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The majority men back then simply traded a mule to the woman’s father to get a wife bruh… (I know this not only because of historians but also because that’s what literally happened to both of my grandmas). My grandparents all dated and chose their husbands/wives, so idk where you're from but people weren't really trading mules for wives in the 40s, 50s, and 60s. My own father is still bluepilled and believes that women don’t even like sex or have sexual preferences. That's not the blue pill, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 03:02 AM
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Anecdotal, but I know a son of divorced lesbians who's very good with women. He's really self confident and dresses well and I think that works really well for him. He's engaged now, so he's doing something right.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 11:04 PM
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According to the red pill I shouldn't have left because he was also rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 06:06 PM
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Modern women make decisions with logic, reasoning, and analysis. It's a weird manosphere myth that women aren't logical.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 05:14 AM
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Yep. I no longer wanted to have sex with my boyfriend and lost attraction to him because we were just having endless problems and endless fights. We were together a few years before this happened. He seemed perfect in the beginning. He was a smart and responsible law student looking to settle down. Polite, respectful, good sense of humor, solid friend group, and cute. He was about 7 years older than me. It took about a year for any problems to start. The no-sex lasted a few months while we tried…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 03:51 AM
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Or like better sex ed, easy access to abortion, and improved resources for children of single parents, like mental health care, mentorships, educational opportunities. There's a massive correlation between single motherhood and growing up in poverty. Banning condoms won't stop people that aren't using them to begin with. Especially when many women can't use hormones. The consequences are already steep. Child support is usually really expensive and keeps a lot of men struggling.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 04:08 AM
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Agreed. Both men and women can be selfish and both are responsible for selfish choices that result in the creation of another human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 04:04 AM
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for the sake of other men. *for the sake of their future children. You sayin these men are so selfish they won't wear a rubber for the sake of their future children?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 03:55 AM
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Is anyone forcing the men to take it on the first night? Men wanna sleep with easy women and women become what men want. If every man decided to wait till marriage the entire dynamic would change. Men are ultimately choosing to sleep with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 03:48 AM
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You can put a man in her place and it's still the same thing. You have a cell phone and eat chocolate? You're participating.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 03:29 AM
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Why aren't you shaming the men for being shitty? I'd like to see a lil paragraph from you about how shitty these fuckboys are for irresponsibly fathering kids with shitty women and leaving behind a string of single mothers. How about (as you said) shaming the men for "taking the very thing men used to marry them for?" Like let's shame these men for sleeping with "shitty" women and creating single mothers? Let's shame the men for not using protection and leaving the decision to have the baby to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 03:26 AM
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The same social structures that kept women from having any financial independence? Nah fam.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 03:21 AM
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I think it's a mountain of bad therapists. There are so many cheap online master's degrees out there that do a poor job preparing people, and a lot get a masters in social work which does a sub par job of preparing someone to work as a therapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 02:12 AM
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That just sounds like a horrific therapist. A good therapist should't give dating advice at all. They would work on a root issue, like social anxiety, unresolved trauma, poor self awareness, lack of coping mechanisms, radical acceptance, etc. After good therapy one should have the tools to be able to find the answers to their dating woes. It took me 10 therapists to find a good but when I did it changed my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 12:00 AM
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Good therapy is life-changing regardless of demographics, bad therapy is worse than no therapy. And many therapists' educational backgrounds leave them very poorly qualified to help anyone with anything. That being said, people going into therapy have to go into it ready to do the very very hard work it requires for meaningful change.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 11:57 PM
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I would literally let Henry Cavil murder me if he wanted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 11:53 PM
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Fun fact, Bridget Jones is 140 lbs in the movie, which at the time it was made was considered fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 11:38 PM
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But first, a word from our sponsor, skillshare.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 11:37 PM
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Nah, women, even large and strong women aren't as dangerous and/or not perceived as dangerous so it doesn't effect the "cat-called" the same way. Just how women cat calling women isn't the same thing as men cat calling women. The true equivalent is just men. Same thing women go through. Getting cat called by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 10:18 PM
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I don't get why the cat callers are women. For an accurate comic it should still be men, just older, larger men cat calling the young men as they slide a dry hand down the young man's back.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 06:28 PM
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But usually, there's no way to tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 02:13 AM
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I mean I can't speak to anything about you personally as I do not know you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 01:52 AM
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I don't think someone's weight, physical features like height, or voice has anything to do with being abusive. High functioning narcissists and psychopaths are great at masking. Just because you haven't been in an abusive relationship doesn't make you an expert people reader. Sure, someone that abuses drugs and has crazy eyes is probably not safe. But that's gonna be an outlier. Most abusers look totally normal. A lot of drug addicts and alcoholics do too. You just don't know because you assume …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 11:53 PM
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However, it's also rising independently of that as a control. There's no proof of that. It would be impossible to prove that. As mental health care becomes normalized of course more people are getting diagnosed or are just aware of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 11:30 PM
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No, but you'd date a normal looking women, which is what most abusive women look like.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 11:30 PM
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Ok, break it down for me. What physical traits = abusive and what don't? Because it sounds like you're getting your info from watching too many movies. Chris Brown has tattoos and is abusive. But then Bill Cosby, formally America's dad is abusive. Stephen Collins, also American's dad is a pedophile. Even women. Look at Amber Heard. Anything about her appearance scream abusive psycopath? Most serial killers I've seen were very clean cut guys. Anecdotally, every abusive person I've known has looke…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 10:58 PM
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And people wonder why women get into trouble more often. They don't lol. Male victims of DV aren't taken as seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 10:57 PM
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Idk how men on PPD seem to think normal looking guys can't be abusive. The one abusive boyfriend I had was a nerd that went to law school. Clean cut has nothing to do with if someone is abusive. Look at the rates of domestic violence among cops. Or search it by profession. Someone's appearance will tell you nothing about whether they are going to be abusive. That being said, men date toxic women just as much as women date toxic men. We're all pretty equally oblivious.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 10:08 PM
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If you're good with you, great! Every single human has to deal with outside forces trying to influence them, and that sucks. But I agree that if you're good with who you are changing solely to please someone else would be inauthentic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 08:20 PM
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This literally proves my point that is what people think attractive men are. Yes. Though you don't need to prove that point because I am not disagreeing with you about what people think attractive men are. I'm agreeing with you. I am saying everyone already knows what attractive men are. It's not a revelation to anyone. That's where I'm disagreeing with you: that it's a revelation to the general public. It's not. Everyone knows. Everyone knows how hard it is to date for men that are minorities, …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 08:11 PM
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Improving your social skills doesn't mean being inauthentic either, and the two should not be conflated. If one has social anxiety leading to shyness the social anxiety can be improved and the shyness will decrease. Things like being "interesting" is totally subjective, but being a good conversationalist, for example, is a skill like anything else and can be practiced and improved on. Social skills are skills. Now if you said your favorite color was red when it's really blue, that's being inauth…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 08:07 PM
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You can be authentic and improve yourself. You don't have to, of course. But then you deal with the consequences. But self improvement isn't inauthentic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 07:49 PM
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I'm not talking about my personal preferences. Were you? Do you like to date tall, white, rich men? That's great. Everyone can have whatever preferences they want. I hope you find the man of your dreams.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 06:27 PM
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but it largely stems from expectations, behaviours, and experiences deriving from it (modern social models). Or, anxiety and depression are more widely diagnosed now than in the past. Female "hysteria" has always existed. The feminist mystique was written in 63, the peak of the stay-at-home mom era. The actual facts are that we have too little data to determine how much anxiety and depression existed in history since no one was documenting or diagnosing it. Anecdotally, I've found speaking to ol…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 05:43 PM
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People are racist. Another non-revelation for everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 12:20 PM
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This is what I don't get. "Blue pillers" or normal people know attractive people are attractive. Why do men on PPD act like people don't know that hot and rich people are attractive. I've literally never met a single human that isn't aware of this fact of life. You have to live under a rock to not realize being hot and rich gets you dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 05:21 AM
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Ah yes, the credible "chive." Good thing this can't be faked for clicks. It's also in the humor section so...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 05:19 AM
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Saying "hi" hardly makes someone not traditional.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 02:49 AM
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The more attractive you are in comparison to her the less likely she is to cheat. I don't think that's true, but I agree with the first part. Even if you're super hot if she's no longer into you and is a cheater, she's gonna cheat. And that can be for reason outside of how you look, like you don't do what she wants, pay attention to her, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 08:27 PM
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Sure, but that's kinda besides the point of this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 08:16 PM
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If she already bagged a good looking guy once, why not again? Clearly "you" went for her for whatever reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 08:03 PM
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Sure she is. Let's say she find someone better looking or richer.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 07:54 PM
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Women are also capable of cheating, (and cheat at rates nearly as high as men) and men are very capable of being afraid that their hot girlfriend will cheat on them. Men that are insecure, like women that are insecure, are going to fear their partner cheating. Women can and do have nonchalant attitudes towards relationships with men they aren't very attracted to. This is silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 07:08 PM
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But the reality is that those people are looking for excuses and very likely won’t accept offers for therapy. That's on them then.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 05:37 PM
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I mean if they actually are mentally ill then they are. They're just wrong about the diagnosis. You can't say people that are mentally ill aren't mentally ill when they are mentally ill.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 12:24 PM
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I've thought guys on tinder were not attractive, them met them in person and found them very attractive. Some people aren't photogenic or don't know how to take good pictures.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 08:51 AM
