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I’m just not sure where I wrote that they were always correlated? Or that I even mentioned penis size here. Hey, thanks for taking the time to respond. I thought your comment was great honestly, I only chose to respond on the the potentially incorrect thing which perhaps I read wrong. Your quote is 'If it’s just something physical and/or temporary then sure, taller might be a fun time. Extra torso, limb, appendage length/size are nice.' If you read that quote from beginning to end with no huge p…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 11:42 AM
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It’s clear why imo - women are on average more risk averse than men, which likely results in a slower transition from a COVID dominated and locked down world. Most men will be taking all their chances they can get while many women will opt for precaution over short term flings for the time being.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 04:06 PM
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"I said what I said" doesn't help defend your incorrect presumption that "women are more on point with their hygiene" (on average). Your belief is based on false presumptions around aesthetics, or assuming the 0.1% scenarios you come across apply to an entire gender, and I'm sure you've argued plenty on this forum against the idea of grouping entire genders into small boxes. Unbelievable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 05:09 PM
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I think more guys are staying home Smaller pool of people I guess then and thus a smaller chance of seeing as many attractive men, rather than, for example, an implication that there are less attractive men in existence/ men getting lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 05:06 PM
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Don't expect anyone to take you serious, respect your opinion or consider you empathetic, fair or caring human being if you go around selectively applying rules only that benefit yourself then. Not sure how else to point out the importance of logical consistency and issue with personal bias. Apply deeper thought and cognisance, not flat out solipsism. P.S. Fry memes are some of humanity's greatest work lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 04:43 PM
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Again I said MOST men. Can’t you see that you needed to use such an extremely overt example of greasy hair and stained clothes to support your argument? Of course there is a correlation right there. You can’t say “most men” have poor hygiene then go on to describe a 0.1% scenario. Meanwhile, plenty of the women who can’t leave the house without makeup and form fitting clothes may be assumed to be more hygienic than the average male who couldn’t give a flying fuck about perfect his hair is for a …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 04:09 PM
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Because “trying our best to make it fair as possible” would add pure fuel to the fire of the argument that is 80/20 hypergamy rule, 80% of women initiating divorce and all other numbers and stats that support the idea that the sexual marketplace is massively unfair/ and imbalanced in favour of women. You’re taking a moralistic stance that you can’t selectively apply as you (personally) deem appropriate. Going to take a moment to acknowledge I’m not in support of enforced monogamy or similar, I’m…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 04:06 PM
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It also doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t try our best to make life as fair as possible. You're also walking a treacherous path by using this exact point in the context of hypergamy, monogamy and arguable implications these things have on societal well being.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 01:46 PM
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100 percent agreed, getting personal is rarely helpful although I acknowledge I have been guilty of that in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 01:44 PM
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masks perhaps playing some part then
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 01:43 PM
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No man who understands female sex drive is writing posts on Reddit about what percentage of stranger men women see that they are “attracted to” and meaning “want to fuck on sight.” Well riddle me this - what men are going around the city centre where you live and asking 50-100 women i.e. however many replied here today, how many men they come across that are attractive day to day... absolutely none, it doesn't happen/ doing it is very difficult logistically, politically and socially. Do you need…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 11:21 AM
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Just wanted to chime in briefly and offer my appreciation for how neutral, polite, welcoming and open you have been to everyones points throughout this thread, it's been very enjoyable to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 11:11 AM
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but there doesn't seem to be as many hot guys as there were in the past. How far in the past are we talking? Maybe its shifting hormone levels on your part.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 10:58 AM
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I laughed at this, can't remember the last time I laughed on reddit, ty.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 10:53 AM
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I find that more women are on point with their hygiene aesthetics =/= hygiene. Don't suggest most men's hygiene isn't taken care of just because they aren't as well groomed visually in the face/ hair or wear makeup, it's absolutely absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 10:50 AM
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These types of redundant low effort gotcha questions you think questions used to understand female sex drive are "redundant"? It's mostly women who aim to get across to men that they have lower sex drives/ appetites for sex e.g. the low appeal of casual. it's not all about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 10:49 AM
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and I didn’t find the guy attractive. We still dated for 8 years though. What....
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 10:36 AM
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So it’s mens fault they don’t speak (nor should want to) speak the mythical language of womanese? I pray you don’t moan about Nice Guys 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 03:20 PM
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Red Pill and all you described is not mainstream knowledge, feminism absolutely is. Red Pill men HAVE experienced the ills pertaining to it, that is how they came across it, adoption is rational on their behalf…. However, these specific women I describe have NOT. It’s a shame you describe an ideology based around men being bad/ oppressing women/ being bad actors as “doesn’t mean these girls have no use for it”…. The use of an entire gender is bad? Claiming men are misogynists? Honestly, seems li…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 03:12 PM
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Sure, I’m sorry you experienced this in the workplace, it totally sucks and I’m sure it does happen. I believe you entirely but I’m not sure how widespread this is, whether this can be generalised to an entire gender and thus feminism or if it’s just a minority. I tried to get across with my anecdotes that it’s 1) girls who haven’t experienced a need for feminism themselves but assume the worst of an entire gender instead (look up the definition of feminism, it reads “man bad”, and they spout th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 01:41 PM
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Good thing men follow definitions of words rather than follow female-only urban dictionary slang helped through Hollywood scripts influencing culture then. Don’t call men “idiotic” for that, sheesh.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 01:09 PM
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No, the average 18-21 year old successful woman at uni with an affluent family does NOT experience a fight to become CEO in a Fortune 500 company, or experienced genuine “oppression” in their lives, I know because I know enough about them r.e. work, student, social groups, upbringing etc. That is the whole point, they have experienced none of this shit or at best imagined the talking points I specifically mentioned despite happily saying they are feminists or believe in it and and absolutely vie…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 01:07 PM
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But begs the question then - why are men failing? It does, wish I have time to deep-dive into this question but I don't unfortunately, enjoyed reading through your discussion about it with another person though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 10:46 AM
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I'm also from the UK. Maybe 50% is exaggerating by a fair amount given I don't talk to half of the women around me. Classic talking points are "toxic masculinity" or "mansplaining" coming up in a convo unironically somehow, the classic "women are oppressed" and "x % of CEO's in Fortune 500 are male" etc. etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 10:44 AM
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one word - raw unfiltered solipsism.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 10:31 AM
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Now that solutions being targeted specifically at how the woman’s brain works, are finally starting to emerge, you men loose your shit. The classroom and the modern day rules and structures around it was always a far superior learning method and environment to women than it was men. Won't expand, this has been discussed at depth.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 10:29 AM
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(not realising the average woman has nothing to do with feminism?) unfortunately in my experience easily 50% of women in my day to day life in uni/ work and ex's identify as feminists or strongly believing in feminism as a concept, most of those being able to rattle off feminist talking points but failing to enter into a deep discussion about it if somebody questioned/ asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 10:26 AM
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but he has to be at least described as "cute" (the way women use it, not the idiotic way men describe it) ah yes, "my way or the highway" and "anyone that doesn't agree with me is idiotic!"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 10:20 AM
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Throwing out random numbers? i lived there for half a fucking decade. Personal anecdotes =/= statistics
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 10:14 AM
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You believe 10% of men under 5’5” in US & UK (pure genetics) is “very few people” AND peoples lives are a “non-issue”? Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 06:14 PM
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What surgery did you get and why? Profound difference visually or minor/ unnoticeable to friends or family?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 06:05 PM
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Np np
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 09:47 PM
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It wasn’t casting shade towards conservatism but a genuine thank you. The so called “patriarchy” of old clearly had at least some* evidence based reasoning for the cultural belief that men should present as masculine with confidence and keep back complaining or unproductive recognition of weaknesses (seeking emotional support from your female partner is more than likely damaging to your relationship).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 05:49 PM
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It’s compounded by the fact men are told to (and should if trying to maximise sexual appeal to women, thank you conservatism) minimise weaknesses both actual and perceived to the outside world. Not only does this include short stature but also things suggesting of a weak mindset (lack of confidence) aka top 3 or top 4 attraction signal to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 05:36 PM
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If it was such a “problem” dating apps wouldn’t ask you UPFRONT how tall you are. Bottom lines of the companies that own and design the dating apps benefit from it, doesn't make something justifiable or not a problem (won't bother taking the time expand as to why this is). "Problem for the but not for me!". Not surprised you continue to think in such a close minded and solipsistic way.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 01:31 AM
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Height and weight are both measured using numbers. If you fail to see the contradiction then it’s no wonder you’re being made to look utterly foolish and contradictory through this thread by multiple people.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 05:57 PM
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Several people have laid it out in front you what is wrong with it, I won’t repeat them, keep living in immoral delusion. I’m happy many men are unknowingly dodging a bullet that which is yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 05:56 PM
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You’re right it brings nothing to the discussion, I accept that. However, the fact you believe men have “standards” even in that sense of the word peaks my interest. What are the standards for 80-90% of men (average males)? Younger/ same age as us Don’t be overly fat (thicc is even in now so overweight is fine for most) Be pleasant to be around (kind, not hostile, non-combative) That. is. it. I’m not going to list the height, physique, money/ occupation, personality demands the average woman bet…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 05:52 PM
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Sure, but case in point, take a read of this woman's explanation --> https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/rwvmyw/comment/hrh9qyj/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 12:40 PM
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Why are you choosing to contradict yourself with each message you send r.e. "it's just a number" lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 12:31 PM
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You’re not going to “call me out” over a question that is socially acceptable "Other people are c*nts so it's fine for me also to be a c*nt at the expense of others!" Absolute mindless drone with zero care of empathy. Yikes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 12:27 PM
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They genuinely want to know because they have standards just like you do It's not a "standard" as though its some major quality like intelligence lol, it's merely a vapid pointless requirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 12:24 PM
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Apparently so. Very ironic that us 2 are reading this of all people.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 01:40 AM
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I agree with that for the most part, and although I disagree entirely with your flair I don’t disagree with the immutable being way more important than the developed. When you consider intelligence and general personality are highly genetic this is undeniably true. Thus, anyone who believes in anything big akin to blank slate theory is woefully mistaken.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 07:33 PM
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The idea that weight training stunts growth or carbs make you fat have also been around in day to day language for a very long time… turns out both are bullshit myths and completely contradictory to the scientific consensus since studies began on these topics. Hope this makes you rethink your preconceived notions on all manner of things in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 07:29 PM
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It’s a very cool word to describe an archetype in a positive light, which is very hard to come by these days r.e. short men specifically. Awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 07:28 PM
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Very well said, true and a good read, thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 11:50 AM
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The dumbest thing is, it's a proven fact that men have physical appearance as their number 1 priority when it comes to dating. Yet most women have stronger appearance cut offs/ requirements/ preferences than the average man (even if the physical not her #1 priority, women are pickier across the board as we know from studies and real life). It is SO rare for men to state they "very strongly prefer big boobs" without saying "but happy with any" following, yet THE NORM to hear women say "has to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 11:45 AM
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Respectable insight (if it's true). However, I'm of strong belief self-improvement IS attractive (r.e. your current flair saying the opposite), both the attitude that comes with it and the benefits (in which the science is undeniable, overwhelming majority of studies show muscularity to be a bigger selling point to women than height). You've got this, self aware, intelligent friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 11:42 AM
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I've talked to enough short men and not one if them has brought up bad treatment men are hurt socially when they admit to weakness, especially to women. it is more likely the average male will hide experiences that look poorly on them to women when asked, 'yes i was mocked/ criticised negatively in the past by peers, significantly enough that i can recall them today'. makes sense given how much social proof and social success/ confidence plays a part in female attraction towards males.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 11:36 AM
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although if you personally struggle with this insecurity it can certainly seem that way. Constantly communicated dating preferences (and often requirements) from females are not self projected made up fantasies from men, but yes the insecurity can make one hyper aware and cognisant of it all to ones own detriment.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 11:31 AM
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height isn't something that anyone is especially pressed about. I'm sorry but this is very untrue. Most interactions around height in dating may not be overt mockery, only some, but it doesn't mean the covert (but still confirmed) isn't omnipresent in modern sexual dynamics. Simply read from the other women in this thread who self admittedly draw major personality assumptions based on height alone ... "short men tend to be x", "tall men tend to be x" etc. In work alone a 23 year old female manag…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 11:25 AM
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I'm 6' in heels and like a tall guy so I can feel dainty but short guys have better leverage...lol What do you mean by leverage lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 11:21 AM
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Appreciate this comment, props.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 11:21 AM
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I have litterally never seen or heard anyone being belittled for being short. I hear men call women fat when they don't get what they want though. Humans tend to pay attention to and remember things that were cognisant about I guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 11:17 AM
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I personally am going by direct experience. then you go on to extrapolate your anecdotal experience to "a common behaviour". Shaking my head.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 11:12 AM
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Ooh I love it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 11:06 AM
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and he doesn’t have an annoying complex about it unlike tall guys do. They really think they are Gods sometimes, despite it being the only thing they’ve got going for them, it’s pathetic. Tall Man Syndrome is more common than Short Man Syndrome, Change My Mind. Some science to that too because in human studies, shorter men always tend to be less aggressive than taller men on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 10:59 AM
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Once a dude is close to my height I am not as attracted I won't lie. Because they tend to be lean. Shorter guys "tended to be leaner" (and less muscular)?... No? Sounds like projection of an insecurity on to the other party (every time).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 10:54 AM
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this has been very enjoyable to read but i'd like to delve in further - what is it specifically that you prefer about short men over tall men? Is it aesthetics? You being significantly taller? I'd love to hear more, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 10:35 AM
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A “Midget” term changes nothing from what I said. 4’10” and below is a dwarf though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 06:53 PM
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Would you be so adamant about that if the mother was 4’11” and father 5’2”? Wouldn’t that be like a 5’2” mother and 5’5” father? The irony here is that you broached the theoretical limit for a man’s height I.e. too tall, and instead of saying 6’11” would be “physically deformed” (gigantism is the disease state, no argument there) you instead said “never experienced it” lol Not surprised at such an unbalanced and crude assessment overall though, given heels seem to be a more important determinant…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 08:50 AM
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Well my version of short man would be about 5'1, so yes, I'll stay single rather than date a man who is physically deformed. 5'1" men are "physically deformed"? Jesus christ woman, appalling,
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 02:32 AM
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Extra torso, limb, appendage length/size are nice. taller =/= bigger penis on average, this is a huge myth and a weak correlation, so weak that a study showed nose size was a better correlation for dick size lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 02:15 AM
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Understood, so far away aesthetics is the only factor and so tall takes it, but then when close the functional is then introduced for the first time and that tips the scale. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 08:56 PM
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Are you sticking to aesthetics here and not including function/ intimidation/ how you look next to him? I mean strictly from an aesthetics POV, I.e. Shape, beauty etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 05:55 PM
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idk im 5'0, there is a point where logistics interfere far more than aesthetics. So, do you prefer the aesthetics of tall men over short men? Thanks for your comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 09:39 AM
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Agreed with all above :)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 10:07 PM
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but for the growth hormones stimulation as well. This is false broscience. Testosterone and growth hormone increases from exercise are insignificant and transient and make zero difference to anything, height included. Similar myth to how lifting weights somehow stunts your growth which of course is also false.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 09:28 PM
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We couldn't vote until a century ago. Men who weren't elites/ rich couldn't vote until 150-160 years ago. Don't point out "recent rights" when those same rights are almost all on a similar time frame to the difference in time gap above.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 07:15 PM
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On average taller men do not have bigger dicks, the correlation is very minor. Funnily enough, a study has found nose size to be a bigger correlation than height 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 09:24 AM
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True, especially men surprisingly. Less men need to skip leg day and more need to learn that women check out behinds a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 03:54 AM
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I’d describe my physique the exact same way, leg day is my favourite day, and I have a wide pelvis for a man as it is… get compliments about my behind a lot though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 03:49 AM
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You're a 5 ft tall woman and weigh 145 pounds with abs? Insanely good physique, well done.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 03:17 AM
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Would you agree that the average young woman does this more commonly now? Frequently it's "Has to be" followed by tall, dark, handsome, great job or whatever number of variables. Obviously I don't need to get into OLD for the disparity there.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 03:02 AM
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This is the classic debate - you shaming us over something we can’t control versus us using blatant language telling you to lose weight. Penis size shaming is also what is thrown around on this sub to emasculate a man who’s opinion you find offensive. No matter how much a man could work out himself, having a woman making fun of his penis size is not the same as a woman who is actively choosing to be fat, being called out for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 02:58 AM
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Nope, myth. All additional testosterone (steroids) will do is potentially make extremely angry people even more angry at times they would be angry anyway (classic abuser story).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 02:50 AM
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Thousands of times more than men are getting their legs lengthened. Due to leg lengthening being thousands of times more expensive and risky, that's why.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 05:25 AM
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Your education/ net worth has ZERO to do with what is "average" as everyone has tried explaining to you in this thread. For someone so "accomplished" you really do struggle with common sense, or perhaps its just emotionality taking complete control over you and struggling to detach yourself from the reality external to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 06:36 PM
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in our generation you can literally spend two weeks learning to code online and make six figures next month. its really not that hard LMAO, the blind ignorance on your view points is astounding.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 09:59 AM
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6 figures in US Dollars is not the average salary for any country in the world. 6 ft is not the average height for any race. 6 inches downstairs isn't the average for any race either. Yikes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 09:58 AM
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This is fantastic, but you absolutely are in the minority of women, which is flabbergasting and sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 07:24 PM
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That's the bad odd No, your odds are whether you like engineering (just like STEM) not whether you can succeed in it. Hence the very core of the gender pay argument in these fields. Your odds of success are actually HIGHER because of the "positive discrimination" in these fields, wokeness and sociocultural shift. You are UNIQUE in a field of men, and think that's an issue? It's literally the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 04:17 PM
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Despite bad odds? 😂 Women literally out earn men statistically before the age of 30. Pure raw ignorance at its finest. You’re also an engineer, what on earth did you bloody expect!?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 02:25 PM
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Google is your friend on this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 12:42 PM
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Yeah, zero points other than the literal definition. I asked for why, not what. I said why do you need it in 2021, not in the 20th century when feminism began. Please understand these subjects on a deeper level before drawing and spreading conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 10:05 AM
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A woman is not playing him in the next one, she is a different agent alongside him, that is all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 01:03 PM
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Funnily enough, due to my leg and ass size, my slim fit jeans look more like the skinny jeans images than the slim fit one... all whilst still being too long for me (plight of the short, very muscular man). Skinny jeans reduces the baggage and bunching up of material.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 11:50 AM
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( skinny looks gay, slim fits more, is more comfortable, and looks more masculine ) Are skinny jeans really "skinny" if your legs are so muscular that they just look, big? I'm not sure about that, hence why they don't look "gay" lol. I've never heard that idea in the UK btw. It's like the difference between a big guy filling out a top his size or larger because he's muscular, and a small guy filling out a top that is obviously 2 sizes down. One is just presenting the muscle you have which would …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 11:45 AM
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I know you wont, but you might want to look at the why of affirmative action rather than a specific result. I'll bite - why is affirmative action required for young women in academia and the workplace in 2021? P.S. please don't claim there is a mythical gender pay gap, or that women are underrepresented in STEM as though they literally choose to not go into STEM on average. Also, click. I hear about this in friend's workplaces too --> https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/q096t3/wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 10:14 AM
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Furthermore if a man doesn't want to father a child, he can get a vasectomy. They're actually a lot easier to obtain than an abortion and no governments are offering bounties to arrest men for having one. You genuinely believe a vasectomy is easier and less risky than the morning after pill? The ignorance.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 10:11 AM
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Just like men don't for women they don't find attractive. The difference is: 1) men aren't delusional about their own SMV 2) Women find the overwhelming majority of men unattractive and thus treat them as such (NPC's, often with disgust during approaches etc.). Men find the overwhelming majority of women attractive and most girls are simply one long diet away and makeup from getting themselves into the attractive category if they aren't already.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 10:05 AM
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So if a man is surrounded by 7s and 8s, he will be so enamored, that all the 5s (which are the majority) will not even be on his radar. Well again, no, because men are realistic about their own SMV, and so would still view the 5's as tangible opportunities to secure a high quality relationship (or one night stand if that are his goals). To women meanwhile, I have witnessed the most extreme level of tunnel vision and complete disregard of men around after a single 9 or 10/10 "Chad" walks in. This…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 09:59 AM
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Don't ever wear tight fitting pants, though, as that's always perceived as gay. Wrong. Slim fit and (if you don't have thin legs) skinny jeans are better than baggy or bunched up jeans for a few reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 09:47 AM
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Not at all, it's purely that most men come to this conclusion once they've experienced and got bored of one night stands and similar casual stuff. They've got the initial validation of believing "I can pull" and learned that sex is just sex, not a number or similar. I'd imagine this is the case for women too, the only difference being, men won't be psychologically affected by their antics and won't believe their SMV is any higher than it actually is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 09:40 AM
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Perfect family and Scenario 2, and I believe it's the same for the majority of men once they've had an appreciable amount of sex in their life and it's lost it's alure e.g. n count of 5 or 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 12:27 AM
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No, absolutely false. Well trained short man > untrained tall man every. single. damn. time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 12:10 AM
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This, close thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 12:03 AM
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Literally this, there are so many misconceptions in the area of fat loss and nutrition that it really blows my mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 11:13 PM
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True, but let’s not suggest prosecution is the prime determinant of what’s more painful. Suicide isn’t prosecutable after all, can’t prosecute all the people that may/ may not have contributed to it occurring.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 06:43 PM
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Aaaand another rebuttal that is just finger pointing, sputtering and pathetic misandry. See yourself out at this point, not worth reading the words you type nevermind responding or debating.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 05:54 PM
