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Actually Objective means factual. If you're looking for what you described, that would be subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 03:06 PM
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Well I think your main problem is that you're asking for an objective answer to a question that is different for every woman and man. In the past you could give a general expectation of what a woman brings to a relationship, but since the playing field has leveled out it has become more of an individual basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 11:18 AM
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What's the point of dating if you're not thinking of marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 10:08 PM
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I mean, I agree with the last point. I'm not trying to tell people how to live, which is why I always seem to get hostile remarks when I tell people compatibility and love should be their top priority over all others. It always seems the most bitter that feel hostile towards my remarks (not you, just in general, you haven't been hostile at all). But it always seems the ones who married for shallow reasons always seem to fail the fastest. I mean, would you start loosing love for your mother if sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 02:45 PM
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I think there are some things that can be negotiable while other things should not be negotiable. And of course, what those priorities are is up to the individual. What I find is that if I try to work out the core issue with people, it's that we have become immovable, and our priorities are backwards. Shallow, meaningless priorities that even when met, fall apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 02:04 PM
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Well if you're going to use that comparison, then what I see in love is people refusing to work as an intern, even if it means their dream job in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 01:26 PM
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I think the biggest problem people have with dating concerning long term relationships is that we put the most important quality on the back burner: love and compatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 12:39 PM
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Well okay yeah, you're obviously better at summarizing. That's exactly what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 01:20 AM
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From my own anecdotal experience as a woman whose been married happily for 10 years now, I had slept with two other men before my husband. He's my third. I'm extremely picky when it comes to agreeing on sex, I was raised by an old school hooligan so sex before marriage wasn't discouraged, maybe you'd get to second or third base pretty easy if we click. But sex is for commitment, to me, so we're going steady or I'm probably not going there. My husband was the only and last exception, so I don't k…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 01:01 AM
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Precisely why I believe it's behavioural not biological. Of course to a certain extent it's always been the case that women needed a good man to help take care of her financially. Fathers used to discuss the terms of her marriage with the husband to ensure this, and the most recent left over culture is having the father's approval before marriage. Now that the woman has independence she is the one who must approve and no one else. But because women flooded the work force and America prioritized …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 11:36 AM
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If hypergamy is real I think the more interesting thing that comes to mind is what the point of marriage would be if anyone could leave for any reason. If we have this, hypergamy would be a biological sign that no one could be trusted and monogamy would be pointless. Except I'm not so sure humans are built this way, since our broods take 18 years to mature. Which leads me to think (if hypergamy is truly real) that it's behavioural, not a biological unchangeable truth. Vows hardly mean anything a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 01:22 AM
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Idk really how to respond to this. I look at porn with my husband. He saves stuff he knows I like and I'll do the same. Sometimes, in the beginning when we first did this, I would be sitting next to him looking at naughty things and would see a girl I thought was extremely sexy and get self conscious. But as time went on and we worked through those things it became apparent that I'm not being compared to these women (we also look at hentai so yeah that's not actually even real) and it's the act …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 11:36 PM
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When it comes to mothers in the US, the courts are very much in favor of them over the father. This is actually left over from our past when women were not allowed to work or vote. Some laws have been updated but as with most things it's a state by state issue. My agent also said she's dealt with birth mothers who would move to another state to insure the birth father couldn't intervene since some states are more favorable to fathers than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 01:39 PM
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It actually depends on the state you're in and the circumstances of the adoption. The courts are widely in favor of the birth mother, and in some cases the mother can give away full guardianship over to the father without child support from her. Especially if they are not married.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 01:34 PM
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So this is what my agent said. Sorry for the wait, my agent ended up calling me and we got into a huge conversation about it. So the laws are different for every State and in the state I live in there is a few things that can happen. If the father contests an adoption he would have to go to court. If he decides that he doesn't want the baby to be adopted then he would have to prove that he's a fit parent. If he can afford all of that, then from there the mother does have the right to wave her pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 01:19 PM
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Ok. Sorry for the wait, my agent ended up calling me and we got into a huge conversation about it. So the laws are different for every State and in the state I live in there is a few things that can happen. If the father contests an adoption he would have to go to court. If he decides that he doesn't want the baby to be adopted then he would have to prove that he's a fit parent. If he can afford all of that, then from there the mother does have the right to wave her parental rights and give full…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 12:49 PM
