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Welfare programmes degeneracy debt inflation all the same out of control.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 06:49 PM
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A consequence of socialism, no vigour in the economy stagnant job prospects with inflation, as per Japan, I'd be surprised if it wasn't the same throughout Europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 08:18 PM
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Back in the days of common sense women could only be seen as sluts for their behaviour, but then feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 07:35 PM
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No because when I'm 100% on my purpose and in full game mode women will tell me how they want to suck me dry etc the difference is huge between that and when they see me as settled for, it's what they crave... a better man. It is inate!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 07:05 PM
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Every holes a goal
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 11:12 PM
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Obviously, but since lower classes tend to have more children it hardly matters in the genetics race.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 09:32 PM
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Wrong spreading seed is the easiest thing for men, it is zero effort, he will pick and chose those children he chose to protect, if it isn't why are there so many single mothers today who don't give a fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 06:24 PM
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People in general tend to move over left to right, with age, the exception of uber rich liberal hippy types where money is never a problem. Currently a thing in our country, everyone wants to virtue signal over 'global warming' and the 'poor' then when energy bills blow up 100%, you're running around like an idiot just to cover bills, reality hits; not much fun when you have kids and a mortgage.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 05:42 PM
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It doesn't mean she isn't guilty, she got herself a high powered barrister thanks to massive backing to overturn her verdict, not a single piece of independent analysis backed her.
/r/MensRights31/01/22 03:13 PM
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In times of peace we emasculate only.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 06:14 PM
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It clearly affects men and what they see. Suicide rates and mental health issues all will continue to increase.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 06:13 PM
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You get the lettuce and put it at one side of a sturdy metal fence with railings, let the goat get its head through so its trapped with its horns locked in there, and you get behind it and have your way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 09:32 PM
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If anything permanent swipe right punishes you, I haven't swiped right on one of those gold match 1/4 chances it brings up, and I haven't in a year ever had it not win the 1/4 chance because I always X them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 09:27 PM
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Yous should follow AMS ​ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0it1cu-mt\_IcvLTQ4CWcHw
/r/seduction10/01/22 08:00 PM
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How is his money relevant when they are being fucked and out the door in 10 minutes, on a conveyor belt, they don't get a penny. The point is everything is relative, therefore you are your best self. I cant have a queue of women out my door like that, but I will damn well get through a decent amount of women relatively within my habitat because of how the women perceive me.
/r/seduction10/01/22 07:26 PM
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High value male movie/sports stars already have soft hareems, the wife has to suck it up for her lifestyle. No need for any kidnaping, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 07:17 PM
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Right so black male stars who have women suck their dick after 5 mins of meeting and they then leave the room aren't attractive, the women just do it for fun.
/r/seduction10/01/22 04:28 PM
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Anyone using words like 'privilege' is stuffed in woke identity politics, everything about you screams looser and victim, and you can't understand why have no luck, its pretty obvious why, women want champions not victims. For all your claims at the start of this thread about you "trying everything", you haven't learnt anything, just an angry ranter. I could find 100's of black male stars that have ploughed through 100's of white women.
/r/seduction09/01/22 11:04 PM
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No Leo has been chubby like that for years, and any other times he's had very little muscle, and been the most average body shape you can get. Doesn't make any difference what colour you are, to the contrary in fact, women are innately predisposed to find genetic variety, so it can only help you, these are issues in the martix you live in that don't exist. I'm not here to brag, you're the one who has no interest in seduction and presenting things as a matter of fact that don't exist, because you…
/r/seduction09/01/22 12:58 PM
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You should really Google Di Caprio on the beach in his last photos. Wow what a rant, your game must be garbage, I'm 5'6 before i put my Cuba heel shoes on. and have no problem gaming women, and taller than me, that's the point of learning game and cold approach, stay in blackpill incel world, what are you even doing here?
/r/seduction09/01/22 01:59 AM
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To a point, women begin to value their pussy value more post 30's, living in grandmas basement past then wont cut it.
/r/seduction09/01/22 12:55 AM
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Leo Di Caprio- and he's well known for pumping and dumping and onto the next one. Fascinating that you think a man who works on his looks isn't compensating though? ​ "Women care for qualities that take effort, dedication and sacrifice"- As the guy says at the top; and you become rich and famous from that, in most cases. ​ Women cant judge voice totality, presence, body language, masculinity, how you interact from meaningless words on paper, hence OLD is flawed and if you have issues you go into…
/r/seduction09/01/22 12:51 AM
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I think the problem comes from the use of word like 'popularity' and 'status. I would argue he's right, you don't need to be popular to have status. Leo DC and many other chubby stars with women half their age show that looks really don't matter, the whole issue of online dating as to why women bulk their preferences towards looks is that they have nothing else to go off, which is why in the wild I can get the same woman I couldn't get on Tinder.
/r/seduction08/01/22 10:35 PM
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Only an issue on OLD for incels who cant speak to women anyway, so 100 matches a day would make fuck all difference anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 08:27 PM
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Status trumps all. Manufactured boy bands with the most average looking men has always allowed them access to a conveyor belt of women. Its no difference to pot bellied Leo DC dating women half his age.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 01:29 PM
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Nope cos men don't work like that. Why do you think so many professional women are remaining single now and childless, women need a man of minimum same status and they can't find them, and its very rare every younger by any significance. Being emotionally aware is just new aged hippy bollocks, being in a masculine frame is what drives women insatiable, equality relationships are why the divorce rate is so high. Let women moan, ask occasional question never try to see it as a problem to solve, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 10:18 PM
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Funny how so many average men that are rich and famous get women well above what the kids call 'looks match' and in age difference. No its not a trad thing it, men need usually to incur sunk costs for instinctual mate selectivity reasons, and women for the most part since instinctually having kids from sex is a heavy investment that cannot be differentiated from man made contraception.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 07:09 PM
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Most men still pay for dates, the same woman would not agree to just walk to your bedroom if you had just pointed at her, hence why some men argue in most cases 'you always pay for it'. Unless everyone is just doing straight hookup sin 10 mins, but then we would be both objectifying each other for sexual relief, hence a meaningless mess of definitions.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 06:50 PM
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No since you are not the thought police and cannot determine the mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 06:33 PM
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No since objectification is still subjective. Which only became common parlance since the dawn of identity politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 06:20 PM
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Everyone objectifies everything as above, it just depends if you have an -ism identity politics name for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 05:27 PM
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your arbitrary woke horseshit rules, since I don't date old fat or ugly women. So I'm an ageist, sizeist, lookist. As 99% of young men, just a load of made up crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 04:39 PM
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Your arbitrary definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 08:09 AM
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What is a fetish though? Men wanting women with big jugs?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 11:31 PM
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I swear 90% of cuck amateur videos involve a black dude, also funny how you get woke white people thinking that a black dude would find it racist because someone is offering to drain his balls in some women on a plate, like he wouldn't go though with it if he thought he was being fetishized, lol, taking offence on other people's behalf. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 06:40 PM
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You just need to be savvy, if necessary use a voice recorder app on your phone that's easily available. I have my women jump on me , so it will never be an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 06:26 PM
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Not sure why the gym is relevant, women use any excuse to get their baps on display, how did Halloween become how it is now so randomly?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 05:57 PM
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99% of of those claimed cases don't make court, because everyone knows its BS, unless you literally scooped her off the floor. People don't accept you can take a car to court because you got in it drunk for the same reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 05:41 PM
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They will only ever know mediocre because that is who they are as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 10:20 PM
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Women will 'loose themselves' with men they see as superior and alpha, if she isn't pouncing on you looking for her best ride, you're a provider.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 09:05 PM
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Only women who open their legs easy ever have such an issue, so its always telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 08:51 PM
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I could probably only find a 1000 examples of 20 year old models dating 50 year old fat billionaires with a 1 min Google search.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 08:43 PM
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This is why you need to be alpha in personality first and foremost, Bezos can have all the money and influence in the world, but he is still seen as beta to her. Amazingly Mike Tyson even had the same problem with his first wife, because he was so beta to her..
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 08:32 PM
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Men can only be slut makers.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 08:31 PM
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Nope all wrong wording; good guys beat bad guys beat nice guys last, think James Bond as good guy then the villain as bad guy, but nice guys last.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 08:42 PM
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90% of men are nice guys. So if 10% left being good and bad guys being better options.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 04:59 PM
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I like it, because it saves me even to having read their profile, if her kids are in there I can click X within a microsecond, it is not negotiable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 04:35 PM
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They will fuck good men, good guys beat bad guys beat nice guys last. Bad guys is more prevalent for hood type girls only, most people cant see the difference between good and nice guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 04:14 PM
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Women are innately attracted to men they fear
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 04:01 PM
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No such thing as sex addiction, men will do it with as many women as possible and have done since the dawn of time, based on their personal morals and ability to do so. The whole thing of 'sex addiction' only came about from big time male stars fucking hundreds of women behind his wife's back and the media finding out, it, and him going for some horseshit 'treatment', for her to save face. How many average men need 'sex addiction treatment'- None.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 04:00 PM
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Woah, big difference between boys who know what they're getting into and molestation, nobody is advocating 2 year olds! Geez
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 03:59 PM
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Men would be ganbanging 10 different women a night if they had that access, its just a dumb and obvious question.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 03:39 PM
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Horseshit, men who get laid earlier tend to be be far more self confident.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 03:36 PM
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She might have rules, sometimes that happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 11:31 AM
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Look at the number of women who will throw themselves at hardened criminals they never met, or the number of female prison guards found fucking inmates, there was a piece yesterday about a educated solicitor sending nudes to her meat cleaver yielding client in prison, there's your answer, nice guys don't get those images or treatment. Incels will claim looks, height and income, most of those men were broke as fuck and as average looing as you get.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 09:44 AM
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It 'used' to happen to an extent in most western countries, depending in which country, it was usually under 'home economics'. But then a load of feminists got involved and it all got binned. Bring a man a beer after a long day at work, with his pipe and slippers.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 03:08 AM
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indirectly meaning weak asexual nice guy to her
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 08:56 PM
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Works both ways, those men are just trying to 'nice' there way into pussy. You have entered the friends zone.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 08:55 PM
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All the evidence shows that high n slut casual behaviour in women is only determined by upbringing, its entire phycological driven for women in most cases, regardless on any levels of testosterone or any genetic variables; notably women who have a negative view of their fathers in particular. I also notice that in younger women who look for significantly older men, who have daddy issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 05:29 PM
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It's irrelevant, as above, black women in the USA aren't living as a different species, same trends with same variables of 'upbringing'.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 01:26 AM
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White, blue, green black wouldn't make any difference for the purposes of 'upbringing', you find Polish women from very Christian Poland that move to the UK becoming more promiscuous in line with the same culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 12:27 AM
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You do if you use statistics so are focused on variables and clear in language, and it only had to be dragged in after your poor assumption about me being in some caste system in India.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 12:11 AM
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Im the most western white non religious man you can meet, get that bee out of your bonnet, your off on the wrong track, and I can assure you no woman with 50 plus partners tells her husband, women don't even tell their best friends about all their hookups and discount mentally the numbers of men they had sex with that 'don't count'. So the notion that its so open is rubbish. There's just clearly women who have waited for relationship sex only at one end, and women who quite happily go through pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 11:58 PM
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I'm clearly not arguing that, it was specifically relating to higher n slut behaviour in Western women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 11:42 PM
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Accounting for all variables minus religious groups, female propensity to promiscuity/ slut behaviour is entirely governed by upbringing, regardless of any testosterone or genetic variables.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 11:27 PM
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Only in a sense that it provided men with a place to drain his balls. The negative side that given men's millions of years of evolutionary desires to spread seed it comes at a huge waste of time and effort, when it doesn't fulfill that purpose today.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 09:27 PM
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It was feminism indirectly, they decided that women shouldn't be dictated to by men, so instead they decided it should only be done by other women, and then women had no slut shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 09:22 PM
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Beginners only, and inevitably.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 12:36 AM
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So, you're stood at the bus stop and a guy casually asks you about the bus times and you get chatting?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 12:33 AM
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Its not just that, if you dont have the balls in principle to cold approach you wont have the skills to bed women, OLD alone is a crutch making up for what wont help you. Personally I avoid the gym and work, don't shit where you eat, its not necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 12:30 AM
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Facts
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 09:02 AM
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Most boys brought up by single mothers go off the rails, doesn't work like that in short.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 07:08 PM
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All wrong, nothing to do with genes, men in more high powered and status jobs tend to fuck around, and women regardless of any genetics or hormones are only sluts by upbringing metrics accounting for all variables, and we have decades of evidence boys brought up by single mothers end up with the same lifestyle as father's.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 07:07 PM
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Outside of your teenage years its pretty obvious looking at anyone famous you can get far more women just being average looking, as per Leo DC as the prime example, pot bellied guy now, not that great looking, fat ugly Harvey W even with with his deformed dick had the same women returning from hotel rooms. Not saying everyone can be a movie star, but everything is relative, hence your purpose, better game and having other things are far far higher and better attributes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 09:47 AM
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Yes, but their women aren't sluts, so the issue doesn't come up for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 05:00 AM
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Well yeah, and it doesn't matter how much money or power you get either. Jeff Bezos is being fleeced by a gold digger who will have the shirt off his back. You either get the nature of women or don't, I can see crazy a mile off. I'll fuck for a same day lay, but will press an voice recorder app on my phone when we're back alone.
/r/seduction27/12/21 02:18 AM
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As above 'Plus, no guarantee the person ‘you know’ is a good guy.' And if you think OLD somehow better lol, I bet the number of sluts going for an ONS who were murdered rather than cold approach is much higher from Tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 12:28 AM
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Its like using pre selection in game, its just instinctually hardwired into most women, 'friends of friends means safe and familiar', even if you point out your obvious logical fallacy, but they'd still happily use OLD without ever having met in person lol. Which is also true for men, I can gauge more about you in a 2 minute cold approach opener than your best duck pouting cleavage lifting photos.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 11:33 PM
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That only happens if you have no game, that is the art, and you must live in a small village if there are enough people to know about you if its 100% cold outside of gym classes, social circle scenarios, as opposed to a a supermarket or bar, which is where you practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 11:28 PM
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Yeah its how everyone used to meet you know, and women are only sluttier now, so leave it for me, no problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 11:01 PM
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My wet dick says otherwise, rather than wasting time swiping hours for nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 10:51 PM
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Never been a better time to learn or do cold approach its a fucking privilege done correctly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 10:50 PM
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I always try to ONS just broken up girls, I think my strike rate is 100%, she's just looking for some comfort validation. Don't delete her number, just reply with a simple x, that's it, no emotion, unreactive, she may well come crawling back and then you can ask her how she plans to make it up to you.
/r/seduction23/12/21 08:21 PM
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Women cant accept responsibility for casual sex, but you should expect to same night lay 50% of women from Tinder, or any date.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 05:15 PM
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Its women's delusional understanding where they sit in the market place, and what value they think they have.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 05:14 PM
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The 'average' is skewed because you have to take out 1 man religious girls so you get the median (statistical difference) girl on the street.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 05:07 PM
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You should never have gone down the 'keep trying line' in the first instance, since you showed your real hand, had you gone down the cold blooded line that you always thought it was better for a break at least and see where you are in 3 months, but with the obvious language you have no intention of doing so, would have been much stronger. Full cold blooded all the way. Never get into any discussions about the relationship, that's women's talk, you just nod now and again and ask only the occasion…
/r/seduction17/12/21 06:35 AM
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Only incels who only know OLD obsess over looks so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 05:06 PM
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Game trumps all... wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 08:21 PM
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Na cos it isn't just arbitrary, Japan had a perfectly health population in the 80's. Declining/ static living standards is the variable in both situations, with the high suicide rates that go with it. That is the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 05:05 PM
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You cant do anything. Its entirety linked to government debt and low interest rates at the core, it stops an economy advancing and strips men of their rigour. Japan is such a good contrast because it retained traditional values and never put up with woke or feminism etc, its the only two variables.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 05:03 PM
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He was incorrect in stating polyamorous, but cucking certainly has been a big part of female behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 11:44 PM
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Cucking yes, but obviously the provider should never find out.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 08:04 PM
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Men hookup with women they don't find that attractive or don't even like as a person all the time. I believe the kids call it 'post nut clarity' these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 12:36 AM
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As above.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 11:35 AM
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You can buy Thomas Sowell books or spend the rest of the week watching his videos where he even covers back to 1925 here where he points out that husband desertion was near non existent...enjoy https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2GklCBvS-eI
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 03:25 AM
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You won't explain anything to me dear I'm well versed in Thomas Sowell. 'Safety nets' don't 'safety' anything and only lead to degeneracy, men abandoning their children was low until this because it only encourages it further so has to be tolerated, it is for her family to support. 'Poverty' is a meaningless emotive arbitrary definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 03:12 AM
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No I didn't say that, you assumed I was putting things in chronological order I am saying the vast increase in single mothers was a result of the welfare state. Liberals decided that the small numbers of men abandoning their children was now a great crusade to be fought and blew the numbers through the roof as a result of 'helping'. It's also important to note that on unmarried on your chart only 12% of men had actually abandoned the women even in 1980 they were just cohabiting, by 2008 that tri…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 02:44 AM
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Rubbish the 'safety net' encouraged single mother
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 02:29 AM
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Exceptions do not make the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 02:27 AM
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Only as a result of women putting out and having children outside marriage, and the welfare state also stepping in, there were clearly other variables for those changes to have taken place in the 70's for it to not be an arbitrary period where it just magically happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 02:19 AM
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Partially, but with or without the pill, women suffered severe shame for having children, sex out of marriage, and single mother were near outcasts So it was still more about feminism and women having no slut shame even in either scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 02:15 AM
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Cos your game sucks. If life were easy it would be a slut not a bitch.
/r/seduction08/12/21 07:42 PM
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Feminism was only pushed by women, who decided that they weren't going to be told what to do by men, only by other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 06:11 PM
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No, why would I eat stale crackerjacks. The vast majority of women at that age are used up single mothers, and I'll fuck a dog before that happens.
/r/seduction06/12/21 08:38 PM
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Much much easier because 30's is the time when the not yet shacked up women are looking for a husband, but they all open their legs in 3 dates and under, never got through so many women. Consider 35 when you should call time on it if you want.
/r/seduction06/12/21 08:29 PM
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Most women cannot mentally live indefinitely as sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 07:49 PM
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The trends which the west is following are the same as what has happened in Japan since the 80's, in Japan they are called 'salary men'.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 07:48 PM
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If it's in a night club and she says nice shit or something along those lines as her opening to you, get her to the bar and then home, she's dtf.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 02:55 AM
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Always agree to meet at bar or coffee shop as the first point especially for OLD, if its straight to a restaurant you could be in for an unpleasant time. I have walked out of dates in 10 minutes before.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 12:56 AM
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And 50 shades is is it, lol? I clarified this here; " I need not have chosen Bond, I could have chosen any male nearly from the 60's-70's in a female romantic film, and they would all have Bond traits, not modern day woke traits which is bs smothered over reality which is the point." And to repeat, it only worked as a franchise because as a character he is congruent with reality. Women haven't evolved from the 30's with Humphry Bogart and Clarke Gable "With frankly my dear I don't give a damn" t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 09:56 PM
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Its entirely relevant sine that is the character that attracts women and will get you the most pootang. Modern day woke smeared over men with some good character traits such as those that he listed above isnt maximizing women's moistness for you, they are flawed imperfect characters, which he is claiming is the prefect character for women. I need not have chosen Bond, I could have chosen any male nearly from the 60's-70's in a female romantic film, and they would all have Bond traits not modern …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 02:58 PM
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Yes the film is aimed at men, and women don't like that as much as a genre, but the point still stands about him as a character, and what worked, it has only stood the test of time until infected by modern woke disease because his character is concurrent of what is attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 05:21 PM
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'Relevant' I think you meant to say. And no, men want to be him, women want to be with him, always will do; in his traditional not woke modern form anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 03:59 PM
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Not the best examples, since even James Bond has been changed into a pathetic wet man now, and not what the original character was, and that is a good contrast over time. They retain some good semblance of the man, but pour woke feminist crap over the top of it. Bond 1964- Slaps woman on bottom then "Run along this is man talk". Today he'd end up in a HR disciplinary, and he certainly wouldn't put up with any of the BS women come out with today.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 01:19 PM
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Rooted in her subconscious natural requirement to vet you.
/r/seduction01/12/21 12:01 PM
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Probably the most over discussed topic ever. Its original origin was only ever to be deployed near the cold opener at most a couple of times, for 9-10 women, for rookies new to game, that is it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 11:18 AM
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Tom Leykis was a fat ugly guy, and he knew it, and he couldn't care less.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 05:21 PM
1

Its not coincidence the male ceo can marry the secretary, but never the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 08:38 PM
1

The animal that can provide the best cave, life survival chances, and best genetics for her offspring is, billions of years of evolution don't care about modernity.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 01:31 PM
1

Even in the wild a female needs a male protectorate., i.e better.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 02:11 AM
-2

And you end up with a big nose ).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 12:54 AM
1

bartering whatever time of system, it is about the hierarchy of the male relative to female.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 09:56 PM
2

Perfect explanation, it is unnatural.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 07:14 PM
9

Based on what women say? And neither is your claim that women give good advice on LTR's, they'll just give you standard for settled for beta male advice, rather than being a cherished man.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 06:03 PM
10

And there in lies the bullshit, many even very middle class women go through a hoe phase.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 05:53 PM
-1

Women only respond based on their own personal experiences. Men stalking women in the supermarket before finally plucking up the courage to speak to a girl, when she clocked him 10 minutes ago, is very scary for a woman. Done correctly and made to look serendipitous, is both a pleasure for her and an art. There's the difference in just approaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 11:34 PM
2

Men will always find younger nubile women more attractive, nothing to do with fetishizing anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 11:29 PM
-1

That's just woke nutty feminist women, it's like people who go on climate protests, they don't even represent 1% of the population, but are highly concentrated and noisy, ignore the noise.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 11:26 PM
–

Too many sluts in the sea, until you're mid 30's.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 07:46 PM
1

Yeah it really was never your say so believe it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 09:25 PM
1

Men are programmed to spread seed when available. And you can lay off the guff about coercion and manipulation, or all women can get back in the kitchen if you have no agency.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 09:09 PM
1

Wierd, almost like looks really don't matter as much for men which is what proper pickup has always said, and good looking nice guys don't cut it. That's why sane people understand that men can only still be slut makers, good looking nice guys don't do that well, yet an ugly women with the biggest bitch personality could have 100 men around her house by the end of the day online clicking on Tinder. Common sense really. One takes skill, the other doesn't, hence why it's not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 09:00 PM
0

