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| – | There is roughly a 50/50 gender ratio so why are so many men having trouble finding a SINGLE girlfriend ?If every guy had access to sex like women do, the average man would probably have 100+ partners. We know this because we can look at the gay community. There was a study in the 1980s on gay men sexual lives that found half the gay men in a study with over 200 lifetime sexual partners. It was some unbelievable number. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/23 04:15 PM |
| – | There is roughly a 50/50 gender ratio so why are so many men having trouble finding a SINGLE girlfriend ?Most men don't want to be a bachelor forever. You get to the age when all your friends are married with kids and they want to do things with other families and are not going to do as much single guy stuff. It feels like a lonely place to be in that position. Most of these guys either eventually marrry to settle into a long term relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/23 02:08 PM |
| – | There is roughly a 50/50 gender ratio so why are so many men having trouble finding a SINGLE girlfriend ?My ex had a good friend who was short, very overweight, had severe emotionaly problems, hardcore feminist who absolutely resented men, bully, and narcissist of a person- she slept with over 50 guys she met mostly on Hinge. The ones I saw pictures of were generally way better looking than her with most being over 6 foot and none of them being remotely as close to fat as she is. In no fucking world could her male equivalent pull of sleeping with even 50 below average attractivness women unless the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/23 02:00 PM |
| – | There is roughly a 50/50 gender ratio so why are so many men having trouble finding a SINGLE girlfriend ?Whatever the exact percentile, the general rule that the success is disproportionally kept at the top is still happening. Some of the 'studs' I know have body counts well over 100 while many of the average to below average friends have counts lower than 10 or 5. Maybe its a 70:25 rule. The exact number aside, it describes what is happening fairly accurately. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/23 01:57 PM |
| – | There is roughly a 50/50 gender ratio so why are so many men having trouble finding a SINGLE girlfriend ?Most of the 'single' women I know are still enjoying casual sex and dating, even if they are not in a relationship. These women are single, but they can effortlessly enjoy the benefits that come from having a relationship like sex and dates while these are much harder to come by for most single men. A woman who is in the bottom 20% of attractiveness could easily have sex with 10 new above average guys each week if she wants to. The percent of men who can get sex with relatively low effort is pro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/23 01:49 PM |
| – | Is the 80/20 rule real?I think dating is hard for men. The AVERAGE woman in America is a size 16 and 2 out of 3 women are overweight, with 4 in 10 being so overweight they are obese. Those stats are from at least 3 years ago and may now be even worse. My personal experience has taught me that almost women regardless of how undesirable she actually is, will refuse to accept that they are either average or below average. Look at the massive increase of childless never married women. I have seen several efforts to sample… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/23 06:39 AM |
| – | How is it that some people see being used for sex as sexually liberating?Because this is what feminism preaches. Damaging and ridiculous behaviors are now 'empowering' because she chose to do them. She did what she wanted and wasn't constrained by the patriarchal norms of modesy or sexual restraint. That is the logic of these feminists. Personally I think that is the logic of a person who has lost the ability to reason like a sensible person. The women do this because they like sex just like men do. Also it is a way of women to never have to admit that they got used.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/23 03:25 PM |
| – | Why does this sub look at men willing to date single moms so negatively?The guys have a point and I cannot imagine that I would be willing to get involved with a single mother for the same reasons. Being dad to someone elses kid with a woman who has already shown she doesn't want to or refuses to make it work with the father, even though doing so would probably benefit the child. If she bailed on the dad, the next guy probably isn't a big deal for her to dumb for any reason. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/23 03:20 PM |
| – | Ever notice how it's always AI girlfriends in the news? Why not AI boyfriends?It reflects the media bias against men. There have been studies that show the bias against men in terms of tragedies. One study showed that when the perpetrator of an incident is male the gender is more likely to be identified than if the perpetrator is a female. This same study found that when the victims were male the gender of the victims was less likely to be identified than if it women were the primary victim. I do not have a link for it, but the results would go right along with what I was… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/23 03:18 PM |
| – | Ever notice how it's always AI girlfriends in the news? Why not AI boyfriends?I think both of them are very non-existent in the real world. I think men watch adult videos to get themselves off, but I would be stunned if more than 1 in 1000 men is into AI girlfriends. I would be stunned if anywhere near that for women and AI boyfriends was a thing. I think this is one of those things the media claims is true that just really isn't. I think it might be the media talking about mens issues in ways that make men look ridiculous and creepy if I had to take my best guess why the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/23 02:29 PM |
| – | Women have a zero tolerance policy when it comes to socially awkward menYou cannot join a sports league and talk to women? Join a club? Go to museums or social places? Have casual conversations with someone in a library? None of these are rocket science. Unless you live in the middle of a forest with bears, to which point I would wonder how you have an internet connection, you can meet women somewhere. Not talking about landing on the moon here level difficulty | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/23 02:26 PM |
| – | Women have a zero tolerance policy when it comes to socially awkward menThen try different things to be less awkward and eventually you get a better idea of how to not do that. At that point you can then take further steps forward. Its not giving men a chance to practise. It is just talking about anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/23 02:07 PM |
| – | Women have a zero tolerance policy when it comes to socially awkward menThe kid in the deep end will be a better swimmer because its either that or drown. I have met good looking guys who had no social skills because they were shy or whatever the reason. I have seen average dudes who have great game. Communication skills make the world of difference. I bet many Chads could swith bodies with an average dude and still meet women because there is more to being Chad than a body. Its about confidence swagger, game, charisma. Looks won't help any of those | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/23 02:06 PM |
| – | Women have a zero tolerance policy when it comes to socially awkward menDriving a old car isn 't the same as an FI supercar, but if you can't drive the old car you have about zero chance of being able to operate a FI effectively. Its my analogy exactly- if you cannot just talk to a random woman in a non-romantic context doing so in a romantic context will be that much harder. Your comment about men not being able to learn or that women won't talk to men is just not true. Go to an art museum and see people there and just make a passing comment about a painting to a w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/23 02:03 PM |
| – | Ever notice how it's always AI girlfriends in the news? Why not AI boyfriends?Guys will typically have little problem telling other guys the depraved pornography they are into. Is it any less embarrassing to say you watch hentai tenticle porn than have a AI girlfriend? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/23 01:55 PM |
| – | Women have a zero tolerance policy when it comes to socially awkward menI can think of a friend who was 6'3, athletic build, and better than average face, and this dude could not get a date to save his life. He had no ability to talk to women and would either freeze or sound like an idiot, and not ain charismatic way. He wasn't 'Chad' but he was absolutely above average looks and it do a damn thing for him because he didn't have social skills. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/23 01:53 PM |
| – | Women have a zero tolerance policy when it comes to socially awkward menI get frustrated with that mentality. You have threads with guys asking about why they can't meet women. My response is that dating as a man in your 20s sucks and the best thing to do with improve your life iin other areas and dating with eventually come with it. The responses I usually get are along the lines of 'that takes too long'. My comment on learning better commuication skills to meet women in person and get off the apps. so often my comments get the same crap about how its too tough and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/23 12:56 PM |
| – | Women have a zero tolerance policy when it comes to socially awkward menWomen don't like these men, but these skills can be learned by men. It isn't an easy thing and will require practice. I think men who come across as awkward just need to talk to people and talk to women. Talk to the 60 year old librarian just to be more comfortable talking with a woman. Talk to women at school or those you meet in public. It will get easier with repetition and make it easier when you want to pursue a woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/23 12:39 PM |
| – | Is the 80/20 rule real?Many men overestimate themselves. I think it is nowhere near as bad as women based on men liking like 40% of dating profiles while women like less than 10%. I have never met a below average attractivness guy think he was a 10. Who knows. People find out reality regardless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/23 12:12 PM |
| – | Women do get rejected by menYou are correct that men who offer nothing can be very effective towards women (crimials fuckboys, etc.). These are guys who have hijacked a lot of the aspects of successful men without offering the substance. Its like fuckboys whose lives are a trainwreck yet sleep with attractive women. They put up symbols and primers of things like confidence, dominance, masculinity, and are usually at least decent looking. Most very confident men I have ever met are successful. Most wealthy men are emotional… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/23 11:26 AM |
| 8 | Is the 80/20 rule real?Yeah women do the best they think they can. The issue comes when women who are nowhere near the top 20% of women in desirability think they are going to get a top 20% man. In my experience it seems many below average women think they deserve a top 20% man and become upset as their dating experiences show this not to be true Women can try to get the best person they can and when they expect too much they will find out that they get men for dates and sex, but relationships will be much harder. Mos… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/23 08:23 AM |
| 2 | Is the 80/20 rule real?I agree that OLD makes everything worse. I argue that men should get off of these apps and meet women in the real world. In my experience the women not on the apps are generally of higher quality and have more reasonable expectations. The apps try to make people have unreasonable expectations because it will keep them on the apps longer and lead to more profits for the companies. OLD gives very false perceptions of reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/23 08:18 AM |
| – | CMV - if you don’t have a strong social circle, you have no right to complain about the dating market being unfairMany people have social circles that are better for their personal growth than elevating their dating life. If I spend my time with men older than me who teach me things to help me learn and elevate my career, I get great friends who make me a better person. They just don't help with dating. Also if a person is single but has mostly married friends, that isn't particularly helpful. You assume that ANY social circle will help your dating life when many will either do nothing or make it worse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/23 08:14 AM |
| 6 | Is the 80/20 rule real?I'm over 30 and have done an excercise many times of asking the chronically single women in my social circles who complain about their dating life, what it is they are looking for in a partner. I do this just as a curiosity as nonjudgemental as possible. I am talking about women late 20s to mid 30s. The answers I get are just unbelievable. It doesn't matter if the woman is 100 pounds overweight or as hideous as a scarecrow, I rarely find that these women list what they want in a man characterist… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/23 06:57 AM |
| 11 | Is the 80/20 rule real?Those 20% are a foot in the door to see what happens. Long way from anything happening but a chance for something. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/23 06:50 AM |
| – | Ever notice how it's always AI girlfriends in the news? Why not AI boyfriends?These stories are hysteria in action. I don't know of a single guy who has an AI girlfriend. I have never met one and I think it is just a small fraction of 1% of men who do, if that. Its like when Onlyfans came out and the media sold it like any woman who opens one is gong to be rich. Less than 1% of the women got rich and most made less than 30 dollars a month. The 'AI girlfriend' epidemic feels like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/23 06:39 AM |
| 1 | Women do get rejected by menWhat was misogynistic about it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/23 06:37 AM |
| 2 | Women do get rejected by menSociety does not value men for anything we are, its only what we do and what use we have. That is not self-defeating. If anything it is a call to do something with your life and create something because nobody else is going to do it. Be a man who has nothing going for him in life and nobody but your family will lift you up. Its a cold truth but not one we should despair. We are capable of action and making ourselves of value. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/23 06:36 AM |
| – | Do average men have situationships?When stats show like 2/3 men in their 20s are either single or have zero interest in dating, I wonder what the term 'average' means. I think that better looking guys are much more likely to be the 1/3 men that age who are involved because they are far more likely to have success and be reinforced for their efforts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/23 06:21 AM |
