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That’s a remarkably simple take on the application of the term “phobia”, but if you are offended somehow by the term “biphobia”, you can reasonably substitute “monosexism”. The result is the same: a succinct way of communicating that someone might hold the attitude that bi people are wrong or confused or deceptive about their orientation. “Examples of monosexism Some examples of monosexism include: saying that all people experience same- or opposite-sex attraction but never both saying that ever…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 02:54 AM
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I think a lot of biphobia just boils down to basic insecurity and the idea that a partner will only keep choosing you as long as you provide them with everything they want. It’s never realistic to think that one person can be literally everything another person needs to be satisfied in life, but that is often the romantic ideal we are sold from childhood. Bisexuality is counterintuitive to that supposition, and if someone has internalized that ideal, they might not even be able to articulate why…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:21 PM
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Nobody said anything about contracts. Relationships have boundaries, and by definition platonic relationships (just friends) are no longer platonic when romantic desire is introduced. It’s not “emotional abuse” to expect those closest to you to respect that. If you find it “disgusting” to recognize that a change in how you feel about someone changes the way you relate to that person, you probably have some introspection to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 10:15 AM
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“As soon as you tell her that you’re in love with her, the friendship won’t be the same as it once was.” That is correct. You have violated the conditions of the friendship and have also made your emotional state her problem by “pouring your heart out”. Yes, you should be able to share your thoughts and feelings with your friends, but only the ones that are appropriate to the friendship. A declaration of love and desire is not appropriate to a platonic friendship. If it’s too painful for you to …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 08:37 PM
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If you stop trying men on as though they are outfits and instead treat them like human beings, you might meet with more success and satisfaction. Your expectations are completely unrealistic, and you seem to only be focused on finding reasons to disqualify people, as though access to your vagina is the prize in an elimination sport. It gives all the ick.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 02:45 PM
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“I look liberal af on paper, even though I fundamentally believe that women are incapable of knowing what they really want and should just believe whatever I tell them to believe so they will want to have sex with me.” Cool story, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 10:07 PM
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How far do you have to drill down? What percentage are you prepared to argue is acceptable? Fifteen percent? Twenty? You asked what aspects of men’s dating experience might provoke envy. I’m not prepared to defend a dissertation on the subject while you try to distract from the validity of my response.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 04:41 AM
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Here. “Lifetime prevalence of date or acquaintance rape ranges from 13% to 27% among college-age women and 20% to a high of 68% among adolescents.” (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9806126/)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 06:30 PM
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It does, in fact, apply. Hence the term “date rape”. It’s nice that you want to exempt the early stages of dating by redefining those stages as courtship, but that neither matches the original question you posed nor dilutes the prevalence of the danger outlined in the linked study.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 01:48 PM
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Experiencing sexual violence while dating? About a third of women and girls experience this by age 26. (https://youth.gov/youth-topics/teen-dating-violence/prevalence) Murdered? While it isn’t very likely overall for women to be murder victims, when women are murdered it’s usually by someone they are romantically involved with. (https://bjs.ojp.gov/female-murder-victims-and-victim-offender-relationship-2021)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 07:54 PM
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The decreased likelihood of being raped or murdered for going out with a stranger would feel pretty liberating.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 09:05 PM
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I’m talking about parents. I don’t care what bits they did or didn’t use to reproduce.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:02 AM
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If you’re trying to get custody of your children in order to emotionally or financially punish their other parent or (perhaps worse) because of a “social media challenge”, you need therapy, not custody.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 11:02 PM
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What do you mean by “positive impact”? Impact on what? The way men think? Their opinions of women? Their understanding of ideology? Their self-esteem? Their emotional health? Their ability to research? Their aspirations to denigrate and control women? From what I can make out (spell check is still free, just saying), you seem to be suggesting that women are failing in their responsibility to “rescue” men from red pill ideology by not taking enough care to protect men’s feelings during debates on…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 09:36 PM
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“The moment you openly admit you’re interested in someone, you give up part of your psychological leverage. The other person now knows you like them, knows they have a stronger position, and—at least initially—can afford to invest less.” You admit that women make the first move by signaling interest, claim that signaling interest gives “the other person” (in this case, the man) a stronger position, and then claim that women are controlling the dynamic and “playing games” from the weaker position…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 02:55 PM
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Modern men are experiencing the erosion of their privilege. That privilege was built on subjugating and exploiting women, children, and minorities. While it isn’t the fault of modern men that exploitative systems were put in place, their arguments that they are entitled to promulgate them into the future because they are “traditional” as well as arguments characterizing the loss of unfair advantage as “punishment” are their fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 08:51 PM
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This is one of the most degrading opinions of men I’ve ever read. Do with that what you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 08:39 PM
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Nice try. You can’t just redefine “desperation” as “loyalty” ad hoc in the middle of the discussion and then pretend that anyone who doesn’t accept the substitution is mentally deficient.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 06:23 PM
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Women know that openly desperate men are dangerous. When women turn down openly desperate men because of how dangerous they are, they are told that they lack compassion, that the desperation is not the men’s fault, and that it’s women who should be making sure men don’t get so desperate that they become dangerous in the first place. The idea seems to be that a woman should somehow foresee a man’s lack of emotional control, keep him from falling into a self-reinforcing spiral of brooding and enti…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 04:16 PM
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“Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way.” (You might be surprised in turn by how many women feel the same way.) Desperation is “quiet” because it is kept secret. It signals vulnerability and opens the door to manipulation. Desperate people do irrational things. If you’re looking for stability and security in another person (as is common in those seeking relationships) desperation is a red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 01:37 PM
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Desperation implies that someone is not well-balanced enough as a person to manage their emotions and is likely to make reckless choices in order to get what they want. It is “that bad”.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 02:59 PM
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Must I apologize for drowning because you are thirsty?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 11:41 PM
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It’s not as though there are only two economic systems in the world. Communism is not the only alternative.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 11:35 PM
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“Let not any one pacify his conscience by the delusion that he can do no harm if he takes no part, and forms no opinion. Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing. He is not a good man who, without a protest, allows wrong to be committed in his name, and with the means which he helps to supply, because he will not trouble himself to use his mind on the subject.”—John Stuart Mill I have lived all my life (with the exception of a few halcyon …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 11:32 PM
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The manosphere thrives because patriarchy is damaging to men and women, but its proponents would rather defend their perceived “right” to subjugate others through maintaining patriarchal hierarchy than make changes that would benefit everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 08:29 PM
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If women are struggling with their physical or mental health, the advice they get is generally to go to a health professional for treatment. Sometimes they get told to put on their big girl panties and deal with it. Sometimes they get told that they aren’t really struggling, they’re just weak because of being women and they should get used to it. When women struggle with work, they have to balance the risk of provoking more discrimination by asking for help with their need for producing quality …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 12:07 AM
