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Women don't want skeevy entitled orbiters as 'friends'. It's wildly uncomfortable and dangerous having men like that around. Do some women recognize a position of power and take advantage? Yeah ofc. They are gross and don't see men as equals, and feel entitled to their attention and benefits. Do some women lack self esteem and also let themselves get taken advantage of by abusers too? Yeah ofc. People pleasing is a huge problem and a dangerous disadvantage to some women. I think women focus a lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 08:07 PM
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I agree that men are socialized to put women first to a degree, unfairly reinforcing the ideas that they must perform the harder labour and the grosser chores. Also that they not treat girls as roughly as they treat other boys. It's a huge leap to go from that to diagnosis that men are taught to be masochists that can't accept pleasure or prioritize themselves. A huge amount of their socialization after that is about competition, winning, being the best, cooler, faster, braver, and stronger than…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:49 PM
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Good
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 08:45 PM
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That reason is explained, you (singular) just don't give a fuck about women's discomfort for whatever reason, thanks for such a 'great thing'
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 07:39 AM
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It proves that it's a bad idea no matter what you look like because it's off-putting and shallow. Men would love to be objectified, women would love to be desired for their achievements, both sides are disappointed
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 02:21 AM
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Hello, so you're just s*** talking cool
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 11:56 PM
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Yikes, if this is your experience with dating You have my heartfelt sympathy. My advice would be to leave that interaction immediately, and move on. That person doesn't deserve your company And there are plenty of women who won't treat you that way
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 11:32 PM
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She may be turned off by it but its mostly because of who is saying it. An attractive man may still be successful in spite of this tactlessness, not because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 10:51 PM
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In English "you" is both singular and plural, it depends on the context. I've tried to explain to you why it is an instant turn off, or specifically, why you are wrong in your beliefs about why it is an instant turn off. If you don't believe me, that's fine ofc. To restate it as clearly as I can: we already know you are approaching because you are attracted, making no effort to learn anything about us and just stating what physical aspect you are attracted to makes us feel like your interest is …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 10:28 PM
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"You" as in men, not "you" as an individual, My apologies if that sounded like a personal attack Other than that you obviously have no interest in budging on your beliefs so I'll leave you to it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 10:04 PM
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Yes it is, men complimenting is seen as an issue because most men aren't found that attractive. Incorrect. That may be a reason a woman doesn't want you to approach her in the first place though, so the technique hardly matters Women want to physically desired anyway which is why they make themselves up. This is mostly done to attract male attention Yes they want to be desired, and no, it's not just for attention but also because looking like a baddie just feels good, so does taking care of your…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 09:41 PM
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Usually someone else says "this is the real answer as a show of agreement 😂 we know you agree with your own post. And no. This is not what women mean when we say we don't value being complimented on our looks on approach. We have nothing in common, no connection, no shared interest or reason to engage with you, and are basically told "im talking to you because looking at you made me want to fuck you. Respond." That's an exaggeration ofc, but that's the subtext, with the burden of then doing the …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 08:31 PM
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Could you imagine what the world would be like if some MEN also like asshole women???!? Can't imagine. Good thing OP has all the facts
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 06:56 PM
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I agree they hate themselves, unfortunately they can also just be beautiful. As infuriating as that is
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 06:54 PM
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There is no blue pill points. Blue pill is just making fun of red pill
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 06:29 PM
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But they tend to be hot, seeing as they have benefited from misogyny enough to adopt it. And men tend to only care about what hot women think
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 06:27 PM
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Come on, You are clearly just masturbating your own bias because you think red pill has science behind it and blue pill doesn't So you framed this poorly constructed question to feel Superior when people agree that having some facts is more correct than having no facts. The problem is thinking you are group a. When your post clearly puts you in group B
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 06:26 PM
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Neither is in the right, you clarify they both push bullshit. What is the point of this thought experiment because it is very pointless. Even if you asked who is 'more correct' you literally just say who is more correct in the premise. This is a waste of time, more like a reading comprehension test
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 06:20 PM
