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HA! Definitely something she would say! ugh...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/05/21 11:32 PM
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I don't think we can have gender equality with the right and access to abortion. I just wish the young boys who got a girl pregnant when they were 16 didn't have to have their whole lives uprooted because they didn't get a say into wanting children or not. Such an opinion isn't even allowed on menslib and is disregarded by most feminists. Anyway, Roe V Wade won't be overturned, it would cause too much a backlash, it's the chipping away at the access that we have to be concerned about. They're do…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/05/21 11:03 PM
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They never care about men dying. It's part of our privilige to die for our better halves! I'm so sick of it. I'm done
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/05/21 08:21 PM
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Do you mean people that are anti-gay in general hate gay men more than gay women? I feel like the 'woke' still like gay men (for now but the end is nigh). I guess being a gay male is the anthesis of masculinity and it's not so much for lesbians, so it could make sense. I don't know I live in a big city, I don't run into many anti-gay people anymore
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/05/21 06:21 PM
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it's funny I just learned of Vaush today cause of Kulinsky. He seems like a very reaonable guy
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/21 08:12 PM
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im worried about the boys and girls too, because I feel bad for the girl who is growing up thinking she's entitled to everything, not gonna be healthy, and not all girls can get away with it
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/21 01:27 AM
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I don't think this is sexist. It's an exaggeration of the truth and meant to be a joke
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/21 01:22 AM
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I sent the authour an email and I was very polite [email protected]
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/05/21 08:09 PM
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I think that's it for me. I can be as concerned and reasonable as I can, and most women will be perfectly reasonable, but it all it takes is a few to make me crumble. It's hard enough to be rejected but then to add to it that you're somehow a bad guy is just not something that's easy for me to handle
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/05/21 04:34 PM
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I've only heard of giving up time doing volunteer work (or military service) in regards to getting your education paid for, and in that respect, I would like to see something like that. I think it's good for the students as well gaining immediate experience and helping our communities I think there is just no appetite for forcing women into the military as they are not as disposable as men, that's why we'll never see mandatory military service again
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/21 08:04 PM
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fair points, but then I would only add that feminist resistance to other feminists should only be an obligation when that toxic feminism is being spewed by those in power or an institution of power
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/21 07:09 PM
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I agree but at the same time can't they say that about us? I don't want to be the person that has to go to MRA and tell them how stupid and juvenile they are, and I definitely don't want to go to menslib and tell them to stop treating women like children and men like they need to be perfect. There are stupid and vile people everywhere
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/21 06:35 PM
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I don't know about that. I thought there was a time, even just 20-30 years ago where people weren't demonized the way they are now. Like I think of the left and we fought against capital punishment (even a MURDERER) got some level of sympathy. Now, I'm single and alone and if that wasn't hard enough, I feel like its a moral imperative for me to get laid or be judged as someone who is bad lol I don't think it always use to be this ridiculous
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/04/21 10:00 PM
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I'm listening, he's funny and reasonable I just think we're increasingly living in a society where the socially inept or people at the bottom are increasingly demonized. It's worse for men because we're ascribed with more agency but sadly I think it goes beyond gender. Social commentary reminds me more and more of high school! It's just sad
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/04/21 05:23 PM
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hmmm I'm not sure if this is gendered (or though obviously, it happens more often in the way you described). If I were in your ex's situation I would definitely want to be friendly and I really think that's a good thing. I feel terrible about the exes who don't speak to me at all anymore and always feel good about the ones I talk to every now and again (they're actually fun relationships). But in the end, I think the person who has been rejected is the one who should have more latitude to do wha…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/04/21 05:15 PM
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I know when I read stuff like this, I always wonder, "don't these people have men in their lives they care about!" Imagine a man saying the things she says. God, at least I feel better about being single knowing I could be married to her
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/04/21 03:12 PM
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I don't even read any of that stuff anymore it's too toxic. That's why I'm glad I found this place, much more reasonable and sensible discussion I don't read menslib either, cause they hate men
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/04/21 01:39 AM
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I totally agree with this. There are those who advocate for men because they want to help men, and then there are those who simply hate feminism and possibly women. When the latter is your priority, you end up saying some stupid things about men and hurt them
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/21 11:14 PM