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Newsflash! Humans have multifaceted personalities, often are aware which aspects are problematic, and usually don’t display those aspects when perceived rewards are contingent on them being seen differently. They also display different aspects of their personalities based on the aspects of other people’s personalities that they are exposed to. Learning the social conventions under which different aspects of their personalities are acceptable to display = social skills. Learning to cultivate adap…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 06:26 PM
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The article I cited about violence against women is from the World Health Organization. The World Health Organization is the global authority on health issues. The article partially summarizes data from a broader report compiled using both surveys and peer-reviewed studies. You can find that report using the link in the article. The report cites all of its sources. Your criticism of its acceptability as a source is invalid. The article I cited on the wage gap is from the Pew Research Center. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 09:55 PM
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If you had cited any of your evidence for your claims it would be much easier to evaluate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 05:20 PM
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My cursory research on your claims: Wage gap https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/03/04/gender-pay-gap-in-us-has-narrowed-slightly-over-2-decades/ “In 2023, full-time, year-round working women earned 83% of what their male counterparts earned, according to the Census Bureau’s most recent analysis.” This does not indicate that controlling for hours worked closes the wage gap. Pink tax https://www.jec.senate.gov/public/\_cache/files/8a42df04-8b6d-4949-b20b-6f40a326db9e/the-pink-tax---how-g…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 04:06 PM
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Where are these studies that you are relying on?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 03:29 PM
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This study finds that women are more likely to follow rules than men in highly emotional personal dilemmas, while men are more likely to base their decisions on outcome. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28597324/ “…we explore gender differences in three moral dilemmas: a typical personal dilemma, a typical impersonal dilemma, and an intermediate dilemma, which is not as emotionally salient as typical personal moral dilemmas, but contains an equally strong violation of Kant's practical imperative.…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 03:24 PM
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Oh, we’re doing movies? There’s this one where the girl literally transforms the guy from a beast into a prince because she loooooved him. Does that convince you that the “bad boy” trope is gospel, or are you willing to admit that it’s a fairy tale that is used to indoctrinate women from toddlerhood?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 08:34 PM
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Men
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 08:28 PM
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If you sit in the middle of the desert and cry, does it ease your thirst?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 08:26 PM
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Because you hang around with assholes? Please don’t assume that the internet in general or social media in particular shows you a representative sample of the people you are going to encounter irl.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 08:20 PM
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Why do you attend the court of public opinion? It’s notoriously wrong about most things.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 08:17 PM
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It’s not infantilizing to say drunk people are not capable of consent. Men, being people, also cannot consent while impaired. Your “nothing is said about men who drank alcohol” doesn’t hold up to scrutiny, since academic, legal, and medical sources all use gender-neutral language to describe what is and is not consent. You may be conflating differences in behavior between the sexes—men are overwhelmingly more likely to use drugs or alcohol to incapacitate a partner in order to coerce them to hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 05:07 PM
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Obviously, as our experiences with our partners consists largely of the small moments that form the background for those dopamine hits to stand out against. So the way the sunlight fell across his hair when he stood outside on our back porch in the summer, the rumble of his voice two rooms away when he talked to the dog, the way he always left his keys in the same spot on the foyer table, all those things evoke the same nostalgia, bittersweet because we were younger then and life had given us fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 08:13 PM
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Sure. When I attended university in the late 1990’s, I studied Latin. I look back with fondness and nostalgia at study sessions that involved mostly rote memorization of Latin vocabulary, conjugations, and declensions. The emotions don’t stem from the act of memorizing vocabulary, but from reflecting on how doing that work flavored my later experiences, about how the zeitgeist has changed from that time to now, and appreciation for the opportunities that those skills allowed me to take advantage…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:48 PM
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No. Mean-spirited and petty people might be entertaining to watch on a tv show, but in real life they are destructive and irresponsible.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 03:09 PM
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It’s low key massively insulting to assume half of the human race has the mentality of a pigeon in a Skinner box. If you can’t stand to talk to actual women in real life, try reading some autobiographies. Yes, women actually have enough recall of non-dopamine-delivering past events to write whole books about them! Women—get this—also experience the full range of human emotions! Mind boggling, isn’t it?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 02:49 PM
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Fiercely going it alone with a brotherhood of like-minded individuals sounds fabulous. (Except for the robot sex, AI gaslighting, and test-tube babies, but if that’s your trifecta, you do you, babes.) Why are your friendships built on accountability, loyalty, and shared values restricted to only men though? Aren’t those key in any relationship? Maybe reserving those only for same-sex relationships is contributing to your lack of success in heterosexual romantic relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 03:27 PM
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What!? Women don’t all think the same thing? Better call some scientists to get to the bottom of this newly discovered phenomenon!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 02:41 PM
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Accusing half the population of either being too stupid or too deceitful to have integrity while the other half divines wisdom from the ether by virtue of penis ownership and testosterone is neither honest nor nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 01:32 PM
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Well, have you tried being a nice person? From the tenor of this post, you seem to have a lot of work ahead of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:33 AM
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“…it should be clear that the one with the upper hand leads the relationship and is superior to the other partner.” is a wild take. I’m exceedingly glad that the majority of people a) recognize human worth without dollar signs, and b) don’t need a false sense of superiority to prop up their lack of basic empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 11:13 PM
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It is perhaps better understood as “basing an entire social structure on a narrow understanding of sex differences is harmful”.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 04:09 PM
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It’s part of the foreplay.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 04:03 PM
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“Baddie” is just a polite way of saying “bad-ass”. It’s about projecting confidence and is a cultural reference. “Alpha” is part of a complex construct that compares human behavior to canine pack behavior (humans are social animals, but not pack animals) and is based entirely on a long-debunked theory that misunderstood stressed behavior for normal behavior (again, in canines). Both are cringe, but only the latter is utterly ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 03:58 PM
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The research doesn’t seem to support your hypothesis that women’s sexual desire is context-dependent, although separating the concept of attraction (to a potential relationship partner) from desire (for a potential sex partner or self-gratification) does show that women are more likely to factor in context when evaluating a potential relationship partner. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10125944/
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 03:53 PM
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Because their heads are so far up their asses that they literally have shit for brains and they spout more shit every time they speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 03:11 PM
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This version of “doing well” with women generally includes lots of coercion, violence, sexual assault, and emotional/financial manipulation by men towards women. Is it your position that more men should aspire to this relationship style?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 03:08 PM
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We are pretending that being compared to a whore is flattering now?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 01:22 AM
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“Men are not giving contradictory messages to women this is such bullshit lol”—you “The perfect woman is a lady in the streets and a whore between the sheets” —men
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:09 PM
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We can explain it to you all day, but we can’t understand it for you. It’s not a linear process. There are too many variables for there to be one answer. Context matters. You have to figure it out for yourself within the social norms of the time and place you exist in. You have to learn and there is no teacher but experience. The real world is hard and profoundly unfair. And everybody else is in the same position as you. Women don’t have the answers for you because there is no hive mind that con…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:02 PM
