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Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
9	[QFW] How do you feel about the character Waymond from EEAAO? Would you be attracted to someone with a similar personality?	Question For Women	TangerineX	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/23 09:56 PM

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1	Q4W: What's your take on hypergamy? I hope you understand that ditching your partner for a "better one" is often extremely hard for people. You already have this emotional commitment, that often it requires some pretty extreme level of being wronged to consider leaving. This is why a lot of women end up staying in toxic relationships because they've developed some level of dependency or don't feel safe to leave. But we also know that men are way more likely to commit infidelity than women are. If you leave someone because they che…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/03/23 09:19 PM
1	The Manosphere (Red Pill whatever you want to call it) is a movement that is more about woman slander than helping men and boys. Well, to be fair, they are doing that no? overwhelmingly, no. Feminists are generally not "putting their money where their mouth is" when it comes to supporting men's issues caused by the patriarchy. Do they raise money for male domestic violence victims? Do they push for policies to make it such that men aren't the only ones beholden to the draft? Do they have any measures to address the broadening education attainment gap between men and women? Do they contribute to help bringing the adoption …	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/02/23 08:31 PM
3	The Manosphere (Red Pill whatever you want to call it) is a movement that is more about woman slander than helping men and boys. Hey i'm not the person who responded to you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/02/23 08:24 PM
2	The Manosphere (Red Pill whatever you want to call it) is a movement that is more about woman slander than helping men and boys. Food for thought, but if feminism wanted to be more productive in eliminating patriarchy, then wouldn't helping men adopt a non-toxic masculinity and become positive forces in society be a worthwhile goal? I mean, it's men who are the ones upholding the patriarchy, so de-escalating that early would be helpful. Yet even male oriented feminist spaces are often hesitant about actually going through with helping other men. The reality is that even if the mannosphere doesn't end up helping men, they …	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/02/23 05:14 AM
3	The Manosphere (Red Pill whatever you want to call it) is a movement that is more about woman slander than helping men and boys. it was never an eager attempt to help men, just prey on their insecurities. I think you need to look at two things. If he truly wanted to help men, he would be mentoring them for free. Because there is a transactional cost to his service, its a business, not a charity. Secondly, look at results. Are the people who took Andrew Tate's classes more or less successful now? My money is on either no change or worse off, if you look at it from an aggregate perspective.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/02/23 05:08 AM
1	CMV: In today's age, men are expected to take on both the feminine AND the masculine roles in a relationship, while women are only expected to take on the feminine roles. I feel like the better way to put this is that men are expected to be more well rounded individual's instead of just a source of family income. Because men in the past did absolutely jack shit in the house outside of work outside of the house, anything else within a house will be seen as "women's work". Women are definitely expected to contribute to a household in terms of income. in fact, more and more women are becoming the primary wage earner in a household. This will especially be true in th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/23 09:32 AM
7	CMV: In today's age, men are expected to take on both the feminine AND the masculine roles in a relationship, while women are only expected to take on the feminine roles. I feel like the people who post CMVs here are a selection of men who come from a patriarchal place (hence why this is explicitly a pill subreddit). So you're going to see the worst of the worst takes. Don't let this subreddit define who men are generally	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/23 09:22 AM
1	Displaying stereotypical gendered behavior is crucial to get laid as a man There is a bit of a fallacy here to dive into. It's true that many stereotypical masculine behaviors are attractive to women. Gender, and being attracted to a gender, implies that you are attracted to behaviors, mannerisms, and other expressions of that gender. One could say that in terms of attracting straight women (who are interested in men), you have to exhibit some amount of masculine behavior, or else you wouldn't even signal as a man. It's not true that all masculine behaviors are attract…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/02/23 10:49 PM
2	Do male and female PPD users use the word "women" differently? I feel like there's also this subset of men who refer to "nubile" women as girls, and do use "women" to refer to all women, but never say that word, because the rest of the pie is irrelevant to their internal monologue.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/02/23 07:54 PM
7	Displaying stereotypical gendered behavior is crucial to get laid as a man I think we need to differentiate the feelings of being "protected" and the feeling of "powerlessness". Outside of maybe some kinks, I really don't think any woman wants to feel "powerless". But most women enjoy feeling safe.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/02/23 07:51 PM
