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Is there certain qualities you look for to help make those determinations?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 06:34 PM
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he ultimately gets sex, isn’t that a win for the average guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 06:29 PM
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This is interesting. You view him as a loser but are you sleeping with him? If so.. why?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 06:11 PM
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A part of my reasoning for asking is people solely judged someone off of looks. Guys: is she fuckable or not? Is she wifey material? Similar things like that. For online dating similar things are immediately gauged of someone is do I see anything with them or do I just see them as a fuck buddy?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 05:19 PM
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The poster above is right on my intentions BUT it seems like there has to be something about the guy that would give off said vibes. Is there certain qualities, physical aspects that would help you make that determination? Yes. While the guy may not be viewed as sexually appealing he has other qualities that put him in the “long term” side.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 05:10 PM
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Absolutely it goes both ways. Not disagreeing with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 04:25 PM
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The issue with this and why many jobs are back to office is: People are not working as they should be. They are taking care of their wives, having sex while getting paid, doing chores, and so much more. It’s fraud.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 03:09 PM
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Yes the guys still do it. Not hard to browse these creators, and see most of these men are 40+. They don’t know the difference. The creators don’t give a fuck either.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 09:24 PM
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They are needed, because they can truly make it passive. Post some sexy photos, make a few sex videos and lack any follower engagement and still make bank. Then their snap stories are always the same: try on hauls, early bedtimes, saying bored, and excited for hair, nail, toe appointments. It’s genius.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 09:19 PM
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It’s a common theme. Many creators just spend all day bitching about being bored. Fly to LA, for photoshoots and thirst traps claiming it’s “free.” You check their profile they available 24/7. Reality is you are talking to someone else. The creator does a few minutes of work, has wild sex with a rich dude all while the average guy is the cash cow. I never spent a dime but it’s always sad when I see guys commenting like simps on their posts(Snapchat, Instagram) like 😍😍😍🔥 just cringe to no creator…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 09:11 PM
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Because it explains what OP is mentioning about the refusal of dating. It’s my experience, my opinion, and thus creates discourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 03:14 PM
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Some people might have other motives. But we’re human. Attraction matters. Height matters. Wealth - over compensates for physical lacking. Wealth creates that provider, something a partner desires. Guys try to date up all the time but realize they cannot date or hookup with those women so they date down. Women have more options than most guys; even the fat ones. So they date up and believe they deserve the most competitive guy. For me I chose to be single because I refuse to be a step dad to som…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 02:18 PM
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Yes because guys are taught the 6/6/6 rule. Six figure, six inches, 6ft. What if I have 2 of the 3? It just doesn’t work.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 06:37 PM
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No, because wealth and success can sometimes overlook a physical shortfall. I have not mentioned to any chick even at the bar how much I made but will mention my house. Organic conversation is huge with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 06:23 PM
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I’m open to both, but considering I’m just average.. I desire at least someone I find semi attractive and can take care of themselves. But right now it’s fat women launching themselves at me causing me to be depressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 03:22 PM
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She called it off over some past experience I had with a different girl I wasn’t slightly over. I confused their names and that was it. This was 6 years ago so I definitely matured and learned a ton of lessons.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 03:19 PM
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I do desire a relationship. It’s my utmost desire. But, I never got to experience a FWB. I would like to. Well… actually I take that back. I did have a FWB and I caught feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 03:17 PM
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It’s desperation. I have a sex drive just as much as anyone else. BUT I refuse to sleep with someone I don’t find attractive. Guys who don’t care will indeed bang an obese, fat lady thus fueling their idea they can get higher tier men. Those of us who keep our standards that believe we can get attractive women are being gate kept. Fair is fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 03:15 PM
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Sure. He made them millionaires. It was a mutual relationship. However, this mindset he laid out is everywhere. The average guy is completely invisible to most females that are decently attractive because they all believe that they want a winner. Tall, handsome, and rich. Seen a post in dating advice sub where women were bitching about how they get the “ick” when average and below men try to approach them in public but also in the same responses why men don’t cold approach anymore. They only wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 02:46 PM
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To the first question are you referring to the average men? Most guys are invisible to most females that are decently attractive. With social media and guys to blame as well. Most people believe they can date up instead of dating within their attractiveness level. It would be to a partner he knows he can’t gets. An attractive partner. She may have red flags that most winners would run from but he’ll ignore them because he knows he has no options or cant do better. For a girl this can be settling…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 02:42 PM
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As an average guy this is almost impossible to have a so called fwb. What a dream. It’s to where I have to try everyday, shoot my shot, or be told to “date on personality.” I’m not ugly by any means, make six figures, have a house but isn’t good enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 02:31 PM
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If he kept the faith while also being rich then good for him. Wealth corrupts to where it’s very hard to resist the urge to want to go out and fuck superficial women. As an average guy who isn’t rich, short but makes six figures I’m am completely invisible. The attractive girls want the winners, the fat girls because of male desperation think I’m the prize and will launch themselves at me it’s gross. To the point where my buddy and I that I trust are looking at taking out multiple SBA loans wort…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 02:28 PM
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Yup. The problem is guys get desperate sexually so fat women, fat liberals, fat single moms become entitled and think they deserve average guy like myself. It inflates standards. I would rather chase, and die trying than settle down and be unsatisfied because I would cheat. Winners who fuck a lot of women want that hard to reach girl who doesn’t go out, who likes to be inside. She likes to read, be herself instead of going out every night and banging dudes. That’s the impossible task for the win…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 02:25 PM
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Yes. You are the prize. Guys who fuck attractive women and are the “winner”: tall, rich sculpted want girls like you but cannot achieve it. Or you have so much fierce competition in “winners” you don’t know what to do. When you the 304s who are clout/status/baby dad farming put out without even knowing a winner their value becomes less. Jackpot for the guy but when he wants consistency, a real relationship he’s going to have competition for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 02:22 PM
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Yes. As an average guy I shoot my shot all the time to no luck. I do occasionally get lucky but it’s wild to me that: These girls will gladly sleep to me but expect money in return. Even if they aren’t escorts. They’ll want to go shopping FIRST before anything and who knows if I get anything in return. Or they are scammers. “Can you send 20$ for gas” no shame even as attractive single moms. It’s extremely difficult for average guys like myself to get laid that it’s harder than making money. Not …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 02:18 PM
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So as much as people hate Andrew Tate he brought up some good points. There are average men everywhere. Who will give a woman the world. Go get her a guy working a regular job. Nope, he’s invisible to the world unless he is a winner. A winner is attractive and rich or just rich. The guys who have options and are winners want a traditional girl. A girl who doesn’t fuck every winner she gets. A girl who likes to stay at home, and enjoy the quiet time she gets. That’s the real prize. Tate brought u…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 02:14 PM
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To be blunt Im attracted to 6+. I like curves, I like skinny women but not fat/obese women. I am more attracted to brunettes with blue/green eyes than I am blonde hair and blue/green eyes. My biggest thing is if I can go to the gym and lose 30lbs and become toned/cut my partner can too. I am tired of this “looking for the guy to help me go to the gym.”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 01:32 AM
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Attraction is subjective. All I ask is that a potential match takes care of herself and can have a conversation. I seem to get messages and conversations from women that can’t do either of the things.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 01:25 AM
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Welcome to what it’s like as being average as a man. When you only get hit on by people you consider unattractive it becomes depressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 01:20 AM
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It’s life. Why I am a firm believer if I am able to become a millionaire regardless of my looks my sheer wealth can afford me attractive women regardless if they dig gold or not. I was researching facial surgeries to reduce/eliminate baby face fat. Definitely going to get consultations for buccal removal and cheek liposuction since my weight loss only helped a smidge.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 05:09 PM
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Absolutely. Being almost 30, I have a good idea of the level of attractiveness I am. If I was attractive i would have way better matches and would have done great on tinder. Instead frankly just fat moms and radical fat liberals. Regardless of how fit I am or my six figure job. Being attractive in general means there is a good probability other women find you attractive too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 04:55 PM