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aaand that is your rebuttal to my correction of you? Yep, as I suspected, knowledge on this topic very shallow indeed. Read enough sensationalist, feminist articles with the goal of raising up women... without much science to back it up. In addition, I too could bring up evolutionary reasons on why a man would have a naturally larger appetite to women irrespective of their higher BMR's, but I don't need to, as the science speaks for itself. No anthropological assumptions necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 05:48 PM
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It's funny that when men with actual knowledge provide science-based rebuttals to "it's easier for men to lose weight than women" and "women have the same or higher appetites than men at lower bodyweights", that this person vanishes and cannot respond. Meanwhile the only reasoning she ever uses to support these claims is "muh evolutionary biology and pregnancy" and "eat/ not eat healthy fats lul". Read my replies to her in this thread, you may find them interesting as a fellow fitness fanatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 05:41 PM
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It’s literally a meme among married women that husbands can just quit soda for two weeks and lose ten pounds, meanwhile wives have soda once a year as a special treat and eat one small meal a day and it’s still harder. A meme that points out that men have higher BMR's than women? The meme is really about the ones creating it and believing it's somehow a strike against men, when it's actually the reverse. Men and women's appetites adjust broadly based on their BMR, this is why a 6 year old does n…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 05:35 PM
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And they also lack testosterone at least to a large degree, which makes exercise easier. Women have increased work capacity than men, and can maintain increased work volume related to their absolute work done. This is well studied, and is also related to women having lower absolute strength, so the nervous system (yes, that which produces and feels effort) is stressed less. Testosterone makes you bigger and stronger at baseline, but it actually makes exercise HARDER. Women can also make progress…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 05:18 PM
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An individual's overall appetite broadly adjusts relative to their BMR, hence why 6 year olds don't and can't eat as much as when they are are 16. This "males have higher metabolisms so easier to lose weight than women" trope is so misrepresented and overblown, it's a huge fitness cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 05:09 PM
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To add on to both comments - clean bulk (small surplus), and diet periodically to remove the fat gain that has to and will come alongside the muscle gain. This is the most time efficient way of building muscle/ strength. Never dirty bulk or go over a 500 daily calorie surplus, waste of time unless on gear.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 05:07 PM
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Welcome to the function of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 10:55 AM
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Both of it, pregnancy or abortion affect only the woman and her body. And I'll stop reading here, solipsism in one sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 10:44 AM
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It's rather they are a lot more judgy, feels-based and picky. Feels before reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 10:39 AM
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We don't imprison men for not paying child support for children they didn't want and never consented to have? Actually yes, men are imprisoned commonly for failing to meet child support payments.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 10:37 AM
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Amazing to see a woman with this opinion, never seen it before.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 10:28 AM
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Every time I read a post of his, I catch myself assuming it's a woman who is assuming the experiences of men, before I see the username.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 10:26 AM
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Yeah, I heard from a friend who is an absolute online dating warrior and very successful at it, and manoeuvres around and games the algorithms and all sorts, that topless photos that aren't natural looking shouldn't be included as they can signal you're a fuckboi or w.e. e.g. mirror photo. He also said, even with a natural looking beach pic, that it shouldn't be pic #1.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 10:24 AM
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I'll explain: - We (most men) care more about living in a way (eating junk, not exercising, poor lifestyle etc.) than we care about living in a way to improve our chances at attracting women (exercising, being lean, etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 10:22 AM
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Aren't you justifying here how difficult it is for the average woman to be viscerally attracted to the average or below man?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 10:12 AM
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Would I fuck me?If the answer is no, why would women want to fuck the guy. Asking a straight guy if they'd fuck themselves? Incredible logic, deserves an award /s
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 10:09 AM
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Lots and lots of ugly men get laid, it's that because the women they fuck aren't attractive, ugly men don't consider that to be sex. More like masturbation with extra steps. You, me and everyone else here knows men are more likely to overinflate their numbers than to underreport them (opposite for women). Men literally brag about "what they did last night" to friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 10:03 AM
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We obviously care more about getting a heart attack before the age of 40 than we are in getting pussy. While I disagree with the overwhelming majority of what you say in this subreddit, I will say this is one fantastically true and memorable line. A motto even, will try to remember it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 09:39 AM
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look odd to pretty much everyone I'll repeat, this is a you problem, not an "everyone" problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 09:26 AM
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So surprising. I guess it's a smaller pool of women who will see how lean your physique is if its only those who you sleep with, unless you go out with your top off etc. Perhaps if we were living day to day with no top on, you'd get some serious stares from women fairly frequently.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 09:25 AM
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very true, something is absolutely accounting for this big chasm
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 02:09 AM
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I’ve had multiple comments in the sack from women for having a very muscular physique, but I’ve never been below 15% body fat. I’m curious to see if those change at all in bed if I were to get lean. However, I know my facial aesthetics would improve massively if I got lean. I carry a lot of fat around my cheeks, and have decent bone structure below it all I believe. This is the main goal of getting lean these days, rather than physique.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 10:07 AM
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A whole host of assumptions r.e. steroids here. Most people don’t get anything like “roid rage” or negative personality effects. In fact, an introverted or unconfident individual may see improvements in sociability and assertiveness for a net gain, due to the resilience and soft confidence increase from the extra testosterone. I’d be more concerned with physical health, acne and water retention than the above.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 10:04 AM
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Geeky faces can’t have muscular bodies?This makes literally no sense. Human beings aren’t characters or archetypes. If you find people less attractive or “weird” because you can’t guess their personality, lifestyle and fit them squarely into a box based purely on appearance… then you’ve got the problem, not them. Incredibly judgmental and prejudicial.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 09:54 AM
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No, notable weight gain has significant effects to the face in a bad way. Face > height, and height is sure as shit not going to compensate for having a less attractive face; you will be less attractive in most cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 09:51 AM
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We’re the face changes very overt and clear? Received any compliments from either sex about how your face has improved? If face change isn’t noticeable, I can get it as most girls really don’t care that much about abs and increased vascularity. You’ll probably look smaller/ less muscular in clothes too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 09:46 AM
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This is so painfully obvious it hurts to type. Read: A man with not many options who is asked out, still doesn’t have or get many options. This rare girl interested in him won’t suddenly spawn 5 girls around him and give him “options”. A man who is more likely to be asked out though, is probably asked out/ shown notable interest frequently, given its so damn rare to get any of this as a man… thus this man likely has options anyway. Asking a guy out doesn’t change whether he has options or not. /…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 04:08 PM
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Very good points, truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 03:30 PM
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You can't negotiate attraction i.e. raw pure lust.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 01:25 PM
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Climate change? Well, all the well developed countries I can think of are reproducing below even replacement levels. That's a problem in of itself, while also reducing population levels already with respect to climate change.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 01:24 PM
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This is so untrue, hence the guy’s comment before saying men compromise on looks far more than women on average I.e. lower physical standards. This is seen in the realm on not only face but most obviously height and weight too. I assure you, the fine details you described about petite and feminine structure is way more microscoped than a mans sex drive will ever be. Will you be a 10/10 model in a bikini? No, but you sure as shit will be passing the looks threshold for dramatic sexual attraction …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 10:14 AM
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Don’t comment on things with such conviction and assuredness without research and confirmation, this isn’t accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 10:07 AM
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This has been a good conversation to read, thanks both. I have a friend who is tall but certainly small downstairs and has insecurities with it, while I am the complete reverse at 5’5” and 6.5”, but now a lot less insecure about height… Who would you rather be? I think I’d prefer to be tall/ below average in penis size given penis size is hidden, and you’ve already somewhat “got the girl” as discussed.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 09:56 AM
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I’m 6.5” and this has been my experience also. One ex said I was the “perfect size”, and complained about an ex who was huge and it being very painful.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 09:51 AM
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I've seen the reverse soo much more, unequivocally so. An example of the latter is women dumping boyfriends because "he's short" and their friends/ family mention it all the time yet they find them viscerally attractive and intrinsically don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 09:36 AM
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Facts, nothing but facts you’ve shared in this thread. Good read, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 08:52 PM
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Overwhelming majority of men watch porn daily, and you’re claiming all of these men can’t get hard? Christ, at least attempt to make a slanderous, misogynistic lie somewhat believable 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 12:58 PM
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Haha yes -> your misogyny is showing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 12:20 PM
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Poor analogy, skin colour doesn't have as much of an impact on personality, interests, behaviour, tendencies, social groups and lifestyle anywhere near as much as gender does. Should men start calling women closet misogynists because on average they don't like sports and other male-centric hobbies? A simple example, but open your mind please. I'm not going to bother repeating the obscene amount of reasoned rebuttals you've received yet chosen to not think past your black and white thinking. X do…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 02:28 AM
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Let's put it this way - my hunch would be that it would become even more apparent upon meeting you in person that you have strong anti-male, pro-feminist beliefs that go beyond this type of black and white, irrational thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 01:57 AM
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since the deal breaker is not in any way hindering me in my romantic life. It's just easier and more effective to just cut the whole group. Just so fickle, that's all I have to say. Why not go and add 50 more things to the list if they won't "hinder you". Grim.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 01:47 AM
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Unless, employers start giving the same opportunity and pay to their female workplace, Myth, debunked countless times. Not surprised you'd spout this when suggesting one can't make a deal a 50/50 balance while accounting for unique traits genders have biologically without treating men who work as many hours as you as financial slaves (paying for dates as a rule, etc.) Now let me ask, given women under 30 now make up 60%+ of university students AND make more money than under 30's men... are you p…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 01:40 AM
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"Wants 50/50" "Misogynist" Ahh, so you deserve more than 50/50 yet happily throw the word "misogynist" around? The irony is deafening.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 01:32 AM
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Nothing but truth and logical reasoning, it's rather the other parties that need to do more explaining and rationalisation, don't worry.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 01:21 AM
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With these sweeping beliefs of men, and after discussing this topic with you already, I'm of the opinion that it's you who comes across as more misandrist than a man without female friends would come across a misogynist.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 01:19 AM
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Good post 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 07:29 PM
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Estradiol is made from testosterone. Prolactin does not do anything to testosterone, it does impact libido itself though. If Estradiol is low (despite high T, a males libido will be practically zero, and have a hard time orgasming likely. Understand simple basics of hormones before making claims on how they definitely impact something like libido please. To clarify, mairomasters posts are on the money.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 07:25 PM
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Are there more male feminists or women MRA’s? Also, why is it in this balance? Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 07:15 PM
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Um many men actually do believe that casual sex is the ultimate mating strategy for men this is why there are several threads right now on this sub of men saying they are insulted to be seen as “husband material” and how they want women to sleep with them on the first date. These same men also think not having sex right away means they are less manly or sub par it’s a ridiculous measure to hold for oneself. A gross misrepresentation of the replies in that thread. Shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 10:36 AM
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And husband material is "you are attractive + you have a great personality + out lifestyles and goals are compatible" Yet much of the time the person on the receiving end of the "husband material" "praise" is not able to have casual sex with the girl OR get into a relationship with her despite he himself wanting it... which says it all really. Actions speak louder than words in these cases, and its no different a compliment than "I couldn't date you, you're like a brother to me".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 11:19 AM
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well said.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 11:12 AM
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Emphasis on finding joy in the short term, Jesus, don’t get what’s so confusing about what’s been said by two people now at great depth.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 05:58 PM
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Again, you’re framing this as a proactive decision based on hate. It’s more a reactive one based on experience and finding friendships naturally don’t occur due to the differences/ lack of things in common.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 12:33 PM
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There absolutely isn't if an individual is an introvert who only finds enjoyment with hanging out with select few males anyway. It's simply throwing a tantrum if someone doesn't enjoy your company enough to want to go out of their way to hang out with you in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 10:32 AM
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Actual yikes. Finds more in common with men and enjoys the company more as a result? "Misogyny reee!" Just imagine if men called women misandrists because of this?! Never could even imagine reading or hearing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 10:05 AM
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They signal that this unit is a male and that one is a female. Otherwise we would waste a lot of time and effort rubbing two null points together. There is a lot more to sexual dimorphism than simply looking different. We also wouldn't find different heights, muscle size and features much different from one another if it was simply exclusively about identifying gender - we can tell that very quickly with all body hair removed and height and muscle size standardised. One fact is again, it comes b…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 09:49 AM
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I need to sleep soon but, I'm not disagreeing with anything you said above, what I'm highlighting is the why more different = better. Reasons. It's not more different for different's sake, it's because it's better at performing x role. What does x role do? Well you've listed it for animals above. Height and muscles aren't attractive simply because they are different alone, its because height and larger muscles have a function and they signal that they are better at x function.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 01:28 AM
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Very interesting, and actually fascinating to me regardless of me likely never wanting to lower my own libido. I can't imagine anything more "freeing" then complete removal of libido while keeping health, testosterone's functions etc. in check. Certainly check out Finasteride if this is something you'd seriously like to pursue, it could make a lot of sense for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 01:14 AM
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A great topic of discussion for sure, but it doesn't take long to ponder why we are sexually dimorphic and why said dimorphic traits are specifically attractive. It's not because "more different = better" its "better at this difference (read: functions e.g. protection/ hunting etc.) = better".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 01:12 AM
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Cool. I was asking because height/ muscles are probably innately attractive due to it (subconsciously) signalling health & ability to protect.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 09:22 PM
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Do you find tall height and larger muscles attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 09:18 PM
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Closest drug I know of that can do this is high dose finasteride. Deleted Libido if high enough dose, while standard testosterone, free testosterone and oestrogen levels stay normal. This also would likely make erections and orgasms more difficult, but I guess someone who wants no libido is fine with these things? Benefits are of course zero DHT - less acne, reduced prostate enlargement & drastically reduced hair loss (which it was invented for)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 04:32 PM
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A cope? Statistics isn’t “coping” lmao, need not bother engaging with you anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 04:10 PM
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Okay, have you ever had a relationship with different men varying between below, average, and above average dick size? I'd like to know why you have such an extreme (yes extreme, due to rarity as discussed) hardline, it's got me very curious. You don't have any height requirements it seems, which usually goes hand in hand with people who have rare/ demanding requirements.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 09:25 AM
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Women = plural. Me, woman & I = singular. You typed “women”, I don’t know what else to tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 10:05 PM
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You weren’t talking about you as an individual, you were talking about men and women in general. The “continue on your legacy” part needs to be removed from the women’s side OR added to the men’s side too, in your earlier weighting of benefits for either gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 09:58 PM
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Morbidly obese women aren’t average, 5.1” penises are, that’s why one is to be criticised and not the other lol. Very obvious. I pray you have not a single variable about you that’s average or below.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 09:47 PM
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This all is very fair. I just think the question becomes why a FWB relationship in your instance, isn’t all that different to a legitimate relationship? For most people, I think this would be asked, but understand it doesn’t apply to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 12:21 PM
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The point is, a woman needs sperm to reproduce as much as a man needs eggs. So yes, women need men (or some artificial alternative) to carry on their legacy too…. So remove that supposed bargaining power, then reevaluate how fair your deal is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 12:19 PM
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Enthusiastic relationship with men less than 5 inches? Are you talking penis length? Hell no. Average penis length is 5.1". You're saying it's a "hell no" to any man who's even an inch below average?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 11:25 AM
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and hate to say it but even money, has more influence. Why do you think money has more influence than looks in dating? Do you mean only in extreme situations like $70,000 vs. $200,000 salary?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 10:32 AM
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women give babies and continue on your legacy. Would a woman give babies and continue their own legacy on their own otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 10:18 AM
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Ah sorry. Well FWB's like ONS but I guess less so, are known for weighing physical attributes more highly than personality, status etc. etc. Taller height is considered more attractive by the vast majority of women so... higher likelihood one would like tall height in an FWB.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 10:13 AM
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Thanks. It's still just so confusing however given all the debates from all sides on this topic (from women). However, I know it can't be near the top of the list unless it's at the extremes (so big it's painful, or micro penis).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 10:02 PM
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Cool, thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 10:01 PM
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I'm 5'7" and he's 5'11". Actually a little taller than I prefer, men my height or slightly shorter are more attractive in that area. But it is what it is, nobody can be your perfect partner. Interesting in an FWB relationship in particular, why would you prefer it if he were shorter?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 07:47 PM
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I agree so much with this. "They accentuate the curves" lol no, gtfo.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 07:31 PM
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Dominance requires literal action, the opposite of inhibition and passiveness. Nothing is more extroverted than acting in a way that not only speaks/ does your minds bidding but also in a way that directly impacts how others behave. Doing these things frequently enough, and without fail, is what gives you the presence/ trait of “dominant” in other people’s minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 06:05 PM
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Introverted but dominant, interesting combination. Best of both extroversion and introversion with no drawbacks?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 05:59 PM
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What do you mean? Stop saying it matters (because it doesn’t) or stop saying it doesn’t matter (because it does)?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 05:54 PM
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12 nmol/L is near where I chimed in at on 2 tests. If* you feel like you get true low T symptoms, then I recommend getting two separate blood tests to test again via a private TRT clinic, they have better recognition at how damaging low T can be. NHS and public medicine is poor at treating low T, who’s reference ranges are arbitrary as hell and don’t take into account age groups (lol, I had the T of an 80 year old man at 25 yet that would be “normal” to the NHS, outrageous).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 05:49 PM
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250mg is definitely a light cycle and not TRT. For reference, 100mg + 600iu hCG per week puts me just above the natural reference range in Total T, and way higher than the reference range in free T. The physical changes have been very noticeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 09:33 AM
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I went from Low T on to TRT at the top of the reference range, and I agree with all that you said here, it is dramatic. However, it's also not showered me in success with women, but I absolutely feel like it's ticked a box on a long list of social traits that goes toward social success both with men and women. I am far more assertive above all else, it's extremely obvious. Sometimes I question whether I come across too deadpan and straightforward now lol, but that'll be excellent in the workplac…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 09:31 AM
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Well said.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 12:22 AM
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I don't buy that all men are sex-crazed animals. If you don't buy it then why are you projecting and acting like that is true? High sex drive =/= animals who have no control or think ill of women. Christ.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 05:43 PM
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How can you look for different if you are unsuccessful with a net cast as wide as 4,000? It is literally impossible to get more restrictive in this hypothetical, as it makes your chances of finding someone even slimmer.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 11:43 AM
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Why the hell have you brought the word “hate” into this lol? All this person has done is described the male sex drive, and said nothing about force, coercion, women “being x y z” or anything related, you’re putting words in his mouth. This is such a huge leap of language so that you can justify bringing your misandry into it, shocking.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 11:36 AM
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And I certainly don't need you telling the average man what his dating experiences are. Your individual preferences aren't representation of the reality around us.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 11:02 PM
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Women find most men unnattractive, and many even repulsive. Men find most women attractive, and mostly only the grotesquely overweight or similar, repulsive. This isn't an apples to apples comparison, thus no hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 10:31 PM
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I'm sorry to hear that. I would try to offer advice but I doubt it would be of help given you're much more informed on gender dysphoria than I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 10:29 PM
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Thanks for commenting. I'm sorry you've experienced such difficulties growing up. I'm happy that you've made great progress though mentally, and am grateful for your insight.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 10:25 PM
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you can want to be more masculine without wanting to transition. Absolutely, but even the most tiny amount of exogenous testosterone introduced into a female's body has immense virilizing effects, such as permanent voice deepening, hirsutism and all sorts. Testosterone is literally an all-in, it's a potent and systemic effectant. The exception to this are female bodybuilders who are absolutely clinical in dosage management, and rarely take Testosterone itself but a much milder steroid such as An…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 10:18 PM
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So to transition? Do you identify as male or non-binary now? I’ve never heard of someone considering starting T (as a woman) unless to transition fully, this is quite interesting. Further, if I’m not being too bothersome or intruding, why have you never felt comfortable as a cis female?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 09:12 PM
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Why were you considering T in the first place may I ask?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 07:44 PM
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Like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 11:21 AM
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Very well said. Overt, honest and secure vs. covert, deceitful and insecure. I certainly know which party is acting more rational and moral.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 01:06 AM
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I am forever grateful to the girl that taught me that lesson years ago. You're in the extreme minority, nearly every single man knows from day 1 that real sex is superior to porn on a screen.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 12:41 PM
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It takes me up to an hour to achive an orgasms with hands I'm shocked and have never heard of this before in my relationships, is this common amongst women? Does using porn help?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 12:35 PM
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It's not surprising how it's only women disagreeing with you on this. Solipsism at it again?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 12:17 PM
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Absolutely. Let her delusions and the artificial world she creates for herself worsen her opportunities and thus potentially quality of life on top of that. She clearly doesn't want to hear the truth, hence the rhetorical questions this thread is based upon, rather than framing it to one that actually provides information.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 12:15 PM
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Depends on how it plays out in their actions ig. Yes, the literal determinant used to gauge whether any action, behaviour or habit needs to be put under a microscope and changed. The rest is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 11:48 AM
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"By her early 20's, a woman has most likely already had a few bad experiences with men and if not, has most likely seen her friends being treated like shit/cheated on/abandoned/led on etc.For most girls the dream of the fairytale wedding to a 'man who will love her forever' is fading away and a more realistic worldview takes hold: A man is not a plan and acting like it is just silly". Have you heard of the Red Pill and Blue Pill, do you know the name of this subreddit? Are you somehow not aware …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 11:46 AM
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take it so personally when someone criticizes it. Like dude, you are getting all worked up about porn and you think you dont have an issue with it? If you want to see someone getting "worked up about it" check out OP's thread and her posts throughout. Not only that, she wouldn't even consider dating a porn user (overwhelming majority of men) EVEN when the overwhelming majority experience no issues as a result of the porn use, and DO prefer the real thing with their partners if they have one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 11:28 AM
