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| -9 | Feminist blogger on six-year-old 'sexual harasser': 'This is rape culture'She's saying not saying that "rape culture" is what caused the kid to do what he did. She's saying that "rape culture" is what leads the media to spin a story of a 6-year old being suspended for incessantly touching, groping, "kissing", and making sexual comments towards female clasmates as "Child suspended for 'sexual harassment' after kissing classmate." To me, it doesn't seem like she's entierly wrong. The way that the media has spun this story makes it look like the boy innocently kissed a g… | /r/MensRights | 12/12/13 06:18 PM |
| 2 | More men than women victims of intimate partner violenceI would point out that the opposition to the stalking bit is misplaced. Having "afraid" as a qualifier might be counterintuitive, but is actually really important as a way to determine whether or not someone is being stalked. Most stalking behaviors are not, in and of themselves and in many permutations, illegal. There is nothing inherently wrong with leaving unsolicited letters or phone calls, or giving unwanted gifts. Even following someone isn't illegal and can have innocent intentions. It wo… | /r/MensRights | 10/12/13 09:45 PM |
| 0 | Aron Ralston, who famously amputated his arm after being trapped in a Utah canyon - arrested for domestic violence after being punched twice by his girlfriend in the back of the head.Black's says nothing about the ultimate truth of the intent of the law - it is merely a catalogue of legal proceedings for reference. The founding fathers have varying opinions on the intent of the law, some of which agree with you, others that don't. They are merely that - opinions, just like yours. Nothing that any founding father, or any philosophical thinker in the history of humanity, has written is an ultimate truth. Point me to your favorites, I may or may not have read them, but again, i… | /r/MensRights | 10/12/13 05:42 AM |
| 0 | Aron Ralston, who famously amputated his arm after being trapped in a Utah canyon - arrested for domestic violence after being punched twice by his girlfriend in the back of the head.Given that you're the expert, what texts would you reccomend I start with? | /r/MensRights | 10/12/13 03:58 AM |
| 1 | Feminist NYT columnist: Men are responsible for women's "disinvestment" in houseworkYeah, that makes the OP's title even more confusing. Neat link. I kind of agree with both writers. While I like Marche's article and think it's an interesting take on the subject, it certianly feels pretentious and a bit detatched. The writing even has that blasè tone. Marcotte does a heavy-handed, but effective and rather funny job calling him out on some gender-based baloney that he relies on in some of his points. In any event, though interesting, neither article is super pertinent to Men's R… | /r/MensRights | 10/12/13 03:52 AM |
| 2 | Aron Ralston, who famously amputated his arm after being trapped in a Utah canyon - arrested for domestic violence after being punched twice by his girlfriend in the back of the head.No, you really don't understand what I'm saying at all. What I'm saying is that you're a poor writer. I'm not arguing with your viewpoints. I'm just saying that you're unskilled when it comes to presenting them. "I understand that you accept that grossly misapplied laws in today's society" is simple proof for my claim that you're a poor writer. That's an incomplete sentence that only hints at what you might mean. I accept that grossly misapplied laws in today's society what? That they exist? Tha… | /r/MensRights | 09/12/13 11:29 PM |
| 1 | Aron Ralston, who famously amputated his arm after being trapped in a Utah canyon - arrested for domestic violence after being punched twice by his girlfriend in the back of the head.You're misunderstanding what I'm saying. Your writing fails to separate the reality of the world from your legal philosphy. I'm not arguing against your legal philosophy (although I disagree with it.) I'm just saying that you need to make the distinction when you write. Law, right now, in real life, not in philosophy, but in the real, actual world, is unquestionably intended to DETER moral wrongs by 1) Punishing those wrongs when comitted and 2) Criminalizing precursive steps. That's not a matte… | /r/MensRights | 09/12/13 10:33 PM |
| 2 | Aron Ralston, who famously amputated his arm after being trapped in a Utah canyon - arrested for domestic violence after being punched twice by his girlfriend in the back of the head.Okay, then you just have a very conservative, though sound, legal philosophy with which I am content to disagree. I would encourage you to note the difference between what you would like the intent of the law to be and what the intent of the law actually is in future writings on the subject - it's confusing in the way you write it. The actual intent of the law is to DETER moral wrongs, or the violation of the rights of others. Punishing those who do commit these wrongs is one method of achieving… | /r/MensRights | 09/12/13 10:18 PM |
| 2 | Sports Teams in CollegeAh - what that means is that the Women's Bowling Team is a counterweight to a Mens' team for which there is no female equivalent. Even though there is no Men's Bowling Team, there are an equal number of Men's X teams and Women's Y teams. Does your school have a football team? If so, does it also have a Women's football team? That's the most likely circumstance, but if you look I garuntee that you'll find at least one men's sport for which there is no female equivalent at the same official level … | /r/MensRights | 09/12/13 10:06 PM |
| 2 | Aron Ralston, who famously amputated his arm after being trapped in a Utah canyon - arrested for domestic violence after being punched twice by his girlfriend in the back of the head.Let's apply that logically... P1) Laws that are based on the potential to cause harm are egregious to the intent of the law. P2) Driving drunk has the high potential to cause harm to one or many persons. P3) Driving drunk is not garunteed to cause harm to one or many persons. Conclusion) A law against drunk driving is egregious to the intent of the law. Do you agree with this conclusion, and believe that there should therefore be no laws against drunk driving? | /r/MensRights | 09/12/13 09:57 PM |
| 1 | Sports Teams in CollegeWhat specifically did he say about "gender equality" and Title IX as a reason for not having a men's team? If you have an email, copy the relavent sentences here so that folks can comment on the gender issue and provide more insight as to why the director might be saying what he's saying. Otherwise, you'd be better off posting in a different subreddit, as this isn't a Men's Rights-related issue. | /r/MensRights | 09/12/13 09:11 PM |
| 3 | Sports Teams in CollegeWell, first option is to make a club team. Generally there is some avenue through which you can make Student Organizations (not through the athletics department), the purpose of which can easily be playing a sport. This will be more challenging finacnially because you'll recieve less money from the school, but at my school many of our teams are club teams. I'm on a sailing team that competes at the varsity level with varsity teams from other schools and recieves some money from Student Activitie… | /r/MensRights | 09/12/13 08:42 PM |
| 3 | Aron Ralston, who famously amputated his arm after being trapped in a Utah canyon - arrested for domestic violence after being punched twice by his girlfriend in the back of the head.Ah, I see what you mean - a bit silly for an 8-month old witnessing violence to be significantly traumatized by simply witnessing the act. Perhaps it was a slippery-slope situation for the legislators - at what age is it acceptable for a child to witness violence? Surely 2 years is too old. 1 year? 10 months? Safer just to make it a blanket law, as infants in DV situations are likely at risk anyway. But yes, the witnessing bit is strange. | /r/MensRights | 09/12/13 08:36 PM |
| 8 | Feminist NYT columnist: Men are responsible for women's "disinvestment" in houseworkI'm very confused by the OP's title. It seems disengenuious. Perhaps they or someone else could enlighten me? 1) What makes this guy a feminist? He cites feminist literature and thinkers because they're relavent (he even calls one of them wrong outright), but he doesn't really seem to provide an opinion on the situation other than "divestment is good for gender equality." Given the way that he frames the article, that seems to be more of a logical consequence than a feminist argument. If men hav… | /r/MensRights | 09/12/13 08:29 PM |
| 2 | Aron Ralston, who famously amputated his arm after being trapped in a Utah canyon - arrested for domestic violence after being punched twice by his girlfriend in the back of the head.I agree, very misleading title by the OP. Shannon was arrested because Ralston says she hit him. Ralston was arrested because Shannon says he shoved her. Both of the acts of violence occured in a heated argument. Nothing indicates that one was done in any sort of self-defense. The rule about the child is there because situations like this can be more damaging if children are present because they pose a significant risk to them, therefore the sentence/charge must be more severe for detterence/pun… | /r/MensRights | 09/12/13 08:07 PM |
| 3 | This would be a great way to treat non-violent criminals...of BOTH genders.You misunderstand my question - I wasn't asking why ponyflash was under the impression that they are focusing exclusively on women (they clearly are), I was asking his/her opinion as to their rationale behind making that decision. | /r/MensRights | 26/03/13 07:55 PM |
| 2 | Mind Our Men - Irish Suicide Charity starts nationwide campaign to reduce male suicide in Ireland.This is the kind of post I like to see here. Great to see actual steps being taken to address men's issues. Thank you for posting! | /r/MensRights | 26/03/13 07:53 PM |
| 2 | This would be a great way to treat non-violent criminals...of BOTH genders.I think you'd find this interesting - a report from the VERA Institute of Justice examining programs available for incarcerated / ex-offender fathers. It's relatively new, as reports like this go. | /r/MensRights | 26/03/13 05:52 PM |
| 1 | This would be a great way to treat non-violent criminals...of BOTH genders.Why do you think that they're focusing exclusively on women in this instance? | /r/MensRights | 26/03/13 04:31 PM |
| -1 | Woman assaults man for turning down sex and ignoring herWhatever man - insult me and back out, that's fine. Have a nice day. | /r/MensRights | 19/03/13 02:14 AM |
| 3 | Woman assaults man for turning down sex and ignoring herYes it does fit the definition under PA law. That's a perfect example of attempted rape under that law. It actually doesn't - PA law requires "sexual intercourse or deviant sexual intercourse," for rape and related crimes, and none of her actions fit that definition (see my link in previous comment.) Perhaps the law is badly worded, but that's another discussion. What on earth do you think your point is here? I think that your assertion that this is attempted rape, and that a man under the same … | /r/MensRights | 19/03/13 12:20 AM |
| 16 | Woman assaults man for turning down sex and ignoring herIt's not attempted rape because what she did doesn't fit that definition under PA law. The only sexual crime (meaning, sex offender registry-worthy) that could possibly fit the definition of her actions is Indecent Assault (18 Pa. C.S. § 3126). Also, according to the text in the link here, she didn't attack him with the intent of coercing him into sex. She attacked him because she was angry that he refused sex. That's a key distinction under the law. Imagine the sexes reversed. A man wants sex. … | /r/MensRights | 18/03/13 08:39 PM |
| 0 | [meta] PSA: This subreddit is losing touch and propagating itself as irrational, rather than promoting equality and fair treatment there's a growing tone of needing to lower the status of women ratherThat's not the issue - It's "I infer that you are a Christian, and I therefore categorically reject everything you say." Or, in this case, "feminist." How I identify and how others label me is irrelevant to my point. The leap in logic, or false inference, or what have you, occurs not in calling me a feminist based on what I say, but in dismissing what I say by calling me a feminist. | /r/MensRights | 03/03/13 09:15 PM |
| 0 | [meta] PSA: This subreddit is losing touch and propagating itself as irrational, rather than promoting equality and fair treatment there's a growing tone of needing to lower the status of women ratherIt's easy to be nice and not vilify men when society generally accepts these beliefs already. Feminists in that subreddit have no need to attempt to vilify men when men will get fired from positions of authority for even suggesting that men could be better at anything. This is a really broad generalization. However, I would point out (as I think that you're trying to) that it is true that the idea that women can be perpetrators is not fully understood in modern U.S. society. We do not tend to th… | /r/MensRights | 02/03/13 11:51 PM |