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It's just facts. Facts are neutral. I'm not discussing a solution. But, the solution is good mental health help/therapy to build self awareness and self-empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 04:07 AM
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I thought personality is what attracted women, Good looks attract women. Personality is secondary to that. now they’re shacking up with men with personality disorders? People with personality disorders like "dark triad" which are just disorders of low empathy/narcissism/psychopathy/ cluster B are not attractive, but people with those disorders don't make it obvious that they have them. They portray themselves as just normal, charming, confident people if they are good. If they are bad at pretend…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 04:06 AM
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It's not about morality. It's just meant to be factual. Low self awareness and/or self victimization just is a mental health problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 03:59 AM
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Using mental health as an excuse/lack of personal responsibility is still a mental health issue. It means the person in question lacks self awareness and is in denial or is narcissistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 03:24 AM
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No, when traits like empathy start to matter. People with antisocial personalist disorder will mimic emotions and empathy until they have control over their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 02:32 AM
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They are only attractive superficially. They stop being attractive when you're in a relationship with said man and they show you no empathy. In reality the traits that are attractive are emotional control and confidence, with present similarly to the dark triad stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 10:02 PM
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It's just a really sad trend on tik tok to do that. Obviously those things are not the bare minimum. They are nice gifts, and a nice, normal woman/man will appreciate the effort. Tiktok is mostly young people, and it takes a certain kind of person to comment that. They're just a vocal, entitled minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 07:37 PM
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No, explain it to me. What is a soul?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 07:55 AM
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What's a soul?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 07:33 AM
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All of that is incorrect. I also feel like you didn't actually read what I wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 07:13 AM
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Nothing about feminist says women can't like masculine men?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 06:47 AM
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I feel like there's a lot of projection going on. Having safe, consensual sex for physical pleasure won't cause any damage. It's all about the mindset of the people involved. Sure, lots of people hook up for the wrong reasons. And if people are hooking up for the wrong reasons, like to cope with emotions/trauma, then sure, it's bad. But same can be said for anything. Being in long term relationships for the wrong reasons can be bad just as well. Sex with a husband or wife can lead be traumatic t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 06:45 AM
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Unfortunately a lot of people take it way too seriously, and it does have a negative impact on impressionable boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 10:40 PM
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Men do this too. Every single person wants to be with the best they can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 07:44 PM
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This is true for men too. Women abuse and assault men too. Men also abuse and assault men. Shall we just all isolate ourselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 05:03 AM
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They want both. Most men aren't paying women to hang out.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 12:22 PM
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That's usually only in movies. 99% of sugar babies are sex workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 08:17 AM
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Women will be seen as one or the other. It doesn’t matter how she views herself. If a 2007 beat up Honda was selling for 100k, would you buy it? I didn’t think so. Except that analogy doesn't work. You're just looking at two of the same car, one car has had one owner in 20 years, the other has had 20 owners in 20 years. but they look and drive the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 05:15 AM
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Of course you're disinterested in hearing anything that doesn't agree with what you're saying. It might mean that you're wrong, and that couldn't possibly be the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 01:16 AM
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Again, having "someone" does not equal "a happy love life." A lot of people can find "someone." And there are lots of disabilities that preclude people from dating completely. I'm glad you were lucky enough to "get over" abuse, but that's not something everyone can do. It sounds like you're lacking empathy for what other people may deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 12:27 AM
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Right. It's no one's fault. That being said, people can't "get over" things like disability or abuse, or unexpected life-ruining events. Again being able to date someone does not equal a good love life. There are lots of people who do not have a good love life, and it isn't their fault...or anyone else's. Life isn't fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 11:13 PM
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If you're looking for a scenario that your love life sucks that's not your fault, it doesn't exist. This is such a naive view. Physical or mental illness, poverty, abusive relationships, family issues, ugliness. It's easier to think everything boils down to personal responsibility because it gives people a sense of control over their lives, and makes it easy to "blame" others for things they can't control. Being able to date some random person does not equal a good love life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 10:47 PM
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Weight loss/gain, exercise, fashion, makeup, therapy are all common things women do for "self improvement."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 09:34 PM
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It's just escorting but with a "girlfriend experience." It's still sex work.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 09:32 PM
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I agree with a lot of the red pill, but stop when it comes to woman hating. Women are just people, no better or worse than men. Anyone that thinks women are worse than men are blinded by resentment. But I agree men's issues get ignored, men have it harder in dating, and dating is mostly about looks and confidence, not being a nice person.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 12:43 AM
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I think people are not meat to be in lifelong sexually exclusive relationships, but in long term relationships, meaning 2-8 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 10:55 PM
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99% of the time women aren't rude to men because of fear.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 08:39 PM
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Attractive women don't exist. They're all actually 3 raccoons in a trench coat.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 07:17 AM
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I have a massive crush on Zelenskyy. That picture does't do him justice.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 04:17 AM
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Correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 01:28 AM
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This is how society has been since the beginning of time. It's how it is. No one gets points for not doing bad things.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 09:58 PM
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I think from this thread we've all learned not to take anecdotal experiences and believe that they are universal truths. It's not that men want sex and women want relationships...it's that the women you have sex with want relationships with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 08:08 PM
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Summer told Tom she didn't want a relationship and he ignored that. He saw her as who he wanted to see not as who she was. We never really got to know Summer because we only saw her through Tom's eyes. Just snippets of a person he never attempted to fully understand. They are both two normal, flawed people. At the end of the day, they were both old enough to be responsible for their own choices, and Summer is not responsible for Tom catching feelings, as you suggest. He knew she didn't want anyt…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 02:41 AM
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Yes it is common. "Be yourself" is the dating advice you get from people that don't care about giving genuine advice b/c they don't wanna hurt feelings. I would not consider that advice but a dismissal. The most common dating advice I've gotten from male friends is "I don't know," or a dismissal. Most people get upset when they're told they look bad. I see it on reddit too (outside of PPD). People get very defensive or sad when their flaws/insecurities are pointed out, so people are reluctant to…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 09:12 PM
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The people that don't agree with the red pill aren't disagreeing with it because it doesn't offer advice. It's all the other stuff that's the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 08:15 PM
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The red pill has plenty of good very common advice. That's not the issue people have with the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 06:35 PM
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To add to this, what people look like on the outside is rarely a representation of reality. People do a lot to look like a "happy family," and hide abusive and toxic behaviors. Even seemingly normal families can raise superficial, self-absorbed narcissists, while families that struggled can raise empathetic, confident, and self aware kids. The best way to find an emotionally healthy partner is to get to know them and how they think. Are they empathetic? Are they self-aware? Do they take responsi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 12:07 AM
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Napoleon went from a 5 to a 10/10 after that dance.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 07:36 PM
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I don't think women want a guy that engages in drunken bar fights, but a guy that does boxing or MMA or whatever as a hobby is hot. Muscles from lifting things are cool. Muscles from a skill like fighting, or some other sport, is very attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 06:49 PM
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I think those men don't see themselves as removed from the conversation
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 06:46 PM
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If people weren't controlling their instincts there would be a lot more raping, pillaging, and murder.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 07:21 AM
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I don't think it brings out the worst, I think it brings out their authentic self. I like the unfiltered honesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 07:19 AM
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And angry.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 09:44 PM
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Everyone. All 6 billion adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 09:41 PM
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Men are hornier because of testosterone. My doctor's office offers testosterone therapy for women for this very reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 07:12 PM
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Not for everyone the moment they turn 25 I don't think anyone actually believes that. I think the point people are trying to make is some older people pursue younger people primarily because they are easier to manipulate and lack experience, which can lead to these younger folks ending up in bad/controlling relationships. And this certainly does happen irl. And it's usually about 18/19/20 years olds.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 04:36 PM
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According to your own article it is not a myth. It doesn't dispute that the prefrontal cortex finishes developing for a lot of people around 25, but that other parts of the brain continue to develop, and that there is variance among people with the development of various areas of the brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:08 PM
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Sad that people claim to want equality, and yet men have to initiate and pay. Doesn't seem very equal to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 07:45 AM
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Haha I don't think so. I think people are well aware. I think people underestimate female aggression more than anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 02:21 AM
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Why do men have to invest in women first?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 02:12 AM
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I think this is true with girls too, just minus physical fighting. Girls will for sure be mean to pretty girls out of jealousy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 02:07 AM
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Unless it's religious and the guy is also a virgin, same.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 09:12 PM
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Ego and control. Virgins are generally young and inexperienced. It feeds their ego to think the virgin hasn't been with anyone else and makes them feel special, and young, inexperienced girls are easier to control and impress. There's a lot of rhetoric in the manosphere about "molding" young girls into whatever the men want them to be. But everyone is welcome to their own preferences. Women are welcome to go for old rich men for the money, men are welcome to go for young virgins to feel special.…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 09:06 PM
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Nah, men 100% want a woman wanted by other men...they just also want that women to only want him. Same for women. Women want a man that is wanted by other women....but that man only wants her. At it's core it's about "getting" someone desirable, because desirability means they have something special to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 08:58 PM