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See I don't have a problem with "yes means yes" in the sense that we can all be better and maybe be a bit more careful in how we approach sex. Especially when we live in a culture that seems to have embraced hooking up. I like it as a teaching method but as a means to judge, humiliate, and sometimes criminalize men, it's fucking stupid.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/21 10:01 PM
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oh yeah, I don't mean that men are expected to be jerks (maybe a touch of the ability to do so when needed). In terms of liking me, I am who I am, if I were powerful, then that would be part of who I am, and liking me for that is liking me. It's easier to be socially in control and emotionally stable when you have the resources (financial or through power relations) to get what you want and need. I remember many years ago a girl told me she liked me cause of how mature I am. Now let me tell you,…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/21 08:41 PM
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yup
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/21 08:31 PM
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What makes a man attractive, besides a nice symmetrical face and confidence, is charm (charisma), probably some form of passion (probably tied to their confidence) and ability to read people. Basically the most attractive men are pro salespeople. Saul Goodman is a decent example, even if he's not a playboy. but that's kind of what I'm saying. A man's attractiveness is more down to how he behaves as a person, and that being in line with being powerful and in control. Women's attractiveness is mor…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/21 07:21 PM
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let me put it to you this way, if I won the lottery tomorrow, I could have my choice in many attractive women. If an average-looking woman won the lottery tomorrow, she still would not have her choice in men. Powerful doesn't mean you're a CEO, it could just mean you have a good job, you do something important, you're respected in your community, you have a nice car, you wear suits etc. Most women, most of the time, aren't just looking for the hottest guy they can find. Men are a lot more like t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/21 04:45 PM
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no, there is pressure, but not as much as there is on women. Men can be intelligible as strong providers even if they're not particularly attractive. I mean just think of the dating scene, it's much more about being powerful for men and physically attractive for women
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/21 04:06 PM
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yeah, I agree that men make more money because there's a lot of pressure for them to do so. In the same way that there's pressure on women to be attractive, men are pressured to provide and feel useless unless they're doing that
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/21 03:16 PM
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yeah this happens to me too, posting here makes me the devil. *shrugs shoulders*
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/04/21 08:14 PM
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I would put race over gender in part because there is sort of an equilibreum in that both men and women suffer from stringent gender roles, depending on where we are in life
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/04/21 07:00 PM
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I come from the red box. I think the more interesting question is why the need for male role models, the need is obvious. Why do so many men run away from being responsible role models for their own and other children? And what exactly are we getting from men that we can't get from women? It's an important question because of its implications. I think it speaks to whether or not the patriarchy is at least partially a natural phenomenon. I've said this on this sub before but with my mental health…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/04/21 06:58 PM
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And this is probably what bothers me most about feminism. Clearly CLASS is what matters most, then race, and then I'd talk about gender
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/04/21 07:03 AM
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yup, I was wrong. Very sad
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/21 08:50 PM
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lol I'm actually trying to do that, with limited success
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/21 08:01 PM
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fair enough, I can agree with that
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/21 07:54 PM
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lol its true! Most of the people I know are not on social media or on it very often. Maybe this is because I'm 37, maybe you're younger, but older people are not on social media as much as you think. I think if you include women who would thoughlessly say that in private as a joke, maybe you're right, it would be the majority. But I think that's different than actually using it as an insult.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/21 06:57 PM
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Yeah, I definitely think we focus a little too much on protected groups and not enough on just treating the people you come across in life like they deserve compassion, dignity, and respect. For sure, so groups have it worse, we can't suppress those ideas, but we can also focus on understanding that we haven't walked a mile in each other's shoes and people have reasons for being who they are
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/21 06:54 PM
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I don't think MOST women use those insult. MOST women are not even on social media I have no problem being critical of women, I just don't want to demonize feminism, the way they might demonize MRAs (and we certainly have a lot of idiots as well)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/21 06:47 PM
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Punching up is a good example, cause I even feel like that sometimes, but you're right some feminists just see all men as 'up' when by the very nature of the insult, if it were true, would say otherwise. But then what do we say about the PUA's and problematic incels on our side? I mean we're a lot smaller than the other MRAs and there's a reason I and I assume most of us are here, cause the shit we often see on other subs is disgusting and annoying. Should we be judged to be the same as them?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/21 06:45 PM
