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| – | "The ick" is an excellent example of how modern women encourage narcissistic self glorification among each otheri'm turned off by promiscuity, i find it revolting. that doesn't mean i think these women are bad people. guess how much pushback that type of preference gets from women in particular? just to be clear, i'm all for people being able to have whatever standards, preferences and icks they want but i don't like the inconsistency so many people seem to have in their ideas. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/26 07:34 PM |
| – | "The ick" is an excellent example of how modern women encourage narcissistic self glorification among each othermen just want to have threesomes i think. bi women frequently make terrible long-term partners for the reasons you listed but most men haven't ever dated one so they are just basing it off some fantasy about how they're gonna pick up unicorns as a couple with them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/26 07:32 PM |
| – | "The ick" is an excellent example of how modern women encourage narcissistic self glorification among each otherhow many of those are criticized by the very same women who have a list of a couple dozens icks? how much pushback is there on a societal level against male preferences for low body counts for example, or against women having male friends, or them being feminist? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/26 07:31 PM |
| 1 | If a person gives up their career to become a homemaker, they should be compensated for their loss of incomethose are the cases where people receive alimony. the financial compensation should be reflective of the opportunity cost that is incurred in regards to future earning potential rather than being about paying lost salaries retro-actively. plenty of women who become homemakers worked as secretaries, waitresses and other occupations that don't have much of a growth curve when it comes to income. they can still get back into the work force with very little financial setback and in those cases the a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/26 07:26 PM |
| 1 | "Preferred" Male is a much more accurate descriptor than "Alpha" Maleevolutionary biology still affects our behavior in the modern world, there's virtually no denying that. there's a reason why certain tendencies existed for millennia in all kinds of different societies and civilizations that had zero contact with one another. that being said, societal influence plays a major role in modern human behavior as well. the ratio between the two overall is much closer to 50:50 than leaning to either extreme although different aspects of human behavior can be influenced… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/26 07:18 PM |
| – | Paying for women on the First Dates is and has been for a very long time... Dumb.in other news, water is wet. different situation if you know the person already and are leaning more traditional though but buying random tinderellas dinner on the first date is some sort of socially normalized humiliation ritual at this point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/26 07:12 PM |
| – | Letting women pay for themselves on dates is a great way to vet and filter them.labor gap in coupled households is debunked by the american time use survey. do you have any data that shows a notable gap between men and women when it comes to total workload? or are you just conveniently overlooking that men perform more paid labor because as many modern feminists, you don't see the privileges you have while hyperfocusing on every single observable discrepancy that isn't in your favor. it's fascinating how you don't see the irony in calling men bums who can't afford to date f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/26 07:08 PM |
| – | Letting women pay for themselves on dates is a great way to vet and filter them.women put on makeup to make themselves more attractive and as a result get access to more attractive and desirable men. i'd love if women stopped catfishing and showed up on dates with minimal or no makeup honestly and i'm not interested in reimbursing them for deceiving me about how they look like. women already have institutional equality in the modern western world. men and women both enjoy different privileges socially and face different expectations, the idea that western women are still op… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/26 06:57 PM |
| – | Letting women pay for themselves on dates is a great way to vet and filter them.some men have more money than you will ever have and still aren't interested in paying for liberal feminists who want to pick and choose gender norms like it's a buffet with their interest being largely dependent on tangible benefits they get rather than finding genuine connection. and guess what, some men still get laid regardless of whether or not they do that but that might be hard to fathom for some people i guess. if men splitting bills are broke ass bums crying over minimal amounts of mone… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/26 06:56 PM |
| – | Letting women pay for themselves on dates is a great way to vet and filter them.why are men expected to put in one-sided effort in this matter? what effort is on the women's part? and please don't say putting on makeup for the date. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/26 06:47 PM |
| – | Letting women pay for themselves on dates is a great way to vet and filter them.yes, let me make equalizing investments for future labor with women i'm just getting to know, what a sensible idea really. if women use that as an argument, how about handling the finances a certain way once you get to that point? which by the way, most households do. men are more likely to be breadwinners and men work an equivalent amount of extra hours at their job relative to women's unpaid labor we keep hearing about (source: american time use survey). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/26 06:43 PM |
| – | Letting women pay for themselves on dates is a great way to vet and filter them.it's interesting to see how staunchly women here cling on to gender dynamics that benefit them while likely being liberal, feminist, egalitarian and so on (all of which should be in quotes at this point). yet whenever there's a thread about dating abroad, pretty much the same crowd will talk about transactional relationships yada yada, despite the fact that women in those countries are generally more traditional and in my experience don't tend to have these non-sense expectations we see on weste… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/26 06:40 PM |
| – | Letting women pay for themselves on dates is a great way to vet and filter them.it's kinda baffling to me that this expectation is placed on men on the very first date. he doesn't even know you, chances are it's not going to lead anywhere a lot of the time. it just sounds so performative to me and borderline pedestalizing a woman for the simple fact that she's female. i've been generous in my relationships, i prefer a more traditional dynamic as well although not full tradcon style either. that being said, paying for dinners for a bunch of women who are virtually strangers … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/26 06:34 PM |
| – | Letting women pay for themselves on dates is a great way to vet and filter them.on the first date, the woman sitting in front of me is not too far from a random stranger a lot of the time. also, how are women supposed to show that they're serious about him? and why should a man have enough resources to take care of two people, sounds like women with this mindset are the real bums looking for handouts. how about we normalize women cooking for men on first or second dates, that way she can show that she's serious and that she can cook which is of course attractive to men. dea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/26 06:23 PM |
| – | Letting women pay for themselves on dates is a great way to vet and filter them.investing implies a return and partner implies you're beyond the early dating stage - which partly boils down to figure out if you are even interested in the first place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/26 06:15 PM |
| – | Letting women pay for themselves on dates is a great way to vet and filter them.how are men supposed to know if they really like a girl in the early dating stages let alone on the first date? unless they already know her through social circles etc. that's incredibly unrealistic. we might like how she looks, how she comes across on a surface level and so on but everyone is on their best behavior in the initial stages and it takes a while to really get to know a person. some guys might not raise the bar but i was infinitely more generous with women i was in relationships with… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/26 06:04 PM |
| – | Letting women pay for themselves on dates is a great way to vet and filter them.it's interesting that you equate it to being broke. some men have plenty of money but aren't interested in spending a bunch of it on women they might not even end up liking or who might not end up liking them. or on women who feel entitled to their money simply due to the fact that they're women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/26 06:01 PM |
| – | Letting women pay for themselves on dates is a great way to vet and filter them.she wouldn't be. that being said, wanting a successful partner is not the same thing as expecting people who are essentially strangers to pay for your food the first time you meet. a man having resources is not the same thing as him spending those resources on random ass women in order to 'win their favor' or whatever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/26 05:52 PM |
| – | Letting women pay for themselves on dates is a great way to vet and filter them.there's a difference between caring about a man's finances and expecting him to spend money on you. a pretty big difference if you ask me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/26 05:50 PM |
| – | Letting women pay for themselves on dates is a great way to vet and filter them.there is no love in the dating stage and you specifically said unattractive in your initial comment. physical attraction obviously matters for both men and women and neither side wants to make themselves less attractive on purpose. attraction is important. if a woman's interest is based on whether or not i'm willing to spend money on her before even getting to know her that's not something i'd be interested in though. it's even worse if they're 'feminist' and 'egalitarian' but still pick and cho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/26 05:47 PM |
| 0 | It's fair to say that a woman who consistently chooses bad men just makes bad choices, and that they have a problem. In the same vein, if men consistently go for shitty women, you need to take responsibility for your choicesif you are not choosing as a man as well you just don't have any options by definition. even in that case being single is a choice you can make as well. no guys in my circles just went with whatever woman showed them any interest, they all chose their gfs and wives out of many available women around them - they chose who they pursued. plenty of them have rejected women who were pursuing them as well, whether it was upfront or on the backend i.e. not committing to something serious/long-term - be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/26 05:36 PM |
| 2 | It's fair to say that a woman who consistently chooses bad men just makes bad choices, and that they have a problem. In the same vein, if men consistently go for shitty women, you need to take responsibility for your choicesbeing baby trapped is trivial but a guy knocking you up and bouncing isn't? not to mention that some guys are literally getting cucked by the women they're with as well. is it trivial to unknowingly raise another man's child with a cheating parasite too? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/26 05:30 PM |
| 1 | It's fair to say that a woman who consistently chooses bad men just makes bad choices, and that they have a problem. In the same vein, if men consistently go for shitty women, you need to take responsibility for your choicestrue, plenty of men also choose bad women and put up with shit for the sake of not being alone and probably not having that many options. if you choose someone just because you don't want to be single or you go solely for looks or good sex, be prepared to deal with the consequences and don't bitch about it after and expect people to be sympathetic when the writing was on the wall all along. there are of course instances for both men and women where it's not really on them - even people without a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/26 05:15 PM |
| 6 | What do you do for a living?women go on about the history of female oppression and the patriarchy, meanwhile they live in the most comfortable time in history in egalitarian societies with equal rights, enjoying certain privileges like favorable treatment in courts and are subsidized by men on a tax payer level. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/26 10:38 PM |
| 2 | What do you do for a living?i'm not working a hard/dirty/dangerous job. my work is very comfortable but quite niche so i'm not gonna go into specifics here. no, i don't feel bad because i contribute to society. i don't care about who's draining the tax payer dollars personally because i don't pay much in taxes (i give quite a bit to charity though and i volunteer). i'm very glad that i get to decide how the money and work i contribute to society is spent and allocated. regardless, men still contribute more to the tax syste… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/26 10:04 PM |
| 1 | Men trying to speedrun getting dates in non-inherently-date-focused spaces ruined it for everyonei won't because they won't be backed by anything resembling a study i would assume. i included an objective source that supports my anecdotes you know? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/26 03:13 PM |
| 9 | It makes perfect sense to have different standards for casual sex and relationships and in fact, men do it tooconceptually accurate i think but there's another component to it. women can date guys out of their league casually and they often want to lock them down for commitment as well. that's why you hear women complain about situationships rather than men. men choose the 'marriage type' woman over someone they'd just hookup with - women often settle because they can't get the guy they really want to begin with. huge difference. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/26 03:08 PM |
| 2 | Most young women who appear to hate men in social media, don't actually hate men. They LARP as misandrists because it's the cool thing to do nowadays.misandrist has a clear dictionary definition actually and i think misogyny is thrown around just as much if not more randomly these days if anything. like women call men misogynists for calling out specific female behavior or particular subsets of women etc., for having certain preferences, for being anti abortion and various other things that have nothing to do with an inherent hatred of women as a group. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/26 05:18 AM |
| 5 | Most young women who appear to hate men in social media, don't actually hate men. They LARP as misandrists because it's the cool thing to do nowadays.tell that to the women and liberal men turning manosphere content into some type of national emergency. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/26 05:14 AM |
| 3 | Most young women who appear to hate men in social media, don't actually hate men. They LARP as misandrists because it's the cool thing to do nowadays.it's fascinating how comfortable women are to be openly misandrist when men collectively could easily strip them of their rights and return them to property status if they truly wanted to. i get that society is encouraging this stuff right now to create further divide because divided people are easier to control but still, you'd think if men as a group were truly that evil you'd be more careful expressing such opinions, no? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/26 05:12 AM |
| 1 | Most young women who appear to hate men in social media, don't actually hate men. They LARP as misandrists because it's the cool thing to do nowadays.idk about redpill but there are grifters messaging toxic BS to young women for sure. shera7, nazarenko or their queen thewizardliz for example (more youtube subs than most of the manosphere combined btw), plenty of dating podcasts, self-proclaimed relationship/dating 'experts' and so on. more than half of red pill content is reacting to that shit if i'd have to estimate and they never run out of stuff to react to it seems. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/26 05:07 AM |
| 2 | Most young women who appear to hate men in social media, don't actually hate men. They LARP as misandrists because it's the cool thing to do nowadays.factually incorrect based on objective data. ethnicity might not be the cause for observable discrepancies but you simply stated an (incorrect) observation so distinguishing between correlation and causal effects is a different topic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/26 04:57 AM |
| 3 | Most young women who appear to hate men in social media, don't actually hate men. They LARP as misandrists because it's the cool thing to do nowadays.all these lefty narratives to justify bigotry against men while maintaining the idea that it's not inherently conflicting with their supposed values. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/26 04:54 AM |
| 3 | Most young women who appear to hate men in social media, don't actually hate men. They LARP as misandrists because it's the cool thing to do nowadays.i'm pretty sure single in that study just means unmarried and includes unmarried couples. quick google query seems to confirm this, i cba to check the study itself right now. The Morgan Stanley projection that 45% of women in the prime working age group (25–44) will be single by 2030 defines "single" specifically as not married. Key clarifications from the study include: Marital Status Only: The statistic tracks whether a woman has a spouse or partner in the household, not whether she is romanti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/26 04:50 AM |
| 3 | Women objectively have it better than men in the modern western worldare you telling me that you would risk a significantly higher likelihood of something terrible happening to your own child in the name of equality? nobody is saying that all men are pedos or rapists because they acknowledge objective statistical realities. acknowledging reality is not bigoted and reality, nature etc. don't give a fuck about being politically correct and all rainbows and sunshine. this modern notion of equality and it's alleged inherent value and virtue really baffles me at this … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/26 04:33 AM |
| 1 | CMV: It’s valid to end a friendship if their dating success constantly reinforces your insecurities even if they did nothing wrongyou can do what you want of course but i find that to be a very weak mindset. i'm still friends with some guys i've known for over two decades at this point and in some cases we have completely different dating lives (married, single, casually dating), different life circumstances, varying degrees of success in multiple areas (dating, financial, athletic, other personal accomplishments). these guys are some of the most important people in my life, we have done and experienced plenty of things to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/26 04:20 AM |
| 10 | Men trying to speedrun getting dates in non-inherently-date-focused spaces ruined it for everyonethere is data that shows that women are more selective in casual dating contexts when it comes to certain traits like physical attractiveness. both compared to men and compared to their own long-term mate preferences. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40750-020-00152-2 women get to date 'out of their league' in short-term scenarios since men lower their standards in those same instances. it's more difficult to regularly sleep with attractive women casually than it is to land a relations… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/26 03:47 AM |
| 8 | Men trying to speedrun getting dates in non-inherently-date-focused spaces ruined it for everyonei'm committed because that's what i have seen with my own eyes for about two decades being part of various friend groups, having an active social life in general, living in multiple countries etc. - but i'm not the guy you originally replied to, that was my first comment just chiming in. if you think that access to casual sexual is anywhere close to evenly distributed among men you live in lala land. straight men can't get laid despite not having anything to offer, we're not female. women get to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/26 03:33 AM |
| 2 | What kind of personality do you like?i wish that was true, i filter out so many more women based on things that aren't looks related rather than the other way round. unless we're counting the fact that i don't date women in their 50s etc. the average woman looks pretty good where i live though tbf and i like pretty girl next door types over 'insta baddies'. i guess i lived in places where it was more difficult to find women who are attractive compared to having a good/pleasant personality that works for me as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/26 03:22 AM |
| 2 | What kind of personality do you like?humble, sweet, introverted leaning, warm, open-minded, rational, self-aware, kind, thoughtful, loyal, has her own opinions, intelligent, supportive, calm, respectful, empathetic, communicative, not hooked on external validation, has a team mindset, disciplined and not impulsive something like that idk. i usually know when i see it, i don't walk around with a list checking off every box. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/26 03:18 AM |
| 12 | Men trying to speedrun getting dates in non-inherently-date-focused spaces ruined it for everyoneaccess to casual sex is heavily concentrated on a small male demographic. it's not random average dudes who regularly get laid with no strings attached. not a blackpill looksmaxxer or whatever either here btw, just someone who lives in reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/26 03:02 AM |
| 11 | Men trying to speedrun getting dates in non-inherently-date-focused spaces ruined it for everyonethe casual sex partner doesn't have to do much and still gets access to the most intimate part of her. meanwhile good long term guy is probably paying for shit, putting in more effort and so on to get there - in a lot of cases she wouldn't have hooked up with him with no strings attached. a lot of the time the reason the casual dude is not viewed as a good long-term partner is because he doesn't want to be one for the woman he's hooking up with and plenty of women also chase after guys who only … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/26 02:53 AM |
| 1 | Simps have ruined the dating world.that's not what i'm saying at all but if what you do is viewed as entitled, selfish, hypocritical or whatever else you're going to be perceived that way by other people. i can go ahead and say that i can lie to women to get what i want, i can cheat, i can do all sorts of stuff that isn't against any law but is looked down upon by society. and guess what, other people will judge me for it and get to have their opinion as well and express them. if you think doing exactly as you please is a good ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/26 08:39 PM |
| 1 | Common law marriages should not exist and are legal scams and are unfair to menthe social obligation of giving women our resources? don't worry that's still happening through taxes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/26 12:53 PM |
