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Humans are moderately polygynous by nature. Each of us has roughly twice as many unique female ancestors as male ancestors, and having multiple wives is still a common practice in a few parts of the world. Nature does literally filter out a large percentage of males, and this has been exacerbated by reduced pressure to reproduce and efforts to expand opportunities for women so that they are not reliant on a mate. Many men were previously expendable and many more have been socially engineered to …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 01:41 AM
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male competition and female choice are much stronger aspects of human mating than the reverse, so men are naturally more concerned about being second choice. A woman who learns that she is the second choice has simply learned that some other woman rejected her man, but a man who learns that he is second choice learns that some other man could potentially have his woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 02:13 PM
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". . . many women do say they find larger-than-avarage sizes attractive in a vacuum." Never heard it called that before. "Steve, how was your date? Did you get the Hoover?"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 01:08 PM
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I noticed this too. When referring to the fetus, the women arguing against economic abortion used the word "baby", similar to a pro-life conservative. This is an isolated observation, but it wasn't surprising, given that all people have a tendency to select words that will give emotional weight to their argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 03:52 AM
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He should pay a homeless guy to wank into a jar and use that. The paternity case would be epic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 12:39 AM
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Exactly. Basing the amount on a percentage of the man's salary makes the kid a meal ticket for predatory women who will intentionally target a wealthy man.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 11:59 PM
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"Don't try to make a whore into a housewife." Sounds like something my southern grandmother would say.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 11:48 PM
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Yes, I care about a woman's ability to contribute to my team and further my purpose. I certainly notice aesthetics and desire sex, but I am conscious of the transitory pleasure that those offer and do not allow myself to be manipupated by them. I don't view my female partner as "beneath me", but I also don't see her as an equal. We are complimentary, each filling the deficiencies of the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 06:27 PM
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Good post, and I agree. I've had many satisfying relationships, but I have also found happiness in solitude. I think the pushback you are getting is because men have an innate drive to pair with women. Most of us remember when a switch flipped growing up, and breasts and butts suddenly became infatuating. It was only with considerable introspection that I could separate this installed evolutionary drive from my own goals for self-fulfillment. My sex drive is still intact, but it doesn't rule my …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 04:21 PM
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All's well that ends well.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 06:49 PM
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Good take. If love exists at all, it is closer to this description than the unconditional and eternal conception.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 04:42 AM
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Before the first date!? Did you guys meet at Woodstock?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 04:35 AM
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The responses are interesting. I expected women to have a different sexual focus from men, but I was surprised by how many seem to have a lack of sexual focus. Men generally require a degree of concentration to get things going and to control the pace of action, but it seems that sex for a woman can occur entirely on autopilot. I wonder how many women experience the primal raunchy arousal that is common with men. Any women here turned on by the shape of a ball sack? The smell of a jockstrap or t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 04:05 AM
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Agree, but context matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 04:01 AM
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I used to see a woman out on my runs who jogged along pushing one of those big double-wide strollers with two kids and a big chocolate labrador retriever in tow. I never saw the husband on the runs, but this is the sort of adaptation I imagined I would make if I ever had kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 03:54 AM
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I used to see a woman out on my runs who jogged along pushing one of those big double-wide strollers with two kids and a big chocolate labrador retriever in tow. I never saw the husband on the runs, but this is the sort of adaptation I imagined I would make if I ever had kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 03:51 AM
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Also true in socities that embrace honor culture, which tended to evolve when there was no access to an organized legal system--it was important for everyone to know that there would be dire consequences for steeling your cows and that you were not the sort of person to steel someone else's. Frontier justice depended on reputation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 03:00 AM
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Personally, I appreciate a kind rejection, just as with any other social declination. It communicates that she does not feel attraction while allowing me to save face. It's a kind way of allowing me to fail gracefully, and I feel gratitude towards a woman who does not take advantage of a vulnerable situation to inflict harm. It is essentially the female analog of chivalry.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 11:49 PM
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Well, at least she is making a small effort to take the sting out of the rejection. I think a woman deserves credit for doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 10:57 PM
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Ahh... that was a rhetorical comment meant to reveal the flawed reasoning when trying to justify nagging.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 01:55 AM
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I think we are done here. Take your nagging back to your relationship. Or better, make the decision to start communicating like an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 01:26 PM
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And you are a nag.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 01:14 PM
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Nagging is not asking. Nagging is a needng form of communication that relies on making the recipient uncomfortable. It's coercive and abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 01:04 PM
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I wouldn't phrase it as an ultimatum, but you've got the basic idea. One or both of you have to change, if not, then you move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 12:56 PM
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Third option. Communicate, without nagging, and if the issuesmare not resolved, then leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 12:52 PM
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What's so bad about a man beating his wife? I mean if she isn't behaving properly then corrective measures are justified, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 12:50 PM
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The reversal game doesn't work here. Expect the man to also behave as an adult. If he doesn't then it's your cue to take adult action not to also behave as a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 12:48 PM
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Women are always full of dating advice--"you need to set boundaries", "you need to communicate", ... They're like relationship ninjas, until, they get into a relationship, and they seem to forget everything. If you communicate and negotiate, like an adult, and then follow through on whatever decisions were made, then you won't find yourself in this predicament. Either the man's brain is going to tell him "bae said how it has to be and that b**ch means it" or you are going to pull the plug when h…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 04:21 AM
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Just can't let go of the nag.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 03:55 AM
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Not saying a woman should put up with bullshit. But if a man is getting nagged, then HE is putting up with bullshit. Have the conversation you need to have to come to a decision, but ladies, when that urge to nag comes upon you, put a sock in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 03:47 AM
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Guys who insist that women should stop nagging…..and then get mad when women give up nagging and just divorce. Give up nagging? Are women unable to negotiate an adult relationship without being a nag? If you are nagging, then YOU are already going down the wrong path. It's not a way to respectfully communicate and men quickly habituate to the nagging.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 03:28 AM
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Same. I'm straight, but body hair feels unclean.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 03:15 AM
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Armpit shaver here. I'm pretty hairless (Grandma said we have a bit of Cherokee), so it's only a matter of swiping off a handful of hairs every month or so, but it feels weird to have hair there. But I know I'm not typical--didn't realize how smooth I was until the group shower rooms in college. Got razzed about it quite a bit, but this must be the norm for some (Asians?).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 03:14 AM
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You've made a rational argument to counter an irrational craving. It's fighting addiction with logic. The puppet raging against the puppet-master. The solution is to cut the strings. Train your mind to see sexual desire for what it is--an urge installed by evolution. Diffuse this desire by dissecting it and imaging how you would feel afterwards. Why does a woman's shape make you feel lustful? Imagine her older, heavier, and without makeup. Is she still attractive? What regrets would feel after s…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 08:11 PM
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Such a list would be too easily corrupted causing havoc for those falsely labeled, which would also undermine the value of the list in the first place. However, I think you might mitigate cheating with a relationship registry. When entering into a relationship, both parties would jointly register with a publicly searchable service, sort of a psedo-marriage. Before entering into a relationship, one would want to check the service for a person's past history. There would still be ways around the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 11:23 PM
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I think this is a great form of therapy for boys and men. Developing their masculinity is an analgesic that will proactively mitigate all types of future trauma.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 08:11 PM
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Exactly. Boxing, jiu jitsu, or anything else that would have been a masculine refuge is now a safe and inclusive space for women. If women want to exclude men, everyone nods their head in approval, but male-only spaces are denounced as dens of misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 05:49 PM
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Well put. Therapy has become a mantra. There is more than one way to confront the challenges of life, and men and women often have significant differences in this respect. Women enjoy putting all their emotions on display. I don't, and I don't need to. Meditate, do some journaling, look within. I get more satisfaction, and better results, from working through issues on my own. Men feel empowered through self-reliance, and we need to stop forcing men to sit in a circle and confess.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 05:29 PM
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Any time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 03:22 AM
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I agree with him too and it has nothing to do with antipathy towards women. It would be better if all children were conceived by a happily married couple, but times have changed, and customs need to adapt. I support a woman's right to abortion because it's unjust to coerce gestation, similarly I support a man's right to opt out because it's unjust to use pregnanacy for exploitation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 03:07 AM
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The average person might care about wokeism and might be incited to outrage through targeted political adds, but I agree that it isn't the most important issue for most people. Democrats have been promoting candidates without any substance and are then outraged when people don't vote for them. Trump is a dangerous gamble, but I get why some people were willing to risk it, and it isn't all about a woke backlash.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 02:22 AM
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Liberated you from your biology you mean so that there was more choice in the roles you could select. You didn't win a battle over men. And a lot of men didn't enjoy having to provide for an ungrateful woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 04:51 PM
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Women have an awesome burden. One imposed by biology. It was only after the civilizational progress made by men that any other life was possible. Men are your liberators, but you resent them for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 04:18 PM
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You are setting up a false choice. You may as well just phrase the question as, "Would you rather be a slave or be free?". There is a spectrum of possibility for being a trad wife, and though trad wives may have tended to defer to their husbands authority, it was not at an absolute, and there are many counterexamples in literature. Modern feminism has promoted the narrative of the complete subjugation of women. Moreover, human females tend to be more submissive, so deferring to my husband would …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:42 PM
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That would be the priority, just like the husband would prioritize providing an income. However, you don't have to restrict yourself. I live the life I described, except that I don't have children, though I do perform a lot of manly roles, like home remodeling and car maintenance. It took 11 years of hard work to purchase my freedom. If I were a woman, I might have had the opportunity for someone to subsidize my lifestyle without the 11 years of work (and considerable amount of education). Howev…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 03:25 AM
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Trad wife 110%. I'll spend the majority of my days reading and investing. After an afternoon workout, I'll put together a tasty dinner and do a little housekeeping, and the house will be spotless. It's the least I can do for my poor schlep of a husband who has to scrap it out in the daily rat race and who does all the dirty jobs that I don't like to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 02:34 AM
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Nailed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 11:38 PM
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For the same reason that you are more likely to go to jail if you threaten someone with a knife than if you threaten them with a coconut cream pie.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 11:20 PM
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As others have pointed out, this statement (of opinion) isn't debatable. Maybe the OP could frame the topic better? When did the language around age-gap relationships change? Is there evidence that concerns are overblown? Etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 11:08 PM
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It makes me mad when people irritate the chickens.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 07:34 PM
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You are not the first to observe the importance of food to dating: There are three possible parts to a date, of which at least two must be offered: entertainment, food, and affection. It is customary to begin a series of dates with a great deal of entertainment, a moderate amount of food, and the merest suggestion of affection. As the amount of affection increases, the entertainment can be reduced proportionately. When the affection is the entertainment, we no longer call it dating. Under no cir…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 06:39 AM
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You don't unknowingly give birth. Actually, it's conceivable (no pun intended) that a woman could now unknowingly be cuckolded similar to a man. Imagine going through IVF to have a child with your husband, but years later you discover that you were implanted with a fertilied egg from his lover (e.g. the fertility doctor was his golf buddy). Though you may still feel attached to the child, you will have to contend with the child's reaction to discovering that you are not the biological mother. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 05:07 AM
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That's sad. Even if I were cuckolded by a woman, I think it would be heartless to completely disavow the love for the child. Situations like yours seem another reason for making paternity testing the norm--it would prevent the hurtful severance of relationships when people discover they were deceived, and it would allow greater opportunity at developing a relationship with the biological father.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 02:00 AM
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As someone who spent some time in the lab, I think your comparison more closely fits a social scientist or maybe a scientologist rather than a STEM scientist, though there are exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 09:44 PM
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Exactly. It's economics. Right now, the price of "goods" these men want has been inflated and they whine about it being unfair. But if there is a shift in the dating market causing the mate-value of women to decline, will they not also take advantage of the situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 02:56 AM
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Excellent summary. This also agrees with what I know from studying biology. OP asked about what is "natural", which I interpret as the "default" setting for most people given our evolutionary background. This is different from the moral standards for which we strive. Some of the posts are not making a distinction between "is" and "ought". edit: spelling
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 12:12 AM
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he absolutely will not be able to spend as much time with his kids as their mothers were. If you believe this is biologically imperative and natural, then you must also believe that biology believes that the father’s role is less important Ah, got it. You are comparing apples and oranges--the father's contribution may be less time intensive. However, I agree with your conclusion (for other reasons) that a mother's contribution to her children is generally far more important than the father's.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 11:15 PM
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How is it natural to be married when marriage doesn’t occur in nature? I assume OP meant something like pair-bond. If marriage cannot be considered "natural", then the post does not make sense. It would make sense, seeing as we’re the same species and mate with each other, both genders are either monogamous or not. Naturally, or according to DNA analyses, humans are moderately polygynous--we have about twice as many female ancestors as male ancestors.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 11:01 PM
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I'm not exactly sure what you mean by that, but many men simply never master their libido. It's also not hard to find examples of men who are not monagamous but still love their kids and believe strongly in family, though that lifestlye is generally incompatible with modern western values.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 10:39 PM
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It's natural for a man to be promiscuous AND married. Monogamy is the hard part for most.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 10:25 PM
