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Women think they can smell "guys like me" a mile away. Trust me. In some cases, they don't have a clue. it does feel a bit like that sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 02:30 PM
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this is basic evolutionary psychology.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 11:20 AM
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yes, violating social norms is only socially acceptable from physically attractive people (based on science)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 10:59 AM
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yes, but some people don't understand this and just never grow up, it's painful to watch.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 09:35 AM
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in Elliot Rodger's case, yes. grabs starbucks vanilla latte.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 07:58 PM
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nah, it's giving up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 07:46 PM
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at least they try to make interesting discussions
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 12:02 PM
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it's kind of hilarious though when the same women who judge and devalue men proudly admit to being nymphomaniacs on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 11:25 AM
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it must hurt to be that dumb. thinking the world revolves around someone is typical of BPD. you don't seem able to understand fundamental aspects of science that don't match your view on gender
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 08:46 PM
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there are 2 genders in most cultures, based on evolutionary biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 08:45 PM
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if science isn't verifiable proof to you (apparently you didn't read the OP) nothing is but your comments alone are verifiable proof of severe narcissism and BPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 08:40 PM
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accepting or not accepting science is more of a mindset that you're either too immature to internalize or just don't understand. when there's science proving me wrong that means I'd change my viewpoint on that topic
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 08:37 PM
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most evolutionary biology assumes there are 2 genders, as the article linked in the OP points out.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 08:34 PM
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google any scientific article because the red pill leverages all science, but social science changes all the time and gets cherrypicked by feminists to support their views.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 08:23 PM
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more science than your immature brain could fathom.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 08:20 PM
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TRP isn't based on feelings, maybe your BPD is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 08:19 PM
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if there was actual hard science backing the existence of more than 2 genders, it would be good to acknowledge them but it seems that people want to use it to elevate themselves, enabling narcissism is bad for society.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 08:00 PM
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I think in this day and age we are becoming too spoiled and increasingly immature again, like people in 1930s nazi Germany. Many of us may harbour these kind of thoughts while not expressing them directly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 07:40 PM
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"kindness (personality), intelligence, smelling good (aka hygiene) all being important factors in mate selection for women." women care about these traits only when a man meets a minimum threshold of physical attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 01:07 PM
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true
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 12:33 PM
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what's wrong with spreading truth and posting data from dating apps? I thought this was a very good post. people lie a lot on online dating though so it'd be better to have swipe data.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 05:52 PM
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you can take an IQ test again and it'll be kind of similar to the last one, that's why I dont think it's an accurate measure of fluid intelligence which is supposed to be about divergent thinking and not being prepared for the test.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 10:10 PM
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that's crystallized intelligence. there's also fluid intelligence, which isn't measured by the IQ test. the test-retestability of IQ tests makes it a poor measure of intelligence imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 02:23 PM
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it shows you're booksmart/dedicated and perhaps gifted in some areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 02:13 PM
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they're not really hallmarks of intelligence, just a hallmark of self-efficacy
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 08:57 AM
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this is painfully accurate. good relationships aren't balance sheets where sex is the only thing on the woman's half. a little bit of (self-) respect and basic communication skills aren't just nice to have, they're crucially important.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 08:37 PM
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someone didn't get the memo that low-value (narcissistic/lookist) women are kind of sad and pitiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 08:20 PM
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while making a decent point, he doesn't quite see the full picture due to being old. the current dating market is arguably shittier than in times when men 'hunted food' and 'fought wars'. Add to that a mental health crisis that could potentially be helped by Virtual reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 06:33 PM
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the amount of incels is growing because of Tinder, OLD and narcissism. Simple logic. Evolutionary psychology is science and proves what I said. I don't think you have enough brain cells to even read 1 scientific article, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 06:02 PM
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Despite OP desparately wanting TRP to be full of misogyny, TRP follows actual science, not some cherrypicked articles from weird sites, which shows that DT types vastly dominate the SMP, mostly thanks to OLD and social media. it also shows that not all women are like this, some 10-20% aren't which is still a shockingly low number.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 03:12 AM
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yes. DT/ low-value men mainly attract DT/low value-women. it's true that these men are more favored for hookups, whereas nice personalities are desired more for relationships and the RMP is pretty much dead so pretty much all of the sex (80-90%) is had by these people.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 03:01 AM
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alcohol tends to turn u into a chronic liar and makes u bitter and possibly mentally impaired.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 02:14 AM
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OP just cherrypicked a study to prove their biased view
/r/BlackPillScience12/11/21 04:22 AM
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yes
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 04:30 AM
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reality is they are Low-value women, in pursuit of status, physical attractiveness and money.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 04:07 AM
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physically 6+ when I looksmaxx. financially: -5000 social skills: 3, needs a lot of work.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 03:37 AM
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there are at least 4 million scholarly articles/books on virtue out there so I wouldn't say that's an unscientific topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 03:05 AM
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apparently you don't. The Socratic method (also known as method of Elenchus, elenctic method, or Socratic debate) is a form of cooperative argumentative dialogue between individuals, based on asking and answering questions to stimulate critical thinking and to draw out ideas and underlying presuppositions.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 02:54 AM
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a comedian criticizing scientific debates doesn't make those debates unscientific. Science is about concepts at its core.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 02:53 AM
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Aristophones was a comedy-writer. don't even know what your point is. A lot of non-scientists have come up with scientific breakthroughs throughout history. already pointed out that the socratic method is the same as the scientific method.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 02:48 AM
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philosophy was science in those days, now it isn't. any topic could be scientific, even gender is considered a scientific topic now.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 02:35 AM
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it's possible to debate scientific topics without knowing everything about that field. in that way, the socratic method was the same as the scientific method except that socrates just wasn't in a lab with instruments.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 02:32 AM
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yeah from 1000 bc to 300 AD there must have been some in cultures that had science, but this post just has no sources whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 02:25 AM
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the problem is just that without any scientific evidence, it's hard to have an intellectually honest debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 12:41 AM
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the dating market got changed a lot by the 80/20 rule and female selectivity, clearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 10:46 PM
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tbf that's mostly from the women on this subreddit. Idk how you missed all the topics about the 80/20 rule, and in what way that's disconnected from reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 06:03 PM
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agreed, I personally just almost turned misogynystic because of the level of toxicity and seeing these depressing studies
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 08:20 PM
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it's also science that people on dating apps are higher on Dark Triad/narcissistic traits than the average person, and narcissists value extraversion. Dating sites/apps are not designed for introverts. it's best to have a partner with roughly the same extraversion level.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 01:05 AM
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yes but I don't agree personally with what's being considered rude in society and what isn't. to me casting people out would be rude.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 10:05 PM
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I think that there's a narcisssism/gaslighting epidemic where being rude is normalized.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 09:38 PM
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this. dating based on class/education level, religion, values/beliefs or mental disorders is common.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 06:22 PM
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yep
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 11:38 PM
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"Not true, it was based on getting girls in college. There's a College Facebook, guys look at it to figure out which frosh girls they want to go after in advance of reaching campus. That's how Facebooks were used." yeah the girls in his college dorm that is -_- what you said was just straight up BS. "So 80/20 is bullshit. Just call the market as it is at the current time, just say it is an overvalued market at this time and women are not worth the investment of resources right now. We do it with…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 12:01 AM
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Why was Facebook created? To find out who was single, in a relationship, and how you could hook up with others... that's what it was created for. actually it was created because Mark Zuckerberg wanted to connect with his college dorm mates. "To say 80/20 rule, it doesn't really apply... it's 90/10 right now (even based on your own talking points it's 95/5)." you can never know the exact number, I'm just pointing out is an uneven distribution. ". Even better yet, the author of the article when de…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 10:10 PM
