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Stop making generalisations about women! Start making generalisations about Americans. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 02:22 PM
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I'll admit I didn't poll anyone, so maybe me assuming vast majority is a mistake. I still have the impression most people think openly transactional relationships are for losers, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 01:31 PM
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They did what they wanted, though. Also, the gods are relevant, because they naturally have freedoms ordinary mortals don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 01:13 PM
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Guys (and the few gals) at the very top made a point of doing what they wanted. Nero, Catherine the Great, etc. You also brushed over my point about the gods. Even if ninety... or even ninety-nine percent of all relationships in history were arranged and calculated, what people dreamed of and aspired to often wasn't. Because there's little if anything romantic or great about being forced into things by society and other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 12:56 PM
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Perhaps, but for the vast majority of us, this is something instinctive, and not calculated. Thinking about it rationally is perceived to "ruin" it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 12:19 PM
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Relationships involve give and take, but people are inclined to balk at them being openly transactional. Same reason peoples' ideal friendships are spontaneous bonds of affection. It may be true that for most of history, marriage and longer-term relationships among the respectable classes were mostly planned, calculated and openly transactional, but the great matches in history have always been those of love. The affairs of the gods, of emperors and aristocrats have always been those of affectio…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 12:13 PM
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you cant demand people to support and like you The alphabet community and various racial and ethnic minorities do this all the time. You can demand all kinds of things of others; the question is whether you have the influence and power to force or at least influence them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 04:29 PM
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Men who are either physically or otherwise aggressive, attractive and seductive to women or are good at talking women into bed will often sire sons who will be like that too, and it's eminently logical for women to want this in their offspring. There's literally no way to "engineer" this out of women, except some kind of dystopian genetic engineering bullshit to deliberately create a generation of asexual freaks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 02:24 PM
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douchebag, chauvinists dudes This sounds like Nice Guy (tm) bullshit, dude. Women are attracted to strong, healthy, dominant, handsome, charismatic or a combination of these traits, because these have been beneficial traits in humans and indeed mammals since basically forever and women want that in their sons. If you have a problem with this, take it up with Mother Nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 02:21 PM
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You may be right (although, I am of the impression that migrants to the US are actually more likely to be women than those crossing the Mediterranean into Europe), but think about what Trump said. Again, there are millions of illegal alien women in the United States, and let's be frank about this: many of them are engaged in illegal activities including prostitution. But no American politician would ever dream of adding they're whores to Trump's list of illegal alien malfeasance. None. Male, fem…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 02:05 PM
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? I'm agreeing with you... (I think). Trump almost certainly wasn't (specifically) referring to Coyotes, given his other preoccupations when it comes to immigrant crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 07:33 AM
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I'm fairly sure he was talking about illegal immigrant crime against Americans. Because when he mentions specific activities of illegal immigrant criminals, it's usually how this (usually white) American girl got hit by an illegal without a licence, an illegal raped this (usually white) American girl, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 04:46 AM
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Fine, but it still furthers my point... men are hypersensitive to the idea of foreign men being a threat to either themselves or "their women", whereas even though women sometimes can be upset at other women for siphoning off Chad's attention, it doesn't become a massive social or political issue in the same way. There is literally nowhere in the world where an influx of women has received strong pushback as such, from either men or women. You do sometimes have cynical attitudes towards Eastern …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 04:12 AM
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Have you considered Rules 1 &2? Older women can do this to their rich hubbies as well, btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 12:21 AM
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Millions of women have immigrated to the United States over the past decade, and few women have noticeably expressed any particular hostility towards this development for gender-related reasons, whereas the reverse; well... They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people. the next president of the United States
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 04:18 PM
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Not really. And I think I have the ultimate proof of this: womens' attitudes towards age of consent laws. If women really believed that women and girls were corrupted by sexual intercourse in general, they would be as upset about young girls losing their virginity to their same-age peers as by older men. They aren't, though and don't really care at all: because that's not the motivation. Worrying about their little girl's purity or whatever is in general a stereotypical male preoccupation, and f…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 04:15 PM
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Millions of women ARE pouring across the southern border in the US right now, and women don't seem to really care that much about it, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 04:10 PM
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You're absolutely onto something OP. Sexual competition poisons not just sexuality itself, but the relationship between men generally. Men are ready to push each other under the proverbial bus for preferential access to the golden V, and this appears to be deeply instinctual and hard to overcome, with only very close kin not having a baseline level of animosity towards one another. It's why you weren't allowed to bring women (or cute boys lmao) on Royal Navy vessels in the old days. I'd almost g…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:55 PM
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I'm convinced with (East) Asians a lot of it is projection. They know how people back in the old country feel about outsiders muscling in on their turf (how Koreans think about Chinatowns, Japanese ethnic Koreans, Vietnamese ethnic Chinese etc.) and how much Asian nationalists including national governments spend seething about past Western intrusions, so they assume Surely whites are deeply resentful about our presence deep down and will kick us out at the earliest opportunity and restore the p…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 05:55 AM
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What will happen is that the leftist parties will adopt a more ambivalent position on social issues to keep Muslims on side, a sort of every-community-has-the-right-to-their-own-values position, one that basically says Europeans should be gay feminist and trans-friendly because reasons, but also Arabs and non-Europeans have their own valuable heritage and traditions that should be respected etc. etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 05:37 AM
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Ironically, once chuddy Westerners start actually trying to oppress them (mostly for egotistical reasons, like how Reform UK supporters resent their cultural influence despite agreeing with probably 2/3 of what Muslims think when it comes to gender, the family, sexuality etc.), they'll stop straying. Nothing keeps people actually loyal to their faith like real persecution. There comes a point when people stick to their religion just out of defiance and community loyalty rather than sincere belie…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 05:34 AM
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"So when people say Tinder doesn't work, I disagree. It just "is". And the results from that are just a amplified version of how people really feel about each other as dating prospects." People keep saying this, but it's inaccurate. The reality is that people feel actually differently about each other because dating apps exist. Cold approach was theoretically always possible, but for the most part it was rare. This meant that people met each other in social circles, which meant a whole different…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 04:54 PM
