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| – | Men should be able to safely approach women without fear of humiliation or being shamed, and there should be more venues other than bars for meeting women"And ironically people throw the words straw man and fallacy to avoid questions being asked?" This was the question asked: "Why should anyone be interrogated for rejecting a person?" Tell me, is that a genuine question for points that I actually made? Or is that a question with an implicating tone insinuating that I believe people should be interrogated for rejecting someone? You didn't ask IF people should be interrogated for rejecting someone, You asked WHY. Implying I already made that statem… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 10:01 AM |
| – | Men should be able to safely approach women without fear of humiliation or being shamed, and there should be more venues other than bars for meeting womenWhy should it matter if a man lies about the reasons he's friends with you if he's not meant to be interrogated on that in the first place? And I'm not even really asking that question because I'm not arguing that it matters if the woman lies. I'm pointing out that they do, and when they do it's patronizing. That's it. That's all. Please leave me alone now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 09:57 AM |
| – | Men should be able to safely approach women without fear of humiliation or being shamed, and there should be more venues other than bars for meeting womenWho ever said that??? That's what I'm saying about this sub. You guys throw in the craziest straw man arguments and expect someone to think you're not being disingenuous. I never ever suggested anything like that, but just because I said that SOME women lie somehow I'm a villain now and I think women should be interrogated. Ridiculous. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 08:03 AM |
| 0 | Men should be able to safely approach women without fear of humiliation or being shamed, and there should be more venues other than bars for meeting womenIf you agree that women can lie then what's the point of this argument? We are in agreement. Some women lie. That's what I'm referring to. Please find peace. Also the use of emojis in a debate setting is a clear sign of immaturity and hurt ego being masked as humor. And Don't call me weak, no need for personal attacks. It's actually against the rules of this sub. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/24 01:03 AM |
| 0 | Men should be able to safely approach women without fear of humiliation or being shamed, and there should be more venues other than bars for meeting womenThis happens in this sub a lot. It's like you're just against me for no reason at from the start. I wasn't even being aggressive until you started the aggression. I literally just posed the notion that the women who are lying are lying. There are women who lie when they reject men. Are you really going to pretend like that's not a thing? Are you really going to tell me that no woman ever who has ever existed and ever lived in this world ever and ever existed throughout human history ever has eve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/24 12:41 AM |
| 1 | Men should be able to safely approach women without fear of humiliation or being shamed, and there should be more venues other than bars for meeting womenIt's never normal or right to bully people. It's a defense mechanism, and a sign of emotional damage. maybe we should just agree to disagree. I believe this topic requires more depth than your willing or able to give it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/24 01:38 PM |
| 0 | Men should be able to safely approach women without fear of humiliation or being shamed, and there should be more venues other than bars for meeting womenI'm not sure what you're on about. I didn't say anything to be condescending until I was attacked. if anything the person who replied to me was condescending first, but I'm sure you'd never call out their actions huh? Anyways, stop assuming things. I'm not talking about women giving vague answers. I'm talking about women who downright lie. If you think every woman on earth is perfect and has never lied, then keep on believing what you believe. I'm talking about the subset of women who do lie. Wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/24 03:29 AM |
| 0 | Men should be able to safely approach women without fear of humiliation or being shamed, and there should be more venues other than bars for meeting womenDude are you arguing with me or a made-up person in your head? Is that straw man diatribe that you just spewed supposed to be close to what I are actually wrote? (Also why are you so angry?) I'm simply setting up the thought experiment to compare two sides of this coin. If you are going to sit here and tell me, there has never been a woman who has been dishonest about rejecting a guy or even been dishonest and still used the guy for his resources, then I would call you an absolute liar. I never … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/24 01:05 AM |
| 2 | Men should be able to safely approach women without fear of humiliation or being shamed, and there should be more venues other than bars for meeting womenI think the world is larger than your bubble. You seem to think very highly of your perceptions and conflate your point of view to what others experience. I think the issue here is now you are telling everyone that they should act as shallow as the people in the scenario presented. I offer a counter to that. Only a small subset of chronically online people actually think in terms of social status when it comes to measuring the worth of other human beings. I kind of equated to bullying. There are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/02/24 09:50 PM |
| -2 | Men should be able to safely approach women without fear of humiliation or being shamed, and there should be more venues other than bars for meeting womenUm duhh, yes they are two different situations but we're talking about being dishonest. Women often lie about WHY they are rejecting a guy (did you even read my comment?). And please refrain from bringing up anecdotals as a response. As sensible human beings beings we can surmise that there is a substantial subset of women who are dishonest about why they're rejecting some men. that should not be a debatable point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/02/24 09:44 PM |
| 1 | Men should be able to safely approach women without fear of humiliation or being shamed, and there should be more venues other than bars for meeting womenHe didn't attack her status public. That's something you are personally throwing into it because of your bias and possibly your own insecurity. People aren't status symbols, they're people. He didn't care about her status in the moment he cared about her person. If all she cares about is her status, that's her problem and an insecurity within herself and has nothing to do with society or anything around her. If that is actually how she saw people first then I would argue she is mentally ill in t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/02/24 02:32 PM |
| 0 | Men should be able to safely approach women without fear of humiliation or being shamed, and there should be more venues other than bars for meeting womenI agree that does address the first part of my comment but not the second. Many if not most men, can recall a time when they approached a woman and they were met with a rude comment or a superiority complex. (This is tangential so feel free to ignore this) I think a lot of women want to have it both ways. They want to say that all humans are equal, but then act as if they are better than someone of the opposite sex because of outward aesthetics when approached. You have to pick one. There are li… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/02/24 02:18 PM |
| -1 | Men should be able to safely approach women without fear of humiliation or being shamed, and there should be more venues other than bars for meeting womenHold on. I thought that women weren't shallow and they didn't only care about looks. If that's the case, it shouldn't matter if an "ugly as f" guy hits on a beautiful women, since women Will go to the ends of the Earth claiming that personality is more important. BUT If we have now instead established that women are just a shallow as men in this regard, then I would argue it's her blaring insecurities and emotional immaturity that make her feel like she's as unattractive as she deems the man who… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/02/24 01:25 PM |
| -2 | Men should be able to safely approach women without fear of humiliation or being shamed, and there should be more venues other than bars for meeting womenTo take a page from women's books: acting nice isn't being nice. Women will reject politely but will lie straight to a man's face. It's very similar to a nice guy pretending to be nice so that you like him. We can see through it immediately. It becomes patronization which every human (if you are emotionally intelligent) understands as an insulting tone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/02/24 01:20 PM |
| -3 | Men should be able to safely approach women without fear of humiliation or being shamed, and there should be more venues other than bars for meeting womenThis is categorically untrue. If that were the case, no one would ever know that gossip about them exists ever, but we all (generalization) have heard through the grapevines what people say behind our backs or behind the backs of people we know (otherwise, gossip would not be such a big issue.) When women mock men, laugh in their faces, Tell them they are too ugly, Tell them they are too short, feel insulted that they even hit on them (these actions are more common than women care to admit - som… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/02/24 01:16 PM |
| 3 | Apparently women in your "friends circle" really dislike you hitting on themI would argue that society never tells women to be dishonest about dating. I would say most, if not every, man tells women That transparency would get them the best results instead of using "signs" or " hot and cold" behavior, a practice that most women cling to. (Specifically for long-term relationships and not just casual sex). However, since men are the pursuers, they must put into place actual practices in order to obtain their mates. That would naturally suggest some level of dishonesty, or… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/24 10:09 PM |
| 2 | Apparently women in your "friends circle" really dislike you hitting on themBut she's not being honest about her part in the dance. I would assume her part of the exchange would not have anything to do with misdirection or dishonesty, But instead open invitation to the suitor of her choice. If she is actually looking for a successful mating process. She must be transparent just like the man. No? In any case, I would not call it manipulation any more than I would call a man doing a similar thing manipulation. But it is women who frame it this way so I would expect consis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/24 06:07 PM |