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Don’t worry I tried the minoxidil and it was amazing. It doesn’t help the rounded baby face. My six figure salary doesn’t help either. I get asked “content?” or “send me money for food” or some other bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 04:54 PM
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Some actually do. Cold approaching does work only if you are attractive. Why most men don’t because we are not chads and cold approaches are seen as creeps, weirdos and perverts.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 04:40 PM
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Being in the middle is truly the worst. The ones that I do have a chance with can’t even hit the gym, take care of themselves or single moms who are just fat. I lost 25lbs, have a six pack and good career. It truly means nothing when I am short, and have a baby face.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 04:36 PM
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The point OP is making is it’s a double standard. If a woman finds a guy attractive she will be more open to him regardless of how bad he is socially or how he approaches her. Just check out the Tinder sub. Tons of guys get name and shamed there for using a sexual line while there are some women who post things liking it only because the person that said it to them is attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 04:35 PM
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Out of desperation. Literally. Same thing for fat guys. Goes both ways
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 09:58 PM
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During the consultation they said my buccal fat pads are not noticeable. Where my baby face is my cheek area. So I would need liposuction there of some sort. Any picture I smile my cheeks are puffy and full/round.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 06:12 PM
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Exactly this. Why I am still single lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 05:47 PM
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It’s very hard to do so without major bridging factors: Looks max on desireable qualities: Beard Fit/shredded. Short guys cannot rock a dad bod(you are fat). Tall guys can(not seen as fat). Wealth. The sole bridge creation factor. Money overcomes genetical lacks.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 05:37 PM
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Definitely. Jumping from middle class to upper class is a huge lifestyle change. It’ll definitely be fun, new challenges and hardships and for guy comes with fake guy friends and gold diggers. However once the guy who is able to now bang all the women he wants.. will then want to settle and find a potential wife. Will he struggle? Will that be the new problem is that women see him now for fun/sex/money than long term? Honestly I would take his problems than being average/no options/no sex/trying…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 05:33 PM
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Personally I’m not upset. It’s life I accepted that fact. I’m just bitter that life gave me shitty genetics. Why I am doing things to improve that hence looks max. I consulted buccal removal… turns out it’s because of my baby face. Gives me the “nice guy” vibe. Women do not find nice guys attractive on first glance. Instead consulting cheek fat suction, and even pondered the leg lengthening surgery. I do find it ironic people shame guys who undergo such plastic/cosmetic surgeries while women get…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 05:22 PM
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Exactly. I take care of myself. I forced myself to undergo diet changes, lose weight, do things I don’t want to. The women that want me cant even take care of themselves. Or the single moms same thing, and don’t want anymore kids. OR the worst part is I’ll get matches with some decently attractive chicks, talk to them for a few days then get random text messages “content? :).” No. Just no. I refuse to take girl on as a project while other guys just wait at the finish line.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 05:11 PM
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For sure. Guys are physical creatures. Guys settle because they cannot get better. Being rich sure you get very dense sometimes shallow women who want you for money but guys who are rich or new money get pussy and want sex. It’s a mutual parasitic relationship. However, once you had your fill your wildest kinks, orgys, threesomes that guys dream about then I can definitely see how finding a good girl would be difficult. Dan Bilzerian stated so. He had so much sex, had everything he wanted that l…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 05:05 PM
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Some days I am bitter, not at women but the cards life gave me. It goes back to that women value a protector(height) and someone who can provide(wealth) those two statues define sex and procreation. If you don’t have those two things you are almost filtered out and or it seems like killed off genetically. As far as having good jobs, I make six figures and not one chick gave a fuck about my job. The conversation in online dating never gets to that point. However in person I get a better response …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 04:58 PM
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This. Fat women get to have sex more and are more direct open about what they want at least in online dating because guys are desperate. I been told to “date on personality” not looks. Ouch. I’m not attractive enough to even be allowed to consider someone’s attractiveness? I lost 25lbs, started minoxidil and grew a beard and really got in shape and improved. Since this year I slept with 4 women. While last year I was an incel. It is super hard an average guy to get a date or even date anyone, le…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 04:41 PM
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You get it brother. This is it. I’m in the same boat. I’m learning that I’m not chad enough or super attractive enough to get attractive women. I get those who are ugly/fat. Or the ugly/fat single moms ready for her forever. I have the career, I lost 25lbs(5’7 155, shredding right now) grew a beard with minoxidil and noticed some better matches but not the ones I’m happy about. I’m learning to not give a fuck and just talk to women. If I get rejected I do I rather have a chance to meet an attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 04:31 PM
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I’m not insecure. But there are truths that society doesn’t want to admit. Height matters Wealth/status matter Appearance matters I did the looks maxing as well. I lost 25lbs, started minoxidil and grew a beard and yet still single. This isn’t a woe me just my experience. I’m 5’7, 155lbs and have a career/house(29). Tinder/Bumble were all busts because the matches or likes I would get would be people that just cannot take care of themselves or that with the fact they are a single mom and don’t w…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 04:24 PM
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Honestly being rich is a huge plus over not being rich and not getting women. As plenty of rich guys have said they get women, they get sex and the women get gifts and the lifestyle. Everyone wins. Average guys who aren’t tall, attractive, rich don’t get anything and go months, days, years without getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 04:08 PM
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Women will get sex easily. What’s hard is the guys put into the nice guy category. He’s nice but he isn’t seen as fun, hookup or fwb. He’s my last choice, step dad to my kids from a bad guy or he’s the settle after my fun. It’s a hell to be in it because I am in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 05:04 PM
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I’m going to say women put men into different categories: Nice guys(not talking about the r/niceguy). These are the guys that seem nice, respectful but don’t give off the docuhey, arrogant, over confident vibes. He usually isn’t the most attractive but he has a good job, stable career, his life together but he’s seen as a settle guy and a step dad. He may want some fun or try to hookup but because of being in this category he can’t have a hookup, fwb but instead must be ready to settle. Bad guys…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 05:02 PM
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The best choice I ever made was to delete tinder. As a 5’7 guy, even with thirst traps I was never successful on tinder. For years it was swiping and end up with fat chicks, or fat single moms. Absolutely killed my confidence as a man. Bumble never had much luck either. The life changing part was Facebook dating. Facebook dating allows you to message first ad a guy. Lines like “hey how are you” or “I like your eyes” just don’t work. I have had immense success saying absolutely dumb shit which le…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 04:55 PM
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Yes, but my initial conversation shouldn’t include salary.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 06:57 PM
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I listed my salary as a trial with some good photos chosen by platonic girl friends. No chick gave a shit or a fuck about that. Looks purely matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 06:34 PM
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Cybersecurity soc lead.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 05:21 AM
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Correct or passing 100k. I thought 100k was balling. Then I realized how uncommon it was but the insane taxes you pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 02:44 AM
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It’s because most people who do are tech bros or some sort of manager. Once you get past 100k it becomes very easy to go even higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 02:41 AM
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Yep. I’m 5’6, great career, pension and at 130k. Not one chick gave a fuck. The only way for me to make an impression is material things or confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 02:39 AM
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I think most guys would want that. Myself included. Being indirectly shown despite my success, high salary and fitness that my value because of being short and baby my dating market worth is that of a fat chick or raising another dudes kid and she’s fat. Talk about being in hell. Then you get told maybe date on personality, like I can’t even consider attraction at all. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 02:12 PM
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Of course you felt amazing you experienced what most guys want to experience or have. Fulfilling sex with attractive people and then look to settle down. You are attractive. Congrats. It’s completely different set of feelings and emotions when you can’t obtain these things. This leads to being addicted to porn, masturbation addiction and being lonely. Many of us, can’t obtain this. Unless we are super desperate and decide to sleep with a fat chick. Talk about disgusting. I rather be single and c…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 01:53 PM
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Yes. Girls who have a tinder presence because the sheer desperation of guys will match with anything thus inflating their standards. They may be a 5 but because of tinder they are a 6-7. Just scrolling on Instagram shorts last night, saw several posts of influencer level women with 20k+ followers bitching about why no guy wants her; why no guys approach her, why are all guys ugly. If she’s attractive and on social media she isn’t going for the average dude in a stable career. She’s going for the…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 01:51 PM
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The table scraps for regular dudes who aren’t chads is mostly the baggage scraps or the large fatty scraps.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 01:47 PM
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Yes. As I say, I would rather be broke/poor and handsome/hot than successful, short and baby face. Yet society says my self worth is fat women or fat single moms. Talk about depressing. Yet I’m down a whole 10 pounds(to 169) and hit the gym 5x days a week. It’s life. Why I stopped really trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 01:46 PM