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I doubt facebook was used for that to the same degree as Tinder which has 50 million+ users. 80/20 is proven by a lot of studies and data from dating apps, this one is the most important. it's hard data, not self-report BS either. attractiveness follows a normal distribution on dating apps, and people can be ranked from most to least attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 09:22 PM
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I don't think you realize tinder didn't have to come into being or become popular, it's a byproduct of advancing technological possibilities and feminism encouraging women to be promiscuous and low-value. women on tinder really aren't treating an average looking guy the same as an attractive guy, did you know women do swipe left on 95% of the profiles they see on tinder? and that's not because those guys haven't got a good enough bio or pictures, that's all a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 08:47 PM
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"Things will be more favorable toward men soon." that doesn't necessarily need to be the case, it's a matter of how much more we're going to let feminism devalue women and society at large. Also how many women are into hookup culture and ruining the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 08:01 PM
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they want someone that gives them free supply, but at the same time they want 'the ideal love', so they keep looking out for better options. Their relationships are very ambivalent and transactional and dysfunctional, but since society at large is narcissistic they work out, because narcissists all have the same mindset, so they understand each other on a fundamental level and tolerate each other more.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 07:32 PM
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"Set aside the fact that I personally believe true love really exists - does anybody else think this TRP thinking is undercomplex? And that value is a inherently subjective term, even "though pricing may be not?" Afaik TRP has nothing to do with the existence of SMV but yes, if people'd leave each other alone more as to what they find attractive and stop gaslighting, that would be good. Value and attraction are indeed subjective, but SMV isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 08:32 PM
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this. communities seem to be popping up everywhere and becoming more important.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 09:49 PM
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and when you do put yourself first, you might end up in an environment where you can find a partner who is doing that too and shares your values, beliefs systems and has a compatible lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 03:05 AM
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tinder launched as a dating app and quickly became known a hookup app. vulnerable and malignant aren't degrees, they are types. a vulnerable narcissist can oscillate to grandiose states, which isn't to say that's a 'worse' form of narcissism, it's different. calling someone a narcissist doesn't mean they have NPD, cuz only 1% of people actually have NPD, whereas probably the vast majority of people have narcissistic traits nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 02:28 PM
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you tell me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 02:25 PM
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tinder launched as a dating app and quickly became known a hookup app. narcissism is a spectrum. NPD is a clinical diagnosis. DT traits means subclinical narcissism, machiavallianism and psychopathy. On the high end of the spectrum would be malignant narcissism, on the low end vulnerable narcissism. There are no degrees to the diagnosis, although NPD has more grandiose than vulnerable traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 01:14 AM
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tinder launched as a dating app and quickly became known a hookup app. narcissism is a spectrum. NPD is a clinical diagnosis. DT traits means subclinical narcissism, machiavallianism and psychopathy. On the high end of the spectrum would be malignant narcissism, on the low end vulnerable narcissism.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 01:13 AM
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don't think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 01:09 AM
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only if you want it to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 01:02 AM
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"Which is pretty common nowadays". do you have evidence for this? I know a thing or two about narcissism, it's a spectrum. people on dating apps are higher on the spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 12:59 AM
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mostly narcissistic women use them, Tinder is the main hookup app.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 12:50 AM
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to me, being low-value mostly means being narcissistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 12:43 AM
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a narcissistic man without a personality, though the FDS definition would be the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 12:22 AM
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yeah promiscuity makes a woman low-value imo. Cluster B attracts cluster B and that's the way it should B.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 12:17 AM
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character-based.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 12:13 AM
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a low value man not understanding TRP?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 12:13 AM
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on women that go on hookup apps. I know also that this is just a subset of women, not all women go on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 12:12 AM
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pretty much, they like to have it more frequently than HVW. probably getting downvoted for saying it but its true. nothing wrong with it, to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 11:53 PM
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LVW do
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 11:22 PM
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that's gonna get u a LVW at best, but they're probably meant to be with and feel most comfortable around LVM anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 11:15 PM
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yes. some LVW just want to see that the problem is 'fixed'
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 09:25 AM
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it's in table 3, shows autistic men have less sex than the control group. they might not have accounted for the fact that asexuality is higher for invididuals with ASD as well though. I'm diagnosed ASD and I'd say I have a profoundly different view on sexuality than others, for me sharing a bond with someone is more important.
/r/BlackPillScience17/10/21 07:30 PM
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the negative nature of everyone*, women are as psychopathic at heart as men. just expressing it differently, less violently normally. You put anyone in a position of power, like women on dating apps, they're gonna act entitled and shitty. famous example would be the stanford prison experiment but this is proven in psychology, there's a societal rise in narcissism, psychopathy and sadism so what's there really to do but enjoy the decline while working towards a goal that you've set.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 07:25 PM
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this. I feel like people with different values/goals/political beliefs can often not even communicate on the same level.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 06:02 PM
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they're important, but it's pointless to dwell on that fact. I'm not blackpilled but the incels got that stuff right.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 05:36 PM
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they are, I just doubt the validity of these self-report studies. 40% of people have sex 2-3 times a week, seems like a pretty high number to me, given that 20% of the men supposedly have 50-60% of the sex according to a recent study.
/r/BlackPillScience17/10/21 05:26 PM
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looks are important and related to social status. being attractive gives you a lot of free passes in life. facial symmetry, large jawline, prominent brow ridge, feminized face shape etc are considered attractive. I agree that western women have quite a big ego though. Seems to me like looks are just the bottom line, but it's really not enough, good personality, good career, money, status are all prerequisites, but looks are by far the most important.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 05:10 PM
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7 out of 8 people are introverts, even some extraverts struggle with social anxiety which is pretty devastating. it points out that western society puts big emphasis on extraversion, even though the research literature (which is already biased towards western, more extraverted societies) doesn't support that it's a virtue in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 09:04 PM
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I got it from this video, Dr Ramani is a professor of psychology, expert on narcissism and licensed psychologist so she would be a pretty good authority on the subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 08:42 PM
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dating studies have found that it's true that women really aren't held to the same standards in OLD, and it's the average that matters. 72% of men aren't game addicts and neets, but 7 out of 8 people are introverts. they just aren't as prominent on social media and OLD. Men are being directly compared to one another, thanks to online dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 08:16 PM
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it just won't improve your social skills, they should be improved in gradual steps, trying improv rightaway would be too big of a step.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 08:02 PM
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someone who is struggling with social skills shouldn't attempt improv, rather find a hobby and pursue it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 06:22 PM
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I don't mind that but I dislike hypocrisy, intellectual dishonesty and pathological lying. it often leads to willful ignorance.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 06:07 PM
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yes. dumb men also. one narcissist can drag down an entire group or society. it just takes a small amount of delusional feminists to create a society where stupidity, narcissism and psychopathy get rewarded while the most anyone does to stop it is writing some angry tweet about it. high-end narcissists can do a lot of damage.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 12:23 AM
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quite the opposite, women only judge a man who is acting badly negatively when that man isn't physically attractive, it's called the 'double-devil effect'. also, a physically attractive person will get assigned other positive traits, known as the halo effect
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 04:53 PM
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this. in self-report studies there's always a social desirability bias and even if it wasn't for that,most people probably wouldn't be honest due to being egodystonic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 03:08 AM
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I agree, here is a quote from Epictetus: "There is only one way to happiness and that is to cease worrying about things which are beyond the power of our will."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 01:31 AM
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here's the okc blog from 2010, have you gone on OLD? maybe you were just unlucky so far, because this data shows height is really important, a guy who is 6 feet 1 gets 2x more messages than a guy who is 5 feet 5 (18.5 cm difference)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 03:04 PM
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yes. also, all women have this much access, not just the women who go on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 02:56 PM
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ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 10:12 PM
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I'm good.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 09:45 PM
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the data are supporting my claim and it's not biased, otherwise I wouldn't be making this claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 09:01 PM
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if your point is that the 95/5 distribution is true, then yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 08:43 PM
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there's no narrative and no bias, you're just gatekeeping falsehoods.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 08:29 PM
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no critical thought needed when the data isn't biased.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 02:08 PM
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tinder data is not biased.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 12:32 AM
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true, most men need to lower their expectations
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 09:41 PM
