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Svarthofthi/r/seduction28/02/13 08:31 AM
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sign their ass up for some newsletters or something but I mean, I doubt it'll make ya feel better.
/r/askTRP09/04/21 07:34 PM
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thank you so much for this.
/r/askTRP09/10/20 08:27 AM
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You can do that very easily by ignoring this garbage and her.
/r/askTRP29/11/18 07:19 PM
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You shouldn't take it too seriously. It is just satire. These characters are stereotypes.
/r/MensRights06/10/16 10:33 PM
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You bad, bro?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 03:31 AM
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Best part of this thread. Blues call this person a bad lay, reds say his dick is small. This person doesn't exist but I feel for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 03:11 AM
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Both professions have nasty stereotypes for these reasons. Also, there's a world of difference between jobs and sexual relationships. Codes of conduct protects assholes. Your local bar does not. It doesn't have to be overt, doing dark triad shit to women by inexperienced first timers or amateurs is going to ruin your reputation and or get you hurt by white knights or others who got a bone to pick. Dark triad shit is for rich kids with powerful dads.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 09:32 PM
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Generally speaking, the people who imitate these traits often become abhorrent to the people around them. The self service, manipulation, and usage that the dark triad represents in this day and age is more liable to get yourself a beating or jail time than be successful. Moreover, why go down that dark road when a more moderate strategy of being strong, confident, and having a unified sense of self is largely more successful. The dark triad is just the real politik of sexual strategy, once peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 07:40 PM
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Even if they are more fair most of the time, which I disagree with, it's a problem that it can be abused. Even if it worked 99% of the time it would still need changing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 01:46 AM
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I mean, it's not out of the question that if the position were reversed that men would divorce rape women as well. This is a nietsche esque view of humanity. You give people something easily abused and they will abuse it. When marriage deteriorates I doubt one partner had the explicit plan of financially demolishing the other, it just becomes a rationalized reaction to their anger. Humans do shit out of spite all the time, the difference here is there are too many easy ways in America to harm yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/16 11:58 PM
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I think the definition of how men and women love in trp is likely vastly different than views outside of it. They say men love idealistically, but most relationship dogma in there seems to revolve around transaction and power dynamic. I only say this because I think it really renders a discussion on love moot as the definitions on both sides is likely very different.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/16 11:11 AM
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Well, I mean, I gotta see what all the hub - bub is about don't I?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 09:21 AM
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Early on sex is just sex, you shouldn't be worried about that. It's after you get a good feel for each other is when the assignments come out. Women are the ones pushing for commitment, generally, it should be fairly straight forward by how they respond as to where you fit. Consider placation as a "spinning" maneuver.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 12:36 AM
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No matter your gender you hope your efforts are appreciated. Don't twist it into some warped ideal of a five year old wanting to slay dragons for his princess. War sacrifice is a whole other drive, the idea of being a hero isn't tied to just male behavior. I assume that media is consumed by people who share similar traits. Males do tend to fantasize about being a war hero. This is irrelevant, though, as we're talking about relationships. Sacrifice made for people you care about is a different be…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 12:01 AM
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The individual may not be expecting anything from it. We're speaking from a place of observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 10:27 PM
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Clearly its a matter of nuance. Where the balance tips and how far. Healthy relationships are definitely give and take. I suppose the point is that within the realm of the manosphere the idea is that gender relations are out of balance. I don't think it would be a stretch to say that many realms of the manosphere including trp would be inclined to agree that women take men for granted in todays age. I think its important to also state that the reverse exists as well, but this is not the topic we…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 08:30 AM
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I haven't ever said mean things to the situation you've described. I think you're painting with a broad brush. Just because I think a man is being used by a woman doesn't open up the floodgates of insults toward her. It's about making men aware. Giving them the opportunity to make an informed decision through anecdotes and workable theory. I'm sure there are plenty of women who are lovely in these respects but in my experience they are the exception. The point is not to let that jade you. Also, …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 07:16 AM
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Generally correct but off the mark. It's not considered a smart move in any climate to give up things in exchange for nothing, that's why its a sacrifice. Today's culture being what it is an even worse idea as most times it simply won't be appreciated. So if you only see the man making a sacrifice, what are the odds it's only him? Moreover what is the appropriate response to sacrifice as well? High level sacrifice met with a thanks isn't particularly worth it. TRP, ideally, wants to make good mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 05:57 AM
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As a biological imperative you do need sex. Assuming you're not asexual, every person needs sex. There are myriad studies out there showing the effects of the mind and body on a sexless person. It's just not as simple a need to understand as thirst, hunger, or sleep. No sex, though, will effect you have a sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 11:27 PM
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Out of curiosity, let's say that a person at work or in a social setting is trying to get a yes/no out of you. How do you successfully negotiate not answering without ruining your status in these areas? Lying gives you camouflage and could be useful as for the alternative remaining ambiguous could set some people off. I'd say lie at work, in social settings I've just always run into it head first "feminism is idiotic" then attempt to take it into the realm of absurdity.