| 0 | Simps have ruined the dating world.if that's the line of logic, it can be applied to any complaints against male behavior which is not illegal as well. i have a feeling that women who think like you apply this logic selectively rather than universally. kind of in line with the behavior i described to begin with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/26 12:30 PM |
| 3 | Common law marriages should not exist and are legal scams and are unfair to menamerican time use survey by pew research. yes men do less chores and child care but it's not 90/10. they also do an equal amount of more paid labor to compensate for that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/26 12:28 PM |
| 7 | Simps have ruined the dating world.how do you infer that? do you disagree with the notion that some men actually do pedestalize women entirely? i think you're just putting words in his mouth because that's what the post 'feels' like to you. i'll give men the advice not to pedestalize women any day of the week if they ask me but i've also treated the women i've dated well and with kindness. pedestalizing is a one-sided dynamic where one party doesn't value their own position at all in comparison to the other. this is something i'v… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 07:18 AM |
| 2 | Simps have ruined the dating world.i don't do that but that's what the thread is about to a degree - since a lot of dating happens through the apps (which i barely use myself these days). a lot of women online have the expectation that men should pay for whatever activity for various BS reasons. most of the women on OLD platforms are liberal and feminist so this stance seems very entitled, hypocritical and opportunistic to me in many cases. a lot of people go on a lot of dates before finding a long-term partner because you're dea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 07:11 AM |
| 4 | Simps have ruined the dating world.i already do what works for me and i'm not telling you what to do either. you asked me a question and i replied to it, that's it. i don't know your cultural context, i generally pay for dates because i make more money than the women i go on dates with as well (but they're rarely complete strangers and if they are i keep it to coffee or ice cream). regardless, i find the entitlement of supposed modern feminist women in highly egalitarian societies which most people on reddit live in fairly obnoxi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 07:06 AM |
| 2 | Simps have ruined the dating world.that's interesting - refuting someone's subjective opinion with objective evidence is mansplaining now? claiming that men are lazy and don't contribute is not about 'womanhood'. i'm not talking about ovaries, menstruation or menopause here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 07:01 AM |
| 0 | Simps have ruined the dating world.you are talking about very specific and uncommon examples that don't move the needle when looking at the average american household. the average data already accounts for all relationship types relative to their weighting and it turns out that the workload is fairly equal between men and women. for that to be the case there must also be relationships where men work more than women in total, otherwise the resulting data would look different. this is how statistics work on a fundamental basis so i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 06:44 AM |
| 5 | Simps have ruined the dating world.on the first couple of dates? i think it's very reasonable to do so, especially when dealing with complete strangers like meeting people off dating apps. most interactions don't go anywhere and i don't think whoever earns more owes a stranger anything financially. i make more money than most of my friends and they never expect me to pay a share of their bill when out and about - and these are people i've known for years rather than some random i talked to briefly online. within a committed and e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 06:36 AM |
| 3 | Simps have ruined the dating world.child care is included. having an infant is not 24/7 work and men are contributing in those instances as well, just less because they work more hours at their job. child care is very reactive and the resulting workload is highly fragmented but that doesn't mean it's constant non-stop work all day. calling it 24/7 work is just another hyperbole not based in reality whatsoever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 06:29 AM |
| 4 | Simps have ruined the dating world.the numbers i quoted are including both paid and unpaid work already, it's not the reason for a discrepancy in leisure time. first off, women in this sample sleep 1.5 hours more per week on average. the other notable difference is time spent on personal care and grooming - that's not something men dump onto women either. men's work is also less fragmented which allows for different time management in regards to leisure activities. either way, the general presentation on the topic going around in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 06:27 AM |
| 10 | Simps have ruined the dating world.what part of the OP made you come to that conclusion? i see him specifically calling out a lack of willingness to split bills and men pedestalizing women and allowing themselves to be used. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 03:56 AM |
| 3 | Simps have ruined the dating world.most women are though and that's kinda the point. from what i've seen, even a good chunk of the women presenting themselves as conservative or traditional are not women i'd put in that category personally either. it seems to mostly be a mix of modern and trad depending on what benefits them in any given situation, picking and choosing like it's some sort of buffet. not talking about you in particular ofc as i don't know you. regardless, would you agree that women who operate this way are inconsi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 03:54 AM |
| 0 | Simps have ruined the dating world.it's indeed not great that women apparently don't split the bill simply because they actually believe in equality and egalitarianism, even when they are feminists when it benefits them. it shows a lack of character, inconsistent values, opportunism and hypocrisy. now i don't think all women are like that but it's you who framed it this way to begin with. either way plenty of such women do exist unfortunately, i'm just glad that i never have to deal with them for any reason whatsoever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 03:45 AM |
| 3 | Simps have ruined the dating world.none of this is the norm - if it is, you should be able to provide an actual source. i've already referenced the ATUS by pew research in another post here and it contradicts your claim entirely. people who use statistical outliers to justify their hatred towards an entire demographic of people are mentally unwell and/or rather unintelligent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 03:40 AM |
| 6 | Simps have ruined the dating world.if paying for dates is simply liking the person you're dating it should be done equally to show mutual effort and interest, wouldn't you say? there shouldn't be a one-sided expectation based on gender, especially not from women who are otherwise feminist and egalitarian, correct? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 03:32 AM |
| 13 | Simps have ruined the dating world.is splitting the bill mistreating women now? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 03:30 AM |
| -2 | Simps have ruined the dating world.what statistics? can you link them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 03:28 AM |
| 2 | Simps have ruined the dating world.i've taken plenty of chances in life which paid off for me but that doesn't mean i'm hopping on tinder to go on dates with a bunch of rather random women while paying for it all when i already know it's not going anywhere most of the time. if anything i'm already taking a chance to go on a date to begin with, just like the woman who'd end up sitting in front of me. don't get me wrong, i paid for plenty of dates but it wasn't in those circumstances. when i hear modern feminist women who want 'ega… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 03:25 AM |
| 0 | Simps have ruined the dating world.women don't bring in half the household income and they don't do 90% of the chores either. men work more hours at their job while women spend more time on domestic labor and the total workload ends up being very close to even. that's the reality based on actual data rather than sensationalist feminist talking points that have no basis whatsoever. you can look up the american time use survey by pew research yourself for reference. Analyzing pooled ATUS data from 2003 to 2011, the study found that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 03:12 AM |
| 12 | Simps have ruined the dating world.if not paying for first dates is radicalizing women they already have some sort of mental issues. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 03:04 AM |
| 2 | Simps have ruined the dating world.i pay for dates when i already know that i like the woman i'm on a date with but it's mostly because i've always out earned women i dated tbf. that being said, women who go on dozens of tinder dates expecting men to pay simply because they're women are entitled and not worth anyone's time. i couldn't care less about their expectations as i'm not interested in them. i'd say play the game if you just want to get laid and it's cost efficient for you to do so but don't audition for women who think t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 03:00 AM |
| 5 | Simps have ruined the dating world.if it's the first couple of dates, how is a guy even supposed to know he actually likes the woman? especially on the initial meeting, that's borderline impossible. the woman might not even be interested either or lose interest before things go anywhere. there's a pretty big difference between the initial dating stage and marriage but even in the latter case, women who are egalitarian and feminist should pay their fair share and not cling on to benevolent sexism and one-sided gender roles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 02:44 AM |
| 1 | Preference to not date or marry victims of abusei think some women just live in a bubble when it comes to their perceptions of men, SA and so on. i've seen friend groups of women who's dating lives all seem like trainwrecks and i've seen the complete opposite, women who are married with kids and a body count that's probably somewhere in the very low single digits. birds of a feather flock together type of situation. if your friend group is going out to night clubs, drinking/doing drugs, engaging in hookups off tinder etc. of course they'll al… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/26 10:14 PM |
| 3 | Preference to not date or marry victims of abuseall of my friends view it as a massive green flag if a woman is family oriented, close with her parents, comes from an intact home and so on. some also think that the opposite is essentially a red flag and often comes with other issues. i don't really watch red pill content but even i have come across talking points in reels or w/e about looking at a woman's relationship with her family/especially her father. there's also the aspect that you have no control in regards to who your parents are but… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/26 09:59 PM |
| 2 | There is no excuse for a man to wait until after a woman is pregnant to tell her that he wants a paternity test.if you don't want to take my word for it you can ask any AI of your choosing whether or not requesting a paternity test fits the textbook definition of an accusation and get a hopefully thorough enough explanation on the key differences. i'm not going to copy paste it due to the subs stance regarding AI posts. either way, trust doesn't just exist in absolutes. even if you estimate the chance of infidelity to be under 1%, getting a paternity test can make perfect sense given the massive implicati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/26 08:00 PM |
| 1 | Most of the women who have difficulties dating are just low value as sexual partners.'women who have difficulties dating' this is literally part of your OP and the most common complaint i hear from women who struggle in dating is a lack of commitment from men. you also brought up commitment and directly tied it to a woman's sexuality in the comments (for example, claiming that when men don't commit, the sex must suck). of course women's value as sexual partners is mostly correlated with their own level of sexuality, libido and so on. that's not what your title says though and it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/26 07:35 PM |
| 1 | Most of the women who have difficulties dating are just low value as sexual partners.successful with women in general, aka men with options. they don't commit to women just because the sex is good because they don't operate in scarcity and can be more discerning while still having enough women to choose from. the reason i'm repeating it is because you've also said 'If they don't, the sex must suck, among other things.' in regards to men (not) committing - which contradicts the idea that it is only part of the equation. you also kept the OP broad ('women who have difficulties dat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/26 07:27 PM |
| 1 | Most of the women who have difficulties dating are just low value as sexual partners.it's reductive because there are plenty of women who are great in bed but struggle with getting commitment from the caliber of men they desire. as i said, it's a factor but not the entire equation and when it comes to long-term commitment, marriage etc. it's far from that. the idea that all a woman has to do boils down to a good sex life in order for me to want something serious is kind of absurd to me. i didn't operate this way even in my hormone fueled teens and early 20s and neither did my fr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/26 04:55 PM |
| 1 | Most of the women who have difficulties dating are just low value as sexual partners.you said it yourself, partly. it's a factor, not the whole equation. if you'd date former sex workers with BPD just because the sex is great i don't think you're making good, rational decisions in life. it sounds like something linked to a scarcity mindset, feeling like you have to lock down any woman who is good in bed and has a high libido while overlooking everything else. intelligent, successful men don't operate this way in my experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/26 04:43 PM |
| 2 | There is no excuse for a man to wait until after a woman is pregnant to tell her that he wants a paternity test.plenty of people trusted someone blindly and got burned - 100% complete trust simply doesn't line up with any statistical realities of our world and human behavior. just take a look at how many people cheat, people can be and are mislead all the time in the real world. in my opinion, the stakes are simply too high when it comes to paternity to not get a definitive confirmation, even if men believe that the chance their partner cheated is incredibly low to almost non-existent. nobody can determin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/26 04:39 PM |
| 1 | Most of the women who have difficulties dating are just low value as sexual partners.i didn't commit to women i had great sex with in the past, same for my friends. some men are capable to be discerning and not think with their dick. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/26 11:41 AM |
| 2 | There is no excuse for a man to wait until after a woman is pregnant to tell her that he wants a paternity test.women should tell me their body counts because i might not want to have children with them or even a relationship depending on the number (due to numerous objectively negative correlations). agree/disagree? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/26 11:34 AM |
| 5 | There is no excuse for a man to wait until after a woman is pregnant to tell her that he wants a paternity test.tell that to the hundreds of thousands of men unknowingly raising another man's kid. that's a very serious real life consequence, not some hurt feelings from someone asking for a paternity test. i think men should just do it without telling their partners tbh. that's what i'd do at least. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/26 11:32 AM |
| 4 | There is no excuse for a man to wait until after a woman is pregnant to tell her that he wants a paternity test.1) babies have been mixed up at birth at the hospital before, so no cheating involved. 2) a paternity test is not an accusation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/26 11:26 AM |
| 1 | Most of the women who have difficulties dating are just low value as sexual partners.but those other boxes are not just down to her sexuality, which is the point. a woman might lack in areas that are entirely unrelated, even if the sexual aspect is great. not every guy is going to cling on to any woman with a high libido who's a bit more adventurous in bed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/26 10:25 PM |
| 1 | Most of the women who have difficulties dating are just low value as sexual partners.leaning asexual detracts from a woman's value on the dating market - it's part of the metrics that are very relevant for men, generally speaking. it's just not the only metric which is why i think OPs view is reductive. women can struggle in dating for various reasons but if you want to make a generalization i actually think the most accurate one would be that they don't offer enough for the level of man they seek. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/26 10:22 PM |
| – | Men need to come up with an alternative to marriage.i think the best way to protect your assets is to not have shared assets to begin with. i never had a joint bank account with any of my ex gfs, the idea seems absurd to me if anything even if that is technically a possibility. you can protect premarital assets in a marriage but you can't protect your income generated during marriage in the same way. how many people out there do you hear complaining about losing their assets after breakups compared to divorces? unless they're from a state with st… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/26 02:47 PM |
| – | Men need to come up with an alternative to marriage.find a different woman/relationship once you get to that point then, if that's your main concern. people tend to have less sex the longer they are together so serial monogamy seems like a much better bet than anything resembling marriage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/26 02:42 PM |
| 3 | Men need to come up with an alternative to marriage.i'll tell you a secret, that type of guy is often not gonna get laid much once he's married either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/26 02:27 PM |
| – | Men need to come up with an alternative to marriage.who tf gets impressed by someone being married in 2026? like half the population can achieve that at least, if that's what you need to impress people you have other issues i think. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/26 02:19 PM |
| 4 | Women care about personality but only if they know you for some timei mean women use dozens of products to artificially inflate their looks, some get cosmetic surgeries etc. take that away to level the playing field and this is no longer the case. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/26 05:41 PM |
| 2 | Believing a 50/50 man will step up later isn’t just naive - it’s riskymen have more realistic standards and expectations, i know. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/26 12:13 PM |
| 3 | Believing a 50/50 man will step up later isn’t just naive - it’s riskyher stellar female intuition must have malfunctioned for some reason. mysteries of the universe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/26 12:09 PM |
| 5 | Believing a 50/50 man will step up later isn’t just naive - it’s riskysingle mom on tiktok who had children out of wedlock made some bad decisions, more news at 11. who knows how much of it is exaggerated for clicks and sympathy too, we certainly don't know the real/full story. the idea in 50/50 relationships is that both people contribute. it doesn't have to be as rigid as splitting every penny down the middle and it generally covers other contributions to the relationship and household as well. taking on a pregnancy and all it's implications is obviously a very … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/26 10:36 PM |
| 2 | Believing a 50/50 man will step up later isn’t just naive - it’s riskythey also make more money and work more hours at their job. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/26 10:15 PM |
| 6 | Believing a 50/50 man will step up later isn’t just naive - it’s riskywell it's not like most women are the full package either. if staying single is the better alternative for women who are not interested in dating men on their level, that's okay ofc. others are more realistic and recognize that they're not god's gift to mankind so they adjust their expectations accordingly if they value long-term companionship, having a family etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/26 10:07 PM |
| 2 | Most men give their attention so freely to women that it doesn't mean anything to them anymore.you can stand out by not being a desperate simp, at least if you have some attractive qualities that catch a woman's eye in the first place. a lot of attractive women think that the guys who shower them with compliments for no reason and put them on a pedestal are losers. if a woman likes you and you're the only man in her orbit not treating her like a queen for simply existing, you might end up being the guy with the best odds of getting somewhere. sure, not with every woman ofc and if you have… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/26 08:07 PM |
| 2 | Men choose the wrong women for ltr or marriageyou should look up the actual in-depth definition of the term because it is in fact overused. as i said, men rejecting promiscuous women for long-term commitment is not fitting the definition by itself (not even close) and the full description of the concept does not apply to the vast majority of men. liberal feminists like to cherry pick the parts that suit their ideology to demonize normal male behavior that has been observed cross culturally for millennia. the idea that women who only have se… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/26 01:06 AM |
| 0 | Men choose the wrong women for ltr or marriageobviously that exists too, that's why i said 'in part'. but a lot of it is simply two different groups of men holding opposing beliefs, we're not a hivemind after all. of course hypocrites of all genders exist, that's not something anyone would dispute but you specifically said 'the men of this subreddit' and that's clearly an overgeneralization. just be honest and not manipulative if that's what you expect from other people, that's my main point. i think the approach outlined in OP is toxic and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/26 12:44 AM |
| 2 | Men choose the wrong women for ltr or marriagemy dating history is pretty much split 50:50 between casual and LTRs (not interested in marriage). i'm generally open to either dynamic depending on factors like compatibility and the bar for casual relationships is definitely different/lower - but i don't base my decision on who sleeps with me on the first date and who doesn't. one of my exes slept with me on the first date and some casual situations took more time to develop. manipulative behavior and transactional approaches to dating are def… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 10:35 PM |
| 2 | Men choose the wrong women for ltr or marriagei think part of this is just a goomba fallacy honestly but when it comes to this topic what i see mostly are men calling out women who make certain men wait in a strategic manner while not operating the same way with the men they truly desire. that feels like getting the short end of the stick and transactional as well as manipulative. i don't care whether or not a particular woman waits for sex or not, that's not what i'm talking about at all. women should do whatever they want in this respect … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 10:25 PM |
