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Question For WomenSuddenfury/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 09:12 PM
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The population declined, it didn't lead to an economic collapse. You must admit that it isn't the birthrate itself that's the problem, but the population decline. At least that is what everyone else is saying
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 02:37 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post%E2%80%93World_War_II_economic_expansion Just one example. Nobody knows if any bad stuff will happen, fearmongers will sell it though. And finally, why would anyone want to bring it up in a discussion about sex and dating strategy, it's just incels who think it's some argument to pressure women into lowering their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 02:24 PM
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I'm saying the economies survived those population declines, even boomed in some cases. People suffered, but the economies didn't. People aren't suffering in the birthrate decline, and the economies won't either. Maybe an adjustment, but a well needed adjustment in that case. You can choose to sit and worry about it if you want to, I'll go out and have fun instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 01:37 PM
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We have been through wars and pandemics and great depressions and humanity keeps on going. And we are overpopulated anyway, the birthrate will go up again when the population is low enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 01:21 PM
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The main issue is that a lot of nations pension systems is outdated and inherently flawed. You can't keep promising that someone else will take care of you when you're old, you will have to set that up yourself. Giving your money to someone else just to get it back later, do your own investments, set up your own nestegg. Relying on new people entering the system is called a pyramid scheme.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 01:01 PM
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Economies are still around? Even boomed after those declines. We will obviously be fine
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:52 PM
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Even considering exogenous shocks, a lot of economies boomed after those declines.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:51 PM
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I'm quite sure that primarily its about men trying to find an argument to why women should have sex with them. There are so many other ways to look at an aging population, why do so many try to blackmail women with the threat of (with no precedence at that) economic collapse.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:49 PM
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Women don't care about emasculation, it's only something men care about infront of other men. Trying to look good is stupid? okay, keep doing your thing, it's just to my advantage anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:34 AM
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This is the problem. This guy is so afraid of being "emasculated" he rather stay unattractive. He is more concerned to look good in front of the guys than to look good Infront of the gals. And then have the audacity to complain about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:17 AM
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We don't get the ick. Half of men can't even spot a light contouring.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:11 AM
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I get approached by a lot of women when I glow myself up. And men stewing about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:09 AM
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A lot of the looksmaxxer influencers is clearly using light make-up. But wouldn't admit it because it would ruin their brand. They'll use the real solution and sell you the easy one.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:08 AM
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You can go miles with some eyebrow touch-up and light make-up. I get a lot of women approaching me when I do my Vampire looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:06 AM
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I get a lot of attention when I glow myself up
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:04 AM
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I agree with your title but not the specific points you bring up. I'd say it's more cramped living and higher work pressure that's taking a toll on mental health. Basically the stress of 20 of your 40 hour work week goes to rent and it's not even a good place. But urbanization won't last forever, maybe another 50 years. As the wealth gap between nations evens out, manufacturing and food production jobs should be coming back to the countrysides.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 07:44 AM
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Hmm, I realize my sources are mostly second hand. I'm judging the fishermen based on what other people are saying that they are saying. And as you say, people are generally pretty bad at interpreting things.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 10:17 AM
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I think you're making assumptions there. What if she thought she was asexual and then through therapy realized she is "you"-sexual. Really into your type. That's good right? I think you are picturing her sleeping with "chads" and through therapy realizes she wants to settle with a "beta". That would be big nah.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:58 AM
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I think I figured it out mostly by myself
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:14 AM
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One of the things is a woman will sit down and tell you rationally and morally and socially acceptable what you should do. Same thing with a list of standards for a boyfriend. Then in the heat of the moment, when meets an attractive man that pushes her buttons, all that rationality goes away and other things take control. "Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth" (And most fishermen are LARPers that's never been in the ring or doesn't understand what they do right)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:43 PM
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There is a truth to this. I can see in myself how i used to go away from my group of friends to find women when I was younger. At a festival once I raised my tent away from the others, because I wanted to try to flirt around. I read a post once about a guy asking for advice on how to meet women, and he said conventions wasn't good because he would be busy hanging out with the pals. It's also one reason we get uninspired coffee dates because they can't bring her to their hobby with the guys. In-g…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:36 PM
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Are you lecturing the redpillers of reddit to not use their vast socioeconomic situation and power to get laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:14 PM
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What is this "Life Experience" everyone is talking about and why is it a bad thing? Like who would go "I like him, but he has too much life experience" ????
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 09:53 AM
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All of your intentions of what you will feel, think and do forever? You see, there are grey zones where you just don't know. But yeah, be honest and open. You are allowed to say "I don't know".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 07:42 AM
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OP, I thought you had a boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 09:10 PM
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I still don't understand. You'll have to be concrete. What was the ailment and what was the cure? Surely you have some fear left?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:27 PM
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What does a "breakthrough" even mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 11:12 AM
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Shallowness is generally frowned upon. But I'm pretty shallow myself so I won't judge anyone for it. There are though women and men who aren't the cream of the crop that has standards that doesn't quite match their league. It turns out like that because people judge themselves by their intentions (potential) and others by their actions (current self). So we get fat chicks who's "just in a bad place" who will ignore anyone who's not athletic because "they are lazy slobs". Or women with baggage wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 12:03 PM
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Buddy I'm 35+ and I'm dating women your age.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:56 AM
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Well, I've never said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 11:48 AM
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And why do they think singing and dancing is so horrible? It's been a standard way of socializing for thousands of years. What it is I think is that some men are in some friend group or constellation with a "Women have cooties" mindset. Trying with women will go against the ingroups perceived values, thus one would fear being outcast from the group. So our social safety system, shame, kicks in to stop you from becoming an outcast.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 08:59 AM
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Also if this person can confidently LARP confidence and it works, then just do that. It's super common for people to put on a "Tough" act and not show their insecurities until you get closer.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 08:52 AM
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Anyone complaining about having to play a jester or "humiliation ritual" is just men who are too shy. It's a disability that you can work through.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 08:46 AM
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"I might be a cynic" maybe you should stop being that? "LARPd confidence and happiness" yeah, being around mopey selfpitying people sucks. It's fun being funny, It's pleasant being romantic, It's enjoyable to be seductive. I also think few people can judge me. Someone thinks I'm cringe? Okay, let's see you try. They'll be too cowardly for that. I'm out here taking shots, living life, while they waste their time worrying about what's cringe.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 08:41 AM
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No, the problem is men approaching trying to be agreeable rather than flirty.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 08:17 AM
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About not being in to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:43 PM
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You're putting the onus on the wrong person, she should have been honest about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:36 PM
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I think it all boils down to: there is a type of woman that has a "husband material =/= fuck buddy material" mindset. Kind of like a reversed Madonna-Whore-Complex. Men are terrified to be in a relationship with such a woman, a bit overly paranoid about it. They'll get very suspicious that you are that type of woman if you start showing signs. What it means for women is that you'll need to prove you are not that type of woman. Just like you wouldn't like to date a pedo and if you see signs you'd…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:20 PM
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I have 15 years of experience in (well in my nation) kink spaces and a common complaints from women who top is they absolutely hate if a sub comes with a list of things they want to do. But yes, there are women who dominates their men, but they never seem to get off from it, get horny from it. Pleaser doms.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:04 AM
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Well, I've never met or heard of a woman with rape fantasies. Closest would be CnC fantasies with women in the center.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:47 AM
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Wtf? dominants are not rapists or abusers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:09 AM
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She will get the ick and run away if you tell her to do that. You'd be telling her to do things she doesn't want to, which will be described as coercion in online spaces. Also its contradictory, you can't be a dominant submissive, it's too far outside the box for people to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 09:05 AM
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No, he's basically right. I've been around femdom spaces quite a lot and even in those spaces very few women actually gets off from being dominant. Most do it to please their partner, for fun or to express their misandry. A submissive man better get used to the idea of being poly or prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 09:01 AM
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A bell curve has a peak and is thus supporting AFBB. Let's say you dated different people during your bell curve, then someone will get your peak and efter that its all down hill for the rest. Imagine talking about sex and hearing "well it's all down hill from here" I think everyones "life libido curve" is different and basically unpredictable (before menopause) and mostly circumstantial. AFBB as a fenomenon has different causes and is not a monolithic thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 09:03 PM
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Then its a plateu, not a peak.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 06:17 PM
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You wrote that late 20s to early 40s is where they peak. So a 35 year old man should be concerned if the woman hes dating has peaked or not. I personally don't think it works like this, but if the peak is between 25 and 45 then the men in that intervall would rightfully be concerned.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 06:12 PM
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The fact that there is a peak supports AFBB. Men don't want to come in after the peak
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 06:03 PM
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I have a feeling for how, when and where to touch someone. When it's time for a rough hairgrab and how to lightly tease my fingers up the thighs, but not all the way. I heard my own voice with some effects on it and thought that sounds pretty good. After my ex constantly told me how I didn't say the right things in bed, how she didn't like my accent compared to others and how she didn't like sexting with me. I experimented with a sexy voice and used it for voice messaging women, they love it!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:01 PM
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I don't recognize myself in the kind of man you describe, but I also have pretty much kinky sex and partners. But my answers to your questions would be. Yes, I have felt it strongly. I've been researching a lot about the psychology of a submissive. My morals and norms? Never met anyone who's attracted to morals and norms. Maybe, as I have adopted a lot more flexible morals and norms. Behaviours definitely, I've started to find something that turns women on. I do a lot of reading and watching mov…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:21 PM
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There are two pieces that's needed for me to fall in love with someone. She's attractive to me and she wants to get freaky with me. If any of those two disappears, I fall out of love. It doesn't exactly answer your question. Once a month could be fine depending on the circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 09:58 AM
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In the end it does. In the same way as we say "you're the best" when our partner helps us out with something small, we don't mean they are objectively best, just the best for you. In sex you can be as "good as anyone else, but best because you actually care about me". If you appreciate it you can easily also find a reason to why it's the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 02:42 PM
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Agree, it's really hard to say that any of the amazing sex would be better than any other amazing sex. I would always describe any current amazing sex life as the best, because it's close to me. I feel like the only reason you can't say it's the best is because you can't say it's amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 02:09 PM
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Exactly, it's not hard to say your partner is the best for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 02:01 PM
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I can't imagine spending my life with someone who wouldn't appreciate me sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 01:59 PM
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Do you mean that as in that its easier because you have a longer time to perfect it. Or that its harder because you have to keep up the good work.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 01:55 PM