| -3 | [meta] PSA: This subreddit is losing touch and propagating itself as irrational, rather than promoting equality and fair treatment there's a growing tone of needing to lower the status of women ratherInferences are not always correct. In this case, you can't relate my post history to what I've written here. I wrote what I actually feel and believe. You're applying a label to that and discrediting me based on that label that you've created and defined. That's not a valid inference or correlation. If you disagree with me, explain what, specifically, you disagree with. Don't just call me a feminist and be done with it. That's lazy and base. | /r/MensRights | 02/03/13 10:48 PM |
| -3 | [meta] PSA: This subreddit is losing touch and propagating itself as irrational, rather than promoting equality and fair treatment there's a growing tone of needing to lower the status of women ratherMy post history is irrelevant to my actual point here. By making claims about me as a person, and performing mental gymnastics to classify myself and the OP, you're avoiding having to actually engage me or my points, or defend your beliefs. You don't know me or how I identify. You're the one classifying me. In other words, you're a part of the exact same groupthink problem that the OP and I are mentioning. If you'd like to stop taking the easy way out, I'll be here. | /r/MensRights | 02/03/13 10:42 PM |
| -4 | [meta] PSA: This subreddit is losing touch and propagating itself as irrational, rather than promoting equality and fair treatment there's a growing tone of needing to lower the status of women ratherI completely agree with you. One of the most telling elements of this is the "news" posts like the one on which you commented; stories in which men are victims or survivors of some type of crime or injustice, or success stories in which injustice is overcome. These types of posts are frequent in /r/feminism as well, focusing on stories in which women are victims or survivors of some type of crime or injustice, or success stories in which injustice is overcome. The major difference between the tw… | /r/MensRights | 02/03/13 10:03 PM |
| 2 | 'Because I am a Girl'Mostly because they are perpetuated by the society's elders - men and women alike. There is a legitimate belief that keeping a girl home from school in favor of housework is more economically stable. There is a legitimate belief that one of the only ways to keep a girl safe is to marry her to a comparatively prosperous man at the age of 9-12. There is a legitimate belief that forcing a girl to have sex with a man is a way to stop her from being a lesbian. Because I Am A Girl aims to deconstruct … | /r/MensRights | 15/02/13 02:14 AM |
| 3 | 'Because I am a Girl'Probably developmentally similar to the aided societies today. 1912? You mean the year that the Titanic was launched? So the society that built the Titanic is developmentally similar to Sub-Saharan Africa today? Ok man. Whatever you say. | /r/MensRights | 15/02/13 02:11 AM |
| 2 | 'Because I am a Girl'Then I have to say that I find your blanket skepticism to be more than a little unwarranted. Skepticism is good - it is important to be critical of information that we receive. However, your basis for disbelieving that women face extreme disadvantage in the countries linked to above is that there is misinformation in the United States. You have no actual information to indicate that the hundreds of thousands of studies, reports, trips, missions, plans, and dossiers dealing with these many divers… | /r/MensRights | 15/02/13 01:36 AM |
| 5 | 'Because I am a Girl'Except you're not getting what I'm saying, around 100 years ago western society decided to unduly focus on just women and their rights, we're seeing the signs of that damage on boys and men today as males lag behind females in nearly every major way, whether it's just quality of life, to the flexibility of a person's gender related role in society. Let's zoom in on that. around 100 years ago western society decided to unduly Because I Am A Girl does not engage with western society in the slighte… | /r/MensRights | 15/02/13 12:13 AM |
| 4 | 'Because I am a Girl'Have you ever personally been to any of the countries in which Plan International works? Here's a list. http://plan-international.org/where-we-work If so, what did you do there? What was your experience? | /r/MensRights | 15/02/13 12:11 AM |
| 1 | 'Because I am a Girl'Plan International is one group that does lots of work with children in general. This is just one of their campaigns. However, they've found that girl children face specific challenges that are deeply ingrained in the societies in which they live, and affect them simply because they are girls. Hence, the name of the campaign. I agree with what you've written, but just please remember that no group can fight every problem. Plan's campaign is focusing on girls - that doesn't mean that they've "for… | /r/MensRights | 15/02/13 12:07 AM |
| -1 | 'Because I am a Girl'Most of that page, especially the "gender violence" section. We must be looking at different pages. Where, specifically, is there propaganda that says that "women are superior to men" or that "women's problems are caused by men" or that "all men are violent towards women" ? But I'm not talking only about this particular campaign. I'm talking about a general trend. This post/thread is about this particular campaign, and yet you're unable to even discuss just the one. Stop beating around the bush … | /r/MensRights | 15/02/13 12:04 AM |
| -1 | 'Because I am a Girl'Such programs frequently portray, or imply, that men oppress women, that women's problems are caused by men, that men are violent towards women, and that women are superior to men. Again, where in this campaign do you see this kind of propaganda? http://plan-international.org/girls/ | /r/MensRights | 14/02/13 11:41 PM |
| -1 | 'Because I am a Girl'I have seen increasing amounts of propaganda promoting aid for women, not because they need it more, but because they are better than men. This is not acceptable. Where in this campaign do you find propaganda that claims that women are better than men? http://plan-international.org/girls/ If aid to women comes at the price of further demonisation and defamation of men - as it increasingly does - then it is better to oppose it than to allow it to proceed without protest. How does advocating to al… | /r/MensRights | 14/02/13 10:10 PM |
| 1 | 'Because I am a Girl'You've taken that statement completely out of context. Did you actually read everything that I wrote? Or look at the links that I posted? Or read up on what the campaign specifically addresses? What you're saying is like claiming that organizations that aim to help the impoverished in Sub-Saharan Africa are making a concerted push not to help the impoverished in America. They are related issues that are motivated by different factors and require different responses. | /r/MensRights | 14/02/13 10:02 PM |
| 5 | 'Because I am a Girl'The MRM movement, as it pertains to this subreddit and the publications that it links to, is rather ethnocentric. Major issues include circumcision, legal custody battles, male imprisonment rate, gender norm deconstruction, and the lack of aid for male survivors of violence. These goals are legitimate and noble, but they are all focused on a population that is largely white, above the poverty line, and western. Look at the nations in which Plan International works. In many of these countries gir… | /r/MensRights | 14/02/13 09:08 PM |
| 3 | Yesterday was the WHO's International Day of Zero Tolerance to Female Genital Mutilation. Meanwhile, they provide a manual on how to circumcise boys.Please do supply the link, I'm intrigued. | /r/MensRights | 08/02/13 03:52 AM |
| -5 | Yesterday was the WHO's International Day of Zero Tolerance to Female Genital Mutilation. Meanwhile, they provide a manual on how to circumcise boys.Can you show me the studies that you're talking about? I've done some digging and I can't find any that match what you're talking about. | /r/MensRights | 08/02/13 03:51 AM |
| -3 | TIL in The Vagina Monologues a 13-year-old girl is raped by a 24-year old woman, and it is referred to as "a good rape" & a healing experience. When a man at a newspaper wrote an article asking whYou're insinuating that I'm an "apologist for dichotomy of gender standards." That (quote from your link) is an argument made personally against an opponent instead of against their argument. This account's time here on this forum is irrelevant to my knowledge or the knowledge of those with whom I converse. If by "bullshit play" you mean the Vagina Monologues, yes, I've read it and I've seen it performed twice, by two different casts. | /r/MensRights | 07/02/13 07:48 AM |
| -2 | TIL in The Vagina Monologues a 13-year-old girl is raped by a 24-year old woman, and it is referred to as "a good rape" & a healing experience. When a man at a newspaper wrote an article asking whThank you :) | /r/MensRights | 07/02/13 07:43 AM |
| -3 | TIL in The Vagina Monologues a 13-year-old girl is raped by a 24-year old woman, and it is referred to as "a good rape" & a healing experience. When a man at a newspaper wrote an article asking whWhat do you mean? Outside support from where? And what's "concern trolling?" | /r/MensRights | 07/02/13 07:30 AM |
| 0 | TIL in The Vagina Monologues a 13-year-old girl is raped by a 24-year old woman, and it is referred to as "a good rape" & a healing experience. When a man at a newspaper wrote an article asking whI agree on both counts. People are quick to hate - it makes us feel better about ourselves and our opinions. It's also easier to attack Ensler than it is to intelligently debunk her work. The funnies thing about the amorphous blob of word salad that follows my original comment is that nowhere do I say that I like or agree with everything that the Monologues present. I think that the play is therapeutic for those who are primary or secondary victims of violence, and is a nice thought exercise for… | /r/MensRights | 07/02/13 07:20 AM |
| -1 | Lesbian women report more rape, physical violence, or stalking by a partner than straight womenI'd also point out that those numbers refer to intimate partner violence, which includes everything from slapping to rape (see page 17.) It's a broad definition. | /r/MensRights | 07/02/13 07:08 AM |
| -6 | TIL in The Vagina Monologues a 13-year-old girl is raped by a 24-year old woman, and it is referred to as "a good rape" & a healing experience. When a man at a newspaper wrote an article asking whIf you're incapable of responding to something that you disagree with in any way other than ad hominems, then you're going to... well, actually you'll do quite fine here. Only a few folks in this subreddit like to be challenged. It's a shame you're not one of them - they're the ones who learn the most from me and whom I learn the most from. | /r/MensRights | 07/02/13 07:01 AM |
| -4 | TIL in The Vagina Monologues a 13-year-old girl is raped by a 24-year old woman, and it is referred to as "a good rape" & a healing experience. When a man at a newspaper wrote an article asking whI do my best. But around here, say anything other than a rehearsed line of MRA rhetoric and you get jumped! No critical discussion for these folks! That's not entirely true, there are 2 or 3 people here who have rational conversations with me when I respond to stuff. | /r/MensRights | 07/02/13 06:56 AM |
| -2 | TIL in The Vagina Monologues a 13-year-old girl is raped by a 24-year old woman, and it is referred to as "a good rape" & a healing experience. When a man at a newspaper wrote an article asking whActually, whether or not they had a disclaimer is besides the point. People still would be mad at the paper for allowing the work to be published. In addition, newspapers are allowed to censor content. The Hoya is not the only publication in the world through which that opinion would be shared. Their decision to remove the author from their staff is not unconstitutional or even immoral. That line gets crossed when the author is prohibited from speaking on the subject to the point where it's virt… | /r/MensRights | 07/02/13 06:53 AM |
| -3 | TIL in The Vagina Monologues a 13-year-old girl is raped by a 24-year old woman, and it is referred to as "a good rape" & a healing experience. When a man at a newspaper wrote an article asking whThere's a few false equivocations in this response. Last point first: What I am saying is free speech cuts both ways. You can say anything you want and I can say that you are a monster and should be thrown in jail for it. Both of those things are protected. Yup, free speech is protected constitutionally. I couldn't (really) prosecute you for saying those things about me. However, you are not absolved of responsibility for your words. When you are representing a larger body of work or people, you… | /r/MensRights | 07/02/13 06:45 AM |