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"Lookup dating in the early agricultural era" I was kind of thinking earlier than that to be honest. But even if you're right, yeah we did bring in laws to restrict/end polygamy, and even if some nobles did hoard wealth, bottom line is most people didn't live individually, they worked mostly as a group, sharing their wealth and contributions with the group. So being a "provider" wasn't an explicit decision made on behalf of a particular woman: it was just part of being a physically able person i…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 04:04 PM
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Being rather cynical about this, but my impression is that the source of the expectation is just that local parishes found themselves having to provide for the destitute, something that became more and more common with the decline of the extended family and especially the rise of anonymous urban living. I mean obviously being able to do more and create more wealth for your people has always been admired and respected no matter what the economic or social system, but it's going to be particularly…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 03:38 PM
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Both men and women for most of our existence as human beings lived more communally. Everyone was a "provider" and worked for the family/tribe, because everyone was expected to earn their keep. Obviously there were some tasks men could do better (hunting/carrying heavy things, keeping scary animals and men away), and others women seemed to have more of a knack for (sewing, gathering, taking care of babies, housework generally). But the idea that as a single man you should somehow be expected to i…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 03:24 PM
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I find it hard to condemn women for loving dangerous men, because even most of the men here resent society and wish they could get away with treating its dictates with the contempt and disrespect that dangerous men do. They hate marriage. They hate the double-standards in dating and the relationship between the sexes generally. Isn't it a bit of a paradox to hate women for loving those stronger men who are able to successfully deal with society on close to their own terms? Are society and its ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 02:37 PM
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Men aren't really powerful though, not the average man. Only a minority of men are powerful enough and have the impunity to do things society and women claim to resent "men" doing, like play women and be domineering. The average Joe is just slinking around, trying not to be caught up in the proverbial gears.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 12:38 AM
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Chad literally exists. The only people who deny it have both/either never been Chad or seen Chad in action. Or they're women in denial who are telling everyone else and maybe themselves that they aren't like that when they are. All of them, Not literally, but it might as well be. The long and short of it is that women do literally all the cringe and thirsty stuff men do around/to women they want to bang... but just for Chad. They might even be more aggressive because women are unlikely to ever g…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:26 PM
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Obviously smoking is bad for you but also being impulsive can be attractive in both men and women sometimes; in men, because it's seen as a sign of bravery which both women and men admire; in women, because women who are impulsive and pleasure-seeking have a certain appeal, for obvious reasons. You know when you're on a date with a girl who both smokes and drinks that there's a good chance of her being extremely emotional and sexually forward. At the very least, there's no way you're going to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 12:20 AM
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OP is right that some inkwells have sexual jealousy towards women but they shouldn't. Women don't feel validated and won't get props from other women just for hitting it unless it's Gigachad and/or he puts a ring on it, or buys her a Ferrari afterwards. Men who are jealous of women for this shit are projecting. I mean they're sort of right that women are coddled in general but yeah them being able to have sex with random guys or even normal Chad more easily than inkwells can get their little guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 09:29 AM
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This. Also, smoking is cool especially now that only the most impulsive people are still doing it, the saying goes If she smokes, she pokes and let's face it, even the biggest chuds have to admit that slutty women are more fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 08:21 AM
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There are different kinds of social messaging, and there are limits to how much someone trying to produce social messaging can mold what people want. Even when you're delivering propaganda or whatever you have to wrap it up in a nice sexy and appealing package or people won't consoom it at all. If your TV show or movie just has obese middle-aged hairy lesbians and mentally-ill fat guys or whatever in it, no-one will watch and you've wasted your efforts, which is they (mostly) don't do that. It's…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 07:46 AM
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This is what people want to see, for hard-coded evolutionary reasons. They want to see strong, attractive men and beautiful women on screen and on the page, doing exciting, fun romantic things. There is nothing communists, Christians, feminists or anyone else can do about this: the best they can do is try to harness these impulses for their own purposes, but they can't fully tame or control them. It's sort of like how decades of feminist condemnation of age-gap and power-gap relationships can do…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 07:40 AM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 07:32 AM
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That's... precisely my point? Sorry, I don't get what you're saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 07:31 AM
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The fiction reflects a suppressed desire that is already there. In both my example, and yours. I actually agree with the pearl-clutchers in the case of your example that no; it is more than just harmless fantasy, it reflects mens' desires (not to steal cars or rob hookers or whatever specifically, but to do exciting risky and impulsive things). However, banning it wouldn't do anything. They make the art, literature, and in this case video games to cater to the existing desire, not the other way …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 07:25 AM
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Is there never a point where you'd have to admit the chuddies have a bit of a point, though? Imagine how someone in the 17th or 18th centuries would have reacted if you'd told them that a few hundred years into the future, someone could legitimately be pursued by the authorities for looking at a woman in a disrespectful way. To them, it would be the stuff of comedic fiction, the hardest thing would be to get them to take the idea seriously. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 07:20 AM
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The argument is that the State competes with men for power and sovereignty; so the State naturally has an incentive to make the individual man weaker and more submissive, in its own interest. This is true both in nominally democratic societies like ours, and in the more distant past when kings competed for power with their nobles. Even if the individual man has a (slight) role in law-making through access to the ballot, in practice, new legislation (let's be real here, mostly introduced at the b…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 07:15 AM
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Fiction is more important than you think: fiction and legend can reflect what people really desire. This is why, when someone truly incredible emerges in the world, people often describe him (and it almost always is a him) as larger-than-life. Other similar terms are often used, like the stuff of legends. The implication is that This is what a man in the real world should be like, but almost always are not; now he has come.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 07:09 AM
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I don't believe I quoted or mentioned you at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 07:04 AM
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To an extent, I am one of said complainers. I actually think that many typical inkwell laments about society are pretty much spot on the money; and perhaps it's understandable why many men are bitter about women trying to condition men to be weak and submissive, and then despising the result. Either way, however, I don't see how women can be blamed for admiring and loving brave and strong men itself; and arguably the more difficult it is to be so in society, the more those men who remain so are …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 06:49 AM
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Its most likely why so many guys are obsessed with “Nice Guys Finishing Last” because the men they see as low value (their bullies, felons, etc) get more pussy. I do find it funny these guys think women with children are low value, but not the women who actively date bullies, felons, etc, but I digress. The taboo truth behind this one, though, is that disgruntled young men are often wilfully blind to the real reason why bad boys are popular. They often have spent their entire youth complaining a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 06:41 AM
