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Question for RedPillTHeShinyHObbiest/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 04:32 AM
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I've said several times in this thread I don't think it's always the guy's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/15 01:06 AM
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Thomas Swift had a background in advocating for Irish equality. Roosh doesn't have a background for advocating against rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 10:07 PM
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We can easily turn this around, no one owes me a relationship, it's a privilege, A relationship is a contract between two people. You aren't owed one, but once you're in one, both parties should keep up their end of the deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 10:02 PM
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I don't vote in PPD unless somebody says something really awesome or really, really terrible. So I didn't downvote you. TRP has a lot of good things. I will not deny this. But there's so much bad wrapped up in there that I can't recommend it as a good source for learning more about social interaction. Hell, I'd advise people to stay away.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 09:59 PM
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but when has a woman ever truly empathized with a man that's socially inept? I had a discussion with my sister the other day about a guy I know who's having a tough time with women. She said that she feels bad for him, because he's such a nice guy, but he just gets intimidated around somebody he likes and assumes the worst of everything. I'd call that empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 09:57 PM
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Hypothetical scenarios have their place. The thing is, you must tie them into reality. In this particular hypothetical, yes, Jim is getting screwed over. But, since there is no tie to reality, the scenario is useless. All it does is demonstrate the potential that some men are being fucked over. It does not demonstrate that it happens, and it certainly does not prove that it's the only thing that can happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 09:55 PM
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You do realize that this hypothetical is not exiting in a vacuum, right? It's being posted by a man who views himself as representative of a vile, misogynistic hell-hole. That fact is going to skew our perspectives. We know the OP sees himself as Jim, and we also know that no moral person could ever condone TRP. Thus, we assume that there must be more to the scenario we're not seeing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 09:52 PM
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I can accept that in his hypothetical scenario it is not Jim's fault. If that hypothetical scenario is supposed to represent the general case, then it's a failure as a scenario. But, as is, yes: it's not Jim's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 09:50 PM
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You're applying morality to pre-rational imperatives like most bloopers... People are not animals. You have reason, and you can use this reason to overcome almost any biological imperative (besides the need for food, water, and shelter.) People don't get a free pass on morality because they're genetically predisposed to act a certain way, except in extreme cases of mental illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 09:49 PM
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I fully accept that it is sometimes the woman's fault. Hell, I've had friends in relationships with shitty women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 09:45 PM
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because a lot of the origin for the large-scale problems faced by these men is feminism I'll disagree marginally on this point. Feminism has certainly harmed men, but it's also done quite a bit to help them. Of course, those benefits are mainly indirect, so I suppose your mileage may vary. or inter-gender relations Yes, I'll also agree on this point. I do think you're ignoring other men, though. A lot of problems men face—most especially how hard it is for male victims of practically anything to…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 06:08 PM
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I know a few TRP'd people in real life. Two of them were immediately obvious to me before I actually talked with them, just do to the way they treated women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 06:08 PM
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I do agree with some of TRP's points. I'll freely admit that. The problem is that TRP bundles up good points like "Nobody owes you anything" and "you have to work to get a good relationship" with shit like "women are children" and "women are incapable of empathy" and "the higher a women's partner count, the lower her ability to bond is." You don't have to wrap your self-help in a bunch of horrible misogynistic bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 06:02 PM
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I'm staggering from the number of fallacies in this post. You proceed to name not one single personal fallacy. Nice. No, I created the scenario, exactly as is, with the man not being at fault. You came in and posited that it must be his fault, somehow. Look, it's a fucking hypothetical scenario. It's not real. If you were making a purely hypothetical scenario, then fine, my contribution was pretty useless. But I have a feeling you intended to write a scenario which was in some way representative…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 06:00 PM
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For one thing, one of the most popular TRP bloggers thinks rape should be fucking legal. Now, I'll be fair, not all of TRP advocates being an actual rapist. Hell, most of them don't. Plenty of them just advocate treating women like children and all sorts of bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 05:53 PM
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You're making the mistake of assuming the man isn't at fault. There's nothing I dislike more than somebody who doesn't take responsibility for their actions. Whether it's the TRPer insisting that he only can't get laid because all women are total whores as opposed to his lack of attractiveness and boring personality or the feminist who insists that she didn't get a job because she was a woman as opposed to her lack of qualifications and unprofessional dress, you can always find somebody who insi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 05:47 PM
