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So you admit that you want to saddle women with every and all risk of having sex, while men should not carry any risk at all, ever. AGAIN: Women being allowed to control their own bodies is not the same as men never ever having any responsibility. Still hilarious that when women are fucked over by nature (carrying the fetus/giving birth) men should not be blamed but when men fucked over by nature (not carrying carrying the fetus and therefore not able to control the pregnancy) you are fine blami…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 11:13 AM
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A woman has the right to execute bodily autonomy……that is separate from abortion. I do understand what you are trying to say it just doesn’t hold ground. What you try to enforce is woman to have to choose between an abortion (they do not want for what ever reason) or to be solely responsible for the child she made 50:50 with the man……the outcome is that you want to make woman solely responsible for something both caused 50:50. As I said before you want to rid men of any responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 05:36 PM
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There is NO argument for men to get out of their responsibility. A pregnancy occurs with 50:50 contribution of man and woman so they should have 50:50 responsibility to the child. That a woman does not execute her right to abortion does not null the mans contribution to the pregnancy. You literally don’t compute. Don’t even realize that you have the same fundamental rights as women. As I said it hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 04:43 PM
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See and that is why discussing with you is pointless as you don’t even think about any argument that is not going for you. Real feminist are for financial abortion…..alright so you now decide who is a real feminist and who isn’t. I stand with what I said and it’s not only me. Why would women’s bodily autonomy needed to be evened out, if men already have bodily autonomy. You know that is equality, women have bodily autonomy just like men. Nobody wants to take bodily autonomy away from women😂… tel…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 02:49 PM
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Men have rights and nobody wants to take them from you. Men do have bodily autonomy and nobody is questioning that. Feminists only want the same for women and yeah men try their hardest to take that away. And no women wanting bodily autonomy is not radical in the slightest. Way up this thread you said don’t blame men, biology fucked you over and then you fail to see and understand that the biological difference is exactly what makes my bodily autonomy play out differently from yours. Hilarious!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 02:02 PM
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When did you have your last abortion? That you know it’s so easy? Men can not have a right when it comes to a pregnant woman…..why you ask? Because if they get that, then the woman can not have bodily autonomy. And why should a woman not have bodily autonomy, when man have it? Most men (obviously including you) do not realize that having heterosexual sex always includes the chance of pregnancy. No matter what methods of birth control you use or even if you use multiple, there is always the chanc…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 09:38 AM
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They dodging nothing…..they deal with a situation. I‘m not one who wants her cake and eat it too, I just want woman to have the same fundamental rights men have. „I don’t care about…..“ yeah that’s the problem men usually don’t care about anything but themselves. You don’t care to learn why abortion is allowed (hint: it’s not to give woman an opt out of parenthood). You don’t care about your own actions. You don’t care about consequences. You want just a way to never be responsible anything. If …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 12:33 AM
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You do realize that adoption and safe heaven are different things? Adoptions are not anonymous. Safe heaven is a different thing all together, for crisis situations (you know to prevent babies from being killed in crisis) and if I remember correctly than in 45 states or so not only the mother can drop off a kid. If it’s as easy as talking to the father…….than why is it not as easy for the father to communicate and realize she is pregnant? „I want financial abortion to be legal“ = you want men to…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 12:26 AM
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I had this discussion not to long ago with someone and no……safe heaven is a lot of the time not completely anonymous. Not only the mother can drop off. And what is it that you want? Do you want to make it a condition to put a father down? And if you have casual flings, who never speak to each other again, how do you want the woman to tell the father?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:07 PM
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We are going on circles…..there is one if he registers, that’s not up to her. And let’s say he did not register and only later he gets to know about that kid….he can still overturn her giving the baby up. Do women you slept with usually never speak to you again? Is that the usual outcome for you or guys you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 06:24 PM
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You should if you care about potential babies…… If we talk about how things are…..fathers are not established automatically but he can get established if he takes action. A woman can not unilaterally give up a kid when there is a legal father.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 06:03 PM
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First things first, abortion is not taking no responsibility, it’s quite the opposite. Second, women don’t get pregnant without men. So if you are responsible for the existence of the pregnancy, then you should at least participate financially. Oh and I’m all for the no sex bit……I would go as far as not having sex with someone I wouldn’t want to procreate with…..but that might come back to bite men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 06:00 PM
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Oh no, a woman always has to take responsibility. She can not not deal with a pregnancy. She either has to go through a pregnancy and raise the child, or give it up or she has to endure an abortion. There is no way, how she can ever get off free. But you want to create a way for men to get off without any responsibility ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 04:58 PM
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If there is a legal father, he needs to consent If the father is not jet legally established, he can have himself established. If you don’t like that non married fathers are not automatically established, you might change that. For all I care, it should be put on the birth certificate who ever the mother says. If that man doesn’t think he is the one, he shall be tested and taken off, if he is not the father. By the way, if you engage in heterosexual sex, there is always a possibility of pregnanc…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 04:56 PM
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So in the unlikely case that she just goes nc, then he can register if he is interested in a potential child. Nobody needs to stalk anybody. But let’s be honest, most guys are happy if the woman disappears and does not „put them on child support“.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 04:35 PM
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And from then on she is invisible to him and everyone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 04:22 PM
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Ok, then you like to create a world in which two people are responsible for creating a new person but only one is forced to take responsibility for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 04:22 PM
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Oh no, you talked about that the woman would not tell him. I said a pregnancy is hard to hide, so if they still see each other or mutual friends see her or something, he will still know she got pregnant and might act accordingly. The registry with just the suspicion would obviously only occur if the woman „vanished“ and the guy would think „hmmm if she was to have my child, then I want to be involved“.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 04:20 PM
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Because you slept with someone?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 04:02 PM
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And he doesn’t need to know, he can register with just the suspicion.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:58 PM
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If he slept with her? He does know with whom he slept, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:55 PM
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That’s how idiots think.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:53 PM
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It actually functions in the way that he can register and say that if woman was to deliver a baby in the next 10 month, he suspects that he might be the father and would want that tested.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:50 PM
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And what if half the cost is still to much? What about access? So you want to impend a choice on her against her religion? The whole point of the Texas law is to let abortion seem possible when it’s really not but because it would be theoretically possible you want fathers to be able to financially abort, when the mother in reality is not able to have an abortion?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:48 PM
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As potential father.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:44 PM
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Besides men can register without even knowing there’s a pregnancy……
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:31 PM