| 11 | Apparently women in your "friends circle" really dislike you hitting on themI wonder.. at that point, should she be looked at as being just as manipulative as the men who go a similar route are typically seen as? In this instance she obviously has more feelings towards the guy and is treating them differently because she is sexually attracted to them (and as we've established, not any other real reason) all while hiding that true intentions just so he can be the initiator. Isn't that just as "vile" as women claim men are when it comes to "pretending" to be friends? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/24 05:41 PM |
| 1 | Many men think cheating is alpha and high value. Many men justify cheating with these beliefs.Honestly, kind of. A lot of women, I would say even most women want a man with game (Even if they don't explicitly say so). Men and women think differently. for one to understand the other enough to convince them should suggest to you that they have practiced. having game just means knowing how to manipulate. If you actually examine it. There is nothing genuine about having game. If a man is good with women and he is good with you while other men are notoriously bad with you, you should have war… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/24 12:27 AM |
| 1 | Phrases such as “Men age like wine, women age like milk” and “The Wall” are nonsensical.Lol no one is arguing against men being infertile. Why would my ego be bruised? I was pointing out that you didn't like a source or anything, you just said anecdotal stuff. Plus (if the random number you just threw out is true, please link a source) 40% still means women are the majority of infertility cases. I don't see how that's a rebuttal against anyone's previous stance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/24 11:33 AM |
| 0 | Phrases such as “Men age like wine, women age like milk” and “The Wall” are nonsensical.I argue there are more women using makeup, cosmetic surgery and birth control pills which use chemicals to alter your hormones and your sexual organs, then there are men in those dangerous fields. Although I don't have the data on those effects either, I think it would be naive to suggest they didn't have significant effects on the body. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/24 05:27 AM |
| 1 | Phrases such as “Men age like wine, women age like milk” and “The Wall” are nonsensical.I tried to translate this best I can. Tell me if I'm close: "lmao. anecdotal statement, anecdotal diatribe, anecdotal tales of anecdotal people in anecdotal situations that I have experienced so they must be true for everyone. And I've been to so many fertility clinics that I have a punch card! Also, men too! You don't understand fertility!" How'd I do? Sorry if this is against PPD rules, I'm just so tired of anecdotes being paraded around as evidence in this sub (from both sides). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/24 04:59 AM |
| -1 | Phrases such as “Men age like wine, women age like milk” and “The Wall” are nonsensical.That can't be true with makeup existing right? And with plastic surgery in which women dominate the participating demographic. This may be a biased answer. Could you provide some sources that say that men are more commonly exposed to toxins than women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/24 04:49 AM |
| 5 | The advice women give to men here is devised to limit their chancesDude, You're literally bragging about going up to random women and telling them you want to lick their pussies. Even if I would get positive responses (which no one here will ever believe you ever have) , I don't want to do that because I'm sane. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/24 12:48 PM |
| – | The advice women give to men here is devised to limit their chancesYou sound like a disturbed individual | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/24 11:52 PM |
| -1 | What is wrong with being nice to have sex?No, we're in agreement in the second sentence you made. I'm just going off of the perceived aggression in your comments towards this guy who disagrees with you. And No need to throw aggression my way, I'm not completely opposed to your views. But I do know what a nice guy TM is and I think the term nice guy is birthed out of that same shallowness of thought I mentioned earlier. I think short of a cartoon villain It's hard to find a human being that one-dimensionally evil that they want to do nic… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/24 07:53 PM |
| 3 | What is wrong with being nice to have sex?I've always thought that Nice was the subjective term no? Why do you get to define nice the way that you want to and him not the way he wants to. Are you God? I actually think that humans are more complex than you give them credit for. It's absolutely possible to do something nice for someone because you like doing nice things and because you want something in return. I think anyone Who can't comprehend that may be a bit shallow. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/24 07:23 PM |
| 7 | What is wrong with being nice to have sex?I feel like this is a cop out. I read nothing in his original post or his comments that claimed he wanted to do anything at someone else's expense. All I heard him talk about (and you for that matter) were motives. Those aren't intrinsically connected. That's a connection you have chosen to make. I think you are making assumptions about OP because you don't like his viewpoint. That's okay, but now it seems like you're angry because people don't agree with you and you're labeling anyone who doesn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/24 07:21 PM |
| 6 | The advice women give to men here is devised to limit their chancesHe's making points that there are men who are literally killing themselves because they have mental health issues caused by repeat rejection in the dating market. It's okay if you don't think these people exist. It's okay if you don't think these people's lives are worth something, but it seems like he does and he's bringing up a solution. In this debate setting, that is a point. It doesn't matter if you don't believe it it is. You don't have to believe this loneliest epidemic, but you sound jus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/24 07:10 PM |
| 8 | The advice women give to men here is devised to limit their chancesThis is probably the best comment here. Women and men will give answers that fit their worldview. All our individual successes have to be figured out for ourselves. Unfortunately (fortunately?), if people took this advice to heart, this whole subreddit wouldn't exist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/24 07:04 PM |
| 3 | The advice women give to men here is devised to limit their chancesDude, Just argue in good faith. It's okay if you ignore the things that are making you this frustrated, but you won't answer their questions. why not just focus on the debate and answer the points they're talking about. I'm not on either side but looking in it seems like you are aggressive Just because someone doesn't agree with you. This is a debate subreddit you should have a thicker skin. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/24 07:00 PM |
| 8 | The advice women give to men here is devised to limit their chancesAnswer the question. Stop avoiding it because it will tear your argument apart. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/24 06:55 PM |
| 1 | If men don't want to be chosen for being "providers" - why do they advertise themselves this way?No apology for the baseless insult you threw my way? Zero class. Your point isn't even real, listen to what you just said: "most men want sex and exclusivity from women.." what the hell does that have to do with having a child? You brought up the child point so maybe you should be arguing against yourself. "So the point still stands.." that point never stood, and still doesn't stand. stop pretending like you proved yourself in any way. Women are not the prize. Most women with any sort of intelli… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/24 04:21 AM |
| 2 | "Women on average handle being single better"You're failing to see it from a human perspective because it's not all about women. The women who see it as a failed relationship just aren't smart enough to understand that those men were using them. Because and we have actually agreed on this already. The chads are using them. So it doesn't matter how they see it. It doesn't matter what they see from their perspective. The truth of the matter is, The chads won't commit to them in the same way. Prostitutes won't commit to the men paying for the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/24 12:01 AM |
| 5 | The Blue Pill didn't lie to youThat's not true. People can learn from studies that on average women like muscular men more than they like men who aren't physically fit. That could be enough to cause a man to go to the gym. It seems obvious but most people enter the dating game at a young age so they know nothing about attracting the opposite sex. To be honest, most people would benefit from research. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/24 11:47 PM |
| 2 | The Blue Pill didn't lie to youI agree with you but the difference that I've seen is that red pillars tell you to examine women and what they do rather than what they say. I don't see how you could ever go wrong with that advice, That's not a disingenuous stance to take. Red pill from what I've seen just tells you that you have to do more than just be yourself to get women because they have some biologically hardwired traits. So far from what I've seen from blue pill is them claiming that men and women have no biological hard… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/24 10:54 PM |
| 1 | If men don't want to be chosen for being "providers" - why do they advertise themselves this way?See you're using stupid attack tactics to try to make me seem like I'm less of a successful dater just because I oppose your bull shit sexist views. I'm in a relationship but I shouldn't even have to defend myself. If you think women are the prize go date them and stop arguing with heterosexual men online and telling us what's best for us. Not every man wants a child, but you're too ignorant to think outside of your own bubble. I don't take insults lightly, especially on a debate subreddit, It's… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/24 10:42 PM |
| 6 | The Blue Pill didn't lie to youI think the issue is average. Women sleep with above average men and then think they're above average. THAT'S WHAT ACTUALLY skews the dating market. Because when men run into the wall of not being able to get the women they think is in their league, they're forced to come to that realization to lower their standards. Women aren't forced to do that until they're too old to get sexual attention. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/24 10:37 PM |
| 6 | The Blue Pill didn't lie to youAnd who says the women aren't conflating themselves in the same way? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/24 10:35 PM |
| 4 | The Blue Pill didn't lie to youI'll answer your question if you answer mine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/24 10:34 PM |
| 7 | The Blue Pill didn't lie to youI'd say the metric you're using. Why don't you start there by explaining yourself first, since I commented off of your post. Truth is it doesn't matter what you say. My point still stands as you have created a hierarchy between average and below average before I got here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/24 08:59 PM |