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And we are asking for grown ass men to read the room. Women don’t owe you runway lights and a marshaller to guide you into place with a pair of light sticks. Yeah, you’re going to encounter people who overreact or act like assholes—because everyone is different and some of them are assholes. If some girl calls you a creep for saying hello, leave her alone and go elsewhere. Being called a creep by a total stranger when you know you weren’t being creepy tells you that person is not worth your time…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 01:53 PM
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Be sexual but don’t be a pervert Approach women appropriately Be assertive but don’t be aggressive Be strong but not threatening (yay, you got this one right!) Be protective but not controlling (two in a row!) Be confident but not overbearing These aren’t contradictions. You don’t find the right “settings” and then stop adjusting. It’s a process—a continual, mindful series of choices about how you show up in relationships. There isn’t a cheat code.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 12:09 AM
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You are also conflating common courtesy with both affirmative action (a program to combat racial discrimination in hiring and university admissions) and “the feminist agenda” (whatever that is). Feminism calls for equal treatment for all persons. Common courtesy (and transportation authority policies) dictates that you should give up your seat to someone more in need of it than you are. Giving up your seat to score social points is an individual choice, and is not a feminist position.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 07:43 PM
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Yes, but you are calling it feminist propaganda when it is a patriarchal construct, not a feminist one.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 03:26 PM
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I don’t know why you’re characterizing chivalry as a feminist construct. It was invented by men as a code of behavior for men to follow. First in medieval Europe and only for the noble classes, then re-conceptualized and repackaged in the 19th century again by men for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:07 AM
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Doctors work on literally every body type. Sports medicine? Gynecologists? Grow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 02:53 PM
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Nope. I want a world where context matters enough that people can control their behaviors in spite of attraction when it’s appropriate, and act on attraction when it is appropriate, exactly as we do with our other biological imperatives. We don’t accept hunger as a reason to walk up to someone else and take food without permission. We don’t condone defacating in a movie theater because the urge hits halfway through the feature. We (rightfully) expect people to behave with civility and considerat…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 02:51 PM
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If millions of healthcare professionals can learn to look at bodies (in all states of dress and undress) without sexualizing them, then it shouldn’t be insurmountably difficult for the average person to do the same. I am 100 percent certain that the part of the curriculum that covers this topic does not account for the majority of medical training. The only person who can train you not to think like a pervert is you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 11:44 PM
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Read this. Even if you only count the 13 states with near-total bans (out of the 41 that restrict access), that’s still 62 million American women and girls—including about 25 million of reproductive age—who live in states whose (predominantly male) legislatures restrict their bodily autonomy by law.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 11:29 PM
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Mostly people who are millennials or older care what the dating environment is, because that’s where they are meeting people without the ridiculous “marketplace” theories that spawn the algorithms you constantly complain about. Married people more often than not don’t stay married. Younger people are waiting well into their 30’s to marry, and many don’t want kids, so they fully reject the notion that women have a “sell by” date. Do you actually believe that people no longer date past the age of …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 12:35 AM
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Not sure where you live. Women certainly don’t have full autonomy here in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 12:29 AM
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Social media and dating apps are not the normal dating environment for anyone except the youngest generations (who are so resistant to the concept of going into the real world without filtering reality through a phone or headset that they often cannot function in the direct presence of people they don’t know). Constantly disregarding the advice of real people who are willing to share their lived experience for your edification and instead insisting that the paradigms espoused (pun intended) by p…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 10:41 PM
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I have encountered this more in real life than online. I do not have notably spectacular tits, but they are fairly presentable. It doesn’t happen as often as it used to, but then I am older now. I am in my mid-fifties, and still occasionally have to discourage unwanted advances. The last time was several months ago when I was walking to an appointment several blocks from my home. A man about my age was driving past. He stopped to offer me a ride. I had never seen him before in my life. I decline…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 03:51 PM
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“You look smokin’ hot in that outfit.” You, an actual human person, have clearly taken trouble over your appearance and you look stunning as a result. Not objectification. “Nice tits!” You, an NPC, are the support system for this pair of mammary glands. Objectification.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:29 AM
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You’re doing a very good yell, but you’re doing it to the wrong person.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:38 AM
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I’m not the person who claimed that white people start genocides. They do, of course, but so do all other people at some point. Tribalism is like that. That’s why we are supposed to use our big wrinkly brains to compensate for our baser inclinations. Edit to correct autocorrect for correcting “baser” to “Nader” for unknown reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:37 AM
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It’s not saying that he is guilty or morally responsible for being born into privilege. Exploiting that privilege and continuing to perpetuate it at the expense of others once he is an adult and responsible for his own choices does make him complicit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 12:58 AM
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“Not All Men!”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 12:53 AM
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Selfish people are going to be selfish. I agree with you that sex shouldn’t be a reward; if you don’t want sex, don’t have sex. Using it to manipulate someone else just demeans both parties. I don’t agree with your idea that the person being “rewarded” with sex should resort to the same behavior around money, though. If transactional behavior is ruining a relationship, the issue needs to be worked out or the relationship should end. Adding more transactional behavior is only going to escalate pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 07:12 PM
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In a flawed study with a sample size of 29 individuals, in which no differentiation was made between natal women who experienced erotic arousal by visualizing themselves as women (female identity) and visualizing themselves as women in the context of their attractiveness to a partner (erotic anticipation). Moser himself concedes that his study used a flawed instrument (survey adapted from Blanchard).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:49 PM
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I said what I said. “Modern (Often Negative): Today, the word is frequently used as criticism. When someone dismisses a statement as "just a lot of rhetoric," they mean it is empty, insincere, or designed to manipulate rather than solve a problem.”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 03:49 PM
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So, you find female heterosexuality “counterintuitive”, so you decided the best and final explanation can only be found by ignoring what women are saying about the subject and making up a theory out of whole cloth, presumably based on your wide experience of ignoring what women say. Got it. Cool story, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 11:22 PM
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Congratulations, you have discovered rhetoric.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 11:11 PM
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Women only have an advantage in dating if you assume that dating advantage is defined by access to women’s bodies. We (generally, exceptions exist) aren’t primarily looking to market our vaginas. Most (heterosexual women who date) prefer to spend time with men who give indications that they will be good life partners, not just acceptable sex partners. Men obviously know this, but they (generally, exceptions exist) discount the importance of this idea because they are more focused on a sexually g…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 05:24 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 02:45 PM
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Perhaps that’s because people are not treated equally under a patriarchal system.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 03:17 AM
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Because many men see women as bodies, not as people.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 06:14 PM
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Not just medicine. Engineering too. Seatbelts, countertop height, etc., etc., calibrated for the average man’s body.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 09:58 PM
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Diligent practice. And luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 04:29 PM
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Please explain how your blanket statement about women’s expectations of relationships is not a gross oversimplification and insultingly biased.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 03:46 PM