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he just points out the 95/5 distribution, watch from 33:00
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 04:53 PM
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the app itself is free but for an average person to have succes u need gold, boosts, to have 1% of the matches of someone who is 10% more attractive than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 03:50 AM
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"Tinder is in the business of creating long lasting relationships; think again. " that is the problem with all dating sites and apps, people are actually getting perks for getting more matches, so it's a very uneven distribution meant to create hookups for the top 5-20% of most attractive men, not LTRs.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 03:35 AM
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what I'm saying is, the collective narcissism comes out in dating as hypergamy because everyone feels like they deserve better so it becomes a 'race to the top'
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 11:24 PM
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it's the tendency to exaggerate the positive image and importance of a group to which one belongs, also ostracizing people that don't belong to one's group.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 11:15 PM
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Online dating is a HUGE part of the full range of dating, that's the entire point you just cannot grasp. I understand very well that your narcissism and stupidity caused you to learn psychological terms that you really don't understand the meaning of to project and gaslight your own insecurities, hiding your own confirmation bias. did you check if you have a brain yet?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 10:07 PM
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it does suggest that women want hookups. men do too, I didnt say they didn't. it's correct. it doesn't matter who lies more when women have virtually always the last say in OLD, and the toxic preferences come out. only caring about height, looks, masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 10:00 PM
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i'm extrapolating from people to people regardless of whether they're using dating apps. online dating does cover the full variation of people, in spite of some 'types' of people being overrepresented like cluster B-types. you failed at your one chance in life to apply a term you learned in college even though you no clue what it means. the reason there's an unequal gender ratio is the same one that the 80/20 rule is true. you might wanna check if you have a brain before writing another comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 09:54 PM
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what about all of evoluationary psychology proves that? see dual mating. men and women lie equally but it's not the same when there's a toxic power differential in favor of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 09:43 PM
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I'm not extrapolating it to chimps, I'm extrapolating it to people around the world, specifically in western societies that really have the same dating culture. Someone from the US can literally match with someone from Australia on tinder in a heartbeat. Even a country like Saudi Arabia has tinder. Please learn the correct plural of the word penis, cuz in your circles that's a useful thing to know it seems.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 09:37 PM
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it seems as though there's a toxic societal tendency in a lot of cultures to stigmatize being single or a virgin though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 09:01 PM
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of course it's increasing, all one needs to do is look at the data from dating apps. collective narcissism is bad and creates scapegoats and oppression of minorities in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 08:26 PM
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because it's partly their nature and the 3rd wave of feminism is probably a big influence (sexual liberation). ofc the technology just amplifies that. plenty of guys are looking for relationships, if you knew the laws of economics, you'd understand that it's easy with the click of a button to filter out guys that aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 07:45 PM
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you're failing miserably on stats. there's no selection bias, actually 30% is a very good sample size. 10% is already a good sample size. they gotta update those damn stats courses, you're not getting anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 07:41 PM
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nope. honestly, a lot of religious people and americans don't really understand statistics. this doesn't leave out demographics, it includes demographics.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 07:39 PM
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'succesful in love'? you're just completely losing it now. again, this is all Americans and I didn't talk about being partnered or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 07:37 PM
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Tinder became a hookup app because women wanted that. there are plenty of ways to ghost, cut off or get off the app, plus anyone with a brain can expect that men on dating apps are high in DT traits. it's very easy for them to get relationships on dating sites or apps, plenty of guys on there are looking for that and you can just ignore the ones that aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 07:34 PM
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10% is a good sample size, so what would 30% be? pretty good.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 07:31 PM
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a sample is usually a minority compared to the entire population, yeah. thought u knew what sample meant though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 07:28 PM
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your understanding is pretty poor if you think this sample isn't representative or that it's biased. there are online statistics courses available though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 07:26 PM
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if they want a hookup they can get it, but if they want a relationship instead they can have that too. Tinder didn't become a hookup app because women wanted relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 07:19 PM
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I didn't even mention people that have or haven't partnered up with someone. just said 30% of people use online dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 07:15 PM
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this data is in the US across all ages. might not be representative of some pygmy tribe, but it's a good indicator for dating in the west and much of the entire world now.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 07:07 PM
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"I doubt you can say much about "true nature" when the majority of women don't even use OLD. " of course you can, the data is extremely clear on this. I've yet to see a psychology study that sampled the entire human population, "when all anyone has to go on is a few pictures and short bio for example." you don't have to go on anything. as someone pointed out here recently, women are the gatekeepers of sex so the reason tinder exists as a hookup app is largely because women want it. toxic prefere…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 06:36 PM
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yes it's not like irl dating is easy for anyone but the most attractive men, women know they can just go on OLD and have a variety of options, it's supply and demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 05:52 PM
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yeah not really, take it from this researcher
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 04:30 PM
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why would they be a biased group? it's 30% of the people who go on OLD, but that's not a biased group.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 04:30 PM
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you didn't say that, try harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 04:24 PM
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"Most dudes around the western world are doing just fine, and they're fucking women as I type this, attractive women at that, because they don't spend their lives away online complaining about women and making an autisticic moron out of themselves by claiming that women are only attracted to the top 20% top 15% top 10% and top 5% and top 1% of men." you seem jealous that I have done just that as an autistic person by using OLD. but sometimes in life u gotta be the right person at the right place…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 04:20 PM
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you seem envious of red pillers, how cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 04:17 PM
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nope you didn't get anything. it's not being laid bare, supply and demand was always there. now it's being amplified by OLD
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 07:28 AM
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it's the other way around, dating apps and sites are enabling supply and demand mechanics and increasing female hypergamy transformatively.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 07:18 AM
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that's really where it's going until this toxic feminism wave is over.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 07:12 AM
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superficiality is conceptualized as relying on first impressions and immediate judgments. LVW on dating apps swipe left 95% of profiles on tinder, and they don't take long to do it. it's all about physical attractiveness, height, socio-economic status is also a big one. Men could be superficial in different ways but judging people on looks alone is toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 10:43 PM
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the argument is mostly true, as the 80/20 rule is proven by data from dating apps. it shouldn't be used as an excuse to use violence though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 10:20 PM
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agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 05:39 PM
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because or narcissism. narcissists know deep down that their 'attractiveness' (only to other narcs)/sexuality is the only thing they really bring to the table (they have the personality of a toddler), so they shouldn't give it out easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 12:34 AM
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yeah some people date down because of that, but honestly assortive mating is the best option, and don't just look at appearance because if 1 partner does that, then so will the other one and it's not a solid foundation for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 12:20 AM
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it's a shame, cuz it's not the first I noticed it happening, this sub is going to shit now.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 12:10 AM
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people want better than their 'looksmatches' (usually 25% more attractive than themselves) for the same reason western society as a whole revolves around appearances and attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 11:41 PM
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they don't allow link dropping when they don't agree with the post, otherwise it's fine apparently. so much absolute BS goes through.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 11:33 PM
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I've literally seen posts linking tweets as 'science'. this post was pretty well written-out, just goes against the hive mind like a bunch of other posts that get deleted for that reason on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 11:30 PM
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this was a very good, science-based post.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 11:18 PM
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"Good looks is an enormous advantage. Because of halo effect attractive people are attributed with positive qualities by others, like honesty and intellectual abilities." in actual reality though, there is a link between attractiveness and dishonesty (with narcissism as a common denominator)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 03:50 PM
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incels shouldn't blame others for their own problems imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 09:12 PM
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yes, I can still have it when I'm 60 which is when I'll probably start to develop enough social skills to have a relationship lmao. I'm super isolated.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 11:26 PM
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what science?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 05:01 PM
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I have pointed out in my other comment that I don't, the self-report study is more reliable than this data.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 12:14 AM
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yeah I don't know, seems like someone just put in their personal data so it's not saying much about the general distribution, fact remains the 80/20 rule has more or less been proven by now.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 08:48 PM