| 5 | The Blue Pill didn't lie to youHold on. Are you ignoring all the scientific and social data that we have that women don't have the sexual drive that men do? Are you ignoring the scientific data of the effects of testosterone? The only reason red pill exists and flourishes this much is because people like you keep denying it. I came into this subreddit not on either side and all I've seen are blue pillars and women gaslighting the hell out of anyone who disagrees with them on anything even when their points are supported by em… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/24 08:56 PM |
| 0 | The Blue Pill didn't lie to youWomen aren't a monolith. They're absolutely are women looking for "beasts." There are literally women into bestiality (joke). What are you talking about? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/24 08:54 PM |
| 12 | The Blue Pill didn't lie to youIf this isn't the case then he's right in this argument and blue pill is inherently flawed. Basically saying that blue pill makes it okay for blow average women to think they deserve average men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/24 08:51 PM |
| 1 | "Women on average handle being single better"Some hot girls settle. What's your point? The difference is Chad's commit to their highest possible option. They never settle ever. So if you are even in the camp of women Who used the term Chad, You are not the woman he is going to commit to. That's the reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/24 05:38 PM |
| 6 | "Women on average handle being single better"Chads absolutely behave like prostitutes. They want one thing sex while the prostitute wants one thing money. They don't care about your feelings. They don't care about your hope they're getting what they want and then they're leaving you. This is where the complimentary nature of men and women come into play: women don't value (non committal) sex as much as men, now apply that to this conversation we've been having. Also, The chance that a woman chasing a Chad will find one who will commit to h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/24 04:22 PM |
| 2 | Why are men encouraging women to settle for men they aren’t attracted to when they know that women aren’t going to pour into a man she doesn’t like ?This just in: Anecdotal experiences are anecdotal. More news at 11. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/24 04:20 PM |
| 1 | Why are men encouraging women to settle for men they aren’t attracted to when they know that women aren’t going to pour into a man she doesn’t like ?Choosing the one for you has a lot to do with statistical attractions because whether you believe it or not humans are statistical beings. That's why we have higher intelligence. We are natural threat assessors even if you don't put a number to it. You are still assessing someone's attractiveness the same as you as threats levels. And like I said in my first comment, which you did not actually respond to, the societal factors around you influence your choices. It's incredibly disingenuous to sug… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/24 02:46 PM |
| -1 | "Women on average handle being single better"The hope being there doesn't matter. That's like a guy with money who sleeps the prostitutes thinking he can get a hot wife. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/24 02:41 PM |
| 2 | Why are men encouraging women to settle for men they aren’t attracted to when they know that women aren’t going to pour into a man she doesn’t like ?I think you're forgetting how much some things societal value has influence on the people in that society. The reason why brand name drugs are bought over the nameless ones (Even though it's illegal for them to be of different substances) is because they are valued more in the market. Parallel this with the bald comment. Yes, there are women who like bald men but on a scale of averages most women would prefer a man with hair, and to push even further, most women's attraction to a man with hair i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/24 01:49 PM |
| 10 | "Women on average handle being single better"Actually, it can be argued that women are single because they can't get the men they want. A lot of women complain about being single enough so that they're entire threads dedicated to this complaint. This would debunk your stance that when women are single it's because they aren't looking. They are looking. They just don't like the plethora of options they have. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/24 01:43 PM |
| 3 | Dating doesn’t actually have to be fairIf the advice has background, why not provide that background? For some reason the people giving this advice still haven't figured that out after decades. Because if you give the advice to just be nice (which some women actually believe to be real advice. Let's not pretend) You sound ignorant at best, horribly privileged and disingenuous at worst | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/24 01:29 PM |
| 3 | Women act like TRP is some kooky conspiracy theory rotting men’s brains but then tell bold faced lies like “maybe if you were nice to women and took a shower you would get a date.” This blatant dishonesty is the very foundation of red pill ideology.If you scroll, you'll see women in this exact thread saying that the advice does actually work. Not on either side but it's blatantly disingenuous to suggest no women say this and mean it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/24 12:15 AM |
| 2 | Women act like TRP is some kooky conspiracy theory rotting men’s brains but then tell bold faced lies like “maybe if you were nice to women and took a shower you would get a date.” This blatant dishonesty is the very foundation of red pill ideology.Suddenly cults don't exist | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/24 12:13 AM |
| 5 | Women act like TRP is some kooky conspiracy theory rotting men’s brains but then tell bold faced lies like “maybe if you were nice to women and took a shower you would get a date.” This blatant dishonesty is the very foundation of red pill ideology.It's odd that a lot of people can underestimate and make light of the issue of loneliness until they experience it. There are men who are literally killing themselves because they feel isolated, but this commenter acts like it's a joke and that they're only doing so because they can't get every woman they want. It's such an disconnected stance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/24 12:05 AM |
| 3 | "just treat them like humans"Well then your clarification is what was needed because in your original comment you made a blanket statement. You implied (please understand what the word implies means) that women have never given that advice genuinely to men Who aren't misogynistic. But now you've clarified "some" guys. Without this clarification, my original comment still stands. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/24 07:30 PM |
| 3 | If men don't want to be chosen for being "providers" - why do they advertise themselves this way?Technically if he's a provider he could get sex with hotter women than her, they would just have to be sex workers. Also, I think that you may like women more than men do. Because in truth The relationships that men want from women are not monolithic. Every man wants a different type of relationship with women. Because of that you can't tell men that having one loyal woman is better, because that's something YOU believe. Women aren't the prize, you have the same one track mind that the misogynis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/24 07:24 PM |
| 3 | "just treat them like humans"I agree that men and women are different, but I disagree that women don't have a problem approaching treating sleeping with or being friends with men. Women will often say that they are too shy and this will reinforce their dependency on men to be pursuers. We all know that women sleeping with men that they have not vetted is also a huge issue, as most women will claim to have gone through a "phase" that they have "grown out of" meaning there are plethora of women going through that phase right … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/24 07:11 PM |
| 3 | "just treat them like humans"I think you unsuccessfully ignored his actually decent talking points. Your sentence implies that sexual attention automatically equals misogyny. But anyone who argues in good faith can reason that the phrase "treat her like a person" is in the context of ignoring sexual desire, and does not refer to the male party having a dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women. In my opinion anyway | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/24 07:05 PM |
| 3 | That Time Someone Asked "What Makes a Female Creepy?"It's not creepy. Autism is more so the absence of social constraint. As autistic people tend to be highly intelligent. If making someone uncomfortable automatically equals creepy (and since this is highly subjective and perspective based), then can I say that you are in fact creepy because you are making me uncomfortable with your baseless opinion? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/24 01:56 PM |
| 5 | That Time Someone Asked "What Makes a Female Creepy?"Autism isn't creepy. You sound a bit ableist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/24 11:34 AM |
| 1 | What is the logic behind dating knowingly bad men?If that's the case then why do they complain after the fact? This I would truly like to know. In most cases, when men go after toxic women they don't complain, they understand. That's why there's even a social commentary on crazy/hot scale for men, but there doesn't seem to be one for women. Even though this would save many of them from inevitable heartbreak. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/24 04:13 AM |
| 1 | What is the logic behind dating knowingly bad men?If you can get to this point intellectually then your first comment is moot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/24 04:08 AM |
| 5 | What will be the longterm implications of the erosion of the "Women's are wonderful" effect in dating and relationships?His source is very far from proof. His own source states this "We shouldn't declare the sex recession over based on just a single year of data--especially a single year that relied on new survey methods--and a fairly small sub-sample of 229 respondents." Less than 300 people? That could never represent the norm the surveys will probably volunteer based. It would stand to reason that people having sex will be more inclined to be involved. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/24 03:37 AM |
| – | Is there any legitimate argument to be made for the superiority of women over men?No, I'm just taking a fine tooth comb to your points and pointing out your bias. I have been reading your posts and yes I'm trying to put a negative connotation on your thought process so that you can have some self-reflection. Having inherent biases on gender is wrong. That's what I'm trying to convey. Also, there are a lot of points that I stated out that you did not respond to either, so I am positive you're not reading my posts. But in truth, I have been reading your posts because I am baffl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/24 02:03 PM |