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Just tell your pertner they are the best (for you) and that they make you crazy. You could win the mental jujutsu olympics with how much your trying to twist and turn away from admitting that you're not sexually attracted to your partner. Imagine someone saying to their partner "Most beautiful girl in the world? No, i actually find you kind of ugly"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 01:52 PM
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it wont really be a problem. We usually see our new partner with "rose tinted glasses", so they will always be better. I mean normal people at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 01:46 PM
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2 out of 2 lost their libido about 6 months after becoming bf/gf. but before that we were matched.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 01:25 PM
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And how many have you slept with?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:46 PM
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While what you fear exists, I don't think those threads are any strong evidence. They don't write anything about how their intimate lives are, we don't get the background on the "stable" men, maybe they're also settling. How to avoid what you fear? Set boundaries, don't be a pushover. You'll be working big parts of your brain in academia and the corporate world. But you need to work other parts to avoid this. Risk taking, artistry, disagreeableness, building tension, pushing buttons, putting peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 04:30 PM
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While I agree that people put more effort into people they're attracted to, don't think that someone is going to walk into your life and "shape you up". If you're a bum, you'll still be a bum in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 04:16 PM
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Some people are just unsympathetic, even if you explain how you feel they aren't going to understand it. Like bad students complaining about their teacher being bad at teaching, they just can't understand the subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 09:37 AM
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Ok I wrote that, let's see if it works
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 01:58 PM
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Ok, I'm attractive. Now what do I text? Anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 01:53 PM
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I know you know forecasts aren't 100%, I don't know what point you're trying to make. And what about an exact step-by-step guide to texting that will 100% get me laid, can you give me that?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 01:50 PM
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Dude, are you going to take the stance that the weather is predictable and thus forecasts are never wrong? The equivalence here is like a guy getting caught in the rain, then going online and ask for an exact step-by-step guide to know if it's going to rain or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 01:06 PM
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Marketing is a good point, humans can be influenced, but far from predicted and controlled. I counter with the stock market, completely driven by human behaviour and mostly unpredictable. If you can predict it, go and make yourself rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 12:30 PM
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Artists and musicians even more successfull. MiT rewards logical thinking, it's very useful in STEM. Dating rewards social skills(including things like navigating status) and "self presentation" skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 11:19 AM
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I also want to mention Chaos. Chaotic systems cannot be predicted. Human interactions are chaotic in nature, that's why there is no perfect script that can guide you through it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 11:16 AM
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We are heavily conditioned for Logos arguments in school and workplace. Many of us needs to practice more Pathos, Ethos and Mythos thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 11:12 AM
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Maybe it would have been better this time. No harm in just trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:53 AM
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She was really excited about it and had a bunch of fantasies about it. She had even sketched me like that. I could see the appeal. So I let her try it and I wasn't in to it. she noticed I wasn't into it and we did something else instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:43 AM
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I'd say: "we can try it, but we stop immediately if it hurts" I'm not turned on by sounding, I'd try it if she wanted with the condition that we stop whenever I want. When it comes to degrading things, I attach no value to what happens in the bedroom. Whatever I do sexually does not reflect on me as a person at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:40 AM
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36 January: approached 2 at a club, one contact but she wasn't interested and brought the other back home, i didn't want to take that further. February: Big club, approached 6, made 2 contacts who have invited me to other things of which one might be interested in more fun. 2 contacts in that city, might be interested in more fun if i come there again, struck out on the rest. March: small club, approached 3 i think. absolutely nothing. such a cold club. Tried to approach hot bartender at a bar, …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 12:06 PM
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Consider this. a) your profile is already well known by google for example. Your age, hobbies and even sexual preferences. Why would you need to create another profile? b) The algorithms to adapt content to what you like already exists. You shouldn't have to keep swiping, after a few test profiles your preferences should be quite well mapped out and you could get a feed of only good options. But that doesn't make money.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 04:27 AM
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Yes, I haven't liked being tied up with rope and tried it again with a new partner, I still didn't really like it so she untied me and we did something else. Not more to it than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 03:04 PM
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Yes, my point is that I have no problem trying things with someone I love. Maybe she knows some way to cook mushrooms that I'll like. I'll try a little bit, but stop if I really can't eat it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 03:02 PM
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Yes? If I'm really into the girl, lets try that mushroom. But i would preface with that I'm not much into mushrooms, so i might not like it. Why is just trying something such a terrible thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:04 PM
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I'm open to try anything again with a girl i really like. No big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 11:58 AM
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In my case i have never asked about it but they've told me anyway. It doesn't bother me if we aren't in a serious relationship. But it has bothered me greatly in my last relationship and a relationship before that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 11:55 AM
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I think most feminists agree that men should keep their noses out of the abortion issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 03:44 AM
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The weird thing is that as a woman you could take any man and make him confident.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 04:52 PM
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There is not a single subject in the world that is inherently uninteresting. But if your addicted to the skinnerbox of a video game, everything else will seem uninteresting.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 11:08 PM
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Every subject is interesting when you learn enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 10:10 PM
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Agreed. Come to think of it, holding a 17th century ball sounds like a fun idea. I'll let that simmer a bit
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 07:58 PM
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You can have fun with others in real life you know
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:05 PM
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Many men are stuck in gaming addiction and will never admit it. Every hour spent on games could be spent on learning music or dancing, both really useful for dating. Those women are awful, everyone should shame them. They're making men jaded to dating, and other women won't even call them out. Easy to avoid though, especially offline.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 02:05 PM
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First dopamin loop you should quit is gaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 08:36 AM
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Those women are also retarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 11:14 PM
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The only bad side is expecting someone to clean up after you for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:20 PM
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You don't even understand what social skills are OP. Which explains why you are struggling.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:00 PM
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Take your ideas and put them into practice. Come back if it's successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:55 PM
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I'd call myself Red-pill, but Red-pill has changed so much I don't recognize it anymore. But to answer your question. Yes, that sounds reasonable. Especially is the case of SA. With that said though. Trauma, PTSD, C-PTSD are heavily over diagnosed, especially over self diagnosed. Some people are just like that. It's like daddy issues. No one has a perfect father. Girl, your fucked-up-ness is just who you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:49 PM
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Are these husbands physically attractive?^^
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 12:10 PM
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Also consider how if you press someone who doesn't know taxes with hard questions you'll get non-commital, generalized, wishywashy answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 10:44 AM
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People in general do not understand themselves and have a poor understanding of how humans work. Look at taxes, if you ask an average person how taxes work you will get a bad description. Taxes are simpler than humans. Who should you ask? i don't know, it's like an unregulated doctors market out there with "alternative" medicine in every corner. Even the science is having difficulty seeing the forest for all the trees.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 09:52 AM
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why is she with him in your description?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:55 PM
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Not me, so no not all men. Yes, or in other words he does not desire her because she is the wrong woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:02 PM
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Can it not be the same with M-W-C men? They're just with a woman they're not attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 04:44 PM
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How would you say a husband can break this conditioning?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 04:43 PM
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As for how to navigate it I think two things. 1) when it comes to long term relationships you need to be wary of becoming her normal, some people talk about polarity and I think its about right. While the usual talk about polarity involves masculinity and femininty I think that is a bit of poetic overthinking, just don't become one person. 2) in the dating world. Don't try to be the good boy, try to be the bad boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 03:34 PM
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I agree that there is a variation of Madonna-Whore complex for women. I think it comes from failing to deal with sexual shame. She feels sexual shame and need to keep it away from her normal life and as you become part of her normal life, sex with you becomes a no-no. I think most cases of alpha-fcks/Beta-bcks is just this. The "Alpha" just says no to that situation while the "Beta" keeps trying to negotiate. It shows up in the discussion of husband-material too. Some women tries to keep their "…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 03:24 PM
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And there is a variation for women who find difficulty in seeing their partner, in the good husband role, as a sexual partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 03:16 PM
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I'm not just some dude 😎. No but where meeting and interacting with strangers isn't strange. A side note, I have realized the last years that for some events people go to party with their friends forming their own little parties, other events people are there together on the same big party. The second kind is best for meeting others.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 01:07 PM
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Not American either. I have personally been to tons of social events much more suited for approaching lately. So maybe they should relocate shrug
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 12:37 PM
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Come as You Are, the book that popularized responsive desire, brings up the statistic of 16% of women describe themselves as not having responsive desire. For 84% I would call that a staple. But I will concede my point, I think desire is more complicated than that. And even OP stated you'd be approached every 5-7 years which isn't too bad in the grand scope of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 12:34 PM
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And then there is responsive desire. Some women will not feel desire unless there is an other party starting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 12:24 PM
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Yes, I don't know why it always defaults to cold approaching on the street as if it's either that or hoping someone women will approach you. There are tons of other options in between!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 12:18 PM
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Been there too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 10:17 AM
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It seems I have to say this again: People tend to think their peak is just a few years away. People want that to be true. Nobody wants to think "it's all downhill from here". Let them cope. But I will say that I'm having much more success with 20 somethings now when I'm 36 than when I was 20 something.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 10:03 PM
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If you try to jump through every hoop you're going to burn yourself out. You realize it's a bad system, but people won't stop trying to find a structure or system to try and understand things. Much like a lot of men try to find conversational flowcharts for picking up women. Once you realize the system is bad, stop trying to cater to it or use it as a study guide as you call it, just smile and nod and disregard it entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 09:09 AM
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It would be the same, since the outcome is not dependant on family type.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 06:31 PM
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You're still saying net not-positive. You're saying non-traditional non-nuclear families are not as good as traditional nuclear families. You're saying it would be best if every family was traditional nuclear families and there were no other. You can say that, but don't walk around thinking you're pro-pride. Your opinion in this is anti-LGBT.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 05:17 PM
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"Traditional nuclear families typically result in the best outcomes for children and society" this implies that non-traditional non-nuclear families has worse outcome for children and society. You might not mean that, but that is the logical meaning of your sentence. If you say A is best, then not-A is not-best.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 04:05 PM
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You usually make visible what isn't already visible. And you're implying LGBT is bad for society when your saying Non-LGBT is good for society. There are plenty of LGBT families with good outcomes and plenty traditional nuclear families with bad outcomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 03:34 PM
