting out is also a valid choice. Some people thrive while being single, which can influence their decision. You should also consider how att…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 09:48 AM
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How is my argument "bullshit"? People aren't necessarily choosing to be single because of social media alone. As I stated earlier, social media has increased variety in dating options. It has helped some people get into relationships and provided more choices, but it also allows others to feel comfortable with their choice to remain single. Your argument doesn't make sense because having more people available doesn't guarantee relationships. If you have 10 people in a confined space, with 5 men …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 09:11 AM
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No one ever claimed it's the only reason; I’ve mentioned social media as part of the reasons why people choose to be single, and they have the right to make that choice. Unless it's an issue for them, why should we be concerned? You made your choices, would you want someone else deciding for you? I never said access to smartphones makes people single; I'm merely noting that more people have internet access now, with free WiFi available in many public spaces. Social media content can definitely h…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 08:19 AM
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You said that social media hasn't changed in 20 years, and I asked you to prove it. How has it stayed the same? Today, more people of all ages have access to smartphones. Even if you can't name an influencer, that doesn't mean they don't exist or make money off social media, which wasn't common years ago. Social media was initially created to connect with people you know, and occasionally with others you didn't, but it wasn't as easy as it is now. Nowadays, you can effortlessly connect with some…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 07:35 AM
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No, you need to prove your point because you claimed that social media today is similar to what it was 20 years ago. Show me that this is true. Prove that 20 years ago was no different from today. Tell me that influencers existed 20 years ago. Tell me that AI was prevalent back then. Tell me that everyone had access to touchscreen phones or even laptops 20 years ago. Tell me that people went out of their way to connect with others outside their immediate vicinity back then. Or you just don’t hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 07:07 AM
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Your argument has shifted significantly and isn't accurate, so do you actually have a point? Can you demonstrate that social media had the exact same impact in 20 years ago as it is now or even five years ago?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 07:00 AM
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In my opinion, polygamy wouldn't benefit women unless they were the ones marrying multiple husbands. This arrangement could allow them to have children with each husband, with each man taking care of his family. Even if the woman were to die, the children would still have their father as the breadwinner. On the other hand, if a man has multiple wives and dies, dividing the inheritance can become problematic. Monogamy remains the best option as long as you choose the right person, but it may not …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 06:04 PM
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Certainly. Here's a revised version: Yes, Facebook wasn't as popular and accessible as it is now. Nowadays, more people can connect through Facebook, and there’s more opportunities to reach more people (e.g. facebook online games, Facebook dating, Facebook groups etc). You don't need to remember the full history, and you are not a victim. Claiming that "everyone was on Facebook by 2004" is contradictory to your latest comment. If you were in university around that time, you should a bit more kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 01:48 PM
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Your argument contradicts itself. Facebook, launched in 2004, was initially limited to a specific group and gradually expanded to other countries starting in 2005. At the time, it was primarily used to connect with people you already knew and was not as influential as it is today. Subsequently, platforms like YouTube, Instagram, Snapchat, and TikTok emerged, greatly increasing the volume of social media content compared to 2004. You should be aware of this progression, or you’re just choosing to…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 12:40 PM
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When was Facebook created?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 12:20 PM
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Technology wasn’t as advanced as it is today? Even most social media were not available. So not sure how you would state that
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 12:09 PM
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Because they can. The same way now there’s more people who have no issues admitting they are in homosexual relationships. Not long ago some people were still marrying opposite sex, to hide they are DL.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 12:02 PM
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There are different reasons but not everyone wants a relationship, so why should they get into one?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 11:42 AM
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Why not now?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 11:26 AM
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My statement was general and not exclusive to women, as I'm aware of people in relationships with older women where money plays a role. However, I believe it's not solely about that. Some people simply don't desire a relationship, and that's perfectly fine. For those who do want it, they pursue it according to their own preferences, or don’t mind staying on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 11:08 AM
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The issue isn't that everyone is "starving" for a relationship; if someone chooses to stay single, they're likely comfortable with that lifestyle. Having options means there's more variety and awareness of what's available, but it doesn't guarantee success. For example, someone might desire an older, wealthy partner, but that doesn't mean they'll necessarily end up with one—they just know such options exist. And they might opt out of the dating scene or pursue that option further instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 10:23 AM
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There’s no argument here: some people are settling down with partners, creating families, getting engaged, or getting married. Others are choosing casual relationships without commitment, polyamorous relationships, or same-sex relationships. Some people find it challenging to get into any relationship at all. This is simply the reality of life—sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 10:09 AM
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I am not comparing the 1920s, people didn’t have social media but definitely had a lot of inputs from community and family. Relationships are not a right so there won’t be a lot that will be done or can be done. Doesn’t matter if 5 years people wanted to marry desperately
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 09:50 AM
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Today, it's entirely possible to have a fulfilling future while living on your own. In the past, remaining unmarried was often frowned upon. I believe it's best to marry only if there's a genuine connection and mutual understanding in the relationship. There's no point in staying or dating someone unless both parties agree and are happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 09:41 AM
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They are likely choosing to settle with people they genuinely like or see a future with, or sleeping with attractive people which is not uncommon. Most people prefer not to settle with someone they don't like. This is why I mentioned that money can sometimes be a factor in dating—because it provides some assurance of benefits. Dating is a personal choice, and as a result, some people will experience different outcomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 09:31 AM
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There are several reasons for this change, but one major factor is the advancement and accessibility of technology. A quick Google search can now provide information that wasn't available before, leading to more informed views on relationships. Additionally, people have more dating options today, extending beyond their immediate community. While I don't necessarily agree that the grass is always greener on the other side, it's undeniable that there are more choices compared to the past, and peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 09:08 AM
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I believe the change is due to a shift in generational attitudes, as I mentioned earlier. More people today are expressing that they're not looking to get married or even enter into a relationship, which is a significant change from the past. Many now only pursue relationships if it's convenient for them or they have genuine interest. Additionally, there are studies that suggest that single women are often happier than married women, so what if that is also a factor in them not settling? Marryin…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 08:54 AM
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No, at the very start I said that there are different reason why the percentage of men is single and one of the reason would include them not being attractive, and women not wanting to settle with them. You’ve asked me how I feel about the men I see on a daily, which I’ve told you are mostly by the city centre and there are a few who are good looking, some are decent and others could do with a bit of improvement. But even based on that information, that doesn’t mean I would date them. I’ve never…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 08:37 AM
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If I was to be honest, I would probably find a smaller section of men attractive enough to date, and that’s based on my preferences. But I don’t necessarily like a lot of people either way. But that doesn’t necessarily answer your question because I can’t speak for a large portion of men or women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 08:04 AM
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There are attractive men, and there are attractive women. There are unattractive men, and there are unattractive women. If you see someone on the street, you’ll be able to tell if they’re attractive or unattractive instantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 07:46 AM
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Unfortunately, your understanding is incorrect. I specifically mentioned the type of people I see and where I encounter them. Additionally, I clarified that I don't use dating apps and have never used them for dating, so that aspect isn't relevant to me. The number of people I notice daily doesn't represent all men. I also stated that I can't speak for other women regarding looks or dating preferences. Therefore, the stats are still valid. Even on dating apps, less attractive individuals are oft…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 07:43 AM
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Improving yourself might help sometimes but it won’t help everyone. The advice isn’t ill intended but someone cannot help you to be more attractive to the dating market
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 07:26 AM
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I think it depends on the person, they’re not always as interested in you as they claim or they are very laid back, so they seem like they’re not interested in you. I think that if there’s confusion, it’s best to leave if you can’t handle it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 04:34 PM
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This is something a lot of girls have experienced, to be fair. Mom making excuses for their son, yet the daughters get a hard time
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 08:39 AM
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In my experience, mothers often take a keen interest in their sons' lives, regardless of whether the sons listen. Their advice typically includes avoiding certain types of women, not having children with specific partners, building a career, finding a job, and not allowing women to disrespect them. If a boy is particularly attached to his mother, this influence can be even stronger. For daughters, the advice often centers around not embarrassing themselves by getting pregnant or raped, as these …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 08:24 AM
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Yes, there’s definitely a good number of decent looking guys, at least at the time I was there. Of course there might be a need to increase the location to get more options, which is one good thing about apps. But I can’t talk for everyone so I can’t say the vast majority of the men meet women’s minimum looks standard. I didn’t really go with dating in my mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 02:38 PM
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I don't use dating apps and likely never will. I prefer meeting people organically. While I might consider using the apps for friendship, I find that people there aren't always friendly. I tried a dating app once during the pandemic, not for dating but for social interaction, based on a recommendation. So, my experience might not be up-to-date. I noticed that conventionally attractive people are rare on these platforms (1.5/5). When they are, they tend to be unresponsive, possibly due to being o…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 01:13 PM
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Of course, everyone's perspective will vary, but I'm speaking from my experience in the city center, where I spend most of my time. The percentages can definitely change depending on your location. Based on what I observe, I'd say yes, but many of them are already paired up with their good match. However, this only reflects some of the people in the city center and doesn't account for other locations as well, where the percentages and quality of the men might be lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 12:14 PM
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In my age range (20-30), it's a bit challenging to generalize because most of the people I encounter in the city center are working professionals, many of whom are older than me. If I had to estimate, I'd say around 30% (1.5 out of 5) are conventionally attractive, 50% (2.5 out of 5) are decent, and 10% (0.5 out of 5) are not very attractive or could put in more effort. This varies depending on the location, of course which I might find myself in, but I spend most of time at work or working from…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 10:55 AM
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Yes, of course. While some people are conventionally attractive, that doesn't mean others aren't attractive in their own ways. There are many who are quite decent-looking, while others might struggle more because their looks aren't as appealing, which is why I said that money can sometimes help in such cases. There are always exceptions to the rule, and these exceptions often aren't highlighted because people tend to be more interested in conventionally attractive individuals. Everyone wants to …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 10:04 AM
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That's not untrue; I've mentioned before that some people are considered more attractive than others, which is natural. However, certain traits may be more appealing to some individuals than to their friends or others around them. Attractiveness can be influenced by location, and the people you associate with might alter your perception of it. For me, it’s a bit different. There's more to it than just appearance; personality is equally important, and they go hand in hand. Someone who has somethi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 08:10 AM
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They're not likely to date you solely because you're a good person; often, they prefer someone who shares their faith. In the Christian community, it's common for women to seek men who are believers, as reinforced by passages like 2 Corinthians 6:14-16. However, the scarcity of men in churches can sometimes lead women to either wait for a long time or settle for someone outside their faith, but they can regret that decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 06:40 PM
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I wouldn’t recommend places like Colombia for dating
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 05:43 PM
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What sort of successes have you experienced?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 04:45 PM
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I was going to say that certain things apply only to some groups of people, monitories might have a harder time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 03:58 PM
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I think that can be part true but also some people just want to relax in certain spaces they’re not necessarily looking to get hit on.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 03:14 PM
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To be fair some people date but they don’t necessarily say it out loud. Especially in the workplace, like your colleagues are not necessarily your friends 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 03:06 PM
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I was going to say the same thing, I’ve been to work dinner parties and usually people come on their own but pair up with specific colleagues. But could be different work cultures
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 03:05 PM
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Putting yourself out there is a start, it’s not a bad advice people can give you. You won’t find a job sitting at home on your couch, there has to be some action you take. The outcome will depend on the person, but usually it’s not the advice that’s wrong there.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 03:02 PM
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Rating men on attractiveness? Or something else? Attractiveness is subjective and varies from person to person. Just because men rated 50% of women below average doesn't mean much without knowing what influenced those ratings. Moreover, it doesn't necessarily mean they wouldn't consider dating them. Tinder, as I've mentioned, is heavily influenced by looks. Most people don't even read the bio, which is why key information is often highlighted and users can filter based on these criteria. This al…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 02:27 PM
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Since this is a hypothetical and fictional question, there's no definitive right or wrong answer. However, if given the option, I believe many people would choose to be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 02:13 PM
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I share the same sentiment, and don’t hate humans either. Just like the alone time
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 07:29 AM
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To be honest, people need to realise that the obsession women talk about is often just a mild consideration or attentiveness within the relationship. However, they aren’t referring to the kind of obsession where a partner can't function outside of the relationship, insists on spending all their time together, and gets upset when texts aren’t immediately returned. There needs to be a balance. People may not like to admit it, but others can sense when you're too desperate, especially in dating. Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 07:33 PM
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Honestly, the stories I hear from my women friends clearly show that some men are truly desperate for various reasons, which might include not having many options. This desperation is evident on dating apps as well, where someone might get a match and then act as if they’ve been starved of genuine conversation. I believe people prefer to date someone who doesn’t isn’t just settling because they have no other options and who has a fulfilling life outside of the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 07:19 PM
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When people talk about "smelling" desperation, it doesn’t always refer to the literal sense of smell. Instead, it means they can perceive someone’s desperation through their actions. While not everyone does this, unfortunately, some people do. For example, repeatedly asking for a phone number and acting as though not getting it would be devastating. It’s important to have self-respect. If someone isn’t interested, it’s best to move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 07:12 PM
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Boom, they complicate it but that’s just how it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 06:56 PM
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I did not imply that you’re hating on anything. If you recall, we were having a discussion about the difference between hating and venting before you started throwing insults and tantrums. I mentioned that you clearly have issues to address and suggested that you learn to proofread, which you seem not to have done. You turned the conversation into something about yourself, playing the victim as usual, but that’s your parents’ problem, not mine princess. When you’re capable of engaging in adult d…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 03:06 PM
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Well said. Balance is crucial in a relationship. Many people struggle with breakups and often fall into a cycle of hate and resentment because they depend too much on their partner for happiness. While it's not inherently bad to rely on someone, it's essential to know how to function independently.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 10:12 AM
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Yes, you clearly need help. Good luck getting it from Reddit 🤦‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 09:06 PM
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Why do you think they are seeking someone who matches their lifestyle, social class, or salary? Do you think it's just for fun?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 06:05 PM
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I understand why you’re reacting this way based on your writing. The internet isn't the best place to solve personal issues like depression. If you don't have someone nearby who can genuinely help, it's important to seek professional medical intervention if things get bad. Talk to a professional or someone you trust who can guide you. The internet can be toxic, and even influencers take breaks because of it. Misunderstandings can easily happen, especially if you struggle to express your feelings…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 08:09 AM
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Yes, financial stability can be achieved whether your partner earns more than you or the same amount. A financially stable partner is more likely to consider marriage compared to someone who cannot afford it. This can make it easier for women to plan for children, possibly taking a few years off work. Jordan Peterson discussed in a video that it is in a woman's best interest to find a financially stable man, especially if she plans to have children and I couldn’t agree more. There is evidence on…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 10:53 PM
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This topic reminds me of how things have changed over the years. For example, the Amanda Todd suicide story which was caused by something that wouldn’t matter as much nowadays. https://www.amandatoddlegacy.org/amandas-story.html
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 10:31 PM
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If you have to change your standards for fear of what people would say, you never truly had standards. Someone cannot physically force you to date what you don’t want.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 05:28 PM
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You lost me at the "ducking dumb" 🦆🤣 sorry! If you bottle up your emotions or haven't learned how to understand them, turning to the internet for help isn't the best idea. It's better to talk to the right people in your circle who can offer more meaningful support. Online advice and support are limited; people can't fix your dating life for you. This isn't about bashing anyone. If you're spewing hate, then what else should it be called? Love? Your last point is confusing; you're agreeing that so…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 05:14 PM
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Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 04:56 PM
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Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 04:55 PM
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Dating apps shouldn’t be banned, people should stop using it once they don’t work for them. Dating apps help people that are wanted, but will basically hide you if you’re not.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 04:55 PM
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Rewarded by who?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 04:39 PM
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I had the same thought, especially considering he hasn't kissed anyone. If he's not interested, that would explain why he hasn't been with any of the girls. However, this question is unnecessary since nothing is happening in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 04:12 PM
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I mentioned that the goal is to express feelings, though individual expectations may vary. Typically, you’ll receive support, advice, or simply a chance to let your emotions out. While we can agree to disagree, some people aren't genuinely venting. Instead, they've bottled up their emotions, resulting in unjustified anger. They're not looking to express their feelings but have built a defensive wall that prevents them from accepting genuine support, even if it's offered. When it comes to dating,…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 03:55 PM
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Financial stability is achievable even if you find a partner who matches or exceeds your financial status. People generally prefer someone who can meet them at their level or is doing better, as this provides greater financial security. It's logical to choose a partner who is financially stable, especially if they themselves are stable. Although poorer women do get married, it is less common than before due to their limited options. They often aspire to find partners who are financially better o…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 07:08 PM
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Earnings often determine whether individuals are ready to settle down earlier. This is especially important for women planning to start a family, as conceiving can be easier at a younger age. Some women’s goals depend on their circumstances. While poor women can still get married, they often seek partners who are better off. Generally, people look for partners who are better than themselves. For example, being unattractive doesn't exclude you from liking attractive people. Marriage and relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 06:39 PM
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I don't think changing the standards would significantly impact the dating scene, as there would still be people left out. Some women still date men without financial resources, especially if they can support themselves financially. It's understandable why some women seek partners who match them financially, as not all men are comfortable with women earning more. This is evident from interviews where men question why women date if they are financially self-sufficient. Marriage and relationships …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 03:41 PM
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We're going in circles here. I've already agreed that having a partner who can provide for his family is an advantage. That's not in dispute. The real issue is that women won't have children with someone they don't like; it just doesn't make sense. The ideal scenario is finding someone who meets your criteria and can also provide—that's hitting the jackpot. As I mentioned before, attractiveness is important, but you also need to have something going on in your life. Attractiveness is inherent, w…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 01:56 PM
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No, some women don’t return to work as early, especially if they have financial support. Some never return, instead seeking opportunities online to work from home. If a woman wants to stay home and care for her children, she will likely date different types of people than a career woman who plans to return to work after maternity leave. Career women often face judgment for prioritizing work over family. Your life choices depend on your circumstances at the time. Women acknowledge that dating som…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 01:36 PM
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While it's true that many women return to work after maternity leave, some have to go back even earlier due to unsustainable maternity pay. Returning to work can also be a choice, as staying out of the workforce for too long can have negative consequences. Being a stay-at-home parent is challenging unless you have help. If most people could, they would get a nanny to help out, which I’ve discovered that’s some people do. There are women who choose to have children on their own, showing that they…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 01:10 PM
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It's not about sugar-coating; some uncomfortable truths are often brushed aside because it's easier to ignore them. Returning to work after having a child is becoming increasingly common among women nowadays. However, it's not without its challenges, as the effects of pregnancy can vary widely among individuals. Some may find it difficult to maintain the same level of work during pregnancy, necessitating more breaks. I was referring to your point about women being breadwinners and stay-at-home m…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 12:07 PM
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It's not about sugar-coating; some uncomfortable truths are often brushed aside because it's easier to ignore them. Returning to work after having a child is becoming increasingly common among women nowadays. However, it's not without its challenges, as the effects of pregnancy can vary widely among individuals. Some may find it difficult to maintain the same level of work during pregnancy, necessitating more breaks. I was referring to your point about women being breadwinners and stay-at-home m…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 12:05 PM
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It's not about sugar-coating; some uncomfortable truths are often brushed aside because it's easier to ignore them. Returning to work after having a child is becoming increasingly common among women nowadays. However, it's not without its challenges, as the effects of pregnancy can vary widely among individuals. Some may find it difficult to maintain the same level of work during pregnancy, necessitating more breaks. Regarding your point about women as breadwinners and stay-at-home moms, I never…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 12:05 PM
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It's not about sugar-coating; some uncomfortable truths are often brushed aside because it's easier to ignore them. Returning to work after having a child is becoming increasingly common among women nowadays. However, it's not without its challenges, as the effects of pregnancy can vary widely among individuals. Some may find it difficult to maintain the same level of work during pregnancy, necessitating more breaks. Regarding your point about women as breadwinners and stay-at-home moms, I never…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 12:04 PM
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I agree, some people find themselves in situations where they settle early, whether they're financially stable or not. However, this doesn't mean they can't improve their circumstances later on. Those who are actively dating often prefer not to wait years to achieve stability but instead collaborate where possible. Even when settling, people tend to seek partners they genuinely like, often choosing those they find attractive. For those aspiring to motherhood, it's essential to seek partners who …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 11:41 AM
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It's becoming more common for people today to partner with individuals who may not own a house or have financial stability. Some even rely on benefits or child support. However, attractiveness can play a significant role in these decisions. In cases where a woman has the option of choosing between two attractive men, one financially stable and the other not, she may lean towards the financially stable one, especially if she's considering starting a family soon and lacks financial security hersel…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 10:44 AM
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I understand and agree with your point, what I didn’t agree with is that it improves your chances of finding a relationship. Consider this: those guys in that percentage likely made efforts to approach women, but without success. The issue may not be their efforts, but rather that they're not seen as desirable or attractive by the current dating market. Times have changed, and what led to dating success in the past might not hold true today. Previously, you might have been competing in a smaller…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 10:17 AM
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While financial stability can facilitate earlier marriage for men in relationships, it's not a guarantee of finding one. The real issue lies in getting into a relationship in the first place. You're circling back to the same point: how can someone start a family if they're not even noticed in the dating pool? Dating dynamics have shifted, influenced by platforms like dating apps and social media. Attractiveness still plays a significant role, alongside financial stability, especially for those s…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 09:57 AM
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In recent years, especially after the pandemic, there's been a significant increase in various aspects. The housing market experienced sudden shifts, prompting many to rush into purchases. Additionally, with rising gas and electricity prices due to the war, uncertainty takes over, particularly in the UK where heating is essential for most part of the year. Those who previously struggled may find it even harder now. Especially in the UK where some people primarily depend on benefits, even some co…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 09:23 AM
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Of course, earning more money generally increases your purchasing power. However, you don't necessarily need a six-figure salary; around £50,000 can still afford you a good house, although it depends on your location. Numerous factors influence purchasing power, with location being a significant one. For instance, someone living abroad (e.g. Thailand) on an average UK salary, can afford a higher standard of living compared to locals due to differences in cost of living. Raising the children at h…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 08:19 AM
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When you vent to someone or to a group, the goal is usually to express your feelings about a situation and hopefully receive support and advice to help resolve or calm down the situation. In contrast, when you express hate, your intention isn’t to seek support but rather to initiate conflict and use the opportunity to criticise the situation or the people involved. The person's attitude often reveals their true intention. This often happens when someone asks for advice or poses a question about …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 07:57 AM
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The difference between venting and hating can be easily discerned by observing the person's attitude, which typically reveals their intention.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 07:35 AM
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If the standards had not changed, more people would have access to relationships, but that’s not the reality today. While I agree that women are usually told to search for a compatible partner, it's also understandable because the woman’s financial stability can be a dealbreaker for some. Nowadays, one salary often isn't sufficient to support a household, especially if one partner isn't working. Consequently, financial strain can cause significant problems in relationships, as a single income ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 07:25 AM
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Someone earning at least £100,000 a year and working within a company will take home just under £6,000 a month. This amount is sufficient not only to afford a good house but also to maintain and run it. It also allows for savings, including setting aside money for children’s future needs. While it doesn't eliminate the need to budget carefully, it can provide a degree of financial security if wise choices are made. However, not everyone will choose to have children, as returning to work after ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 07:18 AM
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Certainly! Here's a revised version: "Yes, that's true, but I believe people have never truly had complete freedom. While times have changed, only a few people get to do what they love every day. Most are just getting by with the means and opportunities available. We spend most of our week working and only get to enjoy a small part of it. Some people turn side hustles into main gigs if they take off, but it's all about taking risks. Dating and marriage are complex topics. It's a nice aspiration,…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 03:27 PM
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Earning a six-figure income puts you ahead of most people, as the average person doesn't reach that level of income, and your lifestyle likely reflects that. This financial status may grant you greater access to social circles, and if you present yourself well, dating could be easier too. Times have changed significantly compared to 20 years ago when marriage and starting a family were common aspirations. While finances still play a role, some individuals today are still marrying or having child…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 01:49 PM