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I know plenty of women who wouldn't use those insults. I don't know that it's just a few but I suspect that the idiots who talk like that aren't well versed in feminist literature (i.e. they don't read!). But I'm not saying it doesn't happen too often, it does, and sometimes it's not even out of a discussion of gender. For example, many people talked about Trump's small hands, but no one would ever discuss Megan McCain's big ass and if they would, they would be chastised. So I definitely see tha…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/21 06:35 PM
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yeah, it's definitely something I see, including by those who identify as feminists. It's sad, but we have to remember these are individual assholes and not representative of the whole.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/21 05:05 PM
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ah I'm sorry that happened to you, that's bs brother, don't take it to hearth I think you're alluding to a good point. I think its always harder on someone when the person who belongs to the gender they're sexually attracted to is mean to them in some way. But also, I think because of media and all of that, we have more of the expectation that women are going to be nice. I think I've seen for example that women are more trusted when first meeting people. But this is something men need to change …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/21 05:03 PM
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I don't think there are as many insincere people on the left. There's just less money in it. Yeah, I mean in this case the argument is valid, I just think its a stronger argument if you don't mention Rave Dubin
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/21 02:22 AM
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well to be fair, I think the racial disparity is more severe but I completely agree the disparity of the genders gets completely ignored when men are at the shorter end. If these same disparities were reversed, they would be our top priorities.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/04/21 10:58 PM
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well some women will talk about not wanting to be hit on by random guys. I mean its a question of HOW you do it, I think, but sometimes its difficult to navigate, and causes me a lot of anxiety when I'm already nervous about being rejected
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/04/21 04:29 PM
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lol I'll think about it
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/04/21 04:27 PM
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nah I don't think so. The only way I see that being true is probably that guys who have their shit together (good looking, healthy, good job etc.) I can imagine being jerks because they don't need to be nice (not all or even most but some). I don't think women typically want bullies
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/04/21 04:27 PM
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Yeah, I'd never thought I'd live to see the day where I was socially moderate! lol But I just can't jive with hookup culture, it's not what I want at all
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/04/21 04:25 PM
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oh! That sounds nice. I'll check that out. Thanks!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/04/21 04:20 PM
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hmm I should try some dating events when this covid is over, good tips!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/21 09:11 PM
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it's less severe than most people. My worst is when I lose my temper, I can say some terrible things over a couple of minutes because I feel so overwhelmed. It should be a little thing but in my mind, at that moment, it feels like I'm fighting for my very life. It's stupid, but that's gotten a lot better The biggest thing now is not having enough of sense of self, and through that, being a bit clingy and needing validation and sort of putting on my partner the need to do emotional work for me. I…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/21 09:10 PM
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no i really go above and beyond being 'nice' I don't compliment myself lightly lol, people recognize it in me. I'm more interesting to talk to than most people! :p Yeah I know I have to focus on me first, you're right
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/21 09:04 PM
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I'm lonely man #45386 :( have to be honest It's harder for me because I have BPD (or at least traits) and people like me find it difficult to develop their own sense of self. When I'm alone I have very little motivation to want to do anything. When I'm with someone it's all about them. It's like I see the world through their eyes and want what they want. Not very conducive to being in a healthy relationship. But it's really hard to be different. But that's beside the point. I just find it a bit …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/21 08:54 PM
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yeah I used to do that like in bars. When I go to bars I like to sit AT the bar and socialize with strangers (and regulars) there. But I find myself talking to men more than women because I'm legit afraid to say the wrong thing. Rejection is hard enough, but feeling like you're also a bad guy is just too much for me. But I think you're right, outside of online, it's really only through 'social activities' I guess I don't really do enough of that
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/21 07:23 PM
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yeah she's a comedian, nothing wrong with what she said. I'm just saying the joke has some truth in it, how she wouldn't be attracted to a stay at home dad (patriarchal gender norms that most women desire)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/21 03:38 PM
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what's stopping you?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/21 02:46 AM
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I'm not a professional researcher or professor or anything like that but I did go to grad school in Sociology. That's what I witnessed and that's what we were told by our professors. I mean if you'd like to elaborate on how it does work, I'm all ears, you may have more experience than I do
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/21 01:28 AM