| – | Why does this sub look at men willing to date single moms so negatively?I think the demonizing of single mothers is a little over the top. Most of them are trying hard to raise their kids in what is a tough situation. For men its also a difficult situation to date one because inevitably as the relationship grows you as the man will be in a complicated situation. If the baby daddy is involved you will probably come into conflict with him. If the dad is not in the picture you will probably be taking on some father figure roles of watching the kid and financial support… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/23 05:49 AM |
| – | Domestic violence would he reduced if men internalized the "she's not yours , it's just your turn" mantraI think its about going after the right type of men. If a guy has a high body count and goes a long time between relationships, or is cheating during his, it shows that he has many options of women who are interested, but he would rather enjoy sleeping around than have an actual relationship. Look for men who are stable monogamists and who show signs that they are legitimate. Does he do what he says he will? Is he interested in going on actual dates and not just seeing if you want to come over a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/23 05:41 AM |
| – | If you plan on having multiple simultaneous sexual partners, you should disclose that fact to all of themMost men with an ounce of self respect will not take a woman seriously for a relationship if she is sleeping with other men at the same time as you. I would not call that a 'secret preference'. It's pretty normal for almost any guy I have ever met. I would not say those 2 are incompatible in that sense of the world. Not liking someones actions doesn't make you incompatible other than someone not putting up with certain behaviors. She is not responsible for his views is a kind of ridiculous state… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/23 05:30 AM |
| 1 | If you plan on having multiple simultaneous sexual partners, you should disclose that fact to all of themWanting an exclusive relationship is solving the problem for her wanting him; that is very different that taking responsibility for the fact that she close to be sleeping with other guys at the same time and how this behavior could rightfully be viewed negatively. Its like if water line at someones house breaks because the person fixing it screwed up and didn't close a valve. That peson can come back and try to fix the damage caused by the screw up, but that isn't the same as admitting responsib… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 01:25 AM |
| 1 | Are women who criticize age gap relationships, unintentionally the cause of them?I think it is just a situation of them seeing men liking younger women as a threat to them and not in thier interest. The married women over 30+ I know have made negative comments on the topic the few times I remember it coming up. For married women it is a little different because their position is more secure than that of a single 30 year old, but if their husbandshad a preference for younger women, it would be a threat to their marriage and him staying faithful. I think in sports, business, l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 01:21 AM |
| 3 | Domestic violence would he reduced if men internalized the "she's not yours , it's just your turn" mantraYou probably would make some guy very happy. Men want a woman who wants to be cared about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 12:19 PM |
| 1 | Many women, by believing in "their worth", believe unattractive men aren't worthy enough, which is kind of a contradictioni don't know if the exact numbers are correct there. i think that from what I have seen with women I have known, very few women will admit to being average or below average. Tell any woman she is average and you are not likely to make her very happy (even if she is way below average in reality). I read one study that seemed to be decent trying to get a statistical breakdown of likes. They found that only 5% of the likes women gave to men who were below average, meaning 50% or half of all male pr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 12:18 PM |
| 1 | If you plan on having multiple simultaneous sexual partners, you should disclose that fact to all of themNo its taking responsibility for her behavior that would be viewed as repulsive by many men who are looking for a commited relationship. Instead of a reasonable acknowledgment that her continuing to sleep with multiple other people at the same time as this guy, could very reasonably be viewed as unattractive, people on that forum would rather act like the guy is a piece of shit for not wanting to be in a commited relationship with a woman who could be having sex with other guys the same day he i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 12:05 PM |
| 0 | Domestic violence would he reduced if men internalized the "she's not yours , it's just your turn" mantraThere is a degree of loving a woman and feeling some sense of attachment to her and a toxic level of possessiveness. The reality is that a man who feels none of these things for a woman is a man who will not marry her, will not provide for her, and will not protect her. Women don'l seem to get this. They want a man to make her his everything but any sense of possessiveness in wanting her for himself is apparently wrong. A man who has no sense of that is a man who has sex with you and never talks… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 09:59 AM |
| 1 | Domestic violence would he reduced if men internalized the "she's not yours , it's just your turn" mantraHow pervasive abuse actually is, is a question I have. Met so many women in my life who claim exes were abusive based on questionable criteria. Amber Heard admitted hitting Johney Depp and insults and mocks him over it while writting an op ed about how she is an abuse victim. Claiming to be an abuse victim for women is almost a social fad at this point. Among feminists its practically a requirement to come up with ways every man has oppressed and abused you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 09:56 AM |
| 5 | Domestic violence would he reduced if men internalized the "she's not yours , it's just your turn" mantraThe percent of women killed by their husbands or intimate partners with the most recent data i could find for 2021 shows that about 1650 women were murdered in the United States that year- where the population is 340 million. Basically you want to equate everyday men with these murderers when the data show how astronically rare they are. Sounds like another excuse to attack all men and label all men as negatively as possible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 09:52 AM |
| 4 | Domestic violence would he reduced if men internalized the "she's not yours , it's just your turn" mantraThe number of women killed in this way is very low overall, meaning that the degree that it happens is exagerated. Men account for approximately 70% of murder victims, just for some perspective. Part of being emotionally connected to women is men feeling a sense of wanting her for herself. Look at how Onlyfans women find thier fans revolting and don't want to date them because they find the idea that these men being okay with her showing herself to the world as being very unsexy. There is a diff… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 09:47 AM |
| 1 | If you plan on having multiple simultaneous sexual partners, you should disclose that fact to all of themI say this because of conversation with female frineds of mine showing reluctance to refer to these encounters they have had with dates as 'hookups', with a distain like that makes them cheap or easy. I agree that the logic isn't sound, but from the conversations I think that is to some extent what is happening. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 06:54 AM |
| 1 | If you plan on having multiple simultaneous sexual partners, you should disclose that fact to all of themUsually people talk before going on a date or hook up. Be it 30 minutes or a a week. I was saying that I think they view it as leading to something else and would classify it as sleeping with a guy they are currently seeing based on probing you a bit with if you plan on seeing them again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 06:45 AM |
| 1 | If you plan on having multiple simultaneous sexual partners, you should disclose that fact to all of themMy point is that I don't think the women view it as casual sex in the context of a first date if they feel comfortable that there is some connection and a second date is coming. At least many of the women I have seemed too. Or maybe thats how i interpreted it as. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 06:20 AM |
| 4 | When did “fragile male ego” become the number 1 most used feminist insult?I've argued this so many times. I ask specifically what laws are oppressing them, and how is it most social problems are mostly affecting men. Thats the point. They cannot even define "the patriarchy", or even make sense of how a society could be built by men for men, yet have men suffer most problems or have men get 63% longer prison sentences for the same charges than women- from courts that are state institutions. These women have been told they are victims and oppressed and they will look ar… | /r/MensRights | 28/09/23 06:09 AM |
| 2 | When did “fragile male ego” become the number 1 most used feminist insult?Because it is an attempt to shame or insult you rather than having to actually have a discussion or defend a point. They are taking the ground of moral superiority by reducing you to just some 'whiny child' who is only upset about your emotions from something trivial. It is bad faith argument for someone who has no intention to actually have a discussion | /r/MensRights | 28/09/23 06:05 AM |
| 1 | How come women only complain about older guys?If she things the guy is attractive and boasts her self-esteem its welcome, if she doesn't its not. Most of the time its the identical behavior. Find a single post about a woman outraged that a gorgous man made her uncomfortable looking at her. You probably couldn't find one. | /r/MensRights | 28/09/23 05:49 AM |
| 1 | Are women who criticize age gap relationships, unintentionally the cause of them?The reasons I hear are that the men just want a naive young woman to exploit, men don't want a woman who can call us on our bullshit, men want a woman to manipulate, the young girls are so vulnerable. The reasons usually are along the lines of one of those things. I have debated the issue with women who at the same time as saying a 30 year old with a 21 year old women is exploitative, would defend an 18 year old woman out of high school making money on onlyfans as 'empowering'. I have fought the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 05:41 AM |
| 1 | Why do you think marriage for couples who were cohabiting before marriage do not last long.The date seems to show that living together for money reasons is a strong predictor of low marriage success. I think it is because of selection meaning that the most marriage minded people are not living together, and because many people living together get pushed into marriage for reasons other than necessarily wanting to be married. Living with someone makes life a challenge if a breakup occurs. Logistically and financially it is a nightmare to do, and usually it's never at a conventint time. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 04:26 AM |
| 1 | If you plan on having multiple simultaneous sexual partners, you should disclose that fact to all of themI hope our society can look at all this from a greater perspective sooner than later. We would be wise to address these issues now and not in 20 years when we have a whole generation of children from broken families and so many adults psychologally damaged from years of this lifestyle. We shall see | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 04:18 AM |
| 1 | Are women who criticize age gap relationships, unintentionally the cause of them?Its the double standard that women under 25 usually don't care about age gaps while women 30+ do have huge problem. A women in college 18-23 can date older guys who offer many things other than money that most of the guys her age do not have. These older men looking to date a 22 year old are usually smarter, better spoken, dress better, more ambitious, have more worldly experience and passions, and do more exciting things and activities compared to most men in their early 20s. The women in their… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 03:54 AM |
| 1 | Do you Cross the street when women Approach?Because I don't want to make a woman uncomfortable. She doesn't have to worry that I am predator and it just avoids any issues that I care to avoid considering there is nothing about interacting with the person that benefits me. | /r/MensRights | 28/09/23 03:41 AM |
| 1 | If you plan on having multiple simultaneous sexual partners, you should disclose that fact to all of themI think it is somewhat tribalism. 'Feminists versus red pill', type of stuff. I think women are probably more affected negatively by hook ups than men, based on psychology studies showing they on average regret them more, but men absolutely suffer a degree of personal damage. Also, the idea that women and men should be held to different standards for the same actions is jut a non starter for me. consisency is a must. People want validation and instant gratification. Concern for bigger issues lik… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 03:33 AM |
| 3 | Its called "hooking up" because in misogynist fashion, women are seen as an object to conquer, and not as actual partners.I agree. The nature of hookup apps isn't helping the situation. Women knowing that the men they want have options and trying to give him what he wants so he turns her into an exclusive option has not been good. Too many of the most desirable men use this model to get sex after a date or 2 and continue sleeping with a woman until she wants or demands more. If we went back to no sex before commitment, it would solve most of these issues. The men or women only looking for sex would only meet each o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 03:30 AM |
| 1 | Many women, by believing in "their worth", believe unattractive men aren't worthy enough, which is kind of a contradictionAny woman can get a commited relationshp with a man on her level very easily if she wanted too. If the only men she can get for a relationship are 'mediocre', that is because that reflects the level she is. The short term pleasure of women hooking up with lots of guys will change their brain wiring to be more seeking of the dopamine hits and less able to partner bond in a long term relationship. It is also due to the fact that women are sleeping with more desirable men, they will find that the r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 03:26 AM |