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Give me a few minutes. I'm literally going to text my adoption agent and ask her what the legalities of a situation like this is and see what she says. To my understanding, if the birth mother signs away her parental rights she is no longer responsible for the child. I don't think it matters if the person adopting the child is a relative or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 11:52 AM
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No. The mother doesn't pay child support when she gives her child up for adoption, regardless of who the adoptive parents are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 11:43 AM
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He can, and not only will he have to take a paternity test to prove so, but he will also have to adopt the baby if he sues. Which means that he will have to prove he is a fit parent. In these cases, the birth mother still signs away her rights, but the baby is adopted by the father. So it doesn't change the outcome of what the mother wanted, just who the baby goes to.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 11:41 AM
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In America if the father's name is not on the birth certificate then you don't need his permission to adopt the child out. I don't see why that should change with the machine.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 11:34 AM
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I'm a woman so I'll just respond here. But saying 'aren't I just creating more low value women by doing this?' is the wrong way of thinking about it. Women have agency and unless you are forcing yourself on her, it is her decision to up her count with you or not. I would say just be honest with these women, upfront about wanting something casual. From there it's up to her if she wants to continue.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 12:38 PM
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That's the thing, women don't agree with the fundamental tradition of marriage anymore, and that's exactly way even the concept of marriage is falling apart. But there's still a huge amount of us that like attention, and having a huge ceremony centered around you is a great way to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 10:21 PM
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Most men I know with that hatred towards women who are obsessed with height will say that 'this is coming from someone who is over 200lbs, and what's worse is that unlike my height weight can be worked on', not really seen people comparing heights directly like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:28 PM
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I do believe there is some objectiveness to beauty, but for the most part it is subjective. Also objectively ugly people still manage to find love sometimes, so even that doesn't matter much.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 04:27 AM
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(Read in an alabortate voice instead of the usual monotone way we read, as my inner head did upon reading this post) This would finally unite us as a people while thirsty men who were once mocked as 'incel' and 'virgin' will join with the bitter and angry women who were once labeled 'whore' and 'slut', and the political party known as the 'Democratic' party back then all took up arms, an act of defiance they were once against. And all marched in the streets with their booty shorts and regular un…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 01:19 AM
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I think it just has more to do with context. Sometimes it's appropriate to call a woman a female, mostly when talking about gender in a more professional or medical sense. Sometimes when men refer to women as females what it seems like they mean is to refer to us as little girls, which is disrespectful. But whether you get offended by it or not is up to you. For example, I grew up around mostly black people in mostly black neighborhoods. 'White girl' is as much of an insult as it is a descriptor…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 01:49 PM
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Like I said, adult. Over 18 and independent. If you're 18 or 19 and you still live with your parents I would say that's too young. If you're 19 or 20 and you've lived on your own before and understand what it's like to be an adult but are now living with your parents, then I don't think that's too young if you find a healthy loving relationship. If you're 17 or 18 and you think you've found the love of your life, then I would say to wait, move in with that person once you're old enough to do so,…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 10:08 PM
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Idk I'm not a liberal woman but it's not like I encourage women to get hitched young either. What I usually will advise is to not throw away love just because you think you're too young. Don't go looking for it, focus on yourself, but if love slaps you in the face don't just discard it because of your age (talking about adults here, anyone over the age of 18 who are independent). I got married when I was 20, to the man I've been with since I was 19. I know that statistics tell me my marriage sho…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 09:50 PM
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Yeah I agree with that to an extent. It really depends on who you're talking to though, every women is an individual and has different views and beliefs, if you stick by your beliefs then that is integrity. I do think men and women are equally as valuable, but I don't think being equal means we are the same. Women are not as physically strong as a man, but we can be independent thanks to our ability to work and earn our own livings. I think both men and women crave love and partnership, so in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 12:01 AM
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What exactly are you saying is hypocritical? Are men this way too? Because I don't think it's hypocritical for a woman to want a gentleman that will throw her down on the bed behind closed doors, just like I don't think it's hypocritical for a man to want a lady that will get on her knees behind closed doors.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 11:47 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 11:01 PM