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Men had ways to make society less shitty for them. They were called pre-1960s, and to a greater extent, Victorian and pre-Victorian laws (marriage and coverture and the exclusion of women from Parliament, the law, and public society). This ensured social mores that favoured men; children over the tender years were automatically custody of their fathers, prostitution was somewhat taboo, but the seller was more shamed than the buyer. Women and girls feared sexual scandal more than men, and were as…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 12:53 PM
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If you're genuinely attractive to women your same age and older as an older man (power, money, great body, still handsome face), you're also going to be attractive to young women. Older men who are only "attractive" to their same-age peers or older women aren't really attractive at all; they're just the settle down provider guys. Literally the same thing is true of older women; an awful lot of women in their late 20s, 30s, or even 40s only have a husband because he doesn't make the cut to actual…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 04:04 PM
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don't fuck men without real commitment The problem with this idea is that women can't help wanting to be sluts for Chad. They just see him and start doing slutty things around and to him (I am lucky enough to know what this is like first hand, so I literally can't be persuaded that this isn't true). Good girls are a meme, or rather biologically good (effective) girls who are attracted to what is good (not morally, but biologically) know a good thing when they see him, and will stop at nothing to…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 03:22 PM
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I thought the Party line on this issue was that only perverts (never got laid in high school, bad in bed, small penis, etc.) believed in the wall, and that normal, well-adjusted men loved mature, experienced women? Are men who like to proverbially eat fresh a minority of deviants, or a non-so-secret plurality or even majority? Or does the claim change depending on which argument is being made at the time?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 03:08 PM
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I mean, you're absolutely right about revenge porn, that is more a thing women worry about being victimised by. This just occurred to me because lately I've been on dating apps and strange women have added me on conversation apps and sent me variously intimate pictures of themselves, and expected me to reciprocate. Like, lady, how do I know you aren't some dude who's going to spread pics (or even videos) of me jerking my gherkin all over the Internet for kicks/blackmail me/whatever. I also find …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 01:27 AM
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Women have plain and simply seen exactly what men think of them as the red pill community and the PUA community have opened women’s eyes To be fair, the reverse is also true; FDS, Megalia, etc. Men are obviously more sexually desperate in general rather than just for Chad the way women are, so even after being disillusioned still have a cock and balls, and are more likely to still try and do what comes natural. how perverted and untrustworthy most men are I'm curious to know what you mean by thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 03:39 PM
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Of course it is political; sex is as political as any other aspect of society. Sex is regulated in all kinds of ways. Prostitution is regulated or banned; age of consent laws exist, laws specifying what consent is, how drunk she can or can't be exist, laws regulating, banning our authorising abortion exist. Sex is and has always been a profound concern of the State, and is something the State in every society has paid great attention to regulating, controlling, and managing. Ours is no exception…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 02:38 PM
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Dating apps need only be used by a minority of the population to shift dynamics and change social behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 02:11 PM
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An interesting part of this is the decline of privacy as well. People (and as usual, this mostly but not only means men) feel themselves always under massive scrutiny because of the fact that anyone can say anything about them at any time for anyone to see and read. A sensible person isn't going to want to send strangers or even acquaintances or friends pictures of their genitals or nude body, because of the fear that they will be later used against them in revenge. A sensible person will even b…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 02:10 PM
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You could say this about any social issue or topic. r/politics/? Just make lots of money so you can bribe politicians and get the policies you want, bro. I'm not saying lift more, take a shower, iron your shirt, etc. aren't good ideas, but they are relevant to just the personal side of things, not the societal. There seems to be a tendency to say that gender issues should be discussed mainly or only as such; in a way that wouldn't be applied to other spheres of human and social life.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 01:58 PM
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PurplePillDebate is a neutral community to discuss sex and gender issues, specifically those pertaining to r/TheBluePill and r/TheRedPill.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 01:44 PM
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Technology isn't just making it easier for women to meet the most attractive men, it's actually making women attracted to a smaller proportion of the male population. This is obviously having enormous implications for society.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 01:40 PM
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Surely everyone should just be Chad isn't a real argument. This works on an individual level... maybe... but is obviously useless when talking about social group dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 01:38 PM
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Black and white thinking. Less attractive men receive attention, but it's of a different kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 01:30 PM
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No; and you're getting personal as a way to avoid the argument. I'm assuming that single people are often very unhappy as you say, because they are lonely and sexually frustrated; but we can't assume that people in relationships are necessarily happy or fulfilled, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 01:23 PM
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What kind of relationships (how loving/passionate/successful)? How long are they in these relationships? Picking out the top men for flings and then also/additionally letting other guys have a go at some point aren't mutually exclusive. The irony is that this kind of comment essentially accuses the other side of "seeing things in black and white," but really, that's what you're doing. You're dividing people into those in and out of relationships, without considering what the relationship side is…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 12:02 PM
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Yes, obviously even in Ye Olde Days, the village idiot and town rapist/drunkard/dangerous guy might not have ended up married. This is not the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 01:12 AM
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I'm being somewhat facetious, but I think you should consider that what I'm saying might not be entirely untrue. More choices - and seeing in technicolour every single day what you're missing out on - don't necessarily make people happier; they can make people dissatisfied and chasing the next high, which isn't just a phenomenon in dating, but in any number of spheres of life. The potential implications of the idea make people very uneasy, which is why saying so is often not well-received.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 01:10 AM
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A malady of Venus; a regrettable affliction of the amorous. A lamentable consequence of carnal indulgence.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 06:10 PM
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The Tedpill/Shariapill would fix some of this. Women aren't going pine after Chad celebrities if they don't exist without film and music studios, quality printing, and reliable and safe transport to get women to plays/music venues, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 06:08 PM
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If by shit you mean social diseases, then yes. Wise Oriental sovereigns were careful to keep their proverbial mares locked up in the stable. Mostly because they didn't want wild stallions impregnating them, but it also had the benefit of making sure the royal member stayed in optimal condition and wouldn't end up getting a nasty surprise.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 06:01 PM