| 1 | The real reason men laud “players” and shame sluts is…I think a lot of men are jealous that sex comes easy to women, especially considering men with massivley higher testosterone have a much higher sex drive than women on average. I have spent much of my time in relationships and I was never a cheater. I have turned down women for sex while I was single because I didn't want them or the situation. Men view women with these numbers negatively because high value women don't have massive sex partner numbers. I cannot recall ever meeting a woman in any… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 03:19 AM |
| 1 | If you plan on having multiple simultaneous sexual partners, you should disclose that fact to all of themThe women who are doing that are playing with fire. Often times when the man finds out he bails on her, like the OP, or he just views her as nothing but a warm body to sleep with. I think this deception is digusting and shows someone to be a bad person, but it also is not likely to work on a logistical level. Trying to keep it all hidden from a guy is not likely to work if he is paying any attention. I don't view it as meaningfully different than cheating during a commited relationship because a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 03:11 AM |
| 1 | If you plan on having multiple simultaneous sexual partners, you should disclose that fact to all of themI find it actually shocking how we as a society don't seem to be willing to acknowledge this elephant in the room. The massive rise of single parent households in society has been a disaster. The fact that so many children are born from hookups and not-commited relationships is largely the reason for this increase. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 03:06 AM |
| 1 | If you plan on having multiple simultaneous sexual partners, you should disclose that fact to all of themJust for the sake of not wanting to catch a STD, the conversation makes sense. Espectially if a guy isn't using condoms, he should want some confidence that she isn't doing the same thing with other men. I sure as hell don't want to catch something, and especially something I would be stuck with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 03:04 AM |
| 2 | Its called "hooking up" because in misogynist fashion, women are seen as an object to conquer, and not as actual partners.The women are putting forward what is important to men early because men respond to that. The problem for women is when they think the sex and attention they are putting is leading to the greater connection she wants, while he just views it as fun. Several times women I have been casually having sex with in a freinds with benefits type arrangement has turned into relationships. I am not saying women use it as manipulation because women seem to enjoy sex also. Sex is creating the emotional connec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 03:02 AM |
| 1 | Its called "hooking up" because in misogynist fashion, women are seen as an object to conquer, and not as actual partners.Then why do women have rosters if they aren't into sex without commitment? Your argument makes no sense | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 02:58 AM |
| 1 | Its called "hooking up" because in misogynist fashion, women are seen as an object to conquer, and not as actual partners.Your argument that women are always 'tricked' into sex is a little off. The dating world has dynamics that have been studied by social psychology such as the male/female ration predicts sexual paterns within a structure. More men are on the dating apps than women, but most of these men are invisible to most of the women meaning that the pool of women is mostly looking for a limited pool of men. When women outnumber men, casual sex is much more common compared to when men outnumber women. If men … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 02:57 AM |
| 2 | What if another reason men are checking out of modern dating is the performance anxiety brought on by social media & "display" culture?I don't really buy the logic of the OP. A man can tell his girlfriend that he doesn't like to keep an online presence and he does not want pictures of himself posted at all or excessively. That or he can date women who are not addicted to social media. Both of those things would solve the issue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 02:49 AM |
| 1 | The real reason men laud “players” and shame sluts is…I agree that men are ridiculous if they want to have a very high body count and want women to not. I think that women get very damaged from hookup culture, but men do not get away damage free regardless of their biology and hormones. Society judges women for a body count because any women regardless of how unattractive she is can get a high count with better looking men very quickly. For a man to get a lot of partners, even less attractive women, takes some ability and him being skilled in some … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 02:46 AM |
| 1 | If you plan on having multiple simultaneous sexual partners, you should disclose that fact to all of themIt is not good for society. Just look at the rates of STDs and children living in single parent families. In the post sexual revolution and hookup era, we have more unplanned pregnancies now than we did prior to the invention of the birth control pill. Prior to the sexual revolution around 90% of children were born to married parents. Some of these were shotgun marriages, but the social expectation was that having a child out of wedlock was not acceptable. Modern hookup culture takes the sexual … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 02:34 AM |
| 2 | If you plan on having multiple simultaneous sexual partners, you should disclose that fact to all of themWomen having rotations is the absolute advice that other women give them. The only guys willing to be on a woman's roster are the guys who have no interest in a relationship or taking her seriously as an exclusive partner. A man trying to emotinally bond with a woman will typically find it on a gut level of be disgusting if the woman he is emotionally pursuing is having sex with other men during this time. Relationship oriented men typically see these roster women for what they are; not girlfrie… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 02:29 AM |
| 1 | If you plan on having multiple simultaneous sexual partners, you should disclose that fact to all of themI think that is because most of the time a woman will sleep with a guy on the first date or early on because she feels attracted to the person and wants more than just a one night stand. Not all women are like this but I think a lot more women prefer some emotional connection and intimacy with a partner than just meeting some random dude at his house to have sex. I think most stable women at least do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 02:24 AM |
| 1 | If you plan on having multiple simultaneous sexual partners, you should disclose that fact to all of themRegardless of an agreement or expectation of exclusivity, he has the right to be turned off by the fact that she is having sex with at least 1 differnt dude a week. Those are 2 different things. Many men just don't want to commit to women who think nothing of sleeping with a high number of people in a short time. Thats a major relationship red flag. He saw that flag and didn't want anything more to do with her. She should take responsibility that many people who want relationships will not find … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 02:22 AM |
| 3 | If you plan on having multiple simultaneous sexual partners, you should disclose that fact to all of themI will have that conversation out of safety for myself and her. If she is hooking up with other guys, especially if she isn't being safe, I have no desire to risk my health for that, nor would I feel comfortable putting her at risk. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 02:19 AM |
| 2 | If you plan on having multiple simultaneous sexual partners, you should disclose that fact to all of themThe guy was in the right. They were seeing each other non-exclusively, or 'casually', and he decided that he didn't like what she was doing and broke it off. He had no obligation to stick around. She had her choices of what she did and he had his choice of how to feel and what to do about it. Commiting to someone exclusively is a often a pre-cursor to a relationship. If I met a woman who I was liking and she is still banging other dudes AFTER we started, then I am going to exclude her from any c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 02:17 AM |
| -1 | Many women, by believing in "their worth", believe unattractive men aren't worthy enough, which is kind of a contradictionThese women have no logic they can fall back upon. They are simply repeating the things fellow women and feminists have told them their whole lives. The problem is that the dating world these women go through will reinforce this for some amount of time. Even the least attractive 30% of women will get attention and likes on dating apps. Many men way more attractive will go out with these women or try to sleep with them if they get the chance. I don't actually believe that most of these really una… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 02:05 AM |
| 1 | Many women, by believing in "their worth", believe unattractive men aren't worthy enough, which is kind of a contradictionI think what is happening is for many reasons women have elevated their dating expectations to delusional levels. For a woman to admit that she is a 4 but is looking for a 9 and up, is to admit that she is compeltely entitled. To get around this women create these schemas in their head that all women are 10s and their inherent amazing value. Look at body positivity and how these women think they are very attractive even though almost no men agree with that. The concept that women use to say they… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 01:59 AM |
| – | The problem with a lot of the tropes that dominate this sub is that few here can separate results from lifestyle.Call people vain, but people have a right to expect basic standards. I hit the gym and take care of myself while being in an exausting school program. I simply want someone who is willing to do close to the same. I don't think it is so much shallowness from men's perspective as it is being annoyed that it is so damn difficult for men to find women of similar quality on dating apps. You can say men overvalue themselves, and I will disagree and say that it is largely that women are so entitled tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/23 07:54 AM |
| – | Men, do you actually reject women for this reason?If a woman has had numerous partners and failed relationships, like 20+, men should start to be concerned because the chances that you are going to keep her happy unlike all of those men is pretty damn low. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/23 07:32 AM |
| – | Men, do you actually reject women for this reason?I have been more concerned the last few years, but I should have been concerned with this all along. In my experience, the more sexual partners women I have dated had generally correlated with a more unstable person. That is a politically incorrect truth. Stable women who do well in monogamous relationshiops generally don't have 30 or more sexual partnersWomen who have had that much are often psychologically unstable, overly feminist, love avoidant personality types, or don't value men or monoga… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/23 07:30 AM |
| 1 | Why should a man not date younger women given the opportunity?I have had no issues dating younger women, and most guys I know don't either. I like how you use the term"inexperience" in place of 'not-damaged'. Its not the inexperience of younger women that is attractive, its that they are typically far less damaged than 30+ women. The reason most of the married 30+ year old women are better is because they mostly didn't spend their 20s neck deep in hookup culture and then try and walk out of it being monogamous and adopt values that are the opposite of thos… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/23 03:56 AM |
| 1 | Why should a man not date younger women given the opportunity?You either don't listen to what I say, or twist it to mean what I don't say. I have never said to leave women before they hit a certain age. I have said that men should find a quality woman and try to keep her around, and yes that means past 30. Its not that men in their 20s 'failed', its that they were busy building their lives for the future. there is a phrase I heard once 'you spend a lot longer living older than you do young'. The average person lives to about 80 meaning that people spend a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/23 09:23 PM |
| – | Why should a man not date younger women given the opportunity?I would say that psychologically a 23 year old on average would be more emotionally healthy to have a loving relationship than the average 30 year old. I agree that psychological characterises predict things going forward. I think what is probably playing a bigger part of this is the fact that 30+ women have had many more hook-ups, failed relationships, situationships, and are dealing with the psychological coping of seeing many of their female friends get married and have kids that they themsel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/23 07:46 AM |
| – | Men can't have more sex if they don't approach women. Over 50% of single men have not approached a woman in the past year.These men who are tall, in shape with some having decent amount of muscle, and facially attractive. They rarely match with a woman who is not fat and/or not hideous facially. Just those 2 criteria are difficult to find on dating apps for any man. Not asking for the moon here, just don't be a hippo and be a little prettier than a gargoyle. Most men can't even get that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/23 07:39 AM |
| – | Why should a man not date younger women given the opportunity?https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/?attachment\_id=28973 Then why is data also showing that the number of unmarried childless women has skyrocketed and will continue to do so in the near future? Also people looking at that cohort have found that 75 percent of these women would did not want to end up single and childless at 40+ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/23 07:37 AM |
| – | Why should a man not date younger women given the opportunity?You make good points. Not all 32+ women are terrible. Also I am not overweight as a man in my 30s and I very strongly do not want to date a woman who is. If a 32 year old woman is fat then there is very little hope she will ever take care of herself physically. A 22 year old woman has a chance in getting fat over time, but I know that a fat 32 year old already had the worst physical outcome happen to her. I will take a chance of a bad outcome versus to certainty because I already know it happene… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/23 07:15 AM |
| – | Why should a man not date younger women given the opportunity?That why's so many 30+ women make videos on tiktok about about hard it is to find a man and seem so pissed about men dating younger women. Many of the sing woman my age (early 30s) I have met in the pasts several years has expressed distain for men who date younger women. In conversations during the times it came up, these women act like the men are predators and monsters. I am sure there is no other reason the 30+ women I've known seem so bother by this other than 'protecting' younger women- es… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/23 07:03 AM |