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Its quite hard to hide a pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:26 PM
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What about women who can not access an abortion, who can not pay for it, who may be religious and for that reason would never do it? Or woman in Texas?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:07 PM
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If the man has interest in the child, he can register in a „responsible father registry“ and he although can sue. Adoptions can and will be overturned if the father did not give consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:06 PM
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This does not even touch on the fact that for a lot of women an abortion is never even a possibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:00 PM
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A woman can not give up the child without the fathers consent, the same as the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 02:58 PM
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I surely believe there where a lot of „incels“ during history. For the reason alone that everyone who was „different“ was very much shunned from society. Monogamy only determines that one man and one woman get married and only this combination is possible. It doesn’t say anything about what percent of people where able to get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 01:28 PM
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Yes of course it was in their interest to have people to serve. That’s no point of discussion. It was not in their interest to let the serving class grow uncontrolled thought. For the rich to accumulate wealth, there needed to be an overproduction on servant level but resources where limited, so in order to have an overproduction the serving class had to be limited as well. You may want to read up on who even was allowed to marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 07:46 AM
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Not if the poor are so poor that they struggle to feed themselves and their kids…..
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 04:48 AM
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I have no idea if that would have been considered an Incel. But I‘m sure that a lot of people where not able to marry……where my family is from, it was actually forbidden by law to marry without permission. Bit people would only get permission if they could support their own household. There where even laws to punish clergy men, who would marry people without the necessary permission and it was forbidden to build rentable accommodations for couples/families. It was literally done anything possibl…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 07:35 PM
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If you are curious try a little genealogy…..I found in my direct line a lot of men had a second wife (after the first died) but only one woman who had a second husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 07:15 PM
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Monogamy means only one man and one woman in a marriage, it says nothing about what percentage of people where able to marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 06:55 PM
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A part of women became second or even third wife’s. A lot of women died in childbirth or shortly after and needed to be replaced. Plus there where a lot of women who never got married…….where do you think field hands came from? For the longest time 95% of the population where farmer and unmarried relatives lived in these households as servants.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 06:52 PM
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My first real boyfriend studied physics, we we’re together for 7 years (got together in school) and through him I got to know a nearly unlimited amount of those guys. Most of them weren’t bad people but very very socially awkward and mostly not willing to do something about there social inabilities but complaining all the time about not having a girlfriend. Most of them needed a long time to „warm up“ to social settings but they all eventually found partners……but I never ever heard that any of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 06:20 PM
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What is so hard about it? I assume you have student accommodation, food and purpose in going to university. Where is the hard part? Do you struggle to afford to eat? Are you not able do your assignments because you have to work so much? What is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 06:18 AM
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What was done for your sister?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 04:26 PM
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Oh yes, this is very weird to me because there is more to life…… I have been on both sides of this. I took care of my grandmother and grandfather when they where close to their end and I never wished them dead. Was it hard? Yes, my grandfather especially, as he suffered from dementia and in the end did not recognize us anymore as his family. But he still enjoyed a nice walk in the sun, his favorite food or singing songs from his childhood. He was still a person and worth living. On the other sid…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 03:01 PM
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So what’s your plan? Suicide at 65?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 02:39 PM
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From personal experience with guys in STEM related study programs…..these guys are mostly socially inexperienced or even socially awkward and they don’t care to practice social skills and that comes out to a lot of them needing much longer to find a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 02:30 PM
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The reason is that you live in a society and you need other people, that includes following generations.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 01:53 PM
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So you have not been taken care of as a child? And you do not expect younger generations to take care of you when you are old?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 01:50 PM
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There is a positive connotation to the word coerce?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 01:09 PM
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No you don’t care about the girl in that scenario, you only care about what you want from her.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 10:43 AM
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Serious question: did you not masturbate because you did not want to for god or because you did not really „ know about it“?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 05:21 AM
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If you pay close attention, you realize that he deliberately plays dump with the first princess, so she would not want to marry him! When she still tries to convince him to marry her (we would never have to be together only for royal balls and making heirs) he states clearly that he does not want to marry her. He is not dump, he plays dump in order to put of a wedding as long as possible. Why does he need to have other ambitions right away? He just figured out, that he can say no to becoming kin…
/r/MensRights07/09/21 05:20 AM
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I don’t agree with you at all! • Cinderella is submissive to her stepmother because she has nothing. She has no money, no assets and no rights. She is fully at her stepmothers discretion, it’s either do what stepmother says or live on the streets. • The Prince is not stupid at all, he is just not interested in being king. At the ball with Cinderella he even explains why…..he wanted to be king when he was younger (because he was impressed by his father) but as he grew older, he realized that the …
/r/MensRights06/09/21 09:02 PM
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Don‘t confuse yourself, that your mother and your nanny are a better couple of parents, then you and your husband is not normal. And getting help is not the same as giving all responsibility to other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 07:46 PM
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Your mother contributes financially while your nanny provides physical care……what does that sound like to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 07:21 PM
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You mean your mother and your nanny dedicated their lifes to your family……
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 07:04 PM
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So why don’t you do you then?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 06:53 PM
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That’d bullshit and you know it…..Olympe de Gouges is thought to have been the first feminist and she was very much european……if anybody got ideas from anywhere than it’s the US from Europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 06:38 PM
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Objectively my grandmother (before feminism) had to work after leaving school, than after marriage, had kids and still went on working all while not being allowed to pick a place of work (without my grandfather’s consent), not being able to have a bank account (without my grandfather’s consent) or being allowed to use her own money (without grandfather’s consent) or being able to get a divorce if she would have wanted one. After feminism the women in our family have way more options and we can a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 06:34 PM
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Again, solely your perspective….my perspective is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 06:24 PM
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So your argument here is that european women went to university in the US, got ideas there, came back to Europe and are then faster in bringing this ideas to life than Americans?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 06:23 PM