They wouldn't be high n if they weren't desirable, which is your ignorance. In modern culture outside of religion, low n men are men who just can't do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 08:44 PM
0

The urban dictionary isn't a dictionary believe it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 08:35 PM
0

Doesn't make sense then when it only applies to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 08:14 PM
0

Men can only be slut makers, read the dictionary sometime, only applies to women, it originates from the word slattern.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 07:43 PM
29

Men and women aren't equal and neither do women want to be equal.
/r/seduction17/11/21 05:23 PM
9

When you're sat on the bench just open your legs and point in-between them and wink. He'll get the message.
/r/seduction17/11/21 05:21 PM
1

It really isn't, because those guys feeding of scraps even in the most promiscuous environment, have just reduced those little scraps they were barley getting already. Besides as I say the reduction in sex is due to other variables, not red pill like Japan, because it drags a whole lot more men into being incels whether they are even aware its a thing or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 02:51 AM
1

Same reason as Japan, red pill awareness is like 2% of men and barely as statistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 12:51 AM
1

No, because they're competing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 12:29 AM
1

If it weren't true then women of high incomes would happily date down in income, which never happens but always can the other way around, average guys would get as much action as high value men, and things like pre selection wouldn't work. Men and women still value very different things from evolution. ​ Any man whos run game correctly and plows through a woman's shit test sees the difference once she sees you cant be broken, and the natural feminine frame she slips into and is a beautiful thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 12:18 AM
1

No modern women are weird, you seem to think that its some great revelation that men can only be slut makers because so many women provide such a good service. Men in the 17th century had to visit a bawdy house for such action, whilst the relative feminists of the time talked about how no women would ever provide such a service freely but for desperation, and how the men were taking advantage of women. Many very middle class girls provide as good a service as a bawdy house worker today.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 07:20 PM
1

For the vast majority of history virtue has always been a female responsibility. If I'm meeting a girl and she's going home with me in 20 minutes, she has chose to be a fuck hole. And i'm very chivalrous; I treat the scullery maid and daughters of my class, as equal fuck holes, if they are providing such a good service.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 07:07 PM
1

You can build yourself up a little, becoming a better person, by taking less pressured environments, that isn't just the goal of fucking. Simply chat with the cashier male or female, bring up a relevant topic to the situation, etc type scenarios and make it part of who you are.
/r/seduction11/11/21 11:04 PM
2

Culture has nothing to do with it, we've only been civilised human in the blink of an eye relative to the million of years as evolving animals. You're always still left with why the pretty girl working at secretary always has a chance with the a rich millionaire, but never the other way around
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 08:06 AM
2

Women are biologically driven to find men better than them, since if that were not the case, you'd find many more women quite happily dating men on lower incomes, or even effeminate men being viewed as attractive as masculine men, when in reality those guys are just getting divorced if it does ever happen. Modern day woke allows women to have settled for relationships with men they see as equal as the minimum standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 09:56 PM
1

You mean how not why? Doesn't your husband earn 10-15 times more than you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 12:53 AM
1

The lifestyle she grew up with or the lifestyle she could afford on her own? Pretty arbitrary determination if its the former.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 11:44 PM
1

Also to add to points I can't see. Trad women have a different character, and class, the way they dress, and obviously no slutting about.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 11:42 PM
-2

Men can only be slut or whore makers, maybe you should read the dictionary.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 07:34 AM
1

I'm always remembered as the neck kissing guy when I'm done.
/r/seduction08/11/21 11:06 PM
1

Promiscuity peaked out in 2008. The failed policies of tax spend socialism, no growth, kills mens rigour as per Japan which went down this route well before.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 12:39 AM
-1

Women still want men better than them, men who decide to raise the kids, whilst she works wives are being fucked up the ass by her boss at work. .
/r/seduction06/11/21 12:14 AM
1

Yeah if that were true I could walk up to women in the store and as her straight up wanna fuck, not happening, even if I can get her into an ONS, it has to be finessed, so lets not be naïve, it is still seduction. Aside from which, women categorised men; they will happily look for 'mr right' whilst simultaneously taking 'mr right now' when he isn't available., with further variance on that likely outcome depending on where she is on her cycle.
/r/seduction04/11/21 12:48 AM
1

That's the whole point as being seen as high value, a woman will offer it up early in the hope of securing you, but the value of pussy has been at rock bottom prices for at least the last 20 years lol.
/r/seduction04/11/21 12:35 AM
1

Plenty of women have rules about no ONS, or have a set number of dates in their head, so I'm calling BS on that claim, as well as other logistical problems for it not to happen same night. I'm always suspicious of guys who want to make a deal out of their numbers, its like a rich guy , who needs to go around claiming he's rich.
/r/seduction04/11/21 12:19 AM
1

Nope. I don't think it's morally right to think men shouldn't fight wars before women either.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 05:20 PM
1

It's not hypocritical to think men and women have different burdens or virtues to society.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 05:12 PM
88

Raped in the showers
/r/seduction02/11/21 11:33 AM
3

1 in 4 women are homeless lol, dont be ridiculous the streets would be flooded, I think you might mean homeowners? 5/6 women by the definition of far left feminists have been sexually assaulted more like, and way way more men actually kill themselves from suicide than trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 11:44 PM
1

Seen it, live it, do it. That's why men will always be cast in those roles like that, as it would be incongruent to make no sense otherwise. Shy introvert boys aren't getting pussy lining up, and will never be cast in those roles for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 12:35 PM
1

The original Bond is reality in what makes women swoon and always will, as is what is Don Draper, and always will, and plenty of men exist as a similar masculine frame getting the same attention from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 09:40 AM
1

you keep using the word 'court' it would be down to a jury, and I see no real cases that you described. Other than crazy women, the only time I see 'sluts regret' as I call it, is when its 2/3 guys tag teaming. And if its crazy women and shes filing a complaint she can do it with or without alcohol if its a same day lay.
/r/seduction01/11/21 12:11 AM
1

Not me, I'm estimating new lay percentages first time., otherwise I'd have said me. I also said 'under the influence' not 'drunk, a subtle difference.
/r/seduction31/10/21 09:17 PM
-4

Yeah informed consent is woke made up words, the same way no police force accepts you can claim 'uninformed consent' to driving a car under the influence of drink or drugs, and take the car to court. That's why unless she is literally unconscious jury's thrown them out unanimously and cases are only brought when in said unconscious state, being scooped off the floor. 95% of numbers taken instead those women aint calling you back.
/r/seduction31/10/21 09:12 PM
7

Mens attitude to pussy right there and then under the influence goes to zero standards.
/r/seduction31/10/21 09:08 PM
1

Absolute rubbish, in those rare circumstances they wont make court and jury's throw them out unanimously. Alcohol or not women can claim whatever behind closed doors.
/r/seduction31/10/21 09:04 PM
26

90% of lays come from under the influence.
/r/seduction31/10/21 09:02 PM
0

Don Draper mad men would get easy pussy in any era . And yes Bond has only been changed since they hired a woke manager to have the whole film tweaked, and there's plenty of people who have pointed this out, that they are ruining him. This is true now also in Superman and making him bisexual. But this is modern woke interference, not reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 08:30 PM
1

Where did I say it was? I said remote Scotland, obviously not meaning the cities. I've smashed twice tin Edinburgh on Hogmanay. I've covered more of Scotland working in commercial property that you will ever do, I'm talking Isle of Mull , John O'Groats, Dolegallu etc.
/r/seduction31/10/21 08:24 PM
1

Nobody mentioned anything about assholes, you've made that up in your head. Don D gets pussy throwing itself at him because he's masculine, and would do in any era, as has James Bond in every era.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 02:50 PM
0

Yeah that's why all film characters which women swoon over are always cast in that frame, entirely coincidental.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 01:02 PM
0

So exactly what I said, but that's not power, they aren't influencing anything as a nice arm piece, and it clearly is hypergamy, that is the definition. Back then more men were as you would describe as masculine men too, so they would have been naturally more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 08:08 PM
2

People can rank the fuck me down all they want, I do it, mostly in Manchester, pathetic excuses.
/r/seduction30/10/21 07:44 PM
0

Nope load of rubbish, every PUA who picks up women and teaches internationally says every man man in each country says the same. Unless you live in remote Wales or Scotland, no excuses.
/r/seduction30/10/21 02:51 PM
7

A 2/10 woman can have 100 guys fuck her ever day
/r/seduction30/10/21 02:12 PM
0

You mean money and status and the usual female hypergamy arguments since very few women at that time would have actually got any power from it. Even today its only very weak men like prince Harry who end up being used by a widow spider who will run him over, before her next divorce once she's finished with him. I think your point of reference is too soon, you need to go back earlier when it would have been considered slut behaviour for a woman to behave like that, and never the mans fault, It wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 10:27 PM
1

That's really not an important part of being masculine
/r/seduction29/10/21 09:46 AM
1

It's your overall presence as a man. I'm down to Bond mentality now I'm older, he doesn't laugh, you get a side smile at most, pay attention to voice tonality and body language. You should have the presence that she wouldn't dare try it, women are attracted to men they fear.
/r/seduction28/10/21 08:20 PM
1

Your frame isn't masculine enough, she knows she can get away with it, a confident puppy who's body can't write checks he's trying to cash. Toni Braxton ~"He wasn't man enough for me". Some guy is going to be fucking her in short
/r/seduction28/10/21 07:35 PM
1

Plough through if you just want to fuck.
/r/seduction28/10/21 07:26 PM
2

In bygone eras men worked the fields with their sons so it had dual purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 06:50 PM
3

Yet high status men like Don Draper had women throwing themselves over him, and he was fucking tonnes of women behind his wife's back
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 06:33 PM
2

I'm just telling you how men behave. And every man who knows good pickup knows that plain Jane's should be your number one priority if you're looking for a quick and easiest lay.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 05:07 PM
2

I'm just telling you how men behave. And every man who knows good pickup knows that plain Jane's should be your number one priority if you're looking for a quick and easiest lay.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 05:06 PM
-2

More like the men see themselves as significantly better than you, so could be an easy lay.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 07:32 PM
1

There's still far better like AMS
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 06:40 PM
1

Lol entrepreneurs in cars, is a car salesman driving around the cars they stock and dates single moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 06:14 PM
0

Game trumps going to the gym getting pussy by 95% as my estimate.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 05:30 PM
5

It's hardly rocket science looking at someone's body language or just seeing them stood at a bus stop, park bench to see that they're not busy. Just avoid moving targets like that, and there will never be an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 05:28 PM
2

Yes because that's an awful way to approach a woman, hell I'd feign that I was asking about bus routes or times and then move from there over that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 05:24 PM
1

You amp women up whilst appearing indifferent, and they will jump on you, never failed playing that push pull on the sofa, and she can say please to suck me off.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 05:20 PM
0

Or women won't just continually hookup with you forever with no commitment? Surely this is just obvious.
/r/seduction27/10/21 12:58 PM
3

Yep still happens but it's a price women decided to pay for accepting feminism and being sluts now. She will normally get half his income if married.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 09:03 PM
-1

Yeah cos most women will never see through fronted up bullshit you can't back, probably explains your need to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 07:27 PM
-2

Going up to a girl and straight up saying hi, asking her name displaying interest like that I'd expect that reply, I'll accept an acceptable reply when you've moved on from 15 year old boys approach game.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 07:01 PM
3

The entirety of the USA could be comfortably housed in Texas, the entire world could be housed in Texas at the same population density as New York if you really wanted to ramp it up fully packed, so it's all woke bollocks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 06:45 PM
2

Not the same since as a woman you can just ignore the men and walk on. Those hookers really pester you and chase you down a lot, it's nowhere near the same level. The average model in a big city yes gets up to 50 men making a pass at her every week, most women is once a week outside a night club, so it's well over exaggerated here. Most men aren't chasing 95% of women down constantly. Most women go into bed 2 dates and under for me , most women are sluts for the right man done correctly, and I c…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 06:35 PM
5

Its not the same as an earned seduction fuck. The same way women don't berate prostitutes since it's paid for but will shame sluts, who they're in competition with. Every man will happily live as a slutmaker but only him not everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 06:01 PM
2

Exactly, the best pickup is pickup that is not seen as pickup, it is serendipitous, and that is the art.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 05:32 PM
4

Hardly, we'd have our dick sucked by 10 different women a day if possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 05:30 PM
3

Takes far longer when you tally up all the messages deal with fatties and filters scams, going cold, won't put out in a couple of dates. You get a proper read much faster in field.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 05:28 PM
-2

As if any other meeting isn't based on your looks in stage 1 for a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 05:25 PM
-5

Nope shit test, you can plow through that easy, you have to stay in longer than that geez. Just mirror her and turn your body language away like she's losing you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 05:23 PM
2

No cos that's only with sluts. A woman witholding until marriage means a man has to pay a big investment upfront, it is sunk costs.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 05:19 PM
4

Obviously, men need to know their children are theirs, also points to her not necessarily being a good mother who would run if a better opportunity came along. Moreover it clearly takes skill to screw hundreds of women and more, a woman requires near nothing. 2 identical looking men who both wanted to be in the 100 plus club one with skill one without, only one would reach there, any ugly bitch could do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 02:47 PM
4

No attitudes are changing, it's billions of years of evolution for a reason. You can no more condition people to not eat food.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 08:05 AM
2

Economic fallacy there is no statistical finite pie of money people are fighting over, the economy and wages is not a zero sum game.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 10:56 PM
2

Same reason a woman having an affair even when providing regular sex to her husband has a much higher chance of conceiving with the affair.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 01:07 PM
2

Sluts is the answer. If you look at testosterone levels, men with higher T tend to be the most promiscuous, women show no variance with T levels for promiscuity, only social factors in upbringing determines female behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 11:37 AM
2

I believe this is why you're starting to see crazy cases where female teachers will fuck pupils, cucking their husband. They take it as a better high risk option, going for younger men with 'hidden potential' as being better for her possible offspring. Women instinctually need men that are better than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 03:40 PM
1

Not for fucking if she's in slut mode and do her good, they can see it as a big confidence boost.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 03:36 PM
0

Yes we are in agreement, I can easily spot them, and have a high n count, this is the point again, I don't buy that this high n count man wouldn't be able to spot it.
/r/seduction20/10/21 12:10 AM
1

Top poster already answered, don't and never ask when you're going to see them next. Women follow you, never the other way around. This frame is weak sauce.
/r/seduction19/10/21 06:45 PM
0

Obviously this is the point, all women are different and spotting patterns of play in their behaviour is pretty fundamental to game and your success, managing a narrasicstic woman is like understanding shit tests. And as if you'd put up with it, when you have an abundance mindset that she's easily replaceable in a 100 plus count, doesn't tally for me.
/r/seduction19/10/21 02:21 PM
-1

Women see through men's flaws and insecurities, and he's a deeply flawed man to let a woman exploit his emotional insecurities, neither of which is consistent with a high value player. Aside from which this is all just claims. as you said, you don't know this and never saw it, so anyone can claim what they want; that's his insecurity; never feeling he's good enough, so has to make up BS claims about women he never slept with and didn't happen.
/r/seduction19/10/21 12:27 AM
5

Quite amazing how a man can say so much and make so many claims, but offer so little.
/r/seduction19/10/21 12:18 AM
1

Its not possible to speak to that many women and run game to not spot patterns of play.
/r/seduction19/10/21 12:13 AM
-16

Sounds like horse shit to me. Any man who claims to have smashed plus 100 women and still doesn't know how to manage and spot patterns in female behaviour, and end up like that, yeah sure.
/r/seduction18/10/21 11:37 PM
26

Not relevant to smashing 100 plus women.
/r/seduction18/10/21 04:01 PM
0

Na rubbish, you need to keep a woman at 90% her thinking that you won't leave her. Anything else is settled for, and she's getting too comfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 02:45 PM
4

You can use dating apps as long as you have game and not using it as a way to avoid cold approach. I've had at least 20 women in bed first date 4 hrs and very much under that. I'm not throwing that away.
/r/seduction12/10/21 10:26 PM
2

At the moment that's the percentage, but will heavily increase the more it's pushed and accepted.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 10:34 PM
1

The points you make aren't relevant and won't happen. Court cases will become interesting when a man wants to claim he was tricked. And God knows how degenerate men's behaviour is going to increase when we see the percentages of trans people reach Thailand levels, which is inevitable once it's becomes increasingly accepted.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 10:29 PM
2

The whole point of game is that you are able to break the matrix.
/r/seduction09/10/21 05:52 PM
5

Yes but these incels only know OLD. Men with good cold approach game or have seen it know what you're saying is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 04:01 PM
2

Status which no men have here, so not useful.
/r/seduction09/10/21 03:59 PM
4

You cant compete with those men to any real extent, they're out from the ages of 18-40 x4 times a week at night average until late, and doing day game.
/r/seduction09/10/21 03:57 PM
1

I think those men paying for it are probably older men and severely obese type men only.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 12:42 AM
1

A woman is never more dtf slut behaviour than her last nights staying away. Message her to say that "you're meeting with some friends for a glass of wine" earlier in the evening because you have already made plans, and that you can grab a drink with her later, when you're done. ​ Its done that way because the wine part infers other women, and that you also have plans so she isn't a priority to you. ​ Some women just have rules about ONS, if you couldn't bang her first night.
/r/seduction09/10/21 12:29 AM
2

Can you rape an AI robot? #robotmetoo
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 03:59 PM
-5

No such thing as pump and dump in 99% of cases. Women are fair game if they open their legs to the special places at ease. I don't do love bombing, never complimented a woman (Because its bad game), its purely arbitrary if I did decide to do it, to suggest this somehow made a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 01:02 PM
2

You need to do both, because you'll never learn to manage your women properly and even possibly divorced if you get married. First and foremost she needs to see you as alpha, to get your dick sucked dry every night, reveling in it, and she looks up to you. All the money in the world will never get Bezos that, he is a seen as a meal ticket beta provider.
/r/seduction06/10/21 08:48 PM
2

As long as youre not making it socially awkward for her.
/r/seduction05/10/21 07:04 PM
1

As I always say, female preferences in order are; good guys- bad guys- nice guys last.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 05:42 PM
0

Plain Jane definitely dtf ons slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 04:32 PM
0

like that but the exact opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 10:06 PM
0

Fake bait and switch profile.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 05:41 PM
0

I'm assuming its because a lot of the Asian, middle eastern, and Indian groups don't classify themselves as incel; they are not 'involuntary'. They are not part of sex culture for the most part.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 01:41 AM
3

Nearly always the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 12:44 AM
1

The horseradish sauce was a nice touch.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 12:40 AM
2

There's only 1 guy on there that I cant see that hasn't been on the special sauce.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 08:23 PM
–

He sounds like a chipmunk on steroids, as well as being on the actual sauce. He's made a lot of money which makes him attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 11:28 AM
1

Yes because those mens options are so limited they have to, if I couldn't get my dick wet to save my life, and a single mother gave me a shot if probably think I was happy, but I'm not that weak, and they don't know any better.. It's not a point about people being useful, it's about men allocating significant resources to other men's children over their own as though men would sit around and watch women just being pumped by other men, and we all take turns.... Never happened. Consent and definin…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 08:13 PM
0

Only within their own tribe, since they needed warriors, certainly not the children of lands they conquered, who would be killed and buried in mass graves. Women who surrendered would be inseminated being useful of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 07:59 PM
1

That's their premise, I'm arguing it's both.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 07:52 PM
0

That's not entirely true since obviously women didn't mate with weak or inferior or deformed men, the biology of the man would clearly be important that she would want a strong biological line. There's no basis in biology that males would be happy to allocate resources to offspring that are not theirs. Going back to your previous arguments about uncles; they are hardly devoting vast resources by seeing those children on social occasions. In most western countries adoption is subsidised by state …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 07:49 PM
1

As above go find some nature documentaries, males will never looked to be cucked or find that acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 07:39 PM
0

Why are you quoting made up things I never said? It's women wanting to be ploughed by different men and promiscuity, if you want me to repeat it. Your logic is that the father and his brother would be both happy to take turns on you and you'll all live a some big happy family.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 07:20 PM
1

Yeah except that's never happened and never will happen men won't accept sharing of resources not knowing their children. It's a nice fantasy that you want to be a cum bucket, but that's all it is and has never happened before, hence unnatural.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 07:06 PM
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It's common sense that it has nothing to do with learnt behaviour. Males need to know they are only providing their resources to their child. It's why a lone female with cubs has them killed before he mates with her. That's what would happen in an uncivilised society, killing of bloodlines.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 07:01 PM
1

With different men pumping here every night and they were all happy with it? Lol baseless reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 06:59 PM
-1

No it isn't you can watch wildlife documentaries and see it in action and what happens when a female is found to be a slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 06:52 PM
0

Multiple partners obviously focus on high levels of promiscuity with no attachment to that male.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 06:47 PM
0

Promiscuity obviously. Only billions of years of evolution. Contraception is a man made concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 06:41 PM
-1

So instead of men telling you want to do, you swapped it for what other women (feminists) tell you what to do with casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 06:34 PM
0

It's obviously not your natural biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 06:33 PM
0

Rubbish females are ostracized in primates today when caught having sex outside the alpha male.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 06:28 PM
1

But that's always going to happen when she is not with her boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 02:04 PM
2

Why would you have such a odd attitude to other serendipitous encounters. If anything that screens out people with touched up photos and who don't even have the personality to match that online almost instantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 10:18 PM
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Wrong, if you're socially awkward then you aren't going to be getting laid are you when she meets. Probably one of the biggest disappointments for women is men who are trying to cash checks online their body can't cash when meeting.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 10:14 PM
0

Pretty self explanatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 08:51 PM
1

Maybe in your world, I'm the one ring or dick to rule them all, forged in mount doom.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 06:17 PM
0

Fake doctored image by incels
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 05:51 PM
1

Explained below
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 10:28 PM
2

That's why it needs to be a strong male household, otherwise you'll get all sorts of weak emotional female suggestions.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 10:08 PM
-3

No affection, that's for women, along with nappy changing. We're not raising camp homosexuals
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 09:56 PM
-1

I never said absent, just not lovey lovey kissy kissy. Men would certainly not play with kids rolling around on the floor, the boys would learn engineering from mechano or they'd work outdoors together, fishing etc, it would be a very father son relationship but not as 'best friends' which is how most are brought up today, it would be a clear father and son relationship in that traditional sense as a strong male figure. Obviously boys need a present father, the track record of single mothers is …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 09:41 PM
0