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The sane, non-controlling and non-man hating answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 11:26 AM
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Although if my partner was uncomfortable with me reading a certain kind of book with this justification I'd stop for his benefit. As would any non-addicted normal guy with porn use. And no, maybe 1% of porn users are chronically addicted, and most stop using porn once in a relationship with regular sex; the real thing is better.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 11:18 AM
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Yes, and again, no one but porn addicts (i.e. the 1%, not the common man) prefer porn to the real thing. If you believe it's the reverse, then of course you would be as deluded as you are with regards to porn use.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 11:02 AM
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Yes, yes he did.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 10:58 AM
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Then why did you say: "Nudes are porn" in this thread first? Seems like you're trying to be obtuse on purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 10:53 AM
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This ^
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 08:02 AM
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Perhaps you may require higher dosage, I.e. dutasteride or higher fin dose? Also, something to consider, testosterone itself (not just DHT) accelerates hair loss, just to a smaller degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 03:57 PM
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Finally, I’d like to promote the new “hair systems” that are gaining appeal, for those who balding is aggressive and causing issues. They look amazing and are worth looking into.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 11:04 AM
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Finasteride isn’t slowing it down after 3 months of use?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 11:03 AM
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So true and often times missed completely in these discussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 06:16 PM
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Very good point r.e. homosexuality comparisons, difficult to argue against really.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 05:24 PM
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Yes, and I have, 3 times, and never had issues come about from it. HOWEVER, it's mostly a part time job outside of summer, and it's at a restaurant/ hotel where it's mostly young students there. It proved to be a far easier place to find and flirt with people than OLD or clubs.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 12:38 AM
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Too much means they’re spending too much time at the gym. This mainstream misbelief (never held by people who actually weight train regularly) that very muscular people must spend 2-3 hours in the gym everyday needs to end. You can get huge (yes huge) on literally 3 hours a week, and that's not an exaggeration. Most legit bodybuilders train 60 mins 4-5x per week. The biggest issue you'll come to find being with a bodybuilder is during dieting phases, outside of that, most will eat normal but wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 12:27 AM
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Does tall height come into this ectomorph category for you both? Could you find the same small/ narrow frame attractive on a below average height guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 12:09 AM
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Marriage grants over 1,000 protections that dating/ living together do not, at least in the US. And all of these are so insignificant that they are rarely ever cited or talked about, and certainly not remembered. Cultural, sociological, familial and professional (i.e. cultural) benefits - All are just "beliefs" rather than facts. These could be due to an old fashioned society that is yet to wake up, many would probably argue.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 11:04 AM
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Why can’t one have exactly what you have, without marriage being involved?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 12:01 AM
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Agreed, marriage just seems awful to modern men who learn of this stuff and all the other negatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 08:30 PM
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Well said.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 11:49 AM
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Women who are not self aware lie to themselves about how much they are attracted to a man. In this sense, do you think women are marrying men that are lower SMV than they find viscerally attractive? I.e. settling with betas?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 11:40 AM
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Very well said, and certainly reminds me of JBP as you described, a great person.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 11:37 AM
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There is also the exercise you do living your life day to day. Regardless, I'm afraid I don't have time to put your life under a microscope to do the math. The endo is essentially guessing you have x metabolism if the numbers on the thyroid or similar don't show it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 12:11 AM
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Taller since when? Pre 1900’s?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 07:46 PM
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36 assumptions in this one, and I have zero idea why you’ve chosen to be so hostile from the get go. The user said short in her list. I don’t care about the other factors, I care about that persons opinion or reason why she believes short doesn’t belong in top 20%. Asking this does not make a person insecure, no more than if I focused on wealth alone. Why I have to explain this blows my mind. Second, would a woman be “insecure” if she asked another why she believes short men can’t be in the top …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 07:10 PM
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Where is the insecurity in my comment LOL? I could be a 6’5” Adonis, would that make me insecure then for asking someone’s opinion? Christ. Finally, not even going to bother explaining why a 1% celeb is a useless comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 06:04 PM
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I didn’t ask about employment, that’s a given
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 04:52 PM
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In that case, it sounds to me that your either eating a lot less than you think are , or burning loads of calories through day to day activities and work (in the same way anyone with that lifestyle would). Metabolic rate is closely linked to thyroid and body weight, that’s the bulk of it. Day to day exercise is not metabolism.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 02:37 PM
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In elite competition where everyone is maxed out both in genetics and training then yes of course, but that doesn’t mean height = strength. It’s a low correlation because relative to training, genetics and other variables it’s minor.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 02:32 PM
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I was born lucky, I have an extremely fast methabolic that, acording to my endocrinologist, a 1 in 1000 lucky shot. I'd love to hear more about this, please expand, details and hard numbers. I have zero clue how an endocrinologist would calculate this, outside of finding a hyperactive thyroid that needs to be treated?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 10:24 AM
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If you can afford a $10 gym membership, you more than likely can find a gym close enough to you, that you have enough free time to go to 2-3x per week, even if two of those days are on weekends. This excludes the extremes like single parents who work 60+ hours a week etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 10:23 AM
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You know you're talking to a woman though. I see you around here a lot, what's your opinion on tall, handsome rich being a requirement for top 20%?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 09:46 AM
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Damn, sounds worse than Elysium. Nice write up.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 03:19 AM
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Weren't you saying that he's never worked, is short, Ouch. Can't be top 20% if short then?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 12:26 AM
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What? It's no more common to be tall and good-looking. Hell it's a lot less because the average height of most men isn't considered tall. Tall men are rarer so it's less likely they're going to be tall and good-looking. To clarify, 5'7" and 6'0" are exactly 1 standard deviation from average height in the UK for adult men. I.e. being 5'7" is as common as being 6 ft tall.
/r/seduction30/08/21 01:15 PM
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Awesome write up, thanks for the insight, makes a lot of sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 12:37 PM
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It’s just a popular post-breakup phase For women, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 12:25 PM
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No, no it actually doesn’t correlate well at all with strength 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 09:06 PM
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strong men would have made the difference between a village thriving and a village starving to death Height =/= strength, especially in this context.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 02:35 PM
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Agreed with each of your points, very well said.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 02:32 PM
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Men just don’t really approach women talker then them, because men believe it’s a losing effort trying to do so. This explains the overwhelming majority of cases. Meanwhile, the majority of cases for women is they literally admit not finding men shorter than them attractive or acceptable for a relationship. This isn't even a debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 02:30 PM
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Every developed country reproductive rates are below replacement levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 10:59 AM
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Nope, 1-10 system is based on a universal ranking, and not within the immediate small social group in question. Everyone knows this, hence why it literally is so ubiquitous across most men regardless of location.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 02:52 AM
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My point still stands, it’s the length of time that counts. 1 year for a young person who is actively looking is not a casual 2-3 month period or hard luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 05:00 PM
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“Offensively normal” 😂👌
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 04:58 PM
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1 year ABSOLUTELY is “sexless”. The average male wants a girlfriend/ sex during that entire time so it’s not like they chose to not bother for 12 months.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 04:50 PM
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See my previous my message regarding Cathy Newman if you’d like a lesson on logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 05:57 PM
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Yeah, honestly, it's getting exhausting reading her points.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 11:51 AM
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Yeah, actually engaging with people's points in conversations so that you have a chance at gaining the modicum of respect and patience required to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 11:51 AM
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??? My original question still stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 11:49 AM
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Great discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 11:47 AM
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Ah yes, the classic "so what you're saying is" only reframed. Good ol' Cathy Newman.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 03:02 AM
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Like I said I won't even go on a date with a guy unless I wanna kiss him. How do you know whether you'd want to kiss him or not, before a date or a serious opportunity to get to know him properly?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 03:01 AM
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and he treated me like shit 🤷‍♀️ and what relevance does this have to my comment, or anything else from your comment? Is it a back handed comment with the goal of suggesting shorter men treat women worse lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 05:17 PM
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This is literally what I'm talking about when I say ignorance. You are categorising men as having sex with women without wanting relationships is treating women as "punching bags"?! What in the actual fuck LOL. There will be no reasoning or discussion with you if this is your starting and finishing point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 05:16 PM
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How about how short men are treated like shit on the bottom of society’s shoes on OLD, and that being a big problem, do you ever think about this or other gender-specific issues in dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 02:25 PM
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Lizzo isn’t only fat, she’s obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 02:21 PM
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Ah yes, because women having sex with males who don’t want relationships with them is somehow WORSE than systemic negative health effects that impacts almost every single major system in the body. Get out of your misandrist world your brain currently bathes in. Mind blowing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 02:17 PM
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Actual. Yikes. The ignorance is astounding.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 02:15 PM
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Everyone has a natural, genetic disposition that determines what shape their body will be even when they are in peak health This "natural" state or physique is mostly environmentally determined in the case of body composition (how much exercise to be performed on average, what exercise and how much food is available. This varies extremely in the pre agricultural world). Important distinction, Genetics however does determine clavicle width, pelvis width etc. etc
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 01:18 AM
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Ah, I see, so you’re just a misogynist He didn't say a single thing resembling misogyny, yikes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 07:37 AM
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The world is overpopulated as it is Every developed country is reproducing below replacement levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 07:37 AM
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Great conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 07:33 AM
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Reads like it wouldn't really then, gotcha. Your body your choice but not so much his child until it comes time to pay I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 06:39 AM
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Respectable list, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 06:36 AM
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But in regards to your real clothing examples.... a girl can lose complete attraction for someone for them one day wearing the wrong coat? Seems outrageous and trivial, like, why even bother entertaining the cultivation of attraction in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 11:42 PM
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Lowering my own preferences. I have very narrow ones and they disqualify almost all people After reading the rest of your bullet points, I'm intrigued, what are they?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 11:18 PM
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spending £10k to fix beard and dark circles soon How are you going to fix your beard? By doing what?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 11:11 PM
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The messiest (and dirtiest) rooms I've ever seen are ex's of mine, all young girls in the age range at the time of 20-24.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 11:08 PM
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and if I get pregnant, what happens afterwards will be my decision. Would your partner's opinion be considered at all in this important decision?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 11:01 PM
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In what way was this off topic please? Was looking forward to reading through when I had time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 01:10 PM
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tall women (5'10" and up) get rejected for their height as much as short men get rejected for their lack of height. yeah.... absolutely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 12:49 PM
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why the "short term" qualification?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 12:47 PM
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Bone, muscle mass, body fat distribution... people will get confused on which of these you are referring to.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 02:02 PM
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the accountants who's only job is to ensure every penny is accounted for, no matter the cost of the exercise. Don't do us accountants like that :(
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 12:15 PM
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Perhaps elaborate on what you mean by "Frame" for those unsure of what it means OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 12:03 PM
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form, figure, shape, density These are words I'd use to describe frame, not height? So wouldn't you prefer a shorter dude with a good frame for these characteristics?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 12:01 PM
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I have read the research, and it literally is the strongest evidence we have explaining hormone level changes over time in populations. I cannot believe you’re describing said research as “weak” while citing the studies and conclusions you have, the ignorance is astounding.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 01:52 PM
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This is how I know the environmental/T decline link is weak Weak?! It's the strongest scientific evidence we have on the subject - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1B44VmZFiI
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 09:44 AM
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At the moment i have like... An outline of abs, if i flex really hard i have abs, but i want to be leaner for sure. Honestly, many girls prefer a shadowy 6 pack to a totally ripped one, even if it's less eye opening and surprising. You may find being shredded is too unsustainable also, and screw having to adjust ones lifestyle to try and accommodate that. I'm not overweight no, I'm squarely in average territory, around 15-20% body fat I'd estimate. I'm also very muscular. I doubt I'd get penis g…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 10:10 AM
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Thanks for the breakdown. When I was a teen, I wanted to get shredded for a 6 pack. As an adult, I want to get very lean for the face gains primarily.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 09:32 AM
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By well proportioned, are you referring to physique (muscle/ fat) or limb/ torso length?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 07:50 AM
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20%+ of men being <5'6" is not a genetic "anomaly" lol. Your original comment is disgusting too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 08:08 AM
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pre-selection =/= slut-like behaviour in men Separate the two from the title, they are different things all together.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 07:42 AM
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... Yes... how does that change the fact that appetites adjust dependent on BMR?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 07:52 AM
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Appetites adapt alongside BMR changes though too, so 1200 kcals to you is a lot more satiating than it would be to a male who's much larger.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 11:19 PM
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Depending on her hormones and metabolism after children, that 50-100lbs heavier might be something that she really can't control 50-100 lbs heavier!? Do you know how much weight that is? That is absolutely not a metabolism or biology issue, as it simply would not fluctuate to that degree without serious disease. Sure women gain weight during pregnancy, but not anywhere near that much unless its purely lifestyle/ habit based.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 07:58 AM
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"a lack of time and resources to prioritise their health/looks due to splitting household bills with the "man" of the house" - Just an FYI -> It doesn't take time or resources to lose weight, in fact it takes less time and less food. - Losing weight is pretty much all there is for women if were talking body composition. No excuses on this front.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 07:51 AM
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I assumed it because I don’t know how any woman could write about the issue of sexual assault and only be concerned with how that issue impacts men. Precisely because nearly all women talk about in this area is its relevance to women lol. "How dare you show empathy to the other side once!"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 07:03 PM
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copy pastes above message again
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 02:38 PM
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Treat him more like a human who spent time on you, rather than discarding him as trash because an L word came out. Say “slow down” and carry on lol, not too difficult to comprehend, the ego to suggest any other action isn’t feasible is simply disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 10:45 AM
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but he said I love you within one week and we hadn’t even met up yet. So I let that go ruthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 07:43 AM
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The point is that men are seen as valuable for like... Being alive. Wrong way around... which is ironically what this post is getting at, that women can find success by being valued purely for sex and beauty.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 07:28 AM
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It's because there are men who are embarrassed they are attracted to fat women and take their anxiety out on the woman by mistreating her. What in sweet mary jesus mental gymnastics nonsense is this? It seems like projection you saying this (I'm assuming you're female). It's projection because you're projecting the female psyche when it comes to the importance of a mate being received well by people around you. Men couldn't give two fucks about what their friends think of their partners, meanwhi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 07:22 AM
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This ^ needed to be clarified.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 07:17 AM
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In an extremely small amount of people, yes it can have that temporary side effect. You can also micro dose it for the same effect if experiencing any side effects. It's what I do and everything is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 07:14 AM
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Anyway, trying to hold onto it as long as possible via minoxidil. Absolutely look into Finasteride. There is nothing that is as effective as it for slowing down hair loss.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 09:50 PM
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Yeah, it’s truly insane how much of an effect it has. Not only that, but the hair systems themselves look fantastic, they definitely look real, full and healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 07:41 PM
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Then I really don’t understand why on Earth you put so much weight on him paying first then. He might be perfect, but you may have just ensured that HE decide to not date you again after a scorn or similar reaction from you out of a 50/50 split on a first date. Very sad, extremely irrational.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 07:40 PM
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Yeah, the reason I ask is because I’ve seen loads of videos on it. I have very mild recession, but I decided immediately upon seeing it that I’d be perfectly fine wearing one when I go bald. In 10-20 years I’m sure they’ll only be more advanced, more common and more socially accepted. Right now the primary drawback that I see for people is honestly stigma, and that’s why I’m interested in women’s thoughts on it. It’s not just a wig.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 07:37 PM
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Are you paying for the date next month? No, then poor examples and analogies.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 07:29 PM
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Well remove that word from your vocabulary then, because it isn’t equality lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 07:28 PM
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but I am 20 and I need a guy with hair on my IG. .
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 06:35 PM
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Interesting, do you think most women would think as positively about hair systems? Is it the equivalent of a wife getting small breast augmentation, but better, hmm
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 06:24 PM
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Chivalry or equality, pick one.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 05:49 PM
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pneumatic boobs lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 08:48 AM
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I got the paragraph wrong, see my original message for the topic I was alluding to. All that you described is literally the same thing reworded, which is exactly my point, there are only so many side tangents of the same topic. The ones that you mentioned that aren’t however, literally involve the topic of women, which inevitably lead back to why in the first place. And then legitimately finally, don’t cherry pick a quote of someone’s paragraph, taking it completely out of the context it was use…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 12:17 AM
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Why on earth did you choose to put words in my mouth with that second paragraph? Finally, just to play devils advocate introduce and introduce a new line of thinking... what else is there to talk about on a specific MGTOW forum/subreddit? Reasons for going MGTOW in the first place and the premise of its existence + similar, offers a lot more subjects/ experiences to discuss and find common ground in than “what do you plan on doing with the extra time/ money?” has. This will inevitably lead to se…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 11:57 PM
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Segregation is telling? What about Feminist subreddits, ForeverAloneWomen, FDS and other similar segregated subreddits. Similar tells? If so, fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 11:45 PM
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His second paragraph discusses exactly this, that the misogynists potentially represent a loud minority rather than the majority. This would make sense when I come to think about it; most men who go “MGTOW” aren’t even aware it’s called that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 11:43 PM
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Massive generalisation founded on a whole heap of assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 10:00 AM
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Oh and now you're talking about combat and not strength? Why are you shifting the goal posts? Well, if you're going to do that > Floyd Mayweather vs. Logal Paul.... or trained short male vs. untrained tall male (either in relation to combat alone, or strength training alone).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 07:53 AM
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Your explanations make sense, because they are extreme examples. However, other peoples posts above appear to be describing much more normal/ natural points. Often times people just pass it off as something they can't even put their finger on... which goes to show how absurdly irrational emotions and feelings can be. "I just fell out of love with him".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 06:04 PM
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A skinny 6’3 dude still wins against a strong and fit 5’6 dude because the 6’3 dude has the potential to become much stronger in the future. You've just contradicted yourself in the same exact sentence. Future tense is not present tense. A strong 5'6" dude "wins" against a skinny 6'3" dude because he's strong at the present time lol. Exactly why muscle size is a far more major variable. Won't bother expanding, the rest you said is accurate r.e. correlation within strongman specific events.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 05:59 PM
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I could not think of a single one that ever did not not come at me with a rude entitled complex about it So you believe every man 5'7" and under has a "complex" about his height (i.e. what 20-30% of men)? Not possibly that your experience was unique, or that your own words may have incentivised such responses so consistently? "I got hit on by a lot of very short men I presume because I was so short" - 5'7" and under isn't "very short", that's just short. Very odd to call them "very short", says …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 05:54 PM
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Below 5’7 is too short for me, like a guy my height is not attractive to me 4-5" taller is not your height.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 09:01 AM
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taller =/= stronger larger muscle size = almost always stronger though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 08:58 AM
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why are you both just jumping to sex, it's not what he asked?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 08:56 AM
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How did marriages ever survive if a man couldn't say/ take one single misstep without the relationship being destroyed forever? Seems nonsensical.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 08:26 AM
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I've experienced all of these things before in relationships, and all within the same time frame. What stands out to me is that they all started coming to an end, at the very end or shortly after the honeymoon phase (typically 3-6 months), and very young women in particular (up to 21 y/o) won't know anything different than the butterflies and honeymoon feelings, so they likely just read that as "fallen out of love" and know they can find a brand new, exciting and mysterious partner in a week usi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 08:16 AM
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Absurdly reductionist rationalisation, I figured my previous messages would point that out to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 05:51 PM
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This thread/ introverted males in the presence of attractive women wouldn’t exist if that was true.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 12:46 PM
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So you are of the opinion that shy/ timid guys don’t exist, only fuckboys and extroverts? You’re intelligent enough to not believe this, yet still pretend to yourself that anyone who isn’t extroverted with you must “not be interested”... why?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 12:43 PM
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I’m appalled at what I’m reading. Hypocrisy and double standards over and over.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 08:45 PM
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Best reply in this entire thread. Bravo Cimorene.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 02:43 PM
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short balding dudes don't exude masculinity. Would like to chime in with some irony here: - Male pattern balding is caused by genetics + the presence of DHT, i.e. a molecule created by Testosterone- Growth plates are closed by oestrogen, and oestrogen can only be created via testosterone in males. Earlier puberty and thus earlier exposure to testosterone is associated with shorter adult height... So all in all, one could argue that a short balding man is even more "masculine" than a tall guy wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 10:22 AM
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I'm 26 and studying a bachelors degree, and am in a club and its been fantastic for socialising. I highly recommend it, no one even cares to ask your age or have an issue after finding it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 08:54 AM
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obesity doesn't fuck with sex hormone levels the same way on women. on the contrary Please don't rely on this hormone idea as to make claims around behaviour. Male hormones aren't changed that signficantly by obesity. Plenty of testosterone will be aromatising into excess oestrogen as a result of excess adipose tissue, but it sure as shit isn't to a degree that they lose their sex drive or become oestrogen dominant like women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 11:23 PM
