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| 0 | Objectification and degradation in porn | Discussion | Swimming-Airline-229 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/24 08:24 PM |
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| 0 | Objectification and degradation in pornIn a very broad sense, I think feminists use these terms to refer to treating women without respecting their agency, autonomy, dignity, and complexity as human beings. I could be wrong about this definition. And 100% agree with them that porn can be misused and cause men to mistreat women in this way. My question however, was about the possible effect of watching male-sub porn and imagining oneself as the objectified. Because as is widely known, objectification and degradation are deliberately b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/24 12:30 AM |
| 1 | Objectification and degradation in pornI see, I think my initial confusion was that you implied that all dom-sub relationships are unethical in light of the history of gender violence. I certainly don't disagree about the existence of abuse in much of the porn industry. My initial question, however, was about the psychological effect of porn on men. And it seems in this regard, you believe that even porn that shows men being objectified might exacerbate the issue of gender oppression saturating the media. I dont have time for more di… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/24 12:19 AM |
| 0 | Objectification and degradation in pornMan-on-man porn is often based on heterosexual porn dynamics. From the filming angles to a "feminized" as "masculinized" roles, down to pouty botox lips. That's true, but how is that inherently problematic? Straight relationships are usually based on a mutual attraction between masculine and feminine qualities as well. Does gender oppression therefore appear in all sexual relations? It would be interesting to imagine something like a post-gender sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/24 11:49 PM |
| 2 | Objectification and degradation in pornSo you think that all dom-sub relationships are problematic. I fully agree with you that these types of relationships are usually entangled with our histories and identities as social subjects. What is your opinion on women who have masochistic fantasies then, is it a result of gender trauma that must be overcome? And also, would man-on-man porn have any adverse effects on men's relations with women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/24 11:04 PM |
| 1 | Objectification and degradation in pornI see, so is your issue more with the abusive industry practices than with the psychological effect on viewers? Do you think watching man-on-man porn would be as harmful psychologically, assuming that the actors were treated ethically? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/24 10:54 PM |
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