| – | Why should a man not date younger women given the opportunity?Could you? I cannot remember the last time I met a woman over 30 who expressed any desire to date a 20-22 year old guy. They have said things about how they are gross and have no motivation and can't really offer anything to them. Other than sexual, there is nothing these woman could want. By 30 most women are in the finding a husband stage. A 22 year old guy is going to have a lot harder time talking with a 30 year old woman than a 30 year old guy will talking to a 22 year old woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/23 07:00 AM |
| – | Men can't have more sex if they don't approach women. Over 50% of single men have not approached a woman in the past year.I am talking about how most of the matches men get on the apps are women WAY less attractive than them. My good looking tall successful guys I know on the apps that do well, will have most of their matches being below average at best. Good looking fit tall guys who are successful on these apps struggle to even match with women who are not fat and not hideous. I am not exaggerating. For a guy who is a 8 or 9 to find a woman on that level matching with them is a challenge because those women are t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/23 06:58 AM |
| – | Why should a man not date younger women given the opportunity?Looks, being more fit, less bitter towards men and the world, less demanding, less difficult, less rigid, happier, more excited for things, more energy, more open to experiences, less feministic, less emotional coping, dating is fun and not a mission to find husband,- all these ways younger women are better. I understand that women age. the difference is that if you look at most women unmarried or chronically single at 30 you will not find many that are impressive. Most of the single women at 30… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/23 06:48 AM |
| – | Men can't have more sex if they don't approach women. Over 50% of single men have not approached a woman in the past year.It's the point that spending your time with a woman only because you want to sleep with her is not my cup of tea. Most of these women want relationships. Women will want only sex sometimes, but I don't think that is the most common scenario. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/23 05:39 AM |
| – | Why should a man not date younger women given the opportunity?Not true. Younger women are just enjoyable to be around and they have a lot more energy to do things than older women. They have a thirst for life and experiencing things. Older women far less because they have already done those things. Younger women feel like a fun time while older women often feel like they are just logistically looking for their husband and want to find out your information as soon as possible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/23 05:34 AM |
| – | Why should a man not date younger women given the opportunity?Men should not care what a 30 year old thinks of men dating a 20 year old. Most 30 year old women will hate it because it is the threat to them that many men their own age would strongly prefer to date a woman 10 years younger than them. It undercuts the values of feminism that these women tell each other are both important and are what 'men want'. They want to think that difficult independent women are what men prefer and these traits overcome the fact that the 20 year old is generally far more… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/23 05:32 AM |
| – | Why should a man not date younger women given the opportunity?Men should date younger women. Younger women are generally far more desirable for what men want than older women. Date a 23 year old over a 33 year old if you have the chance. The age gap should be reasonable. A 65 year old dating a 19 year old is a little much, but to date a woman 10 years younger than you, or 15+ if she is over 25, really is nothing. It's the story old as time with successful men dating younger women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/23 05:29 AM |
| – | Would you rather share a high status millionaire or have a low status/earning man such as a cab driver all to yourself? (the cab driver has no ambitions to change his socioeconomic status in the future)But many women do | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/23 04:20 AM |
| – | Men can't have more sex if they don't approach women. Over 50% of single men have not approached a woman in the past year.Most women still want to meet you before going to your house to hook up. If these guys want to spend that much time with these women to get laid then cool. I personally would not even find the time for that to make sense for most women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/23 04:19 AM |
| – | Would you rather share a high status millionaire or have a low status/earning man such as a cab driver all to yourself? (the cab driver has no ambitions to change his socioeconomic status in the future)I have never heard of them. Assuming you are right I would say that they should not exist. The idea of being able to slam people publicly where they don't even know it and can't defend themselves is just screwed up. In any sense of the word 'justice' being able to actually defend yourself has to come at play. Having people who easily have the motivation to ruin your reputation speak about you without accountability or defence from the accused is not okay. Men or women this should not happen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/23 04:18 AM |
| – | Men can't have more sex if they don't approach women. Over 50% of single men have not approached a woman in the past year.Maybe the women interested in you are the women you are not interested in. If you want a girl you can ether hope that she just happens to like you, or you can go talk to her and see what happens. Not every woman is unreasonable, and sin my experience I would say meeting these women means talking to women in the real world off of these apps. I think that women who don't go on these apps tend to be much higher value and far less shallow than women on Tinder or Hinge. These same women just might ap… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/23 04:03 AM |
| 2 | I was in a Left Wing subreddit and someone responded to me with this, and I'd like to get your guys' opinion on it. Do you feel like this could ultimately explain why Men are treated harsher in general?That's a good analogy with religious fundamentalists. I just try and keep it civil and if they get frustrated I tell them that I am just trying to understand what exactly the patriarchy is or how exactly women are oppressed. How can we overthrow those laws that oppress women if we don't even know what they are? The programming is strong and vague. Like religious fundamentalists, feminists can see the light and realise that men are not actually privileged in most ways and women are not disadvanta… | /r/MensRights | 24/09/23 03:52 AM |
| – | Would you rather share a high status millionaire or have a low status/earning man such as a cab driver all to yourself? (the cab driver has no ambitions to change his socioeconomic status in the future)Make a guy take an STD check, spend 30 dollars on a background check, get to know him and those around him. His legal issues will come up on a background check and can't hide diseases with a screen. Ironic that you say 'no one should be taken advantage of', when you have men put on sites without their knowledge or consent and have others commenting and potentially saying false allegations and slander against him where he does not even know about it and cannot even defend himself against any pote… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/23 02:34 AM |
| – | Would you rather share a high status millionaire or have a low status/earning man such as a cab driver all to yourself? (the cab driver has no ambitions to change his socioeconomic status in the future)And the idea that men should be put up publicly, when he has no idea or consent for this, is wrong. They didn't ask or consent to be put up this way. Also that's wonderful that even telling men that they are being put up publicly and potentially attacked in ways that meet legal definitions of slander and libel, is whole other level of problems. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/23 02:30 AM |
| – | Would you rather share a high status millionaire or have a low status/earning man such as a cab driver all to yourself? (the cab driver has no ambitions to change his socioeconomic status in the future)Men can't have more sex if they don't approach women. Over 50% of single men have not approached a woman in the past year. There is something very disturbing about this. I cannot imagine women would take it well if there was an equivalent male group out there that dug up dirt on women and the things they do. What if there was a male group for a guy to see how many men his partner hooked up with and find out the details of her she probably isn't forthcoming about? If I found out my partner ever p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/23 02:27 AM |
| – | Why be angry at women over their attraction?I think the game is fucked overall, but men bitching about it doesn't help them. These guys need to get off the apps and meet women in person. Dating apps reduce finding someone to basically looks and that works for only works for mostly physically attractive men. Men have to meet women in person and acquire that skillset, even if it is difficult. If a guy can talk to a woman and she enjoys his company because he makes her feel good, she is going to give him some points even if he isn't as tall … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/23 02:21 AM |
| – | Why be angry at women over their attraction?It's more about the entitlement that bothers men. Seeing a woman who is obese and not pretty thinking she deserves a guy who is tall, thin, handsome, and makes more money than her- is about her being entitled enough to think she deserves someone massively more desirable than her. That's the point. Women have been told by other women and society that they are flawless and perfect regardless of how flawed they actually are. They are fed these lies and it inevitably has created a generation of wome… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/23 02:13 AM |
| – | Why be angry at women over their attraction?I attempt to just accept it for what it is. I find it annoying when women in my social circles who are not very desirable go through the 'woe is me' because they are single and cannot find the man of their dreams who is way more desirable than her. I get annoyed because it is nothing but endless entitlement on their part. I think the entitled standards of women are more social than biological. Women 50 years ago weren't like this expecting men way better than themselves in looks/weight/career. I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/23 02:10 AM |
| – | Men can't have more sex if they don't approach women. Over 50% of single men have not approached a woman in the past year.What type of women are you approaching? Where have you been approaching them? Do you feel you have good social skills and can hold a conversation? Don't give up. The art of approach is very hard to be successful at. Keep growing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/23 01:56 AM |
| – | Men can't have more sex if they don't approach women. Over 50% of single men have not approached a woman in the past year.These guys are too busy worrying about pointless details when many can't hold a conversation with a woman anyways. Most of these men who complain about Chad or other details, wouldn't even have success if they could switch bodies with a Chad because the Chad in real life has social skills, confidence, charisma, and can talk to women. I've met dudes who were about average attractiveness who could get women easily. They had the 'gift of gab' as the saying goes. A great looking guy who can't hold a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/23 01:53 AM |
| – | Men can't have more sex if they don't approach women. Over 50% of single men have not approached a woman in the past year.If a guy can't hold a conversation, neither will matter. Men need to stop obsessing over looks and learn social skills to talk to women. We as men waste our time worrying about things we can't change. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/23 01:50 AM |
| – | Men can't have more sex if they don't approach women. Over 50% of single men have not approached a woman in the past year.Have a conversation. Be interesting and someone she enjoys talking to. This can make women interested in you when they otherwise might not be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/23 01:48 AM |
| – | Men can't have more sex if they don't approach women. Over 50% of single men have not approached a woman in the past year.I think it's because approaching women in public is something that is a difficult to do without a high level of social skills. Also doing so will result in rejection most of the time, affected by looks, social skills, charisma. I think men either don't want to, don't know how to, or just don't want to deal with the constant rejection. On dating apps, it is diffierent because the rejections don't feel personal. If you approach a woman and she just isn't interested in talking to you or having any … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/23 01:47 AM |
| – | CMV: Women have nothing to gain from dating men, but everything to loseTo dismiss evolutionary psychology outright is foolish. Also saying that it is rejected overall by the greater scientific community is inaccurate as well. The Marxists, feminists, and other social constructionists and conflict theorists don't like it, but the biological evidence to support it as a framework is expansive. It's not like evolution is a central framework of biology generally. The last sentence was sarcasm. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/23 12:47 AM |
| – | Do you think it’s true that dating gets easier for men and harder for women in their 30s?Exactly. Be someone that they enjoy being with and age will not matter. For men it is much easier to stay in shape around 30 than it is for women. Hit the guy and don't eat too much and it's not too difficult to stay cut with some muscle. And dating younger women is a life changer compared to dating 30 year olds. 22 year olds are actually fun and fit. Dates with them don't feel like an interrogation or a job interview. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/23 12:41 AM |
| 1 | I was in a Left Wing subreddit and someone responded to me with this, and I'd like to get your guys' opinion on it. Do you feel like this could ultimately explain why Men are treated harsher in general?In my experience, rejecting a woman makes her angry in the moment and she will probably hate you afterwards. They have never taken it well for me. I think the trick with arguing against feminism is to demand them to actually define what they mean. Feminists almost always use general statements like how women are oppressed and about 'the patriarchy'. Those don't have any actual meaning other than sounding good and following a narrative. Ask them what specific rights they have that men don't. Ask … | /r/MensRights | 24/09/23 12:38 AM |
