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This is not earth-shattering news to women, nor are most women denying this. We have been shouting from the rooftops that women are, in fact, people, just like men, for ages now. Some people do bad things. It's part of human nature that a percentage of people--men and women alike--will display anti-social behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 12:15 PM
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It makes you wonder how many users are actually bots designed to create even more division, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 07:25 PM
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Committed relationships don't necessarily mean marriages. Lots of people are in long-term relationships without being married.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:24 PM
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Even in the past, most relationships didn't usually begin through the man cold-approaching the woman, who, at the time, was a complete stranger. That was never the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 03:01 PM
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No, only women could be committed by their husbands. Wives had no authority to commit their husbands. The American History of Silencing Women Through Psychiatry
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 06:18 PM
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These comments from you are just horrifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:01 PM
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Notice he didn't respond to your question. I think we both know his answer. Oh, the hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:02 PM
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I just went through a divorce. Yes, both parents have to ask for custody. The person you are responding doesn't know what they are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 09:23 PM
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I’ve had a decent number of partners, and I completely agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 05:15 PM
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I have enough faith in men that most will not go around raping and enslaving women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:35 PM
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The average age gap in relationships is only 2-3 years. The majority of relationships do not have a significant age gap. Most women do not want to date much older men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 08:01 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:20 PM
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All of my long-term relationships (5 in total) were with men who started out as friends. Now, these guys weren't super close friends in the sense that we would talk every day and hang out on a one-on-one basis, but they were guys that I knew through my social circles and we would often hang out and party on the weekends in mixed-gender groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:19 PM
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For me, it’s very telling how so many men claim that they don’t care about a woman’s education or career, or sometimes if she even has a job. For those men (and it seems to be a lot of them), a woman’s looks and her “agreeableness” (sometimes phrased differently) are all they care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 05:46 PM
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I’m so sorry for your experiences and the way your experiences have been invalidated at times. It’s not misandrist to point out things that happened to you, regardless of what some in the sub might say.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 04:58 PM
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As a survivor of both sexual assault and domestic violence, nothing infuriates me more than people who downplay our lived experiences or treat us as though we are paranoid or irrational. When you say that it’s “frustrating AF,” I couldn’t agree more. I’ve experienced violence men who were both intimate partners and men who were complete strangers to me. I don’t hate all men or even think the majority of men are bad, but it irritates me to no end when my experiences (and those of other women) are…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 04:32 PM
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Wow, what a charmer you are. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 08:25 PM
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I have a son who is 16. He and his friends think Clavicular is utterly ridiculous and make fun of him. He told me that nobody takes him seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 10:11 PM
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Exactly. And 13 years olds aren't typically even in high school yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 10:26 AM
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You do realize that at age 26, some people are just getting started in their careers, right? Take someone who went to graduate or law school. They very likely aren't going to have the income just yet to be financially self-sufficient. And that's just one example.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 08:03 PM
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So you would be okay with being in a potentially sexless marriage? Because if the woman doesn't genuinely desire you and want to be with you, you're mostly going to have issues in the bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 07:54 PM
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I have had similar experiences. All of my long-term relationships started out as casual encounters or FWBs, and the men made it well known that they wanted something more.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 08:23 PM
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No, because they want consistent and free access to sex through a girlfriend or a wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 09:01 PM
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He is very clearly a man who hates women, which is why it's weird that he'd want to date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 06:08 PM
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A lot of Gen X would have been raised by Silent Gen parents. I'm Gen X but I'm at the youngest end of the generation having been born in 1980, and my parents are older Boomers.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 10:30 PM
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I am a thin woman who is a mother. I take an antidepressant to ease my anxiety, which I've dealt with for all of my adult life. You have have some really ignorant assumptions about this matter. It's not only fat, childless, single women who are on antidepressants.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 08:55 PM
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Many middle-aged women take antidepressants to help with the depression and anxiety that often comes along with perimenopause and menopause.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 08:52 PM
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According to US census data, only 14.9% of women aged 45 and older are childless. In 2014, 16.7% of women aged 45 and older were childless, so there are actually fewer childless women now than there were a decade ago. Women are simply having kids later in life, and they are having fewer children--often just 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 08:46 PM
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He, of course, does not have one single care about how things were going for women back then. In at least one comment here, he says that he hopes, or looks forward to, the Islamic takeover of the West. So he's fantasizing about women suffering under Sharia law. Such a standup gentleman; I can't imagine why women don't like him. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 06:44 PM
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Do you think that this is new/recent behavior? Before feminism, men sometimes used to have whole ass second families that were kept secret. Or sometimes the other woman (and often children) were known to the men's wives, but there really wasn't much the wives could do about it. Even if the woman could prove fault in divorce court due to infidelity, which wasn't an easy feat, it was extremely difficult back then for women to survive financially on their own (and contrary to popular belief, alimon…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 06:34 PM
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Does your country provide equal rights and opportunities for women? If not, then of course women have to pair of with men like you because they don't have much choice in the matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 06:30 PM
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Exactly. There's a very good reason why all of the dating apps skew heavily toward male users. If the apps were so great, far more women would use them and the percentages of men and women would be more equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 06:27 PM
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The Whatever and Fresh & Fit podcasts, along with their groups on various social media sites that attract a great deal of commentary from people, usually men who are saying misogynistic things
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 09:56 PM
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PPD usually does a demographics survey every year. From what I can recall, most of the men are indeed single. I'm not sure about neurodivergent.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 10:24 PM
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I’m from the Midwest and see fat couples—even morbidly obese couples—literally everywhere I go all the time. It’s actually quite common.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:20 PM
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Female breadwinners account for 16% of marriages in the US, as of 2023, I believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 03:50 PM
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It’s actually not an uncommon scenario, usually when the wife is a SAHM. I’m in a lot of mom/women groups on various social media, and the amount of women who experience financial abuse is not low. Some housewives/SAHMs don’t even get an allowance, and they have to essentially beg for anything they need, let alone want.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 03:49 PM
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Gang members and criminals are often surrounded by women who are drug addicts, prostitutes, or criminals themselves. Those women are far more likely than other women to be promiscuous and engage in impulsive, risk-taking behavior. So it's really no surprise that the men you described have far more sex partners than the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 08:58 PM
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Lol It's super common for middle-aged divorced women to forego dating altogether. They often don't want anything to do with men. And many never married older women are perfectly content with their friendships, too. It's the middle-aged divorced men and older single, never married men who are more often desperate for relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 10:03 PM
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And the guy you’re responding doesn’t need to worry about physical and sexual assault from those random women pestering him nearly as much as women do when random men pester them trying to get their attention. For women, it’s sometimes viewed as threatening, depending on the level of harassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 08:59 PM
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But this doesn't really have anything to do with casual sex, specifically. Lots of men aren't virgins and have been in long-term serious relationships but haven't had loads of casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 10:19 PM
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"most are also fine waiting for sex and below average men would wait indefinitely" Hahahaha, no. The majority of men, regardless of their looks, are not okay with waiting to have sex beyond a couple of dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 10:32 PM
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I don't think that's due to lack of success in dating for the women who've been previously married or partnered much of the time. It's common for divorced women, in particular, to opt out of dating altogether. I see it all the time in some of the divorce groups I'm a part of.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 10:31 PM
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Doesn't the data show that even though men swipe on a much higher percentage of women, they send the majority of their messages to the most attractive women? Men even outright say that they swipe on a large number of women without even looking at their profiles because it's a "numbers game." Then if they get matches, they filter out the women they don't like. So I don't think swiping patterns alone really tell too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 10:12 PM
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What? You can't possibly be serious. Financial problems are one of the top reasons for depression and unhappiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 06:36 PM
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I’ve never had a man I’ve dated ask about my body count or past relationship experience in the early stages of dating. This seems to be a new trend, because I’m in my mid-forties, and nobody outside of those within certain religious communities would ask such questions 20 or 30 years ago. If a guy I was newly dating now asked about my body count, I wouldn’t lie but I wouldn’t answer, either, because I would know right then and there that he wasn’t someone I’d want to date. It screams either very…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 11:55 AM
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"Women should be relegated to a role of official spectators while men show their gladiatorial prowess, because that's what they already do." Your power fantasies are something else, man. Men like you are just irate that women no longer need to tether themselves to awful guys in order to survive. So you can view women as inferior all you want, but the majority of men have moved on from the backward ass mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 10:24 PM
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What did he say that was wrong? He wants an equal partner, which presumably means that both partners show respect to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 08:53 PM
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Of course TermAggravating isn't referring to every woman. But she's right in saying that the majority of women don't want that antiquated male leader/female submissive dynamic. Most women, in fact, desire an egalitarian dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 11:07 AM
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You couldn't be more wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 08:33 PM
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Most women know that a large percentage of men only care about looks. You're trying to spin this as a positive for women, and it's absolutely not. Nobody wants a partner who only cares about their looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 08:09 PM
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It's primarily concerned with socioeconomic and education levels but I've never seen it defined as level of physical attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 12:01 AM
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Interesting. With how common it is for men to have major anger problems and punch holes in the wall, scream, or assault their partners, I'm not buying that many men don't act like children by throwing major tantrums when they don't get their way.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 11:33 PM
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It's so very obvious that a lot of the guys in this sub have never been in a relationship. Most relationships these days are egalitarian, but to hear these guys talk, you'd think they are some statistical anomaly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 11:20 PM
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Respect is a two-way street. One of the reasons the divorce rate is high is that women don’t feel valued and respected in their marriages. You might insist on leading, but lost women aren’t interested in that dynamic. And for good reason. We aren’t children and don’t need our romantic relationships to be modeled after a parent-child dynamic where one person has authority over the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 11:04 PM
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What? You can't be serious. Many guys actually strive to be ran-through hoes. They eagerly pursue casual sex with as many willing partners as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 11:28 PM
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Everyone is addicted to social media--women and men both.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 09:47 PM
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I’m not sure which country you’re from, but the US doesn’t really have parental leave to speak of. There’s FMLA, but it’s only for a maximum of 12 weeks, and companies don’t have to pay anything during that time so many women have to go back to work extremely soon (sometimes within just days of giving birth). Every other developed country in the world offers robust, paid leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 03:16 PM
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Online Dating--The dating apps
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 08:13 PM
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I don't think anyone is really disputing that women, on average, have far more options on OLD. So what? What do women need to be accountable for? Be specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 04:20 PM
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This is terrible advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 11:16 PM
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No, absolutely not. I prefer a fit man myself (and yes, I'm also thin and fit). But if a guy has mostly photos of himself in the gym (which is relatively common), then he's likely to be arrogant. And this is especially true if he appears to be roided out.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 10:15 PM
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Doubtful. The reality is that men are simply hornier than women, which is why men outnumber women on the dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 10:09 PM
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There is a woman who runs a popular group called Burned Haystack Method that aims to do exactly what you're suggesting--teaching other women how to analyze men's OLD profiles and messages for details and rhetoric that might indicate red flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 10:06 PM
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People can meet through social media or other online spaces, too, not just OLD.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 11:23 PM
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Correction: Men took away women's rights, and then gave them back over the past hundred years or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 07:59 PM
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You do realize that people are different, and just because you are unhappy single doesn't mean that all other single women are unhappy too, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 10:24 PM
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If it was a fundamental need to survive, then all of these women who are single would voluntarily date whichever men are available. But they aren't choosing doing that. If they can't find a man they really want to date, they remain single. So this shows that romantic relationships aren't a fundamental need.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 10:16 PM
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Dating is supposed to be discriminatory. At no time throughout history have all people partnered up with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 10:09 PM
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If women are such failures, then why are young women outperforming men in education and the workforce?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:12 PM
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I really don’t think casual sex was rare in the 70s and 80s at all. In fact, I think there more people engaging in casual sex then than now.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:47 PM
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No it’s not. Most people do not want their romantic relationships to resemble that of a parent-child relationship. It’s fucking weird. It’s also weird that some people think the man should be the leader in the relationship. Again, this resembles a parent-child dynamic and seems totally inappropriate for an adult relationship. Most of us want egalitarian relationships where both partners pull their own weight and work together to compromise on matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:28 PM
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I think OP might be from a different culture where long-term relationships without marriage are rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 09:41 PM
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This is so true. I’ve always dated guys who’d been with plenty of women, and none of them cared about body count.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 11:21 PM
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This is absolutely ridiculous. Women are not interchangeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 10:07 PM
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I'm a woman who has had a decent number of sex partners. The majority of casual encounters I had were during my party years, and the guys were mostly just average looking. They just happened to party like I did and so we would just sort of find each other or know each other as acquaintances through our mutual friend groups. I certainly wasn't going to clubs looking for "Chads." I just liked to have a good time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 09:55 PM
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There are similar groups for men to discuss women they've dated.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:34 PM
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No it's not. I've never once had a guy I'm dating ask me about my sexual past. It's a very weird and unusual thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 10:17 PM
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Why do so many of you guys here assume that all women have had a bunch of hookups in their past?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 10:15 PM
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I don't think Lilith is talking about most men in her posts. She is instead referring to men who are red-pilled and black-pilled or men who identify with manosphere rhetoric.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 10:03 PM
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As a thin woman, I can assure you that my life is far from easy. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:18 PM
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New research from February 2025 shows that men are more likely to leave their sick wives. Why More Marriages End When Wives Become Ill Than When Husbands Do | Psychology Today
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 09:57 PM
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"Men should lead, protect, and provide for their families without complaint and women should manage the household and be a companion for their husbands without complaint." No. That's what YOU want for your relationship, but many, if not most, women these days, do not want that dynamic, and that's okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 09:44 PM
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It’s not different at all. You’re just a hypocrite.
/r/RPChristians27/01/26 11:38 AM
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Most states have gone to default 50/50 custody, unless one of the parents has proven to be abusive or has documented substance abuse problems. There are different ways to implement 50/50 custody. A common way is by doing week-on/week-off (child goes to one parent for a week, and then the other parent for a week, and then continue on the pattern).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 11:54 PM
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This isn't true. Men who actually fight for custody receive it like 90% of the time. The truth is that a whole lot of men don't fight for custody.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 11:53 PM
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You have to prioritize an infant over everything else. There is literally no other way around it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 11:45 PM
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If the only way that a civilization can continue is by oppressing and subjugating half the population, then it deserves to die out. The only way forward is for men to evolve and embrace egalitarian values.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 10:22 PM
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You seem to be unaware that women can both be mothers and work, right? In fact, the majority of mothers in Western countries, at least, work. It's not the either/or situation that so many of you red pillers and tradcons insist upon. I, a mother, have always worked, and my son is a fantastic, well-rounded teenager.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 10:04 PM
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No. Most young women are liberal, and the majority are refusing to date conservative men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 09:34 PM
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I'm sure he's pissed about feminism and women's rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 09:27 PM
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My ex-husband and I were acquaintances (or friends of friends, I guess you could say) first before we got together. We partied together in a big mixed-gender group. I ended up hooking up with him one night after a party. We were pretty much inseparable after that and ended up marrying a couple years later. So, no, my experience does not mesh with this theory you’re asking about. I would never marry a guy I wasn’t extremely attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 11:19 AM
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Don’t women in Afghanistan (at least) require a male chaperone to move about outside their homes?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 11:11 PM
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In the United States, at least, conservatives are hell-bent on regressing on women's rights and making some strides in doing so, so feminism is probably more important now than it's been in 20 years or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 09:50 PM
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But your partner had a life before you came along.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 12:50 PM
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You're right. I didn't have sex with him very often toward the end. Did you miss the part where I'm sick? I have severe GI issues, including constant nausea and vomiting. That makes sex extremely difficult, if not impossible. Unless he wanted to end up covered in my vomit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 10:32 AM
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It's pretty straightforward, my dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 10:30 AM
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I am a divorced single mom. Just because I coparent with my ex-husband doesn't mean I'm not a single mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 10:16 AM
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You seem to be under the impression that most single moms had kids with men they had one-night stands with or very brief relationships with. In fact, a very significant percentage of single mothers were once married. Many were married to their exes for many years before divorce happened for any number of reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 11:13 PM
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I am a single mother because my husband had an affair and left me for the woman after I got sick with a chronic health condition. So I didn’t “choose” to become a single mom. He left after 18 years together, and I had no inclination that he would ever do such a thing. Edit: I just wanted to add that my ex and I share 50/50 custody of our son. So it’s not like my son is without his dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 11:09 PM
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Damn, dude. My ex loved using my toys on me. You sound kind of lame, to be honest. Also, for the record, I don’t care about a guy watching porn. Ill even watch it with him sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 09:02 PM
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As a woman who has been with a decent number of men in my life, I can assure you that a big dick is not enough to guarantee good sex. Some of the best sex I've ever had has been with guys who were average in size.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 07:45 PM
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It was actually the opposite for me as a women as I got older.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 07:40 PM
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I can tell you that young men are also interested in casual relationships with older women. It’s very much a thing now.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 07:15 PM
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I'm very sorry for your loss.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 07:06 PM
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About 3 months. But I wasn't trying to date or sleep with anyone, and I wasn't socializing at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 03:16 AM
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We can probably conceive of rare scenarios where someone who is otherwise a fairly normal person might react a certain way and end up murdering someone. With rape, I don't think there is literally any scenario where something like that accidentally or justifiably happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 10:44 PM
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It's not actually very common in the real world for men to freak out over a woman's past (assuming she wasn't like a prostitute, porn star, or something extreme). In fact, it's not even common for guys to ask about "body count" outside of men who are very religious or young and inexperienced themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 10:39 PM
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Seriously. This has to be one of the top 5 most unhinged posts I’ve ever read here. I have secondhand embarrassment. This dude is in dire need of touching grass.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 12:56 PM
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This isn't true. In many European countries, the norm is for couples to go 50/50, right from the very first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 02:25 PM
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She's not wrong. You must just be oblivious to this fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 04:32 PM
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Yes, for most of history post-agricultural revolution, both spouses and children over a certain age contributed to farming duties.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 04:28 PM
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What's TRM?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 06:11 PM
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She is very obviously trolling and making fun of so-called "high-value alpha males" who make ridiculous lists like this. It's amazing how many of you don't recognize trolling and rage-baiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 06:09 PM
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Interesting. There are other studies that suggest that both men lie more often than women, and that men are better at telling lies. Face-to-Face Lying: Gender and Motivation to Deceive - PMC Men Are More Selfishly Dishonest Than Women | Psychology Today
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 11:37 AM
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Grindr crashes whenever there is a conservation convention, so I'm pretty sure a lot of conservative men simply aren't openly revealing that they are gay or bi.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 05:53 PM
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It always amuses me how so many conservatives view liberals as having that stereotypical look of "short blue hair, covered in tattoos, septum ring, and obese." Like, I am a liberal but men often think I'm a country-music-loving conservative because I look very stereotypically feminine--I'm thin/toned with long blonde-ish hair, and I like to wear makeup and curl my hair. Most of the liberal women I know don't look like what these guys in this sub imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 05:43 PM
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20 years ago, I was attacked while jogging on a bike path and nearly raped. My attacker was a typical middle-aged white guy. Fortunately, someone else came long the path as the guy was on top of me and pulled him off, or I don't know if I would have only been raped or possibly even murdered. My attacker fled but was later apprehended and went on to serve 3.5 years in prison.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 04:22 PM
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I lurk in a couple of conservative tradwife groups on FB. You're absolutely spot-on with conservatives thinking "it couldn't happen to me." I see this play out frequently in those groups when someone mentions if other stay-at-home moms/tradwives have prepared ahead in the event of a potential future divorce. Many women will claim that they don't need to have a backup plan in place because they chose the right husbands and so divorce will never happen to them. Of course, nobody goes into marriage…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 04:13 PM
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I am a 5'4", 120-pound woman, and I am mentally ill (severe anxiety). Plenty of other thinner women are mentally ill as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 11:22 AM
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Are you sure about that? People can’t control their age, and many men here sure love to say that women are “expired” and lose value after age 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 09:05 PM
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"The overwhelming majority of women(at least US based) love Older men." If this were the case, then there would be a lot more marriages and relationships with an age gap of 10 or more years, but there aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 06:12 PM
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I agree with this. Both men and women are in their prime between their mid-twenties and mid-thirties.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 12:35 PM
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The same exact thing happened to me. I'm in several divorce support groups on FB, and women who were SAHMs prior to divorce almost always struggle to a very significant extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 11:24 PM
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If having kids and raising them is as important as men claim, then why don't men like you offer to take on that role while your wife works?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 09:39 PM
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Alimony is only awarded in 10% of divorces now. And even if it is awarded, it's often not that much money because your average breadwinner husband doesn't make that much to begin with. The majority of women who were SAHMs and were later faced with divorce struggle a great deal, at least for the first few years after the divorce (if not longer).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 12:20 AM
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What do you mean no man is undesirable? Of course there are undesirable men AND women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 11:59 PM
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No. Patriarchy developed after the agricultural revolution some 10,000 - 12,000 years ago. Humans have existed for at least 200,000 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 02:17 PM
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Most women work to the end of their pregnancy and take a short maternity leave (in the US at least). I took 8 weeks off, which were fully paid by company, and then I was right back to work. Not all companies pay employees during their maternity leave, but my point still stands that most women just take a short, company-approved leave from work. Working women aren't taking years off and losing their skills set or damaging their chances at a promotion or raise.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 06:10 PM
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I recently went through a divorce. I joined a number of divorce support groups, some of which were women only. Everything you’ve said is 100% how reality plays out for the majority of women who were SAHMs/homemakers. Alimony is relatively rare. And even when it’s awarded, it’s not much money because the average man doesn’t earn that much money in the first place. The only women making it big after divorce are the former wives of very wealthy men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 11:42 AM
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More and more women are dating men who are less educated and earn less money.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 10:06 PM
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"And you get laid more by being redpill" Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 10:02 PM
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Women are far less likely to sleep with a man they hate than men are to sleep with a woman they hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 09:56 PM
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Bull shit. Men just like to get laid, and many will enter into relationships solely for the purpose of having a stead supply of sex. That's not love, my dude. That's not to say all men are like that, as there are many who partner for genuine love and companionship. But plenty partner for sex and/or for having a live-in maid and cook.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 07:40 PM
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In reality, sex accounts for a small percentage of time in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 05:17 PM
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I can assure you that many unattractive men are looking for casual sex only, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 02:02 PM
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And what's really bizarre is that those men who are dismissive about women's education and careers are very often the same men who complain about divorce laws and worry about being "divorce-raped" in the event of a potential future divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 07:53 PM
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Most marriages and long-term relationships are dual income, with both partners contributing to bill paying. I have no idea how you're not aware of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 07:46 PM
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Young women are not having as much sex as before. According to recent studies, sexlessness has risen for both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 06:04 PM
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Nobody thinks you should be upset with those deadbeat fathers as long as you aren't one of those guys who complains about single mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 09:36 PM
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Except that the dating apps are still wildly imbalanced with far more men than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 07:42 PM
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Exactly. It’s a myth that most men who want custody don’t get it. In 90% of cases where the father asks for custody, he gets it (meaning either 50/50 joint custody or full custody).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 12:37 PM
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Newer data suggests that this trend has changed. Egalitarian couples now have the most sex. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/meet-catch-and-keep/201804/are-you-an-egalitarian-couple From the study cited: "Egalitarian couples reported having the most sex — nearly 7 times per month — which was a significantly greater frequency than conventional or counter-conventional couples. This was an exciting finding, given that data from the 1990s showed sexual frequency was lowest for those in egalit…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 07:36 PM
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And even though stay-at-home moms aren't rare, they aren't the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 11:08 PM
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In Afghanistan, more women than men commit suicide, whereas in the vast majority of countries, men commit more suicides. It's not at all surprising, given the hellish circumstances in which the Afghan women live.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 10:48 PM
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I just wanted to chime in here and say that I don't think it's super common for a man to be sent to jail for non-payment of child support. While yes, it can and has happened, there are many, many men who are years behind in child support payments and haven't served a day in jail. I'm in various mom groups in FB and regularly see women say that their ex-husbands/baby daddies haven't paid a dime in support in years but have had no repercussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 10:28 PM
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Far fewer relationships today are transactional since many women have their careers and income and don't need to partner up for survival.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 08:40 PM
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And her husband or boyfriend knows that she genuinely likes him and isn't with him because she needs money to survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 07:35 PM
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Maybe not always, but it’s often tied to anxiety.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 04:06 PM
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This is one of the most accurate comments I've ever read in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 02:37 PM
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Alimony is only awarded in 10% of divorces. And in most of those cases, it’s short-term alimony. Lifetime alimony is very rarely awarded anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 04:20 PM