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Interesting response
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 08:04 PM
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Civilization is pretty incredible all things considered. That being said, if we look at those early human reproduction stats, only the top 20%-ish of men got to reproduce back then too. Then men took control of women and got them to reproduce with dudes they wouldn't have naturally gone for. I think it's natural for women to be selective and men to wanna spread DNA as much as possible. So if every man gets ripped and develops amazing social skills, it's still gonna be the top 20% that are attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 07:59 PM
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Ok, why is that song so good tho
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 07:55 PM
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During world wars, do you think men at the battlefield were depressed that they aren't good-looking to attract chicks and all that bullshit. No, but that's because they were trying to not die. And we can all agree that this is bad. Humans should be worried about stuff like getting chicks! Not about killing other people/not dying and getting PTSD/watching your friends die and country destroyed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 07:34 PM
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I don't have anything against only fans. I don't have anything against people that use only fans. I do not want to date someone that pays for only fans, the same way that I don't want to date someone that lives on a sailboat or owns a dog. Incompatible. Not wanting something does not mean I have something against it. You can't say let's disregard definitions when at this point the difference in how we're defining the phrase is the root of the disagreement. I'm pretty sure you don't wanna define …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 03:46 PM
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I read it. You did not define it anywhere. You ask me why I don't want to date someone using OF. You agree with my 99 year old man example. I don't see a definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 03:13 PM
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This literally is the point of disagreement. Either we're defining it differently, hence the disagreement, or you two are wrong. Which is why we need to define the phrase.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 03:08 PM
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I don't see a definition of "have something against it" in your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 03:06 PM
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You can't ask me to define something and say that my definition isn't true. I won't. What's your definition?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 03:03 PM
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That crosses a personal boundary = you have something against it. Not true. Please define what it means to "have something against it."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 02:57 PM
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But at 25 the prefrontal cortex is done, so that wouldn't apply.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 02:55 PM
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A while
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 07:16 AM
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Multiple women said you're a predator for going for 25 year old women? I don't believe that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 07:00 AM
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If you look like Chris Pratt why wouldn't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 06:24 AM
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No, I think qualification can go beyond the ability to grind/put in hours. For example, we need more male teachers, and there is evidence that having all female teachers are having a negative impact on young boys. In the case of two qualified candidates for a teaching position, it might make sense to pick the man even if he's slightly less experienced or has a worse academic record or whatnot (but still able to do a good job) over the female candidate.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 05:18 AM
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I will say I agree with this for some industries, but many jobs benefit from representation and diversity, like doctors, teachers and politicians. I think when diversity or other qualities that aren't related to being able to work long hours or compete are important to the job it's better to judge candidates on more than how many hours they're willing to grind and how aggressively they'll fight to get to the top.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 03:57 AM
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I love how Chris Pratt is an option both times.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 03:51 AM
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Generally, everyone treats you better when you're better looking, your family, strangers, friends, etc. It's probably happening on a subconscious level. I've noticed it with weight gain/loss after being really sick for a while. Everyone treats you better. When you're significantly better looking than average, you live in a different world. People are nicer, more opportunities, if you present yourself just the right way you're assumed smarter too, the difference is wild compared to being below av…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 12:09 AM
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The sample size of that study is tiny, with twice as many men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 04:58 AM
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I don't think the privilege of being good looking improves personality because personality is more complex than how nice people are to you....but it does effect how one's personality is perceived. Flaws are more easily forgiven, more chances are gives, more opportunities, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 03:48 AM
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Until then I have no way of knowing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 10:25 PM
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The guy I'm thinking of was nice/normal, just didn't click well with me. Different values/outlooks on life/interests etc. Wouldn't have worked for a relationship. But he was fine to chat with/hang out and was good looking. Just not someone I'd wanna "be with."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 09:33 PM
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The hotter you are, the more places it is acceptable to approach woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 09:30 PM
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We're not even talking about physical therapy. That being said, therapy takes a long time. I don't think you know how it works, friend. Here's a link for ya:https://mhanational.org/science-behind-therapy
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 06:28 PM
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Is pop songs the evidence you're going with here?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 06:27 PM
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I feel like imma blow your mind when I say women are aware that fuckboys are fuckboys. If a woman is looking for casual fun, it's all good. Women are usually aware of what's happening when "chad" asks for her number at the bar. They aren't thinking, wow he can just sense my amazing personality. They're also aware that the flings with chads/fuckboys are just flings. Sure, there are gonna be exceptions/women that don't pick up on it, but most women are well aware. All that being said, everything y…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 05:38 PM
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People are what they are because of feedback from the world if everyone tells you you are beautiful and want to share their bed with you you are going to become a bit of a monster if you are not careful. This is only true in the movies. If you meet guys irl that sleep around...most are nice, normal guys not "monsters."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 05:21 PM
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I don't think looks have much effect on how good a person ends up being. I think if you average it out, it's all the just about same. Most qualities we deem "bad" like narcissism, for example, stem from things like emotional neglect in childhood, not looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 04:55 PM
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Got any proof of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 04:45 PM
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I'm gathering you're one of those people that believes in the myth ugly dudes treat women better than "chads" or something. They don't. Fewer options does not equal to treats women better. Just how hot woman does not equal treats men better. If girls wanna get "masturbated into" by chads as you say, they might as well "masturbate with" a chad and have a good time than chad's worse-looking counterpart. Mutual masturbation with a hot guy. Sounds like a good time. Idk why anyone is upset about this…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 04:22 PM
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I don't want to force people to do anything Ok, so you are fine with women dating up? Great.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 04:14 PM
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In the exception when someone does settle its normally a man settling for a woman. Ok. So you, like OP, want women to start dating uglier men? Neither of you will tell me why should they?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 03:54 PM
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Men are more likely to settle Ah. Back to my original point then. Why would women date down? Why would women let ugly men "use" them when they can hook up with hot ones?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 03:39 PM
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OP: High value men will have sex with them but won't date them. Also OP: Girls date up/couples I observe men are dating down. You see how OP contradicted himself?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 03:29 PM
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Do you think all women in relationships with good looking men are getting "used"? Are you suggesting they should start letting ugly men "use" them instead of hot men?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 03:20 PM
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I thought we were talking about real life
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 03:16 PM
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Using the tools you learn in therapy is what builds new neural pathways. So does improving self awareness. Physical therapy can also create new neural pathways. So can giving birth, going through trauma, etc. I recommend you google this, or read up on the subject. The Brain that Changes Itself is a great book to dip your toes into understanding a little basic neurology and it touches on how therapy builds neural pathways and remaps the brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 07:26 AM
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Therapy can't "fix" autism. It can help autistic individuals with social anxiety and/or other issues. Autism itself isn't something that needs to be fixed. Yes, therapy is about remapping the brain. That's how people change/improve/heal. New neural connections are formed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 06:39 AM
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Yes. I did not love him. He was cute and nice, we had a good time, and I was the one that ended things. There really wasn't anything to "get over."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 04:26 AM
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If you help someone move you can't be friends? I helped my female friend move, are we not friends now? Huh.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 04:25 AM
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Women have post nut clarity too. Idk who started the myth that this is a uniquely male thing. It isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 04:21 AM
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Yes. Nothing to do with cheating, just didn't like their personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 04:20 AM
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If they are "dating up" why would they start "dating down"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 04:19 AM
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Are you disagreeing with yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 04:18 AM
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Therapy with a therapist/psychologist that specializes in autism can actually be tremendously helpful for autistic individuals. Therapy isn't "talking about it." That isn't helpful. At its core therapy is about remapping the brain and creating new neural connections. Our brains are incredibly plastic, and this is also true for individuals with autism, despite the fact that an autistic person's brain has aberrant neuroplasticity. On the surface this happens by getting to the root of the issue and…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 02:20 AM
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The sad truth is unless you are an attractive man or women you will never be lusted over. That's just biology. Most people have to bring something to the table besides looks, and relationships will be much more transactional. Doesn't mean people can't be happy with that or fall in love, it just won't be passionate lust beautiful people get to experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 10:37 PM
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A good therapist will teach the angry person how they can calm themselves down on their own, and will work with them to address the root causes of angry outbursts to where the client will learn to manage emotions and no longer have episodes of anger they need to control.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 09:34 PM
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That is not what CBT is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 04:57 PM
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If a therapist ever does that, that is a bad therapist. I doubt most therapists are completely incompetent, but it may take time to find a therapist that is a good fit. Same as finding a good doctor. Social anxiety comes from deep rooted issues within oneself, and one would have to embark on a long process to work on those issues and heal. The advice should never be just do it, and I don't believe most qualified therapists would give that advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 08:49 AM
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18 and still in High School? Problematic for obvious reasons. 18/19 and out of high school? Go for it, though a good chunk will lack life experience/maturity/awareness and it's not in their best interest to date older people, this goes for guys with older women too. But like 20-ish+ have at it. They're gonna be mature enough to know what's up. Will they want a 30+ man? Probably not if you're not a millionaire, really hot, or a celebrity.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 07:37 AM
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This is what therapy is for. A good therapist is life changing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 07:29 AM