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Yep. Most of the guys are invisible to most women. Thanks to social media, mass influx of guys to girls on dating apps most women’s standards are through the roof where everyone thinks they are a 10 so they indeed chase these types of guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 01:43 PM
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I’m a little confused what the argument is. This happens everywhere. Attraction matters. Having all of the best attraction features, height, beards, jawline, tats and a complimentary fashion it’s game over. There is a such a thing where by hanging around higher attractive people it could work in your favor but most of the time it’s “hey, who’s your friend?” and “can I have their number.” Or on tinder the group photos are usually the ugliest ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 01:40 PM
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I disagree. The men in this sub equate to crimes as “being a bad boy” what they don’t realize is only if they are attractive. There was an experiment where a profile was made on tinder of a Chad that had a crime of beating women. Because he looked like a Chad, and was attractive all of his matches were curious about the crime, saying sexual lines, and were seeing past his offense. Looks truly matter. As for any dude who did that crime. Instant no. The baby dad issue is all to “common” with these…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 01:22 AM
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If so then the only way for a guy who is short, lacks desireable chad features is to get insanely wealthy and have flashy items and cars. Money compensates looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 01:15 AM
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The problem is those average girls standards are now inflated to where they even chase the top echelon of men. Being an average dude is considered being ugly and I desiresble in today’s standard unless you settle for a fat chick.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 01:14 AM
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At least my perspective my goal would be to actually match with attractive matches, yet alone match with someone who isn’t fat. Being short, having a baby face has shown that my quality of women is determined to be the fat/ugly one in the group or the fat single mom. I don’t know which is worse. I’m almost shredded went from 179-180 to 169. Go 5x days a week, eating high protein meals low calories, make six figures and started a business. All of which doesn’t matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 01:13 AM
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Attractive single moms do just fine. They still have their sex appeal, and are still willing to make the same mistakes they made in the past up until late 20s early 30s before they realize they were only used for their looks. Otherwise it’s fat moms, who don’t want more kids and are ready for the “nice guy.”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 09:41 PM
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Hence why we are still single. If I can take care of myself, shred my self at the gym.. a fat chick can go to the gym. Not my job to come in and help motivate her. Uninterested and gross. It really is a shitty world for those who got the bad genes such as being short, baby face, things that can’t change unless extreme surgeries. While those who have got the genes, wait at the finish line for the fat to skinny chick OR don’t even have to worry about such things.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 09:23 PM
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I agree. Being fat is unhealthy period, yet average guys are expected to date and sleep with them because if you are not a Chad with attractive qualities this is all you get. Why I haven’t got laid in 2 years. I refuse to sleep with fat chicks or date them. I feel disgusted when I mass swipe and that’s all I’m viewed as. A fat chicks bf, and crazy enough they message me first, one even said “we’d look cute together,” I rather jump off the Golden Gate Bridge.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 08:59 PM
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Which equates to most guys having to somehow finding a fat chick attractive to sleep with. Or cope terms of being fat such as “thick” or “bbw.” Usually the ones who post their group photos being the ugliest one in the group.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 08:57 PM
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For sure. I will say there are those on both sides of the isles that when drunk will give away the lie. However, some people can continue, have reasonable conversation and continue the lie even when drunk. The problem I found is one slip up and it’s game over.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 04:15 PM
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Maybe face value, but I also know of and have friends that have fake beliefs in public(bars) to hookup, etc but in confidence towards friends have completely opposite beliefs. I’m guilty of it myself. I have completely went along with a lot of a belief because I was attracted to a potential match but I knew our beliefs didn’t mesh.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 04:05 PM
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You also have to figure, it’s super easy to lie. I know people who have certain beliefs(act a way in public) and can say the right things to get laid but in confidence have different beliefs among close circles. As in have a facade in bars, hookup and dip but have your true beliefs revealed only to close friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 04:04 PM
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I would say both. Attractive people have so many options that at that point it doesn’t even matter and so the compatibility aspect regarding politics doesn’t matter or isn’t even a thought in most cases. Yes, those are mid and below care and filter out on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 03:54 PM
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At least in online dating: If you are looking to hookup no one gives a shit what your political beliefs are. Even more of a stretch I never seen any attractive girls profile or hear about anyone caring what your beliefs are. However, for average to below I see some girls profile list their entire liberal ideology and some conservatives too. Now that I think of it, I never hear attractive people really giving a shit about politics when it comes to dating in general especially short term and hooku…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 03:46 PM
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The problem is I do have the unattractive women that do match. If I got buff and lost weight why can’t they? Why are they my only options? Not pity me, but genuinely curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 10:23 PM
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My salary of 130k doesn’t mean shit to women. I’m 5’6, have a baby face. The worst qualities to ever have in a guy. I barely get matches and when I do the mass swipe approach it is people who never set foot in the gym or some crazy girl who posts her political agenda in her bio.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 10:19 PM
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Don’t settle for less king, no matter how desperate you get.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 05:42 PM
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Only if they are attractive which those single moms who still have their looks, ie trashy snow bunnies have no problems attracting chads and repeating the cycle over again. They’ll get banged, have risky sex, get pumped and dump and potentially with another kid then finally say they are ready for a “real man” the nice guy simp.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 05:41 PM
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So I’ll say in the hierarchy of dating: Attractive single moms still have their looks and body. Many guys will still swipe for a chance to sleep with her. That’s it. Or some will try to get her pregnant again and dip. Also as others mentioned many single women and most of the time the non attractive ones will state: Ready for her forever man. Must love my kids before me Doesn’t want more kids, talk about a slap in a face to any male. So you settle but can’t have kids of your own? Why would I wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 05:39 PM
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What’s wrong with that? No one is motivating me to go to the gym, why should I invest into someone who doesn’t take care of themself or can’t go to the gym without someone else pushing them to go? That’s not my responsibility at all. I do find it’s often the average, below average people especially guys that often given this role at least in online dating. Anyone else gets to wait at the finish line, or are so attractive they don’t have to consider this at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 04:24 PM
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Honestly. I have a ton of respect for you that you are active and frequent to the gym. What I do mind is women that do not go to the gym, and are fat. They want a guy to invest into them to help them better themself and motivate them. No thank you. No one is motivating me to go to the gym, why should I motivate and invest into them when they can’t even motivate and take care of themself? It’s a double standard, and they often choose the average, regular dudes to do so because Chad definitely doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 04:15 PM
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Well sir, respectfully you must be attractive. Congrats. Most of the time those types of girls phish followers and views from average guys in hopes to get her attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 05:21 PM
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This. Almost phishing for followers and clout.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 05:20 PM
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Sure, some guys expectations are a bit unrealistic. I don’t ask for much, but I would like my partner to at least hit the gym and not be fat. Doesn’t seem like an option to most guys these days to obtain that either.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 05:18 PM
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TBH, I make 130k a year and not one chick gave a fuck about it. Being short and a baby face, I’m not taken seriously. I listed my six figure salary as if it would help. It doesn’t. Looks matter, and that’s how you get the initial match.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 05:16 PM
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In person, the experiences I have had were positive. I have had attractive women approach me but it is super rare. However, on tinder the messages I get first are usually from fat, single mom type women. Huge turnoff.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 06:16 PM
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That is an estimation by the WHO have had or had contact with. They combine both factors, doesn’t mean all of us have it. I had the blood drawn panels and a swab from an urgent care provider. Negative. While I understand it’s common, not all of us have it nor want it. I feel for those who have contracted it in their childhood. However, contracting it as a result of sexual activity, now you have to disclose it to all your partners and something that isn’t curable. Awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 04:42 PM
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Yet they have truths, and the dating scene reflects it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 04:28 PM
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What you left out is: If you have any sort of attraction towards a female friend, and are friendzone you are wasting your time. Being friends with someone you find attractive, never workouts, you don’t benefit anything, and spending time together is a waste too. I went on 3x dates with a girl I found attractive and cute she said after some thinking I don’t feel an emotional connection I’m sorry. I said I understand, I don’t want to be friends with you nor am I interested in that. I removed and b…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 04:03 PM