| – | The idea that « the bar is so low » for men is more and more prominent among women. Do you think that it’s true? Does it match reality?Or because they want to be humble and come off as less entitled. They ONLY mention the things that sound noble without also saying he needs to be tall and good looking, regardless of how not pretty she is or how fat she is. They would rather come across as poor victims who can't find some basic level of man. If they were honest and actually mentioned all their requirements, they would seem less like poor victims and more like entitled brats. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/23 06:27 AM |
| – | The idea that « the bar is so low » for men is more and more prominent among women. Do you think that it’s true? Does it match reality?That's why woman on dating sites like 5% of mens profiles, because the bar is very 'low'. Any woman who says that she has low expectations is a liar. The majority of single women I have met over 30 are single because they set a very high bar for men they want while setting a very low bar for the expectations they expect of themselves. Its fat women wanting tall thin handsome men Its entitled bitter resentful women wanting men with high emotional intelligence Its broke women wanting richer men to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/23 06:21 AM |
| – | The idea that « the bar is so low » for men is more and more prominent among women. Do you think that it’s true? Does it match reality?The average woman in the US is way overweight, angry and bitter, and thinks she deserves a 5% guy. Most women have bar higher than they can actually clear themselves. If men had the same expectations as women, almost every woman would be single because the men would have better options than them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/23 06:17 AM |
| 2 | Do you think it’s true that dating gets easier for men and harder for women in their 30s?I completely agree. I've had an easier time dating younger women in my 30s than when I was in my 20s trying to date similar aged women. Every date I have ever been on with a 30+ women (I have since refused to date anyone over 30) has been so mediocre. Almost every time I can quickly tell why this person is single. Emotional baggage, entitlement, hating men, using false pictures on apps- are all very common with women over 30. In spite of the fact that these 30+ women are not exactly what men wan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/23 12:32 AM |
| 2 | Do you think it’s true that dating gets easier for men and harder for women in their 30s?That is not my experience. Meeting women in their early 20s has been so much easier for me after 30 than before. Confidence, better life situation, achievement, better style, all do wonders. I have had women in their early 20s say they would rather have an older guy who has his shit together and can hold a conversation. Also having some money to do thing versus broke guys their age does help. Highly desirable men can always find women, and men younger than them at that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/23 12:29 AM |
| 2 | Do you think it’s true that dating gets easier for men and harder for women in their 30s?If men have grown since their 20s (career, confidence, communication skills, fashion, money, living situation) then yes. Men who have improved themselves will find dating easier at 30 than his 20s and there are several reasons for this. Women in their 20s are desirable because: they are at their prettiest, usually fit, usually not jaded, usually don't have kids or heavy emotional baggage. Women in their 20s on average will have most of these attributes more often than women in their 30s. As wome… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/23 12:26 AM |
| 2 | How Are Women Systematically Oppressed In The West?No Ask the question what rights men have that women do not. The answer is none. Look at most social problems and you see they that most of them disproportionally affect men far more than they do women. One video on YouTube said it best. I am paraphrasing; 'if women are oppressed in the West it would mean they are the first oppressed group in history to live longer than their oppressors, and be better educated than their oppressors, and societally be protected from insult as compared to their opp… | /r/MensRights | 22/09/23 11:44 PM |
| 2 | Studies show the higher the IQ a man has the less attractive he is to womenThat was me also. The times I just turned off my brain and sounded like an idiot, it seemed to really make a difference. I remember one of my friends texting a girl on my phone and I thought he sounded like an idiot. Like I never would have sounded that dumb talking to a girl. She was loving it... That was an eye opening experience for me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/23 11:32 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Women have nothing to gain from dating men, but everything to loseI don't know your philosophical or political background. Many feminists and those on the left like the ideas of social constructionism and conflict theories. They think that society can be a utopia if only we cure of societal ills. They strongly reject evolutionary psychology because to say there is some innateness of humanity underscores these frameworks that think just changing society can lead to any desired outcome. I have no idea if you like or reject any of these. Often people who say thin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/23 10:14 PM |
| 2 | I was in a Left Wing subreddit and someone responded to me with this, and I'd like to get your guys' opinion on it. Do you feel like this could ultimately explain why Men are treated harsher in general?ying I want to support the male victims because they are erased, disbelieved, and have no su What has worked was me asking women what rights men have that they do not. I point out the either non-answers or terrible answers to that question should show that women are not actually oppressed on modern society. You make good points about sexual abuse of men. I have turned women down for sex for either them being too drunk or myself just not liking something about the situation. These women turn to o… | /r/MensRights | 22/09/23 10:11 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Women have nothing to gain from dating men, but everything to loseLook at table 2. Women only liked .045 of mens profiles (4.5%) https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0272775719301104 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/23 09:49 PM |
| – | CMV: People do not want to date easily available people. Average men can't easily get average women, but average women can easily get average men.I have been in a relationship with a woman for over a year. Mostly a serial monogamist. I have observed this in women in my greater social circle. My girlfriends single friends, women in my career, women in the social circles of friends I am in. The themes are very common. One of the single women (over 30) will talk about how bad dating is or something to the effect that finding a partner is so difficult. I ask in a non-invasive way what they are looking of and what is so difficult about the dat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/23 09:20 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Women have nothing to gain from dating men, but everything to loseLook at table 2. Match rate of women for men is .045, or 4.5% https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0272775719301104 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/23 09:13 PM |
| 2 | CMV: People do not want to date easily available people. Average men can't easily get average women, but average women can easily get average men.I think the same problems of unrealistic expectations and endless entitlement that is responsible for the current women in that 45% percent- these characterists seem to be getting worse in younger generations of women I have met. Strong feminist attitudes go right along with that and gen Z women love these narratives | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/23 02:56 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Women have nothing to gain from dating men, but everything to loseExactly. If you eat at a fine dining restaurant every night, you won't enjoy eating at Burger King. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/23 02:54 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Women have nothing to gain from dating men, but everything to loseWe rise above it, but to say that evolutionary psychology is irrelevent would also be inaccurate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/23 02:47 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Women have nothing to gain from dating men, but everything to loseIt also ruins society. To tell people that the nuclear family is irrelevent and whatever other arrangement you can make is just as good as the 2 parent household, is a bullshit lie. People actually believe that being in a single parent family is just fine. Its hurting the children. A wealthier single mother is better able to provide for her children than a poorer one, but it still cannot bring the emotional aspects a father provides the child | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/23 10:45 AM |
| 1 | CMV: People do not want to date easily available people. Average men can't easily get average women, but average women can easily get average men.Men raising their standards would be nice. Unfortunately the male sex drive is very high and for the desirable men that can get it easily, most have a hard time saying no. Many of these guys will have sex with women they wouldn't be caught dead with in public or want their friends or family to know they are even involved with this person. I've done it. Woman you wouldn't date matches on an app and throws sex at you that night and you take it. That woman then thinks that this dude is on her level… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/23 10:42 AM |
| -1 | CMV: People do not want to date easily available people. Average men can't easily get average women, but average women can easily get average men.People can do what they want and what they think is best. Based on the fact that the number of childless unmarried women has skyrocketed, and evidence showing that most of these didn't want to end up in this situation, it seems to me like most of these women had too high standards and weren't wiliing to accept that their own dating value wasn't what they thought and to adjust. All the women over 30 who are chronically single in my social circles have the common thread of wanting men way better t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/23 10:38 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Women have nothing to gain from dating men, but everything to loseI agree. Women fight this because it underscores their 'independence' and feminist talking points about how they 'don't need no man'. I think that it also is a threat to what most feminists argue is the greatness of the sexual revolution they call freeing and empower to women. The reality is that the on-demand abortion and sexual revolution are the biggest reasons that the number of children born to single mothers has massively increased since the early 1960s before these cultural changes happen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/23 10:21 AM |
| 2 | The age gap in relationships is fine and should not be demonized.The only people who demonize age gaps are the 30+ aged women who are mad that the highly desirable men they want would rather date a 23 year old than them. Thats the point. These same 30+ year old women had no problems with the older men when their were in their early 20s because it BENEFITED THEM. Women in their 30s attack men dating younger women because they don't like their dating options and the men pursuing younger women directly competes against these 30+ women. There is no greater depth … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/23 09:59 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Women have nothing to gain from dating men, but everything to loseTheres probably a bit of that involved. I think when women are young and pretty and can get any hot guy to spend the night with them, they don't question it because it feels good. I've seen it too many times. These same women enjoy hookups and flings in their 20s never questioning it or doubting it because it feels like a luxuary buffet that never closes. These same women in their early 30s find out that the men that chased them in their 20s are either off the dating market or only want casual s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/23 08:30 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Women have nothing to gain from dating men, but everything to loseIt is nature taking its course and it is going to change society. I wonder what is going to happen in 30 years when we have massive number of women past reproductive age who never had kids and never got married. Some of these women now talk talk about the regret while many claim they are happy. Researchers who look at these no child no married women past reproductive age and it seems that they overwhelmingly didn't want that outcome. In the future we will have a massive population cohort of thes… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/23 08:11 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Women have nothing to gain from dating men, but everything to loseSexual liberation gave men the ability to enjoy women's most valuable asset (sex) for little to no cost. Men can now have access to women without committing to them long term and then finding younger prettier women once the current one gets older or loses her attractiveness. Look at what online dating has become with the top 5% of men having a lot of fun times while the average guy is invisible in these apps. Look how the number of unmarried childless women over 30 is skyrocketing with many neve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/23 06:24 AM |
| 5 | CMV: Women have nothing to gain from dating men, but everything to loseYes every women is a godess who knows her worth and won't settle and deserves only the best man imaginable. When studies consistently show that the AVERAGE woman rejects 95 out of 100 men on dating apps, is it not to a point where woman have lost their mind with unreasonable epectations? One study showed that the bottom half of liked men online shared 5% of the likes. This means that 95% of the likes given by women in this study were going to men above average. Are 95% of women above average? Th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/23 06:20 AM |
| 5 | CMV: Women have nothing to gain from dating men, but everything to loseYes all men do that. We get beligerently drunk and yell at the tv. That is actually my favorite hobby come to think about it! Yelling at different tv programs brings variety to the activity. So fulfilling | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/23 06:15 AM |