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If apps are working for ya, then absolutely go ahead. I find them mostly frustrating and i have much better success in other spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 07:53 PM
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I see here why a lot of guys may be confused with this. A woman who is turned on by feminine submissivity needs to feel it, which means she needs to test it. It's a form of playfighting, but you'd call it being combative. If you want a woman that never challenges you, you don't want a woman who is into the feminine submissive role.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 11:20 AM
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Most men have no clue how feminine sexual submissivity works. They just want a bangmaid. Nothing wrong with that in itself. They want to play videogames all day and fuck in between games. I'm into feminine submission and a big part of that is being put into place and having been put into place, not really doing chores. Id like to define a gender archetype to explain it better. This gender is feminine, beautiful, they're put in their place, they're objectified but valued and irreplaceable, they'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 10:34 AM
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Lying about your opinions to be more agreeable is the opposite of the Red Pill strategies, anyone doing that is not following the red pill ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 06:28 PM
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Aka the goomba fallacy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 04:47 PM
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I mean women could just go date blue pill guys. Why don't they just do that? Explain to me why they don't do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 04:44 PM
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"feigning love for an entire marriage", this is not what women claim. They oftenly openly hated eachother in those marriages. The implication could also be that men were incompetent enough at recognizing other peoples feelings that they didn't notice, or just didn't care. There was a ton of unhappy marriages, one proof is the decline of husband poisonings when no-fault divorces were adopted. As a man I say this to you, you're toxic and talk bullshit, you should shut up more. Now women, go tell a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 04:35 PM
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If I fell in love with her, sure. But it really isn't something worth a lot of concern. On average it should about even out with one single dad for each single mom. They'd do best in dating eachother.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 01:54 PM
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"increased competition for jobs" this isn't right. But yes, women are expected, or expect themselves, to be so much today. Both look like a million bucks and earn a million bucks. The type of beauty we see on Instagram takes a lot of hours to create, and you're supposed to work on top of that. It's similar for men. We all try to be so much and many are burned out by it. We need to step down from the pyre of burnout. Slow down, work less, expect a bit less. Spend more time on yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 08:20 PM
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This really illustrates clearly what the red pill is all about. People like you will tell boys that "Kept touching and kissing her" is coercive, note that coercion is also considered to be rape. You tell boys "Kept touching and kissing her" is as bad as "Used some physical force to create some pain". Good, well behaved boys will ofcourse listen to this and go "Okay, I really don't want to be a rapist so i will just stay passive". These boys then get absolutely nowhere with girls and they see oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 11:27 AM
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I agree that the bluepill solutions doesn't really work. By i think it can be good to go through the motions. It will give you a good perspective when you realize it's not about the chores (But come on, don't be a slob, own your house) and it's unlikely there is anything severely wrong with you. Most people will only learn from seeing it themselves. Sure, you will lose a few years, but the lesson is valuable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 01:54 PM
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Then he should pick someone compatible, stable and realistic too right? With equal sexual values for example. He should not need to worry about af/bb, he can just find a stable, reliable woman, who isn't hot, to maximize their compatibility. Why would a woman who value attractive men, settle with an unattractive one? This is what doesn't make sense with af/bb and why i don't think it's a core dynamic in the dating world. I think af/bb is an illusion created by other dynamics
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:28 AM
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I can't see how she is supposed to be happy with someone she's not attracted to. And I can't see how he would be happy with someone who doesn't find him attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 07:59 AM
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yes you can. You just have to do things that makes you feel good about yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 10:57 AM
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People will always want their peak to be a couple of years in the future. 30 year old man will say men peak at 35. 40 year old man will say men peak at 45. Just let people cope i say. Believing everything is downhill from where you are is such a depressing mindset and not good for anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 04:26 AM
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Same here. I feel like i get way more attention from 22 year olds now than when i was 22. But I'm also way better at "game" now. More confident, better at pushing the right buttons and picking up on signals.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 04:21 AM
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You can't just put Lust aside. You should try to understand lust. It should be part of your relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 10:04 PM
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Telegram, Discord and dark web that famously collect demographics. But your basically right. The fantasy is as close as possible to non-consent without being non-consensual
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 06:57 PM
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It's a common fantasy for women. Being pushed by a dominant man. Being at his mercy. Being put in place by him. And yes, I also like doing it nude outside.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 06:50 PM
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It's like watching Akinator give you completely off questions (repeated lesbian porn posts) and then guess your character dead on the money. I don't know how the lesbian posts concluded that women like femininity
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:13 PM
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And men get confused by this as they try to become a target of attraction instead of triggering women's autogynephilia
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:02 PM
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It seems autogynephilia is defined as men being turned on by seeing themselves as a woman. Unnecessarily gendered I would say. I would broaden it on one end to not specify men but shorten it on the other to seeing themselves as the gender of "classical woman" or "classically feminine". And by classical I mean the usual ,"standard", woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:01 PM
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Yeah, that's basically correct, but I think narcissism is about of a harsh word. Many womens sexuality is based on being subjected to sex. They like seeing women being subjected to sex and see themselves in it. And many mens sexuality is based on subjecting women to sex. They want to see what is done to the woman in porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 03:53 PM
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Hard disagree. I would label myself Red-pill but it has become so full of bullshit different answers. People didn't understand the ideas and made up their own garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 03:40 PM
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Lol, go ask your best option out for a big event. You're not going to do it because you're too chicken.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 11:49 AM
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I think women needs to know you're the man. Subconsciously they will "play fight" to see you come out on top and reaffirm this. She doesn't like the sound of your breathing? worst reaction: Take it seriously and be understanding. Better: Take it seriously and throw her out because that's a fucked up way to look at and treat another person. Best: See it as her subconscious neuroticism acting up, play fighting, Either take the fight verbally calling her out for being respectless or take it into th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 08:31 AM
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Just for reference. Are you following your own advice and how is your sexlife?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 08:08 AM
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Her point is that if you think sleeping around makes women bad, then how can you complain that bad men gets to sleep around. You have just set up that sleeping around makes you bad, of course the group of bad men will be sleeping around. And like if a man constantly cheats, of course he will have a high body count. A lot of women will have had slept with the cheater, but a good husband who doesn't cheat will have a lower body count. Is the bad man really someone to look up to here?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 06:11 AM
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No, she's saying that people are saying that sleeping around makes a woman bad. And in contrast with men those people are saying that to be allowed to sleep around you have to be bad. It's a double standard. You have to pick being bad leads to sleeping around, sleeping around leads to being bad, or sleeping around isn't bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 05:59 AM
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Are they hot? Then they have no problem getting dates. Might have some problems keeping boyfriend's though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 08:00 AM
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I can tell you it's extremely painful to be with someone who doesn't think you're good enough. But the 80/20 theory is a misconception. It looks like that because there are just so many more men than women on the sexual Marketplace. Any given time there are a large share of women who, for various reasons, aren't in the market.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 04:19 PM
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It would be reasonable if the pickier side was the active side. But a significant chunk of women has a sexuality that simply doesn't work that way. They need an active person to drive things. They need to be in someones scope. They need someone outside to set the frame. All you're doing is trying to convince yourself that you can remain passive, you can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 10:33 AM
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Yeah, you have it right. On another hand, It is much better if I cause the sense of "harm" because i can do that without leaving scars. Masochism and self-harm is a messy subject, but also very human. You can't really write down a set of rules for it, you'll have to develop a feeling for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 08:07 AM
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What do you think of BDSM as a replacement for self-harm?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 12:21 PM
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15 years in the scene. Many report it as calming which would be healthy. Is it fair? i don't know. BDSM is a way of playing with power relationships which is very common even in vanilla situations, it's just more subtle.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 12:17 PM
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True, except you shouldn't date someone you're not attracted to in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 04:28 PM
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I'm with you. I cannot wrap my head around that people would date someone and be like "Eeh, you're not that great" or "You're sexually not my type". Then why date??? She might not be objectively the most beautiful person in the world, but she can be the most beautiful in MY world.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 04:19 PM
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You shouldn't be dating someone if you can't look them in the eye and tell them "Babe, you are my top 1% Stacy"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 03:54 PM
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Being a Nice guy means being passive. Agreeable, non-conforontational, risk-averse. Society isn't trying to teach you to be a nice guy, the dream of being able to be a nice guy and still date permeates the society. Same as the dream of a just world and winning the lottery. The dream of the "Nice Guy" is to reap the benefit without paying any costs or taking any risks.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 03:18 PM
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Also, Narcissism is incredibly over "diagnosed". You're a narcissist if you don't hate yourself according to reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 09:43 AM
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Two reasons really. Many womens sexuality needs someone else to be the actor, they need someone to subject them. Also they're too chicken to act. The good thing is that as the active person you get to make the choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 10:18 AM
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This is things I did as a "Nice guy" A nice guy will be understanding and patient if she acts unreasonable. A nice guy will give her an escape route in conversation. A nice guy will not tease her or corner her socially. A nice guy will attempt to equalize any power dynamics. A nice guy will think seduction is manipulative. A nice guy will be a "good boy", meek and humble. Not rocking the boat. Keep your head down and be good for society.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 06:51 PM
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Or its all in your head. You gained confidence from doing what you think should work and interpret what you see from that lens. I notice this clearly in myself, days I'm confident It seems like everyone is checking me out. Days I'm not confident I'm concerned if they are judging me. Regardless, if it makes you feel good about yourself keep doing it. Edit: also as you point out, being "Safe" does not show confidence. Cowardice is one of the greatest sins in dating as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 09:43 AM
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That is really quite interesting. Do you think it would be more accurate if someone else answered your test for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 12:53 PM
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The problem is that originally the red pill wasn't for maintaining healthy relationships. It was always about having sexual relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 09:38 AM
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If that is the definition of objectification, then me telling someone they have nice tits is not objectification. Even saying "I think you are only good for sucking dick" isn't objectifying either by that definition. Nowhere in that sentence are they refered to as an object nor is the existence of their rights or feelings questioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 11:28 AM
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Tip for women: if you are feeling overwhelmed, code an AI bot to help you vet and sort through the ocean. All the tools are out there!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 07:49 PM
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Or redefine what is good. Is it bad to excite someone? To make them come alive, give them passion and electricity? Is it good to repress yourself? kill your feelings and let your passions die?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 08:31 AM
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"Local rapper"? You're not a bad person for being a local rapper. infact, you should try being that if they get so many dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 08:28 AM
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I've seen many security guards who seem like just regular guys. You seem to make a weird case with the Bartender. It seems your definition of an average joe is to be one of the 300 invisible guys attending the club, and being part of the visible 10 makes you a not an average joe. OP's point is that anyone, even without any extraordinary traits, I. e. an average Joe, CAN be in one of these positions and WILL benefit from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 12:40 PM
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Dancing is an excuse to meet. I think a lot of people are thinking like this: "I wish there was an app, then i could stay home instead of going out dancing". Then you go on the apps and the effort threshold is lower. But that means the people on there are trashier too. And the lack of good excuses to meet makes the meeting threshold larger.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 10:27 AM