| 1 | Men choose the wrong women for ltr or marriagethe term is overused in today's discourse to begin with. a guy who isn't interested in long-term relationships with women who are promiscuous doesn't have a madonna-whore complex. that's not what freud talked about or how he defined it. a fundamental part of the concept is that men are unable to or struggle with feeling desire for women they are emotionally attached to. this is not the case for the vast majority of men who simply show a certain level of discernment when it comes to long-term par… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 10:16 PM |
| 0 | What Tactics/Tips do you Follow to get Women?when you meet someone you don't know that well, he probably has to make you feel comfortable, create good conversation, be funny/witty, interesting and so on (not necessarily everything but these things matter to build attraction in general). if you like a guy at first glance but he just sits there boring you to death i doubt you'll be interested by the end of the date. sure, if you already know the person relatively well (through social circles, school/college etc.) the burden of performance is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 10:07 PM |
| 1 | Men choose the wrong women for ltr or marriagehuman sexuality is asymmetrical so i don't see the hypocrisy personally. having sex indiscriminately is not the same for women and men and neither is our biological wiring that influences our long-term mate selection. that doesn't mean it's good for men and bad for women but it's simply not the same based on objective biological factors so why should people be expected to view it the same way? because of some modern deluded notion of equality at all costs? but either way - does it mean that it's… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 09:17 PM |
| 0 | Men choose the wrong women for ltr or marriageyes, men have baggage too but that doesn't mean that baggage is an attractive quality in a romantic partner - in particular baggage relating to dating/sex. what level of baggage people 'tolerate' is up to them and depends on their own age/life circumstances etc. of course. it has nothing to do with wanting to 'control innocent minds' though (exceptions exist), it's just not an attractive quality but rather a net-negative. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 09:03 PM |
| 3 | Men choose the wrong women for ltr or marriageplaying these games and trying to 'sell' guys a false sense of purity or w/e you wanna call it by deliberately behaving a certain way (for example making them wait for sex) specifically to manipulate them into a relationship/commitment is loser behavior and not too different from men lying about their intentions to get women into bed. just be yourself and find men who like who you are, it's really not that complicated. i promise you, plenty of guys have no issue with women who have sex early on … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 08:41 PM |
| 12 | Women Aren't Playing the Victim. Red Pill Men Don't Understand Consent.what exactly constitutes a vulnerable position? how would you objectively define it because i think it's pretty subjective and relative. also who decides why a man might seek out a particular woman and what his exact intent is behind the interaction? let's say i'm living in thailand or latin america - how do you think i should ethically go about dating as a western man? am i inherently leveraging socioeconomic status and power by interacting with any local women? are they unable to consent? what… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 02:34 PM |
| – | Women Can't Be "Used" For Sex If They Consented. That's Feminist Victim Mentality Rhetoric.if a man deliberately deceives a woman to get her to sleep with him, i think it's valid for her to feel used after. that's not always what happens though. sometimes a guy might look for a relationship but decide that a particular woman isn't for him some time after they have sex. or a woman might enter a casual dating dynamic willingly in hopes that a guy will change his mind at some point. in these kind of cases you can't blame the guy for any wrong doing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 10:50 AM |
| 1 | People who clown on age gap relationships are toxicthe issue is that nothing in the comment you replied to indicated intentionally seeking out financial discrepancies because they create leverage. yes, financial differences in relationships do have an impact. no, it's not in any way something that can be considered 'rapey'. i didn't dismiss sociological concepts, i dismissed the way you frame and apply them. coercive control exists but that doesn't mean it's inherent to relationships with financial imbalances. the issue i have is entirely down t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 11:56 PM |
| 1 | SAHMs should Unionizei am not arguing against compensation, i am arguing against the idea that it should be half of the earning potential of their ex husband. instead it should be proportional to the opportunity cost they incurred by virtue of being a SAHM, that's it. if a man is a CEO and marries a woman working as a secretary, she should not be entitled to half of a CEOs salary in the case of divorce. she can still work as a secretary, maybe earning a bit less than she would otherwise and the compensation should b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 11:44 PM |
| 1 | SAHMs should Unionizeno it's not indentured servitude. there is no legal contract, women can choose to end the arrangement at any time and in the case of divorce (or breakup in jurisdictions recognizing common law marriage) they are entitled to marital assets and potential alimony. calling it indentured servitude is misguided feminist commentary not even understanding the basic terms they are using. birthrates falling further is not my problem to fix and it's debatable how big of a problem it is in the first place. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 11:31 PM |
| 1 | SAHMs should Unionizethe reason for alimony being uncommon is that most women work rather than being stay at home moms in the first place. it's significantly more common when women are SAHMs. and why should women receive compensation equal to half the man's earning potential? are they providing any services to their ex husbands after separation? are they unable to work entirely after a divorce? would their earning potential be equal to their husband's if they didn't take on the role of SAHM? what makes them entitled… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 11:23 PM |
| 2 | SAHMs should Unionizethere is no threat because this will never happen in the first place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 11:11 PM |
| 8 | SAHMs should Unionizethe benefit of being a SAHM is that you don't have to do any paid labor and that somebody pays your bills and expenses instead. the idea that men should pay SAHMs a salary on top of these financial benefits is quite frankly ridiculous. if you don't like this arrangement, nobody is forcing you into it - you can simply get a job. not to mention that them staying 'somewhere else' is not feasible logistically whatsoever. where are they going to stay? you mentioned 'with other women' or other people … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 11:09 PM |
| 1 | People who clown on age gap relationships are toxicthe person i replied to said that guys dating 18-19 year olds would go younger if they could and i responded to that - saying that they already can date younger based on laws in most western jurisdictions. so no, i'm not the person who made the original generalization here. some men are attracted to 16 year olds but it's uncommon - that's not my opinion by the way, that's literally what the scientific classification of such cases defines it as (paraphilia). my point about adult actresses is enti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 10:57 PM |
| 1 | People who clown on age gap relationships are toxici didn't say sociology is a modern liberal delusion but please point me to any of your sources that use the term rapey and how it applies to men dating down socio-economically in a general matter - i'll wait. if you make a claim and then provide sources that don't substantiate your claim but talk about concepts in a more abstract and less definitive matter, it's not exactly what makes a good faith debate. what's modern liberal delusion is taking sociological concepts to their extreme and applyin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 10:43 PM |
| 1 | People who clown on age gap relationships are toxicok and just because it has happened to young girls doesn't mean every man who dates younger women operates that way - which means that making a definitive statement about it is fundamentally illogical. i certainly know that it doesn't apply to me or the guys i know personally. younger than 18 is already legal in the vast majority of western jurisdictions, which is the point of my argument. guys who go for women who are as young as legally possible are very rare. adult actresses in 'barely legal'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 10:34 PM |
| 1 | People who clown on age gap relationships are toxicno, i'm just not operating under modern liberal delusions and redefine words however i see fit. the guy wasn't talking about looking for impoverished women, in fact he wasn't talking about deliberately targeting women of lower socio-economic standards at all - let alone doing so specifically to pressure or manipulate. to present that as 'rapey' as if the average western woman has her ability to consent impacted by dating someone wealthier than her is quite frankly ridiculous. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 10:25 PM |
| 1 | People who clown on age gap relationships are toxic'Men very frequently date down, often significantly, in socio-economic status.' Literally you: 'Ya thats pretty rapey' maybe you should pay better attention to how you word things if you don't want to be called out on it - because that's not simply pointing to a higher risk of coercion or anything along those lines. it's a definitive statement and a generalization, deliberately using very extreme language (rape rather than coercion). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 09:57 PM |
| 1 | People who clown on age gap relationships are toxicjust because there is potential for a power imbalance to turn unhealthy doesn't mean that every relationship of this type is inherently problematic. i don't understand this notion that you have to date your 'equal' if there is no malicious intent or anything along those lines. women date wealthier men all the time or men who are significantly less romantically experienced and barely anyone ever calls that out. people make it a problem when those imbalances turn into actual problematic behavior. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 09:53 PM |
| 1 | People who clown on age gap relationships are toxicnone of these sources indicate anything along the lines of men dating down socio-economically being inherently 'rapey'. in fact you won't be able to provide a single source that isn't a radfem opinion piece that would make such a claim because such a concept doesn't exist in the entirety of sociology. it is flat out non-sense. the potential for abuse and coercion exists in all forms of relationships, even if it can be higher in certain dynamics compared to others. that doesn't mean that there is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 09:34 PM |
| 1 | People who clown on age gap relationships are toxicand you have no idea if he tried pulling any 16 year olds in the first place, so making that leap in logic makes no sense to begin with. if you make a definitive statement (i.e. he would go younger if he could) it has to make sense on a logical basis, not be technically possible in a specific anecdotal circumstance. the vast majority of men will have an easier time dating women their age and certain outliers always exist. this makes the notion as an overarching general concept wildly inaccurate.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 09:26 PM |
| 1 | People who clown on age gap relationships are toxicnobody asked you explain the entirety of sociology. when you make a rather outrageous and specific claim, you should be able to explain it in relatively simple terms - or at the very least provide some sources that substantiate your assessment. quantum mechanics require a deep understanding of terms and processes that aren't exactly common knowledge while sociology generally uses language that is at least commonly understood at a base level. it's just a bad comparison. can you at least name the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 09:07 PM |
| 5 | The Red Pill is great strategy just to for dating.i think the main problem is that sensationalism is what generates clicks so there's a financial incentive to produce certain types of content. that's largely why things developed the way they have, because it is what makes people money. some of the stuff considered red pill is genuinely good advice or information but people are not going to be able to endlessly monetize that. unfortunately a lot of people are easily influenced and drawn to echo chambers and those factors are not exclusive to red… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 08:45 PM |
| 2 | People who clown on age gap relationships are toxicyes, a 38 year old specifically targeting teenagers is weird and probably a predator, i don't disagree with that and never have. examples like this are extreme and rare however and the issues tied to them are often extended to other age gap relationships. if you actually read my posts you won't find me defending this specific dynamic but rather calling out a lack of logic in your specific arguments - mainly because some of those points are often regurgitated when it comes to general age gap disc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 08:30 PM |
| 6 | Most men aren’t “nice guys”self-proclaimed nice guys who struggle with women are often just people pleasers, doormats, not assertive and so on. i disagree with the notion that they're not 'actually nice' or entirely performative, there's levels to all of that. some just have a very passive/submissive personality type due to their upbringing etc. and they find themselves frustrated because women are simply not attracted to it. that doesn't necessarily mean that they're just trying to be nice to get women to like them. on t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 08:02 PM |
| 6 | The Red Pill is great strategy just to for dating.some of the creators in that space are really 'interesting' to say the least. calling out gold diggers and sex workers only to date these exact same women or talking shit about single moms and then getting into a relationship with one. there's a couple of such examples and it seriously makes me wonder how people follow their advice. ironically the same guys call out female dating coaches who are chronically single for example. the 'old school' red pill concepts are not that difficult to understa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 07:29 PM |
| 1 | Women should make the first move, its better for everyone.to be honest, i think a lot of men who want women to approach more will not be the men these women end up approaching anyway. the issue for women is that guys will frequently play along even if they don't really like them that much just to get laid or for an ego boost. facing straight up rejection is not something that women would like either, just like men - if anything i'd say that it's more of a bruise to their ego. they also mostly prefer a dynamic where they're the pursued and a guy who is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 07:06 PM |
| -1 | People who clown on age gap relationships are toxicyour arguments make no sense, that's not me defending anything. it's ironic that you talk about deflection though, you might want to look up the definition. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 06:52 PM |
| 1 | People who clown on age gap relationships are toxicwhat exactly makes me predatory? more like 'i don't debate with people i disagree with' which is inherently illogical. it makes sense to use these kind of cop outs when your arguments have no leg to stand on i guess. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 06:38 PM |
| 0 | People who clown on age gap relationships are toxicthe age of consent in most of the western world is 16, so they already could go younger if they're dating a 19 year old. not a very good argument if you ask me. the narrative that men who can pull off age gap relationships can't attract women their age is out of touch with reality. attracting younger women is generally harder, not easier. looks being part of the equation is completely normal for anyone who is dating, man or woman, age gap or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 06:32 PM |
| 1 | People who clown on age gap relationships are toxicadvanced scientific concepts are hard to explain, yes. this is not an advanced scientific concept though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 06:28 PM |
| 1 | People who clown on age gap relationships are toxicif it's hard to explain it doesn't make sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 06:15 PM |
| 2 | Q4Men: Would you truly spend a year or more with a woman with zero intention of being serious/ married? And let her think otherwise?so basically it doesn't matter that a man might end up feeling like he wasted his time and that he's being deceived or lied to by omission. only women are owed honesty about things that are relevant to them in a relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/26 11:48 AM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Would you truly spend a year or more with a woman with zero intention of being serious/ married? And let her think otherwise?gold diggers are obvious to me although not to everybody and not all gold diggers are created equal. but what about women who cheat or divorce or jump ship when a guy is at his lowest or misrepresent themselves in some way that is essential for the guy etc? i've seen some pretty diabolical shit from women i would not have expected it from over the years. these kinda things will always be a risk when it comes to long-term relationships, man or women, in some shape or form. and i get people being … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/26 01:53 AM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Would you truly spend a year or more with a woman with zero intention of being serious/ married? And let her think otherwise?since a lot of men care about a woman's sexual history when evaluating her as a long-term partner, should that also be information that women are upfront and honest about? or do we only consider it from a female lens despite being the 'empathetic gender'. either way, that shit is never going to happen obviously. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/26 01:37 AM |
| 6 | Q4Men: Would you truly spend a year or more with a woman with zero intention of being serious/ married? And let her think otherwise?this is operating under the premise that relationships that don't lead to marriage are only beneficial to men. in reality there were benefits for her to be in a relationship as well. she also got validation, he also cooked for her and i don't remember anything about chores around the house. besides nobody knows the full scope of their relationship and what each of them contributed. if marriage was so important for her, maybe she should have brought that up. the post didn't read like calculated d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/26 01:28 AM |
| 7 | Q4Men: Would you truly spend a year or more with a woman with zero intention of being serious/ married? And let her think otherwise?even if that were the case, women in this position have agency. why aren't the women bringing it up when they want to change the paradigm of the situation and they're the ones incurring a perceived opportunity cost in the form of wasted time? where is the accountability for their part in the equation? can you name a single reason why they should be absolved of responsibility for their own self-interest? you have to learn to make good decisions for yourself at some point, the world is not going t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/26 12:58 AM |
| 1 | Dating experiments prove men are picky and not as desperate like they claim to be.i am not arguing against 'what other people didn't say', i am arguing against what you did say in the first place. you are the one who brought up the videos agreeing with you on this point when they in fact didn't, which is what i pointed out. there's no hypocrisy here whatsoever, i don't even know how you make the mental leap to draw that connection but i digress. it would have been so much easier to just admit that you were being hyperbolic at best in the part i quoted originally but you'd rat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/26 12:47 AM |
| 7 | Q4Men: Would you truly spend a year or more with a woman with zero intention of being serious/ married? And let her think otherwise?because i'm not really concerned about about labels or specific outcomes - if the woman i'm seeing feels differently, she can put her big girl pants on and bring it up herself. someone has to breach the subject and it's a basic principle of negotiation theory for it to be the party who wishes to change the status quo. people need to learn and understand logical principles as well as making subsequent rational choices for their own good. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/26 12:07 AM |
| 1 | Men are the delusional onesmost guys aren't rich, most guys aren't hot and most guys are not expecting a pretty, thin 20yr old woman. i don't really know what else there is to debate here. your claim has no factual basis so all we can do is disagree back and forth, especially since the OP provides almost nothing to go off in the first place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 11:19 PM |
| 4 | Dating experiments prove men are picky and not as desperate like they claim to be.i watched the videos and none of them said anything along the lines of the guy being able to appeal to most women under any circumstances whatsoever. i also highly doubt that the dude in the 3rd video has any notable success with women and him insulting someone for their looks is peak irony. there's no disagreement on my part that this dude's profile is a complete mess and that he couldn't at least do a little better. that being said there is little point in engaging further when you can't even … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 10:41 PM |
| 6 | Dating experiments prove men are picky and not as desperate like they claim to be.which successful men agree with you on the notion that this specific man could become appealing to most women? let alone by simply following your outlined 3 step program? if you think this man could do anything outside of becoming a literal billionaire or A list celebrity to get interest from more than half of the women out there i won't bother you any further because it's just beyond pointless at that point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 10:17 PM |
| 13 | Dating experiments prove men are picky and not as desperate like they claim to be.when you try to make an argument it's kind of on you to provide credible sources to substantiate your claims - at least if you want to make a compelling argument that is. replying with 'find your own' when your references are questioned is certainly a choice though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 10:10 PM |
| 6 | Dating experiments prove men are picky and not as desperate like they claim to be.your explanation would not make him appealing to most women and the reason i didn't quote it was for simple brevity. none of those things will suddenly make him physically attractive which is the essence of my argument. plenty of men who are much more attractive than him with less repulsive profiles etc. aren't appealing to most women either, being appealing to most women is incredibly difficult. if you want to die on the hill that this man can do anything at all to become appealing to most wome… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 10:06 PM |