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I think it is from a custom app someone built to extract swipe stats from someone's personal tinder data. I saw the 60/20 study too, and I don't think it's completely wrong. it's possible to experimentally extrapolate, knowing that feminists would twist the data anyway even if it was 20/60. "do other dudes really swipe right on half of girls? Not doubting it but that seems hilariously high." I think they do and always have done since the beginning of OLD based on the studies I've seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 08:32 PM
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yes but we also know that women tend to downplay their own promiscuity and that study was self-reported iirc, so the 95/5 data based on swipes (from this year) could be saying more.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 08:19 PM
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naivety and existential dread.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 04:50 PM
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yes, I'd say LVW don't really appreciate the amount of energy it might take to approach them when they're barely open to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 08:28 PM
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yes that is the narrative. but choice causes anxiety. girls feel deep down they aren't really entitled to rejecting 19 out of 20 guys, and they aren't. so it actually devalues women by creating the illusion that they can and should get away with anything: sadism, poor hygiene, being hyper entitled, immature,stealing money. this just doesn't relate to reality and they end up having to pursue a 'HVM', while the HVM should really be pursuing them. of course not all women are going on dating apps an…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 06:09 PM
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they're devaluing women to a point they think guys need to be convinced to marry them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 05:54 PM
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"I would suggest that there are a significant amount of male/female relationships out there right now where the guy is just trying to stay out of the doghouse, do proper 'girlfriend maintenance' to keep her happy, and lives a lonely life of never getting to actually be honest about his feelings, because he knows he'll get in trouble for it, and potentially risk losing her approval. " yes, giving into this sadism / hoop jumping is detrimental to your mental health and won't change her behavior, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 05:49 PM
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yes, narcissists have higher political participation. doesn't mean all people interested in politics are narcissists. it could also be shared religious beliefs, or shared values.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 05:40 PM
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it's not like a guy need to be convinced to marry a girl, they're getting it completely wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 05:29 PM
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within feminist circles that is encouraged under the guise of 'sexual liberation', or even frowned upon when someone is not promiscuous. there was a study posted here a week or so ago that showed college women are promiscuous because they 'wanted to improve their chance of finding a long-term mate'. apparently, that's because some guys nowadays don't want to date a woman with a low n-count.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 01:04 AM
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I'm not saying there's no choice, it's cultural enabling. click on those links, you've clearly not got a clue what you're talking about. one example of promoting promiscuity (I don't have any fragments but they sometimes literally say that's a good thing), is the massive blame-shifting, lying, gaslighting (pretending all men are rapists), while failing to acknowledge that there are underlying psychological reasons (narcissism, borderline, sadism), external reasons (technology, social media). all…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 12:45 AM
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pretty much all mainstream media and social media adhere to a left-wing feminist narrative in western societies, continuing on the 2nd wave of feminism and sexual liberation in the 60s, over here on reddit there's r/FemaleDatingStrategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 12:36 AM
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yes but women are making the choice to be promiscuous in part because society at large (feminism) is enabling this and promoting that narrative. although I do agree that they are just exercising their free will. the birth control pill has also influenced this. it seems almost taboo to discuss today's women's promiscuity though, which is just a statistical fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 12:28 AM
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"but if one is better in most people’s eyes," what's your source that 'most people' think it's 'good' that a lot of women are promiscuous nowadays? seems to me like a small number of extremely low-value feminists are promoting this idea and claiming all the attention. there are still enough women who don't go along with this though (nawalt), even though a shit ton of irrepairable damage has been done by feminism to western societies and women's value.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 11:54 PM
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blue collar jobs won't really get automated anytime soon. I don't think there is a wage gap, more like a skill gap. men tend to be the ones who work just a little bit harder and better on average, at least before the 3rd wave of feminism. with women replacing men across all fields of the labour market, there's gonna be a new equilibrium. this could be bad as women are sometimes not willing to fully take on the responsibilities that come with high-paying jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 09:53 PM
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"I think japan is different because there its more that the bar for a man is set so high that a lot give up and throw away thier value which creates this lack of paring" what is this assumption based on?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 08:14 PM
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your siblings aren't representative of the entire world. your sister-in-law changing her beliefs is more likely due to her narcissism. people are equally narcissistic across the political spectrum. if you go by the five-factor model of personality (FFM), which is a scientific model that works globally, you'd see that 2 people that are both high on the trait of openness to experience, which includes the facet of liberalism, match well. (political) conversations flow more easily because creative m…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 05:58 PM
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due to status. just like in the 80s rock stars had long hair and wore makeup and looked like women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 05:48 PM
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prob nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 05:32 PM
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yes this is a good description of the average LVW and most women on this sub. except maybe the last point doesn't hold up, sharing the same ideology/beliefs could actually be a good ground for a relationship imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 08:17 PM
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"and the access to his finances (which are on average better)" that's why you can marry under prenuptial agreement, but I don't think it's a good idea either. the whole concept of marriage should go.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 08:07 PM
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scroll up and read the data dumb fag.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 05:58 PM
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pickiness is a toxic thing. it's causing any but the most attractive men to not have a chance in OLD.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 05:58 PM
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or.. do tinder and other dating apps amplify and reveal women's toxic preferences in a way that's irreversible, after all 30% of people go on OLD and there's no clear distinction between those that do and dont.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 12:40 AM
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if women on tinder rejecting 95% of guys on tinder isn't pickiness, idk what is. yes this same type of women will go on reddit and youtube and be rude towards incels and men who're less succesful with women to get their narcissistic supply. the correct response is to point out this hypocrisy and that they're not really holding themselves to the same standards when it comes to attractiveness, I find them very offputting and they're killing all sexual energy too if you look at it objectively.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 12:07 AM
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the dehumanization of incels and extreme pickiness and hypocrisy of LVW, the same women who chase extremely attractive men with a lot of money and of high status, is pretty common.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 11:04 PM
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it's 0.2% cuz girls match with 2% of guys, then a lot of those guys they don't respond to, ghost, or don't show up to the date. it's not made up, it's tinder data from this year pulled from their huge userbase of 50million+ people, u fucking dumb cunt.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 07:59 PM
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I literally explained that in the other comment. the gender ratio is even 80/20, but the data shows that women just reject 95% of men on tinder, then they could unmatch or ghost someone or not show up to the date.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 06:24 PM
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1 in 500 chance. like a lottery is in 1 in 50 million chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 06:17 PM
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of going on 1 date over a given timespan.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 06:09 PM
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1 in 500 is very bad. it doesn't matter how many swipes it is, I'm talking about the chance to go on a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 05:54 PM
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don't even say anything that dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 05:53 PM
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I'd seek out the right one because that's the only logical thing to do with or without internet. OLD just amplifies people's grim nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 10:42 PM
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1 in 500 means a 0.2% chance of going on 1 date. didn't think I'd have to explain that simple a statistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 10:34 PM
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a girl could even still reject a guy after there's a match, actually that's extremely common. and girls only match with 2% of guys. what does that leave us with? for an average guy to even go on a first date with a girl, it could be as small as a 1 in 500 chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 10:24 PM
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also, new tinder data shows women instantly reject 95% of guys on tinder, men only reject 50% of women and this is unrelated to how many women there are. if there were more women on tinder, men would still reject 50% according to studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 09:33 PM
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data confirm it. it has nothing to do with money, anyone can set up a tinder with a 30 dollar phone. women are very picky now, because they have more choice available. if you can't follow this simple of a logic you must be retarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 07:22 PM
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yes. it's the narcissistic mentality that says 'it's never good enough'. Meanwhile, what women bring to the table personality wise a lot of the time isn't much.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 06:06 PM
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it's women being lookist and having quite high and unrealistic expectations due to having it easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 05:09 PM
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right, you should never listen to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 07:31 PM
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just edited my comment, read it. it HASN'T been this uneven of a distribution. the gap between men that didn't have sex and women that didn't has grown since about 2010.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 07:13 PM
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"the top 20% of the most sexually active never-married young men have about 50-60% of the sex." also, given that women are hypergamous, you can deduce an additional 20-30% would go for these men but never end up sleeping with them, which confirms the 80/20 distribution. it's simple statistics, not some incel fabrication. okc data prove this. I don't believe this has been the case for decades, it might've been an uneven distribution but OLD amplifies this. "Female sexual frequency is essentially …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 07:04 PM
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move on to where? OLD isn't worth it for average looking people, neither is IRL dating. a lot of people here are saying IRL dating is completely different but I've yet to hear a good argument to support that. it's gotten objectively harder over recent decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 12:42 AM