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To be considered a desirable catch, you must possess more than what the average person has, especially compared to someone earning the minimum wage. This is being realistic. Additionally, if you're handsome, you have an advantage, as you may not need to focus as much on having substantial wealth. £2,000 was a good salary years ago, but now it’ doesn’t cover much. That’s how things change. Individuals prefer not to settle down with individuals they don't desire, and others may not desire them eit…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 11:35 AM
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Dating apps are heavily influenced by looks before anything else. That’s exactly the reason why some people give up on them. No matter how much money you pay, you can’t change yourself. If you’ve got money you can pay your way into dating, but that’s if you’ve got a substantial amount of money. Nowadays everyone makes money, or have some sort of income, that doesn’t make people special anymore compared to years ago. Because there have been changes, things have changed. People are more honest and…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 11:11 AM
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No, it’s not easier to get into a relationship because you’re able to support a wife and kids. It might be good if you’re able to get into a relationship in the first place, which some people still struggle with. I would agree with your argument if most of the men that are single were financially unstable, but the percentage include people with jobs but dating is not working for them. Once people realise that other factors affect dating, maybe they’ll understand why it doesn’t work for them. Bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 10:13 AM
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Certainly! Here's a revised version: "No, it's not a given. Even if you have financial stability, being desirable to date matters just as much. Living in a shared house doesn't necessarily indicate financial struggle. It's a smart way to save money unless you're living with parents or plan to have your own place later. Spending excessively on rent doesn't make sense unless you're comfortable with long-term renting. Dating norms have shifted. Previously, people were eager to find partners, but no…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 09:33 AM
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No, being employed doesn't guarantee finding a relationship, as I mentioned earlier. The 60% of single men you mentioned might be single for different reasons, which might not include unemployment. Having a job is usually about survival unless you’re in a privileged position. Because dating has changed and not everyone is looking to settle down. Another reason is people have more options nowadays, and some people will be left out. This probably was happening before to some men and women, but now…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 09:15 AM
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It's completely normal to feel sad when something doesn't work out for you. However, how can you justify getting angry or hating others because of dating difficulties? Dating is something you participate in without any guarantee of success. When you become so angry at everyone, it makes navigating relationships difficult. Why do you think others will have the answers to your situation? They probably don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 07:53 AM
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How do you improve your financial situation? Start by seeking financial advice and implementing it. A good first step is securing employment, and having some side hustles can be even more beneficial. People aren't necessarily less attractive now, but someone who’s attractive will not have a hard time attracting people. I'm speaking from my experience living in the UK; it may be different elsewhere. Although it depends on how you manage your finances, a lot of people tend to go over budget and no…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 07:47 AM
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I believe both can be true: the quality or expectations of men might have shifted somewhat, but women have also gained more opportunities to achieve their own success, which has led to a change in their standards. We can't really rely on past norms because most people I know have changed their approach even if they got married years ago. Some have realised they don't actually want to get married, or at least want to pursue what they truly desire instead of settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 07:24 AM
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I agree. With the recent changes, people are more open to pursuing what they truly want. In the past, it seemed like everyone focused solely on having a family and a house. Now, I see more people considering their futures in broader terms. Why do you want to get married? Do you genuinely want a family, or are you trying to meet societal expectations? A family can be wonderful, but that decision should be personal. However, the new system and current conditions aren't making it easy for some peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 06:52 AM
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That’s unfair on the children, and it also contributes to the “children don’t need a father” narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 09:00 PM
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Although no one wants to think about it, your partner can literally be gone one day and you’re left on your own. I think if your children requires medical help then you need to have that information at hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 04:14 PM
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Damn 🤣 double it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 04:12 PM
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To be honest, it all depends on the individual and what they want from life. Some people don’t aspire to work long hours and prefer to live freely. For example, those who travel and work locally in exchange for pocket money, board, and food. They aren’t focused on making a substantial income but rather on experiencing life differently. In contrast, someone looking to start a family might prioritise earning a good living from their job. There are also those who live comfortably with their job bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 03:56 PM
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If the evidence was suggesting that 60% of single men are facing financial struggles, then the logical solution would be for them to improve their financial situation. However, are we overlooking the possibility that some of them may not be struggling financially but rather lack attractiveness? While money holds importance in relationships, attractiveness often takes precedence. Just because your parents were desired partners doesn't guarantee the same for you. Moreover, the dating world has cha…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 01:50 PM
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No, I am talking about evidence that the 60% of the single men are struggling financially, which is the reason they are single. I am not saying women are not attracted or want to date someone with resources, I am saying that some people are not “wanted” in the dating market which is the reason they struggle. If you’re single, working 40/hrs even with the National minimum wage, you can still get a decent life. Of course if you get paid above the NMW you have more opportunities to do more. If you’…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 01:21 PM
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You've raised a question about the disparity in the number of single men, and I've clearly outlined that some may struggle to find potential partners, possibly due to various factors, including not being seen as desirable options. Unless there's evidence indicating financial struggles, the argument suggesting otherwise lacks merit. In today's society, it's not uncommon to find both men and women in relationships where both partners work to sustain their livelihoods. This represents a shift from …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 12:53 PM
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So based on what I wrote earlier, what’s the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 12:31 PM
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How would you explain it then? If there are less people wanting to date, that the people find attractive, who would they be dating? More challenging for people that are looking to date, and probably for people that want to date within their city/town. Although there are people that are in long distance relationships, not everyone is comfortable with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 12:08 PM
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The increase in the number of people not dating can be attributed to various factors, including a decrease in the frequency of dating and a reluctance to settle down. Attractiveness plays a significant role in generating interest; those who are considered handsome or pretty often receive more attention due to their appearance. Similarly, wealth can also attract interest, as people are drawn to financial security and future prospects. While circumstances can change, individuals tend to focus on t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 12:03 PM
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There will be more record on people being single nowadays because not everyone is dating as much as before. Also, being single is not seen as bad as years ago when people were pushed to get into relationships or marriage. There are people making good money and still single. As said before if you’re willing to pay for it, you might be able to pay your way in but it’s not guaranteed either way. You’ll find there are people that have to do none of that. They’re just sought after in the dating world…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 11:49 AM
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Why do you assume I won’t like the comparison? 😅 I always say this, but if you’ve got to pay your way into an “interview”, you are most likely wasting your time. The same happens with dating apps, you pay money to get more chances but that’s when you have to assess if it’s working for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 11:33 AM
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I don’t think people take into consideration that dating has changed, and although I get the financial aspect, there are people that can’t get dates at all. If the financial aspect was the only constraint, a lot of people wouldn’t be in relationships. It’s a hard pill to swallow but if you’re not getting dates, it’s likely you’re not attractive in the dating world. Getting money might be able to help you attract someone, but it’s a tough one. I agree, she has different options which includes: Da…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 11:28 AM
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Yes, it can be a factor although you don’t always get that much luck in dating compared to getting a job. But both have changed in the last few years
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 11:06 AM
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I somewhat agree with the statement, but I can’t fully agree because it doesn’t take into consideration that dating has also changed. Relationships are still very much possible, although some people are less likely to start a family as early. The problem is dating is not what it used to be years ago. People are comfortable staying single, and marriage is not a priority for everyone. True, she might not want to date a guy that doesn’t but there are some that do. As long as they have a meet up pla…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 11:05 AM
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Although I agree there are still some expectations regarding getting your own place, I also think that modern dating have also changed. She might have her own place or they both move in together quickly than before, which it’s not uncommon nowadays. I’ve noticed more couples putting down a deposit and moving in together. I don’t think that’s the main problem, some people are just not “dating material”. People dont want to date them. There are people that own houses but are single and have no dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 10:45 AM
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Absolutely, I agree with your initial point. But despite the economic challenges, there are still individuals purchasing or renting homes and leading fulfilling lives. In any society, there will always be those who are privileged and those who face disadvantages. In today's world, some individuals may easily find romantic partners while others may struggle or “come with something”. The cost of raising children can be significant, and with technology, competition is more intense across various sp…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 10:30 AM
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I think the problem is not about sharing the feelings, the problem is the expectation. Of course when dating we are all expecting to have some success, but if that doesn’t happen, then what?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 10:12 AM
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Comparing dating to job hunting is tricky. While finding a job is often about survival and offers multiple opportunities, dating is less predictable and options may be limited. Sometimes, luck can play a significant role in securing a job, unlike in dating where outcomes can be more uncertain.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 10:08 AM
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That’s true, unfortunately some people are not looking for advices but rather want people to agree with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 07:44 AM
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How do you think it’s prejudiced? If someone ask you the question and you choose the bear or solitude, why would it matter? Isn’t that your choice? What if you like bears (or animals) better than humans? Because it doesn’t have to be misandry or misogyny. You are allowed to choose that if you wanted, and why get angry at a fictional scenario? I’ve never opted in the conversation, I usually just laugh at the memes and people that take it seriously, because realistically it’s not that deep. We don…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 08:34 PM
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Everyone's entitled to their opinion, even if it involves choosing the bear. The issue lies not in the question itself, but in how people interpret it. Regardless of the animal chosen or choices, there would still be criticism. It's just the way things are. Even if staying alone was the alternative, people would find a reason to be offended by others' opinions and life choices. Nowadays, it's common for people to let others' choices affect them and get emotional about it. I'm choosing not to eng…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 06:26 PM
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Yes, although the type of clout will depend on the type of athletes that you are. But also attractiveness can definitely help there and skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 05:36 PM
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People are entitled to their opinion, but realistically, you shouldn't alter your responses just because someone might take offense or become emotional about it. For instance, if someone expresses a preference to be alone in the woods, does it automatically mean they hate people? That would probably be my answer. It's a hypothetical scenario, and people can respond as they see fit. If some interpret it as a form of animosity, that's their perspective to manage. While I advocate for more open con…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 05:33 PM
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No, someone saying they prefer the bear doesn’t necessarily equate to hating men or women, just as it wouldn't if the question was thrown the other way around. It’s acceptable to have a preference. The issue arises when someone uses it to shit on a gender, which is what people should focus on addressing if they wanted to have real discussions. Constructing entire conversations and researches around an animal (bear) based on a fictional question seems illogical to me. To me that’s not a real life…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 04:38 PM
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If you’ve seen my comment above, I’ve said that any case of man-hate should be addressed, but people are literally talking and researching bears and that baffles me. Sorry but I don’t think people realise how it makes them look crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 04:28 PM
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I don’t think it means someone is unfuckable, you can still be a great person. It’s a way to reject someone softly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 10:50 AM
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No, men and women should continue to talk about real life situations. Don’t be a cry baby, it’s not that deep.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 09:55 AM
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It does work because people are somewhat attracted to clout, and imagine dating someone who has a bit of status. Athletes will always have more options especially if they are footballers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 08:46 AM
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Progress can take time to be fair, some people don’t have patience and determination. Someone can play games and still be active, the choice is theirs. If you decide to prioritise playing games all day, you’ll reap the benefits or the lack of them. People are quick to give up, and that can be for different reasons which includes the victim mindset. Thinking you can’t get better than what you currently are. If you have the opportunity to change yourself, with whatever tools you’ve got, then you s…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 10:42 PM
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I am talking about dropping the argument in general, it’s getting boring and repetitive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 07:42 PM
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I didn’t take it seriously when I first saw this, but people are out here studying bears for Gods sake 😵‍💫
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 06:16 PM
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Another cry baby, next.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 06:14 PM
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That was fun 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 04:09 PM
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Thanks Father for being able to confess my sins 🙏
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 03:50 PM
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That’s true, if you have a good personality, then clout might help you step into dating but you’ll be able to form genuine relationships and friendships. But it’s very important to be able to tell when people are there for the money, and don’t be too naive and get taken advantage of. This is the case when people get rich unexpectedly, for example from inheritance, and suddenly find a lot of friends
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 03:49 PM
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I think there’s a reason why some guys fail to improve or reach their full potential, and why for others it is a bit easier. Height cannot be changed, hair can be fixed but if you’re balding it requires surgery…but a lot has to do with patience.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 03:42 PM
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You don’t have to convince them. They don’t care
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 03:37 PM
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Soft guy era, that sounds like paradise. But why waste time on this topic ?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 03:27 PM
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I agree, money can definitely open a lot of doors for improvement although there are things you can’t change. That’s the reason why rich people “pay” for your time, especially if they are interested in you. You can only improve your looks when there’s area for improvements, which is why I agree with “you’re not ugly, you’re broke”. I don’t think it applies to everyone but I think some people would do well with a bit of money in their hands. Well, someone who’s attractive in her eyes would always…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 03:25 PM
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I definitely agree, which is why I call them hypocrites. You believe in something but you’re doing the opposite while telling people to keep doing what you can’t do publicly. That’s why people need to be careful if taking advices from people on the internet
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 03:14 PM
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You can pull women with clout, but the problem is how many can you pull if you didn’t have the clout, the money or people didn’t know who you are? What I am saying is that if you’ve got looks, people are more likely to fall for you. You probably don’t have to put much effort in. But if you go by clout or money, that need to be shown first for people to consider you. Also, the women will be less likely to stay if you were to lose all that. Unless the money improved your looks as well
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 03:12 PM
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There was a reason behind the question, but I don’t think it was that serious. However, I agree with you that addressing misandry is important. But focusing so much on studying bears seems rather odd, doesn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 03:08 PM
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If we have come to this conclusion, why is this still discussed?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 03:02 PM
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Found the emotional baby
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 03:01 PM
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It might look like that on the internet but a lot of people are hypocrites. They probably don’t follow what they claim to believe in
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 03:00 PM
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What are the attractive attributes that can be compensated for? Money can definitely be used to improve looks, but it’s heavily dependent on the starting point. Some people can be more attractive with money, while others compensate with money and that’s it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 02:59 PM
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Without the status and the money, you would be a nobody if you’re ugly. If you’re attractive, that would be a large advantage. Even with money, people are not attracted to you but to the money and the status. They’ll try their best to get clout off you. You’re making your life easier by essentially “paying” for people to be in your life, but once that’s gone then what ?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 02:55 PM
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I think everyone will have a different responses but the fact that we are still talking about it now, baffles me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 02:51 PM
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It’s not that deep. It’s a question and they’ve answered based on what they feel. I don’t see the reason why people are getting worked up about.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 02:50 PM
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To be honest, it’s an individual thing. Some men are more emotional but less logical, and women viceversa
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 02:32 PM
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Yes, I think attractiveness can never be taken out of the question to be fair. Because that’s what people will see first, even before the personality. My point is what someone finds attractive can differ depending on certain things, and one thing could also include where you live. My first point is that with height, it’s very difficult unless there’s something unique that might make it worth it. But unfortunately most times someone else has all the qualities but the heights attractiveness as wel…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 01:35 PM
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Yes, which is why I included attractiveness because that definitely is the biggest factor but I also believe what someone find attractive is subjective
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 01:18 PM
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Can we actually stop with the bear topic? Are you guys not tired?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 01:16 PM
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There are few that can help which include confidence, empathy, honesty, loyalty, kindness, attractiveness etc. Although I agree not everyone has those qualities, but I think that there are few that are shared across the board. So when someone is met with different potential suitors, the choice usually would be based on qualities, looks and probably their current market position.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 01:10 PM
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That's true, but I always consider that many others possess qualities that attract people. To make it work effectively, there must be something distinctive about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 01:02 PM
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Attraction is still very much important. If you’re making money that’s good, you can compensate the attraction but without that, there are better competitors out there
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 12:58 PM
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Honestly, the most genuine attraction would be based on physical appearance because that’s what you see first. The status and money might not come into play straightaway, which is why there are separate dating apps for people with money. But status and money doesn’t make you attractive, the money is what’s attractive and people need access to it through you. Without that, you’re back to being a nobody.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 12:57 PM
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I’ve noticed some are short but they are attractive as well, which probably compensate
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 12:52 PM
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To be honest, height can either increase or reduce your chances. Especially thinking about the fact that we usually compete with other people, regardless if we are aware or not. I think there are other things that might help with attraction but I definitely agree that at least a 5’9 or over can help.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 12:51 PM
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The belief that there's a perfect match for everyone. Even in a group of straight individuals (e.g. 5 men and 5 women) not everyone would end up in a relationship. Only a few might pair off, while others may be content being single or the relationship may not last. The belief that dating advices are useless. While some find it beneficial for insights and experiences, it doesn't suit everyone's circumstances. In today's dating landscape, finding the right partner may take time, and there's no gua…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 12:42 PM
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Honestly, it’s really about selling yourself. Like in a job interview we probably not going to show our weaknesses, but we sell our strengths
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 12:29 PM
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It’s not usually free, it’s food you bought from a supermarket and can cook at home. But you can also spend more money to buy food you don’t have to cook, but that’s preference and depending on if you can afford to do so. The people that use that service either want to be discreet or don’t have choices to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 01:37 PM
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It’s not based on your league, sometimes there are different things that can affect attraction. Sometimes it’s better to try it out and see if it works. Don’t put your eggs in one basket and don’t get mad if it doesn’t work.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 08:58 AM
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That perspective seems far-fetched, to be honest. If someone is attractive, they likely wouldn't need to pay for sex, as their looks could attract potentials. The idea of "a lot of hot guys" might be overstated. Typically, if you're attractive, you don't struggle to find partners regularly; paying for sex usually comes into play if you're unable to find it otherwise or if you seek a unique experience. But the notion of paying for something readily available for free does seem crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 08:31 AM
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Yes, the person felt bad and would talk about it for months and months. I remember feeling bad about it but promising myself that I would not date unless I was sure about the person. I think the consequences of playing with someone’s heart is not worth it at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 08:27 AM
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Many people don't share when they pay or initiate a date, it's not common practice for most, though a minority might. We tend to assume it’s the guy, but when something goes wrong you’ll notice they wanted to make it look like that. These women tend to share more about this in private dating groups. In my own observations, I've noticed this happening more frequently, including women covering most expenses in relationships. However, they don’t do that for everyone, so some might not be aware of i…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 08:25 AM
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They are although not to a large pool of people. When I refer to social media, I am not necessarily talking about them showcasing this. They usually don’t broadcast this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 05:13 PM
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It’s not oppression, as you cannot force anyone outside of yourself to give you something, even something basic as love. I think the only people that are supposed to give you love and care are your parents, and when they don’t, that’s called neglect. But I can also understand from their point of view it might feel like an unjust treatment. But they are the only ones that can free themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 01:05 PM
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That’s my point, the answer they’ve provided didn’t cover the main question nor the other person’s answer. It was just a not very clever way to move way from the actual question.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 12:55 PM
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I believe it varies depending on where you are in life. Sometimes, love can happen regardless of whether you have your life together or not. People may not always realise that dating and being in a relationship require time and sometimes money. If you're still working on yourself or striving for self-improvement, you might not be able to dedicate enough time to your partner. There may be internal struggles with feeling inadequate, and relationships can either empower or hinder you. Personally, I…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 11:14 AM
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I'm exploring the definition further: someone who's promiscuous might also be labelled a prostitute or a slut. However, if someone is being paid for their services, the term might not carry as much weight. Traditionally, promiscuity has been defined as engaging in sexual activities with multiple partners without commitment. Loneliness can indeed drive someone to seek paid companionship, but I also believe sexual frustration can take its toll, especially in today's era where sex is readily access…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 11:03 AM
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Close minded how? OP asked a question and the person brought an answer that doesn’t even touch the question or the response.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 10:55 AM
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I think the misunderstanding arises from the difference in communicating wants and needs. The term "sex" can include different needs and wants: there are those who engage in it solely to satisfy a physical need, others who seek to address both physical and emotional needs, and some who view it as a duty to someone. Paying for sex often comes into play when other people are not willing to engage in it otherwise. When expressing your desires, it's important to articulate them clearly to ensure you…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 10:14 AM
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I don’t blame you, you’re very much in your rights to not date someone that does.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 09:43 AM
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Thank you! The guy might be young, so I can understand why he might feel that way, or he could be trying to justify his perspective because the topic hits close to home. I don’t see how she is a hypocrite when she never discussed anything about promiscuity. It's ironic that promiscuity is being brought up when sex work inherently involves promiscuity. You might choose not to date a promiscuous person, but you’re still engaging in sexual activity with them. It sounds strange to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 09:42 AM
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Read the question, stop making it about something else. Is everything okay at home? You’re not a kid, pull yourself together. We are discussing men who have been advised to follow escorts. And the question asks women whether or not they would date knowing that information.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 09:32 AM
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When assessing someone who has slept with multiple people, this usually is based on the quantity. When assessing someone who has slept with sex workers, usually is based on the quality. And there could be concern regarding hygiene, motives and someone having sex only if they pay for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 09:29 AM
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The point you've raised isn't pertinent to her statement. It seems like you're advocating a "tit for tat" mentality, akin to children arguing over petty matters. She'd only be hypocritical if she mentioned promiscuity in her statement, which she didn't. Hypocrisy would arise if someone who frequents escorts preaches about promiscuity but engages in activities with individuals labeled as promiscuous or with a higher number of partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 08:12 AM
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I'm describing someone who struggles to find dates or intimacy, perhaps never having been in a relationship. They're aware they might never find someone, which can be frustrating. Often, they express this as a lack of sexual experience, leading people to suggest hiring an escort or sex worker for companionship. While they may not become instantly attractive, this experience can provide them with some fulfillment, even if they don't progress to dating. So they wouldn’t even have to worry about be…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 08:06 AM
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She made it clear she wouldn't date someone who had been with sex workers, but did she disclose her own past experiences? And did she express concerns about the number of partners? Your argument, taken out of context, tries to justify something while highlighting her lack of hypocrisy. Bringing up promiscuity in this context doesn't hold, considering sex workers often have multiple clients which would make her “partner” the hypocrite if she holds her to that standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 07:59 AM
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Well, you have the floor but she’s not hypocritical unless she is consuming the same services 🤦‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 07:51 AM
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Stay on topic dude. Unless she told you she has a past with sex worker herself but wouldn’t date someone that has, then don’t go create a different topic altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 07:48 AM
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She’s not hypocritical unless she was judging the number of people he has slept with, while she has a high number of people she has also slept with. Someone who pays for sex would be in a different category altogether. So your point still doesn’t apply.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 07:43 AM
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If the men have no prospect of dating, then I don’t think it would ever be an issue. But who knows? They might get lucky
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 07:35 AM
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The point you made didn’t make sense which is why she probably wouldn’t agree. She would be hypocritical if she herself was paying for sex, but don’t like when men pay for sex. Or if she consume sex worker services but hate when a man does. Promiscuity is a different topic
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 07:35 AM
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Yes, the understanding of need is what lacks here. Because anyone can give you sex when you pay for it but I hardly think it will be enough to fill the void.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 07:32 AM
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I agree, but that’s the reason why it’s important to be honest when discussing issues like that. Mentioning that you’ve never been in a relationship and you would want to experience that is better than focusing on the sex only. Because realistically, the sex can be bought if you can afford it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 07:31 AM
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I think the advice only get thrown at people with no prospects of dating. They usually get told to pay for sex if that’s what they’re looking for. But sometimes they want to add the intimacy so an escort is usually what people would advice them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 07:28 AM
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If you follow social media, you’ll notice that’s not as rare anymore. Although the people they’ll do that for might be a small pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 07:16 AM
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There are women that will actually invite men out on dates and even pay for it. They don’t necessarily do that with anyone and everyone, which is why some people will hardly see this happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 09:21 PM
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I think average people still get a chance, they might have to push a bit more than above average people but they can still get there. Someone who’s below average might have a hard time, although sometimes location can affect your dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 01:16 PM