/r/TheRedPill14/04/16 06:31 AM
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Could you elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 11:26 PM
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It sort of depends. You have to realize that TRP makes many broad strokes in its message to reinforce a proper mindset. That mindset being essentially a strong independent man. Traits of dominance, self-sustained emotional stability, and, to some extent, a SMV approach to women. Moreover, the broad strokes are intended to be accepted for what they are, there is always circumstance, and you'll find it. At the beginning, though, they're arming you with a mindset, not a truth necessarily. I don't n…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 11:28 AM
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Perhaps not in an overt manner of violence or outright destructive modes. However, I think the argument could be made that these sorts of men are left wanting and miserable. I'd akin it to a societal removal of undesirable genes. That it may not be a conscious movement. I'm not sure I'd go so far as to agree with that argument, however it does bring up a curious line of questioning of how these men find trp, they have to have been angry, unfulfilled, used, and came looking for answers. I'd say y…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 01:49 AM
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That was a really poignant analogy. I suppose your age might be in consideration. There is a thrill to a young man taking an older woman. At least to me, mind you, I also agree with your statement for the most part. However, its been my experience they have some tricks up their sleeves.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 02:41 AM
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Well, they're not ALL ugly. Surely there is room in your heart for the cougar?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 12:36 AM
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The philosopher king of course
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/16 10:25 PM
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Definitely a question worth asking. The diagnosis sorta changes if she's fingerblasting herself at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/16 10:20 PM
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How do you provide stats on a societal concept? This is a reductive argument that goes no where.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/16 07:10 PM
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This is what having hobbies and joining those social circles are for. Find something you want to learn and get into the society. There are plenty of attractive women that go to dance studios, for instance, which you can easily get into. Mind you, I'm younger, but displaying any talent at dance got me some extra attention from cougars that were there. That's just an example. It doesn't really get more difficult imo, the dynamic just changes. Generally speaking, if you're continuing to grow yourse…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 11:19 AM
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Making a show of judgement i.e. public shaming is rude, but judging their character is your business. This may be a difference in opinion, but as a example, you would want to gauge whether or not this person you're about to sleep with is well-adjusted or not, that the sex ends at sex and not some other strange unwanted experiences. You should be making judgement calls EVERY time you have sex with someone new. Maybe don't be a dick about it, though, and put them on blast.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 11:12 PM
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I mean, he or she is allowed to think whatever they like, but in general, I find that looking down on someone for the type of relationship they desire is the kind of nonsense that progressives were trying to kill.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 11:03 PM
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Yes, redpill women are looking for their captain as well. Traditional relationship dynamics are still sought after.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 11:00 PM
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Well, it was explicitly sarcastic. I don't know about you, but I've passed on sex with people that had STDs, it's not even worth it. There are other concerns than just that as well. Saying that it is none of my business is reductive and ill-advised, if you're going to have sex with someone you should know as much as you can about a person within the time you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 10:54 PM
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I'm not RP, but I figure I can answer, marriage and LTR are not the same thing. You'll see threads of people on TRP or asktrp looking to LTR and captain a relationship. You just don't get married on the pretense that inviting the government into your relationships is a bad idea and the general feeling is that divorces heavily favor women. So in this case, these rpers would care if a woman was capable of pair-bonding. Moreover, there are more issues with a high number count involving but not limi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 10:44 PM
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I could really give zero shits if I go home alone, I was looking at what he was saying. He's doing YOU a favor by doing what he does, which is classic egotism, I know the dark triad is something that many regard as good but this is delusional. He's over-aggressive in what he believes in necessary in handling a shit test. I never claimed to be alpha, my point is that it is not a good behavior and is good way to end your night getting your ass kicked.