No its just not their nature. Men traditionally never did any of this bullshit, no going to the hospital when pregnant etc. It's entirely a post feminist conception.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 09:10 PM
1

Even that isn't true for most women who prefer alphas. Child nurture is a female responsibility alphas don't do kissy kissy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 09:02 PM
1

Yes but lizard brain, and the effects of feminism and women being sluts now.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 09:00 PM
1

Not applicable here. 36 witness statements, detectives flying to Israel, 15 men DNA tested.
/r/MensRights28/09/21 06:52 PM
1

I'm not so sure, Cyprus isn't as woke feminist like the UK, and they won't be prepared to throw their entire police force under the bus, for what was a very quick and thorough operation. It will entirely come down to a point of technicality and technicality only with the ECJ when she fails in this court, as to whether she waived her rights to a solicitor.
/r/MensRights28/09/21 06:49 PM
1

She had a minder the whole time.
/r/MensRights28/09/21 06:29 PM
1

No she wasn't under duress, she was later arrested, after the police became suspicious of her claims. 36 witnesses were interviewed detectives had to get permission to fly to Israel to interview people and collect DNA samples. Needless to say they were pissed off when none of it tallied up, and she had a minder the whole time. She eventually signed a statement admitting she lied due to the shame. It was only at this point the police decided to charge her which she never suspected, thinking she w…
/r/MensRights28/09/21 06:28 PM
1

The whole issue of height or being juiced up muscled only comes about from online dating, where women make decisions they wouldn't otherwise make. It distorts their normal decisions. Only slightly annoying in that I can't bed women on OLD, that I could otherwise on cold approach.
/r/seduction28/09/21 05:08 PM
6

Well obviously that's the paradox. Every man wants to be the sole slut maker but only by him not other men. Even friends with benefits she isn't allowed to be with other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 04:53 PM
1

It counts less than half of what it matters to men the other way around. Status and perceived value/ potential for us (since we aren't at his income level or fame) counts for waaaayyy more. Harvey W has a deformed dick and is ugly, and women far younger still came back to him time after time.
/r/seduction26/09/21 10:57 PM
1

You're using a man made logical argument, child support is not a natural concept and shouldn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 01:34 PM
1

You can't get in a car drunk and claim the car took advantage of you if that's where this is going.
/r/seduction24/09/21 10:39 PM
2

It makes zero difference if this is a question of consent in any scenario of either party being drunk or together
/r/seduction24/09/21 10:38 PM
1

Absolute rubbish literally never happens 3 months to see a girl for that is never worth any mans time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 09:04 PM
8

16 million men genetically related to Genghis Khan, I think I'll take that slut train mating strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 08:51 PM
1

No talking about flip flops is fluff talk. No I would have lost tonnes of women if I'd been an average Joe with no game.
/r/seduction24/09/21 07:52 PM
1

I never said 'necessary' I haven't always done it. But the best women that have even ridden me are when I'm in my best masculine frame and they see me as better than them significantly. It is what women refer to as men that they can 'lose themselves with', and she will be her best unrestricted hoe in pleasing you.
/r/seduction24/09/21 07:08 PM
2

Qualifying her is about her trying to justify herself to you and part of seduction, since you are the prize, even if you want to just fuck her.
/r/seduction24/09/21 02:00 PM
1

So is sex before marriage if you're getting godly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 07:41 PM
4

Yeah good luck with claiming what was agreed in the bedroom in he said she said court cases. Wont ever get there, since no jury will ever convict on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 07:40 PM
1

Woke identity politics BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 07:04 PM
4

Easy, you have to look at it from her point of view. Instinctually its still better for her and her offspring to be guarded by a mean mother fucker than a choir boy. Female preference hierarchy as always: Good guys> Bad guys> Nice guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 05:11 PM
0

Interesting information which has no value in an economy, you did right sticking with EE.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 07:59 PM
1

You should get critical thinking skills as minimum etc you mentioned, in any degree, the knowledge you get from a very large percentage, not all, liberal arts degrees still makes them worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 07:58 PM
2

I'd rather take a proper degree that won't load me with debt, and still meet those women personally., Which is what I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 07:52 PM
3

Not when you separate the data out, sure high end stem people will outperform, those who have zero education will nearly always be at the bottom. But I suspect those who did higher education and left versus those who went to do pointless liberal arts degrees including the debt they will accumulate are worse off.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 07:25 PM
6

There's a lot of horseshit liberal arts degrees, so not really in any meaningful type of education, a lot of the time, which women disproportionately sit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 07:03 PM
5

Please have you seen the underground world of gay men, you'd be having women ploughed by 10 guys at a time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 05:33 PM
1

I wouldn't advise being skinny, just being a bit above normal fit is adequate. Literally no women swoon around the training area at muscle beach, and those that do are only intrigued, because women respect men who are respected by other men, so its only in an ironic sense massively jacked guys are attractive to women, but it was not the defining reason why they were intrigued by them in the first place. Just keeping in a decent enough shape getting your test pumped up a bit is perfectly adequate…
/r/seduction20/09/21 09:53 PM
1

Won't make any difference, because most men don't have such easy access to pussy, even men who are in the the top 10% still need to put in effort in which is a drag, as such women who as seen as long term will be perused long term, but in the short term smash sluts until they're ready to settle with a long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 09:20 PM
11

Day game trumps all. There are tonnes of women who would never have swiped on me online in a million years that I've gamed cold approach.
/r/seduction17/09/21 08:23 PM
8

"How about you buy me a drink first, then you." It really depends on your social calibration in these situations, some girls are just pros at rinsing men like this all night, in which case use the line above , and it almost certainly won't work either. If they aren't professional attention seekers, and just being a bit cheeky, you can try a halfway house, and make her jump through a hoop first. Get one to do something like go a quick spin, taker her hand under your arm, and then chat to them for…
/r/seduction17/09/21 05:39 PM
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Just the sort of clueless answer I'd expect from an average Joe on the street, what is even the point of this sub.
/r/seduction16/09/21 12:52 AM
31

Shit test never justify or explain yourself to a woman. Tell her you haven't seen a woman naked for 6 years and youve been living like a nun. When she calls you out for bullshit then go in for the kiss, as she's thinking about sex now.
/r/seduction16/09/21 12:51 AM
1

On net balance I'm prepared to tolerate feminism, only because it's provided me with so many sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 04:44 PM
1

You can pay for dates, but certainly not with a woman like this, don't waste your time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 11:09 AM
2

Women have no slut shame today and aren't ostracized from society for their behaviour anymore, there are so much fewer social connections to enforce it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 05:44 PM
2

Woke politicially correct man, just what women go for.
/r/seduction13/09/21 08:53 PM
1

Horseshit, I've walked out of a bar in 10 minutes escalating with her sex talk.
/r/seduction13/09/21 04:07 PM
1

The vast majority of the best original non fake videos were pulled down on you tube years ago, thanks to far left feminism putting pressure on them. There used to be a great video of mystery ploughing through shit test with a very aggressive woman
/r/seduction13/09/21 04:03 PM
2

Not interested but still went with him to another bar= horseshit, shit test. Walking up to women in bars and asking them straight up "wanna fuck" which I did once for an entire night straight sober just so I could get totally shut down and drinks thrown at me, and mentally totally solid gets drinks thrown at you only.
/r/seduction13/09/21 12:20 PM
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Women and average guys offering junk advice rank down. Peddling nicey nice that you'd expect from average frustrated Joe, that won't get you anywhere gets you points here, it should be called the anti seduction forum.
/r/seduction12/09/21 11:10 PM
-1

You need to think of a man with a masculine dominant frame like James Bond, not the average chumps you're used to dealing with. Thanks for pointing this out for clarification because it's quite critical, and a line I successfully took twice when in a similar scenario, straight from bar to home.
/r/seduction12/09/21 08:58 PM
1

Ah right so a shit test like I said. Your reasoning is arbitrary. It is NOT rejection until she has gone.
/r/seduction12/09/21 05:48 PM
1

You could do if you started trying to justify it and start trying to logically tell her why she should. Same principle as me just accepting her 'not my type' You just told us that what women say they mean, make your mind up Joe.
/r/seduction12/09/21 05:38 PM
2

Same reason my success rate with women who tell me "we are not having sex'" come back to mine and I fuck 100% of the time, with her jumping on me.
/r/seduction12/09/21 05:28 PM
-3

Moving to chat up your wing is equally a shit test.
/r/seduction12/09/21 03:56 PM
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Shit tests categorically exist, there isn't a person with credibility who doesn't define them. If you have no interest in seduction don't waste your time being an average frustrated who just comes on here to rant. He didn't follow it up because he didn't escalate, he limped through for a bit making chit chat going nowhere, because as he said it 'hit him like a mule'. Women are a billion times more emotionally sensitive than men and she will pick up on his downbeat after voice, when he should hav…
/r/seduction12/09/21 03:29 PM
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Nope. Women don't know what they want, and they certainly don't go around randomly telling men 'you're not my type'. Only when sexually interested, and her auto reflex shit test has kicked in.
/r/seduction12/09/21 03:15 PM
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Shit test, you just need to put up anything, be non reactionary and never justifying yourself. Even just looking her in the eye saying "yep" then carrying on will suffice. The whole point of shit tests is to test your character and to knock you off centre, and judging by your response it affected you too much despite your limping on. If she is still there talking to you...continue. Its a good sign because it means she has mentally started to think about fucking you, so you should be looking to e…
/r/seduction12/09/21 02:32 PM
6

The decline in sex is entirely on the males side, emasculated men as per Japans decline, now in the west, the world's still your oyster in principle for slut fests.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 06:22 PM
1

There's always plausible deniability to an extent, your rejection rate will be significant if you state that your intention was to get her knickers off at some point in a further interaction after getting her number.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 12:25 AM
1

Yeah I also I had every woman who told me that we are 'not just having sex' when walking back to hers end up jump on me too when at hers. Wrong end of the stick dear.
/r/seduction07/09/21 02:34 AM
1

I said keep yourself in reasonable shape, and I'm saying this as a guy at 5'6 206lbs heavy lifter what the difference is, having done both; fuck all difference (outside OLD).
/r/seduction07/09/21 02:14 AM
-1

You'll get a magnitude more women allocating your time to cold approach, than allocating it to the gym and just staying in reasonable shape. Your attractiveness only increased because you're feeling better about yourself and getting a bit of a test boost. Number of women who hang around muscle beach= near zero.
/r/seduction07/09/21 01:46 AM
1

He needs banning because its clearly an ongoing issue for him which he can't resolve, and has no interest in the purposes of the group.
/r/seduction07/09/21 01:21 AM
1

Yep that's data from dating apps, and we've been over it a billion times. Women make decisions they wouldn't normally make in the wild, compared to using dating apps because they have nothing else to go off, it skews their normal behaviour.
/r/seduction07/09/21 01:19 AM
1

I'm 5'6 never an issue for me, dated a lot of women taller than me, when I'm in my element. I wear an insole inside a boot shoe out gaming. You need to leave the forum because you clearly have no interest in game or seduction.
/r/seduction07/09/21 01:16 AM
1

Same with my experience of women and no hookups.
/r/seduction07/09/21 01:07 AM
-2

You're validating her by having sex with her, its a question of limiting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 08:16 PM
3

Low risk high reward from an animalistic point of view. State interference is an unnatural interference, which has no effect the lizard brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 08:19 PM
1

As I said read John Adams... fact. They either have no effect or increase deaths in any places where studied.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 03:29 PM
1

No it was a clever system to stop rogue states, as if the founders had any idea which way things would break today .
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 01:55 AM
1

Seat belt laws (Not to be conflated with seat belts themselves, just the law requirement to always use one whilst driving) killed more people actually, Google John Adams and risk compensation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 01:50 AM
1

Mostly on account they swim in the same water with the same fitness model girls, the same way people have relationships through work and hobbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 01:47 AM
-2

Its when the women sees the man as equal/ beta provider primarily, he wont feel the love, and she cant have the respect at equality levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 01:32 AM
1

Disagree, its because the women see their men as betas and never feel the love.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 01:29 AM
2

Women don't think like this is the short answer, outside of Tinder at least since this clouds her normal decisions. Take a scrawny kid rub a bit of gel through his hair put him in a manufactured boy band, and wazzam knickers coming off for free. Number of women who hang around muscle beach looking at jacked dudes- literally none, except those women brought along by guys as girlfriends boosting the jacked guys appeal, only on account women respect men who are respected by other men ironically.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 08:32 PM
1

Your post are incongruent, you had oral from another girl that you brought back another time why is this an issue for you to do sometimes not other times?
/r/seduction31/08/21 08:55 PM
1

Since your game seems fine, since you got oral the one time, your escalation is just fine. I'm prepared to say it was just bad luck, it just wasn't in their rules, normally they need a full validation lay. And a kiss or oral max was validation enough for them. My hit ratio is 100% lays for broken up women, they are the best.
/r/seduction31/08/21 08:49 PM
1

Disagree, if you're spending money upfront heavily on a girl then she's going to see you as beta, never a good strategy, she needs to see you as alpha first and foremost before you can have provider obligation AFTER. Your game is out of wack if you ever get called creepy. You'll do better on dates asking questions, and letting the woman speak 85% plus of the time than talking.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 01:42 PM
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You only date beta men, so obviously this must be a realm outside that you never had a chance with. Getting more sex with more women is a bi product of what you were doing focusing on your purpose. Its just obvious that Hollywood stars have a conveyor belt of women throwing themselves at them, and by logical deviation you are the best within your own habitat, and you are therefore relatively as successful. Over time PUA has evolved where more men coach what is 'inner game' which is about self pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 01:34 PM
5

Disagree, you can be all those 3, you 'nice guys' confuse going through and failing women's shit tests as 'respectful'. And being humble certainly is a good trait, a rich man should never brag he's rich for instance, she can just see it for instance, banging on about it makes you a prick.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 12:45 PM
6

Or we should play feminists at their own game and call it womansplaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 12:43 PM
2

Woke horseshit, since applying that logic backwards I would also be a fatist and an uglyist, ageist, and disablist; since I don't bed ugly, old, disabled or fat women, all arbitrary hierarchy of identity politics. I certainly hope you don't discriminate against 90 year old disabled men when selecting a partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 11:19 AM
6

Someone asked me about openers. They're a waist of time, its a crutch to get you going, you need to develop your own personality, and don't get me started on guys who only use direct openers, Learning to riff off the cuff has many other valuable applications furthering you in life.
/r/seduction27/08/21 08:08 PM
1

Disagree, many both alpha income and alpha personality types like sports stars are fucking women behind their wives back, and those wives know and suck it up as long as it's understood she will always wear the queen's crown, usually he gets a free pass the first time it hits the press by announcing that he'll be doing some sex therapy class so she can save face. But after that it need to stay out of the press.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 10:48 PM
1

You can't be masculine and have feminine sides, you just are or aren't, and that has no effect having male friends. Guys like a man's man, straight guys don't hang around with effeminate men the vast majority of the time either.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 10:18 PM
0

Just don't be obese, stay reasonably fit at least. Being jacked is highly overrated which came about from online dating, where women make choices they otherwise wouldnt make. Literally no women hang around muscle beach to watch guys flexing, unless their boyfriend dragged them there to watch.
/r/seduction26/08/21 06:03 PM
0

Not the point, cheat or no cheat. It's a simple point about him being hyper alpha in business and mega beta in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 05:57 PM
2

Your woman loves you based on who you are and being better than her, you do fuck all other than just being a proper man which you should have been doing anyway. That's why nice guys are friend zoned and masculine men aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 03:49 PM
0

Nope you keep them permanently smitten to the point where she gets butterflies thinking about you and coming home. You need to better than your woman to not be settled for as a minimum.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 03:35 PM
0

Agree in the vast majority of cases, that's there only if you messed up somewhere and you let her get too comfortable. Women shit test all the time, very easy to slip one too many times and have to press the reset button. It's there so she can fall back into her natural subservient feminine frame.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 01:51 PM
-5

Nope because you weren't alpha enough for her in the first place. HVM will always be cherished.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 01:33 PM
-3

Any woman that doesn't feel dread game is a ruined slut, her natural biology is broken... Assuming he has all his ducks lined up; has a good purpose in life and maintains an alpha frame. Otherwise he was beta and he was always settled for. Jeff Bezos may be mega loaded but he is beta as fuck in the relationship. I've only seen men get screwed over on relationships where they have the same profile.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 01:05 PM
2

Yeah but we don't live in the third world, the women here get to go to tea mornings yoga classes all that jazz, even a cleaner.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 01:03 PM
4

You condition yourself to have zero approach anxiety with enough practice, and you get good at neutral lines. Don't do quiet venues like a book store first, that's not a good training ground, even a store with light music takes the edge off. Like "This is my favourite" when looking at a book, then just slightly look in her direction and put the book back, neither are you stood facing her, you are to the side of her facing the shelf like her. I love just how stupidly open ended questions like tha…
/r/seduction24/08/21 08:19 PM
-6

You're a man not your job. First rule of hostage negotiations..You do not negotiate with terrorists.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 11:21 PM
21

Same way all women will say that ugly babies are cute and do fake gushing, same way they always tell each other and other women how great they look.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 10:17 PM
1

That's because most men are beta by definition, she won't allow your resources to be shared, because you dont have that value. Number of rockstars that had gangbangs with women= 100%
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 12:10 PM
8

General hierarchy of female preferences: First: Good guy- James Bond Bad guys- James Bond villain Last: Nice guys- Choir boy Perfectly logical, you have to think who is going to defend her to the death and protect her and her offspring. You don't need to be the villain. Its just that nice guys are maybe around 90% of guys. No, you don't need to wear a tuxedo to go shopping, or have a license to kill, its your persona within your relative habitat.
/r/seduction20/08/21 03:47 PM
5

Ive never been on a date where I didn't bed in 3 dates if she got a second ,it was just a formality, you should be working on a 3 date max rule.
/r/seduction20/08/21 11:51 AM
1

Mistake is you don't tell women your intentions, if it comes up the best line to use is "I just like to take my time with a woman' its left deliberately ambiguous to create an air of mystery. If you are only interested in casual you work on a 3 date rules, if legs aren't open by then you walk away, if they are, that's on her... the end. Besides all this, you never take the rubbish that women claim they want with any seriousness.. ever.
/r/seduction20/08/21 11:47 AM
2

Yeah he's like a college professor teaching business, but would be totally useless in the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 06:06 PM
2

Weird, it's almost like men and women are different. Besides this argument has been done to death, women who would open their legs in a moment if their teen heartthrob arrived at the front door, but poor nice guy boyfriend will be wine ing and dining her for weeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 06:03 PM
1

I pretty much agree with everything I've seen about him, but he's a boffin type, like a college professor who would actually be useless in the workplace and wouldn't be able to do it, maybe he's reflecting on his own experience. I consider myself average facially, as with another good friend, but we have ploughed through women because our cold game is solid, and using OLD only as a bonus now and again.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 05:59 PM
1

That's really just a values issues from the people likely to have children and get welfare.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 05:01 PM
6

They wont submit to a bum or even a man they see as even close to equal, which is the vast majority of settled for men they are with today. She needs to see you as a HVM, and see you as better than her to be cherished.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 04:55 PM
6

Some would argue that all women can become more feminine submissive, you're just not man enough for that woman if it can't be done.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 04:04 PM
2

Clearly some people deal with things better than others. Its better to be able to deal with things. The idea of a man crying and getting emotional in the 30's would have been ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 11:25 PM
2

Its also highly attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 11:23 PM
-1

A woman calling you short, and you not being able to deal with that shit test wouldn't have mattered. If you cant deal with shit tests in general, being taller it would have just been something else you'd have failed at.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 11:20 PM
3

I like this argument in principle, but that was hardly going on in even the 60's, and we had plenty of stability.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 09:58 PM
2

Hypothetical claim, no evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 09:56 PM
2

Nobody empirically knows. I'd like to see results in Africa men which have less liberalist socialist feminism. T declines in western counties would tally from about the 30's in western countries when that began. When there's links to show that high testosterone men are more successful in business, it turns out it's just that low T men, once successful, start getting high T. Also tallies with higher suicide rates in men for me most likely. In short; liberalism feminism socialism which have all in…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 09:55 PM
1

Just think James Bond and there you have it, every man wants to be him every woman wants to be with him. In terms of carrying yourself. You don't need to go shopping in a tuxedo or have a license to kill.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 07:44 PM
1

Body language and voice tonality rookie. That's like saying you should take women's words as given and not understanding shit tests, and not knowing it is one.
/r/seduction14/08/21 10:20 AM
2

The women I know who are in the worst mental state crazy chicks are girls who did heavy partying and drugs in teens. Mental phyco women by 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 09:30 PM
1

The vast majority of couples are settled they don't know any different.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 09:26 PM
10

And ' no fuck boys' lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 05:51 PM
-1

No his game isn't developed enough to notice that, plough through it and make you comfortable to give it up.
/r/seduction10/08/21 05:06 PM
1

Soy boys aren't getting regular multi pussy, in your dreams. Any 'advice' you've given is what I'd expect average Joe to give, hence average, and anyone who suggests opinions from what women tell his has the least credibility of anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 01:24 PM
2

Masculine framed men will always be universally attractive. Soy men...never.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 11:33 PM
3

You have the profile picture of vegetarian soy man, so yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 11:17 PM
3

Settled for men not masculine men. We don't take advice from a fish how to fish
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 11:13 PM
3

Women only get ultra insisitive when the date is dead and she wasn't going to see you again anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 10:56 PM
0

Because our brains haven't evolved from billions of years, it's not an etiquette thing, it's a evolutionary thing. Men and women are more than just pbysical flesh and blood different.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 10:42 PM
1

You're so far out if you think this is workable. FWB is only possible after being in a relationship, and even after putting her in FWB I certainly wouldn't be announcing it or even mention it. It's never a long term position either, cos most women won't put up with it long term.
/r/seduction09/08/21 09:28 PM
5

Shit test. And a good shit test, because that means she's thinking about fucking, so you can escalate (If its before sex). I'd be looking to drop my voice tone, and move into a subtle slower sexier voice, and be moving in for a kiss in most scenarios where this is going to come up pre sex.
/r/seduction08/08/21 04:51 PM
1

There's a clear difference between molesting an infant which is just sick and not even close to this topic, and boys who are already kissing and interested in girls and probably already have girlfriends fucking an older woman and just adding it to his trophy cabinet. usually these boys and teacher episodes he's like 15, outside the US the age of consent is usually 16. In all the teacher pupil cases I see in the UK that's usually his age 15.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 02:56 AM
-1