| 3 | TIL in The Vagina Monologues a 13-year-old girl is raped by a 24-year old woman, and it is referred to as "a good rape" & a healing experience. When a man at a newspaper wrote an article asking whDiscredited how? Saying that you're "smart enough to know something" isn't an actual argument. Anyway, it's unfortunate that you feel the need to back out of a debate with personal attacks rather than actually following through and having a real discussion. I respect your frustration, but there are politer ways to exit that don't make you look like you have no idea what you're talking about. | /r/MensRights | 07/02/13 02:21 AM |
| 6 | TIL in The Vagina Monologues a 13-year-old girl is raped by a 24-year old woman, and it is referred to as "a good rape" & a healing experience. When a man at a newspaper wrote an article asking whFirst of all - statutory rape is rape just so we're clear Yup. And Ensler included a story about statutory rape in a play comprised entirely of stories about rape. So I think that she's pretty clear on that one too. Secondly - what it comes down to is that if a woman got up on stage and talked about how they were seduced and sexed up by a man - concluding it was a "good rape" - Feminists would lose their shit and all men everywhere would get accused of promoting rape culture For the thousandth t… | /r/MensRights | 07/02/13 02:18 AM |
| -16 | TIL in The Vagina Monologues a 13-year-old girl is raped by a 24-year old woman, and it is referred to as "a good rape" & a healing experience. When a man at a newspaper wrote an article asking whDo you think they would expose women to dialog that said, regarding a male-on-female rape, "IF IT WAS RAPE, it was a good rape?" Even if that was an exact quote from a survivor? If that was an exact quote from a survivor? Yes, absolutely. | /r/MensRights | 07/02/13 02:10 AM |
| 4 | TIL in The Vagina Monologues a 13-year-old girl is raped by a 24-year old woman, and it is referred to as "a good rape" & a healing experience. When a man at a newspaper wrote an article asking whYou're acting like she made up a fictional character who likes getting raped by women. You do understand that's not what's going on, right? What she's supporting is the open, uncomfortable, real discussion of the sexual violence that women face. That's why her play is open, uncomfortable, real stories of the sexual violence that women face. She didn't make the stories up. In addition, her decision to include the Coochie Snorcher story in a play that is entirely stories of sexual violence is an a… | /r/MensRights | 07/02/13 02:08 AM |
| 3 | TIL in The Vagina Monologues a 13-year-old girl is raped by a 24-year old woman, and it is referred to as "a good rape" & a healing experience. When a man at a newspaper wrote an article asking whOh I see, a play about homosexual rape of a teenager by a 24 year old woman celebrated routinely and widely by feminists isn't reflective of anything about feminists. Gotcha It's not about the "homosexual rape of a teenager by a 24 year old." It is a collection of artistic representations of real women's experiences with sex. One of them is a an experience in which a teenager suffers statutory rape at the hands of another woman. In honesty - have you seen the play, or just read about it? Art is … | /r/MensRights | 07/02/13 01:55 AM |
| -2 | TIL in The Vagina Monologues a 13-year-old girl is raped by a 24-year old woman, and it is referred to as "a good rape" & a healing experience. When a man at a newspaper wrote an article asking whAgain, see my response to Typhon - is your hypothetical play based on the real story of a real woman who really believes that her rape was a good thing? If so, I believe that feminists would see that as an illustration of a culture that teaches women that being raped is good - not as a playwright preaching that rape is good. As for "communicating that feeling is not the same as supporting it," this is disingenuous rubbish. The Monologues are artistic representations of real people's experiences … | /r/MensRights | 07/02/13 01:44 AM |
| -10 | TIL in The Vagina Monologues a 13-year-old girl is raped by a 24-year old woman, and it is referred to as "a good rape" & a healing experience. When a man at a newspaper wrote an article asking whAnd now that we've had all that analysis, what would happen if an MRA play had a scene where a man had sex with a boy and the boy described it as a "good rape?" Let's make a few assumptions about this play that you've left out. We shall first assume that 1) The play contains many other stories of rape, in which women victimize men, that all feature a survivor who identifies their experience as negative. We shall, secondly, assume that 2) Every story within this play is based on real interviews w… | /r/MensRights | 07/02/13 01:37 AM |
| 293 | TIL in The Vagina Monologues a 13-year-old girl is raped by a 24-year old woman, and it is referred to as "a good rape" & a healing experience. When a man at a newspaper wrote an article asking whFew things. The first two discuss the way in which the play should be examined and critiqued as a work of art. As with all works of art, critique is debatable. I am of the opinion that the statement that the Monologues "celebrate statutory, female-on-female rape" is a gross misinterpretation that ignores some key facts about the play. 1) The Vagina Monologues is 1 person's writing. It is not a textbook on feminist theory, and it shouldn't be read that way. It absolutely should be critiqued, as s… | /r/MensRights | 07/02/13 01:16 AM |
| -2 | It takes one to know one | Toy Soldiers on feminists and "The Nice Guys of OK Cupid"Wanting a romantic attachment is an aspiration. And just bumbling around not knowing what to do isn't going to help anyone fulfill it. So yes, there definitely are "steps" that lead towards it and "steps" that lead away from it. One needs to figure out which are the "right" ones and which the wrong. But much like other goals and aspirations, there are not clear "steps." There are tips which improve your chances, but there are no garuntees in life. These men act like they've been fraud victims, w… | /r/MensRights | 08/01/13 04:45 PM |
| -4 | It takes one to know one | Toy Soldiers on feminists and "The Nice Guys of OK Cupid"But the problem is that this isn't the thing that most of these men are complaining about. Take that scenario, and repeat it 20-30 times or more in a row. They aren't complaining she won't return their affection - they are complaining nobody will return their affection. But each of those 20-30 women is an individual person with individual preferences and reasons for their decision. They're not all actively conspiring with one another to break certain men's hearts. My problem isn't with the fact … | /r/MensRights | 08/01/13 04:37 PM |
| 1 | I know this is supposed to be funny, but, I don't like being told husbands can't do simple tasks. Discover: I'm closing my account.Ad hominem away. Whatever it takes so that you don't have to actually address me or what I'm saying. | /r/MensRights | 08/01/13 10:30 AM |
| 0 | I know this is supposed to be funny, but, I don't like being told husbands can't do simple tasks. Discover: I'm closing my account.What? This has nothing to do with "patriarchy" or whatever the hell. Television ads play into gender roles because people buy into it. That happens to men and women alike. It's not a "feminist" thing or an "MRA" thing, really - it's just annoying bullshit that we shouldn't tolerate because it moves our society backward. Are you saying that those ads aren't portraying sexist images of women? | /r/MensRights | 08/01/13 10:28 AM |
| 1 | It takes one to know one | Toy Soldiers on feminists and "The Nice Guys of OK Cupid"Ok - I'm going to disagree with this post. And now that I've written all this out, it's way longer than I meant it to be - I'm sorry about that. But, if you read the other article through and feel strongly about it, as I did, do me a favor and read what I've written here too. Then downvote away. I get that it sucks to be rejected. I really do. I'm a man and I've been rejected many, many times. Almost hilariously, we seem to live in a society where many men would kill for a date and many women wo… | /r/MensRights | 08/01/13 09:50 AM |
| 4 | I know this is supposed to be funny, but, I don't like being told husbands can't do simple tasks. Discover: I'm closing my account.I did above. The Mercedes ad portrays a woman as a moron because she's blonde and beautiful. The Axe ads portray women as vapid idiots who fall to the whim of a body spray. The Allstate ad purports that a "typical teenage girl" is a complete spoiled numbskull who can't pay attention on the road and is solely concerned with boys, gossip, and the color pink. Obviously, sexist ads target men and women in different ways. That's the whole point - they're sexist. If they portrayed women as buffoons wh… | /r/MensRights | 08/01/13 09:09 AM |
| 0 | Circumcision complications are rare? I guess 110 botched circumcisions a day is considered rare...If I ask myself the question, as an adult, would I cut off part of my body on purpose? The answer is a resounding no. Really? Because there are many adults who have things like their appendix and tonsils removed. Parts of the body that serve no function other than getting infected. The foreskin is similar - it serves no real function. Some research posits that it makes sex easier, but we all know that circumcised men have no problem having sex. There's no legitimate research that shows that it p… | /r/MensRights | 08/01/13 05:23 AM |
| -1 | The women's officer at my university is doing a 'Real Men Don't Buy Women' campaign. Sexism ensues.Still waiting. | /r/MensRights | 08/01/13 05:09 AM |
| 0 | Some copypasta you can use the next time someone asserts that "The vast majority/99% of rapists are men"That it does. There are absolutely flaws in the 99% statistic - that's extensively discussed in this book about female perpetration. Contemporary research still suggests that the majority of perpetrators of rape are male, but certainly not 99%. | /r/MensRights | 08/01/13 04:50 AM |
| 1 | Some copypasta you can use the next time someone asserts that "The vast majority/99% of rapists are men"He/She has since edited it with accurate numbers. To answer your question, it's impossible to tell because we don't know how many rapists perpetrated multiple crimes (or how many crimes they perpetrated), and we don't know how many victims of "made to penetrate" were also classified as victims of "rape." In the (unlikely, but possible based on the way the numbers are provided) event that every victim of rape was raped by the same perpetrator as someone else, and in the (unlikely, but possible ba… | /r/MensRights | 08/01/13 04:46 AM |
| 0 | Some copypasta you can use the next time someone asserts that "The vast majority/99% of rapists are men"Okay - this does make your final assessment as mathematically accurate as it can be within the confines of the CDC study. However, it no longer speaks to the issue at hand - the 99% issue. This statement: Approximately 17-18% of reported rape incidences include a female rapist, and 25% of reported rape incidences include a male victim." ...does not disprove this statement: "99% of rapists are male." Particularly because you're only dealing with reported rapes, and once again, those female rapist… | /r/MensRights | 08/01/13 04:41 AM |
| 3 | I know this is supposed to be funny, but, I don't like being told husbands can't do simple tasks. Discover: I'm closing my account.One of the few posts here that I wholeheartedly agree with. I hope you've stopped drinking Dr. Pepper as well And Miller Lite. And milk. And that you don't drive a Dodge. Or a Mercedes. Or that you insure it with Allstate. Or [use Axe] (link to any Axe commercial ever.) I could go on. My point is that this kind of sexism is rampant in advertising and media, and it targets men and women in almost equal amounts. So, don't take a stand on only this. Be conscious about ads you watch and what you con… | /r/MensRights | 08/01/13 04:31 AM |
| 0 | Some copypasta you can use the next time someone asserts that "The vast majority/99% of rapists are men"The female definition of rape includes forced envelopment orally and anally and also attempted rape. You're right - fair point. I'll edit my post. The numbers I get are more 40-50% female rapists. Based on what? | /r/MensRights | 08/01/13 04:02 AM |
| 0 | Circumcision complications are rare? I guess 110 botched circumcisions a day is considered rare...It certainly does help me understand your position, and it makes me wonder about whether or not I'll want to circumcise my child. The general consensus, from the research that I've read, is that the foreskin can be a breeding ground for bacteria and is good at picking it up from an infected anus/vagina during sex. Therefore, removing it reduces the possibility of transmission and infection. In the U.S., that can be easily combated by wearing a condom and cleaning the penis properly. In Kenya, wh… | /r/MensRights | 08/01/13 03:51 AM |