/r/TheRedPill29/11/15 06:58 AM
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Decimation punished the whole army, not just the failures, every tenth man and what-have-you. The math doesn't add up here. Point being, his way of handling shit tests is to aggressively dismantle a woman's ego. Up to you if you want to use that, he somehow thinks that this will indirectly get you laid by creating a hot mess. Also, his ego seems to imply that he's the alpha and that most men won't really bother trying to fight him, but really, all it takes is some dude with a little cunning and …
/r/TheRedPill29/11/15 04:35 AM
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Like I was saying before. They're debating dogma in their threads. They hold their side bar as stuff to adhere to and the threads as a proving ground for what sticks. The worst that can be said about "the anger phase" moniker is that its just a shit debating tactic that adds nothing. My point was that its unimportant. PPD and every other subreddit in reddit does the same thing "you're a conservative" "you're a liberal" "oh you like BLANK so your opinion is invalid." "oh you're just in the anger …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 02:26 AM
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Basically, if it's not explicitly on the side bar they can say that they don't agree with it. It's a subreddit they're exchanging their ideas and feelings over the shift in dynamics between men and women. Of course there is going to be some salty mother fucker saying some nasty shit. None of the people that show up there are perfectly happy with their situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 11:49 PM
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We have similar grants and aids in America. Mind you I don't live in the uk so I have no lived experience in dealing with college and our costs are nearly double. However the cost in terms of gdp is still high. The uk among western countries is still ranked highly on the cost to attend. The trouble with grants and aids in America is that there is a level of gatekeeping going on. I have some experience in this having come from poverty and abuse it came to me to pay for school for 2 years before a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 12:55 AM
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TRPers might insist that women won't be able to look past their own hypergamous natures to understand that they might require lowering their standards in a society that doesn't actually help men educate themselves. In a lot of countries, particularly that US and the UK there are many groups of people that are financially and organizationally encouraged to educate themselves, men, being perceived as having been privileged or more franchised do not as often get the kind of assistance to attend col…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 11:55 AM
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Depends. I'm a cynic. It's not AWALT to me, I just tend to think that its easier for people to be shitty than good.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/15 05:27 PM
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It is an example of the implication. Obviously, the quote itself is poor, but its more or less a spiritual example of the concept. The concept of amused mastery revolves around implication, that you are of worth and you subtly imply your worth in a way that comes across as confident and alluring. It's hard to put something like that into words that aren't lived experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/15 08:36 AM
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Their point is that they, in most cases, wouldn't complain. They would end up not respecting you and doing things to reflect that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/15 08:23 AM
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These things you wrote about are heavily relative and seems derivative of status. It comes across that some people might overlook an "alpha" crying due to his status and generally strong nature. Someone who is trying to prove themselves or perhaps beta nature or less, would not get the same clemency even by your own implications. If or when you choose to show emotion to women by this argument its largely couched in risk. It's not worth it. If you're not of a status in which you're perceived as s…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/15 08:18 AM
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k bye!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 10:31 PM
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Ok, but its clear to me that I'm not misconstruing anything. Any difference in understanding here is chalked up to some ancient idiom that we can't be made to understand the other side when that's simply not true and honestly a terrible form of argument. Rape happens and its obviously a horrible thing but to allude that women nature makes these situations more difficult to get out of is disingenuous and exactly the problem I have with the whole concept. If you're done with attempting a debate, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 07:28 PM
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Agreed. Though, I'd say that either side of the facts lies a story used for other purposes than education. On the one side is the vitriolic lambasting of people like fph. The other a coddling insistence that it's OK to be fat. Like trendy hash tags #pizzasisters or the myriad shaming of thin privilege and modeling. Neither side is good. They both relate to each other in that they appear to subsist on the others hate. Leaving the people with genuine weight problems to sort through the ashes for d…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 07:27 AM