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Misogynistic men are rewarded by misogynistic women as well
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 06:18 PM
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I saw this anime too
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 06:17 PM
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Exactly, women attracted to misogyny tend to score misogynists. The hotter a woman is, the more likely she is to be a misogynist since she's benefitted from misogyny her entire life. Otherwise reasonable men get super pissy when they see hot women being misogynists out of entitlement, feeling punished for acting egalitarian.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 06:17 PM
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Lol. Men can jerk off plenty, it's men pushing NNN to try and develop some self control. And it's also men throwing cash at women for jerking off online
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 03:27 PM
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Someone one reaaally needs therapy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 03:24 PM
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If more men thought like her the numbers would be closer too
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 11:09 PM
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You didn't answer any of my questions. Pessimistically, I think this entire post is just pointlessly gendered to imply men are more compassionate than women, While at the same time insisting women can't possibly even be able to have basic human empathy. I think you may be trolling
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 11:00 PM
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Well, is your gripe with women on this subreddit? All women in the world? Only women who want compassion in return? Do you think women need to be compassionate to men, but men don't have to be compassionate in return? Is 'not giving an F' acceptable so long as you're not wishing ill upon them?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 10:09 PM
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With that out of the way what do you actually specifically want from women? You say we can't understand you but to give you "acknowledgment, respect, and practical care." So... Shit sucks bro. Keep your chin up. You deserve good things. Make some female friends if you need to hear that more.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 09:35 PM
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I don't need to experience someone else's experience in order to have empathy with them. If that were the case no one could possibly have empathy for anyone else as internal states are never exactly the same with the same history, weight, and framework as each other. That's ridiculous. I can empathize with loneliness, with hurt, with shame, with fear, and I can be compassionate at the same time to the same person You don't understand empathy
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 09:09 PM
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I'm noticing a huge uptick in the amount of these profiles with blocked history. Imo it drops good-faith to ground level when I see it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 09:02 PM
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And yet I would have in this case, since I know he wanted marriage very quickly but I wasn't ready yet and told him so. He anticipated that I might propose when I'm ready instead of telling him I was ready and giving him the chance
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 02:56 PM
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Oh I'm well aware that there are immoral shit bags out there pathetic and desperate enough to rape because no one would ever willingly be in the same room alone with them. Thanks for the reminder. Ill think about you the next time I get creeped out by a stranger
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 12:08 AM
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Now I don't feel so bad at the prospect of men getting bred out. Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 11:56 PM
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My boyfriend has insisted that when the time comes I'm not allowed to be the one proposing. I'm the one that asked him out first, planned the first date myself, and kissed him first. He wants some initiative too lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 11:47 PM
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'online' is not the same as 'tinder' When I used a dating app I was on it for a grand total of three weeks (three first dates total) before settling down with my current partner. It just doesn't take very long to find a decent guy when your 'competition' is OF models and women dating for entertainment
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 08:31 PM
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Because a small percentage of women are on apps at all and when they are there is a much higher percentage of women who are looking for casual intimacy, and those obsessed with social media and attention in the first place. Not to mention the significant proportion that are there looking for clients and subscribers. Dating apps are also so skewed in number of women vs number of men that of course men with desirable traits are going to have a stark advantage for attention. I think it's hilarious …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 03:44 PM
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Women 'make it complicated' by not all liking the exact same traits the exact same ways. I.e. being individuals Focus on finding the right fit for you instead of being the right fit for every possible match and you'll be much happier
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 07:18 AM
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That's unjust and must be a traumatizing experience. The Justice system is crappy more often than it's not. I still don't think that that is an endorsement of women abusing men. It is an advantage granted to women based on sociological statistics unfairly. It is still illegal for a woman to assault a man
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 08:56 PM
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This is a very well structured argument. I already agreed with the premise but I'm curious to see how the debate goes, well done. Just to add to the discussion... If we could grow fetus' in an artificial wombs do you think women should be similarly financially beholden, should the father decide to complete the pregnancy without her?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 08:02 PM