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Great post. I would hate to see evolution going forward to be based around what women find viscerally attractive (rather than also who's better at survival as it once was too). One would hope society should now have natural selection based on other more beneficial and logical means, but I guess we don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 10:33 PM
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No, your examples are useless because quite frankly, they are rigged. You need a more balanced comparison where the 6 ft guy doesn't have to have something incredibly wrong with him. A realistic comparison like average 6'0" and 5'9" guys of relatively similar traits and personalities, not one where the 6'0" guy has to be a woman beater or abuser to ensure he can't be chosen. Also, a person above made a great point that often times neither would get chosen as a result of the 6'0" guy being off th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 09:58 PM
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There are a few women who don't want a younger man, and they do that to avoid other women judging them. The fact you can be commonly judged negatively by other women for this, pretty much proves my point of its existence. In terms of everything else, height is the exact same way in how truly influential other people's opinions can be to a woman (unfortunately), but yes, taller height can be innately preferred too as you mentioned. "she also wants his height for her own reasons" I'm sure you didn…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 09:52 PM
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Agreed to all above, good talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 09:46 PM
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won't even consider someone who doesn't have that and that mold to fit is incredibly narrow The male porn category and female pornstar varieties (the latter of which male pornstars dont exhibit), proves this is outright false alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 07:17 PM
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"He feels like my younger brother" is one of the most repeated lines ever by young women, when explaining the reason for turning a man down or not considering a romantic possibility with him one day (both in private and not). I've heard this IRL, on TV and even on this subreddit. It was only last week I heard on top UK TV show "Love Island" that multiple girls were chatting together, no male around, and said they "could never respect a man who's younger in a relationship" and "it would feel weir…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 07:07 PM
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Ah I'm very sorry to hear that, screw those humans. Makes a lot of sense, thanks for sharing with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 07:03 PM
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I'm very grateful and lucky for the fact I really enjoy the act of exercising, not just the results (both weights and cardio). I feel like it is almost pure luck whether you turn out to enjoy it or not, it's zero effort to commit long term as a result and serves as an advantage for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 07:01 PM
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True, sorry I should've added the qualifiers of same age range and not fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 06:50 PM
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Oh yes, sorry I'm fairly new and forget about the systems in place here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 06:48 PM
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Sure, but that sentiment would be in favour of OP's argument at that point. So many layers to this it seems. I will say however, I guess Ron Jeremy is more of an argument in favour of the mental/ emotional being able to completely supercede any physical drawbacks, for women? Or is Ron Jeremy's success due to there not being as many options back then as today... perhaps he'd fail miserably career wise today if just starting out.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 06:46 PM
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Sure thing. There are definitely several layers of hypotheticals one would need to assume to try and work this out. In terms of using yourself as a realworld example, why aren't you a fan of the typical male pornstar look e.g. Jonny Sins, James Deen etc.?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 06:43 PM
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There are 1.5 billion women between 20-40 in the world. I wish this line would stop being used. One man is not going to meet even 0.1% of these people in his lifetime, and as we know, dating for men is a game of numbers as it is, opportunities are usually just that and not much more.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 06:30 PM
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Pretty irrelevant when men find the majority of women attractive, even when they have a preference. For women, the immutable traits matter much more such as face, jawline and height, which unfortunately can't be worked on. Leanness doesn't build a jawline or transform an ugly face.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 06:28 PM
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The woman in the scene is still having sex with the man though... and so the man remains a very important and relevant subject, and so the notion/ argument still stands with this line of thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 06:25 PM
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cites and links female pornstar variation and studies on attraction based on height and BMI
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 06:22 PM
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Interesting, why would fatherhood be a gain to their careers, rather than no change or loss?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 05:22 PM
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But if you want to have an actor that will appeal to the majority of watchers... Hypothetically speaking, assume the kind of porn I described was abundant.... the woman's body and features would vary much more significantly in these scenes than the man's would... as a direct result of women having more narrow standards. This would suggest OP's argument is correct, despite current porn being made mostly for men, agreed?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 04:36 PM
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Agree with everything above, but couldn’t the argument remain true that those same men in such a high quality, well written storied and lengthy scene also be the same stereotypical 6 ft “Chad” by default? You’d never see a short, weak looking Male in that place.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 12:27 PM
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You said they want someone 2-3 years older which is stupid. Almost all women don't prefer that Wrong, go through his links. Some women have great issue in a man being younger than them even.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 09:32 AM
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If he's anywhere near 37, he should be lifting weights for both health and looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 09:28 AM
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This. /end thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 09:26 AM
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Lol why is exercise mandatory If you could put all the physical and mental health benefits into a pill, it would be the most impactful medication of the next century.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 09:13 AM
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Good read :)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 09:12 AM
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"and it’s because most men lack objectively attractive traits" Yes, yes you did with the quote above... and I corrected you with my hormone response.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 12:34 AM
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You folks aren't getting this at all. Brad Pitt is not huge, muscle gain slow down for naturals doesn't come into this equation, it really is quite irrelevant. Gaining muscle over a prolonged period of time in this particular instance is a low effort, long term endeavour. Losing fat and cutting to a very low body fat requires FAR more discipline and effort and is a shorter but far more intense and challenging process that most people utterly fail at achieving. THIS is why Zack Efron's physique i…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 12:29 AM
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"Off" in what way?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 12:02 AM
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That fact is true, but that's nothing to with the reasoning behind it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 12:02 AM
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I'm a guy seriously into lifting yes. Also yes, actions speak louder than words.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 11:59 PM
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Lol. Make sure you apply progressive overload though somehow for them gains :D
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 11:57 PM
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There's a difference between "abs popping out" and Zac Effron body fat percentage, which again, is exactly my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 03:38 PM
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They probably went extinct due to a combination of climate change and competition with the more adaptable Modern humans Bingo. Them being shorter by 5" or less on average isn't going to be the difference maker, their hunting strategies or environment is, exactly my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 03:37 PM
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I think most women are too quick to assume that bodybuilders and similarly dedicated lifters have chosen to get to that size for the purpose of women. Any guy who’s decided to get to such a size knows full well that attraction is no longer on the list of goals/ priorities, and even acknowledges it may hurt their attractiveness overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 01:38 PM
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First time seeing that chart, but I knew for a fact muscular glutes in men would be the most desirable muscle group for straight women. More men need to do barbell hip thrusts and equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 01:33 PM
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That is one major natural selection assumption leap, that’s for sure. Us surviving and Neanderthals not for the reason of physique differences are extremely slim.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 01:22 PM
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Height in men vs. duck lips in women, are you really trying to compare these? Show me a study that indicates women with blatantly surgically enlarged lips are preferred over no surgery, to men. Show me a male on Tinder who has “lip filler or gtfo” or similar in their bio. Show me online dating websites that have a “lip size” filter. You simply cannot compare the weight/ value/ gravity of these things. The reason I bring up lip size is because the majority of men prefer a girl does not have lip f…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 11:12 AM
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Tell me you hate short males without telling me you hate short males, sheesh. “Tiny”, "Silly tryhards" and "dudebros" lmao. Your observations on a subreddit with the primary demographic of insecure teenagers is NOT a place to draw conclusions from. Why I have to tell you this blows my mind. You're stereotyping and prejudicing beyond belief. Tall men just like bodybuilding, and short men of course must be compensating as you can't just like bodybuilding at that height, sure, the logic is simply a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 10:51 AM
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Somatotyping is extremely archaic and outdated so I'd probably just stop using that terminology for starters. Shredded =/= lean That's specifically why I said Zac Effron in Baywatch, because getting that lean is difficult for anyone and a much more intense process than building muscle, which is more a low level effort sustained over a prolonged period of time (do not pay attention to what actors say they do for this or diet). Some people find eating at a deficit easy sure, but no one is comforta…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 10:46 AM
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hot thots with duck lips, Kardashian asses and all that The irony here is most men don't like dating ducks or blatantly surgically enlarged hips. Women's obsession with plastic surgery honestly is a female insecurity phenomena, and is not at all desired by 99% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 10:37 AM
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Wrong, attraction and sex drive is driven primarily by hormones. Delete testosterone from a mans body, women are no different from another man (well studied, as old as time).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 10:34 AM
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You can't game theory this. Women are a complete random enigma? No, women, on average prefer; tall to short, good looking to ugly, normal weight over obesity, rich to poor... so on and so forth. So yeah, you absolutely can game theory this to use those specific words.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 10:28 AM
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Short men in particular seem to go for the big bulky muscles to overcompensate and it looks comical on them. Why does it look comical on them? Also, is this a sly dig to assume every short guy who bodybuilds just has short man syndrome?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 10:24 AM
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Getting that shredded is NOT HARD for ectomorphs. To Zac Efron Baywatch level? Wrong, very wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 10:22 AM
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Guess what demographic of the population boy groups appeal to the most? *Face palm*
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 11:23 AM
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1 hour a day 3-5x times a week is all that is required to build or maintain a lot of muscle. I don't know where this trope came from that assumes every muscular guy must spend 6 days a week in the gym for 2 hours each day as though they are a professional bodybuilder, it's exhausting to see.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 11:20 AM
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Wasn’t replying to her, I replied to you. Every single message of yours was completely dismissive of the guy, and was almost like you were cheering on to bin the guy with zero empathy. I certainly would not ever want to be your partner with such an attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 09:26 PM
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No, I typed that under the impression the woman agreed to allowing the man to have sex elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 09:18 PM
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By definition, a small “tweak” that changes a girl from attractive to model tier is a BIG change. The same change would not take a non-attractive girl to a model. I guarantee that such a change would not increase attractiveness of the girl to a significant degree, and is more a gross look at standard model attributes than it is beauty or visceral attractiveness. I’m open to changing my mind though on this if examples, as I don’t know the extreme particulars.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 06:01 PM
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Because “fuck the guy” right? Live your best life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 05:57 PM
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Loyalty (in a relationship but not sex) is morally superior than ending a relationship and trading up, imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 05:54 PM
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The point is, tiny tweaks do next to nothing for attraction. That’s the whole point, big changes make notable additions or subtractions to attractiveness. 1 pound of fat loss isn’t going to make a difference, 10 lbs might though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 05:46 PM
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No, but we sure as hell know and find out when x person we find attractive, or x partner has/ hasn't had plastic surgery. I can't remember the last time a man said "I like full lips on a woman". How it even became popular in the first place confuses me. It's purely female rhetoric.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 05:12 PM
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We don’t need more people Actually, most western and developed countries aren't reproducing at replacement levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 04:22 PM
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.... Exercising =/= body fat percentage. No one has to work out to be lean, it's purely diet. Why I have to explain this blows my mind, and honestly shows that this "expectation" of yours really is just complete misunderstanding and incorrect assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 03:38 PM
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Women getting plastic surgery =/= expected to get plastic surgery. This isn't how logic works, it's how emotions work. "She's doing x therefore I must". As soon as you ask "Why" this all breaks down immediately, as the average man will say too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 03:37 PM
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You honestly believe this link and single study "proves" yours or the scientists conclusions? That is not how science works. I could link you SO many studies indicating conflicting evidence to this regarding height in men, looks in men, incomes in men and all the OLD data on top.... Yet you've seen it all before and know this all to be true.... but then continue to type "SoUrCe" as to troll, provoke and flat out annoy people on anything you read which you don't like, instead of trying to discuss…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 03:35 PM
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"Flabby thighs" is inherently unnatural, not natural.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 03:27 PM
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It may help to know that the majority of men will think Faye on Love Island looks like a duck, and I am very serious about that. Conflict even erupted on the show due to female insecurity, when a male described looking "fake" as being inherently unattractive to him. Ever heard a similar comparison for height in men? THAT is how ineffective and how not of a requirement plastic surgery is. Notice how the most attractive women in there for all the men (Chole and Lucinda) are not plastic in the face…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 03:24 PM
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Guardian is an extremely biased newspaper What they are referring to is working on computers for administrative work, back when that was the majority of the use cases for computers. To this day women are the majority of people performing in these roles, there are just more roles than just administration done on PC's now. Women didn't get "sidelined" as the article suggests, they literally just found interest in other things. Female students have never since been banned from choosing STEM as thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 03:09 PM
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Innacurate feminist propaganda.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 03:06 PM
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also women are Also expected to work out Wrong again. Why do you keep using the word "expect", it just destroys your credibility. Maybe 5-10% of men in the world demands a partner exercises. If you said "expect to be not be fat" then you'd be correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 03:04 PM
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Women are expected to get plastic surgery This is such an utter load of nonsense. NO ONE has ever said you "should get plastic surgery" in order to be attractive. No way in hell, in the West at least. Want to know a true "requirement" though of young men? Don't be short, or you'll have no hope in hell in Online Dating (as is reality for 99% of short men), and have a significant reduction in the amount of women who will date you. Next you'll be arguing that breast size is just as important to att…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 03:03 PM
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Why don't you provide a source that would argue otherwise instead of typing "SoUrCe?" to everything you disagree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 02:51 PM
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Why should we change when this has men tripping over their dicks to get one of us? "What's in it for me" Glad i'm not your partner. Way to go promoting your gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 10:33 AM
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Polls have revealed that while most people believe LGBTQ people make up a full 23 percent of the population It actually blows my mind a little that anyone would think 1 in 4 people aren't straight, do they live under a rock?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 10:31 AM
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Women look better, smell better Wrong. Hormones dictate what looks and smells "better" to the individual, not some preconceived individual notion of art or beauty. Finally, a straight man who is viscerally attracted to their female partner, is going to go extra lengths for the woman than the straight woman who only sees her as a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 10:22 AM
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This isn't a dig btw, just seeing if I can help. Your height, weight and estimated body fat percentage could be of help too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 06:26 PM
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Have you tried recording all calories you consume on MFP and ensuring you hit a daily 300-500 caloric surplus and protein goal? Are you still achieving progressive overload week to week? Have you increased weekly training volume over time? Do you train each body part twice a week?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 10:14 AM
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Thanks for these detailed responses you've been providing. Did you ever decide to start taking roids, and why have you been considering using them in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 09:25 AM
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This statement can only be true if you can replace "femininity" with it also, and do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 05:27 PM
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Asses are plump so you can sit without gnawing down your tail bone. This is true for men and women. We didn't evolve big asses or hips for sitting, I assure you of that. The sheer size of the gluteus maximus was a crucial evolutionary development to enable upright walking and running. It's extremely well documented and understood. However, the difference between gluteal shape between men and women, after accounting for pelvis width, could be down to enhancing attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 03:54 PM
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Why is the expectation of men to be "tall and confident” labelled as “toxic masculinity” or "patriarchy" when women are by far and away the most vocal and influential in determining the overall value and expectation for men to be tall and confident? As a result, like many have already tried asked, Why are toxic behaviours like this GENDERED when BOTH sexes do these things? THIS is the core issue with the term.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 05:27 PM
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Very good question. I'm a student (although mature student) and so only hang around with younger people. Yet I've heard words and beliefs like "mansplaining" and "toxic masculinity" and "patriarchy" from several girls of varying ages who are/ arent students, including ex's. Only one or two identified as feminists. Whether we like it or not, these people are growing up and are extremely common. Whether much older people who don't keep up with changing culture act/ think this way is irrelevant to …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 05:22 PM
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Why is “expecting men to be tall and confident” labelled as “toxic masculinity” when women are by far and away the most vocal and influential in determining the overall value and expectation for men to be tall and confident? As a result, like many have already asked, Why are toxic behaviours like this GENDERED when BOTH sexes do these things? THIS is the core issue with the term.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 01:55 PM
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Someone needed to break down the Gillette ad for the shortsighted and naysaying ladies. Thank you sir.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 01:29 PM
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Where are you getting these “most” or “half” of women claims, when studies show a very different story? Absolute projections or assumptions. You don’t even need studies to challenge these ideas either, as we know what the average penis size and know “large” penises is not the average.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 12:51 PM
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"I do not care what any person says. I have done this and been around a lot of different women and while some of them don't really say it. they are not interested in men that show vulnerability." This is just so true. I've noticed this with multiple ex's, multiple topics, and even at my brothers funeral too. These weren't repeated subjects or continued emotional outcry, they were one-off situations or discussions. Their faces and reactions were so overtly negative, and often times concerning as …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 11:07 AM
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Understood, apologies
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 10:41 AM
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Again, you reply to a well reasoned, detailed and time consuming comment with the laziest of all responses "Source?", instead of writing out a fair and reasoned reply critiquing it. This continued laziness is why you come off as a troll, not because you are in disagreement. And again, you're now calling biological evolution and nature "BS". In other threads you'll be claiming "Attraction is innate, muscularity and height in men is attractive, don't hate women for their preferences!".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 10:37 AM
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Guy creates thread discussing evolution and the shaming tactics used by women against men, for something evolution plays a big part in... Women respond to thread by shaming even more, this time mostly OP about his dick size as though his thread was ever personal. Actual yikes, so much for maturity.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 12:10 AM
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What in the... You literally described PIV orgasms being the norm and tried to shame OP as though it’s his dick being small (when this was never a personal thread)... then you cite a study that includes all types of orgasms as though that is relevant. Face palm.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 12:07 AM
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I’m sick and tired of reading “source?” In each of your lazy replies on different threads, usually in response to far more detailed comments. You come off as a troll almost every single time. The source of “primitive brains” is found in literally almost 90% of animal biology comparing species, genetics and biological evolution. Hormones, neurons, the nervous system, endocrine system and everything else is so much older than Homo sapiens.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 11:57 PM
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Ah yes, the “real man” shaming tactic to describe anything but your ideal to be “no longer a man”, as though you have authority over it. Yikes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 11:54 PM
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I responded to the notion that “height has barely an effect on sexual success” not whether short men can find a partner at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 11:20 PM
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I used to believe compounds were the fastest track to hypertrophy until very recently, after over a decade of being passionate about resistance training and the science behind it all. I have a chronic shoulder issue however, and have been juggling with volume on OHP/ bench for years as to try and balance between progress and grinding to a halt in pain. I stumbled across this new information by accident, but it's revolutionised my training. You seem quite interested in this topic, I urge you chec…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 09:52 PM
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This 100%. It still baffles me that women then actually claim that "men don't try hard enough", when the reality is clear as day as to which party puts more effort in.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 09:44 PM
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Ah yes, because "toxic mascunility" isn't thrown around loads these days... meanwhile, "toxic femininity" seemingly doesn't exist in the universe apparently. Such a filtered lens you evidently look through.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 09:34 PM
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From all the things you listed, I am still struggling to see how tallness could be even considered a power imbalance. High heels exist y'know. *Face palm*
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 09:13 PM
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Yes, you absolutely do not need the bench press to gain max chest size, nor overhead press for max deltoid size. Plenty of other exercises that when overloaded, can get you moving along the same path of progress.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 05:24 PM
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So taller and bigger is usually better? ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 09:52 AM
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Most western countries aren't reproducing at replacement levels either.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 09:38 AM
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GLP-1 Agonists and stimulants? The exact compounds women can use too? No idea what you are getting at, but again... hunger is relative, a GLP-1 agonist will curb hunger relative to a percentage of ones normal hunger, not some arbitrary number like 1000kcal equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 01:34 AM
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Long married? Probably in reference to dead bedrooms or similar then, given how common they are. Men are way more content with familiarity, tedium and routine than women are outside of this, and it shows in the language.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 01:32 AM
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you can control it with drugs And what drugs may those be? There is a tiny amount of drugs that can meaningfully increase caloric burn, and those are thyroid medications, along with DNP which cooks your body from inside out. You answered your first sentence with the quote of mine below.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 08:53 PM
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One less layer? Fat isn't distributed in layers. Secondly, losing weight is not any easier for men, the law of thermodynamics applies equally to both genders, one just starts at a higher BMR (this doesn't make it any easier, hunger adjusts relative to BMR). The only difference is men may have an easier time maintaining their muscle mass while in a caloric deficit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 08:50 PM
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The fact that women can get "bored" in relationships is just awful in of itself. Imagine if a man said that, he'd be called a cheater or unloyal partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 06:28 PM
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Increased muscle size doesn't increase basal metabolic rates that significantly. Taller stature in men is more responsible for this disparity, but losing weight from this point is not any "easier" due to "testosterone" or any other nonsense. Hunger is relative to one's body weight and energy expenditure (e.g. caloric deficit size), not how many calories are consumed absolutely (1,500 cals vs. 2,000 cals).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 09:46 AM
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Weight is extremely controllable outside of those in literal biological disease states. Can't lose weight and maintain the loss? Try much harder in adjusting your lifestyle. Facial aesthetics, height, muscle size, facial hair and even income are at best much harder to control, or at worst, completely impossible to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 09:43 AM
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Awesome, thanks. Not sure why I got downvoted.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 05:02 PM
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And yet these gaps can be explained by a number of different variables, some of which people in this thread have touched upon (but there’s still even more). The explanation for these gaps, is why studies show there is not a 1:1 gender pay gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 11:35 AM
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Source? Perhaps you need to add “to people who frequently get too much sun”?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 11:31 AM
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On top of all of this, most adults in the UK are Vitamin D deficient outside of summer months... we need more sun here, not less.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 11:30 AM
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Ironically, around 70% of adults in the UK should supplement with Vitamin D as they’re deficient for most of the year, given primarily British weather. If anything, our skin should be whiter to capture more.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 11:28 AM