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You can be a caveman in bed and still care about a womans pleasure. The most common fetish/fantasy women have is rape, and while that is fantasy for a reason (we certainly need consent), I think it is the aggression and dominance that most women crave from those fantasies. When a man is aggressive and dominate in bed that doesn't mean he's just jack-hammering it. I'm not saying that gentleness isn't appreciated either, but it feels more like the difference between fucking and making love.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 02:50 PM
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Personally I kind of think this falls parallel to the old saying, "we want a lady in the streets but a freak in the bed". Well, I think most women prefer a "gentleman in the streets, but a caveman in the bed".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 01:45 PM
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I agree with the virgin part. Obviously if she's a virgin she's holding out for either marriage or high value men who will commit. But for women who have low numbers, this can be for many reasons. Maybe she's just got high standards, maybe she only gives it up for LTRs or maybe she only gives it up to men she connects with and just by happenstance hasn't found many men who do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 02:24 PM
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Well thank you. No one is entitled to anything in life, and while I'm not worried about my husband cheating or leaving me if I gained too much weight, I know that if I did he would pressure me to lose it. As would I with him. It's not like his love is unconditional, but literally all I have to do is not cheat, and since I feel the same about him that's easy. Any other problems that happen, we can work through them because of the sole fact that we truly love each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 01:39 AM
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You sure you didn't mean 'men' of reddit? Lol. Boxer briefs please
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 12:23 AM
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Idk if I'm even suppose to answer the threads that say questions for men, but my husband is painfully honest and blunt with me. So from what he's explained to me: if a woman isn't willing to see your potential then why bother seeing hers? Now he comes from a very poor household and made a lot of mistakes growing up, one that cost him a shoplifting charge at age 18. So any retail, restaurant or jobs that required you to handle money were off the table. So for the most part he drove cabs and did c…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 08:30 PM
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Sex might not be the most important thing but it is important nonetheless, especially if you're in a relationship. Love > sex > > > > sexless marriage. Love is the most important simply for the fact that once you've grown old with each other and the lady bits don't get wet and the male bits don't get hard anymore (yeah there are ways to fix that, lube and the blue pill), what are you left with? Well if you started from a place of love then you've got your best friend. But I would argue that a se…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 01:32 PM
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Back in high school I went on a date with a guy I wasn't attracted to because of peer pressure and I could not even kiss him when he went for it. I felt bad because I know it hurt his feelings, but I just don't think romantic relationships can happen if there's not some kind of sexual attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 01:16 PM
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I mean if that's your experience I guess I can't argue. But maybe its just specifically leftist women on dating apps, because they are usually the women saying 6 figures minimum. In my experience its conservative women who will go for 30-50k earners because that's what they make too (or less in cases of the service industry).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 10:03 AM
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If you're making you're own living with ambition for more, no matter how small, that's not a NEET. And idk about that, most liberal people care more about how much a man makes in my experience. All the conservative girls I know that are married don't care as long as the man can support the house.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 11:57 AM
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Dating someone who likes you more than you like them will end up with you finding that person clingy or pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 03:11 PM
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Idk. Maybe mostly, but I just come from a poor family so for me I want a man who can relate to me. Ambition is what's more important, and I can live on very little. Money is only a problem when talking about kids, and kids don't have to be expensive. 40-50k salary is ideal with a secure life with kids, and many labor intensive jobs can provide that for a man. I also feel like, in my own anecdotal experience, that it's those precise men who are still marrying and having LTRs.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 10:09 AM
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Yeah exactly what I'm getting at. Don't settle, but if love hits you in the face don't turn it down just because you think you're too young or can find something better.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 02:25 AM
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The best advice I can give is that if you find yourself falling in love with someone and you start living together and that love is flourishing, don't just leave them because you want to 'find yourself' or 'play the field'. Leave because you're not working out emotionally, or leave because of abuse or because of infidelity, but don't leave because you're putting an age restriction on when you think or society thinks you should be falling in love. If you're an adult, and the love is there, what n…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 01:51 AM
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Yeah I certainly don't think I'm even what the majority of men would consider the 'ideal' woman, for sure. But to me it's not about what feels right, if you have certain standards and convictions that IS what is right to you. And when it comes to my life, what others think about it has never effected me outside of having less friends and becoming lonely. I'm not going to fake who I am and what I believe to fit in, even if it ultimately meant I'd die alone. But two things I've learned with the in…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 12:57 AM