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I was with the ~jist~ of this post in the first half, detailing how the power dynamics have shifted in gender relations. You went full tyrant in the second half where you start demanding that men tithe women like gods to prove their alignment, holy moly. You're not better than men now that we aren't shackled to their income, you're just your own income now. Humble yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 07:18 PM
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Then the relationship doesn't work for her and this hypothetical person. That's fine. I don't want to date someone with even one kid I get it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 06:51 PM
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Yeah I get that, like how I thought most men were in support of bodily autonomy, but when it came time to vote the numbers were much much worse than I ever feared. That's still NOT a majority, it is not endorsed or acceptable. The ones who do endorse it are absolute trash human beings but when you aren't being main-lined with hateful algorithms you can see reality much more clearly
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 06:50 PM
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Ppb. Not dating
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 06:22 AM
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So a man has no other priority but to get laid so abandons his existing life to leverage power imbalances between economy, culture, and whatever else he can to maximize his stats and get access to as many targets as possible. The horror
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 06:05 AM
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I've gone over why it's creepy to hunt down women that you cherry pick to have the most sway over based on population data and word of mouth from other babe hunters. It's not 'finding love' it's dehumanizing on paper
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:53 AM
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He would be trash for using her for a 'quick lay' when she is making it clear she wants a committed relationship. I already said it's fine if someone isn't down to date someone who has kids. I wouldn't want to either
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:48 AM
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Then he is trash. She doesn't have to accept trash, and there is very little pressure to accept trash
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:32 AM
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Yeah haha. I'm skeptical that a guy who is desperate enough to 'geomaxx' and who leverages power imbalances to seem more desirable, looks at women as equal human beings. You can call that cynical and paranoid, I call it realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:30 AM
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I'm not convinced more girls get the talk than boys, I don't think any of us are getting the talk at all these days. Idk why you have the impression that's not comparable
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:25 AM
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What do you mean deal? Either the relationship works or not. She doesn't have to accept anyone unacceptable to her. No one has to accept her if 5 kids are unacceptable to him
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:20 AM
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I don't read that crap, and if I knew a friend who was a ppb I'd be critical of her as well Be glad I don't judge men on what porn is popular among them
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:00 AM
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Online in shitty communities maybe, when I see it in mainstream communities it's condemned and in person it's just as unacceptable as male on female violence
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:57 AM
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I'm not making any pill claims. I was a naive girl who thought the opposite gender was just like the movies. When I found out that didn't reflect reality I had to grow up and take responsibility for my own preconceptions
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:47 AM
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No one coddled me when I found out guys aren't actually prince charmings waiting to peer into my soul and value me for who I am first and foremost. I was told to control myself and my reactions the first time an adult stranger yelled at me to "stick your tongue out and let me see pink girlie" But yeah... I do wish I was treated more kindly back then, so in that spirit I'll drop it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 01:22 AM
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I wasn't calling RP talking points rage bait you walnut but It is pretty funny that you equate it so strongly that that's what you thought I said. Regardless, the way you present yourself is fedora wielding levels of cringey, and needlessly angry. It doesn't make you alpha to be a brute, It reeks of insecurity. Just food for thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 12:21 AM
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Dude, you sound unhinged. What does men asking women out digitally, or not at all, have to do with our conversation? Edit: oh, actually, I think this might just be a ragebot
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 12:05 AM
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How about this, it's not our place to baby your insecurities, no one's forcing anyone to have or abandon any preferences. Women have never been more empowered in this society to be single mothers , or to be single, then we are right now. Buck up, and don't let people's opinions get to you So strongly
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 11:49 PM
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You really think the music industry pushes the message that women need to settle more than it pushes a message that women should be self-empowered?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 10:14 PM
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I didn't say it shouldn't be discussed, I said that I don't understand why you're trying to discuss it when there was no problem I don't know why you're pushing for a response here since I did in fact continued to discuss it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 10:12 PM