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That’s hard. I maybe been on 2-3 dates with truly slim, fit chicks. Now days, it seems like every chick in America is fat and obese. It is very difficult for me to match with a non fat chick.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 03:56 PM
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For sure. I been told I have nice eyes, albeit brown surprisingly. I’m motivated and some days I feel like shit but I still go. The reward is incredible compared the short term unmotivated aspect. Now that’s some real motivation: someone who’s that passionate to get you into the workout.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 03:49 PM
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Reality. It hurts.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 03:48 PM
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Yep. It is exactly this. I’m average. I could get laid but it is exactly what you said. A fat ugly girl. I refuse. If I can go to the gym you can too. I maybe desperate, but I rather use my hand than a fat ugly chick. The saying she ain’t a lady if she ain’t 280 is just pure coping for being desperate. The guilt, the disgust, the shame isn’t worth it. No thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 03:30 PM
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No. 5’6, 170. I lost 5lbs so far, on a cut/shred plan. I hit the gym 5x days a week, on a 1500 high protein calorie diet, make six figures. My negative aspects is my height and baby face. Those are undesirable qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 03:24 PM
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Desperation. Being a guy, full or hormones leads to increased poor judgement of sexual choices. If you aren’t getting laid, and are average you will find coping strategies to see if you can settle for less to get laid. I thought about it, but remembered I have standards and would feel disgusted with myself. I was about to get laid by a fat chick but I felt disgusted I asked her to leave and swore never again. I rather be single, take care of myself with the gym, make more money and do everything…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 03:16 PM
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Ouch. You speak truths. Guys who aren’t tall or bearded and are considered average like myself aren’t afforded or allowed in a way to have preferences. We are degraded all the time and it just gets depressing. I selective swipe on attractive women only, I figured I might as well get lucky than feel bitter and salty over matches who look like they couldn’t even hit the gym in their life. Welp 2 years of this, and nothing. The one okay match I got it turns out she gets cold sores. FML.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 03:11 PM
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Yep. Mass swiping you get a good idea of how you are perceived in the online dating scene. I did this for a week and I was left more bitter and salty than anything else. I got matches but they were with fat women, insanely obese women, or the fat single mom. Of course I unmatch, but some I forget to and guess what I get messaged first. Crazy. I take care of myself. Why can’t fat women? I hit the gym 6x days a week, I make good money it’s just because I am 5’6 and baby face. The worst two aspects…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 03:06 PM
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I disagree. You are inferring guys solely match with women to have sex with them. Sure. But this is only the top few dudes every girl is going after. Have you saw the videos of hoe math? The lower quality girls believing they are a 10, but going after the 8/9/10 level dudes leaving everyone who isn’t that shit out of luck. Attraction matters period. I rather match with someone attractive and then consider the bio or who they are as a person. When people aren’t attracted to each other they resort…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 03:02 PM
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Ouch. The reality. It’s the reality. Average looks, not tall but high paying job. I am that second choice. It definitely hurts. Well actually I can’t even match with the attractive single mom. It’s mostly fat women, or weird belief women who post their beliefs on tinder. I definitely see why guys consider deleting dating apps. Being a second choice or last resort is degrading mentally and physically.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 02:55 PM
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Sure. Women are constantly bitching about wanting a “real man” on social media. Not only that they “wonder” where the nice guys are after 2 kids and ready for a forever step dad. The girls in their 20s joke about/semi serious of wanting a man in finance, 6’5, blue eyes, trust fund. It’s a lose, lose situation for any guy who isn’t attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 02:52 PM
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I disagree. Guys are desperate, that for a match and to get laid and will even settle for a fat woman. The dating order for online matching is as follows: Attractive people>attractive single moms>chubby/fat women>average/ugly guys
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 02:49 PM
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I’ll swipe on the hot single moms too. As long as they are attractive. I rather get a match and be happy, then wonder why the person hasn’t set foot in the gym but is ready for a guy to come in to her life and help her go to the gym. The worst offenders are the group photos and 99% of the time is is the fat chick trying to phish you into matching with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 02:45 PM
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No. I tried this approach and the matches were: Fat single moms. Fat women. Liberal fat women. Trans. You get a good idea real quick your online level of attractiveness and mine isn’t that. So instead of mass swiping I rather swipe on all women I find attractive and hope to get lucky than bitter and disappointed when I do get a match.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 02:42 PM
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It’s life it is what it is. The difference is I don’t act that way in public. Only on this sub which has similar beliefs and guy friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 02:28 PM
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Hahaha. The ones that are liberal and fat post their entire liberal ideology and agenda on tinder. Attractive people don’t do this period.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 12:52 AM
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That’s fine. The difference is I don’t act that way to any woman I talk to. I’m bitter but it’s life. There are ways to change my situation which I am working on.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 12:51 AM
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What’s wrong with having standards? I can bitch as much as I want to. The difference is I actually do something about it. I am working on myself. I know what I need to do and make progress each day. Besides it’s a debate forum. I know my worth, and my success and that I take care of myself. I refuse to be with some fat chick, fat mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 12:05 AM
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Yes my parents met in a church in a small town and had me in their 40s. Needless to say I was raised with the treating women right, like a queen mentality. Oh how I was so young and naive in my early 20s The opposite was true. I learned so much now that I am 28, and the thing I found is self respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 11:48 PM
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Im not red pill but I feel the bitterness. I took the nice guy approach in my early 20s and it landed me nowhere but hurt. I learned now that I am 28 if I am friendzoned, or rejected to block and move on. There is no convincing anyone to like you. I’m bitter at all the dudes who lucked out in the handsome, or whatever “bad boy” vibes they give off that are able to bang the snow bunnies, the attractive chicks and yet be absolute bums and terrible fathers. Once the attractive chick had her fun, ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 11:42 PM
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Honestly, when I see a very attractive women with a dude who’s average looking maybe on the chubbier side I think “what a lucky dude.” What did he do to land that?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 11:29 PM
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I prefer rejection than being ghosted. Being ghosted is more of a slap in the face than just a rejection. Rejections happen but just vanishing and ignoring follow up text is just low. Most women can’t seem to do rejection these days and instead to ghosting/stealth blocking/out right blocking.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 11:26 PM
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Because men are often not afforded to have any. If you aren’t attractive you are told to date on personality and lower standards. So not only do you have that confidence destroyer… you have looks, and height standards that most attractive women prefer. If you lack these you are almost invisible. I told my friends that despite making 130k I would rather be broke and attractive. I would rather be that bum dude who’s banging all the snow bunnies, who’s the “bad boy” than successful, short and baby …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 11:24 PM
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Height matters. Looks matter. The janitor as it short so his value is seen as lesser. The only things that will change his value is extreme body modifications, and being a millionaire. Money overcomes height and facial/body features.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 11:21 PM
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Yep. Sadly. Baby face, and short. The worst genetics one can be given. Started minoxidil, considering flying to Turkey if that doesn’t work and also getting a consultation for buccal fat removal. Guys who go to extreme like this are seen as crazy, extreme or weird. I have listed my salary in hopes it would have offset my profile with some higher attractive women. Nothing. Just fat chicks, or fat moms who want their forever man and no more kids. So disheartening, makes me super bitter. Yet I bust…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 11:18 PM
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“With attractive people.” I refuse to sleep with a fat chick or someone I have no ounce of attraction to just because I am horny. Some guys are super desperate and will.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 11:16 PM
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Bruh. Guys don’t reciprocate the emotions a female provides. Yet alone, being with someone you find attractive and desireable. Guy friends are like “damn bro, it’ll get better though.” Nice. Makes me feel good. Yet, I refuse to be friends with chicks who friendzone because that just ends sour.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 11:14 PM
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This. I done the mass swiping on tinder. You get a good level of your attractiveness on tinder by mass swiping. I listed my salary of 130k, no one gave a shit. Looks solely matters. I’m not saying woe me, just my experience. I’m 5’7, baby face and all my matches were literal fat women who would message first. It was disheartening and made me bitter. I go to the gym, lost 5lbs( aiming for 165) to get shredded yet all I am worth is a fat liberal chick? Yeah I’ll stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 11:12 PM
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Attraction matters. If I can go to the gym and am getting shredded why can’t the fat woman go the gym? No one is motivating me. Why do I have to be her motivation, or the man to come into her life to help her better herself. Being fat is unhealthy, and unattractive period. As far as older women; it’s usually the single moms in their 30s usually ready to find their “forever” man. They have kids, BUT don’t want anymore. What kind of guy would want to raise another dudes kids? That’s a slap in the …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 11:10 PM