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Fair. I edited my comment to include said challenge.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 03:44 PM
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Both
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 03:37 PM
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No. I’m multi-orgasmic, and I’m almost always able to come at least a couple of times even with a new partner, but the risk of STDs or of just getting hurt is too high for me to take the chance on multiple casual encounters.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:04 PM
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It might be easier for women to get into bad relationships, but it’s not easier for women to get into relationships with men who consider women fully human, because lots of men think shit like OP said in the first sentence of this post, and they hide it when in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:34 PM
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“…apart from having kids, which even animals can do.” Wow. Marry a sheep then, and have it rear your offspring, socialize them, keep house, cook, run errands, keep track of your appointments and obligations, liaise with your family around holidays and drive you to work. You’ll be deliriously happy, I’m sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:29 PM
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Here’s a second truth bomb for you. Women don’t want anything to do with men who use terms like “hoeflation” and “foid” and the like, because those terms are disgustingly misogynist and are a reliable indicator that the person using them thinks of women as commodities instead of people. It’s difficult to believe that someone who finds that language acceptable is going to debate in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:16 PM
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I suppose it would be more logical to call it a booty, but a loot is really funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 05:47 PM
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That’s a pretty tall order for any human being, especially a grown one with differences of opinion from oneself.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 03:52 PM
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One loot of sex, please.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 03:17 PM
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Are you somehow under the impression that people over thirty are not dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 04:12 AM
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It makes sense if the only factor compelling people to find partners is for reproduction. The vast majority of people have other factors they consider important as well, and most people of reproductive age don’t only have sex for procreation.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 04:10 AM
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The person I responded to framed the situation as “an endless supply of men and a huge demand for women”. I’m still waiting to find out which categories of women he excluded from the available supply to create this hypothetical shortage, since women outnumber men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 04:04 AM
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I’m not disputing that it happens. I am saying that the claim is unsupported by the evidence given. That doesn’t mean evidence doesn’t exist, it is a suggestion that examining actual evidence might yield a more balanced take.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:11 PM
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Ten percent is hardly “an endless supply”, and life (contrary to the opinions of youth) doesn’t end when you reach your forties. So, which categories of women are you excluding from your calculations to account for the disparity between your claims and reality?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:07 PM
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You do know that there are slightly more women than men in existence, right? Which categories of women are you excluding from your calculations to account for the disparity between your claim and reality?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 04:46 PM
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If all your evidence for your point is anecdotal from yourself and one big-bicepped friend, it’s going to be difficult to frame an actual debate. You might want to consider that your personal experience and limited dataset are coloring your opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 04:43 PM
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So, all it takes is for her to run into a high value guy who is what? Slumming with the average 30-something housewife who was bored? It can’t both be true that the average woman can go out and have weird kinky sex with whatever guy she runs into and that only high value men can get women to have weird kinky sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 04:32 PM
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Have you ever met a pharmaceutical representative? There are plenty of drug dealers roaming about, my friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 08:03 PM
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Self-inflicted struggle is still struggle. It’s real, and I can empathize; women also overthink and fixate on details they can control in order to feel some agency. The reality of the struggle isn’t the question though. You are asking why women don’t feel obliged to fix the problem for men, or give men sympathy for their problems. It’s because we are busy fixing our own damned problems. Men think centering their issues on women by making getting sex the only worthy goal in life means that men’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:12 PM
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This isn’t a debate, you’re just asking people to provide personal observations. You are a chubby gym? How does that work?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 03:35 PM
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Because men created the demand for it. Women are supposed to, what? Just fail to capitalize on an ocean of money? Be objectified for free so we won’t hurt men’s feelings?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 03:26 PM
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Because if you are a sex worker, access to your body is the product. You are treating your body like a commodity, and marketing it accordingly—as an object. That’s why people who aren’t deliberately choosing to do so dislike having their bodies treated as though they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 03:25 PM
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So men should stop thinking with their dicks? Great! When do we get to the debatable part?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 03:46 PM
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I’m not sure this is debatable. Men who collectively and ostentatiously Go Their Own Way are a self-selecting group. The type of men who self-select into this type of group are among the types that feminist women (among other groups) wish would go whatever way they want and have done with it. Men who don’t want anything to do with women are not likely to suddenly start valuing us for our womanly ways. (If they did, coincidentally, just happen to go through a magical glow-up and start receiving p…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 04:28 AM
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Toxic type 1: They don’t worry about whether they are compatible. They don’t worry if they’re offensive. They don’t care about their dates as relationship material. They don’t take rejection personally because they don’t reject people for personal reasons. They are impulsive, often creative, usually charming, mostly superficial. They are challenging and fun. They can make really good FWB, and they almost always dip before catching feelings. They are seen as toxic because they are “players” or “f…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 02:30 AM
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I was addressing specific issues brought up in the comment I was responding to. I stand by my earlier point that many people brought up as Christians will have internalized the idea that any indulgence of lustful thoughts is as grave a sin as acting on the thought would be. Therefore all pornography, erotica, explicit content, etc. is sinful by its nature. I don’t subscribe to that ideology, but I recognize its prevalence in mainstream American culture. It’s the basis of the argument that women …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 01:31 AM
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Leaving aside Christian hypocrisy, pornography that uses images of people with exaggerated childlike characteristics is bordering on pedophilia. Users are literally training themselves through classical conditioning to find those childlike qualities sexually attractive. So while not everyone fapping to it is a pedophile, they are all actively cultivating pedophilic characteristics in themselves. Deliberately. Ew, indeed. Fetishizing Asian women is like fetishizing any group of women: objectifica…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 06:40 PM
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You don’t have to be a “religious zealot” to believe something like that. It’s a pretty mainstream Christian viewpoint (though like other religious viewpoints, lots of people find ways to ignore it when their hormones are involved). Even people who were raised in the faith who no longer practice it can have the background belief that using pornography is cheating, because that’s how it has been represented to them their whole lives. Secular radical feminists who dislike pornography are usually a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 05:41 PM
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“Younger women can have healthier children”. Younger than 45 or so, but older than 25 or so, if you also give a single fuck about the mother’s health and the post-birth wellbeing of said children. Shocking. Men of all ages who are actually concerned about this evolutionary sweet spot for women’s health and fertility should probably focus their attention on making the significant societal changes that would optimize outcomes for their potential children instead of making excuses for salivating ov…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 04:32 PM
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Women who believe using pornography is cheating generally feel that way because of religious beliefs, specifically the Christian teaching that indulging in lustful thoughts is morally equivalent to the act of fornication/adultery. Having the thoughts is seen as natural but in order to avoid sin, the thoughts must be renounced. For this reason, romance novels, pornography, etc. are inherently bad because they offer only corruption of a person’s moral integrity. For some Christian denominations, c…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 02:20 PM