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I think that some of them are desperate predators, most of them are desperate, some of them just want an ethnic checklist ticked off (ew). I think that too many men are ok with taking advantage of circumstances so long as they can plead consent and get to smash. I think the opportunity for abuse is so prevalent and the ability for men to brush off actual harm is too easy. Can it happen in a non abusive way? Yeah, ofc, these women are making choices too. Do I think that Passport Bros prioritize t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 09:22 PM
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You misunderstood I don't say ppb is paying prostitutes (though I do agree some "buy wives"). ppb is looking for sex and validation like a sex tourist, ppb is paying to travel instead of paying the women directly, ppb is (in some cases) willing to take advantage of the power imbalance, restricted rights, and desperation of women with limited resources and options like a sex tourist. I see more similarities than differences. Then he wouldn't be calling himself a passport bro and taking pride in i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 08:36 PM
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Probably less than men lying to get laid, but something tells me U/dietTyrone has some double standards
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 08:28 PM
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I wasn't responding to you I was responding to u/DietTyrone
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 08:17 PM
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A sex tourist just wants sex and fake validation. Ppb do this too, depending on the circumstances, you're just avoiding all of the very real ethical implications of the decisions these men are making and the disgusting exploitation that goes along with it. Even under the best of circumstances it's still creepy to travel for the sole purpose of getting your dick wet. I assume it's an evolutionary red flag, knowing that a guy is going to those lengths is a subconscious warning light that there is …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 08:14 PM
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And what about blatantly lying to get what you want? Do you have the same attitude if she tells him how she can't wait to take him home after going out together, and then ghosting as soon as he's paid for everything? How about if he tells her he wants to live his life with her and is picturing raising a family with her, and then ghosting as soon as he gets laid? At least when she steals from him he's just out the money. Women have to live with the fact that she was physically penetrated and inti…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 07:58 PM
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It's wild that OP and the others responding don't understand this
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 07:42 PM
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I actually think about an equal amount of my male and female friends struggled with finding matches, and the ones that matched up mostly stayed together a long time once they paired. I don't think there was much of a gender gap, and the bit that there was was mostly jocks going through relationships more quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 07:38 PM
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I think it would be normal to be a peasant, I don't see how you're correlating that to rationality?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 07:10 PM
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Agreed, now we can't agree on how people behave in reality because we see videos of interactions at a higher rate than having interactions
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 07:07 PM
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I just don't know what you're talking about, most societal messaging in my experience is encouraging women not to settle, to value themselves. I thought you might have actual examples
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 06:42 PM
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What societal pressures are making women feel like they have to give up their preferences?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 06:38 PM
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"op: most of the world believes these horrible things Me: no they don't, most people believe normal things You: define normal Me: the things that are most widely accepted" Does that help?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 06:32 PM
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That's not what circular logic means Deferring to the masses is a valid definition of sanity
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 06:19 PM
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The majority of society
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 06:14 PM
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Then she doesn't have to settle, I don't get why you posted this
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 06:07 PM
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Who is making her settle? Self esteem?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 05:33 PM
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A few years ago I thought it was a much smaller percentage of men, it's painfully disheartening to find out how many there are, and that the trend is that more men turning to that rhetoric. On the bright side, it's easy to find good men. And to support them. I'm constantly just in awe of how beautiful men can be inside, when y'all let it show
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 05:31 PM
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You are getting fed rage bait from an algorithm firehose if you think women are beating men, raping boys, and expecting free seats on transport from strangers with a rubber stamp of approval. Most of the world is sane, DV is unacceptable, predation is unacceptable, and sane women are often TOO considerate to strangers imo. I don't often like to say this because it sounds so condescending, but genuinely, go outside
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 05:21 PM
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This would solve the gender war too. All perceived unfairness on both sides. Womens natural urge to do unpaid labor (akin to mans natural urge to be useful) was reframed and made into a strength, something that we value so much we stopped doing unless we wanted to and it takes a lot to make us want to. Men need to catch up with it, your unpaid labor can't be assumed anymore either. The things in life that make you feel like a piece of meat aren't acceptable anymore. I just wish you focused on yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 05:13 PM