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Are you not aware that divorced people pay child support, too?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 08:02 PM
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I'm a part of several divorce support groups, and its not super uncommon for spouses to utilize the services of a forensic accounting firm during divorce proceedings precisely because people try to hide assets.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 05:41 PM
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The virginity rates for both men and women have climbed in recent years, but it's not as bad as you're suggesting. 10% of men ages 22-34 are virgins, whereas 7% of women in that same age cohort are virgins. Number of Virgins in America Hits Record High - Newsweek
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 03:39 PM
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Many women who regularly participate in this sub are mothers, including myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 11:36 AM
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"Data so overwhelmingly shows majority of women are dating for short term relationships..." Where is this data? I have seen data that shows more women are delaying marriage and kids, but that doesn't automatically mean they are all prioritizing short-term relationships (hookups and FWBs). Some of those women are likely in long-term, committed relationships (without marriage), and still others are choosing not to date at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 03:59 PM
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Yeah, it's well known that blue-collar workplaces, in particular, which employ mostly men, are often incredibly toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 10:57 AM
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There are people in the highest positions of the U.S. government right now trying to roll back women's rights, so feminism is still very much needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 06:03 PM
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You are not being abused because you can't get laid. Do you even hear yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 08:25 PM
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The old "anything that doesn't conform to my preconceived worldview is false" argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 10:42 AM
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Many women live with female roommates throughout their twenties. It's actually quite common.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 05:57 PM
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I think a good chunk of the women who are happy being single are those who are divorced or separated from a long-term relationship, rather than women who have been perpetually single their whole lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 08:53 PM
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I am a 45 year old woman who just very recently divorced, and I have had no issues landing dates with very attractive men of all ages from the dating apps. I've also joined groups for women over 40, and the vast majority of them have no problems gaining interest, dates, and relationships with men they really like. The manosphere lied to you about women over 35 or 40.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 08:36 PM
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The suicide rate for women in Afghanistan is extremely high. So no, they are not happy being literal prisoners of their home.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 05:23 PM
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This is a completely unfair law, and I understand why someone would go to those lengths to be able to retire earlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 08:50 PM
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It's less about being nice and more about having a good personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 10:28 AM
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The divorce rate is actually the lowest that it's been in 50 years. Divorce Rate at a 50-Year Low
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 07:13 PM
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Yes, "mother's little helper"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 07:12 PM
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I'm currently going through perimenopause and holy hell is it ever a roller coaster of emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 07:04 PM
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Men are 20% of stay-at-home parents, so there are obviously some women fine with that arrangement/dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 05:56 PM
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If a guy is physically unattractive to me, no amount of money can compensate for the lack of attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 09:15 PM
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I can relate to it as well, and I was a full-blown alcoholic for a few years. I'm in recovery now but the social anxiety dominates my life. Even with medication, I can't seem to get a handle on it. It's so bad that I don't socialize with anyone at all anymore. When I was drinking, I was an extroverted party girl, but I was also literally destroying myself and ruining my life, so I had to quit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 09:45 PM
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I have looked at recent data, but as of just 2 or 3 years ago, the majority of young men (18-29) were having sex even if they weren't in serious long-term relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 06:18 PM
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I’ve recently divorced and am active in a bunch of divorce support groups. It’s common for the marital home to be sold and the money split between the spouses.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 12:26 PM
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Yeah, this is the most disturbing post I've ever read in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 09:17 PM
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Where is your evidence that most single women are engaging in hookups and FWB situationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:29 PM
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The reason women have a problem with men saying that “sex is a need” is that the implication is that women have some duty or obligation to “provide” sexual services to lonely or horny men. I’m sure that you can understand why women find that claim to be somewhat unnerving. It’s totally understandable that men who are romantically or sexually unsuccessful feel sadness and frustration, but it’s an entirely different matter to insinuate that women have some duty to give their bodies over to these m…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 01:43 PM
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Plenty of dudes screenshot posts and comments from women's social media accounts and dating app profiles and post them in other groups to mock and criticize. Both genders do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 06:41 PM
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Right? I rolled my eyes so hard at his fake “statistic.” Some people deliberately choose to downplay the number of men who are dangerous, and instead choose to paint women as histrionic and paranoid. It pisses me off to no end. *And, yes, I’m aware that there are plenty of violent women out there as well. The difference is that violent women are far less likely to inflict violence on strangers than violent men are. Violent women will abuse people they know, such as their partners or family membe…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 03:13 PM
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You’re not wrong, but I firmly believe that stranger incidents are more common than many are led to believe. Personally, I have been the victim of sexual assault twice in my life, and both incidents happened at the hands of men who were strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 03:06 PM
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Your post doesn’t match with your title. You seem to be suggesting in your post that women, in fact, aren’t overreacting or over-exaggerating about their safety concerns, and that those concerns are valid. Your main argument seems to be that it’s equally valid for men to have safety concerns, which I think is fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 03:04 PM
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How many average progressive women do you personally know in real life? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 03:26 PM
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Of course. But I don’t think that’s what u/justdontsashay is referring to. Women who have careers and are independent often want egalitarian relationships, which I don’t think is unreasonable at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 03:25 PM
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I wouldn't call it a farce. They were together before he was injured in Iraq.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 08:24 PM
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I’m not super well-versed on history, but just look to the genetic evidence that Genghis Khan had a ton of children.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 09:03 AM
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Yep, the Earth and nature always wins.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 05:03 PM
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What percentage of men overall are wealthy and famous? It makes no sense to use this Sharpe example as evidence of a broader common trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 02:40 PM
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I agree. I don’t think she has the most beautiful face.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 04:56 PM
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I don’t mind smoking and occasional recreational hard drug usage. I was a party girl myself back in the day and still smoke. Making raunchy, overly sexual or off-color jokes or comments is fine with me, as long as comments aren’t misogynistic or otherwise hateful. I would date a guy who isn’t financially stable in the sense that he has savings and retirement all planned out. I just want a man who has a job and can pay rent and the very basics.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 09:58 AM
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Do you know how many women in religious fundamentalist communities are the victims of domestic violence at the hands of their seemingly straight-laced, upstanding husbands, some of whom are even pastors or other clergymen? Thinking that only tatted-up dudes are abusive is a very naive take.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 06:55 PM
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"But statistically most single women are still sexually active. The number of women in relationships is rapidly decreasing but the overall number of women having sex is relatively stable." Do you have a source for this?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 09:47 PM
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Lmao And all of the middle-aged dudes on the apps still attempting to live the fuckboy lifestyle aren’t? 🙄😂
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 07:55 PM
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"If you are a healthy male with a healthy level of testosterone, you really don't feel strong emotions all that frequently." People like you always forget that anger is an emotion, which lots of men are well known for regularly expressing in inappropriate ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 09:30 PM
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In 45% of American marriages now, the husband is neither the sole breadwinner nor the primary breadwinner. Obviously, this suggests that there are a whole lot of women out there who work and earn decent incomes. If financial losses in a potential divorce is such a major concern, then you could always marry a woman who isn’t financially repent on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 03:01 PM
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This post isn’t referring to sexual dynamics, though. Just because a woman is sexually submissive doesn’t mean she is willing to be submissive outside of the bedroom. You’re referring to something else entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 05:30 PM
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No, all women do not want a leader. Many of us prefer egalitarian relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 05:26 PM
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Men don’t bother to fight for custody most of the time. Those who do fight for custody receive 50/50 or full custody nearly all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 07:56 PM
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Thailand is pretty awful, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 10:03 AM
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Okay, so I'm someone whose relationships started out as friendships. However, when I say that I was friends with my past partners first, I don't mean that they were super close friendships. It was more of a "friend of friends" situation in each case. So for example, I was into the scene in my twenties, and I'd meet guys through some of my other friends at parties and concerts and what not, and then we'd see each other on the weekends at other parties going forward. Eventually we'd hookup after a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 10:06 AM
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"This is why I always suggest to guys on here to get Chad friends so they can see what raw attraction looks like." This isn't a bad idea. But it's less about Chad's looks and more about how he behaves around women. Most guys who are popular with women have more going for them than just looks or money; they are usually charismatic and often funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 10:00 AM
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According to Pew Research, 1 in 5 stay-at-home parents are fathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 03:12 PM
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Well of that isn’t a rectally-sourced statistic. 🙄😂 The percentage of women who have ever done any form of sex work, including cam work, is estimated to be around 2%.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 07:56 PM
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I’m 45, and this was true for most guys even 25 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 07:54 PM
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When you say that men like women, you should specify that men like sex. Even in this sub, you’ll frequently see men say that they don’t enjoy hanging out with women as friends or romantic partners because they think women are boring or annoying. But those same guys still want women because they want access to sex. That’s not exactly men “liking” women-it’s “lusting” after them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 03:01 PM
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I was going to comment the same thing. You’ll see occasional side discussions about important issues, such as the draft or boys falling behind in school, but the primary focus of the manosphere by far is sex and dating (or the lack thereof, I should say).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 02:52 PM
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Something like 20% of women have been the victim of an attempted or completed rape at some point in their lives, including myself. It’s not nearly as rare of an occurrence as some of you manosphere guys think.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 01:23 PM
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I recently went down a rabbit hole of discussion about the influx of young guys who follow manosphere content flocking to the Catholic and Orthodox churches. So, this is definitely already happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 10:37 AM
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I’m a major introvert and homebody. We are out there, I promise.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 10:46 AM
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I’m a Charlie Hunnam, of Sons of Anarchy fame, fan, personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 04:23 PM
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Interesting. Yeah, this goes to show that everybody has different experiences, and it’s really not helpful to generalize.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 04:16 PM
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On my dating app profile, I have one professional photo and the others are ordinary non-altered/unfiltered selfies. I didn’t have the professional photo taken specifically for my dating app profile, though. I won a free boudoir photo session and used one of the less racy photos from that session.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 10:56 AM
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I agree, but then again, I don't get the manosphere obsession with him. He's a good-looking guy, no doubt, but I don't think he's the pinnacle of male beauty. I guess it goes to show that attraction is at least somewhat subjective!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 08:39 PM
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Yeah, all but one of my long-term relationships started out as hookups/casual FWBs situationships. I think that’s far more common than a lot of red-pilled or sexually inexperienced guys realize.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 08:26 PM
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All of the experienced men I’ve known have gone on to date and marry women who are also experienced. And these are desirable men who have their pick of women. This obsession with virgins and body counts is really not something that most normie men share.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 08:18 PM
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What exactly do you think should be covered via taxes?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 03:28 PM
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I've rejected a couple guys I had casual hookups with for long-term relationships who were good-looking and great in bed because they didn't have their lives together.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 09:21 PM
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Random dudes wanting to stick their dick in us (women) is not a benefit, I can assure you. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 03:22 PM
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So you literally just do whatever your husband tells you to do, no questions asked?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 03:40 PM
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You do realize that many feminists advocate for either the abolition of the draft altogether or the inclusion of women in the draft, right? It’s primarily been conservative lawmakers—and conservative male lawmakers, specifically—who are opposed to the incision of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 03:37 PM
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Sure, and I’m one of those women. I acknowledge that I would likely have an easier time dating than men around my age would. But OP is talking about women having easier lives in general, and I definitely don’t agree with that notion.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 03:34 PM
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Oh, you know, just another vague and cryptic threat.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 03:28 PM
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I am INTJ-T.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 11:18 AM
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It seems like he red pill movement used to be primarily about spinning planets, but now it has evolved to align more with tradcons. I read somewhere that the reason for the shift was that the vast majority of red pillers were unsuccessful at spinning plates, so they moved away from that to endorsing the traditional relationship where they can be the leader/head of household with their “pure” submissive wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 08:24 PM
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I’ve always been thin and fit and prefer to date men who are at least somewhat in shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 11:21 AM
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Interesting. My father encouraged me to go to college and never put myself in a position to financially rely on a man. I've heard many other women say their fathers encouraged them to do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 10:02 PM
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Source for your ridiculous 10% claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 09:54 PM
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In many European countries, the norm is for couples to split the bill even on first dates, so, no, all men do not pay for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 09:40 PM
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A lot of men like traditional relationships because they want to leverage their provider role as a way to take advantage of the inherent power imbalance.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 09:37 PM
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That’s really just because people are pairing up later in life, so I don’t think it’s unusual that more people are single through their 20s now.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 05:40 PM
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I agree that the average woman’s libido is lower than the average man’s. However, women’s libidos typically peak in their mid-thirties to early-forties rather than their twenties. Just wanted to point that out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:17 AM
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Something like 1 in 4 women have been the victim of an attempted or completed rape at some point during their lives. I'm included in that 25% statistic. Sexual assault happens more often than some guys like you (who aren't rapists and can't imagine doing something like that) think.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:54 PM
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"Men aren't doing well because we as a society decided to hold them down so women could get ahead" ...."When accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 09:32 PM
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Same. When I’m at the gym, I’m typically there to run 5 or 6 miles on the treadmill and maybe do a bit of strength training, and I end up getting quite sweaty. So I definitely don’t like people up in my personal space at the gym, probably more so than other places. I’m there for a reason—not to socialize and certainly not to set up dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 01:12 PM
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It’s actually quite pathetic that some people can’t be friends with anyone of the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 08:46 PM
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Your claim about STDs being more common/rampant now than ever before is simply not true. Do some research into how common syphilis, for example, was in the late Middle Ages.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:38 AM
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Seriously? It's pretty clear that a significant percentage of people who frequently participate in this sub have subpar social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 09:00 PM
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He sounds like a genuine feminist ally. I don’t find anything wrong with the guy having physical preferences and partaking in casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 03:44 PM
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Another points about SSRIs, in particular, is that women in perimenopause and menopause often take them to help regulate mood swings and deal with depression due to the hormonal changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 09:51 PM
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Many of the women who date criminals are addicts or alcoholics. Oftentimes, they don’t have a criminal record.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 03:54 PM
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I mean, this actually happens. There are millions of people who earn low wages and have come to accept their circumstances. Of course, they might wish that things had turned out differently and they had been more successful, but since that didn’t pan out the them, they’ve reached acceptance.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 08:34 PM
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The domestic violence rate for couples where one partner is a cop is very high—40%, I believe. I wouldn’t want to take a gamble on a guy whose profession is full of domestic abusers.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 07:17 PM
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I'd have absolutely no problem with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 08:25 AM
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Yes: Smokes marijuana; Considers himself to be a feminist; Refuses to use marijuana (as long as he doesn't care if I smoke); Slept with 20+ people (I'm fairly experienced myself); 5 years younger than me; Refuses to have kids (I'm already the mother of one and don't want more); Voted for Kamala Harris; believes that reincarnation is real; Has the same first name as my ex No: Devout Christian (but maybe for a Christian who isn't an evangelical/fundamentalist/conservative type); Doesn't think gay …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 11:47 PM
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I’m an older woman, and I agree with you. Dating is definitely easier for women of pretty much all ages, at least in terms of having options.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 11:29 AM
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Whenever I see posts like OP’s or comments like yours, I always sense that there is a misunderstanding at play. There are different types of “bad” boys: there’s the genuinely bad type of guy who is violent or involved in serious criminal activity, and then there’s the party guy type who isn’t really a bad person but definitely likes to get wild sometimes. Far more women are interested in the second type of dude than the first.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 06:11 PM
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Same. I shared my experience elsewhere in this thread, but I was a wild one in my twenties, and I’ve never even known anyone who has done most of things OP described.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 11:42 AM
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Right? A minuscule percentage of women are doing things like getting peed on at parties or having trains ran on them. 🙄😂 Like, those are extremely rare outliers. And that’s not to even mention his example of dropping a freaking baby into a Walmart toilet. Like, how many times ever has that happened? Once or twice? Really good example of what average women are doing. 🙄 A more apt description of the typical wild/party girl would be something like the following (and this was me 15-20 years ago): So…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 11:40 AM
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Oh really? There are over 4 million registered nurses in the US, most of whom are women. Do you honestly think AI can easily replace healthcare professionals, especially those who do more of the hands-on work, like nurses? I don’t think so. It would seem to me that some male-dominated trade professions would be easier to fully automate than caregiving roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 11:25 AM
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The average poor or working-class couple likely has little in the way of assets to divide in the event of a divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 11:22 AM
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Yeah, guys like that don’t want to admit that anger is very much an emotion.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 08:53 PM
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You want a tradwife because your fragile ego and insecurities can’t handle a true partnership of equals.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 08:51 PM
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How does voting for Trump help young men? Which policies or actions of his are beneficial to average young men? As I see it, the only demographic that is benefiting is the very richest people. But I’d love to hear your responses to my questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 06:19 PM
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Hmm, I’m not so sure about that. Sure, the education system could definitely be improved. But the primary issue is the parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 10:39 AM
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Women don’t need to give up on the prospect of marriages and children. However, it definitely makes sense that many women choose to keep their careers in order to protect themselves and any children they have.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 04:03 PM
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You really need to brush up on history. Women throughout history have performed paid work that didn’t involve tending to their own families.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 03:55 PM
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That is absolutely not always the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 03:58 PM
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I've rarely seen red-pilled guys suggest that they want to have egalitarian relationships where both partners work, pay the bills, and divvy up the household chores/childcare.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 04:31 PM
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"Also women are hypergamous and almost always marry up" Not anymore. In 45% of modern American marriages, the husband is not the sole or primary breadwinner. In those marriages, either the husband and wife earn roughly the same income or the wife is the breadwinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 04:29 PM
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The definition of “incel” has changed over the years. To be an incel, a man is not only involuntarily celibate, but he also espouses misogynistic viewpoints. So, not all male virgins (or men who struggle to date/sleep with women) are incels. In the examples you’ve given, you don’t go into detail about whether or not Billy and Dorothy are hateful toward the opposite gender due to their lack of success with sex and dating. If they aren’t hateful, then they aren’t an incel or femcel.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 01:51 PM
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It's always so bizarre to me when I see this type of argument, because it operates from the assumption that women don't work or have their own assets. It's 2025; not 1970. In a decent percentage of modern marriages (45% of marriages, in fact), the husband is not the sole or primary breadwinner. If those couples were to divorce, the man wouldn't lose half of "his" assets, because both partners have assets. Either the couples would end up breaking even, or in some situations, the woman would lose …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 12:58 PM
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You do realize that the majority of mothers (in the US, at least) are not stay-at-home parents, right? Most mothers work; in fact, only 26% of mothers in the US are stay-at-home moms. And what do families where both partners work do about childcare? Many use daycare facilities or in-home providers. Some have grandparents or other relatives watch their kids. And in some situations, couples stagger their work schedules so that one partner is always home with kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 08:00 PM
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Mansplaining to a random woman what she should do with her own life 🙄 Because as a man, you of course know better than her what choices she should make. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 07:54 PM
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Yeah, with the exception of extreme outliers (legit micropensis or insanely huge), most women don't really care. I'm a woman who has been with a decent number of guys (a little over 20 guys by the age of 45), and I can only recall one guy's size being problematic during sex. That particular guy had a micropenis, and it was indeed difficult to have PIV sex with him. But otherwise, guys' sizes really didn't factor in all that much. I've been with average-sized guys who were far better in bed than …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 11:32 AM
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You are completely out of touch with reality. Here’s a dose of reality for you: In 45% of American marriages, the husband is neither the sole nor primary breadwinner. (Source: Pew Research) The above figure continues to climb as time goes on. And in some metro areas, young women are now out-earning young men. I understand that this probably infuriates you, since you see women as inferior, but it’s the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 01:58 PM
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You do realize that OP is specifically talking about casual sex, right, and that's why women are responding this way? If OP had focused on men being lonely and not being to get into actual relationships where they'd also presumably be having regular sex with their girlfriends, then I guarantee you the many of the comments would be different. I don't know why you'd think that any woman would care about a guy not being able to pop into the club whenever he feels like it and bring a new woman home …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 10:46 PM
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Again, I feel for men who wish to be in actual relationships, which would presumably entail having regular sex as well. As long as a guy isn't entitled and misogynistic, I feel empathy for him. (Hell, I just went through a divorce and I'm extremely lonely myself.) With that said, OP's post is specifically about frequent casual sex. In that context, I don't think it's at all reasonable for anybody to care that some guy isn't getting as laid after the clubs or whatever. That is an entirely separat…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 10:12 PM
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Exactly. I feel empathy for men who are lonely and haven't been unable to attract a long-term romantic partner--that is, if they aren't hateful about the situation. However, I certainly am not going to feel bad for some guy whose major complaint is that he can't have casual sex like all the Chads do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 09:24 PM
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OP is referring to an incel/red-pill revenge fantasy sometimes discussed in forums like this one where lonely, angry men rise up in a violent rebellion and essentially forcefully enslave women by removing women's rights and relegating them to second-class citizens once again.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 12:49 PM
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Listen to women’s lived experiences instead of dismissing us as neurotic and paranoid. I, too, have had several very frightening and dangerous encounters with strange men. In July of 2006, I was nearing the end of a 5-mile jog on a bike path on a beautiful Saturday afternoon when a man came out of the adjacent wooded area and attacked me, tackling me to the ground. He then attempted to suffocate me with one arm while trying to drag me up in to the wooded area on the other side. Fortunately, anot…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 01:43 PM
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I’ll chime in to this conversation. I’m a newly single mom and am considering dating again in the future if I can get over my social anxiety. I have one child, a 15 year-old son. At this juncture in my life, I would definitely consider dating a single dad, with the caveat that his child/children is/are over the age of maybe 8 or 9. I’m just past the point where I want to help care for little kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 11:39 AM
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I think all too often what gets lost in this conversation is the fact that after a certain age—say 35—many, if not most, women AND men have had children already. So the dating pool for slightly older people is just bound to have more single parents in it. It’s not just single moms looking to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 11:31 AM
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It's actually decreased. Of course, fewer people are getting married these days, but the overall divorce rate hit a 50-year low in 2022. It was the lowest that it's been since 1971.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 09:58 PM
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Yes, when women are liberated and can provide for themselves, fewer of them will partner up with men. Some will choose to remain single or casually date men or even date women. This is a much better scenario than subjugating half of the population. This shouldn't need to be said. It's unfortunate that some people will not find a partner, though. Life is very unfair sometimes. I'm dealing with a chronic health condition that is causing me to be sicker and sicker as time passes on. I'm currently s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 09:46 PM
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There are men who lust over female killers. Two of those women that come to mind are Casey Anthony and Jodi Arias.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 06:05 PM
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"I intentionally avoid typing my most elite thinking in here for 'certain reasons.'" Oh look, we are in the presence of an enlightened sage of a red piller here--he who has been bestowed with secret knowledge that only a few wise ones are privy to! LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 11:51 AM
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While I believe you're correct in saying that most modern men don't seek out women who are willing to be submissive, that doesn't seem to be the case for self-described passport bros. Go to any forum where passport bros congregate, including here on Reddit, and you will find a much higher than average percentage of men who explicitly state that they want a submissive housewife.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 11:45 AM
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These days, alimony is relatively rare. Only 10% divorces end with one spouse being awarded alimony. Child support is an entirely different matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 02:11 PM
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The revenge fantasies with some of these guys is out of control.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 10:19 PM
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I do! I wear makeup even when I'm not going anywhere. I also style my hair. I just feel more put together and ready to tackle my day when I do those things, even if I'm just working from home by myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 10:13 PM
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Just a possible suggestion: You could add in your dating app bio that you are specifically interested in an egalitarian relationship dynamic, which should signal to women that you expect dates to be 50/50. I'm a woman who prefers to split the bill, even on a first date, so we definitely exist!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 07:01 PM
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There is research available indicating that throughout human history, only around 40% of men reproduced. So, this notion that a group of sexless men existing is a new thing is simply not true. It’s just that prior to 15 or 20 years ago, those men couldn’t go to online forums and commiserate with other men who were in a similar predicament.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 11:26 AM
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You're not wrong. I guess I don't understand why the focus in pilled spaces is always on cold-approaching. I mean, that's never been the primary way that couples have met, even 50 or 100 years ago. Most people met through social networks, such as high school, college, work, church, or friend or hobby groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 10:47 PM
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If the only way that a society (or our species in general) can survive is by enslaving half of the population (women), then it isn’t worth continuing on.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:08 PM
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Many single women have options and are choosing to stay single anyway. It’s delusional to believe otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:13 PM
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What a misogynistic take to insinuate that all men will cheat given the opportunity. You don’t think very highly of men, do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:10 PM
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You’re a nice guy because you don’t mind being settled for? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:08 PM
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I very highly doubt that 25% of women have done a gangbang. I would imagine the percentage is much lower. Now threesomes are probably much more common, especially FFM.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 06:19 PM
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Single women often aren’t alone, though. They are much more likely than single men to have a full social life with plenty of friendships.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 11:53 AM
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Thank you!! And same to you!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 08:10 PM
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I mean, I would be concerned about these issues, but I’d be equally concerned about a girl’s development. I do have a son, and although he wasn’t a premie, he was at a very low percentile for weight (not height) until he was about 10. I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t somewhat worried. But now he’s 15 and average in both height and weight for his age.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 05:57 PM
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Yes, but typically a McDonalds employee isn’t dating someone who is college-educated and earns a nearly six-figure salary. Low-wage fast food workers are usually in relationships with other low-wage earners, or at least with people who don’t have fairly high-earning white-collar jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 04:03 PM
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So, you’re insinuating that women aren’t contributing “femininely” because they aren’t giving their bodies for sexual purposes to lonely men? Yeah, that’s a fucked up thought proceeds.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 01:58 PM
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According to Pew Research, only 26% of married American women are housewives/stay-at-home moms. So this notion that most women don’t work is false.