| – | Is there any legitimate argument to be made for the superiority of women over men?I agree, I was just about to consolidate my comments. That's a contradiction. Black men could only be given those crimes and seen as sexual criminals because they were men. The race had something to do with it but don't pretend like it was limited to black men. It actually happened Irishmen too. It happened low income white men as well. Though they weren't lynched so the punishment was less but there were still punishment. You speak with such confidence on these things that I'm sure you've never… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/24 01:53 PM |
| – | Is there any legitimate argument to be made for the superiority of women over men?So then if it's the system, why are you pushing so hard that women are inherently better than men? Don't you see how you've contradicted yourself? Are you telling me that white women don't have a long systemic history of realizing there will always be a category of people that they can throw their anger at? Do racist Karen's not exist? Was that not a whole movement a few years ago exposing them? It's not a matter of gender. It's a matter of hierarchies. Women and men are the same in this regard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/24 01:46 PM |
| – | Is there any legitimate argument to be made for the superiority of women over men?It was guided to her by men. See? But when a man does it, oh no. He did it on his own. It wasn't the system. I'm claiming and it's been proven that that was the driving vehicle for the beginning of that movement because before then only people who went to war could vote except for black men who had to go to war with out the power to vote. When they were beginning to be seen as equals then it was decided that they got the right to vote because they had to fight in the wars. White women did not li… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/24 01:42 PM |
| – | Is there any legitimate argument to be made for the superiority of women over men?To add, did you know that white women only fought so hard for the right to vote because they saw black men as below them and were insulted that they got the right to vote first? How is that Not an instance men being seen as legally non-people by women? I'm not sure you actually care about anyone who doesn't look like you and that's why you're fighting so hard to say that women are inherently better than men. The crazy part is women subjugated other women too, but I bet youd just blame that on me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/24 01:37 PM |
| 1 | Men have "fetishes", women merely have "preferences"The issue is, please take this to heart, You're conflating tall to normal. Tall is not normal. It is by definition above the norm. When people are fed healthy, they reach the norm. If you're talking about someone being malnourished you would be able to see that beyond their height. So that's not indirect correlation, because otherwise they would reach normal height, not "tall." The people who are tall did not plan being tall. So assuming that they did something right compared to someone who is o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/24 11:49 AM |
| 1 | Men have "fetishes", women merely have "preferences"A few things there that aren't true. People don't need fetishes to get off. They enjoy them to the extent that it controls their picking process. But if a guy has a fetish for big butts, that doesn't mean he's never slept, or never would sleep with the girl with a small ass. Especially if he has no other options. And in this sense fetishes can be waning. Also height isn't directly correlated to being healthier, and has little to do with nutrition, It's all genetic lottery, and maybe posture. I t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/24 01:05 AM |
| 1 | Men have "fetishes", women merely have "preferences"So your whole point boils down to caring too much about what other people think. Fetishes work the same way. Fetishes take the stereotypes that society puts around certain people and turns them into a sexual kink. Black men and hispanic man are a lot of times seen as more sexual but that is just a societal generalization. These insecurities that women have are the same thing, You're associating social traits with physical traits. It's in the same vein as a fetish and it's equally as unhealthy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/24 11:50 PM |
| – | Being an attractive woman in the West is the highest level of privilege a person can ever have.Those men wanted to sleep with you. Sure that's not the same thing as what I'm talking about. Most women can get most men to sleep with them. I'm talking about something different. I don't want this to devolve into a measure of attractiveness. I'm saying any inquisitive mind can reason that privilege from a young age warps your personality. It's odd and disingenuous that you would argue against that. Also way to humble brag, You just come across sounding like a user imo. Also fax no printer has … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/24 11:45 AM |
| – | Being an attractive woman in the West is the highest level of privilege a person can ever have.Actually you can't be THAT attractive and raised as a wholesome lady. I don't think that's actually possible, It's like being born as the 1% richest person in the world and being a wholesome person. I'm not naive enough to think that's possible. Are you? You respond to how the world treats you. If you've had every man you've ever wanted and every man who's ever looked at you has wanted to give you things for free or wanted to be with you. You would not be responding to me this way.. In fact, you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/24 11:02 AM |
| 1 | Men have "fetishes", women merely have "preferences"Yes, I agree. Thank you for that random sentence. Now back to the argument, whether you talk about it or not, it's still wrong. I don't want to argue that it's worse to talk about it, That's obviously true. You shouldn't be talking about your sexual life in any public/professional setting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/24 10:33 AM |
| – | Being an attractive woman in the West is the highest level of privilege a person can ever have.I've just talked to very beautiful women, they were all very privileged because that's how life had shaped them. In truth, our personalities are reflection of how society has treated us. You seem to have a good level of discernment, That would be impossible if you were born in a bubble in which everything was handed to you because you looked good. The women I'm talking about are like the top 1% of beautiful women and at that point I couldn't blame them because they weren't allowed the brain deve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/24 10:30 AM |
| – | Being an attractive woman in the West is the highest level of privilege a person can ever have.Apparently you don't live the life of an attractive woman either lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/24 10:21 AM |
| – | Being an attractive woman in the West is the highest level of privilege a person can ever have.I think he's talking about the top 1% just as the top 1% of wealthy people are the ones you experience true privilege. The top 1% of beautiful women absolutely make money off their looks. That's why the term supermodel exists. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/24 10:19 AM |
| – | Being an attractive woman in the West is the highest level of privilege a person can ever have.Actually that's a fallacy. The issue is that power comes with responsibility. That's why many kings and queens went mad or were beheaded. True privilege is having unlimited comfort without the responsibilities. Power is the opposite of that, power implies action and control. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/24 10:18 AM |
| 4 | Men have "fetishes", women merely have "preferences"Can you please explain the difference? I would also like to know. According to the dictionary definition of fetish has to do with an inanimate object or in an inanimate characteristic of another person. A pretty face is technically the same thing as large breasts as there is no inherent personality behind those two qualities. If you never met the person and only saw that they had a nice face and then wanted to have sex with them, is that any different than only seeing that they have big boobs an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/24 10:07 AM |
| 4 | Men have "fetishes", women merely have "preferences"I think the problem is women will obsessively pursue tall men and then convince themselves that the reason they like tall men is not a fetish but some other reason birthed out of mental gymnastics. In truth, the physical traits that we seek out in long-term partners is inherently sexual as we are sexual beings and procreation is at the top of our genetic function. If you ONLY go for a certain race (and an overwhelming amount of women only go for taller men), You can convince yourself that you li… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/24 09:59 AM |
| 3 | Men have "fetishes", women merely have "preferences"Your husband is tall though. Do you not see the contradiction here? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/24 09:52 AM |
| 2 | Men have "fetishes", women merely have "preferences"My argument is that all that other fluff that you talked about doesn't matter why when where you decided to talk about it doesn't matter. The facts that you have a fetish is what matters. You're not better than anyone else with the fetish just because you said it at the right time in the right tone to the right person or just because they took it well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/24 09:46 AM |
| 4 | Men have "fetishes", women merely have "preferences"Fortunately "the way it is perceived" has nothing to do with it's morality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/24 09:13 PM |
| 1 | Men have "fetishes", women merely have "preferences"Thank you! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/24 09:11 PM |
| 3 | What advice would you give a "high value man" who is struggling with dating?Thank God you aren't a therapist and just a reddit commenter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/24 09:08 PM |
| 1 | What advice would you give a "high value man" who is struggling with dating?Do you know this guy too? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/24 08:15 PM |
| 2 | What advice would you give a "high value man" who is struggling with dating?I don't think anyone ever refutes that personality is a big deal. I think people refute the idea that personality is all that matters, which is what many, but not all, women claim. Plus personality follows good looks most of the time because how the world treats you shapes how you respond to it. Many people Just can't accept that they would probably be just as terrible if they were treated the same their entire life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/24 08:14 PM |