0	q4men: what contradictions do you see in women? A couple of different possible scenarios here You are a misogynist, and they can tell. No surprises here. Fix your misogyny first. You're not a misogynist, but your dating profile/pictures make you look like one. Ok, so maybe ask about the features that show this. Figure out what makes you give off those signals. I mean one of the biggest turnoffs for woman is someone who looks "dangerous" even if the perceptions of who is dangerous are often not in accordance to reality (e.g. serial killers oft…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/02/23 11:50 PM
3	q4men: what contradictions do you see in women? I don't know if this counts exactly as a contradiction because it has to do with Type I errors vs Type II errors. A type I error is if a person who isn't a misogynist is identified as a misogynist. A type II error is when a person who is a misogynist is thought to be ok, but turns out to be a misogynist. So the real contradiction would be if women label a huge swath of men as misogynists when they aren't. So what I think women really mean by that is that they're good at not identifying someone a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/02/23 10:07 PM
3	i truly believe most women are oblivious to how attractive thier partners are, and women value being competent or the illusion of being competent Well here's the thing, if you don't reach the bar, your chances are 0. You can go on an infinite number of dates, and you will not find success. If you meet the bar, the chances are not 0. The results are not the same with or without the suggestion.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/02/23 01:31 AM
3	i truly believe most women are oblivious to how attractive thier partners are, and women value being competent or the illusion of being competent The bar isn't a magical level in which every woman will want you. There is no magical level where every woman will want you. The bar is a level where if you are below, realistically no woman will want you. People say the bar is low, but in reality, there are a LOT of men who are below that bar. And the reason for this is that a lot of men focus on the wrong parts, and never work on the parts they're lacking in. For example, why would any woman want to date a man who doesn't believe what she says…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/23 11:13 PM
6	i truly believe most women are oblivious to how attractive thier partners are, and women value being competent or the illusion of being competent What's the basis for which you say it's untrue?	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/23 09:53 PM
1	What happened to the Tinder algorithm? A few years ago I used to get tons of matches, but now I hardly get any. The percentage of women on Tinder vs men has gotten significantly worse. In 2016 it was closer to 1/3, and now it's 1/4. More men, fewer women = less impressions for men in general (your profile isn't being shown as much as before).	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/23 08:45 PM
13	i truly believe most women are oblivious to how attractive thier partners are, and women value being competent or the illusion of being competent Here's the thing: reaching the bar doesn't mean you automatically get a girlfriend. It's not a video game where after you slay 15 goblins you complete the quest. You still need to make a genuine connection, which is by no means easy. Here's another way to explain it. Reaching the bar means you're allowed to play. It doesn't mean you'll win.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/23 08:40 PM
8	i truly believe most women are oblivious to how attractive thier partners are, and women value being competent or the illusion of being competent By this logic, why are some women with good jobs, physically attractive, mentally well, also single? Have you considered that if a man is doing really well, he might be single because he hasn't found women good enough for him? Like right before I met my girlfriend, I was rejecting more women after dates than being rejected. They were interested in a 2nd date, but I let them know I wasn't interested. Or maybe he's not focused on dating at the moment. Of my male friends in stable situations, major…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/23 07:49 PM
11	i truly believe most women are oblivious to how attractive thier partners are, and women value being competent or the illusion of being competent I don't get it. You ask a question, people give you an answer, and your response is effectively "well I don't believe it!" What about this is silly?	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/23 07:34 PM
1	[QFW] How do you feel about the character Waymond from EEAAO? Would you be attracted to someone with a similar personality? To be honest, a lot of this is from reflecting on times when I visited relatives in China as a young boy, and the Asian Aunties and Uncles leaving comments about things I did. Sometimes I would have been asked to do things because I was "a big boy", or told to think about things in certain ways because that's what "real men" think. I still remember instances where my dad would yell at me to be more manly because of how I curled my fingers (my mom of course was like "wtf whats wrong with that?").…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/23 03:04 AM
1	[QFW] How do you feel about the character Waymond from EEAAO? Would you be attracted to someone with a similar personality? To reiterate, I'm only nitpicking your statement that "Waymond is not a weird take on masculinity in the Asian world". I totally agree with you that Asian women may be more accepting of diverse depictions of men, especially compared to in the more monolithic Western hegemonic masculinity. However, what I'm saying is that in Asia, the public, and the overall population would find Waymond's character a departure from the standard models of masculinity that they're used to. And there's definitely a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/23 09:53 PM