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So the direction can only be there if it's backed by cultural norms? And I think most women nowadays would look at me and cringe for how I've been in my marriage. I've stuck by my husband through very tough times, because my love for him is more important than our temporary situations, and I know his love for me insured they were indeed temporary. I think the main problems today is definitely culture, as OP has said, but also that people stopped looking for true love and forgot what commitment m…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 12:41 AM
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Yeah that is true, I'm not encouraging people to go and get hitched. I'm just trying to see how there is a way to bridge that gap between the genders. I don't think I'm some special unicorn so there must be other women out there like me, who would fight and put in the work and not just bail out at the first sign of trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 12:32 AM
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Okay yeah I can get that. But 45% of women voting conservative (by OPs statement) is still a large portion of women who likely want nothing to do with modern culture. Basically Conservatism is actually the new counter culture, which I think is why you see more Zoomers becoming right leaning than you do Millennials. I definitely think OP is correct in saying culture being the biggest reason for the devide. And likely the only men still marrying and having LT healthy relationships are those with a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 12:21 AM
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Yeah but what do you even mean by AWALT? What are things that women do that ALL women do, or are you really just saying MOST with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 12:00 AM
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I feel like there was suppose to be an /s in there...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 09:27 AM
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I might get a lot of hate for this (from both sides) but fuck it, I'll put it out there. My husband struggled with depression, especially in the beginning of our relationship. A few things first, before I elaborate, I come from a very toxic household growing up (a rapist brother, look-the-other-way step dad, suicidal mother who wished she never had kids and that's just to sum it up) so I learned to deal with things with a lot less softness than most women, but also a lot more understanding, if y…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 01:06 AM
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That's kind of a difficult question unless you have specifics topics you want to talk about. Lol. Otherwise I could just go on.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 11:57 PM
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I view this subreddit as a place where men and women can come to talk about the current dating market without being chastised for having different opinions. I'm very well aware of red pill knowledge and agree with a lot of it, but I'm also in a very healthy marriage so this sub is the only place I can go to give out advice and talk about the current climate without being shunned for disagreeing or agreeing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 10:11 PM
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Because women don't want to be dependent and most women don't or can't work blue collar high labor intensive jobs that would also give them independence. I think that most people like to date within their same level of intelligence. That doesn't equate to education though. Becoming educated means to gain knowledge, but isn't directly linked to intelligence. Of course being an intelligent person means you can probably learn concepts much easier, but being able to memorize information also means y…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 04:12 PM
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Okay yeah it's definitely a generalization based on anecdotal evidence. I concede on that. You should parent both children like this IMO. My main point in that if you're worried about your sons ending up on two extremes, either 'pussies' or 'toxic', I think the best way to avoid that is to make sure the father stays in their life consistently.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 02:01 PM
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The difference is you're the father. Mothers don't naturally raise like that. In my experience most mothers are one of two extremes, they either coddle or they're heartless. And you know talking about the feminization of men, there's something going on today that has never been worse in our society. Divorce and single motherhood. The best thing you can do for your sons is stay in their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 10:00 AM
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Exactly this. If your son is crying because he fell down and hurt himself, you tell him to brush it off, you're fine. If he's crying because he just watched his dog get run over, you tell him that's it's okay, death happens, let it out. Like most things it's a balance.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 12:27 AM
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Okay yes I can definitely agree with that. I think the real problem that you're seeing is men who are jaded. I understand why they are, which is really what my original post was about. It's not an excuse for them, just an explanation. And I imagine that's how racist people might start off too, originally not caring, then it turns into hatred, and before long they're berating and judging based on something that tells them nothing about ones character. Same with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 10:06 PM
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I tend to avoid both all-female and all-male groups because they both get pretty toxic towards the opposite gender, and I'm not about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 09:12 PM
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Most of what I've seen is women in that group saying they deserve the top 1% of men regardless of whether they are in the top 1% of women or not. Definitely not traditional.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 08:50 PM
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The classification of FDS might be a new thing but the mentality of it isnt.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 08:44 PM
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No I'm saying they probably react that way because they've given up or just want casual sex as a reaction to dealing with those types of women. It's like they're either assuming all women are like that, especially when they're over 25, or they're only interested in engaging with the youngest hottest thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 08:43 PM
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Idk, I'd say it might just be a response to radical FDS types who would be the same towards any man who isn't 6", making 6 figures and handsome. Most of those men are done trying and just want to be left alone or are only looking for hookups because LTR aren't worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 08:39 PM