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Orbitals can be further subdivided. The dorky guy-friend, continuously in close proximity to his planetary crush, is the best known, probably because they are a useful trope in romantic comedies. But many women will be familiar with a man who "checks in" on an infrequent basis. These long-period orbitals behave more like a comet, making predictable appeances on a cycle measured in years. Then there are the stationary orbitals, who, like the JWST, park themselves at a Lagrange point because this …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:29 PM
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I had a stray dog for 15 years that I loved like a daughter. She was cute and gentle, so I at first expected to enjoy a side-benefit of increased attention from women. However, it was not a huge effect and was offset by all the time I needed to spend at home with my dog. Being kind to animals is its own reward. Don't expect more pu--y because you take care of pussies.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 01:25 PM
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I'd like to go full Agent Smith and populate the planet with copies of me. But until I am able to coerce every woman into birthing and raising my clones, I'd rather not have any progeny. It's all or nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 03:31 AM
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Congratulations. Looking back on life, I would like to have done the same thing. It's no guarantee of success, but admire the way you both are taking your time to lay the groundwork. Good luck to you!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 04:44 AM
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Can't believe people are doubting you on this. A considerable number of marriages are still not based on romance. An Indian friend and biochemist is in an arranged marriage. He's been with his wife many years and seems to love her dearly, but the love grew out of the marriage, not the othe way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 03:09 AM
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That's beautiful . . . sniff sniff.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 02:22 AM
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Sexual attraction is an emotion, so obviously it's okay. What isn't okay is a man who is unable to control his emotions. The recent fad to encourage men to be more emotional is toxic to men. Traditionally, men were told to suppress emotions because of the consequences of not developing emotional control--violent rage and uncontrollable lust. The prisons are packed with men that have poor emotional control. It should give women the ick if a man cannot control himself. We don't have school shooter…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 01:52 AM
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When a long-term partner dies, a part of you dies. I mean this more than just metaphorically. During the relationship each person specializes in complimentary roles so that they begin to function more like a single entity. This also applies to other relationships: my dog took on the role of maintaining a daily routine--when to get out of bed, when to go for a walk, etc. So, losing a partner in a relationship is very much like losing a part of yourself, and we experience it as an emptiness create…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 11:34 PM
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Good luck with that. After you try it, consider learning to meditate.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 02:22 AM
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It's more realistic to change yourself than the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 01:38 AM
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Eleven years is a long journey, but many never make the trip. Congratulations on your arrival and your relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 01:36 AM
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How did you get through the dark phase and come to a new understanding? Meditation?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 01:18 AM
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You can package the fundamental truths of life however you want, but you still have to confront them. I commiserate with your pain, but the bottom line is that the world doesn't owe you an explanation, or happiness, or a partner, or a pussy. You can learn to generate your own contentment, independent of the rest of the world. Until you learn this, your happiness is in the control of others who do not care about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 01:09 AM
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lol. All the hippies here are 1st gen, straight from the 60s. They put on a good show dancing at the local cafe, but you wouldn't want to see them naked.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 09:53 PM
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I live in a coop with hippies of a different sort. Wish they were more like Crested Butte (awesome name) hippies.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 09:46 PM
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I look at them as addicts, and as addicts, they live empty lives susceptible to manipulation and undependable because what they crave above all else is the next "fix".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 09:32 PM
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I think so too. Paradoxically, I think men who spend time establishing a life purpose, independent of having a partner, will have an easier time finding a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 04:47 AM
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I was thinking of the maniacal pursuit of sex that so many men are preoccupied with. Getting beyond the sexual and putting thought into the sort of person that would make a good partner would be a huge improvement, but I agree that they need to define themselves and establish a purpose independent of validation from another person.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 04:31 AM
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Pussy makes a poor omega.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 06:07 PM
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I think looking beyond "chasing pussy" is something that many men need to contemplate and would have been a better topic for your post. I'm glad that therapy has helped you to realize this, but your post reads a little like an infomercial. Therapy is one solution; meditation also works; and some men will have been lucky in having a good father as a mentor.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 05:42 PM
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The actual things that no one will admit: "I just had my place in Malibu redecorated." "I don't want to know about a woman's past." "When two people love each other, a prenuptial agreement is unnecessary."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 03:30 AM
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Pro tip, recycle the pet name (e.g. "Sweetie") you used in the previous relationship. Less mental energy and no opportunity for mistake. Everybody wins.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 02:34 PM
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That's all a lot of claptrap to try and chacterize weakness as strength. It seems to make women feel good if they can bring men down to their level. Emotional vulnerability is a weakness because vulnerabity is a weakness. By your logic a man could demonstrate his "strength" by screaming when he sees a spider and crying when he stubs his toe. Manliness is a responsibility. While I appreciate my SO's understanding when I falter, purposefully undermining my role is equivalent to unmaking me as a ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 06:22 AM
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I wish there were a tree that can cook and fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 02:01 AM
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With respect to everyone, including gays. I gave one example to show that your conception cannot be correct. You've provided no examples for why mine is not correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 11:48 PM
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I explained, and gave an example, of how you are wrong about the usage with respect to women and with respect to gays. Get a clue.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:25 AM
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Nope. It applies to the gay community too, which further proves my point. I had gay friend whose partner (a bottom) cheated on him. He confronted him with "Did you fuck someone else?!", because he suspected his friend of purposefully cheating. If his partner had been raped, the question would have been "Did he fuck you?!". The person penetrated is more often seen as the submissive role that is acted upon, but it is not difficult to find counterexamples. The word usage is much more in agreement w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:06 AM
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When I was younger, I never tried to initiate sex with women that I was not attracted to, but I did have sex with two friends that I didn't really want to. I imagine that it is not uncommon for a man to just "go along" with sex, particularly with someone they like but do not find particularly attractive out a combination of not wanting to reject the woman and as a general attitude of not wanting to reject a "freebie".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 01:45 AM
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That's not quite accurate. Men are often in the "fucker" role because they are most often the ones who are made to wait or jump through hoops to get sex. It would not make sense if they were the ones willingly putting in effort only to get "fucked". However, when women take the initiative to seek sex, they are portrayed as the one who did the fucking--imagine a devious woman bragging about how she "fucked her friend's boyfriend". Both sexes can "fuck" or be "fucked", but biology makes it more li…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 01:34 AM
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I agree. When the state is involved in marriage, everyone is being given a say in your personal life, and they should have a say if marriage confers a tax-funded benefit. I personally don't care who you marry, or how many, or how often, so long as I am not subsidizing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 07:00 PM
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Same. Sex was the goal while young, but through sex I came to realize connection. While sex is still delicious, connection is the sustenance.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 12:51 AM
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That's a good observation. I briefly tried online dating and was also struck by the bimodality of the women: the ultra hot who crave valdation, and the ultra desperate who want to find a rescuer.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 02:50 AM
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There are several possibilities, some of which have been listed. However, the thing that leaps out is that he is 24 and has never had female contact. Pursuing women is stressful enough for men, but when you have put it off for that long, the barrier to "entry" becomes insurmountable. If a thirsty woman were to provide the requisite coital activation energy, I believe it might awaken the sleeper Chad dwelling within Jake.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 11:56 PM
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poor use of Schrodinger
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 11:41 PM
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You mean this Chad is both dead and alive? Maybe that's his problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 11:13 PM
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Everyone tells me I'm a fool, but I know Naomie Harris will see how perfect we are for one another eventually. Just gotta give it time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 12:40 AM
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Yeah, I meant it as a joke, but I also have childhood memories of interactions that I wish I could take back.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 12:34 AM
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A woman has never rejected me in a cruel way, but I don't believe in a cold. Since I know the person, that outcome is unlikely since I am not attracted to cruel women. Confronting reality is the source of most of the pain. We all have a self-image that we cultivate. It can be in academics, sports, or attractiveness, but when we test our ability in the real world, our (inflated) self-image is hit by reality, which causes a painful self-assessment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 04:08 PM
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Gee thanks, now there's a supervillain out there who reads that love letter every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 03:50 PM
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I don't like the current state of feminism either, but I also want to keep an open mind, and not all dates evolve into relationships. If the woman makes a point of revealing her feminism, then reciprocate by explaining your opposition. Not in an advesarial way but as a point of disclosure so that you both can make an informed decisions. One or both of you will probably learn something.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 03:04 AM
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OP thinks we are not supposed to use the word gynocentrism?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 02:07 AM
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It worked for a woman who survived the Batavia shipwreck in 1628. During the ensuing murderous power struggle, she played off the alphas until rescuers could arrive. It seems that an attractive woman was better situated to survive that ordeal then any other person.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 01:56 AM
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I can't stop thinking about what the "G word" might be. Could you give us a hint? Maybe do it like they do on The Wheel of Fortune.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 01:38 AM
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I'll match whatever offer u/KayRay1994 makes to your father and add 100 bags of fertilizer, a red dress, and a TV with a remote control.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 04:31 AM
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That's an important distinction. If you are an anthropologist, then studying women firsthand should give more reliable information. But if the goal is to attract women, then imitating the techniques of a successful man (or lesbian) seems like a better strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 03:49 AM
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I haven't followed him as closely after his addiction and coma, but he seemed like a broken man for some time after that incident.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 09:35 PM
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Very true. I found little fault in his lessons for young people, and young men really needed a figure like him. I also refuse to be coerced into using new pronouns. All people deserve respect, and that includes me. Forcing me to use someone's personal title or pronoun is a flex that doesn't sit well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 09:27 PM
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I agree. Old frumpy college professor Peterson had some very interesting lessons, and I admired his courage to speak his mind. He also had a folksy Canadian charm and made a pretty good surrogate internet father figure. However, the new batman villian (I'm referring to his outlandish suits) Peterson has strayed a bit and doesn't seem as genine.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 09:09 PM
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Door number two, but it would not be a pity fuck. Rather, it would be her succumbing to my testosterone-infused alpha male giga chad masculinity. She would resent the unresistable physical attraction because a relationship with me would cause her to abandon the facade of being a strong independent woman. For my part, I would so rock her world that the memory of our encounter would spontaneously replay in her mind at inconvenient moments, and I would deny any requests for more sex. I've followed …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 07:06 PM
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I voted up imagining your loud cafe snort while reading that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 05:42 AM
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As much as I hate him, I believe Trump, like Tate benefits and grifts from this tendency in the left (which I count myself a part of) to deny reality or ignore problems because of “optics” Yes, this and their unrelenting purity tests--a person who is only in 90% agreement is worse than a right-winger (I'm socially liberal with a few conservative values that I was raised with and live in a very progressive community). Basically they loudly champion women, every minority group and sexuality while …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 05:26 AM
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I agree with this too. It's why people like Andrew Tate have such a large following. Tate has serious flaws, but he speaks truths that no one is supposed to say and young men want to hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 03:53 AM
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This is a good trick and also works if you are intimidated by someone's attractiveness. Just imagine them in a less than ideal circumstance--on the throne, when they are older and fatter, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 12:23 AM
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I've gotten so many benefits from mediation and reflection that I think it should be taught to all young men. I'm sure women benefit too, but they use social networks to resolve issues in a way that men do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 12:18 AM
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My perception of beauty has broadened considerably over my lifetime. Younger me was only attracted to short petite girls with long straight hair. Older me sees a much greater variety of beauty both sexual and asexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 03:52 AM
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Some years back there was a game that illustrated mate selection. Each player held a playing card to their forehead so that they everyone, except themselves, could see the value of their card. Players then paired with a mate having the highest card value they could manage. Through the process of interaction and rejection, each person came to indirectly know the approximate value of their card, which of course symbolized their sexual market value. I doubt this game would be allowed now. Perhaps s…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 03:37 AM
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They didn't. For most of history men and women were in a joint struggle for a precarious survival. We know that because the population did not begin rapidly expanding until the last few hundred years. Life was short, and women needed to produce a lot of children to make up for those that would be lost to disease, famine, and war. Women were no more oppressed to make babies, then men were oppressed to go fight the rival tribe. Each did what they had to do, or we would not be here now. Civilizatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 10:54 PM
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Men and women are socialized differently because they are different. Culture reflects and modulates biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 09:23 PM
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I always roll my eyes when I hear these sexist jokes, and it's even worse when a woman tells one, as if a woman could be funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 06:01 PM
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Women hypergamy, resources/status, increasing reproductive success. Their love therefore, opportunistic. Men hypogamy, controllable woman, increasing reproductive success. Their love therefore, opportunistic. I think it's true that everyone, for every endeavor, makes use of opportunity, but men and women are presented with different opportunity landscapes. For men to be dominant, they simply need to find a woman who can be dominated, but a woman needs to find a man who has acquired status (she m…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 04:48 PM
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You are right. And it's not like men can help it. Their libido just won't leave them alone. You can be having an innocent friendly conversation and suddenly your libido interrupts with "I wonder what it would be like to motorboat Debbie."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 04:52 AM
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Happens to me all the time. Couldn't resist a joke. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 04:28 AM
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There you go bringing baby Jesus into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 04:06 AM