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I suppose you could make the argument that their shame tactics end in them dying sooner or losing weight. When discussing motives I've always considered people from fph or shamers in general don't care what the outcome is. It revolves around something akin to being less than human. If they died I imagine the shamers would hardly care. It's reactionary to the haes movement. It's easy to forget that someone is on the other side of the Internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 06:56 AM
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Yeah, it's extremely important to note that men are going to the red pill hands cupped and asking for knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 06:38 AM
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Someone contact the authorities, we found her.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 06:34 AM
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These situations are so ambiguous. If a woman is put into a scenario like you describe obviously her best option is to get out of there not let it happen just because she's afraid. These arguments don't actually put any responsibility on women. The entire onus us on men not to rape and the enigmatic concept or subjectivity of "enthusiastic consent" is another work around for men protecting women. It's crazy to me that feminism features the supposed empowerment of women yet strip them of having a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 06:19 AM
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I believe the assumption here is based on current perceived difficulties for men in terms of sex with women. Its considered a dangerous prospect by many groups that are male focused for myriad reasons, such as false rape accusations, pregnancies with no say, and so on. Compounded by these articles and sentiments that more and more men are checking out of relationships with women altogether. Herbivore men in Japan and other Western countries are showing a growing number of men who refrain from re…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 04:45 PM
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What a garbage attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 12:50 AM
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Probably should stick to the concept of the RP dogma being amoral and that being an allure. The hate speech against da lay-dees can get quite potent in that sub. Those times it would be very difficult to equate yourselves as egalitarian.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 11:49 AM
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You can pretty easily exchange the word love for need and the argument becomes a bit less ambiguous. The obvious merit being that if I don't need you but you feel you need me that allows for me to have more power in whatever arrangements we have. These dystopic theories of betas running to robots for sexual gratification and alphas prospering in a smp catering to their every whim strikes me as dishonest. As well as being suitable for their narrative. I can't tell if this story is something trp l…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 03:26 AM
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That is their point. It's a biological tendency. Mind you, they're also speaking in wide generalizations. They're attempting to explain hypergamy and other traits as biological tendencies. I think a major flaw, to outsiders, is their use of pseudo-science, on occasion they mention that the actual science isn't feasible considering the current gender climate. So, to them as a group, its irrelevant, they can see their social proof in action. In either case, their point is that there a few people w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 03:21 PM
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It certainly makes me wonder why you're here. Certainly not to debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 06:26 PM
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Are you pleased with how arrogant you come across? I've been reading multiple threads in which you show up and shitpost with no actual regard to debate. You stink of emotional biases. Because someone chooses to disagree with you, your tactics shift into being smug and rude. This is coming from a person who actively dislikes trp. You should actually do some fucking legwork instead of being a jerk. Prove your points for Christ's sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 06:32 AM
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Cuckold style relationships are more recently being written about as a progressive. Although they tend to be painted as open relationships with no mention of the male especially since sexual appetites being sated. They focus on the liberation of the female from monogamy. So yes there are blogs or progressive sites that paint cuckolding as the new deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 03:36 AM
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Oh, look. Another marketable item based off of a contempt for male behavior available for purchase to show you are a true feminist. Goes along fashionably with your "I drink male tears" sweatshirt.