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I don’t think is something people would know, unless you tell them? People cannot be discriminated against based on whether they are single or virgin, especially in the workplace where there are laws protecting and preventing discrimination. I do think there might be bias or sometimes where you might feel excluded in conversations if the rest is married for example, but it’s not that deep.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 08:03 PM
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If they did we wouldn’t have these type of discussions daily. Although I empathise with them, there’s not much wiggle room when it comes to dating nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 07:50 PM
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Then do you suggest them giving up altogether ? Because they won’t take that lightly
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 07:43 PM
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To be honest, from what I've observed growing up, some people who are labelled “promiscuous” have experienced sexual abuse in their past, not always from their parents but sometimes from trusted adults who behaved inappropriately when they were young. This early exposure to sex without proper boundaries usually leave them struggling for acceptance from the outside. Even if their parents are good people and are still together, they might still yearn for some sort of validation, almost as if they …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 07:18 PM
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If the dating pool was better, wouldn’t people be more willing to date?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 04:19 PM
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I think it can apply to both genders, but I also don’t think it applies to everyone in general. I think some people use it in the wrong context, and sometimes try to manipulate people into going with them because “I was nice to you”. I’ve noticed some men and women do the absolute most for someone and once the find out the person isn’t interested or is dating, they do a 360.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 03:58 PM
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You are paying to have sex, why waste time and not just get someone that’ll give it to you guaranteed? I think its not that hard to know when someone is paying a meal to have sex, they know you won’t commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 06:21 AM
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To be honest I do, I’ve done so in the past and I’ve been the person booking our holidays abroad as well. Last time we did a holiday, there were 13 of us and I didn’t get payment from everyone until probably months after the trip. If I do a birthday, I’ll pay for everyone attending. If I invite you to lunch, I don’t mind paying either.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 02:21 AM
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My first option would be staying alone, I think I would be okay for a while before getting bored or used to that lifestyle. My second option would be a bear, because there is still a small possibility that it would protect me if I am not a threat to it. https://youtube.com/shorts/p5L_PxbrYqE?si=HwUTOf4c8QjNBmqs My other option would be a group, don’t care about the gender as long as they know how to survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 10:51 PM
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You have a choice, and you exercised that. That’s good, other men and women also have a choice and they should be able to exercise that. Not everyone has an issue with paying, and that’s good for them
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 10:35 PM
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If you invite someone out, usually you pay for it. If you don’t want to pay, you let them know. They have a choice to accept or decline, the same you have a choice to invite them out or not. You need to be accountable for your actions
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 09:52 PM
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I think it depends from person to person, some women agree with some of the RP points but they might not agree with the attitude or “delusion” of the people following it. This could be due to the fact that the followers sort of behave and cope the same way (speaking, attitude etc). Also, you have to think that apart from the RP influencers that might look a bit decent and successful, the followers usually don’t conform to that standard. This might make a good amount of women to stay clear from t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 06:55 PM
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Who do you think give power to these women? While I appreciate the points you've raised, I'm unsure how they'd help dating and relationships. It's not possible to give people power and hope they’ll consider the “powerless”. Dating will always include people with more advantages (attractiveness, security, money etc.) whilst others either struggle or with some luck they settle with someone. However, beyond that, there's little room for change. Although it’s good to assess society, it’s also challe…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 06:24 PM
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To be honest, sexual assault or rape can bring about different outcomes for the victim, and one of them is hypersexuality. The problem is people will usually excuse one gender because it looks fun to sleep around, but punish the other because why do you sleep around so much. But that could be their way to cope with the assault. The other outcome could be someone that represses their feelings and sexuality, making it difficult to trust or date people. That might work for some people but if you’re…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 05:56 PM
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How would you assess society? Genuine question.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 05:29 PM
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I completely agree, but they constantly dwell on the same topic and it can be tough for everyone. Do you think it actually helps them? Most times they are lead to developing negative attitudes towards women and relationships, and just venting this to the air. When discussing difficulties in dating with friends, they will often offer advice based on their own experiences, which may not always be helpful. While comforting friends is important, it doesn't always change their perspective. Women supp…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 03:35 PM
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Definitely, they have an advantage when it comes to dating and sex. They don’t even have to ask for it, as people can just offer it to them on a plate. Even in the past people realised how powerful it is to be seen as attractive. Halo Effect is also real
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 03:21 PM
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Trust me, the amount of homeless people I have found getting action is crazy 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 03:18 PM
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People can be empathetic, but people won’t have an answer on why women don’t want to be around you or date you. They can give you general advices and hope it works out for you, but they can’t help you. Most times if it doesn’t work, there’s no much others can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 03:15 PM
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Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 03:10 PM
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Attractive men and women have it easier. They can date whoever they want, the rest might not have it as easier but they might find at least someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 03:09 PM
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If you’re getting rejected left and right, you definitely have to assess your situation. At the moment your “basic needs and desires “ are not met.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 02:52 PM
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It’s not particularly associated with women because men can do it too. That’s how some people grow up and they have a hard time admitting it because you can’t help them change that mindset. Some people when growing in a broken home might also be extremely needy to the point that lack of affection could make them spiral.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 08:26 AM
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“Unless you really think you need it”, it’s exactly what I am referring to. Rejection can take a toll on someone, taking a break doesn’t mean you are giving up. People take a break from dating all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 08:20 AM
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A break is always good, unless you not taking a break will change the outcome, it wouldn’t make a difference but it would at least help in some ways
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 09:37 PM
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That’s when you have to assess it and take a break, for you own good.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 08:51 PM
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It sucks but your reaction matters. Even in a game you know there will be winners and losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 08:50 PM
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I think that’s one of the reasons people seem to not want to leave. The fact that they would have to start from scratch
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:40 AM
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To be honest there’s nothing wrong with women or men having standards that are labelled as delusional. Why? Because if they were that delusional, they wouldn’t have them at all. Like, delusion would be saying that you want to date an unicorn, but that doesn’t exist. But as long as what you want exists, it’s not delusion. People are too concerned whether someone will get what they want or not. Not because they care but because it excludes them
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 09:57 AM
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I don’t know if women from the west are angry about it, but I don’t think there’s an entitlement where that is justified. I live in the west and growing up I’ve noticed the men from the west getting angry whenever they would see “their” women with men from other countries or third world countries. They would usually say “They come here and take our women”. I never truly understood this as you don’t own the men or women from your country regardless. Women from third world countries usually are no…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 06:28 AM
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Some people can go months and years without it. If you can’t get it, you won’t get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:49 PM
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It’s not about keeping it hidden, if you go around shouting whenever you sleep with someone you look desperate. Dating is used by anyone, especially if they’re still getting to know each other. Some people sleep together when dating so it’s no different
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:47 PM
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The term dating can involved a lot of different relationships, and usually it’s what people do before they make their relationship status known. But some people don’t want to put a label because they don’t necessarily want to be tied down to that person.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 10:48 AM
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Those kinds of relationships are quite nerve-wracking. If someone isn't fully committed, the relationship will never feel truly serious. It's like constantly having to check your back to confirm that you're still together, which isn't worth the effort. Placeholder relationships are anything but enjoyable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 04:40 PM
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Definitely, that’s the reason why dating apps are the easiest way for scammers to extract money from “lonely” guys. They are an easy target
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 04:16 PM
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Indeed, sometimes these girls might settle for what they can get with the hot guy, and a hookup might do the trick. Even if she’s not a 10, she can still attract attention from who she desires, although long term relationships might not always be the outcome. In dating, people seem to often overlook the fact that there are numerous options available for some people, and you might be not only competing with their content with staying single but also other potential suitors who could offer more th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 04:15 PM
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I think it can happen with boys and girls. It’s not a set rule, rather it’s about comfort sometimes
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 04:04 PM
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I don’t use dating app myself. That being said, anyone using dating apps would need to pay to get unlimited swipes, unless they have enough “likes” I believe. I don’t think a lot of people pay for this as they might have success matching with some people without paying. But I know some do as they do not get likes or matches at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 04:03 PM
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The scammers are usually men trying to finesse other men for money. Why? Because they know some people don’t get matched.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 03:56 PM
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It depends, some people will take what they can do even sleeping with the hot dude would still be better than nothing. Unless you’re really unattractive, you won’t struggle much to find a decent person, although relationships might vary
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 03:55 PM
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I think if you’re attractive, it might be easier to go out with someone who’s attractive like you. There might be some struggles if your friends are not similar physically or even mentally. Someone who’s unattractive might have a harder time and project that a lot more
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 03:53 PM
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Women and men with good genetics and that are attractive will always have an easier time dating, than the rest. It’s no one’s fault but people are attracted to what they are attracted to. I hardly think people look at people they deem unattractive twice, unless they might overcompensate in other ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 10:03 AM
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That’s why I am saying it’s based on an individual point of view. You can’t tell someone to like what they don’t like. How does that make sense? There are people that don’t mind men or women who are overweight, but should everyone go with them because one person think it’s okay? Of course not
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 09:39 AM
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What you believe and don’t believe isn’t very important. What you consider a 10, won’t be a 10 for everyone because everyone has different opinions. If they’re able to pull 10s, good for them. I wish everyone could do that 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 09:02 AM
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The same way you know if a woman is attractive in your eyes, the women will know how to differentiate an attractive man from an “ugly” man. It’s not rocket science, dating apps are usually there to give more options. You wouldn’t date 1s or 2s, so in the same argument why would a woman date you if you’re “ugly” based on your perspective?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 08:45 AM
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I think some people might want to have more options, and/or have less time to go out and meet people. For example, someone working Monday to Friday for example. They might not have that much time to go out, and dating apps can help them connect with other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 08:40 AM
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Some of you need to touch grass and get off the internet. This is not babysitting.com
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 01:34 PM
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That would apply for everyone, it’s not a gender thing. The reason is humans want to feel excited about things or feel good even temporarily. That doesn’t mean people are always going to look for these options, unless they lack self control or perhaps don’t get these within their relationship. Saying that people should stop being delusional is crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 07:05 AM
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I think you can’t talk for all men, but this might work for you and if you have a partner, hopefully it works out for her. Not sure how old are you, but this post is a shame, no offence. Find a hobby and work on that, then try this again
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 06:22 AM
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Exactly, they might not take it well but truth is the best option
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 08:07 PM
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I don’t think it’s horrible advice, everyone will have a different point of view. You’ll get downvoted if you give someone the harsh reality, but you’ll be upvoted if you’re willing to dance at their pity party. Realistically advices are not necessarily going to work, yours and theirs might not work unless the main person does the work. When it comes to dating there’s no right or wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 07:51 PM
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You seem okay with your choice, so that’s a positive I would assume
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 05:41 PM
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It’s a waste of time when it doesn’t produce the results you want. But some people have successes, but if after a while you don’t get any, you can also take a step back especially if it’s messing with self esteem
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 04:01 PM
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Forget the norm, women and some men will only want to be approached by people they like. If you’re not what people like, that’s not a requirement. Of course you’ll feel the need to do so if you feel like it might lead to something.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 02:25 PM
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You didn’t know they were bad at first, did you? You found out and you distanced yourself, but you were hanging out with them. You can’t excuse your behaviour yet punish other people, claiming they’re probably shitty people themselves. Just saying, that as their friend you didn’t even know their true colours
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 01:36 PM
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I get the age, but is there any success within those numbers? Like after 100, I would be asking myself questions 😅 I mean do you think there’s anything wrong with being alone forever?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 01:26 PM
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100 women sounds excessive to be fair, are you in touch with reality? I mean the fact that your friends get girls easily don’t necessarily mean anything. They’re not you, and you’re not them. If it doesn’t work out for you, there’s a reason. And you probably know it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 01:18 PM
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But you hang out with them, so that doesn’t make you any better
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 01:15 PM
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Slow down, this will end them 😵‍💫
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 01:11 PM
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That can happen to some, but that’s dating in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 02:57 PM
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Attention is difficult to explain, not every woman will appreciate attention from anyone, unless from people that they actually like or want to date. It’s not women fault in my opinion, as attention can come from anywhere and from anyone. Women that grow with a lot of attention they don’t necessarily see it as people that don’t get it. It becomes boring for some after a while. I think it’s difficult to answer this because it all depends on the person. Like some women that come on here, someone m…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 02:17 PM
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That still means you’re not part of the want category. Still the comment above isn’t wrong. They don’t want you, which might affect your dating. But they’re not wrong if more options are available
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 01:55 PM
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The thing I am confused is that standards are an individual thing, women cannot expect me to be 6ft etc, they want to date people that fit those specifics. Of course that doesn’t mean that if you’re shorter, you have to “grow” taller. It just means that the woman will unlikely go with you. I don’t think people understand that. It’s the same as liking a specific type of women and wanting to date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 01:35 PM
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Their purpose is to sell you a dream and hope you’re desperate enough. Some people will benefit from it, while others just watch from the corner
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 01:18 PM
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I wouldn’t say it’s a waste of time but I agree otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 01:11 PM
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Yes, that’s right but on a daily you’ll have several casual chats. But unless you go further to create a deeper connection, then it’s just a chit chat
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:50 AM
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There are some men that care about money, but some that have that much money they don’t look too much at it. But if they were to go through some financial difficulties, they will definitely care as they can’t maintain the lifestyle
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:48 AM
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My point isn’t to say that you can’t have or handle a casual chat, the point is that a casual chat is not the same as a friendship. On a daily, you can have multiple conversations with people (e.g. supermarket) that you’ll hardly ever see again, but that won’t cure your loneliness. If you want to at least feel less alone, it’s better to focus on creating deeper connections with people that you can hang out with. That’s just what I think, even people that share the same hobbies. Still, making fri…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:46 AM
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If it’s about curing loneliness, then it’s better to at least find something to do outside of dating. And although you might not necessarily like it, it would be better to join some sort of groups that involves both men and women if possible. You won’t cure loneliness staying indoors, but if you try to go outside and enjoy the little things, who knows, maybe you’ll feel less alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:43 AM
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Yes, but I think a casual chit chat might not compare with an actual friend you can hang around on a daily or even on the weekend. I don’t think it disproves your point but at the same time it doesn’t help it. That won’t cure people “loneliness” especially when it might happen once in a while. We all have small chats with people, but that doesn’t mean you’ll become bestie eh eh
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:39 AM
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They might think the same but it wouldn’t be for the same reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:30 AM
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I can empathise with the struggles many face today in finding love or even initiating relationships, especially compared to their aspirations when younger. It's not their fault; societal dynamics have shifted, leaving gaps in fulfillment despite modern conveniences. It's disheartening to witness individuals putting in effort, overcoming past hurts, yet facing barriers to connection. I empathise with those who followed societal norms yet their lives still remain unfulfilled. The challenge of form…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 07:55 AM
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I’ll gladly go and hope you’ll get there too man. But the person above gave good advices
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 12:43 PM
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They usually want to make it everyone’s problem
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 12:36 PM
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That’s how they cope, and you have to understand that they’re usually lost with that mindset. It takes time to build that belief, it’s not as easy to come off it. Example: https://youtu.be/2wjOhHun-EM?si=EkxyHJgQdLIDcceT
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 04:22 PM
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I think victim mentality is one of the reasons. Not saying you applied pressure, but I think a lot of people will benefit from just leaving them be. Sometimes it’s better to allow people to use their own hands to destroy their life, especially if you’ve tried to help.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 04:13 PM
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Sometimes it’s better to just let them live the way they want to live. No need to apply pressure.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 04:08 PM
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Yes, it can be good if well defined, but they might work better in the example you’ve provided (e.g. don’t have time for dating). It might not necessarily work if people are settling for this type of lifestyle and feelings might still be part of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 03:00 PM
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I don’t think we can describe FWB as a relationship, but it’s more of a friendship with added benefits for both. It might lead to a relationship for some, but I think that it’s not ideal long term. If feelings are involved, the friendship ends as well and it’s difficult to go back to square one. Also, with these type of friendship, it’s not always common. Some people might casually date first and then transition to a FWB arrangement. But that will still be selective
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 12:32 PM
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I would make sure people are more honest with their feelings and the type of relationship they want. For example, people that want to date casually wouldn’t be put together with people who are looking for LTR. Also, I would raise awareness regarding singleness and how it’s not a bad thing. Probably teach people to build healthy relationships not necessarily romantic. I think we have to understand that some people want relationships while others won’t. If you can’t find your person, it’s nobody’s…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 08:45 AM
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I would guess it was written by a woman. In the dating scene, it's often more common for men to feel put off by a woman with a successful career or a high level of education. There are various reasons for this. Firstly, some men may feel inadequate compared to her achievements, leading to discomfort. Secondly, they might feel emasculated, struggling to fulfill traditional gender roles. Additionally, they may worry that she'll desire more than they can comfortably provide. Another factor is the w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 06:39 PM
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Be who you are 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 12:40 PM
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Again, you’re proving my point. So, we are going in circles 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 12:33 PM
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You jumped in triggered, like my comment hits home. No amount of explanation would have helped. You’re either too young or down bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 12:26 PM
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Yes, you’re down bad 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 10:09 AM
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You came onto a discussion where ONS was discussed, you sound confused. I don’t think you’re understanding what I am talking about at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 08:04 PM
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You are so triggered you’re making things up, it’s not that deep. If the shoes fits, wear them proudly. My comment was referring people that cannot even get people to date them. If what you’re craving is some sexy time, you’ll have to pay for it. And that’s just how it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 07:09 PM
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Brother, chill out. We should never justify that sort of rage. And it’s wrong regardless of gender, especially when you’re taking it on people that have nothing to do with your problem. If it’s a good time, men or women, can pay for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 06:24 PM
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The fact that someone can’t get ps don’t and will never justify that kind of rage. If that desperate pay for it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 06:15 AM
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Exactly!!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 05:53 AM
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I agree although depends on the guy and also the girl. But I think there’s more advantage if you’re just looking for ONS, but not necessarily for dating. And also the type of men that will be available might be larger but not a lot will be of “quality”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 05:20 AM
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You're worried you'll end up single, yet you don’t mind wasting someone’s time acting like what they are looking for. That’s not good for a long-term relationship; the act will drop soon, and it’s back to square one. The problem arises when you’re pretending and displaying behaviours you don’t normally exhibit at all; you'll struggle to maintain it. Once she notices, she’ll ask what’s wrong. Don’t get me wrong, some people end up married, but that’s when divorce becomes an issue or just being pl…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 06:38 PM
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And why should it matter? If giving your sincere 100% effort isn't sufficient, then it's best to move on. Someone else will have no issue genuinely committing. Pretending to provide 100%, only to drop to below 25% once you've won her over because the rest was an act, it's no surprise she'll eventually leave. What's even worse is playing the victim and claiming she left despite all your efforts. Putting yourself in a position where you act like the perfect boyfriend will only lead to burnout, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:22 PM
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You shouldn’t do things you can’t keep up, it becomes your fault if you can’t deliver. It’s better to present yourself for who you are, if not she has rights to ask why you changed
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:54 PM
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I meant to say that sometimes certain men resort to "love bombing" tactics to win over a woman, but this behaviour often ceases once they believe you've become emotionally invested in them. However, for some, these efforts may last for a shorter duration than you mentioned, perhaps only persisting for a month or two, realistically speaking. They might not even take the initiative to plan dates, instead opting to ask the woman what she would like to do, shifting responsibility onto her if nothing…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:31 PM
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She’s lucky, having someone that is able to do things and organise things is definitely good
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:24 PM
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Isn’t that what some people do? They think money is all they can offer
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:23 PM
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Alexa play “love bombing”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:18 PM
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I think it depends, if you ain’t go standards then you’re able to go with anyone. If you have some standards, that wouldn’t happen at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:17 PM
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Then hopefully you ain’t have nothing to worry
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:04 PM
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I can’t disagree if you can get or experience a first relationship, but if you end up without one, it’s back to square one
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 06:24 AM
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Some people struggle to find a second relationship after experiencing one, while others may not find a partner at all. Having been in a relationship before doesn't guarantee anything further. However, if you're comfortable with telling the world you’ve been in ONE. relationship, then I hope you can find contentment in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 06:18 AM
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Nah, no need for that when that is what happens. Scammers try to do the same on dating apps
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 06:13 AM
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You made a good point but realistically some of them can’t afford it comfortably. They the same ones that struggle to groom themselves and have a shower, that the main advice people give them is to have one ffs
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 10:18 PM
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You think so because you never experienced it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 10:08 PM
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I think dating apps will definitely be filled with them 😅 and young women (real or fake) will try to get older guys for the money. Which is why results can be skewed if they see the wallet but not the person
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 09:27 PM
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They have the options but they might not always use it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 04:54 PM
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I think that’s the reason why she’s saying that they have to find a way to cope and be okay with the choice. She might also have less options
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 04:45 PM
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Churches usually have this positive outlook on life and they think marrying is something everyone should and can achieve. Therefore, they’ll definitely help when it comes to setting up their members together. But usually your faith has to be the same
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 04:31 PM
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I agree, they would need to have shared values in some church communities to marry. But everyone is different
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 04:30 PM
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She said she made that decision at 26, she’s now 34
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 04:28 PM
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Based on the numbers of guys that find funny messing with guys on dating apps, I wouldn’t blame you
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 04:27 PM
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I don’t think I completely agree, these days it's increasingly difficult for the average person to even find affordable housing, let alone consider spending a significant amount for a brief encounter. Although I believe if money wasn’t an issue, more people would go for it, I also agree with you that it would still leave some people with an empty feeling. However, that's a personal journey for them to navigate. Casual dating vary in significance; for some, it's solely about the physical act, whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 04:14 PM
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The results of dating experiences can vary depending on the individual, but my main point still stands. If your interactions mostly involve swiping right and having average conversations, then your experiences aren't reflective enough. Such experience may not provide sufficient grounds to draw conclusions that the OP is likely seeking. Having options only matters when they're genuinely accessible, not just on a dating app filled with bots or other users competing for the same person or attention…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 03:13 PM
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I don’t think I made myself clear. I am trying to say that unless the conversations are taken out of the dating app or there are face to face interaction, the results are not accurate. Dating apps can sometimes match you with some people but that doesn’t mean that you can get them. I think dating apps can give a sense of options but they might not be true options
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 08:49 AM
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Prostitution isn't always within reach for the average person financially. I reckon casual dating might be more friendly and potentially offer a more comprehensive experience, depending on the individuals involved, meeting both emotional and sexual needs in some cases. In the sex work industry, you'd likely have to shell out more for someone to cater to all the aspects. I think that’s why some people would prefer a relationship or at least dating someone casually, as why would they pay for it, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 08:45 AM
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Don’t think you need to but based on the information you’ve provided, results cannot be verified or be as accurate 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 08:15 AM
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Dang man
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 08:09 AM
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Unless they’re going through the same thing, they won’t understand the point of view to be fair
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 08:04 AM
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The assumptions are probably the worst
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 08:01 AM
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It’s always better to approach on your own, especially if in a group as if you’re not the most attractive within the group, it might not work out .