| 2 | Some copypasta you can use the next time someone asserts that "The vast majority/99% of rapists are men"I'm sorry, but there are 3 major problems with this assessment that I need to point out. The way that the CDC defines "made to penetrate" makes it impossible to accurately name all 5,451,000 men as victims of rape. These calculations falsely assume that all victims of one type of violence are not victims of another type of violence. These calculations falsely assume that all perpetrators of sexual violence only commit the act one time. On the CDC's Definition of "Forced to Penetrate TyohonBlue p… | /r/MensRights | 08/01/13 03:38 AM |
| -4 | Circumcision complications are rare? I guess 110 botched circumcisions a day is considered rare...Hope this helps. I mean, I guess. I just don't believe that I've been wronged. My parents love me, and they made a decision with my best interests in mind. It since the circumcision, it hasn't brought me any physical or psychological harm, causing no health complications or issues. I've also never contracted an STD or HIV - which, of course, could be completely coincidental. It seems like the only medically quantifiable disadvantage is that I enjoy sex "less", but there's no way, as you point ou… | /r/MensRights | 08/01/13 03:04 AM |
| -2 | Does anyone have any statistics about how many men are raped each year?CDC 2010 study puts it at about 1 in 15 for rape, 1 in 20 for other, lesser forms of sexual violence. For women, the number is somewhere between 1 in 4 and 1 in 5, and is also 1 in 20 for other sexual violence. The study does not examine perpetrators. The U.S. Justice Department figures show that 99% of rapists are male (in the U.S.). The numbers are not so severe for other forms of sexual violence (majority of perpetrators are still male, but not nearly as drastic as 99%.) Before everyone freak… | /r/MensRights | 08/01/13 02:44 AM |
| 0 | Circumcision complications are rare? I guess 110 botched circumcisions a day is considered rare...I think I know what you're referring to. There are a handful of men who think only of their own pleasure, and that absolutely threatens most feminists because it implicitly objectifies the woman - she's just a means to an end. That's different than negating pleasure altogether, though. I think most feminists would say that sex should be a mutual activity - one in which both parties aim to satisfy themselves and one another. As to whether or not that satisfaction is derived from physical pleasure… | /r/MensRights | 08/01/13 02:18 AM |
| -4 | Circumcision complications are rare? I guess 110 botched circumcisions a day is considered rare...I'm a man. I have a circumcised penis. I've seen uncircumcised ones, and I like mine much better. I'm glad that my parents did it before I was old enough to remember. It was done for purely medical reasons. I've had plenty of sex and it felt great to me. Would it have felt better if I'd never been circumcised? Maybe. I really have no way of knowing. But I'm pretty content. Edit: I'm not sure why I'm being down-voted for being circumcised. | /r/MensRights | 08/01/13 02:11 AM |
| -3 | Circumcision complications are rare? I guess 110 botched circumcisions a day is considered rare...(Though of course to a feminist, men shouldn't care about getting any pleasure out of sex, and it should be all about intimacy. Which I find to be complete bullshit.) I was agreeing with everything that you said up until this :/ I don't know any feminist who thinks that sex shouldn't involve physical pleasure. But upvotes across the board for the rest, you and Canadian4Paul are hitting the nail on the head for me. | /r/MensRights | 08/01/13 02:07 AM |
| 7 | Rape is a horrible crime, so someone made a subreddit for news stories, /r/rapenews. I propose we use the platform to also share stories of false rape accusation, because that too is an awful and relIt would be extremely prudent for that subreddit to get properly moderated, and to establish some guidelines for submission. It would be excellent to post as many stories as possible - it helps illustrate how serious the problem of sexual violence is. Some guidelines to help maximize its effectiveness: R/rapenews serves to bring to light the thousands of instances of perpetration that occur around the world every day. Post links to news articles only - no self posts. Try r/offmychest or similar … | /r/MensRights | 08/01/13 01:57 AM |
| 1 | I'm taking driver's ed, and this just pissed me off...I dunno. Ask the insurance companies. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Actually, a quick google shows that, even after recent equalizing of rates, women still pay more. | /r/MensRights | 08/01/13 01:31 AM |
| 1 | The women's officer at my university is doing a 'Real Men Don't Buy Women' campaign. Sexism ensues.Obviously some porn is produced in this way. But not the vast majority of it. That's all that I'm saying. | /r/MensRights | 07/01/13 01:38 AM |
| 1 | The women's officer at my university is doing a 'Real Men Don't Buy Women' campaign. Sexism ensues.Well, yeah, the article was meant as an introduction to the issue. You and many others here don't know much about it, which is perfectly understandable; it's hard to believe that such a thing happens here in the U.S. If you want the good stuff, though, fine. As for the other article, I can access it, I didn't realize that you couldn't. Here's some more that you can access. Chapter 14 of Sex Trafficking: A Global Perspective specifically talks about trafficking in the U.S. A collaboration from pr… | /r/MensRights | 06/01/13 06:30 AM |
| 1 | I'm taking driver's ed, and this just pissed me off...Thank you. I'm sorry for the heat - you are not the first to respond before fully reading my writing and sources here, and it's frustrating me. | /r/MensRights | 06/01/13 12:01 AM |
| 1 | I'm taking driver's ed, and this just pissed me off...I'm aware of SUVs, but it was not clear what constituted this in the literature. It's pretty clear. That's what the word utility means - your ignorance of that does not make it unclear in the literature. I was not implying that at all. I know - forgive my sarcasm. I took "utility" to include things where passenger vehicles are used as utility vehicles, like modified pickups for electricians, carpenters, and the moving of hazardous materials. I know - and I'm telling you that you took it wrong. U… | /r/MensRights | 05/01/13 11:54 PM |
| 1 | I'm taking driver's ed, and this just pissed me off...I am not seeing in the study that they are using the DoT's definition. oookaay. The survey that they bring numbers from is the Nationwide Household Travel Survey. Guess who administers that survey? Oh, right, the DoT.. But you're right, they're probably not using their own definitions. How can we know!? while their own includes utility vehicles, Do you know what SUV stands for? Sport Utility Vehicle. That's an example of what Utility means in reference to cars. It's a classification of car, mean… | /r/MensRights | 05/01/13 11:38 PM |
| 1 | I'm taking driver's ed, and this just pissed me off...No, they're not. U.S. Dept. of Transportation Definition of Passenger Vehicles U.S. Dept. of Transportation Definition of Commercial Vehicles Cabs fit squarely into the latter. So do ambulances, police squadcars/paddy wagons, and others too. | /r/MensRights | 05/01/13 11:07 PM |
| 2 | I'm taking driver's ed, and this just pissed me off...Non-commercial male drivers shouldn't be thrown under the same bus. ugh. They're not, the study focuses on passenger vehicles. It says that in the introduction. Why does no one bother to read the studies? Everyone here goes on and on about providing sources and stats, but then when you do people either completely misread them or just ignore them entirely. Edit: Here, look. Page iv. The numbered pages haven't even started yet. Executive summary. First sentence, second paragraph. This report uses … | /r/MensRights | 05/01/13 11:01 PM |
| 0 | I'm taking driver's ed, and this just pissed me off...Fine, whatever. I don't really care about the rates. I'm just saying that this isn't discrimination or sexism. | /r/MensRights | 05/01/13 10:59 PM |
| 1 | The women's officer at my university is doing a 'Real Men Don't Buy Women' campaign. Sexism ensues.Oh but you see by not having enough money, someone could be "using their vulnerability". This sentence is incomplete and doesn't make sense. Elaborate? So any exchange where one person has more of some kind of power can be defined as exploitation and thus trafficking, which opens the door for far more than what is actual trafficking. ...no. Ok, you're clearly having some literacy issues. I know it's because you really want those evil feminists to be taking away your God-given right to buy sex fr… | /r/MensRights | 05/01/13 10:35 PM |
| 2 | The women's officer at my university is doing a 'Real Men Don't Buy Women' campaign. Sexism ensues.Exploitation includes prostitution, and is defined by um, exploitation Um, if you, ya know, actually read it, you'll see: by means of the threat or use of force or other forms of coercion, of abduction, of fraud, of deception, of the abuse of power or of a position of vulnerability or of the giving or receiving of payments or benefits to achieve the consent of a person having control over another person ...is the defining bit. If a woman independently decides to work as a prostitute, it does not… | /r/MensRights | 05/01/13 09:07 PM |
| 3 | How often are men falsely accused of rape?Chances are they were raped, but I wouldn't go so far as to believe them, at least not until I hear my other friend's side of the story. You don't have to, though. You don't need to draw any conclusions about anything, because, as you put it yourself: I know I'm not a judge or a juror Therefore I wouldn't say "I believe you" Unfortunately, even if this is a lie, it's the absolute most helpful thing that you can say to a person who says they've been assaulted. I wish you'd reconsider your positio… | /r/MensRights | 05/01/13 08:40 PM |
| 3 | How often are men falsely accused of rape?Well I don't know about you, but I have a personal moral policy to trust and support my friends, especially when they need me the most. My belief in a friend's disclosure will not send another friend to prison. It will not bankrupt them. It will not physically injure them. If I've been properly educated on how to help a survivor, it also won't emotionally injure them, because I'll know to keep it to myself and not to publicly take sides about it. You can have all the doubts that you want. Just d… | /r/MensRights | 05/01/13 08:29 PM |
| 3 | How often are men falsely accused of rape?That's why educating people on how to properly help those who come forward about rape is extremely important. Far, far more important, I believe, than kibbitzing over dicey "false report" statistics. The disbelief of survivors is a men's rights issue and a feminist issue alike. | /r/MensRights | 05/01/13 08:19 PM |
| 2 | How often are men falsely accused of rape?Of course, false accusations are hard for the accused. But take a closer look at the tip sheets I've provided. You can believe Jane without bearing any active ill will towards Mark. In fact, that's probably the best thing for Jane, too. When Jane tells you about what happened, understand that, if she is telling the truth, it is taking a tremendous amount of courage to 1) recognize what happened to her 2) recognize that her attacker is the one at fault, and 3) recognize that she needs help and su… | /r/MensRights | 05/01/13 07:36 PM |
| 7 | How often are men falsely accused of rape?No, not based on my personal opinion, both the criticism of Koss's 1 in 4 and her conceding were both published I don't know what that is, and I never talked about it here - you're the one that brought it up. please dont get angry with me because you have information gaps and presented biased numbers here. The numbers that I presented come from the FBI and the Justice Dept., or are numbers that I pulled from other comments within this thread. I'm simply making the point that you're more likely t… | /r/MensRights | 05/01/13 06:07 PM |
| 1 | The women's officer at my university is doing a 'Real Men Don't Buy Women' campaign. Sexism ensues.Are there slave markets in the western world that I'm not aware of? Apparently. The U.S. is the second largest destination (behind Germany) for female and child sex slaves. It's not a purely third-world problem. | /r/MensRights | 05/01/13 06:00 PM |
| -2 | The women's officer at my university is doing a 'Real Men Don't Buy Women' campaign. Sexism ensues.They specifically say that they're not talking about prostitution. Our very own Students’ Union officers helped to popularise the campaign, showing their own photos from the windows of the Students’ Union, for all on the concourse to see. However, it appears that the society’s popular campaigning slogan was misunderstood by many to be anti-prostitution rather than anti-trafficking. They said that they knew that would happen, but that they wanted a short and catchy slogan once they became an inte… | /r/MensRights | 05/01/13 05:57 PM |