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In middle school, there was a tomboy who liked me. We were in band together, but she was as athletic as most of the boys, while I was awkward and clumsy. One day she wore a dress (for me), and the other kids teased her for suddenly looking like a girl. Worst of all, I avoided her, because I didn't know how to react, and later saw her crying in class. It's been many years, but I still occasionally think about how I was a "bitch ass boy" that day and hope that my stupidity did not cause her lastin…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 04:59 AM
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Seeing that across the dinner table every night would be a little rough.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 04:13 AM
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Same experience here. I've had drunk women grope me and woke up one morning to a woman giving me a blowjob--very weird since we were just on a group vacation together, had not been drinking or partying, were not even flirting, and there were other people still in the room asleep). By today's standards, those could be called assault, but that's baloney. Going along with the situation makes you complicit. There's a different standard for men, and there should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 03:15 AM
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So true. A woman attacking me, told me I could call the cops because she knew they wouldn't do anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 03:02 AM
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I had a hot tempered girlfriend when I was young, and she went psycho a few times after we had broken up. One night she came to the military barracks where I slept and attacked me (fingernails, biting, and punching). She was small, but fought like a Tasmanian devil. I got scratched up a bit waiting for my friend to get the MPs. Some time later, when I was living off base, she broke the front window of my apartment, crawled in, and got in bed with me. I had parked down the street so she would not…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 02:55 AM
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I think you have your finger on an interim solution. Paint a face on a roomba that goes only forwards and backwards. It might be good enough to satisfy OP until something better is invented.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 04:42 AM
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The difference is many men speak derisively of women who do porn. Whilst watching porn. It's not a difference, it's a subset. Each one of those things (i.e. watches porn, derides porn stars, and finding porn unacceptable for their gf) divides the pie--one doesn't necessarily imply the other. You can find men who are any combination of these things, and I think it is very common to think that something is acceptable for someone else but not for someone close.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:47 AM
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I think he correctly sees a loophole in your reasoning. A woman may prefer that her husband or son not be a sanitation worker without necessarily being anti-sanitation worker.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:46 AM
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So true--just intelligent enough to write things down so that others don't have to start at the beginning.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:53 PM
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It's a cyclical phenomenon called the Woodstock event. Every few generations, all the young people meet, get high, and go at it. It's very hard to predict, but you don't want to miss it if you are lucky enough to live during its occurrence. Makes Burning Man look like a gospel concert.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:38 PM
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Read the comment I was responding to. I listed some notable difference that occur between the ages of 35 and 60.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 06:44 AM
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I'm watching the latest PBS Spacetime video on why singularities do not exist, and it's easier to understand than this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 06:27 AM
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Congratulations, but are you really in that much denial? I'm not too far behind you, and I see it all the time--me and the other old guys in the sparring club still keeping up, sort of, except that we've lost some of our explosive power, get injured much easier, and take longer to heal. I have no doubt I could still manage being a dad, but my 35-year-old self would find it far less physically demanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 05:51 AM
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AI/android could be a good thing These are two very different things. Most of the discussion around androids has been on sex robots used as unrestricted sex toys for men. However, the recent LLM AIs may be sophisticated enough to assist someone in practicing social skills, such as respecting boundaries. Instead of fueling our darker impulses, this could be a tool for exercising our nobler ones. There seems to be much less discussion about this potentiality. Friendless adults are at an all-time h…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 12:53 AM
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If the AI enforces boundaries, then it might be a useful tool for teaching someone to respect boundaries. ChatGPT has boundaries built in and will chastise someone it detects as trying to get around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 12:44 AM
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If you replace "sex" with "heaven" the argument becomes similar to why a person needs to be rewarded or punished when goodness is its' own reward. If you imagine an all-knowing woman with infinite vagina, then you have everything needed to start a religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 08:26 PM
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And I completely agree with that argument. A woman has a tricky path to navigate. However, I think feminism has unfairly claimed itself to be the solution. It's also a traditional value that a man prioritize his family, which is why family law was created to protect them. Moreover, in many communities women traditionally managed the finances. In mining towns the men would often hand over their wages to their wife, which makes sense when you nsider they were in a hole all day and she is the one w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 07:41 PM
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You nailed it. And choosing a mate based on status is a more reasonable and fair criterion than choosing one based on breast size since staus often indicates an earned improvement while breast size indicates only a genetic trait for large glands. Women should own this choice. It's a defensible position, but it clashes with modern feminism, so there is widespread denial of something that everyone knows to be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 07:15 PM
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Mentioned that story one day at lunch with a group of international co-workers, and every one of them had fathers who played food pranks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 07:18 AM
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My bad, I didn't see the tag, but if this is actually a thing, then I'm even more worried about the decline of manliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 06:21 AM
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Well you told them what not to do, but didn't give any advice on how to actually get the pussy wet. That's not very nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 05:34 AM
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Thank you for this information. Starting tomorrow I'm going to be the biggest asshole this town has ever seen. It's time to get those juices flowing, and I'll need to start carrying a mop.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 05:12 AM
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Food trauma and an occosional knock was all I got from my old man, no kissing, but he worked hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 05:06 AM
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This is part of nature. It is the mother's job to teach her children kindness and sharing, while the father's role is to remind the child that there are people in the world who will try to eat your food.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:31 AM
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He's the adult male who would ask for a little sip of your drink when you were a kid and then chug it all down while you screamed "Noooooh!".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:04 AM
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Yeah, the first couple generations of plucky migrants are like super-beings hustling to get a piece of the pie. By about the third generation, they become as lazy as everyone else. But even lazy workers are better for an economy than a declining population.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 12:11 AM
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I had a friend from India in an arranged (by their parents) marriage. They didn't have to accept the choice made for them, but having objective others who care about your happiness seems a wise thing. It's beneficial in multiple ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 05:54 PM
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So you're saying that I should treat them like brain-eating humans that I want to protect and spend my life with?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:43 PM
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Thanks. That's honestly reassuring. I read that men are are driven by sexual desire, but during sex they discover sensuality. That resonated with me. The nevous anxiety felt as a teenager morphed into a delicous slow-burn anticipation with a long time spent in the pre-game phase. Whips and choking might work for some, but oil and massaging is much more to my liking. Once, just as the ride got started, a woman, just out of the blue, asked me to talk dirty to her. I don't use an abundance of vulga…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 05:06 AM
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You guessed it. She was a petite Asian, and I'm 6' 1", 190 lbs and "well equipped", so there may have been genuine mechanical advantages. In fact, all of my sexual experience has been with tiny women--all thin and only one over about 5' 5". Body type could certainly be a factor. Maybe I need to do more research? As for oral sex, I've been somewhat of a germaphobe. Taking microbiology classes and working in a hospital can dampen aspects of your sex life. And while I would say that I am a vigorous…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 03:50 AM
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She was definitely an outlier and also the one I am most sure about since we were married for nearly 3 years. We were both athletic, but she was a marathon runner and the running seemed to fuel her libido. I suspect there may be a selection bias. Nearly all of my partners were in the prime of their life and in very good physical condition. It's seems reasonable that there would be more difficulty is less ideal circumstances. I'll give myself some credit too for always wanting to pleasure my part…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 02:39 AM
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No doubt, but only a few of these were one-off events, so I was able to learn what worked for each of them. I did notice quite a bit of variability. One woman masturbated while I cradled her and gave support (nothing else worked), while at the other end of the spectrum was a woman who essentially had no limit on the number of orgasms she could have during regular sex (quit after around 30 when the bed was soaked with sweat).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 02:09 AM
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I've had a similar opinion. Out of 20 women, just one required unusually focused attention. Either the oft-quoted fact is wrong, or I have extraordinary technique. Kinda sad to learn that the fact about penetration is probably exagerated.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 01:42 AM
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"Pussy attack! Storm the gates of the citadel clitadel!"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 01:35 AM
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I agree. Back in the day, brash insecure men were often described as suffering from "small man syndrome"--attempting to use brashness as a substitute for capability. Women are following a similar pattern. While brash men are eventually corrected by being called out (an ass-whoopin' provides useful feedback for self-adjustment), society generally frowns upon seeing a woman brought down a notch. Many live in a Disney-induced bubble. On the other hand, men have also become feminized. How many young…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 06:50 PM
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Just being real. Being conventionally pretty (whatever the convention happens to be) is an advantage, but women can still be attractive for other reasons. Despite what redpill says, not all men are maniacally focused on maximizing "hotness".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 01:09 AM
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It's very rare that a rape actually about sex. I've seen the "rape isn't about sex, it's about power" slogans posted around universities. I don't want to get into a lengthy debate on this, but I don't believe it. It seems like the sort of thing intended to reassure young women. My own inclination is that the spectrum of sexual psychology includes some very dark aspects that can be awakened in some people. The real truth is that sex sometimes has little to do with affection. And it's 2024, there …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 07:46 AM
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My point is that the most common scenario is a situation resulting from heightened emotion that could be diffused; however, if you're dealing with an actual psycho, who lacks empathy, then fighting your attacker may be the least bad option.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 06:56 AM
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One man's Becky is another man's Stacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 06:24 AM
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Not denying that sadists exist, and I don't know much about rape psychology, but most assaults on women occur from someone the woman knows, and often following an escalation of some sort. Women don't often get pulled into the chest-thumping monkey-dance men do with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 06:16 AM
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Yeah, I think even bad men feel the natural resistance that men have against harming women or children, and those that do will inflict much greater harm if their dominance is challenged.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 05:49 AM
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Fuck an apple pie? wth!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 06:49 AM
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That's right! If it hadn't been for Eve I wouldn't have to be escorted in the selfie booth.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 06:40 AM
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My sex took off after my iPhone upgrade. Now I know why it's called the "Pro Max".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 02:22 AM
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All of the benefits of marriage but without the "forever" part. You can't argue that there would be no benefit over a non-contractual relationship without also arguing that traditional marriage has no benefit over a non-contractual relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 07:10 PM
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You didn't understand my response. The answer is no. There is no such thing as a US divorce. Divorce here is governed by state law, and the laws vary significantly across the fifty states. Moreover, those laws include concepts that are ambiguous or not uniformly applied.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 07:09 PM
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Varies by state. And it can be very messy and expensive. Wealthy people often get a prenuptial contract which carries a bit of stigma and can still be expensive to enforce in court.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 04:12 PM
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I see it as having many of the marital benefits while eliminating some of its' shortcomings.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 04:10 PM
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Haven't thought it all through, but some way to dial the level of commitment up or down.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 04:06 PM
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What's the point in that? Choice is good, and shorter more realistic agreements are both easier to complete and keep both parties on their toes to renew for another term.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 07:05 AM
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Not on this side of the pond.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 07:02 AM
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Lucky you. You must beating them off if you can afford to be that selective.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 06:08 AM
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Totally agree. Sounds like your family raised you right. While I don't mean to deflect responsibilty for having made a reckless choice, marriage has few safeguards given its importance. A friend, who is Indian, is in an arranged marriage that involved a lot of input from both families. Part of me feels like that an outdated method, while another part of me sees the wisdom in involving more stakeholders in the decision. They've also raise two children and seem very happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 06:05 AM
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I agree. I think much of the female condition is opaque to men, but men have to understand enough to attract the woman. The relationship doesn't happen if the guy doesn't figure it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 05:49 AM
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"Chet" is the problem? Really? Guys, how many of you would turn down an attactive "Mildred" or "Helga"? If it works out, you're gonna invent a pet name for the person anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 05:45 AM
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Yeah, we both escaped relatively unscathed, but a little conversation could have saved a couple years of frustration. I feel sorry for those who get impossibly entangled with children without really having considered what they were getting into.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 05:34 AM
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I did it too. I still shake my head at the younger me for being such an idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 05:25 AM
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I've often thought that the state should not be in the business of sanctioning a particular lifestyle. The only argument for its involvement is to encourage people to have children since everyone in a nation benefits from a stable or growing population. Otherwise, they should be neutral to lifestyle arrangements.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 05:16 AM
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Possibly, but I think being explicit about all those thing might be a good preventative measure. A standard marriage contract should state likely contingencies so that everone is on the same page. Many couples neglect discussing big issues before they make a forever commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 05:09 AM
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Or military enlistment. Why not? Every other option in life has a variety of options along with protections when things go off the rails, but the biggest choice you can possibly make is still essentially a leap of faith with a high rate of failure. No wonder men avoid it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 05:02 AM
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That works too, but some people want a spouse-like SO while maintaining autonomy and not commitng to an arrangement that they believe will not last a lifetime. If the modern view of marriage is a partnership between equals then update the definition, or add a new category, to reflect that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 04:43 AM
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It might be nice to have more options on the table. Flexibility and choice have crept into all other aspects of life, why not a one-year term with an option to renew? Men (and women) know that forever has become so dilute as to be nearly meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 04:33 AM
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Accepted norms of dress are useful for a society, and they should apply to both men and women. However, similar to the way that men project dominance and cause disruption with physical violence, women do so by putting themselves on display. And just as male violence generally has greater destructive potential, display of the female body generates greater societal disruption. The difference is that there is much more agreement where to draw the line for male viloence and especially dress since dr…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 04:05 AM