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I don't think it's really that big of a deal at all, the only problem I have is when women hit their 30s and complain that they can't find someone to settle down with in enough time to have kids. I especially see this kind of behavior in said women who really do want kids. I don't know where you got the 25 age from because that is definitely not post wall. Post wall is usually your years right before you're about to hit menopause. More like 32-35. But I will also say that no amount of statistics…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 05:49 PM
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I know some people aren't going to think of this as a problem, but for me it really is. Being in love makes me depressed. Maybe because I've dealt with death before, but this is on my mind a lot. I can't stop death, but if my husband dies I will literally lose the last of my family and the last person who could possibly understand me. I worry about his safety a lot, and he does with me too. I understand where he's coming from but a lot of times this ends up with controlling behavior from the bot…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 11:59 AM
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Well I thinks it's irrelevant in the modern sense. Women are starting to become more what we refer to as masculine, and men the opposite. I'm not sure why this matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 11:19 AM
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To give her the benefit of the doubt, I think what she might be getting at is that the differences are irrelevant. There are clearly biological differences between the sexes, this has been studied and even studies that seek to disprove this have been shown to inadvertently prove it instead. Whether it means anything at all is I think what the argument is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 10:39 AM
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So this might be a touchy subject but I'll go off. Some women don't care about size, some do. Maybe even most. Most women aren't going to measure your penis where you're in the middle of sex, but I think as long as she can feel it go in and hit her g-spot you'll be fine. Girth can also help. I'm still not sure whether penis length is purely genetic or has more to do with diet, but there's good evidence for both so I'd say it's a half and half thing. Now I don't think women get vagina envy, howev…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 10:32 AM
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Do you mean that there is no inherent behavioral difference, as in a boy raised as a girl will be every bit as feminine as a girl, or that the differences are irrelevant?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 01:41 AM
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Masculine is hard, dominant, and strong. Feminine is soft, submissive, and gentle.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 01:38 AM
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I don't think there's anything wrong with it, and maybe other relationships work better with different models, but I think the important thing in LTRs is mutuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 08:46 PM
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Maybe this is why in many religions it is seen as the man who is head of household and women who are head of children. Because I know many women who have and will lay down their lives for their children, but very rare that she will lay down her life for her husband. I know me personally I would lay down my life for my husband, but it is mainly out of selfishness if I'm being honest with myself. I would rather die and he be able to live than live my life without him, even though I know that act a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 07:26 PM
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Except you said before this that it is shallow if the reason you got to know them in the first place is because they're sexually attractive. I disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 07:16 PM
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That depends on if you're a sexual person seeking fulfilling sex in a relationship. If you're asexual, I could understand where you're coming from. Otherwise it's just wrong. It's not shallow to want a partner that you are attracted to. I would say it's shallow to /only/ care about looks or stay in a relationship that's not working out because of looks, but it is not at all shallow to include sexual attraction as a part of what you're looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 05:35 PM
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Pretty much what everyone is saying. Yeah personality is more important but physical attractiveness is what's going to get that relationship started. You at least have to have a sexual attraction to them or the relationship isn't going to last. This doesn't mean you have to be a 10/10 to have a relationship, it just means you have to be attractive, and that is subjective depending on who you're asking. My husband is not a 10, neither am I, but he's got a handsome face and a lovely beard with bea…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 04:03 PM
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Statistically speaking this is probably very true, but maybe has more to do with differences between the couples rather than the issues themselves. My husband and I both come from very poor backgrounds, both dropped out of high school and got our GEDs, both have poor family backgrounds and poor family relationships, not much of an age gap with only 3 years apart, and both strive for similar financial jobs (husband is studying for his CDL and I'll be going to school to be an ASL interpreter in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 12:05 PM
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Because revelling in depression is easier than trying to change your situation, IMO. There are some things that are out of your control, but how you deal with these things is what matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 08:40 PM
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I completely agree. It's not that one gender has it worse than the other, it's just that we each go through hardships differently. Women will say 'but you don't have to deal with X' and men will say 'but I have to deal with Y while you don't'. It's not a fucking pity party competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 08:36 PM