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It doesn’t matter to you, then why do you complain? I and many other women only gained things.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 06:16 PM
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What comes from liberal US universities?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 06:12 PM
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Special is not powerful…..it’s far from it. If you don’t want to discuss your husbands ethnicity/culture, then I suggest that you leave that out of your arguments. And in the end you literally can only live the life you have because your mother pays for it. Which she can only do because of feminism, so you complaining about feminism is frankly hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 06:11 PM
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But your husband has power over nothing….he just goes along with you. So how does that fit together? I would ask but you did not say which ethnicity your husband is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 05:47 PM
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You obviously don’t have friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 05:39 PM
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So it seems that trend does not come from the US then?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 05:39 PM
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The traditional rule of your mans village is to live of his mother in law? Interesting ä, which village is that? Sex he has with other women and companionship? You might be better of with a dog.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 05:38 PM
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But you said it yourself the amount of SAHMs is much higher in the US then in Europe……so how does that fit into your picture?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 05:35 PM
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So your husband contributes nothing. These people are my friends……I would know.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 05:34 PM
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Then why do you complain in your op about degrading sex? You do not live anything pre feminism…..you live of your mum. That has nothing to do with feminism. What is your husband contributing to your marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 05:27 PM
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Cultural trends come from the US? To where?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 05:25 PM
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Low quality men? What’s high quality to you? Your husband does not embody anything I would deem to be a quality. He does not work, does no housework, does not take care of his children, is not loyal to you…….what is any value about him? Is he even mentally an adult? I severely doubt that. My social circle mostly consists of young professional couples with young children…..all of the women would not need to work, if they didn’t want to, still they all do.🤷🏻‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 05:24 PM
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You did? Somehow is your mother paying your bills? Why does he not work? Why do you complain about degrading sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 05:17 PM
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1950s …. and what was with the other half of women? You don’t even live in the US, so why is that your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 05:16 PM
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If the opportunity was there and you like the pre feminist lifestyle, then why didn’t you marry such a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 05:12 PM
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But how do you know that’s a worse deal for them? You are applying solely your own perspective. How many children do you have? 4? That’s a nightmare to me. Your man surely seems to be a nightmare and how many women need to tell you that they like to work, until you believe it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 03:57 PM
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You say feminism did all women wrong because before feminism women could marry at 18 and never have a care in the world after. I say the marrying at 18, never work and have wonderful life was only ever true for a tiny group of people. It was never something that all woman could have or even the majority. Then you go, but in my community (when I was young) all women could marry at 18 and live the pre feminism fairytale. But again, you belong to a very tiny sliver of society. A group of expats, wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 03:52 PM
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And? What I know from your marriage makes my toenails roll up. So I would say this is very much a matter of perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 03:44 PM
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So again you make assumptions about all women even so you yourself belong to a tiny sliver of society, who lives by very different rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 03:35 PM
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How would you know if it’s not as good, if nobody around you nor you have the experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 03:33 PM
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What? So you are not Swedish either or what are you saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 03:25 PM
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So 20 years ago was pre feminism in Sweden?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 03:12 PM
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I do genealogy, in my family (which I can trace fairly far) no one ever married before 23. They tended to be more like 25-27. so what now?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 03:10 PM
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So you want to tell us that like 20 years ago Swedish women would marry at 18 and move in with their in laws? Why did people not marry earlier pre feminism? Not sure but I would assume because they didn’t have the means to?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 03:04 PM
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Where? Where I‘m from SAHM only ever where a thing for a very small population, like ever. So the non feminist deal here was marrying in your midd 20s but working from when you left school and than homonym working but now the husband calls the shots about where/what you work and where the money goes to. Still getting pressure to stay married even if marriage is shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 02:56 PM
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This was only ever for true for a very tiny part of the population. And I have a very comfortable home but still like to leave it and meet other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 02:43 PM
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Why not? You obviously admit it. Take whatever statement you like from your op. That women don’t want to study/work……that women need to have degrading sex (pick what you like) and that the fault lies with feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 02:18 PM
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Lots of women told you right in this thread, that you don’t speak for them…..have you ever even come across other women that believe what you believe?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 01:55 PM
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And that maybe fine for you. I would still kill to get out of that……so don’t speak for me!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 01:33 PM
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For somebody who claims to have gone to law school and that on top of her class, you do pretty bad with definitions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 01:32 PM
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What’s your point here? That says nothing about guaranteed marriage in earlier generations.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 01:15 PM
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You although get an allowance from your mother, need to dumpster dive for clothing and need to have sex at brothels with prostitutes you pay for (which really means your mum pays for). Lady I would kill to get out of your life!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 01:11 PM
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I will let my dmv equivalent know that they need to hand out drivers licenses now because it’s guaranteed now.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 01:06 PM
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Women would kill to be financially dependent on their mother and to have to engage in sex with prostitutes for their men not to leave? Please speak for your self because I‘m for sure not one of the women who would kill for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 12:57 PM
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That a lot of people got married doesn’t make it a guarantee……..where I live most people have a driver’s license, that doesn’t make it a guarantee that everyone will get one.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 12:53 PM
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I studied law and it’s not boring at all, when you are into it. The problem is that a lot of people don’t study it because they like it but for other reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 12:21 PM
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You do realize that to marry you would need a partner? So if men died on great scale, that would leave an excess of women. Even without war there where always people who never married/could marry……the further you go back, the more people fall into that category. Marriage was never ever guaranteed for the majority of people. Sure, if you happened to be the heir to an aristocratic family, then pretty sure you would be married but even then, in the majority of cases not to someone you wanted to mar…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 12:19 PM
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And now you wonder why you hated school? I‘m baffled how oblivious you seem to be…..