| 13 | Dating experiments prove men are picky and not as desperate like they claim to be.that's not what i said though - i am just challenging your baseless claim that he would appeal to most women if he was really desperate. unattractive men will never appeal to most women, especially not when combined with desperation. you are the one who said they would and now you are framing it like i said that they should. i mean i literally quoted it, idk how you can misinterpret a single sentence given the context. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 09:58 PM |
| 1 | Women have no problems with "power dynamics" if it’s something they’re attracted to and validates their egosit's a debate sub and i'm well aware that most people here don't change their mind about anything even when confronted with very logical arguments against their position. i don't care what you personally think, it has no relevance to me. what's interesting to me is how baseless some of your claims are and how seemingly unaware you are of it because it's what fits your world view. there's a lot of that on this sub and i personally couldn't imagine operating that way, it's lowkey fascinating in a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 09:50 PM |
| 4 | Q4Men: Would you truly spend a year or more with a woman with zero intention of being serious/ married? And let her think otherwise?i can see that perspective but OP frames it as diabolical behavior of a guy taking advantage of a poor woman. to me it's more so a case of different views and poor communication skills. in general i still think that whoever has a specific outcome in mind is carrying a higher opportunity cost (like wasted time) and should bring it up simply based on the principle of self-interest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 09:45 PM |
| 24 | Dating experiments prove men are picky and not as desperate like they claim to be.'Because if he was really desperate, he would appeal to most women.' lmao what? desperate men don't suddenly become physically attractive and desperate behavior doesn't appeal to most women at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 09:38 PM |
| 1 | Men on the whole are objectively worth less to date now than ever I believei don't disagree with the essence of the argument but would you honestly say that women are at their relative peak in the same context? and i don't mean specifically being unable to perform adult tasks but more so in terms of what they bring to relationships relative to what men tend to value and relative to the past. personally i don't think it's a one-sided equation and that it just shows up differently due to inherent asymmetry between men and women and our preferences. i think modern life ha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 09:34 PM |
| 1 | How do you define a female friend?it kinda goes back to the question what people would consider a friend in this context. like i'm friendly with a bunch of women but i do not specifically seek to hang out with them and don't communicate a lot over text. that doesn't mean we don't get along and can enjoy each other's company when we happen to be around each other of course but it's a different dynamic than i have with my close male friends. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 09:21 PM |
| 1 | How do you define a female friend?i think it's a bit different in mixed friend groups and especially when you're younger or at least it can be. i had a bunch of female friends in college because we had plenty in common at that time: going out, partying and just generally trying to have a good time and while also not really having that many hobbies (which are often skewed towards either gender). nowadays in my 30s though, not so much really and i'm only around female friends (i'd probably call them acquaintances) when hanging out… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 09:17 PM |
| 6 | How do you define a female friend?when people have different definitions for certain words and you want to have an objective discussion about a related subject, it's kinda important to establish a definition for that sake i'd say. there was a topic about guys having/not having female friends just a couple of days ago after all which prompted this thread. i'm friendly with a bunch of women in my social circles or hobby spaces. we have conversations when we happen to be around each other, get along well and so on but i don't reall… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 09:06 PM |
| 7 | Q4Men: Would you truly spend a year or more with a woman with zero intention of being serious/ married? And let her think otherwise?but why would the onus be on one person rather than the other to start that conversation? if anything it should be the party that 1) wants to change the status quo of the relationship (for example, getting married) and 2) has a higher relative opportunity cost (i.e. the person who has a specific outcome and/or timeline in mind). personally i'm assuming that women who are not bringing up these topics don't really care that much about specific outcomes and date more so for the the sake of dating (… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 08:47 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Would you truly spend a year or more with a woman with zero intention of being serious/ married? And let her think otherwise?well, some religious guys do say that but generally sure, the vast majority doesn't. up that number though and things can change. some men definitely reject women they perceive as promiscuous for anything serious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 08:38 PM |
| 8 | Q4Men: Would you truly spend a year or more with a woman with zero intention of being serious/ married? And let her think otherwise?i'm honest about my intentions but i'm not going to bring up any 'what are we' discussions or tell women that i'm not looking to get married without them asking. i don't think there's anything diabolical about it at all personally - if you care about changing the status quo, you should breach the subject, not the person who is fine with how things are. if a certain outcome (like marriage) is extremely important to you, you should say that. whenever i do get into a committed relationship however … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 08:27 PM |
| 1 | Women have no problems with "power dynamics" if it’s something they’re attracted to and validates their egossource or didn't happen, plain and simple. idk why you double down on this supposed survey instead of admitting that you misrepresented what it actually said. i can make up a bunch of BS and refer you to non-existing sources that i don't provide but what's the point in that? no rational person would think that i was making a good case for my point. and yes it is offensive to actual victims when you trivialize their experience by expanding it to completely normal interactions (i.e. interactions b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 01:30 PM |
| 3 | Would you like to live in a post gender society?it is a necessary condition for a lot of people. i would argue some degree of polarity is necessary for most people even. is it required for everyone? obviously not. does that fundamentally change the implication of what ladybird said though? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 07:56 AM |
| – | We men are setting ourselves back. And there's no excusei've never said those things personally but the problem with your argument is that it only focus on the supply side, overlooking demand as a metric entirely. men and women have different mating strategies, women are more selective, we have different perceptions of the attractiveness of the opposite sex and women are happier with the prospect of being single than men are (on average of course). this is what creates an asymmetry, not a skewed gender ratio (although that exists as well on dating ap… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 07:40 AM |
| – | Women have no problems with "power dynamics" if it’s something they’re attracted to and validates their egosthe implication of you being unable to link the survey you referenced in a previous comment is that it doesn't actually exist. i certainly have never seen such a survey so i'm assuming you are simply exaggerating the contents of surveys that i am aware of - which doesn't seem too unlikely because it wouldn't be the only exaggeration you made so far and you still haven't provided an actual source. i'm not dating teenagers, i don't hang around colleges (well, my ex was in university), i have never… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 07:11 AM |
| 3 | It isn't worth it to have casual sex with meni think orgasms are a pretty big part of the enjoyment when it comes to sex personally but the comment i replied to wasn't talking about enjoyment specifically. regardless, many women report pretty low satisfaction and relatively high rates of regret when it comes to these encounters. having their pick of the litter is of course a luxury, as is having it whenever you want but the interaction has to be worthwhile in the first place for that to matter. the reason women have so many options in casu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 06:42 AM |
| – | Women have no problems with "power dynamics" if it’s something they’re attracted to and validates their egosi mean i was once a young lad with a thing for older ladies and so were some of my friends and guys i knew in general. i actually dated an older woman for almost 3 years, though it wasn't quite a 9 year gap. all i can say is that none of my friends ended up actually marrying an older woman and even leaving personal anecdotes aside, these kinds of marriages are obviously fairly uncommon statistically. if that's your thing though i genuinely hope it works out - i don't have an issue with it person… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 06:29 AM |
| 2 | Attraction isn’t a meritocracyi'm a bit confused, how did you jump to single moms and ONS exactly? of course women can get into relationships and be left (or leave their partner) later down the line too and obviously this dating pattern does not describe every woman and every issue she might face either. there are multiple qualifiers in my post (average women; attractive and successful men; dating apps) and there's no mention of these women getting pregnant or only having ONS (there are other casual dating dynamics too) - al… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 06:12 AM |
| 2 | There are similar patterns in men anticipating sex, and women anticipating commitmentthere are probably a lot of guys who don't bring it up the first time they start to have doubts, sure. they might wait until the subject comes up and try to insert it into the conversation naturally or they might just not be consciously thinking about it and actually weighing the pros and cons without a proper discussion taking place. i don't think women (or people in general) always bring up something they start doubting right away though, it's kinda just how things are and how communication en… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 05:54 AM |
| 3 | It isn't worth it to have casual sex with menthey might when the consequences come knocking but a lot of people double down on bad life decisions too ofc. i used to smoke when i was a bit younger and hate it now personally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 05:44 AM |
| 1 | The debate about age gaps in relationships reveals the double standard of blue pillers.age gaps are already normalized, certainly globally. even in the west we can see them all over media - if that's normalization, idk what is. they might not be normalized in your circles but that's a different story. nothing remotely controversial will ever be normalized everywhere in our lifetime and normalization is not black and white, hence why i specifically said 'more normalized' in my previous post. 'A 2025 IPSOS survey indicates that 71% of Americans find it acceptable for an older man to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 05:41 AM |
| – | Women have no problems with "power dynamics" if it’s something they’re attracted to and validates their egosso you can't link an actual survey? because i have a feeling that it will show a strong preference for women in their early 20s rather than teenagers. being attracted to and dating women in their 20s has nothing to do with pedophilia. men as a group also can't be ephebophilic by definition since it is considered an atypical sexual interest (paraphilia) in the first place. trying to blur the lines between clearly established terms and using extreme outliers to prove a bigger point is not exactly … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 05:29 AM |
| 2 | There are similar patterns in men anticipating sex, and women anticipating commitmentto put it in economic/technical terms: in negotiation theory, there is a fundamental asymmetry between wanting a change of status (in this case marriage) and wanting to maintain the status quo (remaining unmarried). in any decision-making matrix, the burden of initiation lies with the party seeking to alter the current state. this might sound a bit unromantic but this kind of marriage discussion does fit the definition of a negotiation. at the same time, the party seeking marriage is the one tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 04:59 AM |
| 4 | It isn't worth it to have casual sex with men- higher risk of SA - risk of pregnancy - additional social stigma - higher STD transmission rates from men to women due to anatomical and biological factors. when it comes to the reward side of the equation: - orgasm gap - higher post-encounter regret i know some women (and probably some men) don't like hearing that but mother nature doesn't care about your ideological understanding of equality yada yada. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 04:28 AM |
| 1 | CMV: If it's true that men don't pull their weight in housework in reversed relationships, it's a "fuck you pay me" situationinterestingly, recent data from the bureau of labor statistics compiled by pewresearch shows that the common feminist narrative of women performing a disproportionate amount of unpaid labor overlooks a crucial factor: the fact that men perform more paid labor. https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/atus.pdf https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/feature/how-do-u-s-men-and-women-spend-their-time/ a conclusion of the provided data: When combining paid and unpaid labor, the total workload is nearl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 04:09 AM |
| – | Everything that men claim women are is pure projection.i mean, same thing vice-versa, no? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 03:16 AM |
| 6 | There are similar patterns in men anticipating sex, and women anticipating commitmentif that's their goal, they should communicate that and make sure they're on the same page. they should also be aware that people can change their mind, nothing is guaranteed in this sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 03:07 AM |
| 1 | There are similar patterns in men anticipating sex, and women anticipating commitmentif you have the desire and expectation to be married, you should bring that up. plenty of people don't get married these days - in france, around 60% of children are born out of wedlock for example. the idea that marriage is the default outcome for relationships really needs to die at this point, it's not the 1950s anymore. communicate what you want and don't just expect the other person to be on the same page because that's what you assume is normal, like it's some sort of unspoken rule. it's n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 02:55 AM |
| – | Women have no problems with "power dynamics" if it’s something they’re attracted to and validates their egosenjoy being practice material, a sugar mom or dating a guy with mommy issues i guess. that's what 'dating' looks like in the majority of those cases. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 02:46 AM |
| – | Women have no problems with "power dynamics" if it’s something they’re attracted to and validates their egoslike trying to normalize all kinds of toxic behavior when the other person doesn't know any better? uneven relationship dynamics (one person running the show), setting unfair/toxic expectations (i don't have to do X, you have to do Y and Z though), controlling behavior (adults in relationships don't do X), exploiting the need for validation, weaponizing intimacy, love bombing, gas lighting or guilt tripping. romantically inexperienced people are more susceptible to all kinds of manipulation in r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 02:41 AM |
| – | Women have no problems with "power dynamics" if it’s something they’re attracted to and validates their egospower dynamic benefitting me = good power dynamic benefitting other women = bad power dynamic contrary to my world view = awful power dynamic benefitting men = the devil that's the actual unironic actual thought process for certain women. all the talk around it is simply there to try and frame their position as something that at least resembles any level of reason. of course there are plenty of women who have more nuanced and objective opinions but when you see the hyperbolic non-sense claiming … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 02:12 AM |
| – | Women have no problems with "power dynamics" if it’s something they’re attracted to and validates their egoswhat survey evidence? the data i know of shows a physical preference for women in their early 20s, not 18 year olds. that's not 'pedo-adjacent' or whatever bs women want to label it to demonize and shame legal and natural male biology. since 16 is the most common age of consent in the US and most western countries - do you honestly think that a significant percentage of guys who talk about dating young women are looking for that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 02:06 AM |
| – | Women have no problems with "power dynamics" if it’s something they’re attracted to and validates their egosnot a single woman has ever thought that my income is an issue even when they didn't have a job or were making a fraction of what i make and most women actively seek out power dynamics in terms of physical traits too. power dynamics only seem to be an inherent issue when the women who criticize them can't benefit from them or when it doesn't fit their world view/ideology i guess. but more importantly, are there actually any men who listen to this sort of policing in general? i mean i get the guy… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 02:03 AM |
| 3 | It isn't worth it to have casual sex with mensome confused women seek validation, some let the hormones do the thinking especially around ovulation, some try to use it as a stepping stone for commitment with guys they don't qualify for, some think it's empowering because men do it and equality yada yada (also confused), a small minority is just wired that way and really enjoy it (mostly have some issues though ime), some are following pop culture or whatever their friends are doing. probably a bunch of other reasons as well. how logical an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 01:50 AM |
| 2 | It isn't worth it to have casual sex with menyou heard it gen z girls, go for the millennials instead. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 01:41 AM |
| 5 | It isn't worth it to have casual sex with menbut they can be just like men! it's empowering and progressive! /s ofc but unironically what some confused women out there seem to think. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 01:39 AM |
| 2 | It isn't worth it to have casual sex with meni don't think she has to do anything but she ain't gonna be my girl. plenty of guys will meet strange women on the apps, have no idea about any of their history or how to vet them and sign up to the deal anyway though and some men don't care about a woman's past at all. as long as women don't lie about it, i don't see a problem. now whether it's a sound decision to sleep around for other reasons is a different question. i would argue that it isn't but hey it's not my life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 01:32 AM |
| -1 | It isn't worth it to have casual sex with menit's objectively worse for women based on the risk to reward ratio. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 01:26 AM |
| 5 | Attraction isn’t a meritocracythe point isn't really that all attractive and successful men are players. the point is that average women can only attract attractive and successful men for short-term 'relationships' (exceptions only prove the rule). those looking for something serious are not mass swiping on average women on dating apps in the first place. women can date however they want of course but when they repeatedly run into the issue of men not committing (and i don't mean just a couple of times), chances are they're … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 01:15 AM |
| 2 | The debate about age gaps in relationships reveals the double standard of blue pillers.sour grapes that men with plenty of options choose younger women. if they're around your age, it wouldn't be an age-gap relationships would it? enough women lament the fact that men they are or could be interested in are looking for younger women instead. if you've never seen that, idk what to tell you but i have. older women absolutely do not want age gaps to become more normalized in general because it goes against their self-interest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/26 06:23 AM |
| 0 | The debate about age gaps in relationships reveals the double standard of blue pillers.some women can find a financial sponsor at 40+, sure. i'm not talking about transactional relationships to begin with though and i highly doubt that most women in that age range can pull that off anyway. i mean, do you honestly think that it doesn't rub some women the wrong way when they see successful and attractive men their age dating younger women? the jealousy isn't even about being able or unable to get someone to finance their lives, it's about having to compete with younger women for men… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/26 06:05 AM |
| 1 | Men nowadays want babies to grow up in paid careyes i do. for example: https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2013/nov/20/non-resident-dads-relationship-children also: Contact Rates: A study by the NatCen research group found that while one in five (20%) fathers lose contact with children from earlier relationships, the majority (80%) retain some form of connection. the idea that most single mothers are dealing with deadbeat fathers is feminist fan fiction - but anything to absolve women of all wrong-doing and accountability i guess? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/26 06:01 AM |
| 0 | Guys need to ask themselves what value they bring to others.alright, let's go by 'mainstream factor' if the guardian is not mainstream enough for you. https://www.foxnews.com/media/new-poll-shows-liberal-women-most-unhappy-lonely or let me guess, you will dismiss it because fox has a right wing bias but CNN having a left wing bias is okay because you're left wing? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 06:57 PM |
| 2 | The debate about age gaps in relationships reveals the double standard of blue pillers.all the hyperbolic shaming language surrounding dating issues boils down to this really - it's an attempt to control male behavior. men should just see it for what it is and don't concern themselves with it. which i think most guys who are actually dating younger women already do tbf. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 06:52 PM |
| 2 | The debate about age gaps in relationships reveals the double standard of blue pillers.what makes more life experience inherently creepy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 06:47 PM |