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Look. If I wrote a story where Jim was always secretly a rapist until a brave woman warrior cut off his penis and made him his docile bitch, which was the only way he could be happy, you'd probably be pretty fucking upset about that. Just because somebody wrote a hypothetical scenario doesn't mean it matches reality. It's a fucking story. There's no data to back it up. Statistically, hypothetical scenarios are less useful than anecdotes, and anecdotes are completely worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 05:42 PM
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Everybody in the world tells people bullshit. I heard stuff about how I can be "anything I wanted" when I was growing up, but guess what: I'm never going to be a famous artist, I'm never going to be a famous singer, and I'm never going to be a male model. Part of being in society is reading between the lines. When people say "just be yourself," they mean "don't pretend to be something you're not because you're going to have to drop the act eventually and nobody likes being lied to." The obvious …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 05:40 PM
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I'm aware that this happens. However, I reject the notion that anybody who's going to TRP is just a poor man being screwed by society. 90% of them—hell, 99% of them—only had themselves to blame. Normally I'd be sympathetic, but when their response to their own failures is to try and become an abusive rapist so they can prey on weak women, I lose all of that sympathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 05:38 PM
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It's a hypothetical story which was intended to metaphorically match reality. I didn't think it matched reality, so I wrote my own version of the story.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 05:36 PM
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I'm a dude. I perceive weak people like this, for the record. I could just as easily write a story about Sally, who is a "free spirit" that never learns to do anything useful and lives in poverty as a result.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 05:35 PM
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to right your master thesis I hope not, if they're going to make mistakes like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 05:04 PM
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Jim "works" at Bob's widget factory. He considers himself a hard worker, even though he does almost nothing right. He shows up to work early every day and leaves late every night, but he spends all of his time sitting at his desk and waiting for the widgets to come to him. At no point does he try to improve his ability to make widgets, his knowledge of widget-making theory, or his ability to communicate in groups for the purposes of widget-making. Despite being quite bad at his job, Jim blames l…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 05:01 PM
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The problem is that guns aren't people. When you say "All guns are like that," you're not dehumanizing a group of people. Especially half the people on Earth. Look, words are important. Using "All Women are Like That" shifts the blame to womankind as a whole, and not just the subset that is shitty. Tell me, do you think "All men are rapists" is a good phrase? No, I imagine you don't—because you know you're not a rapist (I hope) and it makes you angry you're being called one. Hell, it makes me an…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 03:48 AM
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BP people in real life, are liberals, SJWs, feminists, leftists, and people who are on team woman. Uh... Yeah, no. I'm not an ultra-conservative, but I am very much not a fucking leftist or a feminist. I think trigger warnings are retarded, know that the wage gap isn't actually 33% (more like 5%), and don't think men are evil. Hell, I used to be very active on /r/TumblrInAction before it went to shit. The people BP appears to work on are often very confused, struggling with identity, and are oft…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 03:43 AM
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That's not a core tenant of anything besides tumblr. None of those are.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/15 02:27 PM
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feminism is about allowing female freedom of sex, even at the expense of a husband who preferred monogomous sex. In this guy's particular view. Tell me: if I were to write a post in which I described myself beating the shit out of my wife and tying her up in the basement so I can continually beat the shit out of her with no chance of escaping, including making sure at least one of her legs is always broken, then spent the majority of the post saying "And that's how I discovered what it really me…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/15 05:58 AM
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Nobody has said that you need to date sluts. I do think that referring to people with different choices to you as "sluts" is kind of retarded, though. It speaks of close-mindedness and an inability to recognize that not everybody has the same attitudes you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/15 05:51 AM
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I've called out women for being manipulative before. Not on the internet—to their face.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 08:11 PM
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Both people in most "nice guy" situations are assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 07:53 PM
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No. You do realize that claiming all women are innocent and serene is sexism, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 12:35 AM
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Do men feel a certain need to come off as unaffected by things. Yes. It's called gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 10:21 PM
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I know a chick that was told she was fat, and got really depressed and started eating more. I know another chick who got really mad at the person who called her fat (an ex) and was not motivated to improve herself at all. Look, two anecdotes! Not that it matters, because anecdotal evidence is not evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 10:18 PM
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I never said to tell them they're beautiful. I just said "don't be a dick." Your post also didn't need the second half at all. It's completely irreverent to the discussion and obvious projecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 10:17 PM
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Anecdotal evidence is worthless. Your brother is not a representative sample of humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 08:09 PM