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but irl dating isn't simple either, nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 12:08 AM
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yes. twitter is a narcissism playground
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 05:47 PM
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anyone who denies this is labeled a misogynist, but what does that word even mean? society as a whole is misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 11:16 PM
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some 1st world countries are basically just 3rd world countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 11:11 PM
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agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 10:09 PM
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"The bigger the circle is the ratio of "earning" goes more into the favor of top performers." so what? "This is a scenario in which high men and women win, average/low men and women lose... we are increasingly competing with our own gender." women aren't competing to be honest. "what she really wants is his commitment." the data show that that's not what they want. this is the AF/BB idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 08:04 PM
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"Some people just brush off feeling wronged, others don’t" it's typical of narcissistic BPD people to BLAME OTHERS for their hurt feelings, rather than blaming themselves. You're very ignorant about cluster B personality disorders for someone who's diagnosed with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 07:10 PM
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"Like I said there is correlations just like there is with other mental disorders." no. there is no correlation with other mental disorders, there is correlation with CLUSTER B personality disorders. AGAIN, The correlation between Cluster B personality disorders in women and misandry exists, because it's a COMFORTABLE NARRATIVE.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 07:07 PM
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that wasn't my argument, I just mentioned cluster B women and misandrists in the same breath because there is a strong correlation. LOOK UP the difference between correlation and causation. Feeling wronged by men does not equate to misandry. everyone gets wronged sometimes in their life. Misandry requires a certain naivety and stupidity, I'd say.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 06:58 PM
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cluster B women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 06:45 PM
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what's your point? the best performers earn the most money as in any business. There's no one holding a gun to their head telling them to partake in this business, go get an education and a job.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 06:40 PM
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they represent the vast majority of women on dating apps which is 30% of women so don't act like that's a small minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 06:34 PM
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I agree. modern education ignores uncomfortable life truths and the left has hijacked academia. The gender pay gap is BS and the truth is that it's easier for women to find and keep a job, especially in those fields with few women (IT, tech, business/finance).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 06:26 PM
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they are not bots, if that's what you're implying. Yes these women exist in real life (unfortunately) and are free to engage in this childish misandrist and narcissistic behavior. A lot of what's posted on r/FemaleDatingStrategy isn't just some theory but deals with real-life issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 06:21 PM
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what they're really looking for is physical attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 05:44 PM
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the comment has 7 grammar mistakes. unjustified compliments feed into narcissism, you should just be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 05:34 PM
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OnlyFans isn't a negative thing, it satisfies NEEDS of some men AND some histrionic cluster B women. either way, it's beside the point because it simply exists. "which means that average girl is going to get less attention and simping." it's women who are setting the bar stupid high, not men (okcupid data) Modern men should stop being cowardly and jump through hoops that sadistic narcissistic LVW set for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 05:14 PM
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crystallized intelligence is, because it's related to better paying jobs and higher positions in businesses. studies show that women select for intelligence, but I think the okc data and other studies have shown clearly that it's far less important than physical attractiveness. the studies show that men want women that are less intelligent than themselves. (again, this is probably crystallized intelligence). this is why you shouldn't go off a single study like the one linked in the post that say…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 06:57 PM
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most people don't get that fluid intelligence, which is more rare in adults, is actually what makes a person smart. especially blue pill will assign high IQs (which is a meaningless concept anyway) to people with crystallized intelligence (the ability to memorize things, every kid can do this)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 06:32 PM
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and that's why they assign the traits. narcissists create an idealized image of their partner that they have to justify.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 08:56 PM
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morality is relative. You would cheat with a hot woman given the right circumstances. don't be so ridiculously hypocrite, it's cringe.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 08:55 PM
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LVW will assign masculine traits to a physically attractive guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 05:56 PM
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this
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 05:21 PM
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no. check out the PPD survey, just 3% is under 18 years old.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 04:44 PM
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I never said everyone was a cheater. but it's a lot more relative than you want to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 04:41 PM
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not the point, but if you grew up there you would 100% have different morals because of culture differences.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 11:42 PM
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"Where does my post say this?" And I'm not even saying I'd rescue jewish people because IDK what it's like to not be part of a class that's heavily discriminated against "but they are not specific to the community I'm in." yes they are. go to saudi arabia and see what kind of morals they have there.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 11:02 PM
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but she also has the right NOT to, is the point. feminism will frame it as girls being exploited by companies, but that's not really what's going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 10:47 PM
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"Huh? Where does my post even imply this?" you 'don't know' what someone out of your social class might be experiencing. that's a cop out. For instance, it's interesting to see the reaction of german townspeople upon seeing the remains of a nazi concentration camp. "Morals are specific to a person." and to the community the person lives in. these townspeople are the same people who elected hitler.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 09:56 PM
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"And I'm not even saying I'd rescue jewish people because IDK what it's like to not be part of a class that's heavily discriminated against," so you'd only rescue people in your own social class.. that's extremely hypocrite and dumb. "Everyone just has a different set of morals." the literal definition of morals is shared values in a community. your morals would be different in a different community or era.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 09:24 PM
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yes. it's about accepting the fact that women select men up dominance hierarchies, not down. there really isn't a woman in the world who's going to choose a fat neckbeard addicted to porn and videogames if she can get better.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 09:15 PM
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yes. it's about accepting the fact that women select men up dominance hierarchies, not down. there really isn't a woman in the world who's going to choose a fat neckbeard addicted to porn and videogames if she can get better.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 09:14 PM
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"Holy projection Batman!" maybe if you wouldn't tell everyone else they're projecting it would make it little less obvious it's YOU who is projecting. "Why would you say that? " because statistically it's highly unlikely. morality doesn't exist in a vacuum. if everyone got wiped out and it was only you and the hot girl, you probably would do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 09:06 PM
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"If the most attractive woman I can think of contacted me and wanted to have sex and no one would find out I still wouldn't do it." sure.. people aren't moral. morality is relative. what happened in 1930s germany? you wouldn't be that guy who rescued jews, especially if you go around saying how 'moral' you are. that makes you even less likely to actually be moral.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 08:28 PM
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because u/John_Oakman's comment was about OnlyFans. It's not about sex work, because that indeed has been around forever. It's about the fact that women on OnlyFans are basically sex workers, but don't want to admit this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 08:03 PM
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I don't remember only fans was around decades ago, it wasn't even around 5 years ago. Seems to me like a girl has the choice to sign up on OnlyFans, right? There's no one holding a gun to her head telling her to do it, in most cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 07:57 PM
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this
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 07:47 PM
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you do, probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 11:43 PM
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stop sleeping with a different guy every week. it's gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 11:19 PM
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if you think that, that just confirms the opposite for me. seriously get fucking real. you don't have a clue what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 11:17 PM
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"y best interactions with sex have been serendipitous and highly based on a chemical reaction my body has gone through, upon meeting someone, IN PERSON, who I found attractive (good looks or not)." Lol, you're proving my point. you only go off physical attractiveness (chemical reaction). ​ "It seems like you're using statistics to confirm your insecurities as a man" It seems like you're denying statistics to soften your promiscuity as a low-value woman. ​ I've seen way more ugly guys with 8's, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 10:56 PM
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"OLD is a facet of redpill thinking" lol. as a red piller I'm actually glad OLD exists even though I'm not happy with its current state. Men do care what you write in your profile, as a matter of fact that makes it a lot easier for us to have a conversation. the good pictures argument is BS too, it doesn't make any difference what kind of pics you have, from personal experience. you don't get a sense of energy from looking at a picture on your phone, what's really going on is your judging how go…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 09:54 PM
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that's like saying thermometers are bad at measuring temperature. it's not that the hottest people get the most results, only the hottest people get actual results. men do get less likes than women. it's up to them to match with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 09:08 PM
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they don't like men because they like themselves a lot more. it's not inflated, dating apps simply reveal the preferences. women want a tall, masculine, handsome guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 08:46 PM
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I'm actually calling women on dating apps out on their lookism. because OLD has shown that women are more lookist than men. Also, don't talk about philosophies you don't understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 08:28 PM
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the first law of technology: "Technology is neither good nor bad; nor is it neutral."