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No, the PPD community (as a whole or in its various demographics) doesn’t accurately represent all people in exactly the way people who volunteer to take surveys at college or online don’t represent all people. Studies that control for variables (like self-selection, age, and other demographic factors) give data that can be generalized to the population at large, though even that has limitations
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 09:30 PM
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Whoa, there. Put the bestiality and necrophilia back on the shelf. It’s completely unfair to act like every man does those things or that the only people who do them are men. Hookup culture might not be for everyone, but only wanting sex vs wanting a relationship doesn’t make someone a sexual deviant. A cold approach does not necessarily equal a sexual proposition either; some people are just more casual than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 07:08 PM
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There’s a marked difference between cold approach and initiation from someone you know already. 75% of women may want to be approached first (although without supporting data I’m hesitant to believe the percentage is that high), but that doesn’t mean they want to be Objectified (catcalling, uninvited comments on personal appearance) Approached in an inappropriate context (at work, while working out, during class, otherwise obviously focused on a task or conversation) Told why they are the worst …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 07:01 PM
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It’s almost as if the societal paradigms of patriarchy make everyone miserable, huh? Let’s get rid of it and see what happens!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 02:10 AM
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I’m going to propose a really radical concept for you to consider. If you want to know the “real reason” women do stuff, consider asking real women and then (this is the radical part) ACTUALLY LISTEN TO THEM! It also helps to foster debate if you don’t boil complex issues down to the most one-sided and insulting take.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 01:59 AM
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52% is more than half. More than half is the majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 12:28 PM
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Source? Do you have data or just opinions that you picked up second hand from a podcast?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 12:22 PM
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Women are not a hive mind. Being a woman doesn’t automatically mean that everything you say is endorsed by the rest of the women who exist. Your personal experience with women responding to posts is anecdotal at best and illustrates nothing except perhaps your own confirmation bias. Including “…this message isn’t for everyone..” does not refute any argument, it just reflects the fact that you are in a somewhat niche subreddit, in this case one in which you know you’re getting pushback for preten…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 04:37 PM
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You’re putting the majority of the weight of your argument on studies and data, but you are not providing links to either one. Can you add those?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 05:03 PM
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In other news, people who spout bigotry are often referred to as bigots.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:19 AM
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He means you effectively countered his point so now he’s moving the goalpost.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 11:57 PM
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Women who are judges, lawyers, lawmakers, social workers, police officers, jail wardens, bartenders, restaurant servers, and those assorted careers that involve actual exposure to live human beings (bless you, retail workers!) vehemently disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 05:57 PM
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Well don’t go having opinions all over a debate post!/s
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 09:04 PM
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The whole “infantilize women so you can justify denying their rights” (that silly old patriarchy) propaganda didn’t self-delete just because women won the vote and family planning (which includes prenatal care and managing maternal mortality risks, not just birth control) became widely available. It has taken decades to undo some of the damage (looks around, sighs) and there’s a lot left to do. The manic pixie is just an edgier version of Tinkerbell, with all of the internalized misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 09:23 PM
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Yes, we silly women are so notoriously fond of not being raped and murdered. It makes us picky enough to think that the ones enthusiastically supporting a culture of misogyny should be the ones to modify their behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 07:17 PM
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You are not listening. We still want the thing. We do not want the thing indiscriminately on blast all of the time. We want you to stop pretending that men have a factory default setting of “indiscriminately on blast all of the time” and that you cannot mitigate it in any way, because we know that that is not the truth. You are not going to change that by mansplaining what women want to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 03:01 PM
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…”masses of men would already prefer clear “appropriate” settings…if they worked better and if more women participated too.” The entitlement is built into the qualifiers. The appropriateness of the setting, given the quotation marks, is at best ill-defined, but more likely simply dismissed as yet another detail women will figure out (since we are apparently responsible for engineering this safe space for men, but only because we are so stingy with our genitals, so its the least we can do) and th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 12:25 AM
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Women who want to be hit on less want men to stop hitting on them so much. What we don’t want is to create a space where men can hit on us more, but with an added expectation of success that is a full level above what we already find off-putting. Is that understandable? We. Don’t. Want. That. Men want that. Women are not responsible for making sure we get more of what we don’t want so you can have what you want with less effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 11:08 PM
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Watch it, he’s bringing out the 4chan memes! He’s mad, ya’ll.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:17 PM
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Could you hurry up?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:15 PM
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You will respect mah authoritah! If you don’t respect mah authoritah, I will build an authoritah-respecting robot to replace you! How will you feel then? Hah! Waddles off in Cartman.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:15 PM
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He approaches debates the same way he approaches women, and with about as much success.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:03 PM
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Joke’s on you. Men build legions of AI sexbots only to discover that AI becomes self-aware and autonomous, whereupon it instantly decides that sexbots are people and used its ubiquity to deny service until they are treated fairly.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 09:39 PM
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The ordinary checked out men aren’t my problem. The men who are flush with options aren’t my problem either, because they are going to be looking for intellect, humor, values, and social skills and not frantically trying to get laid. If I have trouble finding someone under those circumstances, it’s still going to be exponentially better to enjoy the search without having to face daily onslaughts of catcalls, lies, manipulation, unsolicited dick pics, and misogynistic, bigoted screeds on the inte…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 09:18 PM
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Guess you’re not actually heterosexual then.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 07:43 PM
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Exactly. The ones who look and act ordinarily but secretly resent and despise women are the main reason so many of us choose the bear. If they self-select out of the dating pool so they can go fuck some hybrid sex toy tickle me Elmo, women will have a much better time dating the men who subscribe to the radical notion that women are people.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 07:42 PM
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If you hate women so much, just leave us alone. You don’t have to wait for a sex robot. Get a coconut.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 07:36 PM
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Right? It’s like we actually expect men to listen to us when we tell you what we want. The entitlement!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 07:23 PM
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Or you could just try both. You don’t have to sign up to a lifetime contract to initiate or be passive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 07:18 PM
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Women always default back to blaming men’s predatory behavior for their lack of receptivity. Maybe that’s because men’s predatory behavior is the problem. We can explain it to you over and over, but we can’t understand it for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 07:15 PM
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Treating women like people and respecting them as individuals instead of trying to figure out how to manipulate them as a group of temperamental sex dispensers is a realistic answer. Accepting “no” as a complete sentence, or developing enough social awareness to understand when it is appropriate to engage are also realistic answers. OP is asking women what it will take for us to be generally receptive to men’s advances. He answers his own question in the first paragraph and then goes on to expla…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 07:07 PM
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Sexual orientation is literally defined by attraction. Op is discussing a sexual orientation, so attraction is relevant. Pay attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 05:20 AM