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I heard someone say recently that "men have a sex drive while women have a sex mood". In other words, men go looking for the act, but women require a man to put her in the mood, and no matter how good a fish the man happens to be, nothing is gonna happen if he can't orchestrate the mood.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 01:35 AM
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Finding women in a religious community? No, but a cult, well . . . that's where the "action" is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 12:43 AM
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It's more like collateral when things don't go right Interesting. I've always seen the bride price interpreted here in the US as "buying" a woman, but I should have known that it is more nuanced. At the very least, giving money to a trusted family member to hold as a backup contingency is more practical than wasting it on an expensive ring.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 12:38 AM
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This is a very clever way to understand the female condition. Next, I think you should plug up your anus for three weeks then allow the build up to slowly ooze out on the fourth week so that you will know what it is like to have a menstrual cycle.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 08:00 PM
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Realize too that your peception of time is relative, so that even if a married man does not live longer, from his perspective it will feel like an eternity.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 10:48 PM
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It would be interesting to see if there is a significant difference in the responses if the students are enrolled in the humanities, business, or science and engineering.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 09:24 PM
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Did the respondents answer with anonymity? I think some of these questions would have a strong social desirability bias, particularly on a college campus. What was the ratio of males to females? How many were something other than hetero cis M/F?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 09:09 PM
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No, she has a "Master degree", not a master's degree. A Master degree is much more ominous.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 08:23 PM
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Gotta do something with that prestigious master's degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 08:17 PM
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I hear your rail and add to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 08:03 PM
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By corrupted, I mean that she is raised with modern feminist values that are incompatible with marriage. Her family is not "bad" and may have tried hard to prepare her for success, but that success does not prioritize marriage and family. From the red pill perspective, nearly all women enter the dating market have been indoctrinated in a way that makes them unsuitable as a wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:04 PM
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All women begin innocent, and at some point they lose it. I'm questioning this premise. Obviously, an inexperienced person might be seen as innocent, but in the domain of dating, innocent implies a woman who is pure of heart as well as body. I think many red pillers believe that society corrupts a woman's psychology very early in life. And while I believe there is truth in that, men are being corrupted as well. It seems that marriage needs to be revised or replaced if this is the society that we…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 05:18 AM
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I like your red pill pushback and agree with some of it. But if red pillers mistakenly see women as malevolent, then are you not making a similar mistake by characterizing them as innocent? I believe that pedestalizing a woman has been an important part of the marriage narrative and is why purity is such an important part since sex with another man breaks the pedestal fantasy. It may be that marriage is simply not compatible with modern Western norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 04:31 AM
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In some cases we do know, and in some of those instances intervention is possible. We may never fully understand our genome.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 02:58 PM
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Did I not make it clear that genome sequencing will be not only affordable but likely to add significant health benefits? As for not wanting to know, that's a personal choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 02:15 PM
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I was a bioinformaticist, and there was a lot of optimism when the human genome was first being sequenced. I worked on a project to compress the genome into a rice-grain-sized capsule that a person would have on them at all times. Unfortunately, the genetics proved more complicated than had been assumed (large gene networks are the norm), but the price of sequencing has continued to fall and the hope for medical benefits through genetic insights hasn't died, it's just been a slow slog.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 07:37 AM
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I don't think it was all planned, but the adversaries of Western nations are no doubt celebrating and encouraging it if they are able. Men are still the builders and defenders of nations, so when men become weak, it's much easier for strong men with guns to invade.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 07:28 AM
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Do you realize that you sound like an addict? Not judging. I think most of us men are programmed to be addicted to sex, but you can realize your situation and master it instead of leaning into it. Would be cheaper than the robot and maybe more meaningful. Just sayin'.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 07:21 AM
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Personalized medicine, i.e. tailoring your medical needs (and perhaps your lifestyle) to your specific genetic needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 07:10 AM
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The databases for DNA ancestry services are already large enough that people regularly discover siblings they did not know about. Even if a person has not contributed DNA, a relationship can sometimes be inferred from the contributions made by close family members. I think we are not too far off from routinely sequencing people at birth (or maybe during pregnancy) simply for medical reasons, but it could also be used to confirm paternity.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 06:45 AM
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Are you busy Friday night? Do you like Ethiopian food?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:50 AM
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Thank you Dr. Phil. Maybe give your back-porch wisdom on relationships to your 12-year-old nephew?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 05:58 AM
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I'll just cut to the chase Yes, let's do that and get straight to the point because I actually have no interest in video games or sex robots. What concerns me are are self-righteous prigs who want to arbitrarily exercise control over others. It's far better for creeps to fuck robots than for all of us to be fucked by those petty condescending morons.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 04:03 AM
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Exactly. I often find another person's sexuality to be icky, but that is not justification for criminalizing it. We've already tried that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 03:42 PM
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A little like the way millions of people buy expensive gaming consoles so they can be immersed in a realistic environment that allows them to commit mass murder?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 03:35 PM
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Sounds like a healthy and wholesome relationship. Some folks here need to know that these exist. Also, Louise Perry (and Christine Emba) make some good points about why so many people are unhappy with their private life. They changed my pill stance a little too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 03:25 AM
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Yes, it's the suspension of judgement that people seem to have trouble with, particulaly for an emotionally-charged crime. If a woman (or man) tells me they were raped, I would try to be supportive, while realizing that a legal system has to operate according to standards of evidence. People recognize this necessity until it is a crime where they project themselves as the victim and then want to carve out an exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 03:00 AM
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I'm not currently living in the south, and a woman could pretty easily have a man hauled off to jail with just a phone call, not to mention the court of public opinion which is in session (and eager to convict) 24/7 on social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 11:57 PM
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Pussy occupies considerable real estate in the male psyche, so it can be a plausible answer for nearly any male behavior: "Why did you go to the club?" "Pussy" "Why did you buy a new car?" "Pussy" "Why did you fail the math test?" "Pussy" However, other thoughts creep into a man's brain too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 09:17 PM
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Strangely, I find that your one-word answer and u/stlmick's eerie prophesy are both convincing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 07:59 PM
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You used personal experience, an anecdote, to refute a trend within a population. That's nonsensical, and then you act like there is nothing wrong with it. What's the point in discussing anything? Using facts and good argumentation is not being pretentious, it's the way mature adults have a discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 03:45 PM
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Translation: Of course I'm just pulling stuff out of my ass, isn't everyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 08:18 AM
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Nice post. I've arrived at a similar place through daily meditation. PPD is a great place to vent, but I most appreciate posts, like this one, that help people move beyond the bitterness.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 05:19 AM
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I've been there. I get, and practice, the liberal ideal of accepting people for their own indiviuality, but I also know the conservative truth that most men crave a purpose in life and thrive when they ovecome challenge. "Embrace the suck", get in a stoic mindset, and build yourself up for your own sake. Good luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 12:19 AM
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Make yourself into a quality person instead of reverse egineering yourself into a person you think women will find attractive. Keep the focus on you until you become attractive, then learn to build a relationship with someone, which will require a different set of skills, as well as compromise.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 11:56 PM
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I'm a liberal-conservative mix grounded in biology. There is room for many types of lifestyles, but most men will want to be (and should be) the big spoon. You seem to understand this, but you are trying to avoid it, hoping that someone will offer you an easier path.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 11:15 PM
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Wholesome manly advice, regardless of pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 10:52 PM
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I’m attracted to feminine beauty, but I also want someone who could be there to catch me when I struggle in certain areas of my life. Is this too much to ask? Yes, it is too much to ask. Don't expect a woman to love you like your mama. Women make babies, and they don't need a man-baby. Should I keep learning more about masculine vs feminine energies or stop labeling myself, get a job and go with the flow? Stop learning about "energies", unless you are studying physics, and focus on skills to get…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 10:11 PM
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That's a pretty fantastic prediction. It could turn out that way or it might be more mundane.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 08:48 PM
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Ding, ding, ding ... this is the answer. It's a hard no for me, and the logic to justify it, though seemingly considerate towards men, is all wrong. It's as if the OP is saying that you should help your dinner-party host out by inviting yourself to the event.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 08:30 PM
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There is a problem with your futuristic vision--demographics. Looking at who in the world is having babies gives a very different prediction. The future appears to be conservative. That doesn't make me happy, but so long as we are mortal, those populating the future are the ones who will shape it. It's quite possible that Western culture becomes a momentary blip in history during which society rebelled against their biological inclinations only to be extinguished by the resulting decline in birt…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 07:04 PM
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When the woman proposes, what is the analog for the engagement ring, a widescreen TV? "Dude, it's only 55 inches. I don't think she is that serious about you."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 02:55 PM
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There are a lot of primal behaviors that we don't act upon. Culture modifies biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 01:41 PM
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This isn't cute, funny, or manly. Grow the f**k up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 05:28 AM
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Yes, but it wasn't as though ancient men sat down and worked out a the philosophy of "hoeing" that was passed down through the ages. Rather, an evolved behavior to prevent sexual access to one's mate is manifested as taboos and norms within modern humans. It goes back much further than human history.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 03:56 AM
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Those puritans cast a long shadow then--around the world and backwards in time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 01:58 AM
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I believe that it is a primal instinct rooted in biology, so it is not entirely rational though it is not hard to see why this dynamic would have evolved. Women are "ruined" by being inseminated. Men (straight men) have a deep-rooted disgust for another man's sperm. Sperm by themselves are not dangerous, possibly even nutritious, so why all the sperm hatred? It's because those little guys could deny your reproductive ability by impregnating your mate. Inherited behaviors often work by evoking em…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 01:41 AM
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Not gonna lie. That's not too far from the way many of us think. Women become "dirty" from sex. Sex isn't like a bath for a man, but they aren't corrupted by it, the way women are. To some degree this seems like an innate bias to reduce undesirable reproductive outcomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 12:37 AM
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Just caught me off guard. ydy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 06:51 AM
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Glad to hear womping is still a thing. The right amount of it can be very beneficial for some.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 06:16 AM
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Did I accidentally stumble into a porn forum?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 05:54 AM
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Good points. Whenever you compare two populations, it is important to specify whether you are comparing group averages or the population's dispersion. Men often dominate both tails of the distribution--there are many more 7 ft. males, but the shortest living person is also a male.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 01:55 AM
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That fits my experience. Trying to boss a woman doesn't go well, but if you have a good plan, she may be willing to join your team. A Russian woman I worked with (a cardiologist) used the expression "the man is the head, while the woman is the neck".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 01:15 AM
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No, that's way too little. Wait for the guy who can wake you up for a 4am blowjob.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 03:28 AM
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They definitely seem to shape the image for what is attractive. Jason Statham was a big help to guys with thin hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 04:11 AM
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Could be last call. Get it while you can.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 04:03 AM
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Similar experience. Conservatives were the homophobe bigots who wanted creationism in the classroom. Turned out not to be so cut and dry.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 03:53 AM
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You are not alone. Do you discover conservative aspects of your personality as you get older?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 03:44 AM
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No, they will all arrive at that decision independently and then deny it on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 03:39 AM
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From my experience, all they have.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 08:06 PM
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Your argument works better for why mother's are more often child abusers, and no doubt many women become trapped in a hellish life where they endure abuse for the sake of their family, but you ignored the part about women ignoring the red flags early in the relationship. There is evidence that women do willingly choose men with toxic characterisitics, just like young boys are prone to choosing to join a gang. If you misuse statistics to ignore the important social dynamics, then you limit the ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 07:48 PM
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Well, I've never been duped into paying much more than a $100 for a pair of shoes, so there's that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 03:48 PM
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Women protested for years. Lobbied for years. None of that was handed to them. Every fucking thing was handed to them! Women didn't win anything, and except for babies, they don't create anything. They just bitch about how unhappy they are until men give the women the things that men created. Men feel a protective obligation toward women, similar to the feeling we have towards children. We are your benefactors, and you hate it, so you invent a story about how you overcame oppression, but without…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 06:27 AM
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Translation: "Will the demure fantasy angels over the water make me hate the homeland viragos any more than I already do?" Dude, I'm not feminist, but come on.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 07:12 PM
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the words of discord
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 02:29 PM
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A ChatGPT haiku about men and women arguing: Words clash like thunder, Men and women in debate, Storm of discord roars.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 02:09 PM
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I'm pretty sure that most people are just superficial. edit: spelling
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 01:59 PM
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No, we are not playing the "I was wrong but how was I adamant that I was not wrong" game. I commiserate with any person who is socially awkward and there are not doubt many women who suffer from this, but at the population level men are experiencing a crisis.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 01:11 AM
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The recent decline in male friendships is one of the most frequently mentioned social phenomena (just do a simple search). How could you miss that, much less be so adamant that it is not a thing? Here is one: https://www.americansurveycenter.org/commentary/american-men-suffer-a-friendship-recession/