| -4 | The women's officer at my university is doing a 'Real Men Don't Buy Women' campaign. Sexism ensues.A documentary, Sex & Money, discusses this very fact. Here's an article about the issue. Here's a scholarly article as well. Note that all of these are about the U.S. It's an established fact that human trafficking fuels pornography. Professional port stars do as well. I personally don't believe that means that all pornography should be abolished, but it certainly makes me think twice about what and how much pornography I choose to consume. | /r/MensRights | 05/01/13 05:56 PM |
| 9 | How often are men falsely accused of rape?Thats largely why these "rapes" are unreported - because they are not rapes. Again, based on what? Your own personal opinion? Because from the extensive work that I've done in survivor advocacy, for both men and women, the reasons that they don't report are horrific and extremely legitimate. All that you're really demonstrating to me is that you don't know anything about the way that rape affects a person. I think its safe to say that false accusations are far more common than rape. Feminists ro… | /r/MensRights | 05/01/13 05:44 PM |
| 7 | How often are men falsely accused of rape?but you haven't factored in false accusations that were made out side the judicial system I wasn't under the impression that those were what is frequently discussed here. Falsely, but unofficially, accusing someone of rape is a despicable and mean thing to do, and it can certainly destroy friendships and relationships, but it doesn't ruin one's life in the very real financial and litigious ways that an actual false charge does. Of course, it's important to educate about the severity of accusing … | /r/MensRights | 05/01/13 04:42 PM |
| 0 | I'm taking driver's ed, and this just pissed me off...Yeah, that's what it says. But because women drive less, they get in fewer accidents overall. Therefore, men have higher accident rates. This isn't complicated, or even really arguable. At least do me the courtesy of reading what I've written before you respond. | /r/MensRights | 05/01/13 10:02 AM |
| 0 | I'm taking driver's ed, and this just pissed me off...It is discrimination in the literal sense of the word. Discrimination is not inherently bad. We discriminate on an infinite number of factors every day, we are doing nothing wrong when we do that. What you disagree with is the way that the term "discrimination" is used in this context. Oh geez. I KNOW. I've said this myself, before you got here, 3 times in my comments. Read the exchange between myself and Miracle_Fruit - you know, the one that you've injected yourself into? It could provide some… | /r/MensRights | 05/01/13 10:00 AM |
| 2 | I'm taking driver's ed, and this just pissed me off...Though your all-caps intro of "FALSE" is convincing, may I ask for your source? Only focusing on the overall number of accidents is misleading to say the least, but that's exactly what the first study you cited did. Did you bother to read the study? It does anything but that. It states that men are involved in more accidents at all levels of severity, but that women are 26% more likely to be involved in injurious accidents and 16% more likely to be involved in an accident involving police. There… | /r/MensRights | 05/01/13 09:55 AM |
| 0 | I'm taking driver's ed, and this just pissed me off...No, using guns Huh? Where do guns come into this? I'm really confused now. These "mandated, maximum" allowable initial insurance rates will simply levy costs onto other drivers trying to obtain insurance rates (if they are actually below the market rate) I don't know enough about the way insurance works (and, unless you're an insurance agent, I highly doubt that you do either) to enter into a debate on this. My posts were intended to point out that the use of the word "discrimination" here is in… | /r/MensRights | 05/01/13 09:28 AM |
| 0 | I'm taking driver's ed, and this just pissed me off...Why should women be forced to pay for risk better allocated to males? I don't know. I don't think they should. I never said that at all - you're putting words into my mouth. I think that it would be nice if insurers had a mandated, maximum allowable initial insurance rate based on the accident rate of the area in which the applicant lives and the car that they plan on driving. Then, rates rise and fall from there. Companies can offer lower starting rates as selling points. Sex doesn't have to ha… | /r/MensRights | 05/01/13 09:13 AM |
| 13 | How often are men falsely accused of rape?The data is extremely hard to gather for a number of reasons. Here's a grain of salt to take with every false report statistic, however: Rape is one of the most underreported crimes, by male and female survivors alike. Stigma, shame. victim-blaming, blackmail, intimacy with the perpetrator, and threats of further abuse, among other things, keep male and female survivors from coming forward. This means that even if we had a study with a holistic definition of false report, that number of false re… | /r/MensRights | 05/01/13 08:06 AM |
| 3 | I'm taking driver's ed, and this just pissed me off...Yes, it's different, but you're missing the point of the analogy. In it, the bankers are practicing discrimination in the classical definition; they are thinking critically and making a safe assumption about a group of people based on legitimate prior knowledge. The same thing is happening here, and it doesn't suddenly become prejudiced discrimination when it involves a pre-determined trait. If it were the case that black people got into more car accidents on average, would you be in favor of ha… | /r/MensRights | 05/01/13 07:42 AM |
| 0 | Feminist Ghitis (author of "Are Men Stupid?"): "Men see improvements in the status of women as a challenge to their own. Sexual assaults by gangs of self-congratulating, hyperventilating men ... amouThank you. I love how I'm getting down-voted, but no one has actually challenged what I've said. People here often get so worked up without actually thinking critically, fueling the false perception that the entire MR movement is a knee-jerk load of nonsense. If I were a casual observer going off of this post alone, I'd feel inclined to agree. | /r/MensRights | 05/01/13 06:26 AM |
| 7 | This happened to me today. I can't believe how ridiculous these double standards are. [Rant]Later, I posted a rant status on Facebook about how I wasn't the bad guy for slapping her, because what she was doing was way worse, not to mention that it was a last resort, not an immediate action. This was your only mistake. Facebook isn't a personal diary - it's a public forum. If you're frustrated about something, that's probably the last place that you want to talk about it. Imagine that you're a company, and Facebook is the homepage of your website. Be proactive about what does and doesn'… | /r/MensRights | 05/01/13 04:58 AM |
| 2 | I'm taking driver's ed, and this just pissed me off...Let's examine another definition, again from Webster: pre·con·ceive transitive verb \ˌprē-kən-ˈsēv\: to form (as an opinion) prior to actual knowledge or experience <preconceived notions> Now, your statement: the insurance company knows little about a young man applying for car insurance for the first time, so they use their preconceived opinion of men in general. Clearly, the decision to apply a higher rate (A.K.A. "their opinion of men") is based on actual knowledge (data like that I mention) … | /r/MensRights | 05/01/13 04:50 AM |
| 2 | I'm taking driver's ed, and this just pissed me off...Well now we're getting into semantics - but let's explore it, language is important. This is for you too, Lyn87. We have two words in play here: sexism and discrimination. Gonna use Mirriam Webster. sex·ism noun \ˈsek-ˌsi-zəm\: prejudice or discrimination based on sex So, there are two defining words in this definition: prejudice and discrimination. Let's look at the first. 1prej·u·dice noun \ˈpre-jə-dəs\: (1) : preconceived judgment or opinion (2) : an adverse opinion or leaning formed without … | /r/MensRights | 05/01/13 03:43 AM |
| 8 | I'm taking driver's ed, and this just pissed me off...This is incompatible with the recent mandates of equal health insurance rates for men and women. Because we have that, we must also mandate equal car insurance rates between genders. This isn't really debatable, the two are perfectly analogous. I don't disagree - the rates should be equal. I'm not arguing that. What I am arguing is that people shouldn't feel that the insurance companies are "out to get" men, or are practicing "discrimination." They're just trying to make as much money as possibl… | /r/MensRights | 05/01/13 01:20 AM |
| -1 | Feminist Ghitis (author of "Are Men Stupid?"): "Men see improvements in the status of women as a challenge to their own. Sexual assaults by gangs of self-congratulating, hyperventilating men ... amouI'm not sure what people are finding offensive about this article, other than the fact that it's by a feminist and is about women's issues. She's comparing Hilary Clinton and Nirbhaya's hospitilizations not because she believes that Clinton's illness is equally tragic or anything: she's showing them as opposites, as the polar extremes of the path that women in the world today have. One of influence and power akin to that which men have traditionally held, or one where being the helpless, innocen… | /r/MensRights | 05/01/13 01:16 AM |
| 46 | I'm taking driver's ed, and this just pissed me off...That's not based on sexism: that's based on data. Rather than crying sexism, I just hopped on Google and looked at the first few studies to pop up. At the time of that study, men drive significantly more than women (an average of 5,392 miles more per year). Therefore, they're exposed to more accidents. Simple. However, other research shows that young men are significantly more likely to engage in risky driving behavior. This includes speeding, driving aggressively, turning left before oncoming t… | /r/MensRights | 05/01/13 12:52 AM |
| 2 | On male rape victim ratesRead again after my updates - I'm sorry to completely rewrite it, but I noticed some other errors and wanted to make it clearer. | /r/MensRights | 03/01/13 07:07 AM |
| 2 | On male rape victim ratesI'm shitty with formatting. Please excuse all the incoming ninja edits- I'm going to try to rewrite it so that it's easier to read and understand. | /r/MensRights | 03/01/13 06:40 AM |
| 3 | On male rape victim ratesOk, I wrote this hastily at first and have completely rewritten it here. If there are any comments between now and when I start, sorry for pulling the ninja edit. Numbers are all the same, though. There are significant problems with this analysis of the CDC study. Let's first examine exactly what we mean by forced to penetrate. When folks here say that it should be defined as rape, my understanding is that they mean something like: When a man is forced to penetrate a partner (male or female) ora… | /r/MensRights | 03/01/13 06:22 AM |
| 0 | Umm... Why is this woman on Maury and not sitting in a jail cell on the sex offender's list?Haha I'm glad I got the same response that you've given everyone else who deals with you in the last two hours. I'd love to see an actual link to the debate instead of this POS poster. I'd be happy to debate you. Also, yes, "hate speech." Calling me a "retard" as if suffering from a mental illness was an insult is absolutely targeted language against those with a medical disability. You're attempting to insult me by comparing me to disabled people. That's the definition of hate speech. | /r/MensRights | 29/12/12 07:54 PM |
| 3 | Umm... Why is this woman on Maury and not sitting in a jail cell on the sex offender's list?You're completely uneducated about sexual violence, then. Given the fact that you opened with an insult and hate speech, and that your 2-hour old account has done nothing but attack others in the same way and promote your dumb website, I know that you're not going to listen to anything that I say, because you're not here to do that. So this response isn't for you - it's for the other (and I'm starting to feel, very few) rational people here. Let's examine this statement: A crime has been committ… | /r/MensRights | 29/12/12 07:44 PM |
| 1 | Umm... Why is this woman on Maury and not sitting in a jail cell on the sex offender's list?I didn't realize it was a problem to talk about a particular man or woman as a perpetrator. We are talking about a woman not women. But you're also completely ignoring a man who needs help. As a MRA, shouldn't that be the first priority? I don't think pointing out double standards and striving for justice hurts the image of the community. I also don't think wanting a rapist to be in prison can be twisted to "female-negative". Or I guess it can by some delusional people. What is damaging to the i… | /r/MensRights | 29/12/12 07:26 PM |
| 2 | Umm... Why is this woman on Maury and not sitting in a jail cell on the sex offender's list?What? That makes no sense. Punishing the woman doesn't undo the trauma that he's suffered in any way. We are talking about a very specific instance here, in which a crime has already been committed - the damage has already been done. The order of action and attention should be 1) help the survivor, 2) seek justice if appropriate. If the survivor does not want to seek legal action, it's he and his family's right to decide not to do that, especially because that process can cause even more damage. | /r/MensRights | 29/12/12 07:18 PM |