| 1 | What advice would you give a "high value man" who is struggling with dating?I think it's a terrible idea to tell someone to stop being who they are. There are people who are autistic. Would you tell them that that stopped the being cute and acceptable 15 years ago? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/24 08:10 PM |
| 10 | What advice would you give a "high value man" who is struggling with dating?Hold on, is your argument really that CEOS are "often" sociopaths and that's why he's struggling lol? I'm just going to move past that. Having emotional intelligence does not equal doing well in dating either and OBVIOUSLY being a CEO is not an inherent sociopathic trait. This is a wild stance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/24 08:08 PM |
| -1 | The number of people who refuse to acknowledge that men are way hornier than women is a perfect example of why blue pillers can not be trusted to have an honest discussionI'm not talking about sex. I'm talking about emotions surrounding loss. There are women in the real world and online who are angry that the man they are sleeping with won't commit to them. They are actually angry. I have seen them insult and belittle these men (while still having sex with them). But I would be a fool to say that these women felt entitled to a relationship. Instead, because they are human, I can understand their complex emotions surrounding constant defeat when it comes to relati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/24 01:44 PM |
| -1 | The number of people who refuse to acknowledge that men are way hornier than women is a perfect example of why blue pillers can not be trusted to have an honest discussionSurprisingly, not everything is about women. See, your bias is on full display here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/24 01:36 PM |
| – | Committed relationship with a man is a net loss for most women?I did. I looked up what you said the second after I read your post and couldn't find anything that backed up what you claims. That's why I said I needed some sources. Look up what I said you won't need me to provide sources. You'll find it immediately. In fact, my stance isn't even something that needs sources. My stance is just that women don't take life more serious than men. Not even that they take life less seriously, just that they don't take life more seriously. Why are you so against that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/24 11:29 AM |
| 5 | The number of people who refuse to acknowledge that men are way hornier than women is a perfect example of why blue pillers can not be trusted to have an honest discussionWe may have to agree to disagree. "Men aren't even demonized for libido" this is categorically false. There are men who have never coerced anyone into sex or forced anyone into sex who are still shamed for having high libidos.. even inside their marriages. I feel like you're worldview is so skewed to the hyperbolic. I mean now you're bringing up hyperboles like Jeffrey Epstein.. Also, I'm assuming you aren't a man cuz you're speaking with such resolve on men's issues but being incredibly wrong… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/24 11:21 AM |
| -1 | The number of people who refuse to acknowledge that men are way hornier than women is a perfect example of why blue pillers can not be trusted to have an honest discussionI really dislike this argument of entitlement. If it's natural within your body and within your genetic makeup to yearn for something and to spend your life achieving it, that does not make you entitled that makes you a human being. I think it's very reductive to the human experience to label people as entitled because they want something that comes easier to others than it does to them. That sounds like a privileged position you're taking. I would never think a homeless man feels entitled to my… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/24 11:03 AM |
| 6 | The number of people who refuse to acknowledge that men are way hornier than women is a perfect example of why blue pillers can not be trusted to have an honest discussionWhat You just brought up is an anecdotal experience. Now if we compare that to the anecdotal experiences of everyone on earth, there will be an overwhelming amount of men who have higher libidos then their wives. Obviously the OP is talking in generalities, In fact, there can never be a debate on the topic of societal dating or on the topic of almost anything in the world with out a preliminary generalization. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/24 10:58 AM |
| 2 | The number of people who refuse to acknowledge that men are way hornier than women is a perfect example of why blue pillers can not be trusted to have an honest discussionI think the issue is that society generally demonizes the naturally elevated libido of men. In fact, society generally demonizes the natural elevation of libido period. But if the narrative is centered around what women think is acceptable then men will always be villainized. You went to extreme hyperboles and kind of avoided his debate topic by bringing up dehumanizing women. That has nothing to do with libido in the context of OP's stance. That seems like a straw man. Does it not? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/24 10:56 AM |
| 1 | The number of people who refuse to acknowledge that men are way hornier than women is a perfect example of why blue pillers can not be trusted to have an honest discussionI'm not sure if you're hitting any of his debate points. I think you're putting too much of your personal feelings into this. If you have seen this topic before you don't have to read it or comment you can let it go. There are several thousand other subreddits in several thousand other posts. This is the first time I am seeing a post with this topic. Just because you have does that mean no one should write them anymore? That seems very self-involved, no? He's not even asking for your specific en… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/24 10:53 AM |
| – | Committed relationship with a man is a net loss for most women?What I'm saying is You can research my points. My whole opinion is based off of research I have done and I am truthful about that. Tell me how truthful are you about your opinions and how solidified they are in fact. Regardless of sources, let's have some morality here. Do you just believe what you believe or have you actually seen the data. Don't lie now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/24 10:44 AM |
| – | CMV. The social stigma of getting a paternity test should not exist.This is a crazy stance. What you're essentially saying is there are men who want to have paternity tests just so they can make their wives do more work? It has nothing to do with being afraid that the child isn't. Theirs has nothing to do with their fears of being a new parent which is not uncommon? He's not advocating for violence or abandonment. He's literally asking if the child is his and that's it . You have one anecdotal experience secondhand experience by the way in which a man didn't kno… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 08:41 PM |
| – | CMV. The social stigma of getting a paternity test should not exist.That's exactly what the 2% say until they find out they're not a part of the 98. It doesn't matter what you say or whatever excuses you have or mental gymnastics You have to do. All someone has to do is compare risks. What is judgment to being lied to and manipulated to for decades raising someone who is not biologically yours. And people with your stance would usually turn around and shame a man for leaving a child who actually isn't theirs when they find out which I find completely insane. Sha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 08:36 PM |
| – | CMV. The social stigma of getting a paternity test should not exist.This is the same mindset of the women who don't want to have prenups before a marriage. And it's very telling that most women who are against prenups and against DNA tests are the ones who are lying. Assurance is are important in every relationship. Later in these comments, I saw you state that you're glad the stigma exists. But in truth the men asking for these paternity tests are typically men who have reason to be suspicious. It's not just any man though. Any man gets shamed for it which is w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 08:30 PM |
| 1 | Committed relationship with a man is a net loss for most women?I agree his sources are opinion pieces but so was yours. I'm surprised you're this shut down to debate on a debate subreddit when you are throwing out opinions that conveniently make you seem better than your male counterparts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 08:19 PM |
| 1 | Committed relationship with a man is a net loss for most women?Okay, what I'm saying is actually backed up by fact though. That's why I said statistically. you cannot say the same, sources provided or not. Yours is fueled by bias alone, mine I have seen the date on which led me to form an opinion. That's the only real difference. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 08:14 PM |
| 1 | Committed relationship with a man is a net loss for most women?I need to see data on all that. Can you provide some sources? Also, You said " in their 30s" " especially women" "[don't] really want to be fucking about not really achieving anything." This comment you recently made is talking about starting families early and being interested in careers early. that is not "in your 30s". I would like to see data on women being more interested in careers and education early and I would like data on them being more serious about their lives in their 30s compared … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 11:47 AM |
| 2 | Committed relationship with a man is a net loss for most women?"especially women"? I'd like to see the data on this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 03:07 AM |
| 2 | "Enjoy the decline" is a perfectly viable strategyIf this doesn't apply, let it fly but I feel like this is a projection and your life is actually not great. So you decide to make fantastical stories online to make yourself feel better. Because anyone who's actually untouchable isn't bothered by comments online. Plus this just sounds like humble bragging which is a clear sign of BS in a lot of cases. Also saying you were depressed once upon a time is so reductive to the disease of depression. If you're using it as a hyperbole that's fine, but a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/24 12:23 PM |
| 1 | How come it is almost never considered that a guy can develop feelings for a woman he is friends with and that he just became friends to get into her pants?Again, you're making assumptions about this man saying that his priority is his penis. That's not a real argument. You don't know him. He has already conveyed that he finds value in those friendships but would ORGANICALLY move towards relationships if it felt right. If you think women are always priority number two, then that's your bias and your projection not ours. I personally think people are equal but that doesn't mean women deserve to be put above our potential happiness just so they can h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 04:56 PM |