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 12:08 PM
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And you couldn’t find anything that would interest you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 11:55 AM
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No, I say we never had garanteed marriage, ever. But especially not in times when a lot of people died in wars.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 11:54 AM
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Why did you study law if you hated it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 11:44 AM
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You are so old that you did not have cameras and the internet „back then“?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 11:15 AM
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What lifestyle? So many people died that a considerable amount of women had no chance to get married. So much for your „garanteed marriage“…..
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 11:03 AM
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So you have to send your husband pictures of your asshole? Did you have to do that to get him interested in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 11:00 AM
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And still they prefer it to staying.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 10:10 AM
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I for sure would rather be a single mom then in a bad relationship and I really like that I the choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 08:10 AM
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And you said she was although a ceo and she is still providing for you today, isn’t she? So she provided for the to of you and worked….so what’s exactly impossible in this situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 06:31 AM
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Why would a 30 year old woman not be capable of providing for herself when she has a kid? In what world are you living?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 09:19 PM
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And if your mom pays for childcare and food and you go dumpster diving for cloth.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 08:19 PM
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Surely not all women but a significant part……but you know the male partner then needs to be into that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 12:32 PM
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So not every building at all….and you think it’s a problem that responsible people take responsibility? Got you!
/r/MensRights15/08/21 07:02 AM
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Any building? If your aunt lives in San Francisco she can not let you in without proof?
/r/MensRights15/08/21 06:27 AM
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Do you have forced vaccinations where you are? How is that enforced?
/r/MensRights14/08/21 09:52 PM
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This is about averages or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 10:30 PM
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You realize that that makes no sense? If for men 7 is accurate then with whom are these women sleeping?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 08:15 PM
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Which does not negate the point, that he goes to prostitutes, because they give him something you don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 08:58 PM
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„It looks bad when men have to pay foreign women for sex….“ - only that that was never ever the point our discussion. We discussed actually quite the opposite, that prostitution is a normal job here and no one bets an eye. German women couldn’t care less about men going to prostitutes….actually women fought for prostitution being legal, a normal job with all protections. It’s better for everyone this way, sex workers are getting protections and sex trafficking is less prevalent (but of course ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 08:13 PM
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They rather want the woman to be enthusiastic and willing because she is into them, not because she is payed. That you don’t share that view is somewhat obvious as you seem to frequent prostitutes. Why would I want to fool you about anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 07:18 PM
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Call me crazy but if you have to drink yourself senseless in order to have sex, then you probably should not have sex at all but rather work on yourself. And did you not argue with somebody else that women should be told not to fuck while drunk? How do I suggest women have sex? For sure not drunken to incapacity…..nothing good can come from that. And I highly doubt that most women need to be drunk to have sex. You can’t tell on a guy by looking at him? I never said I could. But I can tell on the…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 08:41 PM
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We already established that neither you nor I know a marriage that evolved from drunken sex like that and you say there are no stats on this so I don’t see where you want to go with this? It’s for sure very rarely if ever happening and not the reason „why women get married“. It happened to some of the friends of your man so then that must be proof for it happening to men as much as to women….. Obviously there are people who frequent prostitutes here or it wouldn’t be the industry that it is…..st…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 02:28 PM
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But it’s still how a lot of people meet and have sex. - That was not the point of the discussion and even if it was it’s morally questionable at best to fuck a drunk/incapacitated stranger. It‘s just as common for women to go after men thar can’t consent. - is it? Guys don’t have as much issues with paying now? You think? How do you come to that conclusion? I‘m German, sex work is legal here, it’s actually a normal job with healthcare and all for I think 20 years now and still I don’t know a sin…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 01:46 PM
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So I don’t know any relationships/marriages that came to be like this and you don’t either. Your man and his friends, who hooked up drunk with women they wouldn’t have hooked up with sober, all REGRETTED IT THE NEXT DAY…….the only one who is disingenuous here is you! The only „shot“ that I see this women having, is one on self esteem issues, as the guy who was eager to sleep with them yesterday, is now traumatized because they don’t rise to his standard. And yes before sleeping with someone who …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 01:04 PM
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„For a lot of women getting drunk and letting a guy fuck them is their path to marriage and a family.“ So first things first……getting intentionally drunk to fuck a specific person is equated with consenting to fuck that person. But that aside, I really would like a source for that, as I’m not aware of a single marriage that came to be like this. I really would like to know how many are these „lot of women“? „Also drinking gives men beer goggles and lowers their standards.“ While these might work…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 07:58 AM