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Whilst I agree with you r.e. men should take up skin care more, and it would make men look younger... the primary reasons the men your age look older than the women is literally due to 1) Makeup 2) Filters and 3) Better photos.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 11:24 AM
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6'9 dude w an 11in He doesn't have an 11" dick, it's likely around 7-9", let's be realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 10:32 AM
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Obviously, has a good face
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 10:28 AM
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Because the word "tall" is literally about relativity, what doesn't it have to do with it? Humans don't differ by size to the scale that skyscrapers do, it's by inches.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 10:14 AM
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100%, great summary.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 10:12 AM
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Very sorry to hear all of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 10:06 AM
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It's nice to read this - many women say the proportions of a shorter man are a bigger issue than the height itself, to the overall aesthetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 10:04 AM
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Personally, I have no issue calling out people on their bullshit, logically breaking down why they are wrong when no one else will due to a fear of conflict. I tell it how it is. However, due to me also being short, it's much more difficult calling people out on literal heightism towards me or others as it's met with illogical nonsense such as I must have short man syndrome or am insecure for tackling it. This really pisses me off, and one day I want calling out heightism to be normalised as cal…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 10:01 PM
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Did you actually not read anything of what I just said and chose to argue instead? You've literally mimicked what I've said with each of the quotes? I'll clarify some of the minor inaccuracies in the quotes given they are incomplete, and your false conclusions taken from them: - Of course older men will have decreased bodyweight as they age. Included in this is the fact most old men are literally clinically testosterone deficient (a different conversation to supraphysiological amounts of testost…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 09:59 PM
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Firstly, the primary reason women have lower BMR’s than men is literally due to their heights. It’s why TDEE for a 5’5” man is over 1,000 calories less than a similarly muscled and BMI 6’2” male. Equating for height, a 5’5” Male does have a BMR that is slightly higher than a 5’5” woman, but this primarily comes down to literal body weight (more LBM than just muscle size), leading to higher body weights. Secondly, increased muscle mass has a negligible effect to BMR on a lb for lb basis... the on…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 07:50 PM
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It is literally always men (and could well be shorter men) who are mocking those women for having height requirements. I think this is more a direct reaction from the people who are affected by this, rather than tall men and other women calling these people out on it and keeping them in check. These instances you describe are far far far outnumbered by literal heightism social media posts, likes, RT’s and women saying “yas queen” to then saying heightist BS publicly. What I’d like to see is heig…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 07:40 PM
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The irony. I've been on TRT for a long time. Prior to that, I took AAS. What you are describing is complete broscience. Tren, masteron and all the other remaining DHT-based AAS do not promote fat loss, they change intramuscular and extracellular water retention, and is responsible for the "hardening effect" that bodybuilders seek out during cuts (in prep for competition. Tren in particular is known for being uniquely muscle sparing on a mg to mg basis, versus other steroids, making it the perfec…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 06:19 PM
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Steroids have zero effect on fat loss (law of thermodynamics) outside of allowing one to diet to extreme body fat levels, without losing fat. This excludes outlier cases like those originally with clinically low testosterone and similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 02:43 PM
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When you’re tall muscles look better Could you expand on this please, explain how and why? Also, 5'7" muscular male vs. 6'0" average male, similar in all other traits... which is better to you? Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 11:19 AM
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I haven't seen any of this "tall shaming" you speak of, and not noticed any change over the past 3-5 years online.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 10:52 AM
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I'd guess that height filtering is the norm for young women on OLD, and the majority filter by the average male height or above (where possible).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 10:29 AM
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A different universe to the average man, damn.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 05:21 AM
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Cheating on a gf, even though I've never done it, isn't that big of a deal. In this day and age, she probably cheated first anyway. Or she was some thot that wasn't ever supposed to be long term. This is grim, and I'm not sure whether to express apathy to you for believing this or society, perhaps both.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 10:16 AM
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This 100%, archive the thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 12:18 AM
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Wouldn't have guessed you'd partner with someone who was once very muscular, given your apprehension towards perceived vanity, that's awesome. Congratulations on your successful relationship. I lift weights myself and have friends who could pass off as American Ninja Warriors, and it frustrates me (not to any significant degree) that many believe (women in particular) it must be a pursuit of vanity or other psychological defect. Or, is any indication of personality outside of say dedication, or …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 09:22 AM
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I agree with everything apart from the last sentence. There is behaviour involved in securing dates though too, and this must not be forgotten.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 09:45 AM
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Interesting, thanks for sharing. Does this equally apply to very physically fit men for you too? Not bodybuilder big/ shredded, but very noticeable the man lifts weights when in clothes, and nearing a 6 pack in leanness?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 09:32 AM
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I think you intended to reply to the thread as a whole, rather than my post alone. However, yes I did take into account that most women are on treadmills, ellipticals etc. doing cardio when in gyms, and yes my points still stand about men outnumbering them everywhere. To respond to the rest - If women didn't have makeup and optimise their clothing, and didn't follow a skincare routine.... men would still find women as a whole more attractive than women as a whole find men. It truly is mostly hor…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 08:43 AM
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This entire message is supported by my past relationships with women.... and exactly why I'm disappointed and apprehensive about relationships in general. These things being true is actually sickening and extremely off putting, and pretty much a turn off for many self respecting men. It's a very slightly frustrating even to be reminded of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 09:43 AM
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I'm confused, aren't you in favour of communication and experimentation between the couple then, rather than what OP is suggesting is that a man should turn up and somehow just know what will work for the new sexual partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 11:57 PM
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So you agree with OP then? It’s something that is learned on ones own experiences, rather than communicated by the woman at the time?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 05:34 PM
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So you agree with OP then? It’s something that is learned on ones own experiences, rather than communicated by the woman at the time?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 05:34 PM
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It's a little baffling that you'd even go to mention vagina aesthetics and tightness in a world where penis aesthetics and size is talked about and ridiculed as much as it is. It's almost like raising a white flag in the air.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 04:27 PM
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Absolute nonsense, men are the vast majority of gym goers in all age groups and demographics, in the overwhelming majority of gym environments (colleges, universities, commercial gyms, bodybuilding gyms etc.). Not only that, but the disparity in most sports and physical pursuits is even larger.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 12:14 PM
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My point is evidently intended to illustrate height isn't the be all end all of what determines who is the better fighter. The odds of a 4'7" man coming into contact with a 6'7" man is so ridiculously slim, that it's a ridiculous point to bring up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 09:40 PM
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Title/ Blast/ Motto checks out ;) (I have no idea what it's called lol)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 10:38 AM
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Glad you quoted my message, to show I said "stronger" and not "heavier" or "longer reach" in my statement. Also, pointing to 0.001% extremes doesn't help your argument. As an aside, I'd much rather fight 6'2" Logan Paul 200+ lbs, than 5'8" Mayweather at 147 lbs.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 10:27 AM
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The subject was leadership effectiveness. No one mentioned large age gap relationships, you keep doing so though for some unknown reason. I assume it's just fuelled by misandrist mindset being on full defence mode constantly. You immediately take 2 people questioning the validity of your female maturation point, then suddenly take it to predation and grooming! You seem unhinged.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 10:26 AM
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Superficial is an adjective, google it, it's very simple. It is down to the person reading it whether they get an emotional reaction and feel like it's a negative attribute to have or not. Buying clothes and using makeup is a superficial endeavour in 99% of cases, this is reality, whether this accurate description offends you or not is irrelevant. It's the exact same thing as calling a male short... someone can be described as short, but it be presented clearly as a literal descriptor/ feature. …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 12:00 AM
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When we all know that testosterone means rage issues. Aka POOR leadership. Got a source for that? Why are we ignoring the negative traits associated with oestradiol here? For example, increased emotionality overall. Why are you cherry picking variables and traits while ignoring all others like the positives that work against your narrative?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 11:48 PM
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Almost everything you've uttered e.g. "If they even do (mature) TBD" is wholly sexist and contains insane irrational blanket statements that excludes so many variables. You are an extremely sexist individual based on your writing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 11:46 PM
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Do you even know to what extent a woman matures faster? What does "mature faster" even mean to you? Tangible details, measurable variables. Finally, why on earth are you under the assumption "maturing faster" is the be all end all at what contributes to leadership skills? I could rail off so many more male specific traits that could have a far more impactful benefit to leadership for example, but you wouldn't want to hear them evidently based on your presuppositon.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 11:41 PM
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.... what?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 11:38 PM
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I thought the same reading how casual that sentence actually is. Different worlds.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 10:58 PM
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This 100%. Reading these responses from the women and comparisons to literal pedophilia is worrisome.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 10:45 PM
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I do agree with this assessment, totally. All I'm arguing about is the average male/ female above, and certainly not about those with so much discretionary income that they can afford to play status competition with extremely pricey assets like vehicles.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 10:13 PM
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Interesting, thanks for responding. How tall are you might I ask? Also, what did you mean by "NBD" above? I'm curious as to what the issue was with dating the 5'5" guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 10:11 PM
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No one mentioned the word "superior" or of "higher value", it's only mentioned by people who take offence at the difference between function and form. We were talking about superficiality, that is it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 10:09 PM
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No one mentioned the word "superior", it's only mentioned by people who take offence at the difference between function and form. Were talking about superficiality, that is it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 10:07 PM
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I don't know what was confusing, but toys have function. Call them "toys" to try and degrade them as much as you want, them having function is in the name.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 10:05 PM
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Actually you are less superficial in your examples... as you’re spending your money on things with function* I.e. “toys”. Toys like motorbikes are fun to use and have purpose. Clothes, jewellery and similar is much more superficial as the only added purpose is to look better (expenditure on form*).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 03:32 PM
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You said “physical security” not “physical”. I corrected you based on the definition of security, it’s functional.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 11:51 AM
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That inherently isn't actual security though, that's a look. Taller =/= stronger Masculine =/= stronger/ more dangerous More muscular is certainly stronger though as muscular* size and strength are tightly linked. Physical security = resources, weaponry and ability in combat.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 10:59 AM
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What physical security?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 10:53 AM
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Awesome post.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 10:53 AM
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Not the best comparison. I would say Chris having a significantly better face, great facial hair, more masculine features genetically (excluding height) and a better physique would combine to be much more prominent factors than height alone, height would be a bonus to most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 10:37 AM
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By frame, do you mean bone structure or physique/ musculature? Curious if a very good looking <5'10" guy with very muscled (but not to an extreme level) physique Would top a 6'0"> guy with skinny physique and average face, for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 10:23 AM
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What does elegance mean to you in this context? Can a shorter man not be elegant too, or what specifically makes taller stature more elegant? Curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 10:18 AM
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It's not that male bodies are any less aesthetically pleasing than women's, it's that women have significantly lower sex drives AND aren't as visually stimulated for arousal as men are. That is it, it is simply the hormones of the beholder talking, rather than the true beauty of the visuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 11:52 AM
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I say to get bigger and bigger as there is a point in which we shoulda stop gaining muscles as we don’t need that much muscles, no one does. At all. They have no purpose I could say the exact same thing for 95% of hobbies, including your dancing. This is the issue here. "I dance cause it’s fun, I love how it feels and I don’t ever dance infront of anyone. I love music and I express my emotions through my bodywith dancing." Someone could easily say -> "I bodybuild cause it's fun, I love how lifti…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 10:56 AM
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Every single point you just made equally applies to all modelling, which includes fashion modelling, runway modelling and all forms of female modelling, all of which doesn't involve much weight training. You saying "to get bigger and bigger" is not a reason, so stop repeating that line lol. Then I ask, why do you dance? What function does it have? To show off your dancing skills to other people? Or is it because you like dancing to yourself in the mirror? How about the act of dancing itself, do …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 10:15 AM
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Yes, you are clueless if you've read all that I wrote and still want to believe every single super muscular/ ripped person is doing it for purely narcissistic reasons. I'm also assuming you dislike exercise too, as you seem pretty oblivious to/ can't fathom the idea that anyone could enjoy exercising this much. Why is it so difficult for you to not be prejudiced and assume the worst of people? How would you feel if you were categorised with a slew of negative characteristics just because you do …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 09:51 AM
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The massive issue here, and something you are completely missing, is that people often times participate in hobbies for their own enjoyment (intrinsic factors) and not for the approval of others, insecurity or similar (extrinsic factors). I'm not a bodybuilder, but do you really honestly believe that hulking bodybuilders are unaware of the fact that they make themselves even more unattractive and ugly to the opposite gender and average person with each passing day? If what they were doing was fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 10:58 PM
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I agree with all of this, but this isn’t relevant to the subject I’m discussing specifically. Body shaming is not biological evolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 09:46 PM
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It’s very common. I’ve experienced it in multiple relationships I’ve been in, I’ve heard several examples of this happening too to friends, more on top of that also from third parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 09:45 PM
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Wouldn’t the constant negative judgment of girls by her girlfriends for being with a short Male be the purest of example of “group think” and patriarchal influence? (Men are to be big and dominant, women small and submissive etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 01:13 PM
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I agree with everything you've said here, I just find issue with the word "settle". To "settle" is to originally seek out exclusively x before hand, and that not achieving x for the person is an inherent problem. To solve the "problem" one has to agree to accept less than is originally desired. If that word wasn't used, I'd have no issue. Of course people can be attracted to an ideal more than the average, but that doesn't mean the person believes or feels like they are "settling" by having to g…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 12:00 PM
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They can’t “snap someone in half” though, muscle size has way more impact to force production than height. This is why I mentioned muscular size earlier. Anyway, good talk and thanks for sharing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 04:58 PM
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What makes you so sure it "cannot be adjusted"? Should we say the same about rape and conclude "men are more powerful and have higher sex drives, just the way it is"? This is reality too no? Sounds like an unwilligness to try/ care hard enough to me, and many other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 03:32 PM
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Do you think perhaps its just that you've not come across a shorter guy who is also quiet then? Wouldn't want to miss out on potentially great partners if putting a preference on taller guys for a trait that is not exclusive to tall people. I love Altered Carbon! Only seen Season 1 so far though, it's been a while. Not sure if finding another couple looks "cute" should play into what someone is viscerally attracted to, that sounds more like a choice at that point, but I completely understand wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 03:28 PM
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So only tall men have good proportions to you, not average or shorter guys, regardless of muscle size?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 03:17 PM
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It's more a question of defining "sexually active" as its a subjective term.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 03:12 PM
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“Life’s not fair and never will be” is not justification for something that is wrong and can be adjusted. It’s a complete cop out, and could be easily passed off to anything else you’ve said, which I agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 02:20 PM
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If a man doesn’t want to keep the baby from a very early developmental point, he shouldn’t be forced into paying child support... he shouldn’t be FORCED to do anything either. It’s quite simple, and “her body her choice” existing (rightfully) shouldn’t somehow change that, but it does and it’s awful. The argument then becomes “he shouldn’t have chosen to have sex with her then”.... but this goes both ways, how about we use the same reason on the woman r.e. abortion choice? You wouldn’t like that…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 02:10 PM
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I’m from the UK, 90-95% of men are certainly not what I’d describe as “sexually active”. My close friendship group, acquittances, university groups and all sorts immediately contradicts that. So many young males are what I’d describe as “sexless” long term and pre covid (but not virgins). I’d describe UK/ US culture to be very similar when it comes to comparisons around dating/ OLD/ relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 02:03 PM
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Only thing I’m doubting you on is the frequency of “sexual harassment” you experience is all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 02:00 PM
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I agree totally, don’t beat yourself up over a preference you have no control over. What in particular do you also think it is that you find attractive in tall men? Why do you think say a slightly shorter but muscular male isn’t as attractive to you I.e. the intimidation/ dominance factor being balanced out in this example.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 01:58 PM
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Interesting. What in particular do you think it is that you find attractive in tall men? Why do you think say a slightly shorter but muscular male isn’t as attractive to you I.e. the intimidation/ dominance factor being addressed in this example.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 01:56 PM
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The point was, I don’t believe it’s actually your reality, just as the other person who conversed with you. Exaggerations, misinterpretations or outright lies will only harm the efforts of major victims and I don’t condone that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 01:50 PM
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Yeahhhhh... no.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 12:20 PM
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The only thing that gives you arousal is seeing a very tall silhouette on a male?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 10:11 AM
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The most disturbing word here is "settle", as though its justified/ natural and reasonable for her to not be attracted to anything but 6'2" Chad, and is unhappily "settling" for anything less.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 10:00 AM
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So you only like men that are of the 1% of the male population?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 01:01 PM
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Where on earth did I say acne was incurable above? All I told you was that topical (google the word, perhaps this is what confused you) does not work. I know through 10+ years of experience, and having been on all the medications at least once. You name it, OTC or prescribed, I've been on it/ used it. Moderate to severe long term acne is genetic in my family, and my older brother had it even worse. "Individual popping sessions", laser treatment and ANYTHING topical does not "cure" moderate to se…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 09:10 AM
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Topical anything is useless for moderate acne. For most people with long term acne issues, diet changes and increased washing make no difference either. Please do not throw around false information on a topic you aren't versed enough in.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 12:27 AM
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Testosterone will absolutely not help you lose fat, in fact it may even increase your appetite and make it even harder to lose weight. The only way testosterone (or AAS in general) will help you lose weight, is if 1) you have close to zero testosterone, which is extremely rare, most people who require TRT are low rather than zero. TRT/ testosterone does help maintain muscle mass when dieting, but that doesn't make the fat loss any easier necessarily. Bottom Line: Do not start TRT for easier fat …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 10:52 PM
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Are you, and do other men consider TRT mostly for physique enhancement? I can offer insight into my experience with TRT if you'd like to learn more on that topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 10:39 AM
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I explained the physiological stress response mechanism to exercise; cortisol via inflammation. You still have failed to explain how somehow lifting weights would do the opposite (almost as though you spout whatever nonsense you can think of that makes you feel better about yourself). All you've done is attacked instead. Finally, who on earth said I believe "red pill"? Great insight into your irrationality and stereotypical prejudices right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 05:29 PM
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You again, have zero idea what you are talking about. Lifting weights does not “raise stress levels”. All physical exercise healthfully spikes cortisol during the activity as a response to inflammation, but that’s it. If anything, lifting weights is a better stress reliever than cardio for most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 03:21 PM
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Most people who workout have "fragile egos"? This sounds more like someone trying to lie to themselves to make them feel better about not wanting to workout themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 11:03 PM
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I love how you conveniently changed the words from “looking to be muscular” to “obsessed” as an attempt to save yourself. Please explain to me why people who like to workout and improve their physiques must also have fragile ego’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 08:26 PM
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Scientifically, wrong. A total myth. Calories in vs. calories out. Testosterone does not increase BMR or make you lose weight. Body fat levels do not fluctuate with hormonal shifts during periods.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 11:39 AM
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Where on earth did you find the mental gymnastic juice you are slurping?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 11:35 AM
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Oh but there is plenty of proven links between testosterone and libido, this is a very well studied and understood phenomenon, in more species than just humans too.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 10:42 AM
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You know what, today I learned something, thanks for sharing. I'd love to know if the most severe cases of recorded acne (moderate to severe cystic acne, full body acne and worse) occur more commonly in males due to the DHT factor. However, based on my knowledge of biology, it does actually make logical sense that women would have higher rates of acne in adulthood, once male puberty is fully complete: Hormone level shifts are much worse for acne than large amounts of stable hormones, and the cle…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 10:00 AM
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Please stop glossing over what ohheyi99 is describing, he is discussing something completely different to consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 06:33 PM
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doing absolutely equal the work. It makes no sense for half the population to just... not do anything. You lost me at this. Do you honestly believe hunting is the only source of labour or valuable task a human can do in those times? You honestly believe someone who isn't optimised for hunting (physically or through sheer preference) must also be incapable of gathering? Seriously, if you can't even have this in mind when writing such a passage, don't bother writing the rest of it, you've already …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 06:27 PM
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Women are more prone to hormonal acne and other skin blemishes because we naturally have thinner and more delicate skin. Wrong. Men are much more likely to suffer from acne due to having far higher testosterone and thus DHT levels, producing more sebum. "Thinner skin" has no impact to anything like this or related. Also no, this "men can lose weight easier" is absolute nonsense. Calories in vs. Calories out, that's all that dictates weight loss.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 06:23 PM
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Absurdly rich coming from a place of extreme misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 09:14 AM
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Your misandry and hate for the male gender is staggering. I cannot even fathom how someone could legitimately consider typing this message out on resulting social disdain alone, never mind believing it is okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 09:11 AM
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Re-read what I typed, and please respond relevant to the points you originally made. No one mentioned grooming or poorly dressed people. We’re talking about the average person who isn’t poorly dressed, but not particularly well dressed either. We’re talking about the average person who does have regular haircuts, just perhaps not the perfect one. We’re talking about the person who doesn’t have dry and cracked skin, as the average person would moisturise it back to a normal state... These people …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 02:30 PM
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Yeah, it’s clear you don’t have the knowledge to make sweeping statements on this topic. hGH is a completely different thing to hCG.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 02:25 PM
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If you go off long term, hCG alone can be used to maintain natural testosterone levels that is produced only by your own body. This can be used permanently or used to get your body back to normal function. It's also definitely not a guarantee anyone will have non-existent test levels for a period longer than 1-3 weeks and experience the issues you describe, that is very rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 11:12 AM
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You don't need to "dose higher and higher", there is such a thing as called maintenance. If you lose the ability to produce your own Testosterone (rare) when you come off, then its resolvable. Finally, it's physiologically impossible to grow breast tissue if you have no testosterone as oestrogen is literally made from T in the body. No T = no oestrogen. If you're getting gyno, it's due to too much T aromatising into oestrogen while using steroids, which is also avoidable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 11:09 AM
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Wrong, it only lowers sex drive if you were to come off and didn't have the ability to produce your own testosterone anymore (this is far rarer than people let on and resolvable).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 11:07 AM
1