| 2 | Umm... Why is this woman on Maury and not sitting in a jail cell on the sex offender's list?Bounses? He was raped. Receiving help for that is a bonus now? | /r/MensRights | 29/12/12 04:02 PM |
| -5 | Emotional ManipulationThis is a Men's Rights subreddit, correct? Not a "FeminismIsTheDevil" subreddit? Where's the men's rights in what you've written? | /r/MensRights | 29/12/12 10:25 AM |
| 7 | Umm... Why is this woman on Maury and not sitting in a jail cell on the sex offender's list?Why didn't you include the rest of my sentence? You're eliminating the context. The focus should be on the survivor, not the perpetrator. Most of the rapes committed against women are committed against them by men, but when feminists start to talk about men as perpetrators, everyone here loses their shit. But it's OK for us to talk about women as perpetrators as if it's something different? Rubbish. Focus on the people who need help. Of course rapists should be put away, but they often aren't be… | /r/MensRights | 29/12/12 09:57 AM |
| 2 | Umm... Why is this woman on Maury and not sitting in a jail cell on the sex offender's list?That's correct - but like I said: The police aren't sitting around watching Maury looking for sex offenders The DA could pursue this, if he/she even knew about it. You can't honestly expect our police force to constantly scan the airwaves for admissions of guilt to a crime. If the family has decided that they do not want to press charges, then that's their choice not to do so. Again: There are many, many reasons why that might not have happened - stigma against male victims is one of them, but i… | /r/MensRights | 29/12/12 09:47 AM |
| -8 | Tragic rape/murder of a woman in Delhi = r/mensrights is a misogynistic shithole, "not even once". Well, that's /r/worldnews for you I guess.Well, to be fair, I don't honestly see any posts here about the horrible situations facing women in Egypt and New Deli. Men are raping, groping, assaulting, and harassing women in Middle Eastern countries to the point where it's an epidemic, but that never gets talked about here (unless someone insults you guys). Now, there's a totally legit response to this - This is a men's rights subreddit, and while the issues facing women in those countries are completely legitimate and tragic, they aren't … | /r/MensRights | 29/12/12 03:56 AM |
| 25 | Umm... Why is this woman on Maury and not sitting in a jail cell on the sex offender's list?I've seen this too, and it made me similarly angry. I'd point out, however, that this video is not a legal confession. From my understanding, it's an admission, and it can be used as evidence (and very strong evidence at that), but is not, in and of itself, proof of a crime. In addition, someone involved needs to press charges against the woman in order for action to be taken. The police aren't sitting around watching Maury looking for sex offenders; someone has to put this to their attention. T… | /r/MensRights | 29/12/12 03:50 AM |
| 0 | "The women's movement figured out a long time ago that being directly ordered around by commercials, magazines and music is dehumanizing. When will men figure that out?" (Spoken word poem [4:18])[X-post from OneY]80% of the men raped via envelopment(lifetime numbers) reported a female rapist. The study doesn't give a statistic of men who were forced to penetrate. It gives a statistic of men who suffered "other sexual abuse," a category that includes forced penetration, but is not only forced penetration. I'm still not seeing how you make the leap. My original statement is that men commit violence against women because they have been abused (often by women). That's still untrue by your own sources, ignori… | /r/MensRights | 30/11/12 07:43 AM |
| 1 | "The women's movement figured out a long time ago that being directly ordered around by commercials, magazines and music is dehumanizing. When will men figure that out?" (Spoken word poem [4:18])[X-post from OneY]Finally, a legitimate comment. Thank you. I suppose that's identical to female rapists. Sort of. Again, there are portions of female rapists that do what they do with ulterior motivations - power and control, like I mentioned before. In addition, female assaulters tend to target younger children, like many of your sources cite - I don't know enough about the psychology of female child abusers to make a statement to that regard. That said, many females who perpetrate rape and sexual violence do s… | /r/MensRights | 30/11/12 07:11 AM |
| 1 | "The women's movement figured out a long time ago that being directly ordered around by commercials, magazines and music is dehumanizing. When will men figure that out?" (Spoken word poem [4:18])[X-post from OneY]What makes the men who rape because of the "social ecological model" different then other men who don't? The major difference is that the men I'm discussing don't believe that what they're doing is rape. They believe that their victim "was asking for it" or "enjoyed it" or "really wanted it" or "tricked them into doing it." There is a psychology of perpetration that derives pleasure, sexual or otherwise, from the understood, meditated act of rape. Other times, rape is a tool of war, or of establ… | /r/MensRights | 30/11/12 06:13 AM |
| 1 | "The women's movement figured out a long time ago that being directly ordered around by commercials, magazines and music is dehumanizing. When will men figure that out?" (Spoken word poem [4:18])[X-post from OneY]No, that isn't what I said either. Again, with the putting of the words in the mouth. Some men's pursuit of sex is informed by their beliefs about masculinity. These men are more likely to think first about their own desires and social role and second about whether or not their partner has consented. They feel like they are supposed to "score" because they bought the drinks, or the girl was dressed a certain way (so she wants it too), or because she was flirting with him earlier, or because they… | /r/MensRights | 30/11/12 05:38 AM |
| 3 | This mentality drives me nuts! (xpost from r/4chan)Its 4chan dude, that's .2 on their offensive scale on a good day, Yeah, but this is a subreddit which, according to the moderation rules, outlaws hate speech as one of its core principles. The OP shouldn't have posted this here; they can engage on the very valid topic of chivalry in other ways. My theory is people think they've earn't the weight and thus deserve the remarks. ...why does someone ever deserve those remarks? If someone is obese, there's no need for anyone to make fun of them for it… | /r/MensRights | 30/11/12 02:03 AM |
| -13 | This mentality drives me nuts! (xpost from r/4chan)You know what mentality drives me nuts? The fact that the woman's weight is considered relevant, and that the author of this post is using hate speech against someone who offers their seat to someone else. There are plenty of ways to discuss the double-standard of chivalry without calling people fat or faggots. Also, I agree with Chowley_1 and Darckoo. | /r/MensRights | 30/11/12 01:39 AM |
| 1 | "The women's movement figured out a long time ago that being directly ordered around by commercials, magazines and music is dehumanizing. When will men figure that out?" (Spoken word poem [4:18])[X-post from OneY]Well said. I'd add that feminists oppose MRA's when they spread malicious lies about women and feminists. Non-bigoted MRA's like yourself should be doing the same. | /r/MensRights | 30/11/12 12:48 AM |
| 0 | "The women's movement figured out a long time ago that being directly ordered around by commercials, magazines and music is dehumanizing. When will men figure that out?" (Spoken word poem [4:18])[X-post from OneY]Much of this response is you putting words in my mouth and misconstruing what I've said. I'm going to respond, point by point, without the sarcasm and aggression that you've felt the need to include. I ask that you read only the words that I write; don't read beyond them. Try to understand what I'm saying rather than seeking a way to twist it to suit your beliefs. This traditional myth that boys become men not by becoming adult but by proving themselves through actions and deeds is not something… | /r/MensRights | 30/11/12 12:44 AM |
| 16 | How I advocate part 1: Let's talk about "Men's rights".Second: these are men's issues. There is no need to be constantly focusing on women; by doing so we're only perpetuating the myth that men are not victims of social inequalities. This is my favorite bit. My biggest gripe with MRA's is the common insistence on attacking feminists and women's issues. Focusing exclusively on men makes points more credible, understandable, and solution-focused rather than problem-focused. Third (A crucial point): If we frame all issues as if they have something to d… | /r/MensRights | 29/11/12 11:44 PM |
| 1 | "The women's movement figured out a long time ago that being directly ordered around by commercials, magazines and music is dehumanizing. When will men figure that out?" (Spoken word poem [4:18])[X-post from OneY]I agree- it is stupid, and it's important to guard oneself from advertising. But this doesn't just come from ads; there are millions of these messages coming from all sources on a regular basis. And there are plenty of studies on the subliminal effects of advertising that show that they do have a real effect on people's self-image and thinking; particularly in teens and young adults. I think that's absolutely worth getting frustrated about. | /r/MensRights | 29/11/12 11:23 PM |
| 1 | "The women's movement figured out a long time ago that being directly ordered around by commercials, magazines and music is dehumanizing. When will men figure that out?" (Spoken word poem [4:18])[X-post from OneY]Because what you're asserting is that men will be violent without provocation, without having been abused and without mental disability. That's not what I'm asserting at all. You're putting words in my mouth and then challenging me to defend them. I'm saying that a sizeable portion of men who commit rape against women do so because of social influences leading them to conflate their masculinity with their pursuit of sex with women. These men seek sex regardless of the consent that they receive. … | /r/MensRights | 29/11/12 11:21 PM |
| 1 | "The women's movement figured out a long time ago that being directly ordered around by commercials, magazines and music is dehumanizing. When will men figure that out?" (Spoken word poem [4:18])[X-post from OneY]In theory, men's and women's issues should be given equal priority. But I don't feel as though the Men's Rights movement is being heard. Society at large is either not hearing about our issues or just doesn't care. I'd agree, but there are many reasons why that's the case. One of which is that the MRMovement is so splintered and has so many conflicting beliefs. The most extreme MRA's actively believe that all women are actively seeking to destroy and enslave men. Unfortunately, those MRA's are o… | /r/MensRights | 29/11/12 08:46 PM |
| 2 | "The women's movement figured out a long time ago that being directly ordered around by commercials, magazines and music is dehumanizing. When will men figure that out?" (Spoken word poem [4:18])[X-post from OneY]Well I'm glad that you have that understanding of the phrase. Miller Light disagrees with you. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUJ36nFdOyg This is what he's speaking against. That commercial implies that your choice of beer and luggage are directly tied to your masculinity, and that the barometer of your masculinity are hot women and your bros. I call B.S. | /r/MensRights | 29/11/12 08:36 PM |
| 1 | "The women's movement figured out a long time ago that being directly ordered around by commercials, magazines and music is dehumanizing. When will men figure that out?" (Spoken word poem [4:18])[X-post from OneY]I really don't think he is. When I first starting learning about women's issues, that was my initial reaction as well. But I'm sure that's the way that young MRA's feel as well - when you're first introduced to something that you've never thought about, it kind of consumes you. Over time, however, I've become more holistic in my views, and it's easy to see the way that men's and women's issues are so strongly related to one another. That's why I enjoy coming here - it occasional helps build on t… | /r/MensRights | 29/11/12 08:20 PM |
| 1 | "The women's movement figured out a long time ago that being directly ordered around by commercials, magazines and music is dehumanizing. When will men figure that out?" (Spoken word poem [4:18])[X-post from OneY]He's speaking more specifically to the phrase "man up" in reference to being less of a woman. The idea that men are supposed to be emotionless, can't have feelings, can't cry, can't love "feminine" pursuits, can't hate "masculine" pursuits, can't love other men, or dislike sex with women, or not have lots of sex with women, or that we can only be men if we drink a certain brand of beer. He's also saying that he hates the fact that being tough and standing up for your values is a "masculine" thin… | /r/MensRights | 29/11/12 08:15 PM |