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Delusion? Scrolling on social media you will see the type of toxicity and hate I just said about men. The 6’5 use to be a joke but turned to seriousness. Women are chasing the top chads that their standards turned to delusion while the average dude is seen as ugly, or some other flaw. Social media, even just scrolling is filled with onlyfans girls dogging on men and masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 03:28 AM
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I mean the same way can be said of guys. As an average dude it seems like I can’t even have preferences or standards. All my online matches when I decided to mass swipe right, good lord never seen inside of a gym. If I had to go off tinder I would say all the females were obese and that getting a normal, healthy, somewhat skinny girl is unobtainable for me and most guys. Yet I hit the gym 2 hours a day and even macros out my diet. The reality is period: looks matter. Attraction matters. If you a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 03:25 AM
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Majority of us guys feels this way. We were not blessed with genetics of chads. Social media, sports all contributed to the idea that “men” are 6’, bearded, and somehow insanely rich. Which statistically less than 10% of men fulfill. A YouTuber broke down the statistics of 6’5, blue eyes, trustfund, finance to like 20 dudes. Insane odds. This leaves us average dude to try. Women see dudes who try as desperate, not desiresble or some flaw they wouldn’t see in a desiresble guy. If we don’t try, no…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 03:23 AM
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This. Average dudes aren’t afforded to date. Either you get extremely lucky or left with the obese women/moms. I haven’t dated anyone but had some hookups. Unfortunate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 03:19 AM
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Have you considered unless you are a Chad or some handsome stud majority of men are not getting laid unless you settle for less. So if you are a Chad congrats. Sex comes easy, but the majority of guys women don’t consider attractive, invisible and irrelevant. Therefore guys have to resort to lying, or settling for less to get what they want. It’s a full circle. Your last sentence about “personality and intellect” is ironic. Attraction matters. The girl can have a great personality, and be smart …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 05:54 PM
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Fit. Below 200, 170lbs. Benching 225.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 07:59 PM
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This person gets it. All your points hit home. I’m a 28yo, baby face, 5’7 the worst qualities in a guy. Being called cute when you are 28 is just… offensive. Yet: I hit the gym everyday, with 2.4 mile cardio on a loop by my house I own a house Six figure job And yet: Matches: Single moms. Either must love their kid before them, want no more kids or the attractive mom(more rare match, and has sex appeal) but read to settle despite plenty of baggage Fat chicks. Good lord, not hard to hit the gym o…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 06:28 PM
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This. Need to work on my own rizz.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 06:16 PM
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If I tried more in person definitely. Tinder no.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 06:14 PM
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Now this creates the red pill guys. You had a ton of sex, hookups but now ready for a guy to settle down, love you, and not have sex with the potential to know you carried out your wildest fantasy’s but he doesn’t get any sex? Wow. You do you, but as a guy that’s a tough pill to swallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 06:12 PM
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Looks matter. An attractive guy can sleep with whoever regardless of if they want short, fun, long term. For me, being 5’6-7, baby face no beard despite being 28 I have to go to extremes to even try to laid. For example having to lie about what I want, acting like I’m interested. It’s difficult and these matches I could never imagine being in. LTR with. Especially single moms, some are a little cute but they want those LTRs so I have to play the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 06:07 PM
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Yep. I have had more luck in person as far as organic interactions with attractive chicks but it’s difficult to seal the deal being baby face and 5’6-7. Tinder literal scraps, bottom of the barrel. Single moms who want LTR. Fat chicks, fat liberal af chicks or the fat chick who baits matches with group photos. Never ever match with group photo chicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 05:58 PM
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I agree with both points. Being average in looks, huge L with baby face and being 5’6/5’7 my options are: Single moms who want LTR, and some don’t even want more kids. Fat chicks. I workout everyday, 2.4 miles cardio then gym for 40minutes to an hour. If I can go to the gym you can too. But nope This really is bottom of the barrel for me. The desirable qualities I have is my six figure income, I own a house, and I have 6 inches but I refuse to sleep with the above.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 05:56 PM
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Point is,he got what he wanted: Sex
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:55 PM
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Nice, he got to bang though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:51 PM
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Attraction matters. Sex matters. Attractive people get laid, unattractive don’t. What they are mentioning is most guys aren’t having sex, and our options of a partner is one of three categories: Fat chick who’s some liberal. Posts her ideologies in her bio that are so far out there I rather jump off a bridge. Attractive women don’t do this nor give a shit other than LTR. Fat single moms. Single moms, who are decently attractive, not fat but don’t want anymore kids. Talk about a forced vasectomy.…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:42 PM
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Being happy alone? Humans are not designed to be solitary creatures. Depression, loneliness, lack of sex, so many things that are wrong with being alone. Sure I enjoy my weekends going shopping, things I want to do, setting my own schedule sure that’s fun. But then I see couples, everywhere I go in my city I see couples. Very few single people walking alone. Really made me realize how lonely it can be. Guy friends are one thing but nothing like having a partner, girlfriend to do things with. Som…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:37 PM
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The issue is where the women has so much sex, carried out her in her life that vanilla sex becomes boring when she does want to settle down. Her wildest fantasy carried out, then the guy who gets the role of her LTR husband is inexperienced she could cheat or leave because he didn’t have as much sex as her.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:25 PM
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People can try what they want by all means. The problem is that OP is mentioning: the girl had the most wildest sex and a shit ton of it. Whatever her fantasy is, fulfilled. Therefore her perspective of having sex changes to where vanilla sex is boring and not fun or pleasureful leaving her unsatisfied in bed. This means they could cheat, divorce or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:21 PM
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I’m going to say a wild comment. At least me personally looks matter. I’m an average dude, baby face and short. I will wave all red flags to match with/get with someone who is attractive. Crazy, been in jail, whatever doesn’t matter. Tired of fat chicks, fat single moms. I would assume all of America is full of fat people. Yet I go out in public I only see obese old people.. unless it’s that fat ugly girl who is with her hot friends at bars. Average dudes don’t get the privilege to worry about r…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:00 PM
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Pretty much. To the matches I’m not interested in I’ll continue a conversation to keep building up social skills with women. Some are boring, like talking to a brick wall. A literal bro has better convos than one liners walled girls. But to ones I find attractive I’ll put in more effort which is few and far between on dating apps. Needle in a haystack unicorn.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 07:08 PM
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If you knew my job, you would understand. My benefits won’t vanish, and I have a potential pension. The point is i am a provider. Something women do want or see as a good quality. Hahaha I did get a laugh out of land whale. That’s awesome you found someone meeting the exact qualities I described. There’s still hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 06:26 PM
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Yep the gas lighting, and being called cute is the worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 05:47 PM
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I have a baby face and short. The worst possible qualities to have these days. I have pondered the leg lengthening surgery and a beard transplant(I’m 28). I have so much to offer: Great benefits for a family I make 120k+ a year I have a house I like go out and stay indoors Great personality Still single and only matches are some fat chicks, fat single moms. I’d argue hot single mom have better options than an average dude who didn’t get lucky in the looks area.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 05:30 PM
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The chicks who are ready for long term are: Fat chicks Single moms some maybe attractive but ready for a “real man” Very few attractive chicks who are single and ready for long term stay in the dating market long term as all guys will go for them. It truly is a lose lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 08:27 PM
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Unless you are hot this is sheer fantasy. I use to believe the RNG, some encounter maybe she’ll randomly text me. Nah, 28 now and reached a point where tinder isn’t cutting it, going out in my city is a good chance to meet people who aren’t fat, or single moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 08:25 PM
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The worst ones are the friends who subtly imply you are ugly and not good enough for a potential match. Definitely stung. I rather be broke and hot than where I am now.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 08:06 PM
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Damn dude lucky you. I was just saying meaning out of these matches maybe I messaged 10-30 that were not fat, single moms or the occasional hot single mom if I was feeling extra lucky. I got one super like on bumble and it was a girl I would rather drink bleach. But none the less I’ll message girls so I don’t lose my skills. Baggage in my sense is no kids, and not be a work in progress fat chick where it’s like “ I want a someone to motivate me to go the gym” no one is doing that for me. I’m def…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 08:01 PM
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I can get women but not any I am attracted to. Fat, single moms, but yet I go the gym myself everyday. Macro my proteins. I just don’t have the success in tinder(I have 300 matches just none I’m like wow. I want to get to know her). I find I have better luck going out than anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:52 PM
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Add me lol type
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 12:27 AM
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Yep. If I’m not attracted I’m not hooking up.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 10:56 PM