/r/MensRights19/07/15 09:15 AM
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Well, we're going round and round in humanity's attempt to escape its nature, I suppose this is but another attempt to challenge it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 09:09 AM
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I doubt they'd suggest that men are not susceptible to fear/dread just as women are. We're all human beings. With proper mindfulness you can render it less impactful. If you know you're being manipulated that changes things. In this I suppose RP men find themselves equipped to render women's dread game ineffective. The definition of dread game in its application for women is probably different than it is for women. In this it might have been more helpful to see what RPW say about their own kind …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 08:51 AM
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Some people were mentioning that she did heroin or some shit, can someone prove/disprove this? Links would be helpful.
/r/MensRights08/07/15 08:29 AM
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My god, 25,000. That's as if my entire town killed themselves every year.
/r/MensRights07/07/15 10:55 AM
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Yes.
/r/MensRights05/06/15 07:15 AM
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That dude got FUCKED up. Made my stomach turn at several points.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 11:02 AM
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In agreement here. Lithuania is in a tenuous position. Depending on how the world, in the end, responds to Russia's aggressive expansion into Ukraine, this conscription is likely a prudent maneuver in order to combat any threats more effectively. I'm not sure where I heard it, but I heard it may only be a temporary conscription. Even if its not, there are quite a few western countries with mandatory service. I'm torn on whether or not it should be in place. This particular situation though, it f…
/r/MensRights03/06/15 10:42 AM
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Did you just blithely state that no one can know anything about anyone because living experience is deeply personal? I dunno about that, it feels a little too much like irrational skepticism. It feels naturally opposed to questioning. Now clearly, this MAN mentioned that "SOME" women have this fantasy; not all women. This was mentioned in his post, so, it feels a little disingenuous this line of dialogue. Your reasoning FEELS like a shitpost. It's hard to come to this subreddit and see such lack…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 09:38 AM
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My questions is why should a woman put their children before their spouse? What is gained, what is lost? I suppose a point some would make is that the relationship between the parents would wither sexually. Seen about a billion posts on reddit about that very thing. Largely, though, I'd say its less the child and more the parent abstaining for other reasons hidden behind the guise of the child. I remember some posts regarding after childbirth people claim there is a significant drop in a woman's…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 09:22 AM
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Yes, you see, but the laws. The risk is on the male most of the time unless you married Halle Berry.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 08:39 AM
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The question is, why do they? Assuming that is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 08:35 AM
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Why would I inherently distrust a male babysitter over a female one? Because supposedly we're more violent? There is a notable exception that many women have their violence overlooked, sexual or otherwise. There are sites ran by citizens just to track these sorts of things because they usually don't carry a record with them. Your child is safe only if you do your part and vet the person. Male or female.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 03:59 AM
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I'm not a fan of the whole consideration of "used to living a particular lifestyle."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/14 06:26 AM
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Thanks for the thought. I concerned my thoughts around it as loss of either control or the person themselves or other misc. minutia.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/14 05:36 PM
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Same ol' shit as to why these "discussions" have trouble getting off the ground floor. I got down-voted in a sub where it isn't supposed to happen for sharing an answer to which I don't, personally, follow. I'm not even RP. I just respond and this is the measured argument contrarians respond with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/14 05:32 PM
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Yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/14 06:12 AM
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The sound of it is mostly an amalgam of fear. Dread game is powerful in utilizing fear of loss to control. It is a hot button because no one in the world enjoys being manipulated. Moral difference is the only caveat to its use. Some would say its inherently wrong, while RP seems to strive for conditioned responses in their relationships/plates/whatever and see it as a tool to be used for the overall good and health in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/14 04:41 AM
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This pope, man. 10/10.