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I saw a youtube clip of a female comedian talking about how she wanted a stay-at-home dad...BUT she wouldn't be attracted to someone who wanted to do that... SO she wants an ambitious guy whose dreams she can crush! lol I hear you though, I think the joke kind of sums it up nicely
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/04/21 09:20 PM
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I would wear a skirt but I simply don't have the legs for it :( But yeah, I think when it comes to men, there ain't much good media out there. The guardian is still something I read, as a leftist, but you gotta take everything with a grain of salt these days
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/04/21 07:30 PM
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Women are complaining about the men they are constantly interacting with and not the men they are ignoring yeah, I think that sums it up nicely. The men they want aren't bothering to have a discussion about gender on reddit. I'd almost rather be hated than ignored, I should have been one of the 'assholes'
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/04/21 04:39 PM
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you can say this about most academics in the humanities or social sciences. Conform to the narrative or don't get funding and don't get tenure. Feminist bs is a big one but its not just feminism
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/04/21 03:07 PM
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yeah, I think feminism and sort of being raised by my sisters who espoused feminist ideals about wanting men that were different and more feminine made me a little more feminine in that I'm less competitive and ambitious, more emotional, more empathetic, more communal, and just more sensitive. Also, I had a lack of male role models. What I mean is, I WANT to believe that it is just more of a social construction rather than it being biology and essentially failing to be a man. The latter hurts me…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/21 11:57 PM
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typo, I meant BI men
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/21 10:36 PM
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I totally agree. I'm 37 and my name tells you everything. I'm hetero but I spent most of my youth thinking that it was okay to be sensitive and emotional and all of that. They still say it. But I really think I should have learned to be more 'masculine' and tougher because at the end of the day that's what people, including most women, including most feminists, want me to be. Sorry you've had to deal with this, its really not right, and women should really get over it. It's like those guys who w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/21 09:28 PM
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you don't think so? I mean I've paid for sex before. But spending thousands of dollars in 5 minutes to mistreated seems new and different. I've never been on onlyfans but it seems like its often not even porn, just some sexy photos and getting to talk to a pretty girl for insane amounts of money. Isn't that different? It feels like at a whole new level. As I said I've purchased sex before but it cost me a couple of hundred dollars and I spent 60-90 minutes with someone who was kind to me. I just…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/21 09:23 PM
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yeah, definitely more biphobia with women. I think I've also read that women are less likely to be interested in a romantic relationship with bi men. At the end of the day, they want someone who exudes masculine characteristics as defined by the patriarchy they claim to disavow.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/21 08:14 PM
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I think you're right. We should be careful here, as we don't want to kink shame, but there is definitely something bad going on here. Findom, Onlyfans, maybe to a lesser extent cuckolding. It's a bit much. And this is coming from someone who has purchased sex before (not that often but it wasn't a one-off), this new stuff seems incredibly unhealthy and expensive to me. It's clear to me that these are people with mental health issues (for the most part) and are absolutely starved for attention. I…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/21 08:11 PM
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My only question is this phenomenon (the lack of empathy for men, and empathy for women; the agency in men, and lack of agency in women), is it a byproduct of environmental factors or is it rooted in biology or both? Just on a personal level, with mental health issues, and to be honest not a particularly 'masculine' guy, I now often feel like its not a social issue but simply an issue of biology, and it was the social discourses about being more 'feminine' that helped make me some perversion of …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/21 06:18 PM
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I don't remember where I read this but my understanding is the genetically we far more female ancestors than male ancestors
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/21 06:11 PM
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Wow thank you for sharing this, I think it's right on!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/21 06:10 PM
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I think it does play a role but I doubt it's too significant. Transitioning seems to be a very difficult experience, there would have to be an enormous amount of pressure to do it. But yeah, it probably plays a role
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/21 03:31 PM
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no I disagree with you there. There was definitely a time when women were outside the public sphere and men worked to keep it that way
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/21 09:15 PM
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I'm not sure I completely followed that but my take is pretty simple. I think we DO live in a patriarchal society (well primarily a capitalist society, but you know what I mean), I just don't define it as being for the benefit of men. It's just gender roles and expectations are set up in a way that men should have these 'masculine' or powerful traits, and women 'feminine' and more nurturing and dependant traits. But trying to live up to being a 'man' in our society and especially one of the succ…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/21 05:36 PM