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Women from poor countries are willing to play the trad role for a greencard/citizenship/better life yes. They know what American men are looking for when they're looking for wives in Thailand and the Philippines. Or you can believe that it's all genuine, which means that young men from poor countries just love older white american women and are super attracted to them because of their values and culture and whatnot. There are conservative women in every country, and most are gonna be looking for…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 04:46 AM
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If it was only that easy
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 03:26 AM
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Define "have something against it"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 09:12 PM
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No I don't. In fact, I think it's great. It's ethical and supports sex workers directly. But if you want to make things up and believe them to be facts, nothing I can do about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 08:04 PM
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I would't date a man that was 99 years old man, yet I don't have anything against 99 year old men. Would you date a 99 year old man? If not, does that mean you have something against 99 year old men? I wouldn't date someone with a dog. I'm allergic to dogs. Idk why you think that means I have something against dogs. I like dogs. I just can't live with one. If you're allergic to an animal, do you feel like you have something against it? I wouldn't date someone that lives in a foreign country beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 07:06 PM
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Nope. Do you have something against everyone that you wouldn't date? That's weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 04:40 PM
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Is anyone actually on only fans for ethical reasons? I'm pretty sure that's the last thing on most people's minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 03:09 AM
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No. Nothing against it, just not my type of guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 03:07 AM
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I mean it's literally personal so of course they take it personally. It's literally the man saying he thinks you might have cheated. That's personal. I'm not even against mandatory paternity testing, but asking your partner for one is the same as saying I wanna make sure you didn't cheat. If they didn't that's gonna be hurtful to a lot of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 10:21 PM
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Yeah anyone who likes being a prostitute has a screw lose In your opinion. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 09:07 PM
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I don't think you read my comment fully. Explained why there is a bias. But as the very first sentence I wrote says, as long as everyone is a consenting adult, have at it. I never said anything about "all men" or assuming all men are sleeping with victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 09:05 PM
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That's not how many people feel, including many of the sex workers themselves. It's just selling a service, and many sex workers like what they do and their dignity is no worse off than anyone else that works a job and sells their time/mind/body for a paycheck. Of course, you can dislike it/not participate/are entitled to feel however you feel. Just know that others, including sex workers themselves don't share your sentiments.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 08:25 PM
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terms of outright prostitution women definitely are the victims Not really. Sex work is work, and if a woman is willingly and freely working as a sex worker and is of age she's not a victim. It's just a job. Nothing wrong with anyone seeing a sex worker as long as they are of age, freely choosing what they do, and as long as they are treated with respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 07:34 PM
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As long as everyone is a freely consenting adult, have at it, man or woman. If there is any coercion happening then it's obviously wrong. But...I will say I think the bias against male sex tourism happens because it's primarily men that do seek out children/trafficking victims, and trafficking is still a massive issue. It's also not always obvious to customers when women in brothels/on the street/wherever they work are victims especially if they are of age. I think it's clear the middle aged wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 07:26 PM
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Look at Chris Hemsworth's wife or George Clooney's wife or any celebrity. Some marry hot young models, some marry hot smart career women, some marry average normal women. They're all different.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 07:30 AM
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Most people don't do that now. But throughout history, absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 11:16 PM
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It's far more sinister than what you are suggesting, but still, even if it's just that which you said, isn't that a catastrophic issue in itself? What happens to old people that society can't sustain? They'll rely on family or have worse living conditions. The earth literally can't sustain the way we live. Something will give. A few generations of old people might have to have to go without the social services we have now. This is literally the only consequence of the population not growing. If …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 06:40 PM
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Absolutely! Men are just much more forgiving of women without social skills than women are of men without social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 06:36 PM
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I don't think all women will stop having children all together. Demographic crisis just means we can't pay for all the old people. That's it. We just hit a global population record high. Humanity is fine. It's not progressivism that is the problem, it's capitalism and technology. You can be conservative and have all the same issues we have now. Humanity can get smaller. I see no issue with a couple billion fewer people on earth hundreds of years from now.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 06:20 AM
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They worked in a lot more than department stores. But you're not wrong that finding a husband was probably a priority for many women. Doesn't change that they worked.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 05:32 AM
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I'm talking about the patriarchal system where leadership and power in society is held by men. That's different. And yes, power is no longer held by men in the west, which has changed how and why men and women enter relationships. But women having power is not what is "ruining society." A big part of the issues with society is the expectation to work long hours, the low pay and high cost of living, and the lack of community. We've gone from people living in small/tight knit communities to the nu…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 05:18 AM
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Yep. So women have participated in the workforce for most of history.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 05:06 AM
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Nope women have definitely not always participated in all of those things lol. Maybe not all at the same time. But tell me, when in history have women not worked?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 04:34 AM
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I don't mean social status/power like celebrities have, I mean standard social skills. Being able to confidently converse with a wide variety of people, being comfortable in social situations, showing empathy/reacting appropriately in social situations, things like that. Being super awkward and inappropriate will definitely prevent the average person from getting dates. If that person has other things going for them, like they are good looking and rich, it will worsen the quality/quantity of con…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 04:32 AM
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Women have always participated in the workforce. Domestic labor, factory work, farm labor, education, administrative work, healthcare, etc. They're just getting paid the same as men now/not barred from high paying jobs. The issue isn't that women have equality in the workplace, the issue is that no one can survive on a single salary. That's not feminism's fault, that's politics/corruption/corporations/banks taking advantage of people....which is the way it's always been. It's the same shit in a …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 04:23 AM
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Everyone is different, and what works for one person won't work for someone else. There are no one-size-fits-all roles based on gender. If traditional works for you, great. If not, great. I personally would never do traditional gender roles because I value financial independence and don't want to get stuck in a bad situation. I would also feel under-stimulated as a full time caretaker. But that's just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 04:17 AM
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Social skills won't get you dates, but not having social skills will prevent you from getting dates. Just how showering won't get you dates, but not showering will prevent you from getting dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 04:15 AM
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Everyone wants to have romantic love, and it's important to be loved, but no one deserves love except for children from parents/primary caregivers. One can empathize with someone that doesn't have love, but it doesn't mean they deserve another human having romantic feelings for them. Just how no one deserves another person's time, no one deserves another person's body, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 09:26 PM
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It's more of a joke than anything else. Book boyfriend characters are all different, but usually good looking and charming (though plenty are neither, think Rochester or Darcey), but the appeal always goes beyond that. They usually connect with the protagonist on a deep level, and what that looks like is gonna vary from protagonist to protagonist. In the end, it's all about the guy's emotional connection with the protagonist and the buildup. He can be strong and attractive, or stubborn and avera…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 06:02 PM
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Idk what that has to do with what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 02:40 AM
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It's a myth that only top men use women. It's something men do regardless of how they look. Same with women. Just because a woman isn't beautiful doesn't mean she's a good person.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 01:57 AM
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It's not about having an advocate. You have to have medical evidence of a disability and proof that you tried all available treatments and it didn't work. Lots of people get denied, even legitimately disabled people. It's a shame you know people that managed to cheat the system, but that's not easy to do now a days.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 01:25 PM
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You can't just get "welfare." You can only get food stamps or apply for disability. You would have to be disabled to get disability. Welfare is only for people raising children.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 07:35 AM
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Yes. He was very good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 07:33 AM
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Lesbians have the least sex, on average, of all.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 12:39 AM
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So even that is a total lie from your post. Best meaning best looking/having most resources/confident/desirable. The difference in sex drive is testosterone. It's literally supported by a slew of studies and evidence. Even with consistent sex women overall have lower sex drives. Again, I don't know why that's a problem, or why people can't accept that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 09:27 PM
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This is silly. Women cannot have sex for hours. If you've ever tried you'd know that is quite painful, especially to do often. A lot of women can't have multiple orgasms. Female sex drive is on average lower than male sex drive because of testosterone. Pregnancy is always a risk without contraception. Women see many men as "low quality" because of biology. Because they are wired to want to reproduce with the best possible mate, where as men are wired to wanna spread DNA everywhere. You've comple…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 08:46 PM
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I'm 5'2'' I'll take him!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 04:51 PM
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This isn't limited to men. This is true for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 05:27 AM
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You literally claimed women are treated better in Morocco than the US. A country where marital rape is legal and abortion in much more limited than the US despite our shit laws. In Morocco women can't even inherit wealth equally. And theres tons of discrimination against women in various industries/jobs. You just either don't know anything about Morocco or think men should have more rights than women. I'm fine with admitting that there are lots of countries better than the US and lots of other c…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 03:22 AM
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I'm not trying to play a game. I'm also not trying to say the US or the west is better or that it's good. I'm saying it all sucks, and saying that muslim countries are better isn't true. I hate what's going on in the west, and I'm well aware of all the shit the west has done, and all the shit the mid east has done. Everyone sucks in their own ways, but don't try and tell me it's better for women in Morocco or in muslim countries. It isn't. That doesn't mean the west doesn't suck or hasn't done h…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 02:36 AM
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Sure, treat each other well. We all can agree that people need to treat each other better.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 02:32 AM
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I'm not saying the abortion thing isn't awful or that the US is a perfect mecca of equality. The US sucks. I'm saying muslim countries treat women horribly. It's all shit. I could go into all the sexism in morocco just how I could go into all the sexism and other shit in the US. It all sucks. So for you to say women are treated better in Morocco or any muslim country is a load of bollocks. The article you provided is literally about how the woman changed the marital rape law btw so it doesn't he…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 02:23 AM