Whether you got lucky because of her emotional state, or which part of her cycle she was on, she saw you as alpha in that moment, and you don't message back early for that reason.
/r/seduction08/08/21 01:48 AM
0

Because it only has positive consequences for the male, but modern day wok... meh, you get a load of people telling him he's a victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 01:40 AM
7

They're just after a validation dick usually, can't do much about it. The earliest you should message them back is a week later if there's any chance, and trying to withhold it won't make a difference, because she's not after that.
/r/seduction07/08/21 11:33 PM
2

There's a reason why some men always get "you're a nice guy, we could be friends" after a date, and some men never get it, and smash her same date.
/r/seduction07/08/21 06:20 PM
-4

Even better if you'd have said "I could do with another cup of coffee". If she sees you as high value, a woman will slip into her natural feminine subservient frame and make it for you. Still off for me. Gaming women and having the balls to do it, is only part 1 of 2, managing them and yourself in a relationship is part 2.
/r/seduction07/08/21 06:18 PM
-2

It stays in the body for 5 days, and you can always tell when you've been around enough, the moisture is slightly different, and extra vagina looseness which wont be there when you go for a second time, damn hoes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 10:32 PM
1

Always be mysterious, you just have to remain masculine and keep escalating things reading her body language, and the kickers will come off. The most direct game going up to women and directly asking to fuck then at the most extreme as an example will hardly ever work.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 12:31 AM
2

Its a metaphor for masculine energy, rather than the asexual energy you gave, not to be taken literally.
/r/seduction05/08/21 01:23 PM
1

Some women just have rules they stick by as hard as that is to believe, if that's okay for you fine, but never bring up you being pushy and making it awkward by bringing that conversation up.
/r/seduction04/08/21 09:44 PM
1

You didn't have the big dick energy she needed.
/r/seduction04/08/21 08:08 PM
1

But she carried on texting after the date for 2 months... No. Lack of esculation killed it and he wasn't man enough.
/r/seduction04/08/21 08:07 PM
1

The 2 months no contact killed it. Nothing worse than a woman calling you nice, there was no sexual escalation.
/r/seduction04/08/21 08:05 PM
1

Doesn't work, I went on a date with a girl who had been over to work and live in Italy for a year. She gave me examples of the way over the top romantic gestures with the way they try to woo women, which I thought was just sterotypical Italian men and didn't really happen but it's the way they behave, where they hold the woman's hand tell her how beautiful she is etc, and she couldn't stand it. I took her out for 4 drinks and smashed her.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 07:30 PM
31

Women can't knowingly accept being sluts, it has to be veiled.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 11:11 PM
2

Nope there's good guys best bad guys second and nice guys last in that order, not complicated. You can still be a 'good guy' like James Bond who's a lothario.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 10:04 PM
1

Well it must be a fuck lot of women given the billion they handed over to watch and read 50 shades. And gang bangs, violent, rough sex etc are still very heavily skewed as a percentage watched by women on Phub when they last checked the data.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 07:46 PM
1

'nice men' aren't 'nice', its covertly trying to get into a woman's knickers, and if it did work, they would be smashing it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 07:40 PM
2

Easy don't play that game, cold approach cannot be beaten, infact since nobody does it, you're probably in the top 10% if men of you get even half decent at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 03:29 PM
3

Clearly gay men are more promiscuous and likely to have symptoms, not even turbo sluts can compete with gay men
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 03:24 PM
0

I'd like to know what it is discounting gay men, that would skew the data.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 01:00 PM
3

Ive never had that conversation, women aren't dumb they know the score and will just walk away, and you just let them.
/r/seduction03/08/21 12:58 PM
1

Hot women never have a problem finding dates, you aren't a hvw.
/r/seduction02/08/21 05:28 PM
4

masculinity is 100% the way to get laid consistently, there's a reason why a character like James Bond only works as a serial womaniser, has done still does and always will do, and it can only be a successful movie character because it is accurate and has to be otherwise it would be incongruent and wouldn't work. Men want to be him, women want to be with him, always will do. Our brains have not suddenly changed from billions of years of evolution that has been overwritten by social constructs.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 05:35 PM
1

All solid advice.
/r/seduction31/07/21 12:05 PM
5

Yep ,but as long a you're alpha you're always going to get pussy easily at the right moment, which is maximising male desires/ potential. Betas can wine and dine her later for months.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 11:58 PM
3

Fish versus fishermen, Women have been shown to find different mates attractive dependent on which part of her cycle she's at, that's why we don't take you seriously, nature deliberately chose to create a bit of chaos for genetic variation, you aren't capable of coherent logical male logic for these circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 11:48 PM
6

If you're opening your legs in 3 dates and under its fair game, and that's an obscenely low amount of time, most of the time you can do it in a 4hr date. Virtue is a female responsibility, and if you practice it, it wont be a problem for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 11:13 PM
1

Doesn't matter what you advocate I'd estimate over 95% of men are in the dark of knowing what 'settled for' even means they wouldn't know. She has to see you as alpha first and foremost, for you not to be seen as 'settled for', and by definition that is a minority of men, unless you can learn to glitch the matrix as I call it, and change your ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 04:51 PM
0

That's not how masculinity works, that's douche Chad behaviour. Think classic male role models like James Bond, since Daniel Craig is mentioned here, and that is perfection for the vast majority of women.
/r/seduction26/07/21 10:52 PM
0

That's not how masculinity works, that's douche Chad behaviour. Think classic male role models like James Bond, and that is perfection to me.
/r/seduction26/07/21 10:47 PM
1

You don't have to be mega jacked like you say, rarely do I see mega beast guys with 9's or 10's on their arm. The theory is juiced guys are seen as somehow deformed because it's so unnatural, so they're spooked instinctually for breeding with them.
/r/seduction26/07/21 10:22 PM
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Women have reaped what they have sown, men brought up in a feminized world
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 08:27 PM
1

I'm a prime Anne Hathaway type of guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 07:29 PM
3

Asking the opinion of a woman is like asking a fish how to be a fisherman, no matter how accustomed you are to running your mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 07:13 PM
1

You aren't even remotely hot a 4 max in your prime, a 3 now, and who the fuck is asking women out infront of others, you don't put that social pressure on women
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 07:07 PM
1

Wrong, it's because you're in competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 06:41 PM
1

Yep but also waisting my damn time when it's mostly for OLD.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 06:29 PM
0

Fuckzoning only applies to women who open their legs too easily, otherwise it would never be worth men's time. Friendzoning applies to particular men who get it all the time, versus men who can regularly lay the same type of woman in under 3 dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 09:03 PM
-9

For ONS seduction, getting them back the next week is low odds,she usually just needed a validation lay, no matter what you did with her.
/r/seduction25/07/21 12:23 AM
2

It's quite simple, you never even discuss what you want, if it does, you just tell her you 'like to take your time with a woman', and move on, it is deliberately obscure and also adds to the air of mystery, and just live on a 3 date rule, problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 08:29 PM
0

Nope feminism and sluts broke the system for it to exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 08:27 PM
1

Feminism and living in a modern unconnected world is the only reason modern women have been able to love as sluts in the modern day.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 08:26 PM
2

That's because most casual encounters involve alcohol or it's a quicky affair in the back of a car.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 08:23 PM
0

Freindzone nice guys
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 08:20 PM
3

Yeah online.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 06:47 PM
2

No sex: Disabled and 1-3 Only sex: 4-5's Commit: Fun girls Marry: Slim, Trad Catholic lite girl type Kill: Megan Markle
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 06:37 PM
0

Most men in relationships couldn't care less and you shouldn't bother, if you want to hoe about, then maybe consider it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 06:30 PM
1

Indian men are forward? not from what I've ever seen. Italian men are certainly, but their game sucks a lot of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 06:25 PM
3

Its to do with soci economic life expectations, middle class boys stuck in dead end jobs not going anywhere, loose their rigour, no self confidence lack of rigour, same as Japanese men now.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 06:21 PM
1

Women shame each other more than men, vicious gossiping and rumours is how women work when it comes to the dark arts, men settle their differences in the car park. Men don't go around approaching other men just trying to be friends, it just arises Most women in relationships don't like their male partner hanging around with other women. I don't see hot women looking to befriend or wanting to hang around with ugly dudes, unless he's fucking loaded/ has status.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 03:20 PM
12

Hardly, most men who get a sniff are thirsty as fuck. Men who are not always available have better things to be doing on their 'purpose', and are infinitely more attractive.
/r/seduction21/07/21 09:27 PM
-9

Women complimenting each other is even less sincere than men, it's entirely there to feign that you're competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 10:53 PM
12

There's loads of cases of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 10:46 PM
1

More approach more approach and more approach. Assuming you have your life and shit together where you need to go, as well. You'll just grow into it until you get comfortable
/r/seduction18/07/21 04:57 PM
1

Dumpster diving, yum yum.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 04:51 PM
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Men very rarely ghost if they've being seeing a woman for several months and then bedded. Anything under that isn't 'ghosting', it's a casual fling. Ghosting is literally a non existent thing that that has far more time dedicated to it than actually exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 03:19 PM
0

You become confident as fuck and develop leadership traits if you're evolving and becoming more masculine. It is well worth doing pua as part of personal development.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 02:46 PM
4

If you've got money/ status no problemo, average Joe's like himself, nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 02:26 PM
1

Then he isn't average. I'm 5'6 without heels, take reasonable care of myself and did the same. If he has decent enough game then he's above average. People here are obsessed with height and looks for men, which aren't nearly as important as they think, because all they know is Tinder, which skews their understanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 02:15 PM
2

Not the same, cos you don't get any skills from that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 02:12 PM
3

Not a troll, just delusional and usual male exaggeration of conquests.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 02:08 PM
1

Baby delivered pussy from another man equals trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 02:07 PM
0

No hvm puts it in a trash bag thats had children from another relationship, and she knows how limited her market is now, glad we got to the bottom of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 12:06 AM
5

Yeah and let's minus ruined single mothers from that figure, so only 15% max acceptable, and then minus the plain ugly/ fat. Not so many. Sounds like fantasy from your posts, and dating women to converting to fucking are entirely different. The vast majority of single women at that point are either a bit crazy or highly professional women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 11:39 PM
5

Can't see how you get a woman who initiates sex and appreciates masculinity if you're splitting 50/50, you'll get some brief honeymoon period at best then to meh.settled for. It's illogical beyond that, and won't last, and there's no way at 53 you can replace pussy at that rate if you have to split.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 10:46 PM
8

Maybe that's why they always left you? It's a settled for relationship and she sees you as beta if she can't be feminine and won't take care of herself, she has no real respect for you. The 50/50 part I agree on, you can't expect that, its incompatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 10:30 PM
-2

You can change words all you want, even if no such phrases existed, men and women will only be at peak attraction under the same rules and expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 10:23 PM
0

Doesn't matter, billions of years of evolution cannot be undone by man made concepts. The laws of attraction cannot be broken mentally.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 10:16 PM
3

Women either have agency or its back in the kitchen, take your pick. Not as though it's usually just the once either, and it would be the men being 'used as a dildo' in your language.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 09:43 PM
0

FWB's only happen after LTRs. You can give a girl the best smashing of her life, on an only sex basis probably 3 times at best before she gives up, she'll be expected to be taken out if you want to put her in a rotation with other girls.
/r/seduction16/07/21 08:27 PM
1

It's quite straight forward, every man wants to be king pussy slayer, women queuing outside the door, but not other men. Virtue is a female responsibility at the end of the day, and only men can be slit makers no matter what you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 11:16 PM
-11

The 'sharing things in common' is just filler. I couldn't think of anything worse than a female that likes masculine type activities that I like. I only relationship trad feminine women.
/r/seduction14/07/21 11:06 PM
1

Men with perceived 'hidden potential' that they judge from body language, voice tonality.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 10:40 PM
-3

Cos I only ever used it once. Game is a fluid situation, tailored to the environment, and what comes to mind. I never opened two girls the same, ever. Clearly inappropriate at a bus stop type scenario.
/r/seduction13/07/21 02:44 PM
0

Lol without her permission lol. Yes that's definitely smooth guide 101, 'I'd like to hold hands please' said no real seducer...ever.
/r/seduction13/07/21 02:42 PM
2

Excluding knowing when its a shit test.
/r/seduction13/07/21 02:41 PM
-5

Load of rubbish, I've plowed through shit tests to bed women, there used to be a good video of mystery on You Tube doing it, a brilliant example of an initially savage encounter. I've opened and bed women facing a busy loud bar, doing a fake wolf whistle followed by "my my lady in red" I am confident as fuck about it and make straight eye contact once she turn around, how's that going to work out reading body language exactly?
/r/seduction13/07/21 02:24 PM
-7

For the moment....until feminists get their way.
/r/seduction13/07/21 02:19 PM
-20

Don't please call women 'cute' , don't validate women.
/r/seduction13/07/21 02:18 PM
45

The art of good pickup is that its not ever seen as pickup, and it was a serendipitous chance encounter, (In her mind). I'm going to make that my mantra. Women who talk about cringe attempts are from wierdo inexperienced men who approach women like a tiger from the bushes, that's what they're reflecting on. Obviously this is double edged advice, because to become a master, one must first be a fool and be wierdo guy first, but as long as you learn the errors of your ways each time.
/r/seduction13/07/21 02:16 PM
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Yes, but that's not going to happen. You only need to look at what Bezos has trade his wife in for, that guy is going to bleed dry, when his new gold digger cashes in, so it makes no difference how much money and power you give them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 02:10 PM
0

More abortions is better, fascinating. As for fake rape cases, we already have enough of that bs.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 10:51 PM
5

50% of women on Tinder will put out first date
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 07:45 PM
1

Like I said regarding quiet desperation, if they had any experience above quiet desperation, they'd be better judges of character to know a)woman and b) how to manage them, same analysis.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 01:56 PM
0

I rarely use OLD, I'm 5'6 and have dated women 6'0 and just under, and have a 3 date rule. You don't know anything. Once you don't give a fuck. get some game and get into the matrix you'll see. Yes they want only top tier men, if they could, but it is masculinity they crave most by far far and away not looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 11:14 PM
3

A post only relevant to incels who cant speak to women think Tinder is their only option, and think women are as much looks judgemental as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 10:06 PM
1

Different women no problem. Same as rats put in a cage, the urge never comes for the same female since there's no biological need.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 06:24 PM
2

You'd take 20 loads a day? I think not.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 05:51 PM
0

That's a big misinterpretation, just think classical male icons like James Bond, and understand shit tests.
/r/seduction11/07/21 05:11 PM
1

Disagree, hence divorce rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 05:04 PM
1

They aren't prudes, they just cant get pussy very well, every man would live like Genghis Khan, if he could smashing 20 women a day, and that's because a man can get horny for different women like that, not the same woman..
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 05:03 PM
2

Doesn't matter if she's 11/10.
/r/seduction10/07/21 08:00 PM
2

Even this whole 'sales pitch' attitude is wrong. The best dates I went on where the girl was all over me was when I didn't even want to go on the date, I considered it a waste of my time
/r/seduction10/07/21 07:21 PM
47

Yes, but most men live a life of quiet desperation so they have no concept of 'fulfillment'. Even a nagging woman who puts out now and again is more 'fulfilling' than nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 06:44 PM
6

Yes basic rule is unless she's smitten with you and always doing her best to keep you happy, then she sees you as beta, and you'll never feel truly loved, and will always feel settled for, but that's entirely down to you remaining in a masculine frame. I don't buy into 'sexual compatibility' so much, if its on the mans half then he's having to put up with the best he can find and doesn't find her that physically attractive, and on the woman's half its because she has no real respect for you, abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 06:43 PM
2

Work on yourself harder, you should have actual purpose that you are going somewhere and doing something, and not just another drone chump running on a hamster wheel.
/r/seduction09/07/21 11:49 PM
0

All wrong its Category E and can be applicable to pretty much all women. Over time women withholding sex is because she's become disgusted with you, and sees it as a chore. Some will argue that even the most masculine women can be tamed and you just aren't man enough for those women that you personally can't. If she sees you as alpha enough, she will always want to initiate sex and make sure you are always satisfied, which can only decline if you become weak, it is entirely about how she sees yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 09:31 PM
5

Tried and tested, nice guys mostly get friend zoned and always will.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 03:39 PM
3

The problem is most people have no interest in seduction whatsoever, it's just a load of average Joe's here peddling the same advice cos they got lucky a couple of times. That's why the old pua lairs are really the place to be if you need proper info and help, but overtime they became less popular, and this one stop shop for all advice, and a diluted mess evolved.
/r/seduction04/07/21 11:31 PM
2

Load of rubbish, only fatties will go for you straight away for your looks with near zero game and wont give you shit tests, you are advocating 'settled for' women. My best game has always come from remaining in a solid masculine frame, with little emotion and brushing off shit tests, that's when she sees your value and do those other things. HVM have abundance, I get my attraction from her later personally because she will slip into an naturally feminine frame, when I can then enjoy her.
/r/seduction04/07/21 09:32 PM
1

That's masculine energy, nothing to do with actual dick size, its not literal.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 03:53 PM
-1

Yeah cos there's no way I can find wrinkly old dudes with decent looking women less than half their age. The other way around, almost never. And don't say ALL those women have been with them for a discrete amount of time and are just waiting to fleece them, many have been together over a decade and have children. I've been a pussy slayer at 5'6 without my big shoes, and just being average looking, but I can have 10 game with women, and consistently date women taller than me. Looks only counted f…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 02:40 PM
6

Yes but most single men in their 40's haven't increased their SMV, it has actually declined if its at or below the average wage I'd say.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 02:36 PM
0

Depends on your definition of the wall. Almost any woman who keeps herself fairly slim will get men offering her dick, a relationship that's another matter. For men, the older you get resources will count for so much more in hitting or missing the wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 02:31 PM
1

Yeah weird, almost like men and women are different with different societal burdens to uphold.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 02:25 PM
2

The women I've met who are in their 40's who can pass for mid 20's always had guys who looked much older with them never saw it as an issue. Most women don't think like this, but your advice on making the best of yourself is still valid, but mostly down to genetics. Things go in cycles anyway, if anything its women who always had a tan that look like prunes now, and much worse than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 12:39 PM
1

They advocate for women not to be sults and the state not subsidising degeneracy welfare benefits which combats it. Most men will never stoop that low to sharing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 12:31 PM
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Unless they're shit actresses looking to sleep their way into roles. Make sure you can get them those roles, if your the guy in charge or have some form of recording, cos 15 years later those women could be coming back for their loot. Women will open their legs for men, no matter how disfigured or fat if those men can do them big favours in sleeping their way to their best lives..
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 12:30 PM
1

Because the men can produce so little individually to support a family obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 07:44 PM
0

Yeah, so its in countries which are more feminised where it doesn't happen. Men's natural urges don't vary from country to country.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 03:28 PM
1

And which advanced civilisations would that be then? Lol, none. It only makes sense when you have so little. Advanced civilisations where men can achieve-rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 03:26 PM
1

Bullshit reviewed by other people studying bullshit? It's easily observable without such nonsense. Question: Are highly desirable sports and movie stars sharing a single woman or in reality do many of even their wives have to put up with them acknowledging that she will just be the main pussy whilst he will always have side pussy and her straying will never be acceptable. There's your review, which we all know to be true, and why only at the opposite end we see the opposite like a lovely sliding…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 08:52 PM
1

Only practiced by low value males because their resources are so limited and as an act of desperation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 08:21 PM
-1

Now you do
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 03:51 PM
0

Not if she's DTF
/r/seduction01/07/21 03:39 PM
-2

And you'd have a hole like a billposters glue bucket.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 02:59 PM
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Birth control is man made, so not a natural female instinct, and also the men wouldn't accept it, hareems are only logical naturally for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 02:57 PM
0

Fair game slut.
/r/seduction30/06/21 03:41 PM
1

Women only get to say this because its all hanging out. Women get less rap because its only once you get her opened up and close you see and feel the differences.
/r/seduction30/06/21 03:39 PM
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Absolute BS, like your Don Juan tuning down 100 women outside your door in a queue. Or in this case, a woman who can be in the sack in under 2hrs of meeting.
/r/seduction30/06/21 03:35 PM
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Childish attitude, not the response of a sexually confident man.
/r/seduction30/06/21 03:33 PM
1

The whims of women are irrelevant, just continue to escalate the situation. Just please don't use the childish responses posted on here, involving anything about having a 2cm penis or something etc, for the love of god.
/r/seduction30/06/21 03:31 PM
1

Only made possible because women open their legs so easily, otherwise it wouldn't be worth men's time. Simple really.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 03:22 PM
1

Lol. Society would end up like gay men, fucking in toilets, not interested in your name.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 03:17 PM
1

Women can go without out it quite happily when they don't find any attractive males and they have no social stigma attached to it, and only get aroused should one come along. Men are biologically programmed to fuck seeing something walking past the window, hence the depression difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 03:12 PM
0

Not so much as social conditioning, but what men and women are biologically evolved to do, and much of why men have higher rates of suicide when they cant meet what they are naturally programmed to do. Men and women are more than bits of flesh difference, no matter what woke says.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 02:47 PM
5

Best summary I've ever seen written, far better than my version. Bravo. 9-10's aren't on FDS.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 06:31 PM
4

Those men are only matching on the basis they can get a moist hole within 2 hours of meting, not for romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 03:18 PM
3

So if they lied about wanting a relationship (Because you opened your legs so easily, but whatever) that doesn't count as 'truly consensual;?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 05:28 PM
3

On average clearly college grads, because as I previously mentioned those actually intelligent non promiscuous women drag the intelligence up.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 05:13 PM
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That's why they're in so much debt paying off worthless degrees in gender studies, so much for intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 05:08 PM
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The study you cite doesn't even remotely say that. They chose to use higher education meaning more intelligent, which is BS, since liberal arts degrees are worth horse shit most of the time, as an easy example, and they didn't do a proper IQ test, they made up their own to fit a narrative. I can 100% guarantee you that splitting the women into proper degrees like chemical engineers, medial doctors - those actually intelligent women, would not be near the high promiscuity range. ​ "Obviously, a 1…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 05:01 PM
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Goes back to the old adage of men divide by 3 women times by five or whatever. Women rationalise it like, oh I was on 'holiday' or 'I was drunk' so it didn't count. Female propensity to slut behaviour is heavily tied to how well known she is to an area.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 04:51 PM
2

You're trans, doesn't count for the purposes here, you're still a man essentially.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 04:44 PM
2