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What are you trying to say? That if men are not allowed to fuck incapacitated women, then nobody will get married?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 06:55 AM
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Then that reality must be changed desperately! You realize that you just advocated that it’s ok to have sex with someone incapacitated because people always did that?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 06:27 AM
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I just read the article from the op…..again the sliver thing here. „Consent may also be withdrawn at any stage during a sexual encounter. Recently I dealt with a case where the victim consented to sexual intercourse with her partner but asked him to stop when it became painful. He didn’t stop. The accused was convicted because of photographic evidence on the victim’s phone showing the black eye he’d given her while she pleaded with him to stop.“ So you want us to think that the woman had no righ…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 06:23 AM
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So I took a dive and actually looked for the articles and not only the tiny sliver you want me to see….. http://www.stopvaw.org/law_enforcement_reform_efforts „train police officers to not fact-check allegations“ …… you did read the whole thing! Didn’t you? You realized that this is a website of a human rights group? You know these organizations that are non - governmental and have no legal power whatsoever? So and these group now promotes a statement of another group (the international associat…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 06:13 AM
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Most men don’t know how dangerous it is…..you mean most men don’t see anything wrong with sleeping with someone incapacitated to make legal decisions and that’s the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 07:40 PM
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You think most men know? Seems to me it’s still not enough, if men not only sleep with random intoxicated women but although tape them to proof „consent“……so obviously these guys see nothing wrong with it. I don’t know where you live, but where I am men get now told for years and years to not fuck totally wasted girls but it still happens……just like men would not listen at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 05:43 PM
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If this is all so clear cut, why not tell men not to fuck drunk women?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 04:56 PM
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I‘m very confused…..which of your examples do you see as a problem? Is it confusing to you, that the parties have to consent every time for sex? That a one time consent doesn’t mean a sex flat rate if you will? Or is it confusing to you that one party can demand to stop when the sex becomes painful……. Or what is the actual problem here?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 02:30 PM
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Serious question: did you ever read report yourself about that study?
/r/MensRights05/08/21 06:51 AM
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So then your situation and the situation of Clarkson is not at all comparable.
/r/MGTOW229/07/21 08:17 PM
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You do realize that a second grader is 7-8? A child that age is not able to consent to any sexual activity! ….. I‘m not an expert but I severely doubt that another second grader would have a functional erection so that one could argue she had sex with another 7-8 year old. Who ever had sex with that child was older then that and yes who ever did that raped her! She was not able to consent at that age. Can this other person be tried for that? I don’t know ….. that depends on how old this other pe…
/r/MGTOW229/07/21 07:26 AM
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I started my thoughts about the Dr.Dre divorce with „I don’t know enough about the case“ so yeah, I‘m not sure about it but I could understand that scenario. I‘m very much unsure about the financial state of Dre/Young 25 to 20 years ago but that’s the relevant timeframe here as that’s when their kids where born….why is in your mind Dr. Dre not responsible for any of the choices that where made regarding the organization of that family? Do you have any inside that says Nicole Young decided withou…
/r/MGTOW229/07/21 07:05 AM
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There should be a discrepancy in public response, as what Clarkson has to pay is not even in the same ballpark as Dr.Dres payments…..not to forget that Clarksons ex had a lucrative career as talent manager and it seems he quit upon divorce to go into farming. I‘m not sure but doesn’t a talent manager typically get 20% of the talents income? He originally managed Clarkson but although others…..I wouldn’t be surprised if he had originally made about the same as Clarkson herself……so tell me, wouldn…
/r/MGTOW229/07/21 06:36 AM
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I‘m not quite sure about the US but in Europe an 11 year old can not be charged with anything. She obviously is in a delicate mental state and she is a victim (literally)……I don’t see what what good it should bring to try her. Is it tragic that the father was 10 years in jail if he did nothing? For sure! But as you said your self life isn’t fair and people unfairly get a raw deal.
/r/MGTOW229/07/21 06:12 AM
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It was not on her word alone…..there was physical evidence of sex. Somebody had sex with her before the trail. And it was not in the middle of divorce! The divorce was 1991 while the trail was 2001, so a whole decade later.
/r/MGTOW228/07/21 10:31 PM
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Did you read? She was 11 at the time of the trail and she was already „sexually active“ in second grade…..she was raped! It may not have been her father but for sure nobody kept her safe or gave a shit about her.
/r/MGTOW228/07/21 10:28 PM
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She already got raped…..she was „sexually active“ in second grade…..whatever happened to her, she was failed by everyone!
/r/MGTOW228/07/21 10:26 PM
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None of them is in need, that’s for sure. I don’t know enough about the Dr. Dre divorce but I could see, that her being a lawyer initially and potentially taking time of to have kids or to be there for the family in general would call for compensation…..as she could potentially have made a lot of money in that time. What seems to me unethical about the Clarkson divorce is, that it seems as the ex did quit his lucrative job upon divorce and now expects her to pay for his new hobby of farming. I c…
/r/MGTOW228/07/21 09:21 PM
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Does that make a difference why? She pays him 45k for him to have daily face time with the kids and every second holiday…… I just looked up the numbers…Kelly Clarkson pays 10% of her monthly income in spousal support plus about 3% in child support after not even 7 years of marriage and after her ex quitting his lucrative career to go into farming and rodeo. Dr. Dre on the other hand is said to make about 4 million per month (at least that’s the figure I found), so he pays his ex 7,5% of his mont…
/r/MGTOW228/07/21 09:12 PM
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You think? I think it’s overkill, especially if you take the Dr. Dre divorce into comparison.