/r/MensRights24/04/25 08:55 PM
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This is a weird ass take.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 03:44 PM
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I don’t know how many times I’ve heard (or read) people discussing how they learned that a grandfather or some other older relative had lead a double life. They’d have a wife and kids in one place, as well as a secret mistress and maybe kids with her in another place The thing is, people did not openly talk about scandals and controversies back then. Even in my own family, my aunt was a flight attendant in the 60s who never married. Sometime in the late 90s, she told my family that she had given…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 04:03 PM
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Why are you operating from the assumption that all attractive women have bad personalities? This is the same line of thinking as red pillers who insist all "Chads" (meaning, good-looking guys) are some sort of villain.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 10:18 AM
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All of the people in happy relationships who have active sex lives aren't typically going online and sharing their experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 03:32 PM
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I completely disagree. Many young virgin men have baggage because they are resentful of not having been able to date. That is a type pf baggage.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 03:30 PM
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Since you believe in polyamory, I assume your wives would be able to take on other lovers. Or is this just one-sided polyamory?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 09:52 PM
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The vast majority of people over a certain age have at least some type of baggage—yes, even men and women who have never dated before.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 06:44 PM
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I completely agree with this. Facial attractiveness is definitely the physical quality I care most about.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 09:53 PM
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Lean and toned. I have a type and usually date guys who were former athletes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 09:45 PM
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61.6% of men currently in the US are fathers, so clearly women don't only go for the top 20% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 10:12 PM
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What makes you think all, or even most, of those single women have active sex lives? Some people can be perfectly content without regularly having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 06:43 PM
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In 45% of American marriages today, the husband is not the breadwinner. Obviously, many women are not demanding that their male partners be the breadwinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 10:30 PM
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Women being physically attracted to men who look a certain way has nothing to do with gender roles. I can find a man with an athletic body type sexually appealing, while also desiring an egalitarian relationship where both partners work, split the bills, and contribute as evenly as possible to the household chores and childcare. And yes, masculine-looking man can prefer egalitarian relationships. Many of the men I've either known or dated fit that description. I don't know where this misconcepti…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 10:02 PM
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I’ve honestly never met a man who wanted to date or marry a virgin outside of super religious circles. Date Psychology also did a survey and found that the majority of men prefer their partners to have had a few previous sexual partners. The minority of men who did say they wanted a virgin were either very young or sexually inexperienced themselves. Older guys and guys who were sexually experienced typically weren’t interested in dating virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 08:43 PM
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As a feminist, I don't believe men should be expected to pay for dates or be the default pursuers. I think you'll find that many actual feminists don't demand these things. I also think that the draft should either be abolished, or it should be compulsory for women as well (ideally the former).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 10:54 PM
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It’s very clear that you don’t actually know many women at all. Seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 05:01 PM
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Why is there this constant obsession in this sub with red-pilled guys insisting that attractive men are bad people? It’s utterly baffling.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 03:19 PM
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The same is true of very attractive women who are genuinely awful human beings. People of both genders will often overlook terrible behavior and character traits when a person is hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 09:35 PM
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I'm in a number of female-centered groups on other social media platforms, and women definitely analyze dating patterns and strategies and male behavior in terms of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 01:29 AM
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As an attractive woman, I have had my fair share of tough times in my life. I’ve been sexually assaulted twice by men who were strangers to me. I have been harassed and made to feel unsafe a number of times. I’ve experienced domestic violence. And that’s not to mention, all of the ways my life has been far from easy that have nothing to do with men or romantic relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 09:52 PM
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Right? This might be single-handedly the most delusional, chronically online take I’ve read.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 09:45 PM
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This has always been the case for me. All of my relationships began as FWB situationships, and I never categorized my partners like OP is describing. Seems kind of bizarre.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 09:31 PM
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I actually don’t have a problem with this, aside from mentioning the cost associated with making it standard at delivery/birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 10:52 PM
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As far as I know, there is no data to suggest that this is happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 08:51 PM
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Many of us have been victimized in the past, so it’s often not just about fear we develop from stories we’ve read or watched but rather from personal experiences we’ve had. In fact, probably half of the women you know have likely had at least one awful encounter with a random man at some point in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 06:51 PM
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I’m 45 and will consider dating men between the ages of 35 and 55.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 03:03 PM
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As a middle-aged woman, I can assure you that there are lots of men around my age who haven’t aged well at all. It’s a manosphere myth that most older men age much better than similarly aged women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 09:17 PM
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The data doesn’t suggest that more young women than young men are having casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 04:02 PM
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86 year-old men are also far less attractive than 24 year-old men, though, so what's the point? Most men and women both are more attractive in their twenties and early thirties than they are when they're late thirties and beyond. This isn't gender-specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 10:54 PM
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Lmao, everyone is post-wall at 80 years old. What an absurd comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 10:40 PM
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I'll never understand why, when this topic is discussed, that the focus is always on older *childless* single women. After a certain age (say 35), most men and women have had kids. And single people over 35 or so who have already had kids often aren't interested in having more kids, so a woman's fertility is a non-issue. Like, I'm 45 years old and will obviously not be having more kids (I have a teenaged son), but I have no issues attracting men in their late thirties and above to date. The majo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 10:39 PM
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Theoretically, that’s true. I’m extremely social anxious and somewhat shy, and while I have had a lot of interest on the dating apps from men of all ages, my social anxiety is so bad that I’ll never actually meet up with any of the guys for dates. So, yeah, significant mental illness is detrimental for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 05:50 PM
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My husband left me a year ago after I’d become ill with a chronic health condition. He had started an affair prior to announcing that he was leaving me, and then ran off with the other woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 01:59 PM
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As a somewhat shy woman with a severe case of social anxiety, I absolutely agree with you. I have zero social life because I’m too anxious to meet up with people in person. I wasn’t always like this. Anyway, it’s kind of hard to date when you never leave your house. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 09:45 PM
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"They were naive enough to think they could push for privilege without a push back." This would be a good time to add this quote: "To those accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 11:08 PM
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I’ll chime in and say that a comment like that wouldn’t upset or offend me. Where I do draw the line is vulgar comments that are made inappropriately by a guy I either don’t know at all or barely know. So, for example, if a guy reaches out to me on a dating app and within the first three messages sends a dick pic and suggests wanting to fuck me, that would be off-putting. But a simple compliment is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 07:18 PM
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Many, if not most, women and (men) who are in their mid-thirties and above who are actively dating are divorced and already have children. A significant percentage of this dating demographic aren’t interested in having any more children, so the woman’s fertility doesn’t matter in those cases. I’m 45 and have found this to be true for me personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 03:52 PM
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This is one of the biggest manosphere myths that I see repeated often. In reality, most women in relationships are sharing bill paying responsibilities with their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 03:47 PM
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Only 26% of American women who are mothers are housewives/stay-at-home moms. So, the majority of women work. Gone are the days of the traditional relationship dynamic being the norm. Furthermore, in nearly half (45%) of marriages, the husband is not the sole or primary breadwinner. Those marriages are either egalitarian (with both partners earning roughly the same income) or the wife is the breadwinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 10:20 PM
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Yes, and this true of women as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 10:10 PM
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You can't be serious with this comment. Trump is about as far from a "family values" man as you can get. He's been married three times and has children with all three wives. He cheated on his wives, including sleeping with a porn star. Like, what are you even talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 08:23 PM
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I’ve never really separated guys into these two categories of long-term boyfriend/husband option versus casual hookup/FWB option. Each of the serious, long-term relationships I have had (5 in total) started out as more casual FWB situationships. I’ll also add that those guys I dated were either friends or acquaintances beforehand, so they weren’t strangers who I met off apps or whatever. Basically, I’d hang out with the guy in a party setting and then we’d hook up one night, which then led to mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 05:15 PM
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I’m considered conventionally attractive, and while I had an active social life in my twenties, I’m now in my forties and a total homebody. By homebody, I mean I genuinely don’t ever go out and socialize. The reason? I developed severe social anxiety over the last decade, likely due to experiencing a lot of trauma in my late twenties and thirties. So, there is virtually zero chance I would meet a man through social channels or a cold approach. I recently went through a divorce, and I’ve been on …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 03:32 PM
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In 45% of American marriages, the husband is not the sole or primary breadwinner. So in nearly half of marriages in the US, either the husband and wife earn roughly the same income, or the wife is the breadwinner. Husbands and Wives Earn Similar Wages in a Growing Share of Marriages | Pew Research Center
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 05:09 AM
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"Besides, even if the woman is educated and has a good job, the man is still likely to have to pay alimony." This is simply untrue. Alimony is only awarded in 10% of divorces these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 05:01 AM
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The percentage of women earning as much, or more, than their husbands is increasing year-by-year. In 45% of American marriages (as of 2022), the husband is not the sole or primary breadwinner. So in nearly half of American marriages, either the husband and wife earn roughly the same income, or the wife is the breadwinner. Husbands and Wives Earn Similar Wages in a Growing Share of Marriages | Pew Research Center
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 04:26 AM
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A significant percentage of women earn as much, or more, than their husbands. In 45% of American marriages, the husband is not the sole or primary breadwinner. In those marriages, either the husband and wife earn roughly the same income, or the wife is the breadwinner. Husbands and Wives Earn Similar Wages in a Growing Share of Marriages | Pew Research Center
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 04:23 AM
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Yeah so, I'm in several support groups with tens of thousands of women whose husbands had an affair and left them. It happens far, far more often than you seem to think. It happened to me, although I have a career and didn't need totally panic about my future in terms of finances. Many women who were abandoned were stay-at-homes moms, though, and most of those women ended up in very bad positions post-divorce. Some are completely destitute now.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 04:20 AM
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"Men want to be king of their castle the home is not a democracy. If I say make a sandwich I want it made not a bunch of sass,If I say we're going to this restaurant I don't want her input or suggestions." So, a domestic dictatorship. Gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 04:13 AM
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This conversation is centered on tradcons or manosphere dudes who *specifically seek out* traditional women to date and marry. It's absolutely absurd for a guy like that to insist on marrying a woman who will be a financially dependent homemaker/stay-at-home wife, but then rage on about the consequences when divorcing. As of 2022, 45% of married American women earn as much, or more, than their husbands. When husbands are no longer the sole or primary breadwinner in nearly half of marriages, it s…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 03:54 AM
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You do realize that most working women don’t have high-powered corporate careers, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 11:12 PM
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At least you’re honest about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 11:11 PM
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Yeah, Leonardo DiCaprio is one who is often cited.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 05:41 PM
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"I said that women have outpaced traditional gender roles through economic liberation, but they still expect men to remain in those outdated roles when dating them." The data shows that an increasing number of women are earning as much, or more than, their husbands. In fact, this is the case in 45% of American marriages (as of 2022). So, which outdated gender roles are feminist women clinging to exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 04:15 PM
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I agree with this. It seems that a lot of guys in this sub believe that most feminist women endorse the same views as FDS women, which just isn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 04:08 PM
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What you’re saying is just flat-put wrong. As a 45 year-old woman who has no problem getting men interested in dating me, I can say safely say that you are just detailing a revenge fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 02:15 PM
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Why would BanFemaleHate be problematic? I’ve only ever seen them target genuinely awful subs.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 04:45 PM
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The research shows that women are more likely to end up in poverty (or significantly struggling) than men post-divorce. So this narrative that women make it out big in divorce is simply false. That only happens with the absolute wealthiest one-percenters.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 03:13 PM
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That’s not why I’m not dating. I do, indeed, have a lot of matches on the apps. My problem is that I have developed extreme social anxiety over the last few years, and so now after recently going through a divorce, I’m on the apps and wanting to date but too scared to actually meet up with any of the guys. It’s not at all that I think I’m too good (or above) most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:00 PM
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20 years ago I would have said maybe, but not anymore. It’s a definite no for me now.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 07:02 PM
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Yep, mother’s little helper.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 09:49 PM
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You can avoid major financial woes in a potential future divorce by actively seeking to date women who have good careers and their own assets. As of 2022, men are not the primary or sole breadwinner in a significant percentage of marriages—45% to be exact. So there are obviously plenty of women who carry their own weight when it comes to income/assets.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 04:34 PM
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You aren’t the only person who is searching for their dream partner who checks off all the boxes for preferences. Most men and women have an “ideal” for their desired partner, but very few actually land their absolute ideal dream mate. That’s just life and reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 10:06 PM
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Actually, it’s been my experience that the men who have had a lot of dating and sexual experience are the ones who are the least likely to give a fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 02:47 PM
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People break rules and make exceptions for the most attractive men and women. Men do the same for extremely good-looking women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 12:59 PM
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Fantastic response! I couldn’t agree more.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 10:22 PM
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Same. This wasn’t even a trend to ask about body count prior to maybe 4 years ago. It’s a new thing brought about by the manospher and social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 01:35 PM
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You do realize that most men aren’t going around asking their dates about body count or sexual history, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 01:32 PM
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I am not a public figure, and I’ve received rape threats from random men on social media. It happens more often than you think, and to completely ordinary women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 09:08 PM
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When have you ever seen a woman claim to be okay with an unemployed man?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 10:23 PM
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The problem is that some guys who claim to be above average or average are actually below average. I’m sure this happens with some women, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 09:24 PM
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Men are not shamed because they don’t want to date single moms or promiscuous women (or older women or fat women). They are criticized for the ways in which they shame and insult those women when stating their preferences. Here’s a common example: A guy who doesn’t want to date an overweight or obese women calls her a “disgusting landwhale.” That’s rude AF, obviously. He could easily just say, “I prefer to date thinner women.”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 09:17 PM
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Such as?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 09:01 PM
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Yep, they frequently claim that every liberal feminist woman is angry, ugly, obese, and old. Sometimes they’ll throw in “blue-haired” as well. And they throw the same insults at us on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:14 PM
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You do realize that women very commonly worked alongside their husbands on their farms for much of recorded history, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 08:46 PM
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Can you provide a source for this? I’m just interested in reading it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 05:02 PM
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I’ve developed multiple chronic health conditions over the last few years, so I can relate to this somewhat. I was married, though, for a long time before my husband left me for another woman. He was unhappy with the fact that I’m so sick, so he bailed. I’ve since gone on to a few of the dating apps, but I can’t shake the feeling that I’d just burden someone with my health problems and whatnot. Feel free to DM me if you want. It’s always nice to chat with someone who understands serious illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 04:52 PM
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Absolutely not. I don’t particularly love receiving oral sex (just doesn’t really do it for me), and the other stuff is also just meh (with the exception of mutual masturbation, which I enjoy). PIV sex is my absolute favorite, so making it taboo would be a no fcking thank-you for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 02:28 PM
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But it IS relatively uncommon for a high-earning man, like a doctor, to date a much lower-earning and less-educated woman, like a hair stylist.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 07:19 PM
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Right? And how often do we see men in manosphere/manosphere-adjacent spaces like this sub (or male-oriented spaces in general, like the AskMen sub) claim that that they don’t care about a woman’s career or income? It’s extremely common for men to say they don’t give a fuck. So, I’m calling BS that most men want to do away with the default male provider role.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 05:15 PM
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Society has already made great strides in dismantling the male “provider” archetype. Let’s just look at the current statistics: As of 2022, only 55% of married American men are the sole or primary breadwinners of their families. So, nearly half of American marriages do not operate with a male breadwinner in place. In 29% of marriages, the husband and wife earn roughly the same income. These marriages are egalitarian, at least in terms of finances. And in 16% of marriages, the wife is the sole or…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 04:57 PM
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There are plenty of men who abandon their kids and want nothing to do with joint custody.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 03:20 PM
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I mean, yeah, that can certainly be an issue. I’m not taking a moral or ethical stand when I mention the prevalence of alcohol use during casual sex encounters. I’m just stating that it’s common.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 02:41 PM
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Yes, and this isn’t mentioned enough during conversations about casual sex/hookups. Some people in this sub (who often self-identify as inexperienced) have this preconceived notion that the majority of hookups are pre-planned between two sober people who just met off of an app. While this surely happens sometimes, I think the likelier scenario is that there is drinking beforehand.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 01:18 PM
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Add Musk and Pete Hegseth to that list, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 05:27 PM
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And if a society needs to restrict the rights of half of its population (women), then it doesn’t deserve to continue existing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 01:32 PM
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I mean, there are other factors to consider. Many hookups involve a man and woman who have known each other as friends or at least long-time acquaintances. Some of those couples keep it casual while others decide to keep dating and end up in long-term relationships. With dating apps, people presumably don’t know each other. Many women are going to choose not to have sex on the first date with a guy from an app for the simple reason that she has to prioritize her safety. I know that I wouldn’t be…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 01:06 PM
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This is something you’ve concocted out of nowhere. And regardless, you can’t complain about losing half your assets if you insist on marrying a tradwife. 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 06:48 PM
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Personality is far more important to me than status.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:02 PM
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I’m getting the impression that OP is referring more to arranged marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 01:01 PM
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If you’re worried about being fucked over in a potential divorce, then why don’t you consider marrying a woman with a career who earns good money? You’d want to make sure to have the conversation with her ahead of time about her intention to continue working after children. But marrying a financially independent woman with her own assets would be the way to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 02:30 PM
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" I genuinely dont think i could have a LTR with a woman who doesn’t have the same morals as me especially on topics like marriage, divorce, how to raise children." This is very reasonable, in my opinion. I feel the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 01:04 PM
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I don't doubt that what you're saying is true for some liberal women. I was just pointing out that your claim that all, or even most, conservative men won't date liberal women is false. I have personal experience with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 01:03 PM
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We are not talking about the male suicide rate here. We are specifically talking about men like you claiming that women choosing not to date people are sadistic and misandrist, which is obviously an absurd argument on your part.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 01:00 PM
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The red pill primary focuses on dating and sex strategies, while simultaneously bitching about women and feminism. How would voting for Trump help men with dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 12:06 PM
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Poor men date poor women all the time. They just typically don't date educated middle-class women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 10:38 PM
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All of the data suggests otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 10:29 PM
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You don't speak for all men. I've never dated a man who didn't care about my education and career.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 10:15 PM
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In nearly half of American marriages, the husband is not the breadwinner. In 29% of marriages, the husband and wife earn about the same income. These marriages are egalitarian. In 16% of marriages, the wife is the breadwinner. Husbands and Wives Earn Similar Wages in a Growing Share of Marriages | Pew Research Center Your beliefs about marriage and provision are outdated.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 10:12 PM
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Regarding your comment about “ancient sexual instincts” and equality, there is research available that suggests ancient people were far more egalitarian than people who came later. Traditional gender roles as we know them now largely developed with the advent of agriculture. Hunter-gatherers likely did not rigid gender roles. For example, there is evidence that the women not only did much of the gathering, but also some of the hunting.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 05:41 PM
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A woman choosing not to date a man does not make her “sadistically misandrist.” I don’t want to date the vast majority of people, including women and men under 35 or over 55. That does not mean that I hate those individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 07:58 PM
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As a liberal woman, I can assure you that many conservative men very much do not care and will still attempt to date us liberals.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 07:50 PM
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Plenty of people cut off or disown their immediate family members who aren’t their spouses because they are are/were abusive or toxic in some way. I’m constantly reading stories from people who stopped interacting with their parents or siblings as a result of abusive or toxic behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 12:50 PM
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I have never once encountered a woman making the claim that withholding sex is a form of domestic abuse, and I spend a decent amount of time perusing female-centered groups on FB and occasionally subs here on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 07:00 PM
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Wow, that’s an interesting story!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 05:25 PM
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There are lots of women who don’t have college degrees. Some examples of jobs that women without college degrees often have include: nursing assistants, hairdressers, teaching paraprofessionals, childcare workers, home health aides, and retail workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 05:16 PM
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I’m not suggesting that I would want to cover the whole bill for myself and my date. Instead, I would prefer to split the check with my date. This is incredibly common in Western European countries, so it’s certainly feasible.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 02:54 PM
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There are many older men who want a connection with someone their own age. Again, that may be hard for you to believe, but it’s the truth. I mean, Jeff Bezos is one of the richest men in the world and he’s rumored to be marrying his long-term girlfriend who is in her mid (or maybe even late) fifties very soon. Of course there are men who will only date younger women all the way through their 60s and 70s. I don’t deny that. I’m just telling you that lot of men (and high-value men at that) prefer …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 02:41 PM
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Yeah it’s weird. And I’m really not trying to come across as boasting or anything, but it’s so silly when manosphere types insist that “post-wall” women like myself are rejected left and right or only hit up for casual sex. That’s just not the reality of the situation. Sure, there are undoubtedly plenty of older men who will exclusively date younger women, but there are also plenty of men who don’t want a long-term relationship with someone a decade or more younger than themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 02:37 PM
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I just don't agree with this. I think it's perfectly reasonable for a high-value (for lack of a better term) man to go into a dating situation with an egalitarian mindset and wish to split the bill. I don't think any less of a guy for preferring to do this. I prefer that arrangement myself. Now, I do think there are guys who want to split the bill but are also the type who want a traditional relationship, but one in which the woman works full-time, does all the household chores/cooking, and defe…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 12:45 PM
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We give other women compliments to be kind. It's really not any deeper than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 12:44 AM
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Plenty of people do just fine dating when they don't have these specific traits and qualities that you've outlined. For example, I'm 45 and have no shortage of men wanting to date me long-term (not just casual hookups). Lots of men around my own age, for example, already have kids and aren't looking to have more. They want to settle down with a woman their age. This may be incomprehensible to you, but that doesn't change this fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 12:38 AM
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Yeah, I can agree with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 12:27 AM
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What the fuck?! Um, yeah no. I was with you on the first part of your comment. But the solution is not to recruit male teachers with the prospect of paying them more than female teachers. Obviously, dude. The actual solution is to increase the pay for ALL teachers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 02:21 PM
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In order to attract men to the teaching profession, the pay needs to increase.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 09:38 PM
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So true. Mental health struggles are nothing new; it’s just that in the past, people with mental health issues were either shamed and ostracized (and sometimes literally institutionalized for absurd reasons) or they simply kept quiet about their struggles and pretended to be okay due to social stigmatization.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 09:31 PM