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But it CAN be said about female athletes and entrepreneurs though, to CERTAIN men. I think where we are getting hung up here is the definition of value and the concept of 'ALL'. Value is both subjective and objective depending on what you're basing it on. Basing it on the individual, or on patterns. While I think the idea of saying 'most' is just fine when it can be proven, as the topic we are describing here, but it is not okay to say 'all' because exceptions and individuals exist. Another exam…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 01:10 PM
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'Doesn't mean she will be a great partner'. This is true for those men that are perceived to be HV as well. I would consider myself an exception to the rule as far as women go in regards to what I personally find high value in a man. I don't come from wealth at all and a man who has wealth would have to come from poverty for me to consider him of value to me. I want a man who can relate to what I'm saying when I talk about eating condiment sandwhiches for lunch growing up. Height is less importa…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 12:54 PM
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I think that is exactly what I said. 'What men consider HV is more subjective based on individuals, what women consider HV is more objective based on the collective' to summarize. But I think the key takeaway here is 'consider'. Value as a concept is completely subjective in of itself. What applies true to most does not apply true to all. Exceptions may indeed prove the rule exists, but exceptions also prove that individuality exists as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 12:31 PM
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I think that what most men nowadays look for in women is less shallow than what women look for in men. What I mean by this as far as 'shallow' is value based on things that have no indication or correlation to their personalities or compatibility. Of course there are exceptions, like men who won't date less than a 10/10, and women who won't date based on wealth, height, or social status, but for the most part I do think this is true. I think that for men a HVW is subjective and based more on wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 12:07 PM
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No I don't think cheating is ever justified. Have some self control to wait until the end of one relationship before you have another. You can never prevent or stop someone from cheating, the best you can do is trust until that trust is broken. Which is why cheating is so bad, you've betrayed me. I could never trust someone who has cheated, because I tried to build a relationship like that back up and all it did was end up in that person cheating more, likely because they felt I had no self resp…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 08:27 PM
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I too would like to pitch a tent.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 10:55 PM
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I guess I can't really comment too much because I committed to my husband when I was 19. But I will say that if this is your prerequisite for what you won't marry then you are more than entitled to that. Find someone who meets your preferences and don't worry about the women who don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 09:17 PM
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Oh ok lol. I'm not worried by some porn star my husband wouldn't touch IRL even if he was single. First off. Secondly, the idea of 'allowing' bothers me. I don't allow him to do anything, I don't control him in that sense. He is /mine/ because HE allows it to be that way, he's the one that gave himself to me just as I've given myself to him. If I had a problem with porn we would talk it out to a compromise like adults. But also I think if I did have a problem with porn I would want to be with so…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 07:52 PM
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So a pickme is just someone who goes out of their way to please her man? That's not the equivalent of a simp, unless you're saying that she'd be willing to do that even if the face of rejection or at the expense of her own self worth, or I guess because they use that as a status symbol like men who go on and on about they're a 'nice guy'. I please my man because it makes me feel good, and because he pleases me right back. Mutuality is the key.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 07:33 PM
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I'm not trying to discredit anything this is trying to say, and maybe I agree to an extent. But for me personally I don't care about porn or prostitutes. My husband and I look at porn together, he'll save stuff to show me later that he thinks I'll like, and I'll do the same (let's not pretend women don't look at porn too, which is maybe worse than 'trying to monopolize on men's sexuality' because it's also hypocritical). I do think prostitution is degrading to women, but not because men pay for …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 05:15 PM
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That hasn't really been my experience. Most men that I know who consider themselves red pilled complain about women not having hobbies or aspirations. Consider them to be boring and vapid. But if that's your experience then I understand. But regardless I think my main point still stands, and that is that using men and acting fake towards them just worsens the devide and hatred between the sexes. It doesn't make you a good person, and you shouldn't be wasting any of your time on men you know you …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 07:48 AM
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No I meant 10 years before I had started having kids, like in the 90s lol. Sorry. (More like 20 years before I started but whatever). Also I was referencing the age group of the study, whose sample was 14-19.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 07:42 AM
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As opposed to when most women were having children ten years before that in the 90s? Yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 07:34 AM
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Most 'good' red pilled mentalities come from more conservative, less bitter men. Those that understand there is an imbalance in the law between the sexes and wish to protect themselves from that. They are that base lined mentality of knowing you need someone at home to take care of the children if that's what they want, and would rather have their spouse do the raising as opposed to a nanny, day care, or school systems they may not agree with, basically strangers. The more extreme mentalities ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 07:33 AM