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Well you can't really blame a lack of women on anyone but yourself if you choose to avoid women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 10:13 AM
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How is a security guard or bartender not an average joe?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 10:10 AM
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Must be a US thing, it's absolutely not like that here in Europe. I've been visiting "meat space" events every weekend for the last couple of months. Any one of them I could be involved in if I had asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 10:02 AM
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You're underestimating how many will ignore this idea. Tons of men will instead pay out of their ass for a testosterone test rather than commit more time to be around women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 09:57 AM
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Add alcohol and drugs onto that and it's even easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 09:52 AM
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Many are still confused as to what impresses women and what impresses her father basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 12:38 PM
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Sure, but remember this. You are NEVER getting away from having to be active in the dating enviroment. Flirting skills do 90% of the work. Doesn't matter how many stories you have if you can't tell them. And don't neglect your expressive side. Dancing, music, artistry.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 12:34 PM
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I don't understand how you can see a person who employs a dozen other people as not empowered.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 01:03 PM
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Heres how it is. There are somewhere around 10-20% of women that has a high sexual appetite (Matching men). These women will of course be sexual with their type. This means their top 10-20 % of men. There are some reoccuring patterns of what women like. Status as you say, some looks, some ways to act. You have a "Religious man" tag. You probably should ask yourself if you want to cater to your religion or cater to what women like. In a way it's like saying: should you try to impress other men (A…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 11:19 AM
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I haven't quite figured it out yet. I think they're attracted to authority
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 04:07 PM
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As a 35 year old i slept with 3 women that was between 20 and 23. This year i have been sexting with 5 women between 20 and 24. My money has not been involved in any way. There are quite a lot of women who is in to an agegap. Roughly guessing ~15%
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 03:26 PM
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Responsive desire as described in "Come as you are" is when Desire follows arousal. She will want to have sex after she has started having it, basically. Desire as a response to arousal You are right that the discussion needs a good definition. I think it might be worth skipping it entirely and just write it out in full description of what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 04:51 PM
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Men talk a lot about frequency and initiations, but what they really fear is a non-response. "It's not sexy when you do it"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 04:45 PM
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It's partially because people have misunderstood responsive desire. As described in "Come as you are" its when desire follows arousal. You get your body going first, then you start desiring. for example desire comes when you have already started to have sex. The description you use here, desire/arousal as a response to a stimuli, gets confusing as you say because almost everyone works like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 04:41 PM
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In my experience, people will exercise less caution if they think the other person is really attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 04:32 PM
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I think social safety is one of the most important safeties. Even more important than "Will this man hurt me" is "Could i defend this infront of my peers". Thats why being a bad boy works because she could say "It was him, not me" or a fuckboy because "Everyone else did it, so it's not really me"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 04:29 PM
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Think about it, why do you even need to make a profile? Google already knows my profile just ask them. Why do you even need to swipe? Instagram-like and YouTube-like algorithms have been around for 15 years. You already know what I'm interested in. Matching two people based on interests and personality is a solved problem, and with image analysis you can likely already know who you will find attractive. Dating apps should be a thing of the past. Because the apps aren't made to match you, they're…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 08:38 AM
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My experience is also that my "Nice Guy" profiles has been unsuccessfull while my "Bad Boy" profiles has been more successfull. The thing is that you are giving advice that would work on YOU. You don't know what other women are like because you haven't dated other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 09:52 AM
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Why do the guys refuse to change? They're only staying like that to appease eachother
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 02:49 PM
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I agree enthusiastically. With every partner I've had, I have wanted to do everything I've ever done with them and been open to try anything they'd like. By the way, I've seen you mention offhandedly about different standards for hook-ups vs relationships. I'm really curious about what you mean by that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 02:46 PM
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All of that is manageable. Imagine a rich person saying: "It annoys me when people say they want to be rich. Actually having money isn't that nice, I never know if someone just wants to be friends for my money or for who i am. People expect more of you. You have to go to parties you don't like. I don't have that much to spend on hobbies anyway, now i need to spend so much on keeping up a lifestyle with fancy cars and luxury hotels. Everyone is asking me for handouts, even unattractive people, it…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 08:18 AM
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I'm abolutely sure some power is behind a psy-op fueling the "Gender wars".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 07:18 AM
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You are right. Just look at how many of the male contributor giants that were total "incels". The confusion is about what the men in-group appreciates in other men vs what women appreciates in men. Classic example is a nice car, the men in-group will go "Cool car!" while most women don't care. Women also confuse themselves thinking they want what the in-group of other women thinks a woman should want.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 07:16 AM
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I know at least two women who would categorize men and have different sexual behaviour with the different categories, not related to their dating behaviour. Some women have gone further than what they are used to with me due to my in-group social status or them being enamoured by me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 02:50 PM
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Are you posting for men to stop trying so hard, so women will stop being so spoiled with attention, so you will easier get laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 08:08 AM
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That doesn't make any sense. Is this how you mean? with person A you think sex is special and important in relationships because you both like a thing, but with person B you think it's not special and unimportant for relationships because neither of you like another thing. I don't understand this. Or is it like, the things you both like are special, but the things you disagree on aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 04:30 PM
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Does that specialness include sex? and special sex/kinky sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 04:18 PM
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Well, do you stand by that definition? I disagree with that definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 04:11 PM
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People who are secure in themselves don't need a relationship for "Fostering connection, providing companionship, emotional support, enchancing personal growth, safe spaces, improving self awareness". Sure it's good to support eachother, but if you can't stand on your own it's called codependent.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 04:06 PM
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Point 1: "The point of a relationship is not just for the man to get sex" True. "The primary point of a relationship is to foster connection..." blah blah blah A lot of words for saying you're insecure in yourself. You can get most of that from friendships or self compassion. The important thing is romantic connection. For most people it's like baking a cake, you need eggs AND flour. For a relationship (boyfriend/girlfriend, marriage) you need romantic connection AND sexual connection. But if yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 03:20 PM
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You are making assumptions from your bias. As i said, my attractivity or my flirting skills was never the issue. This something you constructed yourself. The elephant is something different.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 06:21 PM
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It wasn't about 3+ people things, 2 person activities. And we did a bunch of stuff in the beginning. It was hard for me to understand too. I am not that offended by people not desiring me. There are a billion people who don't. Of course it would hurt a lot to hear that, once. But it's much worse to be stringed along in a relationship where you are unappreciated, constantly sent on a goosechase of the week as to what's wrong. But again, the source of the issue was probably her sexual shame, which…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 06:15 PM
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agreed, took me years to understand anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 06:03 PM
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i don't want to share everything. But at a larger social gathering for a mutual hobby.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 05:38 PM
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nah, that guy would have wanted that. I was definitely her first choice and very much attractive to her and things were fiery in the beginning. I think due to very strong sexual shame, she had difficulties being sexual with someone who is close enough to be part of her representation. Meaning as we became more and more "Public" and getting a united representation, she couldn't claim for herself that "It doesn't represent me though".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 05:37 PM
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In retrospect i have come to understand she was sexually phobic towards me, which meant that anything I'd try would be viewed in a criticizing, negative light. I'll try to remember something specific, I think just texting was one thing. She talked alot about how excited she got from sexting with a guy before me, but she wouldn't respond to my sexting and said she didn't like the way I sexted (She later showed me some examples, and it wasn't really anything different). Now if it's one thing like …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 04:42 PM
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Maybe this is where people gets confused in this debate. This absolutely happens that people talk about their sexual past unprompted (In a positive way), but don't want to do that with their current partner (Confusing i tell you). The explanations are there, but it usually amounts to that you are not "It". And then you have the scenario where a partner is pressing on the sexual history and demanding equal treatment. I can definitely see this driven by jealousy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 03:34 PM
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"The issue is when men probe women for information about the past sex they had." This is just such a terrible idea, same as asking about previous partners penis sizes. Just don't ask. In this case i might agree with the "retroactive jealousy" bit, some kind of self-destructive drive is going on there. Why is this person thinking about the past, the person should be dreaming about the future. For reference, my ex used to spill a bunch of stuff about her sexual history that i never asked about and…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 03:26 PM
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It's such a non-issue. People make up this kind of scenario but it's really not complicated. If she likes kinky stuff, why would she not continue to do kinky stuff? If she likes something and he also likes it, you got a match! If it gives him the ick, no match. If she is in the tricky situation of "used to like it but don't anymore", it's really a tough position. Guys who approves of it will clash with your current self and guys who disapproves will clash with your past self. Best bet is probabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 03:06 PM
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Some people just can't stop seeing the glass as half-empty, they'll never stop complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 01:29 PM
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In regards to disagreements: People resort to all manner of weird argumentation in disagreements. And In a completely different direction, I know several women that gets turned on by what you call SIGN language.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 02:44 PM
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There are a lot of sides and nuances to this question. The only real answer is to stay away from toxic social media, keep your boundaries strong and practice gratefulness.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:39 PM
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No dude. Fast and processed food and therapy existing isn't why you're not finding a girl. Women don't fall in love or get turned on by men who can be their provider. That's the answer to that double standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 11:34 AM
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Okay, go on and get laid from a dating app. Why are you still even on reddit? You've got 48 hours to prove your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 11:34 AM
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What you have to consider is some boys grow up already nice and is told that boys needs to be nicer. Or boys who aren't manipulative grow up hearing about all these bad manipulative men and tries to be even less manipulativ (=passive, trying to not affect at all). Then we have the noob/no life effect. Like in online games, anyone playing less than you are noobs, anyone playing more than you are nolifers. Anyone being nicer than you are meek "nice guys", anyone being less nice are basically bulli…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 05:21 PM
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I'm not giving anyone my money. Those kids should be put in foster care, but it seems you think it's more important to support women predating on men than their well-being.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 02:52 PM
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At least women won't be able to manipulate men's feelings for their money anymore. Too bad narcissists lose their paycheck to the big guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 02:14 PM
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It's a pointless discussion because AI will take over that whole field and the men won't even notice it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 01:04 PM
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... That's a red pill success story. You change who you were and not "be yourself".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 06:16 PM
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Posts by women are disproportionally upvoted.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 01:34 PM
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Depends on what you mean by game. The concept has been modified and corrupted in many ways. But if you ask "Is there a way to interact with women that fuels their attraction?", then i believe yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 12:02 PM
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You can learn it. It is just very different from other things you learn, and asks you to challenge your beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 11:56 AM