| 6 | CMV: Women have nothing to gain from dating men, but everything to loseMost of the women who have had terrible relationships do so because of their own shortcomings. They go after exciting players because the roller coaster of emotions is way more stimulating than a stable guy who isn't like that. That or men way out of their league because they are entitled and refuse to accept that they aren't perfect. These women refuse to admit that they keep dating the wrong type of man and rather than take any accountability and responsibility, they blame men or say that wome… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/23 06:13 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Women have nothing to gain from dating men, but everything to loseI find it strange how it is even a debate in society on the value of 2 parent families. Without attempting to get too political, I find the left weirdly unable to accept that having 2 parents will create better lives for children and prevent many of them from living in poverty. I don't understand how stating the value of 2 parent families is controversial for anyone. It is as obvious of a fact as saying that you cannot live very long without breathing oxygen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/23 06:07 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Women have nothing to gain from dating men, but everything to loseA man trying to sleep with women using a cost/benefit analysis would be the most unsexy thing ever and never work. No woman wants to be 'convinced' to have sex with a guy. She does it because she feels strong emotion towards doing so. Just watching a man try to use that cost/benefit argument to get a woman to sleep with him would be absurd. Its not how human nature works | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/23 06:04 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Women have nothing to gain from dating men, but everything to loseIf women are just robots that have no humanistic needs, then sure you might be correct. If women are people have have needs and desires such as love and connection, then you are completely wrong. Most women do want to have children and the thought of having them as a single mother compared to a loving caring partner is not attractive to most of them. Having someone to grow old with and emotionally connect too are very human desires. As people get into their late 20s and beyond, many of them get … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/23 06:02 AM |
| 1 | Question for the girls with friends like thisSay something spicy or unexpected to break up the monotony of the conversation. They either leave or engage. Either is a step forward | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/23 04:29 AM |
| 1 | Question for the girls with friends like thisI think they are just bored or using you for attention and validation. Don't waste your time with it. When I was on the apps I would message them for a few days and if it was like pulling teeth out to get a conversation, I would be done with them. If it goes well messaging, then ask them to meet up for coffee or a drink somewhere. I would message earlier than later to meet because a conversation to nowhere is a waste of time. If she just wants to message and waste your time you should push to me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/23 04:27 AM |
| 10 | I was in a Left Wing subreddit and someone responded to me with this, and I'd like to get your guys' opinion on it. Do you feel like this could ultimately explain why Men are treated harsher in general?You would be absolutely correct! I often just avoid the discussion at this point because it is completely pointless. Most of the time I have the discussion it feels like I am arguing with someone who never heard a counterpoint to her arguments and never actually had to defend them against a serious discussion or even listened to a counterargument to why they might be wrong. Someone brainwashed by hearing something over and over again without any critical opposition is not going to respond well t… | /r/MensRights | 21/09/23 04:01 AM |
| 7 | I was in a Left Wing subreddit and someone responded to me with this, and I'd like to get your guys' opinion on it. Do you feel like this could ultimately explain why Men are treated harsher in general?To find a women call out women for their views or behavior is very rare. Feminists in particular will almost never do this. Even women who are not feminists in my experience, will make rationalizations and excuses for women without even realizing it. Find a woman who is willing to call out the Barbie Movie for how blatantly it vilified men every chance possible. The same women who will admit that they would not be okay with a major movie studies making an equivalent movie that shit on women like… | /r/MensRights | 21/09/23 01:56 AM |
| 44 | I was in a Left Wing subreddit and someone responded to me with this, and I'd like to get your guys' opinion on it. Do you feel like this could ultimately explain why Men are treated harsher in general?Women almost never hold themselves or other women accountable. I call out feminists when they say 'men are shit' because these same women would call it sexist and mysoginist if men said the same thing about women. I would say about 90% of the time these women get defensive and give some chickenshit argument about how they are oppressed so the behavior of them being sexist towards men is completely accerptable even though they not find men saying the same things about them okay. It is like arguin… | /r/MensRights | 21/09/23 01:53 AM |
| 2 | I was in a Left Wing subreddit and someone responded to me with this, and I'd like to get your guys' opinion on it. Do you feel like this could ultimately explain why Men are treated harsher in general?I think that guy has flawed logic. In the intersectional worldview we have it where there is a hierarchy with some groups being viewed as priveledged and others as victims. In that same perspective, it is unacceptable to attack and criticize the groups that viewed as more victimized (like black, LGBTQ, women). Look at society and notice how these same people on the left are often immediately ready to pounce on behaviors and attitudes on the 'priveledged groups (white, wealthy, successful, male, … | /r/MensRights | 21/09/23 01:50 AM |
| – | Women are becoming accepting of their own averageness yet desire above average in men more than ever beforeWomen fail to realize the fact that most men have far less emotional needs than women and thus managing the emional neeeds of a female partner can take substantially more effort that her managing her partners emotions. Most men need a partner who is loving and sexually available a few times a week to be happy. Don't be too bitchy or angry all the time and have sex with us and we will be happy. Women very often need a level of time and communication and attention that is way beyond what most men … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/23 01:32 AM |
| – | Women are becoming accepting of their own averageness yet desire above average in men more than ever beforeFeminists often will make every defense and double standard on earth for how their attitudes are reasonable while they act like any of mens preferences are unacceptable. Women can judge men for being short, fat, bald, overweight, or ugly but if a man judges a woman for her face or body; that is sexist and body shaming. If a man says anything that puts women in a negative light that is misoginistic but if women say "men are shit", then thats acceptable. I have gotten into these arguments with wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/23 01:28 AM |
| – | Women are becoming accepting of their own averageness yet desire above average in men more than ever beforeIt is out of control. Many of the chronically single women in my social circles have expecations that eliminate literally 98% or more men, while these same women are massively overweight, not pretty, have major emotional baggage, and careers that are okay to a little better than average. In spite of the fact that they want men who are tall, in much better shape than them, make better money than them, and have less psychological issues as them- these same women will say that they are high value a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/23 01:22 AM |
| – | Women are becoming accepting of their own averageness yet desire above average in men more than ever beforeMen and women both do this but it is far worse for women. I have never met a single guy friend in my life I thought was below average who will claim that he is hot shit and think he is a 9 or 10. I have met so many women in their late 20s and 30s who are chronically single and way below average in attractiveness, yet discuss in a group setting with men and and women how they are highly desirable and it is so bad that there aren't enough good men out there. These women are often massively overwei… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/23 01:19 AM |
| – | Women are becoming accepting of their own averageness yet desire above average in men more than ever beforein the real world off dating apps I think that dynamic is more at play where the men and the women are closer to even. Online dating is where women go to lose all sense of reality and have expectations that are crazy. When studies show that 95% of likes are going to men in the top 50 percentile, it means that half of all the men on there are sharing 5% of likes. Unless someone is arguing that 95% of women are above average, it shows for online dating most women are not looking for guys on their … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/23 01:15 AM |
| – | Women are becoming accepting of their own averageness yet desire above average in men more than ever beforeI completely disagree. These movements like 'body positivity' point out the flaws but then say that these women are still amazing regardless. They acknowledge the flaw but then reject the premise that these flaws make them less than godesses. In my experience, very few women will admit they they are either average or below average, regardless of how far beloe average they may be. Look at the data that women swipe left on 95 out of 100 men on AVERAGE. That means that for every woman that even lik… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/23 01:13 AM |
| 1 | I feel like the red pill teaches the right things for the wrong reasonsIts just what I have seen with the guys I know who do that. I remember asking one of my friends about it. The dude is very good looking and oozes charisma. On vacation with him and a bunch of friends, I was amazing at how he seemeds to be spending every moment calling one girl back or messaging another or sending photos to another. It was incredible! He was preparing for the week after we got back and I am not exagerating when I say he spent at least 8 waking hours each day on that. The guy has … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/23 05:35 AM |
| 2 | I feel like the red pill teaches the right things for the wrong reasonsBut at least if you live a life of purpose you can have something to hold you through when things are very bleak. The pursuit of please for the sake of such in chasing women is just that, and empty game. Thats one of the pieces of advice I would give the younger version of myself or guys who are in their teens and early 20s. Chasing hook ups is ultimately like playing video games, a fun distraction from the important things men should be doing in life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/23 05:30 AM |
| 1 | I feel like the red pill teaches the right things for the wrong reasonsMost of the men I know with high body counts are men who are low in self-esteem and confidence. The act of sleeping with tons of people is for them to reinforce that they are desirable and get reinforcement. Eventually the novelty wears off off chasing after women and making them believe that you are interested in them only to split they want more than you will give. For what its worth people in happy relationships have much more satisfaction that guys who spend all their time trying to get laid… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/23 04:20 AM |
| 0 | I feel like the red pill teaches the right things for the wrong reasonsWhat about accomplishing things because there is meaning in being a productive person that does something the world needs? Can you really tell me that you wouldn't find some satisfaction being a doctor and treating patients? You wouldn't find some satisfaction running a business and being respected by your employees and community? Having sex with different women is fun, but its a shallow existence that will get old fast. If that is someone's driving force or meaning in life, I doubt they are ver… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/23 04:18 AM |
| 6 | I feel like the red pill teaches the right things for the wrong reasonsThe toxic elements of the redpill are what happens in a society where men are constantly demonized and told her we are the problem with everything, while nobody else in society actually seems to want to give men other advice or often address men at all. When you see that 2/3 men in their 20s are single not pursuing anything at all, it shows a despondency of men that society refuses to even talk about. The problem is that it is a shit message for men. The message that the only groups that listen … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/23 01:43 AM |
| 3 | I feel like the red pill teaches the right things for the wrong reasonsThat is a very good point. The contradiction is palpable. I wish the movement would advise men to better themselves because they will feel better about their lives and things can improve from there. Even convincing men that they should get ripped and rich to be able to hookup with women on dating apps is the wrong advice. The men I know who do that are not satisfied or functional. Their lives exist to meet women at the expense of personal development or their careers. They seem less satisfied th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/23 01:39 AM |
| 6 | I feel like the red pill teaches the right things for the wrong reasonsI agree with your take that the reasons for the advice are not always the best. I think part of it is because the short term fixes matter more to people emotionally than long term reasons like living longer or building your 401k for retirement. They appeal to the immediate emotional responses of men who are struggling with dating and a world that doesn't care about them or their problems. The idea of being able to make some fixes to get laid and having women lining up to you fills an intrinsic d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/23 01:35 AM |
| -1 | Can we finally admit that men who find women unattractive, that they are openly mean to them, or simply don't think they exist?I think most men just ignore the women they don't find attractive just like most women avoid the men they are not interested in. To be rude or cruel to a person is not something I think most people do because that is just not necessary. I will say that I have a bit of a dislike for both men and women who are not desirable yet still have incredible expectations for the attributes they want in a partner. Its the stereotypical '4 looking for a 9' type thing. I resent the fact that a large amount of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/23 01:31 AM |