/r/MensRights24/06/14 01:40 AM
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I agree. What a sad story.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/14 07:57 PM
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You're right about him self-sacrificing. The point is, consider how many people out there ask or even demand their relationship open up and the partner reluctantly agrees for fear of loss. This isn't the only story like this and is why I have a hard time understanding polyamory as something other than selfish. The defense would say that poly isn't selfish its the people but it feels like to me that poly seems to impose that standard on those that practice it. I feel for that guy, very much. One …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/14 07:46 PM
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Depends on your thought process, I suppose. Generally "losing" things is far less painful when you have options. His wife leaving him seems far more likely considering she's had other avenues to pursue rather than putting additional effort into their relationship. I suppose the point I would make about polyarmory is that it, at its core, seems to devalue people. The women polys I know are rather less bothered by losing other SOs, with some exception. So while you can't say for sure "yes this is …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/14 07:32 PM
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The movement is clamoring for a change in how they are viewed. If you deign to respond to them, most times, its just to point out how outrageous it is to demand that people view them on par with their mentally/physically healthy counter-parts. You can ignore them, I suppose, but that removes the possibility of challenging their beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/14 07:59 AM
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A lot of the time I have found that fat women who, rather viciously, go after skinny girls, or even just smaller girls have horrendous body image issues as well as self-esteem issues. There can be no mistake, with the exception of a few rare metabolic conditions, you choose to be fat. I know because I used to BE fat and now I'm not. It is hard to respect a movement based on the concept that they choose NOT to reign in their impulse to eat and make demands that I find them as attractive as my pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 09:11 AM
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The trouble is getting evidence to support otherwise. Sociological experiments, which preface a lot of their beliefs, and their thoughts on the placement of gender in sexual relationships in courting aren't really numerous. They're essentially doing their own experiments. In terms of politically correct, you're not going to see those brands of experiments ran a lot by universities and be published. They are a counter-movement, and not likely to garner that brand of support. You have a problem wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 09:33 PM
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It is more of the same ol' "This is the internet, you must be lying." it is why these discussions usually break down.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 09:16 PM
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It feels like the two aren't mutually exclusive. Treating someone like a person and then approaching person with a sense of purpose (i.e. getting laid) are not concepts that negate each other. There is no reason someone can't be respectful and go after what they want. It's the knee jerk reactions that are the issue, where dudes go in with preconceived notions as to how/what women are that cause problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 09:13 PM
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If you can make someone happy and do something that benefits you or do nothing, which do you do?
/r/TheRedPill29/03/14 06:18 AM
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Yes, but it gets nothing done. They're not fit for debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/14 02:01 PM
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uggghn
/r/MensRights29/01/14 05:52 AM
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That is a pointed finger friend. You also have people like red-pillers and other non-associated people who are experiencing the same thing. Its not a matter of affiliation, its a matter of ease within our society to place blame on stereotypes rather than the deeper issues that caused them to feel this way in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/14 05:28 AM
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A lover scorned and all that jazz. A lot of people I know in real life seem particularly jaded from past partners. This causes them to throw out some harsh generalizations like AWALT or guys, whatever the case may be. Jaded is as jaded does.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/14 12:15 AM
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ITS TYLER, HE'S CRAZY!
/r/TheRedPill24/01/14 05:30 PM
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Yup, hypocrisy exists. Weird.
/r/TheRedPill23/01/14 10:06 AM
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It is negative in the sense that people can tailor the "RP message" to mean whatever they want it to mean, and then change it again when its challenged. As a personal philosophy sure, that sounds entirely reasonable to have an elastic sense of self and others. However, when you have a philosophy that has no stakes in its message other than key terms paired with the fact you get to fill in the blanks it makes for a very nebulous thing to argue, especially when people are upset when RPers get so t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/14 06:12 AM
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Of course, but this feels like what the discussion boils down to eventually. The "well they suck too" mentality doesn't actually address anything. Its smoke and mirrors. I get that TRP has problems and so does feminism, but pointing fingers is really moving in the opposite direction in terms of growth. I would say disregard any discussion where it revolves around finger pointing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/14 03:06 AM