| 1 | "The women's movement figured out a long time ago that being directly ordered around by commercials, magazines and music is dehumanizing. When will men figure that out?" (Spoken word poem [4:18])[X-post from OneY]You truly believe that men are only violent against women because they've been abused by women? I'd love to see the sources on that claim. | /r/MensRights | 29/11/12 08:11 PM |
| 1 | Making a false rape claim apparently isn't a crime to the Univ. of Cincinnati policeExcuse me, did I say anything about "institutionalizing misandry"? Not at all. However, you're talking about an institution taking a step that you believe to be misandrist. I'm simply pointing out that I doubt that a double standard against men had anything to do with the university's decision. Your last paragraph evinces a lack of understanding about this area of the law and the practices of law and order personnel. You would do well to study my blog for a few weeks before opining on this subje… | /r/MensRights | 29/11/12 08:09 PM |
| 2 | "The women's movement figured out a long time ago that being directly ordered around by commercials, magazines and music is dehumanizing. When will men figure that out?" (Spoken word poem [4:18])[X-post from OneY]What do you disagree with? | /r/MensRights | 29/11/12 08:05 PM |
| 1 | "The women's movement figured out a long time ago that being directly ordered around by commercials, magazines and music is dehumanizing. When will men figure that out?" (Spoken word poem [4:18])[X-post from OneY]Why? Because it implies that rapist is our natural state. I feel like that's reading too much into the statement. Follow me on this for a minute; Some men rape. Not all, or even most; the most damning statistics are about 1 in 20 US men have committed rape, others show far fewer. Not only men rape. However, there are men who commit or have committed rape. That's a fact. Of those men who commit rape, a large portion of them target women. Some men target other men, or young children. But we're jus… | /r/MensRights | 29/11/12 08:03 PM |
| 2 | "The women's movement figured out a long time ago that being directly ordered around by commercials, magazines and music is dehumanizing. When will men figure that out?" (Spoken word poem [4:18])[X-post from OneY]There's no reason he can't have both feminist ideals and wish for the ability to freely express himself without being judged unmanly for it. That's what I'm saying. I'm pointing out that this sentiment is a feminist sentiment. I'm illustrating that there are huge similarities between the issues that posters here care about and those that feminists care about. Read what I wrote more carefully. I'm pointing out that he is a feminist, and that him being a feminist is a good thing, because male femi… | /r/MensRights | 29/11/12 07:44 PM |
| -1 | "The women's movement figured out a long time ago that being directly ordered around by commercials, magazines and music is dehumanizing. When will men figure that out?" (Spoken word poem [4:18])[X-post from OneY]This makes no sense... How does teaching someone to be what they are (teach a monkey to be a monkey, I think it will figure it out on its own) decrease violence? It's not about teaching men to physically and biologically be male; as you point out, that happens naturally. I'm speaking of the social role of "man," which is something that men get educated on every day. We see examples of male behavior by our fathers, brothers, friends, teachers, video games, television shows, news media, music, and… | /r/MensRights | 28/11/12 10:32 PM |
| -3 | Making a false rape claim apparently isn't a crime to the Univ. of Cincinnati policeStandard operating procedure or not, it is wrong. My point is that the college isn't going out of its way to institutionalize misandry: it's simply opting to use its own conduct system rather than the state or federal one, as it does in all cases that it can. Just as important: this woman will have learned nothing from this -- she retains her anonymity, she receives no punishment. There's nothing to suggest that she won't be going through university conduct proceedings; if anything, the fact tha… | /r/MensRights | 28/11/12 07:26 PM |
| 3 | Video Game Design: Where are the Women?This is crazy; the narrator doesn't respond to the original article by rationally deconstructing it, but by repeatedly calling the author a "white knight" and a "manginia." Right there, he has belittled someone for putting their beliefs into writing, and he has attempted to insult him by comparing him to a woman. How is that acceptable? He then goes on to mock the article rather than actually deconstructing it. He just reads portions of it in funny voices and laughs at them while insulting the a… | /r/MensRights | 28/11/12 07:09 PM |
| 1 | "The women's movement figured out a long time ago that being directly ordered around by commercials, magazines and music is dehumanizing. When will men figure that out?" (Spoken word poem [4:18])[X-post from OneY]Does the media's portrayal of men being naturally violent increase violence in men? Or at least an expectation of them to be more aggressive than women? Of course it fucking does, and that's a sad truth. EXACTLY. Extending that logic, this is why I personally don't take so much issue with the "teach men not to rape" line. Materials that say "teach our boys better" are pointing out this same fact: that men are conditioned from a young age to assert themselves, often through violence. Then, when t… | /r/MensRights | 28/11/12 06:59 PM |
| 2 | "The women's movement figured out a long time ago that being directly ordered around by commercials, magazines and music is dehumanizing. When will men figure that out?" (Spoken word poem [4:18])[X-post from OneY]I'm sure that I'm going to get downvoted to oblivion, but I'd call this guy a feminist. "How many boys have to kill themselves before this country acknowledges the problem? How many women have to be abused? How many trans people have to get assaulted? We teach boys how to wear the skin of a man, but we also teach them how to raise that skin like a flag and draw blood for it." This is what feminists today agree with. Especially younger, male feminists like myself. A whole wing of the feminist tho… | /r/MensRights | 28/11/12 06:01 PM |
| 9 | This message is disturbing but over 5k don't think so.Actually, rapists convince themselves all the time that what they're doing isn't wrong. A common theme in the stories of many survivors is that their attacker told them that they "were just kidding around" or something to that effect. Found this bit that talks about some of the research into male perpetrator's responses to their acts and female enjoyment - they genuinely convince themselves and their victims that what happened was O.K. Secondly, most crimes are crimes of opportunity. There is no… | /r/MensRights | 28/11/12 05:45 PM |
| 12 | Death Penalty suggested for men who kill women [Australia]. How about for murder, if anything?Why is this post getting upvoted? The entire story is based on a remark from an estranged victim of a horrifying crime, and her quote never mentioned men in the first place. The newspaper sensationalized the headline, and then the OP sensationalized that into the title of this post. How is it that this post has 88% upvotes? Are people really just breezing by and upvoting the link based on the title alone? | /r/MensRights | 28/11/12 05:36 PM |
| 3 | Making a false rape claim apparently isn't a crime to the Univ. of Cincinnati policeMany college police forces do everything in their power to avoid charging their students for less serious offenses. That's common practice. They prefer to put students through in-house disciplinary channels because it 1) looks better for the university, 2) flows more naturally with the student's education, and 3) is believed to be more productive and reformative than the prison system. Though false claims are serious, this particular one seems like a poor decision that got out of hand. There was… | /r/MensRights | 28/11/12 05:28 PM |
| 3 | Touching your wife with your morning wood in bed? That's apparently rape now.You're a shitty troll and an even shittier person. | /r/MensRights | 15/11/12 04:55 AM |
| 2 | Touching your wife with your morning wood in bed? That's apparently rape now.No it isn't. Consent is consent. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marital_rape | /r/MensRights | 14/11/12 10:52 PM |
| -12 | Touching your wife with your morning wood in bed? That's apparently rape now.For the first half of your response, I interpreted it a certain way and responded that way. Based on the fact that it appeared in SRS, it's clear that I'm not the only one to do so. If you believe that I am among the misguided, that's fine, I'm not going to try to convince you otherwise. Does that make sense? No, it doesn't make sense. "By Definition"? What definition are you talking about? The definitions of consent and of sleep. Someone who is sleeping cannot give consent, by definition. I'm s… | /r/MensRights | 14/11/12 08:57 PM |
| -16 | Touching your wife with your morning wood in bed? That's apparently rape now.That's totally fine then, and it is of course incorrect to say that your specific circumstance is anything other than what you and your partner interpret it to be. However, the meme, the OP of the meme, the commenters in that thread, and the OP of this thread were not referring to "sibqm_Imvm and her partner's specific relationship," but a generalized situation that is, without the specific context of your personal experience, certainly reminiscent of spousal rape. That's why it ended up in SRS,… | /r/MensRights | 14/11/12 07:41 PM |
| -19 | Touching your wife with your morning wood in bed? That's apparently rape now.I interpreted the title of this thread to mean that the man is awake, aware, and actively touching his wife with his erection, or engaging in sex with his wife, while she's asleep. If you look at the original thread, you'll see that there are a variety of interpretations to the meme, one of which is the harmless joke that an overly manly man has erections at the same time every morning. I obviously don't believe that a man with an erection who rolls into or nudges his wife while they're both asl… | /r/MensRights | 14/11/12 07:12 PM |
| -32 | Touching your wife with your morning wood in bed? That's apparently rape now....um, of course it is. You need consent every time. Having had sex before, being in a relationship, or even being married doesn't mean that you have free reign to perform a sexual act whenever you feel like it. If your wife is awake, you make the move, and she goes along with it? Consent, you're all good. If she's awake and she says "honey, stop?" No consent, you stop and you're all good. If she's asleep and you go through with it? She can't consent, it's assault/rape. Plain and simple. | /r/MensRights | 14/11/12 06:56 PM |
| 2 | How about this: A gender neutral "Advice about rape" list.Wall of text. At the core of lists like this is the issue of consent. Everyone always freaks out when it comes to consent because it gets dicey when you try to define it, but there are ways to go about consent that are sexy and clear. The best way to think about it is this: The person who wants to engage in the sexual activity needs to obtain clear consent. Ideally, both people in a situation want to have sex and obtain consent from one another. In a situation where one person wants to engage an… | /r/MensRights | 14/11/12 06:39 PM |
| 1 | "Birth control should be for men."The OP, who clearly implied as much in his remarks to his friend. | /r/MensRights | 14/11/12 12:49 AM |
| 1 | "Birth control should be for men."The video is much more reasonable: in the video, he says that a left-wing feminist niche in Budapest didn't show interest in his work. The article author claims that every "slut-feminist" in the world is out to use the ability to get pregnant as a weapon to lord over men. That doesn't represent the global opinion on male birth control, or even the global feminist belief on male birth control. What the doctor said in the video is correct; there are medical hurdles when it comes to male contracept… | /r/MensRights | 13/11/12 03:21 PM |
| 2 | "Birth control should be for men."...yeah, an image file showing the OP posting a miserable article. Are you joking? | /r/MensRights | 12/11/12 09:44 PM |
| 9 | Curiosity: Sex in America on Discovery just proved (without saying it) that men can be raped (especially date raped)I think the OP's point was just that it is possible for people to have unwilling physiological responses. That's all. You're reading way too much into it. | /r/MensRights | 12/11/12 08:58 AM |
| -1 | A story of abuse, and advice that redditors give about itYou've got to be kidding me. The poster's parents are loudly fighting with some choice language. There's nothing in that post to suggest that the fights are frequent, reoccurring, and always involve belittlement and emasculation of the husband. There is nothing in that post to suggest that the husband is completely in the right. There is nothing to suggest that anyone in that household is in any danger. The majority of the post is legitimately about the OP's academic concerns. Y'all are really r… | /r/MensRights | 12/11/12 08:42 AM |