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 07:43 AM
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You're essentially engaging in couple-like activities as mates, a common trend nowadays that often leads to undefined situationships. These arrangements can be enjoyable until feelings develop or complications arise, especially if children are involved. It seems like your dynamic involves more than just physical intimacy; there's a friendship component where you share banter and companionship without the commitment typically associated with a romantic relationship. Although prostitution isn't le…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 07:34 AM
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I don’t blame the women, especially when the bio of these men contain excuses on why they entered the wrong age 🤣🤣 like why are you even there?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 07:26 AM
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Yes, you have to look good but looking young can definitely increase your chances and definitely help with women who want to date around their age. If you look good but old, the options can also be limited. Richard Gere looked good in pretty woman, he was put together. But you could still notice he is a bit older in age
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 07:20 AM
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Unless you are actually getting the girls, the results are not and cannot be accurate. People swipe right a lot, considering some people are also bots..
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 07:13 AM
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Some guys on dating apps, I believe they tend to lie about their profile age but would redeem themselves on the bio. “I am not 26, I am actually 43”.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 07:00 AM
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If the man is old but looks young and have financial stability, they might have a chance but that’s not every person around. Money might overcompensate for the rest but if you’re not attractive, you’ll probably only get by if you can pay for it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 06:55 AM
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I don’t think everyone enjoy it but they might feel like it’s expected, and they might also want their partner to feel good. I think if you don’t get oral, you shouldn’t give it as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 09:44 AM
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However, it still doesn’t negate the fact that it's a hookup session, likely accompanied by some banter. This doesn't imply a lack of appreciation for the other person. It probably fits into the "friends with benefits" category, but the primary objective is sexual. After all, if that weren't the case, why not spend time with your friends? Or hang out with them without the sex and then head home? I don’t think anyone with sense would sleep with someone they don’t like or are attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 09:35 AM
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To me both can coexist but it depends on the individuals. Think about it, you want to have casual sex with someone but don’t want a relationship, yet keep them around to have a beer? I can understand friends with benefits arrangement, but it’s just not always ideal. Someone might end up catching feelings because it is an intimate act, and anything you do after the do might be misunderstood. Someone getting ready to leave after getting it, shouldn’t be a shock when that might be expected. You can…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 08:42 PM
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So you’ve never been promoted at work. Like at all? I live in the UK and I’ve noticed a balance when it comes to promotions, and women don’t apply for most of the jobs. Are you sure you’re doing the job well? I am asking because even when I was working at my last warehouse, the young guys would complain about being “tired” but literally picking 2 items.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 05:25 PM
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I don’t necessarily blame them, I think people should vet their partner better than they are at the moment. I can understand that from a woman’s perspective, that would be looking for a partner that can provide. Not necessarily for her, but what about the children. I wouldn’t compliment a friend dating someone who cannot take care of their children, because most times everyone else around will pick up the slack unfortunately
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 05:17 PM
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I don’t think a lot of people took this into consideration years ago, and it was not uncommon for the husband (mostly sole breadwinner) to die before the wife. Did people ever think how the woman would sustain the house? Even todays wage are not enough to keep a partner at home
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 05:13 PM
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It’s not rare, most times in casual dating you have someone who’s in there just for the sex, the other might wish for more. I don’t agree with it, because if you want a relationship you should go for it rather than settling to be a sex toy 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 04:47 PM
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Yes, I get that but this things need to be discussed. People can’t expect casual sex and also deeper intimacy. Yes, hugs and cuddling are usually for people that are in relationships. The main interest in casual dating isn’t to learn or care for each other. Most times is to have someone around when you need temporary pleasure. And that doesn’t mean they don’t have multiple people that provide them with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 12:12 PM
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I mean if you’ve agreed to have only sex, then why would they stay around for? I don’t think it means they are behaving like men, most people don’t realise that the behaviours can be similar depending on the individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 09:41 PM
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Negative thoughts will obviously impact the quality of your life, and unless you learn how to change that, it will be internalised and affect other aspects of life. It is a start from who’s point of view, yours or the other person? Think about it, if you’re a negative person, why don’t you deal with it to be able to be a better partner. Anytime people have issues in life, they want to get attached to someone to validate their feelings while failing to resolve the main issue. It’s not even about …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 09:33 PM
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How would getting into a relationship get you reassured by the world? Just take a minute to think about it. The world wouldn’t care to be fair, although I would agree that family will probably leave you alone
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 09:21 PM
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Reassurance from who? And why a monster, unless you’re one?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 09:10 PM
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Well said! I don’t think people realise that most times you can fix your issues , and you don’t necessarily need someone else to do so. Get into a relationship, fine, but don’t think that it will fix all your problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 09:07 PM
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I believe often we overlook the competition with someone's desire to remain single. For instance, if they can manage independently, they'll question the need for a relationship. Additionally, they'll likely seek attractiveness or financial security as incentives. Some partners don't contribute equally to the relationship, which is a reality. However, if you have the possibility to date up, and you’re not doing bad, it's logical and wise to go that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 08:54 PM
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I think most times people realise they don’t necessarily need a relationship to be “okay”. You can never truly be happy unless you’re okay with yourself. Some people need others to validate them, and when that doesn’t happen is difficult for them to process it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 08:42 PM
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I think that’s the most important part, it has to be with the right person and at the right time. So you don’t end up worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 08:36 PM
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The points you made were very naive, almost like you want people to believe you or you want to believe this points so bad. It’s sad to see, touch outside a bit
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 03:53 PM
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Yes, and it starts from childhood. I think people don’t realise that when we were children it was worse. They will exclude someone for minor things. The first thing we see about someone is their appearance, and that can definitely affect what happens next. But I also believe the halo effect can play a part.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 03:50 PM
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Only people that haven’t touched grass will believe looks don’t matter. Like, let’s be honest most people wouldn’t date themselves based on their looks, yet you want someone outside of yourself to do so. How does that even make sense? Like, we ain’t got to believe everything our parent say.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 03:25 PM
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You should do more research to be fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 01:25 PM
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I would ask her if she really wants a relationship, to be honest too many people act like they want relationship but they don’t necessarily do. They want to have let’s say a child, but suck at relationships. They want a house but can’t afford it on their own. They want companionship, but they want people to hang out with but being in a social circles is difficult for them. I don’t think it’s a red flag, relationships are not for everyone and the less people go around using people as therapists o…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 05:29 PM
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I responded to the thread separately, and I will repeat that based on the information OP gave I cannot see nothing wrong. There are people that travel way more than that, two trips are nothing. The thread is not a real life scenario, so you need to chill dude. It’s a discussion, as I said I responded to the comment above. You can still do things on your own, as soon as you’re respecting your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 05:26 PM
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I would read your point but I can definitely see you didn’t put any effort in your writing. So we can agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 03:00 PM
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It all depends on the purpose of the trip. For example, some people take 6-month trips to travel around the world, mainly for vacation and work on the side to finance their journey. If I were to visit the Philippines, I'd definitely set aside some time to explore parts of the country, even while working. You never know when you'll have the opportunity to visit again, even if it's just taking an extra few days. My initial comment was in response to another user saying they would be mad if their b…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 02:29 PM
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It’s because you’re not familiar with work trips 😅 You can use them as a way to sponsor your vacations if planned correctly. Any extra day would be at your expense of course. My comment again was referring to the Hawaii comment. Your partner will probably have the opportunity to visit countries at a different time, if he/she spends $5,000 and it’s their dream destination what’s wrong? They asked and you can’t go, who cares? It’s not a big deal. You have other trips that you can do together.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 02:00 PM
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Are you telling me that work trips cannot be used as a way to sponsor vacations? Especially when they are abroad mostly paid for? Telling me you’re joking 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 01:35 PM
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You are not flashing your genitals when you’re peeing, and boobs are not the same as genitals. Like being topless isn’t a crime
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 11:27 AM
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Yes, I was going to say, are they not ashamed? 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 11:24 AM
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Yes definitely, when choice excludes them, it then becomes an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 11:23 AM
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My comment refers to the comment above it, which clearly said that they would be upset if their partner went to Hawaii on their own. If they were offered a work trip to Hawaii, they’ll technically be going to Hawaii without you. Or even if it was a planned group trip for boys/girls only, the trip will still be without you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 11:21 AM
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Both can struggle, like some people struggle to even get a date or to even go on dates with people they actually like.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 08:26 AM
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I think some people don’t necessarily like that people have choices nowadays that’s the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 08:05 AM
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People are different, but people like to put them in a box. Some people go for looks alone, others go for both looks and personality, others go for security or financial reasons, while others go for personality which can help them like the person regardless of how conventionally attractive they are. Men and women, people just don’t listen or understand people evolve and everyone is entitled to their preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 08:03 AM
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To be honest, that’s an extreme example to be fair. But I think you don’t recognise that is not a gender thing, rather a person thing. And although men and women might do it differently, you have guys who spend time and day calculating facial structure of celebrities and rating how average they are compared to the average person 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 06:10 PM
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I believe we can respectfully agree to disagree, as someone taking trips or doing things without you doesn't necessarily indicate they don't like you, especially if it's an occasional occurrence. Certainly, partners can enjoy vacations together, but it's also acceptable if they don't go on every single trip together. Sometimes you'll have the time and money to travel as a couple, and sometimes you won't. It varies. If the funds aren't sufficient to cover your trip, why would they pay? There may …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 06:04 PM
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Your reply indicated that you would feel upset if your partner went to Hawaii alone. Wouldn't them going on a work trip, for instance, also be considered being on their own? My response highlighted that certain situations in life may necessitate one person having to handle things independently. Although some things you can share together, or later on for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 05:58 PM
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I think today it depends, first move can be made by both but effort is what counts and that lacks nowadays
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 05:52 PM
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Honestly, it varies depending on the woman, but they face their own challenges too. Women over there definitely wish for a better life more than the women who are in the west, and even if they don’t, their family will. Marrying someone who isn't doing well can be looked down upon, although some might do so due to age pressures just to claim they're married, particularly because of cultural expectations. Some may be able to buy time through education or other means, but not everyone can afford th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 05:45 PM
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Well, in this case the other party offered, but since money was an issue the other person declined. It’s not that bad and not uncommon. It could also be due to time and other commitments, even in a relationship, you’re still separate individuals
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 05:25 PM
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It can still be considered a serious relationship, but they don’t live together
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 05:24 PM
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The hypothetical scenario that the OP provided is quite broad and could encompass situations where the job sponsors the trip or when there's a great deal on travel. Personally, I've experienced my job sponsoring a two-night stay at a theme park, with the option for partners to join. While I enjoyed the spacious rooms on my own, I didn't have to cover any expenses. There have also been occasions when I was invited on a trip but couldn't go due to university coursework commitments. However, once I…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 05:23 PM
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Not everyone live together, you can stay in separate houses for example and have separate bills
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 05:05 PM
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Some people in relationships take solo trips or even friendship group trips. It’s not uncommon
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 05:05 PM
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I don’t think the relationship will last and probably wouldn’t advise it especially if the person you’re with doesn’t match some certain aspect. You have every right as a person to enjoy life, and unfortunately can’t always wait for people. There might be things you can’t do, that your partner will do. And that’s okay, if you know you can’t respect that or feel comfortable with that, it’s always better to take yourself out of the picture imo
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 04:58 PM
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There are situations where someone has to handle things solo. If their job required them to relocate temporarily for example and they asked if you could join but you couldn't, it's understandable. They've done their best, but everyone's life is on a different path.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 04:56 PM
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How old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 10:34 AM
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I hope so, I think you’re better than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 08:17 AM
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So what would you say it’s the reason why you have this sort of mindset, if you are not doing too bad for yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 08:08 AM
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I genuinely meant no judgment towards you. I simply acknowledged that what I wrote might have been triggering, which prompted a response from you based on your experiences. You're likely to want to explain your experience, but please know I wasn't judging you, babes 🤷‍♂️.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 04:03 PM
1

Based on your writing, I could have guess you were talking from experience which could be the reason it might have been a bit triggering. However, not everyone feels comfortable, especially when you're at someone's parents' house. Respect is key here. While there may be times when you need to stay at your/their parents' house for various reasons, most people understand that their privacy may be compromised. Even during renovations, they typically prefer to move out as soon as the place is livabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 12:54 PM
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Says who? There are millions of other people that are fun to be around? Like why would they say yes? 😅 Like, we are not in primary school, if you ain’t going to be their friend nobody will die 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 02:39 PM
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People can be selective to who they are nice to. I don’t think people understand that they do that sometimes
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 02:37 PM
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There could be different categories of assholes, the one that gets the opportunity, the other don’t and complains about the ones that gets it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 02:05 PM
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Wait until people find out the competition includes competing with someone’s freedom or singleness.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 09:09 AM
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I agree with the last part, about being nice only if you’re really a nice person. Don’t expect people to be fooled by you not being genuinely nice, people can sense it. And when you start thinking this way, it gets to show that you were never genuine in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 09:04 AM
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For all they know you could also be an asshole, but you just don’t have anything to show for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 08:22 AM
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You’re talking like they have to say yes to being more than friends with you, why? Why should they say yes? And do you think that justify you feeling that way?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 08:13 AM
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Honestly, like if they are so desperate to get someone, they should definitely explore that side
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 08:00 AM
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Indeed, like when the true colours start showing 🙃
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 07:55 AM
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If being nice becomes a facade to attract someone, the responsibility lies with you. It's commendable to be genuinely kind because it aligns with your character. However, when niceness is exaggerated and insincere, others can sense it, even if you can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 07:53 AM
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Indeed, it's absurd to generalize all men as women haters. It's important to take responsibility and acknowledge if one's dating experiences have led to frustration. Some individuals develop negative feelings due to the influence of so-called "support" groups that amplify unjustified anger.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 07:48 AM
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The issue lies in the misunderstanding of dating dynamics. While those around you may offer advice, their own success doesn't necessarily equate to understanding dating. Like many aspects of life, some strategies may yield results while others may not. Ultimately, it's up to you to decide whether to persist or move on. Phrases like "there's someone for everyone" are optimistic but not guaranteed. If things don't work out, it's a sign it might not be the right fit for you. Mistreating others due …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 07:42 AM
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Sounds like you described yourself 😭🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 07:08 AM
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I think children should be corrected when doing wrong. Resenting or being jealous of someone for their achievement isn’t something good to instil in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 11:06 PM
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They both can fit that description (grown adult) but your parents are not your roommate. The bottom point is most people will not feel comfortable sleeping with their partner at their parents house.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 09:44 PM
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That’s why I said it depends on the individual, not everyone want to start a family and some people have different definitions of a family. Like I would be alright adopting for example and impacting other people life positively. I think that is the problem, some people don’t make enough money to live comfortably which is sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 07:18 PM
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I think it’s possible to thrive, but it depends on the individual. The problem nowadays is that unless you have a good income, it might be very difficult to be independent or to have a good lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 07:10 PM
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Unfortunately, we can't simply look at the previous generation and expect to attain everything they did. Even in the past, neither men nor women were assured relationships, though some did find their way into one. Relationships used to be primarily about survival for some, but nowadays, it's possible to thrive independently. While this reality may be unsettling for some, it's a sentiment felt by many.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:21 PM
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Society comprises the majority, and if something benefits at least some individuals, the rest will adapt and move forward. If it doesn't work for you, then it's simply not your fit. In my view, the repercussions won't be as severe as they appear. Unless a solution arises, the issue will eventually fade, and life will carry on for the rest. There are worse issue at the moment that have an actual solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 05:13 PM
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Finding peace is essential, but some individuals simply cover up their struggles and keep moving forward. It's important to set up the right environment and support network. At the end, we're born alone, and a relationship doesn't always change that reality, to be honest. Certainly, some people have advantages in certain aspects of life, as you mentioned, such as someone living in America compared to someone in a third-world country. It's not their fault they were born in the country. However, s…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 05:10 PM
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However, this is the reality for some individuals, which is why I advocate for awareness and understanding to mitigate its impact. Unless there's a good example of how such a situation can be managed, the point I am making still stand. I actually come from a country where accessing basic necessities like food and accommodation isn't easy, I'm familiar with that perspective. However, I would never equate the inability to find a partner with something as fundamental as getting electricity. Food an…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 04:56 PM
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Regardless, they'll remain single, so they might as well begin adjusting to that reality. If they're at risk of self-harm, seeking help is crucial. If not, if they pose a threat to society, then it becomes the government's or perhaps their parents' responsibility to address the issue. If they wanted to be helpful, they could create support groups to help navigate single life and provide each other with companionship .