/r/MGTOW228/07/21 08:46 PM
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How is this even a comparison? Dr. Dre and Nicole Young where married for 26 years and his net worth is about $820 million while Kelly Clarkson and Brandon Blackstock where not even married for 7 years and Clarksons net worth is about $45 million …… so if anything Clarkson pays considerably more in relation to her net worth, plus she pays child support for children that she has primary custody of.
/r/MGTOW228/07/21 08:13 PM
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I don’t see anything easy here….she pays him 150k per month in spousal support, plus 45k in child support (for kids that she has primary custody of). And she has to pay that kind of spousal support because he quit his lucrative job (managing artists) upon divorce, to go into farming.
/r/MGTOW228/07/21 07:59 PM
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Because she has primary custody of the kids and is still paying him child support.
/r/MGTOW228/07/21 07:03 PM
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Do you although have primary custody of your kids, like Kelly Clarkson?
/r/MGTOW228/07/21 07:02 PM
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Cute - they fit my „type“ of guy that I‘m attracted to. Nice - friendly, open to talk and easy to talk to. Charming - he was friendly as well, conversation was easily upheld…..he invited me/us to go to a club dancing and we had just fun dancing, joking ect. I like good conversation, good food, experiencing new things and he checked all the boxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 06:58 PM
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Only that he had a job in managing music artists and he quit it to go into farming and rodeo…….I think no divorced man would be happy, if the exwife quits her job upon divorce?!
/r/MGTOW228/07/21 06:51 PM
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Did you read the article? The 150 k are solely spousal support, she pays child support additionally (for children that she has primary custody of).
/r/MGTOW228/07/21 06:47 PM
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First time it turned into 4 night stands, so not really one and done. He was really cute/nice and the sex was really good. Second time the guy fell in love and was so enthusiastic about it, that I got to really like him and it turned into 18 months long relationship. But for the first time he was cute and charming and I was horny. Third time it was someone that I knew since forever, I just wanted to have sex and I felt very comfortable with him and so we did it but it became a friends with benef…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 04:39 PM
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Do you have sources for any of that?
/r/MensRights23/07/21 07:50 AM
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What’s the problem with the Istanbul convention in your eyes?
/r/MensRights20/07/21 10:15 AM
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Turkey just withdrew from the Istanbul convention……how does that fit into your description?
/r/MensRights20/07/21 10:06 AM
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But China has a statewide retirement system that started in 1951 and in 1978 the fundamental right to retirement was confirmed by not one but two high court decisions…….and only after that the one-child-policy was implemented in 1979/1980……and even then it did never really apply to all population groups, as minorities and rural population always had exemptions.
/r/MensRights17/07/21 07:03 AM
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Did any of you read the article? The girl was 11 at the time….11! And there was physical evidence of her having sex…..so what ever happened to her, someone had sex with an 11 year old! Is it wrong, that the father went to jail, if he did not do it? Sure, it’s a tragedy! But let’s not pretend that nothing happened to this child and that she just imagined things!
/r/MensRights16/07/21 08:16 AM
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Serious question: why do you attribute the deaths of your students to feminism?
/r/MensRights15/07/21 12:46 PM
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Shaming for not having sex is not ok and it should not be used as an insult…..but that’s kind of besides the point of these discussion, isn’t it?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 11:46 AM
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Ok so you still would have masturbation and sex toys to relieve yourself and as you told me, that you did not mean to demand women to let you use their bodies…..that’s the way to go then. So what’s your problem about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 10:35 AM
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You might want to realize that not all feminists are the same and that not all places are the same. I would say, I‘m as feminist, as it gets and I really don’t care about guys watching porn….what I do care about is, that despite watching porn, men should still keep in mind that porn is not reality…..watch porn and get off to it all you want but don’t expect real life sex partners to do the same things against their own preferences. And don’t expect the inexperienced girlfriend to go straight to …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 10:14 AM
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Which is not what the original comment said but go on, put words in people’s mouth’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 09:56 AM
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They constantly masturbated…..so they solved the higher sex drive within their own means…..they did not go and fucked everyone who wasn’t fast enough to escape.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 08:52 AM
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And I didn’t read anywhere that men should „control themselves and shut up“……you might want to show me that comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 08:49 AM
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If it’s not important how the relief is made to happen….then men can just relief themselves. You know masturbation exist, sex toys exist and porn and depending on where you are prostitution…..so what’s your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 08:46 AM
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„If women can demand treatment to relief their cramped uterus, then there is no reason why men could not demand some relief from their erected penis.“ Do you want to say, that wanting pain killers for pain is the same as wanting another person, to let you use their body, is the same thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 08:20 AM
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What about the East German female athletes? Did they get a reputation for not being able to control their sex drive?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 08:13 AM
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But what should change the mind of women on the fence? When I look at myself… yeah maybe I will have one child in the future. But nothing could bring me to have more and all my friends are like this. It’s not that we could not afford a second or third, it’s just that we don’t want to…..and honestly, we are far to many people on this earth….we are far to many in my country, so I (and many of my friends) just don’t see the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 06:32 PM