| 1 | Today’s female dating strategy will lead to a demographic collapse of liberal progressives and a future where women are treated as second class citizens.Its not black or white where conservative women avoid one night stands and are only looking for husbands while women on the left only care about one night stands and hate the idea of relationships and marriage. Generally more traditional women are more likely to marry and have kids while more feminist women are less likely to have kids. Of course many there are tons of examples that violate this rule. Its just more likely to be that way, but not always. Also those encounters sound very unfulfill… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/23 10:36 PM |
| 1 | Most men think they are more physically attractive than they areLong term relationships are mostly about not physical things. Some people get in shape after 30 but that is the minority of people. Look at obesity levels for age groups and I have seen a chart where the levels of obesity by age decline before 70s when older people both eat less and the numbers skew because the obese ones are more likely to die thus lowering their prevalence. To answer your question, no people should find a loving loyal partner they are compatible with and stay with him/her afte… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/23 10:29 PM |
| 1 | Most men think they are more physically attractive than they areMen should find a person who loves them and is a good long term partner and stay with her. Find a woman who has good values and tries to have a good relationship. Most men and women at 40+ are not going to be good looking because time is undefeated. I would like to think I won't decline physically by 40 by it gets harder and harder each year. I can hit the gym and keep tying to stay in shape, but skin and wrinkles will come regardless; more so because my career is very stressful. Regardless, hav… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/23 10:22 PM |
| 1 | Most men think they are more physically attractive than they areI never said I would leave a partner after they turn 24. I don't do that and most men don't. Having a long term partner is about realizing they have more than looks. You love and cherish the person for all they bring to your life and accept that looks are not everything. I am aging too just like everyone else. My skin doesn't look like it did at 22 either. I have dated many women older than 24. I was simply making a comment to respond to what you said about womens beauty peaking in the late 20s … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/23 10:18 PM |
| 1 | Most men think they are more physically attractive than they areBut these women still have no problem being in close proximity to these men and show zero indications of discomfort of restlessness? Of the women I know who have suffered in abusive relationships, they will not go anywhere near the person and just talking about the person will cause these women to get anxious and visibly upset. This is my esperience with women I've known who have had legitimately abusive exes. In my sovial circles with dudes, I have not seen any of these indications with the wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/23 06:21 AM |
| 1 | Most men think they are more physically attractive than they areThey broke up because most relationships don't last forever. I believe I read somewhere that the average person has 6+ relationships before they marry their spouse. Sometimes people are incompatible or life gets in the way or numerous things can happen. Most breakups have nothing to do with abuse or mistreatment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/23 06:17 AM |
| 4 | Most men think they are more physically attractive than they areThe only fuckboys who are consistently doing the fucking is guys who have some amount of looks/game/charisma. The rest get rejected the majority of the time and are irrelevent generally because their dating success will be mostly complete failure. Most men are not fuckboys, are not psychopaths, and are not violent or manipulative. I think it is that MOST of the successful men who are causing these issues and hurting women are like 5% of men at the most. The ones I have known in my life who did d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/23 06:15 AM |
| 6 | Why men are (rightfully) bitter.The vast majority of feminists I have known have blatant mysandrist views and seem unwilling to hold themselves and other women accountablefor when they express mysangrist ideas, even though these same women would lose their shit if men said the same thing in reverse. I have had this happen too many times with women I know in my social circles who identify as feminist saying some version of 'all men are trash', or 'all men are shit'. I've called them out and asked how they can say that when they… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/23 02:38 AM |
| 2 | Most men think they are more physically attractive than they areWith research showing that women like around 5% of profiles, my question is if 95% of men have terrible profile pictures? Men take fewer pictures generally than women so that might me part of it. I still think its far more than 19/20 men having terrible profile pictures. Thats not realistic. I think its far more that most women (even those way below average) want men better than themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/23 02:27 AM |
| 3 | Most men think they are more physically attractive than they areMost men are not fuckboys. I am not a fuckboy and most of the guys I have known have been serial monogamists. In all my social circles very few men are fuckboys. They are very good looking and charismatic to the point where nobody would mistake them for anything but a fuckboy. The fuckboys do well on dating apps because they are attractive and charming. I do not understand how women don't see through them. If you meet someone who isn't nervous at all and completely charming on the first date, it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/23 02:24 AM |
| 1 | Most men think they are more physically attractive than they areResearch has shown that men cross culturally never find women on average prettier than any age above 23. Thats 25-75 year old men in large samples. That research does not support that women peak at 28-30, at least by the men who are dating these women; meaning they actually have to commit and decide if the person is worth the price. some women take care of themselves and age well but I think thats the majority. 40% of 30 year old women are so overweight that they are obese. I think it was almo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/23 02:15 AM |
| 1 | Most men think they are more physically attractive than they areNo I wouldn't, and most guys wouldn't either. My point was that most women have completely unrealistic expectations where they have incredibly high standards they place on the men they want to date while at the same time placing very low standards for themselves. There is often little to no compromise in the women I have known in their late 20s-early 30s. Most of the single women in my social circles at those ages are not interested in dating their male equivalent. They have generally only been … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/23 02:10 AM |
| 1 | Most men think they are more physically attractive than they areIn my life I noticed that it was the 4 years post college that most of the women stopped taking care of themselves and gained a lot of weight. By 27 I would estimate that at half of the non-overweight women I knew from college 5 years earlier were now at least 50 pounds heavier. I never said women peak at 20. Its definitely before 27 that most peak physically. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/23 02:06 AM |
| 1 | Most men think they are more physically attractive than they areI get what you are saying because I have dated some women like that. The guys I am talking about have had successful monogamous relationships with women in the social circle who even after breaking up really do not say bad things about them or avoid being in the same social circle. I've known women who are traumatized by a bad dude and they won't even go within a mile of them. This is not what I've seen with the women who have dated my firends which leads me to think they are not these bad types… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/23 02:03 AM |
| 2 | Most men think they are more physically attractive than they areThese guys have dated multiple women in my social circles. If they were complete scumbags I think at one point these women would have said something to someone in the social circle. The fact that these women have not said these things, and still have no problem associating with these guys, makes me think that they probably are not bad guys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/23 02:01 AM |
| 4 | Most men think they are more physically attractive than they areI don't date men so maybe my perception is off but it seems that there are better men out there who are not given credit. I am friends with mostly men who are college graduates, make over 65k a year, not overweight (some have muscle), facial average to above average mostly, not scumbags, and most are over 5'10 in height. These guys seem to be decently above average in most fields, and they have had pitiful dating success on these apps in spite of the fact that they have good pictures and living … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 08:24 AM |
| 2 | Most men think they are more physically attractive than they areYour point makes sense. I don't feel like my sex drive has fallen much from my late teens/early 20s to earlier 30s now. Its probably at least 85% or more of my early 20s. In a lot of ways its kind of inconvenience. I think how much more men could get done if we had no sex drive and spent the time/energy/money on other things. I am on my way to achieving my goals, so it hasn't taken that away from me, but I could have used that time on sex and relationships in other more productive ways. I like m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 07:23 AM |
| 2 | Most men think they are more physically attractive than they areI went through the same thing and wonder about it. If I walk around in a place where there are college age women now I think tons of them are attactive. When in my college undergrad days I don't recall feeling like so many were that pretty. I am not sure why the change or maybe most men like yourself felt the opposite. It could be sex drive or that I see the reality that my 30s consist of single women that are for the most part extremely undesirable, while I see most 20 year olds at least aren't… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 06:54 AM |
| 1 | Back to Basics September: The Fear of the Wall and Why I'm Sick of Hearing About ItThe women I know that age who are not married (and want to be) are really unhappy wiht the dating scene and their options. Most do not like the men that are interested in them who are late 30's to mid 40s with a lot of them being divorced or having kids. I think married women in their 30s are happier because they are not going through those issues. | /r/RedPillWomen | 16/09/23 06:49 AM |
| 5 | Back to Basics September: The Fear of the Wall and Why I'm Sick of Hearing About ItI am a male and I never liked the term "the wall". A wall is a fixed structure that you cannot pass through no matter how hard you push. I think the analogy of a door that can be opened is better. You walk up to the door and if you keep walking you will not go through it but if you restrategize and turn the handle the door will open and you can walk through. The age that this dynamic changes is different for all women depending on looks and how well each person talkes care of herself, plus genet… | /r/RedPillWomen | 16/09/23 06:47 AM |
| 14 | Why men are (rightfully) bitter.Today’s female dating strategy will lead to a demographic collapse of liberal progressives and a future where women are treated as second class citizens. Its really a disasterous situation where modern feminism often is mysandrist while the red pill to combat modern feminism is just as often mysoginistic. Its fucked. I think men are tired of being blamed so much by modern society because the reality is that feminist viewpoints are the cultural norm most of the time and dominate in Hollywood, the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 06:39 AM |
| 1 | Women with a lot of male friends are a instant 'red flag'Every one of them would and every one of them probably is hoping it does happen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 06:29 AM |
| 1 | Women with a lot of male friends are a instant 'red flag'Women like that are typically into the attention and enjoy having men around who treat her and inflate her ego when she doesn't have to provide anything other than her presence. Many of the women I have known who do this are emotionally unstable and show aspects of Histrionic personality disorder with the excessive flirting and dressing provocitively. Attention is the drug and sexuality is how they get it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 06:28 AM |
| 7 | Most men think they are more physically attractive than they arehttps://www.instagram.com/p/Cp3AcVxOG35/?igshid=NzZhOTFlYzFmZQ== If you asked 100 random men to rate her I would bet any amount of money that it would be less than a 4.0 average. She is way overweight and not close to pretty. This is why women overrate themselves on dating apps. Even the woman in the link is not cute or even average, and you think she is a 6. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 06:24 AM |
| 11 | Most men think they are more physically attractive than they areWhen the average woman likes around 5% of profiles, that means that women are ignoring 95% of men on these apps. That 5% is average meaning for every woman that likes say 9% of men's profiles, you will have another woman who likes only 1% of mens profiles to get to that 5% average. I once matched with a woman on Hinge and asked her why she was still single. Her answer was that in spite of matching with 150 guys on Bumble in a few days, she was only attracted to 3 of them and how hard it was to m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 06:22 AM |
| 5 | Most men think they are more physically attractive than they areGood job pointing it out that the numbers difference in gender and the swipe rate mean that the number of likes going to men is way less than for women. I did the math once based on a study estimating like numbers from data that came up with basically for every like a man gets on tinder there will be at least 15 likes going out to women. That doesn't mean women are 15 times more attractive than men on average. Its the way the numbers game goes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 06:18 AM |