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 03:53 PM
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I doubt they'll reach that point. In the end, I don't believe people will care as much. Society will persist, and those who can date will continue to do so, or just stay single. Once they realize this, they'll be okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 03:49 PM
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Certainly, that's one approach. However, there will always be a significant number of stable men and women who can navigate relationships effectively. Others can choose their paths and move forward accordingly. Society benefits from individuals who can resolve conflicts and perhaps it would be beneficial to encourage people to be less envious and resentful. Realistically, I don't anticipate a drastic change, and perhaps more individuals would prefer those who struggle in relationships to be set …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 03:45 PM
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Often, people resort to settling for "someone" or seeking emotional and physical support because they don't have access to better options or what they truly desire. If you lack emotional support, it's crucial to reflect on why that is and why you don't have people with whom you can share your feelings. Frankly, if you're unable to find companionship, what's the next step?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 03:37 PM
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This is why we struggle to genuinely celebrate others' accomplishments; jealousy or resentment often overshadow our happiness for them. Expressing your feelings is valid, but complaining about dating, which is typically a choice, seems misplaced. If there's an issue, it's best to deal with it internally rather than projecting it onto others. Most people won't be able to change the situation anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 03:33 PM
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That has a lot to do with how people grow up, which is why I said it is because we don’t correct children. The problem isn’t caused by people outside of yourself, most times it is cause by the environment you grew up. It might be a human feeling, but it’s wrong to feel jealous about someone else in my opinion. As I said, if the consequences would be based on them taking out on the world, instead of themselves 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 03:16 PM
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That’s because we don’t correct children or people and they grow thinking the world owes them most things. Realistically no one outside of yourself has created the situation, and you’re the only one that can “solve” it. And that’s by making peace with the fact that it might not happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 03:10 PM
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Although I can understand the depression part, this is something that needs to be handled differently. No one is guaranteed this in the first place, so that depression will hit harder if you don’t make peace within yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 03:06 PM
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The issue isn't being single, it's how one handles it. It's normal not to always have romantic prospects; just keep moving forward. Making a big fuss over being single is irrational. I believe if someone feels the urge to cause harm and can't control it, they should direct it towards themselves rather than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 03:03 PM
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And would that stem from the fact that they are single? Because they are already like some of us, so they need to adjust 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 02:57 PM
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What are the consequences, if I may ask?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 02:52 PM
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Then so be it 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 12:04 PM
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The reason is because they’re unable to see themselves past the loneliness. But reality is some people will still be affected by that, and the best way to solve the issue is to find ways for loneliness to not be as bad rather than using someone
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 12:03 PM
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That would only make it worse because once people start understanding a lot of the options are desperate, there wont be a point to even date. Or still, it will get even worse for the people that struggle at the moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 12:01 PM
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You’re behind, she didn’t say anything wrong or that could be misinterpreted
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 12:00 PM
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I don’t blame women who are exiting the dating scene for that reason
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 11:58 AM
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I agree, most circles I am in I can definitely see the men looking for their next relationship even after a fresh breakup.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 11:57 AM
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Yes, but your parents are not your roommate by definition 😅 they are your family. They can set rules for you not to bring in any girl or boy, and can also tell your “friend” to go home if they deemed necessary. Your parents could also enter your room whenever they want, and can basically do whatever they want in their “OWN” house. If you rent a room or flat share with other tenants or even with a live-in landlord you have rights to do what you want, as soon as there is no restrictions set by the…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 08:10 AM
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Yes, I think that would have given you an advantage perhaps, and you wouldn’t have come as strong. That’s just being a human, we put in more effort for what we want and sometimes we might not realise that we are “doing too much” and that the other person might feel this. But we live and learn…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 08:09 AM
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Attractiveness would help most time, I would be surprised if men or women would settle for someone they don’t seem attractive. That would definitely affect any work someone would be willing to put in.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 08:05 AM
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Based on what you’ve written, I wouldn’t consider this putting someone in a pedestal. Like, you explained how she’s out of your league, do you think you’re the first or last that will compliment her? And the rest of what you’ve written to here are not necessarily bad but they might come across as someone who hasn’t interacted with people for a while. As you said they might come across as cringe but also not genuine. It was also lockdown so I am not even surprised to be fair. But good on you rega…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 08:00 AM
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It’s better to keep going than settle for someone you don’t like 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:57 PM
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You don’t have to date people you’re not attracted to. If you can’t find what you’re looking for stay put. Like why do people do that to themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:45 PM
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I think if you’re built when short, you’re likely to look shorter but it all depends on the individual
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:34 PM
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Becaus it doesn’t matter to some women, but it matters to others. It’s a preference, we don’t have to understand it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:33 PM
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I wouldn’t consider parents roommate, they are the owner of the house 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 04:46 PM
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Are you asking why a grown person would not feel comfortable doing the do at another grown adult’s house they don’t necessarily know that well?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 03:58 PM
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Definitely, there are always exceptions. But if someone is serious about their future and wanted to find a god mate, they would need to do better.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 01:29 PM
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The process of getting papers in a different country is usually long and time consuming, you can get your partner to stay in your country with the necessary papers but they have to stay with you for a specific amount of time to qualify for permanent residency. Children can also help sometimes, but that power imbalance can be harsh
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:18 AM
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Honestly, like I don’t think some people do the maths, like I believe most grown people wouldn’t feel comfortable doing things at someone’s parent house. And some people try while the parents are home, to me that’s mental. And if they own a car, just know they’ll abuse the hell out of it 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 08:40 AM
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Someone can be into you but if you’re not what they’re looking for, then you’re not what they’re looking for. Someone who’s younger will have less requirements in terms of dating than someone older, maybe looking to get married in the next few years. If that’s her/his preference, keep it moving
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 08:35 AM
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Hotels can be expensive but can also not allow spontaneity in my opinion. Unless you want to book in advance to have some time off with your partner of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 08:18 AM
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I’ve noticed some taking their new wife back while others don’t. I think after a few some time living in the west, the wife realise a lot. And still can be subjected to mistreatment or threatened to stay with the person because of the status in the country.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 07:03 AM
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Are you telling me that the government or perhaps your boss at work would come and chase you down at home because you weren’t married 10 years ago but they wanted so badly for you to advance to middle management?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 06:56 AM
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Honestly, like are we supposed to congratulate them for going through stages of grief? What’s this stage, bargaining? 😬 I might need to check the link out
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 07:22 PM
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That’s mostly the case, almost like they expect us to be magician and make that disappear.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 07:05 PM
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It’s not and was never a requirement like the dudes on here make it to be 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 07:03 PM
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That’s one thing I don’t like. Every situation is different and people should navigate it without having people with one personal experience telling them what to do
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 12:19 PM
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There are men that won’t have problem doing that, but that might not include a lot of people and that’s fair
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 12:15 PM
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Amen
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 12:08 PM
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I don’t necessarily believe she is right, but I don’t understand not dating when you’re broke or at your worst. I think it’s okay to take a break and work things out, but when you have people dating when their life is crumbling or trying to move in with anyone because of desperation is not good in my opinion. At the end, problem will arise which will make that person rethink whether they should be in a relationship or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 11:43 AM
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People are not always interested in understanding whether the person has actually been abused or not, sometimes it’s easier for them to say it never happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 04:07 PM
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Nothing like believing they are right, but I don’t think telling them they are lying without even hearing the story is right, which some people do nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 04:06 PM
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Yes that’s true, but people should not defend this statement, rather say something. The bad influences seem to be the loudest and people read and assume
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 09:32 AM
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Nobody is owed a relationship, especially since it takes two people agreeing to be in one. But hey, it's totally fine to want to be in a relationship, you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 09:25 AM
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I definitely agree, I say this as well. Unless there’s facts to establish that this person is lying we should support them instead of trying to paint them as the bad person
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 09:22 AM
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Exactly, if you are friends to begin with and can’t upgrade to a romantic relationship, by standard you are still in the friendship “level”. If you don’t feel comfortable due to feelings that have developed, you can choose to leave at anytime. Same with situationships, you might want to get a relationship out of it, but it doesn’t always work. That doesn’t mean that you stop being in a situationship, unless the person decides to end it. I think by this logic, you’re not stuck in a friendzone/sit…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 09:18 AM
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I don’t think you’ve got a chance if you got rejected, they might just want to be your friend period. Although most times people can hardly maintain friendships following a rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 09:09 AM
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I don’t necessarily think they are the same but you can feel the same way in both, just that a romantic relationship you have more access to their time, and possibly get more than you’d get from a standard friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 09:07 AM
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I think that’s one of the issue, because when it comes to sexual abuse or mistreatment, men will tell the world to not care because they either “enjoy” it or they should be man enough to not have let that happen. It’s wrong but they make it seem like a positive thing. The only time it is brought up it’s when a woman shares her experience, which is fair but at the same time I wish they would report this issues more.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 09:01 AM
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I think helping someone to gain something from them will always be wrong in my opinion. You can help someone but you shouldn’t expect that person would sleep with you, for example. It’s not genuine and it make sense when it doesn’t work with everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 08:54 AM
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Yes I definitely agree, thanks 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 02:18 PM
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The experience you describe, is the same I am going through at the moment. I’ve tried to be understanding but it’s just too difficult as I feel like it won’t get any better 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 02:12 PM
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This describe what I found myself in, but I have given up 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 02:02 PM
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Your standards can change anytime, but if you’re with someone you don’t like or are settling for because you can’t get what you truly want, that still stand.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 12:51 PM
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Yes I agree, but there has to be some level of interest which could even translate to liking someone, even at face level. I think to even pursue something with someone you need to be very much interested than just curious about them. I don’t think it has to be romantic from the start, but you don’t make effort unless you think it’s worth it. You can’t approach someone and expected them to do the work for YOU. You approach, you do the work. No one is forced into approaching anyone, and whatever i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 09:49 AM
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There shouldn’t be a season where you USE people to be fair. If you can’t get what you want, then so be it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 05:23 PM
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I never understood people going with whoever they can get because they can’t get what they want
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 07:18 AM
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This is well put, and more common nowadays. But it starts from dating as well where most want to get away with the least amount of effort
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 07:14 AM
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Nowadays the effort is probably done at the start, like initiating conversations then the other party is expected to finish it off. If you approach someone I would guess is because you like them, so you’re expected to put more effort unless agreed between two people giving it a try
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 07:13 AM
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I don’t think everyone need relationship for survival mode, but I think it depends on the individual and their circumstances. Not every man or woman qualify for welfare and it depends if they want to be married or maybe have a stable future so to speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 08:03 AM
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I definitely agree, although nowadays you definitely have men and women getting into relationships for different reasons other than love. And sometimes it’s because they’re on survival mode and/or want someone to provide them with things out of a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 07:57 AM
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I definitely agree, although nowadays you definitely have men and women getting into relationships for different reasons other than love. And sometimes it’s because they’re on survival mode and/or want someone to provide them with things out of a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 07:56 AM
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No, the people I am referring to are not the ones trying to pay for love. But I get what you mean, I think that nowadays you hardly get much out of relationships from either party unless the love is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 07:49 AM
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I don’t think it’s an exception nowadays, you’re likely to find a woman spoiling their man and taking care of them compared to before when that might not have been possible. Nowadays, you can also see the same men not having anything going for themselves or not able to afford it even. I think it depends on the individual as well. And also the fact that people don’t wait to date when they’re doing okay, but use dating as a way to get satisfaction out of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 07:39 AM
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That’s not every relationship tho. Not every man do that with their partner, sometimes it’s the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 07:34 AM
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Certainly, statistics often overlook the primary factors behind the numbers. For instance, women may experience employment gaps due to childbirth or choosing to stay at home to care for children. The societal expectation that women are the default caregivers means there's little scrutiny on whether the father remains present. Additionally, not all parents contribute equally financially, which further complicates the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 06:05 PM
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Women tend to be the default parent, hence why they have less choice anyway. When a relationship ends, most time the man has the chance to a new life
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 05:58 PM
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I am just referring to what the OP stated, which mostly includes women who decide to have babies the sperm route way. They’re likely to be doing way better and also raise children well. You’re likely to have single mothers by chance even within the marriage community. That’s the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 04:44 PM
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The are women who are single and are choosing the path to solo motherhood, hence why they’re called solo mother/single mother by CHOICE. They also tend to be educated and high earners.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 04:31 PM
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I think it really matters, as I’ve seen the difference between the two. Single mother by chance tend to struggle more than single mother by choice. Single mother by choice usually have the funds to be able to raise up a child on their own. That is not the same for women leaving relationships where there’s a partner to which they’re sharing labours or even income.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 04:26 PM
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Does it account for single women by choice or just by chance? I think you’re likely to have women raising “criminals” when they are left with no help to care for the children. Women by chance usually have more things figured out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 04:13 PM
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They definitely are projecting
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 04:14 PM
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I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 03:26 PM
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I agree with the first statement, some do not like to be helped. It is difficult to help someone who refuses the help, and would rather have you dancing at their pity party.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 08:45 PM
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Sorry to hear that dude
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 08:43 PM
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I agree that people should definitely give it a chance because they might not be that bad looking as they think.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 06:45 AM
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Having children you’re unable to take care of is irresponsible in my opinion. But that still come down to choice, you can have children but if you’re unable to take care of them, you’re at fault. No one can force you to have children, or even to have many children. You should have as many as your pocket can fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 03:38 PM
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You're entitled to your perspective, and I value differing viewpoints. I acknowledge that the market naturally adjusts to job demands, but individuals aren't obligated to pursue specific roles. Economic pressures, like bills and rent, often influence job choices. Many adopt a "crab mentality," resenting those with seemingly easier jobs. In some countries, accessing government assistance depends on eligibility, with that often favoring certain demographics, such as women with children. This depen…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 12:35 PM
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Some jobs are legal, but that doesn’t mean people always do them because society expects it. Most of the time, people work just to get by. If they had better options, they’d probably ditch those jobs. Working is a choice, but not working comes with expensive consequences. If people could get by without working, many would jump at the chance. Where I live, some people don’t work much and rely on government help (men and women). They might try a job here and there, to qualify for government assist…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 10:46 AM
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It’s calm, it’s a debate everyone has their opinion. Your opinions are as valid as mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 08:26 PM
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I tried my best to read most of it, I couldn’t understand everything which I apologise for. But I still believe that you cannot put emotions on an app. You’ve mentioned LinkedIn, and if you use it, you’ll know that not everyone that applies for jobs is not guaranteed a job. Dating apps are no different, you’ve got a chance to put yourself out there, but the developers cannot control whether or not you’ll succeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 07:06 PM
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No, people can approach dating how they want but they shouldn’t put their whole emotions into the dating apps. That’s what I am referring to. Your life shouldn’t be affected by an app, and ruins everything else. That’s just my opinion, not justifying it or excusing it but dating apps shouldn’t control your life in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 05:04 PM
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Do you understand the meaning of luck? The definition would include people that succeed at something through chance, which in this case could be the rare heavy cash-out. Someone who wins the lottery would attribute that to luck, and the reason is because there are millions of other players who had the chance, but didn’t win the big prize. I might be misunderstanding but I don’t think dating apps are necessarily unfair, because realistically they do what they’re supposed to do. They are a designe…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 04:57 PM
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No, society cannot make anyone work shitty job, we work for survival because that’s how we procure our daily “bread”. Also, some jobs are easier to get than others and that’s because some do not require having a university degree or qualifications in general. Some people have to get these jobs out of “desperation” because they do not have any other means to feed themselves or family, if any. Working is also a choice, but it can be an expensive one. Dating or not dating won’t affect others as muc…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 04:50 PM
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It’s normal to be fair, as someone who’s always been single I enjoy doing certain things on my own. Even if the thought sometimes pop up or inviting someone along, I start thinking about the fact that they would delay or change my plans unnecessarily. That does happen but I guess it depends on who you date. You have to be able to be in sync.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 02:48 PM
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I don’t think I totally agree with the statement, men might approach the ide more while some women don’t. Also, we need to consider how some women will friend zone a guy even if they might have interest in them, and that could be for different reasons but mainly because the friendship might break. That doesn’t mean they won’t catch feelings, it means they don’t necessarily act on it or act disinterest.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 02:45 PM
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I think it’s normal especially if you struggle with self image and low self esteem. I’ve had the same and still do, I would literally say to myself that I should settle with anyone if I was to date but it’s not a good mindset. But that’s life, there are certain things in life we can’t control but in my opinion always date better people, even if you don’t feel like you’re the best physically, that doesn’t mean you should settle for what you don’t like. Improvement will always be needed, unless yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 02:37 PM
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Dating apps are not organic social mediums, but realistically any social media can be used for dating purposes. I never said they work for everyone, but they do work for some. It won’t work for everyone which is the reason why I mentioned that they do not discriminate. There are algorithms that are also used to show people with more likes, and that’s entirely based on looks. Popular people on dating apps will struggle less, compared to people that do not have enough to even swipe for free and ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 02:28 PM
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Is it? Or is that reality for some people? You can’t force people to date and you can’t force people to do things because from your perspective that makes sense. Considering also the fact that not everyone is straight (sexuality), would you force them to change that? Dating is a choice, and some people might want to date, while others won’t. Not everyone is able to get even a date, while others don’t struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 02:08 PM
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They do work, it doesn’t and wouldn’t work for some people. There might be different reason why but when you talk about dating apps, looks are definitely a factor and sometimes even what your bio say. Dating apps do not discriminate, but if they did they’ll probably tell a lot of people to do better with their profile.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 12:32 PM
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It depends on how you define lonely to be fair, some people are single but not necessarily lonely. Also, women are more likely to have friends to go out with and some won’t find it hard to have a “friend” on the side to satisfy their needs if really needed. The problem is some men and some women don’t necessarily do that, create friendships to reduce the risk of being “lonely”.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 06:57 AM
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I agree, I’ve noticed both parties don’t like the truth and get mad when they have to admit to themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 06:54 AM
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I agree, and that’s probably the reason they used coping mechanisms. You cannot force these things regardless so you might as well work with what you’ve got.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 06:52 AM
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Dating is a choice, and not dating is also part of having a choice. This means that dating cannot be guaranteed to anyone, therefore some people will view it as hard. I truly don’t believe when people say that everyone has their own person out there because you can’t promise them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 06:46 AM
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Exactly, although is still very important to keep care of yourself if you at least want to be approached in a social setting
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 06:42 AM
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Thank you, I’ve been saying this but they don’t want to hear it 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 08:40 AM
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Thank you! For me dating has been challenging, and I didn’t start until I was in my early 20s. People quickly assume that your standards are high or that you’re too picky. But I definitely agree with what you said, there are things you cannot change about yourself, and you do more damage than good if you change them for the sake of a relationship, even a friendship. There are things you can compromise with, but the general rule is dating involves another person outside of yourself. People are me…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 05:37 PM
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I’ve slightly covered this in my main post, it all depends on the options and also the type of interest. Someone who really likes you and is not settling because no one is available is also one of the issue. But as said, dating is not easy on anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 03:35 PM
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How do they have it easy?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 01:50 PM
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I think saying that women should have it easy when dating is crazy to me. Dating is not easy on anyone especially when you’re dating people outside of yourself. Options might be out there but not all options are good option either. And automatically assuming they’re expecting too much or have unrealistic expectation is not always accurate. I personally have never really dated, which might be due to my insecurities but also with the fact that is difficult to understand some people and they’re not…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 01:27 PM
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I think it depends on the individual, some people (men or women) have options but it all depends on who’s the option. They might not necessarily like the option, and what about the people that settle with just anyone to be in a relationship. Some people don’t want to do that, which is why being single in their case is the answer. While some people don’t care and they don’t mind getting married to someone as soon as they LOOK okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 01:22 PM
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Honestly
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 08:36 PM
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Submission is a biblical concept to be honest, if you’re not religious it doesn’t necessarily apply to you
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 08:59 AM
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They don’t have to date, they’ll always get the chance of getting asked out. Or at least a good majority
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 08:34 PM
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They would argue that having a relationship is a right, which is not necessarily true. I think we can still be empathetic for any man or woman who’s not able to succeed in that aspect, but I think the anger is thrown at the wrong people. Most times they’re dealing with issue within themselves, and sometimes their parents lied to them all their life. They just need a dose of reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 09:10 AM
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I think it depends, some people want to pay because they want. I pay for friends and sometimes even dates. But I would definitely pay if someone was hesitating to pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 08:59 AM
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It’s not your fault. I think you should give up or try not to engage with these people but you deserve to live your life and not be insulted
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 06:38 AM
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I don’t think most men can speak for all men because some will date anyone or even sleep with anything (literally, as soon as there’s a hole, unfortunately). They usually say I don’t care if she has no ambition but then turn around and ask for money. They’ll say don’t be fat but turn around and date someone who’s not very fit because “that’s the only option”. So, unfortunately it’s difficult to date the ones that are desperate because they don’t even follow their standards
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 06:20 AM
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I don't think anyone wants to be in a relationship with someone who seems really eager and openly mentions they've been on the app for years, clinging to speed things up. That's the issue. Also, many folks with bad results tend to lie on their profiles in hopes of getting a chance. If you check out most dating apps, there aren't many "good" choices. Most people there just want a shot, but that might actually make it worse, especially for those with low self-esteem. That's why some women or men l…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 08:42 PM
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That’s not always true, some are hidden accounts or not used
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 08:28 PM
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I don’t think it’s as bad as you make it seem, but it depends on the person. I think that once you’re able to love and put yourself first, you’re less likely to think like that. You won’t put others in a pedestal and thirst for any attention from just “anyone”. • I’ve travelled a lot of countries on my own. • I’ve stayed in hotels, hostels and/or airbnbs paid by my work or myself which I definitely enjoyed solo. • I’ve actually spent less on my own than with others, which might not always be kee…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 07:53 PM
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I believe it's abuse, but some people hide it by calling it maternal love. This happens more in households where the mother doesn't receive enough attention, so she pours her affection into her son. It's quite unusual.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 06:13 PM
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Know-it-all unfortunately are the worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 05:20 PM
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They’re married to their mom, I wonder why they seek someone else
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 05:16 PM
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I think it’s not just in relationships, but any person can be judged for expressing their emotions all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 05:09 PM
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Passivity is unfortunately something that will definitely kick someone out of the game, especially when it overtakes everything
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 05:01 PM
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I believe both men and women. That’s why these type of debates hardly end. Both can be unrealistic
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 06:56 AM
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The wall doesn’t exist, it’s a social construct which is usually used to put fear on whoever you’re targeting. Also, it’s in the interested of some for people to get married that young as they are usually very naive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 01:15 PM
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I believe some people are not as traditional as they think they are. I also think that a lot of people don’t know what it takes to be traditional. A lot of the things people do nowadays would go against most traditions.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 03:08 PM
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Where I am from if you’re a man and single, no one really tells you anything unless you’re making it a big deal
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 11:56 AM
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Being successful now doesn’t guarantee success overtime. That means they can still be guarding their back just in case, because things can go pretty ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 09:17 PM
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I don’t think anyone in this world can tell you how to spend your own money. If you do, you’ve got to be accountable
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 09:12 PM
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I can’t blame them. Even taking care of people children sometimes I am glad I can leave the “mess” behind 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 09:11 PM
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I’ve noticed some women tend to prefer their own space after a while especially if they’ve lived with someone who’s messy or child-like
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 07:51 PM
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I don’t think that’s accurate, especially when you’re single not by choice. And you have no options whatsoever
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 07:49 PM
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That depends on the person you’re dealing with. Some young women will only deal with old people if they’re getting money out of it, and that’s usually without them doing nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 07:44 PM
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I believe that in the past, stability was the primary focus. Unfortunately, it wasn't always easy to predict who would make a great parent. Providing for a family was crucial, especially back then when family was seen as a necessity. Nowadays, it's not as critical; it's more of a personal choice. Many individuals prefer to remain single, earn their own income, and have a support network in place, so there needs to be an additional reason to commit to a marriage or relationship. Being in a marria…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 12:55 PM
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I don’t think that’s entirely true, men cannot provide as much as they might have been able in the past because women can and sometimes provide most of those things. Men now are left to show other qualities aside from just financial stability or having a job.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 11:57 AM
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Read it again !