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ok, but how do you know he is successful? How do you know some women find him sexually irresistible?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 12:20 PM
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Being successful in dating does not require apps though
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 09:53 AM
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yeah, and how are you doing with the ladies?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 12:49 PM
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I can tell you, no woman has ever been turned on or attracted to the fact that i help treat children with cancer. What gets them going is my looks/height/style, image and/or how i'm "dominant" (cocky dont-give-a-fuck attitude is closely related)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 12:47 PM
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Lots of women love cockiness. Other men, not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 11:52 AM
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That's not my experience at all. Women like confidence and they like looks, especially if you have both.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 11:50 AM
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So what is your position on divorce? What you're describing is a teamwork and thus in case of divorce everything should be split 50/50, inculding the breadwinning. Besides the real truth is that some women are just complainers, they can't help it themselves. You either put a stop to such behaviour or find a non-complainer.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 10:26 AM
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Not having sex is disgraceful for men. Submissive men wants to be disgraced, thus submissive men likes chastity and cuckolding. Not having sex is not a disgrace for women, so even submissive women don't care about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:58 AM
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https://www.mindbodygreen.com/articles/how-often-married-couples-have-sex?srsltid=AfmBOoqGOTt_gU9_kD3JaH6Yl658aetXGYQxwKdGH079z-cvKLZVhfBV In 2013, AARP reported that ... and 33% of couples rarely or never have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:14 AM
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No, i have a simulator in my head. I want real mutual desire in the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 09:49 AM
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Yes, the well known underdog, big tobacco.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 11:16 AM
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"buddies I’m not interested in", then you really can't complain about being lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 06:09 AM
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you can do all of those things outside. Go to a convention of each kind, thats 5 conventions a year. Pot-lucks, writing workshop, book-club.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 05:22 AM
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You wrote "other way around" which would mean that men are the ones oppressed.^ But yes, it's unfair. And are you going to wait until it changes? I won't, I'll just accept it and play the game that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 01:30 PM
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"she’ll leave you for one of your friends"... What? Why are these men so adamantly against going out and meeting people?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 12:51 PM
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Are you saying men have it hard and is oppressed because they need to... spend time with other people?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 12:45 PM
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It ends up like that because men and women are sexually different.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 12:43 PM
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There is no science that shows that there are introverts or extroverts. Might aswell say you're a Capricorn. Like running, it's awkward and draining before youre body and mind gets used to it. Same for being social.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 12:35 PM
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Well "caring, funny and honest... are the most important characteristics with a partner according to young people" is a true statement, they just don't explain how that's what people think and not quite how it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 12:08 PM
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It actually wasn't that bad. It fails to mention some things, but you could call that advanced level stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 11:48 AM
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Ok, there are no men that put in real effort and remains lonely. That's the real answer
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 10:12 AM
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No? I only see men keep talking and posting about the male loneliness epidemic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 09:24 AM
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Lol, nice try. You don't have friends :P
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 09:23 AM
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School gave us this for free by forcing us into groups several hours per day. We took it for granted. We even put up a habit of resistance to it. Now outside of school we have become lazy and the habit is isolating us. You're not in school anymore, you have to take accountability for your own social life. Stop avoiding.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 09:21 AM
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Often they don't really put in "effort". They try half-heartedly ones and the go back to complaining
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 09:18 AM
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There is extremely many that just will find any excuse to isolate themselves. They should see top doing that or stop complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 09:17 AM
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It's an excuse. Just being whiny and self pitying. And excuse to keep isolating yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 09:16 AM
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Isolating yourself to play videogames isn't a mature thing to do
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 09:12 AM
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Maybe leave the house to live life?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 09:11 AM
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If your guy friends aren't curing your loneliness then there is something else going on than loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 09:10 AM
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Then you can't complain about being lonely. And blame women for you being lonely. (Which some men do)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 09:08 AM
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Bullshit. There are more hobby events than ever. You have any hobby and you can find something going on not too far away, and if there isn't then make one. Teamsports are still very much being played. 70% no-shows to invitations, that's just how it is, don't have to take it so hard. People won't think your desperate, just happy to be invited and think you must have an active life. Most people aren't suspicious of unattached men, most people don't think much about you at all. I'll repeat that. Mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 09:07 AM
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No, you should focus on getting good at social dynamics (Including flirting, networking and setting boundaries) and how to make yourself look the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 03:50 PM
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Your explanation doesn't work out if we consider a man can only take one woman on a date(mostly true). Come date night, the man can only pick one of the woman he swiped for even if they all love him. The women not picked by him will have to go with their second favorite or not go on a date at all. Repeat this and eventually everyone is paired up. The reason it isn't working I think is because it's difficult to grow a connection online. The easy access also brings out slop accounts and loweffort …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 10:56 AM
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Yes, unless it's gone to far and she has subconsciously lost all respect for you. In that case the only solution is to separate for at least a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 01:49 PM
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"At least I'm getting laid" they think. Except that won't last. When her neuroticism stays unchecked it will just grow stronger. She'll start finding more faults. She'll get the ick. This can be prevented with some simple words. Word she's never heard before, especially never from any of her online, slobbering, thirsty male "friends". "You're being rude and disrespectful", "that's ungrateful of you", "you don't use that tone with me". That will make her think. You don't have to throw an ultimatu…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 01:46 PM
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Yeah, the important is really whether the partner thinks they're best more than whether they're absolutely best. It wouldn't be a matter if people in general think I'm unattractive, but if my partner actively and clearly thinks I'm less attractive than her ex, I'd say she isn't appreciating me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 05:37 PM
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Okay, I could be wrong on that. I have myself never talked down any of my girlfriends and have never heard anyone else do it, but I am an outlier then.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 05:13 PM
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Exactly. And honestly, I don't think it's very common to discuss which women are hotter than your girlfriend even in guy groups. You'd just discuss which women are hot in general without the comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 04:34 PM
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Yep. And if you were an asshole and did tell them, it wouldn't be strange if she said hell nah and broke up. Just like OP is describing (but opposite genders). Don't give shit and don't take shit. My red pill stance is that what OP is describing is disrespecful and you shouldn't tolerate it. Many women have a natural disrespectful, critizising attitude and is enabled by society to act however they want. Nip it in the bud early, take none of that. Being understanding and amicable will just make i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 03:42 PM
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It's subjective but it's not uniformly distributed. It's still subjective even if everyone would agree with eachother.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 02:54 PM
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Let's say you're dating someone. You can just decide for yourself that you think they are the best. You can decide to think about how great they are instead of comparing them to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 01:44 PM
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Well yeah, but it's easy to just adopt the mindset that your man/woman is the best, or optimal for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 01:34 PM
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I mostly agree. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but it's not uniformly distributed. I say the 80/20 thing is mostly from the ratio between men and women on the dating floor.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 01:30 PM
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Well i wont be with her if shes being disrespectful or is putting me down.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 12:22 PM
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Lift. Each. Other. Up. I promise though, if you're in a good relationship, you're not going to worry about these things. you'll be too busy having a great time together.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 12:18 PM
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Then they are saying they were more willing-to-try with their ex than with their current.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 12:13 PM
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Would you say to your girlfriend that she is not the most beautiful in the world? ´ No, you wouldn't right? She is the most beautiful in the world, to you. She might not be objectively the most beautiful, but in your world she can be. Same thing with men. Does he have the most exciting life? maybe, not. but it can be on a perfect level for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 12:10 PM
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Do you have any example of this happening in reality? I have myself never seen that happen. There are two versions of "Responsive Desire". There is the original research version which is that you get desire after arousal, you will want to have sex after you are already being physically stimulated. You will want sex after you already started having sex. Then there is the Reddit version which says you become aroused or get desire (Reddit doesn't differentiate) in response to a stimuli. Which is ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 11:11 AM
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I do see many women on reddit who thinks you can be in a normal relationship without sex and reddit attracts many autists. so maybe you have a point
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 10:35 AM
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No, they don't like to ask because their gut feeling (reading the room) is telling them they'll get a no.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 07:28 PM
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nah you can ask, there are "In-vibe" ways to ask. But thats the thing, OP doesn't want to vibe, vibeing is scary because then you have connection and feel things, he just want to put his pp in.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 07:17 PM
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Invite the person to something you want to do instead. 1) You get to do something you like, you'll be a lot more fun when you're not bored. 2) Your date gets to know what you like, and will have more fun with you because you're also having a good time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 01:19 PM
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Being pretty happy with yourself gives a lot of confidence and room for attitude. Confidence and attitude makes anything sexy to women. How to be happy with yourself? 1) Cut off everyone who makes you not happy with yourself, 2) sleep and staying healthy, 3) realizing that just doing these two things and feeling good puts you way above 90% of men. Don't critisize yourself for not being the man you want to be, be happy with yourself that you are close. Stay away from "I'm not good enough" and go …
/r/TheRedPill19/10/25 10:47 AM
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Never happened to me. Had a situationship for about 6 years, never lost my libido for that. Girlfriend for 2.5 years, never lost it. But maybe your second paragraph explains it, since I'm very sexually creative.
/r/TheRedPill17/10/25 11:41 AM
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I think you're overthinking it. It's all alibis for the real brake, she hasn't been able to relate her sexuality to her public life. Chores is just one of the whack-a-mole of excuses used to avoid the cognitive dissonance. Just look at how many women react when you propose a solution of getting a housecleaning service. They'll dismiss it because it will prove them wrong. With a new partners, before they are settled, their libido is strong again. But the cycle will continue until they find a man …
/r/TheRedPill17/10/25 11:33 AM
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Strong points. "- The madonna-whore complex is real." To expand on this, she wants to be a madonna publicly, and as you become part of her public self, like a husband or live-in boyfriend, she will feel like its wrong to be a whore with you. "- Some of the traditional rules that men tell each other don't always work in practice." And some rules women tell men. could you expand on the "especially after a kid or two", what do you think changes after that?
/r/TheRedPill17/10/25 10:57 AM
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If you play games you will notice some players will dismiss a winning strategy because they've lost to it before. They'll claim its not the right way to play. Same thing here. They see some man getting womens attention on social media and think it's some kind of cheating. I think they are also really afraid of the simple truth "marketing is really efficient".
/r/TheRedPill14/10/25 07:30 AM
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Or do flaunt your status and get laid.
/r/TheRedPill14/10/25 07:21 AM
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“low effort, effortless, no social media” wtf is that? "Everything should be free and socializing with people is scary and hard work." You can use AI to draw up some concept images of the vibe you're going for. You have money, you have a team. Get a good photographer on your team and then just go for it. It'll be fun! You might not get the biggest following in the world, but surely big enough.