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 08:24 PM
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I observe facts. The okc data speak for themselves. women raise the bar as more choices are available (paradox of choice), you could say not everyone uses OLD but its and social media's effect are huge and probably irreversible.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 09:20 PM
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interesting, I think a lot of people underestimate the huge effect parents have on their children, as pointed out in the documentary
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 09:17 PM
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perfection wasn't always the top of the range, OLD and social media shifted the dating landscape and raised the bar. a few decades ago you didn't have to be actor-level attractive to have a chance in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 08:18 PM
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shittier communication technology*. 15 years ago there already was social media and OLD that was as good as today's. technology is neutral and will conform to society. it's society that needs to change. it's the result of feminism. Dating apps could work, but narcissistic SJW's make them not worth using rn.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 07:42 PM
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it's still a term that isn't used much. like it's normal to call people misogynysts when they simply promote traditional gender roles. Invent as many meaningless terms as you like, it won't change reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 06:47 PM
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that is not an ideology
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 06:13 PM
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but it's not even "how to attract me". I've learned that people who identify with any subreddit or ideology are not to be taken seriously at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 10:34 PM
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so what? tinder is a hookup app since the start.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 11:07 PM
1

this. hypergamy originally refers to social class but today that's barely a factor anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 09:42 PM
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that's subjective but 30% is not insignificant in my opinion. OLD didn't really become a thing till 20 years ago. it really exposed the lying nature and high demands people have.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 06:51 PM
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height matters (okcupid data). a man who is 6.1 gets twice as many messages as a guy who is 5.5
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 06:31 PM
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the ratio wasn't always 4:1, at the start it was 4:3. I guess when guys knew that it was a hookup app, a lot more joined and women left cuz of it. the bots are max 20% (also stats from google)., but probably closer to 1-5% of the profiles (from personal experience). it's also a myth that there are a lot of prostitutes on tinder, it's more like a lot of women on it would seem to be hard to distinguish from prostitutes in quite a few ways (like low sexual disgust). 50 million active users, 120 mil…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 06:23 PM
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it's about accepting facts, being realistic and rationality. like I said manipulation of and by women is happening a lot nowadays, so it's not specific to the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 08:26 PM
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how does that relate to men having manipulated women throughout human history? it doesn't even prove that men manipulated women in 1994. also women having less power doesn't automatically mean men manipulate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 07:16 PM
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you provide a source that men manipulating women was always normal throughtout human history. the narcissism epidemic has made it so that people manipulate each other now.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 07:09 PM
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you seem very obsessed with a philosophy that's growing and that you'll never understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 05:25 PM
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narcissism is related to low inhibitions/adherance to social norms, sexual openness. narcissists actually have nothing but their sexuality, they don't have an actual personality. plus they're 'attention whoring' like someone else pointed out.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 05:23 PM
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nope
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 05:19 PM
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society makes people blue pilled so I'd say the vast majority of people is. no, it's only in recent decades become normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 05:18 PM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 02:38 AM
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it's a 'law' that says 'women rule society'. that's it. I don't know who takes this seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 02:34 AM
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was a mistake, fixed it. it's about black pill ideology and goes into its underlying concepts.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 02:31 AM
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"RP is a knowledge". what? I don't know how many scientific articles on it there need to be to qualify as a "philosophy" in your book, but I would say a philosophy that's based on real science is not incoherent.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 02:30 AM
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Briffault's law is not a part of TRP, it's part of the black pill which incorporates pseudoscience into TRP
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 02:23 AM
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you didn't give any arguments in the post. also, a red piller wouldn't say "women, taken as an average, tend to display more hypergamous traits than men." and "Every woman will leave her partner if she can find a more attractive alpha becuase she is hardwired to do so." because men and women are equally hypergamous and not every woman would, though the average woman would. Time to take intro to statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 02:14 AM
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red pill and black pill actually are starting to appear in academic journals. blue pill however is not, since it's not a philosophy. I don't even know what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 02:02 AM
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14% is not a high number. Tinder is known as a hookup app since the start.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 10:33 PM
2

just 14% of relationships through tinder ended in marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 10:30 PM
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there's gonna be some red pill people that condone PUAs and manipulating or even emotionally abusing women. but what I get from the blue pill (which most people are) is just lies, also manipulation of women and toxicity.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 09:23 PM
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I"m not interpreting anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 09:19 PM
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it's not an argument it's the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 09:17 PM
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most of the shit topics (the 'cmv' topics making a false claim and then asking people to prove it.) are actually from bluepill people. these posters usually don't know the difference between red and blue pill and think red pill is about misogyny and incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 08:59 PM
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to everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 08:48 PM
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yes there are bots on tinder, they account for maybe 1% of profiles. I'm talking about tinder being a hookup app, which is common knowledge. and don't get me wrong, all dating apps and sites are full of LVW
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 08:31 PM
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it's a hookup app
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 08:28 PM
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it's a hookup app and the fact that quite a few women use it shows the insane narcissism level in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 08:10 PM
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I didn't respond to that part because I just respond to things that somehow relate to facts and reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 08:09 PM
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Tinder ALWAYS was a hookup app. "And since they aren't really representative of the female population as a whole, you can't really draw any broad conclusions about women from them." 30% of people use OLD so that's a siginificant amount. it has changed the dating landscape big-time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 07:33 PM
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"That's because there are still a lot of naïve women, thinking they can find a "decent guy" there," everyone knows Tinder is a hookup app. ​ "The ratios show that women tend to prefer Hinge and Match, once they've had some dating app experience." but why did they go to the hookup app first, and then to the 'normal' dating apps? ​ "Also, there's always the validation factor, and the "Everyone else is on Tinder, and I just don't want to feel left out!" thing" you just said only 1 of 4 tinder users…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 07:14 PM
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I don't know what it's supposed to be but it is a hookup app, and there would be no Tinder without a good amount of women wanting to use it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 06:52 PM
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"Women often feel disgust at the thought of having sex with a man she doesn't completely know and trust." that must be why Tinder exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 06:37 PM
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and that women are extremely selective on them. men are equally selective regardless of the amount of options.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 09:44 PM
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dating apps are a significant factor in the modern dating scene. they have contributed to modern women's sense of entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 06:12 PM
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yeah, it really is a lot of wading through the BS indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 07:39 PM
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anecdotal evidence doesn't prove anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 07:23 PM
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the thing is, whether someone gets labeled creepy or not, probably depends a lot on how physically attractive that person is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 06:55 PM
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I think that would be the same, but yes it's mostly low-value men and women that use dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 12:07 AM
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dating apps paint a pretty good image of what people find attractive; the bar is set quite high for men. for women, not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 10:30 PM
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isn't that just sex tourism? and that's Thailand, I've never heard of that happening in Eastern Europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 07:48 PM
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this
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 07:05 PM
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" Their standards are lifted to the environment globalism has provided." yeah so with OLD being available everywhere, switching environments won't do anything in itself, though I think culture matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 12:56 AM
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it's pretty much universal. I also don't see how this study proves that 'environment matters'. it just says women become more selective as pool size increases, but that is always true everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 12:33 AM
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but anywhere you go, OLD is available. Even women that aren't on it know it exists and they can go on it to get a more attractive guy than they would in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 12:25 AM
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but if someone is in an environment where he or she has better chances, that boosts their confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 12:01 AM
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I'm pretty sure Bradley Cooper would qualify as that type, as per this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 01:40 PM
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but why is there no dating app that takes these factors into account..
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 09:58 PM
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being overweight is one of the biggest if not the biggest turnoff for men, according to SCIENCE.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 09:56 PM
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why would I have observed you over time?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 09:40 PM
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what?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 09:33 PM
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you barely learn anything in grade school, middle school or high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 09:14 PM
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that's probably average when it comes to attractiveness. I am high O (mid C, A and N, so also average), so I should probably look for a partner like that too (intellectual minded /creative) ,for a spiritually good relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 07:34 PM
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yeah, so you're supposed to bring up an interesting idea, not a dumbfounded statement and then telling people how to change your view.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 07:21 PM
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yeah, so you're supposed to bring up an interesting idea, not a dumbfounded statement and then telling people how to change your view.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 07:20 PM
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yeah, so you're supposed to bring up an interesting idea, not a dumbfounded statement and then telling people how to change your view. I don't know how these kind of posts are allowed
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 07:20 PM
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yeah, so you're supposed to bring up an interesting idea, not a dumbfounded statement and then telling people how to change your view. I don't know how these kind of posts are allowed
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 07:19 PM
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I've noticed the posts of this user are almost always being downvoted (rightly so) except it's a scientific study. I wish the mods could do something about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 12:51 AM
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women generally like men that are high in conscientiousness, relatively high in agreeableness and low in neuroticism. Of course cluster B women want a cluster B man, who would be low in agreeableness.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 06:11 PM
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seems like a pretty accurate diagnosis to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 03:12 AM
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ignorance is bliss.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 03:07 AM