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 12:39 AM
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You are absolutely right about this, and studies supprt it. The woman gaslighting you is her username.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 11:41 PM
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Yes, when united in a common ideal or purpose, compromise with your partner becomes effortless--success for one is a success for both.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 04:00 PM
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This is good advice. A little meditation combined with stoic philosophy is a powerful tool all men should master.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 05:14 AM
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Similar experience. The urge for sex led to the discovery of intimacy, which is far more rewarding.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 04:53 AM
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if you say things that are not true (sex isn't stigmatized) I am not saying that. It was an attempt to clarify the concept of hookup culture. Get it? The argument is not even mine. Christine Emba breaks down the problems with hookup culture in her book Rethinking Sex. Go and argue it with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 10:21 PM
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You are arguing the minutiae of a stance that I don't even advocate.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 09:51 PM
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I meant that neither side is stigmatized: men and women are equally free to act lustfully. I'm not advocating this point of view. I reject it completely, but hookup culture is the logical result if sex is viewed as nothing more than a transaction between horny individuals. Having consent in place is good and necessary, but it only provides control and does not assure that the sex will be fulfilling.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 09:06 PM
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A couple gyms in my area have carved out a "women's only" section"; however, the women pay the same rate, which means men subsidize the mini estro-gym. I have no provblem with separate spaces, just don't expect me to pay for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 07:35 PM
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I recently read Christine Emba's Rethinking Sex. She argues that we are treating sex much too lightly and that it is ruining our relationships. I'm not pilled and not a feminist, but I agree with her main argument and wish that I had incorporated that thinking earlier in life. Emba has YouTube videos where she lays out her concerns. Louise Perry says something similar (not as familiar with her arguments).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 07:25 PM
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The one in my neighborhood has that on the sign out front. "Available Women" right beneath "Jesus Saves".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 07:03 PM
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But if society says that sex is equal and acceptable for men and women so long as there is consent, then no party is taking advantage of the other in a hookup.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 06:48 PM
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When much younger I had a hot date with an attractive woman. She took her makeup off during the night, and I awoke next to a different person. In hindsight, she was naturally pretty with an attractive personality, but the transformation was very jarring to one so inexperienced. It was a little like awaking to find her teeth in a glass on the bedside table.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 05:31 AM
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Good points mam.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 05:07 AM
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In other words, winners don't complain about the game, regardless of what game is played. As others have mentioned, a better question is if the hookup culture game eliminates desirable opportunities, such as the possibility of finding a longterm partner. Free beer has its downsides.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 03:15 AM
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That was mentioned in an evolutionary biology class. It is not a learned behavior and has been observed in many cultures. The thinking is that it helps males manage a territory that they will use for hunting or finding a mate. Males do it more because females don't generally hunt or go looking for a mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 12:15 AM
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On average, men are more willing to sacrifice more for career gain, more often resort to physical violence (women tend toward character assassination), and show a greater interest in objects (women tend towards people). With regard to survival skills, it seems likely to be situation dependent. Young males appear to have a wired predispostion for exploring - they roam further, build forts (yes, that is an observed phenomenon), and organize into hierarchical groups. So, a group of coordinated men …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 10:44 PM
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Misandry? You misunderstood the hypothetical.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 03:05 PM
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It isn't just that we perceive the two to be different. They are different, and you described some of the reasons for that difference. Imagine if a men and women entered into pacts to each own only one pair of shoes. Men seldom break the agreement because many men are satisfied with only one pair, but the men who "cheat" are sharply denounced, more so than female cheaters, because it is a difficult burden for a woman to be limited to one pair. The situation for each party is different, and this …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 03:32 AM
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Not always. Back in the 60s they were depicted as the wise head of the household (e.g. "Father Knows Best", "Leave It To Beaver", "The Brady Bunch"), but that image slowly morphed into Homer Simpson by 1989.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 01:04 AM
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Early in life, nature turns on the hormones causing us to obsess over sex. But those who manage to experience a good relationship learn that intimacy is more satisfying and that sex is one route to experiencing it. Sex becomes the chocolate cake dessert part of a nutritional meal of intimacy and connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 02:04 PM
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I doh't like his age cutoff either, but if Leo began losing his clout, then he would most likely be dumped. Both parties know the deal in this situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 01:28 PM
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I was naked in a group shower room. Feel like I got a little taste of how a female stripper feels, though without feeling as vulnerable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 01:02 AM
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Gay men regularly hit on me when I was younger. Only bothered me when I was showering after my swim.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 04:16 PM
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Though I'm not a proponent of fat normalization, I completely agree that people, particularly men, can be unnecessarily mean-spirited. I have a couple of ideas about what may be contributing to this. First, many men resent women for the perceived amount of gym-time needed to maintain attractiveness. Men often work hard developung an attractive physique, while a woman need only avoid gaining weight (muscles can look good but are often unnecessary). And second, I believe fat shaming may have some …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 04:27 AM
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I agree. It does not need to be so abrasive, but shame is a useful way to enforce societal norms. Fat acceptance is entirely the wrong response, particularly in a country suffering an obesity epidemic that impacts health and longevity.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 03:43 AM
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Yep. Was a postdoc in Socal, miserably poor, but respected by women who value education.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 05:34 PM
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I'm trying to imagine cold approach lines for a religious setting. "I know God exists when I see a creation like you baby." "Excuse me sister, but you've broken the 7th commandment by stealing my heart."
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 05:23 PM
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It was a cheeky attempt at humor, but I believe the inherent asymmetrical aspect of sex is an important part of these disagreements.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 06:46 PM
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Is a man who beats a woman worse than a woman who beats a man? Some would argue yes because men are generally more capable of inflicting bodily damage. With cheating, the situation is reversed: a woman's infidelity has the potntial to pack a greater punch, so I believe you could make the argument that a woman who cheats is worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 07:05 PM
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When a man cheats on a woman, it's a little like someone used some of your toothpaste, but when a woman cheats on a man, it is as if someone splooged into your refrigerator. No matter how many times it is washed, you will be thinking of it while eating dinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 12:43 AM
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My comment was directed at the biology being bandied about. The preponderance of science evidence (anthropology supports it too) is that human males participate in child-rearing much more so than other primates but that humans have still tended to be polygynous for most of our evolutionary history. So, if you are arguing against double standards based on your belief that humans are innately monogamous, then your argument is on shaky ground. A more defensible stance would be to justify your posit…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 05:59 PM
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There may be evidence suggeating that humans evolved to be less promiscous, but there is also good evidence suggesting that we have tended towards polygyny. Our sexual dimorphism suggests this. Comparative genomics also estimates that we have about twice as many female ancestors as male ancestors. Just as our evolved tendency toward violence does not justify its use in civil society, such findings provide insight, but not necessarily justification.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 04:34 PM
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I don't have to explain anything Not you personally, but a rational person who is trying to build a model to explain the finding. I skimmed the PNAS paper. They acknowledged that explanations similar to the one I proposed have generally been the accepted view. You obviously did not read the papers or do not understand them. I can see this is the wrong place for understanding. Enjoy your "discussion".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 06:24 PM
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Being more attractive to women certainly suggests so, but what you have to explain is why men have any facial hair at all and why some women are attracted to hairy men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 04:45 PM
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Try reproductive fitness.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 02:59 PM
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Not where biology is concerned. There is always some utility function at play.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 06:54 PM
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There is no situation in which necessity (or context) is not a oart of it. You are arguing for a floating abstfaction. In one case attaction is working to minimize exteral danger, in the second it has shifted to minimize internal danger. It is the same necessity playing out in different contexts.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 06:18 PM
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Any preference exists within a context. Much of human attractiveness depends on status. In times of strife, masculinity affords greater status and is therefore more attractive. If that attractiveness seems less genuine because it is motivated by necessity, then imagine a hypothetical utopia. Under perfect tranquility, attractiveness is meaningless. It is only relevant within a specific context.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 06:06 PM
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The opposite would be true. Humans evolved under harsh and competitive conditions with relative security and abundance arriving late in our evolution. Attractiveness for masculinity would be the default except under conditions of safety and prosperity when it would be seen as threatening.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 05:40 PM
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My initial thought is that people in 1st world countries have the luxury of dispensing with masculinity. When there are no invaders at the border and infrastructure has been put in place, concern shifts to communal harmony and culture, making those manly men less desirable. I'd be curious to know how attractiveness changes during wartime. Is there a Zelinsky effect?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 04:38 PM
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I did not like some of the things I saw in FDS, but we have forgotten the importance of free speech and how hard it is to attain once it is lost. Words are not violence, and I don't have a right not to be offended. If someone says something you do not like, then put on your big boy pants (or big girl panties) and confront their ideas with better ones. That is the way it should work.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 05:05 AM
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Yeah, my sympathy took a nosedive when I read that, though maybe he expressed himself poorly. Good on you for pointing it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 12:27 AM
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I picked up on that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 09:53 PM
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And a Pepsi can for estimating girth.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 09:45 PM
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. . . a satisfying day in the neighborhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 05:09 AM
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No, because I don't want to miss out on attending the Oscars.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 11:07 PM
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Yep. If you are not ready for kids, you need to be especially cautious with the 30 somethings. Been there, regretted that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 09:59 PM
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To me, women age more like a roller coaster. The newest model may appeal to some, but the older one is still an exciting ride and provides a more comfortable experience. And for some, not being able to have children is a feature, not a bug.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 09:54 PM
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So you haven't actually had any experience of anyone getting "baby fever" and then deciding to take birth control into their own hands My ex-wife and the girlfriend I mentioned were both examples. The girlfriend took it upon herself to get pregnant, but later agreed to an abortion (we were both very young at the time). My ex stopped taking birth control, worked out an agenda for having a baby, and enlisted my mother to help get me on board with the agenda. She was honest, though a little devious…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 06:37 PM
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Zero children. But I was married to a woman in her 30s and dated another woman who wanted to have a baby, so I am familiar with the behavior that can ensue. In the US, it has also become fodder for daytime TV: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeS_Y8q9kcY
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 05:47 PM
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Have you collected data? My experience suggests otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 04:43 PM
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Or the common case of pregnancy due to eratic behavior when one person contracts baby fever.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 03:41 PM
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Or even used to describe pregnanciea in which one of the persons derailed contraception because they wanted the pregnancy at the time of intercourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 12:39 AM
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I don't think I can be reasoned into that. You like what you like.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 09:31 PM
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Does that imply that men should also be attracted to a woman if she has a penis?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 06:04 AM
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lol. The image that conjured made me laugh out loud.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 06:01 AM
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Yeah, not always one or the other. I saw an interview of a Rwandan rape survivor. She was raped and her hands were cut off. Chilling. It is difficult to compare such atrocities to say who has it "better". However, the Ukrainian soldiers are an example of men acting at their noblest and best. Outmanned and under-equipped, they are fighting Russian tanks with rifles and and hand-held rockets as they desperately evacuate their women and children to safety. Yet the response to this is that "women ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 03:33 AM
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It is terrible that anyone would have to make such a choice. However, throughout history after an invasion women often had an option not available to men. The victors would kill the men but keep the women because they were viewed as a non-threatening source of labor, sex, and reproductive capacity. At the very least, these women could choose whether or not to end their own life, which was a choice not available to the men. Just last week, Putin threatened that if the Ukrainians blockaded in the …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 03:05 AM
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I stopped dating women who identify as feminists. Not because I am particularly conservative, but because modern feminism has become delusional and misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 02:46 AM
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It sounds like you were okay with the act but traumatized by how others might respond. I've also posted that boys generally experience sex differently. As long as it is not predatory, we are often grateful for early sexual opportunities. When I was 15, I took an older co-worker to a motel after she had a domestic problem. She invited me to stay the night. That was some time ago, but I still think of her fondly. I've talked to many guys who had similar experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 02:28 AM
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Placing a low value on your own life is wong, I think, but arguing that someone else's life does not have value is monstrous. Shouldn't one have a say in the value of his or her life?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 12:44 AM
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Regardless of whether you value life, it is somehing precious that is being taken away from many soldiers defending their family and country. I hope you get to a place where you are able to appreciate its value. Though it may not be great now, those lucky to be alive have hope for it to improve.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 11:59 PM
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If you have PTSD, then you are at least breathing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 11:16 PM
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Rape is tragic but not comparable to being drutally killed in combat. And women are safer: if it were more dangeous outside of the war zone, the trains would be bringing women into ukraine.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 10:22 PM
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Oh, ofcourse, it has becomee accepted wisdom that women are the ones who suffer most during war. It would have been more humane to send the feminists out to destroy the Russian tanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 09:55 PM
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Being allowed to leave when the Russian army invades.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 05:31 PM
2

I checked the encyclopedia. Seattle is well known for coffee and pedophiles.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 08:25 PM