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I used to think I could reach out to feminists. I mean I don't really disagree with them on many issues. MOSTLY (not entirely) I just want them to open up their scope and think about the gendered issues men face. But it's not possible. Certainly not online. They go out of their way to hate on men, it's some kind of catharsis for them. It's not just feminism, I find it with most 'wokeness' even when I pretty much agree with them, I just find them so mean! Like, relax, we're all human, be nice to …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/21 02:15 PM
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Just a personal touch here. I was sexually harassed in the workplace. It's a long convoluted story, and I wasn't perfect (I have mental health issues), but I was sexually harassed. I worked indirectly for a university. It was just amazing how nobody cared until I had to be a stubborn crazy person who wouldn't let it go. A year and a half later, worried about the lawsuit against them from my labour board (who protected me and is the reason I still survive today as I'm still getting paid but not w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/21 02:03 PM
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Just going through the subreddit was triggering but then again I'm clearly a fragile male and all of the above. What are you gonna do? I have to believe that most people aren't really like that
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/21 04:09 AM
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yeah, definitely, we can still be nice to people who for whatever reason appear afraid, but to do it just because there's a woman... I don't know to me that SCREAMS patriarchy
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/04/21 09:24 PM
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It's virtue signalling. "Look at me, I'm such a nice guy I'll yell out when I'm behind you." If you really wanted to be a nice guy, shut the hell up about it and just cross the street. I think it's a nice thing to do if you have the sense that someone (male or female) is nervous about someone behind them etc. But I wouldn't do it just because I saw a woman. Most women aren't little babies we need to protect from our existence.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/04/21 04:16 PM
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I'm not demonizing women. It's just calling the ones who insult us by calling us "autistic virgins" like wtf are they? They clearly hate men, they sound just like incels but females. It's the same thing. Most women are not like this at all. I think most women irl agree with us
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/04/21 09:14 PM
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just to add to this. What's wrong with incels? It's not because they can't get laid etc. its because they hate women. The people who write this garbage are essentially female incels. They can't get laid, or they can't keep the guy they want (cause god forbid they lowered their standards - again just like the incels) and then they take it out on all men as if it's our fault that they were born the way they are. And the use of autistic as an insult is just amazing to me give the rate of autism in …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/04/21 08:55 PM
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yeah, I think class matters too. All men will be effected but some men disproportianately so
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/21 03:18 PM
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fair enough, i mean my statement is probably a little hyperbolic but it really is the impression I get that they're afraid of visible minoritie
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/21 03:17 PM
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I think we all agree that this is sexist behaviour, but your point about who will suffer most of the consequences of misandry is well taken. It won't be me (white guy) it will be men who are visible minorities who will suffer most. At this point I take the, "I have to cross the street" to mean I saw a young black man late at night and I crossed the street. No one is scared of 5'7" white me and as long as I don't try to hit on anyone, I'm basically invisible. It's the visible minorities that suff…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/21 03:29 PM
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yes and no. I want to agree with you but then there's a part of me that thinks, "but this is the world we live in." I'll give you a completely non-gendered example. Here in Canada we just passed a bill that will eventually extend euthanasia to people who are sick/disabled but are not dying. This right was also extended to those with mental illness. As you can imagine there was a lot of debate over it and it wasn't a simple left/right thing (in fact it was the center that supported it, both the l…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/21 01:20 PM
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yeah, I think in an ideal world, we wouldn't have need for sex work, but again, that's the same as for rent. To me, at this stage in our society, that seems so far fetched its hard to imagine a world that is so different from what we have today. But, I agree in an ideal world, sex work wouldn't exist and people would get the love and sex they need organically and for free.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/21 12:53 PM
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I'm uncircumcised but I've come to really be upset about this issue. Circumcision should be illegal unless an adult chooses to do it of their own accord
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/21 12:27 PM
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well, it's no more exploitative than my landlord is being, renting me an apartment when he knows I need shelter. The fact is capitalism is based on exploitation (that doesn't make me anti-capitalist, I just want a more progressive tax system and more robust social safety net. Capitalism has done a lot of good despite the exploitation). I've purchased the services of sex workers before. I find it empowering that I have that option and I'm happy for it. It kind of takes the power that women have o…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/21 12:26 PM
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Well, my first reaction while reading your post was to say "of course it's okay to keep using a condom indefinitely rather than using birth control!" I say this for three reasons (at least one of them completely selfish) First, using a condom has never been a big deal to me. Second, I really do worry about my (past) partners' health with birth control. Thirdly, (selfishly) I find women who get on birth control have diminished libidos and it has been hard on me in the past. So yeah, just wear a c…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/21 08:38 PM