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source plox
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/14 03:04 AM
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Yes, it has been stated. My point was that this spectrum is undefined or so vast that it appears to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/14 03:00 AM
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I am really the wrong person to ask, I try to turn my brain off when stereotypes show up. I would say, in this case, the nice girl would likely be considered rare. As much of the gaming side of TRP seems to be concerned with how manipulative and backhanded the lady-breed is and how men can overcome it to their profit. Personally, I know lots of nice lay-dees but what do I know, I'm probably delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/14 06:18 PM
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Hm, the philosophy presented above seems fine and all. Its the interpretation, it seems like TRP doesn't even know what they are following. They clearly judge people instead of actions, that is not to say that all of them do, but a lot of their rant posts involve slamming of some sort. Anyhow, the type of people you are speaking of also condemn the qualities of honor and true love as well, although that encapsulate it as white knighting. In fact the definition is used as someone who USES these v…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/14 06:14 PM
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I suppose, but when you say this it leaves intent out of the equation and that part is particularly important.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/14 04:02 PM
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This is a bit more...pointed than I would have stated, but yes, I agree. It feels like TRP's philosophy jukes and jives. The user's themselves seem to use shift the philosophy for their own purposes. I have a hard time pinning down what exactly is alpha or beta behavior, because its different from one person to the next. Although, I would really like to know, honestly. I have a distinct feeling that this post might devolve into CJing, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/14 01:06 PM
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Yeah. The "Nice Guy" seems less and less nice. He certainly appears to be a manipulative little jerk.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/14 12:55 PM
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It is a fairly commonplace offhand comment for women, at least around these parts, to say. Placing that most or all of the child rearing comes from the woman not the man. It's irrational and prideful.
/r/MensRights26/12/13 01:18 PM
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PLEASE!?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/13 09:15 PM
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No, where did you get that? the philosophy includes the view that certain stereotypes (or part of them) are true. Yes, the philosophy includes stereotypes that you claim are true. This is what I am suggesting. We agree. Where we disagree is that I believe that utilizing these stereotypes is counter-productive. Have you considered that the guy might be okay with that lifestyle choice? Yes, have you considered that he could be construed as a menace? He came into our ER under arrest. If you choose …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/13 01:47 PM
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This is an unsupported statement, by itself. TRP thinks that certain stereotypes are actually valid and it is refusing those stereotypes on ideological grounds that makes things worse for everyone. Yes, so the idea being that refusing on ideological grounds gives you rationale for using negative stereotypes to reinforce the philosophy. Again, TRP is not a debate forum if not for internal discussion (and, internally, there are pretty fierce disagreements). Then you may as well call it a circle-je…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/13 01:19 PM
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Which is worse? Begging or manipulating? To me begging is at least benign. Seeing someone employ manipulation would put me off in a heartbeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/13 12:21 PM
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The problem here is that TRP dictates that what they say is truth. Its not subjective truth, its absolute, at least in the way that "taking the pill" comes into play. Referring to women as over-grown teenagers is saying they're not worthy of notice. That their "tests" are just instances in which they need to be brought back in line. In what world is this a functioning relationship where you view your partner as someone who needs to be put in their place? Its that kind of philosophy that is what …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/13 11:59 AM
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Everything up until now was a debate in which you provided some interesting insight. You just threw your credibility away.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/13 10:53 AM
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No, if you truly want equality women should be included in the draft if the draft is something you believe in.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/13 10:10 AM
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I suppose this is extended from the fear that women have the power to utterly destroy lives with false rape claims. They're all over the news, and usually without the associated ties of perjury. My point would be, that in this situation their point is mired is this terrible mish-mash arguement that rape is a crime in which is poorly defined. Which, in practice, is somewhat true. It is why that most media outlets inform men to get "text consent" before having sex with someone as there are lots of…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/13 07:45 AM
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This is standard regardless. They would be charged regardless. She died so she can't be charged. Punishment served, unfortunately.