2

History and modern third-world societies show us that when it is entirely legal, the overwhelming majority of men will seek out children as their first choice. The vast majority of men in any setting outside of first-world 21st century cultures prefer children. This is where we may disagree. I'm not an anthropologist, but my understanding is that throughout history there has generally been a ritual demarcation for the transition into adulthood (boys and girls). The age is young by modern standar…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 07:10 PM
0

lol. Great extension of the analogy. But it is still the wrong conclusion to draw. Let's assume that your hypothetical description of women's lust for animal sex were true. You then discover that many females are aroused when viewing giraffes. Now you have to put the new finding into context. How would you explain the vast majority of women who, when given the opportunity, do not act sexually around giraffes? Could it be that a woman becomes aroused by phallic imagery in the abstract, such as a …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 06:44 PM
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I don't doubt that there are dark aspects to our sexual psychology that make us uncomfortable; however, being aroused by seeing a naked prepubescent is not necessarily the same as desiring them for sex. I saw a study where women were aroused by watching zoo animals having sex, but they did not conclude that women secretly want to mate with a giraffe.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 05:53 PM
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I agree. Those are important details. The post tickled my sense of (dark) humor, but I have long decided to have access to a suicide pill to avoid being forced to live in an unhappy situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 04:58 AM
1

Take up a hobby that involves edged tools or weapons, like carving or blow guns.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 05:18 AM
1

Yeah, I can imagine a future where pregnancy without those options available becomes a terrifying prospect. That said, I can also imagine a Gattica-like dystopia resulting from them. It seems that you would at the very least want to provide access to everyone (or no one).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 05:42 PM
1

Exactly. It isn't eugenics when there is no central authority enforcing it. You could even argue that this is a human right.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 05:07 PM
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Good advice. Telling men what they need to hear. Reminds me of the quote, "how we spend our life is how we spend our days."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 10:14 AM
0

A lot of women have been let into STEM because of the sexist mantra of "women are underrepresented".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 05:00 AM
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To also be fair, the dude does seem a little angry, and his second paragraph could use a little improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 04:58 AM
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In a novel I read, the young man's mother teaches her son to remember to make conversation with the least attractive lady in the room. It was intended as an act of chivalry during an age when being overlooked might cause great anxiety to a lady. I think it is still a good practice with a little update. First, extend the practice to both sexes and for whatever reason the person might have for feeling uncomfortable. Second, realize that the person may prefer to alone or that others may see them as…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 08:30 PM
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Hypergamy, as studied by biologists, doesn't necessarily include the idea that women will leave their mate, only that they tend to prioritize seeking a mate of higher status, similar to the way that men tend to prioritize youth and beauty. Those are factual observations, but whether a random person believes them may depend on the way you frame the information. There's a good quote (Rebecca Goldstein?) that sums up human mate selection: "women are ornaments and men are appliances."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 11:11 PM
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There's truth in what you say, but it is a bleak perspective to dissect every seemingly kind act to identify the underlying instinctual cause in order to discount its goodness. Few acts would survive such scrutiny. Might the motherly instinct of the nice girl be viewed as a kind of pre-programmed goodness? Her choice may not have been independent of her biology (I don't think any choices really are), but it could still be seen as kind and noble.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 06:43 AM
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Don't you love it when you post an honest answer and then get psychoanalyzed by an armchair psychologists who feels sufficiently informed to criticize your character? From your parenting description, I would venture to guess that you are doing a better job than the parents of some who are posting in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 05:31 AM
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This is a good point. Ask anyone who is old enough to have seen their high-school fantasy women become plain over the years. In addition to placing more importance on inner beauty, I think most of us should also change the way we assess outer beauty. I saw an interesting YouTube video in which men and women were asked if they are more attracted to a person with a nice face or a nice body. I was surprised that nearly everyone chose facial beauty. Facial beauty is something you are born with, whil…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 12:49 AM
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. . . she posts vids of her sticking bananas up her ass every Monday and Thursday and fingers herself on Tuesdays and Saturdays. I like this one's consistency and work ethic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 11:43 PM
1

anger in men is wrongly misclassified as not being an emotional response. Exactly. It's common to hear people say that men need to be free to express their emotions, but I don't think that is what they really want. Male emotion is tamped down for a good reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 06:04 PM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 05:25 PM
1

Pity is a little strong. I genuinely admired both of these persons (as friends), but yes, there was a strong sense of "duty" towards them and my own image of a man being someone that is always down for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 04:39 PM
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I've had sex with two female friends that I did not find physically attractive because I felt it would be too hurtful and awkward to reject them. I would have preferred the option to "opt out", and perhaps it says something about my own conflict avoidance, but in both cases things went okay. The sex wasn't passionate, and I didn't make romantic overtures afterwards. We just went back to being friends. The one-time encounter seemed to save face. I've often wondered how often this situation occurs…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 08:56 AM
2

I agree. It seems reasonable, and fits with observation, that males often channel/release aggression through sports, including martial arts.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 09:52 PM
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Women are more prone to empathic emotions, while men are more prone to aggressive emotions. Aggressive emotions have to be repressed to function in a modern society, so males either learn to control their emotions or suffer severe consequences, like going to prison. Give a person, male or female, testosterone, and they will behave more aggressively, so there is a biological basis, though it may be modulated by culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 09:18 PM
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I had a good friend from India. He never had a date. His marriage was arranged by his and his wife's parents. This seemed bizarre to me given that he had a Ph.D in chemistry and we both often discussed our atheism. Such traditions seemed out of place with his character. However, my marriage, and many of those with whom we worked ended in divorce. His kept going, and there seemed to be genuine affection between him and his wife. On reflection, I realized the wisdom of involving other family membe…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 06:35 AM
1

"equity" is well choosed here. A couple where one is more powerful and lead the other is concerning. I believe "inequity" is the wrong word because it implies additional meaning that is unrelated to the topic. Inequality is when one person or group has a different status, such as in a power imbalance. Inequity is inequality caused by injustice. Inequality, regardless of inequity, is the problem being discussed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 11:32 PM
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Or to weight unequally into decisions that should be taken by the 2 parts of the couple. Or even worse : to control the life of the partner. I think we basically agree, but your phrasing is a little confusing. Inequity implies injustice, which is a problem, but the parties in a relationship may simply be unequal, which may not be a problem so long is there is coercion.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 08:55 PM
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If by "equal" you mean equal rights before the law and of sound cognitive abilities and free from dire circumstances, then I agree. However, many relationships (maybe most) involve an element of inequality, and they are no less consensual.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 04:59 PM
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She agreed that age-gaps can be okay, so long as they are not predatory. It isn't a simple yes/no answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 04:43 PM
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Both of these comments also made me think. Thank you both for the explanations.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 08:07 PM
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I think it is important to differentiate between a theory that attempts to describe truth and a strategy intended to produce results. TRP, PUA, and FDS are useful to their followers so long as they tend to produce a desired outcome, even if they fall short of a complete explanation, work only in certain contexts, or don't generalize to all of the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 06:21 PM
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That's sad. Social science has been broken for a long time. Feynman described it as "cargo cult" science. In their defense, they study the most difficult problems, and other areas science, such as medicine, have a notoriously low replication rate. I used to read a lot of evolutionary biology. It has always had critics, and Stephen J. Gould made his "just so" remark about it. Then when E. O. Wilson claimed that insights could be made about human behavior from his study of ants, heads began explod…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 11:20 AM
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I see elements of a conspiracy theory - a nugget of truth embellished with conjecture that provides a handy explanation for a vexing problem. Evolutionary psychology, from which the red pill derives its foundation, is often criticized for "just so" theories that provide a tidy explanation but are difficult to prove. And I've yet to find a red pill scientists who is trying to verify the accuracy of their claims. The same criticism applies to feminist theories and much of the work in gender studie…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 10:35 AM
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Good overview. I'm also fascinated with pillist ideologies and their feminine equivalent. I'm looking forward to your book. Maybe you can contrast it with the sexual arms races observed in nature (e.g. duck penises).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 09:52 AM
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lol. I'm also lost with some of the pill terminology.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 12:07 AM
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And when you enforce them, you are solidifying your place in the dominance hierarchy. If you fail to enforce a challenge, then you may slip a notch. I believe the evidence is strong that these hierarchies, used by males and females, are rooted in biology, though their expression is modulated my culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 11:52 PM
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Expressing great confidence is a form of dominance. If it is perceived by men to be in an area where they are dominant, then you are more likely to be called out for your arrogance. Men do this with other men and know that they must defend their reputation, sometimes using violence. Female displays of confidence can be particularly annoying because of the special protections they are given, allowing then to make unchallenged claims, hence, the view that women "live in a bubble".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 11:32 PM
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I did pretty well throughout the course, not top of the class, but well enough, then blew the final exam.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 09:34 PM
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Join a Meetup group for a social activity that you enjoy. I do hiking, I view each event as an opportunity to practice my social skills and make friends, but a certain percentage (dating is numbers game) will be women with whom you share mutual attraction. Edit: If you can do a cold approach like Vtridolta suggests, then I believe that also works, but I've never been comfortable doing that. Finding a social group is a great help since many of the participants are looking too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 02:32 AM
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Thanks for your honesty. I'm a cryer, but I believe there are good reasons why men are inhibited, culturally and biologically, from expressing strong emotion. Because of their capacity for rage and aggression, suppressing emotional displays in men may have reduced violence in the community. And learning to suppress anger may generalize to suppressing all emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 04:13 PM
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By "wrecked", I was referring not only to climate change, but all the ways in which the environment is being degraded: pollution, deforestation, loss of biodiversity, ozone layer depletion, as well as climate change. These countries however are having a far worse environmental impact the developed nations. You have this backwards. Consumption is the important metric. While increased population size can lead to greater consumption, it's not (yet) the case for poorer nations. Poorer nations consum…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 05:48 AM
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Sorry. I misunderstood and didn't mean to interrupt the dialogue. Although the economics of a declining population are difficult, and many see concern over population growth as outdated Malthusian thinking, our planet's environment is being wrecked. And this was true at a time when about half of the world's population was not significantly contributing to consumption. It's as if a second team of humans were sitting on the bench waiting to get in the game. Their desire to join the rest of us as c…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 02:45 AM
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No one argues for an ever increasing society. I find many who argue for an ever increasing population. Elon Musk is a prominent proponent, but it's a typical view (in the US) that sustained economic growth requires an expanding population, and that this is a necessity to maintain our place in the world. For environmental reasons, I've advocated for population reduction and have been surprised by the extent and fervor of the pushback.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 10:11 PM
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It's like saying gestation and leadership are even in the same category. I think this is just a semantic quibble. Substitute "leadership" for primary role or responsibility, though I suspect (I'm not a historian) that women did often take the leadership role in the home and family. ​ Men went to fight because they were much more likely to come back than women Agree to disagree. It's not difficult to find examples of sending the least valuable members of society into combat. If not slaves, then m…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 03:38 AM
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Good post! Worth the read.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 04:46 AM
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The first time I encountered red pill, I thought, "somebody is trying to weaponize behavioral psychology." That branch of study has been upsetting since the beginning, probably because of the uncomfortable truths it reveals. But what dismayed me was that the knowledge was being applied to further men's base desires. Will more pussy really make you happier? It's an honest question. Think back on your past exploits. Is that the legacy you want to leave? I am familiar with the same hunger and desir…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 03:59 AM
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I've been watching their movies since the time they were the Wachowski brothers. "Trans" wasn't a thing when the first movie came out. Lilly Wachowski seems to be giving a new interpretation, or at least revealing one that was not widely known.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 03:29 AM
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That's a really interesting analysis. I'm a little dismayed by the rise of "pillism", but it makes sense as a reaction to radical feminism and the demonization of men, not unlike the rise of Donald Trump as a reaction to wokeism.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 03:23 AM
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Totally agree. They remind me of conspiracy theories that have just enough truth to gain followers, while failing to explain important exceptions, let alone nuance.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 03:13 AM
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Exactly. Nature played a dirty trick on both sides. None of us asked to be thrown into this hormonally-driven drama. We can at least acknowledge our predicament without demonizing each other and, to the extent possible, try to avoid the resentment and temptation to become conniving that comes from our own individual pain and suffering.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 03:10 AM
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The idea of internally gestating another human terrifies me. I cannot fully appreciate how ominous this task must have been in ancient times. But this supports my assertion that throughout almost all of history reproduction had to be priority #1 if the species or tribe was to survive. Because women have a monopoly on that role, it was left to men to ensure that it was not interrupted, somewhat like drones protecting the queen. This sometimes required engaging in conflict so gruesome that many me…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 04:35 PM
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Basically, since food, shelter and child rearing (f) or protection(m) were joint projects you're comparing 9 months gestation to a single ejaculation. That doesn't make sense. It's not clear what you mean here. Survival was the joint project. Each sex played an important role, but since population expansion is always limited by the reproductive capacity of women, the men had to do whatever was necessary to keep them safe, which included the most grueling and dangerous jobs. If women had been val…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 04:21 PM
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That doesn't seem true to me. Think about childbirth. Women being obligated sexually to their husbands without access to birth control means they were literally expected to bear children until they dropped dead from it. And you must consider the toll warfare itself took on the female populations: rape, murder, slavery, abuse in general. Besides that, men were never considered expendable, particularly not soldiers. Exactly. The persistence of the tribe depended on the reproductive capacity of wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 06:01 AM
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Ugliest man I've been with turned out to be the worst person I ever met. So not only did the looks disappoint, the character wasn't anything to hand around. No doubt he thought you were a great find. Maybe try your own advice of self-improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 05:37 AM
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Ouch! There could be some truth in that now, but I was quite athletic and not bad looking when I was younger. I sometimes sensed trepidation or inhibition. One of the longterm relationships was with a woman who had a facial deformity. She was a damn fine person, and it didn't bother me a bit, but she was always insecure when we were intimate. You might try giving the unattractive ones more of a chance. You could be overlooking a person of quality character, and judging from your post, such an as…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 05:17 AM