| 3 | The debate about age gaps in relationships reveals the double standard of blue pillers.trust me the guy who wouldn't give you the time of day is not going to care about you calling him a loser. with some of these hyperbolic takes it's difficult not to assume some level of sour grapes dynamic though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 06:46 PM |
| 2 | The debate about age gaps in relationships reveals the double standard of blue pillers.some of these anti age gap crusaders have some pretty wild ideas, i gotta say. as if life stages are 100% directly correlated to age and nothing else or that being in the same stage of life is a 100% pre-requisite for a healthy relationship in the first place. there's honestly no point arguing against takes with zero nuance when they're also entirely subjective on top of that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 06:43 PM |
| 1 | The debate about age gaps in relationships reveals the double standard of blue pillers.the idea that men go for younger women because women their age won't date them is almost pure fiction and only applies to a small subset of guys dating in pretty specific circles. most men who can attract younger women can date women their age too and if anything it's easier for most guys out there, not the other way around - just based on the fact that most women are not looking to date significantly older men. the idea that older women automatically sniff out all of the red flags etc. doesn't … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 06:39 PM |
| 1 | The debate about age gaps in relationships reveals the double standard of blue pillers.ngl this is pretty ironic coming from you but i digress. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 06:13 PM |
| – | Men insist on being married and having children when they clearly do not have the means to.i don't know a single guy who doesn't have a stable income but wants to be married and have his wife stay at home. most men do not live in lala land, are aware how expensive things are and understand that money doesn't grow on trees. like, sure some people have some wild ideas out there but this is not at all something i have observed in general. my friends who have started families waited until their career and finances were in order. most have a working spouse and these are not exactly super l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 05:47 PM |
| -3 | Men nowadays want babies to grow up in paid care'modern men create single mothers' 404 accountability not found. most men don't abandon their children and most kids growing up in fatherless homes were not abandoned. bad decisions create single mothers first and foremost. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 11:26 AM |
| 2 | A man without female friends is a red flagi've been friends with a few women without an ulterior motive in mind and a couple of them ended up coming on to me. i didn't think that they didn't value me as a friend or anything like that though, sometimes attraction can just develop naturally without us having a say in it really. either way, i just don't need that whole dynamic in my life when i'm in a relationship. where i live it's very normal not to hang out with the opposite sex in 1on1 scenarios unless you're single. my interests and h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 11:17 AM |
| 1 | why aren’t men happier about the fact that they can improve themselves to be more likeable to women?i mean i can quote what other people say in response to your argument but it wouldn't really make sense because you're not the one who said those things, would it? nobody really thinks that people shouldn't have any preferences for physically attractive traits, it's about the degree of those preferences. i think it's reasonable to not want an obese partner but only dating someone with a six pack or D cups would be pretty superficial. i don't see men complaining about women not wanting to date ob… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 10:56 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: Do you think men were better at some point in the past? If so, when exactly?liberal women are strong and independent. the term as used in modern context is heavily weighted towards the context of men being chivalrous towards women, as the provided dictionary definition outlines. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 10:49 AM |
| – | More women today have a disdain for men because the only thing women can offer today is sex, so they understand all of men's efforts today is just for her pussy, which fills them with contempton average, men and women spend roughly the same hours working per week - men work more hours at their job and women work more hours at home. sure, there is some inequality in certain types of relationships but when the average is fairly equal, this narrative that keeps going around is vastly overblown. the statistics simply do not support the notion that it is a widespread problem or even a problem at all on average. 'When looking at all working-age adults, women complete roughly 18 hours of do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 10:27 AM |
| – | what preferences are women allowed to have?you're allowed to have whatever preferences you want (as long as they're legal of course). if someone thinks you're shallow or you simply can't attract the type of people who would meet your standards, that's life. plenty of women would throw insults at me for some of my preferences but it's not really an issue because i don't go around telling everyone about my 'list' and i don't care about their opinion to begin with. i also don't make posts on social media blaming women when i can't find some… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 10:08 AM |
| 2 | A man without female friends is a red flagi don't think it's a red flag when a man gets along better with guys platonically, shares more interests/hobbies, can relate to them better and so on. not having close female friends doesn't mean you dislike women and plenty of hobbies and activities are still dominated by one gender or the other for example. do you think it's a red flag when women are only friends with other women? i personally don't, if anything it's a positive for me. i feel like my exes generally viewed the fact that i mostl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 09:59 AM |
| 3 | why aren’t men happier about the fact that they can improve themselves to be more likeable to women?where's the double standard? an absence of obesity does not equate a gym bod. double standards refer to different standards for the same thing, not different things. i don't really see men complaining about women not finding obesity attractive, it's more so about the fixation on muscular builds, six packs etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 12:57 AM |
| 5 | Q4W: Do you think men were better at some point in the past? If so, when exactly?chivalry is generally gendered in the context in which it is used in modern language/discourse. if you refer to genuine kindness and basic human decency, i think you should just use those words instead. 'Chivalry refers to a code of conduct from the medieval period that emphasized honor, courage, and a duty to help the weak. In modern contexts, it generally describes courteous and respectful behavior, particularly the traditional, polite actions a man might display toward a woman.' liberal women… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 12:56 AM |
| 3 | why aren’t men happier about the fact that they can improve themselves to be more likeable to women?your personal history affects who you are in the presence and the decisions you made in the past say something about you and your values, or would you deny that? not to mention that women have plenty of control over their body count as far as that goes. and while you might not be able to control your age, every woman is young at some point and can capitalize on that (not meaning financially) - meanwhile most men will never be rich/wealthy even if they work hard. besides, most men date women arou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 12:43 AM |
| 3 | why aren’t men happier about the fact that they can improve themselves to be more likeable to women?a gym bod is a lot more difficult to achieve than simply not being obese and obesity is not normal in the vast majority of the world. obviously you need to feel some level of base attraction for a potential romantic partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/26 11:51 PM |
| 10 | Q4W: Do you think men were better at some point in the past? If so, when exactly?why should men even be chivalrous? because women exist and should be put on a pedestal regardless of who they are and how they act etc? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/26 11:44 PM |
| 2 | Guys need to ask themselves what value they bring to others.and the guardian is not mainstream? i would consider the most used online newspaper in the UK to be more relevant than whatever mamdani has to say. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/26 07:54 PM |
| 17 | You can’t claim to have decentered men if you complain about men all the time.it's the female version of most MGTOW guys really, those guys often can't stop talking about women either. i guess decentering is not the same as going their own way but the concept of focusing on a group you don't care about/dislike is very similar. now i'm sure some people of both groups are just focusing on their own life instead but you don't hear from them of course. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/26 06:06 AM |
| 1 | Women are right: It's not all men, but it's always a man.not everything everyone does is selfish but most of our actions in life are based on self-interest, sure. i acknowledge that and don't try to reframe these choices as something for the greater good. and adoption is a clear plan. the point about male variability is not that men are smarter than women. it is that the most competitive top end positions are (or would be) more likely to be occupied by men based on merit. pointing out flaws in a system is significantly easier than developing a better … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/26 04:13 PM |
| 3 | Men gotta stop getting offended because woman don’t want them.there are levels to it but yeah, none of us is without flaws of course. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/26 03:59 PM |
| 1 | Women are right: It's not all men, but it's always a man.i think modern capitalism has it's issues but can you name one non-capitalist system that actually worked, let alone lead to as much innovation and technological progress, increases in life expectancy etc.? we don't have a meritocracy but that's not the point. a meritocratic system would have more men than women at the top ends of society. trying to establish equality of outcome is fundamentally anti-meritocratic. IQ is still a relevant measurement used in academic research, not just something r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/26 03:53 PM |
| 1 | Women are right: It's not all men, but it's always a man.the issue i see is picking and choosing from the equality buffet as one sees fit to suit one's own interests. i would argue that homelessness and dying in war are much more pressing issues than a lack of women in positions of power, yet the so called 'equality movement' named feminism seems to be primarily focused on the latter. homelessness is human suffering but i see no issue whatsoever with male dominated leadership roles given that men tend to have a higher concentration at the extremes of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/26 03:24 PM |
| 1 | Women are right: It's not all men, but it's always a man.scandinavian countries had among the highest standards of living before there was a slight preference for female leadership. it's not even a correlation, let alone a causal effect, so idk why you'd bring it up. male variability is biological reality - just because it doesn't fit your world view doesn't mean it can be dismissed. but i guess due to your framing of 'correcting biological mistakes' that suit your worldview, i understand how you would overlook a scientifically researched concept. fem… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/26 02:49 PM |
| 2 | Passport Bros aren't leaving the western dating scene for genuine desire, they are leaving for a chance at genuine desire, which is more than they would ever have in the west.so you can't quantify this 'large percentage' and you don't have a single source for your claim, got it. everyone can make up baseless shit to suit their argument. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/26 02:39 PM |
| 3 | Men gotta stop getting offended because woman don’t want them.it's truly awful when people do stuff like that. i think bullying is one of the most traumatic experiences to go through for kids and teenagers and kudos to overcoming it mentally. young people can be extremely cruel and they can completely lack any sense of empathy for other people. i honestly can't imagine what that must have have felt like, it's sad that people aren't raised better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/26 02:34 PM |
| 0 | Men gotta stop getting offended because woman don’t want them.guys should definitely place less of their value on their ability to get women - but i guess it's difficult for some men to not put women on a pedestal when they struggle to get female attention in the first place and there are of course innate biological desires that we can't simply turn off at will. i don't think it's a healthy mindset though and at least part of it is down to social reinforcement. being weird about rejection, getting angry at the woman etc. is just loser behavior either way. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/26 02:25 PM |
| 3 | The reason why a lot of men are struggling is because they do not want to date at their level. Below average men should date below average women. If you want better be better. Why are you asking another person to lower their standards for you, when you wont lower your standards?i assume that a woman who thinks that she deserves something is delusional too when she doesn't get it, correct? it's not some BS about how there are so many more great ladies out there compared to the men, how an amazing guy is just an average woman and so on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/26 01:57 PM |
| 2 | The reason why a lot of men are struggling is because they do not want to date at their level. Below average men should date below average women. If you want better be better. Why are you asking another person to lower their standards for you, when you wont lower your standards?what makes you think that women are great at assessing their worth in the realm of dating? the market decides their 'worth' and if so many women are single and unable to find a partner who measures up to their expectations, maybe that premise is not exactly accurate. i mean we invented a whole new term (situationship) when in reality it's just women not getting commitment from the men they want and calling it something else most of the time, often staying in those situations for prolonged period… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/26 01:43 PM |
| 2 | The reason why a lot of men are struggling is because they do not want to date at their level. Below average men should date below average women. If you want better be better. Why are you asking another person to lower their standards for you, when you wont lower your standards?men and women value/prioritize different traits in their partners on average, to varying degrees - just looking at age doesn't really prove a general point. when it comes to finances or height for example, men have much less rigid standards than women. and the data you're referring to shows men's rating of physical attractiveness relative to age, not that they are only interested in women in their early 20s. that's a pretty big difference. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/26 01:26 PM |
| 1 | Women are right: It's not all men, but it's always a man.women have opportunities for leadership but men predominantly occupying the top (and the bottom) of positions in society is perfectly aligned with the biological reality called 'male variability'. take it up with mother nature i guess. a responsible choice would be to not have sex if you don't want to risk getting pregnant. 'abortion is good' is an entirely subjective position and i completely disagree, as do many other people. now that's not to say there isn't nuance (medical emergencies or SA … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/26 07:20 AM |
| 1 | A lot of liberal women struggle in dating because what they're truly attracted to and what they say they want are usually contradictory.do you think that all manosphere guys are fuckboys or that there are no fuckboys with a different political/cultural affiliation? how big of a representation is the manosphere when it comes to the dating pool anyway? i don't really get this point, i've seen plenty of liberal guys in college collecting women like they're pokemons and i've seen conservative guys who weren't really into hookups as well. 'wokefishing' is a thing and discussed by liberal women in various dating related spaces. men ac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/26 07:07 AM |
| 0 | The reason men get "friendzoned" more than women is often because there's a Masculinity + "Does he say / do the right things to turn me on" component to women's sexuality that eliminates her male friends from contention.a lot of things of course but the women i'm referencing specifically exhibited traits that i consider red flags (for relationships). i can be friends with impulsive women who like to drink and party, who are promiscuous, who are perhaps a bit masculine in their behavior and mannerisms (plenty of my guy friends were similar after all, at least in my 20s) but i'm completely turned off from building a romantic emotional connection with them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/26 06:58 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Many of men's dating problems start With treating women as opportunities rather than peoplei have never thought about it this way. whenever i felt like a woman is out of my league i didn't think about her beyond that at all really. sometimes i caught their interest without even trying (beyond being a normal, sociable guy etc.) because i wasn't pedestalizing them and just treated them like a normal person, unlike a lot of other guys who were showering these women with attention and validation, trying to get a crumb of attention back. while i find that behavior pathetic, it seems like t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/26 06:26 AM |
| 17 | CMV: Many of men's dating problems start With treating women as opportunities rather than peoplebut they seemingly can't tell when a guy is misogynistic/abusive/just wants to fuck or whatever as long as he looks good and is charming. if women's intuition was so accurate they wouldn't have issues with dating for the most part. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/26 06:15 AM |
| 3 | Women are right: It's not all men, but it's always a man.when it comes to historic male achievements, technological advancements, building society and so on you have said: 'I’m sure none of that had anything to do with women not being allowed to be anything other than property for most of recorded history.' but the same logic somehow doesn't apply when it comes to atrocities committed by the powerful elites throughout history. there is a fundamental disparity in how these facts are portrayed by the vast majority of feminists. oh and by the way there h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 08:01 PM |
| 1 | It’s not that women having inflated egos. It’s just a lot of guys underestimate a woman’s worth in the dating market.i don't care about what you think either but i'm not sure you understand the point of a debate sub. fwiw there are no american women in my social circles but statistics on mental health issues, SSRI use etc. are widely available. what constitutes as dumb is debatable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 07:41 PM |
| 1 | What should the punishment be for false accusations of paternity fraud?i already provided an explanation on the differences between paternity tests and an actual accusation. if you didn't understand them, i am not sure how i can make it more clear - but claiming someone has done something is not the same thing as making sure that they didn't. there also have been cases of babies being mixed up at the hospital for what it's worth, so there's that too. no infidelity involved at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 07:32 PM |
| 1 | Are power imbalances in relationships really that bad?that's not what i said - the issue with billionaires is the exploitation of said power imbalances. besides, not all power differences are the same and billionaires are a rather extreme example. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 07:20 PM |
| 1 | Passport Bros aren't leaving the western dating scene for genuine desire, they are leaving for a chance at genuine desire, which is more than they would ever have in the west.economic disparity can affect genuine desire, as can other factors such as being taller than the local population or being perceived as exotic, different beauty standards and expectations. personally i don't think its hard to figure out whether a woman is actually into you, whether there's a financial imbalance or not. at least if you have any semblance of social skills, can read body language etc. and don't lie to yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 07:17 PM |
| 0 | A lot of liberal women struggle in dating because what they're truly attracted to and what they say they want are usually contradictory.is this based on any data? 'Recent studies, such as the American Family Survey, highlight a mental health and well-being gap, noting that young liberal women are more likely to report loneliness and psychological distress than their conservative counterparts.' the american family survey has a conservative bias in their selection of topics but it remains a widely cited academic benchmark, is considered highly credible due to their methodology and transparency among other factors and is conducted … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 06:50 PM |
| 19 | Modern dating is becoming more difficult because men and women are becoming increasingly ideologically dividedmodern dating changed quite a bit over the past few decades too and women didn't depend on men in the early 2000s. it definitely isn't the only reason. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 05:36 PM |
| 5 | It’s not that women having inflated egos. It’s just a lot of guys underestimate a woman’s worth in the dating market.you make threads on here on a semi daily basis it seems and when someone challenges your takes your rebuttal is that they're angry because they're writing paragraphs? and i don't want to get into the amount of dumb women who have mental health issues in the US but i challenge the notion that it is 'very few' personally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 05:32 PM |
| 1 | Passport Bros aren't leaving the western dating scene for genuine desire, they are leaving for a chance at genuine desire, which is more than they would ever have in the west.words have meaning but there is not even a dictionary definition of the word PPB, it's literally informal slang rather than an academically established term. the wikipedia article is not citing anything resembling a formal source either from what i can tell, the first one literally being a random article written on yahoo live. wikipedia is not considered an authoritative source for a reason - neither is chatgpt of course but i'm not the one claiming that the term is well-established. my original… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 05:19 PM |