/r/TheRedPill08/12/13 05:10 AM
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It is not a matter so much of gatekeeping or that theory itself is amoral. Its the implication of how it is used. The game is amoral, that is up for debate I would say. It can be implemented in many ways, however, due to the fact that it relies heavily on manipulation and method of engagement it is far too easy for those using manipulation to turn to lies, and so forth. Now I should say that I clearly understand that women manipulate and lie as well, my point wasn't to create some gender bias. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/13 10:17 AM
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I think we're on the same page in that sense. Men do need a support network that can facilitate our needs, in society, we have forgone for a long time amounting in what you have mentioned. I'd say I draw more of an issue with the posts regarding game and women. That, to me, doesn't feel transitory, and if it were it still feels wrong. I gotta make this short as I am leaving, but the point I would make in general, that the game (which they utilize and prop up) seems to propagate an unhealthy atti…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/13 09:40 AM
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Certainly, but it feels a lot of times TRPers choose negativity and circle-jerking over education and actualization. Not to say there are no good posts on TRP as I am subscribed and have enjoyed many posts. Just saying there is a particularly nasty element, in my opinion, on that particular subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/13 09:02 AM
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A fair point. Though, I'd say a lot of redditor's on TRP have knee-jerk reactions to a lot of things, considering this post as well. A lot of TRP posts are a little backhanded and angry, IMO. Though, the philosophy of self-actualization is something I agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/13 08:55 AM
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I agree with you on the poison part of this. I want to stay away from generalizations so I will try to stick to things I have personally seen. PUAs I know employ a manipulation that isn't wholly genuine in my experience, and out of interest I would take note of how they interacted with women. Yes, on occasion it got them laid, but at the same time they almost ALWAYS showed disingenuous interest in the lady's interests, among other things, manipulating them in that way. Now, sure, you can say tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/13 10:06 AM
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It's a little weird.
/r/TheRedPill03/12/13 09:16 AM
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I find myself thinking that the red pillers I know, personally, are dejected socially. They see women as more of a resource than a partnership, that sex is the ultimate goal and having reached that goal they manage to get a one-up socially in that sense. Maybe like that use or be used situation, after so many bad experiences it just seems like it seeped into their personal philosophy. I mean, its not particularly discussion worthy, I suppose, but in my experience that is how it seems to come acr…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/13 09:51 AM
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Do you have a source for this? Because I read an article saying that willpower was finite. Ego depletion! (http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/10/mf-willpower/) Spend it wisely!
/r/seduction12/11/13 06:17 PM
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More generalizations from mired hatred for chicks, I think. In experience, I know a girl who had sex for reasons other than pleasure, but she was raped when she was really little so its not surprising that there is some damage there, what was weird was that she was open about it, which was how she rationalized it, being honest gave her permission or something. That's not typical, however, to generalize that when women sleep around they lose themselves is sort of jaded. Whenever I read TRP it alw…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 12:08 PM
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I really don't understand this at all. These are pretty large generalizations, and honestly, dangerous ones as well. Backed up by the fact that if the women gave advice they'd have been removed from the community. Moreover, that "unicorns" being first/second hand information of what, woman who act rationally or show loyalty without being spoiled indolent children? What kind of forum destroys the actual chance for discussion? I don't think he's looking for any sort of feedback, he's just looking …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 10:25 AM
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Are you going to source any of this, or....am I supposed to just take this as is? Because frankly, these "meritless claims" are the thing you appear to have issue with, the fact that they broadened the definition allows for men to come forward because it was not "forced penetration."
/r/TheRedPill09/11/13 04:40 PM
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Not necessarily. Broadening the definition opens the door for men to be included in this definition. Which is a good thing.
/r/TheRedPill09/11/13 11:50 AM
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Word, the whole concept revolves around appreciation of looks, and girls that like that kind of attention will flock there. I highly doubt you'll see a chick post. "Fuck you guys, heres tits, I don't care."
/r/TheRedPill07/11/13 05:43 PM
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Alright, here is the question then. In a perfect world, how do you imagine a /r/gonewild post to go?
/r/TheRedPill07/11/13 12:24 PM
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Either that or he loves the prospect of lording his power over her for however long they stay together.
/r/TheRedPill07/11/13 12:19 PM
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Godwin's Law is now in effect.
/r/MensRights28/10/13 08:07 AM
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I have a very specific fetish.
/r/MensRights08/10/13 01:43 PM
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Bated. Twice.
/r/MensRights08/10/13 01:02 PM
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This guy.
/r/MensRights23/09/13 04:50 AM
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