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 10:21 AM
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Dating is a new concept, but as said rejection is a natural process so if you can’t handle it, don’t date. Simple as it gets
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 08:32 PM
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Anger is natural, but that’s not a response to being rejected. Rape is also not natural?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 08:30 PM
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The problem is people who cannot handle rejection, I think those people are the most problematic. Rejection is a natural process in life, which can happen in relationship, job, opportunities etc. If you’re not able to deal with rejection, you’re making it harder for others
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 04:36 PM
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“There is almost always someone willing to date you. All you need to do is lower your standards. If you maintain a higher standard but find no matches in that range, you are either in the wrong market (geography, social milieu) or you have overestimated your own qualities.” The first statement is not true, or at least not for many people. That might not even be because they have high standards, it’s just not something they’re guaranteed and we should be able to have honest conversations about th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 04:00 PM
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It does help, but unless you’re attractive to someone you are not guaranteed a date. Therefore, the statement “someone will be willing to date you” it’s false and it might make it hard for people to manage expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 03:54 PM
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That depends on the individual, usually people are attracted to people that are attractive, and that’s “normal”. But that you have people YOU rate as non attractive or 5’s or less, that doesn’t guarantee a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 03:50 PM
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Rejection is a natural process when it comes to dating. There’s usually a 50/50 chance in dating to be rejected. So if you’re not able to handle it, you either learn how to do so or just don’t date. Not only do you make it harder on yourself but you make it harder for other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 03:40 PM
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That’s not how it works, people are attracted to whoever they are attracted. The only time that works is if someone wants to settle just to be in a relationship. But that’s not everyone of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 03:32 PM
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That’s unfortunately not true, some people are not willing to date you and you might never be able to find someone to date. In a world were some people have options and do not mind being single is a bit difficult. For your theory to be right, dating would need to be a requirement (law-level) but is obviously not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 03:18 PM
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I read your comment, and mine still stand. We still can’t assume that someone who’s 6 foot or taller will be mediocre, compared to someone who’s shorter than 6 feet. Your example still doesn’t necessarily justify your initial comment, the fact that he is 6ft isn’t the problem. I live in Europe, more specifically in England, some guys are less than 6ft and some are over 6ft. Both can have a chance, yet both can be mediocre or can’t hold down a job. I mean, I agree with what you said that you shou…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 03:12 PM
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But that won’t always be the case because the fact that you’re single, doesn’t guarantee someone want to date you. So regardless if someone is okay with waiting for their match, it doesn’t mean they’ll be open to date unless they actually find that
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 02:30 PM
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I’ve noticed that some people are not taught how to handle emotions and therefore when they get rejected, all break loose.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 02:26 PM
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If you have the options, who cares? Will they send the police at your house?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 02:20 PM
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Agree
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 11:59 AM
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I don't believe that women are against men finding success in dating. In reality, most people simply don't have strong feelings about your dating success. They might show interest if you talk about it and offer advice based on their experiences, but that doesn't guarantee success. The individuals who may be more persistent in offering advice are those who also struggle with dating – it's like the saying, "misery loves company." For instance, when someone wants to lose weight, those around them m…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 07:27 AM
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I don’t think we can assume everyone who’s 6 foot or more is the same as this guy. You might go with someone who’s less than 6ft yet still mediocre.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 07:02 AM
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Unless the requirements are unnatural, you can definitely find people who are tall enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 07:00 AM
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I've mentioned this before in the subreddit and received unwarranted criticism. However, it's the truth, and I've shared examples from my own family. Now, they enjoy more freedom, and some of them choose not to date, which I believe is perfectly fine. In the past, when polygamy was legal, some individuals would gather attractive women and discard them once their beauty faded or someone else caught their attention, moving on to the next person.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 01:15 PM
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I really agree with this. With short term, people usually go for looks rather than qualifies. Your qualities won’t matter if this doesn’t go past the relationship stage. It does happen, but It’s not a guarantee. It’s shocking that people are lying to themselves about looks because we know some people are settling because they can’t have what they truly want
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 12:56 PM
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The old days shouldn’t even be used to compare to the current time. Of course, look will and has always been a thing. Maybe women were less involved in that, but it was for men to go for a woman that was considered beautiful. Nothing wrong with that. Relationships are a want, rather than a need. Some people will be left out, and it should be expected
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 12:52 PM
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Make sense!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 10:50 AM
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Would you if given the possibility?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 10:08 AM
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May I ask what’s your definition of dating? And why would you lose interest. This is a genuine question btw 👋
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 10:07 AM
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It’s because people like that don’t have options, the only interaction they have is asking fantasy questions on the internet. Reddit is their fun space lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 09:20 AM
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Nobody cares, if you have the options you wouldn’t be here asking us. Go work on yourself and enjoy having a choice simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 09:13 AM
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For real, go outside touch grass, like it’s still green
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 09:12 AM
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Honestly, the people with the loudest mouth have never experienced anything other than heartbreak and reality. Yet, they’re the loudest!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 07:31 AM
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Good and water is a need, anything within a relationship isn’t a need but a want. You have to define your relationship. If you’re not getting what you WANT, you talk it out and just leave. Who cares anyway, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 06:19 AM
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Thank you for that honest truth!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 06:17 AM
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Attraction doesn't work that way. In situations where two women are having conflicts, one might try to be with the same man to assert dominance, but it's not about genuine attraction. You can't really control what you're naturally attracted to. People's opinions may influence who you find attractive or date, but you can't fake it. For instance, a woman might be drawn to a wealthy man, not necessarily because she's attracted to him, but more for his achievements. She might develop feelings for hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 06:16 AM
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You're assuming that the guy is attractive, but that's not always the case. I've had both male and female friends come to me with these issues. I always advise them that if they entered a situationship, they should accept it as it is. However, in most cases, they thought they were in a "committed relationship," or the situation was never clearly defined and turned into something they didn't agree on. That's why if you find yourself with someone who's attractive, just go with the flow. If somethi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 06:04 AM
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Yes, exactly my point. That’s why sometimes we need to give people a true dose of reality. TV series are not real 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 05:55 AM
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They must be acting for sure, or they were born yesterday because this make no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 08:49 PM
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The problem is that’s not enough for a woman or man to want to sleep with someone. The person would need to have something that can attract them, which can be look, status, and/or wealth. It also depends on the goal of the person, but sometimes someone who’s got the look will be reduced to just that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 08:49 PM
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Attractiveness depends varies from person to person. Preselection makes sense, but it has nothing to do with friends. Someone attractive will always have more people trying to try their luck with them, and that might include some people within your circle, especially if the person is “reachable”. Competition might happen when you’re not friend with someone but you want to prove a point of being able to sleep with someone. Like someone wanting to sleep with a model, a rapper, a famous person etc.…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 06:40 PM
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If you are good looking, there’s no need for someone to compete for you. It’s not rocket science, good looking people are attractive. That they have multiple women or men makes no difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 05:54 PM
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Bingo
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 05:49 PM
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Competition 😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 05:48 PM
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I am still trying to get an understanding of these set of people because are they just discovering these information
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 05:29 PM
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Being a provider doesn’t necessarily mean you have a domineering personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 01:18 PM
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That’s why I don’t blame people that have given up on dating or refuse to date altogether. This is an example of a simple question you can ask anyone. Only people who are insecure or have not gotten far could get mad at a simple question. Most times it can help break the ice. Do you get mad for people asking you how are you doing?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 01:54 PM
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That’s something that a lot of people are realising which is why they find ways to escape down the line
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 10:38 AM
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I can't stop reading this because I genuinely believe it's true. However, I don't blame anyone for thinking it's a guaranteed right; we're all dealing with the consequences of the past. We've also become overly empathetic, falsely assuring people that they'll definitely find "the one." I used to be one of those people because why would I advise someone to give up on finding "the one," right? But nowadays, I simply encourage you to keep searching, and if you happen to find someone special, that's…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 07:52 PM
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You’re talking about people that settle vs people that are okay not finding what they’re looking for
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 07:04 PM
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That’s hard, high school can be brutal
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 06:52 PM
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Damn I wondered what being a loser meant until I got on this sub. But good for you dude
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 09:11 AM
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This just goes to show how people who struggle with understanding and managing their emotions think.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 08:37 PM
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I believe the main reason people hesitate to take a chance on someone who seems uncertain about their desires is because it's a risky choice. You can't criticize them if you're unsure about your own wants. If it's primarily about sex, there are options to fulfill those needs, even if they aren't the ideal ones. Some individuals seek companionship on the side because they'd rather not spend money on what they could get for free, but it's also about having convenient access to both the physical an…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 01:25 PM
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That’s my point, we have to be honest on what we need. If you say you need sex, it’s everywhere you can actually pay for it. But if it’s companionship and/or genuine intimacy, then that’s totally different. But one has a temporary solution, the other doesn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 08:36 AM
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There’s a stage in life where you have to learn not to rely on people “empty promises”.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 08:23 AM
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They’re still pretty much focused on women they just don’t admit it. Nothing wrong with it tho
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 08:22 AM
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If it’s only sex, wouldn’t paying for it be a solution for people that don’t have access to it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 08:21 AM
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That’s true, and it reminds us that relationships are not accessible for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 08:04 AM
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I might not be able to change anyone's viewpoint, but I can confidently say that those who hold such views may have a problem because they don’t always have choices. The issue here is that people have the freedom to choose, and, unpleasant as it may sound, you might not always be at the top of everyone's list. Unfortunately, when people talk about a "nice guy" or "nice girl," they often have a specific image in mind – someone who appears nice, but that's not always their true nature. People migh…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 01:25 AM
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They can’t even afford it, that’s why they mad
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 09:32 PM
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That’s true. I am in a mixed group and that’s something that’s heavily discussed. Once you start throwing words you don’t even know the meaning because a podcaster said so, it’s pretty much game over. The trash takes itself out.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 08:49 PM
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They might not know it’s called “Red Pill”, they just get shown clips of men speaking and they listen
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 08:47 PM
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I work in the tech industry too. I've observed a similar behavior not only among young men but also among older ones. While they may not be familiar with the term "red pill," they've embraced a similar mindset. I've heard from women dating men who are hesitant to commit due to the current dating market. Some feel fortunate with their current partners but would hesitate to date again if things didn't work out. What strikes me is that they often exhibit similar traits—they speak and act alike, lac…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 08:40 PM
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I work in the tech industry too. I've observed a similar behavior not only among young men but also among older ones. While they may not be familiar with the term "red pill," they've embraced a similar mindset. I've heard from women dating men who are hesitant to commit due to the current dating market. Some feel fortunate with their current partners but would hesitate to date again if things didn't work out. What strikes me is that they often exhibit similar traits—they speak and act alike, lac…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 08:40 PM
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I work in the tech industry too. I've observed a similar behavior not only among young men but also among older ones. While they may not be familiar with the term "red pill," they've embraced a similar mindset. I've heard from women dating men who are hesitant to commit due to the current dating market. Some feel fortunate with their current partners but would hesitate to date again if things didn't work out. What strikes me is that they often exhibit similar traits—they speak and act alike, lac…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 08:40 PM
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I think that’s not always true. Not all women can get sex easily, and depending on how “good looking” you are as an individual you might have more chances.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 08:23 PM
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So, there's this whole deal with long-term and short-term relationships, right? In long-term relationships, people might not rush into sex, not because they're not into it, but because it's not a top priority at the moment. Short-term is all about keeping it short and sweet, no time wasted. Long-term, on the other hand, gives you more time to explore and do stuff together, at least that's the idea. If you're looking for a long-term thing, it shouldn't revolve solely around sex. Of course, it's u…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 11:48 AM
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I think they are but it’s because they have a hard time expressing their feelings. I don’t think a lot of them realise that..
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 09:44 AM
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They don’t, they’re just having a cry. They’re the main ones downvoting people for not agreeing with them
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 05:05 PM
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I would say good luck, you’ve got it figured out 👏🏽
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 04:51 PM
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It wouldn’t change the preference, to be fair
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 09:09 PM
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Agree, I believe they call it “green signal”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 09:09 PM
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MEN are not expected to approach, they approach because they have a choice to do so. The main reason is because they want to date the person, and some do not get approached at all. Some people will reject you, so did they expect you approach them? It’s a calculate approach, you’re wanting something out of them. 😂 If you didn’t approach, no one would question you!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 08:52 PM
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What I am trying to say is no one expects you to do anything. Actually people will not care, it boils down to choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 08:17 PM
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Expected by who? No one is going to put a gun to your head or my head and tell us to approach someone. It’s down to your choice, or do you approach anyone on the road because you’re expected to approach? Both men and women can approach, but their ways might be different.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 07:55 PM
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I think you can’t compare how people used to dress back then, to the current time. I cringe when I see my pictures from 10 years ago, and at the time I did not see anything wrong with my style. That changes as we go, and people do too. You hardly see people wearing the same clothes as they did back then. Dating is a choice nowadays , so you’re going to have people opting in or out of it. So, none of us is guaranteed a date and sometimes we can’t change that fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 01:15 PM
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I believe that some people might not have enough conversations in their day, so they come here and share the strangest opinions just to have more interactions.😂
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 09:22 AM
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The best would be create a circle where possible. If you have family, get closer to family and arrange activities with friends and family. A relationship might not be in the cards, but whatever you can achieve is better
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 09:00 AM
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Honestly, not everyone (men and/or women) will engage in relationships or have sex, and for some, it might happen later than usual, if at all. Unlike inevitable life events, like death, sex isn't a must-do; it can be purchased if one is willing. Relationships vary – while some may find love naturally, others may resort to paying for companionship, but the stress involved may not make it worthwhile.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 08:59 AM
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Men are not expected to approach, men are willingly approaching women. But women can and do the same. But women might not approach just anyone but instead see potential, although everyone is different. If women were to approach, the number of men in relationships would not get any better.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 08:50 AM
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The problem is some people can pick up on it, but worth to try.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 08:36 AM
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That’s true, white worship and passport privilege definitely put them in advantageous position. People from countries with weak passports are likely to be more attracted to them, some people are trying to escape and better their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 08:08 PM
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Agree, I’ve noticed people from small town are likely to say “Good Morning” or stop for a chat but in the city is not as prevalent. The only interactions you might get are homeless people asking for spare change.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 05:13 PM
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You can’t really know if someone see you as unattractive because it might depend on their preference. If you’re able to understand what they’re into, it might help but I wouldn’t say you being Asian put you at disadvantage. Put yourself out there, try to mingle with people without too much pressure and see what happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 05:06 PM
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That’s true, as someone working in the city, most people don’t say “hello” without context. As sad as it may seem
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 04:59 PM
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Okay, clap for yourself and continue being productive. Good luck sweetheart 👍🏽
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 03:06 PM
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At 7 AM, then be productive 😂 and stop getting emotional over my comment lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 02:57 PM
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Stop commenting already, you were not part of the conversation. Go get productive jheez 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 02:46 PM
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It’s okay sweetheart, no one is judging you 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 02:37 PM
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So emotional, and they’re plenty is crazy. At this rate I don’t blame women or younger girls abstaining from dating a
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 02:35 PM
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If being single is an option, trust me that’s the best choice for some out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 02:31 PM
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Unfortunately that’s the truth. And they’re not making as much money as before, which might affect it too
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 02:27 PM
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Stop getting emotional sweetie, time for bed 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 02:10 PM
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I commented once 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 02:06 PM
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It’s a CMV, you’re asking to hear people’s opinion. You might not like it but I am just saying
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 02:06 PM
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The same way you have an opinion, she’s entitled to her/his.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 01:57 PM
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People haven’t touched grass that’s the issue
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 11:56 AM
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Nothing wrong with cleaning your house, if someone finds you unattractive stick your middle finger and tell them to go f-themselves 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 10:28 AM
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I don’t condone lying, but I think the context is important in this case. People are making a big deal out of others not being completely honest about their standards and preferences. The issue is that this might not really be considered lying, some people don’t know what they want. Even if someone isn't entirely truthful about their needs, it mostly affects them and doesn't harm anyone else. However, it doesn't necessarily mean they'll choose someone solely because they weren't entirely honest.…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 06:27 AM
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Yes, that's a common occurrence, even though people don't always openly talk about it. This is why some individuals leave their home country and go back on their own. They might find better opportunities to earn money abroad and the fact that they speak another language can also make things easier for them to hide things.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 06:10 AM
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Parents will always support their own child, even if they aren't fully aware of the current challenges. Nowadays, it's tougher for people to buy a house compared to how easy it was for some of our parents. People may offer you encouraging words, but it's essential to know the truth and take control. There's no need to accuse them of lying. Your friends and family's opinions about your dating life aren't crucial unless they're ignoring significant issues like personality, grooming, or hygiene. Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 06:06 AM
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That's not a lie itself, but rather a standard that people establish. Having stability in life can make dating somewhat easier, but it's no guarantee for anyone. You need to consider the fine print; you're not a child anymore. Everything in this world comes with fine print, and most adults realize this as they grow older. For example, applying for a job doesn't guarantee you'll get it. Sometimes, other candidates are chosen, even if you're more experienced and suitable. You might even be selecte…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 05:56 AM
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What do they lie about, if I may ask?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 11:05 PM
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Unfortunately everyone has their preference, you might be that on paper but other people might have exactly the same. As soon as you’re happy about your achievement, continue on. It might not guarantee a relationship, but who cares, at least you’re not wasting life away
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 10:44 PM
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I agree, speaking to some people can prove to be an horrible experience that agreeing is the best option
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 10:37 PM
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Honestly, I believe that most people in those country can usually tell when a foreigner visiting here hasn't been successful in their home country (loser back home). There are a few exceptions where you meet someone really attractive, but that's not the norm. Most times, it's out of necessity, especially if the foreigner has a strong passport or comes from a country with better opportunities. I've witnessed uncles and aunties doing this, and it tends to work out well for them. They get off their…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 08:43 PM
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But that could be the truth based on what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 08:33 PM
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Being truthful is obviously better than lying, but it doesn't really harm anyone. People are choosing to exaggerate its importance. Teenagers, at their age, prioritize looks when choosing who they like, and they can be even more selective. The issue is that people struggle to accept this reality and make a big fuss about it. If we were truly honest, some people might have a tough time finding a date, possibly due to limited options. That's the reality we should be more comfortable with instead o…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 08:32 PM
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The issue isn't, in my view, that you have to force yourself to do things just to meet someone. It's like pretending to be someone you're not just to find a partner. If you genuinely like trying new things, that's fine, but if you don't, why subject yourself to that stress? If you can't naturally meet people, it's unlikely you'll meet them by doing things you don't enjoy. The government doesn’t necessarily care if you meet someone (relationship or friendship). Your local community might have eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 07:24 AM
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But even if they’re not honest, would that really affect men? I don’t see how it would
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 07:04 AM
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I think that’s not far from the truth but it make sense. Choosing the wrong person has proven to be worse than to remain single at least for some women. In the case where marriage has to happen, they would probably accept it but when you’ve got the choice what are you doing with someone you don’t want?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 06:44 AM
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If what you’re looking for isn’t available, you’re likely going to be single! Can’t talk for all women but they’re likely to be judged if they choose wrong anyway so if they don’t have good picks, they might as well stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 06:39 AM
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There’s a term used to describe some of the men that go abroad to date and it’s usually “loser back home”. Unfortunately, regardless of where you go, you might still take around those traits. Visiting countries where the passport is not the strongest and the lifestyle is easily affordable usually means easy access to the people in the community. I’ve seen this happen time and time again, for them it’s a duty and once they can get the passport is a wrap.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 10:20 PM
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Don’t think that would work. Some are choosing to be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 10:12 PM
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Thanks a lot 😄 and don’t worry I didn’t misinterpret. But I hope you do find what you’re looking for, sooner or later.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 05:10 PM
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I am actually a software developer, but I’ve advices enough people throughout the years. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 05:05 PM
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You have the choice to use dating apps, but remember, they can't guarantee what you're looking for. This applies to everyone. You might seek something and find the opposite or nothing at all. I understand you might hope your hypothesis is correct to ease any disappointment from not getting your desired outcome. In the end, women have the right to like who they choose, just as men do. It's a natural process, and it can be painful if you can't experience it too. I wish you a fulfilling life, wheth…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 05:02 PM
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In reality, both men and women do care to some degree about looks because that's just how human perception works. The initial impression we have of someone is based on their appearance, and it's only as we get to know them that we discover their personality. There's nothing inherently wrong with this; it's a natural process. I can't fault someone for having preferences based on looks when I, too, prioritize appearance. It can be tough to accept when you feel left out, but there's no one to blame…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 06:51 AM
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I observed that, and that's why I returned to my original question. As I mentioned, there's really no reason to complain, especially about dating apps when you choose to use them. If things aren't working out, you can either decide to stop using them or continue trying. Nothing in life guarantees that you'll find a sexual partner. Sometimes, we just need a reality check.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 12:11 AM
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My initial question revolves around the idea that if you find yourself complaining about it, why engage in it at all? You have the option to either not do it or do it. I acknowledge that it's minimal effort, but why the need to complain about it? It’s literally your choice to go on dating apps, regardless if it’s the only option or available tool you can use.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 12:04 AM
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That leads me to my initial question: What's the purpose of it all? I'd prefer to invest my time in more productive activities and come to terms with the possibility that a relationship might not be in the cards, instead of harboring resentment towards people who don't like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 11:53 PM
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If you're not putting in much effort, why complain? It doesn't really add up. You can't guarantee a specific outcome because people will either be interested in you or not. It's your choice to put yourself out there, but there's no guarantee of finding a sexual encounter or a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 11:45 PM
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So, are you suggesting that the primary purpose of using the app is to practice swiping with your fingers? Come on now, then why are people “tired” of swiping?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 11:38 PM
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I don’t think they matter, people either like you or don’t. There’s not always an answer to everything, I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 11:33 PM
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Culture definitely plays a part!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 10:08 PM
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I believe the first step for me is to determine what I truly want. Since I'm seeking a lifelong partner, I must ensure that the person I choose to date possesses qualities of a potential spouse. I'm focused on the long-term, so I'll actively place myself in environments where I can meet like-minded individuals who are serious about relationships. This might involve networking, expanding my circle to include responsible people, and working on self-improvement and career development. I'll also pay…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 10:04 PM
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I think someone who’s ugly know they are, society and surroundings will tell you so. I believe that you get to a point in life, at least in my honest opinion, where I would just be content with myself, being ugly isn’t a curse. Some things in life were never guaranteed, but if I can use the resources I have available I might as well use them. I can understand trying to understand the reason why you don’t get chances with the people you’re looking to attract, but it’s a waste of time. You like wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 09:52 PM
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Just out of curiosity, why keep trying if the odds are against? Wouldn’t it be easier to just not try at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 09:01 PM
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To be honest, women you’re mentioning don’t have to date if they don’t want to. Regardless of the options of men they have available. Relationships are not a must, nowadays they are a choice. Therefore you’ll have men and women on or off dating because they have a choice, or sometimes they don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 04:34 PM
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You don’t have to do anything when being single is an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 07:54 PM
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I can’t disagree, some are seen as burdensome especially after children are involved. People are likely to leave if the other person is just there. Unfortunately I can’t blame them, dead weight is usually the first to go
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 07:29 PM
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Dating is not guaranteed but attractiveness might help. I think this is a discussion that need to be addressed because it’s reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 06:55 PM
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I mean undesirable men are usually not part of the dating scene if they don’t get dates. But I think we don’t realise that that content might do more damage than good.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 06:49 PM
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I mean if she can shoot for being approached, then she wouldn’t have any problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 06:46 PM
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You killed it 😂 But that’s the problem, the desperation of some it’s embarrassing
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 06:40 PM
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I mean they can try, if it works or not it would depend on how the woman feels about the man. If he is not attractive, it might be more difficult unless he is the only person “available”.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 06:34 PM
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I think there’s an expectation when it comes to dating but a lot fail to realise that it’s not guaranteed. People will give you such advise if you’re clearly failing to date to cheer you up or give you an alternative that could improve your chances. But they cannot guarantee it would work. If people told you the truth, you might end up more miserable maybe, but it might make you more aware of reality. It could help you to plan life accordingly and maybe it might happen in the future or maybe not…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 05:04 PM
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I mean unless you’re affected by the situation, what’s your business? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 05:06 PM