| 7 | It’s not that women having inflated egos. It’s just a lot of guys underestimate a woman’s worth in the dating market.she is valuable for sex in one of the scenarios - congrats i guess but as i said most women don't see value in that. the point seemed to go over your head twice now and you're just repeating yourself so idk why i'm even bothering pointing it out again but here we go. the ego inflation happens when a woman's self-perception in regards to her long-term mate value is partly or primarily based on her short-term dating experiences. she is comparing apples to oranges, i.e. being valuable for sex with … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 04:46 PM |
| 1 | Passport Bros aren't leaving the western dating scene for genuine desire, they are leaving for a chance at genuine desire, which is more than they would ever have in the west.first of all the actual definition of PPB is highly debatable. even people on their subreddit can't get on the same page when it comes to that and it's not a term that's established in dictionaries. if you ask something like chatgpt it will include factors such as preferring the culture and values of destination countries for example - and point out that there is no single authoritative definition of the term since it's informal slang. you can't just use your own interpretation or definition (mo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 04:26 PM |
| 2 | What should the punishment be for false accusations of paternity fraud?you are the one doing mental gymnastics, i am going by literal textbook definitions of the terms. all you have to do is open a dictionary to realize you're wrong. or ask one of the dozens of AIs to do the thinking for you, the result will be the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 04:01 PM |
| 6 | It’s not that women having inflated egos. It’s just a lot of guys underestimate a woman’s worth in the dating market.her mate value is different in both scenarios, that's the point. if you don't get how that's relevant and can be conflated when lines are often blurry in modern dating, idk what to tell you. women themselves frequently assert that being valued for what's between their legs is not actually valuable to them - but that doesn't mean that women can't conflate these different metrics they're evaluated by to varying degrees. and no i don't care personally, this is a debate forum where i engage for the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 03:54 PM |
| 1 | Are power imbalances in relationships really that bad?i agree but it's interesting that i basically never heard a woman mention this when a much more experienced woman gets into a relationship with a late bloomer or something along those lines. whether it's because these women typically assume that 'women are wonderful' and wouldn't leverage a position of power in their favor or because it's something that benefits them personally more often than not, idk. now i don't think it's inherently predatory, which is where we disagree i guess but it has at… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 03:51 PM |
| 0 | Are power imbalances in relationships really that bad?women frequently abuse the inherent power or leverage they have over men in the context of dating, but far from every woman does this and the same can be said for men who find themselves in relationships that are technically unbalanced based on some metrics. there are also women who are much more experienced romantically compared to their partners and use that to their advantage but i have never seen a woman call out this dynamic personally. it's always about men dating younger or men dating poo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 03:35 PM |
| 1 | Are power imbalances in relationships really that bad?power balances are not a problem inherently, as long as one person doesn't take advantage of the other one. the people who generalize and demonize relationships with power imbalances without any nuance generally do so because of their own self-interest and/or ideological position. you can date someone making a fraction of your income or being a decade+ younger without abusing those dynamics. just because the potential is there in theory doesn't mean it's bound to happen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 03:33 PM |
| 1 | Are power imbalances in relationships really that bad?do you consider a sizeable gap in dating experience to be a power imbalance? because this is something i've never seen women call out as predatory, it's always just things like age-gaps or financial power imbalances (often fixated on specific examples like dating foreign women - most would not turn down a man because he's 'too rich') | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 03:28 PM |
| 2 | Are power imbalances in relationships really that bad?it's the exploitation of power imbalances which is not inherent to power itself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 03:26 PM |
| 1 | Most Modern Women are Alpha Widowsthis only really happens when women go from casual dating to 'dating with intention'. a woman's best options based on objectively desirable traits such as looks, height, status and income will almost always only be short-term options - certainly for women who are around average, aka most women. and there is research supporting the idea that women are more selective for at least physical attributes when it comes to casual dating vs long-term relationships, simply because they get to. there is an … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 03:21 PM |
| 1 | It’s not that women having inflated egos. It’s just a lot of guys underestimate a woman’s worth in the dating market.when it comes to long-term monogamous relationships, which is what most people are looking for eventually, the ratio between men and women is obviously very close to 1:1. the amount of leverage women have in this context is vastly overstated in online spaces. some women however overestimate their long-term mate value based on their short-term dating results which are entirely different metrics, primarily driven by online and casual dating. there's also plenty of content made by women on social m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 02:42 PM |
| 4 | It’s not that women having inflated egos. It’s just a lot of guys underestimate a woman’s worth in the dating market.the issue is that short-term and long-term mate value are very different for women. when women base their expectations for long-term partners on their short-term mate value, it's not going to work out the vast majority of the time. that's their problem of course, i don't care personally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 02:23 PM |
| 1 | Passport Bros aren't leaving the western dating scene for genuine desire, they are leaving for a chance at genuine desire, which is more than they would ever have in the west.'These men never go to countries where that exists, because with true choice they would be unchosen.' it is in fact a point you have made. and the last point was in direct reference to you claiming that women in these places don't have true choice. your argument is centered around men having bad intentions. what about the fact that women from certain countries are more feminine, not as overweight, have more traditional values, aren't as materialistic and so on? why does it always have to be fram… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 08:46 AM |
| 2 | What should the punishment be for false accusations of paternity fraud?i've already made a post outlining how paternity tests are not the same thing as an accusation. they don't fit the literal definition of the word. i know some people these days like to change the definitions of words to suit their argument but this is not something that is up for debate, it's objective reality. public accusations are also entirely different than those made in private, so even if paternity tests were accusations, the premise of your arguments don't make any sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 08:38 AM |
| 1 | What should the punishment be for false accusations of paternity fraud?you don't understand the literal dictionary definition of the word accusation. maybe you should research what the words you use mean before using them, idk. you can twist it however you want it but none of it makes sense. most people who are not completely ideologically driven recognize false equivalencies, they know what words mean etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 08:35 AM |
| – | Q4W: Why do women get so much more leeway in terms of being insecure/jealous in dating/ relationships?there is research showing that dressing provocatively/revealing has a clear effect on how much of this type of attention women receive. you can always find examples of X doing Y or Z, anecdotes exist for just about anything. doesn't change the general point that is based on factual stats. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 08:33 AM |
| 2 | Passport Bros aren't leaving the western dating scene for genuine desire, they are leaving for a chance at genuine desire, which is more than they would ever have in the west.people seem to have very definitions on what a PPB is just based on this thread alone or even from what you see on their own sub. the point about western europe is that some guys can get women who have 'true choice' and still prefer dating someone from SEA or LATAM for example. i've seen enough guys like this when i lived in those places myself. i also think some of you underestimate the amount of agency on the women's part. they're not all living in some rural village without running water, str… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 08:29 AM |
| 1 | Passport Bros aren't leaving the western dating scene for genuine desire, they are leaving for a chance at genuine desire, which is more than they would ever have in the west.i can get with women in western europe and have in the past, what's your argument now? this no true scottsman line of argument is just circular bs. not saying what you describe doesn't exist but it's not inherent. plenty of people in developing countries have 100% free choice btw. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 07:59 AM |
| 1 | Passport Bros aren't leaving the western dating scene for genuine desire, they are leaving for a chance at genuine desire, which is more than they would ever have in the west.economic disparity is not the only difference between western and developing countries. why does it have to be the only reason why people choose to date in the latter? that's what doesn't make sense logically - isolating one variable to make a broader point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 07:57 AM |
| 1 | Passport Bros aren't leaving the western dating scene for genuine desire, they are leaving for a chance at genuine desire, which is more than they would ever have in the west.large percentage huh? what is this percentage and what source do you have for this claim? let me guess, the source is located somewhere on the lower back of your body. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 07:41 AM |
| 0 | Passport Bros aren't leaving the western dating scene for genuine desire, they are leaving for a chance at genuine desire, which is more than they would ever have in the west.you don't think that at least some of the guys going abroad primarily for dating can get a woman in the west? that they might choose dating foreign women because that's what they prefer, because they feel like they have better options? honest question, have you ever left your home country? i mean sure, a lot of the guys i'm referencing are also enjoying other aspects of it, like travelling itself, exploring other cultures, better weather, lower CoL, learning a language or whatever else. women ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 07:38 AM |
| 1 | Passport Bros aren't leaving the western dating scene for genuine desire, they are leaving for a chance at genuine desire, which is more than they would ever have in the west.i met guys in thailand and LATAM who would clean up anywhere in the world as far as dating goes. maybe not textbook PPBs as they didn't travel specifically (or solely) for women but they definitely enjoyed the dating scene abroad quite a bit, some were looking to permanently relocate or were travelling to specific countries a couple of times a year. i doubt they were active in passportbro type subreddits or anything but they were engaging in a lifestyle pretty similar to that. sure, the transact… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 07:32 AM |
| 1 | What should the punishment be for false accusations of paternity fraud?isn't it the same guy who made a post about that doordash girl filming a naked passed out customer in his home and posting his address online, trying to use the backlash as proof of some form of misogyny? meanwhile she's been indicted on two? felony charges for what she did. some people are so ideologically pre-disposed that it's pointless to try and have a logical argument with them. it's not trolling, this guy genuinely believes he has a point and that his arguments make any sense while not ev… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/26 06:29 AM |
| 1 | What should the punishment be for false accusations of paternity fraud?i responded to a similar comment already but paternity tests are not a public accusation. they're not even an accusation at all because accusing somebody of something is making a clear claim. they're an acknowledgement of a possibility of wrong-doing rather than a definitive claim. if you check your video cameras in your store, you're not accusing those who were in it for stealing. and that's no my opinion btw: No, requesting a paternity test is not an accusation based on the literal textbook de… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/26 06:23 AM |
| 2 | What should the punishment be for false accusations of paternity fraud?a paternity test is not a public accusation first of all. falsely accusing someone in public is libel and/or defamation and carries legal consequences, but that's not what you were talking about here. paternity tests happen in private. secondly a false rape accusation is 100% deliberately claiming something untrue while requesting a paternity test is not. it is simply acknowledging that there is a possibility of infidelity, not an outright accusation per se. and even if it was - rape carries leg… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/26 06:18 AM |
| 2 | What should the punishment be for false accusations of paternity fraud?the amount of provisioning for your own kids (or kids who you think are yours) is completely disproportional to what you might buy as gifts for nieces and nephews etc. first of all - as is the level of emotional investment generally speaking. there's also a reason why paternity fraud is an established term used by legal professionals and academics unlike whatever you are talking about. there's no legal obligation or even societal expectation to provide for your nieces and nephews - meanwhile men… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/26 06:08 AM |
| 3 | What should the punishment be for false accusations of paternity fraud?a private accusation (at best) aka one that carries no social consequences. are people on this subreddit deliberately trying to miss the point or something? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/26 05:54 AM |
| 1 | Just because a woman wants a relationship with you doesn't mean she desires you.is there any conclusive data on that actually? i'm genuinely curious, because i know of studies showing that young people are having less sex in general but that's not exactly the same thing. most of the sex people have happens in relationships and the percentage of single people has obviously increased massively. them having less sex in general doesn't necessarily mean that there's less casual sex going on. there's this study https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25940736/ summarized by AI as follows… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/26 05:40 AM |
| 0 | Just because a woman wants a relationship with you doesn't mean she desires you.guys who get settled for are not getting their woman's tongue in their mouth every day and the women will get very snappy about things like slapping their ass. relationships like this exist, primarily based on utility and convenience rather than passion. the deadbedrooms sub has plenty of stories that essentially, to varying degrees, boil down to this type of dynamic. how common they are is another question but i've definitely seen women who went for the safe and stable guy in their 30s, making … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/26 05:32 AM |
| 5 | The reason men get "friendzoned" more than women is often because there's a Masculinity + "Does he say / do the right things to turn me on" component to women's sexuality that eliminates her male friends from contention.i mean, sleeping with them is a completely different bar than falling in love as OP put it. i've slept with a few female friends i found attractive (one of them was basically exactly my physical type) and who were fun to hang out with but there was literally zero romantic/emotional interest involved. the idea that a relationship equals friendship + attraction always seemed a bit odd to me personally. i'm sure plenty of guys operate like that but i also know plenty who don't. what makes someone a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/26 05:13 AM |
| 1 | The reason men get "friendzoned" more than women is often because there's a Masculinity + "Does he say / do the right things to turn me on" component to women's sexuality that eliminates her male friends from contention.men get friendzoned when they lack certain physical or behavioral characteristics while women get fuckzoned or situationship-zoned or whatever for the same or similar reasons. these dynamics really are two sides of the same coin. it's on the people who find themselves in these situations to not let it happen in the first place. i do agree that it's not always down to looks - i've definitely seen guys better looking than me struggle with women because they lacked social competence, flirting/bante… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/26 05:10 AM |
| 1 | Male Attraction is Treated as Normal and Women's Attraction is Seen as Shallow or Badin some spaces, yes. in other spaces, the inverse is true but discussions about standards and preferences are rarely limited to looks and physical attraction. when it comes to the mainstream, i have personally seen more anti-age gap crusades, anti gender role content and talks about men being insecure for their partner's past etc. than i have about hypergamy and women preferring taller men for example. the latter is usually reserved to more specific spaces although it has spread into mainstream … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/26 04:50 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: Why do women get so much more leeway in terms of being insecure/jealous in dating/ relationships?the men hitting on you don't know whether or not you're taken first of all. secondly, i am not absolving men of anything, i am simply stating a fact that is supported by scientific research - how you dress affects how you are perceived and how likely you are to be pursued by the opposite sex. do you dispute that? i would assume no, although i've seen someone in this thread disputing it so perhaps you disagree with a premise that is backed by research. or is your argument that despite being aware… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/26 04:21 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: Why do women get so much more leeway in terms of being insecure/jealous in dating/ relationships?'Yes, women's clothing choices affect the attention they receive, largely by influencing how observers perceive them. Research shows that revealing or form-fitting attire can lead men to approach women more quickly, but it also frequently causes men to overestimate a woman's sexual intent or view her as having lower agency.' here's a source cited for this AI generated answer, referencing multiple studies: http://www.communicationcache.com/uploads/1/0/8/8/10887248/the_effect_of_womens_suggestive_… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/26 04:11 AM |
| 1 | Men don't ask women to have low standards, they ask women to have realistic onesyes in fact they are. the concept of 'give and take' is not inherently transactional, i am not talking about a quid pro quo dynamic. reciprocity is a give and take and is healthy. here's a quick AI answer on this question: Yes, healthy relationships are fundamentally built on give and take. This dynamic, often referred to as reciprocity, involves both partners offering and receiving emotional support, time, and effort in a way that feels fair and respectful to each person. While the balance does… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/26 04:05 AM |
| 2 | Men are not the arbiters of reasonable standardsthis is not what i am doing, the point seemed to have gone over your head unfortunately. read my other reply to you and maybe you'll understand what i'm actually saying and the difference between my post and the women i'm referring to. also where exactly did i blame women for my failures in dating? i'm doing just fine, only calling out the hypocrisy for debate's sake. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/26 03:54 AM |
| 3 | Men are not the arbiters of reasonable standardscompared to let's say the 1950s we've seen increases in: average BMI, infidelity, sex work parrticipation, single motherhood, SSRI use, political divide mainly caused by women moving further and further left, radical feminism, divorce rates, average age of marriage, promiscuity and general masculine behavior (probably missing some factors that i'm not thinking of right now here too). we've also seen decreases in women's interest in motherhood and domestic skills. most of what i listed is simple … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/26 03:51 AM |
| 1 | men treat hoes differentlyyes they can, however: Studies show women often report more regret about having casual encounters—especially heterosexual one-night stands—than men do, while men typically regret missed opportunities. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/26 03:39 AM |
| 1 | What should the punishment be for false accusations of paternity fraud?simply getting a paternity test is not causing any social consequences for the woman. this is generally done in private and any form of libel doesn't really happen because it is easy and relatively cheap to prove. we can talk about reputational damage in cases where somebody is maliciously spreading lies in public but that's not what the OP is about here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/26 03:25 AM |
| 1 | What should the punishment be for false accusations of paternity fraud?people don't tend to give money to random children. the person in question generally wouldn't have used his resources to raise a child if it didn't happen under false pretenses, i.e. if he knew it's not his kid. here's a dictionary definition for fraud, please tell me how it's not applicable: an act, expression, omission, or concealment calculated to induce another to part with something of value or to surrender a legal right | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/26 03:22 AM |
| 2 | What should the punishment be for false accusations of paternity fraud?do you understand the difference between a personal accusation or suspicion and an accusation in a court of law, triggering a criminal investigation etc? fraud involves damages, typically of financial nature. a woman's personal hurt feelings are not comparable, she can break up with someone 'accusing' her of infidelity. i honestly can't believe someone came up with this intellectually dishonest false equivalency, thought they were cooking and posted a serious thread about it. pretty hilarious ev… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/26 03:15 AM |
| 2 | What should the punishment be for false accusations of paternity fraud?getting a paternity test is not an accusation in a court of law. why should it be punished in one? this is one of the most non-sensical arguments and false equivalencies i've seen and that's saying something. comparing a woman's hurt feelings to potentially massive real life financial damages just shows your bias. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/26 03:10 AM |