Could you elaborate on "thanks to roids" please? Most women don't like the level of muscularity that requires steroid use to achieve. Do you believe it's more a psychological benefit from them whether that be the increased testosterone and confidence that comes directly from the new hormonal environment? Or could it be simply the increased confidence/ status that comes from a biologically unnatural level of physique?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 11:04 AM
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Alarming? A difference sure, but someone going from average clothes to slim fit clothes and average haircut to a fade is NOT going to see an "alarming" amount of difference, that's simply untrue and well understood. If that was the case, anyone who does these two things would have notable success in dating despite other traits being similar to those who do not. Finally, skin care? Moisturising one's face will make them less ugly? I don't get what else you could mean in relation to skin care... a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 10:59 AM
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Indeed. As a teenager I used to want to get lean specifically for a 6 pack. Now, it's primarily for a more aesthetically pleasing face, which has a far more profound effect to appearance. Not only to attraction of course, but also respect, self happiness and general aesthetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 11:09 AM
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Good for you, you sound like a great person and I appreciate you. The point I was making (and JBP in general), is more so to chase and look for perfection in yourself before demanding perfection around you. You I imagine aren't the perfect type of person to hear this though. Its more applicable to those who are super emotionally focused on things like climate change/ wider social issues and similar, whilst they are very far from perfect themselves... complaining about others/ the environment and…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 11:06 AM
1