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I am only speaking for myself and not any other women. Clearly my thought process largely hinges on the trauma I’ve experienced. I would imagine, though, that most women have a heightened sense of hyper-vigilance when in certain situations similar to those I previously described (walking to a car alone at night, for example). It could partially be a sort of innate fear, and partially fear that has developed as a result of seeing news stories or hearing other women describe their experiences. Whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 05:24 PM
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I was vigilant around any strange man regardless of race. It’s not about race or ethnicity but the fact that 99% of men can overpower me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 05:15 PM
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This is so very true. I was a teen in the 90s before the internet took off and social media was really even a thing and can confirm that young people were usually out and about doing all sorts of things. It was virtually unheard of for a young person to stay home all weekend, much less all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 12:23 PM
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Umm, college degrees aren't handed to women, either. They have to work for them, just like men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 10:55 PM
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I would not consider that to be a social construct, no. In my view, a social construct would mean that I felt fear as a result of consuming media about stranger attacks/assaults or hearing stories from other women and then building anxiety and fear as a result of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 04:59 PM
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And because you mentioned race, I’ll add that I’ve been victimized by both a white and a black man. The bike path incident involved a white man and the drugging incident involved a black man.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 03:10 PM
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I can only speak for myself personally, but most of my fear and apprehension comes from lived experience rather than something innate to my being. In my late teens and very early twenties, before any of the above incidents happened to me, I didn’t have nearly the same level of fear. I even walked across a very large college campus a couple times late at night by myself without much of a concern for my safety. I’d go for jogs on bike paths without giving a second thought. That all began to change…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 03:06 PM
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There are people—men and women both—who make sex videos and release them for public view. There are plenty of male porn stars after all. So I’m not sure why you’re making this a gendered thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 03:01 PM
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Just a reminder that women are not a monolith and we all have different preferences. For me, personally, I do not need a guy to be over 6’. In fact, the ideal height for me (I’m 5’4”) is around 5’10” or 5’11”. I would consider dating guys over maybe 5’7”, as I just want my partner to be a few inches taller than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 12:49 PM
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To be fair, all of those men you mentioned are both conservatives AND misogynists. 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 07:19 PM
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It’s not just socially constructed, though. Many women, myself included, have actually had awful experiences with men who were strangers. In my life, I have been assaulted on a bike path, drugged in a bar, and followed down a road at night. I have every reason to be wary of strange men. With that said, the vast majority of my encounters with strange men have been perfectly fine. But those few men who have bad intentions change everything for us women about how we navigate life in terms of lookin…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 05:30 PM
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What are you taking about? I see self-proclaimed man whores brag about the number of women they’ve slept with all the time on social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 12:57 PM
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They are all disgusting for participating in such an event.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 12:55 PM
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Yes, that’s what I’m getting at. The guilt and shame surrounding sex can be so all-encompassing for women raised with purity culture BS that it impacts their married sex lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 12:49 PM
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And something else to consider is that a lot of religious women were raised in evangelical homes where purity culture is emphasized. There’s often a lot of trauma and uneasiness or even guilt surrounding sex for women brought up in that type of environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 06:46 PM
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Sleeping with 20 people over the course of one’s life in no way compares to fucking 100 dudes in one day. 🙄 Those women you’re referring to also represent a minority of women. There are also guys who have body counts of 20+, and yet there’s nobody in this sub calling for men to be subjugated because those promiscuous guys exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 06:31 PM
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Yes, that’s my point. OP is focusing on an extreme outlier situation involving one single woman. That’s why his argument is absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 06:28 PM
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I appreciate the kind words!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 03:06 PM
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I hope CBT turns out to be tremendously helpful for you! I haven’t attempted therapy in a few years, but it’s definitely something I need to prioritize. I take medication, and while it helps with my generalized anxiety, it’s not really made much of a difference for the social anxiety. I think I’ll make an appointment this week with a therapist!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 06:37 PM
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This is my main issue. I’ll be 45 in two weeks, and I have no issues attracting men of all ages. But I’ve developed godawful social anxiety over the years, and I truly can’t imagine ever actually dating again. Like, I’m pretty much a hermit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 05:20 PM
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In July of 2006, I was nearing the end of a 5-mile jog on a bike path when I was attacked by a random man. I passed by him at the beginning of my jog and thought nothing of it. He waited in the adjacent wooded area for me to loop back around the path and attacked me from my side, tackling me to the ground. He was on top of me, trying to stifle my screams and simultaneously move me into the wooded area on the other side. If it weren't for a passerby coming by, I would have been raped and possibly…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 04:53 PM
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This is false. All of the data suggests that very few women have a lot of sex partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:58 PM
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There are 168.6 million women in the United States. That means less than 1% of American women (0.83%) have Only Fans accounts. So again, the vast, vast majority of women are not doing any kind of sex work.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:57 PM
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Lol I just provided examples of the opposite of what you’re saying, and you went on a rant fantasizing about something that never happened/happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:52 PM
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Guys who have led a similar lifestyle are the ones who are more likely not to care about. Most of the people in my friend group were party types when they were younger, and they all married men who were also partiers. Neither my husband nor myself were saints in our twenties.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 06:57 PM
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Yes. My own husband left me for another woman earlier this year after two decades together because I had fallen ill with a chronic health condition, which wasn’t fun for him. If I had been a stay-at-home mom, I would be totally fucked right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 12:38 PM
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Because the man could leave the wife for another woman, turn out to be abusive, become disabled, or have any number of other things happen It’s very difficult to reenter the workforce after a significant gap in employment, and a woman who has been a SAHM for 10 or 15 years is probably going to struggle a great deal after divorce. This is especially true if she married young and doesn’t have a college education or much prior work experience. I’ve joined probably a dozen divorce support groups in …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 05:48 PM
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I actually do think you’re showing some self awareness here, which is a step in the right direction! I’m on social media too much, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 06:04 PM
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Here’s the thing, though: A woman is much more likely to be attacked while walking alone at night or in a remote area. In that case, it doesn’t matter if she has a partner because he won’t be there to protect her.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 03:53 PM
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“To those accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression.”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 03:37 PM
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You cannot be serious. Out of 4 billion women, there are bound to be a small percentage of completely unhinged ones. This porn star went viral precisely because what she’s doing is so outrageous and unusual. This is like saying that men need to be restrained and subjugated because Jeffrey Dahmer existed. 🙄 The vast, vast majority of people are not doing things like fucking hundreds of people per day or killing and consuming the flesh of one’s murder victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 03:31 PM
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Let me guess: Masculine men complain about women and feminism on a regular basis. Is that how you define masculine men?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 07:42 PM
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OF COURSE you weren’t told that some women liked raunchy or rough sex when you were a boy. You were a child, so that’s not exactly something that children are going to be privy to. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 12:56 PM
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I’m probably the wrong person to say this to. My own husband just left me earlier this year to be with another woman (an old girlfriend of his from like 20 years ago). Had I not been working this whole time and instead been a homemaker, I would have been massively screwed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 12:46 PM
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Yep. I found this article to be very interesting. Rollo Tomassi vs Evolutionary Psychology - Date Psychology
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 11:03 PM
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No, it doesn't. Rollo Tomassi vs Evolutionary Psychology - Date Psychology
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 11:02 PM
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OP has discovered that women are people and not mythical angelic creatures! Oh, and he also discovered that many women enjoy a variety of sex acts and positions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 08:58 PM
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We need to squash this myth that most women are housewives right now. For the love of God, it’s not 1950 anymore. All of the data shows that the majority of women work full-time jobs, including married women who are mothers. What you’re describing here in your post is not the norm for the majority of couples, and it hasn’t been for decades now.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 05:39 PM
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How are you in a position to define the top 20% of men? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 02:22 PM
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Yes, that’s also true. One fact doesn’t negate the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 02:18 PM
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Nah, that’s not the answer. But being entirely financially reliant on one’s spouse is just a bad idea, for the most part, unless there is a prenup in place.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 02:15 PM
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Doesn't this seem realistic, though? If the issue is that struggling guys want the more attractive women, specifically, then yeah, it would make sense that they'd likely need to be on the more attractive end themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 11:43 PM
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I agree with him to an extent. Most women do not have a "must be over 6'" requirement. I'm a relatively attractive woman with options, and I've never had this requirement. It's the same with most of the other women I know. With that being said, I do think there is a minimum height for some women that's closer to 5'7" or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 11:32 PM
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You're referring to a dating app survey from like a decade ago. And what guys always conveniently leave out when mentioning this statistic is that women still messaged those guys they didn't automatically label as attractive, so clearly many of those women still expressed interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 11:07 PM
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Even with marriage, it's still quite risky for the majority of women. Statistics show that women are far more likely to end up in poverty or severely struggling after divorce than men. Average couples don't have a great deal in assets, so your average stay-at-home mom/housewife ends up in a difficult financial predicament following divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 01:58 PM
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No, absolutely not. I’ve never preferred men with a lot of money or chased after them. I care far more about physical/sexual attraction and personality. Money does not produce desire for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 12:15 PM
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You can phrase it out however you want. The point remains that husbands are not the sole or primary breadwinners in nearly half of marriages. In those egalitarian marriages, neither partner can refer to themself as the “primary” breadwinner because both of them are on equal footing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 12:55 PM
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Hygiene is critical for everyone, full stop. With that said, I’ve never been with a guy who regularly smelled like BO, even though none of my past partners shaved their armpits.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 01:06 PM
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I shave my legs, pits, and pubic area simply because I can’t stand the feeling of hair growing back in. But I don’t care what other people do, and it’s ridiculous of OP to suggest that only women are unhygienic if they choose not to shave.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 01:01 PM
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A very, very small percentage of women have ever done any form of sex work. In reality, young women are killing it in higher education and the workforce, as I’m sure you’re aware but pretend to be oblivious about.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 12:50 PM
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Do you have evidence to suggest that home ownership amongst single women is largely due to being widowed or gaining inheritances?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 12:45 PM
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These guys always conveniently forget that egalitarian relationships are the norm these days rather than the exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 11:41 AM
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Most women work and have their own incomes. Only 26% of mothers are stay-at-home parents. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/08/03/almost-1-in-5-stay-at-home-parents-in-the-us-are-dads/#:~:text=Dads%20make%20up%2018%25%20of,the%20US%20%7C%20Pew%20Research%20Center&text=Read%20our%20research%20on%3A,Vaccines And in 45% of American marriages, the husband is not the breadwinner. In those marriages, either the husband and wife earn about the same income or the wife is the breadwinner. http…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 11:35 AM
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This is one of the most absurd posts I’ve ever seen here. I don’t know any men who shave their armpits. You’re essentially insinuating that the vast majority of men are unhygienic, as well as the women who also choose not to shave. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 10:33 PM
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Young women in many metro areas are now out-earning similarly aged men. Furthermore, single women are buying more homes than single men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 05:19 PM
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Let’s reverse roles here: Wives are free to seek sex from other partners so long as they are upfront with their husbands first. Given your stance, you should be a-okay with this. Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 05:10 PM
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Same. I’d venture to say that this is more common than guys here seem to think.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 05:55 PM
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I don’t filter by height or any of the other qualities/characteristics you mentioned. The only thing I really filter for is age, as Im uninterested in dating someone young enough to be my son or old enough to be my dad. Also, I’ve never separated potential dates into categories—hookup/casual vs. serious/long-term. All of my previous relationships started as sort of FWB situationships and progressed to serious, long-term relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 05:42 PM
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Please provide the study showing that more liberal women said it was okay to cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 12:50 PM
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I highly doubt you know many liberal women in real life. Watching social media reels fed to you by various manosphere channels isn’t going to give you an accurate portrayal of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 05:01 PM
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You conveniently neglected to mention the 29% of marriages where the husband and wife earn roughly the same income. But of course you did. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 01:07 PM
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Yeah, I have a couple small tattoos, too. I’m just pointing out that this manosphere perception of most liberal women having this very specific look (that the previous user mentioned) doesn’t really hold up to reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 12:56 PM
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You can find videos of people saying all sorts of crazy things. That doesn’t mean those views are representative of the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 03:08 PM
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Yeah, none of the liberal woman I know look like the caricature you just described, myself included.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 03:01 PM
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This is such a false stereotype. I’m a liberal woman who looks like any other typical woman. Most of the women I know are also liberals who don’t have extravagant hair colors or facial tattoos or piercings and aren’t overweight or obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 12:48 PM
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What does this mean? As a liberal woman, I’m just curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 12:44 PM
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In nearly half of American marriages, the husband is not he breadwinner. In those marriages, either the husband and wife earn roughly the same (29%) or the wife is the breadwinner (16%). So in this day and age, it shouldn’t be too difficult to find women who earn good incomes and already have their own assets.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 07:43 PM
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I'll share a different perspective. I have a son who is almost 15. My husband (son's father) and I are going through a divorce because he decided to have an affair and essentially leave me for the other woman. My son is handling it very well, and he's not at all happy with his father, especially because my ex has suddenly turned very nasty toward me. I share this information not to gloat or make HappyCat feel bad, but to show that every situation is different and every kid will react differently…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 02:33 PM
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I've never really separated guys into categories like that. All of my relationships started out casually as sort of FWB situationships and then progressed to serious, long-term relationships. And no, I was never intimidated by my partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 02:21 PM
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The vast majority of people in general (both women and men) have at least some baggage as they grow older. But everyone deals with their life experiences differently. You might view a specific woman as having baggage, but it may not really affect her like you think it does. Like, I’ve had a handful of long-term relationships. None of those relationships involved drama or trauma, with the exception of my marriage. And even then, it hasn’t jaded me to men (non “pilled”/manosphere men, that is) or …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 03:41 PM
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Most women are not Instagram models/influencers whose entire identities are wrapped up in social media popularity contests.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 05:48 PM
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And yet, when guys were yammering on about the sexlessness rate a couple years ago, they were referring to the General Social Survey from prior to 2022–the exact same survey as I cited. Funny how that works—-the data is useful when it’s convenient for your narrative, and it’s useless when it’s not. You do realize that men can be technically single—meaning not in a serious, long-term relationship—and still be having sex, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 12:37 PM
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The vast majority of young men are not sexless. In fact, only 11% of young men didn’t have sex in 2022, the last year for which there is data on the matter. https://ifstudies.org/blog/is-the-sex-recession-over#:~:text=The%20downward%20trend%20in%20the,slightly%20to%2035%25%20in%202022
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 10:16 PM
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Oh, not me, I am absolutely petrified of spiders. Even the smallest ones!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 10:04 PM
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I've seen men argue that women shouldn't have the right to vote on so many different subs. Can you imagine the uproar if the reverse were happening all over the place?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 04:39 PM
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I keep seeing guys say they've seen posts or comment like what you've mentioned on TwoX or other female-centered subs. But I've never come across such content. Could you link to specific examples of such violently hateful content from TwoX (or another female sub)?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 04:30 PM
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Imagine referring to someone with a career earning a six-figure salary as a "bum." This post is honestly too absurd to address further.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 02:45 PM
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statistically, a woman’s husband or intimate partner is the most likely to assault or abuse her.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 07:43 PM
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The way that you are speaking about women shows that you very much care and are very unhappy with women achieving financial independence.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 05:32 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 07:35 PM
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I would never consider cold-approaching men who are strangers. However, I have been the one to initiate things with two of my exes, both of whom I already knew as friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 01:00 PM
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This is absolutely true as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:29 PM
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Every time guys mention the draft, they conveniently fail to also address this. Conservatives are the ones who want to bar women from signing up for the draft.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:30 PM
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And we have our daily dose of rectally-sourced statistics
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 01:19 PM
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Expand your social circles and meet people organically.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 10:04 PM
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I appreciate the kind words. It’s been a very rough year (I found out this past February), but I’m trying to remain hopeful for the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 05:18 PM
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In order for this to truly protect the homemaker spouse, there would need to be a legal contract put into place ahead of time—a prenuptial agreement, I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 05:16 PM
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So, you asked how it worked in the past. I’m honestly not sure, other than couples remained together even under the worst of circumstances. But take my current situation: My husband recently left me to be with an old girlfriend of his. I have been sick with a chronic health condition for two years, and that wasn’t fun for him so he bailed. If I was a SAHM, I would be absolutely screwed. In fact, I’m in support groups for women who are divorced or in the process of divorcing. Most of the women wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 02:19 PM
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Sure, it seems that you’re describing the more radical, activist type feminists, and I would certainly agree that those women are more likely to remain childless. The majority of us who identify as feminists don’t fit that radical stereotype. We’re just normal people who have left-leaning views.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 01:11 PM
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It’s tough out there for many people. I’ll be the first to admit that dating apps are brutal for a lot of men. I really think dating through social circles is the best way to go, but that is also difficult if you’re an introvert or have social anxiety or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 01:07 PM
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I am a feminist and have a child. Most of the women I know identify as feminists, and a majority of them are married and have one or two kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:11 PM
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While I agree that most women won’t partake in the 4B movement, more people than you think have knowledge of the movement. I’m in dozens of FB groups that are centered on all sorts of topics and interests, and I’m seeing men and women both discuss the movement all over the place.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:01 PM
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Your main premise is false. Most young men are having sex. In the last year for which we have data, only 11% of young men ages 18-29 didn’t have sex. https://ifstudies.org/blog/is-the-sex-recession-over
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:53 PM
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So, this should go for both genders then. If a 350 lb. woman with a very unattractive face asks you out on a date, then you are obligated to go on that date with her. Otherwise you are being mean to all women, and we wouldn’t want to vote your rights away, now would we?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 01:45 PM
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Let’s be honest: When you say women should be “nice” to men or else their rights will be voted away, you really mean that women need to fuck men in order to preserve their rights. Say it with your whole chest. You are directly threatening women with the loss of human rights, and you should say exactly what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 01:40 PM
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What’s the second way that it’s a win for men that’s not publicly discussed?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 08:01 PM
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I subscribe to AskMen as a woman just to get an understanding of men’s point of view. I don’t think this is unusual.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 01:17 PM
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Please provide your peer-reviewed scientific sources that show patriarchy works best for society.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 06:57 PM
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I am not seeing a single woman say “kill all men.”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 12:36 PM
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Yeah, Im certainly not going to condone or justify it. My point is simply that guys will complain about these extremely fringe radfem communities, while completely ignoring the much more common vitriol that comes from manosphere and alt-right spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 12:20 PM
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No. The men I see saying this crap follow it up by mentioning that women are too emotional and can’t be trusted to vote for society’s best interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 12:14 PM
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There’s no excuse. I’m more disappointed in the women who voted for him than the men who did.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 08:52 PM
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The election, specifically, hasn’t changed anything for me. I still want to date men, but I’ve long been uninterested in dating conservative men. As for concerns over pregnancy, that’s not an issue for me since I had a hysterectomy in 2021 for health reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 08:50 PM
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It’s really not all that far-fetched to think that no-fault divorce is on the chopping block. Vance and other Republican lawmakers have said they want to do away with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 08:47 PM
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Same. I have never once come across that statement while on social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 04:53 PM
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I’ve seen “repeal the 19th amendment” no less than a dozen times on various social media just today alone. There are apparently reports of teenaged boys in schools yesterday saying “your body, my choice,” which was echoed by the misogynistic white supremacist Nick Fuentes after Trump’s victory. These are not super rare, fringe sentiments. It’s all over the place. And yet, I can’t recall ever actually seeing someone say “kill all men,” outside of men’s rights activists sharing posts from radfem e…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 04:50 PM
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Can you imagine the uproar if women started threatening to remove men’s rights? I mean, some of you lose your ever-loving minds when a woman merely calls a man an insulting name. That is nowhere even remotely as problematic as threatening to remove rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:46 PM
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I’m just never sure on this sub. But thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 11:48 AM
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Yes, most women aren’t corporate boss babes. But most married women are mothers who do have normal careers. Only 26% are stay-at-home moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:14 AM
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If you are being genuine, thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 09:39 PM
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Oh, okay. Thank you for the clarification!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 01:59 PM
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No, but I’m older and have had a lot of dating experience. These echo chambers make it seem like men and women hate each other, but I’ve never really experienced this in real life. I should add that I haven’t dated again since the manosphere became popular, so having learned about the pills, I will definitely be more cautious when dating this time around (I’m just now going through a divorce).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 01:29 PM
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As the mother of a boy, those comments are downright awful. I would never in a million years want to trade in my son for a girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 10:16 PM
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Those issues that the previous user mentioned do affect men more than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 07:38 PM
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My husband and I sent our son to an in-home daycare provider when he was little, and he loved it. It really worked out great for our family. Also, congratulations and I’m wishing you all the best!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 07:20 PM
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Most women are able to continue working throughout their pregnancy. And then they take maternity leave and go right back to work. That’s exactly what I did, and that’s the norm rather than the exception. I worked in the office until a week before I delivered my son, and then worked from home for a few days before delivering my son. I took two months of paid maternity leave and returned to work. Every woman that I worked with who had children did pretty much the same thing. (I will say that mater…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 07:11 PM
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This is pretty much how my dad explained things growing up. When I was a teenager, he wasn’t that stereotypical father who was threatening toward boys I dated. And he was a big dude, too, but he never played the overprotective dad role. Most importantly, he instilled in me the importance of education and financial dependence.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 02:06 PM
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Perhaps they aren’t paranoid and are simply uninterested in chatting with you. That seems to be the more likely reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 09:05 PM
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Plenty of men value women beyond just sex. What a misogynistic thing to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 08:19 PM
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I really don't think this is happening with any sort of statistically meaningful frequency. Instead, I'd say there are the following two factors at play: 1.) Some young women are dating guys a few years older than themselves. 2.) Some young couples disagree on their relationship status. In a time where FWB situationships are common, it's not far-fetched to speculate that some young men consider themselves to be in a casual FWB relationship with their female partner, while the woman assumes that …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 01:49 PM
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Don’t give up. I really admire your optimistic outlook. And I very much hope you meet a wonderful woman soon!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 04:49 PM