| 6 | Women are emotionally more resilient and self-reliant as single women do not whine, cry, complain, and moan about being lonely nearly as much as single men do.i see a lot of women complaining about dating and being lonely too, i guess it depends where you look. i don't disagree that this type of discourse is more often driven by men but it's really difficult to put some actual numbers on it. i've seen women call out the term male loneliness epidemic because they also feel impacted, there's lots of posts on this very platform by women who feel lonely and unfulfilled in their personal/romantic lives. if anything i've seen more of that in askwomen type o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 02:41 AM |
| 2 | Men are not the arbiters of reasonable standardsif you put your ideas, standards and whatnot on the internet, some people will react to it. especially if you insult men collectively and blame them for your personal failures in dating, which a lot of women do these days (not enough good men for all the amazing women yada yada type talking points). if you don't want people to have opinions on what you put out there, just stfu about it, idk what's so difficult to comprehend about that concept. when we compare modern women to those 50-60 years ag… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 02:04 AM |
| 1 | Why do they say that there are no benefits in a man having a woman as a friend?i used to but i don't really have close female friends now. i enjoy male friendships more generally speaking and i don't think there's anything wrong with it. there are not too many women who like golf, martial arts, cigars, the occasional video game etc. who i'm also aligned with otherwise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 09:43 PM |
| 1 | Men don't ask women to have low standards, they ask women to have realistic onesrelationships are a give and take, that doesn't mean they're transactional. when women say that men are not measuring up to their standards it's just saying that men don't bring enough to the table in different words. 'To bring something to the table means to contribute a specific skill, quality, resource, or idea that adds value to a group effort, negotiation, or relationship. The phrase implies that every participant is expected to offer something meaningful that benefits the collective, rathe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 09:37 PM |
| 1 | Men don't ask women to have low standards, they ask women to have realistic onesexactly - if you post something like that online, there will be reactions to it. this is where men calling women delusional, telling them to lower their standards etc. is actually happening - yet women call out and complain about these types of comments. nobody is bothering women who are happily single and don't post laundry lists of expectations online, usually insulting men in the process. there's nothing to respond to, nothing to call out, nothing to comment on. somebody calling these women u… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 09:20 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: Why do women get so much more leeway in terms of being insecure/jealous in dating/ relationships?who knows what her intention is? or his for that matter? maybe her intention is to see what's out there, get responses from men, receive attention and validation, make her bf jealous or who knows what else? maybe his intention is showing that he likes the beach she's at in her bikini pic, or maybe he likes the country she went on vacation in? is there any sense of objectivity in your assessment? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 09:10 PM |
| 0 | Q4W: Why do women get so much more leeway in terms of being insecure/jealous in dating/ relationships?no guy is complaining about his gf leaving the house in frumpy clothes. yeah you can still get hit on but you're not actively signaling that you're looking for any attention from the opposite sex. i highly doubt that women get hit on as much wearing frumpy clothes when going to the supermarket compared to showing a bunch of skin at a night club though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 09:08 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: Why do women get so much more leeway in terms of being insecure/jealous in dating/ relationships?like i said, people do it to themselves. that being said, if a woman gets together with a guy who is a flirt, a bit of a womanizer perhaps, dating multiple women when single or just talking to multiple women, complimenting them etc. - can she expect him to change in a relationship? is there no behavior or activity that is considered okay when single but inappropriate when in a relationship, at least for most people? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 09:05 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: Why do women get so much more leeway in terms of being insecure/jealous in dating/ relationships?yes, i agree. it's very dumb and both men and women do it in different ways. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 09:01 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Why do women get so much more leeway in terms of being insecure/jealous in dating/ relationships?dressing in revealing clothing when going to places that are notorious for men hitting on women, hookups happening etc. - that's not just being inside your body. most women i know don't consider this living normally btw, certainly not when they're in a relationship. it invites a certain kind of attention and it's behavior that essentially boils down to looking for external validation. it is an active choice that is being made. since the entire premise of your argument makes no sense on that basi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 08:59 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: Why do women get so much more leeway in terms of being insecure/jealous in dating/ relationships?i literally pointed out the difference between OP and your reply already. there's another comment in here that leaves out the sexualized part of the posting pictures thing when referencing it. or that equates being too friendly with some men with just having male friends. or overlooking the dressing revealing part when it comes to going out (which you did as well). it's almost like there's a need to reframe things from the OP to be able to make a sound argument against it - but then you're not a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 08:44 PM |
| 4 | Q4W: Why do women get so much more leeway in terms of being insecure/jealous in dating/ relationships?i don't get into relationships with women acting this way and i agree that guys should simply avoid them to begin with if it's something that's bothering them. just like women shouldn't date guys who like a bunch of other women's pictures if they dislike it. don't like a particular behavior? nobody forces you to be with that person, regardless of gender. there's a lot of reframing and minimizing going on in this thread however, people paraphrasing OP but leaving out crucial details and so on. i … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 03:36 AM |
| – | Would you marry women who have plastic surgery?i'm not marrying anyone but i wouldn't want a long-term romantic partner who has had plastic surgery. some of it looks downright awful to me and i think people who get such procedures are probably too vain and/or insecure for my liking, generally speaking. or care too much about external validation, maybe that's a better way of putting it. this doesn't include forms of reconstructive surgery after an accident or something like that, more the botox or lip filler kinda stuff. if the woman is other… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 03:20 AM |
| 3 | Q4W: Why do women get so much more leeway in terms of being insecure/jealous in dating/ relationships?*a woman posting sexualized pictures. *a woman going out wearing revealing clothing. *a woman getting too friendly/comfortable with other men why do you omit details? it doesn't make your argument stronger, we can all read the OP, it makes it weaker. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 03:13 AM |
| 2 | Q4W: Why do women get so much more leeway in terms of being insecure/jealous in dating/ relationships?it's not just in romantic context. women get lighter sentences in the court of law, women get more leeway when it comes to emotional outbursts or even outright displays of low levels of violence against their partner in public too for example. either way, you are 100% correct in regards to what's mostly causing it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 03:09 AM |
| 0 | Q4W: Why do women get so much more leeway in terms of being insecure/jealous in dating/ relationships?you're right, it's impossible to not post thirst traps or dress a certain way when going to places that are notorious for men approaching women, hookups happening etc. i mean, i can walk through the hood at 4 am wearing a rolex and playing some game on the latest iphone but if i get robbed my friends will still tell me i'm a dumbass even though i can't control other people breaking the law. i doubt women would ever do something so stupid, it's almost like they recognize that it increases the lik… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 03:01 AM |
| 2 | Q4W: Why do women get so much more leeway in terms of being insecure/jealous in dating/ relationships?i agree with the first point but not the second. i think very it's rational and discerning to not invest into women who exhibit attention seeking behavior long-term. but yes, the guys are at fault for tolerating this non-sense and getting into relationships with women who act this way. you do it to yourselves brothers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 02:58 AM |
| -1 | Q4W: Why do women get so much more leeway in terms of being insecure/jealous in dating/ relationships?you can't stop men from thirsting but if you realize that then maybe you should not do things that invite more of that type of attention if you are in a relationship? you know out of respect for your partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 02:56 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: Why do women get so much more leeway in terms of being insecure/jealous in dating/ relationships?so posting those photos is not asking/looking for sexual attention but liking them is giving sexual attention? so the sexual element is somehow tied to the like itself? doesn't make any sense to me personally. i think some women just want to keep external validation and attention flowing even when they're in a relationship because it makes them feel good and they try to find excuses for why it is okay. why can't you take a photo and keep it in an album at home if it's just capturing a memory? wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 02:51 AM |
| 6 | Q4W: Why do women get so much more leeway in terms of being insecure/jealous in dating/ relationships?there's a difference between leaving the house and wearing revealing outfits when going to night clubs or posting thirst traps for attention online. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 02:47 AM |
| 2 | Q4W: Why do women get so much more leeway in terms of being insecure/jealous in dating/ relationships?the issue with that is that even in the most egalitarian societies, except maybe some scandinavian countries, men are still the ones playing the active role when it comes to approaching and pursuing. given the social context, simply making 1:1 comparisons doesn't make too much sense to me. it's also a pretty simplistic way of putting things. if the woman in question didn't wear revealing outfits while going out to night clubs or posted thirst traps, there wouldn't be nearly as many men acting on… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 02:44 AM |
| 2 | The disparity between good men and good womenthat doesn't really answer my question. if women frequently have bad dating outcomes in terms of being rejected for long-term relationships, is it them? i'm not talking about cases of SA or other things like that to be clear. i've lurked on female subreddits in the past and i can honestly say that i don't think i have seen a single woman tell another woman that she's the problem if all she can get are hookups and situationships. at best the problem with her is her selection pattern, never a pote… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 02:35 AM |
| 0 | Men don't ask women to have low standards, they ask women to have realistic onesi highly doubt that there are just as many men doing that, but it's going to be difficult to prove definitively guess. most dating type of content online in general is made by women though, there are statistics on that at least. people on social media at least partially reflect the cultural zeitgeist today. there's not just hundreds of creators who put out this type of content, there are also millions of real people following them. besides, is any of this type of discussion even occurring offlin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 02:22 AM |
| 12 | Why do they say that there are no benefits in a man having a woman as a friend?i specifically mentioned romance and building an emotional connection, yet you came to this conclusion? it seems like you aren't engaging in anything resembling a good faith argument or discussion. if sex and occasional female company was all i cared about i would have been single instead of being in those relationships btw. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 02:05 AM |
| 3 | What do you think of this paper from Cambridge promoting single motherhood and marginalization of low value men to solve the fertility crisis ?the paper literally talks about the marginalization of men and women receiving money so it's not exactly an equally beneficial program, no matter what the stated end goal is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 01:57 AM |
| 0 | What do you think of this paper from Cambridge promoting single motherhood and marginalization of low value men to solve the fertility crisis ?well, for one women contribute less taxes so there's that. in fact average earning women (aka most women) are net tax beneficiaries, not net contributors in the US. on the other hand the comment specifically pointed out that women need men's resources less and less and even if it's not exclusively men's resources to fund single motherhood as outlined by the paper, it is primarily. that's why there's a distinction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 01:55 AM |
| 1 | Men don't ask women to have low standards, they ask women to have realistic oneswhat of what i said suggested transactional relationships in any way? in healthy relationships people compliment each other and both contribute. if you have expectations for a romantic partner, so will the other person. you start of by calling out the quality of men and when i respond with what boils down to 'women are not all that either' i'm the one who makes it transactional? make it make sense please. you can have a laundry list of expectations as a woman but men should just take you however… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 01:46 AM |
| 1 | Men don't ask women to have low standards, they ask women to have realistic onesif you don't care about the things the opposite sex cares about, don't be surprised if quality people are not interested. i don't mind it at all, just don't externalize the blame and insult men collectively in that case. if it wasn't for that i would never even comment on this kinda topic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 01:43 AM |
| 1 | Men don't ask women to have low standards, they ask women to have realistic onesi can't answer why other guys do what they do but i think a sense of arrogance and somewhat delusional self-perception is something that can irk many people. i don't think women would respond well when guys they deem undesirable or average at best put out a laundry list of expectations for women on the internet. that content isn't very common though and women do frequently shame men for having certain standards, outright calling them predators, insulting their manhood, calling them insecure and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 01:35 AM |
| 1 | Men don't ask women to have low standards, they ask women to have realistic onesmen aren't the ones posting tiktoks of their laundry list of expectations for a woman. and guys who say stuff like wanting a traditional woman without a double digit body count, or a younger woman, or someone who knows how to cook or isn't on SSRIs, or isn't masculine or whatever else are virtually always insulted by women for having those standards. they aren't told that it's unrealistic, they're told they're bad people. women who don't blame external factors and are happily single don't really… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 01:26 AM |
| 2 | Men don't ask women to have low standards, they ask women to have realistic onesyou can't gaslight me with claims of solipsism when i've seen it happen first hand enough times IRL and online. plenty of women sleep with men for validation, you can literally ask any AI or look for research yourself and you will get an answer like this: Yes, seeking validation is a documented reason why some women engage in casual sex. It is often categorized as a "non-autonomous" motive linked to different psychological outcomes than physical pleasure. so where exactly is the validation comin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 12:39 AM |
| 2 | Why do they say that there are no benefits in a man having a woman as a friend?i'm sure that liberal urban areas in the US are different culturally compared to more traditional/conservative societies, like where i live (eastern europe), no doubt about that. but even having lived in western europe before, i can't say that i ever heard of a group of straight guys going out to an art gallery together. maybe just the type of crowd i was around when growing up there but i highly doubt that men on average enjoy things like art galleries, musicals, the theatre etc. as much as wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 12:24 AM |
| 3 | Why do they say that there are no benefits in a man having a woman as a friend?well this thread is asking redpillers specifically, that's why i mentioned that. i've always just been naturally wired that way since i grew up before i ever heard of anything like RP. i had a few close female friends but for the most part my friends were almost always guys. i never felt it limited me in any way, i didn't seek out men exclusively for platonic friendship because of some pre-conceived notion about women, i just had more in common with them, shared hobbies etc. and naturally enjoye… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 12:18 AM |
| 5 | Why do they say that there are no benefits in a man having a woman as a friend?well, i'm not looking for marriage but i've been in a handful of long-term and happy relationships and always enjoyed spending time with my gfs. it's a different dynamic though, when you have chemistry and flirt or tease each other a bit, there's some polarity and so on. i appreciate and adore feminine traits in a romantic partner just like most women appreciate masculine traits in theirs. like, there's obviously an element of romance, it's not just a friendship. but i also really liked their pe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 12:10 AM |
| 6 | Why do they say that there are no benefits in a man having a woman as a friend?what does it say about them exactly? they're mostly married or in relationships, their wives/gfs seem very happy, most have kids, they are successful and contribute to society, close with their families, social and well-liked by those around them, some volunteer etc. but because they prefer the company of men platonically they're deficient somehow? because they are into stereotypically masculine things and hobbies and relate better to other guys? lmao ok, whatever you need to believe to not shat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/26 11:57 PM |
| 9 | Why do they say that there are no benefits in a man having a woman as a friend?good banter and sense of humor for one but sharing similar interests obviously contributes to a fun dynamic as well. when i hang out with my friends we talk about all kinds of interesting stuff, from science to philosophy, politics, technology, life experiences, sports, current events, our hobbies and so on. my friends are hilarious and witty, we roast each other every now and then when bantering, we enjoy the same activities more or less, we have similar world views but are always open minded t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/26 09:55 PM |
| 1 | Why do they say that there are no benefits in a man having a woman as a friend?not really, certainly not always. not every male-female friendship has this friendzone dynamic. not saying that it doesn't happen a bunch but that's not really a genuine friendship to begin with. guys should definitely stay clear of that non-sense, idk why some put themselves in that position at all honestly. however i've been friends with attractive women i had no romantic interest in a few times throughout life. i didn't pedestalize/pine for them and comment on all of their social media posts … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/26 09:19 PM |
| 4 | Why do they say that there are no benefits in a man having a woman as a friend?different strokes for different folks. in my experience, traditionally masculine men (or typical man's men) don't tend to seek out close friendships with women. they'd rather have a beer with the boys, go golfing, watch sports, play cards while bantering etc. than go to the theatre or an art gallery, see a musical or have dinner with a group of female friends or chat about their feelings. not that there's anything wrong with the latter, it just doesn't appeal to a lot of men of that demographic.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/26 09:12 PM |
| 3 | What do you mean exactly when you say that men are “disappointing”?i'm curious, do you think that most women make good wives and mothers? are the women that the men you described would be interested in in high supply? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/26 08:52 PM |
| 19 | Why do they say that there are no benefits in a man having a woman as a friend?the amount of women i've met who are as interesting and fun to hangout with as my guys friends are in the low single digits and we're talking about literal decades here in terms of timeframe. i think men and women have fundamentally different experiences and most of us can relate better to people of our own gender. we are more likely to share interests, have similar communication styles and so on. i don't think any of my friends really have close female friends either unless it's like a couple t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/26 08:16 PM |
| 2 | Handsome and Socially intelligent dude tries for 6 months in dating apps and failing miserably, shows that as a man if you want playtime, you must make dating your everything to get anything in the dating marketjust remember that the same women tell 4s and 5s with makeup that they're stunning and beautiful all the time. lowkey hilarious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/26 08:01 PM |
| 3 | Men don't ask women to have low standards, they ask women to have realistic onesmen get direct feedback relating to their desirability on the apps. we can't sleep with women out of our league, it doesn't work like that. only women have the illusion of choice on OLD and it makes me chuckle when i read women blaming that exact factor on why men don't commit. no becky, the guy you like has actual choice and he's choosing someone else. you're the one with the illusions, not him. the critique regarding porn is valid and it definitely impacts men. plenty of people are pointing th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/26 07:35 PM |