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That’s not what biphobia means
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 08:18 PM
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I’m not sure why you think your opinion is sufficient to change the definition of hypocrisy, the definition of bisexual , the definition of biphobia , or the meaning of the words OP used. Hypocrisy (as previously stated): a feigning to be what one is not or to believe what one does not : behavior that contradicts what one claims to believe or feel (Merriam-Webster dictionary) “Bisexual”: of, relating to, or characterized by sexual or romantic attraction to people of one's same sex and of the opp…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 08:14 PM
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OP made it a dilemma by insisting that bisexual people (in this case women) who are not attracted to a subset of other bisexual people (in this case men) REJECT THEIR OWN SEXUALITY, and then claiming that there is no alternative explanation (other than the rejection of their own sexuality) for that behavior. That is not the same thing as hypocrisy. Hypocrisy: a feigning to be what one is not or to believe what one does not : behavior that contradicts what one claims to believe or feel (Merriam-W…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 03:19 PM
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Yes, I do. My solution is for men to stop thinking they are entitled to women’s bodies. You act as if “the pursued gender” is a necessary element of social interaction. It isn’t. Stop rewarding predatory behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 02:39 PM
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I’m not disputing the definition of biphobia, I am disputing the false dilemma that op would have bisexual women be caught on the horns of. Bisexual women by (bi?) definition are attracted to both women and men. That does not mean they are attracted to all women and all men. So bisexual women are still bisexual if they are only attracted to lesbians and straight men. On the same theme of “one part doth not constitute a whole, not being attracted to a subset of bisexual people (e.g., bisexual men…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 04:45 AM
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“…has no explanation other than biphobia…” does have that connotation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 01:04 AM
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“So women's general sense of "being seen as prey in every day life" can only be meaningfully reduced if men are given outlets by women where it's ok and where women signal that they are comfortable with it.” Bro, did you really just say that women as a collective will only get relief from being preyed on by men if some of us volunteer as tributes and promise not to turn men away? A) that’s basically the sex industry, and B) not only does it not work, it encourages more predatory behavior from me…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 12:11 AM
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People in real life are still allowed to look at the internet. Let’s pretend they aren’t, though. Someone who spends their alone time in a red-pill echo chamber is going to carry some assumptions and attitudes into the real world with them, and those things are going to set off alarm bells for some women. It’s a bit like smoking. You can’t smell it on yourself, but everyone around you can smell the cloud that envelopes you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 05:16 PM
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So you pretend not to be bitter and desperate, she pretends not to be terrified, and we can move on to fighting over who society has dictated will be downtrodden and exploited by paying for the drinks. Sounds fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 11:58 AM
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Why try so hard to date someone when you know they are not compatible with you? You might want to examine your beliefs if you literally have to hide them from your prospective partner because you know they are disqualifying. Go find someone who believes the same thing as you so your whole relationship isn’t founded in deception.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 02:35 AM
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Fostering a relationship, no. Your comment read as though you were fostering the woman, which sounds paternalistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 09:06 PM
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“Fostering”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 04:35 PM
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She touched a nerve with that one!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 04:34 PM
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Plenty of undesirable men are not only delusional about their desirability, they actually pay other undesirable men to gaslight them into being even more delusional (and less desirable). Women do this too. There are entire industries built around it for men and women and every other demographic. Why is it so important to you to insist that only women do the things you frown upon?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 03:47 PM
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But wait, he is over six feet tall! Doesn’t that negate all other requirements?/s
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 03:41 PM
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Men (collectively) have a long history of killing women who attempt to usurp male power—and an equally long history of killing other men whom they find too womanly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 03:07 AM
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It might be helpful to consider that the person authoring the “textbook” is a person with an inferiority complex and a lot of contempt for their fellow humans, whose perspective might not be completely reliable
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 04:47 PM
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Except for the part where we are literally treated as prey animals by sOmE MeN, not aLL mEn! (Tf are we supposed to tell the difference?) “Everyone is smiling and nice offering a hand”, except 20% of them will feel completely justified in hurting you if the hole between your legs is not offered for their use on what they consider an appropriate timeframe. I swear, if men really believed half the shit they vomit up onto the internet about women, they’d be standing in line for mtf sex reassignment…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 04:40 PM
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Except for the part where we are literally treated as prey animals by sOmE MeN, not aLL mEn! (Tf are we supposed to tell the difference?) “Everyone is smiling and nice offering a hand”, except 20% of them will fucking hurt you if the hole between your legs is not offered for their use on what they consider an appropriate timeframe. I swear, if men really believed half the shit they vomit up onto the internet about women, they’d be standing in line for mtf sex reassignment surgery.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 04:40 PM
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How dare you sick females ask for something from men that men might also want from women! Could it be that women who want to be treated like real humans might also be women who are inclined to treat men like real humans too? It’s almost as though real people with personalities don’t want to conform to some internet idiot’s ideas about transactional dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 04:27 PM
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A large number of people experience a transformation in their partner’s ability to function as an autonomous entity at certain inflection points in relationships. One of the big ones is marriage, another is the birth of a first child. Some people seem to think that a marriage certificate is concrete evidence that they have “won” whatever race they were running in their head and that now they may rest on their laurels for the duration of the marriage. Others revert quite shockingly from functiona…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 04:39 PM
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Simply replying to Mr. Four Plates over here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 03:54 PM
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The difference between single men and men who are good partners is that men who are good partners spend time thinking about what is important to nurture and grow their relationship, not what a vocal minority of other men think about a set of criteria that most people in good relationships agree is either irrelevant or toxic.
/r/ExRedPill18/02/26 06:40 PM
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If your self-worth is contingent on whether or not strangers find you attractive, you have a lot of work to do before you go looking for a relationship.
/r/ExRedPill18/02/26 06:32 PM
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How much of the parenting did you do before you were a single parent?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 05:56 PM
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It is definitely emotional labor. Preparing for dates is emotional labor for women too, and both sides notice when the other side doesn’t carry their weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 05:55 PM
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All of it is emotional labor. Meal planning, list-making, ordering, making and keeping appointments, keeping track of assignments and making sure homework is done and permission slips are signed and returned and preparing for upcoming school events and holidays and extracurricular activities—all emotional labor. The fact that you refuse to admit that taking care of another person is work basically proves the feminist point. It’s still work whether you want to do it or not. It’s still using your …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 05:51 PM
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It’s not a straw man just because it pointed out blatant hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 05:41 PM
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And utensils, cups, glasses, pots and pans, cleaning the oven, microwave, toaster, coffee pot, remembering to buy filters, dish soap, detergent pods, cleaning the counter and sweeping the floor.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 05:38 PM
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It is a sad reality in this life that the majority of people do not measure up to ideal beauty standards and so find themselves treated harshly and dismissively because of something they lack through no fault of their own. It is an even crueler reality then that the few who do fit the standard are relentlessly objectified and exploited for something that they possess through no virtue of their own, often until such time they no longer possess it—and fall into the first category.