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Yes, I understand that some men are concerned with modesty and virginity. Those men are typically very religious, and they account for a small percentage of men overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 12:27 PM
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More and more couples are in long-term relationships but foregoing marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 09:11 PM
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That’s really not the norm, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 09:03 PM
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Are you familiar with the concept of limerence? If not, you should really look into it. I believe there’s even a sub related to it on.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 06:10 PM
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Nah, I don’t actually spend that much time here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 12:14 PM
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If you are advocating for men not to marry, I will assume you aren’t one to complain about the falling birth rate. Is that correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 06:34 PM
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Interesting. I see far more young conservative talking about wanting to have the traditional relationship dynamic where they stay home and tend to the chores and childcare.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 04:13 PM
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Why do you think it gets media exposure in the first place? Because it’s not normal at all and people find it shocking. Seriously, get a grip. Most women do not lust over serial killers.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 04:08 PM
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Traditional conservative women are the ones who are far more likely to want to be 100% provided for.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 02:28 PM
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Most couples are dual income with both partners working full-time. In that dynamic, couples should be sharing the domestic chores and childcare. It’s really not complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 02:25 PM
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I’m a recovering addict and alcoholic and have been through treatment programs before. As a result, I’ve met hundreds of other recovering addicts and alcoholics from all sorts of backgrounds, from doctors who had painkiller addictions to people with multiple felonies who have spent years in and out of prison. I mention this because through my encounters with female addicts, I learned about why male addicts are far more likely to remain homeless and on the streets. The reason is not because peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 02:20 PM
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I don’t necessarily agree with these other commenters. I’ve been married once, and I don’t ever want to get married again. If both partners are on board with it, I don’t see anything wrong with not marrying.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 01:51 PM
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The data indicates otherwise, so obviously not.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 12:30 PM
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Yeah, I’m in mid-forties and going through a divorce right now. I have a teenaged son. I’d like to date again, but I don’t want to remarry.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 12:20 PM
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Most women are not attracted to serial killers. 🙄 You hear about the women who are obsessed with guys like Wade Wilson precisely because it’s so rare and shocking. The majority of women want nothing to do with a guy like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 12:18 PM
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There are also men who have publicly professed their desire for Casey Anthony and Jodi Arias. So there are crazy people of both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 06:50 PM
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Men here are the ones who claim that most women are in love with serial killers and drug-dealing, violent felons. It’s something we see mentioned in this sub practically every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 06:48 PM
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But as others have said, all women are different. If I’ve made it clear that I’m not interested in the beginning, I mean that and I do not want the guy to continue pursuing me. That, in fact, would make me very uncomfortable. However, some women are probably okay with a bit of a chase.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 05:45 PM
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Yeah, that makes sense. Totally understandable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 04:21 PM
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It’s understandable if you don’t have children of your own. I just wondered if not having to be involved with raising younger children would sway your opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 02:02 PM
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What if you were in your 40s or 50s and the woman had kids but they were adults? Would that charge your opinion on dating a woman with kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 11:25 AM
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The majority of couples have a 2 or 3-year age gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 05:03 PM
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Would you become a stay-at-home husband/father if you could? If not, why would you do so hypothetically as a woman but not a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 05:02 PM
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This is very age-dependent. Between ages 18 and 20, half of young men are virgins. After 22, only 7.85% of men are virgins. After 25, only 1.9% of men are virgins. https://datepsychology.com/are-27-of-young-men-really-virgins-and-why/
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 01:31 PM
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No, I think misandry exists. There are women who genuinely hate all men and wish terrible things upon them. But I think red pillers/manospherians often label women as misandrists for even mentioning bad experiences they’ve had with men, including sexual assault, or for suggesting that they simply don’t want to date men. That’s not misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 12:26 PM
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So, I’m not hearing what MRAs are doing. That was my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 12:07 PM
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What are MRAs doing, specifically, to address the higher education issue with boys and young men? Shouting about women and feminism does not constitute doing anything productive. So what are some actionable steps they are taking to address the problem? I’d honestly be interested to hear more about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 06:50 PM
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Yeah, seems to be the case for some. It’s just absurd to blame this on women and feminism. Boys have to actually take the initiative to apply to college in order to be admitted. We need to find out why more boys and young men don’t view college as an appealing prospect.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 06:47 PM
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Then he wasn’t a friend in the first place, so good riddance to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 04:36 PM
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“That my friend is the origin of misogyny.” You can’t be serious with that claim. Misogyny has existed for millenia, long before women even attained equal rights. Misogyny is usually rooted in feelings of male superiority and failure to view women as people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 04:35 PM
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Men falling behind in higher education is certainly a problem that needs to be addressed. But why is this the fault of feminism?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 02:43 PM
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Actually, the majority of women—American women, at least—do identify as feminists. According to a recent Pew Research survey, 61% of American women describe themselves as feminists. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2020/07/07/61-of-u-s-women-say-feminist-describes-them-well-many-see-feminism-as-empowering-polarizing/
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 02:39 PM
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Again, the women those guys get with are generally troubled themselves. I’m a long-term recovering alcoholic. When I was in rehab years ago, I met hundreds of fellow recovering addicts and alcoholics. And you’re right that some of the guys were popular with the women. But the women were just like them—they often had criminal records and were recovering addicts and alcoholics themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 12:15 PM
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Most of us married guys who led similar lives as we did. I don’t know one woman who ended up marrying the inexperienced beta bucks type that the manosphere mythologizes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 12:12 PM
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Yeah, this describes me well. This discussion and the comments are so interesting to me, because I'm the opposite of a late bloomer. I was very popular and sociable in high school and college (really all through my twenties), and now I'm quite introverted and don't really socialize with anyone outside of my family. I developed social anxiety over the last decade, and I fear that I will never break out of my shell again.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 06:29 PM
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And what I’m saying is that there are plenty of men who do value those things. It’s important to them when vetting women early on while dating. The type of men who say they couldn’t care less if a woman is a cashier or a lawyer are typically not going to be viewed as great dating prospects.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 05:00 PM
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Where are you getting your information from that these violent men are dating educated, middle-class or higher women? Rage-bait manosphere content does not count as evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 04:55 PM
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Who do you think those violent men with felony records are dating? It’s typically not the college-educated woman with a good career who has her life together. No, those men usually date and fuck women who have a criminal history, drug/alcohol issues, or trauma from an abusive past.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 01:15 PM
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Major yikes here. 😬
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 12:15 PM
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I’m often told the same thing when I discuss dating in my forties.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 10:15 PM
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Nobody is saying that one should be attracted to a potential partner’s career. But there is generally an expectation that one will care about, and be supportive of, their partner’s career and accomplishment.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 06:43 PM
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Are you serious? Those things are a fundamental part of a person’s life. Of course they are important.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 06:38 PM
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Because a person’s career, educational background, and social standing are all important aspects of their life and who they are. When a guy says he doesn’t care about those things, it really comes across as though he doesn’t care about a woman’s accomplishments and experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 05:15 PM
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It’s not about trying to buy happiness. It’s about making sure that we have secure employment and income in the event that something goes wrong in our relationship or marriage. Being entirely financially dependent on someone else is such a terribly risky thing to do. Most of us personally know at least woman who was a SAHM and blindsided by divorce, and then ultimately left in a horrible predicament.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 02:39 PM
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Same. The only girls I knew when growing up who were encouraged by their parents to strive to be housewives were raised in super religious homes. And this was like 30 years ago, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 02:29 PM
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Yeah, I don’t know what these religious organizations expected to happen. When you’re told that your primary purpose is to serve as a “helpmeet” for your husband, it’s not exactly very appealing to many young women..
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 12:11 PM
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Well, lived experience is absolutely relevant for the vast majority of people. In July of 2006, I was attacked while jogging on a bike path. If it weren’t for a passerby coming along seconds after I was thrown to the ground, I would have been raped and possibly even worse. (My attacker was apprehended and went on to serve 3.5 years out of an 8-year sentence.) A year later, I was drugged and raped by yet another man who was a stranger. I never reported this incident because I had been in a bar, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 05:05 PM
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She did not have an affair with Willie Brown. He had been separated from his wife for more than a decade when he started dating Harris. Please research your claims before spouting false information. https://www.factcheck.org/2024/08/posts-mislead-about-harris-romance-with-willie-brown/ https://www.reuters.com/article/world/fact-check-kamala-harrisandwillie-brownhad-a-relationshipover-adecadeafte-idUSKBN26Y2RJ/
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 03:38 PM
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This is the main reason why being a tradwife is so risky, and why many women advise younger women to seriously consider the risks involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 02:36 PM
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Yes, women are leaving organized religion. https://theweek.com/religion/young-women-leaving-church https://www.americansurveycenter.org/newsletter/young-women-are-leaving-church-in-unprecedented-numbers/
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 02:32 PM
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There are significant biological differences between men and women. Even a shorter, thin man can overpower the vast, vast majority of women. Also, you don’t get to speak for women and their own experiences and concerns.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 12:20 PM
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The vast, vast majority of men can overpower the vast, vast majority of women. I’ve read that by the time most teen boys are like 14, they are stronger than the majority of adult women. So, size really doesn’t matter so much. A short, thin man is still going to have a very significant strength advantage over most women due to biological differences.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 12:15 PM
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You can choose not to believe me, and you won’t because what you’re hearing doesn’t conform to your preconceived worldview about only men being screwed over. The point that most people are making here is that shitty behavior isn’t exclusive to women. There are men who do shitty things, too. It’s really a very simple concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 07:53 PM
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Lol I’ve only known about his affair since February of this year, and neither of us formally filed until this last month. And no, I’m physically unwell. I have a severe and chronic GI condition that leaves me nauseous and in pain most of the time. I have bowel endometriosis and require multiple surgeries to excuse the rogue tissue, but it always returns.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 07:50 PM
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I don’t see women here saying they want tall and strong men for protection reasons. Many women like those physical traits because they are attractive, not because they require protection.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 07:46 PM
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I’m going to add to my previous comment that I wrote to you about my husband leaving me: I’m 5’4” and 120 pounds, and don’t look much different body-wise now than I did 20 years ago. My husband still left me for another woman who is the same age as me and about 30 pounds heavier than me. Everything that you’ve said is just flat-out wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 05:19 PM
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WRONG. My soon-to-be ex-husband is leaving me for an ex-girlfriend of his because I’ve been sick with a chronic health condition for a couple years, and that’s not fun for him, so he bailed. He’s still very much attracted to me, though, and continues to try to sleep with me any day when I’m not feeling terribly unwell (he and I still live together while the divorce is pending). And I’m in online support groups for women who are going through exactly what I’m going through that have tens of thous…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 05:13 PM
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Most couples will go their entire lives without needing to protect one another in a life-or-death scenario. This is such a silly thing for dudes to harp on. It’s also 2024 and anyone can learn how to use a weapon for self-defense. It’s not like we are living in the Middle Ages when men did often need to use their brute strength to protect their loved ones from warring tribes or wild animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 05:05 PM
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Only 26% of married women are stay-at-home parents. Furthermore, in 45% of American marriages, the husband is not the breadwinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:15 PM
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I don’t necessarily disagree, but can you elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:11 PM
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“Women don’t do any meaningful work…” This is another brain-dead take. Nobody is going to take you seriously with comments like that, my dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:27 PM
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I think for a lot of women, it’s not even so much about the orgasm gap as it is safety. It often doesn’t occur to men just how risky it is for women to meet up with men we don’t know very well.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 12:13 PM
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This is a wild take, considering that countries that don’t have equal rights and opportunities have far worse outcomes for basically every measurable factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 10:51 PM
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This is inaccurate. In 2022, the rates of sexual activity among young people reached highs not seen in 25 years. Only 12% of young women and 11% of young men didn’t have sex that year. I don’t think the day is out for 2023 yet, unless someone can find it. https://ifstudies.org/blog/is-the-sex-recession-over#:~:text=The%20downward%20trend%20in%20the,slightly%20to%2035%25%20in%202022
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 05:33 PM
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This is an important distinction. I would imagine that some young guys view their relationships more as FWB-type situationships, while their female partners consider themselves to be in serious, long-term relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 05:29 PM
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Yes, I understand the concern some guys have about being the safe/reliable option. I just don’t think this happens nearly as often as some men here think it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 11:47 AM
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My thoughts as well. This guy has zero clue what he’s talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 03:14 PM
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I mostly agree. One exception to this would be Only Fans or similar cam work-type platforms where the content creators and subscribers can privately interact with another.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 12:19 PM
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Just wanted to say that I’m cool with house clothes and actually prefer that over more formal wear.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 03:29 PM
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Same preference here
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 03:28 PM
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I honestly don’t care about fashion much at all. I’ve never dated a guy who was big into fashion, and that’s totally fine by me. T-shirts and basketball shorts/pants or cargo shorts/pants are perfectly okay. I think I actually prefer a guy dressed down like that over a guy who dresses up more.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 03:27 PM
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I couldn’t agree more!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 12:26 PM
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It’s hilarious that you think most men don’t have any negative traits while most women do. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 12:20 PM
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In reality, both men and women who have all sorts of negative traits (and what’s considered negative is often subjective) end up in relationships, and typically with equally “flawed” partners. This isn’t a gendered issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 04:40 PM
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Sure, and women should discipline their husbands when they get out of control.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 01:07 PM
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Huh? Plenty of those types of women are in relationships and even married. So clearly, you’re wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 12:57 PM
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Do you hear that, men? You are not alpha-sigma-gamma-delta enough if you don't discipline your wives like they're your children!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 12:05 AM
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This simply isn't true. Most women will acknowledge that there are plenty of shitty (even abusive) women out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 12:01 AM
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It always strikes me as odd that so many guys here seem to think that the only ways to date are either through the dating apps or by cold-approaching complete strangers. Throughout most of history, most people dated through their social circles or through common places of interaction, like school, college, the workplace, church, or hobby groups. That is still a far more common way to date than through cold approaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 05:30 PM
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Women could do the same thing. If you’re talking about using violence to enforce something, a woman could do the same thing to a man and then be apprehended, charged, convicted, and punished. You are not special because you have a dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 10:48 PM
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Many feminists advocate for either abolishing the draft altogether or, if that’s not possible, then for adding women to the draft.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 03:28 PM
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I agree. I’ve seen some things on TwoX that I thought were outrageous. I should probably be more proactive in calling out harmful or inaccurate information.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 12:24 PM
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As with many groups, the most radical feminist voices often tarnish the reputation of the rest of us who, as you’ve said, are just ordinary people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 06:47 PM
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Plenty of men like tattooed women and don’t share your view, so clearly you can’t speak for everyone. Your personal opinion is not a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 05:26 PM
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Yeah, I’ve seen many feminist women condemn Heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 05:19 PM
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Such a sweet story. I’m so glad they got to enjoy most of their final years together.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 02:23 PM
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This is so lovely for your grandma! I’ve heard so many stories of elderly people meeting their partners in assisted living communities or retirement homes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 12:37 PM
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My husband left me for a woman the same age as me. And he’s a stereotypical Chad type and easily could have dated a much younger woman. Many guys care about looks but also having things in common with their partners. A 41 year-old isn’t going to have much of anything in common with a 22 year-old.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 05:41 PM
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Class issues aren’t discussed enough in this sub. Lower-income people in general tend to not have a lengthy list of standards they expect when seeking out partners. A quick trip to Walmart in literally any town or city will make it immediately evident that people don’t need to be anywhere near perfect in order to date and get into relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 05:26 PM
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Honestly, the messages I get are very respectful most of the time. I’ve never had a guy send a dick pic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 01:02 PM
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It’s unfortunate that all male virgins are sometimes lumped into the same category as misogynistic incels. I disagree with shaming men for their lack of sexual experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 02:51 PM
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Sorry for the delay! Yes to everything u/fluttertutt has said. I get a lot of generic messages from guys: “Hey there!” or “Hi! How are you doing?” or “Beautiful!” There’s nothing inherently wrong with the generic messages. However, a guy who takes the time to read my bio and prompts and start with something more personalized is far more likely to get my attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 12:10 PM
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Brute force. There's no denying that men are superior in terms of strength and physicality. However, men have never been inherently more intelligent than women. Men simply forbade women from fully participating in education and the workforce until relatively recently.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 11:26 PM
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If people have recently told you these things on Reddit, you should be able to link to threads from your comment history so that others here can see what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 10:50 PM
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No, of course not. I have seen some people say that guys who haven't had a relationship by a certain age (say, 30) are a potential yellow flag, as some speculate as to why someone has made it that far without any relationship experience. And many would wonder about a 30+ year-old woman without any relationship experience, too. But I think most rational people would take each person on a case-by-case basis. An older virgin may have any number of reasons that aren't immoral in nature as to why the…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 10:45 PM
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Yeah, I get messages from guys I haven’t matched with all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 07:04 PM
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Thank you so much for the kind words! I’ve been sick for about a year and a half with a condition that primarily impacts my gastrointestinal system. I spend much of the time nauseous, constipated, and sometimes in pain. I just had a colonoscopy and endoscopy performed two days ago, and they discovered significant inflammation all over my stomach. They also removed and biopsied a couple polyps. So I’m just waiting to see what my next steps might be. And that’s great that you and your partner both…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 06:58 PM
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I do my hair, skincare, and makeup every single day, even if I’m not going somewhere. I just feel more put together and ready for my day. Now, I don’t dress up, though, unless I’m going somewhere. I know many women who maintain their appearance regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 05:39 PM
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Yeah, OP skipped over a few things. Many women have long hair, which requires a good bit of upkeep. Every other day I wash and condition my hair, and then spend about 10 minutes drying it and 20 minutes curling it. I also go to the salon once every other month to get it colored and highlighted. And then there’s my multi-step skincare routine, which I do morning and night. I rotate through about & different products. And in the morning, I spend about 10-15 minutes applying makeup. I also workout,…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 05:36 PM
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It would seem that there are more women than men who can be classified as morbidly obese. However, that doesn’t change the fact that the overall percentage of men who are either overweight or obese is similar to that of women. It’s just that on the highest end of the spectrum, there are more women who are severely obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 09:17 PM
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As a thin woman, I’m only interested in dating men who are fit. And it’s very reasonable that you, as a fit man, want to date a woman similar to yourself. But let’s not pretend that there aren’t a lot of fat men out there. I always roll my eyes when guys online complain about there being too many overweight or obese women, when statistics show that an equivalent number of men are overweight and obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 06:30 PM
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Interesting, because most of the men I’ve known and dated have very much cared about my education and career. Perhaps it all depends on what kind of people one surrounds themself with.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 06:16 PM
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It’s not a positive thing that many men don’t care about a woman’s career or other particulars of her life. This often means that they don’t care much about the woman as a person, including her passions, accomplishments, and interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 05:12 PM
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Here’s the thing: Parents do not need to be married or even romantically coupled in order for both parents to be involved in their child’s life. Case in point: My husband and I are in the process of divorce (due to his affair), and despite this, he will still be an equally present and involved father in our son’s life. He will have our son half of the time. Most states now have default 50/50 custody in place, unless there is documented abuse or one of the parents simply doesn’t want shared respo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 08:59 PM
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I’m saying that false rape allegations are awful, but that they are much rarer than actual rapes where the perpetrator goes free and without punishment.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 11:45 AM
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A woman forcing a man to penetrate should absolutely be classified as rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 11:12 AM
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Oh, for sure. Rape is the most underreported crime, but it also has one of the lowest conviction rates, if not the lowest one.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 06:53 PM
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While these examples are awful, there are far more rapists and sexual abusers who are never even charged with crimes than there are innocent men who were wrongly accused. But you never hear men discussing this part.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 05:38 PM
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Same here, but this was also nearly thirty years ago when I was that age. I was a few weeks shy of turning 17 when I lost my virginity, and I was a bit of a late bloomer compared to my friends and peers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 12:39 PM
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Only 26% of mothers stay home with their children. Most couples now are dual earners.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 04:44 PM
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I’m a recovering addict and alcoholic, so I unfortunately have experience with addiction and know many people who have gone through addiction. For some, jail is preferable to homelessness. You have a roof over your head and you don’t need to worry about finding food. Others may find homelessness preferable to jail. Both situations are obviously awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 12:00 PM
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That’s not how I view attractiveness. There is a small percentage of men that I find very attractive and a small percentage that I think are ugly. In between those extremes, the majority of men are just average in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 11:57 AM
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He also doesn’t seem to understand just how bad alcoholism can be. As a recovering alcoholic, some of the saddest and worst addiction stories I’ve heard in treatment and AA rooms were told by alcoholics. Alcoholism can be every bit as awful as addiction to hard drugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 09:40 PM
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Addicts and alcoholics will sometimes collect them and sell them for drinking or drug money.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 09:37 PM
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Are you serious right now? Homelessness is absolute rock bottom. The only thing lower than homelessness is death.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 09:36 PM
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I disagree. He’s certainly not ugly but rather very average.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 08:04 PM
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In terms of looks, he is not above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 07:31 PM
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Most men still marry and have children, they are just doing so later in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 12:30 PM
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What are you talking about? Do you even have female family members? Men are not “simping” for their mothers, wives, and daughters.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 12:05 PM
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Exactly, they aren’t unique! That was my point in the first place. There are a lot of traditionally masculine men who aren’t conservatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:06 PM
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Lmao, okay dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:05 PM
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More than likely those guys vote Republican because they are extremely wealthy, and we all know that Republicans favor tax breaks for the wealthiest. That doesn’t necessarily mean that they hold conservative values on social issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:58 PM
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I agree with you about clubs but bars are usually a different story.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:33 PM
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Yeah, I should clarify that when I say that these guys are liberal, they aren’t far-left, radical types. Like, they aren’t social justice warriors or whatever. They just vote Democrat and prefer egalitarian relationships. They also support women’s causes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 05:41 PM