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I severely doubt that that would make a difference in the grand scale…..I‘m German we have payed parental leave of 12 month (can be extended to 24 month) and parents can split the time how ever they like. Your job is protected while pregnant/on leave. We have subsidized childcare (in my state it is even free) from the child’s first birthday in. We get child benefits of 200€ per month and child that can extend until the 25th birthday of the kid (depending on what the kid does education wise). We …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 06:11 PM
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I don’t think that pharmacists and MDs are the same….where did you get that from? At least where I live to run a pharmacy you have to study pharmacy (4 years) plus one year of practice on the job…..so that requires an university education of at least 5 years. To be an MD you would go to university for 6 years but the last year again is practice on the job. So they are obviously not same but the educational difference between pharmacist and MD is not that big. You seem to believe that a pharmacis…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 11:23 AM
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Where are you, that working in a pharmacy and giving advice about drugs/ selling drugs is not dependent on a related education? I really really doubt that the underage girls are legally allowed to give any advice or sell drugs (like a pharmacist/MD)! But let’s assume you are right and the woman „gave up on her career“ to work in the family business…..she is still working, she is still making money, that’s far from being a SAHM. That’s even further from being miserable because working. And it’s c…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 09:12 AM
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But could she have worked in the pharmacy without her education? And changing career paths is not giving up on working all together.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 07:30 AM
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Do you have any evidence for that talking point?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 06:44 AM
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Again your totally twisted and not realistic picture of things….who made these women work? Trade wife’s exist….nobody needs to submit to the „feminist lifestyle“ if they don’t want to…. Don’t you think that there was the wish of women to have choice first? And seriously it wasn’t the same in all places….in 1970 women’s employment rate in east Germany was over 80 percent….why would these women not want to have equal rights?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 02:12 AM
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Where did I say that these women worked each and everyone full time? But the participation in the workforce generally depended on employment contract and paycheck and I very much doubt that babysitting for 2 hours a week would fit these criteria. You stated that women did not need to work a day in their life and that was simply only ever true for a very small percentage of people. Even if you take out childrearing and homemaking……which you obviously think is not work at all. Is the opposite of „…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 12:08 AM
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So, I just looked that up for the US and official statics say that in 1950 34% of women where participating in the labor force…..as far as I could determine, these do not include women who lived and subsequently worked on farms (as in the farmers wife ect.). I think we can agree that farm work is hard work and should not be seen as „never worked a day in their life“ even though these women most likely have never seen a paycheck. In 1940 40% of the US population lived/worked on farms (there was a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 11:09 PM
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Serious question here…..what percentage of women did really not have to work? Not a day in their life? Say in the 1950s?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 09:36 PM
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„Do it for Schweden“ was actually „Do it for Denmark“ and that wasn’t something from the government but an ad from a travel agency, which played on statistics that said, that people have more sex on vacations……but nice try.
/r/MensRights12/07/21 07:08 PM
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The next woman that daddy married…..or the oldest daughter of she was old enough……it was although common to send the kids to live with relatives like some aunt. My great grandfather’s first wife died after having 6 kids…..she was not even cold when he married a barely legal girl (who became my great grandmother) and had 15 kids with her. My father in law was send to live with his grandparents, after his mother died when he was six. He only returned when his father had remarried two years later………
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 02:03 PM
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Yeah ….. clearly you attacked me as a liar because you think exactly the same way I do…..you don’t make any sense at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 08:11 AM
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Sorry did you and your family live in the GDR or where do you take your insights from? Childcare was free of cost for the family……where childcare workers payed? Of course! By the government just like teachers…. Usually kids went to the nursery at 5 months of age and moms went back to work. Divorce was much easier and quicker than today in Germany or back then in west Germany…..there was no mandatory separation period (today it’s minimum 1 year but can be extended to 3 years if one partner does n…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 12:14 AM
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Not op but women where independent of men….they had their own money, the kids had childcare at no cost and healthcare was free as well. Divorce was easy and quick. I actually was born in east Germany and my family was economically very secure….as in all of them had houses, my parents build a house (in the last years of the Republic) my mom got a motorcycle at 15 and a car at 19 …..non of my family had any debt. Everyone had more than enough to eat and to live on….what they didn’t have was freedo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 09:59 PM
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Not all women ran west …. but in general women here are more inclined to move where they see a future for them selves….which was where there where jobs after the economic collapse of the GDR and that was the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 09:34 PM
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I‘m not from the US but in my jurisdiction that would be an illegal abortion. Until the child becomes a legal person it’s considered abortion and only after the killing is manslaughter/murder. The cutoff is the beginning of the birth.....before that it’s a fetus without legal rights after that it’s a legal person.