Sorry that's not how it works. If it were true nice guys for instance would be getting laid like porn stars. Women clearly feel very differently about different men, even if they were identical twins on different dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 03:47 PM
2

Do both if its available and how much time you have. Learn to feel the force from the vibe you are getting. I want it to flow naturally, than clunkily lurching into a side topic of just asking for a date. Maybe it came up in conversation that you both enjoy the food market or something nearby, so it makes for an easier hook that you'll meet there next time. You don't even need to specify a time, just that we both like the idea and that you'll be arranging. I'm getting old now, so its not my game…
/r/seduction20/06/21 03:41 PM
0

Its the equivalent of dumpster diving, you should have enough standards to turn it down.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 12:28 PM
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Whether she was a single mom or not wasn't really relevant in that context. You should be rejecting single mothers outright, you are not a cuck. Men who relationship up single mothers are part of the degeneracy issue as it becomes more acceptable, they need to live slut shamed for their lives like they used to be, to prevent it getting out of control.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 11:54 AM
2

If you can't cum as a man, most likely she will be disappointed in herself, unless you're going around apologising, not sure where that came from.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 03:47 PM
4

That is good, the woman should be doing 90% of the talking, with you asking occasional questions, the more mystery you have the better.
/r/seduction18/06/21 06:32 PM
1

Er.. not like that. Do you do that with random men too? No, so clearly there's an intent. If anything I delay giving my name up as much as possible; the more air of mystery the better.
/r/seduction18/06/21 05:58 PM
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Approaching a woman upfront like that when you don't know her, is just clearly stating your intent too much.
/r/seduction17/06/21 08:59 PM
8

You need to work on your inner confidence and just not give a fuck, until you're immune to it.
/r/seduction17/06/21 08:57 PM
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Exactly, even watching sports and enjoying your team play, its BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 07:46 PM
2

Load of rubbish, a woman can only reach peak femininity when she looks up to a man, never equal modern day woke rubbish. Its easy enough to get around being seen as a human ATM because you never let her see your shit until you know she is well smitten with you because of your presence. If you cant see gold diggers or women with mental issues you need to re evaluate.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 09:54 PM
2

That is countered by the fact that women reach peak arousal in times of war en masse, its evolutionary built in for the survival of the human race. Women are evolved to be aroused by fear. Plenty of phycos are just oddballs and wierdos not necessarily with any confidence, and those women who perused those men had very little knowledge of them as characters ever met them and just gone from what they had seen on TV which is often very limited or read about.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 10:19 PM
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Women are attracted to men they fear, but they don't see men who have to resort to violence as a good risk/reward worthy in a partner, a better mate diffuses situations whilst maintaining a masculine frame.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 10:17 PM
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Women complement each other insincerely, the same way men clown each other and don't mean it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 10:11 PM
1

Yeah and like you can do that every week, don't think so. I've only done that twice when its an agreed hookup. The point about cold approach is that for the vast majority of men 90% plus who have zero social skills with women just having OLD and no game wont fix their problems maybe apart from the occasional piece of blind luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 09:28 PM
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I'd still want to have that presence, even if you aren't a slut slayer. Competency managing women through experience, even if you break off the laying part, so she can be her best self for both of you is important long term either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 03:46 PM
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My rule is, you can go on OLD, but only if you can cold approach. If you cant do cold approach because you haven't got the balls, then you're not going to have the presence anyway to lay women consistently, even if I give you a 100 dates a day from OLD.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 10:33 AM
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Or just remove those nonsense laws, and doesn't create the issue for naïve men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 08:43 PM
0

Its the best response by far and that is absolutely clear from history, rather than we must interfere and make it worse. Teen pregnancies have only declined as aspirations increase from living standards, that is more luck and certainly not due to every failed government policy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 08:41 PM
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Nothing is 100% but its perfectly clear that it was massively lower. Teen pregnancies, outside of wedlock, single mothers all degeneracy factors have increased massively since the 1900's.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 07:14 PM
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Prenups aren't available in every country, no the law needs to change. And dependent of states in the US you can end up with the absurdity of providing cover for her children with other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 06:55 PM
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25-35 is a big age rang, most women and men are waiting until that 33-36 age range for children, life expectancy is also increasing, so I can't see the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 03:36 PM
1

Lopsidedly beneficial towards women, does not mean 'everything'
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 03:17 PM
2

Don't think I ever said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 02:43 PM
1

Divorce law isn't a thing? The others are clearly policy which have affected people's character and behaviour, if you want to argue semantics, might as well be law. Affirmative action is a bit different since any research by people like Thomas Sowell shows it actually has the perversity that it holds black backwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 02:30 PM
1

Broadly speaking in western countries. Women going back to men's rooms alone which would never have made court in the past, female quotas in jobs directly and indirectly, divorce payments, general policies of emasculating men and elevating women; schooling particularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 02:01 PM
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I think you'll find that was the case for many decades, the shame a single mother and slut shaming had clearly worked in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 01:30 PM
0

Pretty dubious when you account for the real cost of inflation and actual economic opportunity. The economic arguments holds up well when compared to Japan because it never imported feminism, retained trad values and everyone became incel because of high inflation and government debt sucking the life out of the economy. Western counties are running perfectly in line with a trend that started in Japan much earlier with those same points.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 12:29 AM
2

Some will argue that all women are feminine, and if she can't be feminine to you, then you aren't man enough for that woman. 2 identical twins go on a date with the same woman on different days, one breezes past shit tests remains in a masculine frame and she becomes smitten, the other falls flat on his face and he never gets a message back the next day.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 12:14 AM
1

TRP? Hardly, more like just learning game which both gives you the skills and options from there once you have the know how. Good game from PUA's used to mean both inner (focusing on yourself) and outer (in terms of understanding female nature) I don't know how TRP managed to hijack this when game was well before TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 11:57 PM
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Feminism is clearly winning because a lot of that shit (dependent on country weighting to various degrees) is geared towards women in law.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 11:48 PM
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No sluts no choking why is this hard for you to understand? Putting the cart before the horse.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 10:58 PM
1

Yeah amazing how many women here claiming to be the near virgin Mary yet the vast majority of women are easy as fuck into bed, once you get a decent skill level.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 04:53 PM
1

You would never know if he has any decent game. Again just words because those men with the best game get you moist and doing things "I don't normally do this" for men. You'd be dating the men you normally friend zone if it were true,
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 01:51 PM
2

Things go in cycles, won't always be this way and still doesn't have to be. If you can game women cold approach you will be king well above any OLD equivalent, infact since so many men don't do it, you're going to be a massive standout. For those reliant on OLD will be mostly pointless since even if I gave you 100 matches a day, if you've no game you still won't covert that to lays anyway. It's forcing women and men to make bad choices. Steroid use in men is making a big comeback because of it, …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 06:13 PM
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Nothing is the answer. Most men spend their lives in quiet desperation until they find a wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 09:27 PM
3

Fairs fair when you consider that we know only that at least 50% of the child will always be the mother's.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 05:24 PM
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Those men are smashing pussy up, and they certainly won't put up with mouthy FDS types.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 05:23 PM
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At 32 you should be aiming for for AMS. All those childish fun fibe type things that you get from ASD or some other guy who teaches magic should be going from your life, as you move into a more masculine frame focusing on yourself.
/r/seduction05/06/21 11:26 PM
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No woman finds incongruent behaviour attractive it spooks them, and it rarely gets you far in life. The same way if they see you working a room only talking to the hot women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 09:35 PM
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"Just be good to me" Has nothing to do with that. Those are lyrics about a woman who's happy to stay as a side chick because she sees the man as so high value. When ironically her and 'all those other girls' are singing the same song and are disposable, and are all side chicks and acknowledge it, hence the reference to "all your other girls". Incels would probably use this song as a reference to chads and bad boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 09:26 PM
3

It works both ways. Particularly screaming women, which is the most off putting BS I ever had to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 08:30 PM
1

I'd like to know the timescale of how long you all took to get into bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 08:28 PM
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Unconsciously many women are trying to break the relationship to see if you're the man you're claiming to be, you obviously kept jumping through all her shit tests.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 08:25 PM
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Well that's the art, good pickup isn't pickup. Simply throwing out a comment about the weather or making a comment about how good a certain cake is that's available in the shop as you're stood in the queue next to her, but never facing her at initial delivery, in that lovely serendipitous moment is just who you are as a man, and not picking up you see.
/r/seduction01/06/21 04:55 PM
1

They have to be better in other ways, a nerdy guy like Jeff Bezos has zero masculine attractive traits, even if he was good looking (which he obviously isn't) other than just being rich, in that way better.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 04:19 PM
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More like the other way around. Those types of men have that kind of persona and are less desirable. Surely common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 01:20 PM
1

Cos its all you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:13 PM
1

Er no, men will just fuck anything. Men aren't going around all doe eyed smitten in the same way, or want to become naturally subservient and take great pleasure in it, its a different attraction. You can look at it in a million ways of what women respond to, classically good masculine men like James Bond aren't ubiquitously attractive for be being equal, he is just a badass and better than the woman, and that aint changing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 02:06 PM
1

Its perfectly clear and obvious that superstar men in Hollywood, music bands have a train of women queuing up for them to bed, not coincidental. The same principle applies to women in her own relative habitat.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 01:44 PM
1

Because its all you know. The evolutionary basis for higher levels of female attraction for having a man that is just better than her remains the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 01:24 PM
1

You're in the Starbucks of relationships, or whatever is just he definition of the most average nice place that you can go to, that's not flashy, and go along with.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 12:19 PM
1

Yes a relatively new unnatural phenomenon of feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 12:51 AM
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Men are just psychologically evolved in their need to advance in a society, and when it can't happen, you get incels and high suicide rates. Women will just follow men's leads for the vast majority of the time, so they aren't going to start throwing themselves over incel men even when that is the majority, and will just abstain, hence Japans near absent birthrate. Women at their core are only the nurturers in society. I'd wager a bet that the declining testosterone levels in western men doesn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 12:35 AM
0

The woke politically correct answer only, no foundation in female attraction. I'm sure you will tick along nicely though, it doesn't have to be a deal breaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 11:48 PM
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Its a consequence of different things. The stagnant economies of the west are similar to that of Japan now, a consequence of high government debt and inflation which sucks the life out of the economy, which kills men's rigor, which is why they are all so incel in Japan. Unlike Japan though, the west has the additional poison of an increasingly feminised society that continues to elevate women and emasculate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 11:42 PM
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A settled for relationship, where the woman cannot ever appreciate the man at a higher level .
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 04:24 PM
1

Yeah, but you're part of the brazen tramp stamp block of women, this is more middle class talk thread, so you distort it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 09:12 PM
1

How do you score better looking women using a woman so ugly as not to fuck, that's not good social proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 09:08 PM
1

Yep, you'll understand a lot all right, a load of incoherent nonsense that is entirely dependent on their mood fluctuations trying to rationalise any old horseshit. Which is why we never learn game from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 09:06 PM
1

Once you discount men who had money in savings or some form of insurance payout from the sickness, so that the woman could live her same life even if he is sick, it will work out the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 11:36 PM
1

I don't know if you're trolling or not, or its your perception of the world (probably). But being averagely attractive even average physique, you can get women to feel the same with a solid masculine frame and the perception of HVM status in other ways. I had far far more women working on my internal self value, that time spent at the gym smashing girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 11:32 PM
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That's why nobody takes female dating coaches serious, a fish trying to teach a fisherman how to fish, its just whatever emotion happens to be on your mind at the time, and isn't helpful.
/r/seduction21/05/21 08:32 PM
1

Men are too sexually aggressive using OLD, hiding behind a keyboard, where they're writing checks their body can't cash. Conversely, in cold approach those same men are geishas. Which is why for the men complaining about getting no matches on OLD, it won't solve your problems even if I give you a 100 matches a day.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 07:51 PM
9

So you started before saying that its because of him other men would have a harder time getting laid, but then you were only after a hookup, fascinating.
/r/seduction21/05/21 07:47 PM
6

She should usually be doing 80% plus of the talking, once you've got her comfortable in your presence, you never go into detail about you life; having an air of mystery. She should come away thinking "I've spoken to this guy for ages, but I don't know anything about him".
/r/seduction21/05/21 07:43 PM
0

If it was your boss it would still be tacitly if going alone, if its doing hired work which was clearly stated, then no I don't think any jury would hold that against you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 11:02 PM
5

If you think that a man inviting a woman back to his place alone, and they both understand that, and there isn't almost always tacitly implied things going on there, versus male abusers attacking other men which wouldn't even be close to any form of similar suggestion, and you want to call those things the same thing, then you're using massive outliers to make an absurd point. He wouldn't have been able to do it women in this way because of those clear intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 10:39 PM
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Men have social burdens in other ways. And it isn't really double standards;, anyone who wants to get in my face about fucking women casually I will laugh in their face, I am doing my job when available, males are billions of years programmed to spread seed. You are living in cloud cuckoo land.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 10:23 PM
2

You can say it all you want, there is no celebrated female lothario equivalent of James Bond, not because nobody hasn't thought of the idea, she's just going to be a slut, and its never going to be a film.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 10:01 PM
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Yeah weird, its almost like men and women aren't the same since we'd otherwise have the same locker room, and each gender has its own societal burdens to bare, and men can only be slut makers.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 09:27 PM
3

Lol, you're all savages, even when I know I'm 100% on for a straight hookup back to mine I take her to a nearby bar for a few drinks to loosen her up and get her a bit more comfortable. Besides, not all women have had previous slut encounters in the past, just most of them. So I will happily wine and dine for those not in that category.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 06:31 PM
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The best art of pickup is making it not looking like pickup, it is made serendipitous. In the same way people meet through social events, you make the glitch feel like it was a natural encounter.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 07:33 PM
2

So you claim, but around 80% of women minus religious types admit to having at least one ONS, and that's women admitting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 06:19 PM
1

Its bad advice, its not how attraction works, and they won't enjoy it, you are giving standard ineffective male logical advice. Women are attracted to men who are mission focused, not relationship focused, evolutionary and scientifically tested. Women are more attracted to men who's emotions remain unclear, she is losing her attraction for him and trying to find a way to check out of the relationship by fucking things up, because they are so unattractively clear. The character of the man you are…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 04:20 PM
1

Thanks, I don't go with your standard advice that I would expect from 99% of average frustrated Joe's at the bar, that offers no insight, and have standard hum drum settled for relationships, at best. The lack of clarity is as I said, at 90% where she is certain you won't leave you if she isn't being a good woman and remains her best self and not getting too comfortable is the best balance, the man needs to have enough value for her to know that he has the option of replacing her is she doesn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 03:47 PM
1

2 different points. A woman has higher levels of attraction when the mans feelings remain unclear. She cant respect a man she has to 'nag' and he jumps through hoops. A man needs to be a man taking care of things for himself, because it is just his character, nothing to do with pleasing the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 03:12 PM
1

yawn, parroting the same failed feel good things that I'd expect to hear from the average Joe in the pub. This is a seduction forum, not for standard failed advice.
/r/seduction16/05/21 01:57 PM
0

I've blown away at least 10 women doing what he does, tried and tested to failure.
/r/seduction16/05/21 11:03 AM
1

Nothing to do with 'respect' its what keeps a woman at peak attraction, based on obvious evolutionary mechanisms and scientifically tested as above.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 11:01 AM
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Never ever message them back/ have any contact until at least a week later, she doesn't see you in that way in that moment. And it should be a neutral message.
/r/seduction15/05/21 11:45 PM
0

Yeah they are wrong because it has nothing to do with the woman, you should just be a man first and have your shit together or you are dammed from the start, do not bring a woman into your life until first you can be a man, the woman is an irrelevant compliment only, she'll never be able to respect a man that is so into them, they will aide their own downfall.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 07:56 PM
-1

You haven't provided any workarounds, you're making the situation worse by making her think you're into he more, which is not masculine and is even more unattractive. Women would rather stay with a complete asshole who treats her badly. If going around being nice to women is what got women moist, you would have half the frustrated guys here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 06:42 PM
2

Not the point really, it has nothing to do with the woman, he needs to sort his life out regardless. The woman remains a compliment to his life only.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 06:17 PM
3

Its actually very traditional advice at the core, of being what a man and woman should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 05:50 PM
2

No he should be paying his bills and keeping up the house already, i.e have his shit together, the woman is an a compliant to his life only.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 05:48 PM
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Not really, women are infinitely more attracted to men who's emotions remain unclear to them. The vast majority of good advice that top male coaches advocated has all been scientifically demonstrated in time now. Men's choice to cheat is entirely based on internal values, should the opportunity present itself. You're parroting average Joe advice for average settled for relationships that doesn't keep a woman at her peak attraction. Pre modern day woke culture all the traditional men Clint Eastwo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 05:23 PM
1

Even that is over rated, being an average guy shape with no weights lifted but 10/10 game will get you a magnitude higher number of women than 10/10 body but with average Joe game.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 05:18 PM
0

Women who need a 'dating coach' are damaged goods that need rehabilitating, no different to former sluts now FDS types. Aside from that advice being totally incorrect and upside down. A HVM has options, and its not a woman's natural instincts to hoe about, so the love must come from the woman, even from a biological perspective women have higher levels of 'feelings' chemicals released from sex. Male seduction on the other hand is an art done correctly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 05:15 PM
1

Nope he's a clueless nerd, unless he has multiple personalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 01:04 AM
1

You've no idea what you're talking about, its not a macho act wandering around like some sort of bear, in fact totally the opposite, nothing phases you, you have a calming presence actually, brushing off her shit tests, 'macho men' get angry. Thankfully women value other things; Jeff Bezos is 10/10 for value in what he can provide to a woman in her desire for a comfortable lifestyle which is why a woman would settle for him, but based on all his leaked texts (which are true) he has 0/10 other in…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 12:14 AM
0

Yeah its a slog. The best rule I heard is that you need to keep her at 90% where she thinks you wont leave you, and other women won't snap you up if she doesn't act right, you just need to look out for the cues that's she's getting too comfortable. Women don't naturally think logically like a man would do, that she can just divorce you and get what money she wants at stage one, she needs to have checked out of being with you mentally first.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 11:35 PM
1

Yes I agree, that was my point. Maintaining a masculine frame and knowing you're better than women is priority 1, maintain that and there is no "Women just get bored of fucking the same guy" she will want to make sure she is satisfying you to the max and she will enjoy every minute of it, which is where you went down the wrong route. Only men are biologically driven to spread seed at the max rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 11:18 PM
3

The men are weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 11:04 PM
1

Yeah, right up until the divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 11:03 PM
0

Wrong, they lost respect for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 11:01 PM
3

That's why slut shaming is so important for a balanced society. It really just depends on where you can sit in the market as a man if its going to benefit you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 10:46 PM
1

Yep, outside of the airbrushed stomach photos she will look like its elephant skin hanging off her, those tits will look like Spaniels ears. I've ended up in bed wit women with women like that and its a sad sight, you can see the loose skin in her face.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 10:22 PM
1

That's overall data. A finer breakdown would show that successful men with a woman are most happy and have a much lower divorce rate. Average Joe's who make up the bulk, with equal women are more likely to be miserable
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 05:23 PM
-3

This is why ugly wealthy women like Adele will always have problems finding a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 04:24 PM
0

It's a 'settled for' relationship, that goes against nature. It's why despite every advancement of feminism, improved living conditions, women report year after year they are more and more miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 04:17 PM
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You act like they wouldn't know that, so there wouldn't be some magical 'expectation' She would just be that, in her overall natural subservient feminine frame, gladly and happily. The situation wouldn't arise, for this to be some 'suprise', since if he has any serious value he would never have taken her on in the first instance.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 04:14 PM
3

Men value other things. I don't know what you class as a 'bum' in women. But I typically only go for the woman working as a secretary working in a very professional type environment, where she can be kept lady like. Plenty of women who work in sales, who do well for themselves won't cut it for me, far too masculinised.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 04:11 PM
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Not the same, men are mostly interested in looks only upfront. Men have more value in other ways. A female simp throwing herself over you doing whatever she could for you is perfect for most men, most men can't get that or whatever relative to that, she doesn't behave the same way for all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 01:27 AM
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Don't know why , the more simps the better, much easier to stand out from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 05:47 PM
-2

Repeat, for the 100th time, this is only using OLD, which force women to make bad decisions, which otherwise they wouldn't take. In the wild, not true, and far more efficient for men, since she wont be able to make herself half the weight she actually is compared to her profile, and that lazy eye and wooden leg can't be hidden.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 07:26 PM
1

All women prefer it, those that say they don't want it have just had a bad experience of it being with a creepy or mis calibrated guy and its was done incorrectly. Good game is when it feel like a purely serendipitous moment and chance encounter, as much as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 09:31 PM
1

Yeah, the majority of women go through a hoe phase with a handful of ONS or similar guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 06:19 PM
8

Percentages of women in the western world who've had an ONS says different, especially when you discount the religious groups. Unless the majority are all traumatised
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 11:12 PM
9

A consequence of the size of the state ; sucking the life out of men's rigour which includes servicing national debts and inflation, is the reason. Happened in Japan in the 80's and is still going on, as a country as a whole they are the most ubiquitously incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 11:33 PM
13

Disagree, I have several fat rough looking law friends with good women on their arms, men and women value different things especially when looking to settle down for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 09:04 PM
3

Still, he allowed her to get far too comfortable behaving like that. Most PhD types are weak when it comes to managing women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 05:51 PM
1

Cos looks really aren't even close to being as important to men as most think (Ignoring OLD distorted market). Its feminine behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 04:22 PM
1

I wasn't clamoring for it to stop I can reign in hell using both. Most men are too lazy to learn how to be an old school fisherman on the other hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 08:32 PM
1

Yes even big time movie stars get married because of this, but will have side pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 07:08 PM
5

A 2 woman can have a different dick in her every night at ease if she was that way inclined.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 07:06 PM
0

This is only due to a defect in the current system of OLD, outside of OLD not really such a big issue. Guys who had good game before OLD and weren't whatever an 8 is, never game much of a fuck before this. OLD distorts female behaviour, a guy with good cold approach game beats any OLD guy hand down, with a 3 point gap in looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 05:36 PM
1

They do want those men for marriage just not to fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 03:22 PM
-1

Nice guys aren't nice, they're still the type to curse women when they don't get action, thinking putting nice coins into women gets pussy, and women instinctually know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 08:34 PM
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What do people gain from making up posts for things that don't exist? Is it part of a strategy to gain followers, is it personal validation in the hope it blows up in the broader media. I still don't get this phenomenon.
/r/seduction18/04/21 01:26 PM
1