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Based (this literally can’t be sexist. It takes two to tango) No it's not sexist, it's just awful. How do you feel about marital rape being legal in Morocco? And why just Morocco? Let's look at what's going on in Iran, SA, Qatar, Afghanistan, UAE....cmon.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 02:00 AM
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Sex before marriage is literally illegal in Morocco. So is kissing in public. And so is marital rape. The abortion thing in the US is fucked and we're fighting to fix that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 01:56 AM
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I'm sorry but women are treated horribly in muslim countries. Instead of seeing women as someone's daughter or sister they should be just seen as a fellow human that deserves respect. People in general should treat other people, men and women with basic respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 01:54 AM
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Nah, it's a conscious choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 01:50 AM
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The one fact to add in to my example is that the more houses she looks at, the better a perfect house gets. By 25 she might want a $1m home, by 30 it's a $2m home, despite her depreciating assets. Exactly. She knows about the depreciating assets, but would rather live with mom and dad than in anything less than a $2m home.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 10:40 PM
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But it all stems from assuming that there isn't a shelf life to attract a quality man. Who cares if you say I know they like me when I'm younger for sex. Women know. Quality men (according to women) are scarce and not interested in "average" women for long term relationships. The top 20% of men aren't marrying plain Jane. Average women don't wanna settle because even average women want that top 20%. They don't want the "guys they could have got." You're saying if women knew they would all settle…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 09:41 PM
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In other words, they thought the attention would last. No they don't. No one thinks they're gonna be getting hit on at 65. Everyone knows men like hot 21 year olds. Women know. They are just choosing not to settle. I'm sure some women wished they did settle, and I'm sure some are happy with their choice not to. But they know. If anything you can argue women are too picky in their youth, but it's not because they aren't aware that men like pretty, young women. It's because they're holding out for…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 07:40 PM
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What dating advice from what girls? I've never heard a girl say they want someone ugly, awkward, and poor. All I ever hear from girls is they want a nice, cute, confident guy with a good job.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 07:16 PM
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Or they decided to focus on their career and not get married or have kids? Most women know they can get a husband. Most don't want to just marry anyone and choose to either hold out for someone great or be single. That has nothing to do with knowing that looks matter to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 06:55 PM
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I think one of the great lessons women learn as that all the attention they receive from their late teens to thirty was not due to their sassy personality, or their humor, or their intelligence or career and all the things they think make them special. I'm 100% sure most women know it's their looks. I've known my whole life, and so have the women in my life. Women know. It's hard not to when men approach you starting at age 12 and compliment your appearance. We know the prettiest girls get the m…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 06:06 PM
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A woman does know what a woman wants. They want a good looking, charming man. If I turned into a man tomorrow and I was neither I know I couldn't get girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 06:02 PM
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I can't wait for the moment when people realize that people are people regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 04:38 PM
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Good to great.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 02:45 AM
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With how many people with kids get divorced now, I don't think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 01:57 AM
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I think OP's question isn't really about the realities of divorce etc, but more about would you stay loyal to your existing partner or separate. And it's not just about sex, it's leaving your partner for your dream person and having a relationship with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 01:09 AM
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Regardless of what people here say, the honest answer for most men is yes. It's yes for women too. If her husband is no longer good looking and not very interested in sex, and her young, hot, passionate, dream man pursued her for a serious, committed relationship (not like a one night stand)....she'd go if she felt confident dream guy wouldn't leave her. Hormones are a hell of a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 11:48 PM
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If you're only bettering yourself to live up to other people's standards you're going to end up resentful, bitter, and tired. Better yourself for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 03:00 AM
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A woman's brain isn't developed till 25. A man's brain is done developing well before 40. The gap is a few years not decades. Also, daddy issues/abandonment issues is something that effects younger people at higher rates because they aren't done developing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 10:39 PM
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Of all of those 20 and 40 is the one doomed to fail. Once her brain finishes developing she's not gonna wanna be with a mid-40s guy unless he's a billionaire or celebrity.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 08:26 PM
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After seeing PPD men rate actual models and actresses 6's and 7's I'm not so sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 07:51 PM
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I don't think they're all gold diggers at all, I'm sure they hope to find an American and fall in love and immigrate and have a better life. Again, nothing wrong with it, but I'm sure local men are perfectly lovely, and they're close by and share their culture and native language. Dating someone overseas is hard. Immigration is hard. The appeal of being with an American is living in America. Thats why these women are willing to leave behind home, family, culture, and are "swiping right" on Ameri…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 01:32 AM
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They prefer foreign men and I foreign women? Why do these women prefer foreign men? What about someone like you is different from the kind of man they can find locally? Do you think American men are better than men from other countries? When Indian men send DMs to white women they are not usually trying to form genuine romantic connections, but are either messing around or hoping for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 01:17 AM
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Theres a reason for why they are from those countries and not other countries. Those countries aren't short on men. Why do you think all these women are matching someone in a different country and from a different culture, instead of pursuing a relationship with a nice, local man. If they like you for your looks, you would likely not be short on matches everywhere. If it's for your incredible wealth, then again, you'd be getting matches everywhere. I assume you are a nice, normal american guy. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 01:11 AM
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As an immigrant myself: lots of people. Especially from those countries. Compared to places like the Philippines the US has incredible opportunities, especially if you immigrate on a K1 and go to live with someone rent free/with no bills. The US is still one of the best places on earth to live in the grand scheme of things. Nothing wrong with wanting to immigrate to start a better life imo, but people are people. They're gonna put in more effort when you're perceived as higher value, and being w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 12:54 AM
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This isn't a "western women" thing, it's a "I want a green card thing." If you were an average man from the Philippines, Indonesia, Vietnam, you'd get treated the same on OLD by the very women that are so great to you. I don't think theres anything wrong with dating foreigners, or dating for a green card or anything, but just be real about what's going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 09:21 PM
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Side effects are super important. I can't use any hormonal BC because of side effects....which mean I can't really use any of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 06:16 AM
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Sure, but it doesn't give women more power over pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 12:36 AM
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Eh, sort of. They have hormones, which are essentially the same thing in different packages (shot/pill/IUD) and often cause side effects. Then they have the copper IUD, which often causes heavier periods. That's pretty much it. Female condoms aren't used b/c they don't work well (come out easily), and sponges get stuck and move around so they aren't reliable nor do they work well either. There's not really a condom equivalent for women (put something on, no side effects) that works and doesn't f…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 10:14 PM
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have virtually all the power when it comes to pregnancy When abortions are not available they have no power.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 08:34 PM
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I think aborting a child because of their race or gender is clearly morally wrong, How is that more morally wrong than abortion a child because you don't want a child? I'm genuinely curious about your reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 08:33 PM
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I agree with you. Either a fetus is a person that deserves legal protection and rights, or its a clump of cells that you can abort for any reason, including not wanting a child, health issues the fetus may have, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 08:32 PM
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I understand it's from the article. I'm asking why you think it's relevant to me? It means your data is weak. ​ Here's an article that says the average person tells 4 lies per day. Based on this, does that mean we shouldn't care if someone lies to us? That is what you are asking. It matters what the lie is. Some lies don't matter, some do. Just because something is common, doesn't mean it's permissible. In order to prevent bad behaviors from occurring, we need to incentivize people to not engage…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 03:05 PM
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That quote is from your article. Did you read the article you linked? Your analogy is a false equivalency. If you think every single person is willing to cheat, why do you care if they do?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 02:52 PM
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I understand that part of it for sure, I just don't get why resentment is the emotion for either gender. I can get being sad or feeling like you're missing out on what beautiful people get to do, but resentment doesn't really make sense when you think about it. Of course who wouldn't want to be a brilliant and charming 10/10 supermodel, right? But for those of us that aren't at the top, why resent other people for wanting to be with attractive people? Is it because, growing up, some people were …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 11:58 PM
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I don't get why men are resentful of this. In the past they were not part of that top 20% of attractive men, and also had nothing else to offer as they were teens/in college. As they aged they still do not have the beauty of those top men, but they have things to offer now, like financial stability, personality traits that come with maturity and wisdom, etc. It makes sense that now women would be interested in those men rather than their past versions that were a worse version of the top men. Me…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 09:53 PM
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"this data has not been published in a peer reviewed journal or been subject to any demographic controls." I personally don't consider emotional cheating and physical cheating to be interchangeable. If emotional cheating is having a crush while married, then yes every single human "emotionally cheats" or just...behaves normally. That being said, I want you to tell me why you're ok with someone that's willing to cheat given the opportunity but not someone that actually does cheat?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 03:26 PM
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Almost everyone? Your previous statistics said less than half of people. I'm starting to think less of your intelligence. Oh fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 09:49 PM
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So you would be with someone willing to cheat on you if given the opportunity. That's fine. That's your choice. :) I don't really see a difference between "will cheat given the opportunity" and "does cheat on you." At that point might as well be real and have an open relationship rather than lie. Or break up. Or work it out. But I'm not gonna sleep better at night knowing my partner would cheat if they could than if I knew they were cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 08:54 PM
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I don't agree. I think cheaters will cheat because it's about a person's values and morals. People with strong values/morals don't push boundaries, lie or cheat. They either solve problems in the relationship or break up. No one wakes up one day a cheater. Cheaters are people willing to lie to you, and they are like that from day 1. "Reducing risk" implies that the person you are with would cheat on you if they could text their ex/had the chance. If you want to be with someone that would cheat o…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 08:14 PM
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No they don't, judging by the responses here. Using PPD to judge the general public is your first mistake. These people don't even care if someone is talking to an ex, which is bar the most likely person a partner could cheat with. I don't care either. Cheaters are gonna cheat weather they talk to an ex or not, you know? If not talking to exes is your preference, great. Don't date people that talk to exes, nothing wrong with that. I'm personally never going to tell another adult who they can or …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 05:20 PM