/r/TheRedPill14/10/25 07:15 AM
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almost 100%. As you say you don't need a million followers, its just a really good way to market yourself. "basically infinite quality pussy", maybe true but that's also an unrealistic goal. A few months of one good quality pussy every year is a perfectly good life. "I taught myself photography and editing so all my pictures and videos looked great" I've done the same, but if you're a millionaire, just pay for one, easy. It's simple. Woman see man with other women, women thinks man has status, w…
/r/TheRedPill14/10/25 07:05 AM
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I agree that most men who are "lonely" really just want to have sex. I disagree that sexual connection would be in some way inferior to other connections. You're saying sexual frustration is not a valid feeling. You are invalidating their experience and emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 01:18 PM
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Also, everyone has been telling you that you should make pizza with wholegrain bread, no cheese and raw vegetables because it would be good for everyone. And then you stand there, trying to sell your pizzas, seeing everyone buying the "bad" pizzas anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 08:13 PM
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Lots of married men and lots of dead bedrooms out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 07:43 AM
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People can't sense this???
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 05:44 PM
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Yep it's a fallacy. But even if you do point out logical pitfalls, people are going to keep falling in them. It's why marketing tricks keep working. You cant make people avoid them, make them work in your favor instead or pick your battles. For people like OP, she's always going to find something wrong, so better spend time on someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 11:52 AM
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I think "red pill stoicism" comes from men being afraid of emotions, risks and expressions. Telling themselves that being reserved and dull is a virtue. You are right that "real" Stoicism doesn't align well with the philosophy of "Red Pill Sexual Strategy".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 01:54 PM
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Agree. Yep, meek men doubling down on their meekness in a dream that they will be rewarded for it one day.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 01:50 PM
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It's very common, well known and effective strategy for getting womens attention. I have seen how it twists women's perception: "He knows what he's talking about, look how many women are on his channel!" Ever wondered why they're all eastern European? they're paid to be there. "Oh, but still" ... Even if they're aware of the manipulation, they still fall for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 05:20 AM
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Whatever turns her on honestly
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 06:53 PM
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But you are still assuming that people who do it must be unhealthy! You're doing a "I'm not racist but ..." thing. Unhealthy people are unhealthy and should be treated for their unhealth, their sexual behaviour doesn't need to be put into question.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 06:01 PM
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Is casual sex so unthinkable that you would immediately assume foul play?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 05:33 PM
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The problem is people project their unhealthy relationship with sex onto others. You must assume sex is inherently bad to say it is a form of self-harm. Depression can cause you to want to take a trip to Paris, but you wouldn't say traveling to Paris is problematic. For some reason humans have an ambivalent relationship to sex, we want it and fear it at the same time. This causes all of this slut-shaming we see in almost all cultures and religions.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 04:43 PM
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Isn't that basically van-life?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 10:40 AM
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Priesthood and nunhood are concepts that should make a return in a non-religous capacity. It's clear some men need a break from their lust and some women just cannot handle life among men. Set up a homogenously-gendered and asexual environment where you can focus on spirituality, art and mindful production. Shouldn't be the norm, but should be an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 10:38 AM
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You have a Trauma. You have a gushing wound in your psyche. And man, it's really difficult to be pleasant and have a relaxed date with fucking knife piercing your abdomen. You got to get that knife out. Find a peaceful place, stay away from the internet and get that wound healed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 03:50 PM
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So a bunch to unpack here. First of all, Eulogising psychopathy, beyond moronic as you say. "she lost attraction to her boyfriend after seeing him protect his face in a fight" absolutely insane woman. A lot of women do like fighters though, it's a masculine thing to do. It's not inherently psychopathic, especially controlled environments like boxing. Taking up boxing to do more manly things makes sense, for yourself or for attracting women. So boxing is not moronic. It's a lot of fun too. And as…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 03:42 PM
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It sounds like you should focus on that rather than school and work. Remember that people think all manner of crazy things, just look at reddit. So one girl thinking you are creepy or cringey doesn't really mean anything. People are often just flat-out wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 10:48 AM
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It's just an excuse not to face your social fears. Women like expressive men, some men are afraid of expressing themselves and being social. They tell themselves that escaping into their comfort-zone of non-expression is the solution to their problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 10:38 AM
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Ok, I've played around a lot with different sexual experiences at the same time as i got my education. Now i have a super attractive girlfriend and had loads of fun. You're abstinence gained you nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 10:31 AM
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Women like men who are passionate and expressive, full of life, who tend to also be fickle. Wet blanketing yourself and "Hiding in the corner"-maxxing has no benefit in dating. All your efforts into self-control is worthless, you are just enabling your fear of feelings and expressing yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 10:26 AM
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True, and like taking care of your body i would also say is just being an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 09:59 AM
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Just don't think that jumping into the hamster-wheel will make you attractive. Don't think trying to impress other men will be impressive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 09:07 AM
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Part of the problem is that she could not wrap her head around maybe inviting you to the thing she was doing (the gig). People too much seperates their dating life and fun life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 04:55 PM
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I mean their own personal sexuality. When they start to do sexual stuff with others. Sub-frenzy is an example
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 02:23 PM
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Sexual experience does not imply openness. Sometimes it can be the opposite. Women just discovering their sexuality is the most open to new things.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 11:34 AM
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I was going to bring up marketeers as a counterexample, but they are soulless yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 03:14 PM
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What do you mean with "More in common" then? and if having "more in common" is neither better or worse for a relationship, why do you take it up at all? Are you kind of talking about the idea that a common enemy unites us as a group?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 02:23 PM
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Considering how much arranged and forced marriages coupled with marital rape and normalized domestic violence there was in the past I don't think your point stands that relationships were better back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 10:50 AM
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Men on PPD has some fixation with tattoos that I haven't figured out yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:48 PM
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And facial beauty, and body-shape. And women judge personality and social status which can change. "If you only look toward the sunset, the whole sky is actually red."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:45 PM
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I'm a little confused to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 07:28 PM
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Thank you for your answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 07:55 AM
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Yeah, it seems like the moving-in-together part is usually the killing blow. Kepp doing what you're doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 07:54 AM
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No, it counts, rationalization is very common in this topic. Thank you for your honest answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 07:53 AM
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Me personally? Dates for connection and/or sexual connection. Im not saying that maintenance is bad. I don't call it maintenance though, I work in maintenance. I call it having fun and being romantic together. Cute parents, are they having sex though?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 07:51 AM
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It's just sounds like a relationship isn't something you'd join in for a better sexlife when you describe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 11:14 PM
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Eeeh, lacking relationship maintenance can really be a symptom of lacking sex, so that case isn't like the others and could be a case of what I'm asking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 10:16 PM
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Just a few weeks after childbirth is still a fast recovery.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 09:42 PM
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This is in line with my thoughts too, it's kind of about becoming a proper person. For some the concept of being a proper adult doesn't work well with their sexual selves. Children of course changes everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 09:41 PM
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Thats understandable. Giving birth is quite extreme circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 09:38 PM
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Yeah, that might be right.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 09:37 PM
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Short answer is: Yes, I can identify a few dynamics that will give that result. Like if a woman was in a relationship where things went to fast, she would overreacted and take things slow with the next person. That would look like an alpha fucks/beta bux situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 08:52 PM
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Would you only breath in or only breath out?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 08:10 AM
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Yeah he should, but if he won't and thats his only flaw. Is it a dealbreaker?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 02:28 PM
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Yeah i agree downplaying it is a good idea. I myself wouldn't be bothered, but some men are. Maybe put away some savings so you "Technically" earn less or some other creative accounting.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 12:07 PM
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Dating apps is a dream of convenience. Following that path, the most convenient is just staying home and masturbating. That's why it's never going to work. Work on a strong social position instead.
/r/TheRedPill08/10/24 11:37 AM
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“The sex you see in porn is not a realistic expectation” is cope for people who isn't having pornographic sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 10:28 AM
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Yeah, there are a lot of hypocritical women. You don't need to make everyone happy, you can ignore them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 07:36 PM
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When men whine about women you should turn off your device and go outside.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 03:49 PM
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Both men and women do this. And they both get down bad. But no woman I know have taken action for the ones they are down bad with. "the thought of another woman even talking to him or even worse making him laugh would ruin my whole evening." That's not normal. Your experience is not normal, don't give advice to normal people.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 03:41 PM
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Seek attention and leave windows, yes. But few women will take action. Most will give up instead. Actually, usually women are interested in more than one person and the one of them who takes initiative is the one she will go out with.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 12:55 PM
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I can tell you that a lot of men doesn't really know what they want. In the moment they'll tell the truth and after having sex they change their mind. Also women will read in too much when they have high hopes for someone. Men will take the offered sexual opportunity but don't commit as it's not what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 12:50 PM
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"People are not machines with explicit instuctions, here are three explicit instructions." Get out of here! You can approach women who are busy. You can be heavy handed in some contexts, such as when alcohol is involved. It takes a lot to remove someones freedom of choice, most men on here are too passive as it is. You didn't even actually score in your story, getting someones instagram is not useless but far from a success story.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 12:45 PM
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My complaint? My point is that she is not presenting evidence that being nice and sweet leads to sexual success. Quite the opposite. She is showing that if your nice and sweet like her boyfriend, you get an anti-porn girlfriend like her.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 10:40 AM
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Thanks i've already found several over the years. Well, never ask him about it when he's drunk ;). Anyway he is not what men on here wants to be, so you shouldn't bring him up as a good example.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 07:04 PM
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No, but she doesn't have to be an angel.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:58 PM
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Yeah, the problem with the discussion around nice guys and bad boys is that everyone applies different traits to them. It's better to look at the specific traits themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:57 PM
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hmm, yeah. i have never actually found an argument against "live fast, die young".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:55 PM
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Well there's the full picture. We are basically discussing if being nice will get you laid, you're saying your boyfriend is nice and it turns out he's basically not getting laid. But sure, if a man doesn't want to have a fun sexlife, then he wont have to think about niceness.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:51 PM
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Not everything revolves around long term relationships. You can have fun in the moment and see how things go too. Not everyone has to fit in the forever after dream.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:42 PM
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Or you could have a fun life?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:40 PM
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Okay, and how many threesomes has he had?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:36 PM
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Women are also vilified for that drive, just in a different way. Most men here can be much less respectful. The level of respectful these men here are is boring. It's okay to joke around with women, to be flirty, to be sexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:35 PM
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CEOs work themselves to the grave, don't envy that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:33 PM
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Is being charming not part of being nice to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:31 PM
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You can avoid being a meek passive man without being an asshole. Being a bit cheeky and rude doesn't make you an asshole. Being adventurous and risk taking doesn't make you an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:29 PM
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You can be not a nice guy without being cheating and abusive. This is the problem with this discussion. People will say if your not a meek passive man you must be an abuser. No you can be neither of those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:27 PM
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Nah, you should be a bad boy 😎. Thats what the chicks like. Most men on here have so much margin on their good boy points they can much badder. Theyre not even close to being fuckboys, so they can afford to be ruder and more sexual presenting.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:24 PM
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Yeah it's a bit of a mental dead end to get caught on sharing hobbies and interests. Some relationships are purely of lust and desire. Maybe it won't last, but nothing does.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:19 PM
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You should be flirty with women you are interested in, a bit cheeky and rude is good. Not every interaction has to be determined on whether or not you will be together forever after. Time limited flings is fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:16 PM
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Yeah, what ride will you take in the amusement park? The rollercoaster or the park bench? A bit of risk is exciting
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:12 PM
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People really need to stop discussing "nice guys" and "bad boys" and look at the specific traits instead. What it is is that some traits we are taught to be good traits and will give you good boy points is unattractive. So we are taught that we should be a good boy and how to get good boy points. For example being risk averse, not taking space, do as your boss tells you, don't joke around, don't be sexual, get good grades, don't display emptions, be a follower. These traits are good for becoming…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:42 PM
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That kind of thinking will only lead to problems. Try things with your established partner, any act feels differently between different partners and both persons get a chance to experience it. An the threesome thing, you're either into threesomes or not, your current relationship status isn't really relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:22 PM
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"if they enthusiastically consent but then stop consenting mid act, and the other person continues the act, then that's still rape" No one is going to be convicted if that was a real-life situation. There would have to be clear signals of the changed consent status, such as physical or verbal resistance.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 05:55 PM
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I myself don't see a lot of discussion around enthusiastic consent. Which is sad because there is a lot to discuss there. If I had 2 minutes to teach someone about sex and consent, I would teach them about enthusiastic consent and no one would get in any trouble. If I had a lot of time I would go deeper into the nuances of consent and the legal stuff behind it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 05:48 PM
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It might be labeled "sexual coercion" online and casually, but again in legal definitions it is not. Legally, sexual coercion is using threats other than of violence. Like threat of eviction for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 05:42 PM
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What you are describing is how the virtues and ideals of the young man doesn't align with what women are attracted to. It's interesting to speculate on why it's like this, but in the end you can't change everyone else. The young man has to admit he was fooled and raised wrong, and start working hard on changing some core things about himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 04:35 PM
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Lots of fat ugly women to have fun with ;)
/r/TheRedPill25/09/24 10:20 AM
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Lots of fat ugly women to have fun with ;)
/r/TheRedPill25/09/24 10:19 AM
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I think what we are seeing is what "not taking responsibility for your sexuality" looks like in men. They want it without putting in any effort, as convenient and safe as possible. As convenient and risk free as pushing a button in an app. This route really ends up in staying at home masturbating for both sexes, no effort and no risk! You don't want McDonald's sex. Grooming and Game is the cooking process for a fine meal.