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You can say to a woman that she's fat. That's 100% within your legal rights. Is it kind of an asshole thing to do? Yes. Is it also an asshole thing to do to men? Also yes. "You're a fatass" isn't going to motivate anybody, with a few rare exceptions. You gotta be more subtle and kinder than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 03:52 PM
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Promiscuous, indiscriminate sex with a lot of men damages women, from my experience and from that of others, and from my observations. The plural of anecdotes is not data.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/15 12:55 AM
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Unless you're an ugly girl. Or an attractive man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/15 12:54 AM
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Where do morals come from? If you know the answer to this question, please contact your nearest philosopher. You'll solve a debate that's been going on for literally thousands of years. I do think that it's wrong in most moral frameworks. Utilitarianism would hold that the pleasure you get from sex is less than the pleasure of cheating, religious-based-systems almost universally say god dislikes adultery, and ancient Greek systems would claim that the purpose of a relationship is to continue and…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 10:11 PM
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doesn't seem to mentally damage him. Source? Also, source for the implication that it does to women? Once a girl is done with a guy, she is DONE. I have a female friend who was so heartbroken that a guy broke up with her that she didn't try to date anybody else for two years. They use sex to get things they want. They use sex to manipulate the men around them. I can probably agree that happens. Now, it would be great if you proved that all women with multiple partners are necessarily doing it fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 09:00 PM
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It's not the same for a man to have a lot of sex with different women as it is for a woman to have a lot of sex with different men. Why, exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 08:44 PM
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Let me use an analogy. Bob and Jim own a company. You know Bob, but you do not know Jim. Bob and Jim's company owns a very expensive truck, which is key to the survival of the company. One day, Bob comes up to you and offers to give you it for free. You know that Bob has every right to do this, as acting CEO of the company. But you also know that, without that truck, the company will go out of business and Jim will become homeless. Personally, I would not take the truck. Even though I don't know…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 08:43 PM
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Yes. Well, I would act it out under controlled conditions which were determined ahead of time. But I would be fucking terrified if it happened to me in real life with somebody I didn't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 08:37 PM
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Sure, some people are going to continue to whine and try to get things censored. Obviously, that should be combated. Thankfully the US has a pretty damn high standard of Free Speech.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 06:21 AM
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Then that particular instance is censorship. Doesn't invalidate all the other time it was not censorship.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 04:01 AM
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Please give one example of a post on /r/thebluepill that disgusts you. I'm legitimately curious as to what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 01:09 AM
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Gah, fuck it, I'll bite. If you can't see the merit behind Gamergate and what's really going on, you are a part of the problem. Ok, look, let me instantly ruin any chances I have of getting supported by anybody: I do see a shred of merit in GamerGate. I'm not a huge fan of Quinn. I think Sarkesian is often wrong—I mean, fuck, look at her review of "Monster" by Kanye, in which she completely misses the fucking point of the song but goes on to declare Mr. West a woman-hater anyway. So I see why so…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 10:30 PM
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getting an impression of somebody's manliness from like 5 reddit comments I wish I was surprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/15 11:53 PM
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You don't strike me as the most masculine man I've ever countered Wasn't aware I've met you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/15 05:01 PM
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0% RP, 100% BP. You can be masculine without being a twat.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/15 12:32 PM
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women should be the more unstable outlet in any coupling John, a man with borderline personality disorder, bipolar, and schizophrenia dates a normal woman. It's absolutely ridiculous to suggest that women will always be more unstable then men, because that means that every woman must be less stable than the least stable man. On a broader level your point makes no sense. How do you get from "women found to laugh more" to women must be unstable?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 06:20 PM
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To be fair, this very post we're commenting on is comparing "stranger saying mean things to me on the Internet" as the moral equivalent of "trying to learn effective emotional abuse tactics to better control women for sexual purposes." It's hard to have a debate when somebody's basic premise on reality and society is different from yours. Hell, I even try. Look through my history a bit, I always put in actual constructive comments along with the snark.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 06:13 PM
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I was referring to some branches of radical feminism, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 06:08 PM
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I'm going to be real: At a certain point somebody becomes too stupid to argue with. If people were willing to have an honest debate I will. Unfortunately, every single TRPer has just started saying "lol beta" and "I bet Chad Thundercock is fucking your bitch." So at some point you just gotta try to piss people off. Same thing when arguing with some retard that thinks they're secretly a fox on the inside and the only reason they're not successful is a worldwide conspiracy to keep rich white women…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 04:12 AM