I'm not sure man, going from average to very lean can have a profound effect to facial attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 09:51 AM
2

Rule 6 - "Get your house in perfect order before you criticise the world" (JBP)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 09:50 AM
2

Irrelevant? Absolutely and identifiably not, quite the opposite. Also an absurd idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 11:17 AM
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There is no evidence that there is inherent behavioral difference of a relevant magnitude Are you a feminist? I don't see how anyone could genuinely believe this from a neutral position. Please see my previous message.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 10:08 AM
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I'm yet to see any proof of relevant behavioral differences between men and women that are not influenced by the society they were raised in Then you haven't looked very far for said proof, there are countless studies on very young individuals and vast personality/ behavioural differences which cannot be accounted for by the nurture side. Jordan B Peterson commonly cites to studies related to this, and is strongly against the idea of a "blank slate theory". IQ even is strongly related to genetic…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 10:07 AM
4

Men on average have preferences. Women on average have requirements and preferences, and at best a far far longer list of preferences than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 10:48 AM
1

This 100%, best reply yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 10:43 AM
4

I agree, however, you've got it wrong regarding attractiveness. Men typically find the physiques in professional porn (curvy but quite lean) much more physically attractive than super models (extremely lean, very small, extra skinny, runway esque face with often times the stereotypical unnatural facial look projecting androgyny, high cheekbones etc.). Models are for showing off a "look" or clothes. Porn stars are for the exclusive purpose of looking as hot as possible to a man. Honestly, outside…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 10:07 AM
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That dating advice is exclusively RP information and/ or for casual sex, not relationships. Like someone else said, men instinctively and biologically want to protect, please and give. This is why simping is so incredibly common in men vs. women, despite men being much more dominant, masculine and less emotional on average. It is literally the natural response in society today. It's also why a man seeing a woman crying has such an emotional effect. Men feel the urge to protect and help in these …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 10:13 AM
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I think that’s a disingenuous and unfair comparison at the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 07:48 PM
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Why do you keep speaking about this trait as though it's some mystical rare attribute that only a minority of men want and do? Most men want to protect and provide. It's almost as though one is trying to repeat it enough times as to make the extreme version more morally acceptable; finding a sugar daddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 10:27 AM
2

What a ridiculous assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 10:22 AM
2

Great stats and links Downvoteme, thanks for the read.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 10:20 AM
1

When I say nice cock I didn’t say huge cock. There’s more than just size that comes into it. If there's more to it than size, what could you possibly be referring to? Outside of a major freak deformity, you seem to be overanalysing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 10:15 AM
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You forgot a big one; women's superior conversational/ social skills (research it).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 11:06 AM
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Body dysmorphia is mostly the fault of toxic masculinity. Wrong. Women have wayyy higher levels of body dysmorphia, and wayyy more many men exercise, watch what they eat and try to improve their physique for the purpose of becoming more attractive, rather than dealing with a toxic bully.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 10:57 AM
2

Okay understood, thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 11:53 AM
1

Hello Mrs, what is wrong with my post above so I can adjust it for future please?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 11:49 AM
4