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Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 06:34 PM
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I would say the vast majority of people do not in fact engage in active risk mitigation in their relationships. Yes they do. They just don't talk about it the way you guys do. Normal people 100% care if their partner has a history of lying, or engages in questionable behavior, etc. They aren't willing to just date anyone. I disagree. Social media is one of the largest causes of divorces, and ex's are the most common partners for cheating. To say eliminating these will do 'nothing' to prevent div…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 06:22 AM
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I don't disagree with any of that, but most sensible people do this, red pill or not. But the things you do have to make sense, be reasonable, and be tailored to the individual. The things listed in the post, like no social media, or not talking to exes will do nothing to prevent divorce. A much more reasonable approach is to get to know a person well, over a long period of time. So you get close enough to where you do know how your woman really feels about everything. Setting arbitrary rules li…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 04:38 AM
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Any marriage can end in divorce, no matter how many rules you set with the people you date. People can lie, people can change, or the issues can be (and often are) unrelated to trust like finances, falling out of love, etc. The sensible thing to do is get a prenup and don't marry someone who wants to stay home. Don't put someone else's name on a house you buy with your money. Make your partner a tenant if you must/sign a postnup etc. Do whatever you have to do legally. Men don't lose custody unl…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 04:20 AM
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I'd love to see single mother statistics that control for poverty. Also men have always been "allowed" to be polygamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 01:46 AM
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Why would anyone pick 2?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 10:13 PM
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maybe I should introspect why I feel this way. There's nothing wrong with your preferences, and there's nothing wrong with someone suggesting you to think about why you feel that way. Sounds like everyone was perfectly polite in an appropriate interaction in a dating debate sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 08:01 PM
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In addition to what everyone has said, I'd implore you to think about why men stay in abusive relationships too. With women and with other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 02:43 AM
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We're in a time where it makes 0 sense not to split the bill on a first date if you're not traditional. Otherwise yeah, every time a date doesn't work out the guy is just out money. It isn't fair and makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 02:37 AM
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Yes. It changed my life, but it was very, very hard work. You have to go in willing to change and willing to work hard. It also took a long time to find a good therapist. A bad therapist is worse than no therapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 02:28 AM
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Someone writes a long, thought out response deconstructing your argument, and instead of being like "good point, thanks" or writing a thought out response you ignore everything and write this comment. Because man victim woman bad. PPD in a nutshell.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 07:19 PM
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A lot of humans face discrimination, hardship, disability, etc. Its never an excuse for violence. We should have empathy and validate other people's struggles. But hardship is never an excuse or justification for violence. People that struggle with anger issues need mental health help, and I hope we continue down the road of destigmatizing getting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 05:45 AM
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especially for your own children You should meet my parents then.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 04:29 AM
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I think it seems obvious for women, but clearly not to a lot of men. Else these men wouldn't find the obvious parts of red pill a revelation. I think it is true that men are told by parents/media/social groups to just be yourself/be nice and you'll find someone, and they believe it. Women are told from day one how their value is connected to their looks in the eyes of the world. "You're pretty" is the first compliment most girls get. We're getting hit on by old men from age 11 onward. We're gett…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 12:10 AM
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I'm explaining red pill views.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 11:06 PM
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What's the difference between a best friend and you and your wife's relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 05:41 PM
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Totally, but thats a whole different scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 03:14 PM
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Which is, at the end of the day, entitlement. " I am entitled to this man's heart because I'm the only one who can change it! No it isn't. There's no entitlement. He's willingly choosing to date her and is treating her sweetly. She thinks this means he's actually a good guy deep down and hoping he'll change for the better. Because he's not being authentic with her. That being said, wanting to help someone change for the better isn't entitlement. It's just wanting to help someone. At no point doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 01:45 AM
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That sub is a little different. They are traditional women that want to be with red pill men. Red pill men's view of the average (non tradcon) woman's behavior is what OP is asking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 01:43 AM
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I actually think it comes from the fact that when "bad boy" first starts dating a new girl he is extra nice to her and isn't toxic towards her, so it seems like she is changing him/there's anther side to him only she sees. Because when he's love bombing her/being sweet to her it literally is another side of him. It's not about thinking they are special, it's about observing that bad boy is treating them differently and thinking this is due to him dating her specifically. Which is a pretty normal…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 01:22 AM
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I don't think that's the red pill, that's just traditional/conservative women. Red Pill is more about modern more progressive women. It explains that while women claim to want equality, and claim that niceness and personality are what matters, in reality they do not want equality (as seen in the expectation that men pay and initiate,) and grossly underrepresent how much physical appearance matters and status matters. The red pill is saying women want men that are good looking, rich, and confiden…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 01:14 AM
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The issue here is the people in the video are there to kiss. They all agreed to be there. Irl if a strange man came up to a woman and just kissed her there's a very high chance she would be uncomfortable and would be asked to leave. Even if he looked like a movie star, there would still be lots of women put off by that behavior. Also someone can be strong/assertive and still ask for consent. It's not either or.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 10:54 PM
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Life isn’t equal or fair. You ladies say these words but never pay let alone spoil the man in a relationship and expect us to die defending you yet can’t even clean up without whining I personally always go dutch. Going dutch tradition in a lot of countries/cultural groups. I don't support the expectation that men should pay so I'm not sure why you're attacking me on that point. Many women don't support drafting only men. That being said, the vast majority of men are likely never going to experi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 07:38 PM
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I'm not speaking from personal experience. That being said, you misunderstood. Men and women both work. Men are no longer providers while women stay home. Both men and women provide. In those cases expecting women to do most domestic labor/childcare is just as toxic as expecting men to pay when both parties work. Division of labor must be more or less equal to be fair when both the man and woman in the relationship work.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 08:25 AM
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I'm talking about situations where men expect women to both work and do the majority of domestic labor and childcare.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 08:16 AM
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That's a separate issue. The issue I brought up is the expectation for women to do domestic labor because they are women by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 07:20 AM
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For those millions of years men have been the providers. Not the case any more. Hence why it's an issue. If it's not arduous/easy then why don't those men do their part?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 05:37 AM
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Both men and women perpetuate toxicity in each other. Women want toxic masculinity when it suits them, but men do the same thing. Lots of men expect/want women to work, do most housework and most childcare. Lots of women that work want men to pay for everything. etc. etc. Lots of people are just quite selfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 09:42 PM
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All types of people cheat, regardless of how they look, and women and men cheat at similar rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 08:23 AM
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Both men and women cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 06:10 AM
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So you're agreeing with me that men are wanting to get the best possible woman they can get. Like women. Men that can't get a woman they want are the ones turned off from relationships. Same with women. We all want the best we can get. So back to the original comment...everyone wants the best they can get...not just women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 05:40 AM
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who settle for the women that don't really want Sounds like you just made the argument that men are also seeking the highest value women. So we're all the same. Everyone wants the best partner they can get. Revolutionary.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 03:19 AM
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I think it's more that mothers are telling sons who they want their sons to be, which is not a womanizing bad boy. That's what many parents do. Try to make their kids into who they want their kids to be. Thankfully as we grow up we realize parents are just deeply flawed people like everyone else, and know as much and as little as everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 05:52 PM
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An attractive woman that has committed murder would be less attractive than a physically repulsive woman that has not? Idk. Attractiveness is effected by appearance to such a degree that I'm sure it can override murderer if the alternative is very physically unattractive, unless there's a risk that they would murder you. Then it's not an attractiveness thing but a self preservation thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 08:46 PM
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I mean women that think all men are horrible have their own issues to deal with. That being said, someone that is pleasant to be around isn't necessarily sexually attractive. Someone can be missing traits that are unattractive and still be lacking traits that make them attractive. If you are not attracted to a woman, her lack of negative qualities, like not being a murderer, aren't going to make her more attractive to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 06:30 AM
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so when you get blatant disrespect time and time again, when you react bad once, women go “ nice guy not so nice after all“ How did you react? Niceness isn't a sexually attractive trait. People aren't sexually attracted to "nice." Mentally healthy people want to be around nice humans, but of the nice humans they interact with are going to pick the ones with the sexually attractive qualities to date. Just like you may want to date a nice young lady, but it's not the niceness that is sexually attr…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 05:12 AM
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Part of who someone is as a person is the choices they make. Those choices include things like the food they eat, the books they read, how much time they volunteer at the soup kitchen, but also the clothes they wear, and how they take care of their physical bodies. Our personalities/character/who we are as a person dictates what we end up looking like. Sure, it doesn't change how tall someone is or the size of their forehead, but it effects their superficial qualities like style, fitness level, …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 05:12 PM
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The sex tape helped them get the reality show, which women watched. I'm sure men watched the tape, but if women didn't watch their show Kim would have been forgotten as a socialite with a sex tape.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 01:12 AM
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Guess who catapulted them into fame though? Men It was women not men. Most people that care about the Kardashians are women. The people that watched their reality show were and are mostly women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 12:54 AM
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I don't agree at all. Personality and appearance are not separate things. People look how they look because of their personality. People's appearance is part of their personality. It's all the same thing. I'm not gonna judge someone because they have a big nose, but I'm gonna judge someone based on how they choose to dress, how they care for themselves, how they choose to style their hair, etc. These are all choices that reflect their personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 06:14 PM
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Or...you just don't feel attracted to someone based on appearance, while thinking they're a perfectly normal person??