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Literally all men could gym, diet and otherwise looksmaxx, and all it would do is just raise the bar. Most men don't do this, which is why individual ascension is possible, but in a world where most women can easily pick out the top 5% to 20% of guys and ignore most of the rest thanks to technology, some men are just going to have to lose. Good bad or indifferent about it, that is the reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:54 PM
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I was going further back than this. By the 20th and even 19th centuries, romantic attitudes towards women were much more universal than in previous eras. That's not a licence for you to go hunting for evidence of romantic sentiments in earlier times to prove me wrong: I'm not saying they weren't there, I'm just saying they weren't as prevalent, yet still as overwhelmingly the norm. By the way, this is why it was such a shock for modern Westerners confronted with many Asian, African, and other no…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:36 PM
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What would actually help men the most is if they sincerely stopped caring as much (or at all) about how women feel about them. In the old days, men who didn't have what it took to become established in life (yet, in some cases ever) just banged some whores and that was it, problem solved for a while at least. They won't do it now, because they actually want to be wanted. Men now won't get over this, because they've been trained to care above almost anything about how women feel and worshipping C…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 08:56 AM
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unless they were mentally ill Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 05:51 PM
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Pretty sure women are equally nonplussed by single dads, sadly (romcoms are not real). Not that that excuses guys being cruel to them for no good reason. To be honest, there's a general and unpleasant tendency among some of both sexes to actively go out of their way to despise people they don't want to have sex with, as if somehow holding back would necessarily cause them to run an at least slightly higher risk of mating with them. The more obvious example of this is how many men seem to somehow…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:47 PM
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There something to it OP. But it goes way beyond married guys; men seem generally inclined to tear each other down, unless social engineering or social structures of some kind stop it (or the other dude(s) are your literal brothers or at least cousins or something). Dudes IRL are practically rearing at the bit to call each other predators and sexpests, losers and creeps just as much as women do, and the cynical explanation is that they are either jealous they couldn't get in there, or are hoping…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 01:22 PM
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Not really, I think if you consider it for a moment, you'll agree there's a lot of dudes out there feeling suddenly "bad" about being normal and not being able to punch above their weight in a way that seemingly didn't bother our ancestors at all; this subreddit is full of them. You don't agree? And it seems somewhat odd and paradoxical that guys would feel particularly worse about settling than previous generations of men. I think my theory offers an explanation. In the past, to be honest even …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 12:52 PM
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Same reason people feel worse today about having average jobs, average houses, or average anything than they used to. Also why care? Why care about anything - I'm not even exactly trying to justify it, just explain it. I think there is a rational or at least logical cause for the average successful/attractive guy to at least ASPIRE to getting a hot chick and feeling like other people will judge him for not doing so because it's more likely and possible now. Same reason smart guys and even not-sm…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 12:42 PM
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Thing is, people are spending more time online than IRL than before, which sways the dynamics of IRL socialising too. This has been a slow process; but imagine how much different socialising was in say, the year 1750 than it is today. Most people didn't even get newspapers (which were slow and out of date usually) let alone have TV and the Internet. Socialising with people in your "field," line of work or peer group was vital, just to not be left out of the loop. This meant that EVERYONE had to …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 06:16 AM
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Difference is, in the old days, even above average men were more likely to NATURALLY meet women their own age and attractiveness; nowadays they're more likely to be meeting women online, which means that the kind of woman every man ends up with more strongly reflects his level of attractiveness. Top men are less likely to end up with coworkers or acquaintances out of familiarity and proximity the way they used to just like average men. In the old days, Chad at work dated the slightly above avera…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 06:10 AM
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Perhaps unironically. These guys would likely be just as angry and bitter about having settled, so it's probably a good thing for both people (not) involved if a man who feels that way about a woman doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 11:57 AM
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I fail to see what your question has to do with my comment. I attempted to explain OP's query concerning the motivation behind guys who tell women they're "expired;" and I think my explanation is likely the correct one.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 11:15 AM
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Also, a "strong welfare system" is not a good thing. I didn't say it was: I was just suggesting it as a possible explanation as to why people in some of the places you dated (possibly Continental European) may have been less materialistic than in the US and some other more fiscally conservative English-speaking nations. I just flatly don't believe you when you suggest that typical people in all those different countries (especially developing nations) don't really care about money, or even care …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 10:29 AM
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I'm going to take a wild guess, and presume that many of the countries you dated in were Continental European places with strong welfare systems. Money is definitely a big deal for many Asians, Africans, and Latin Americans. Westerners there often escape crass, open gold-digging because it's already generally assumed that you have money unless there's a particular reason to think otherwise. You can be sure many, many local men in these regions get asked about their house and car or lack thereof,…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 10:18 AM
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Show me on the doll where the Anglo touched you. Did he have cold, beady eyes? Did he mock the firebombing of Dresden? Was he consumed by a lust for overseas commerce and bland, uninspiring food? <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 10:10 AM
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the Korean minority in Qazaqstan went from 100 people to 150,000+ in under 15 years. Huh? I don't even know what you're trying to say here, obviously the ethnic Korean population in Kazakhstan did not increase from 100 to 150,000 in under 15 years. Perhaps you've made a typo or something. I go there and look, rather than pay attention to online fads. What do you look at exactly? And what do Anglos believe in? You haven't said.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 09:47 AM
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Everywhere outside the tiny bubble of the Anglosphere dating is better Debatable. Dating in places like South Korea, Singapore, etc. doesn't seem that great for a lot of people. and it is getting better How do you figure? How is dating in Taiwan, France or Poland particularly better than in Australia or the UK? My suspicion is that many men from First World countries visit Africa, Asia, and Latin America, and are surprised that they have a relatively pleasant time of dating because they have inc…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 09:37 AM
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The sort of men who get duty sex aren't particularly likely to get any other kind anytime soon. That's not to say that it necessarily is better than doing without, but if you're asking why guys don't complain about it that's why. The end result could well be the women explicitly realising We don't click (anymore), breaking up, and that dude just whacking it for the indefinite future.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 08:52 AM
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Because outside of Euphemismland, we're all pretty much aware that everyone's physical type is fit and healthy. You're not my physical type is just a more polite and refined way of saying Go easy on the Big Macs and try again, which is something fat people get upset by hearing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 07:54 AM
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I kind of agree with you; my only point was that dating apps and the Internet are influencing how people see and relate to one another beyond the 80:20, the time of mankind is over, Chad is hogging all the chicks stuff. As I see it, people (both women and men) are judged more than they used to be on the (romantic) company they keep. Because in theory you can meet ANYONE, the assumption more than ever before is, This is the best you can do? And if the best isn't really that great, well...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 07:50 AM