Now imagine if a male typed this and replaced it with "masculinity". A significant majority of the gynocentric society and feminists would be ranting about patriarchy in a heartbeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 10:52 AM
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Our goals are very similar - Being desired at all is the starting point for any sexual interaction with the opposite sex, whether that be sex or a relationship... -> A state of abundance is NOT as bad as a state of scarcity. -> Read other peoples replies saying the exact same thing in their own words. Nothing I said suggests I'm "raging", in fact, your essay would suggest it was you who is more invested in this conversation. This wall of text describing biology also does nothing but further prov…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 11:13 AM
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I have never ever seen a male say "I don't want kids its unmanly" or anything similar. What an out of this world absurd statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 10:34 AM
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'If he won't bend over backwards and take on an unfair level of risk, then he doesn't value me enough'. Great logic, keep pedalling inequality, keep viewing it from a place of solipsism.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 10:32 AM
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You raise good points, I think meeting half way between your arguments and direct fair market value comparisons + working on your own home, own schedule, own standards and pleasure of raising your own kids will determine the best rate, which is still far below "50/50".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 10:27 AM
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They are also looking after their own home, working to their own standards and schedule, and having the pleasure* of looking after their own kids. If anything, one could argue that it's worth less than fair market value.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 10:26 AM
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Promotions and pay increases are irrelevant to those who can't get a job in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 10:14 AM
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I think what the person above was saying is: - Ugly women (on average) are usually considered ugly due to being overweight (changeable) - Ugly men (on average) are usually considered ugly due to an ugly face or being short (unchangeable)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 10:08 AM
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Another thread like this, really? The old "a state of abundance is as bad as a state of scarcity". "Too much choice is as bad as no choice at all". This idea is just so flawed, and the mental gymnastics to argue on the subject is mind blowing. Raw solipsism in all its glory from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 10:01 AM
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"Doesn't it feel more like showing up for your own late night talk show?" Yes, in relationships even, and it can be exhausting. Men are usually expected to entertain unfortunately, the burden of performance in all its glory.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 09:46 AM
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Why are you discussing reddit? No one mentioned this website, only the wider population. You don’t only date through reddit do you when you say most men are undateable?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/21 06:10 PM
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Amazing replies, this thread is hereby concluded. /thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 04:18 PM
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You realise "subpar" means below average by defintion right? The AVERAGE male operates from a place of scarcity and very little choice, not just the bottom 20%. Frequenting this subreddit you should be aware of that by now.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 04:09 PM
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Why are you comparing a small age group of people (elderly) to a massive age group and percentage of people (80% of males in and broadly around your age group), as though that proves that your standards aren't absurdly high? https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/n0c2ib/the_projection_of_male_desires_onto_women_and_the/gw60iyr/?context=8&depth=9
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 03:06 PM
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It’s pretty obvious given how important all the other variables are. Dick size isn’t a big deal to most women providing you aren’t extremely small or extremely large. Secondly, no one can see dick size, you’d need to have sex first for it to even become a variable, and the rest of the variables listed are what get you to that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 01:27 PM
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Dick size should be 10 points at most, it’s outrageous you’ve put it at 5x everything else, it’s the least most important thing on the list.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 11:17 AM
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You’ve just contradicted yourself. You’re “happy with the SMP”... Do you think the 40-80% of men with little to no choice and in a place of scarcity are? Now do you still believe you have it just as bad because of how picky you are?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 11:12 AM
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A higher amount of experts in all areas (especially niche but important ones), and a higher amount of geniuses who single handedly produce generational level technological advancements (Einstein’s etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 11:07 AM
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False, overpopulation is a myth in developed countries (research it). We have a pollution and resource scarcity/ efficiency issue, those are different though. Majority of western countries aren't reproducing enough to even replace population levels, never mind increase it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 01:10 PM
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Yep, the 40-80% (depending where you look) of the male population that are in a state of scarcity are all "non-options", which reminds me of the classic OLD distribution that shows women classify most men (and thus the average) as "unattractive". Says it all really.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 12:56 PM
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Ah yes, the old "a state of abundance is as bad as a state of scarcity". "Too much choice is as bad as no choice at all". Drop this line of thinking, it's flawed at its core before the subject matter is even discussed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 12:00 PM
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"I guarantee you, if most of you got a girlfriend, it wouldnt work out because you dont have what it takes to make it work." I was enjoying reading until I was smacked with the biased/ man-loathing POV. Why couldn't you just have made the point without making it gendered? Why must it be some attack on men to make the point that relationships can turn out to be low quality, or people entering them for the wrong reasons? And to flip the script a bit, women on average care FAR more about a relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 10:46 PM
1

Why are you describing prostitution?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 12:08 PM
1

Then why continue with this line of thinking?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 10:09 AM
1

Okay, why?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 11:48 AM
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Wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 11:08 AM
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And wouldn’t that favour the shorter women due to being more attractive to the average male (on average)? I’m trying to give you truth as to help/ comfort you, not knock you down or bash genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 02:29 PM
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The average male couldn’t care less about magazines and TV when it comes to influencing what they are attracted to. This is wholly a feminine thing, being influenced by what others think/ care.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 01:43 PM
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Check this out, I've never seen a greater justice (US Mens vs. Womens pay discrepancies backfiring on the women) .https://youtu.be/3NaQ5lKhyYg
/r/PussyPassDenied23/04/21 12:48 PM
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I'm a male on the shorter side, and I prefer the shape/ curves/ silhouette of short women to tall women. The runway model/ skinny look on women is much more desired and liked by women on average, than men, in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 10:08 AM
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Okay, are you trying to suggest that the part of dropping 3-5 more lbs is more important to aesthetics than its implications for performance? Are you arguing gymnastics is unique to literally every other physical Olympic sport in this concretely understood variable?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 08:19 PM
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Male tallness is reinforced much more heavily by women, than it is men. How this could be described as “toxic masculinity” or “patriarchy”, I’ll never fathom. It’s sexist imo to even suggest this to be the case. However, I do have a lot of respect for you re-considering your position.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 08:16 PM
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I’m afraid you may be confusing the end goals. Most of Olympic gymnastics is as much about power to weight ratio, as it is flexibility. Gymnasts of either gender do not want to get as big as bodybuilders, even if the extra strength/ muscular leverage helped with certain movements. Gymnasts don’t want to be any more muscular than is required, as that adds weight and reduces flexibility in general. So, the easiest way to minimise body weight to make movements easier, is to eliminate the dead weigh…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 08:10 PM
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I wonder what % of the “Fat Acceptance” and “Body Positive” movements are men 🤪
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 02:55 PM
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Incorrect again, no idea where you are getting this information.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 02:54 PM
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Absolutely false, studies have shown time and time again that Steroids + no training >> Natural + training in LBM gain. PED’s won’t make you look like them without everything else, but you won’t ever look like many of them without the PED factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 02:53 PM
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You think a 1” insole will boost a man’s height from 5’6” to 6’?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 02:51 PM
1

How is this topic related to toxic masculinity? Wouldn’t it fall under “toxic femininity” if anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 02:44 PM
1

Who. On earth. Mentioned “rights” in this post?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 02:35 PM
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The science disagrees with you. Also, strength isn’t the only thing that plays into the interactions you described, and weight, aggression and speed are completely different variables. I’m sure many women were more “aggressive” than the average male just because they know they can get away with it, so put more effort into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 01:12 PM
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This thread is an attack on incorrect assumptions and PC woke culture, not on women. Stop projecting your misandry. In fact, I’ve read more misogynistic and short male hating than the opposite, ironically.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 01:09 PM
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Foul and unfounded assumption about short men, get a grip.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 01:07 PM
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Lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 11:40 AM
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100%, this is the truth. OP’s post is simply absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 04:34 PM
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No idea what is being assumed here, Amber Heard physically and emotionally abused Jonny Depp, even cutting off part of his thumb. She’s admitted to doing this on a recording, and has been extremely manipulative and a complete psycho. That is all there is to take from this relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 04:25 PM
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Men on average have higher emotional stability. This is well studied and not up for debate. Men also have higher levels of testosterone, making them more aggressive and dominant (leadership seeking) on average. These biologically based traits explain the differences between the genders in these types of scenarios.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 08:31 PM
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Not sure why most people are responding with "people prefer x". The thread is clearly comparing the difference in how frequently men date lower age groups, vs. how frequently women do the same. That's what's being analysed/ compared, not what an average person generally prefers.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 08:26 PM
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Feelings are feelings. They have a logical basis. Wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 09:41 AM
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Thanks for the detailed response. Personally, I was only referring to the relationship paradigm, not whether relationships > money, or determining the true value of relationships. My previous points remain true. Please see OP's response to your most recent message for further explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 09:15 AM
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I don't need to make an argument, you did it for me when you acknowledged women have an easier time than men getting into a relationship in the first place. With more opportunity and coming from a place of abundance, women have the advantage at this stage. Again, are you going to argue any later stages are easier for men? (which they aren't) then no, women have the privilege (or however you wish to describe it) in this area.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 11:13 PM
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I mean, guys arent entitled to sex and sex isnt a need, so I couldnt care less. It's as clear as ever why you so consistently post such misandrist content in this subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 09:32 PM
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Unless you are going to debate that men have an easier time than women at a different stage within the relationship building process (which you didn't), then no, women absolutely DO have the privilege in this area. The mental gymnastics within the rest of your passage (although entirely correct) does not change this fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 09:09 PM
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Not sure why you've had to explain this multiple times to women or other guys, not sure what they aren't understanding about this, it's very straight forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 09:06 PM
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Some do, but those women come to face their own social stigmas: being perceived as whorish or desperate Never heard of a woman being called a "whore" for asking one male out. This is such an absurd stretch. "Women who are so ‘unappealing’ that men grumble they ought to be ‘grateful’ for their approach after they’ve tried to get with her" Or plot twist, men put up a front after such a rejection, as they: Could be berated by their friends for the rejection OR They consider that if they can't be su…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 08:59 PM
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This is what should be the case, and should be the goal for men. However, given SMV dynamics and the average man and below being considered "unattractive" by the opposite sex, this doesn't play out. The average male comes from a place of scarcity as a result.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 08:48 PM
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This 100%, close the thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 11:12 AM
4

Excellent breakdown, wasn’t surprised to find the individual dodged 90% of your points and then cherry picked the odd 5 word long sentences to be able to formulate any kind of reply (which are also pathetic anyway).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 02:45 PM
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Further, you’ll have to do a lot better than “yes they do” regarding the idea that the average female goes to a doctor for anti-aging treatment. Most women do not go to a “doctor” (anti aging salesman looking to sell cosmetics despite not being medically necessary). At least, that is the case in the UK. An industry can be worth millions, and this still be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 07:46 PM
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60 minutes is too long? How about legs sessions requiring longer rest periods? How about specialised strength training that require longer rest periods? How about when many trainers do the same 20 minute cardio sessions the average female does in a commercial gym, at the end of the more sophisticated weight training routine? Add on a warm up period and stretching etc. No, your blanket statements based on your personal experience regarding training session length does not represent fact. Again, w…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 07:43 PM
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Why do you keep reducing weight training to “throwing around weights” and “30 mins a day”... we both know strenuous weight training done to build muscle or strength requires a lot more effort than “throwing” shit around, and that the average person does not* spend 30 mins lifting, they spend 60 or longer... meanwhile women go on a cardio machine and do literally 15-30 mins max on average. Finally, why do you keep referencing only marathons? Of course they’ll be overrepresented than men there, be…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 02:40 PM
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Solipsism strikes again.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 12:45 PM
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“Even today (monkey branching from an LTR) is a risky move (for women)”.... yeah, absolutely not. It’s even incentivised.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 12:40 PM
1

Exercise more if you don’t already, you may find the productivity boost is related to that rather than sex itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 12:05 PM
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You are 1000% a troll and I’ve never been so convinced of such a belief before. I can not comprehend the mental gymnastics I’d have to go through to make up such fabrications, to try and distort reality (and definitions, and ignore commonly understood behaviour). If you honestly (truly) believe the average woman is as strong as the average man, and muscle size has no bearing on strength: 1) Why are Males and females separated in sports, and why is there such a fuss about M2F transgenders enterin…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 08:49 PM
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Cross sectional area of a muscle (size) is the most reliable indicator of the strength of a muscle. This is supported by the fact hypertrophy (muscle growth) is the largest driver of strength (see weight classes/ records in strength sports). Furthermore, testosterone & genetic makeup do automatically make an untrained man stronger than an untrained woman, in fact, an untrained man is often times stronger than a natural (no PED’s) & amateur trained woman. Finally, strength =/= combat ability. Thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 08:37 PM
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UK average height is the same as US. Not sure what Europe you’re referring too when the majority of countries are of 5’10” average height or shorter.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 01:21 PM
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Everyone relax, it’ll no doubt be an April Fools Joke, hence the “only applies to men” note at the bottom too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 01:17 PM
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This 100%
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 01:14 PM
0

This has been a great read, thank you. I will say that the West and most developed countries aren’t reproducing enough currently to sustain their population levels, never mind over populate. Simply research China’s population issue. Also the required replacement rate of 2.1 births per woman not being anywhere close to met.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 02:44 PM
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I’ve included all of these words and goalposts into my explanation, what further nonsense are you trying to convince yourself of? Power is not* power without effect. Does a skyscraper have power over you just because if* it were to fall it would kill you when you walk by it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 04:11 PM
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What? Legal protection and the power it provides is far more impactful than physical strength, as I just showed with my comparison. I’d much rather tangible power/ advantage in a court of law than muscular strength that bares no use/ advantage in 2021. What better example of “inequality of outcome” in favour of women do you want?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 03:33 PM
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Good thing for women that violence is illegal then, technology has replaced physical might, and there is unequal treatment towards men and women for the same crime (women consistently get lighter sentences).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 03:27 PM
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Educating people on bad things =/= obsessed about bad things.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 05:33 PM
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Most developed countries aren't reproducing enough to even maintain population levels (2.1 babies per adult female). We do not have an overpopulation problem, we in fact have the opposite if speaking strictly in terms of reproduction levels. We do however have an inequality, wastage and resource efficiency problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 11:50 PM
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Careful with this thinking - most developed countries aren't reproducing enough to even maintain population levels. We do not have an overpopulation problem, we in fact have the opposite if speaking strictly in terms of reproduction levels. We do however have an inequality, wastage and resource efficiency problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 11:49 PM
1

Testosterone is certainly the prime hormone behind men's higher sex drives, but oestradiol is important too (men with low oestrogen and normal testosterone have zero libido too). Please do not consider manipulating these hormones however to adjust your sex drive, it will result in much worse symptoms and issues than being too horny.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 11:46 PM
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Against feminism =/= can’t see women as human. Feminism =/= egalitarianism in many peoples POV.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 12:53 PM
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Some of the replies in this thread blow my mind. Here’s the facts: No, a Dad bod is NOT as attractive as a normal weight/ lean Male. Evolutionarily, fat is stored on females in attractive locations (ass, tits, thighs etc) hence “curves” Hormonally, testosterone is catabolic to fat, and female fat stores are important for pregnancy. For men, most is stored in the stomach in comparison. No, a larger stomach on a Male is never* a positive. Ever. Furthermore, more fat on a Male face = less defined a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/21 04:32 PM
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Men are lonely and very unhappy, women most effected.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 03:53 PM
1

Please see my point earlier regarding APA credibility. The irony you speak of when talking about basing thinking on data and not assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 02:34 PM
1

I'll say it again, solipsism in its finest: You pulled out a psychology study (a social science btw, in which APA recently defined "toxic masculinity" and deemed masculine traits as inherently negative and to be deleted in a person)... in order to completely dodge the context of what was said and engaging. You and me both know what was meant by emotions in this context, i.e. failing to use logic or reason, not necessarily crying or similar. What you've done is just presented an argument over sem…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 02:32 PM
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All? Women being more emotional is factual, there is no "no" to it. As soon as it's explained why emotions can be bad in the context of relationships, you choose to point, sputter and say no to it all? Solipsism in all it's might.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 02:08 AM
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