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I would to be honest, realistically most people spend most of their life alone and even before dating they are “alone”. If you are able to enjoy your own company, as well as others company, a partner becomes an addition to your life rather than a need.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 07:05 PM
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In my perspective, being desired doesn't affect my life significantly. Being "normal" would give me more motivation to embrace life fully and dress my best. However, the story doesn't resonate with me because cuteness doesn't play a role in my connections with others. For me, forming connections requires getting to know a person without any expectations or feelings involved. If I were to approach someone at a party and they rejected me, it wouldn't hurt me because I see it as a simple attempt. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 06:46 PM
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I am referring to dating, that as much as this discussion come up there’s nothing anyone can do about it. You literally cannot force it, it either happens or it doesn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 09:17 PM
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A good personality can help but being attractive definitely is a plus. If you lack both, it’s a bit difficult for people to help. Dating has NEVER been guaranteed. Everyone has obviously the right to be upset, but not much anyone can do about it. You can try find a reason, but in the end it either happens or it doesn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 07:23 PM
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I don’t necessarily agree, it depends on who the individuals are. Some men end up falling in love with their female/male friends, some women end up falling in love with their female/male friends. It literally depends on the individual, you can’t stop feelings. If the friends is attractive it might happen, the reason one might be higher than the other is because some people struggle to build genuine relationships/friendships
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 07:02 PM
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I don’t think you or anyone else have to give a ride to anyone especially after rejection. Some people might need some time alone to process the whole rejection, and it’s understandable. Just be upfront and let them know. It wouldn’t be good if you start throwing insults or tantrum over getting rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 12:03 PM
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Although height might be a factor for some, it’s definitely not for everyone. Some people have no problem dating while short, and it all has to do with how people like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 09:51 PM
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Lack of accountability. Both side lack accountability but nowadays you have people reminding other people to keep accountability while not holding the same to that standard
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 03:42 PM
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Because they probably never were? Or maybe they’ve always been spoon feed? Think about it, back then you literally had no way to get your own thing as a woman, now you have more opportunities as a woman to get your own. Men are not seen as they used to be seen before so, unfortunately if they lack most of the qualities they lose before they start. Some are still coming to terms with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 03:29 PM
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It’s not an issue if you dealing with mature people
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 11:36 PM
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I would prefer someone who is not as experienced. They end up asking for too much
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 11:49 AM
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Pray harder 👊🏽 Good luck bro
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 06:06 PM
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This generation is finished. I pray for the children of tomorrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 05:54 PM
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Also, if we are talking about travelling long term, short term travel is different. For example, some of my friends have been able to go teach in Asia with all expenses paid. So, that includes airfare, visa support, accomodation and holidays paid. That doesn’t include food for the most part but that is sometimes covered by the school they teach. They might need enough to cover the first month before they get paid, but think about how much that is, if you’re going to a country that isn’t too expe…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 05:54 PM
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I am just hyping you up since you’ve stated multiple times I am trying to offend you! Which wasn’t my intention. I’ve stopped taking the conversation seriously since to be honest. I am just entertaining you as I did suspect you were young
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 05:45 PM
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Another brilliant comment from Oxford graduate. What else can we learn? Is water wet? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 05:41 PM
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You’re right, good thing we learnt that if it involves travelling, it can’t be sex trafficking 😂 What else can we learn from Oxford? Just having a laugh. Good luck dude 👊🏽
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 05:39 PM
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That’s the problem, it’s easier access but no one talk about quality over quantity. If you count how many of them are actually good, you’ll find most of them were one sided pleasure. People who are promiscuous, usually have unresolved trauma which can be from childhood (like rape, sexual abuse etc). That include guys and girls, it’s just more acceptable with one rather than the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 05:18 PM
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People don’t always have disposable income and still travel. You need to grow up and stop looking at cartoons. Obviously everyone knows that you should have emergency funds but some people are able to work for accomodation and food. Some have just enough money to get back home. Others have family that are able to help. Things happen. Although what the guy did isn’t uncommon, it’s the fact he didn’t have anyone close to ask for fund after going to the country to sleep with the locals. To specific…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 05:15 PM
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Common sense isn’t that common. Not all people that travel have disposable income, some don’t even OWN a passport. What about the recent passport bro that travelled miles and was begging for 100$ to get back home because he missed his flight? This happen more than expected. OP is good, but that doesn’t and won’t work for everyone and that’s just honesty. Also, OP stated the women he is attracting, different country doesn’t necessarily mean you’ll be more attractive. Especially with more and more…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 10:49 AM
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Where did he say who have the means? At this point you’re sounding like the crazy person you described! Also, he didn’t specifically mentioning wife but better quality women which people might date seriously or casually. People that go there sometimes go for serious relationships, but they’re usually older and a bit more established in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 06:21 AM
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I think it all depends where you are and who you are. I am talking from experience, which is the reason why when people talk about women privilege and how lucky they are, I CANNOT RELATE! It’s simple as that. It might apply to some but not to everyone and when you try to talk about your experience, you get whining kids that can’t handle the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 09:26 PM
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Also, the guy mentioned he is well off therefore he is able to afford to go and live there. Props to him, but let’s be honest, if people have been rejected in America or the west, there’s usually a reason why. Also, he might be of value due to assets and access to resources, which means he has better opportunities. More people there, more competitive it will get.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 06:50 PM
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Wait, who’s offended? Why should I make you feel offended? Do I have reason to? Am I being called out, from who? Sex trafficking doesn’t apply only if you visit. It can apply for long term and short term journeys. Where does it say that sex trafficking applies only if you’re on a trip, dude? 🤣 Do you even know what sex trafficking is? How old are you if I may ask, it seems like you might be younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 06:47 PM
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OP stated in the comments that he was able to sleep with several women in Thailand, to which I said cool. If Someone who can’t get laid at all, let’s say they afford a ticket to go all the way there and they are not as successful, they might end up looking for alternative solutions and the trafficking of young girls isn’t uncommon. Supply brings demand. People say it all the time, some girls look “more mature for their age”. You’re right it would be seen as crazy if it wasn’t mentioned at all. B…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 06:40 PM
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You mentioned America for a brief moment which is why I used it. Of course I was referring to America and some other places in the west for Asian, Black and Latino guys. Depends on where they go in Asia, some foreigners are not seen as serious in some places. White people have an advantage due to the whole white worshipping, like the dude can be ugly but gets a pass for the fact he is white. Also, they see the skin as an asset, even if old dude is broke. White men are just easier to date because…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 06:30 PM
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Wait are we talking about a boy/girl trip? Are we travelling to Antartica to see how different the weather is from America? Oh no, wait, are we going to see if they have penguins?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 06:14 PM
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That includes the old men, but it has a lot to do with looks as well. They can be attracted to them, but there’s attraction and there’s also stereotypes, which is the mindset I mentioned before. If she hooks up with you, it has nothing to do with valuing you, there’s some videos on the internet about guys that did the same and were left shocked when they were ghosted. The last part is understandable because I’ve seen it happen, although it doesn’t really matter because some people have parents w…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 06:12 PM
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It’s actually relevant because it involves going ABROAD, usually to places where it’s dirty CHEAP and get or pay for services you CAN’T get in the WEST. The West might have it more regulated than in other places. These places usually end up filled with people with no money trying to get anything for free, and that end up involving people that are also young. So many evidence online to the point some countries have had to monitor people coming for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 06:04 PM
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I didn’t say it based on your experience but in general that what happens, and I’ve witness since I was you g. If the shoes fit wear it, if it doesn’t why are you getting mad? I’ve seen that happen times and times again. They gain something off it and laugh about it with their people. There’s a way we refer to people like that, don’t know how to explain it properly. But if you say it around the people that know, you’ll get it 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 05:55 PM
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Because some people are still in that “white supremacy” mindset. Even where I am from, you have white person by your side they see it as a trophy. Not everyone, that has died down a bit but if they’re from the poor side that mindset is more common. They don’t necessarily like white guys, that’s a ticket to a “better” life until it’s not. But I agree, if you want to have more success go where you want to be picked. But the type of women matters a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 05:48 PM
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If there’s nothing wrong why would it be something that someone should be ashamed? I am talking about people that do which is relevant because someone people easily get involved in that stuff just to prove themselves as successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 05:43 PM
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I think you’re right that you have to be able to be in a position where you meet women, the more the better. But that doesn’t guarantee anything. It has a lot to do with looks or even personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 11:41 AM
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It is actually related because it happens often. It something I’ve heard many times and seen. It’s disgusting and shouldn’t be promoted. People might date internationally, but people that are rejected in their home country know what they’re doing out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 09:29 AM
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Wow, this perspective is good. I remember a video from Jordan Peterson where he talked about how women have more to lose in relationships, especially when children are involved, so why shouldn’t they have to choose better. There is so much competition out there, and I don’t advice people to consider someone who doesn’t have it figure it out. Nothing wrong with them, but you’ll get blamed for it, especially if you’re a woman. They’ll ask you why you didn’t choose better? Some women have to do bet…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 08:29 AM
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Not necessarily, depends on the attraction. Women might have a type but for someone who’s extremely attractive, they can change that. Some men as someone women don’t have options to begin with. If they’re able to get someone, they’ll settle until something better comes. That usually doesn’t happen unless they’re lucky or their status change or even appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 07:48 AM
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I remember the news about white men going to places like Asia, Latin America and African countries to sleep with children or young women/men. That’s disgusting and they still do 🤮
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 07:45 AM
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Depends on the asian person, that doesn’t mean they don’t like black guys. Even from where I am, the women used to settle with a white man because they’re easy to use and desperate enough to marry you. The problem is when they’re not rich enough. Some people still think all white people are rich, until they’re not. At least you can get a passport and move on with your actual lover
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 07:37 AM
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To be honest not all men work hard to get sex, the ones that do have a hard time getting laid in the first place which makes it difficult for them to be entitled to casual sex. It mostly has to do with not being the attractive person someone would casually date or consider for casual sex. Sometimes not even relationships. I have “friends” like that, they don’t get 🐱 but talk about it tirelessly. If they do is usually after a long painful process or just get the younger ones. I don’t think women …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 10:26 PM
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People in general are selective, especially when they have options to choose from. I think it’s better to be true to ourselves than settle for someone you don’t deserve. Not everyone desire the top 10%, because they can’t access them in the first place. How can someone truly desire someone they can’t really create a meaningful connection with? If they have access to them, some might go for it and hope for the best. But let’s be honest that’s not all women, and attraction matter a lot. Unless you…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 10:11 PM
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You create your options, and there are some options that come “for free” or as default. Like someone remaining single is an option, but it might also be enforced on them. Someone who doesn’t have options apart from forced singleness will act differently, and we see them on this sub and on the internet convincing people that they should be in a relationship before hitting an imaginary wall 😅 I never seen someone who has acquired freedom of choice, and regrets it. They might take time to adjust to…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 03:31 PM
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You create your options, and there are some options that come “for free” or as default. Like someone remaining single is an option, but it might also be enforced on them. Someone who doesn’t have options apart from forced singleness will act differently, and we see them on this sub and on the internet convincing people that they should be in a relationship before hitting an imaginary wall 😅 I never seen someone who has acquired freedom of choice, and regrets it. They might take time to adjust to…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 03:28 PM
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Yes, imagine not having a choice and being force to have a partner just to do things we consider basics like having a bank account or a house 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 02:32 PM
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I don’t really believe someone is unattractive or ugly, you can’t decide who you’re attracted to. That doesn’t mean the person isn’t attractive to others. I think it has a lot to do with how the person approach you, rather than their look. Some people fail to realise that some people DON’T know how to approach and they might approach badly. Their look is irrelevant if the approach is the issue. If someone approaches me politely, I’ll respond politely.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 09:13 AM
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I don’t think they ever tried to understand them, it was never required. It’s almost like a new concept to some because they try to use their parents or grandparents relationship as an example, but fail to realise it’s different times. The worst is when they speak on women biology based on what their primary school peers told them, and come across as ignorant. I think that’s why there’s this fear put on women to date. Although some women won’t care much, some will still have that fear instilled …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 09:01 AM
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When you force people to think the way you do, and they finally wise up, you can’t really fault them. I believe people have misunderstood women for a long time, they never really tried to understand them, rather they placed them in a box to act as the “women” they wanted. Anyone who acted out of character, was punished in a way or another. Now people are free to express themselves, some are modest, others are not. It’s a choice now. But the choice means that you don’t have to force yourself anym…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 12:14 AM
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I can’t tell if ALL women don’t like men. But if we think about how relationships were built back then, it usually started from a NEED. Men could do jobs, which will enable them to put a roof in their head, put food in the table etc. Women were not allowed to work most jobs and to own a life of their own. That in my opinion created this whole need of men, which is affecting people nowadays. That doesn’t mean women never liked men, but it made it difficult for both to truly understand intentions …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 11:57 PM
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There’s no general rule for women. Everyone is different. There’s some women that will prefer remaining single and living life, while others might prefer going out getting some “fun”, others might instead look for relationships. I’ve noticed more women around me not wanting relationships if their current relationship was to fail. They would prefer staying on their own. Others might feel more freedom after breaking off a relationship, which might enable them to have “fun” they might have been hol…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 11:42 PM
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Not sure if it still happens but when I was younger I did see that happening. For example, in my country some women or men would marry a white person, that would usually be older, and that would enable them to secure their tickets to Europe or the Americas. Not all are rich, but it’s a sort of stereotype that quickly gets debunked when they end up abroad.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 04:06 PM
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I agree, your partner will be grateful but it’s the bare minimum for your to clean and cook in the HOUSE you live in. Who else would be cooking and cleaning? Another would be when children are involved, taking care of your children is NORMAL.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 09:54 PM
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I don’t think buying flowers which is optional is the bare minimum. It’s a nice gesture, and I will always be thankful if someone gift me something. Especially people that go above and beyond. You taking care of your children shouldn’t be seen as unnatural, it’s your duty. Cleaning, cooking and taking care of the house is also your duty since you live at home. I don’t think you have to say thank you for things like that, but it’s still good to be grateful.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 09:52 PM
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Height: I am 5’2, so not very tall. I don’t mind how tall they are although if possible I would prefer someone taller than me like less than 6’3. Income: I am on a good salary especially being a recent graduate, I would say I don’t mind how much he makes as soon as they don’t have inferiority complex or in between jobs. Race: I don’t have any preference. Although I would prefer someone who is open minded especially if from a different culture. Body Type: No preference, although they should still…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 04:42 PM
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Most times it’s used as a coping mechanism
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 01:53 PM
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Agree, bumble has so much expectations but doesn’t deliver
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 09:12 PM
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You need to chill 😂😂 you sound so desperate right now. Your nerves are popping
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 09:09 PM
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Because you literally sound like you are 😂 It’s just a topic no need to get worked up over it. I just said if you can’t meet someone standards, demand or what else just be honest and upfront. Don’t be emotional and ask “what do you bring to the table”. You’re coming off slow and pressed. Bless 🙏
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 07:33 PM
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I am not talking about YOU (as in you), I am talking about YOU (in general). I don’t know you ao I can’t speak about you 😂 why are you pressed? Relax you don’t have to get into defensive mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 07:03 PM
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The question is vague and a bit dumb, that’s what I said. You’re on attack/defensive mode because most times you can’t fulfill those demands. That’s why it hurts someone. Why would you get offended by something if you don’t care about it? The fact that you’re implying that she aggressively verbalise the demands makes it even funnier, you’re choosing to become a victim when you don’t fit those parameters. Ask better questions simple. If you get offended after someone voice what they’re looking fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 06:45 PM
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Gaslight? Don’t learn words and throw them around because everyone use it. You change your argument from unfair exchange to offensive, which one is it? If someone is offensive, you have right to defend yourself. Although in your case someone saying what they expect in a relationship, isn’t offensive, you CHOOSE to get in attack mode. The reason why someone might feel that way is because they can’t meet those expectations and that’s fine. Be honest and keep it moving. There’s nothing wrong with m…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 04:31 PM
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But I am not arguing against that, getting in shape has its benefits and it’s good for YOURSELF. Although people around you might not care much, unless they’ve been there since the beginning and they’ve been motivating you to make the change. Putting in the work is good, especially when it includes your health. But working on your body doesn’t necessarily mean you’ll be attractive. It’s the same person, different body and hopefully better mindset. If you’re wanting to working on yourself do it f…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 04:25 PM
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There are different kind and not all of them are bad. Men and women. Someone who is single involuntarily will be much bitter than someone who’s by choice. But the fantasies are not real, and you are entitled to live in a fairytale but can’t force anyone to act on it. It does apply to both, and in most cases they both need to learn to accept the other because we are all humans and we are mostly living our life for the first time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 06:38 AM
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The purpose of the question that you just explained, makes me assume that the person is not mature enough to have conversations and if so shouldn’t bother to date. If you are old enough to date, you’re old enough to ask difficult questions. If you’re feeling like there’s an unfair exchange, then you should definitely say you can’t meet those standards etc. the exchange is unfair because YOU cannot meet it, but that doesn’t mean it’s unfair, it’s just not suitable for you. Why are you entertain s…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 06:34 AM
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And my post said the same, just because you have money, status and fame doesn’t make you HV. You working as a tradesman doesn’t mean anything, you might be comfortable but might still not be considered HV. What exactly make you any different than anyone else who’s doing the same exact job? If you’ve worked hard enough, you might be successful. But even success isn’t guaranteed. You are not automatically HV. I could rob a bank tomorrow and be wealthy, would I still be high value? 😂 The only value…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 08:25 PM
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I never said it does, I said that we cannot assume someone who’s richer to be worse than someone who is poor or struggling. Your example doesn’t prove that either of them are HV tho. One is stuck in a dead end job, but how exactly is he any different than any other person? The other has or we can assume makes money. You can have money, status and fame and still not be HV. But you have money so who cares. Now more people will consider hanging out with you, regardless if you are an asshole because…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 07:55 PM
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I don’t believe they are the same level at all. The old, bitter and alone men most likely had zero dating experience, has never touched a woman and believe anything on the Internet. On the other hand, a man or woman saying “where have all the good men/women at?” are reviewing REAL experiences not fantasy. The old, bitter and alone guys usually run on fantasy, which is why they are easily made fun of. It’s unfortunate but I guess everyone use different coping mechanisms. I don’t agree with men or…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 07:20 PM
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It’s not. A man working at Walmart might be worse than a man working as a lawyer. Saying that men that work everyday jobs are more trustworthy is just deceiving. They can be even worse, bitter and resentful about their current situation. A good amount of them view and call themselves failure, and if you date them they will tell you so. I know men who are close to me that don’t have much going on but they easily get women, and even women that don’t mind paying for them. I also know people that ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 07:10 PM
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I don’t think so too. You might have advantages on one of the departments (looks, status,fame etc). Others might not. I used to tell people I am sure you’ll find someone but I don’t say it anymore. I can’t guarantee that for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 06:55 PM
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Dating is a game, everyone can join but not everyone will get what they want. Attractiveness determines how easy it is
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 06:31 PM
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Okay I get it but some people are not able to get it at all? That’s what I am referring to.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 06:27 PM
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I am talking about the people that nobody wants to date. The old, bitter and alone men that turns to social media to complain about women they can’t get. I think you’re referring to something else. I agree it happens, but not as much as my scenario. You can definitely see evidence in this sub. There’s not a lot of Women that shoot their shot, but when they do they are attracted to the guy. The guy is definitely not weak in her eyes. The ones that complain are. And both men and women laugh at the…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 06:26 PM
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That make sense but wouldn’t it be better to just leave them alone? Apart from people who easily can attract men and women, If you’re unable to do so, why waste your time? Like, it might just be me but time is precious. You must be dumb to waste it 🤨
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 06:21 PM
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I don’t think a lot of them can, the same way they are sometimes unable to read the room.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 06:16 PM
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It does and I have noticed a growth in guys not being able to hold real conversations. They sounds the same, “what do you bring to the table”, “high value man” etc. They seem to be acting on the same script, they sound boring. Asking what someone is working on right now, their plans for the future, what they aspire to be etc. it’s more interesting and less broad. What you bring to the table is a kind of dumb question IMO. There’s no specific answer that you could give. If I reply back with I lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 06:14 PM
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The lawyer has money, if they are asshole they’re not high value. They are comfortable maybe. I think there’s also a narrative people like to play, the person who’s a lawyer might be way better than the person working at Walmart. They could both be bad, and both good.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 06:07 PM
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I don’t necessarily agree, I’ve noticed men that are unsuccessful at dating picking up on women they wouldn’t mind dating. The problem is they get bitter because they’re unable to attract them in anyway. They do pick up on the ones they find ugly, but that’s because they can get rejected by them as well. When that happens it triggers a lot more rage on these individuals. This is the reason why there’s a rise in social media gurus targeting these men. They’re easily manipulated and to be honest e…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 06:03 PM
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I think it depends on how you ask and what exactly are you asking. What you’re bringing to the table is too broad and generic. Ask what their plan for the future is, what’s their goal for the next 5 years etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 12:43 PM
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Agree, at least from my experience. I’ve had other friends do the same. It’s not always worthy. And I don’t blame women that don’t entertain nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 12:41 PM
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Yeah that’s exactly what men are doing, if not why would someone be interested in someone else’s preference?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 07:19 AM
1

Sounds about right
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 10:27 PM
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They’re not. If they did they will risk it all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 10:25 PM
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Dating is a choice not a law. So you can take yourself out of the game anytime. You’re welcome to join the dating game, but success isn’t guarantee to everyone. That you don’t get approached or fail when approaching, might make you rethink which is your choice. You don’t have to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 10:25 PM
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The truth does hurt
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 10:23 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 10:21 PM
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They’re not attracted to you
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 10:20 PM
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Where i am from the guys are depending on their sister for support. I guess it depends, maybe back then it was prevalent, but nowadays it’s less common for guys to have to take care of the family as a whole. Some people still live with family, I don’t think anything is wrong with that or for them to move out on their own. If your family house is big enough, you might as well. Family don’t act as husband substitute, the kind of support family provide is the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 05:27 PM
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As a woman who has decided that she would prefer staying single, I don’t mind rejection actually I’ll take that instead of someone who doesn’t know what they want. Being single for me it’s more easier because I am able to plan my life easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 05:11 PM
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Both sad to me but do what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 04:52 PM
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No, I guess it’s fine 😅 at least you did show yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 04:51 PM
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You can find someone good looking today and ugly not long after. And viceversa, you can definitely lose attraction to people. People don’t realise that there’s a difference between love and lust. You might not love the person you’re dating, but instead you’re lusting after them. Once they lose that thing you were lusting after, your interest isn’t there anymore. That’s why I am saying, having money opens door to more opportunities. You can pay yourself out of bad situations, you can pay for comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 04:47 PM
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What did I do? 😂😭
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 04:37 PM
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Yeah, like if they don’t say hi back just keep it moving. I wouldn’t get mad over a stranger I approached
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 02:38 PM
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You can just walk away, they will react how do they want to react, eventually they’ll get over it. Not everyone will say hi back, they should know and act accordingly
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 02:34 PM
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Personal traits are the real you. You can’t really be separated from your traits. But money can be separated from you, even if you own the money. People don’t want to deal with you as a person, but they might want to benefit from the money you have. The only way they can have access to that is true you. They might put up with you until they get what they want. If not careful even money can get away from you. But you are not valued, your money is. Have you ever heard of people getting killed afte…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 02:32 PM
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I appreciate the comment, and we are all here to have discussions. I don’t agree tho, looks matter, and it’s one of the first thing you are able to see about someone. Women might seek security for their offspring but do you think they don’t care about how their offsprings are going to look like? Or who they are settling down with? If they have options, they will choose someone who they are attracted to. Unless you’re talking about lusting after someone’s body! If that was the case, more people w…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 02:25 PM
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Most aren’t to be honest. You have money which people want access to, but they might not necessarily be desired for who they are
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 01:58 PM
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Money is the desire and the value people are talking about. Not the actual person. The people would not care about him/her if not because they could access their money, and most times it’s because the person isn’t desirable, but their money is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 01:53 PM
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If we go by the definition of SMV, you become more attractive when people see you with an attractive person. That works well with people who are able to get with attractive people and are somewhat attractive themselves. Your money enables you to pay to be entertained, if the money isn’t there sometimes the friends, women, men etc around you will disappear
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 01:45 PM
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Money has value and people desire money because it gives access to a lot of opportunities. But just having wealth doesn’t mean you’re desired, without the money you could go back to be unwanted and invisible. Someone who’s high value has something worth pursuing, they stand out of the crowd. By definition a rapist could be high value just because they have wealth, that just make the whole HV concept useless. Nothing of value there
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 01:28 PM
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Agree, they’re not high value they are just wealthy or have some sort of status. Someone with money that exploits people, would they be considered high value? We should call things what they are. They are valuable to people who lust after the same superficial things but being high value is more than just having money.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 01:20 PM
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Some people are not HV, they are just people that have money, status and fame. If you cheat what exactly makes you high value? Women/men shouldn’t expect cheating if they are truly dating someone who’s high value and not just wealthy with access to more women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 10:15 AM
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I clearly said it’s important to take care of your body and health, where did I say it’s not important?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 10:03 AM
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Hope you get there. Take it one day at a time
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 09:27 AM
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I clearly said it’s her business if she gets the man she wants. In general, people have their own standards, it’s nobody business if they get what they want or not
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 09:27 AM
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But it is their business. Standards are subjective, as soon as someone out there fits those standards, it means there’s possibility
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 09:18 AM
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agree
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 09:09 AM
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If they’re okay being lonely, it’s on them. Nothing wrong with tha
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 09:05 AM
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But it’s her business if she gets the man or not. Some people are happy to be single, if they don’t get what they want. How does it become anybody business?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 09:04 AM
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That would happen for some people regardless. Settling for anything would be worse
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 09:02 AM
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Yes good points some don’t put a lot of effort especially while dating online.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 08:57 AM
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If I may ask, are you planning or working towards that?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 08:52 AM
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In my case I’ve initiated most of my conversations, planned the dates, paid for the dinners (I had one dinner paid for me). I’ve literally did put in more effort than the guys. I think it depends, you put more effort when you are truly interested in the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 08:30 AM