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Lol, it's delusional to value yourself?? Self worth is a fabric woven through your entire life based on how you're treated, what you say and think about yourself and what behaviors/feelings get reinforced or punished. As an adult you start with the baggage of your self worth as you've known it your entire childhood and it takes a lot more experiences to shift it one way or another than it did when you were little. As an adult self worth is already internalized and incorporated, it isn't given to…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 04:55 PM
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What do you mean by "less" when settling for less? If a guy isn't treating you the way you want but you stick around that's low-self esteem, not settling
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 04:42 PM
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Self worth is internal, not necessarily based on dating prospects or societal messaging
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 04:40 PM
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Yes all of them. The others are what you may be calling “sex tourists” not PPBs. The criticism of ppb is that they are sex tourists It doesn’t matter if you think it’s insecure, it’s a plausible strategy. It's a way to frame your entire life around getting laid. Creepy. Not seeking out a life for yourself, not exploring or building your future. Just...hunting women. It doesn't matter how 'logical' you try to make it, I'm just telling you it gives people the ick for this reason, and it's valid, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 03:25 PM
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I think men need to be more CONSIDERATE. that word sums up everything my girlfriends have, that I appreciate, that men lack. Every drop of consideration weighs more heavily than every pound of other attractive qualities. Just be considerate
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 06:36 AM
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genuine desire is what makes a PPB a PPB. Not all of them, and I don't trust most of the others, since they go to such drastic measures. people view it as cheating/short cut to artificially enhance your attractiveness I don't care about that, I think it's insecure AF but not really morally objectionable just confused on what a PPB is. I'm not There’s nothing icky about going somewhere to increase dating options and raise your relative SMV. Yes there is
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 05:49 AM
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I mean, but we agree money is a factor. I didn't mention the fact you can go to places where you're taller than average, for example, because I was pointing out the ways that PPBs are criticized, specifically. For example if you go to Malawi (according to Wikipedia) where forced marriages are acceptable and pay off a poor family for a bride then yeah, that's disgusting, no matter how 'kind' you are to your bride. And yeah, I don't make laws, I think it's majorly creepy. I'm not making a legal ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 02:20 AM
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You 'debunked' my first point by agreeing with it? I didn't mention 'traditional gender roles' I didn't mention anyone 'wanting' anything. I think it's creepy to center your entire life around getting laid, especially when men pay exorbitant travel expenses to date in impoverished places or places where women have less opportunities than men
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 01:55 AM
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Companies operate in America because America makes them rich, if you leave the companies (and the vast amount of the money and taxes) stay If you think women "whoring" and having multiple kids with multiple men is the majority of women, the majority of the problem, or the majority of governmental support them no wonder you're so bitter. You're wrong, but I get it. I take it that you have an ex wife who remarried? Also, it takes two whores to make a baby. The fathers are just as irresponsible.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 01:41 AM
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I pointed out the three points that are most criticized, that is the point of my comment which I clearly stated. Let me reiterate, the one where hunting women is icky and weird
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 01:33 AM
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Passport bros are denigrated because the 'skills' they are 'leveraging' are having American money go further in smaller economies, and taking advantage of the misogynistic aspects of other cultures that those women there are already subjugated by. If you're just traveling for education for example and fall in love with and marry a classmate, that's rarely criticized. But 'hunting' women is going to be icky no matter how you spin it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 12:41 AM
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This take is equal parts hilarious and fascinating to me. I'm not sure which route to take in response. 1) It is delightfully nuts that you want to take down the government just to get back at women 2) The government which sets taxes is largely made of men, men make more money so taxes are reductively men paying men to do things men want 3) Women draw on more social service programs because we are raising children, whether or not you want to claim that more single women took kids away from their…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 11:45 PM
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The fuck zone is very specifically when a man is incapable of being friends with you because he prioritizes the pursuit to have sex with you. It is somewhat common, very real, and can apply to men who were genuinely friendly, and to men who fake it to get close to disarm her boundaries. What you're describing is largely how women prefer relationships develop. Where we feel desired for our companionship, not just our holes. Consider It as a mirror to the 'friend zone' => "I don't want to have sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 11:08 PM
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