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I stopped going around 2013
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/21 03:12 PM
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I studied sociology and even went to grad school. It was a lot of critical theory, marxism, post-structuralism etc. Believe it or not, I had barely any issues there. People would be very sympathetic and compassionate about men's issues, and they thought of it as a problem of gender, not just women. I swear, I'm pretty sure these online 'experts' never finished high school and its just that the biggest extremists always win on the internet
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/21 01:00 AM
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"Giving us platitudes about how men need to open up more (especially when people don't listen to them), or fight the patriarchy, isn't going to solve these problems." Literally, every time I open up, I'm told to shut up and fight for women. Nothing I talk about matters
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/21 12:05 AM
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also, I would love to genuinely post this on a feminist Reddit simply to engage and really open my mind to what they're saying, and it would just be ridiculed and deleted
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/03/21 08:05 PM
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I don't see women as having more issues than men anymore, I just don't see it. But we still have gendered issues for both men and women
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/03/21 08:00 PM
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Yeah I'm with you on the dating stuff, but that's just life for both men and women. I do think that sometimes we ignore things that now seem obvious to me about what men and women want from each other, and sadly I think its biologically determined to a large extent. Well, my story isn't perfect but I'll try to explain. I have mental health issues and they're constantly ignored and ridiculed and I don't think they are for women. I get judged for every mistake I make and no one treats me with any …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/03/21 07:58 PM
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I'm glad she was fired, but Dave Rubin is not only a conservative lunatic but it's also all an act. He's the worst of the worst.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/03/21 01:36 AM
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I just don't think a lot of them know what they're doing. I think it's partially just a joke. But when it's over and over again the jokes start to hurt, especially if you're someone like me who is struggling with depression and other mental health issues. It makes me feel like I don't deserve to be alive, it's humiliating.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/21 04:31 PM
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and every chance I get I see them saying men are policing women's bodies. Imagine as a man, you tell women what to wear and how? ugh, its disgusting
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/03/21 08:59 PM
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I'm really sorry this happened to you. And you're right it's very difficult to be seen as victimized when you're a man. You didn't deserve to have to deal with this
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/03/21 08:30 PM
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what's the solution though? I'm not sure if men having a meh attitude isn't a good thing and it's the women that stupid for being proud. I don't want to be super nationalistic either. We're just human. On the other hand, I wonder if someone like me, who has mental health issues and is constantly thinking about suicide, wouldn't have been better served by having more masculine traits like ambition and competitiveness. i don't know its hard to say sometimes, I guess it partially depends on what yo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/03/21 05:34 PM
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I'm not saying the things that are published should be published, I'm just defending gender studies et al as a whole. I think it's a grave mistake to dismiss entire disciplines as misandrist... and its not very left-wing
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/03/21 09:01 AM
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I disagree, respectfully. I studied sociology, I understand that its not a HARD science, but we're doing the best we can in a world where we can't isolate variables the way we can in a lab. I don't think gender studies or feminist philosophy as you put it, are inherently wrong, there are many contradictory ideas and vigorous debate that exists in these feilds. Also I think toxic masculinity is a bad example, frankly, I agree that masculinity, as expressed in modern-day society, CAN be toxic (inc…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/03/21 10:21 PM
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I definitely agree, it's important that we're not lumped in with other men's advocacy groups. Also, I don't want it to turn into one. I'm really glad I found this Reddit. I care about women's issues, I think we all do, but we matter too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/03/21 12:58 AM
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Thank you for sharing your story. I think it's important to remember why we're here. I'm sorry that happened to you
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/03/21 03:14 PM
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no, not at all, feel free to use it
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/03/21 10:28 AM
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I'm somewhere in the middle with Peterson but I'm very cautious when listening to him
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/03/21 10:25 AM
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yeah I'm starting to realize there's just some things I can't do anymore, and most of social media is one
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/03/21 11:44 PM
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yeah you're right about ptsd and twitter it just don't mix
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/03/21 11:24 PM
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oh yeah, it was bad, not even in a civil way, even though I was really nice for most of the time
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/03/21 11:24 PM