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Well it does me no good to stay silent either. Maybe they'll change my mind or give me something to think about, maybe I'll do the same for them. At the very least, maybe someone reading on will gain a little hope, whatever side the onlooker might be on.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 07:20 AM
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No I don't think we should be treating those types of men well. But those are very specific men who do not represent the whole of red pilled men. And I don't think that specific type of guy would be that forthcoming while dating. What guy seriously is going to call you a slut while on a date, or talk about striping women of their rights? And as far as using women goes, this is why I'm more conservative in my views on dating because unless a woman is just looking for a one night stand she really …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 07:12 AM
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Well I certainly don't think reacting in a way that proves their points does any good at preventing the devide between the sexes. I don't think stooping to their level as a reaction makes you any better of a person. I think the better option to be honest with yourself and honest with them. When it comes to dating you just shouldn't lead someone on and use them. It's wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 06:57 AM
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That's hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 06:44 AM
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Not all red pilled men have the mentality of using women, that's more black pilled territory. Also two wrongs don't make it right, so it's not so much that they're even, and more like even if your generalization is true, women like above are literally no better and just as shitty. Stealing from a thief is still stealing, it still makes you a shitty person, and trying to justify it makes it worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 06:18 AM
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Lol no not at all. The funniest, most handsome man, charming, wealthy and famous, it doesn't matter to me. Honestly the higher a mans 'status' is I think the more flattered I would be, and the more joy I would get in turning them down, especially if they were snooty or arrogant about it. It's not like my husband is the best guy on the planet or anything, it's just that I have a bond with him. He's the only person in my life who has ever put me first, even when he's being selfish he's thinking of…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 04:28 AM
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Oh hahaha I gotcha. That guy is hilarious, love every character he's ever voice acted.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 03:59 AM
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That's truly disgusting. You are certainly entitled to your opinions on red pilled men, but using men and then turning around to make fun of them makes you a shitty person. Furthermore, using men for their money like that is exactly what men complain about. No one likes to be used, and no one likes to be led on. If you're not into it be honest and be real. This is literally the equivalent of men humping and dumping, viewing women as nothing more than a sex object.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 03:54 AM
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I don't get that reference at all, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 03:45 AM
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I knew a guy I used to work with that I got along well with because we were both conservative. We used to talk about being red pilled and what that meant, I agreed with some of the stuff he was saying until he got around to saying that 'yes, all women are like that' in reference to monkey-branching and cheating. I tried to say that 'maybe most but never all' and he accused me saying that I just hadn't met the right man that would entice me to cheat. I laughed it off and agreed to disagree on tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 02:44 AM
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Yeah the only time I've heard horror stories of women never getting their ovulation cycle back it was always older women (35+) who had problems, so like I said if it takes 2 to 3 years for some to get back then it very well could be because those women waited too long to stop in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 02:30 AM
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I don't remember the study where I read it, and to be honest the data may be outdated since BC has evolved and become better. But I remember it was called 'post-pill amenorrhea' where women who took the pill for longer than 10 years had complications getting their ovulation cycle back. For some people it takes almost 2 to 3 years to get back to normal and I remember there was a very small number of women who never started ovulating again, but I also remember they were older in age so it might be…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 02:24 AM
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Idk about anyone else but this was certainly the case for us. Our fourth was made during the start of lock downs, and I saw plenty of other pregnant women at the doctors lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 11:25 PM
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I think a big problem with this is the age group they're basing it off of. Overall births aren't honestly down that much, but teenage pregnancies have gone down. Which is a good thing honestly. Many people I know are having kids in their late 20s and early 30s, I've had four kids myself and didn't start until I was 22. Both of my sister in laws have multiple children, one with 5 the other with 3, and they both started in their mid 20s too. It's also very well known that prolonged use of birth co…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 10:43 PM
1

If you don't plan on having children the only reason to get married would be in the case a spouse dies without a will, a spouse is in a medical position that needs someone else to speak for them, less taxes taken out and more taxes at the end of the year. That's pretty much it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 03:11 PM
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I don't know why this MGTOW stuff keeps popping up in my notifications and sooner or later I'll figure out how to be removed from it, but anyways. Unless you already have a spouse that has proven loyalty, I don't think that is necessary the answer. She could leave you, divorce you, and leave you even more destitute depending on the judge. Or you could work on being self sufficient first before worrying about getting a spouse.
/r/MGTOW224/12/20 01:31 AM
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Why did I get a notification about this?
/r/MGTOW219/12/20 05:55 PM
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