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it's not contrasted, both covert and overt narcissism have traits of low agreeableness, self-centeredness, self-entitlement, need for admiration. Pathological narcissism is when both covert and overt traits are present, which is most of the time but not always. It is not a subcategory of NPD, NPD is an extreme manifestation of narcissistic traits which is mostly grandiose.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 03:07 AM
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it unfortunately is indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 02:59 AM
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I dare say that, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 02:56 AM
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I didn't say she might have NPD, actually I said she probably didn't have it, rather vulnerable narcissism. I call it out because it's ruining this subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 02:54 AM
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I did but I think you wanted me to confirm something that you said maybe, and got very upset when that didn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 02:51 AM
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it's a spectrum of which NPD is the extreme end. damn this isn't rocket science.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 02:49 AM
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if you're not even gonna read this is my last comment. I didn't say they are the ones solely affected by narcissistic traits, I said they have more grandiose than vulnerable traits. a person with subclinical narcissism has more vulnerable than grandiose traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 02:48 AM
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I asked my psychologist with a master and he didn't know shit about narcissism. a PhD knows more, but not everything. ask her about vulnerable narcissism, like someone else said almost everyone has traits of this. maybe 5% of people don't in 2021.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 02:46 AM
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they aren't subcategories, it's always a mix of both but NPD is more grandiose than vulnerable. Grandiose is more extreme and shittier narcissism.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 02:41 AM
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keep thinking that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 02:32 AM
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it's not that big a difference, oscillation means the vulnerable narcissist who doesn't appear very narcissistic could become a grandiose narcissist in very short time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 02:32 AM
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she has one with a PhD, apparently. must be a PhD in women's studies
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 02:28 AM
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it's 100% right.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 02:27 AM
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quote me where I"m saying she needs a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 02:15 AM
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your current vulnerable narcissism that u seem to have could get worse and become NPD because of oscillation and treatment is mostly ineffective against that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 02:11 AM
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https://dailystoic.com/stoicism-love/ he preaches rationality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 02:05 AM
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you might very well have narcissism, but not NPD. you're gatekeeping a lot and keep changing the subject
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 01:57 AM
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Epictetus literally gives dating advice for men (not to date licentious women, now we call them low-value women), not women. this advice is still sound 2000 years later.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 01:52 AM
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she is probably talking about NPD (clinical narcissism). that would make sense because only 1% of people have it and maybe more are undiagnosed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 01:21 AM
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"mostly read by women" women mostly read self-help books by women, afaik Epictetus is a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 01:18 AM
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women don't tend value self-improvement as much as men, in any age.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 12:57 AM
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no. you could be suffering from rape trauma that is causing narcissistic rage. this irrational thinking and pretending anecdotal evidence is real evidence is sad. maybe you should read a few Epictetus books and deal with those emotions instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 12:54 AM
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I dont know the context of that, but if you're using that as anecdotal evidence to prove a point, then I can somewhat understand why someone would say that, and that doesn't make me a misogynyst.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 12:33 AM
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self improvement isn't bound to an age.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 12:26 AM
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I didn't specify that because he didn't mention it, so it could be any of the things he says (height, weight,education) because they were likely all tested against each other individually.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 12:16 AM
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Epictetus's advice is more suited for men.. women are more dependent on their social network and don't tend te be 'lone wolves'
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 12:14 AM
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I mean there must not be? this was a labor analysis.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 11:56 PM
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because they are choosing to be single. they are more sexist than most people on PPD, they say derisive things about men without even backing it up with evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 11:50 PM
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there is no dependent variable, this is just one of the outcomes of the research. height is an important factor in OLD, all other things being equal. this is called labor analysis.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 11:37 PM
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"The question is how much more attractive does it make someone and by what measure." so if you had clicked on the first link you would know.. it's a lot. being 1 inch taller equates to being as much more attractive as when you are making 40k dollars more per year.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 11:29 PM
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this isn't the only study (the research professor in this video is an expert on irrational behavior and has an H-index of 92) showing that women care a lot about height and physical attractiveness in general in OLD. studies also showed that women set the bar for men higher than men do for women, as the available choices increase. this discredits the idea that the bar is set low for men, which is often brought up on this sub, if you look at the actual science.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 10:58 PM
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it's just a term to separate people with DT traits from people without them
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 06:08 PM
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except no one on twitter and instagram wants to see this type of content
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 08:51 PM
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you're the one projecting :)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 07:38 PM
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wow, a misandrist who thinks red pill is misogyny. shocking /s
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 07:20 PM
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at least neckbeard are pretty laidback, while a lot of less attractive (obese) females have toxic personalities, like most women these days frankly. I don't like fatphobia and social stigma around fat women, but it seems that obese women with toxic personalities have it much easier in dating than neckbeards.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 06:46 PM
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the "they are not easy" to spot refers to your claim that you can easily identify narcissists. it's not easy. if theyre posting a lot on social media it makes them more likely to be narcissistic but u still don't know it for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 08:22 PM
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apparently simple facts are exhausting for you. big presence on social media is related to narcissism. also I dont care whether or not your friends/relatives are narcissists, just pointing out your errors. it's not true that 99.99% people aren't narcissists. I would say at least 90% of people nowadays have narcissistic traits. (we are living in a narcissism epidemic)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 08:16 PM
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LVW vs HVW. I do think LVW lie about their n-count due to social desirability bias
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 08:01 PM
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'fully' narcissistic? the first thing you learn when doing research on narcissism, is they aren't easy to spot. however, you also find out that their (irrational) thinking isn't very complex, and they are actually quite predictable and easy to anticipate. if you want to stop succumbing to narcissism this youtube channel is good to learn more about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 07:50 PM
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I agree with the last sentence. it could be, however, that they don't seem narcissistic to YOU because you're their friend/relative or supply.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 07:34 PM
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have you ever heard of vulnerable narcissism? also, posting a lot on social media is a strong indicator for narcissism.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 06:37 PM
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I agree with this, there just aren't any dating apps worth using for average-looking people right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 06:23 PM
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yeah.. it's quite literally 80/20.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 06:07 PM
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because you would be lazy to assume you can't change anything inside a deterministic universe.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 10:18 PM
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it is relative. if you realize this and the fact that it's not smart to aim far out of your league, one's chances in dating might improve.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 07:19 PM
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yes. from personal experience, I was able to attract women out of my league on OLD but it's still hard to strike up a conversation with someone whose personality is not like your own. the usual advice is, don't go on OLD if you aren't extremely physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 07:11 PM
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it's 2021, u can admit u have a gay crush on him
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 06:24 PM
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I have to agree that the vast majority of women are not concerned with it at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 06:24 PM
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they do contract and refute all of your points. narcissists do realize deep down that something's off with their behaviour and that they could be on the narcissism spectrum. the whole point is that narcissts lie to themselves about this. There is effective treatment available, but narcissists are resistant to it. What about the word resistant do you not understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 06:21 PM
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it's a fact
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 06:15 PM
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did u expect me to rank your gay crush higher?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 09:36 PM
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he doesn't come up with really innovative ideas. it seems more like 'fun projects' that don't help anyone. he's more concerned with being viewed as intelligent, which automatically means he isn't intelligent.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 06:52 PM
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because I won't sacrifice my happiness/mental health to have a 1% chance of getting rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 06:39 PM
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except that they will need to learn basic communication skills in order to have a meaningful relationship at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 06:35 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 06:25 PM
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buried in the woods ofcourse. But can you just be honest about the fact that you like him because he has money and status? or is that a stretch?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 06:23 PM
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"Even the most intelligent people have unrealistic ideas from time to time". no, because there's no such thing as an unrealistic idea to them. they make it work. ​ His manipulation and people hiring skills are about as good as those of a stupid HR-manager and that doesn't make him special. he has a bachelor's degree in physics, does that make him intelligent? I don't think so. ​ " I'd also argue that thinking outside the box sometimes is an important component of intelligence. " Elon Musk doesn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 06:11 PM
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I would put him in the 50th percentile or so (average), I don't know where I'd put myself but probably a little higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 06:05 PM
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well have fun calibrating Elon Musk. I don't believe he is intelligent. if he was, he wouldn't have these wild unrealistic ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 10:14 PM
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seems like you're defending pseudeoscientific things that you don't even understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 09:41 PM
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these are not arguments
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 09:38 PM
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so when a high-status man is sexist, it's ok, but when a low status man is sexist it's not? or is it because he is more physically attractive than a neckbeard?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 06:17 PM
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what arguments? their 'philosophy' is designed to be understandable for 5 year olds
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 06:05 PM
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fixed my comment, vulnerable narcissists believe they are unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 05:11 PM
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"The main takeaway I got was confirming that if you're attractive people will assign you positive personality traits." I agree with that. hence the word perceived creativity/intelligence. it's rare for a creative genius to be succesful with women. nonetheless, it shows these traits are viewed as positive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 04:41 PM
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"Really corrupt women could not long endure this way of life; and, however, dear gossip may be to them they would want to gossip with men." This seems to accurately depict LVW though. From a scientific standpoint however, I think Darwin is more accurate. it still holds today that men should be resourceful and/or vigorous.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 10:18 PM