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Why are you so concerned about how other people see your love life? Do you think other people are so caught up in other people's opinions they let it dictate everything they do? You're making this very personal. Also yes, even in a very atomised era, social media and the "fishbowl" aspect of modern live makes people more concerned with how they're seen, I think. Certainly on average. And you do know people who date are usually already familiar with each other, right? Dating apps have made that p…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 07:43 AM
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This might be somewhat happening already. I don't know if it works in the dating world, but I'm finding a lot of people are still braving 2024 drink prices to socialise at the bar specifically just to chat with random people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 06:19 AM
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Woops, no Redpill flair so posting my comment here: In the same way as many women (more successfully) try to get mid/below-mid guys to be pickmes and simps for them by reminding them that many of them have no choice but to pay up for free meals/put a ring on it/insert demand here because if you're not Chad you won't get treated like Chad and don't deserve to be, many men are hoping to humble women by making them think more negatively about themselves, making them more likely to be good bangmaids…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 06:02 AM
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Flirting is a learned skill by unattractive men. When you're attractive, you literally don't have to do anything; women will do the "flirting" for you; and all you have to do to flirt back is smile, and get an erection rather than flinch when (attractive, young) women rub their hands and breasts all over you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 11:36 PM
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Dating apps didn't work for you? Have sex incel Dating apps did work for you? Stop lying incel
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 02:23 PM
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This guy is delusional. The weakening of community bonds and mass transportation and communication generally (not just dating apps) mean that men are increasingly replaceable, and women know it. This changes the whole dynamic of relationships. Obviously, women can still feel attracted and excited to an individual man, but it's much more unlikely for to reasonably decide that a particular man really is good enough. Argumentum ad absurdum, but think about just how incredible different a man's expe…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 02:18 AM
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To be honest, the main problem with the pills is that to an extent, they're a strawman and argumentum ad absurdum. Very few people really fit into the categories entirely, but some of the tenets of each are just common sense. Most people with eyes to see what's happening around them are a little blackpilled. Most people who aren't completely lazy and depressed are a little redpilled and understand not being fat, being stronger, and being a little informed and educated is under your control, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 05:03 PM
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The strongest and most virile men will want to rearrange your guts well into your 50s and maybe beyond. But they will also be hitting everything else in sight as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:22 AM
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Can't find the automod so posting my comment here. OP I think the shock for most men today isn't that looks matter, it's the extent to which women are able to easily get get attention from and into contact with and bang the most attractive men from hundreds and thousands of miles around thanks to social media and dating apps, which was a massive change in how dating works almost no-one saw coming. This is a strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 09:56 AM
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We live in a liberal society that doesn't manage and control peoples' sexual behaviour anymore (edit: well, actually it does control mens' behaviour in all kinds of ways, but you know what I mean). Whether you think that's right or wrong, that's the way things are at the moment. If you're a man who can't get a woman the way you are right now, it's not unreasonable to have it suggested to you that you work on Rules 1 & 2 if getting a woman is not something you're willing to do without (yes, even …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:01 PM
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This hasn't worked, OP. Mainly because even after tweaking this one thing, in general society and societal standards are still built around what women think. To make it so that men who visit prostitutes are unironically considered the equal of men who marry beautiful women who love them, you'd have to massively and literally de-grade women and their opinions, such that men stopped caring what they think and how they feel at all, for the most part. That's not going to happen any time soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 03:07 AM
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Some of these traddorks probably convince themselves that part's actually okay because based defined gender roles or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 07:51 PM
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Can't find the automod, so reposting my comment here: The main cause of it is simply aging. Being a rolling stone is much less glamorous at 30, 40, and 50 than it is for a young man. If you aren't going to swear off women completely, you have two choices: settle down, or become that guy at the bar. Alphas are generally the high-test type that are less able than other men to swear off women, so if they retire from the party lifestyle, settling down is more likely to seem sensible to them. They wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 04:11 PM
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I don't know that it necessarily does improve your odds. For one thing, a foreign man overseas today immediately loses home field advantage: sure he gets some "points" for being exotic, but in terms of any dealings with the authorities, the local community etc. he's under often under suspicion and under a lot of pressure to be beta and compliant. Especially when it comes to anything to do with women, one wrong move especially if you've gone and gotten yourself tied up legally (marriage, etc.), y…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 03:35 PM
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I guess the thing is, on one hand, you had concrete Western culture, in the form of Western movies, music, television. They heyday for this of course was the 1960s until around 10 years ago (although it's still pretty strong, it doesn't have quite the influence it once did). But then you have stuff like television as a medium, the Internet and dating apps (non-Westerners have their own versions now like Tantan), etc. Now, you could say these were first developed in the West and so because of imi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 03:26 PM
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We might grudgingly concede that some of the cultural changes since the 19th century and accelerating since the 1960s and more recently with the rise of social media have their roots in the West... but to be honest, a lot of this is arguably due to technological and structural changes that weakened the heckin based trad patriarchy, not just specifically Western culture and our inherent desire to be coomers or whatever as so many Thirdies and East Asians like to imagine. Scapegoating the West for…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 02:56 PM
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I don't see how this is relevant to the point I was making, at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 02:49 PM
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Both cheating because your spouse doesn't want or cannot have sex and cheating because your spouse doesn't want or cannot have children, is unjustifiable. You're basically saying men should basically just jerk it indefinitely unless they want a divorce? And that's not always a great option especially if the couple have children; obviously in the modern day and age getting a divorce also means blowing up half your money. The whole thing is unfortunate for married men; and the way it gives the wif…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 02:10 PM
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I always find this argument that men are out to dominate and control their wives pretty ironic, given that the whole way the marriage system works is precisely intended to ensure that essentially all husbands are under the whip on pain of losing their children and property. It's massive projection tbh. Or at the very least, it's a case of pot meet kettle.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 12:46 PM
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You need money to pay bills, eat food and literally exist in society. The dole is still a thing, and Labour are back. I get your point, but the problem is if it becomes a pattern or norm in your relationship. If she can turn off the sex for weeks at a time and yet you're totally expected to always keep it in your pants, you will end up under her thumb, ironically making her even less attracted to and wanting to have sex with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 11:55 AM