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 11:45 AM
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Only you think those women aren't beautiful
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 11:44 AM
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Bigotry: obstinate or unreasonable attachment to a belief, opinion, or faction; in particular, prejudice against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group. If you think it's immoral to have physical preferences, that's fine. But calling it bigotry or shallow is factually incorrect based on what those words literally mean. Someone's character is going to determine what they look like. Not only that, but appearance is part of attraction and I don't see anything immo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 03:44 AM
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Men aren't attracted to a woman's wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 02:43 AM
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Society is not great at teaching young men empathy. Or women. Empathy is lacking in everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 05:51 PM
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The way they decorate their apartments. I've always wondered why men don't decorate their spaces in a more cozy way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 07:34 AM
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Bad boy doesn't mean someone committing actual crimes. It's more like wearing dark colors, confidence, and risk-taking is attractive, rather than being a murderous psychopath.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 03:09 AM
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People can both have fun, take care of themselves, and do what they're supposed to do for their future.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 08:55 PM
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I'm saying there are no parents to stop adults from doing what they like. So there's not an "it's now or never" for adults. And no matter what, the novelty always wears off whether you have sex with a bunch of new people or a bunch of times with the same person.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 05:56 PM
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but having so many opportunities to sex that it is no longer novel for the woman so the excitement isn't there. *For teenagers. This does not apply to women/adult who are free to do as they like.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 04:54 PM
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That's not what bigoted means. You keep using words incorrectly to suit your argument. You can't do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 04:27 PM
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Just keep finances separate and have an ironclad prenup and you're set. If a woman isn't ok with that then she's not for you. Better than faking it then getting resentful.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 03:49 AM
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Equality between the two genders doesn't mean individuals can't choose what they want to do and how they want to spend their money. The two people in the relationship can decide whatever works for them, regardless of the gender of the two people, and we can still have gender equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 03:45 AM
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Judging on people on appearance is very shallow You're using shallow wrong. Shallow means judging people only by appearance. If you're judging people by a multitude of factors, appearance being one of them, that is not shallow. Don't judge a book by it's cover means there is more to people than appearance...meaning don't judge people on appearance alone. To add to that, a person's outward appearance is a reflection of who they are on the inside. It shows if someone takes care of themselves. Thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 10:25 PM
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Seems like the girl got to know the guy and was no longer into him. Guys do this too btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 05:36 AM
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They need to put themselves in a lady's shoes. If they had 4-5 lovely, young ladies asking for their number every weekend, would they text all of them? Nah, probably not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 07:13 PM
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She probably is into him, just possible she's not that into him
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 07:12 PM
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She probably didn't like you in the moment as much as you think she liked you in the moment
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 06:48 PM
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I'm advocating for nosiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 03:43 PM
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It's not my job to police other people. Two consenting adults can still be abused and assaulted. In which case it's generally a good thing that other people make it their business.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 07:38 AM
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He's the one behind science. God: and you, mitochondria, shall be the powerhouse of the cell.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 04:24 AM
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Judging people not on inward qualities is shallow By the definition of the word shallow that is not correct. Also, the outward qualities and inward qualities are very connected.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 11:59 PM
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Basically humans are gonna human regardless of economic systems.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 11:26 PM
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Men have wives, daughters and sisters and struggle to understand a woman's experience. Same with women when it comes to men. As I previously said, showing empathy for the struggles of others is something anyone can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 02:30 PM
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I'm answering the comment: "what do you want me to do about it." No one should expect empathy from anyone. That being said, plenty of women care, and plenty more will if men continue to raise awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 02:04 PM
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Show empathy and validate their struggles. Or the same thing you would say to anyone that is complaining about a hardship you personally cannot fix.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 03:05 AM
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Thats just normal? It would be cruel to the other person to date them if you aren't actually attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 12:52 PM
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I think they both want each other more than they need each other. No man or woman needs a partner, they just want one.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 11:27 PM
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Looks digging is another beast but definitely shallow to reject someone for their appearance But everyone cares about looks. It's not shallow, it's normal. Shallow means caring only about looks. Dating someone you aren't attracted to is mean to both yourself and them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 03:21 PM
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So money as a preference means the connection isn't genuine, but looks as a preference is totally fine and perfectly genuine?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 12:57 AM
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Ok. Would you date someone repulsively ugly to you but with a nice personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 11:29 PM
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how do you think people prove it in court now? They don't have to to get a divorce. So if abuse can't be proven they can still divorce and re-marry. A lot of cases of rape and abuse don't go anywhere due to lack of evidence. Thankfully, victims are free to divorce abusers even when they can't prove it, even if a judge chooses not to believe the victim. Which happens. A lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 09:29 PM
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So if someone gets abused, leaves, how will they prove the abuse? Either get abused again and somehow record it, or it's victim's word against abuser's? Are victims just going to be forced to stay married to abusers if they don't want to get abused more to collect evidence? Do you know how risky it is to record your abuser?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 05:02 PM
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How could it be a genuine relationship when she'd leave him if he lost his income? Maybe she wouldn't as long as he found another job. If he became unemployed out of laziness she might leave. You can definitely have a genuine connection and want a partner that can financially support themselves. Same way how you can have a genuine connection and want a partner that loves you and treats you well. We all have preferences and expectations from potential partners, doesn't make the connection not gen…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 03:11 PM
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evidence Back to my original point. Victims have to have evidence, which means enduring abuse until they have evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 03:03 PM
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Pigeons aren't real.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 01:38 AM
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How are you gonna convince a judge of that without proof? The abuser can just deny it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 01:37 AM
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So someone who is getting abused has to keep getting abused until there is enough evidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 11:22 PM
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You'd have to prove abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 11:21 PM
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Lesbians and pigeons.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 11:20 PM
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I mean that's just not what a gold digger is. A gold digger is someone that has a relationship just to take money from men. If the woman in question wants a genuine relationship, but only with a rich man, she's not technically a gold digger. It's just her preference to date rich men. Idk about you, but I wouldn't call a man a gold digger if he rejected a woman for being unemployed. Would you? Plenty of men don't want to support a woman/live on a single income.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 08:34 PM
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So, you've changed the definition of gold digger to make it whatever you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 02:57 PM
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If you don't want to clearly state your point/argument, then have a good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 10:01 PM
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If it makes you feel better to pretend that you've won the argument when you know I disagree with you, go for it. I'm always happy to donate my time to helping the handicapped. I don't understand what you disagree with? Just clearly state your argument/what you believe. Often said by people who refuse to better themselves. Regardless of who says what, that doesn't make it not a separate argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 07:53 PM
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​ Just wanted to acknowledge another point you dropped when you realized you couldn't respond to it. I genuinely don't know what point I dropped. They are depriving themselves. They're more than free to better themselves and find someone. So you agree they are deprived. Great. Seems like you're just agreeing with everything I'm saying. The "better themselves" argument is a whole new can of worms. That's a conversation about solutions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 07:18 PM
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Is there a reason you didn't respond to this? "I’m literally describing the comment you responded to as being the one addressing the thread topic, not your comment. That’s why I said the word “they’re” I don't know what response you want. I didn't say you compared them. I said you conflated them. You're using the right to vote as an example for your point. I'm using the right to vote as an example of how we define privilege vs right. BY WHO? There is no default assumption of sex my dude lol. You…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 05:16 PM
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You still have no proof that a majority of all women are gold diggers. If you reject a guy because he doesn't have enough money.. you're literally saying there's a specific amount of income required to date you.. that makes her LITERALLY a gold digger... someone who has a requirement of income to date someone. If you reject a woman because you're not attracted to her, that means you want a trophy wife. There's literally a specific physical criteria she has to meet for you to date her. If you rej…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 05:07 PM
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​ You are. The right to vote has nothing to do with the human sex drive. I think you need to go and re-read what I actually said about the right to vote. I never compared the two. So again, who is depriving them of sex? They are deprived of sex. The reason for why someone is not having it is going to vary one person to another.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 06:24 AM