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Apologies, thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 08:25 AM
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The men are not desirable if they spend time minding someone else preference. They are exactly what you describe old, bitter and unhappy with life. Someone that has a life would be interested in someone else’s life? That probably don’t care about them?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 08:09 AM
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I think my comment might have hit home, if all you got from it is that. Most people are not aspiring to be HV but they aspire to have wealth, status, fames and to be somewhat important. That is what they call being high value, although they don’t care how they get there. They are on their revenge plan, to take their revenge on the women that didn’t like them before. If you think about it, some of them if not most, are forgotten or unwanted by people around them. They usually have gone through di…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 07:43 AM
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Make a huge difference, will it instantly turn into an attractive person? NO! Stop deceiving people. Yes, we should all put an effort into how we present ourselves because we might come across more seriously but it doesn’t instantly turn you into an attractive person.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 09:13 PM
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Yea, if you want to change that might have to put yourself out there. I appreciate the fact you don’t want to be involved or pay for casual sexual, which is within your rights. Your age doesn’t matter, there are people that get married later in life. But if you don’t want to increase that fear do something about it now, take back your control
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 07:16 PM
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Okay, sounds fair but have you ever had a woman hit on you at all? I am asking because if you get hit at least few times a month/year, the chances of that happening to you will increase. If that doesn’t happen at all, you’ll be waiting forever. If you don’t mind waiting for a woman to hit on you and you’re okay with the chances of never satisfying that crave then you’re good. If you’re wanting to change something about yourself, definitely do especially with the gym. Maybe work on your confidenc…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 06:56 PM
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Taking care of your body is good but it doesn’t make you attractive. If you’re not attractive to begin with, working on your body will only help your body. Some people are attractive to begin with but when their body isn’t healthy, they might lose that nice glow and confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 06:38 PM
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I get where you’re coming from although everyone is different. It’s not pathetic to have never experience some of those things, you could experience them later in life as well although nothing is guaranteed. In general, attractive people will be hit on more than people that are not as attractive. If you dont get approached, and you’re not wanting to approach then how are you expecting the situation to change? Or are you okay with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 06:33 PM
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I know it might be frustrating but is it that important that you’re a virgin? It doesn’t make you less worth it. Focus on doing different things that you like, where possible. I’ll be straight honest, working out is good for your body and health but it doesn’t guarantee success with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 05:53 PM
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Women approach men if they are really interested in them, people that have not been approached are not pursued for a reason. You’re not liked enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 05:44 PM
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Glad it worked out for you. Although gym and being in shape helps, not just the out but also the inside work. Being in good shape does bring more confidence. But it has everything to do if you’re attractive, not crazy attractive but even enough to get someone to want to know you
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 05:42 PM
1

Mhh interesting 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 04:19 PM
1

I never said I am aspiring to be HV. There are people that are and didn’t have to work for it, it came natural to them. They are the good people, the rest are wasting time and are more concern of becoming HV to attract the other sex. I never said anything about you being famous, I am talking about you being easily forgotten about society which it’s probably the reason you’re concerned about what women are doing or their preference. It doesn’t include YOU. Some of you should use your time to do b…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 04:18 PM
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Did he send it? 😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 04:13 PM
1

A woman who wants a HVM has every right to desire one, that they do get it or not is their business. It doesn’t include you or any other person who society has forgotten. You can become HV but most people aspiring to be aren’t 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 04:08 PM
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Get off the Internet, if women want a so called HVM let it be so, it’s not you they looking for. HVM is a term that came out recently, most people aspiring to be it are wasting their time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 04:02 PM
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Most HVM don’t exist. You sound triggered.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 03:58 PM
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I mean it’s their choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 03:58 PM
0

But how would that become anyone business?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 03:55 PM
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A whole yelp 💅🏾
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 09:25 AM
3

Not losing, probably winning
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 08:49 AM
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They are still not damaged, humans are not cars.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 08:49 AM
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Hard pass, but you do you ☺️
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 07:53 AM
2

They want to have a point so bad they’ll have to go out of topic lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 07:39 AM
1

You’re making excuses, saying someone is damage good because they’ve been SA isn’t right.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 07:36 AM
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The lies 😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 07:35 AM
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I am not planning to date again, but this subs re-confirms my choice 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 07:32 AM
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I came to realise recently that relationships are a choice for some. I would not be any better if I wasn’t single. I think it’s true that having the right people around you helps a lot. I can say I still love kids and would want to have them in the future. Although I can’t say I desire relationships or marriage. Sex is another topic, I’ve never had sex but I don’t think I’ll risk anything too
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 08:44 PM
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It is. This is a cry for help. It’s a service simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 08:25 PM
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My first comment goes to you too 👋 hello. Safe to assume you’re not part of that 20%?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 05:14 PM
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This is true. In my circle, the girls have been given a hard time since very early. Everything they did was to ensure they will end up married. Like: - don’t colour your hair or no man will marry you. - don’t dress like that no man will marry you. - etc. They weren’t really “allowed” to date young but straight after university, people start demanding for you to be married and not too wait too long.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 04:56 PM
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Agree, the excuse is always but I am funny why no one likes me? But then again they are being deceived.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 04:35 PM
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To be honest, the things you’ve mentioned can be easily changed. You can’t force some things, but there are things that can be changed for both men and women. Men or women can wear high heels, but they can choose not to. I don’t wear high heels, but I can if I wanted to. If someone didn’t like me for my height, so be it. I don’t have to change for them. But I don’t like my height because I am a bit too short for my liking. Height can be an issue for both men and women. Women can be judged for be…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 04:33 PM
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I think that if no one cares about you right now, they won’t change because of this. But I am glad you can still be opinionated 🙏
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 02:28 PM
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There’s things that cannot be forced. There are men and women who are single and unable to find someone. The only thing they could do is either try until they are tired or focus on other things. The more you think about it, the more it will hurt in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 02:25 PM
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You said it girl, it’s annoying. Same topic over and over again, when no one was promised a relationship in this life. Some people get it alright, but some women/men struggle, doesn’t mean you have to use that energy to just hate. So unproductive
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 02:23 PM
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Madness 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 01:35 PM
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I came back and still the same. Most are talking about it when they can’t get women in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 01:33 PM
1

Or maybe just allow people to have their own choice. If they don’t want you so be it, shaming their age doesn’t do anything. Other people are still available that will be a better match.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 07:42 AM
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True 😂I’ve grown not to trust other people relationships or do any sort of comparing. The problem is people are more concerned on who is next to be blamed rather than trying to take accountability of their actions, and do better in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 06:52 PM
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To be honest you might end up in the same situation finding someone outside your own country. People adapt to their new environment. What you’re doing is just hoping to “buy” some love, especially in a country where some have dreamt of marrying someone from a first world country. Once they find out you’re below average, and not that special that’s when it ends. They’ll be in a better position to find a new preference. This is why some people find partners in third world countries, they’re hoping…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 06:50 PM
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I am glad you’re not like the rest, and not sure why it ended but hopefully you still doing okay 😌 You said it right, the grass ain’t greener on the other side.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 06:45 PM
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True!!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 06:45 PM
1

It’s still has to do with not finding someone attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 06:42 PM
1

The process can be the same but it might be way more competitive than ever. With the option of people being able to date even long distance
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 06:30 PM
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The people that have no money are the ones that are the loudest, just a discovery. Wanting someone who is doing well financially isn’t wrong, especially if you’re planning for the future. If children are involved it should even be “stricter” in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 05:30 PM
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Yes, although there are still people meeting the traditional way, face to face. But even with Tinder, dating has changed compared to before.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 05:26 PM
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Yes, I believe both gender should have self-defence skills. Anything can happen, guys get set up too many times.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 05:22 PM
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They are and no offence but there lies the reason they can’t get anyone ffs
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 05:04 PM
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Yeah agree, I wish some people would do that instead of looking for any possible way to chastise other people while not holding themselves accountable
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 05:01 PM
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Yeah that’s true, more women should even learn how to defend themselves, even self-defence classes could help someone in times of danger. I remember wanting to learn how to box because I liked it, but being told not to because it would make a man not want me 👋 yeah bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 05:00 PM
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It’s definitely different compared to few years ago. With more technology, easy access to travelling and instant communication is much easier to connect with people, which means more options to choose from. If someone was to choose a partner before they would have chosen within their community or circle. But now, they can choose someone who’s miles away which might be a better choice than what’s available closer to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 04:58 PM
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For real, they would rather keep other people accountable
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 08:26 AM
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I think you’re right when you say you don’t owe anyone (or maybe just women) help, the same way they don’t owe you a relationship. They don’t. You don’t have to get involved unless you truly wanted to, but if you didn’t that’s fine regardless. Someone else would still intervene. Life doesn’t stop at that, no one would care regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 06:27 AM
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Agree, the dating world changes every time. What worked few years ago won’t work the same now. If parents want to help they can set you up with their friends children.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 06:13 AM
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I think some people need to realise that some marriages are already going bad before someone fills for divorce. It’s mostly initiated by women, but there’s more that’s going on before that happen. Some people don’t mind living in misery and just walk out of the marriage, while some prefer to cut ties.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 08:52 AM
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Trust me, I think they mostly drive the woman to leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 08:50 AM
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It’s a desperate call for neediness to use a service as a way to PROVE women need men. You’re paying for a service, which should help you keep your health in track
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 07:31 PM
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Oh okay, although it would still be inaccurate as 20% isn’t a great amount, 100% wouldn’t be able to date only 20%. It also has to take into consideration women that date other women, and women that are single by choice
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 05:38 PM
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I agree, I don’t think I am able to always voice my opinion with some people. That’s why the only time I was able to explore a bit was with open minded people who didn’t care too much about their pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 05:32 PM
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I would rather go sexless. Even if you give a chance to someone who doesn’t get laid as much, you’ll most likely have them mess the whole thing up. That’s what happens when some people go for a long time without doing anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 05:13 PM
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But what’s wrong with that? Like if you can get something good, why wouldn’t you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 05:00 PM
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But what’s wrong with someone wanting to date people at the top or people they are attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 04:59 PM
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It is unfortunately, and it sounds desperate. You’re paying for service, you require assistance to check your health. You’re not going there to be dependent on any man or woman. 😂 Listen to your advice and take the L.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 01:45 PM
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Still not a NEED because you’re paying for a service and no one cares who give it to you. This is just a desperate call for neediness
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 12:55 PM
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It’s not irrelevant, no one pays for a medical service expecting a specific gender. Some people might be more comfortable to get treatment from their own gender, but that’s about it. Still doesn’t mean they NEED a man or woman in specific 😂 It sounds more stupid the more you read it 😣
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 12:37 PM
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There is no L here to be taken because there is still no NEED regardless. You’re paying for a service, whoever is qualified and available will assist you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 12:21 PM
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Trust me, how’s it that helpful? You’re supposed to go your own way but women are still living in your head rent free
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 10:07 AM
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That still doesn’t prove that they NEED them. In some cases the doctors themselves need to use machine to provide more accurate results, to ensure what they are saying is correct. Their company is relying on them to know what they are doing, which is why they undergo some years of training before getting there. But nobody cares if the doctor is a woman or a man, they just want to be able to get what they paid for. Unless you have a permanent disease, you won’t spend much time at the hospital. So…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 07:47 AM
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You’re relying on a service you’re paying, and you don’t really care who performs it. You’re not relying on the men there, you’re paying for a service. They could use a machine for all you care, which most times it happens. The gender doesn’t matter because in this case it doesn’t prove anything 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 10:28 PM
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There’s nothing like relying or depending. You’re paying for a service. This isn’t some man/woman hating thing. There still not a need here. The gender of the doctor doesn’t matter to be honest. They are an entity representing the hospital THAT’S IT.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 10:17 PM
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But the context is different, they don’t to be in a relationship to be able to provide for themselves as it was back then. You don’t rely on your doctor the same way you do with someone you’re in a relationship with. No, you don’t necessarily need men even if your doctor is a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 09:38 PM
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You’re not relying on them because they’re a particular gender, it’s strictly professional. For all you care, they could a tree 😂 They still don’t need the actual man, but they need assistance from the DOCTOR. Regardless of their gender 😚 Sorry, what’s the point you made that I’ve missed?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 09:28 PM
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Still doesn’t mean you NEED them or you’re depending on them. You require medical attention, regardless of the gender of the doctor. Nice try tho 🙌😭
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 07:47 PM
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They still don’t need them 😂😂 Imagine thinking I need a woman because the shop assistant is a woman. That logic is crazy, just give it up 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 07:22 PM
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Yeah it’s a shit show. I understand not having much success but acting that desperate and bitter, it’s embarrassing 😕
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 07:19 PM
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The statement is correct. I think the slut-shaming is used to justify why they are still unable to get laid sometimes, so it looks like they have standards. They just can’t get anyone to sleep with them
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 07:09 PM
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Managing realistic expectations of life sounds good to be honest, although you have a choice of doing what you want. It’s not as bad as before. You don’t go to university, who cares! In terms of dating, it won’t change anything as it’s a choice to date and you can still choose to remain single if it doesn’t work for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 07:07 PM
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They still don’t NEED men to be honest, you’re a doctor, your gender doesn’t matter. Men and women can be doctors or even nurses. If you get a woman or a man doesn’t mean anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 07:05 PM
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Change is needed in this society to ensure more safety but not in dating, changes won’t guarantee anyone a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 07:00 PM
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I don’t think they need men per se, they might need prescription from a doctor or they can also do without if not needed. I don’t think they care if the doctor is a man or woman. I’ve had a mix of both, didn’t care. I wouldn’t call that depending on someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 06:58 PM
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Well, to be honest your family and friends might love you for who you are. This doesn’t mean that you’re going to end with a relationship. No one can guarantee that for you. I believe that even if they said that most people, they will react the exact same. Because it shouldn’t make a difference if someone told you now, or before. You can clearly see it. People need to stop being bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 06:55 PM
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I personally don’t think it’s needed in this context. Society tells you to work hard and if you do you MIGHT be successful. Doesn’t give you any guarantee although some people are able to achieve it just fine. Therefore it’s not always a lie. But if you can’t achieve anything, you can’t really point fingers. I think there’s changes to be made but not in dating because no one is entitled in the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 06:39 PM
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That’s a lie and society knows. Not everyone will even get to that stage, and not everyone deserve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 06:32 PM
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I was giving an example of where this phrase is used. Self help books, videos and short snippets are usually the ones that will say so. It works okay for some people but it’s not guaranteed to everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 06:29 PM
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Self help books that still clarify that it works depending on circumstances. Parents might say it but then blame your parents not society. They might say it out of habit, but doesn’t mean they think it’s true for all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 06:15 PM
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Yeah I agree, usually being a people pleaser doesn’t end well for anyone, regardless of your gender. You have to be able to stand your ground if you’re going to “survive” in this world. If Marriage is the goal, it will not get better because the title changed from MS to MRS. Although I get where you’re coming from, I believe that as soon as there’s no harm done to others, then some women might also choose to be on their own. I think that as soon as there’s respect for each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 06:09 PM
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To be honest, society also tell you that they can’t guarantee outcome. Not everyone that gets to university will make it out, some will even drop out before it starts. Do you expect to be as rich as Kanye just because you go to work?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 05:16 PM
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How so, if I may ask?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 04:51 PM
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To be honest I agree and disagree with what you said. I don’t believe in using an entire gender to prove a point. I do believe there are people that will call themselves “good” but are far from it. I also think using that statement is an invitation to attract more “fake good guys”. Choosing the wrong or bad guy is more frequent than you think. Some couples have been married for years even, which is why years don’t define the quality of the relationship IMO. Women that have experienced dating the…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 04:50 PM
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I don’t think there’s any action you can really take, they need to do the work. The problem starts when you start lying to them and give them fake hope. That what needs to be addressed. But it’s a family issue not exactly societal.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 04:29 PM
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Yes, in the real world not everyone will have that opportunity. Doesn’t mean you’re evil or less wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 04:23 PM
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Still wouldn’t help the situation. Women will still date who they want to date. The best thing would to teach men and women that if you can’t have a relationship your worth isn’t any lower. Just live life. With access to money, adoption and much more i am not so sure some people will rush to get relationship that can end up being mediocre.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 04:21 PM
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I don’t think there’s a way to fix dating issue for men or even women. Not all men or women struggle with dating. Some people do, others don’t. If you do, you can run a diagnostic to understand the problem, if you find it then fix it. If there’s no problem, then there you go. Someone said it before, dating is an open market but not necessarily you’ll be “bought” or “buying”. If it doesn’t work, direct your energy somewhere else simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 04:16 PM
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When the people you go with lie about being good, I would ask myself the same question.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 04:13 PM
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I agree. If you can’t find dates, then so be it. Don’t need to be bitter about it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 04:13 PM
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It’s unrealistic to you, because you don’t want to mind your business. But realistically, no one cares and should care. You’re simply not what they are looking for, so you don’t have to worry. They know the truth and that’s why they join groups that lie to them once more. If you want to date, go out and date. If you can’t, then leave it. No one is forced but don’t judge others for what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 04:11 PM
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It’s unrealistic to you, and that’s fine if you adjust your standards. Other can do just fine. Also, some people will be able to compromise on some things like maybe they don’t have to have freckles etc. But that’s not your business regardless. It’s unrealistic to who? If you don’t fit, then you’re not the target is not rocket science. Like how some people lose sleep over someone else’s business? It’s no one fault to be honest. People pick what they want. And some people just don’t fit into it. …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 02:26 PM
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You can expect but if it won’t happen then what? Nothing is being lowered here, although I would agree it’s a waste of time when most people don’t even cum from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 02:12 PM
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Because some people can’t view past some insignificant things. They made a mistake, move on that shit wouldn’t phase me. Unless it was blown out of proportion
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 02:10 PM
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To be honest
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 02:07 PM
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It’s better to stay single then to settle. The standards are not unrealistic, some people fit right in, the problem that’s not you or whoever ends up being miserable. But that isn’t anyone’s fault. No one was ever guaranteed a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 01:56 PM
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That’s not necessarily bad, it happens and some people approach you to hit on you. Someone made a mistake, we move on
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 01:53 PM
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To be honest, if someone treat you lower than you expect you shouldn’t try and change your gender but you need to get the f-out 😂 Imagine getting treated badly because Susan that lives 35,000km from you is promiscuous. Sounds stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 01:52 PM
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To be honest, I think some advise won’t help some people in the dating game. You can try dating but doesn’t guarantee anything. People need to practice self love and adjust to the idea that dating might not work for them. Doesn’t mean they have to give up but they can treat dating as a game, rather than obsessing and getting angry when it doesn’t go well.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 11:03 AM
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True true.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 11:01 AM
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I personally wouldn’t fly over to visit a stranger not even a boyfriend. It’s stressful and you might regret it anyway. Knowing how some guys boast abilities and fail to deliver, I would rather keep myself at home 😂 I would say in my case, I’ve had guys that would want to travel hours just to meet me. I find it a bit crazy although I am not forcing them 😭 I’ve had friends who would say they’re home and guys would drive to them at anytime no matter the distance just to try and get some.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 07:13 AM
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I don’t think so, you can laugh at someone’s joke out of awkwardness and because they’re trying to hard, doesn’t necessarily mean they’re funny. Also, you being funny doesn’t guarantee you being laid. I think it’s more about attractiveness topped with personality and sense of humour that’ll determine the outcome. I don’t think people would just go with you because you can make a few jokes. But that’s my opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 07:06 AM
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I don’t think people see a degree and think rich, some people have “useless” degrees they don’t even plan on using. People that insist in you being degree-educated usually associate degree with stability. Or they might want a partner that sets the right expectations for future children. Some people make good money with owned business and/or have high paying job without going to university/college. It depends on individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 07:03 AM
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I wouldn’t have a reaction, it could be for different reasons which they know. Some people might keep it until marriage, while others might never had a chance to “lose it”. Not much you can say, apart from do what’s the best for you. If they can get laid, go for it. If they can get married, even better. If they can’t get nothing, it is what it is. It doesn’t define you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 06:59 AM
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I agree with this, I think blaming dating failures on being short is easier than saying you pretty much suck. People don’t take into consideration that your mind plays a big role in everything. Some people are pretty much lost and have a lot of anger/negative mindset. I don’t think anyone would fight to be with someone who’s like that especially when you might affect their lives with that negativity. There are people that care about height, but there are people that care about personality more.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 06:44 AM
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Trust me, there are few women that get free meals, gifts and spoiled in general but not a lot as most people think. Paying for your own meal is still a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 06:36 AM
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To be honest, I agree because just because you have tons of people around doesn’t mean they’re of good quality. Most times it makes things worse because you might have to politely reject a lot before you find something worth settling for.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 06:35 AM
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That’s good on you guys 😊hope you get where you want to get
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 06:33 AM
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I moved out for few months before going back home, not because of the money but because of always being home anyway. From then, I started saving hella money and had a fat deposit. Most people would come and ask me for money to lend them. Still living at home as I finished university last year and needed a job to even get a property. But definitely was the best decision. It really depends on the individual not everyone has that mindset of saving for the future or even invest.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 06:32 AM
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That happens with men too, they also get expenses paid by parents sometimes. It just depends on the parents
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 06:27 AM
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People that live at home don’t always have money saved up. It depends on the individual
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 06:25 AM
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It shouldn’t keep you down. If it doesn’t apply, let it fly to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 06:11 AM
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It shouldn’t keep you down. If it doesn’t apply, let it fly to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 06:10 AM
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She lives on her own so she’s living up to that standard. But I guess she’s describing some people and touching nerves
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 09:15 PM
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I meant to say that being bitter to people doesn’t make sense because they are not the cause of your problem. Some people might empathise with you, but not much they can do. But if you’re going to be loud, don’t expect people to keep quiet.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 07:10 AM
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No one has right to do anything to you, as soon as you don’t do anything in the first place. If you’re going to be loud, don’t expect people to be quiet around you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 07:03 AM
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Yeah that’s true although people who are unsuccessful tend to direct the anger in the wrong places. If you suck, have bad personality and you’re ugly is no one’s fault. Becoming bitter because no one wants to date you or you’re just unsuccessful at dating isn’t an excuse to be nasty to anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 06:27 AM
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Hence why I said they don’t tend to complain, especially when it comes to dating. They could be rejected few times but they don’t mind as much because they can get successes as fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 06:20 AM
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It depends on the individual. Girls are usually given dolls or others toys which are marketed to them. Society, and media usually make distinctions between what women and men can do. It starts from when we are young, regardless if we notice or not. Dolls are usually made to target young girls, never young boys. While adventurous toys are targeted towards boys. I grew up playing games and I still play. It’s not in nature for girls to like dolls, most times it’s just programming
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 08:10 AM
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The space seems a bit better than what I see on this group to be honest. They speak about different topics but it’s not centred around “females” and their struggles in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 07:18 AM
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I am planning to do the same, but you have to make sure you have the right funds and be emotionally and physically stable. Taking care of a child is no joke, you need to have a good support group around you. Make friends with other parents so you can get help when needed etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 03:14 PM
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They don’t complain a lot, people who are unsuccessful tend to complain a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 11:21 AM
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With sperm bank it wouldn’t come with legal implications because if done correctly the donor is signing away their parental rights. It might be a problem is you have a child with someone you know without a legal contract where they sign away their parental rights. Signing the birth certificate would also be a way to stop it but it’s always better to do sign a contract to enforce this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 06:09 AM
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Thats exactly what I said. People will end up doing what they want to do in this life and we can’t control it. The problem started because someone wanted everyone to have x and z, people discover there are better ways than just x and z. Everyone is different, not everyone wants a relationship and not everyone wants children, should we fight them for it? No!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 05:59 AM
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Both choices don’t reflect the ideal society I’ve talked about, therefore can’t choose. But you get the gist
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 08:48 PM
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Honestly I would prefer a society where people can choose whether or not they want to do something or not. I prefer to know people have got the chance and the choice to do what they actually want. O
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 08:25 PM
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Depends, some relationships start without causal sex but just normal dating. Some starts with casual sex then LTR. But it depends on the individual. Not all relationships end up with people having sex. Not so casual sex end up with LTR. There’s no rule at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 07:51 PM
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I repeat people should do what’s easier for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 07:49 PM
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Some boys have acceptable bodies, same with some women. If you’re talking big muscles then that’s different. But still some people are able to gain weight easily or slowly. Some people are able to get in shape quicker than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 06:51 PM
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People are doing it currently and we didn’t abolish anything. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 06:12 PM
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I don’t date friends they’re off limit
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 05:26 PM
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For some people it’s easier or not as hard. Some people might struggle because they’re not stable financially, mentally and are not able to control emotions. While others have nothing of the sort to worry
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 05:24 PM
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