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the incel community is full of narcissim. vulnerable narcissists believe deep down that they are unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 05:55 PM
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"I'd be interested to read your source on this." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder#Treatment: - "Narcissistic personality disorder is rarely the primary reason for which people seek mental health treatment." - "In general, psychotherapy is the basis for treating narcissistic personality disorder." ​ "That these behavioral and mental traits are enduring and deeply engrained from childhood." I'm not saying they can't be engrained, but fame and wealth 'unlock' these tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 05:37 PM
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"People with narcissistic personality disorder are often terribly miserable and fragile people. Given the choice I think many would choose to be "cured". Unfortunately, most of the cluster B disorders do not have reliable treatments." treatment is available, but narcissists are resistant to it, which shows they don't want to be cured. especially the the grandiose narcissists aren't miserable at all. ​ "No, not really" From wikipedia: Personality, defined psychologically, is the set of enduring b…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 01:04 AM
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"So while FWBs are common it looks like men and women engage in them at pretty equal rates." ok. I still have major issues with plugging some random dating statistics into a Gini calculator. I don't think this is an apt comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 11:50 PM
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"It basically seems to be whatever people make up in their heads." yes and there's nothing wrong with that. A lot of men and women think having a high n-count is the best thing there is and it's normal for women to have contraceptive pills for breakfast. I don't agree with that but it's reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 11:01 PM
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red pill doesn't pull its punches, it's just accepting reality as it is and not sugarcoating it, whilst not being more pessimistic than one needs to be in light of facts. I doubt intelligent pessimists exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 07:25 PM
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36%. no insignificant amount. Also wanted to point out that the dating economy is different from the monetary economy in that there is no regulation of it. Comparing the two makes hardly any sense. People lie a lot about sex-related topics so these numbers must be taken with a grain of salt.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 06:56 PM
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funny post but what about FWB-type relationships? they are pretty common now. Not everyone dating is in actual relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 06:14 PM
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I disagree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 10:51 PM
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everyone can think for themselves so if someone starts love bombing you you can just turn away.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 10:37 PM
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"Children in an environment that predisposes them to personality disorders usually are not provided with the knowledge, skills, and support to avoid developing the disorder. As a disorder is developed, it can be extremely difficult to self-identify problems developing and act to prevent them." of course a narcissist doesn't want to 'prevent' their own disorder.. it's matter of choice. ​ "It is unlikely that fame or success would lead to a personality disorder. Being narcissistic and having narci…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 09:49 PM
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After experiencing abuse a person may still become a normal person. If they put in the effort and choose not to be a piece of shit, that is. Also, there are factors that can 'unlock' someone's inner narcissist, like fame or success.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 09:35 PM
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I am too. they are probably narcissists themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 08:54 PM
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there's always a choice to be narcissistic or not, so no.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 08:54 PM
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yes, they are on different frequencies. that has more to do with intelligence than social class, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 07:36 PM
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intermittent reinforcement and love bombing only work when the other person is already interested in the narcissist, at which point it's in part their own fault for being abused.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 07:03 PM
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it's actually easier if you have dealt with narcissists before. Also, narcissism isn't mental illness, because that would suggest they didn't have a choice
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 06:43 PM
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good luck finding someone who takes anything u say seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 06:25 PM
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first of all, people aren't socially careful. in my country for instance, they ignored restrictions mostly. secondly, I'm talking about socially careful in dating here. you're making a claim that you seem to have pulled out of your ass and are refusing to back it up with evidence. Next time, try to have some facts ready before u make these claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 05:46 PM
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do u have evidence that people are 'socially careful' during a pandemic? I don't think that is the case
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 05:36 PM
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but people who buy into manipulation are usually manipulative themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 12:32 AM
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"You’d think with so many of them in STEM/IT (though many TRP men I've seen are in the trades and very insecure about it) they would know how technology and apps work but alas…" yeah cuz tinder gives away their source code
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 09:31 PM
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you're just digging the hole deeper now
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 09:47 PM
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so you also didn't get that being disingenuous is a blue pill thing, not red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 07:35 PM
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this
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 07:25 PM
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if you had read the comment you would know it actually doesn't talk about dating (purple pill) /men's rights (MGTOW)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 07:20 PM
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are you stupid or something? read my comment
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 07:06 PM
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everyone literally has their own interpretation of the red pill. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_pill_and_blue_pill: The terms "red pill" and "blue pill" refer to a choice between the willingness to learn a potentially unsettling or life-changing truth, by taking the red pill, or remaining in contented ignorance with the blue pill. \<sup>this</sup> is kind of accurate, though. the article doesn't mention misogyny the manosphere, however, does. so I would say they are very different
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 06:59 PM
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TRP has nothing to do with misogyny
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 06:48 PM
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the opposite of FDS would be the manosphere, not TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 05:53 PM
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that is true. In some parts of that country, women are kept inside houses by (muslim) men. Sometimes they run out and the men chase them down
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 09:17 PM
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true
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 08:46 PM
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I would think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 05:41 PM
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yes because many LVW ignore that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 10:49 PM
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it shows they care more about looks, but also that OLD is different from real-life dating, because of the amount of male profiles on dating apps raises the bar continuously to a point where women will only swipe right on 10s.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 08:02 PM
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yeah you're actually right, I just browsed through it. apparently they don't know what red pill is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 07:43 PM
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could it be that only a certain type of women are posting on that subreddit and that cluster B personality disorders are slightly overrepresented? r/RedPillWomen is better to read if you want to get an idea of how HVW think
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 06:47 PM
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"I think you are being pessimistic in underestimating how carefully women monitor each other" FDS women don't, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 05:40 PM
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there are ways to curb inequality. The government should stimulate growth of the IT sector so there will be better dating apps. If tinder wasn't a multi-billion dollar company the dating market would be more fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 04:33 PM
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I think most people initially have high dating expectations. then slowly they adjust to a level where where they can find a long term partner. Not everyone does this, so I don't agree with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 03:54 PM
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so you're talking about good vs bad pictures. I think that doesn't matter much. from personal experience, I tried switching pictures periodically and it didn't make much difference for my matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 08:57 PM
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"A five on your scale is not the average of your dataset just because it's the midpoint of your scale." exactly. so "80% of men on OkCupid are judged by women to be below the general population average" is totally true.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 06:43 PM
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"They assume women have the same static visual triggers as himself. This reflects in OLD, where most men have photos like the 1st photo, not the second photo" not true. in online dating women pay the most attention to the first and the last photo, in other words they don't take all day to look at each photo. which makes sense because of the sheer amount of profiles. I doubt there's any cues or lights going on other than 'he's hot, or he's not'
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 06:22 PM
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this study is from 2008.. pretty insignificant.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 06:13 PM
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"So this is also a question of methodology and measurement." not at all. physical attractiveness is easy to measure, using for instance a 1-10 scale. "The scale itself does not define what average is and isn't. You can't determine averageness pre hoc without measuring it." ​ average: a number expressing the central or typical value in a set of data, in particular the mode, median, or (most commonly) the mean, which is calculated by dividing the sum of the values in the set by their number.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 05:46 PM
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it's not like people don't know these things. women that go on dating apps in the first place aren't high value.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 05:37 PM
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changed criteria means autism maybe 'over-diagnosed', but this doesn't mean women aren't underdiagnosed with autism according to general consensus.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 04:43 PM
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that is old data about speed-dating, which is quite different from online dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 04:37 PM
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NPD is far more prevalent in women than in men, and narcissism is more prevalent in men than in women. probably because NPD is underdiagnosed in women, like ASD and ADD.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 04:27 PM
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BPD really isn't the same as narcissism or ASPD. ASPD women barely exist, dark triad traits are pretty common in modern women though, I'd say.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 11:46 PM
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what does this even mean
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 11:34 PM
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in an ideal situation, no. but modern men don't have all that many options. generally speaking narcissists / people with cluster B disorders will be more attracted to each other and this is better for everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 11:32 PM
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nah, it's modern dating reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 11:23 PM
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"These people can learn "intellectual empathy" where they try to understand the underlying logic behind being empathic so that they can apply its mechanisms appropriately." they might learn cognitive (intellectual) empathy, but real (emotional) empathy isn't easy to learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 11:17 PM
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I think the bar to be diagnosed with NPD doesn't quite reflect the level of narcissism in society as a whole. I'm also not talking about ASPD, which is very different and more rare than subclinical narcissism.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 10:38 PM
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NPD is definitely underdiagnosed; DT women are very reluctant to seek a diagnosis
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 10:35 PM
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"Given that NPD and ASPD are rare in general (comparatively) and especially rare in women (both are about 75-80% male)" subclinical narcissism / dark triad isn't rare. ​ "but are there any ways in which NPD/ASPD women are more compatible to the average man than the average woman?" probably not. dark triad women have fragile egos so that they need constant confirmation from another narcissist and vice versa. they could date a non-NPD person, but there would be major communication issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 10:12 PM
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"I think its just a offshoot of that "don't brag" culture we have" which is just an offshoot of the lying/narcissism culture we have.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 12:21 AM
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I agree. though it's no secret that attractive people get free passes in all areas of life even though everyone perceives beauty differently based on their own 'physical flaws'. kindness is attractive, but today's women's standards are often times disappointingly unrealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 12:19 AM
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things won't go back to "normal", but there probably will be better apps than Tinder/Bumble/Hinge etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 08:11 PM
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