| -1 | How come it is almost never considered that a guy can develop feelings for a woman he is friends with and that he just became friends to get into her pants?I'd say the same on both sides. Don't be surprised if your friendship is misconstrued as more since most relationships Statistically are born from friendships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 01:18 PM |
| 3 | How come it is almost never considered that a guy can develop feelings for a woman he is friends with and that he just became friends to get into her pants?I think this is a terrible point. You don't owe anyone in explanation for why you need to emotionally protect yourself. No one is owed a friendship just like no one is owed a relationship. If a woman thinks so lowly of you that you would do all this pretending just to get in her pants then she never really respected you in the first place and she's way too quick to paint you as a villain without taking your feelings into account. Seems like she was never truly a friend. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 07:37 AM |
| 4 | How come it is almost never considered that a guy can develop feelings for a woman he is friends with and that he just became friends to get into her pants?It's odd that you're trying to shame this guy for going after someone he's physically and mentally attracted to just because they are friends. Statistically most relationships start up as friends and statistically most women say they would like their relationships to start off as friendships. But it seems that you're just a shaming him for no reason, throwing out some insane reasoning like he values his penis over his friendships when he clearly said he enjoys the friendships, but would take it … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 07:33 AM |
| 7 | What is the actual reason why men get shamed for having preferences? No need to single him out. I think you two are talking about two sides of the same coin. Men do have high relationship standards, but low sexual standards due to the influence of testosterone and our naturally elevated desired to procreate. Women have high relationship and sexual standards, which can be attributed to seeking safety, security, and stability, even in a one-off situation. This will naturally mean that women will have sex with partners who are above them in terms of market value (… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/24 12:17 PM |
| 1 | Society seems to assign womanhood virtue.I think you're conflating 2 things and creating false equivalencies. Failing in the modern romantic vehicle is not only due to bad personality. Men with bad personalities can still get women if they look good enough and men with good personalities can still be lonely if they look bad enough. That's just common sense. To suggest otherwise, would either mean a disingenuous approach or a lack of intelligence. Just because a woman with a bad personality would become an incel doesn't mean all in cell… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/24 02:27 PM |
| 4 | I genuinely think people underestimate female toxicityOhh my bad then. Quick question though, what makes the paraplegic who took care of his wife with cancer a "shitty" man? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/24 01:29 PM |
| 9 | I genuinely think people underestimate female toxicityLol you're done with this discussion because I said cops are people. My uncle is a cop. He does not have a low IQ. It's odd that in the society people can be angry at you for just seeing other people as human. But if you want someone to hate I won't stand in your way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/24 01:13 PM |
| 3 | I genuinely think people underestimate female toxicityOMG - either you're not reading what I'm writing or you're not understanding. Racism absolutely still exists. I still experience it frequently. But it is not socially acceptable. If you think racism or berating people is socially acceptable then you have the problem. The argument isn't that women don't get berated the argument isn't that racism doesn't exist. The argument is that those things are not socially acceptable. That if You brought up those actions as a way to shame someone they would w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/24 01:10 PM |
| 4 | I genuinely think people underestimate female toxicityYeah that's literally the point I'm making.... Those people are wrong. I don't see how you're making any different statement. I've never said and will never say all cops are evil. Because cops are people. People can be good or evil. I think we're straying away from the main argument. There are absolutely some cops who were dangerous before becoming cops. They would have attacked someone somewhere down the road in their lifetime. Being a cop didn't change that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/24 01:07 PM |
| 2 | I genuinely think people underestimate female toxicityAre we talking about before or are we talking about now? I'm African American. Society used to treat us like trash they don't anymore. I can make that distinction as a modern human being. Those podcasts you're talking about are a niche community which is labeled toxic by almost every other community that is adjacent to it. I know people who hide the fact that they listen to those podcasts because they don't want to be seen that way. It's kind of like pedophilia (excuse the tangent) it happens a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/24 01:01 PM |
| 8 | I genuinely think people underestimate female toxicityI'm black though so I understand the applications of that statement. That however will not make me walk on eggshells around other people when I'm in a debate setting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/24 12:55 PM |
| 5 | I genuinely think people underestimate female toxicityThat's fine. But I don't see how any of my points are ignorant. I'm not saying it's okay to attack women. And nowhere in that statement am I absolving those men of their crimes. I'm just saying that those men are loaded guns looking for targets. Some men do only target women but that is not the majority of violent attackers. Still, no one should be attacked. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/24 12:53 PM |
| 2 | I genuinely think people underestimate female toxicityOkay so when she tells the several stories of being berated, do people clap? Are they happy that she got berated and criticized? Or does she usually tell those stories as a way to garner sympathy because she believes it to be wrong and she believes her audience will believe it to be wrong? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/24 12:51 PM |
| 2 | I genuinely think people underestimate female toxicityAgain. Your glossing over the statement " socially acceptable" You're literally telling these instances to the internet and we are telling you that they are not acceptable and we are society. Just because they did it to you doesn't mean that that was socially acceptable. Do you understand that? I should add that it shouldn't be socially acceptable to berate anyone. Man or woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/24 12:48 PM |
| 4 | I genuinely think people underestimate female toxicityNo, but men do get murdered more than women for just existing. And many people regurgitate the statement "by other men" but that's just victim blaming imo. Since the killer is in most cases mentally unwell, they literally can't represent men as whole or be considered a part of the same group. In that same vein, those mentally unwell men didn't need those women to say no for them to attack. They were always bound to attack someone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/24 12:47 PM |
| 3 | I genuinely think people underestimate female toxicityYeah this was alarming to hear. I think this commenter has a clear biased against men calling a paraplegic a shitty man even though he took care of his wife with cancer. At that point, are there good men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/24 12:27 PM |
| 4 | I genuinely think people underestimate female toxicityThis line of questioning is very telling. It seems you have a biased against men though you're trying to insinuate. He has a biased against women when he literally said he's not making generalizations he's giving you a specific experience. Anyone with any literary background who analyzed your comments can tell you are being condescending and arguing in bad faith from the get-go. Why does this have to be the go-to? Why can't we just have civil discussions? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/24 12:24 PM |
| 7 | I genuinely think people underestimate female toxicityI disagree with this statement heavily. I believe women and men are equally shitty. And I believe that women have the capacity to be just as shittiest man when put in the right circumstances. If we believe men are the more physical creatures while women are the more social creatures than it would be obvious that women and men " attack" in different ways. Men attack physically women attack socially but they attack at the same rates and with the same ferocity. The impacts are just different | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/24 12:20 PM |
| 22 | I genuinely think people underestimate female toxicityThis is not a true statement. If you did a search it would be very very easy to find posts that makes sweeping generalizations of hate. There are literally posts titled "I hate all men." And they are women in the comments defending that statement not clarifying it. In truth, there is no difference between the toxic feminine and toxic masculine. The only difference is your bias. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/24 12:18 PM |
| 14 | I genuinely think people underestimate female toxicityI think you glossed over the very beginning sentence which is odd. Socially acceptable is the key word. Please don't argue in bad faith. You know this to be true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/24 12:15 PM |
| 1 | What are things you hate about other women?That's not true at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/24 01:47 AM |
| – | Women, how often do you make a guy (you like) wait for sex while having an active FWB on the side?I think it's naive to truly believe that what we experience doesn't shape us in some way. Experts can tell if you're middle child just by the way you speak and your mannerisms. I think in many cases it's very easy to tell when a man or woman has a proclivity to entertain multiple partners. There are always signs and footprints in the psyche. This goes for everyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/24 10:12 PM |
| 8 | “Don’t bother a woman at [location]. She’s just there to [do activity].”"If you start getting very negative responses every time, reconsider what you're doing or try a different avenue". I really should've said "more women" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/24 06:56 AM |
| 1 | “Don’t bother a woman at [location]. She’s just there to [do activity].”I sort of disagree with this. I think a lot of times people can take your kindness for granted, especially on reddit. The point of this post is clearly just find the best way to ask out a woman so that you can get a positive response. Clearly you can ask out a woman anytime anywhere because we have free will and many of us can use vocal cords to communicate our thoughts. I feel as if the original commenter was being obtuse on purpose | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/24 05:26 AM |