Like Amber started off crazy, no man puts up with a crazy woman like that from the start, he is beta when it comes to managing women, and over time she came to be disgusted with him. All women are manageable, you just need to be man enough for that woman, and it depends if its going to be worth your time if she's naturally prone to going more crazy. What I find odd is how men who are famous and have almost certainly had women throwing themselves at them on a daily basis remain so clueless to the…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 12:18 AM
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Wrong. Yes those things did happen occasionally but nowhere near to the levels today, and those women did live in shame, particularly single mothers, its a simple matter of fact looking at the rates of single mothers, and that's not even debatable? If shaming didn't work then why don't women openly brag with friends about same night lays? Women particularly on holiday and away from 'prying eyes' are far more prone to slut behaviour, when there are less bonds associated with people who need to kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 11:19 PM
2

Personally I dumped all the smiley and laughing stuff, as I age I'm much more about a traditional stronger masculine frame in all aspects. I can be funny as fuck in some ways, but I certainly don't smile I'm straight faced about it.
/r/seduction09/04/21 05:43 PM
0

Her mission is to support , answered your own question.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 12:42 AM
0

You must have low standards if you were prepared to put up with a member of the feminazi, you need more options in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 08:53 PM
1

No such thing as ghosting for women who are bedable in that timescale, ghosting is not a thing. Other women who don't go into bed just weren't for him, or there are too many sluts in the sea to be worth his time, simples. It surprised me hitting 30, that women are at peak sluttiness, its like they're running around trying to marry up by whatever means necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 08:15 PM
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It is words to those affect, you have a natural masculine frame, you become a man of that presence, you are congruent entirely with a man of that profile., otherwise you are cheesy one liner man.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 11:55 PM
2

Not a line, its performed naturally.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 11:46 PM
2

Yeah that guy never gets laid, and isn't the man every man wants to be, and the man every woman wants to be with. Its totally unrealistic, and that why it would never work.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 11:23 PM
1

Its always done as close to a James Bond voice tone and frame, as possible, don't confuse me with your incel approaches.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 10:24 PM
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That's why you never answer that question, the perfect reply is "I just like to take my time with a woman", but its done in a seductive enough voice tone to be open to interpretation, and the woman will pick what you're implying based on her motive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 09:16 PM
1

Nope, is the simple answer, that's not what she was attracted to at the start and it doesn't change. Your examples are modern man child thinking. There was a good example a few years ago of a sports star who got divorced, his wife fell out of love with him because he became all nice nice lovable dad guy who just wanted to spend time with his kids, since most sports guys retire at mid 30's-40, she lost all respect for him. I'd love to see the divorce rates of men who decide to become house husban…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 12:05 AM
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Nope, is the simple answer, that's not what she was attracted to at the start and it doesn't change. Your examples are modern man child thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 11:58 PM
2

Gold digging is overrated as an argument, those women are just very specialised in finding those men. Tech guys could be rolling in pussy, but don't have the swagger to pull it off, if they learnt game and had their money then it would obviously still be better than a guy with an average salary and good game.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 06:34 PM
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Most tech guys are insular/nerdy, and have no game, other things are required to have multiple women constantly chasing you. Sports/movie stars guys wives know the deal and will suck it up for the lifestyle. You can only get high n because women go into bed so easily, and it wouldn't be worth a mans time if he had to play out long drawn out commitment to get other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 06:07 PM
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Just because me and you have lived in relative times of peace, which is actually a blink of an eye in terms of human life a) don't expect it to change for centuries, b) think that war isn't the norm. The emasculation of men has only been going on at a slow rate from the 1930's, just more obvious today.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 02:39 AM
2

That's like saying men shouldn't be attracted by physicality as their primary objective with women too, not happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 10:56 PM
1

Please, even a chubber like Monica Lewinski can bring down a man in power. Men will stick it in a jar of peanut butter if really came down to it, and women know it. Women have been opening their legs for men who do them favours since the dawn of time, say what you want about Harvey W, some of those women were definitely doing it voluntarily to get acting positions which they would never have otherwise have got.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 04:56 PM
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Validation hoes.
/r/seduction31/03/21 11:36 PM
1

Its a scientific fact t levels are declining, but not due to plastic, that's your own pet theory. Plastic is just a derivative from oil. I'd like to see a comparison with non western countries to disprove it, where feminism hasn't been adopted and you have an advancing economy, when you have those two then I don't think you'd see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 09:36 PM
1

Unlikely, won't be able to mentally cope. Like putting a zoo animal back in the wild, never lasts
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 09:17 PM
1

They do, pretty easy to get a hold of depending which country you live in.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 09:16 PM
2

Female fertility is more to do with the pill, and I expect that most male t levels are down because from an early age masculine traits have been weaned out of men early on so the body is conditioned to produce lower levels. I'm far more on the nurture side of this. People in bygone eras used to eat a lot of shitty pieces of meat, smoked and drank more etc, so I don't buy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 09:11 PM
1

All women shit test, unless you're know to her and you've already demonstrated value, or by blind luck you passed it, or she's so low value isn't. Most women are insecure in their own way. Very feminine women don't shit test aggressively, but do in very feminine ways, but are insecure.
/r/seduction29/03/21 08:02 PM
0

I've ploughed through it in a bar for an ONS a few times, I won't be 'courting' anything.
/r/seduction29/03/21 06:28 PM
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Yeah , I certainly wouldn't bother, but some guy is.... Those women only act that way because some idiot guy in the past let her get that comfortable, and now every other guy has to put up with that BS. I agree, not for me either, it is possible however. Those type of women are good for getting your iron balls. I love a set like that as a warm up, because once you've been through that you've got a good bulletproof amour for the rest of the evening, and it means I wont get unbalanced by other wom…
/r/seduction29/03/21 06:16 PM
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So you should put up with it, and that is going to be best for you and her, fascinating.
/r/seduction29/03/21 06:00 PM
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Some guy is going to be fucking her. Those types of women are just savages and I don't know who puts up with them, but they can be broken to an extent.
/r/seduction29/03/21 05:11 PM
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Yes lets just fail shit tests = No pussy. Sorry, but its not even deliberate, they do it instinctually. You act like women all got together and decided they were going to come up with a plan.
/r/seduction29/03/21 04:59 PM
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Really like this .All commonly referred to in game as shit tests. I notice in bars guys who catch a girls eye, look away and then look back, and boom he's out when he tries to approach, its a weakness in him evolved from evolution, and women instinctively know it. 2 other important examples: Her trying to lead, which is a big one, where she tries to lead the way by taking control of decisions, and seeing if you break and just go along and agree. Disrespecting- Her "I don't see the point of buyin…
/r/seduction29/03/21 04:57 PM
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It doesn't cut that way so easily. A lot of lower class women can still be mouthy and masculine, having being brought up in rougher environments. You still don't want a woman with a mouth like a drunken sailor. Its finding that balance.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 01:08 PM
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Some will argue that all women are feminine, its just that if she isn't, you aren't man enough for that woman. Its a woman that takes great pride in satisfying her man and wants to slip into a more subservient frame with you. The difference between now and say 50 year ago, is its just harder to pull it off now for men, as men have been emasculated and can't see the woods for the trees, and women have been elevated in the world. The only way its possible is to have a strong masculine frame. Other…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 11:25 AM
1

The honest pros admit its there for the cameras.
/r/seduction25/03/21 10:24 PM
1

You should know already what type of woman you go for unless you're after a dtf and you're pretty sure she is, based on how she comes across. I only relationship more towards traditional feminine women, and she will be naturally attracted at a much higher level to a strong masculine frame. I don't need any other BS.
/r/seduction21/03/21 09:05 PM
1

'Hanging out' is still very different to walking on the street. If she's sat in the park I agree approach her, same when she's by a food vendor place if there's a market on, that's socially acceptable, and still very different to a moving target that's in shopping mode walking, or some other kind of purposeful objective, even going to work. 0% of women going to work around the corner in 5 mins are going on an insta date.
/r/seduction21/03/21 08:56 PM
-1

All good advice, point 1 on talking about yourself is very underrated, never do that, you should remain a man of mystery where possible , she should be thinking "I feel like I've known this guy for ages but don't know anything about him", always let a woman talk about her favourite subject... herself, like 90% of the talking if you can get it that high.. The other points are just about being masculine.
/r/seduction21/03/21 12:44 AM
2

Yes that is the art, where it appears natural, and not getting the hit on reaction. Won't even be touching for the sake of it in grocery store. Body rocking is training wheels, the point is you have the presence that you are going to leave which can be achieved many ways, when necessary.
/r/seduction21/03/21 12:31 AM
1

Even your indirect is way too direct for me, I open with something like "These apples are much better...." I will be stood by the side of her never in front at a socially comfortable distance, maybe glancing at her. I want to be as indirect as possible in the opener. And if I get "are you talking to me" reply, just respond with "Ha, I just like talking to myself", and then go on some riff about your smoothie machine. Her "Am I being hit on here" sensors don't get set off. Your indirect sets off …
/r/seduction20/03/21 11:42 PM
1

Still better than meeting double her profile body weight on Tinder.
/r/seduction20/03/21 11:14 PM
2

Either that or he was learning pickup and had taken 'shit tests' very literally and was totally mis calibrated.
/r/seduction20/03/21 11:09 PM
0

How do you ride a bike without training wheels? Clucky pickup is just unfortunate in the early days. They're going to have to start somewhere, hopefully not like that though.
/r/seduction20/03/21 11:08 PM
2

Another one is "You have a bore friend", or "Must be time for an upgrade". I don't like his response, its not a good mindset to have, even if she does have a bf you need to get into the habit that everything women say is a shit test.
/r/seduction20/03/21 11:03 PM
3

Stopping women on the street walking is BS game, its there for training at best I say. Success rates are garbage, it just spooks women.
/r/seduction20/03/21 11:01 PM
1

For me a grocery store, bookstore, or bus stop my success rate is 90% higher, than stopping a woman walking on the street. And from anyone who is even half decent, I just don't know why it wouldn't be these same, unless you're one of these guys who approaches socially uncalibrated directly all the time. It doesn't matter how good the guy claims to be, but stopping women on the street, just spooks women at some level, and the success rates are low, its like watching a street seller. Slick game in…
/r/seduction20/03/21 10:53 PM
2

Women tend not to 'hook up' with men when it is a hobby related activity, for obvious slut shaming potential, picking up women in hobby type activities is good for LTR. And for all the people saying 'women don't want to get hit on', then you need to work on your game, if its that obvious you're like a salivating dog with a boner, be smoother. Same way its possible to get a woman's number in a gym, not that I personally do it there, if she thinks she's being 'hit on' you failed. Just chose an act…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 03:23 PM
1

Please, the race of some men have the policy of getting a woman knocked up and then moving onto the next as a matter of course, full cold blooded.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 12:27 AM
0

I don't because different races have very different values.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 11:24 PM
1

In one sense yes, boys particularly with no father figure are far more likely to go off the rails. I've also noticed how a lot of men who grew up with no father tend to become very maternal in their behaviour, and are much more likely to want to split child rearing duties with kids (white families at least).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 11:22 PM
4

Same with when you come out of a a LTR, men find it very hard to get back into the groove.
/r/seduction16/03/21 03:27 AM
1

Yes, being good looking younger is the only time it really matters I think, because you have no real status, its only once you start hitting 25 women start to value their pussy for other things men have. Male feminine energy are negative points in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 03:24 AM
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Nobody claimed "all". They were men who already had no problem bedding women pre marriage, and their offers increased, not decrease.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 09:52 PM
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Yes it is, the women 'believe' they will be the one to tame him.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 07:00 PM
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I didnt say they took it, you should question the women offering it up, knowing full well they have a ring on their finger
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 06:02 PM
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Any HVM that's married I know got more offers for pussy when married I have found, the wedding ring gives extra pre selection. (When not being on OLD)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 05:53 PM
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I didn't think men who decide to murder women on their first date usually have any background history, they're usually caught before then.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 05:49 PM
1

Yeah exactly so if a CEO woman and if you're the same that means kids farmed off to a nanny, it is totally impossible to do both, that's why feminists push so much to have men share things like maternity leave, they have to drop out of the jobs market, its one or the other.
/r/seduction14/03/21 02:38 PM
1

Its a meaningless statement, what is the arbitrary definition of ' take initiative', big difference between what everyone takes imitative for in their day to day life and running a big successful business.
/r/seduction13/03/21 02:53 PM
1

Well before feminism even struck there were very career women, a very small minority who avoided having children and became distinguished scientists. Plenty of those women on dating apps still able to conceive will state that they don't want children.
/r/seduction13/03/21 01:33 AM
1

Of those women who wait too long, and miss the boat proverbially, as you put it, just aren't that bothered from my experience, and I've met and dated them, those that have 'waited too long' don't want children usually by that point, and given how the basis of attraction works for men and women, they remain in a state of just not being that bothered. I recon some of them haven't fucked in 10 years at times, and its just not a thing for them to care about when they cant meet a man at a level they …
/r/seduction12/03/21 09:45 PM
1

No i actually agree in principle, but in practice these days the ceo wifing up the secretary just doesn't happen so much, and those women pin down career men early before they both hit it big, who are usually too busy to explore their potential options outside. Not all the time, just most of the time, and they have the lowest divorce rates.
/r/seduction12/03/21 08:31 PM
1

Yes they are lower value to women compared to high status men, lower just on whatever arbitrary definition we place on it. Its not possible for every man to be high status by definition, it is just a point about levels. Women wont marry men below themselves in income, the same way men aren't queuing up for fattys, yet the fat rich guy can get a far better looking woman and always has done, and nobody ever complained about that.
/r/seduction12/03/21 07:49 PM
1

Its an age thing as another guy here mentioned. Once you hit mid 30 you change your outlook.
/r/seduction12/03/21 07:45 PM
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If I'm earning big money I want the woman to be the mother to my children, not being farmed off to some nanny because she wants to run her business. Its a no for me.
/r/seduction12/03/21 07:36 PM
-1

And you will date a war pig because of her personality I'm guessing. lol, don't think so, works both ways, we value different things.
/r/seduction12/03/21 07:33 PM
-1

Sorry, but billions of years of evolution won't take out that lizard brain and women's natural instincts, in the blink of an eye we have been civilised, the same way men appreciate the female body form
/r/seduction12/03/21 07:31 PM
2

No, there's just no basis for attraction whatsoever, and it depends if the guy has money. If I was on a decent salary that could cover a family easily with a comfortable retirement. i'd want a homely type wife, men on more mediocre salaries would only pick the wealthier woman if they were identical twins.
/r/seduction12/03/21 07:23 PM
1

Not politically correct, but 100% true, which is why unattractive women with money have a hard time finding a partner that wont stray, since a man with money can get women far out of his league. The only reason men today have any interest in a woman's income is because of costs of living increases and stagnant wages, tax, inflation killing people's lifestyles. Back in the days when a man could easily cover his family, he would always chose the homely wife.
/r/seduction12/03/21 07:21 PM
1

Even if I want to pretend it works, you're not much of a coach if you can't read a woman's body language and know if she's going to be dtf in 3 dates and under without having to actually say it inadvertently. As for being 'agreeable' like you will go through her 'shit tests' and you're saying you should do that is even more risible.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 11:35 PM
1

Yep just being agreeable and going through women's shit test when she says jump, and you ask how high gets you laid, absolute rubbish.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 11:30 PM
1

Cos its such a bullshit move, its like a magician revealing his trick, even though I find it very hard to believe it works, I don't need to go down some BS route like this when her actions will speak louder than any words and its really not that hard to gauge.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 11:24 PM
1

That's what a beta thinks an alpha would say, like any manly man is having some bullshit talk about 'being on the same wavelength'. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 11:21 PM
2

Like I say, 5'9 with my big cuba heel with insole. I did 2 years solid game every Saturday 12-12 on the streets during the day then bars and you get your iron balls, i'm fairly decent build too, so keep a bit of muscle on you, doesn't have to be excessive or extreme. Its like being desensitised to anything, how many people can confidentially address an auditorium of 100 people, a thousand, 10,000 etc. practice confidence competency, no magic, just font let it take over your life and keep it as a…
/r/seduction09/03/21 12:36 AM
1

Excluding being some famous mega star, you don't get to be a man that women swoon over because you're bumbling you're way around women, its like practicing anything , and pratice only makes perfect, whatever women say. That's why going to into a bar with hot women on your arm works so well in attracting other women, lizard brain rules all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 11:46 PM
1

Lizard brain doesn't work that way.
/r/seduction07/03/21 05:37 PM
1

Her questioning your height and trying to put down what he studies is an obvious shit test by a woman, and they do it to different levels of aggressiveness depending on how masculine they are, a woman trying to lead the date and take direction is another way, she isn't trying to be a bitch, she needs to know you're the man you're claiming to be, and its instinctual, its not even deliberate on their behalf. Men and women respond to different cues or are you in the wrong group? I've had similar on…
/r/seduction07/03/21 02:58 AM
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Excellent, reminds me of my exact transformation and change in mindset. I do not give a fuck about being 5'6 (5'9 in my big Cuban heels with insole) and approaching 6'0 women in heels in bars, when I'm in state. I usually get them randomly blurting out something like "I could date a shorter guy if he's interesting to me". Always funny the next morning when I'm no longer wearing my shoes and they ask "How tall are you".
/r/seduction07/03/21 02:48 AM
2

This has been done to death. OLD is unfair to men and makes women make bad decisions. In the absence of all other information they would normally see in real life, women select based on height and looks much more preferably than the normal attraction signals they rely on say in a bar/work; seeing how you carry yourself and interact etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 07:03 PM
0

Still missing the point. DB only occurs because she no longer respects you as a man for which bad actions you took to make her feel that way. When she thinks you're a HVM, that overcomes the problem, and you will remain cherished and she remains keen to satisfy your needs in fear of you straying.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 06:41 PM
1

As judged by bed notch counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 10:37 PM
1

My rule, is you only get to claim pickup doesn't work when you've entered what is know as 'being in state' that's when you'll know, and you'll know when you hit that. ​ No you should not be getting plastic surgery or anything other mental like that. Even going to the gym is overrated., as long as you aren't obese. I had 5 times more pussy allocating time to gaming girls than I did swapping it for the gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 10:27 PM
1

The whole 'badboy' thing is a misnomer that comes from a mis explanation of failing women's shit tests.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/21 11:18 PM
1

Yes, but incels aren't able to speak to women, and only see Tinder data. Personally I think even height isn't so much a thing, I'm 5'6 and most women I date are 5'9 ish, reality is what you make it. (This is only outside OLD though !!!!)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/21 11:02 PM
0

Equal treatment under the law has nothing to do with socialism. Man has always sought to dominate throughout history, politicians do it today.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 10:45 PM
2

Nuanced advancement from the original ideological mental illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 05:34 PM
-2

Disagree on your conservative position, there is nothing 'social' about keeping the fruits of your own labour there is nothing to socialise, it does not exist, there is however justice or not justice.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 05:32 PM
1

Yep blm identity politics is doing a great
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 10:29 PM
0

Men can only be slut makers, get a grip.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 02:17 PM
1

Yeah and like there's not any other issues with the cultural incompatibility, at least the Italians and Irish have some semblance of compatibility values, again all degeneracy linked.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 11:10 PM
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I referenced Europe which is where the USA is heading, and inevitable as with all degeneracy, your link is USA data at the moment: I don't have access to the full link this is from what it states on your own page that is available: " In the meantime however, there have been studies that indicate the Flynn effect may have ended. Studies in Denmark, Norway and the United Kingdom have shown that the Flynn effect has not only ended, but that there is actually a decrease in the average IQ scores. Con…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 10:34 PM
1

Slut shaming is all but removed from society, highly important for family stability. Nothing wrong with women having menial jobs relative to men, and then go off to take care of the children when ready, nothing to do with trousers per se, its not literal. No issues with breeding a low IQ future generation and its future, okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 10:16 PM
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The is the ultimate fall of man into sin and peak degeneracy, and civilizations that embrace this kind of delusion do not last long. As per original post. You cant compare it to bygone failed civilisations directly , if that's your only depth of thinking, since nobody wore trousers. Its a point about masculinising women at the expense of direct competition with men. You're seeing it at dramatic levels to different extents in heavy welfare states in Europe, where professional women have all but g…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 10:07 PM
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Statement, no evidence, history says the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 09:57 PM
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Socialism at every level. Subsidising junk degrees and the size of the state and its debt sucking the life out of the productive economy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 12:45 AM
4

Cause is not correlation, its bunk statistics. You'd see the obvious ridiculousness by cutting it another way; that if I bed a different woman every night, as opposed to just staying with one woman this would make me live longer? I don't think so. If you're using the US data on life expectancy alone, white males live on average 10 years longer than black males, and white male Mormons live on average a further 10 years on top of that. Nothing to do with marriage itself, just because diet, exercis…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 10:36 PM
1

All good, apart from listening to women telling you what's wrong. I find it very hard to believe they gave you that list of 5, because that is exactly what you should be doing, women are oblivious to what you 'should' be doing.
/r/seduction21/02/21 10:19 PM
2

Trying to apply logic to lizard brain, stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 08:57 PM
0

FDS is like Red pill for men, except with the plan to have a relationship rather than max out your body count, otherwise no different. But it doesn't work since men and women value different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 06:51 PM
1

I don't class pickme women as alternative in that way. Pick me women types to me are feminine, so quite the opposite, and by far and away the most loveable and affectionate women you can have, the catch is, she needs to see you as a HVM, and heavily appreciates masculine energy, to reach her peak femininity. Its the maximum level of smitten a woman can ever reach as a queen. The women you describe are placeholder types to me, don't know what they are called, maybe 'alternative' types, not for HV…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 07:02 PM
2

Based on what? All I see is western counties in relative decline under a sea of debt and degeneracy. Under traditional values the USA and UK which were the last dominant two counties/empires both have declined.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 05:39 PM
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Cant be that good if he's resorting to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 11:08 PM
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I'm well aware, the debating point is what point it is considered a life.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 01:34 AM
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Nope all men are created equally, one cannot kill another.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 01:00 AM
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So they should, its not a federal issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 11:35 PM
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Its almost like pre Uncle Sam propping up the situation, that never used to happen, because it creates the moral hazard by doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 11:32 PM
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Virtue is a female responsibility, men can only be slut makers.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 11:30 PM
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Yes yes, it might not have also occurred to you also that someone people; perhaps crazy to your mind, also argue that the foetus- a specific scientific word which is used, rather than an unborn infant, to disconnect people from that, also might have rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 11:29 PM
2