/r/TheRedPill25/09/24 10:12 AM
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Yep. And have parties at your cool apartment. The most efficient sexual strategy is to have boozy and fun afterparties at your place. I used to rent some space in a cellar in the city. Had a lot of fun there, had a lot of girls there. Expensive but really, really fun.
/r/TheRedPill23/09/24 03:02 PM
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Yup, not worth thinking about much. Just carry a retort to use if someone criticizes you. I think the energy of agree and escalate like above "yes they ARE easier to manipulate and tighter and skinnier too" or the "Yeah, well I'm a really bad man" direction.
/r/TheRedPill23/09/24 02:23 PM
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Women have a complex relationship with their sexuality. There is an agency in "women who want to fuck will find a way to fuck" that does not ring true. Women mostly go with the flow and doesn't make active decisions about sex. Don't wait around for her to choose you, she doesn't choose anything, she just does. Also women have a strong distinction between appropriate and inappropriate. How will she behave in an appropriate relationship?
/r/TheRedPill23/09/24 01:37 PM
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And those guys like it. Sounds like a good strategy on both sides.
/r/TheRedPill23/09/24 01:14 PM
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Lol, so your saying that boomers should have taught their girls how to be attractive to YOU. Walking around and blaming boomers isn't a good sexual strategy. Sounds like tatted guys got the right strategy, why aren't you copying them?
/r/TheRedPill23/09/24 01:13 PM
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"Replacement for developing a personality" If i have learned anything from reddit, it's that nothing counts as having a personality. Honestly, complaining about others attempt to "get a personality" is just being a crab in a bucket.
/r/TheRedPill23/09/24 01:08 PM
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Absolutely unhinged, you need to spend more time offline with regular people.
/r/TheRedPill23/09/24 01:04 PM
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They think tattoos are cool and looks good, obviously, have you never met a real person before? why are you thinking about this so much? Would you really say no to a hot body if it had tattoos? And what is going on in the comments? Is TheRedPill afraid of tattoos? You're never going to break your good-boy-syndrome like that.
/r/TheRedPill23/09/24 01:00 PM
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Nah, it's just the end of that relationship. You don't need to overthink it. One of you can't balance their self image as a good, decent person and their indecent sexuality. Being married is only strengthening the good, decent person side.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 09:31 AM
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Sex dies out in all relationships, it's just that the good boys stick around.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 09:54 PM
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Mostly agree, i don't see submissive men being disrespected in the local BDSM community. Just that a large chunk of women that aren't specifically attracted to that. Disagree that there would be more submissive women than dominant men though, in all almost all sexual subcategories there are more men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 06:16 PM
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I think they catch up quickly. All the usual relationship difficulties will come at them quickly but they'll also resolve them quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 02:04 PM
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Like if pubs are closed, sounds like an excellent time to arrange some sort of speak-easy situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:15 PM
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If spaces are so shit, host your own stuff. Best thing I ever did was renting a room in a basement and held after works there. Previous tenant met a hundred chicks there.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:13 PM
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Check out British panel shows. They're chock full of banter.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 09:49 AM
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Yes, that happens. There are ofcourse men who are soo ugly that most women will say no to him. But with social skills, there will be one women somewhere at sometime that falls for that. Not necessarily a supermodel, you brought that into the discussion to try and move the goalposts. There is a gray area of how you look that is not attractive or ugly. You said there is a threshold where you go from the gray area to good looking, now you are changing the discussion to the ugly area.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:50 AM
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Yes, that happens. But the more common situation is there are good-looking girls sleeping with less-than-good-looking men because they are funny, cheeky and or dominant.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:35 AM
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Yes. Some women are really into a certain personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:23 AM
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Yes, i have observed this. Though that situation does not lead to romantic attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:13 AM
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I disagree with P2. Sexual attraction can be found just on how somebody carries themselves around others and oftenly the "threshold" concerns both physical appearance and social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:09 AM
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Most of those have had no impact on dating, neither bad or good. Flowers are always appreciated. Good banter/teasing is a turn on for a lot of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 12:33 PM
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"not someone i would hookup with" sounds like "not someone i would have sex with". What i think she meant is "not someone she would JUST hookup with but ALSO marry".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 05:01 PM
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I think you and her are both seeing it as she meant "Only casual sex" and marriage being "Casual sex and more". She didn't frame it like that though and should really have clarified that part to her boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 04:43 PM
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Why do people ride dangerous rollercoasters when the safe parkbench is a much more rational choice?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 02:42 PM
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It's all about the good boy syndrome. We are raised that we should be good boys and how to get good boy points. Turns out good boy points aren't worth anything in the sex store. And boys are so scared of risking good boy points. The way you are describing it as threading the needle is all about how can you be a sexual person without risking your good boy points.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:00 PM
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I agree with you. The only ones who seem to care are the ones not getting laid (enough). Seems to me they spin this narrative as a coping mechanism. Body count, promiscuity, population decline, all in the same basket of cope narrative. Also, i've never met a woman who cares how much money i make.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 09:54 AM
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There's more? Isn't "arguing" with you enough? Well then, make a statement about evolutionary psychology in humans and prove it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 03:25 PM
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Don't want to discuss like adults? You're acting as if you have a crush on me. I've met brats worse than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 02:58 PM
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I have more opinions if you love them: If you'd act like an adult just once, you might get an adult reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 02:34 PM
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Yeah I can recommend "Evo psych today: I'm trying to be sarcastic and funny online, but my life is still going nowhere" written by, huh look at that, it's you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 08:51 AM
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Yes there is physical evidence for physical evolution. You can literally follow the evolution of the tail for example and show that tails had a evolutionary benefit and that is why some animals have tails today, we can also see some traits that have no benefit but still shows up in contemporary humans, like the blind spot. Psychology doesn't leave behind any evidence. There is writing, of course, but the time scale for evolution is much larger so it can't say much.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 09:37 PM
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"All it’s saying is that, at one time, it was evolutionarily beneficial." Again the only evidence for this is that 'it' is widespread today, and there it goes in circles. "based on the idea that" = idealistic. There is no basis in evidence. While I think its an interesting topic, I don't think people should make life decisions about themselves or others based on it. Because it doesn't have a solid foundation you can use evolutionary psychology to argue for almost anything, specifically you can u…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 03:49 PM
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The problem with evolutionary psychology is that it's often a tautology. Women today are X because it is evolutionary beneficial, X must be evolutionary beneficial because women today are X. And the psychology part has the problem that there are no evidence for the evolution of our psychology, we can't know what we were like psychologically thousands of years ago as it isn't preserved. Evolutionary psychology is an idealistic philosophy that thinks it is a materialistic science.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 12:22 PM
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At least the recieved messages is written by a guy. ^
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 09:27 AM
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It's happened to three friends and three friend of friends. It's not too uncommon. Not as common as sexual assault though. It's not about people being bad, it's about people not being able to handle their feelings of abandonment.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 10:46 AM
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Know your rights, read up on defamation and arbitration. Make sure you know your way around the justice system. In most places it's not legal to say someone is a rapist in a way that damages their reputation. It's easy to falsely accuse someone of rape but much harder to get someone falsely convict someone of rape. The first part should keep everything behind closed doors and if your innocent you'll most likely be fine. Two practical tips: Make sure she's participating, like getting on top, it's…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 10:38 AM
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It's just catastrophizing. Women tend to overestimate the consequences of things. Absolute funniest example was a post on a certain feminist-leaning sub about how this year she would leave all the thanksgiving planning to her husband and see how he will manage it. Edit #1 was like "He haven't even started cleaning the floors!", second edit: "He have forgotten to take the hotdogs out of the freezer!" end then the last edit "huh, Everyone had a good time and the evening was a success. Nobody cared…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 11:14 AM
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It's called catastrophizing. Labor doesn't get done? everybody dies!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 11:06 AM
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Yeah, I see. But she doesn't really say that there was no attraction from the start and then it appeared over time. To me, it reads like that there was some attraction and they just hadn't had the opportunity interact 1 on 1 yet. Is that right @frogsgoribbit737 ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 08:48 PM
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I was thinking of the drugs that has lowered libido as a side effect, like finasterid. Less horny and keep your hair, perfect! I just keep seeing men who say they have given up on women yet keep talking about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 04:19 PM
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Nah, that is very unusual. If your personality isn't attractive right out of the gate then it won't suddenly become that later. I can't imagine a personality that would be "attractive in the long run". I can see some personality traits that gets unattractive over time though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 04:02 PM
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As is their prerogative, and I think it should be a viable option (They should really look into any of the drugs that lowers sex drive). But there is still a long way to go before we hit a 50/50 split on the dating scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 03:50 PM
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Don't try to figure out how TikTok sketches relates to real life, they don't. Also people on Reddit are dumb and say dumb stuff, don't try to figure that out. IRL is where things are, learn to see green flags and flow around until you hit a green flag. Women know within minutes if they're interested, being their friend for months won't suddenly change that. But friends are great for finding other women, so be open for friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 03:24 PM
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What I mean with women sitting things out is that there are a lot of women that aren't interested in the dating scene in any given moment, so as a man you have to pursue and woo or someone else will.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 02:55 PM