| 1 | Men don't ask women to have low standards, they ask women to have realistic onesmost women are mid ass too. have all the standards you want but don't be upset when people think you live in lala land for expecting a guy who would have to settle for you because you don't want to 'settle'. especially not if you blame it all on the lack of quality men, practically insulting an entire gender. /e: downvoted because women can't be mid i guess and they all deserve prince charming of course. it's all men's fault after all and not the fact that we've seen increases in BMI, single mot… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/26 07:31 PM |
| 0 | Men don't ask women to have low standards, they ask women to have realistic onesif you're unable to get what you ask/look for, it's unrealistic by definition. now you can have all the unrealistic standards you want in whatever area of life, just don't blame other people for the lack of outcomes you seek. women frequently do this in dating by blaming the quality of men for their permanent single status for example - which of course will create pushback on the narrative from men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/26 07:27 PM |
| 2 | Men don't ask women to have low standards, they ask women to have realistic onesi never had troubles getting a date and i still recognize that many of the chronically single online dating women have unrealistic standards. that's not all women of course and plenty of women are still in relationships and marriages, it's just a very loud group of women that has increased in size over the past decade or so. it's no sweat off my back, i'm not interested in them anyway, i just call a spade a spade. maybe young women can learn from the mistakes of the women before them and recogni… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/26 07:20 PM |
| 0 | Men don't ask women to have low standards, they ask women to have realistic onesit's not realistic when you're chronically single and complain about dating 24/7. women with realistic standards end up in relationships and marriages, not on tinder for years on end. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/26 07:13 PM |
| 3 | Men don't ask women to have low standards, they ask women to have realistic oneslook at what a lot of these women bring to the table these days. they're not the catches women like to pretend they are, the quality of women has deteriorated when it comes to a lot of metrics men actually care about over the past years and decades. if you're low quality but expect high quality men, it ain't gonna work out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/26 07:07 PM |
| 4 | Men don't ask women to have low standards, they ask women to have realistic oneswomen are not complaining about dating? where do you live, on the moon? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/26 07:05 PM |
| 4 | Men don't ask women to have low standards, they ask women to have realistic onesnot all of these women are content though (far from it actually). plenty are frustrated about their single status, they want to find someone, they complain about dating and they often blame a lack of quality men. there are lots of threads in female subreddits for example, plenty of other social media content, plenty of women complaining in their circle of friends etc. i honestly don't care about their outcomes aka the consequences of their own own actions as long as they don't deflect it onto me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/26 07:02 PM |
| 6 | Dating is harder for men in their 30s vs their 20s due to increased market efficiencyif you're experienced with women (aka you were able to attract them when younger) it doesn't get easier at all in my experience. just think about it: around college age guys are surrounded by attractive young women on a daily basss, a lot of whom are pre-vetted to some degree due to sharing social circles etc, the expectations are to just have a good time and feel a connection rather than having some checklist written up, a high percentage of women are single, most women don't have kids yet and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/26 06:41 PM |
| 13 | What do you think of this paper from Cambridge promoting single motherhood and marginalization of low value men to solve the fertility crisis ?'women don't need men for resources, let's give them men's resources through the government to be single moms' | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/26 06:28 PM |
| 2 | The disparity between good men and good womeni've mostly dated these types of women since i was a teenager (although fireworks etc. can definitely come later) and they aren't all that common depending on where you live and what other traits you look for. i really haven't seen many men go for the rollercoaster trainwrecks when looking for actual relationships, romance, love and wives to be honest. at least in my circles these women were almost exclusively sought out for casual short-term fun, literally none of my friends married a woman who… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/26 05:37 AM |
| 3 | The disparity between good men and good womendo you tell women who complain about dating the same thing or is it all empathy and blaming the men in that case? because that's seems to be the infinitely more common occurrence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/26 05:25 AM |
| 3 | The disparity between good men and good womenso just like all the women out there who say that there are so many more women who are catches compared to men i guess? don't get me wrong, i agree with you but it goes both ways. i've seen women refer to complete trainwrecks as catches, completely lacking any perspective on what these women are like in a relationship and what men actually value when it comes to women. they almost never list qualities that i would find enticing in a romantic relationship and conveniently ignore the list of negat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/26 05:22 AM |
| 1 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itinteresting, because checking out a couple of threads on there i've seen: - a gif that said 'i hate men' - referring to short guys as manlets in a thread about men body shaming women - 'i wish we would have' regarding a post about how women don't abuse men in various ways - 'women are more intelligent than men' 'women are superior' type of comments (literal quotes) - calling a guy a dirty redneck who doesn't wash for having a gf out of his league (actual comment was worse, i'm paraphrasing) - a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/26 04:50 AM |
| 2 | Getting women to lower their standards will just trap you in a passionless relationshipseeing things on TV or in a magazine is not the same as real life interactions women have with people they can meet on dating apps or even just online interactions. not to mention that a very different social and cultural narrative was pushed on TV by media companies in the 50s or whatever. people lived mostly in the real world and the internet is a completely different animal compared to simple television. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/26 04:33 AM |
| 1 | Getting women to lower their standards will just trap you in a passionless relationshipi never said that it doesn't affect men but that isn't the topic. i actually made another post specifically referencing porn and that it affects men today. when it comes to online dating, the male and female experiences are fundamentally different. guys don't have an illusion of choice because they're not getting countless of matches and dates. men are rejected on the frontend while women are often rejected on the backend. men have significantly different/lower standards for casual dating/hookup… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/26 04:28 AM |
| 1 | I feel like men being the sole providers is an unrealistic expectation in 2026.this type of mentality has become more common with more young women listening to mostly chronically single online dating coaches, who in some cases have hundreds of thousands if not millions of followers. it might not be as extreme as portrayed by the OP but it exists. certainly not the norm though i'd say but you can't really dismiss the impact of this type of social media content entirely when there's so much talk about the manosphere and it's influence on young men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/26 01:19 AM |
| 1 | Getting women to lower their standards will just trap you in a passionless relationshipsome people seem to forget that our brains are not wired to deal with the large numbers we do see online today, on social media and dating apps. there's a concept called dunbar's number, essentially reflecting our tribal roots and how it shaped our biology. humans are notoriously bad at conceptualizing and estimating large numbers and online dating with it's rather anonymous nature creates an illusion of choice as a result - a sometimes completely inaccurate perception of objective reality if yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/26 01:12 AM |
| 4 | Getting women to lower their standards will just trap you in a passionless relationshiptrying to make women lower their standards doesn't work anyway and it's a bad idea to begin with as you pointed out - there are however cultural and technological factors that have influenced modern women's dating standards to begin with. it's not just the fact that women 'don't need men anymore', the dating landscape didn't look the way it does today before the advent of modern social media platforms and dating apps becoming mainstream (as well as other factors such as widespread online pornogr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/26 12:38 AM |
| 2 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itit's kinda ironic that you mention that subreddit when the comments you see there are often just as vile in the way they talk about men and there's the reverse version 'womenarenotintomen' as well. those subs are also pretty fringe i'd say (like this one), but you can read plenty of completely normalized insults aimed at men in very mainstream female subs too. literal talking points that feminists criticize the patriarchy for, like men over 35 being undatable, how most men are trash and women ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/26 11:59 PM |
| 2 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itfirst of all, dating related content on social media is primarily made by women for women. yes, there is all kinds of content and commentary but this whataboutism is missing the point. plenty of women put out content that insults men with great passion too, plenty of people put out all kinds of content online in general. the existence of other content doesn't mean you can't or shouldn't discuss or critique any particular content type. being confident is not the same thing as being delusional, se… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/26 06:38 PM |
| 1 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itcan you link the studies? besides, just because something can happen doesn't mean it's an inherent issue. men going abroad are generally not inflicting more suffering, otherwise the women there wouldn't date them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/26 08:34 AM |
| 2 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with iti 100% agree. when i left western europe i didn't struggle with dating at all, it was for entirely different reasons. my dating life improving to the point that i won't ever use a dating app or ask random women out when i'm back home is just a nice bonus. unfortunately not everyone can do it and some don't want to because of family/friends or other factors but it's a great opportunity for multiple reasons. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/26 08:29 AM |
| 2 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with iti agree with working on yourself and becoming your best version but it shouldn't be for women. besides, are women really working on becoming better gfs and wives in today's western world? you hear this notion from women about how they leveled up and men fell behind, yet it's almost always focused on socio-economic factors. what about BMI, average partner count, average age of marriage, desire to have kids, political/cultural leanings, % of women who do sex work, number of single moms in the dati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/26 08:25 AM |
| 2 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itspeaking of natural imbalances - who is saying that equal rights are natural? it's a social construct that we've created as a society, not natural law. there are plenty things happening in nature that we have decided to regulate collectively. not saying that we should get rid of that or anything but i find that people conveniently use nature as an explanation when it suits their argument while overlooking the implications it carries for things that are completely against their own world views. i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/26 08:13 AM |
| 1 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itthe dating market is not equal in the west either because men and women are not equal biologically to begin with. dating platforms, which are used by over half of the dating-age population illustrate this very clearly. the gender ratio is hugely imbalanced and women receive a lot more attention, likes, matches and so on. non-monogamy is a lot more normalized in the west than anywhere else, especially when coupled with plausible deniability - when you look at what's happening on the apps, it's es… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/26 08:08 AM |
| 1 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itdifferent strokes for different folks i guess. i'm a white westener and mid white girls do nothing for me. dating women from different cultures has pros and cons but i found it to be a refreshing experience, especially with where western culture has been heading over the past decades. i wouldn't want to deal with somebody with completely incompatible views and values of course but if anything i've found women from other countries to be more aligned with me on average. the whole league thing is a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/26 07:42 AM |
| 0 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itplenty of western women want the best but most of them aren't the best. there are guys who are average or even above average exploring their options abroad too, because they can do better there compared to what's on offer in their home country. i met some of them in person because i lived in some of these countries, unlike many commentators in these type of threads who probably never even left the US. most of them don't just travel for women necessarily but it's often a part of the equation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/26 07:35 AM |
| 2 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with ityou're right that it's 2026 - and it's not just obese boomers with poor grooming habits and bad hygiene doing it at this point. the LBH stereotype exists for a reason but it doesn't apply to everyone. if you're not a complete loser you won't suddenly become one when choosing to explore dating options abroad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/26 07:31 AM |
| 3 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itthe amount of self-proclaimed average af 'baddies' i see when briefly scrolling social media is certainly something. not all women are like that ofc but the amount of followers, comments, likes etc. some of these tiktok princesses and dating coaches have should be concerning to anyone who likes to talk about the negative influence of manosphere content. what's ironic is that covering these women is like half of the manosphere content to begin with lol. the dating pool has plenty of women wearing… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/26 07:26 AM |
| 2 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itthese women enter these relationships out of free will - they wouldn't if they didn't see it as a good or arguably their best option. their motives can vary of course but the point stands regardless. they're certainly not all living in mud huts and fighting starvation as some people like to pretend in these discussions. it's not like some of the countries men typically go to for the purpose of dating/marriage have a plethora of great local options for the women and what's considered average in t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/26 07:21 AM |
| 3 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itpeople are concerned with their own outcomes in life first and foremost. it's normal. it's not like these guys made the rules, they're just adapting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/26 07:06 AM |
| 2 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with iti wouldn't say it's the only option but it's a valid one, although i wouldn't recommend going abroad without working on yourself first. i've lived in some of these typical PPB countries and many western men who date local women over there are overweight, don't groom, dress like a 13 year old, have bad posture, poor social skills and so on. those things are almost entirely in your control (some maybe less so than others but still) and the guys who fit that stereotypical LBH archetype are almost e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/26 06:59 AM |
| 1 | One of the worst pieces of dating advice men get is "forget the apps, just talk to women in person"i don't get zero matches on apps but either way i have more success with higher quality women IRL. the idea of looking for something serious on the apps is ridiculous to me honestly, quality women don't have to resort to dating apps for the most part. at least when it comes to traits and characteristics i value personally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 05:49 PM |
| 0 | Passport Brooing is nothing different then cheaper Escort Spamming.only if the guy is an actual loser. if he's a handsome and young 6'2'' dude with charisma and social skills, only delusional people would call him that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 05:46 PM |
| 1 | Passport Brooing is nothing different then cheaper Escort Spamming.grab a dictionary, read up on the definition of slavery and maybe think about how you trivialize slavery with non-sense like this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 05:44 PM |
| 2 | Passport Brooing is nothing different then cheaper Escort Spamming.some guys don't have to, they choose to. probably not solely because of dating abroad but also because they enjoy travelling, lower cost of living etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 05:43 PM |
| 2 | Passport Brooing is nothing different then cheaper Escort Spamming.it's not even cheaper unless you work minimum wage and don't factor in time as a cost, so i don't think this is really true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 05:41 PM |
| 1 | Passport Brooing is nothing different then cheaper Escort Spamming.i can pull women in western europe without flashing any money but when i date a thai woman suddenly she'd only be with me for cash? because it's obviously assumed that a western man makes considerably more even if you don't advertise it. according to that logic women are unable to be genuinely attracted to rich men, even if they're good looking/charismatic etc i guess? a lot of the old unkept dudes you see at tourist hotspots in thailand etc are obviously engaging in transactions and some of the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 05:31 PM |
| 1 | Passport Brooing is nothing different then cheaper Escort Spamming.i have travelled a lot and lived abroad in multiple countries and i never paid women to sleep with me. also met plenty of younger guys who enjoyed dating and hooking up with women in places like thailand or colombia (or other, richer countries). not every PPB is a 65 year old dude with a gut who is doing budget sugar dating or sleeping with hookers. i've seen a bunch of international couples that seemed a lot more genuine than a lot i've seen in the west. you can tell when a woman actually likes… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 05:20 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Many men are genuinely intimidated by successful women because it disrupts traditional relationship dynamics.i can't speak for all men but i certainly don't feel that way. i'm doing well financially and i don't want to be with women who are with me for financial reasons - so in theory it would be a plus if anything. high income in itself however is simply not high on my priority list and women in my income bracket are rare to begin with, especially where i live now, so i just never ended up actually dating a career power woman or w/e. in my experience these types of women don't tend to possess traits t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 02:47 AM |
| 1 | Men are told to open up more. The only thing they open up about is women not fucking them. And then wonder why it's backfiring 🤦♂️i for one am not looking to get fucked by women, i'm not into pegging and all that. most straight guys aren't. not that i'd complain about any lack of it to anyone, let alone women though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 01:42 AM |
| -1 | “Pair bonding™️” feels like a self-serving male fantasy about how men wished women attached to menwomen who have been fucked by multiple men fall out of love easier and unlike your claim that is actually supported by data regarding infidelity, divorce rates and relationship satisfaction. what does that data tell is if not showing a negative correlation between promiscuity and pair bonding? there's also a huge number of 'normal' women between prudes and 'hoes'. i'm not interested in policing or shaming anyone's sex life but pretending that promiscuous women are a good bet for long-term commit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 01:38 AM |
| – | It is the government’s job to fix the male loneliness issueat the cost of higher crime rates, the general safety of women and tax money - at least in western/central/northern europe. the effect of unchecked mass migration is probably the #1 reason people heavily swung to the right in europe over the past years in the first place - not incels or politicians catering to them. ironically most of the people coming in are not exactly liberal, egalitarian and progressive either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 12:52 AM |
| – | It is the government’s job to fix the male loneliness issue[ Removed by Reddit ] | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 12:33 AM |
| 1 | It is the government’s job to fix the male loneliness issueoh no, not DEI. as somebody not from the US the entire concept is ridiculous no matter where you stand politically. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 12:32 AM |
| 1 | Older men don't understand how undesirable they are to younger womenyou convinced me, i will only date age appropriate women from now on. unfortunately i am entirely unable to tell when a woman is into me and when i do or do not have sex, so thanks for clarifying everything. btw, anyone can pick anecdotes that support their narrative. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 12:29 AM |
| 8 | Older men don't understand how undesirable they are to younger womenand attractive guys can pull younger women if they stay attractive. OP's narrative is cope from older women and man-hating 'feminists'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 12:14 AM |
| 6 | Older men don't understand how undesirable they are to younger womenyeah sure, every single woman in an age gap relationship cheats because that's the reality you want to live in. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 12:12 AM |
| 1 | Passport broing should unironically be illegalthe idea that only romantically unsuccessful men can enjoy dating abroad is absolutely laughable. guys moving abroad, working online, digital nomads etc. are getting younger and younger and most of them are not social shut-ins that can't get any women in the west. i know because i've been part of those circles for most of my 20s and i can tell you that plenty of guys who have no issues dating in western countries still prefer dating foreign women. not all but it's a matter of preference and you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 12:34 PM |
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