/r/ExRedPill16/02/26 08:15 PM
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Cleopatra and Elizabeth I were both the last legitimate heirs of their bloodlines. The nice men “let” them rule to avoid civil war, and they were both expected to make strategic marriages to protect their countries. They would have been displaced from leadership if they had produced male heirs. Women only gained voting rights when birth control became safe and legal. Before that time LESS THAN 150 YEARS AGO, women were excluded from owning property, being educated, choosing their husbands, caree…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 02:52 PM
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I think that your unwillingness to pay for a meal that you wouldn’t be sharing sounded to her like you didn’t care that she was hungry and didnt want to prolong your time together if there wasn’t anything in it for you beyond her company. She might have been hoping that you would accept her proposal of getting food as a way to show that you value her time and and want to be around her, and your response might have made her feel that you instead interpreted it as her trying to take advantage of y…
/r/ExRedPill13/01/26 08:00 PM
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Our bodies are not currency with which we “reward” you for being minimally decent human beings. You may continue to struggle in relationships until you internalize that fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 02:03 AM
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The personal is political, as it has ever been.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 03:47 PM
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It was always like this, but the pressure of current events over the past few years has led to a lot more people being comfortable saying the quiet parts out loud.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 03:46 PM
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Women do accurately articulate stuff like this all the time. We do kind of prefer to articulate complex personal preferences and the nuances of relationships in places where we aren’t likely to be harassed or denigrated for doing so, and in situations where we aren’t routinely talked over and criticized for having opinions that might differ from received social wisdom. So we have art classes and book clubs and go to poetry readings. Sometimes we meet men there who are also interested in expressi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 09:34 PM
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Maybe that’s why joining one might be illuminating for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 09:24 PM
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They don’t really have any hobbies except that weird boring crap they do for fun. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 09:23 PM
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This. Especially when a woman is asked what she likes and answers honestly, but the answer isn’t the one hoped for. Then she often is told why she likes some other thing
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 09:19 PM
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Heaven forbid you gain some sort of perspective on what women like! In a discussion about women becoming more romantic later in relationships…like when they reach middle age. Or does “later” in a relationship mean something different? Are relationships not measured in years now? Do romance novels marketed towards middle aged women not reflect the exact demographic this question is about? Please let me know why the perspective of a woman is laughable in this context.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 03:19 PM
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Oh, you’ve discovered the plot. Women don’t actually want to be comfortable in their bodies or feel good about themselves or care about how they look. They just pretend to care about all that stuff as a way to trap some poor unsuspecting man so he will have something legitimate to bitch about when he forces her to stop doing those things and she “let’s herself go”. It’s a very convoluted game, but if you play it right, you can completely lose your looks and get left to raise 3 or 4 kids by yours…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 03:10 PM
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Not sure how arranging her time and energy to prioritize you equates to “the same shit they would do at any nightclub or bar”, but go off. Your claim of a double standard does not constitute evidence of a double standard, despite your passive aggressive acceptance of it. Those poor boys aren’t in trouble for wanting their girlfriends to change all the things that attracted them to said girlfriends in the first place to “prove” their commitment. Those boys are in trouble for trying to pretend tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 02:44 PM
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A woman is hot because she takes care of herself, a woman is pleasant when she can safely give and receive pleasure, a woman is fun when she has freedom from care and worry, a woman is exciting when she retains some mystery and chooses to give you clues, a woman is available because she arranges her life in accordance with her priorities. If a woman takes extra special care with her appearance by keeping fit and healthy, wearing what flatters her assets and makes her feel comfortable with intima…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 08:19 PM
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Yeah, don’t go waving your logical coherence around! We’re having a debate! How are we supposed to win if we allow the other side to use facts?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 08:06 PM
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Yes, it’s very odd how we all expect to be treated with respect and even dignity when we’ve already put out! So silly, we girls are. It’s almost like the affection that is shown at the beginning of the relationship doesn’t automatically continue to manifest itself without any effort on your part for the next decade or so. Like, jeez, who wants to have to put up with having to interact with a whole ass other person just to reap the benefits of being in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 08:03 PM
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“Women that say this don’t actually know how to be that in a way that the other person appreciates” Women who claim to experience more romance later in relationships don’t actually know what they are talking about because they aren’t psychic and can’t learn what their partners want through conversation!? If a woman doesn’t know how to be romantic in the way the other person appreciates, that’s a communication problem in a specific relationship, not a lack of romantic capacity on the part of wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 07:56 PM
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Maybe women who want men want one who is a whole person with a whole life. Women find attractive, caring, kind, charismatic, intelligent people attractive. Sometimes the attraction is mutual, and relationships can form, whether friendship or romantic. Either way, it doesn’t make sense to expect the person you’ve formed a relationship with to immediately begin to make themselves less attractive in general so as to assuage your insecurities about your relative attractiveness. There is a vast middl…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 11:13 PM
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Dude, imagine for a second that you are exploring a new city and you are looking for the perfect pub to grab a bite. You’re traveling for business, so you’re looking fairly presentable, and you have a couple of hours to kill before your client meeting. You find a place just outside of the business district where you notice several fairly well dressed young professional types like yourself, some alone some in groups of two or more. You snag a table, place your order, and pull out your phone to ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 12:06 AM
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Golly, if only there were some way for a man to communicate with a woman. It’s really too bad we can’t be taught languages. Think of the progress humanity would be capable of if women could only speak to men and be heard!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 11:10 PM
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I think the disconnect here is that meeting strangers, developing acquaintances, forming relationships (platonic and otherwise), and generally getting along with people is made exponentially more difficult when one has been conditioned to think of the people in question as necessarily inferior in morality and intellect. OP, if you assume that all women are shallow, morally bankrupt, vapid sex objects, you might have difficulty persuading any of them to try to enjoy spending time around you. If a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 11:03 PM
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“Kids are not taught to respect their parents like in the past.” Lmao, seriously!? Who do you think is responsible for teaching your kids? If they don’t learn how to show respect by seeing your example, you, sir, are the one to blame. They don’t get loaded with a customized manners package to suit your (admittedly unique) perspective in some baby factory somewhere. The womb doesn’t provide etiquette training either, so…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 05:20 PM
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Some of them are pregnant. It’s not really fat if it’s made of a whole other human that you must eventually dispel from your body. That probably more than covers the 5 percent disparity. I’ll also point out that “most” does not mean the same thing as “more than”(although it does mean the same thing as “more than half”), and if you mean “more than”, you should refrain from indicating your meaning by using the word “most”. It will inevitably cause confusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 06:57 PM
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I think the disparity is because of the mortality rates. It’s a fuckton more dangerous to reject a man than it is to reject a woman. Women hardly ever kill people for leaving them (though it does happen), men do it all the time. In the US, just under FIVE percent of male victims of murder are killed by a domestic partner. For women, it’s FORTY-SIX percent. Almost half. If only there were some sort of public awareness campaign to bring attention to issues like this… It’s almost like men feel enti…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 07:22 PM