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I rather have it worth it and someone I’m into than having sex with someone I’m not even remotely sexually attracted too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 09:58 PM
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Not worth the post orgasm clarity and regret. Pass. The disgust isn’t worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 09:29 PM
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For sure. I’m not arguing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 09:02 PM
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Feels good there are happy stories and matches out there. Baby face is definitely hell, despite the coping compliments hey you’ll look younger when others are older. Cool story bro. I can’t grow a bear. It’s all patchy, and my mustache isn’t even full just few long hairs. Honestly thought about a hair transplant.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 08:46 PM
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Damn dude. Left me speechless. Congrats on the successful marriage. This sub definitely triggers me a lot, but seeing good discussion and people being open to some salt, gripes feels good. Having my salary is nice, but I want to enjoy it with someone. Sure I want to have encounters with attractive people but sometimes I truly want a unicorn a mixture of both world where we do things together and she’s attractive and career minded.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 08:42 PM
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I have average looks, but my salary and success put me into the attractive category. But even listing salary etc, isn’t good enough. None of the matches gave a fuck because I don’t have the physical level of attractiveness. I wouldn’t even call my standards delusional. Don’t be fat, hit the gym, and don’t be a single mom. I realize I won’t get a perfect snow bunny or whatever but I had a great fwb that I ruined over feelings with a 6/7.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 08:31 PM
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Honestly if being rich enhances an average dude to fulfill his desire of being with a hot chick or sleeping with attractive people so bet it. I rather have that happen then be a betabux or some single mom who’s ready to settle down and wants no more kids. Talk about a slap in the face to make genetics. Hot single moms still have a sex appeal and most guys will still match, do some extended truths, and some manipulation to bang and go. Even if they are hot mom’s they offer nothing of value to the…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 08:26 PM
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Yep. I rather be broke and hot than short, baby face and six figure salary and still single. It’s hell. Women, do enhance life, doing it alone blows. Sex is great too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 08:21 PM
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I always laugh when girls say please be funny especially on tinder and they are attractive. Everyone’s humors different, and trying to appeal to what someone finds funny is almost like an average dude trying to get a unicorn.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 08:20 PM
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Yep I’m invisible. 5’6 5’7 baby face. The worst qualities. Short and baby face that struggles to have facial hair. It’s no wonder why guys go to extremes to be more attractive. Paying to get the leg extension surgery, hair transplants(I thought about) just to get a better chance. I’m in tech, I exaggerated my title to appeal to a girl like cybersecurity engineering etc, even listed my salary of 120k+. No matches. No girl gave a fuck about my salary, instead these are the less attractive bunch th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 08:19 PM
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This. Attractive people have sex and get to carry out all desires and fantasies while average dudes like myself don’t. Then when you do somehow find a unicorn or someone who’s moderately attractive even when both are in the mood are disappointed or bored because vanilla sex ain’t it anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 08:14 PM
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That, or organically go out in my city and meet people: I had way more success with girls in person. But my closing is weak. I realized tinder is the way for me, but rather in person. Definitely had encounters with some attractive girls and got contact details without even expecting anything. Online I’ll take my chances for a unicorn or passport bro tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 07:56 PM
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Attractive people have sex. Those who are average and below according to hoe match are invisible and aren’t afforded such privileges. Then the attractive chicks have a ton of sex, get pregnant then turn into single moms. Ready for the love of their life. Us average dudes would still sleep with someone like that but she has no dating appeal. I rather be single than the guy to settle down for or second choice. It’s a continuous cycle.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 07:50 PM
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Yep, mass swipe and filter out. Hope to get lucky. Most guys aren’t attractive to land consistent matches. I literally swipe on looks, and sex appeal as I think other guys do too. I rather selective swipe than mass swipe and be disappointed when I get a fat chick or a fat single mom. If I can hit the gym, you can too. I rather get that selective swipe match and be surprised than bitter and salty with matches I know I won’t be happy with.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 07:48 PM
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Yep this is it. The reality is average dudes are told to settle for less, settle down. We can’t have fun; want to experience hook ups and what not. Can’t. Even with stating my intentions, most of the matches( I don’t even look at what they want despite state don’t know yet or short term fun) are matches that all want long term. These usually fat moms, fat chicks, or attractive moms that are ready for their dude to settle for less. She still has a sex appeal but she brings nothing to the relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 07:40 PM
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Yep desperation for sex. It’s hilarious how red pill guys say to quit masturbation, but it’s either sleep with fat people to quench it and after orgasm be disgusted and think wtf or look at some porn and quench it. Again rather be single than settle for fat or fat moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 06:22 PM
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Yep. The truth. Average looks, short 5’6-5’7, baby face definitely made me realize a lot about things. Looks, height matters. I thought listing my income of 120k matters and the 666 rule. I have two of the 666 but it doesn’t matter if I can’t get to the inch part lol. My options remain fat single chicks who are either down for fun, nope no matter how desperate I am. I go to the gym, you can too. Or some radically liberal fat chick who posts their liberal ideology on tinder. Yes this exists and n…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 05:46 PM
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I’d rather be single and complain than to sleep with a 3/10, who’s most likely fat or a fat single mom. Life isn’t fair but it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 05:40 PM
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The last point is true. Looks wise. Average. Baby face and short the downfall. However, possession wise and success I have it. I have the six figure income, I have the house in a high income area I afforded myself but finding someone who isn’t: Fat(if I had to go off tinder I would think every girl is fat) and those who aren’t fat are all attractive or taken. Single moms. No thank you. I squandered my 20s(28) now and decided to go out more. I had more encounters with decently attractive chicks t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 05:38 PM
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Ironically yes. But looks, height still matter. Women will look past occupation, and status purely based on attractive qualities. Hence why Chad who is a bum gets to bang all the snow bunnies and make single moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:21 PM
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The truth. I was raised exactly this way. Sadly, when I moved to a big city by self for my career I realized: I am short, baby face and attraction matters to women. There is no oh if I am nice she will be interested. Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:16 PM
1

True. Valid points. I agree about the ugly women having kids having to put out more and the guy who knocked them up was probaly desperate for sex. Besides hot moms still have the sex appeal. Sure their value for long term is gone but they are now seen as short term, play it to sleep with her and dip. It’s bad guys do it, and I think single moms know the game but hey it is what it is. So they post ready for a nice guy, or real man and post wanting long term relationships. I would say hot single m…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 06:33 PM
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Toxic masculinity for not wanting to raise another man’s kid? What. How. As a male, we have natural instincts to want to have sex, and have kids. Why would I as a male want to step into a single moms life who doesn’t want more kids, and raise another dudes kid. That’s literally a slap in the face to me as a guy. Denying a man a right to have kids, while assuming he’ll be your kids step daddy is plain wrong. Guys who settle for this are just desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 06:28 PM
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This. It’s ironically the Chad bums that bang the hot chicks, make them single moms and dips. Sure guys will still swipe with the sole intention of banging but that’s it. Outside of looks, your points hit home. She brings nothing to the table, and wouldn’t compliment anything I bring to the table. Then she goes on social media saying why can’t I find a real man, a good guy ready to settle down who loves me and my kids: * but doesn’t want more kids of her own.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 06:23 PM
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This dude gets it. From a male perspective, raising another dudes kid who was merely in it for sex is a slap in the male to you as a man, your genetics especially if she doesn’t want more kids and ready to settle down. It’s crazy how many guys out of desperation would do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 06:19 PM
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The bums are usually the ones banging the hot snow bunnies that become moms. So lucky them I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 06:17 PM
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Out of all the single moms on tinder I have seen, I only seen a few actual widows. The % of single moms where this is true is almost non existent even the divorced women with kids. Now if your dating pool is in the 30s sure, but otherwise kids born out of wedlock.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 06:16 PM
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It definitely seems that way with how they present their online profiles. Usually the I don’t want more kids, ready to find a real man, must love my kid before me, ready to finally settle down for love type of single moms. This is the worst type. No matter how desperate a guy can be this isn’t the settle for less type. Never ever. Denying everything about yourself as a man especially wanting to create life. There are some truths to those statements, hence a stereotype. Not all are like it but gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 06:14 PM
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That’s the one thing I can’t get over myself. It is literally denying a male his natural instincts for creation. I desire children of my own, but having to raise someone else’s offspring as my own, while denying me one for us. No thank you. Not to mention they usually are ready to find a “real man” or a “long lasting relationship” ready to finally settle down.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 06:09 PM