1	[QFW] How do you feel about the character Waymond from EEAAO? Would you be attracted to someone with a similar personality? I really don't think you should be taking shoujo manga and dating Sims to be indicative of Asian norms of masculinity, but rather as writing that is made purely for the female gaze. While these tropes exist in media that is mostly made for young women, that trope of masculinity is very rarely found to be present in people, nor the culture in most Asian countries. These depictions are relatively recent. Anyways, I'm not trying to argue here that this type of masculinity isn't something that women…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/23 07:21 PM
1	[QFW] How do you feel about the character Waymond from EEAAO? Would you be attracted to someone with a similar personality? On Waymond being a more common character archetype in Asian masculinities, I would have to disagree (being an ethnically Chinese man myself). Although I can only speak to Chinese masculinity, the primary models of masculinity, historically and now, have been built primarily on concepts of wen/wu (scholarly vs martial). Waymond in the normal universe is neither a fighter (in the traditional sense) or a scholar. In addition, the several noted "archetypes" of accepted masculinity throughout Chinese…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/23 05:18 PM
1	Average vs. high-value women? The study you listed actually proves my point about how big variance is. Look at table 2 as an example. For a scale from 0-3, the standard deviations all hover around a .9, which is a whole 3rd of the range. This is consistent in many of the other factors rated from 0-3. This indicates a high variance within each sampled population. Variance between cultures seems to be relevant too, where many cultures deviate significantly in their preferences. Note that your study does not actually look into …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/23 06:54 PM
2	Mathematically speaking, if there aren’t enough high value men to date what will the “average woman” do? I do agree with you that some features, such as height, wealth, charisma, and intelligence are associated with higher value. But it's the variance in priorites within these factors that make things more about stable matching than it is about pure value. A smart person will always be more attractive than a dumb person, all else held equal. But how do you compare a smart ugly person and a dumb handsome person? Some men like dumb blondes. Some men go after rich sugar mommas who are much older. The …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/23 10:59 AM
3	Average vs. high-value women? I don't disagree with you that the basis for female beauty are rooted in cues towards good genes, health, fertility. The same goes for men's too. But here's the thing, humans have not always been "right" in regards of what physical features correspond to fertility, health, and good genes. Beauty standards have changed drastically over the last few millennia, especially around body shape. This suggests that cultural factors have a very significant portion of effect on what features we believe to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/23 08:27 AM
1	Mathematically speaking, if there aren’t enough high value men to date what will the “average woman” do? I think we can use economics as an analogy for this disagreement. Under a standard economic model, two people would make a trade if both parties feel like they would like they would benefit from the trade. Likewise, when women are evaluating whether or not they will date a man (or whatever gender they're dating), the bar really is whether they think they'll be happier in the long run dating this person. If not, they wouldn't date this person, and this is the main point that /u/fiftypoundpuppy is…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/23 08:21 AM
3	Average vs. high-value women? Maybe social constructs isn't the best term here. What I mean is that these are traits that Western society has deemed to be "high value" for women. That is to separate what an individual may like. The example I gave was that some men like tits, some men like ass. I wouldn't disagree with you if you were to say that, if you had a nice ass, you would objectively be better looking than someone that looked the same, but with a worse ass. But it's harder to say aesthetically how to compare someone w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/23 08:07 AM
4	Average vs. high-value women? Since you name dropped me, I feel like I can respond to this. I'm curious what part of what I said reads like creationism, and not science to you. Very little that I said there was stated as some sort of fact, and it wasn't intended to be science, just a personal world view.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/23 07:46 AM
26	Average vs. high-value women? I don't think this is commentary on explicitly what is a high value and what is low value. It's commentary on people who want a partner who contributes more without them contributing themselves, and only succeeding/having this option because of biases in the dating market. It's this Machiavellian take on life where you seek to maximize your gain with the smallest cost, that a lot of people don't sit well with. Realistically I think every man (and I'm speaking as a man) values different things. A…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/23 03:25 AM
1	Berkeley feminist has sex without her partner's enthusiastic affirmative consent. Pretends to be a victim, of his objectification. The majority of asian Americans in the us are still first generation immigrants	/r/MensRights	02/07/16 03:29 AM
1	How much of Women against feminism is driven by tradconism? I'm sorry but tradconism is not a word.	/r/MensRights	04/08/14 06:47 AM