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Willingness and enthusiasm have never been an issue, but 90% of the time they lie there with their eyes closed. I put a lot of effort into pleasing them and always tried to hold out until they had as many orgasms as desired. It soon became a chore. Would have been nice if they took on a little more of the love-making burden.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 04:31 AM
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Sorry. I added the missing word ("exploited"). My point is that I think it is unfair to see one sex as having been exploited by the other. They had different roles in the struggle to survive. The roles open to females were generally more restrictive, but males were generally more expendable. It's not until the advent of cities, largely built by men, that greater opportunities, particularly for women, even become a possibility. But the narrative always has men as the oppressors, never the liberat…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 03:22 AM
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But history could be interpreted as men were being exploited by women: humans have roughly twice as many female ancestors as male ancestors (~ %50 of males were eliminated from the gene pool), males were the combatants in wars, etc. The same pattern was repeated everywhere. It seems that everyone was struggling to survive within the harsh conditions to which they were born. If modern infrastructure collapsed, I expect that we would return, by necessity, to something similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 10:47 PM
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Doesn't this question the narrative that men have been hypersexualizing women (i.e. women have been innocent victims) when so many willingly hypersexualize themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 09:19 PM
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I think society, and the pursuit of sex, inhibit men from making negative comments to women in real life, but the checks on indecency are removed in reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 06:59 PM
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Same here. I mostly agree with the OP, but some of us don't feel comfortable with being forced to choose a side and want to see all the arguments. I'd even venture that some of those who are more entrenched will sometimes have their views shaped in an unexpected direction through interaction with the "enemy".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 06:47 PM
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Yep, female is the default sex in humans. Without a little hormonal nudge at the right time in development, no penis for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 05:58 PM
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I agree, "penis blind" and "uterus deaf" sound like the foundation for a best-selling relationship book.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 05:48 PM
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Good advice. Having a partner who worships you also denies you of one of the benefits of being in a relationship: the other person is in a unique position to tell you the uncomfortable things you need to hear that no one else can say.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 12:31 AM
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Good explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 12:57 PM
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No. Those are entirely different scenarios. Many boys struggle with sexual desire that invades their minds at the onset of puberty. They become infatuated with female anatomy, and when they start dating, they will most likely be the ones to initiate and conduct sex. Moreover, women are generally not sexual predators and males are not threatened by what they bring to sex. Vaginas and breasts are the first things we all encounter, so generally not too threatening, particularly not to a boy who is …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 07:04 PM
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This thread is literally about the asymmetrical difference in attitude some men have about the sexual activity of sons vs. daughters. You not only missed that but assume that you know what is best for everyone else. An adult preying upon children, for any reason, is wrong. Full stop. However, some boys might benefit from a sexual mentor.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 04:11 PM
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Until recently, most people realized the reason for having such a double standard. Boys and girls experience sex differently. They have different desires, and the consequences of sex are different. If a boy is heterosexual and is bothered by sexual desire, then giving him a safe outlet for it may be a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 05:35 AM
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Not all boys are the same and care should be taken, but many struggle with the intense sexual desire that hits them around 11 or 12. Being shown the ropes by a gentle older woman could be a positive thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 05:22 AM
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Exactly. The amount of vitriol each side has for the other is absurdly ironic given that each of us would be on the opposite side of the divide, ostensibly behaving as members on that side do, if only the sex chromosome had been reversed in the lucky swimmer that lead to our conception.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 02:12 PM
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So true. When I was married, my wife and I were continually asked when we were gonna make a baby, but never once asked about stepping up for the unfortunate ones already made.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 06:37 PM
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He is targeting young persons to engage in a sensitive and sometimes dangerous activity because he wants it "fresh". He blames women collectively for his rejection and their unwillingness to "give it up and spread it around" and uses it to justify callous behavior toward individuals. This is really shit, and I only responded because it sickens to see men with this attitude. It's no wonder feminists invent concepts like "toxic masculinity".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 10:16 PM
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It's the OP who seems unconcerned about the person being happy and consenting, much less emotionally mature/stable.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 11:33 PM
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There are situations in which there isn't anything wrong with one partner being significantly older than the other, but what you're describing sounds predatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 08:59 PM
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Exactly. Real life is nuanced. I've had female friends that I didn't find attractive, but some of whom were at times attractive in a different situation. And then there are the attractive women with whom you enjoy friendly banter, but are not (for whatever reason) pursuing for sex. There's a whole swirl of conflicting interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 09:59 AM
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Yeah, there's an assumption that all men want to increase their libido, while I think a growing number may prefer (for multiple reasons) to diminish it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 09:34 AM
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Assuming the effect were reversible, I would be interested in a pill that allowed me to reduce my libido in order to focus on other things. And being able to tune one's libido to a convenient level could have a similar liberating effect for men as birth control pills did for women. Sorry, just realized this is a CMV. I agree with some of the other posts that male sex drive may be the most powerful force for change, but contemplating the effects of controlling it is more interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 04:10 PM
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Actually, they're intolerant of nuanced discussion. Thanks for proving my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 10:12 PM
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Good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 11:21 PM
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Are your views intolerant? No one has any obligation to tolerate intolerance. I think all perspectives should be open for discussion. It's the new liberal orthodoxy that is intolerant. Blasphemy was once the domain of right-wingers. These days those claims come from both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 11:20 PM
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Ah, of course. One girlfriend did relate how she had been touched by an uncle. It never occurred to me to mention the "slaves" game I played with the two brothers who lived across the street when I was a child. But it wasn't traumatic, so probably irrelevant. Though I don't have any attraction to men, I think the memory left me more open-minded.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 01:21 AM
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That's good advice and something I've tried to practice. I've reflexive laughed out of politeness to things that I realized were completely against my principles.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 01:12 AM
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You're right. But even at lunch during the workday (back when you ate with your co-workers) people are reluctant to express controversial views, especially those that are not PC. The new liberal mindset (I consider myself old-school liberal) cannot tolerate dissent of their orthodoxy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 01:10 AM
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Good points. I read Ordinary Men recently and have been wondering how to keep my moral courage excised properly so that I am strong enough to speak up when it matters. I think cultivating a personality of bluntness is generally a good practice. You don't have to be screeching, but lodge even-keeled objections in all but the most inappropriate occasions to practices that violate an important moral principle. People will come to know and respect your views.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 01:01 AM
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Interesting. Never occurred to me that sharing sexual history should stretch back into childhood. Do you think it is relevant?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 12:49 AM
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Whew! That's harsh.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 12:48 AM
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lol. On an intellectual level all that matters is being with a compatible woman. But if I'm honest, there will be a voice inside, maybe not loud, but always there, reminding me of all the others who have been in there. I believe this asymmetrical difference is rooted in our asymmetrical courtship and sexual experience. Men initiate and invest resources to obtain a women, but the value of the "prize" is reduced if other men have already been planting seeds. That's not a RP condemnation. Just what…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 12:45 AM
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Exactly. So rare that I always note anyone who admits to being wrong, as well as note those who fully own their mistakes. The list I have compiled over 20 years is very short. While not conclusive, women (in tech) seem to be slightly more willing to admit their mistakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 12:29 AM
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Kind of ironic in a culture that celebrates diversity that to express individual opinions is an unforgivable sin.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 12:24 AM
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lol. There's something to be said though for individuals willing to be the ass when they genuinely believe in what they are promoting and understand the cost incurred. And I don't mean only those with moral flaws. PC is not always the best guide for being a good person.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 12:18 AM
1

Inspiration could be seen as a euphemism for manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 12:14 AM
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Thanks for that link. I wasn't aware the phenomenon had been studied and had a name. I'm a little surprised that the "Women are Wonderful" bias did not squelch the term from coming into existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 03:29 AM
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I've always thought "equal" was an absurd way to view your romantic partner. It's not unusual for a woman to pair with a man who is taller, stronger, better educated, slightly older, and makes more money. That very woman will profess the importance of being treated as an equal despite this obvious imbalance. To be fair, it's also the norm that the woman will be superior in a number of dimensions, but this only strengthens the argument for why the partners are not "equals". Complimentary is a bet…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 03:26 AM
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I've replaced the bitterness with understanding, I think, and was honestly surprised when I read the link posted by the OP that confirmed this is an actual studied difference between the sexes. I don't think it's fair to blame someone for behaving as nature has programmed them to behave, but the knowledge has given me a bit of an existential crisis about love. I don't dislike women (in many ways I like them more), but I don't believe in romantic love anymore, particularly when children are not i…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 03:04 AM
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I'm okay with it, but the first mover (male or female) has a somewhat awkward task, and of the handful of times women have approached me, only one did it with subtlety. The others came across as predatory, which despite finding one of them physically attractive gave me cold feet and made it awkward to be around them afterwards (what role reversal).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 03:34 AM
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Interesting. I've been dabbling in meditation for a while, but have not see anything warning about the possible dangers. It makes sense that digging into unexplored parts of your mind may lead to discoveries that are harmful if not prepared.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 04:33 PM
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It's like the OP offered a bit of hope to discouraged men and was repaid with vitriol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 02:30 PM
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From the outside my lifestyle resembles MGTOW, but I don't accept its fatalism. There are a great variety of men and women and many ways to structure a relationship. Some couples are able to work. I might find myself in a relationship one day, but I can also find happiness alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 01:25 PM
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I don't follow any of the pill communities, but there is a kernel of truth in that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 05:24 AM
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I've never met a titty I didn't like. That said, big ones can be a little difficult for men to ignore.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 04:11 AM
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Agreed. His writing was often provocative and over-the-top, but he was also witty and insightful. In Defense of Women dishes out a lot of funny criticism to both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 03:27 AM
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Have you got the right Mencken? My Mencken was a complicated character, but he was only married once (Sara Haardt) and continued to promote her writing after her death.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 03:03 AM
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You described the dynamics well, I think. Males, who tend to initiate courtship, seek out someone to accentuate (or accessorize) their lives, and convince the female through promises to improve hers. It's a well-worn relationship path, even if modernity has disrupted it a bit by providing other paths.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 02:48 AM
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Good observation. Women are more socially savvy and probably play out more scenarios than men. Men may fantasize about other women, but women have a more realistic idea of replacement candidates in their social network, I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 10:04 PM
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This topic brought to mind a passage from H. L. Mencken's 1918 book "In Defense of Women": One frequently hears of remarried widowers who continue to moon about their dead first wives, but for a remarried widow to show any such sentimentality would be a nine days' wonder. Once replaced, a dead husband is expunged from the minutes. And so is a dead love. I have been expunged from nearly all of my previous relationships. I don't mean that accusingly, but men and women seem to cope with breakups di…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 09:53 PM
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I agree that modernity may conflict with our primal desires, but let's be honest, most of us would be among the vanquished if society did not prevent one municipality from raiding another. And there are still outlets for that type of masculine conquest: combat sports, military service, or athletics.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 03:17 PM
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Thank you! The context matters though. 20 years ago in the southern part of the US, it wasn't hip to become vegetarian (much less vegan). From her perspective, it was as if I woke up and decided to become a Hare Krishna.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 03:58 PM
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None of those represent the same risk as being maimed or killed. Not exactly the same, but every man is aware of the risk for sneak attack or property damage from the woman, and possibly life-threatening retribution if she were cheating on another man. As penis-driven as men are at times, I don't believe they create families in order to get more sex. Rather, nature has installed several drives for passing on our genes and these sometimes come into conflict. I believe Arnold Schwarzenegger when h…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 01:20 PM
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I began feeling guilty about eating meat. Though I still believe it was the right moral choice, it was an inconvenient time (and unfair from her perspective) to have such a conversion.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 12:55 PM
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Good analogy, but I think you are describing some of the reasons why women are less horny, at least with a stranger. Men, by contrast, regularly risk their careers, family life, and fortunes for a risky fling. Men can be so visually excited that even if the object of their desire were an evil, soul-snatching, demon, some would still not be deterred, and after a couple of beers, it might even be a majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 05:07 AM
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I'm not sure either, but there was a recent simulated competition between agents programmed with different cooperation strategies. Some variation close to "cooperate as long as the other guy cooperates" generally won, and more importantly could become stable in a group. Seems like they should be able to factor in a "nookie" bonus for being particularly cooperative agents to study the impact of sexual selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 01:43 AM
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This is consistent with observations from other species where the male is often burdened by bright coloration or an ornate tail to signal genetic fitness to females (the male must be particularly virile to overcome such burdens). In simulations of altruistic behavior, cooperating too much is detrimental because the other parties may not reciprocate, but that cost may be compensated for the increase in opportunities afforded through sexual selection by the females.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 12:40 AM
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I'd add the software too. While married I began having a moral crisis that caused me to see the world differently. My ex-wife pushed back on the change. And understandably, I had become a different person, same body and brain, but the programming was altered.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 10:15 PM
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being single and relationship-free is a very valid lifestyle choice, and not some illness socially inept people have. Being relationship-free myself, I'm relieved to hear that. But validation doesn't need to come from some pill ideology. I'm not advocating any particular lifestyle choice, but rather suggesting that grievance ideologies, such as modern feminism and red pill theory distort the understanding of their adherents. There are better sources of truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 04:41 AM