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This. It’s hypocritical. Why won’t a real man step up and love me and my kids and often times they put on their tinder must love my kid before me. Wtf. The attractive single moms definitely have similar success regardless of the kid or not. Although it’s rare that they want a fwb, hookup.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 05:42 PM
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Some are definitely very attractive and would be fun for casual sex but outside of that, yeah no. Not raising another dudes kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 05:39 PM
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This. I often swiped based on attraction, and that includes single moms. They often have the dad still in their life, don’t want more kids(talk about vasectomy in my 20s lol), and why would I want to care for someone else fuck trophy? I want my own. They really have saturated tinder. Between single moms, fat chicks, and divorced women it really is a losing battle for non Chad like dudes like myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 05:37 PM
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So my encounters with single moms: Being late 20s and just average(short, baby face) my options are slimmer and slimmer so that leaves me single moms or divorce women. Single moms: Must accept their kid before I accept them. Do not want more kids. Talk about a slap in the face, might as well schedule my vasectomy. Baby daddy issues, especially the more attractive ones. Usually paint the picture as the guy is the bad one. Just my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 05:35 PM
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So it’s a bit of a double standard. There are two rules of tinder be attractive, and don’t fall into the not attractive category. If you do fall into the attractive category then congrats. You can use tinder for fun, mess around or even try to date. If you don’t fall into the attractive category, then well your options are what I mentioned above. I would also wager, that those obese and single moms have more luck with matches than guys do since guys can get desperate and completely through out t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 02:04 PM
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Yep this is right. Tinder is candy shopping for females but for males you have to be 6/6/6 to get any sort of decent reasonable matches. From online dating I would of thought every single chick is fat, obese or has kids and doesn’t want more. Quite depressing. Now being in a city with a party college, almost all of the girls are attractive, have some desireable qualities and physical features. Going to the more professional bars 20-30s it seems to he more balanced. Genetics, heights, income, fac…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 01:10 AM
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Damn. Speechless again. Humble doesn’t even think internally about my salary nor bothered to look into the true statistics about what I make or not is special. I get railed in taxes though, I think I paid somewhere along the lines of 30k last year in taxes or more. Not only that I don’t really treat myself. I try to invest as much of a full or check in the stock market and leave enough for bills. I think my biggest purchase was Electric Forest tickets or something like that. The rest is mortgage…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 05:27 PM
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This. As you said it created a lot of mindless drones. The guys who preach it, never put the basic concepts into practice anyways. No gym routine, no career improvements or business or investments for money and no self reflection on what I can do to improve myself. I do think the modern red pill guys, Myron and Andrew Tate spoke some truths and it’s always entertaining to see some delusions brought to light but in the end as you agreed and I said above those 3 things matter. Just happens those r…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 05:01 PM
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Honestly. You left me speechless. I have never been speechless on Reddit before. Thank you so much for the perspective. You brought up a lot of good points. I try to remain humble, especially salary wise. Instead have more bitter feelings about the baby face and height. Ironically as I mentioned and you stated it’s normal for those encounters in public, it’s just I struggle with approaching and Reddit and the tinders made me believe only attractive people can cold approach. However, conversation…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 04:41 PM
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Winning financially but refusing to settle for less. Sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 04:21 PM
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Welp. The issue here is attractive women have sex. Carry out the most fetishes, desires, fantasy’s they can ever want with a dude who is also attractive. Now she had her fun. She’s ready to settle down. It could be with the guy she’s in love with or usually if it is an attractive guy he isn’t ready to settle down. He gets all the sex, and women he wants so we create this issue that has been discussed everywhere on Reddit. He plays games, he doesn’t want anything serious, he isn’t nice blah blah …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 04:19 PM
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I like a desirable, needy girl. Fits my love language or reassurance, and touch. Sure there are limits to being needy. It was incredible when I had a fwb who was that. She was a pleaser, come over when I got off work at midnight she was amazing but I was salty over a bitter hookup and ruined it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 04:12 PM
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Bro, there is only so much a guy can do. I’m short, baby face, I hit the gym 5 days a week and make over six figures, own a house with no help, point is I lack in the physical and height department.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 04:07 PM
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I’ll say some an average guy perspective. In short 5’7, baby face and now 28. My matches have been notbing but single moms, fat women; and the occasional divorcee. Looks purely matter. Height matters. Confidence matters. I even listed my salary of 120k on my tinder profile, and never got much matches out of it. I have had great encounters in person with some very attractive girls. Got some numbers and snaps but it always fizzled out. On tinder I might as well delete it. Attractive people sleep w…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 03:40 PM
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You forgot to mention how good they got fucked or his dick was so good. Attractive women have a ton of sex, and often find when they settle of their fun years usually older they aren’t satisfied. The eventual relationship guy prob isn’t experienced in bed. So she leaves, cheats or divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 03:33 PM
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It’s unfortunately true. Red pill carry truths but a lot of it to the extreme l. Looks matter, height matters, money matters. If you aren’t an attractive Chad that women want, you aren’t having sex. Unless out of sheer desperation you bang a fat chick, single mom multiple kids(some are hot, but I find they still want the Chad or dude with felonies) or a divorced women and she’s usually fat too. Fuck. Can’t win.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 03:32 PM
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Redpill while some radical ideas exist it does carry truths. Height matters. Period. Taller guys regardless of looks are afforded more matches than short guys. Looks matter. The attractive people have sex. Regular people don’t and aren’t given the options to have any until they settle for less. Money matters. Money can overlook a lot of shortfalls in genetics for a guy. Women like money.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 03:30 PM
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It’s a never ending cycle. I seen it all play out. I don’t know the answer, but I know at least in this modern dating era looks matter. Attractive people can carry out all their desires then once they had their fun, it’s like I can finally settle down. This is a bit of a red flag since, she may indeed settle for someone who wasn’t the hottest dude and he disappointed. Especially if he didn’t have as much sex as her and he is inexperienced. But to your response, I bet. Being lied to sucks. I hate…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 03:27 PM
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So it really comes down to: Attractive people have options and the most sex they can ever desire. Regular people, shorter guys, aren’t afforded casual sex. Unless you are desperate and would sleep with fat chicks, fat single moms, or somehow get lucky and get an attractive single mom looking for fun. So attractive people can literally carry out their desires, sexual fantasies, while the regular people can’t. It’s human nature. Why guys tend to date younger, in hopes of being able to get lucky wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 03:14 PM
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Welp. If you aren’t the most attractive guy in the dating pool, or have the finest of qualities, such guys aren’t afforded casual sex and dating seems to demand they settle for less. This means: Obese women who can’t even hit the gym. Not to mention her insufferable political agenda she posts on her profiles. Attractive women don’t do this shit. Single moms. Multiple kids, don’t want any more. Might as well get a vasectomy if you settle for that. Slap in the face to male genetics. Divorced women…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 03:10 PM
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It really comes down to a red pill idea: The older you get as a male the more limited your dating pool become. Your options as a male in his late 20s and early 30s are: Single moms, who want no more kids and are usually fat. Obese women, most of these I find are insanely political and post their beliefs all over their dating profiles Divorced women with husband issues. Red flag. I’m not risking my life over a domestic. Which this means: To date younger Hit the gym, get your shit together and hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 02:51 PM
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Yep this is it. If you aren’t attractive or had much success in dating usually to a short fall of height and looks your options are divorced women, single moms with multiple kids who’s ready to settle down and no more kids, or obese women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 02:47 PM
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I’ll add in… the dating pool for older guys gets to be very tough in late 20s early 30s. Your options will be: Single mom with kids, who most likely doesn’t want more kids. Talk about a slap in the face to male genetics. Divorced women. Obese women. Unless you are super attractive that’s really the only options you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 02:44 PM
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Interesting, I took it more on the personal approach when they have said that. I find if they say that, they often have higher expectations for sex and if they aren’t satisfied they dip. Those who do get to have all of their fantasies, physical desires fulfilled will even find casual sex boring. Been told, missionary is boring, doggy is boring, casual sex is boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 08:05 PM
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I wish I had this problem. No whales and cows here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 08:03 PM
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Damn that was a fast heat seeker. I’d already ejected before take off.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 08:00 PM
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I find this sad but the true. The good in bed part really just irks me. Some women truly can live out their fantasies sexually and physically while most men can’t. It is almost like those who us who don’t have those privileges are seen as lesser.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 07:53 PM