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Actually, here's an analogy for what it's like. Picture if you married a woman and told her she wouldn't have to work, and in fact you EXPECTED her not to. She was okay with it, because you had a great job and were a good provider. But then you lost your job, and instead of hustling for a new one, you decided to spend your new free time down by the river drinking cans of Morrisons Saver lager, £1.30 for a four pack. Your wife in this scenario cannot be faulted for going out and getting a job, ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 11:44 AM
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I mean, I'm not married, so this is not my problem. But if I was, and my wife stopped putting out AND expected me to stay le faithful, I would be pretty unhappy about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 11:40 AM
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Married men often aren't willing to step out of their marriage when she stops putting out, because they know very well that this will be brought up before the court in the divorce, and used to rob him of every last farthing by painting him as the villain of the tale, even though the woman wasn't performing her own wifely duty to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 11:21 AM
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More like you lack experience with the broad masses of the population. Go to your local Lidl or hang about on the high street in the evening; plenty of people walking around out there don't turn into anything like wise, emotionally mature intellectual sages and financial wizards as well at any age.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 11:10 AM
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So you think its okay for a grown ass man to date a 14yo? I don't see where you're getting this from. Come again? I was arguing that young women are more likely to be focused on charisma and attractiveness, and when you asked me, I said that this is also likely to be the case of younger teenage girls as well. I believe this to be the case. Lol I dont need anyone to cook. I can cook just fine myself, I am looking for a woman that has a job and is fully capable of living an independent life. Many …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 11:08 AM
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Huh? I'm finding it hard to follow your argument, or what it has to do with mine. I didn't say anything at all about innocence or naiveite.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 10:57 AM
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There's definitely something to this. Women find it difficult if not impossible to do or say anything negative about attractive men, especially in person - so this is basically an abstract, internet-only discussion. In real life, very attractive older men who are able to pull young women are those who, well, succeed, and are popular with women of all ages who are inclined to simp for them. The irony here is that the men who most get chewed out for cradle-robbing are... those unattractive guys wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 10:33 AM
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Same logic applies to 14 yo my friend I mean, probably? Especially since they don't have expenses or adult responsibilities yet. Also older women dont go for the bank or the ring. At that age they have that covered themselves. They absolutely do; even in the 21st century, there's still an attitude that "he'd better be carrying his own weight" which basically means the same thing in practice. There's also very much this idea that since older men are less likely to have the virtues of young men (c…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 10:25 AM
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I hear what you're saying, but try putting basically the same arguments, this time about older women in a beta frustrated incel-type guy's mouth, and all the sudden it would seem much more sinister. Older women are quite right to wonder if the guys sneering about how Chad would only want to pump and dump you so you need to be realistic and settle down with someone less attractive like me who will tolerate your mediocrity really love them, and the same is true the other way around. "Leagues" are …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 07:09 AM
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there’s a reason women their own age don’t want them Most young women have higher standards than their older sisters, not lower. Or rather, different standards: a young woman is more likely to be focused on things like looks, talent, charisma, and physical prowess, whereas older women in their settle-down phase are somewhat more likely going straight for the bank account or at least the ring (although in an absolut world, they would want all that other good stuff, too). While some girls and youn…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 05:53 AM
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So we're back to Rules 1 & 2. I guess that's a wrap, folks!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 05:34 AM
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What’s creepy is the amount of unattractive, old geezers that actually think young beautiful women want them for anything other than financial incentives… 😂. What makes you think older women date older men for any different reasons? Big guts, wrinkly skin and bald heads aren't really any more attractive to older women than they are to younger women. I'm suspicious of older women who claim that younger women will be disgusted by these attributes, but that they're catnip to an older man's same-age…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 04:36 AM
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To be quite frank, the social norm has always been that men are "supposed" to be experienced. This isn't even a new thing, either: it's always been this way. There is no demographic of women who won't be turned off by that, and suggest to other women that there's something wrong with a man who isn't. This is why so many young guys are desperate to start sticking it in by their early 20s at the latest: despite everything women will tell you about connections and relationships and all that stuff (…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 04:05 AM
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1. Be attractive. 2. Don't be unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 03:58 AM
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It's not a sign of that at all. It's a sign that society doesn't want people under a certain age dating period. This is not quite true: in many societies, there are now so-called Romeo and Juliet laws, specifically designed to facilitate close-in-age relationships between people in their mid-to-late teens and early twenties, while continuing to punish older men. Additionally, it's becoming increasingly rare for minors themselves to be punished for engaging in unlawful sexual activity, something …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 03:33 AM
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It's a spectrum. Women will be very aggressive with the very most attractive men, somewhat with those next level, and so on all the way down. Not really that different from how men behave: rabidly gunning for pretty young things, not really keen on your grandma, but willing to consider your chubby aunt with a nice smile and big jugs. The only difference between the sexes is really just that more men don't make the cut as far as women are concerned, and are more desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 03:12 AM
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I have been that guy, can confirm. And anime shit is a great way to describe it. Presents Dumb giggling at anything you say Direct compliments, "Do you have a girlfriend?" Winking, lip-licking Random hugs as well as arm- and hand-holding Finding excuses to get "too close" to you and rub their breasts and hands all over you Generally aggressive behaviour Ironically, the terrible part of having experienced this kind of thing in the past in the is that it makes "normal" dating the way most guys alw…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 03:05 AM
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I think you overestimate how much wiser people including yourself get as you age. There are plenty of young people with sense and intelligence, and plenty of older people without either. Ironically, you would probably agree with this argument, as long as it was being used to cast an older man negatively, as a dottering old fool already in decline, who has no business being around the young, sharp and vigorous. There's sort of a Schrödinger thing going on here: older men are both flabby, flaccid …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 02:56 AM
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I have to admit, I'd be a hypocrite to condemn an older woman for warning younger women off of age gap relationships, if she genuinely believes that they're bad for women. Because I basically do the male version of this: whenever a male acquaintance has ever expressed an openness to the idea of getting married, I've always suggested he take a rain check and think twice. I could just as easily be accused of being an old bitter asshole who pisses in other peoples' strawberries because I'm aging ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 02:47 AM