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Almost right, you're right that women no longer rely on a man's income, thus being a "Man who can be relied upon for income" is no longer a viable strategy. But you make an incorrect connection between this and pursuing/wooing. The onus of initiative is on men because a lot of women are fine sitting things out.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 01:13 PM
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Have you opened up about your feelings and showed vulnerability? It can be hard to always feel like you're the crazy one.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 09:38 AM
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There should be some link in the sidebar so everyone can be like "Yes we know, read the sidebar" when these posts come along. Men only complain about sluts when they aren't being slutty with them, they're calling sluts sour grapes because there aren't enough to go around. Men need to face that they will need to cater to women or come to terms with a sexless life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 06:27 PM
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Like. Not only is it obvious from observations in real life, it's also supported by a bunch of research papers. Let's look at some of the top posts on this sub right now: "If the game itself is not fair, does it justify not playing fair to get what you want?" - Here its relevant because it would explain why it feels unfair. "Women, have you ever been approached by a stranger in public (outside of a bar, college campus, or party) that you would consider dating?"- Here we are likely to see differe…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 05:42 PM
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Why are people so offended by men having a bigger apatite for sex? It's just a fact, no ones is judged, no one is devalued.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:40 PM
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This is the landscape we have to navigate. You can either be bitter and sexless or realize that you will need to put time and effort into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 02:04 PM
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The real answer is to not take it to heart. Realize that most people, especially online, are idiots and have no idea what they're talking about. Just smile and nod, make an interpretation that suits you like "They say they don't want to be approached by men. But what they really mean is fuckbois, and i'm not so i can still approach".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 10:54 AM
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Interesting, is there anywhere one can read more about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 10:38 AM
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As some other posters has pointed out, this is mostly an online thing. But the dynamic is certainly present there. If someone writes into their profile "Don't DM me" it's only going to stop the people reading your profile and cares from DM'ing. What it means for you: Its not a puzzle worth solving. Don't get offended over things like this or take to seriously what people say, most people are idiots anyway. Flow around and stay where you feel welcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 10:36 AM
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In retrospect I should have moved to London. I have been debating this topic with myself for quite some time and my conclusion is that bigger cities are better. On the one hand, it shouldn't matter since supply and demand should remain constant as the population just scales up. But if you look at it from a Stable Marriage Algorithm perspective, you can say that you should match up with a partner closer to your ideal, higher up on your standards. The bigger population the more niched your partner…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 07:50 AM
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It's easy if you're not a coward. It's also easier to make life changes if you change scenery.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 07:26 AM
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I think your thoughts about BENEVOLENT MASCULINITY are the strongest, like asking around on social media what people think about benevolent masculinity and get people thinking about that could help some people get a perspective on it. It's better to give boys an idea of what to do rather than what not to do. Actually, the current discourse on toxic masculinity, what not to do, will tell you that you can't do anything really. If we instead would talk about benevolent masculinity, it would likely …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 10:43 AM
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Women don't make active decisions when it comes to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 09:53 AM
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I think a lot of men is in a conflict with themselves. They see other men stealing out of the cookie jar and starts ranting about the jars instead of thinking maybe the cookie rules isn't what they thought. They should go find their sex-on-the-first-date-woman instead of being mad this one isn't like that anymore. They should go for the one that is in her "Giving her best self" stage.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 09:38 AM
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If your relationship faces the "I don't want to do these things with you" obstacle, you should first ask "Is there anyway we can workshop these things so that everyone enjoys them?", if not you should ask "Is there anything else we would rather do, that we might even enjoy more?", if not you should ask "Can we do this on our own separately?", if not then it might be a relationship ending obstacle. If you are single, you should try to find dates that are open and curious to the things you want to…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 09:21 AM
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You're sentiment is right. Both should enjoy the things you are doing together. Going back to the original post, if your relationship faces the "I don't want to do these things with you" obstacle, you should first ask "Is there anyway we can workshop these things so that everyone enjoys them?", if not you should ask "Is there anything else we would rather do, that we might even enjoy more?", if not you should ask "Can we do this on our own separately?", if not then it might be a relationship end…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 09:20 AM
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What I mean with "Absolutely, but anything harmless." is to go back to the question "If you love someone wouldn't you want to give that person everything and make them feel like the luckiest person alive?" but conceding that maybe everything is unreasonable. Instead rephrase the question to everything harmless. I disagree that doing harmless things to make your loved one happy is a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 08:37 AM
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like this: If you love someone wouldn't you want to give that person everything [harmless] and make them feel like the luckiest person alive?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 07:54 AM
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Not unsatisfied, but I have some plans. I'm going to look into attachment theory to see if there are some ways for me to become more secure. I'm going to expand my photography hobby, inviting women to be models. We will flirt with some of them. I'm going to hold subculture meet-ups, at least we'll find more friends and there may be some occasional women to flirt with. I got three specifically interesting women invited, we'll see if they show up. I'm going to attend bigger events in bigger cities…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 07:21 AM
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Absolutely, but anything harmless.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 06:44 AM
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Follow up question, would you let them do it to someone else? Alternatively, if you love someone wouldn't you want to give that person everything and make them feel like the luckiest person alive?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 12:07 PM
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I\ve had an interesting thought about this. Lets say women are very Impressionable/Empathic. If they meet someone who feels uncertain/unsafe, like a bully victim, They'll feel uncertain/unsafe. If they meet someone who carry the emotion of certainty/safe (Regardless of what that one SHOULD be feeling), they'll feel certain and safe too. What causes the feelings is irrelevant. In this idea a narcissist being certain and confident from disillusion will still inspire certainty and safety. Someone b…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 06:46 AM
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Well if you know this and is one of the hypersexual men you might consider getting a haircut before the night out to increase your chances a bit, while if you're one of the women you probably wouldn't worry about your chances at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 12:29 PM
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Only if you put some inherent value in horniness. One can discuss sexual trends among groups of people without saying anyone is a lesser human. Asexuals are equals to hypersexuals. Consider a night at a club where there are more hypersexual hetero men than hypersexual hetero women. Surely this is going to affect the dynamic between the two groups?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 11:38 AM
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I think it's important for understanding the bigger picture of sexual society.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 10:59 AM
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Because there is an abundance of horny men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 10:49 AM
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I think it's better to say that you are beautiful in different ways at different ages. And your appeal changes. 40 year olds and 20 year olds are beautiful in different ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 10:45 AM
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What are the consequences?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 08:04 AM
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Well, in a long term relationship I wouldn't want to be treated less than any of her previous partners. Like we should both give eachother our best.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 01:42 PM
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I think one thing is that now women can date and marry without their fathers approval. Which means that traits that impress the father, like jobb stability and jobb self-sacrifice, becomes less important. Some men are still spending so much time trying to impress the father (Slaving away in a patriarchal work environment), while they should be trying to impress the daughter (Doing expressive things like art, dancing and music)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 05:29 PM
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But don't isolate yourself. Stay in the flow of things and do things with people.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 11:40 AM
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People want to be their partners number 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 11:37 AM
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To begin with what people mean with Toxic Masculinity is all over the place. Which basically means you can interpret it however you like and can disagree whether things are or aren't toxic. But here: "Be toxic but find someone who loves you, or be soft and sensitive and die alone. " Toxic and soft aren't opposites. There is ways to be that is neither toxic nor soft. People lump traits together in an association fallacy. Hitler being a vegan doesn't make vegans Nazis. A man that hits his wife and…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 11:24 AM
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Geographic location can really be quite important, it might be local dating culture that seperates our views. A few months to a year for most of them. When i think about it i might be the highest earning bachelor in my agegroup in my city. I don't feel like it affects my dating life much, i can just afford more and better opportunities.
/r/MensRights24/09/22 02:22 PM
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I don't know, I have seen women together with guys without a job. It's not that rare. Also, of the women i've dated only one has been interested in what i do for a living.
/r/MensRights24/09/22 09:11 AM
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Yeah, i was being unnecessarily dramatic. I was thinking of finding someone new, but there is sometimes other ways.
/r/MensRights23/09/22 07:48 PM
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Mr Millard is right, men have lost sexual bargaining chips. But thats good since sexual bargaining is sketchy. And for the other part, what?
/r/MensRights23/09/22 07:46 PM
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I think this is a reply to me. I guess we have seen different things and i agree that the relationship dynamic you're describing is, with simpler terms, absolutely nuts.
/r/MensRights23/09/22 02:47 PM
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I think it's good that women don't need to suck a dick to be safe anymore (in simple terms). I think the idea that a job should give sexual benefits is made up and perpetuated by men who sacrifice their life working (for other men).
/r/MensRights23/09/22 02:44 PM
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Yes, sex as a trade-off is a recipe for disaster. And sex is important (for many men) in relationships. Though the idea of sex being withhold is crooked. To me sex being withhold would mean that both parties want to have sex but one side avoids it. What's more common is a loss of desire on one side (which usually has only one solution)
/r/MensRights23/09/22 02:24 PM
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interesting read, but it doesn't quite align with my personal experiences. I have had sexual relationships without any transfer of resources and most women i know isn't particularly concerned with resource transfers either. I'm not sure if really EVERYTHING can be seen as a resource like that either, particularly if both parties want it. For example relationship commitment and loyalty is something usually both parties want. I have never quite seen commitment traded for sex (man gets sex, woman g…
/r/MensRights23/09/22 02:07 PM
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