| 15 | Curiosity: Sex in America on Discovery just proved (without saying it) that men can be raped (especially date raped)The point is just that arousal isn't an indicator of consent. If a woman "gets wet," or has an orgasm during an attack, that doesn't mean that she enjoyed it, just as if a man has an erection, it doesn't mean that he's consenting to sex, and if he ejaculates it doesn't mean that he enjoyed it. The study above demonstrates that male arousal is something of an autonomous function, proving that it isn't directly correlated to a man's thoughts about a person or situation. They're completely differen… | /r/MensRights | 12/11/12 08:29 AM |
| 9 | As an experiment, I wanted to try to start a parallel discussion going.First off, applause to the OP for making this thread and trying to compare the sides. I'd like to bring in the r/feminism's top response: The short verson: Rape it non-consensual sexual intercourse. The Long Version: Consent may be given and taken away at any time. This means, yes, you can be in the middle of having sex and take away consent for sexual intercourse. If you tell your partner to stop and s/he does not, that counts as rape (in my book). Notice that the last line includes a bit about… | /r/MensRights | 12/11/12 02:42 AM |
| 10 | "Birth control should be for men."Then I merely lament the fact that such an established member of this community can't end a debate with a respectful "agree to disagree," but must instead resort to attacking me personally. But sure, let's agree to disagree, and we'll let the stats I've posted, opinions that you've posted, and the upvotes we've received speak for themselves. Oh, and by the way, thought you might like to know that my Karma has ceased being negative since you pointed it out 45 minutes ago. So someone out there mus… | /r/MensRights | 12/11/12 02:33 AM |
| 8 | "Birth control should be for men."So then why, as someone who is active and respected here, can't you do you and yours proud by logically defeating an argument with facts and intelligence, as is the way of r/MensRights? Why is that such a challenge for you, as someone who clearly knows what they're doing? | /r/MensRights | 12/11/12 02:19 AM |
| 8 | "Birth control should be for men."Dude, look at all the upvotes on the first comment that I made. Clearly, people think that this particular contribution was credible and useful. You apparently don't. Don't run away behind petty comments about what is clearly a throwaway account. The status of this account has zero relation to the statements I made earlier. People like you are a blight on communities like this, and are the reason that MRA's are never taken seriously - you're too focused on being right, so you clap your hands ove… | /r/MensRights | 12/11/12 02:09 AM |
| 7 | "Birth control should be for men."Address my points. Respond to my argument. Focus on the topic at hand. Am I wrong in what I am saying? Are the my responses to your posts incorrect? The procedure is not 32 years old. The modern procedure, the one to which the article and I were referring, is 3 years old, quite new by medical standards. Compared to the condom, the entire thing is brand spanking new. You decided to pick a fight with limited facts over the use of one word of rhetoric, and because you're now realizing this, you've … | /r/MensRights | 12/11/12 01:59 AM |
| 9 | "Birth control should be for men."We're using ad hominems now? Address my points. Defend your beliefs. You're the one who attacked me about my use of the phrase "new form," when it was clearly a figure of speech. The OP himself agrees that his post was inflammatory and ill-thought out. How about you try to open your mind and learn something? | /r/MensRights | 12/11/12 01:49 AM |
| 12 | "Birth control should be for men."Negative side-effects exist in most forms of female birth control too! that hasn't stopped them being commercially valuable. Negative side effects of female birth control don't include statistically significant kidney damage and scrotal swelling. In addition, the primary components of female birth control aren't toxic, radioactive, and known to cause birth and developmental defects. Early components of RISUG? They are. So do Female condoms, your point? No they don't. Female condoms are 20% less … | /r/MensRights | 12/11/12 01:38 AM |
| 13 | "Birth control should be for men."What reason? Here's several. 1) Animal trials =/= human clinical trials. 2) Most trials haven't been up to par with international scientific standards; just local standards, and sometimes not even then. 3) Negative side-effects have been found in all but the most recent human trials. 4) The toxcitity of the main substance was disputed until extremely recently. 6) It's not a medicine, it's a chemical implant. Much different research and evaluation process. 5) Males have had a contraception method… | /r/MensRights | 12/11/12 01:24 AM |
| 14 | "Birth control should be for men.""Envisioned" is different than "clinically tested and proven." There were tests and trials as early as 2002, but they resulted in complications and were thus abandoned. So yeah, it's a "new form" in that it actually works now. | /r/MensRights | 12/11/12 01:11 AM |
| -3 | Female victimizationNot at all - you're reading too much into what I'm saying. I am allowed to be afraid of all men. I have the right to feel that way, and that feeling can come from a variety of experiences and sources. You have the right to believe that I'm irrational, and that belief can be based on your variety of experiences and sources. I do not have the right to allow my fear of men to impact someone else, or use it as an excuse to do harm. For example, I should not discriminate against men, I should not att… | /r/MensRights | 12/11/12 01:01 AM |
| -4 | Male Privilege.Perhaps if women were legally allowed to join the military back then, there would have been some women in that photograph. Or perhaps if the draft included women in the 1900's. But it didn't, because the men in power didn't think to or want to include women in it. But yeah, sure, male privilege. | /r/MensRights | 12/11/12 12:46 AM |
| -12 | Female victimizationIf you're not terrified of all men, great! That's awesome and it will make your life much easier. However, your comfort with the opposite gender doesn't mean that you get to invalidate other's discomfort. Your subjective experiences and beliefs shouldn't be imposed as a standard on others. That girl feels the way that she feels, and because you're not her, you can't ever truly understand or critique that. Don't tell other people how they should feel about things; it's no one's place to judge. | /r/MensRights | 12/11/12 12:32 AM |
| 112 | "Birth control should be for men."I find it really mind-boggling that a group that bases its beliefs and arguments in statistics, research, and facts would allow something like this to appear here. The article that you're using as "evidence" of a female conspiracy is a .blogspot blurb that continually refers to women as "slut-feminists." In addition, it purports the success of a drug is a known toxin, may be related to kidney issues, and causes almost irreversible infertility in men. For those that did regain their fertility, it… | /r/MensRights | 12/11/12 12:21 AM |
| -12 | TED: Men = 2 talks. Women? 38 talks....but men ARE raised to be violent. | /r/MensRights | 21/10/12 11:09 PM |
| -9 | TED: Men = 2 talks. Women? 38 talks.So if I want to address one problem, I need to simultaneously address every single other related problem? These TED talks would last for years. Why is it that talking about women's issues is immediately believed to be an affront to men and their issues? If I'm talking about AIDS, it doesn't mean that I also need to talk about malaria, and if I don't talk about malaria, it doesn't mean that I'm claiming it doesn't exist or isn't important. | /r/MensRights | 21/10/12 11:08 PM |
| 4 | Was this guy really almost raped or is he a drama king? I was harassed and molested a bit by three other boys when I was 14 and I consider that to be a lot worse than the kind of molestation he is talking about from the girl that he describes.But what does it matter to you? Why is it so important that you quantify your experience against his? He endured something that he claims injured him. Given that we don't know him personally, we can just leave him be. If we knew him personally, we could offer support. But what is the point of questioning or minimizing his experiences? If he's not lying, we'll be causing him harm. If he IS lying, it's not like our internet comments are going to convince him to come clean. All that we'll be doing … | /r/MensRights | 21/10/12 11:04 PM |
| -5 | TED: Men = 2 talks. Women? 38 talks.Yeah, you never hear about child soldiers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4MnpzG5Sqc Or blood diamonds. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtPX2kXhu7I and all of that. http://news.discovery.com/tech/blood-cell-phones-fuel-war-crime-and-human-rights-abuses.html Yeah, that stuff has never entered our national dialogue. Sure. I already said before that life isn't easy for anyone in these countries. Talking about women isn't implicitly denying that men are important or exist. | /r/MensRights | 21/10/12 10:58 PM |
| -5 | TED: Men = 2 talks. Women? 38 talks.Wrong. Women reinvest 90 per cent into their families, not their communities (source: Yale News Daily). Men reinvest into the wider community. You're right about the first bit - the 90% stat is for families. However, men don't reinvest into communities as much as in their own indulgences, statistically speaking. That's disgusting and you should be ashamed of yourself for even suggesting it. I'm sorry? It's what happens. Girls are frequently married off as young as 12 years old. There was a UN br… | /r/MensRights | 21/10/12 10:49 PM |
| -7 | TED: Men = 2 talks. Women? 38 talks.Uh have you listened to it? It talks about how culture forces stereotypes and prejudice upon men, encouraging young boys to fulfill some greater image of "manhood." It's MRA 101. | /r/MensRights | 21/10/12 10:44 PM |
| -4 | TED: Men = 2 talks. Women? 38 talks....so the UN, UNICEF, WHO, PEPFAR, Doctors Without Borders, The World Bank, every other international development group you care to name... they're all evil, conspiratorial feminists? | /r/MensRights | 21/10/12 10:43 PM |
| 6 | Was this guy really almost raped or is he a drama king? I was harassed and molested a bit by three other boys when I was 14 and I consider that to be a lot worse than the kind of molestation he is talking about from the girl that he describes.It's not our place to decide whether or not a rape/assault was "legitimate" or "as bad as." Survivors of assault, both male and female, interpret and experience their assault in different ways based on a myriad of circumstances that are often specific to them. Originally, the FBI reported that rape is falsely reported at the same rate as other crimes - about 2%. Obviously, that statistic is full of holes, and more recent statistics put it somewhere around 8%. That one has problems too, but there… | /r/MensRights | 21/10/12 10:38 PM |
| -8 | TED: Men = 2 talks. Women? 38 talks.Don't put words in my mouth. It's an immature tactic. Everyone in those nations lives a life of poverty and hardship, faced with war, disease, and injustice. There are a few major differences, however, in that women have consistently been shown to be uniquely valuable to socioeconomic development. That doesn't mean that they are MORE valuable, just that they play a markedly different role in the development process, especially when it comes to education and busniess. If a girl gets an education,… | /r/MensRights | 21/10/12 10:22 PM |
| 1 | "Stranger danger" warning from cops because man tried to rescue little girl being attacked by an aggressive birdHe shouldn't have offered her a ride home, though. It's not utter insanity. He should have asked her where here parents were, who she was with, where she was going, etc. If the girl did not appear to have a guardian nearby, or to be close to home, the man should have called the police and explained the situation. People should not offer rides to children, and children should never accept rides from strangers. This has nothing to do with the fact that he was a man and she was a girl, it has to do… | /r/MensRights | 21/10/12 09:51 PM |
| 6 | TED: Men = 2 talks. Women? 38 talks.Many of those 38 talks are about the role of women in ending problems like poverty, HIV, and political unrest in nations around the world. Fine, debate all you want about whether or not women are disadvantaged in the US, but they are sure as hell disadvantaged in many third-world nations, and all research points to women having a critical role in a nation's development. Also, everyone here should watch this TED talk on men. http://www.ted.com/talks/tony_porter_a_call_to_men.html | /r/MensRights | 21/10/12 09:37 PM |
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