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Point taken, but the meetings of recovered alcoholics are about owning the problem, not about identifying a group of people to blame. Whatever mindset one adopts should be therapeutic and positive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 10:32 PM
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What I meant is that viewing people as disposable is monstrous and in doing so you become disposable too. Congratulations on your victory.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 09:55 PM
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. . . most women my age and younger are just disposable sexual objects Dude, really? Regardless of how bad things are or seem to be, can you really justify that? If you want nothing more than sex, go for it, just be man enough not leave a wake of misery.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 04:55 PM
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Utilitarianism is a fine way of making decisions, including relationship decisions. And I'm glad to know you have other pursuits, but the thing you are rejecting seems to weigh heavily on your thinking. What if I told you that I had decided to focus on my career and cut out bowling, but I then joined a society of people dissatisfied about the current state of bowling, one having its own theories and vernacular. Wouldn't you wonder why I seemed to dwell so much on bowling?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 04:28 PM
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I can't argue with that calculus. If you are happier alone than in a relationship, then you have made a rational choice, but it's the justification you give that strikes me as bizarre and disgruntled. I don't mean that to be insulting, it's just that all those labels make it sound like a pseudoscience invented to justify your conclusion. Going your own way can be heroic, but shouldn't it be driven by a vision of what you are moving toward? You might reasonably conclude that current behavioral ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 04:48 AM
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Possibly, but he was describing the origins of the discipline, and he seemed to be taking the credit that rightfully belongs to Wilson, who is one of my heroes. Glad to hear he was mentioned in the book.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 01:04 AM
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My guess is its part of our make up, but its only a smaller part. Going from guess to proof is exactly the problem. Is the penis really evolved to scoop out rival sperm or is the shape just an evolutionary spandrel? There's been some creative experiments to test it. ​ My guess is its part of our make up, but its only a smaller part. I think our size in both breasts and penis (and butts for some women in Africa) may have been due more to sexual selection than direct fitness pressure. I think most…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 11:34 PM
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I was thinking more in terms of theories rather than accusations, but yes, it's the idea that theorizing is easy, but proving is difficult. Don't go to any special trouble on the sexy sons. I'm a bioinformaticist by training and was just trying to remember some relevant things to contribute from evolutionary biology. I listened to a YouTube interview with Buss. When mentioning biologists whose work helped form evolutionary psychology, he never mentioned E. O. Wilson. Wilson is the true founder o…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 11:00 PM
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So saying TRP theory works is equivalent to saying that it gets you more sex? And FDS is the counter-measure for women? I was going to try and change your mind by questioning your definition of success. But if sex is your end-goal, then my argument does not hold.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 09:48 PM
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Mating strategies and sexual specialization are one of the most fascinating parts of biology. Studying it gave me a profound sense of how nature has sculpted us into baby-making machines. There's been speculation about the number of sex partners our ancestral females had. Certainly our sex organs are enormous (this is not a personal boast) when compared to those of other primates, causing some to speculate about an "arms" race that selected for males able to deposit their sperm deeply in the fem…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 09:39 PM
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I honestly never considered those differences or realized that perspective. Thanks for explaining it. But once equipped with Red Pill philosophy, what next? Will you be happier by outwitting another in the "marketplace"? Or perhaps it is a defensive strategy to avoid becoming a "Chad"? Is that the best you can look forward to?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 09:24 PM
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Doesn't Red Pill also have an agenda?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 06:17 PM
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That's one example. It happens whenever your theory (no matter how well it explains a limited set of data) has little validating proof. Are women really programmed to want sexy sons? How would you test it? Is it observed in other animals (not sure if there is a mouse celebrity analog)? What about alternate explanations that fit the data? I've followed evolutionary biology for some time. It suffers from some of the same difficulties, but things get even more speculative when you move into the com…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 04:57 PM
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Nicely put! I recently heard someone say that relationships take an act heroism. We know going in that our spouse may cheat on us, that our business partner could swindle us, or our best friend divulge our secrets, but we take a chance, not because we are naive, but because the risk is worth the reward. An understanding of our evolved tendencies may help us to work through our relationship difficulties. Nature has played a trick on all of us. No one chose to be set down in this drama.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 04:40 PM
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Yeah, if we could somehow subtract out all the vitriol (on both sides) and use the revelations to improve relations rather than "up our game" we'd all be better for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 03:18 PM
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It's a plausible theory, but I also think it is an example of why evolutionary psychology is sometimes accused of telling "just so" stories (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_So_Stories). I looked up Buss. Am interested to hear what he has to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 03:14 PM
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I'll keep those point in mind for when the discussion switches to anthropology. And polygyny is by definition one male with multiple females.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 01:29 PM
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Could you define what you mean by "TRP-related theory works"? Do you mean it gives you the upper hand on the other person? I don't doubt the FDS posts you found, but is the right response to try and out-maneuver perspective mates?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 04:01 AM
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When considering the span of evolved human history (since the time our ancestors migrated from Africa), polygyny has bee a significant factor. The genetic evidence supports this: https://www.livescience.com/47976-more-mothers-in-human-history.html
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 03:36 AM
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Sums it up nicely.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 03:16 AM
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Some of Red Pill ideology resonates with me, as does some of feminism. There are valid points made in both communities, and I empathize with those who have a bitter experience relating to the opposite sex. But neither Red Pill theory nor feminist studies should be considered true academic disciplines. They each have an ideological axe to grind, corrupting their very foundation with bias. The example you listed is described in evolutionary psychology, but why not get it from the source with all i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 03:13 AM
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I think monogamy is a fine lifestyle choice, but the post is specifically about an evolutionary context. Over our evolutionary history, humans have been moderately polygynous. Males may have a deep psychological aversion to being cuckolded, but more often they've had to struggle just to get a mating opportunity due to some males sequestering more than one female.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 02:49 AM
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Relative investment is the important thing. Human females are giving up a much greater percentage of their reproductive capacity. And women are not generally competing for a male, but for a better male. Men are competing just to stay in the gene pool. Each of us has roughly twice as many female ancestors as male ancestors.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 12:47 AM
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Does the book mention the "sexy sons" theory? This was the idea that women would evolve to prefer impregnation by an attractive male, discounting his commitment to child rearing, because her sexy sons would then have increased mating opportunities, and a sexy son could potentially father a great number of children. This would explain the willingness of many women to to have casual sex with athletes and celebrities who would make lousy fathers (aside from contributing those sexy genes). It could …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 10:54 PM
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The female contributes one of her very limited eggs along with the 9 months needed for gestation. Even a good father rarely matches this level of investment, I think, while bad actors (dead beet dads and rapists) contribute nothing at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 10:44 PM
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Even if the punch bowl contained no poop, a snake is still a snake. But there might be less bitching about the poop if everyone remembered that the snakes brought the bowl and filled it with punch in first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 10:06 PM
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There's that too. Instead of being small and weak with a harmless vagina, a dude may overpower you and do awful things with his penis. It's kind a of double-whammy. I get that. But that's why the world can seem more harsh toward men (the ones who aren't doing awful things with their penis).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 09:07 PM
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All women are supposed to want kids? If not, gross? Seems a bit harsh and oversimplified.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 07:20 PM
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Very good point. It's easy to find information extolling the benefits of marriage for men while conveniently neglecting the selection effect at play.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 07:10 PM
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Yup, it's bad to be exploited for sex, but it at least means that you possess something worth exploiting. Those with nothing of value are treated with apathy or enmity.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 07:06 PM
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No, as fantastic as it sounds, it seems to be somehow built into genetics. It was discussed more than 20 years ago when I took genetics in grad school. A baby is a little more likely to a male (it's not 50/50). The thinking is (was) that males are a little less genetically viable, so the numbers equal out after the first few years of life, and that this proportion fluctuates according to some unidentified feedback mechanism to restore the sex balance following a war.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 06:55 PM
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The gynocentric bias in sexual infractions seems obvious to me, but also understandable. While there is a lot of fervor about downplaying the differences between men and women, we all know (on some level) that sex is fundamentally asymmetrical.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 05:30 PM
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Quite possibly. Someone with greater relationship experience may offset an age advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 05:19 PM
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This is an excellent idea. It would benefit the child and solve a majority of paternity disputes without having to explicitly raise the question. Thanks for the interesting link.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 04:29 PM
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There is a theory about female babies being more desirable during harsh times and males being more desirable in times of plenty. The reasoning is that nature would encourage females during times of crisis in order to maintain reproductive capacity. But during times of plenty a male could potentially be a genetic Genghis Khan jackpot.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 05:49 PM
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The word "value" is a bit loaded. From an evolutionary perspective the reproductive dynamics of being male or female differ. Females across the animal kingdom come in all shapes and sizes, but they all share one trait: they are the partner in the reproductive duo having the big gametes. The big gamete partner necessarily has more invested in reproduction, compounded when you factor in gestation. The little gamete partner, in contrast, has less investment, but potentially greater opportunity. ​ S…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 04:27 PM
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There was a study a while back showing that female relatives of gay men had more children. It was theorized that there was a gay gene, and when it was in women, it resulted in women being more horny for men - and therefore having more children. I hadn't heard of this idea. The gene is passed from parents to children where it is expressed as gayness in the males and horniness in the females? The genetics seem problematic since each of the gay man's sisters has only a 50% chance of having the "gay…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 07:06 PM
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Good points. I often seen this difference in male strategies referred to as the "dads vs. the cads". And just as a viable male mating strategy is to inseminate with no commitment to the female, a female might pursue a strategy of being inseminated by a high status "cad", but seek a more committed partner for the long-term. This isn't to fuel the perceived injustices that each side feels towards the other only to point out that selective pressures have predisposed us towards callous behavior. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 05:06 PM
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Good point, but it explains why a male would be disgusted by homosexual activity since evolutionarily it's a dead end. Rationally, males might be expected to be happy about homosexual activity in other males since it could mean they are not competing for females, but disgust occurs at the subconscious level. We put ourselves in the place of the persons we are observing, such as the pain one feels when seeing another in the dentist's chair. And if we observe others engaging in activity we find di…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 11:50 PM
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And I'm obviously talking to a non-scientist. Rarely, do you find complete agreement on any topic in science, only differing degrees of consensus. Good for you that you are reading some of the research. Try writing your own sometime. It's much harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 10:08 PM
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Grand social behavior is not being discussed. The thread is about explaining disgust to male sexuality, a question about a very old, emotionally-driven human reaction. And it's not as though there are a lot of possibilities: nature, nurture, or some combination. You don't have to be an expert in evolutionary biology to know that emotions evolved a long time ago, so the behaviors they mediate are likely to be old as well. And yes, you can factor out individual behaviors from a group, it's done al…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 09:48 PM
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I'm not saying women are any better. You seemed to be saying exactly that when you wrote: It wouldn't be so bad if men cheated like women did.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 08:53 PM
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Agreed, comments made in a chat forum are likely to be a bit breezy. But we can dive into the (substantial) evidence for the biological basis for many social behaviors. A good read on the subject is Steven Pinker's "The Blank Slate", which not only debunks the blank slate idea, but gives examples of how our evolution shapes our behavior. But I suspect you don't want to hear about any of the evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 08:42 PM
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. . . but specifically the way men do it I agree with the general differences in cheating you described, but I'm not sure that women are doing cheating the right way. Isn't "cheating with someone superior" another way of saying "trading up"? And wouldn't it be a bit of a relief to know that your man's fling did not include emotional attachment? When I got married, I asked my spouse not to disclose any "slip ups" unless it involved disease or emotional dissatisfaction with the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 08:23 PM
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Nice to see a comment like this. Thanks for reminding us of how special a relationship can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 08:09 PM
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Marriage would either go away entirely or there would be massive changes like contracts that had to be renewed. My initial thought as well. But I imagine some would become inseparable from their mate. After 500 years of being with the same person, the pair might function more like a single being, almost a new species.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 07:49 PM
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Males initiate sex, and those that do not effectively compete against other males are displaced from the gene pool (you have twice as many female ancestors as male ancestors). Disgust towards another man's sexuality is nature's way of keeping you focused on impregnating females, while keeping away competing males.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 07:42 PM
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ok you don't have proof of that, you have a story that is post-hoc justified In the sense of having done the research myself? No, I don't. But much work has established that infants are not born as blank slates. They arrive primed with an instinctive proclivity towards certain behaviors. Emotional responses, such as disgust, are evidence that behaviors are to some degree hard-wired, particularly when the same behavioral patterns are observed across cultures.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 07:14 PM
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Fear and disgust of male sexuality is a female instinct. What about the disgust directed by males toward homosexual males (common when I was growing up)? And would you not feel a little disgust if your wife/girlfriend admitted to having an affair? And also a sense of relief if she told you that the affair involved another female? Transactional sex is understandable given the human condition. But I'm amazed at the degree to which relationships are non-transactional. Some couples manage, at least …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 06:59 PM
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Society plays a part. It's just that we had a very long time to evolve and these behaviors had to become part of our unconscious instincts in order for males and females to cohabitate. So, rooted in biology, but modulated by culture would be more accurate, I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 06:33 PM
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They should be role-models. There is currently no shortage of humans on planet Earth. And with less market supply, the societal value of motherhood may rise, helping women who do bear children.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 01:52 PM
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It's rooted in biology. Male sexuality is threatening. The penis is invasive and disruptive, while the vagina is passive and life-giving, and males are on continual alert for an opportunity to use their penis, so it's no surprise that we developed behavior to suppress and fear male sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 01:44 PM
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