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Where are you getting the information that most of pro sports players are conservatives? As for your personal experiences with people you know, it just sounds like we’ve known very different types of athletic men. Maybe it’s due to different areas where we live.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 05:38 PM
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Exactly! I’m from a small rural Midwestern town where the vast majority of people are conservative. And most of those people are either overweight and obese. Now I live in the suburbs of a large city where many of the residents are liberals, and the percentage of men and women who are thin and fit is much, much higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 05:35 PM
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Anecdotes are relevant. And considering that a large chunk of guys in this sub openly admit that they have either zero friends or a very small social circle, it’s likely that they don’t even know enough people in real life to make judgments on this topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 04:40 PM
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Lmao You don’t know these guys, so you have no idea what you’re taking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 04:37 PM
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Listen buddy, a D1 college football player is going to be stronger and more athletic than the vast majority of men. You can cite sources all day long for all I care. I’m simply sharing my experiences, which indicate that some liberals are traditionally masculine in terms of physical prowess.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 04:36 PM
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Again, this has not been my experience, nor has it been my observation of other men I’ve known. My ex-husband, for example, is a life-long Democrat who champions liberal social causes, and he was a collegiate football player. That’s about as traditionally masculine as you can get. Another ex of mine was a star wrestler, and he was also a liberal.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 03:16 PM
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Most of the guys I’ve dated and been in relationships were current or former high school or collegiate athletes who were also liberal. This notion that only conservative men can have traditionally masculine physical features and capabilities is false.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:52 PM
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I think as long as you (universal “you,” not necessarily you specifically) sought out professional escorts rather than street prostitutes, you’d probably be quite safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 01:11 PM
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The majority of men have women in their lives whom they love enough to protect their rights and autonomy should there ever be a group of men come together and try to subjugate women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 12:50 PM
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Statistics show that college-educated people earn more on average than people with a high school diploma or GED. So, if we are measuring success by earned income, then having a college degree is likely to make one more successful than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 04:08 PM
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I hate the process of dating, too, due to my social anxiety. It’s so nerve-wracking. In the past, I always dated guys who were part of my social circle. Now that I’m single again after many years of being married, I am trying the dating apps for the first time, and the thought of going on dates with strangers is so very stressful. So, I completely understand where you’re coming from.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 03:52 PM
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Of course people are deciding whether or not they find a particular person attractive or not. But most are not evaluating prospective dates along some rigid 1-10 rating scale, and then determining whether that person is their “looksmatch.”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 11:54 AM
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Things may end up working out that way, but most people don’t go into dating sorting potential dates by level of attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 07:03 PM
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This is absolutely false. College-educated women are far more likely to remain married long-term than women with only a high school education. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2015/12/04/education-and-marriage/#:~:text=About%20half%20of%20first%20marriages,being%20married%20after%20two%20decades
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 05:26 PM
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It’s most likely that the woman in the relationship would be punished in that scenario. Sometimes it’s the woman’s own family who murders her for bringing shame upon them. This is referred to as an “honor killing.”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 05:20 PM
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It’s much more likely that the woman in the relationship would be punished in that scenario. Sometimes it’s the woman’s own family who murders her for bringing shame upon them. This is referred to as an “honor killing.”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 05:19 PM
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Of course. But red pillers tend to have very high rates of singleness.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 05:10 PM
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I’m pretty sure that’s it’s primarily red-pilled/incel/manosphere dudes simping for random women. It makes sense because those guys are far more likely to be single than blue-pilled normies.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 03:31 PM
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You do realize that the vast majority of women are not Only Fans creators, sugar babies, or involved in any other activities where they receive money from male clients or admirers, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 03:28 PM
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So many guys here fail to realize this. People in the real world are not going around assessing and rating the appearance of potential dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 03:23 PM
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About the homework issue, I can tell you that that’s certainly not the case for my son who is a freshman in high school. He sometimes has two hours of homework per night. He attends a public school in Ohio. Every parent I know says that their kids not only have homework but have more of it than we did when we were in school.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 07:22 PM
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Why are you trying to suggest that you know what women think and how they operate when you are not a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 04:42 PM
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It does seem like the male age skews fairly young here. I’m sure to them women in their 30s and up seem ancient. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 12:33 PM
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Wow, I’m not going to entertain this drivel for long. I’m going to go out in a limb and speculate that you’re not even a parent. And if you by some chance do you have a kid, you clearly aren’t staying home to raise the kid. So save condemnation and condescension. You have zero room to be pointing fingers at others.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:27 PM
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Same here. And I laugh my ass every time dudes here think that most men don't want anything to do with us. They have no idea. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:59 PM
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You seem to be unaware that most mothers work. In fact, only 26% of American mothers are stay-at-home parents. Furthermore, in 45% of American marriages, the husband is neither the sole nor primary breadwinner. In those marriages, either the husband and wife earn roughly the same income or the wife is the breadwinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:40 PM
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You are really outing yourself as not having very many female friends or acquaintances, because lots of women enjoy history and are well-versed on historical matters and events.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:35 PM
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And we have our daily PPD dose of "Women are liars!" It's such a pathetic stance to claim that any data or personal anecdote that doesn't specifically conform to your preconceived beliefs is wrong or fake. It's also intellectually lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:27 PM
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My son had a fabulous time with his little buddies in an in-home daycare and then in preschool. He preferred that over being home stuck with me 24/7, all day, every single day. I also had flexibility in my career to work remotely often and was able to spend plenty of time with my son. Yes, not every single waking hour of the day, but not every family does—or even should—operate that way. Also, the nerve of you, a complete stranger, to insinuate that my son wasn’t raised properly. It takes a trem…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 03:01 PM
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I've had good men in my life, too. I have a great relationship with my dad and my brother, and my teenaged son is just the kindest soul. I have mixed feelings about my soon-to-be ex-husband because he has been a phenomenal father and went above and beyond with sharing the household chores; I can't praise him enough in that regard. However, he ended up having an affair, so there's that. My other exes were all decent, and none of the others cheated or were abusive or anything. Truthfully, my only …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 10:17 AM
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On your second point, it's awful that men are not only not taken seriously when sexually assaulted but are sometimes even outright mocked for coming forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 10:08 AM
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Yikes. Then I certainly hope you're not one who is bitching about the low birth rates. Sounds like you don't like pregnant women and moms at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 09:58 AM
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Most women work full-time jobs, take a couple months of maternity leave (which is protected by law and often paid), and then go right back to work. Only 26% of mothers are stay-at-home parents (and 7% of dads are stay-at-home parents).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 09:57 AM
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I had a career while my son was little. He is a kind, witty, straight-A athlete with a lot of friends now that he's a teenager. Women can absolutely work and raise children with their husbands/partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 09:53 AM
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It's all about control, and men like him who are adamant that they know what's best for women infuriate me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 09:37 AM
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I think there should be a move to recruit more teachers and make the profession more appealing to men. I’m absolutely all on board for that. I disagree that men are being shut out of the profession, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 12:30 AM
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I highly doubt that’s a major factor for most men considering employment options. It’s mostly that teachers don’t get paid worth shit, and teaching isn’t considered a high enough status job.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 07:55 PM
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Men often don’t want to be teachers because the pay is quite low. If we increased wages for teachers, I bet that a lot more men would be interested in choosing teaching as their profession.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 12:41 PM
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Oh, give me a break. The guy is a predator and likely a rapist. Nobody is going to feel sorry for him for outing himself for violating girls and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 09:22 PM
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Seriously? Trump, arguably the most prominent/famous male figure in recent times, is openly sexist. Do you remember when he said, “You can do anything. You can grab them by the pussy”? He was saying that he can basically do anything to women he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 05:40 PM
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Yes, and again, within the 29% of egalitarian relationships, that leaves 55% of marriages with the husband as the sole or primary breadwinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 09:11 PM
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Whatever narrative you want to tell yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 09:10 PM
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I don’t personally have an issue with extreme age gaps so long as the younger partner isn’t super young, like under 22 or 23. A 45 year-old dating a 29 year-old is far different than a 36 year-old dating a 20 year-old. It’s the same age gap, but in the latter example, the younger partner has had barely any life experience as an adult, which makes the situation rife with possibilities of abuse and control.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 08:39 PM
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Oh, yes, those women were just skipping through life, footloose and fancy-free, with no job and no income, waiting for Prince Charming to arrive. 😂🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 01:40 PM
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What do you think women “need” to continue cleaning their homes, cooking, and caring for their children while working full-time jobs?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 01:38 PM
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It’s not even close to the norm, though, and some guys’ obsession with extreme age gaps in manosphere spaces is kind of ridiculous considering that the majority of men will never be in a relationship like that. It’s mostly just fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 01:37 PM
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😂😂Funny how you change your tune when presented with evidence to contradict your claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 01:26 PM
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What value do you think men provide then? Because it sure seems like it's men, not women, complaining about not being able to get dates. Women are the ones primarily choosing not to date. It kinda looks like a whole lot of women don't really see much value in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 10:50 PM
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Attractive men actually benefit more from their good looks in the workplace than women do. Study suggests men benefit more from being attractive in the workplace than women (phys.org)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 10:39 PM
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Statistically speaking, those extreme age-gap relationships are a minority. Only something like 7-10% of all relationships have an age gap of 10 or more years. The aver age age gap is 2.3 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 10:26 PM
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Men need goals and rewards in order to help clean their homes and care for their own children?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 10:22 PM
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You've never encountered a woman who enjoys sex and has a healthy libido? That's unfortunate for you, but most of do enjoy sex very much.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 10:20 PM
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You're not really getting it. Most middle-aged men are simply not desirable to much younger women. Statistics show that extreme age-gap relationships account for only a small percentage of overall relationships. They are not the norm whatsoever. So, what you're suggesting in your post isn't even a possibility for the majority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 10:18 PM
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There’s nothing to debunk. What I said was accurate. Here ya go: https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2023/04/13/in-a-growing-share-of-u-s-marriages-husbands-and-wives-earn-about-the-same/ As you’ll see, in 29% of marriages, the husband and wife earn about the same, which means that there is no sole of primary breadwinner in those marriages. In another 16% of marriages, the wife is the breadwinner. That means that in a full 45% of marriages, the husband is neither the sole or primary breadw…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 07:39 PM
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Research shows that men lie more than women. “Results indicated that men lie more and are more successful lie-tellers than women.” https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8982912/ And another source that arrives at the same conclusion: https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/finding-a-new-home/202301/men-are-more-selfishly-dishonest-than-women?amp
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 05:39 PM
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Can you link to where women in this sub are saying that? Because I’ve never seen that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 05:35 PM
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Wow. I haven’t been following the posts on this sub as frequently as I used to, but those comments are straight-up insane. And it always amuses me when guys who have zero dating and sex experience, and who barely ever interact with women, proclaim to be experts on those very things.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 05:34 PM
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You skipped over the part where I said that they had established successful careers prior to becoming mothers. Many of these women were in their 30s when they had children. What the hell do you think they were doing for the 10-15 years prior? 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 05:02 PM
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I'm a divorced woman who is dating, and this is simply not true. There are a lot of divorced dads out there (especially after age 40), and most of them are looking to date women who are also divorced with children.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 04:03 PM
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"you'll be able to divorce rape him" Why do you automatically assume that her husband is the breadwinner? As of 2022, only 55% of married men are the sole or primary breadwinners of their families. And the figure decreases year-by-year.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 03:51 PM
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That's absolutely not true. I'm a mother and in quite a few mom groups on FB (as well as a divorce group for women), and a large number of SAHMs are well-educated and had successful careers prior to having children and deciding to stay home with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 03:46 PM
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This needs to be repeated here so often because so many of you guys seem oblivious to the fact that women not only work but earn good money now. Anyway, only 55% of men are the sole or primary breadwinner of their families. So in a huge chunk of marriages, the wife is earning as much, or more, money than her husband. Also, the divorce rate for Millenials is much lower than the average for all ages. For them, the divorce rate is only 25%. And this is likely because Millenial women are much more l…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 02:37 PM
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What is a unicorn woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 12:03 AM
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I don’t think of it as a bitch move in the way that the women describe. It’s more like the guy writing the notes after being asked to do so comes across as disingenuous. Now, personally, I’m not a very romantic type of woman and don’t really want those kinds of gestures. My love language is more along the lines of words of affirmation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 09:29 PM
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Shocking, even for this group. I can’t believe what I’m reading in these comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 12:29 PM
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No, not necessarily.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 02:00 PM
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I really don’t think men consider this at all. When having these discussions, it’s just not even on their radar. But as women, we are all too familiar with the potential dangers that come with dating brand new people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 12:57 PM
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I mean, yeah, definitely most domestic violence and violent assaults. I’m not sure about rapes. These things do occur at the hands of strangers or very new acquaintances, though. I’ve been sexually assaulted twice in my life, and in both situations, the guy was a complete stranger to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 12:38 PM
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No, I trust my male relatives and friends because I’ve known them for quite some time and feel safe around them. In my view, the phrase “not all men but always a man” refers to men who are either complete strangers or very new acquaintances.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 10:10 PM
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No, not at all. My husband and I led very similar lifestyles. We were both partiers and both had had a number of relationships and some hookups prior to us getting together.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:57 PM
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The women Pete Davidson dated have far, far more money than he does, especially Kim Kardashian and Ariana Grande. And he isn’t very attractive at all, so it’s not his looks that are carrying him, either. It’s very much likely his personality and sense of humor. I know many of you guys here refuse to believe that personality matters a whole hell of a lot, but it absolutely does.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 07:23 PM
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I fully agree with everything you’ve said!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 07:20 PM
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Yeah, I think OP would be getting less pushback if she had specified that her focus is on red-pill/manosphere guys, not all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 05:49 PM
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This is spot-on. I don’t think I’ve ever thought of it that way, but this absolutely makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 05:42 PM
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Can you elaborate on your position here? There are indeed men who follow through with their claims and are indeed egalitarian partners. My ex-husband was an equally involved father and made sure to do his share of chores.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 05:39 PM
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This is a terrible analogy. Childfree people are not endangering their health.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 01:41 PM
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So, women should be punished for not willingly donating their bodies to random men for sexual purposes?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 07:39 PM
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That probably helps some, but I think his appeal is primarily his personality and sense of humor.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 03:09 PM
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I don’t think Pete Davidson’s success with beautiful female celebrities has much to do with his looks or money. He seems to have a fun, exciting personality and is probably easygoing. It’s likely his charisma and sense of humor that women are drawn to.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 01:37 PM
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Or, ya know, men could not rape, assault, and harass women. But sure, the more logical and ethical solution is to lock up all the women in their homes. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 12:42 AM
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I don’t think he’s necessarily average, but he’s also not on the level of attractiveness as other male celebrities, in my opinion. He’s basically a little above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 06:52 PM
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You are more than welcome to ignore posts and videos of women on social media complaining about bad men they’ve dated. There’s absolutely no need to intervene and control their dating choices, though. It’s none of your business. If social media riles you up so much, disengage and do something else with your time. And let’s be real: The real reason you wish to control women’s dating lives is because you want your own personal girlfriend/wife ordered or forced to be with you. You don’t directly sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 06:38 PM
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Wait, you merely kissed a few women and that’s it? Have you been in any actual long-term relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:45 PM
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The irony of you saying this while talking about removing women’s rights because you can’t get laid is hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:44 PM
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Which is another reason that women should avoid red-pilled men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 03:29 PM
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What? I said that not everyone has glaring mental health issues that would indicate abusive behavior, meaning that I’m agreeing with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 12:56 PM
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Not every abusive person has glaring mental health issues. Some do, some don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 07:50 PM
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Yeah, it’s the same thing with so many topics/issues discussed in this sub. It will never not be amusing to see guys who are chronically online with zero social lives claim to be experts on women, dating, and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 02:46 PM
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I’m so sorry you’re going through all of that. I certainly won’t deny your experiences or somehow turn it around on you. I hope that you are given custody as soon as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 09:58 PM
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This is a load of BS. The majority of men want sex very soon; not just fuckboys. Ask any woman who dates. You wouldn’t know this, because you presumably don’t date men. I have no issue with sleeping with someone early on, nor do I care about being called a hoe. I’m just pointing out that your assumption that only attractive player types want sex early on is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 07:22 PM
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Again, college-educated women have the longest-lasting marriages. This is a statistical fact. It’s irrelevant who files in those minority of marriages that do end.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 07:19 PM
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I’m not referring to history here. I’m talking about guys like you who fantasize about restricting women’s rights, much like they do in certain Middle Eastern countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 07:17 PM
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Interesting, because most men want sex on the first date, or at the very least, the second or third date. So basically, men have this fantasy where women remain pure and innocent their entire lives until they meet them, at which point, those women instantly become hoes—but only for them, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 04:59 PM
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Yeah, I wasn’t aware that there was this vast group of women conspiring against unattractive men. 😂 The truth is, most of us don’t even pay attention to men who aren’t our relatives, friends, or coworkers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 04:51 PM
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You are oblivious to the realities of domestic violence and how law enforcement often handles situations. Considering that DV is extremely high in families of law enforcement officers (cops statistically have higher rates of DV incidents in their own families than that of the general population), it’s well-known that cops often don’t handle DV cases well at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 10:00 PM
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This shit sometimes happen in Western countries, too. Look no further than religious fundamentalist communities in the US. Lori Alexander, who goes by the name The Transformed Wife, on social media, is a blogger/influencer with almost 50K followers on IG alone. Lori encourages women to remain in their marriages, even if they are so toxic and harmful that the women are suffering from abuse. She tells parents and family members of women who are suffering from violence/abuse at the hands of their h…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 09:53 PM
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From what I’ve observed, red pillers used to be primarily about “spinning plates,” or having lots of casual sex with different partners. In the last couple years, though, there seems to have been a shift in red-pill thinking and aims. Now, it seems as though red pillers are all about adopting tradcon beliefs and values. Many of these guys talk about wanting a traditional marriage with a submissive wife who stays home and cares for the kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 06:00 PM
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Of course evil exists in the world. Your future daughter potentially having consensual sex is not evidence of evil whatsoever. You are feigning concern for her safety, when in reality, you just can’t stand the thought of her having her own life and making her own choices. Furthermore, you can’t keep an adult child locked up and isolated because you fear for their safety. It just doesn’t work that way. If that were the case, people would never leave their homes and remain with their parents forev…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 05:37 PM
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I have just never seen comments like that in any forums. I believe you, I just have never seen anything like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 05:28 PM
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Me too!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 05:26 PM
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I have never seen that sentiment expressed anywhere. I’m sure there’s someone, somewhere, who holds that view, but it’s not one that I’ve ever even seen once so it must be incredibly rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 03:54 PM
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Lmao This site is anonymous. And even if it wasn’t, you don’t know anyone hear in real life. You just make up narratives about people to suit your current worldview. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 03:51 PM
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You aren’t concerned about a future daughter’s safety. You just don’t want her to live her own life without your claws latched into everything she does. Fortunately, adults don’t have to do what their parents command, which is a very good thing for those raised in toxic homes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 03:50 PM
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And she very well may just leave the home at 18 with a mentality like that. It would certainly be in her best interest to do so. You can't control adults after all, much to your dismay I'm sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 10:51 PM
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Young women are killing it in higher education and the workforce. And unless you live under a rock, you already know that, but you'd rather pretend to be oblivious for God knows what reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 10:47 PM
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I mean, I have seen some truly outrageous comments in this very sub from red-pillers, so while it might not be a majority opinion, there are some who hold views like the one expressed in the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 10:41 PM
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Definitely hilarious. The middle-aged dude working in accounting is very, very unlikely to have gorgeous 20 year olds lined up to date him. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 05:18 PM
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I think another reason those young women date DiCaprio is that it’s guaranteed to give them lots of publicity which likely helps their modeling (or acting) careers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 01:14 PM
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Yeah, I agree. He’s a public figure more so than a celebrity.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 01:12 PM
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Elon Musk
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 03:39 PM
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Jeff Bezos is dating a woman around the same age as him—she’s on her mid-fifties. So, no, not every man goes after super young women. The media sensationalizes extreme age-gap relationships that celebrities and wealthy people sometimes have, but you don’t hear as much about all of the other famous people who are dating similarly-aged women because it’s not tabloid/paparazzi-worthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 03:28 PM
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For sure, and that’s also why you see more and more of these “pilled” guys advocating for rolling back women’s rights. They romanticize a bygone era when more men were partnered because women needed financial provision.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 03:11 PM
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I’m a woman in my forties and have no shortage of men interested in me—and for actual relationships, not just sex. This is a false narrative. Many men do not want to date someone much younger women. That might not be the case for you, but not all men think like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 07:05 PM
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It does seem like TRP shifted from "spinning plates" to advocating for the tradcon life.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 06:04 PM
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The divorce rates for marriages where the wife is the breadwinner have decreased significantly. "Sociologists found that couples married in the 60s and 70s were 70% more likely to get divorced if the wife was the breadwinner. It looks like society is starting to change because the same research found in couples married in the 90s has only a 4% higher divorce rate if the women earned more." Are marriages of female breadwinners likely to end in divorce? | khou.com
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 04:57 PM
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Sounds like you're one who idealizes regressive Middle Eastern countries. The fewer the rights for women, the better. Just say it with your chest, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 04:40 PM
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College-educated women are the most likely to be married in the first place *and* to remain married long-term. The most educated women are the most likely to be married (brookings.edu) The link between a college education and a lasting marriage | Pew Research Center Divorce Rate by Education Level: Divorce Is Least Common Among People With Which Of The Following Levels Of Education? - The Center For Divorce Education (divorce-education.com)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 03:35 PM
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As someone who was a young adult during the time period you mentioned, I completely agree with your assessment.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 03:32 PM