I agree with all those points, other than being funny, you are not a clown, that is not masculine energy that gets women hyper moist. No great male icons are ever 'funny'.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 09:57 PM
2

Id swap being a 10 looks to being 5 average for 10 game, rather than 10 looks and 5 game. Anyone who's spent enough time running game seriously can verify that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 07:54 PM
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Well yeah, its not like men in the USA of bygone eras were not considerably more masculine than men today too, testosterone levels have been declining for decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/21 03:03 AM
0

Mans natural biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 11:11 PM
1

Cos you're a woman not a man. You wouldn't have sex with the same man 100 times? Of course you would, but men want to spread seed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 10:44 PM
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Nope its just that birds of a feather flock together in the modern era where we stay in social classes more, its only a more modern trend. HVM men have no need for a woman to be career orientated, since his income will more than cover them. A lot of HVM don't really have a clue how to manage women, and can still be shockingly bad fishermen and have no clue about the nature and types of women, I've seen plenty enough doctors getting screwed over by gold diggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 11:34 PM
1

Missing the point, rape fantasies are a result of the emasculation of men and no longer being in the presence of masculine men which was always the case up until about the 50's. Women are having the fantasies not men, and women watch BDSM, rape, gangbang, rough sex porn online etc at rates 150% higher than men, look it up if you want. The rape fantasies are by women not men, that is the overshoot from the emasculation of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 12:18 AM
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Its more common in recent times, not just for religious women, it has nothing to do with that. Its due to the feminisation of men and elevation of women, and women needing to know their place.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 12:09 AM
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Women are attracted to men they fear, you're trying to apply logic to billions of years of evolution, which might seem like a glitch in the matrix applying that to today. Its well documented that in times of war women are at their peak hominess en masse, the fear induced has been built in for the survival of the human race. This is why you have so many female prison guards fucking inmates too, who otherwise having never have been exposed to that, would probably have never behaved that way outsid…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/21 05:11 PM
1

wisdom v the arrogance of youth.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 01:11 AM
1

Best of luck when you mature.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 01:07 AM
1

Reflect in 15years, when you aren't a detective. That's when it starts to bite..
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 12:09 AM
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My secretary who has been with us 5 years wanted to become a detective. Its like people who watch CSI and want do that line of work, depending on country, there are often more universities than jobs each year for those posts, that's where we are. It has nothing to do with the subject specifically creating depression, its the fact that those men have a higher opinion of themselves that they should of their education, and then end up in menial jobs more often than not. Suicide is a result of perso…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 11:23 PM
1

All that time of pointless study to do something that you'll never need lol. Like we never had a decent police force or there are no great writers who didn't go to uni. Maybe the harsh reality will hit you in 15 years from now. Men with no defined clear career objectives in non degrees have the highest suicide rate later on for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 10:58 PM
2

Yeah, I've never understood the whole duck lips hair extensions girls on the arms of sports stars types who get a lot of media attention, and they are mouthy bitches too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 10:45 PM
2

Pre selection is massive, amongst my professional friends who were good with women before they got married, all said with a ring on they got nothing but more women trying to make a pass at them. Even with a girl you're just about to date, I like to throw in something like, "I'm just having a glass of wine with a friend, and then meet up with you later" indirect implications like that are all good.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/21 04:51 PM
1

Right, the same way a very few women make millions on Only fans. There go my aspirations of being like Arnie as Mr Universe. People should not be valued for talentless content wasting time- arbitrary.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 06:47 PM
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Yeah, but you can also make a million dollars being an air head wack job like Pewdie posting horseshit all day. Its an over rated issue, feminism and women going into bed easily opened Pandora's box.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 06:41 PM
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You act like the entire planet watches only fans, when really its just a small number of simps. Porn or no porn, feminism and modern women being easy sluts would still make men thirst, because its out there and available.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 04:57 PM
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Its doable if you can get her swinging from the lampshade, like she's never swung before.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 08:45 PM
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No basis in biology. They just like a bad boy cos he's a rule breaker and not nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 08:37 PM
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I don't believe that's a thing. That is usually a woman finding a man who's the best she can expect to get from her current opportunities, and looks to try and improve him so she can live her best life. Ideally she would just have a man who is already continually going to improve her life. There is no possible biological reason women would innately look for DIY men projects.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 07:16 PM
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Same reason there's so many female prison officers fucking inmates. Women get aroused by men they fear.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 05:50 PM
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Its not that. When most men go to date or approach women they send what I call the 'concierge version' of themselves, what OP alludes towards. You are not there to pander a woman's whims, she is there to be led.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 05:10 PM
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Missing the point, as standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 04:38 PM
6

Any studies looking at men shows their testosterone release after sex begins to decline at around 12 months, so that testosterone that's being held back will make him aggressive for a new mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 02:36 PM
1

Never ever do that, wait a week, at least and you can drag a fuck buddy out for a few months, compared to a woman that will never text you back. Stop using logic on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/21 10:22 PM
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No evidence for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 04:50 PM
1

Only a billion years of evolution, and using logic plus woke, to work women out 🤦‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 11:43 AM
1

Maybe the 80's emerging from never ending of recessions, which led to a reassertion of self confidence and optimism. Going back to the 50's you'll have all the women complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 12:08 AM
2

Female emotional intelligence to determine who and where you are in society is like 99% higher than men's.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 04:03 PM
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You can be as dull as fuck, no charism needed, only a masculine frame gets women hyper moist.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 09:21 PM
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Average guys can be put into a boy band, given a trendy hair cut and clothes, and once you get the pre selection going, its a sluts conveyor belt for them. A mans attraction to a woman is irrelevant of her status.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 05:02 PM
0

Guardian oh dear. Read some Mises, or Thomas Sowell and unplug from the matrix.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 08:20 AM
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Yes, started in Japan. Its what happens when the size of the state and its spending sucks the life of of mans advancement in life, he will lose his rigour, and live as a beaten animal cowed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 11:21 PM
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Socialist woke, there is no such thing as a finite pot or pie of money. You should look at the consequences of reckless government spending, inflation, size and growth of the state, sucking the life out of the productive sector of the economy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 11:19 PM
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Only to an extent, most women remain reserved in terms of going out of their way to avoid n count detection. Slut shaming is still very real in that sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 04:29 PM
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Just a zero missing out at the end. 🤪
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 04:26 PM
1

Yes that's why its so futile for men, women won the end game, women are more evolved in this aspect. It is still true though, women just won the arms race in this regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 10:09 PM
1

That's what feminism will do for you. Pre the sexual revolution, slut shaming was very real.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 09:52 PM
2

No because bigger balls get in the way and are more likely to get damaged. To quote from sperm wars. "Differences in testes size is genetic. Small testes are a handicap for sperm warfare, yet are less likely to get damaged. Men with larger teste produce more sperm and are more likely to be unfaithful. They both do equally well in their reproductive success. Men with average size testes employ a mix of strategies. Testis size not only varies within a population but also between a population. " " …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 09:49 PM
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Your 'tribe' logic is too recent. Men fought to death to fuck the hareem. At no point have men or ever will rationally allocate their own resources to another's child. We are evolved from billions of years not your blink of an eye depth of history.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 07:50 PM
1

Some people get an easier ride in some areas of their lives in any aspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 07:30 PM
2

No I mean her best strategy for genetic variance and security is to find a monogamous man, maybe have a child with him but also cuck him in slut ways from other offspring that are not his, to increase and improve that genetic variance. Women would never have evolved for casual sex, no male would ever commit. A lone female lion with cubs usually has them killed by the new mate, that is what happens in many primates, women can never waste that amount of energy and resources, a male protectorate is…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 07:02 PM
1

I got through 3 girls in one day at my peak. It was when I was fully career focused and spending then 4 hours gaming at the weekend, women sense men on a purpose. Don't buy those fake profiles made, very embellished.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 06:58 PM
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I'm average face looking with a pretty jacked physique, and its worth my while doing OLD. I just make the best of myself. And before I got jacked and didn't do much OLD, I got 5 times more pussy from cold approach, because I allocated that time to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 06:52 PM
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Cos men are going after short fat balding women? I'm not denying you should make the best of yourself. I'm just saying all these guys who get 100 matches a day are elevated through OLD when average guys get scraps compared to what they should.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 06:33 PM
1

Its a 'settled for' arrangement.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 06:20 PM
0

Game is real, tried and tested. Black pills go off in the wrong track because they use OLD data, which isn't how a woman operates in cold approach. OLD forces women to make bad decisions they wouldn't otherwise make.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 06:02 PM
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A funny guy does not get a woman red hot wet compared to a masculine guy. - Levels.
/r/seduction06/01/21 05:57 PM
1

The other point is, you'll never have a 'proper' girlfriend or wife. What you'll get is a 'settled for woman', assuming you luckily just navigate not having to put up with a very manipulative woman, because she was one of your few choices and don't know any better . I have been 360 degrees as a man, from beta behaviour to masculine, back to beta and now back to masculine. I can assure you, the only way you get a woman smitten with you, that gets to be her best feminine state is in the masculine …
/r/seduction06/01/21 05:53 PM
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Yes that's why its so futile for men, women won the end game, women are more evolved in this aspect. It is still true though, women just won the arms race in this regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 05:44 PM
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Its nothing to do with that, its just women are evolved to be sluts on occasion to improve her genetic chances from her offspring, nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 05:30 PM
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Yes the penis is a plunger, but this is like at least early 90's knowledge. You should read 'Sperm wars', which was written around that time, which went into all this. Most people think that all sperm is just there to chase the egg, it isn't, only a small percentage of it is, 99% of a man's sperm exists simply to fight off all other men's sperm; a lot of it there to do things like attack other foreign sperm, some lay down toxic chemicals to kill other sperm, and other to throw other sperm off th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 05:27 PM
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Different women are different sizes; length and girth accommodation. I've met 20 year olds that have no children that are like a sausage in a washing machine.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 08:38 PM
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I don't think anyone has ever said obese single mothers have those standards, but that's a fuck lot of booze you'll have to put in me to get me to go there.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 07:44 PM
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The other one which goes under the radar is 'you're handsome', that's basically a way of saying you're non masculine and unthreatening to me, its like appreciating a choir boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 07:39 PM
1

My game regime was always lunch time 12 until midnight, and then I was done, if it is just for that purpose with no drinking or maybe a couple of beers at best. Although when I was just with by general drinking buddies, hanging out, getting drunk and going to nightclubs, I had just as much success with ONS sluts, that just appear towards the back end of the night. My rule is, if you can do cold approach in the day sober, then its perfectly reasonable to then be able to OLD and drunk approaching,…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 07:07 PM
1

You'll find that even STEM degrees at random small universities are better than at the 'elite' universities, because the ranking system is so bulked towards 'research' by the tutors, and fuck the actually teaching, that's why small universities that most people never heard of have far better academically gifted people who attain better. People go off names.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 09:45 AM
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Men spending one day as a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 09:26 AM
1

There's a famous video called 'Mrs Hands' if you Google it, but probably illegal to watch in most countries, if you actually want to see what that looks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 08:00 PM
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1) 99% of women don't operate on that logic. 2) No man with good game ever goes around bragging about or discusses conquests, so you'd never know.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 06:30 PM
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100%, because it requires good game and knowing makes women tick, keeping her in a state that she is always trying to be her best feminine self.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 06:21 PM
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Men can only be slut makers
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 06:19 PM
1

And also this
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 04:19 PM
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Things go in cycles. I suspect the hoe phase that a lot of women go through today, they will look back on and bring their daughters up differently, but that's not our era so enjoy the sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 09:48 PM
1

I agree, if you're not getting laid that's not red pill, that's cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 03:23 PM
2

Who's the father now you're cucking Mr Drgree?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 03:18 PM
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What Mrs Drgee uses at the weekend 😁. And wtf is that keyboard, are you onboard the starship enterprise ?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 03:03 PM
1

There would be nowhere near the number of single mothers today if they were stigmatized as they used to be,.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 09:50 AM
0

Hot guys- Your words, same with chad, implies the same. Your opening is way too direct for most occasions, also have to assess body language and voice tonality if it never worked.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 09:31 PM
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Then your game was rubbish, women are half as obsessed about looks as you claim. The beauty of cold approach is that its a glitch in the matrix, she has no idea who you are, what you do, and she's already bought into you if done correctly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 07:39 PM
3

Jay always said that the difference as to why he has literally no injuries and Ronnie is because of bar work, he cut out squats. I'm doing the same and do much less bench pressing, you end up putting way too much through your shoulder unnecessarily, you can hit those muscles other ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 01:41 PM
1

I prefer Lee Priest and Jay, but we are splitting hairs for something that isn't going to be happening to you or me. I like to add Lee, just because he's 5'4.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 01:33 PM
1

Your premise is incorrect, healthcare is not a right, tonally arbitrary, hence we can no longer proceed.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 01:29 PM
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Lol, easily achievable for your casual gym goer, eating nothing but chicken and broccoli. Its amazing how him and Ronnie look so average now they're retired and come off gear and aged.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 01:25 PM
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You should have added Brad Pitt as Tyler Durden. There's also a big jump between Eddie Hall and Michael Phelps, Eddie Hall is 15 years commitment to every type of steroid and growth hormone possible, gym for 4 hours a day eating a small elephant for breakfast, totally impossible to achieve naturally. Prime Mike Tyson is what I try to hover around, which is in-between those two, you need some mass. Unless you're wandering around topless 99% of women will never notice a slim athletic body.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 01:03 PM
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Most men are oblivious to sluts, totally, they don't come with a barcode on their head. All women run the risk of being fuck zoned going into bed too easily, even if she breaks her rules for a HVM she's trying to pin down, and not normally a slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 11:17 PM
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You really don't need to be as looks maxed as possible, aka Leo DC, women don't care that much most of the time. Unless you are going to get noticeably bulked that you can see in clothes, most women don't notice, just don't get noticeably fat. You don't necessarily need to fuck good, but it helps if you want her to come back again, and also not necessary to be manipulative, just not doing 'nice guy' things like blowing up her phone and validating her are not manipulative.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 05:37 PM
2

Its only amongst the small but highly concentrated feminist movement predominantly that this notion of 'toxicity' comes about.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 12:27 PM
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Usual rule for men; divide by 5, women times by 2 or whatever. Also, I think think this is like the billionaires and millionaires problem when estimating the average nation income, its significantly different compared to the medium, since those at the top- movie, music sports stars, can easily hit the 1000 mark, and drag out the average.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 02:26 AM
1

Na, cos I worked all over the country. It says more about the broader decline of American education when chemistry and econ require so little rigor. But pushing out horseshit papers on Jewish studies for the vast majority of people is wasting their time and money.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 11:25 PM
1

I'm sure there are other BS degrees, I'm focusing on most liberal arts degrees which are horseshit and contain a lot of women, and why they fit into the slut category so highly as a broad trend. You can cruise through them, I've lived with these people and met them. These are only broad trends in terms of promiscuity. As a woman, its highly likely you wouldn't understand, a fish trying to understand why certain things are to a successful fisherman wouldn't be, and why so many men's ONS and slut …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 09:51 PM
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Its about purpose and focus in life. I'm not saying there aren't people who do phycology degrees and actually go off to use them, most however do not, most people at universities shouldn't even be there, so potter through it, and spend most of their time socialising, and cruise through to get an easy piece of paper. That makes up most, but not all, the trend is very real. There is a reason why this makes up most men's ONS during that time there. Women studying medicine and engineering almost nev…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 08:41 PM
1

Not 'usually' some. Most liberal arts degrees have the same value as toilet paper and most don't go off to then work in that field after completion which is the broad trend, in the same way it is just the broad trend that those women tend be sluttier because of that, and it is that particular group.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 03:59 PM
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It really depends on your upbringing a lot of the time. I'm pretty damn middle class, my fiends are too all law, dentist types, confident with women high n, none of those married will ever cheat on their wives, its just not done, they know their women and type when ready to settle down. There are for the sake of pc those men who are of not white origin who's only intention is to get a woman pregnant and move on to the next, that is just their culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 08:21 PM
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Not being able to control yourself is like getting fat. Having a conveyor belt of women available and turning it down isn't even remotely comparable. There's an easy argument to be made that it could go either way, low n men have so little action in their lives they can succumb to temptation easier, whereas higher n man can happily retire from their fill after getting married.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 08:09 PM
1

BS, entirely possible. It just doesn't happen a lot because outside here its just not in people's minds. I say this in the context of low n rather than virgins, because that's nearly always religiously linked these days and I can't see any man who isn't that way inclined to go that way, framing it to virginity is a bit extreme rather than low n.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 08:06 PM
-1

You'll make the perfect settled for woman at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 04:41 PM
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Personal opinion is that liberal arts type degrees girls get the highest n counts. Professional women have the lowest n count, but to me that is often a double edge sword, because they can never be feminine enough, you can't have a woman bossing men around all day and think that she can they also be a loveable kitten to you, they have to be put back in check too often. My personal preference of the perfect woman is the Catholic lite type girl that works in a professional environment such as a le…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 04:32 PM
1

Well yes most PUA's admit that their success rate like this is low, and I also found that. Approaching moving targets has to be the worst possible way to meet women. Indirect openings in a socially savvy way, in a store, just happened to be sat down somewhere, just anything else that allows a 'serendipitous' (in her mind) chance encounter is better, improves my success rate by like 90%, ridiculously different.
/r/seduction25/12/20 09:21 PM
3

But you'd happily bang a different woman every day if you could?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 01:07 PM
1

Those poor easy sluts opening their legs so easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 01:02 PM
3

Only on OLD, not in cold approach. OLD distorts female behaviour because its all they have to go off. Nothing to say that these guys actually get laid, or the women don't go on a first date and leave disappointed. In short, its a rubbish tool for women, and unfair to men. If you can't get regular dates using OLD, stop using it and go back and hunt in the wild, all animals adapt to their habitat.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 01:02 PM
1

The most ridiculous cause correlation argument ever. Its also problematic because at the far end of the spectrum, you could say if I fuck a different woman every night instead of getting married I would live longer? Er no, there are a billion reasons why that's such statistical junk, ranging from just general life expectancy things too. Black males live on average 10 years less than white males, and white male Mormons live a further 10 years on top for example, want to know which group 'happens'…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 08:44 PM
2

I'm at the perfect age pre dating apps being huge, and now, the guys getting no pussy then we're getting no pussy after. Most casual sex is usually done out of lust drunk or a 'quickie' affair moment, so it stands to reason on the sexual satisfaction scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 08:40 PM
1

I don't believe MGTOW advocate full monk mode, they approve of sex but she does not get to live with you, or you with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 03:45 PM
1

Some women do have pretty solid rules, so its just not always the case. I don't know what the breakdown would be, but most women on OLD 18-35 I find are at peak slut behaviour and should go into the sack in 3 dates, that with bar sluts you just meet and take back home there and then. On dead bedrooms- Excluding the menopause, but I've never experienced this because I'm nowhere near those women's ages, her attraction only fades for you because you allow her to get too comfortable in the relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 11:55 PM
2

So there is no such thing as a shit test in your mind?
/r/seduction21/12/20 11:58 PM
2

er.. no, you should know it. You always play to lose, knowing that 95% will never tolerate it before she gives up and leaves, its really just friends with benefits terms, and you should be seeing other women too in your rotation, as they come and go.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 11:03 PM
2

lol too much info.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 10:00 PM
5

If you're going into a relationship it becomes a purple pill. You can go out on dates with her, but she never gets to live in your house, that's the point you go purple assuming you maintain all other red pill values.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 09:48 PM
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Women just out of relationships are usually what l call 'distressed assets' , who become an 'accidental' ONS.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 09:46 PM
5

Not all women go for the modern trans look.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 04:35 PM
5

Depends for what purposes. Under the influence any studies show men have the ability to lower their standards to zero, if its there and then.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 04:03 PM
1

lol or just don't grip.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 01:48 AM
0

Yeah they should ignore that advice, I certainly don't want a coached fish, I want her to naturally fall into her subservient feminine frame.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 12:47 AM
0

A fisherman doesn't take advice from a fish.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 09:06 PM
2

If your life is on point a woman falls into her natural subservient feminine frame, and wants to please you, shouldn't be a case of having to push her in any direction in that sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 04:39 PM
2

Yeah, blame the media, its called 'missing white woman syndrome', since they get massively massively more media time relative to the actual story of one person when it happens, I mean 3,700 people die on the roads every day but nobody ever thinks twice about getting in the car. The woman going on a date with a potential murderer that dies in a car accident wont make the local press, the woman that goes missing for 2 weeks, then its national news forever the longer it goes on. Its definitely a ne…
/r/seduction20/12/20 02:28 AM
2

So how do I approach a woman in bar that's initially quite hostile to me, but I plough through her shit tests and manage to take her home, if she wasn't attracted to me from the start? I agree with his advice on time scales too, there's a big difference between being seen as what I call 'a settled for guy' that she will take in that moment, and the same woman that is smitten with you. There are specific reasons why it should be done. You can definitely lose women by over texting and texting wome…
/r/seduction20/12/20 01:40 AM
1

Also note the use of the word 'foetus', its deliberately used to disconnect people's minds from something living deliberately, that's why it had to be used.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 01:18 AM
1

All of those things can be done without state intervention and always at better value.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 01:08 AM
3

Within the 'middle class' bracket. Yeah sure I could just say the favelas in Brazil where nothing but a kill count of 100 and a face tattoo makes you alpha, or just US ghetto areas, but not including them. You might have to give me an example for clarity; where for instance a guy you dated and didn't get any pussy as you walked away from him, and then he sent you angry messages after... that is what 'nice guys' do for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 04:31 PM
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Different men have different preferences, some can be generalised amongst groups; like why black dudes date tonnes of white women, but not the other way around. Slim model types are my LTR women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 03:42 PM
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90% of men are 'nice guys' at least, its just ass holes trump 'nice guys'. For middle class women it goes good guys, bad guys nice guys last.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 03:38 PM
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I think we are speaking semantics, just sounds like masculine big dick energy. Seduction and romantic are very different in my mind and should not be mixed in that context. Romantic to me means flowers nice guy. I think my definition is more common parlance. I don't think 'romantic' and players who bed women at ease should be mixed, just because its getting you wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 07:26 PM
1