/r/MensRights30/06/21 06:11 PM
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Is this really about abortion in the medical sense? To me it seems that you just want an extra way for men to reject being a parent ...... a way that has nothing to do with the medical procedure and that would create two „classes“ of kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 12:47 PM
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Can they? Women can be forced to go through pregnancy, when abortion is made illegal or when they do not actually have access to it. Going through a pregnancy and birthing a child when you don’t want to be pregnant is very much torture, physically and psychologically but it does not really make you a parent when you don’t want to be one. Women can sign parental rights away or give a child up for adoption (with consent of the father) just like men can.....from a legal standpoint. So they can reje…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 09:07 AM
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No matter how often you repeat it, it still is a wrong statement. Women and men have bodily autonomy. Women and men can give a child up for adoption (in consent with each other). Women and men can sign parental rights away but remain financially responsible. The poster before me explained the difference between bodily autonomy of a woman and the „Right to reject parenthood“ (which does not exist at the point in time of an abortion) in excruciating detail but you either just don’t want to see it …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 10:43 PM
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„lots of adoptions take place every year without the birth father ever being involved.“ - as I wrote before this is going against the law....just like not paying child support. Which is why the birth father has the right to sue and which is also why this is exactly not a right the birth mother has. Yes there is a non-sexist reason.....it’s actually the only way to make the not a sexist matter, in granting woman and man a like bodily autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 10:20 PM
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Do you even read your own links? Your website states the following: „Legally the father of a child has the same parental rights as the mother, so ideally he is part of the process and gives consent to the adoption.“ And later it says: „If the father decides later that he wants the child, he might be able to sue for custody and take the child away.“ for the case of a not involved birthfather. The whole topic of this website is to give advice on how to get the consent of the birthfather. The law s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 09:26 PM
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What you totally disregard here is that this would create 2 „classes“ of the children.....the ones who have the right to support from both parents and the ones who have only the right to support from their mother. That clashes with the notion that all men are equal. In your quest for „equal“ rights for men you you want to roll over the rights of the children.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 11:11 AM
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This has nothing to do with sexism.....you just fail to see the difference between a fetus and a born baby. If you actually want to discuss (outside of the topic of this post) how men and women can reject to be parents to an already born baby, you would have to discuss adoption. In adoption men and women have the same rights. A baby can only be given up for adoption if both birthparents approve. If one does not approve the adoption can not proceed. If a woman wants to give her baby up but the bi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 10:29 AM
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Its like they live in another world, isn’t it? I‘m from Germany and all my friends and I are absolutely self sufficient....my friend are nurses, doctors, lawyers, there is one judge, one is in business consulting, two have their own businesses and non of them needs a man. But we all still have a man in our life. But no, non of these guys would even dream to tell their so what to wear or where to go....it baffles me again and again.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 09:02 AM
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Well sex work is perfectly legal in most European countries......you can buy any variety of sex you want here. Is Europe your holy land then?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 07:59 AM
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It just bugs me when people write things that are factually untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:51 AM
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„The economy is kept afloat by printing money.“ - like time and time before? That’s not happening for the first time and for sure not for the last. „I moved to SE Asia“ - so why not be a happy Betty? If all is so fine for you there?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 11:21 AM
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For the collapse of western civilization what signs do you see here? The standard of living is higher then it ever was, life expectancy is higher then it ever was, more people have access to education and medical treatment (I know America is a special can of worms here but the west does not consist of America alone)......so what will bring the west down? I read it before but nobody ever explains it. And for sending you a bill, I take it then that you are not acquainted with tax collections and r…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 10:47 AM
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I love the feminism is not sustainable.....I think men say that for a 100 years now. But just one side note, when islamic law evolved......that was the feminism its time, Islamic law gave women rights they did not have before like the right to own things, the right to get a divorce, the right to work and keep the money ect.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 10:11 AM
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You did not bother to read, did you?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 09:54 AM
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You pick and choose....if it’s nature that you want, than why support marriage or monogamy? That’s not natural at all. Why then give fathers any rights? Why this why that? If you want nature, why not go back to live in pack in some cave?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 09:52 AM
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This is just wrong....was there child support like today, when dad has to wire mom x amount of money? No but children out of wedlock where not without rights. Actually Christians saw it as a natural right that the father (not married) had to provide for his child....so much so that parishes did provide for said children and their mothers and went after daddy for reimbursement. The mother was able to go to the church court and have the father ordered to pay. http://www.childsupportanalysis.co.uk/…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 09:01 AM
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If biology is sexist/misogynistic or not was not the matter of the discussion but if Islam is. But nice try. Is it the job of religion to „overrule“ nature? I think that’s debatable. Religion does impose many rules that are contrary to nature, so one might argue it’s only purpose is to change nature..... The point remains that punishing a woman for something because she is a woman and not punishing a man for the same thing is misogyny. And I‘m very confused why you might argue here at all? Did y…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 08:47 AM
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Thats not true, there was court ordered child support for illegitimate children long before feminism. The problem then was that the woman had to make plausible to the court that the man was the father.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 04:17 PM
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So the man has sex before marriage (against his religion/law) as well as the woman but the only one punished for said misbehavior are the woman and subsequently the child ..... talk about misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 04:06 PM
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I‘m really confused here! When did science invent a method to transfer a ~ 10 week old embryo? Or store such an embryo? Where can I read about this?
/r/MensRights06/06/21 11:10 AM
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So nothing....you ask is marriage worth it? I say no, it’s not for the woman you want to marry. What you want is getting something (kids) without giving anything (companionship, support be it emotional or financial, love ect.) and I suspect you would not want to live with this children (you know they would be always there for at least 18 years) as they would likely annoy you, like the wife. Maybe reevaluate why you think you want kids?
/r/MensRights05/06/21 05:21 PM
-5

So what would you give her?
/r/MensRights05/06/21 05:06 PM
-6

This is a really crazy! What are you saying? „I want a woman to put her life on the line and grind her body through the mill to give me (multiple?) children and I want to give her absolutely nothing in return. She shall have none of my money/assets and I don’t even want to live with her because that would be annoying (in the end I might even have to do my part and do chores or actually raise those kids!). She of course should be a good Christian wife and stay home (?) to raise the kids.“ WTF?
/r/MensRights05/06/21 04:58 PM
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