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Ok, technically every reason is a legitimate reason, nobody is entitled to sex. This is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 06:21 AM
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TRP is not the best method. TRP may be the easiest method, if you are willing to sacrifice basically everything about yourself to get laid. If that's the cast, fuck, please go and buy a hooker. Really. She has working genitals and it will be just as fulfilling as spending hours of your life learning to emotionally manipulate a woman with no self-esteem into sleeping with you. Now, if you want to become the kind of person who can get laid naturally, you have to actually improve yourself. You know…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 04:45 AM
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The same reason there are people on /r/coontown who legitimately believe that all black people are inferior: some people are just that stupid. I said it was the quickest. I didn't say it was quick.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 04:42 AM
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Monkeys are primates just like humans, but humans don't pick fleas from each other's hair, swing from vines, or walk like apes. Just because we're close doesn't mean we're identical. Real science involves tests and studies. Not wild speculation. Being an "alpha" does get you more sex. Congradu-fucking-lations, you can sleep with women who have low confidence by being a douchebag. Next you'll tell me a lot of money makes it easier to sleep with prostitutes! Nobody likes spineless foreveralone "ni…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 04:36 AM
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Evolutionary Psychology may be a valid scientific field. Saying "look, Gorillas chose who to fuck like this, bet humans do the same thing" isn't science. I could easily make the claim that "birds females go after the most colorful male, so the easiest way to get laid is to dress up in multicolored robes and puff your chest out a lot." Being confident and socially aware is a great way to get laid, yes. That doesn't make whatever justifications people are pulling out of their ass for why that is s…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 04:30 AM
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Not being interesting and worthwhile alone. Being interesting, worthwhile, attractive, and confident can. There's ways to have sex outside of TRP "philosophy."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 03:41 AM
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I wouldn't delete and censor TRP. Exposing bad ideas to the public is the quickest way to kill them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 03:34 AM
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Aw, c'mon. That's going too far. Most TRPers are at least marginally more attractive than the elephant man.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 03:33 AM
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You could always keep your partner around by being an interesting, worthwhile human being. Then again, when you look at the people on TRP, you realize pretty quickly their only hope is shit like a "dread game."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 02:32 AM
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It's not rape, neccisarily (if "divorce" is sufficiently threatening and/or enough emotional grooming is present it could be.) But if you have to fucking threaten divorce to have sex with your wife, you're in a pretty broken relationship. Or you're hideous. Or really bad at sex. Even worse, if your wife has a legitimate reason not to have sex and you can't accept that, going so far as threatening to end the relationship immediately, you probably don't even give a little bit of a shit about your …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 02:10 AM
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It was a joke. Somebody's projecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/15 02:02 PM
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A woman who has slept around likely has slept with guys that are better than you. Maybe better than you. And yeah, cheating would be easier. Doesn't matter if she's not the kind of person who'd cheat in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/15 05:05 AM
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A lot of men are insecure and afraid that other guys will be better at sex than they are. They think a virgin would be better, since then she doesn't have to compare them to anybody else. There's some stereotypes that women who slept around a lot are more likely to cheat. It's mostly the insecurity, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/15 04:30 AM
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It's a combination of factors. Smugness. A lot of TRPers think that they have it all figured out when it comes to relationships. They're the evolution of the "nice guy." The vast majority of them tried being spineless, dickless wet blankets to try and get laid, realized that didn't work, then desperately tried to be "alpha" as an alternate tactic. It's technically an improvement, but 99% of them still view sex as the holy grail of life. They're dishonest. Look, when you constantly compare women …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/15 12:27 AM
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It has nothing to do with gender. Plenty of men are incredibly over-sensitive to non-PC speech. Some of the most politically correct people I know are male. It's a political stance. It has nothing to do with gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 09:32 PM
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I've got no hard evidence of it seems to be more prevalent than single men sleeping with married women. I have no hard evidence, but in my experience single guys sleep with married women more often. The only person who ever cheated (as far as I'm aware) in my extended family was a women. It's almost like anecdotal evidence and "my feelings" aren't real evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 09:30 PM
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that they don't want to have sex with almost every woman in sight I really don't think you want to have sex with every women you see. If the first thought you have when looking at this meth addict is "goddamn would fuck 10/10" you either have strange tastes or way too big of a sex drive. I would say, in my personal experience, that some women do have significantly higher standards than most guys. But I've also known a fair amount of women who will go for dudes I personally find hideous.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 06:15 PM
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