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The logic is quite obvious: if the woman doesn't like the guy, the decent thing is to come up with an excuse to cut the night short. If she has the coffee, dinner, dessert and drinks, then winces when he tries to kiss her let along get in there, yeah no shit he's going to feel a bit used. The sex thing is probably a bit of a strawman/exaggeration: I'm sure there are some men that do literally push for sex on the very first date, most men wouldn't expect it, but would be hoping for signs that it'…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 12:41 AM
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This is true; but it's also a useless and pointless thing to say. The young male of the human species like every other sexually-reproducing organism will be driven by instinct to mate with females at almost any cost.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 12:44 PM
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Sex Is a need as a man. Food - Water - Oxygen - Sex One of these is not like the others!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 02:54 PM
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Thing is, a lot of those women will end up quite frigid in their relationships and marriage. Sometimes, the society and system really do degrade everything, and this is one very good example. In a earlier, better time, girls who were wild and fun by nature might have ended sleeping with with 5 or 6 guys in their village (which admittedly a lot of guys despised back then hence the old bicycle meme) but they simply wouldn't have had the opportunity to get the huge figures that a woman like that wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 10:03 AM
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What is Tragedy of the Commons for £200, Alex?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 07:13 PM
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My point was that without a clear enemy, the social and political power of those who see themselves as activists will be reduced. Less people will pay attention, less money will be spent, less "progress" will be made. Not only this - but feminists going easy on men would (correctly) be seen as weakness, and would both dishearten the cutting edge of feminism that is demanding more, and cheer enemies of the movement without endearing these enemies to the previous waves. They've already gone "too f…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 02:59 AM
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What if... your ideas of good and evil are wrong? What if the good men weren't really good, just weak?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 08:42 PM
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It's the death throes of a social movement. Massive wishful thinking here. I'll believe it when I see many of the social mores popularised and laws passed since feminists gained power being rolled back. In b4 Roe v Wade reversal, do you any other examples? You'd only know feminists were truly on the way out if their major victories going all the way back to the 19th century were completely overturned. The incredible success of feminism is illustrated by the fact that you could reverse every femi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 08:27 PM
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I've said it before: Feminists cannot, and will not help men. The reason is quite simple; it's foolish to help your enemy back on his feet when you have him on his knees. My favourite analogy for this is Revolutionary France. How did the Paris mob react to the average noble trying to get pity points by telling revolutionaries about how he'd been mistreated (kids murdered, wife raped, property destroyed)? Were they inclined to show mercy? No. In fact, the more reasonable and obviously legitimate …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 05:37 PM
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It's becoming painfully clear and obvious that many feminist issues are in fact zero-sum in practice. If women gain, men lose and vice-versa. If there are quotas and special help for women in education and the workplace, men lose out on the same. If it's easier for women to make Title IX accusations against men and get them kicked out of college, it's harder for men to defend themselves against false allegations and stay. Ditto for workplace sexual harassment allegations. If women get more in di…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 05:15 PM
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If they're senior high school students, then let's face it, you probably are talking about most male teachers (and judging by recent news reports, many female teachers as well) occasionally having thoughts they'd be unwise to admit to publicly. They're only human, although of course rules are rules. Historically girls and boys in their teens were almost exclusively taught by the same sex, and the perceived lesser chance of improprieties was a part of it. You can stop pointing and spluttering alr…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 04:57 PM
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I assumed inkwell is meant to be a le ironic and funnay misspelling.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 04:53 PM
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Read carefully; he specifically said think about. Thinking is not a crime (yet). Maybe we're going with the Christian standard, where having sinful thoughts really is something you have to be penitent about. How trad of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 04:49 PM
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Forest, trees. My point is that with a little creative lawmaking, it would not be difficult in theory to make sexual misconduct a woman thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 02:04 PM
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What that guy just said, was a long rant, condemning men for having thoughts. and the sort of thoughts that are the inevitable result of having a sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 01:10 PM
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Men aren't pieces of shit, though. Having a sex drive isn't a crime, even if you have a penis, and aren't Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 12:53 PM
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Thing is, OP, "pervy" literally means "abnormal." If you're saying that actions and urges usually considered "pervy" are actually very common to men, what you're implying, in fact, is that they are not perverted.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 11:48 AM
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Male sexuality is perceived as more predatory and dangerous today, simply because the threshold for social sanction and legal action specifically about what men do is so much lower than it once was. If overnight we made prostitution (defined as selling sex, not buying), performing or seeking an abortion, adultery and attempted adultery (defined only and specifically as a wife cheating or an unmarried woman having relations with a married man), indecent dress (defined only and specifically as ind…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 11:42 AM
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I was trying to explain to OP with an answer of what I think are some of the reasons for the decline of the classic PUA-style redpill. You responded with a very personal rant.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 10:06 AM
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Men who get ruined in divorce and end up in jail because they weren't able to keep their woman in the lifestyle she was accustomed to before are being coerced and abused as much as any woman who ever lived. Men who make the mistake of breaking the law trying to hire a hooker when sexually frustrated (or just pissing in a public place when drunk!) and end up on the sex offenders' register for years and unemployable or homeless are being oppressed as much as any woman who ever lived.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 09:38 AM
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MeToo and the realisation that increasing numbers of women will actually retaliate - both against individuals, and against mankind as a whole - for men trying to escape and avoid commitment. This has caused more men to turn against the whole 1990s just have your fun, why-buy-the-cow-when-you-can-have-the-milk-for-free mentality. Casual dating and messing around with women was between the 1970s and 2000s often seen as a viable alternative to long-term relationships and marriage. Certainly, even i…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 08:56 AM
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I think dating apps are responsible for what seems like a general surge in insecurity and neuroticism in many men. The fact that women can talk Gigachad into coming over and banging her within 30 minutes via an app gives them a lot of leverage in couples' spats. When they have trouble and aren't speaking for a while, putting it crudely the man is probably going to be jerking it for a while while the woman is exploring herself or whatever. It's always been kind of like this to be fair, but social…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 02:34 AM
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Why is it assumed that insecurity and lack of confidence aren't at least sometimes justified by experience or the reality of their situation? For example, take a man who weighs over 20 stone. If he feels insecure about his dating prospects, this is rationally justified by the situation (even if the healthy response to the situation is obvious losing weight or whatever). Take a man who works all day at McDonald's, is it not understandable why he might be a bit diffident in dating situations when …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 02:27 AM