| 4 | “Don’t bother a woman at [location]. She’s just there to [do activity].”I really wish women would follow this advice too | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/24 05:23 AM |
| 1 | Do most women really dislike being approached in general?So if you want sex, you'll cold approach someone in the same way you don't want to be approached to get it? Or you'll reach out to one of your male friends and ask them to just have a sexual relationship with you? Realistically it sounds like if you want sex you have to be in a relationship to get it unless you are being just as rude to the man you are asking sex from | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/24 07:28 PM |
| 1 | Do most women really dislike being approached in general?But those people only got to know you because they thought you were attractive. If you weren't attractive to them, they would have never wanted to get to know you. That is the bottom line. Your personality did nothing to change their minds. You can trick yourself into thinking you dude but it didn't. You being attractive was very much. Literally the first step into making sure you guys got into a relationship because he is (generally) the pursuer and he pursued what he thought. Looked attractive… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/24 07:24 PM |
| 1 | There is a correlation between women's gravitation towards Dark Triad personality traits, and their propensity for being victimsWhoa, I thought this post was about the dark triad. I thought we were debating the dark triad. I thought we were talking about women who were attracted to men with darker traits. No need to get angry. I'm absolutely aware that women want to date friendly men. Women are not a monolith but if we are talking about women who are attracted to darker traits which is the title over this entire post. Then I think my point still stands. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/24 08:15 PM |
| 1 | There is a correlation between women's gravitation towards Dark Triad personality traits, and their propensity for being victimsThat's having your cake and eating it too. If you go out searching for drugs that taste like smell like and feel like drugs but "aren't" drugs, you'll find actually drugs. Is the same with men. Most if not all Actual good men don't want to rape women, EVEN in a fantasy. So the men that are found that are willing to do that without reservation should be seen as red flags IMMEDIATELY. Scorpions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/24 07:09 PM |
| 3 | "You have to work 10 times harder than your grandfathers for women 10 times worse."Nothing here is beneath me. It's just for fun. It's the internet. It's reddit. I would never purposely go places that make me angry like you're doing. Any places that are actually " beneath me" I never visit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/24 01:46 PM |
| 8 | "You have to work 10 times harder than your grandfathers for women 10 times worse."Lol "beneath you" you sound like a cartoon villain. Maybe you should get off the internet if it's making you this mad | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/24 01:39 PM |
| 8 | "You have to work 10 times harder than your grandfathers for women 10 times worse."You're incredibly hostile for no real reason I see. I can tell you're just annoyed with this rhetoric but that's no excuse to say that this man is low IQ or to say that he is asking stupid questions. This is the debate and that is his debate tactic. I swear a lot of women on here claim to be the calmer nicer gender, but from an outside perspective all I see are women berating men for explaining opinions that annoy them. Please do better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/24 12:15 PM |
| 2 | There is a correlation between women's gravitation towards Dark Triad personality traits, and their propensity for being victimsGame is how you know. If they are "good with women" and they are good with you and men are generally bad with you, then you guessed it. That's likely a red flag. Being good with women isn't even really all that difficult but it's not "natural" which is why a lot of men struggle with it. It's about ignoring your genuine reactions and it seems common sense that disingenuous people will be better at that sort of thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/24 12:24 AM |
| 9 | There is a correlation between women's gravitation towards Dark Triad personality traits, and their propensity for being victimsI think this is a classic case of scorpion and the frog. You can say there is no causation only correlation but that does not change the end result. The dark triad is really just red flags. I understand that women are attracted to these traits, but let's examine what these traits are really. Experience. Experience is the refinement of organic reaction. A lot of women say they want a man with game. But game just means putting on a show to attract. That's not genuine. I don't even think all women … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/24 10:57 PM |
| -1 | There is a correlation between women's gravitation towards Dark Triad personality traits, and their propensity for being victimsI think the general idea is men don't complain that the things they masturbated to manipulated them. If you want to be with something that's taboo that's fine, but just don't turn around and say the scorpion manipulated you after it stings | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/24 10:50 PM |
| 4 | There is a correlation between women's gravitation towards Dark Triad personality traits, and their propensity for being victimsI think the dark triad is the red flag. A lot of women just don't want to admit that they are attracted to those red flags. In fact, a lot of women say they want a man with game. Examine that sentence. "Game" means playing a game. The fact that they seek that out itself is telling | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/24 10:47 PM |
| 1 | Why are we glorifying doing normal adult thingsI think you're conflating the normality of your lifestyle and downplaying your privileges. I think the general idea behind the statements is the guy does those things well and consistently. A lot of times life gets in the way of consistency. Unless someone is dying in their own filth they are cleaning to some degree unless they are complete shut-in they are hanging out with their friends at a normal frequency. A lot of times we forget that people die every day and that depression and loneliness … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/24 10:32 PM |
| 1 | Why does it seem like progressiveness towards the gender roles only apply toward women?No angst. That's you reading into my comment. I'm very calm. I think you're projecting then playing it off as humor. But that's just my opinion | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/24 10:45 AM |
| 2 | What do you being to the tableAnd yet you made the comment. "Men will date a woman who drowns puppies for fun." You didn't say some men you said men. Does that mean the well-rounded men that you know are dating puppy drowners? If not, then you've supported my point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/24 04:38 AM |
| 1 | What do you being to the tableWho is arguing for Red pill here? Not me. That's what I mean by bias. I never once mentioned red pill. Very odd. I'm giving you a very clear argument but you keep on fighting a ghost of a past argument you had with some red piller. Read the words I'm writing, not the fake conversations going on in your head. Also, my apologies, I didn't realize you were male. I still see some biases. Please believe me when I say men and women are more like than you care to admit | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/24 04:34 AM |
| – | What do you being to the tableNot even trying to be insulting but I don't think you have the capacity to have a real argument. You're tainted by your bias and hatred against men. Most men aren't posting on Reddit... You know that right? Break out of your box. You're literally saying that men HAVE NEVER been rejected just because of their looks. Then you're saying women HAVE NEVER. Looked down on or thought less of a man who they deem unattractive. That's asinine. Know why? Women are humans. They do shitty stuff too. That's n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/24 02:12 AM |
| 3 | What do you being to the tableThis comment confirms your bias and hatred towards men. There's nothing left to talk about. As if women are the only humans capable of having deep relationships. Sounds like all the men YOU hang around are trash. That's a skill issue | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/24 02:04 AM |
| 6 | What do you being to the tableI'm not making that argument. I understand you may see it everyday but I am not making it. My argument is that women care about looks the same as men and yet pretend as if they have some sort of innate altruism that makes them look at personality more than men do. And don't pretend as if women many women don't frame it as such that men are shallow compared to them. I think You're guilty of doing the same thing you claim men are doing. Hearing what you want to hear. Men aren't saying oh so women … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/24 10:45 PM |
| 3 | Why does it seem like progressiveness towards the gender roles only apply toward women?Sorry, I should have added /s. Because your anecdotal diatribe should have been flagged in your head as a useless comment before you typed it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/24 10:41 PM |
| 4 | What do you being to the tableYeah, when are we as a society going to be honest about how important looks are when it comes to dating? I think most men are honest about it but not all. And I know people like to hide behind the " personality is the most important thing" debate. But we've all known a man or woman (and not just one) who has fallen for a pretty face despite the red flags. This whole " I don't just want someone nice" stance is not genuine. Because if someone is attractive enough all they have to be is nice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/24 09:23 PM |
| – | Men are delusional as much as women, if not more.I think you're forgetting that thin young people can be unattractive. Attractive people are attractive. I think there's a baseline for attractiveness when it comes to the general public and I think thin is among the list, but just because they're thin and college age does not mean they are attractive. That's my argument | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/24 09:06 PM |
| 1 | Women tell men how to be attractive not sexually attractive and men struggle because of itI think where we differ is that you're judging people on what they do naturally while I'm not. Till the end of time people will do what they can to get what they want and so will you. You're no better than anyone else. Don't kid yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/24 09:04 PM |
| – | Men are delusional as much as women, if not more.Of course it sounds that way to you. You're biased. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/24 07:32 PM |