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And 10% is still a relatively small percentage of overall relationships. Extreme age-gap relationships are simply not that common.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 03:25 PM
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I've dated several guys who were younger than me, but only by a few years. I've never found the notion of dating much older men appealing, even when I was a lot younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 03:23 PM
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I'm in my mid-forties and on the dating apps after recently divorcing. Most of the men on the apps who are around my age are also divorcees who already have children and don't want more. I think guys here greatly overestimate the number of older men who want to start families at their age.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 03:18 PM
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First off, many women choose to continue their careers, even if they could feasibly stay home. Having financial independence is extremely important, considering that anything could go wrong in a marriage. Plus, lots of women find joy and purpose in their careers. And secondly, a good chunk of stay-at-home moms are low-income. I’m in a number of mom groups on FB, and most of the stay-at-home moms discuss how they don’t work because they can’t afford childcare. They certainly are living in the lap…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 02:07 PM
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The stats are problematic to you because they don’t conform to your preconceived worldview. It’s just like how conspiracy theorists will cling to obviously false beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 02:03 PM
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You keep repeating this over and over again, and yet several people here have provided statistics to show that most women are both working and doing a significant share of the household cores and childcare. So your claim is just flat-out disproven by the data.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 12:39 AM
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How many stay-at-home moms do you personally know well enough to know what happens in their lives?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 12:33 AM
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What a convenient narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 12:29 AM
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Statistics show that you are wrong. Most women work. Even for women who are mothers, only 26% are stay-at-home moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 12:23 AM
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When I was assaulted while jogging on a bike path, I was wearing mid-thigh-length shorts and my boyfriend’s old baggy T-shirt. I was also sweating profusely from nearing the end of a 5-mile jog on a blazing hot July afternoon. Bad men don’t rape because of clothing. That myth needs to die out already. For further evidence of this, just look at the major rape epidemic in places like India and Egypt. Women there are usually covered head-to-toe, yet rape happens on a regular basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:45 PM
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I’m sorry, what? So, when I was attacked by a man who was a stranger to me while jogging on a bike path years ago, that was MY fault and not the guy’s fault for attacking, assaulting, and attempting to rape??? Men who harm and sexual assault women are always the one’s at fault. Period. I can’t believe this needs to be said.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:38 PM
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It’s about safety. Our male loved ones are worried about safety—it’s nothing more, nothing less.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:36 PM
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If you want people to take you seriously at all, you’ll need to not make up shit. I don’t know what else to tell you. 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 02:04 PM
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Yeah, the main complaint I see from women is that too many guys lie about wanting a serious relationship when they just want to get laid. But I don’t see women saying that all women are perfect angels and free of bad behaviors. We know that there are plenty of women who do shitty things.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 10:07 PM
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It’s not so simple as “bye…I’m out of this relationship” when you have children and your entire life is intertwined with your partner. Women often stay in less than ideal relationships/marriages because they desperately want to make it work. I’m sure some men do the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 06:22 PM
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I’m so grateful that when I was attacked while jogging on a bike path in 2006, a passerby stopped to pull by my attacker off of me and then lend me his phone afterward to call 911. If it hadn’t been for that man, I would have been raped and possibly killed. (My attacker was apprehended and later served 3.5 years in prison. With that said, I don’t believe that any man has an obligation to physically assist a woman who is being assaulted or raped. I do think it’s only common decency for any person…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 03:25 PM
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What’s selfish is cheating. And if he cheats and stays in the marriage, the kids grow up in a toxic environment where the parents don’t get along and the wife is resentful. It’s best to just exit the marriage if the man isn’t satisfied with his sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 03:01 PM
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I'm not really sure what learning game actually means, but if it's cheesy pickup lines or putting on a fake front, then that should be avoided. But many of the guys in this sub would have exponentially more chances of success if they didn't rely exclusively on the dating apps and spent much more time out socializing. A lot of the issues here come down to lack of socialization.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 01:13 AM
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Talk to the women you know in real life and see how many have been raped or sexually assaulted. I guarantee you that more of them than you realize have been, sadly. I have been the victim of sexual assault twice in my life. Most of my friends have experienced at least one incident of sexual assault during their lifetime. To deny our lived experiences is really fucking shitty.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 03:49 PM
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She specifically stated that she thinks only a small percentage of men behave that way. It’s just that the men who hold those views and attitudes tend to congregate in disproportionate numbers in forums like this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 02:00 PM
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The data shows that only a small percentage of women have a higher number of sex partners. There is no “hoe epidemic.” That is something the manosphere wants to believe, but it’s simply not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:36 PM
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Duty sex occurs in relationships that are transactional in nature. It has nothing to do with a woman's past partners (or lack thereof) and everything to do with her having sex not out of genuine desire but rather to keep her husband happy so that he continues to provide for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 10:31 PM
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You speaketh the truth!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 10:26 PM
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Source for your 80% claim? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 07:44 PM
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People aren’t telling you and guys who think like you that sex isn’t a fundamental aspect of romantic relationships. What they are trying to explain is that sex is only one aspect of a relationship. To make a long-term relationship, you have to actually get along with your partner and enjoy spending time with them. You have to have shared values and at least some shared interests. You have to be able to work together to build the kind of life you want. Sex only accounts for a small percentage of…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 07:42 PM
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More rectally-sourced red pill statistics 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:23 PM
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You described the concept of romantic chemistry perfectly!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:18 PM
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You are absolute a hypocrite and people see through the nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:48 PM
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No, I don’t think so. Because I don’t believe that men are naturally rapists. Some men will rape, but they don’t represent the majority of men. It’s also important to note that rape happens often in places like India and Egypt where women have far less rights than women in the West have. So, I think it comes down to both individual men’s inclination to rape and cultural attitudes toward women in any given society.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 02:37 PM
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Where are all of these women who are admitting that they want men with sociopathic traits? Receipts, please? I’m not seeing that with any sort of regular frequency.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 01:39 PM
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Cool, your wife of girlfriend can display that she is desirable by cheating on you. I’m sure that you’d be just as understanding as you’d expect to her be, amirite?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 01:34 PM
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He should leave the marriage and divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 01:30 PM
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I completely agree with your assessment of the motives behind rape much of the time, and the research indicates that it is indeed often about power and control. That doesn’t make rape any more excusable than if it was just about desire. There is literally no circumstance where rape is justifiable or acceptable. None.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 10:39 PM
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You greatly underestimate how difficult it is for a woman to reenter the job market after being out of work for many years. And they will also likely start out in an entry-level position that pays very little.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 10:35 PM
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Did you read the post? The whole premise of it is that it’s in men’s human nature to rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 10:28 PM
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Yeah, I don’t know why some of the guys here in this sub seem to think that all men want or endorse traditional relationship dynamics. My father also raised me to focus on my education and career and not become financially dependent on a man. And none of my long-term boyfriends, as well as my ex-husband, were interested in having a traditional relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 06:47 PM
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Here’s the thing: Most couples don’t have much in the way of assets, and this is particularly true of couples who divorce earlier in life. It just seems that every time a discussion on this topic occurs, the default assumption from red pillers is that the majority of people are swimming in money. But that’s just not true for average Americans. Most women aren’t going to walk away from a divorce financially set for years to come. I’m in a couple of divorce support groups for women, and most of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 06:27 PM
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Are you still in grade school, by any chance? You seem to be very young and a bit oblivious to things.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 06:19 PM
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No, using nature as an excuse to rape women is what’s depressing and horrifying. Men are not wild animals; they are human, and they are accountable for the choices they make.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 04:38 PM
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Oh, I didn’t realize that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 02:11 PM
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This comment thread is depressing and horrifying. What a horribly misandrist take. Dudes like you will say shit like this and then whine and complain about women choosing the bear over a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 01:46 PM
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I’m inclined to agree that the percentage of men who would rape is higher than what criminal statistics indicate, considering that rape is the most underreported crime (and even when reported, the conviction rate is low). I definitely don’t think it’s the majority of men, but it’s almost certainly higher than many would think.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 01:40 PM
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I read through posts and comment where I want to contribute to the discussion at hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 08:21 PM
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The tradwife movement doesn't reflect trends that are actually happening offline. The majority of women work, including married women, and the stats back this up. Only 26% of mothers are stay-at-home parents. Dads make up 18% of stay-at-home parents in the US | Pew Research Center And in nearly half of marriages (45%), the husband is not the breadwinner. In those marriages, either the husband and wife earn about the same income or the wife is the breadwinner. Husbands and Wives Earn Similar Wage…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 08:12 PM
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Elon Musk is asexual??!! Sure, that would totally explain why he has fathered a bunch of kids with different women. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 07:50 PM
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DINK couples make up a significant percentage of the population. '“This idea and household configuration of dual-income partners living alone without children is on the rise,” according to Misty L. Heggeness, an associate research scientist at the University of Kansas’ Institute for Policy and Social Research. “In 2022, it was around 43% of households, and that’s about a 7% increase from a decade previously.”' What DINK 'dual income, no kids' trend means for your money (cnbc.com)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 07:09 PM
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Why are you concerned with how random single women are conducting their lives?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 06:42 PM
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Username checks out
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 03:39 PM
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I agree. I’ve always made sure to maintain my appearance, even after being in a relationship for many years.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 03:39 PM
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It’s not that women are chasing after a small number of men. It’s that they prefer being single and don’t want to date at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:16 PM
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I just did some researching on homeless shelters in my area. For context, I live in a large Midwestern city. There are separate men's and women's shelters here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 12:20 PM
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I have always dated men who were strong and athletic. Lots of women are attracted to men who are athletic. I've also played coed sports, including volleyball and kickball, and I have definitely known couples who met through their sporting leagues. It's definitely a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 12:31 AM
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Women don't need a man to survive on their own. If they can't afford to live on their own, then can live with female roommates, which a lot of women do. Plenty of single women do just fine surviving on their own income alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 12:25 AM
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Because it doesn’t seem like you were socialized around girls when you were growing up. Pretty much everyone who attended school with girls knows that some of them can be awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 01:15 PM
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Were you homeschooled, by any chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:01 PM
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Yeah, this post reads as though OP had a very sheltered childhood with little to no interactions with girls and women. I wonder if he was homeschooled, because I seriously don't understand how someone makes it all the way through grade school and high school not observing girls in his classes behaving terribly. Or even just seeing women out in public spaces sometimes acting rude or aggressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:00 PM
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Yeah, this post reads as though OP had a very sheltered childhood with little to no interactions with girls and women. I wonder if he was homeschooled, because I seriously don't understand how someone makes it all the way through grade school and high school not observing girls in his classes behaving terribly. Or even just seeing women out in public spaces sometimes acting rude or aggressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:00 PM
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This is sold advice right here. That act some guys put on where they are trying way too hard to be cocky is very cringeworthy and annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 10:46 PM
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Guys with high body counts are typically party types who spend a lot of time hanging out in mixed-gender groups at parties and bars or other social events. Personality goes a long way in these situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 10:41 PM
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Wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:15 PM
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We exist. I don’t know why you haven’t encountered any of us yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:15 PM
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You are in desperate need of touching grass.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 03:39 PM
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I’ve always gone 50/50 while dating. Lots of women do. Sorry you haven’t met any yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 03:38 PM
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Newsflash: The majority of women are not sex workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 03:37 PM
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There are plenty of men who also have high body counts, baggage, and are single dads. Those guys date women who have led similar lives all the time. Touching grass every once in a while and having a social life will show you that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 05:13 PM
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As someone who has dated quite a bit, I never sorted guys into separate categories of “hookup/FWB only” and “long-term relationship potential.” All but one of my long-term serious relationships began as what I guess you could call FWB situationships. (The one exception was my first boyfriend who I dated in high school.) It’s probably worth noting that every guy I’ve dated started out as a friend of mine. Honestly, I don’t think I’m an outlier with my experiences. It’s fairly common for couples t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 03:35 PM
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Plenty of men actually prefer to date women around their own age. That's actually quite common, although I realize that dorky manosphere grifters have told you otherwise. A percentage of women will pursue much younger woman; but that is not the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 01:06 AM
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It's not about shrinking options, I promise you. What happens is that people mature as they progress through their twenties. Both men and women mature; this should obvious. Many young people (under 25 or so) approach dating with a more carefree goal of having fun and hanging out and just enjoying spending time together. I sure as hell know that marriage and children were not on my radar at that age. This is normal for many young people. Once men and women reach their mid-to-late twenties (maybe …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 12:24 AM
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Same. I've always dated guys who were friends first.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 12:12 AM
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No, it is 100% weird as shit to be obsessed with your daughter's sex life. I can assure you that outside of religious fundamentalist communities, that is not normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 11:55 PM
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Most fathers aren't obsessed with who their adult-aged daughters may or may not be sleeping with. That's just really fucking weird and honestly a bit concerning.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 11:53 PM
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Blue-pilled guys are basically just normies who are socially well-adjusted. Many of them are even outgoing guys who like to party or get out and socialize often, and most of them are certainly getting action in the bedroom. Unlike the majority of red/black-pilled guys who spend most of their free time talking to one another in echo chambers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 11:39 PM
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If he becomes the primary caretaker of the children after his wife leaves, then he would be eligible for govt benefits if his income falls below the poverty guidelines.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:41 PM
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It sure does seem like there's a lot of crossover.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 10:37 AM
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Just to chime in--I think it's mostly the guys who make going to the gym their whole personality (the gymbros, if you will) who are off-putting to some women. A guy who who works out and stays fit, but isn't roided up and taking endless selfies with his shirt off, is going to be desirable to lots of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 10:32 AM
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What exactly does "learn sex from guides" mean? Are you talking about like technical manuals with instructions on, what, how to attract women, or how to actually, physically have sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 07:50 AM
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I have never once seen a woman here say that all women are perfect or that everything bad that happens is due to men. Good you provide specific examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 07:39 AM
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The difference is this: If a guy attempts to develop a friendship with a woman from the very beginning solely because he thinks she's attractive and wants to date her, then yeah, that's not great. On the other hand, if he becomes her friend because he really enjoys spending time with her and values the friendship over everything else, then that's a different matter entirely. Mutual feelings can certainly develop after the fact, which is fine and completely normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 11:04 PM
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Probably a dumb question, but where can you get a DEXA scan done? I've always been curious about mine. I'm thin but currently not very toned, and I'd bet that my body fat percentage is higher than what I'd expect.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 11:00 PM
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The argument is that the majority of men end up in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:30 PM
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Again, most women don't work that way. I honestly don't see any men that I want to sleep with simply upon seeing them. It requires more for me, such as talking with a guy and seeing if it's fun to hang out with. Even on dating apps, I might see a guy who I think is attractive, but I don't instantly want to sleep with him. I'll chat with him first and see if I like his personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:23 PM
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Yeah, I got a good laugh at that part. I’m pretty sure if someone is taking it up the ass, they are no longer a virgin. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:52 PM
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Most women take showers and wash their asses. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:50 PM
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On your last point, studies have shown that men are the ones who tend to overestimate their level of attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:13 PM
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I’m not so sure about Tate, but everything I’ve read about F&F has them firmly aligned with the red pill. This highlights an issue, in general, where red pillers often disagree with other red pillers about what TRP really endorses and who the main/popular TRP figures are.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 10:06 PM
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Where are you getting the notion that most of those guys had sex only once? The category in question refers to having one partner. Most of those guys probably had sex a number of times, either with their long-term partner or FWB partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 02:56 PM
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I mean, I don’t disagree that issues are far more likely to arise in women who are in their late 30s and older and trying to get pregnant. I’m just arguing that women having children in their early-to-mid 30s are still at a very fertile and healthy stage in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 12:56 PM
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And not only premarital sex, but sex super early into dating. Just in this sub alone, I’ve seen so many men who seem to lean tradcon in their views say that they will give it 3 dates without sex until they call it quits. That’s like a couple weeks into dating, maybe. So they want the traditional virgin future housewife, but they want her to put out very quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 10:10 PM
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“Blame the hoes” Yeah, because so many men are willing to wait months or even years to have sex with a traditional woman. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 10:04 PM
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Umm, where are you getting the notion that the quality of children born to women in their 30s is lower? “Experts say the best time to get pregnant is between your late 20s and early 30s. This age range is associated with the best outcomes for both you and your baby. One study pinpointed the ideal age to give birth to a first child as 30.5.” https://www.healthline.com/health/womens-health/childbearing-age And here is the study from Oxford Academic that is cited about the ideal age being 30.5: htt…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 09:34 PM
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My only point is that it’s extremely common for women to have children in their 30s. And the vast majority of those children are born without birth defects, especially for those women who have children before their late 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 07:39 PM
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Oh, okay. You did not answer the question in your first comment. Thank you for the clarification.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 07:34 PM
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Great fucking comment here. I couldn’t agree more. I was raised in a loving, upper-middle-class two-parent home (my parents have been married almost 50 years), and although we were practicing Catholics, I wasn’t raised to think that my virginity was the end-all and be-all. My parents were kind of, I guess, quite progressive in terms of sex and whatnot. So I didn’t grow up in a toxic environment where purity culture BS was drilled into me. And I think that enabled me to not view sex as this major…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 05:13 PM
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How does this comment in any way relate to the post? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 05:03 PM
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The number of women having children in the 20-29 age cohort from 2020 to 2022 was almost identical to the number of women having children in the 30-39 age cohort. https://www.marchofdimes.org/peristats/data?reg=99&top=2&stop=2&lev=1&slev=1&obj=1#:~:text=older%20(13.1).-,Of%20all%20live%20births%20in%20the%20United%20States%20during%202020,women%20ages%2040%20and%20older
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 05:00 PM
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I'm genuinely sorry you're struggling so much. But to suggest that all boys/men shouldn't exist is an extremely misandrist take.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 01:58 PM
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Most young men are having sex, though. Only 14% of young men ages `18-35 didn't have sex in 2022 (the most recent year for which we have data). How Many Sexual Partners Did Men and Women Have in 2022 - Date Psychology
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 01:29 PM
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A significant percentage of people met their partners through their social circles. A recent survey found that 43% of young people ages 18-29 were in a relationship with someone who was first a friend, including 50% of women in that age cohort. Gen Z Dating Trends: Ditching Online Apps and Dating Friends - Business Insider Speaking of my own personal life, all of my long-term relationships were with guys who were friends first.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 12:35 PM
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I am a middle-aged woman who has had a decent amount of dating experience. As a result of my own life experiences, I probably wouldn't choose to date a similarly-aged man who hasn't been in a relationship. I just feel like we wouldn't have much in common. I would prefer to date a divorcee who has children because I am also divorced (or about to be) and have a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 06:31 PM
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I think the argument from manospherians (and particularly tradcon red-pillers) is that we, as a society, should return to the days when men were the sole providers and the women were homemakers. In a traditional dynamic like that, some would view women as gold diggers because they would be actively seeking out men who would make enough money to be good providers. In modern society, women don’t place as much emphasis on finding “provider men” because they earn their own money.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 03:42 PM
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It’s not so much about being all nicey-nice and kissing women’s asses. General kindness is important, yes, but what many women do want is a man who respects them and doesn’t hold regressive, conservative views.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 03:37 PM
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Yeah, I have never once pursued or dated a man because he had money. My ex-husband didn’t even have a job at all when we first started dating. Literally no job. Now at this stage of my life, I would want a guy to at least have a job, but I certainly wouldn’t demand he make six figures.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 03:32 PM
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That’s perfectly normal and acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 03:28 PM
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Sure, there are people who are polyamorous. But the number of individuals participating in that lifestyle is fairly low. There are also cheaters—both male and female (although, admittedly, there are more cheaters than people who are poly). Again, they do not represent the majority. What you’re describing isn’t something that normally happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 01:20 PM
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Interesting, yeah, that’s not been what I’ve observed. Hollywood isn’t really a good example to use because both famous men and women both go through partners as often as they change their underwear. Everything that happens in their world isn’t relatable to everyone else. But for ordinary people, most men over a certain age tire of casual sex and settle down. And there’s also the issue where society will judge older men and women who sleep around and refuse to settle down.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 05:28 PM
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You’re still not getting it. And at this point, if you don’t understand, I’m not sure that you ever will.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 05:23 PM
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I don’t know. Each of my long-term relationships began as a more casual dating arrangement (basically FWBs for a little while before transitioning to serious relationship). This was actually the norm for the majority of people I’ve known. However, I’m in my 40s and dated before the dating apps took off in popularity, so every guy that I’ve dated was a friend or friend of a friend. And my friends dated within their social circles as well. I suppose that dating through the apps is considerably dif…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 05:19 PM
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I should maybe bump the age up to 35–30 might be too young. I am actually on the dating apps now after going through a divorce, so I have recent personal experience with this. The majority of men over 35 I’ve come across or matched with are divorced and usually have children.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:28 PM
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I think we need to differentiate between male virgins (or generally unsuccessful men) and actual incels. Most women, myself included, have nothing against men who simply don’t do so well with dating. In fact, I wish only good things to happen for men who aren’t hateful and disrespectful toward women. Incels, however, are men who subscribe to a specific hateful ideology. Those are the guys that people have a problem with.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:25 PM
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A small percentage of mentally unstable men and women lust over famous murderers. The majority of people do not. Also, the majority of people do not hate “low-status” men. Obviously, incels, specifically, are criticized for their absolutely deplorable views on women, which should not come as a shock to anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 02:34 PM
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Again, reality indicates otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 02:30 PM
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There were plenty of lunatic men who were fanboying over Casey Anthony. Crazy people of both genders exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 11:27 PM
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I'll answer. The race of a man doesn't matter one bit. Men are bigger and stronger than the vast, vast majority of women. That's the concern, not the race of any particular guy. If I am walking down the street at night alone, I am going to be wary of both a short white guy and a tall black guy. That does not mean that we think all men are dangerous predators. (This needs to be repeated so very often, and hopefully you guys in this sub will understand one day.) It's simply a reality for women eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 11:26 PM
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Even though most incels don't actually kill women, they do absolutely hate us. They have zero respect for us and see us as nothing more than a set of holes. Some incels take it a step further and endorse the belief that we should have our rights removed. Why on Earth would any sane woman sign up to date a guy who thinks like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 10:32 PM