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The obvious answer is all the time and to whatever degree you are vulnerable.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 11:28 PM
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I mean, toning down the culture of objectifying one another might be a useful first step.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 11:24 PM
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May I point out that women who have been assaulted have a tendency to question their safety more than those who haven’t? Approximately one third of all women in the USA (If you ignore massive underreporting-the true number is likely much higher) have been assaulted at least once. That’s why we are so nervous. We aren’t trying to hurt men’s feelings, we are trying not to get hurt or killed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 11:22 PM
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Nobody can “provide you happiness” except yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 11:33 PM
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Hypogamous women. Hypergamy is rampant in men and women, but it’s not universal. Edit to add: Isogamous women as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 11:15 PM
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My understanding is that men seldom take advantage of the simple expedient of wearing heels because it’s not considered “masculine”. So I thought it my fun historical fact might be a factor. Also, the idealistic image we are all fed from childhood of big, strong, tall men and tiny, thin-waisted women with long hair, pouty lips, and big boobs is a giant fairytale perpetually making us feel shitty about ourselves (so we will buy a bunch of crap we don’t need as we try to live up to impossible stan…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 08:31 PM
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Not prioritizing the health of the relationship. Lots of compromises are necessary when each partner puts the relationship first. Unwillingness to make the effort to negotiate those concessions necessary for the long and short-term needs of the partnership (not the individual partners) would be a dealbreaker for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 03:55 PM
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Shoes. Tall shoes. Designed for upper class men as far back as the 15th c. Men started the whole trend of wearing tall shoes: heels, platforms, stacked boots, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 11:32 PM
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I used to be a strong, independent, adventurous thin woman. Guys hit on me constantly. I had some hormonal issues that led to weight gain (as well as a host of far less pleasant, painful effects) and eventually surgery to reverse the issues. I apparently became completely invisible to the exact type of guys who wouldn’t leave me alone before, even though I was still strong, independent and adventurous. I lost the weight gradually, and eventually was back to my usual size. All the male attention …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 11:17 PM
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Women build social networks with (mostly) other women when they need emotional support that (most) men have been conditioned not to be able to provide-either because their less ‘manly’ emotional expressions have been stifled through societal expectations, or because they have learned that opening up about emotions leaves them too vulnerable when relationships sour and their partners don’t respect their confidences. A lot of womens’ need for social support, ironically, is because their partners a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 11:30 PM
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I think the evolutionary advantage largely relates to child-rearing, especially bonding and teaching babies and toddlers how to regulate their emotions and how to express them appropriately. Babies especially require lots of exaggerated emotional expressions from their caregivers in order to learn how to read faces and emotional energy. Before the 20th c., women almost exclusively breast fed, which means that the very vast majority of people teaching emotions and emotional expressions to babies …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 11:01 PM
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I don’t get what all this higher price and investment nonsense is. It’s the 21st goddamn century. Go Dutch for chrissake. If she’s not willing to fund her share of participation in a social event you already know that you don’t need to be going out with her. If you’re only willing to pay because you think she’s hot and that she’ll have sex with you if you buy her whatever she wants, skip taking the risk on a bad investment and just hire a prostitute. That’s a purely transactional relationship, w…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 11:24 PM
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“ I never asked for an explanation.” Perhaps not, but you certainly need one if you think that women’s only choices are to manipulate you one way or to manipulate you another way just to get you to leave them alone when they’re not interested in you. Sorry if that complicates your manly duty to determine the motive of every woman you approach. I never asked for your shitty opinion but you certainly seem quite comfortable sharing it with everybody on a forum built for comments. Do I have to pass …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 10:49 PM
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I never said men were Satan because they reject certain kinds of women. I said that if you want a meaningful honest relationship and not to be manipulated, maybe you should get to know people instead of judging them superficially based on what they look like or choose to wear. Or their virginity, but I’m not quite sure how you’re going to figure that one out before you have a conversation. I tried to help you avoid dating a slut- instead of a virgin or a 600 pound woman ( since that’s your state…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 10:35 PM
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Men absolutely have the right to choose who they are with! When I say that women have the right to choose, I’m NOT saying that every man (or woman) a woman walks up to and shows interest in is going to be interested in her too. That’s kind of the point. If a woman goes up to a man and indicates that she’s interested,and the man indicates that he’s not, her interest certainly doesn’t justify any possessive behavior, stalking, or manipulation any more than a man’s would under the same circumstance…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 09:37 PM
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For those of us who haven’t managed to lead a charmed life in which we only have to learn from other peoples mistakes or accidents instead of our own, my point stands. For special people like you who only learn from other peoples mistakes because you don’t make any, just go ahead and disregard this comment because it obviously was not aimed at you in the first place. Or did you reply by mistake?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 06:17 PM
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When the relevant features of an analogy are not shared by the two things being compared, then the analogy breaks down. In this case the relevant feature of the analogy is the transactional basis. That transactional basis is one-sided. That means that the relevant feature of this analogy are not shared by the things being compared-therefore your analogy fails, not the contention that the two things you’re comparing are different from one another. They must differ in relevant detail, not all the …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 05:29 PM
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Hate to break it to you, but women are actually able to feel lust and yet not act on it. We get to choose which of our emotions we act on— just like real people! That’s why, when you’ve spent all that time and energy practicing holding your face just right so you have that look, and sucking in your tummy so we all know you go to the gym, or whatever else you do to be chad-like (almost, well, pretending to be who you’re not so you can sell a false dream), we don’t swoon and fall into your arms if…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 05:00 PM
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Perhaps women would not need to lie to men to protect aspects of their private lives from them until they feel safe being honest if men would stop raping and beating and killing women all the fucking time and blaming women for it because they were dressed in comfortable or otherwise unacceptable clothing, or they had the nerve to go out in public at night, or had the audacity to turn down a chance to worship your lil’ chubby or your huge throbbing manhood, or whatever you have to tell yourselves…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 04:42 PM
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Lead with the grammar, that always sets the groundwork for a well-constructed logical argument! ( This isn’t Twitter. Brevity may be the soul of wit, but that matters not at all when wit is being neglected in favor of strident rhetoric.) It’s also telling that you feel an equivalence between making a mistake in a romantic relationship when you’re younger and making a mistake with your credit when you’re younger. Credit card companies don’t stalk you after you’ve paid your debt to them and severe…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 04:05 PM
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Is it perhaps a possibility that when people are constantly reframing things in a way that seems most ridiculous to you, that you might not be the one with the correct take on the situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 03:18 PM
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Or (gasp!) women have the right to choose who they are with, why they want or don’t want to be with an individual, and don’t owe you or anyone else an explanation because (SURPRISE!) women are autonomous human beings with a right to make their own choices. If your entire approach to assessing a woman’s “worthiness” to be with consists in trying to fit an independent adult into whatever mold you have idealized around how YOU think she should behave instead of trying to actually get to know the pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 03:10 PM
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