"A lot of players and romantic men just relate to women very romantically and sexily and cant help but give off the impression something more will come." It doesn't stack up, because that's 'nice guy' behaviour, women hold off on giving up easy sex for those type of men for her to be pumped and dumped. And no 'player' who is forced to wait like even a month for sex would do that, because its not worth his time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 05:53 PM
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Normally I agree with you, but its way off. Aint no good player coming out with some nice guy lines like that, its an incoherent position, 'love bombing' or whatever, is literally the worst game ever. Sure I think those greasy hair Italian type men behaviours worked once, and he gets an easy girl into bed on a bad day after 1000 attempts because it's all he knows, but I'd rather play than lottery than that working.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 05:42 PM
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No such thing. No man who is getting regular sex from different women is bedding women at ease under some pretence of a "promise that there will be more commitment than is being genuinely offered". That is nice guy, 'lets be friends' at best answer from the woman. I don't know what time scale we are going to put on it, but lets say arbitrarily anything under a month of seeing her before bed is not pump and dump. Men don't invest that amount of effort just for that... the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 05:35 PM
3

Yeah I think that will happen too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 04:51 PM
3

Its the west becoming the same as Japan basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 11:48 AM
1

I see it, but only in very limited areas. Aristocrats in England is a good example, men in their 50's with women hitting 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 11:54 PM
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Edited yes Eastern. Sex tourism to Brazil and black men is huge.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 11:41 PM
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You have heard of South America right? Brazil. Many men go on holiday there, find a woman stay in contact meet up a few times before bringing them back to the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 11:32 PM
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It's already happening, look at stats on American men with south American women, or Western European men with Eastern European women. It's as much to do with seeking a more traditional woman for men. It's a natural rebalancing as more professional women reach higher places in the workplace and men don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 11:30 PM
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BS. Most high profile sports and movie stars have a conveyor belt of women, you just would.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 11:44 PM
1

Yes, but he deals with that internally, he certainly wouldn't be getting emotional with a woman about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 02:04 PM
1

Trt use is readily available for men, not expensive. Yeah I googled 'Halle Berry no makeup' it was quite shocking.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 10:06 PM
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I agree it will be filled with assholes, but not for this reason. It's pandering to woke snowflakes, degenerate trans ideology, and fucking junk science and global warming. The whole bad boy asshole thing has been around for ages, and you don't even need to be that, just be masculine, the James Bond type frame is just masculine, and will attract pussy, it's really more about not putting up with her bs, not failing shit tests, you do not need a motorbike and leather jacket. Most men are just tryi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 06:19 PM
1

Yeah I'm saying men can hold off the aging look, and usually look a billion times better than women with cosmetic work, even with botox. Most women look horrific. Google Mike o'Hearn for maxing yourself out at 51.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 03:35 PM
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Maybe all part of the bigger plan, a load of emasculated men that eventually get hooked up into the Matrix, and they can live their best lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 09:01 PM
2

AIDS was mostly from gay men. There was no hookup culture back in the 70's anything like now, mostly just women running around with their jugs out attention seeking, very much over stated.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 08:32 PM
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You really don't have to do that much to get women into bed these days, stop complaining. Also it wasn't men encouraging women to slut about, that's feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 08:28 PM
2

Hair transransplant at the extreme end which are near unnoticeable these days, or shave it off. Sure a shaved head will disqualify you from some women, but certainly not all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 08:24 PM
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The simple answer is it's all relative. Yes no man here has the pussy puling status of a Hollywood movie star, where women line up on a conveyor belt. But in your own habitat, you have that persona of successful man and even are successful relatively, you can date women much much younger, a woman's smv can only decline however because the sexes value different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 08:19 PM
1

No they still jump on me. Thats the bs we have to go through walking back to the house.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 08:15 PM
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Cos all they know is OLD.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 12:34 AM
1

I use science and evolution instead of disconnected story telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 07:27 PM
0

See my post, its about being a don't fuck with me bad guy, nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 07:07 PM
1

Fuck all to do with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 07:00 PM
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Simple reason- Anxiety. In times of war women en masse are also at their horniest.. ever. Its a glitch in the matrix designed from evolution for the survival of the species to replicate, you'll also find that the number of cases of female prion guards fucking inmates is also high. Same reason for the old adage of 'why women don't like nice guys', and they need to shit test you. Same reason you get 15 year old boys who no doubt have some preselection from being chased by a tonne of girls and is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 07:00 PM
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Disagree on 1st; most women on an ONS only see you as an alpha validation lay, never to be seen again even when she tells you the next morning "You better call me back". It's just her anti slut defence, so she doesn't mentally have to accept responsibility for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 06:33 PM
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Doesn't work like that. I think maybe 20% of women I'm bringing back from a first date will tell me "We are not just having sex, or I am not just having an ONS". And 100% of the time those damn legs are opening up. The fact its in her mind means it is definitely happening. And you certainly aren't going to get laid telling a woman about blah blah "not your backup plan". You just don't put yourself in that situation. Yours is the most standard logical male argument, that has no basis in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 03:59 PM
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Nope, only women to blame, men can only be slut makers, bring back slut shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 03:53 PM
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The point about her leaving; is that nearly always in said previous bygone eras the name on the house would be the mans, he would own it, and significantly out earn the women, so she would have to leave, and get nothing... that is the point. Not interested in personal stories, that's why we use data and facts. Absent fathers are massively on net a huge issue, well outweighing any bad father parenting stories, the same way anyone can be murdered.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 02:31 AM
-1

The woman could always go off and live with her parents. Modern women get too mouthy too easily, and plus the issues of fatherless children are far far worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 10:32 PM
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It was never an issue in bygone eras when the man nearly always earned far higher multiples than the woman, its only an issue the other way around, women cant respect that, its not their nature. The male CEO can still happily marry the secretary, but never the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 09:47 PM
0

On net balance I'd say absent fathers etc it works out far worse for all, those numbers are pretty low, and it stops women getting mouthy and unruly. Women are more likely to be killed now probably because of her settlement money, and in the past women killed because it was her only option instead of being thrown out of the house.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 08:37 PM
4

Like there's any 'tricking' and as if that 'nice guy' behaviour actually works, that they go around telling women how amazing they are and want to spend the rest of their lives with them, and you can get a 100 n count from that.... Not happening. The only time I ever see overly romantic OTT gestures as common practice is amongst Italian men as a group and I haven't seen a single woman fall for it. Yet I can take the same girl out for a handful of drinks and ONS her. lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 04:41 PM
-1

Always comes back to time into bed. You should always be letting the woman do around 80% of the talking discussing herself. That ' pretend they are interested ' is just arbitrary. I would have had maybe 3 women into bed if I'd stated upfront that I'm am just trying to ONS fuck them or put them in a rotation on a 3 date rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 02:20 PM
4

No such thing as pump and dump. Usually applies to women in their 20's who go into bed easy, then when they hit 30's and are looking for marriage then complain when the same tactic doesn't work, just because they've made that switch in their heads. There was no relationship to 'dump'.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 02:09 PM
0

*for women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 11:52 AM
3

Na, cos I don't have this 'problem' and have no need to whinge.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 11:13 PM
1

You wanted to know how you reduce the numbers, I'm just telling you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 11:12 PM
2

Well people did use to abstain pre marriage so its feasible. But no, I guarantee that the number of cases where the guy had to take her out, wine and dine her for a minimum of 3 months, she never went back to his place alone before then, the number of cases would be near zero, only happens because most women are so easy into the bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 11:07 PM
4

Er no, this is not a counselling session, I'm just telling you what is happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 11:04 PM
1

Those are nerd shoes, lol. Buy a suede Cuban heel shoe and then a increasing insole as I do. Since you used Asos
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 11:02 PM
5

You're' clearly just trying to 'nice guy' justify hanging out when you were going for fucking. You cant use "how attractive I found her and because I enjoyed our conversation so much I decided to pursue her" and then claim that, and no guy just 'hangs out' with a broad for the sake of it. Nice guys don't get pussy, and here you are complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 10:55 PM
0

Easy, go back to the old conditions that no court would entertain the idea a woman was raped if she knowingly and willingly went back to a mans room alone, problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 10:51 PM
1

All feminism, and the emasculation of men and elevation of women. We sacrifice lives and security so women can be police officers, be in the army and work in prisons etc. Check out the number of women that end up fucking prisoners for example, they cant be in that environment and didn't used to be for a reason. Same for both sexes in inappropriateness.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 10:42 PM
1

Hardly, the dictionary definition of a slut only applies to a woman for a reason, men can only be slut makers. A stallion, or stud applies to males. Its only deluded modern day feminism that thinks it can take an ideological position against that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 05:22 PM
19

Exactly, there's a photo below on that thread of selena gomez filtered to fuck, like it isn't obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 04:27 PM
6

Half the women using either dating apps or pretty much any type of profile picture have filters to make them look younger and go out of their way to make sure all the lighting is correct with the correct pose etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 04:26 PM
1

I've been asked once, by a lesbian on a rogue night since they don't take the pill, that is it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 10:28 PM
1

Because you're obsessed with looks, which is skewed by OLD data. Outside of being famous, and OLD, women take big dick energy first. Many women do make the first move, as far as possible in making come over here signals. Leaning back in her chair with a back arch, pulls her her back, like she's pretending to do her hair, accentuating her breasts is my favourite
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 02:42 PM
0

Outside of the religious sectors I think it'll be a mix bag. Guys who never had any success with women will always be tempted by the next one off chance he can get with a woman because he never had success with women, then there are guys who never had any intention of being faithful, and guys who fucked around who know what they want in a woman, and will LTR marriage when they find that perfect girl for him. So take your pick out of all that. All comes back to modern women being too easy into be…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 01:56 PM
1

There's a lot of horseshit that didn't happen before women were given any power.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 11:02 PM
1

Women can give you all the BS they want. Why do you think lipstick will only and has only ever been popular in shades of pink to red, what do you think that is reminding men of, and as for 'the wet look' well.... I can't possibly guess. And no woman is comfortable in heels, its there to accentuate the breasts and bottom, but we'll be here all day, going through them all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 10:58 PM
1

You think hookup women require protection, or ever request it, fascinating. ​ Men are programmed to sow seed, with as many women as possible. Tedious.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 06:05 PM
1

Aside from being average looking women who think that they can just determine themselves high value, when the values they preach in self improvement are only attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 09:49 PM
1

Yes there are a lot of women who have low self esteem that are easy into bed, but women also try to bed down men they see as HVM quicker which they don't with others, which is where you get extra leverage.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 09:45 PM
3

Yes 3 dates max, 4 only if she's coming around that night. Then only seen casually after that until you give up.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 09:40 PM
1

Dumb, always be masculine, avoid praising or validating her as much as possible too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 06:48 PM
3

Agreed if it happens , but just always try not to be a woman and get emotional.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 05:48 PM
4

I think most women do it to test a man, to see if he lets his emotions out. At that point she knows his sperm isn't good for her, and will look to leave or cuck him.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 05:04 PM
6

Most women are instinctually disgusted with that, whatever you claim. In fact I'd go as far to say in every recent case I looked at where the husband described his wife as 'an emotional rock' type scenario, or to the like, it was nearly always the case in these weird scenarios where she as a teacher cheats on him with a 15-16 year old school pupil.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 03:16 PM
6

Women like masculine men, and men like feminine women, this is ground-breaking. Its almost like we aren't equal, and the current political correctness attempt to make us equal are utterly futile.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 03:12 PM
1

Most people did use to meet by all sorts of social gatherings and by chance encounters, it depends on your historical reference point, men and women used to have clearly defined roles and industries that they would mostly only work in. Within social circles works so well only because it gives you 'social proof', which cuts out upfront shit tests and the like, which most men fall flat on their face at.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 02:04 PM
1

Alleged victims, her version of events only.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 01:52 AM
1

Title IX specifically refers to programs that receive federal funding for education, this is the title of the topic, not 'arbitary'. Not denying those in family things and women attacked in a park alone, there is however hysteria amongst college girls and their behaviour on campus, this is the title of the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 01:44 AM
1

The question has nothing to do with 'other' rapes, we're specifically focused on modern college girls type cases, which make up the latest hysteria of the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 12:34 AM
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Yeah yeah slapping a girls bum is now sexual assault, tedious.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 11:05 PM
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No I mean she just feels cheap an used, a lot of women can't handle it when he isn't calling back. They wrongly get caught up in modern day slut culture which they were never able to mentally deal with. Not all women have a brazen truck drivers mouth like your good self believe it or not, and in other women it can actually just be maliciousness because he wasn't committing from an ONS, surprise surprise.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 09:52 PM
3

Back in the days of 'common sense' it would be totally inappropriate for any woman outside of wedlock to be with a man alone in a house let alone a bedroom, a plumber would not be allowed to come and fix a leak without the woman's husband present at least even, so maybe if we go back to that basis we can stop the BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 02:16 PM
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Yeah, but most cases are fraudulent.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 02:13 PM
2

You would think that after the Dukes case and being sued to fuck they'd learn, but meh universities are stuffed full of woke idiots. It's a police matter plain and simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 02:12 PM
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Doesn't mean he actually got the pussy though. And game is still important either way, look at how Mike Tyson got fucked over by women, no man would ever have looked him in the eye in his prime, yet women were more than happy to disrespect him, so anything outside an ONS you need game to keep her as a smitten woman that always looks to please you in every way possible way long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 12:58 PM
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Not interested in backwards spear throwing countries, a quick Google search will show you std's rising with sex ed. It's just common sense that you open up children's minds to the idea of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 08:43 AM
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So you claim, but all I see if female quotas and the emasculation of men. Even if they don't make it so in your face it's still very here today. Women can clearly take men to court quite brazenly for going back to a mans house they just met, and seriously want a court case, when that stops, which we aren't even close to, let me know. When I can slap the secretary on the ass I'll know all is well in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 01:06 AM
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Yes but it only blew up through the roof after the welfare state, there's clear correlation, same with sex education and std's, both creating the 'moral hazard' pre and post 1960's it is just very clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 12:00 AM
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Yeah but feminists will fight to the bitter end. Technically any nudes she sends you on something like only fans can be classed as private and you could in theory be taken to court. Personally I say all women outside marriage should be fair game if you want to get videos/ photos online.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 11:58 PM
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Any sane people hate those things mentioned too, and would if they could not pay tax for them either, just like single mothers, which is the point, but that wasn't the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 10:37 PM
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Funny how there was near no single mothers before you created the moral hazard of taxpayers subsidising it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 10:32 PM
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Other than the prison system which is a necessary evil, the others have no basis for state involvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 10:28 PM
9

That's a lot of LVM then.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 10:26 PM
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Your name might suggest why.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 10:26 PM
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Mostly its paying some form of tax to pay for their lifestyle choices, or because for any man of decency they are wasting their time when they don't let the man know upfront when they are trying to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 10:25 PM
3

No you just learn to take it out on a punch bag in the gym or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 04:51 PM
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Or just don't explode? Since that's entirely possible. Exploding would also count as being another type of emotion, hence not attractive. Just remain stoic and don't explode.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 04:08 PM
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Please, that was common sense behaviour well up until the 1950's at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 04:04 PM
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Nope, you wouldn't go to the secretary as the director to make decisions, same logic, you aren't fit, that's not her job.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 04:01 PM
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In under 5 mins to the taxi involve slightly drunk women when its shutting and I just met her, others in the pizza place after it shuts. Sometimes its just 2 girls we meet and I'm with another guy who knows what he's doing and we end up drinking together. Sometimes friends through friends, which is always useful because you get social proof. If its not logistical and I have to take her number, its drinks date plus a same date lay.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 02:11 PM
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If I had the option of being a 10 looks with zero game or being an 8 with 10 game I'd take that. No game means no pussy outside being famous.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 01:35 PM
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Most men dont look anywhere near as bad as Harvey, plus he was fat as fuck... that will never be attractive and a lifestyle choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 01:32 PM
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Women are totally fine with cold approach, it's just that it's done so badly by most men that is what they women reflect on, and the men are so bad they abandon it so soon. I think 50% of my lays are from women in bars, just because she's in the shop doesn't mean you can't skin a cat another way.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 01:26 PM
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You're seriously saying that what attracts men is the same for women? I can assure you it could definitely work the other way around. Why would you go out of your way to do something like learn the guitar to impress a certain type of woman for something that you wouldn't be doing anyway if you enjoy it, and when you already already pointed out " You ever see when guys get a crush on an average looking singer because her voice is amazing " ???
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 12:47 PM
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Well that's because its just one facet of what makes a good man. The main point for me of the whole passion thing, was that you are mission focused and never ever relationship focused.. that's her job.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 12:44 PM
1

It takes skill to be a high n man, nothing for a woman to open her legs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 11:24 AM
4

You have such a lady like demure and reserve about you, it must be your oozing femininity that did it for him. He's more tall like a twig.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 02:44 AM
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I'm going with- delusional and should be in therapy, we should have a poll.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 02:42 AM
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175lbs at 6.4 n doing pilates, that is one seriously mean rough dude, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 02:37 AM
1

keep your knickers on then.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 11:17 PM
2

If you look at any studies; even after a few beers, mens ability to drop their standards to zero for something that is right there and then is universal.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 11:16 PM
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You only get high n living by like a 3 date rule, you don't take her to hobby type events, no need to be discussing whatever horseshit you like, let the woman do 80% of the talking, you should always have an air of mystery about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 06:15 PM
0

It is amongst black guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 06:06 PM
3

No only shame women, men can only be slut makers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 05:54 PM
6

A woman that 'consistently bags' is just a hole for men, otherwise she wouldn't need to be consistently doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 05:45 PM
7

The other way around is BOBFOC Body Off Baywatch, Face Off Crimewatch. A person who possesses a killer body but has a face that only a mother could love. ​ But this is very English humour I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 05:43 PM
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Yeah, I ended up in a similar situation, and that was my ah ha moment too. But I disagree on average guys, they have approach anxiety and mostly remain totally clueless with women so avoid any conflict by avoiding them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 05:41 PM
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You're a guy fantasizing about being trans I swear.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 03:47 PM
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Lol, no it is not, that's why slut shaming is important. Men come to see women as the latest nice object to stick it in.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 03:43 PM
2

Yes they are, men get 'sick' when there's easy access to sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 03:34 PM
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Most men are beta weak and follow the woman's lead for sexual requests. And I can assure you your small searches out of 'curiosity' doesn't distort the data to any remote significance. My theory as to why it happens is because men are so emasculated today due to feminism, and women needing to know their place.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 01:49 PM
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girl fucking in the park at 14 and its the men who are sick... right. virtue is a female responsibility for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 12:20 AM
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Low self esteem women, but not all of them. You'll need to come across as confident and assertive for her to open up and request it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 12:02 AM
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Google "women watch more violent porn" they watch it at rates 100% higher than men, who do you think was going to watch and read 50 shades in their droves- men or women?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 11:57 PM
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Women who complain about that only happens because you go into bed too easy, and all the data shows that; violent, BDSM, gangbang, group sex, humiliation, rough etc type porn is watched by women at rates 100% higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 11:50 PM
2

3.5 is closer to average on that list whoever put it together, just some guys personal claim
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 11:46 PM
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Lol, no it is not, men are like 90% looks upfront. Grandmas a repulsive to any even half decent looking guy, but a female model will let a 90 year old billion fire his crusty old sperm up her. Women are biologically much more prone to seeking her best chance for her offspring at any cost. Men are repulsed by clearly eggless females for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 11:39 PM
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Lol, so obsessed, there are tonnes of self made millionaires in business who left school with nothing, maybe they were so smart they knew what they wanted in life so took the shortcut.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 09:50 PM
1

Funny how successful directors happily marry the secretary but no man would ever come out with such nonsense reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 09:48 PM
1

Google Mike O' Hearne, and tell me how old he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 02:54 PM
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Lol well so am I, and I live and worked and have dated women all the way from Scotland to Guernsey and Northern Ireland even... so beat that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 01:18 PM
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Well I'm also English so it's not some universal cultural thing, maybe you're younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 01:07 PM
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Single mothers need to stop wasting my time by not telling me upfront, its vile and disgusting that they think I'm that desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 01:03 PM
0

Dad bod, Leo D C has left the chat laughing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 01:01 PM
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Because if it wasn't congruent with the real world people would call it out as BS, a bit like 'woke' now, people are turning off when its not how the real world works.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 12:52 PM
2

France has no age of consent, it wont collapse because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 09:48 PM
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No she lied, and the judge wasn't fit for purposes
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 12:31 AM
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You could have chosen a better range of men, since those guys could be said to have issues. There are tonnes of Russian billionaires who get screwed over by younger models, and it's going to be the same with Jeff Bezos and his new plastic face arm piece. You either get women or you don't when it comes to their nature. Bezos is the best example, since he has the world at his feet, but his management of women is that of a 15 year old lusting boy. Leo DC is the only guy who gets full marks so far, …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 12:26 AM
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Might be a question of semantics, but I wouldn't class say someone like James Bond as a fuck boy. I consider fuckboys more like slick talking baseball cap wearing guys as fuck boys, who wouldn't be what women would class as 'relationship material'. Those guys I would say only have viability until mid 20's for most women, neither are they alpha in my mind, just slick talking and confident enough with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 11:12 AM
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Nope the vast majority of autism/aspergers cases are a result of tear away children for a lack of parenting or bourgeois liberal parenting. It's the latest BS that we have to tolerate that is now some great cause to follow. Lookism and dating is a separate issue and because of OLD.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 08:51 PM
1

Oh come on , they aren't even close to comparable, plus Sheeran is chubby, I was high balling him. The vast majority of women are not going to lie back on the bed with the vibrator out and dream of Sheeran .
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 06:41 PM
1

Fassbender and McGregor would only be considered close to a heart throb, or being sexually desirable (excluding status) which is the point, because they have very decent masculine jaw lines and face shape which pulls them through, but neither are what we joking call 'an offensive ginger' which is the more orange hair than red hair with a round face which is what Sheeran is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 06:34 PM
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I cant remember any hero or worthy protagonist that has ever been average build ginger and pale. You're tel;ling me good looking women were dating them before, I don't think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 06:14 PM
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Its almost like women value other things than men. They're funny creatures at times. If you had told me 15 years ago good looking leggy blondes would be going out with pale faced ginger guys, I would have laughed. But I'm entirely convinced its because of Ed Sheeran's appeal in this country, and it just does it for some women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 04:42 PM
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I'd say 50% of mine are women who've just had a breakup, she needs a validation lay which is what I mean from 'bad trauma', probably a bit excessive to use that word , more a nice vulnerable spot.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 12:49 PM
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If she's on the date with you, then its entire how you come across from that point (Very rare exceptions are free lunch girls). Again, so much obsession on looks because of OLD.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 03:07 AM
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Same, I'd go as far to say that if you hit her back up she's actually disappointed in you, and herself a lot of the time, for whatever reason if if blind look, she was in bad emotional trauma, she saw you as a one off alpha dick for her in most cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 02:50 AM
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