| 3 | Most men think they are more physically attractive than they areBut online dating becomes a delusonal counter reality. Women on online dating have standards that are obscene. I have seen the matches to profiles to guys I know who are very attractive and desirable, and they women that match with them on these apps are mostly women who do not even come close to that level. You have women that most men would put in the botton third of women the same age (meaning 2/3 women in that cohort are viewed as more desirable) messaging these guys who are tall, good looki… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 06:15 AM |
| 14 | Most men think they are more physically attractive than they areWomen are not. 30 year old women you see 70% of them overweight with 40% of the total being so overweight they are obese. Among the 30% who are not overweight many are not that pretty or have major emotional or life baggage. Even thought this is the case, they swear they are so pretty and so desirable. Try convicing a chronically single woman in her late 20's to mid 30s that her standards are too high and keeping her single. Every time I have done that to a woman in one of my social circles she … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 06:10 AM |
| 47 | Most men think they are more physically attractive than they areIts more like below average women are entitled as hell and think they are above men how are at their level or even about at their level. Every woman knows she is a 10 regardless of how overweight or emotionally unhinged she is, and she knows her worth and knows that she is better than average. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 06:07 AM |
| 9 | Most men think they are more physically attractive than they areIs it that the men overvalue themselves or that women are really only looking for the top 15% of men at best? I had a friend on dating apps several years ago who is facial handsome, has advanced degree, is not overweight, owned his own business, made over $300,000 a year, had great pictures on his profiles, is a very respected person by anyone who knows him, is charasmatic, came from good family, not promiscuous, had only monogamous lasting relationships, under 30 The ONLY downside to this due i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 06:05 AM |
| 1 | Today’s female dating strategy will lead to a demographic collapse of liberal progressives and a future where women are treated as second class citizens.Feminists may not reproduce as much of conservative women who mostly reject modern feminism. The part that isn't clear is that the feminist view point has gone a long way in achieving cultural hedgemony. The media, academia, Hollywood, most parts of social media, and the general societal conversation all heavily lean towards the feminist worldview. Even if the feminists are at a lower birthrate than traditional women that have more kids, the problem is that the feminist worldview is being washed… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 05:55 AM |
| 2 | How to quantify male and female privilege?This is a terrible idea. The world is very complicated to where making a grand narrative is nearly impossible. the only people who try it are usually idealists who have a strong entrenched position and have very rigid ideas that are hardly willing to alter. Modern feminism is usually toxic and the Red Pill often mirrors the ideas in reverse. The red pill can describe the real world without making claims that all women are one thing or another. Feminism is so rigid that it refuses to look at real… | /r/MensRights | 13/09/23 11:47 PM |
| 6 | Thoughts On These Concepts?My strategy is to ask these misandrists (mostly women) to actually be precise in thier ideas and not just throw out terms like 'the patriarchy' that sound great but don't actually tell you anything about what they mean. Ask them what the patriarchy actually is and how it actually works with specific examples. Ask these women how they are oppressed in modern society where we are the safest and most economically productive we have ever been in human history. I point out facts that show that men ar… | /r/MensRights | 13/09/23 11:40 PM |
| – | How would your reaction change if your daughter/son hired a prostitute, as opposed to being one?Regardless of if they can keep it secret, I still think that attitude ignores the fact that most people in the sex industry are there because they have emotional issues. That doesn't even get into the fact that working in this industry leads to many more psychological issues. I just think most people can exist in this world for any amount of time and not end up more screwed up than before they came in. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 11:26 PM |
| – | How would your reaction change if your daughter/son hired a prostitute, as opposed to being one?I would not be happy if I had a son who became a sex worker. As much as the feminist rhetoric of 'sex work is real work', and 'sex work is empowering', I think my sane people realize that doing degrading things with your body for strangers for money is quite degrading. Men doing that is no less degrading, regardless of how society views men who have many partners less negatively than women who do the same. The reason for why men with high body counts are viewed less negatively is a man who has m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 11:23 PM |
| 1 | CMV: What I’ve Learned as an Average Guy Among Attractive FriendsI am not at my finished goals at this point, but I wouldn't say I am unsuccessful either. I have multiple degrees, have done jobs that helped me get experience and prepare me for my career and am currently in a program that will put me in a lifetime of financial security. Other than career, I've learned a lot and made my time valuable of making myself more capable and the person I am trying to be. All of it goes together for most people. Most 30 year old men are more confident than they were at … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 06:04 AM |
| 1 | Most men would be resentful and disgusted by their partners if they were given a written or visual history of their past sexual experiences. CMV.Its a matter of what you can find acceptable. Personally I have a number in my head and if a women goes beyond it I am just not interested. If a woman has an unacceptably high number my mind questions why she had so many partners. Does she have impulse control? Does she not value monogamy? Is she incapable of emotionally making a relationship work? People have to decide for themselves what matters and how much of a past they are okay with for a partner. I think that for both men and women having… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 05:35 AM |
| 1 | CMV: What I’ve Learned as an Average Guy Among Attractive FriendsI hear you. I think the problem for a lot of men is that they do not have the social skills to interact with women in ways that make the women want to interact with them. Most men do not have great social skills when they are young and over time MOST of them can develope these skills to at least an adequate level. Maybe you have money and education and are doing well. If you have not learned to communicate with women the only women who will be interested are those that are in it for the money. I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 05:24 AM |
| 0 | CMV: What I’ve Learned as an Average Guy Among Attractive FriendsMeeting women in clubs and social activities will make a man better at communicating with them and that will in turn make these men more attractive to them. Looks max matters, but without some conficence and social skills it really wont make a huge difference if you cannot hold a conversation with them. Looks matter far less in the real world than online dating. Women's standards on online dating go to the stratosphere, but outside of that women will give men points for a lot of things that are … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 12:16 AM |
| 2 | CMV: What I’ve Learned as an Average Guy Among Attractive FriendsI meant (probably not worded well) that most women will have guys their are not interested in placed in that category and (maybe) but most likely the guy cannot get out of the either 'not interested' box. It may take years but who gives a shit? Men on average live to 80. If a man spends12 years after high school improving himself that means he would be 30 and expect to live another 50 years on average. Those 50 years can be damn amazing depending on how much work he put in during his 20s to help… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 12:10 AM |
| 2 | CMV: What I’ve Learned as an Average Guy Among Attractive FriendsAbsolutely agree. All the deficits men have in dating can be overcome with time and effort. My advice is for these men to just ignore dating and women for a few years and improve yourself. Get an education and good job. Start accomplishing things and you will gain confidence. You will learn to communicate and dress better. You will be better and feel confident because you are achieving things and moving forward. At that point you will stop putting pretty girls on some podium of admiration becaus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 12:01 AM |
| 1 | CMV: What I’ve Learned as an Average Guy Among Attractive FriendsThere is truth that women want good personality traits- for the men they already want. It is also true that there is nothing a guy can do to get a woman if she doesn't find him attractive. Men need to improve themselves and accept the fact that dating is hard for most men in their teens and 20s. So many of the women in this age bracket are attractive and they have so many options. Most men through improvement can greatly increase their attractiveness to where they will have an easier time meetin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 11:55 PM |
| 16 | CMV: What I’ve Learned as an Average Guy Among Attractive FriendsWomen go after hot guys and men go after hotter women. I think this is why men should look at situations that benefit then in dating. If you are not tall or attractive but you have communication skills, then I would not suggest wasting your time on online dating or going to nightclubs. Meet women in activities, clubs or social groups because this gives women a chance to see that you have communication skills and present a lot of value there where as clubs and dating apps are 95% how attractive y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 11:49 PM |
| 1 | CMV: What I’ve Learned as an Average Guy Among Attractive FriendsI don't know how old you are by reading your post, but my advice is to not take it too personal. My dating life was way better in my late 20s and early 30s than it was in my 20s. In your early 20s (if that is what age group you are in) its really where most of the best looking and charasmatic guys are doing the best. Most women of the same age are not looking to get married and they are looking to have fun, hence they go after these guys regardless of the fact that what they offer is being attra… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 11:44 PM |
| 1 | Where does misandry stem from?I'm done having a conversation with a child who clearly has no desire to have one and thinks throwing insults substitutes for actual knowledge or a discussion. You have made almost no actual points and having an intelligent discussion is clearly beyond your capabilities. Goodbye! | /r/MensRights | 12/09/23 11:29 PM |
| 1 | Where does misandry stem from?Also your understanding of Marx is very basic. He talked a lot about History. Look up historical materialism as a clear example of this. He talked substantially about his hatred of socialism and how these groups are illegitimate because they support the illegitimacy of an illegitimate system. His works lean heavily into existensialism and the nature of man. What do I know. Its not like I took some classes on history or political science, or read many of the primary sources of Marx. | /r/MensRights | 12/09/23 03:15 AM |
| 1 | Where does misandry stem from?You say I don't know Marxism yet do not mention a single exact point where I was wrong. How insightful of you. I never said that Marxism was the only or was even the primary reason for mysandry. I said that feminism as an idiological framework takes much of the way they view the dynamic of men and women from a Marxist perspective; as does LGBTQ and most of the social justice ideologies. Also, I agree that most mysandrists have emotional issues based on life experiences and rather deal with them … | /r/MensRights | 12/09/23 03:09 AM |
| 1 | I think people drastically overstate the bias against female candidatesI know what they both mean. Neomarxism is referring to the Marxist framworks applied in not explicit marxist ways (overthrowing capitalism) . the connection I make for the woke culture to marxism is through cultural Marxism in the post WW2 era. They looked at the last century since the Communist Manifesto was published and saw to acceptance of communism in the wealthier countries and had to come to terms with why. This is where Marxists (look up Gramski) shifted their focus from strict overthrow… | /r/MensRights | 11/09/23 11:05 PM |
| 6 | Where does misandry stem from?I think feminism takes from Marx the pieces of it that are convenient to their narrative and framework of the oppression they argue. They steal from Marx the idea that society is based on oppressed and oppresor classes and only through obtaining power can the oppressed classes liberate themselves. I think the idiological similarities with this area of Marx are pretty indisputable. I don't think feminism generally anti-capitalism. Most feminists in polls and that I have known tend to be more soci… | /r/MensRights | 10/09/23 11:16 PM |
| 5 | Where does misandry stem from?Marx is difficult to read because his works read like a dramatic novel that seem to try and sweep a wave of emotion and action as opposed to actually explain the ideas. I read the Communist Manifesto several times and it was more the things he didn't say than what he did that had me confused. He says about overthrowing the capitalists and having a command economy and then the economy will somehow become so efficient that all societies needs will be met. To claim that you can come up with a new e… | /r/MensRights | 10/09/23 11:10 PM |
| 1 | Where does misandry stem from?People are complicated and so much of what he are and what we feel is based on subconscious emotional and cognitive processes that are below our threshold of awareness, and probably understanding. Our culture doesn't do much favor to men just by the fact that men are vilified and attacked often and in ways that would be completely unacceptable if the same thing was done to women. Celebrities and the media attack men constantly and you only have to look at the recent string of movies that make al… | /r/MensRights | 10/09/23 11:03 PM |
| 11 | I think people drastically overstate the bias against female candidatesI think most of the claim is waht often happens with the wok/ identity politics/neomarxist umbrella of ideologies do where they use their supposed victim identity as a shield against any criticism or hearing what they don't want to hear. Hillary Clinton is as unlikable and uncharismatic as any major politician I can remember in my lifetime. Camilla Harris isn't liked because she is a super woke idiot who knows nothing and cannot open her mouth without putting here whole shoe in it. That doesn't … | /r/MensRights | 10/09/23 10:58 PM |
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