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Technology or medical then. So few of six figure earners even make more than 200k. More than 200k becomes 1% territory. Even working and living in a young upcoming city, I never met a girl who made insane money like that or came from a trust fund background. I make 120k and career wise I should be pulling equivalent level of women but can’t. Genetics factor in as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 07:49 PM
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Damn. I’m surprised. No salary requirements. This didn’t meet the meme going around I want a guy in finance: 6’5 Trust fund Blue eyes
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 07:39 PM
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I’m generally curious. You are indeed trying to date in the top 1%. It is okay to have standards, vast majority of guys can’t even swing 70k. It truly sucks in the dating world. I make 120k, have a pension, federal benefits, college degree and hit the gym everyday. Height matters and my biggest con is 5’7. I do have empathy with what you mentioned and also feel I’m getting older and might as well get a pet because my standards aren’t going to be met.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 07:34 PM
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Hi there. 5’7 120k a year House owner Gym everyday 28 Damn. I wish there were more women like you out there. Very reasonable expectations and down to earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 07:31 PM
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Yeah I’m not trying to date a single mom and somehow love another dudes fuck trophy, nor date a divorced girl with husband issues. Not trying to get into a domestic or risk my life. No thanks. Those are the options of late 20s/early 30s dudes who didn’t luck out in the genetic department.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 07:26 PM
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Hardest part is I have all the career, educational, salary income in theory to pull someone like this but I can’t. Looks truly do matter and so does height. I’m 5’7, 120k salary, bachelors, house owner, great benefits yet my baby face and height of 5’7 to blame. Being 28 I’m finding most of my options are fat women, or single moms who don’t want more kids. The second choice is becoming more and more ingrained in me. Depressing. I feel like I have to be dating for long term but I don’t want to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 07:24 PM
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It’s both for me. Never had a LTR, had a few hookups and a FWB but past experiences of a hookup that turned into feelings ruined that one. Now I’m 28, with social skills, some casual going out on date experience but never dated anyone. I’m not opposed to dating older, but a lingering feeling is that I am indeed the second choice, the guy women want after fulfilling all of her sexual fantasies with a Chad. Ready to settle down, either with a kid or not, or a divorced women with husband issues. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 07:20 PM
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I answered your question with an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 06:55 PM
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Being picky isn’t afforded to those men who are not attractive. Having basic standards such as not an amateur sex worker, not fat, and single mom aren’t given to most men. I would actually cross out the amateur sex worker off as well. They definitely aren’t matching with guys who aren’t considered attractive, instead they match to sell content. So rather men are left with obese women and single moms wanting her forever, and doesn’t want anymore kids and must love her kid before her.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 06:52 PM
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I’m talking the group photos, that type of fat girl. Never ever swipe on group photos. Bait and switch.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 06:33 PM
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This. Honestly when I go out shopping or in public I usually don’t notice too many obese women. However, once I step foot into dating apps, it seems they are very numerous and have more success matching with guys who are desperate. Yet, those women who are not fat, single moms and are moderately attractive have the privilege of shopping in the fruit section of a grocery store or picking out the best piece of meat. They are given the ability to pick the man of their dream such as the joke going a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 06:22 PM
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The latter half is true. You are attractive or you are not. Sure you can do the scale of 1-10 etc for male and female but just doesn’t work. Social media, porn, tinder and any social media can create delusions in a guy about the type of match or dream of hook up they want but it isn’t real. Also, as you said people who get marches aren’t attracted to them. This is me. I rather be single, than settle for someone who can’t take care of themselves, trying to push their political beliefs in their pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:39 PM
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Damn dude. The cold hard truth. As a dude who experienced the later half…. You are right. If a woman doesn’t find you attractive leave. There is no oh maybe she will find me attractive later if I am her friend. Nope she’ll use and abuse you and openly talk about sleeping with other dudes. If you get rejected don’t hang around. Don’t waste your time. I wish I knew this in my early 20s instead of mid to late now.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:34 PM
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Sad reality is… I’m 28 and never dated anyone. The match pool is single moms who don’t want more kids might as well get a vasectomy and slap my make genetics in the face or divorced women. Awful. I see why older guys date younger. The single moms that are attractive are definitely looking for their Prince Charming, the best candy in the candy shop but that best candy has choices. I’m not that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:30 PM
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I believe this. I selective swipe, not that I think I’m bad looking or ugly I think I’m average. Not blessed heights or boney chin or model looks and my matches on tinder I would of thought that: Everyone has kids and doesn’t want more Never seen the gym Or pushing their radical beliefs. Simply put attractive chicks don’t do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:23 PM
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This. Yes there are levels of attraction especially on dating apps. Hinge is definitely known to group your profile based on algorithms and level of attraction. For my tinder I have over 200+ matches… but some of them I don’t remember swiping on, or they never seen the inside of the gym, a girl with kids that doesn’t want more kids, or someone trying to push their political beliefs in their bio. No thanks. I rather selective swipe. Women on dating apps are way more successful because of desperat…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:18 PM
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Insane right? Goes against all norms of harassment. If it is welcomed and you are attractive you can say the most sexual stuff alive. But anyone not attractive seen as a creep, sex freak, pervert or crazy. The double standard regardless of pill type is wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:14 PM
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I use to believe the red pill statement about salary. This is untrue. Unless you are a millionaire or something out of all the attractive girls I have talked to or even messaged… not one asked my salary nor cared. Granted I am IT but no one cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:08 PM
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It’s hypocrisy at its finest. It really is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 12:34 AM
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I agree focusing on yourself is important but height really matters. Height is seen as not taken seriously, not a protector getting into red pill shit. I dress well, I do MMA, I have a house, I make 120k+ a year, I invest in the market and have a potential pension. I work out 5 days a week with cardio and weight training. My worth shouldn’t be defined by my salary and what I have but to not feel invisible I almost feel like I have to subtlety insert that into conversations to draw attraction. Ph…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 07:03 PM
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This. You are right on. If you don’t meet or blessed with the genetics of height, and looks “how” you are suppose to act is differently: Told to lower standards Settle for less Single moms or divorced women with baby daddy/husband issues Trying to date is a red flag Not be genuine or actually friendly(not r/nice guy of course). It’s just insane and why I given up. I rather be single than conform and settle for less. I am able to talk to women and have talked to very attractive ones at the bar bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 06:37 PM
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If you are average looks, short or average height you are invisible on dating apps. Unless you want to hookup, date a fat chick, some radical liberal and must conform to her beliefs or date a single mom with multiple kids and don’t want any or got the tubes tied or a divorced mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 06:32 PM
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This. I like my high end classy bars but I’m just an average dude. I feel invisible. Those women at the high end bar are indeed waiting for their Prince Charming, 6’+ dude, who’s a bad boy, not ready to settle, breaks hearts and repeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 06:29 PM
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You forgot to mention that the red pill saying is true even browsing Instagram of gym models, attractive chicks. They’ll make jokes about cold approaching but it’s okay if they are hot. Looks matter. If you arnt attractive you are seen as creepy, desperate or a pervert. Also prefer if you are 6’2.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 06:23 PM
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This. The dynamics are both ways, and as a single dude who relied on dating apps I find myself lacking organic connections. I’m in a booming city, with a good college scene but I far grown past the college scene. The professional, younger person bar scene is nice but as you were saying it is a sausage fest. Where genetics play a factor. At these scenes, height, first impressions matter. As someone below 6ft, baby face I feel invisible.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 06:20 PM
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Update: Wow thank you everyone for the responses! Very kind and so happy to know I’m not the only one who been in this similar situation. So she didnt get back to my place to get her car until 1300, she had to pay for the Uber which was 50$ and my buddy did not bring her back and he denied sleeping with her. We ended up texting a bit and it seems like the feelings are not mutual. She stated she can fuck who she wants and she’s a grown ass women. She mentioned that she doesn’t like someone keepin…
/r/seduction14/05/22 09:10 PM
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That’s funny. Thank you for the laugh kind sir.
/r/seduction14/05/22 03:46 PM
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It’s an apartment complex, but I am the sole person she knows at the complex.
/r/seduction14/05/22 03:22 PM
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Is that legal to do?
/r/seduction14/05/22 03:05 PM
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Wow. I didn’t expect the responses and the support. Thank you kind strangers. As an update her car is still at my place and she has not initiated any contact.
/r/seduction14/05/22 02:45 PM
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He also violated the bro code. I don’t care who he fucks, but when I am trying to create a relationship there is a fine line.
/r/seduction14/05/22 12:23 PM
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