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I think there are very few men who literally can't find anyone to date them. Do men like that exist? Sure, but not on a mass scale. After listening to some guys here and in other forums, it seems that many of them do have standards or requirements, contrary to what they claim. If a guy refuses to date fat women, single moms, women over 30, or promiscuous women, then he's obviously going to be competing with millions of other guys for a very small percentage of thin, young women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 10:27 PM
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Of course you don’t believe the available data because it doesn’t conform to your preconceived manosphere worldview. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 07:13 PM
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Most Chads I’ve known have their fun in their twenties and then settle down to marry around 30. Contrary to what some say here, the majority of men get bored with casual sex after a while and also mature and desire marriage and raising children. They aren’t fuckboys forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 07:10 PM
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I live in a very large city. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 07:07 PM
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Most women end up dating and marrying men who have had similar life experiences as themselves. This AF/BB notion that tons of experienced women are settling down with male virgins or very inexperienced men in their thirties just doesn’t play out in reality. The majority of women who had a number of partners in their twenties will end up marrying men who also had multiple partners in they’re twenties. It was like that for me and pretty much everyone I know. And the available research shows that t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 07:01 PM
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Most of the people ages 30 and up in the dating pool—including men and women both—are divorced. And they often end up dating one another. Perpetually single people who are 30+ are a rarity.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 04:46 PM
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There’s nothing wrong with what you’re describing. However, guys who have a glow-up a bit later in life and want to experience hookups (which they feel they missed out on in their youth) shouldn’t get into serious relationships if they just want to have lots of casual sex. It’s not fair to any potential girlfriends who likely didn’t even know those guys when they were younger. Those guys should just be single and sow their wild oats, so to speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 03:59 PM
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I’m not sure what specifically OP is referring to, but I have read that some guys who lacked experience throughout their twenties and finally get a girlfriend in their thirties or forties feel very strong resentment about missing out on casual sex and relationships. As such, they may be more likely to cheat or treat their girlfriends poorly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 03:56 PM
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That’s rapidly changing. In almost half of American marriages, the husband is not the sole or primary breadwinner. And with each passing year, the percentage of marriages with either an egalitarian dynamic or female breadwinner increases.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 03:05 PM
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I agree that a lot of these acts would strike a lot of women as very strange, myself included. We aren’t living in the year 1824 after all. Most of these over-the-top acts of chivalry would seem out of place in modern times. I basically just want to be treated with basic respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 03:44 PM
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Nah, I mostly agree with him. I don’t want to go on a date that feels like some staged courtship drama from two centuries ago. I’d much prefer to have a guy making raunchy jokes and having a good time than doing all of these cringey performative acts.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 03:40 PM
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Honestly, despite the narrative suggested here and in other pilled spaces, most men who have their act together would expect their female partner to have hers together.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 12:25 PM
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If I was in my twenties and stilling living with my parents, I certainly wouldn't judge a guy with similar circumstances. But if I was financially set enough to be living with roommates or by myself, I would expect a potential partner to have similar living arrangements. That's not unreasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 11:59 PM
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And for "practical purpose," prostitution exists for guys like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 11:31 PM
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I doubt many surgeons are going to settle down with a cashier. I hear this all the time in the pilled spaces but never see it happen in real life. Well-educated men with great careers will absolutely look for women who are also well-educated and successful. It’s not that they are sexually attracted to those things; it’s about having values and experiences in common.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 09:29 PM
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Oh absolutely—agreed on all accounts.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 09:26 PM
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It seems that a lot of men here are very inexperienced and, as such, hyper-fixate on sex. People who have experience with long-term relationships realize that there is much more to a relationship than just sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 08:05 PM
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This isn't about men caring about the lives of random women who are strangers. (Or, conversely, women caring about random men.) It's about certain men in this sub and within the larger manosphere seeming to only be interested in sex when it comes to a potential romantic partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 08:02 PM
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You have to realize that the kind of men who "swallow the red pill" aren't representative of most ordinary men who don't buy into manosphere narratives. In a space like this one, you'll find a lot of guys suggesting that women's goals, interests, and accomplishments don't matter. Out in the real world, however, most guys absolutely do care a great deal about those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 07:57 PM
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I disagree. I don’t know any men who I think would choose a virgin over a non-virgin. But then again, the men I know are all experienced themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 09:50 PM
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The majority of men don’t want to date virgins. The minority of men who do tend to be young or very inexperienced themselves. https://datepsychology.com/who-are-the-men-that-demand-virgins/
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 03:27 PM
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You do realize that there is a middle ground between virgin and “town bicycle,” right? 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 03:25 PM
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As a conventionally attractive woman, I don't give a shit about a dude's watch, or any other flashy displays of wealth. Now, it's not necessarily a red flag for me, but I just don't care at all. It certainly wouldn't add to a guy's attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 11:17 PM
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Right? OP would recoil in horror and disgust if ever reads about the groupies of classic rock bands from the 70s.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 12:36 AM
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Guys who make posts like this one analyzing and critiquing people who party and attend concerts probably isn't charismatic or social skilled enough to transform themselves into bad boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 12:33 AM
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Absolutely not. Many of us don’t even like that genre of music at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 07:49 PM
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Not casual sex in the sense of one-night stands, but FWB situationships for sure. They are super common.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 10:40 PM
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Sure, buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 09:08 PM
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“If he does that, great the trash took itself out.” Yes, people do end relationships for all sorts of reasons, including all forms of abuse, infidelity, one partner not helping with chores/childcare, and more. Shit happens, and sometimes relationships and marriages come to an end. If you spend all of your time worrying about and obsessing over your relationship ending (due to cheating or whatever other reason), you will never, ever be happy. You will constantly live in fear, and you will also li…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 07:55 PM
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Some women want lots of casual sex, most do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 07:44 PM
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Yeah, OP is literally stating in the comments that he thinks women should no longer be able to vote. Dudes like that just want complete and total control over women—much like Muslim women are entirely under the control of their men in places like Afghanistan. It’s unsurprising that no woman wants to deal with a guy who has views like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 07:39 PM
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There are more than the two ways to date that guys always talk about here (dating apps and cold-approaching complete strangers). The third way of dating, which is still very common, is through one’s social circles. In fact, this way of dating is increasing in popularity amongst Gen Z. A recent survey found that 43% of people ages 18-29 were in a relationship with someone who was first a friend, including 50% of women in that age cohort. https://www.businessinsider.com/gen-z-dating-trend-online-a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 07:29 PM
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This is embarrassing on your end. You are so bitter about not being able to get dates that you want to remove women's rights. With such stellar views on women, I can't imagine why you might struggle. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 07:14 PM
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There it is. What a pathetic stance.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 06:25 PM
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"while women have the right to decide how a government is run" Wtf does this mean? Are you seriously complaining about women having the right to vote and become government officials because you're mad that they get too much attention *from men* on dating apps and social media?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 06:11 PM
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Well, you’re free to label things however you want, but the vast majority of people would consider parents raising their children alone without a partner in the home as “single parents.”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 05:25 PM
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Yes he is. It’s absurd to suggest otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 03:34 PM
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I do think that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 02:23 PM
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Well, you can either believe the available data or manosohere conspiracy theories. I know which one is more plausible, but you are of course free to believe whatever you’d like.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 02:22 PM
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Bingo! I’ve long suspected that as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 12:38 PM
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Men can be technically single—meaning not in a long-term relationship—and still be sexually active. For younger guys, especially, FWB situationships are probably very common.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 12:33 PM
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I agree so much with u/Sharp_Engineering379!! I really hope good fortune comes your way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 12:30 PM
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No, it’s not. https://datepsychology.com/how-many-sexual-partners-did-men-and-women-have-in-2022/#:~:text=Number%20of%20sexual%20partners%20in,an%20excess%20of%20sexual%20partners
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 12:25 PM
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Most young men are having sex. In 2022, the GSS reports that only 14% of men ages 18-35 didn’t have sex. https://datepsychology.com/how-many-sexual-partners-did-men-and-women-have-in-2022/#:~:text=Number%20of%20sexual%20partners%20in,an%20excess%20of%20sexual%20partners Now, I would imagine that some young men aren’t having as much sex as they’d like (or with as many partners as they’d like), but that’s a bit of a different matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 12:23 PM
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Right, they are always cast as the villain in manosphere lore. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 08:22 AM
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I never did threesomes and I don’t know what “DP” means.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 08:14 AM
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This is my experience as well. Guys who got laid and partied and whatnot weren’t freaking out over body count. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 04:09 AM
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The guys I’ve dated have led similar lifestyles as myself, and so it was never an issue. Guys who party and have had a decent number of past partners typically aren’t concerned with body counts. I mean, sure, many aren’t going to want to date sex workers or women with super promiscuous backgrounds, but if you’re just talking about an average woman who’s had a bit of experience, those guys don’t care. That’s been my experience at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 04:08 AM
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Yeah, that’s, umm, interesting. Very bizarre. I don’t even recognize that person’s username.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 02:32 AM
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This entire post is ridiculous because men aren’t the only ones who are called “weird.” If someone behaves in an odd manner, he or she may be labeled as weird. That’s just how language works. To reiterate, there are women who act weird, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 02:26 AM
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Him disagreeing with ridiculous manosphere beliefs and theories doesn't mean he's white-knighting. Most normal men would look at red-pilled and black-pilled content and think it was absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 11:18 PM
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Yeah, my ex-husband was great about splitting chores and childcare, but I know that’s not the norm in the US. Europeans seem far more progressive and egalitarian in that area.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 03:50 PM
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You can choose not to believe me or the other women here. It makes no difference to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:13 PM
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I'm Gen X as well (right on the cusp of X and Millenial), and I still get hit on, too. It's hilarious that some of these guys think we instantly become invisible at age 30 or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:21 AM
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Just like they do about the women they date. Usually, those guys ended up dating their FWBs on a long-term basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 09:39 PM
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Do you think you might be asexual? Because most women do enjoy sex and don’t view having sex with their partners as a chore or some sort of gift that they give away to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 07:53 PM
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Are you a whore? Just wondering, because you seem cool with casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 07:45 PM
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Let’s be real: The majority of men are not going to wait around for months to have sex with a woman, regardless of her past. Even if she has a very low body count, most guys in reality are not interested in this old-fashioned concept of waiting so long to get intimate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 07:43 PM
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Exactly. I do see some men online make the claim that guys will fuck just about any woman, but the guys I know in real life have standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 05:13 PM
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Most men don't want to date virgins. Those men who do want virgins tend to be young and/or very sexually inexperienced themselves. Experienced men want to date women with a bit more experience. Who are the men that demand virgins? - Date Psychology
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 11:02 PM
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But you are talking about having casual sex with women in this thread. Your previous comment from this very thread: "If she lies about her body count I’m tapping that and ghosting her." Do you think you are immune to contracting and spreading STDs just because you are a guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:53 PM
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Ahh, so this whole post stems from a traumatic experience with an ex. This all makes sense now.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:48 PM
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And plenty of men screw over women, so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here. That shitty people exist? Of course they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:46 PM
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I don't think the majority of men who can't get dates struggle solely because of their looks. More often than not, it seems that a lot of these guys are either isolated loners or are lacking in social skills (or a combination of both). Some of these guys will also admit that there are women who show interest but that they are too fat, too ugly, single moms, or have some other quality that they find unappealing. It's evident when seeing couples out in public that plenty of unattractive men are in…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:24 PM
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I have a teenaged son, and I’ve observed the same sort of trends. Helicopter parents are failing at giving their kids opportunities to grow and become increasingly independent as they grow older. I can only imagine that this often backfires when the kids reach adulthood.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 01:48 PM
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Just wanted to say that I agree with both of them! Honestly, the only times I’ve really felt uneasy was when I was alone in a secluded area or at night and I come across a man who is a stranger. So, for example, if Im walking to my car at night, I’m going to be extra vigilant about my surroundings.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 01:40 PM
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He’s awaiting trial. And even if not convicted, he has publicly made claims in his own videos that are seriously misogynistic and repulsive to anyone with a shred of decency. So, no, he’s not ab alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 11:38 PM
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Of course! Most couples are of a similar level of attractiveness. Why would you expect to see a bunch of unattractive men with beautiful women?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 11:35 PM
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Are you implying that you don't see ugly men out and about in relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 10:48 PM
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And which men are the alphas? Andrew Tate thinks he's the king of the alphas when he's just a douchebag rapist, so obviously there are men who think they are alphas when they clearly are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 09:26 PM
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I have actually heard that before. Makes zero sense whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:51 PM
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Same here.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 06:56 PM
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Yeah, this reads like a revenge fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 11:49 PM
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When guys like you rant on about single moms, why is it that you seem to forget that single dads exist? Most of the single moms I have known were divorcees who went on to date and marry divorced single dads. In fact, after a certain age (35 or so), most of the people--men and women both--in the dating pool are those who have divorced and already have children. Single dads are often perfectly happy with dating and even marrying single moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 11:43 PM
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Agreed. I just want to point out that in terms of custody issues, many US states have already made huge improvements in this area. My understanding is that the default in many states now is 50/50 custody, barring any documented history of abuse/domestic violence or recent active addiction/substance abuse problems. I'm actually going through a divorce now, and my state is default 50/50 custody.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 01:47 PM
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Why not? Is there some rule that states that blue-pilled women don’t date athletes? I’ve never heard of such a thing. I’m not even really pilled at all. I’m just a normie who thinks that most of what the red pill preaches is either absurd or straight garbage. I’ll elaborate on the guys I’ve dated. Those athletes all had liberal-leaning political beliefs. And each of those relationships were egalitarian.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:31 PM
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I think your second point illustrates what's happening a lot with younger men and women. With FWBs/situationships becoming more common, it's likely that for some of those couples, the woman assumes that her and the guy are in a serious relationship while the guy doesn't label their relationship in the same way. In those cases, the guys would claim to be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 06:39 PM
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Most of the guys I've dated have been former athletes (high school and collegiate-level). I've dated football players, soccer players, and wrestlers. Despite their dominant physical appearance and capabilities, they were some of the kindest and most interesting men I've known. A couple were quite intelligent as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 06:30 PM
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You could make the same argument about the men who married those women, but you won't because it doesn't conform to your preconceived narrative. Many men--especially college-educated, successful ones--actively pursue women on their same education, income, and general socioeconomic level.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 02:03 PM
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This isn’t really true all the time. I’m an addict and alcoholic in recovery and have shared my story on social media. The vast majority of comments Ive received from both men and women have been supportive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:29 PM
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Many women who resort to IVF treatments to attempt to get pregnant have medical issues unrelated to their age. For example, it’s estimated that 10% of women worldwide have endometriosis, a condition which often causes issues with infertility. I am one of those of women. By some sheer good fortune, I did pregnant and give birth to my son in 2010, but that was the one and only time I was able to conceive. I was only 30 years old when i had him, and I had been having lots of unprotected sex with my…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 04:00 PM
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This is it. It’s all about controlling women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:33 PM
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Yeah, I doubt that the scenario OP describes is something that commonly happens. He’s talking about something like 1-2% of men at the very most. The vast majority of men who were sexually unsuccessful in their 20s and 30s are not going to magically have a glow-up (looks-wise and money-wise) so significant that they can begin casually dating and fucking 20-something year-old Instagram models.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 02:31 PM
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And to add, there are many older men who don’t want to date younger women. Lots of older men would prefer dating an attractive older woman because they likely have more things in common and may share similar life experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 06:00 PM
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There are male therapists. Perhaps work with one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:57 PM
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Can you provide data to back up this claim? Because the GSS suggests otherwise. https://datepsychology.com/how-many-sexual-partners-did-men-and-women-have-in-2022/#:~:text=Number%20of%20sexual%20partners%20in,an%20excess%20of%20sexual%20partners Most young men are having sex with at least one partner. Only a very small percentage of both men and women have more than a couple sex partners throughout the year. This suggests that the most promiscuous men and women are mostly having sex with one ano…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:38 PM
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Where are you getting this notion that only a “small and tiny percentage” of men are having sex? Because the data shows the opposite—that the majority of men are having sex. In 2022, only 14% of young men ages 18-29 didn’t have sex. And that was just for 2022 alone. https://datepsychology.com/how-many-sexual-partners-did-men-and-women-have-in-2022/#:~:text=Number%20of%20sexual%20partners%20in,an%20excess%20of%20sexual%20partners
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:35 PM
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Don’t be coming through with data and statistics! We prefer to stick with unfounded conspiracy theories and revenge fantasies around these parts. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:32 PM
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I am so very sorry you experienced that. That sounds absolutely terrifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 01:17 PM
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Sometimes that’s not even enough. Let me give you an example of someone I know in real life: My ex-husband’s friend (we’ll call him Tom) was very abusive and controlling to his wife. She finally had enough of living in fear and misery and left him and filed for divorce. Tom was irate about her leaving and would not accept that the marriage was over. He started stalling and harassing his ex-wife for months, and eventually began making death threats. She got a protection order and he proceeded to …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 07:08 PM
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I don’t think you’re understanding. Violent, abusive men often won’t let things go just because their wife divorced them. That period of time shortly after she leaves is so dangerous precisely because he’s furious about her leaving. An angry, violent man who’s been left will sometimes threaten, stalk, or even harm or kill their ex-wives. In situations like that, even if the woman gets a protection order it’s sometimes not enough to stop the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 06:57 PM
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The most dangerous time for an abused woman in a violent relationship is right after she leaves. https://jbws.org/news/the-first-18-months-after-leaving-an-abusive-partner-are-the-most-dangerous/ https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.3885381
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 06:19 PM
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Notice I said “one of the major reasons.” I agree that it’s not the sole reason, but it’s certainly a very significant one.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 04:41 PM
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I agree with both of you!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 02:58 PM
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Many of the self-identified purple men here seem to be red-pilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 02:40 PM
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I just looked him up. He’s probably good-looking without all the idiotic face tatts, but as a normal, sane woman, he loses all appeal due to his terrible character and actions. You have to remember that there is a small percentage of people—both men and women—who are likely mentally unwell themselves who lust after the absolute worst people. Some men went crazy over Casey Anthony and Jodi Arias.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 01:03 PM
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I don't have issues with my partner watching softcore porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 11:12 PM
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Exactly, especially when you have children. OP is wildly--and I do mean wildly--out of touch with reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 09:51 PM
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More men would likely go into caretaking into if it actually paid well. But it definitely doesn't
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 08:41 PM
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Why are you focusing only on mothers?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 08:33 PM
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One of the major reasons that girls and young women choose not to go into STEM fields is that misogyny continues to be a major problem. This is well-document by researchers. https://www.hepi.ac.uk/2024/01/16/women-stem-students-up-to-twice-as-likely-as-non-stem-students-to-have-experienced-sexism/#:~:text=We%20know%20from%20existing%20research,those%20studying%20non%2DSTEM%20fields https://stemeducationjournal.springeropen.com/articles/10.1186/s40594-021-00313-z#ref-CR21 https://hbr.org/2015/03/…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 08:23 PM
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Yeah, I agree that there are probably a lot of people here with childhood trauma. I think the other issue is that many of the guys in this sub seem to be very isolated and have minimal interactions with women offline. So, they read or watch all of this rage-bait content that’s fed to them through the algorithm and then make wild generalizations about women that sound ridiculous to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:52 PM
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Yes, most women don’t want to “submit” to a man, myself included. I’m not a child and I don’t want my romantic relationship to mirror that of a parent-child relationship. I’m really not sure why that’s shocking to guys like you. Most of us women want an egalitarian relationship where both partners treat each other equally with respect. It’s actually just common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 06:06 PM
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I’m not a fan of cold approaches, especially if they happen in places that aren’t specifically intended for socializing. So I’m going to go with a 2. I will never accept a date that way, regardless of how attractive the guy is. With that said, as long as the guy isn’t pushy and aggressive, I will politely decline and it’s no big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 05:41 PM
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I have no idea who that is. 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 05:39 PM
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I agree that the man who helped me had no obligation to intervene. I want to make it very clear that I am ever-so-grateful for his assistance. This incident happened before smartphones were a thing (2006), and I didn’t have my flip phone with me. The guy who helped me did have a phone and contacted the police, and my attacker was apprehend shortly after. He was charged and convicted of kidnapping (for forcibly moving my body against my will) and attempted rape and went on to serve 3.5 years out …
/r/MensRights22/07/24 04:33 PM
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I have one child, a teenaged son, and none of what you’ve mentioned in this post applies to me or resonates with me whatsoever. I also consider myself to be a feminist. That does not at all mean that I harbor any sort of animosity toward my son. I love my son dearly, and I am raising him with as much love and support as is humanly possible. As often needs to be repeated in this sub, you are always going to find extremist views on literally any topic or issue conceivable on social media. People w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 04:03 PM
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Women are most likely to experience a stranger attack when they are alone, though. I was attacked while jogging on a bike path years ago. I guess I could have brought my boyfriend along on my jog, but I shouldn’t have to have a man with me at all times to ensure my safety. I will add that another male jogger came along shortly after my attacker threw me to the ground and was attempting to rape me. He thankfully pulled my attacker off of me. If it wasn’t for him, I might not even be alive today. …
/r/MensRights21/07/24 11:29 PM
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Just so you know, many women don't share the previous commenter's belief. I want an egalitarian 50/50 (or as close to it is as possible) relationship, and I know many women who prefer that dynamic as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 11:07 PM
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I don't know what kind of family you grew up in, but I was not raised that way and that was 30 years ago. My mom and dad both encouraged me to go to college, begin my career, and set myself up to be independent. Of course, they never told me not to marry, but the guidance given was to be self-sufficient. That was the common advice given to most of the girls I knew, with the exception of girls from extremely religious backgrounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 11:01 PM
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Huh? I didn't depend on my husband after having our son. Like most other women, I went on maternity leave for a short while (2 months...I was paid 100% of my salary) and then returned to work. Many women are paid during maternity leave or take short-term disability and receive payments that way. Even if those women aren't paid, it's only a couple months at most that they are off work.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 10:58 PM
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According to data on US marriages, husbands are not the breadwinners in 45% of marriages. In those marriages, either the husband and wife earn about the same (29%) or the wife is the breadwinner (16%). Husbands and Wives Earn Similar Wages in a Growing Share of Marriages | Pew Research Center Clearly, millions of women are marrying men who don't significantly out-earn them, much less out-earn them at all. Maybe someone else can pull data from those other Western nations, but I suspect the number…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 10:55 PM
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This is simply false. I have dated several genuinely kind guys who also partied, played in bands, and were funny as hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 09:44 PM
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I've noticed numerous times in this sub that there is this misconception that "nice" equates to boring and unadventurous. But that isn't necessarily always the case. I have dated several genuinely kind guys who also partied, played in bands, and were funny as hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 09:43 PM
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