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​ This was in response to the thread topic being about hypocrisy between people pulling themselves up by their bootstraps. They're giving an explanation as to why the logic applies to one but not the other. I was responding directly to a commenter, not addressing the thread topic. When I say OP, I mean the person I originally responded to. That's not true, you started by saying sex is a basic human need, that's different from a basic human right. You're conflating the two. Voting is not a basic …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 01:01 AM
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OP's argument is: because not having sex won't kill you, then it's a privilege. I'm arguing that if the the way we determine whether something is a privilege is by whether it will kill you or not, then a lot of things deemed basic rights are also privileges. Which makes things like the right to vote a privilege, not a right. Or equal pay becomes a privilege, not a right. Freedom from slavery becomes a privilege not a right. Defining something as a right based on whether it will kill you or not i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 11:14 PM
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And that was a response to comparing the need for sex to basic human rights like water, food, and shelter. No one was comparing sex to the things you mentioned. I think you're deliberately missing my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 10:03 PM
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What is your point exactly? That sex is as important as the right to vote? Doctors determine if the mother's life is at risk. Not all preventative care addresses life threatening illnesses. The point is that just because something doesn't kill you doesn't mean it's not important. This was a response to a comment that said not having sex won't kill you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 09:28 PM
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Non-life threatening abortions. And lack of preventative care doesn't lead to death. You can still get emergency care when you're actually actively dying. :) It's what many insurance companies do already. But you can also focus on my other examples as I think they get my point across.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 09:14 PM
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Are you gonna die without the right to vote? To have an abortion? To get equal pay? Preventative medical care? Elective surgeries? Non life-threatening illnesses being treated? You won't die in solitary confinement either. Or from being abused or assaulted. If not dying is where you wanna draw the line then fine. That's the world you wanna live in.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 07:57 PM
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It's a basic human need not a privilege. Unless everything is a privilege, including being given food, water, and shelter.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 07:37 PM
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Ah, the classic myth that average looking men treat women better.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 09:29 PM
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Majority = group with most people. For simplicity lets divide women into two groups, Superficial (gold diggers, status diggers, "must have degree" , "must be home owner" etc) and Non-Superficial (literally don't care about the man's income or social status) The 1st group of women is by far the majority and saying otherwise would be delusion. Prove it. (But I'm glad you finally agree with me that majority in your statement is over half of all women) Being a gold digger and valuing financial succe…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 08:50 PM
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That's not cheating. That's an open relationship. Cheating involves lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 04:54 PM
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"Larger representation" is = to group with most members obviously. 40 30 30 split makes the 40 group the majority Then what are all the groups of which gold digger is the majority? What are the other groups? ​ Majority of ALL women is ridiculous statement, it is Majority of women are gold diggers Most women want rich men and everyone knows it, stop virtue signaling Being a gold digger and valuing financial success are not the same thing. Not every man that values attractiveness wants a trophy wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 04:55 PM
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Majority of women REALLY REALLY value financial success in a man.. gold diggers are in abundance Majority: Dictionary.com: The greater number. A majority of 100 women is 51 or more. Majority means most. Even your definition says "larger representation." That mean if women fall into two groups: women that would be willing to be non-monogamous for a rich celebrity and those that would not, more than half of women in the sample would have to be willing for them to be a majority. If the sample is "a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 07:45 PM
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You don't understand what majority means If you pick 100 people and there's a 40, 30, 30 split between opinion on something The 40 votes are the majority because they're the highest group You don't need over half to be considered the majority only to have the most members This is not correct. They are the biggest group, but not the majority. You are also unable to prove your claim that the biggest group of women are celebrity gold diggers. I don't even know what other groups you've classified wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 02:45 PM
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Majority doesn't mean half, it means the group with largest amount of members Majority means more than half. It's another word for "most." If it's less than half it is no longer "most." When you say most, it means more than half, or the majority. When you say "majority of women" you're saying more than half of all women. There's far more gold diggers and celeb worshippers than there are homely women who just wanna be a house wife. There are lots of women who are neither. You have any proof that …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 08:21 PM
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Less accomplished doesn't mean dumber.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 06:43 PM
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You're moving goalposts, we went from "Women don't do that" to "It's not 50% of women doing it, these men are manipulators" Not true. You said "most women" do it. I said it's not 50% of women, meaning not most. I never called anyone a manipulator, nor do I believe that the men in question are manipulators. Thats garbage reasoning, women want attractive, rich, wealthy men.. and if you've gotta sacrifice monogamy to have a piece they'll gladly do it I don't see any evidence of "women" doing that. …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 01:51 AM
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Obviously i used Drake as an example cause he is well known HVM... Point is simple. Women will work to keep HVM's interest, even if it means being in a harem. I don't see any evidence of that. What I said above is what most women do.. accept what HVM does cause he'll leave if you don't You keep saying this as if it's been repeatedly said into you, but I have never seen any evidence that this is actually true about over 50% of women. I think what's actually happening is these men seek out the typ…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 10:10 PM
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Weird way of describing most women.. If a guy is High Value to a woman, she'll do whatever to keep him "High value" is going to look very different to different women. The only ones who matter are the majority, all men can't date unicorns.. advice should be given that works on majority I don't think there is any proof that the majority of women would be in an open relationship with Drake. Not true.. there's very observable qualities in what majority of women find attractive like Height Thats tru…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 07:48 PM
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If a woman finds a guy that HV, she'll accept whatever terms he states No, a certain type of woman will. To a lot of women compatibility of values is important. Plenty of women would say (and probably have said) no to those two celebs. Women are all different, and it's wrong to form an opinion about what women as a whole do based on what one group of women would do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 06:19 PM
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Being seen as a sex object means being seen as only someone to have sex with. So if a woman/man is viewed as a sex object, they are viewed only as someone to have sex with, their personality, wants, needs, who they are as a person doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 05:37 PM
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Right. Live at home, save for a home. Better to move out at 40 into a paid off house/apartment, than give your money to a landlord, or get a crappy mortgage and pay twice what the house is worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 05:31 AM
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not paying the rent I'd say it's not better to pay rent than not pay rent. There's a weird stigma about living with parents. It's a great financial decision. I say if you can do it, do it as long as you can.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 01:07 AM
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A certain type of woman does.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 10:19 PM
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I went to a university with majority women. No one could get in a relationship and men were super picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 06:40 PM
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Essentially this only applies to a handful of topics... such as pregnancy issues. No, it's about situations where a women is assumed to be ignorant on a subject by a man due to her gender and no other reason. Men can be very knowledgable about pregnancy, and plenty of women are not knowledgable about pregnancy. In the Victorian Era dating for women was very much about screening men for the best providers and highest statuses. Oh and, don't forget you can't speak to your dancing partner unless th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 07:27 AM
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Probably not, and if that's your priority monogamy probably isn't gonna work for you. Sex drive changes for people throughout life, both men and women. Even someone with a high sex drive can end up with a health condition or on a medication that lowers it, so there's not gonna be a guarantee.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 10:35 PM
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I'm saying sex and spending money are too different to compare. You can just compare withholding sex for both.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 07:29 AM
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I think a better analogy is if the man made the woman keep waiting after she was ready, and she finds out he didn't do that with other women. It's very reasonable to wait to spend significant money on a woman or man until you're sure, and you're sure about some people faster than others. And this does happen irl. Men do stop "courting" women, or giving gifts, etc., especially in times that the relationship isn't going well. Women do too. It's all very reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 06:27 AM
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Donating eggs also has a bunch of requirements, including height.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 01:44 AM
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Everyone hides all downsides of their policies, liberals and conservatives alike.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 06:10 AM
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You shall check how it is going in r/Canada Liking liberal policies doesn't mean being unable to look at them critically.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 03:58 PM
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I believe that liberal policies, like increased minimum wage, abortion rights, more social services, increased oversight of financial markets, renewable energy tend to benefit the country/economy as a whole. I don't have loans but support loan forgiveness because it benefits everyone. The same arguments are made by conservatives about their policies, though we'd disagree on whose policies are actually effective. Plenty of people's political views are about what they believe benefits the country …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 04:42 AM
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I think instead of asshole the op should have said problem. If one person doesn't want to be your friend, then you've met one person that doesn't want to be your friend. If everyone you meet doesn't want to be your friend, you're the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 05:19 PM
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It's not the same. In a consensual role-play both parties have control. No one is actually being violated, or humiliated, or hurt, or controlled.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 07:11 PM
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