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1) Porn is fine in any form. Any industry can exploitative but in principle, I'm all for all forms of sex work 2) I didn't even know they existed. I'd rather it just be gender studies 3) More feminism neutrality 4) I'm not even opposed to patriarchy but I don't like when they use it as an excuse to blame men, as if someone like me has any power, and dismiss how patriarchy negatively affects me as a man. I would say there is a sort of gynocentrism but it could just as easily be seen as part of th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/03/21 09:37 PM
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yeah I think you're right, its just extremism on all sides
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/03/21 09:15 PM
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that's exactly how I see it. Women have genuinely serious problems with violence and sexual violence from people they know. The focus should be there if anywhere
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/03/21 04:39 PM
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yeah that subreddit is pretty bs. I'm glad I found this place. I find mensrights just hate women and menslib is just virtue signaling. I don't even bother anymore
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/21 07:55 PM
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Guys just remember the worst of this is on the internet. Most women in our lives aren't these fanatics
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/21 07:52 PM
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exactly. I don;t know about needing a better term, but some very stupid "feminists" don't seem to know the meaning of the word
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/03/21 04:35 PM
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sure! It can be. I would have trouble saying that our society isn't patriarchal in some way. Men are EXPECTED to be leaders for one. Just because something is good for a few powerful men, doesn't mean it's not bad for most men. Part of the reason they don't care about men is because we're supposed to be tough, strong, able to handle ourselve and take care of others (especially women). "Ladies first" is patriarchal, even though we're literally putting women ahead of us lol
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/03/21 11:47 PM
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ah true! I kind of always get my keys out early but it's more for efficiency than fear on that one lol
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/03/21 06:20 PM
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I never understood the patriarchy defense. I DO actually think we have a sort of patriarchal society, certainly a history. But it had been no better to men than it has to women. It's like they say that to absolve themselves of responsibility for what happens to men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/03/21 04:26 PM
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done 4 of those things, and 2 that I didn't do is because I rarely drive. I fucking hate these people
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/03/21 04:06 AM
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It's mostly social media, MOST women are perfectly reasonable. And people aren't going to stop having sex and dating so I'm pretty sure even the women that hate men the most are going to hook up with SOME guy. Just get off social media a bit. It really brings out the worst in some
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/03/21 11:37 PM
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I feel sorry for her. She lost her friend and now she's become a pawn in some political game. It's just another reminder that most people are sensible. Its the media and a few online extremists that spoil the bunch
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/03/21 11:33 PM
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yup, it's definitely easy to use the same arguments made against men, against visible minorities, immigrants, etc. It's the same playbook.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/03/21 05:05 PM
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It's exactly like she says, they say the same things about black people but lefties call it racist, when they say it about men, its okay
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/03/21 04:25 PM
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seriously dude, don't put up with that from your own gf. I know its hard to leave, but you really should consider it
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/03/21 04:24 PM
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Wise for a 17-year-old!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/03/21 04:23 PM
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I hear you brother, it's getting to me too. The people who are most anti-male are people I would otherwise respect and see allies. It messes with your head more
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/03/21 02:05 PM
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exactly MEN are far more likely to be victims of violent crime
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/03/21 02:01 PM
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"and yet we'll probably find out that he's another 'alpha male' who was highly attractive to women." Don't say that. It just makes you look bad, even if you're probably right. There was one politician asking for a 6 pm curfew for men! When I pointed out that actually, men are more likely to be victims of violence, I got the "but men are the perpetrators" That's what racists used to say about blacks, now it's okay to say about men
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/03/21 02:00 PM
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I don't think its criminal. I might be wrong. You can certainly be sued for it but there is nothing criminal about it. Otherwise some banned youtubers would be in jail
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/03/21 01:51 PM
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well its a man being ridiculed and demonized for behaviour that *I* think is completely normal. That was my angle. There are so many negative and, to my mind, outrageous comments about it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/03/21 02:16 AM
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I am anti-censorship every time. Or I used to be. I am starting to genuinely worry about false 'facts' being spread. Let me give you an extreme example. I'm okay with the Nazi hating the Jew, he can spew his hate all he wants. But when he starts saying so and so Jewish person is doing X and Y and these are simply untrue, I worry, and I feel like that needs to be stopped. I'm curious where you've seen the calling of misandrist subreddits to be censored, I've never seen that and it surprises me gr…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/03/21 11:51 PM
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