| – | Men are delusional as much as women, if not more.I really dislike arguments like these where women claim that men aren't valuing their looks enough. If you are a woman that dates women and you are attracted to women, that's fine. You can view women as beautiful flawless creatures. Men don't have to. Men are allowed to have standards. They are allowed to have beauty standards just like women are. Unless you're God and you're the moral authority of the universe and everything you think about anything is always right. You cannot say that someone'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/24 07:17 PM |
| – | Men are delusional as much as women, if not more.He just explained that it's not settling. How did you miss that first sentence? The clear difference is women think they're settling men do not think they're settling. It's really just semantics because if they both end up with their respective matches, It's socially more common for the woman to complain then the man that she settled. Hell some women even say going 50/50 is settling. Really examine that sentence. Doing equal work is settling for some women I've never ever heard A man say going 5… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/24 07:12 PM |
| 10 | Why does it seem like progressiveness towards the gender roles only apply toward women?This is what is commonly known as anecdotal experience. " Every woman you know" is infinitesimally small compared to the actual amount of women that are out there. Not to mention women are not a monolith. So you speaking for all women by using a small subset is odd. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/24 06:53 PM |
| 2 | Do you believe most men respect women you meet?I'm not even trying for an insult. I'm genuinely serious. If that stuff is showing up on your feed, that's not an accident. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/24 06:26 PM |
| 3 | Do you believe most men respect women you meet?The p*** you're talking about is a specific category. If you're watching that you probably have some trauma. I've never come across that. ever. It's really not hard to not see that type of stuff at all. Very odd and telling that that's what's on your feed. But maybe you're just thinking of a specific article you saw that was hyperbolic. At the end of the day, humans can be deranged men and women alike. You could make that type of stuff illegal but you never make it stop. The people doing that an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/24 12:44 PM |
| 0 | Do you believe most men respect women you meet?I don't agree with this. I've rarely seen men be rude to older women that they aren't attracted to like aunts, grandmas, teachers, professors. I think past a certain age, past a mature age, that's when we should be judging a whole genders actions (If we should be at all), but I think a lot of women inflate the college frat bro mindset to all men that exist out there. Men who work and work hard are not flooding social media. Those are mostly children. In public a man would be shamed by men and wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/24 12:37 PM |
| 1 | How do you think you guys will handle it once it's over and you're settled down?I don't think one man's anecdotal experience can prove anything, but that's just me I guess. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/24 11:37 AM |
| 9 | Women tell men how to be attractive not sexually attractive and men struggle because of itYou asked me how it was a privileged position. That's what I answered. Now you're asking me a completely different question that does not have to do with what I said. If you read it, I said that this on face value is not an unfair set of rules in the world. But yes, if a man wants something that does not want him then he must go the extra mile to obtain that. If he has to lie he will lie, women do the same when they try to change a guy. It's human nature, not rocket science | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/24 11:19 AM |
| 34 | Does the Destiny situation prove that redpill is right?Yea I agree with this. One very famous streamer having relationship issues is not proof in any sense. It's odd to conflate that, Even if it does support your point completely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/24 12:29 AM |
| 14 | Women tell men how to be attractive not sexually attractive and men struggle because of itIt's privileged to suggest he should just "be himself" That assumes that there is someone out there who will just naturally be attracted to that. This is where your privileged mindset is flourishing because of your bias. Gentle women are still looking for cavemen and cavewomen are still looking for gentlemen in some regard. But what you've done is taken away the agency of the man to choose who they like. Instead they have to settle for who likes them. On face value I don't think this is an unfai… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/24 12:24 AM |
| 4 | Women tell men how to be attractive not sexually attractive and men struggle because of itThere's an intersectionality between being tall and being a different race and that connection to threat assessment based on personal bias. In that instance, I do not believe this is race baiting as I am bringing up a very real issue. However, I am not asking to focus on race, but instead focus on how physically imposing people are 100% profiled. I feel it's disingenuous to even argue the opposite just because you have some very niche lived experiences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/24 12:15 AM |
| 35 | Women tell men how to be attractive not sexually attractive and men struggle because of itThat's a very privileged position to take. As the receiver in the modern romantic vehicle, you don't understand that attracting women takes more than putting a for sale sign on the window. I do believe that women are not a monolith, but I don't believe that their standards are as different as they think. In order to attract most women or any woman, you need to fit a base standard. Many men are not born with the resources to achieve that standard. We speak for them, the ignored; not the winners y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/24 11:45 PM |
| 10 | Women tell men how to be attractive not sexually attractive and men struggle because of itYou've obviously never been profiled because you're a woman. As a man and a man of color and a tall man of color, many women absolutely treat me like a threat compared to my shorter and lighter skinned friends. Humans are natural threat assessors. Don't be obtuse and think that the size of the threat doesn't matter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/24 11:38 PM |
| 7 | If one group is more desperate than the other in a deal, that increases the chance of injustice happening to the desperate member of the deal.It's odd and actually kind of unnerving that you are kind of humble bragging about your height when no one asked and when you claim to understand the challenges of those who don't meet those standards. I'm also in that desired height range but it actually makes me more sympathetic to the struggles of those who aren't. Not boastful about how I'm blessed and they're not. It screams insecurity from you which is odd since you have a girlfriend and claim to have won the genetic lottery. But personali… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/24 06:52 PM |
| – | Why push for a relationship, marriage and even kids when you are fundamentally unable to trust your partner?This is a terrible argument. You can't force your house or car to "never change". He's talking about protection. Look beyond the trigger of simple metaphors. When you have a boyfriend you don't want him flirting with other women. It's disrespectful in it's own right but WHY is it disrespectful? It insinuates your value is less in the relationship. You can protect yourself by having that *usually unspoken* boundary. Even though not ever flirt cheats and not every cheat flirts. He can protect hims… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/24 03:32 PM |
| 1 | If someone is content being single, then their standards can be as high as they wantThat's called confirmation bias. Women say these things all the time. Just cuz you're not around to hear them doesn't mean it doesn't happen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/24 12:19 PM |
| 1 | If someone is content being single, then their standards can be as high as they wantYou seem to love making wildly unsupported claims like these. You have no evidence to support your claims but anecdotal thoughts yet you parade around like they are definitive proven truths. You completely ignored that almost ever man on this thread has their own anecdotal experience that directly contradicts what you have neither proven or supported. From an outside perspective, YOU are just another commenter with confirmation bias, who never even stopped to question if your claims have any val… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/24 12:12 PM |
| – | A lot of men waste time on women who don't really appreciate them.You immediately started with a strawman. "Deserve to be abused" who in their right mind would ever think anyone on this earth deserved to be abused. Immediately? Really? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/24 09:51 PM |
| – | A lot of men waste time on women who don't really appreciate them.When you are no longer a child you cannot expect someone to protect you if you cannot first protect yourself. Especially a stranger. If you choose a man that you and everyone else can see has red flags. The burden is on no one but you to get away. I cannot control that man. He is not complaining. You are complaining, that means you must find a solution because it is your life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/24 08:43 PM |
| – | A lot of men waste time on women who don't really appreciate them.What's with these insults? So now when someone wants to be appreciated they don't have a stable sense of self. You have real hatred in your heart for other people to even jump to that conclusion. Find healing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/24 08:41 PM |
| 1 | Which historical women =did not survive because= they refused to marry anyone?I'd say the same to you. He's clearly asking you for clear evidence to back up your points and you keep responding with half truths with just enough concrete evidence that it seems to support your point until he dives deeper into it. It's not his fault that you have weak sources. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/24 02:11 PM |
| 6 | I am thoroughly confused by the current sexual landscape.You're being obtuse on purpose. He's speaking about generalities obviously. Are you not a math teacher? Do you not know what the word statistics means? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/24 02:05 PM |
| 6 | I am thoroughly confused by the current sexual landscape.We definitely think lowly of those 10% of cheating men that some women love to pick. And we think lowly of those women as well. not rocket science | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/24 02:02 PM |
| 11 | Why do some people bend over backwards to find excuses for everything women do?Why don't you apologize for being condescending to him when he actually had sources | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/24 01:56 PM |
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