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Anyone else think guys are actually hurting themselves by trying to seem too impressive on dating apps? "Hey" is the Chad greeting, and "watching television" is the correct answer to "WYD?" If she isn't interested, pretending to have exciting hobbies or an enormous vocabulary will change nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 02:13 PM
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What's happened here is that in a different kind of society, both chuds and Chads would be wifing up women more, because there would be less of a downside. Your argument is that women should hold the Chads guilty for their personal actions and people like you innocent, but as far as women are concerned, men who aren't in control are guilty. Of precisely that: not being in charge. Women blame the male population as a whole for things being the way they are, because at the end of the day, they bel…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 09:36 AM
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Women don't really want casual for obvious, evolutionary reasons. Deep down in their little cute cavewoman brains, sex = pregnancy, and more darkly, "casual sex" is rape and abandonment. Play around with women at an increasingly strong risk of being MeToo'd for it. Those guys who indulge can say consenting adults over and over again as many times as they like, it won't change how women often feel about it after the fact, and it won't stop them from crying rape even if it was "consensual." The gr…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:43 AM
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I see what you're saying, but I have a different explanation for it. It's very conspicuous that attitudes towards age-gap relationships are much harsher than they were in previous decades and centuries, and while feminists are inclined simply chalk this up to the decline of the ability of patriarchy to abuse women and girls without pushback (and certainly women collectively gaining more power to set the social agenda and norms has been a big part of this), I think something else is also behind i…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 02:50 PM
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DON'T DATE ROBOTS!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 07:45 AM
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I think the argument in favour of hobbies is less that they will by themselves make you a cool chick magnet per se, and more that having hobbies can potentially open up opportunities to get out there and practice being more sociable, plus it makes men more well-rounded and comfortable in themselves. Especially for men without the dream job, a hobby can be an obvious way of making life meaningful and more fulfilling. Also, it's the Virgin Millennial thing to want to use hobbies to meet women; the…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 01:26 AM
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You don't think women are more upset by older man-younger woman relationships than the reverse? Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 07:16 PM
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Older guys don't care if younger men have children though in comparison. "Don't care had sex" mentality + tradcon "step up/bootstraps" platitudes and cliches: women are faster to admit to weakness, and to admit that some things happening to women in life could just be a massive shit sandwich. More men want to think or at least give the impression that they would be le manly he-man in any situation and stay on top regardless of what life throws at them. Admitting that a situation could be bad eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 05:33 PM
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(Older) women do in general seem less bothered by older women rather than men dating as far down in age as they can, you must admit. They don't actually seem to particularly want to support it, though really; for the most part, the only reason they dislike men bringing it up and get defensive seems to be because they (correctly) see that some men are trying to use it to justify older man-young woman relationships (which they dislike).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 05:15 PM
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It doesn't really seem like women as a whole and older women in particular are that enthusiastic about older female age-gap relationships, though. Or men at all. Stands to reason, since older people of both sexes have lower sex drives, and women start with lower sex drives than men in the first place. My suspicion is that 1) both men and women are more attracted to younger people than their same- and similar age-peers, but that 2) men by nature tend to always have more lead in their pencil on av…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 05:08 PM
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Women seem to be cooler on age-gap relationships generally: they are neutral on young man-older woman relationships and often positively livid about young woman-older man relationships, while men appear neutral-positive about both (and it's reasonable to presume that some of their more positive attitudes particularly in the case of young women are somewhat supressed by feminist influence and pressure). Why this is, is an interesting question.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 04:49 PM
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Why did you write an extended essay about TRP? I was talking about how women feel about hookups. Women as far as I can tell, aren't quite happy with hookup culture, because some man being willing to stick it in (even if he pays for it with some simping, free meals, or even hard cash) isn't that validating or gratifying for them unless he sticks around. The fact that dating apps exist and there's always another dick available doesn't change how they feel, not really. Chad doing that stuff might, …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:56 PM
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The Leo thing might actually not be a great example of older women hating on age gaps per se though, since let's face it he does actually use the chicks for sex, dumps them, and never marries them, which is something that women have been salty about men doing since forever. Then again, older guys who are serious and put a ring on it get accused of being creepy patriarchal chuds and wanting to establish A Handmaid's Tale IRL, so cynics might say they use different arguments for different relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:20 PM
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This is a nice sentiment and all, but it does quickly founder on the rocks of modern reality. A married man in a marriage today has no right to sex. If his wife turns it off, his options are not great: if he files for divorce, chances are he's blowing up his finances and his family. And society has arranged it this way by design. I mean, you can take the very high road and say this hypothetical dude should just jerk it for the next 20 years and blame himself, for picking the wrong one: but let's…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:08 PM
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I don't mean to argue with you for the sake of it, but I'm always wary of the idea that many women young are old are really that into hookups. Whether young or old, I have a strong impression that many women come to regret it, and come to the conclusion that they actually were looking for a relationship even if they didn't say so at the time or admit it, to themselves or to the man; and I suspect the MeToo movement and the current retribution against men generally for their sexual pasts is deep …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 02:48 PM
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STDs? Pregnancy?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 02:38 PM
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your perception that all these younger women are into you is very off Read more carefully. I didn't say many young women are still into me - I said that of those women who still are, the average is still disproportionately young indeed. My theory as to why this is, is quite simply that younger people are on average more interested in the opposite sex. I'm sure most older and even old women also find that even as overall interest in themselves from the opposite sex is dropping off, those who stil…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 02:34 PM
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The concession I'm making to them is this: Even though most young women are sought-after and picky and therefore not an easy mark (which has often been my contention and argument against their argument), at least some of them may actually be a little "easier" than older women for hormonal reasons and nothing else, something which fits in with my experience, which is that older women are less excited and aggressive in general. Because older women are (just like older men) on average tired, less e…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 02:25 PM
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The consenting adult mantra isn't really relevant to my point: which is quite simply that pubescent and slightly post-pubescent humans of both sexes are very hot to trot and easier to turn on, which explains the seeming paradox I referred to in my OP (hot young chicks apparently mostly get the ick from old guys, but apparently some of them at least are still "in danger"). This isn't right or wrong, it's just biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 02:15 PM
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I wasn't actually making a comparative argument between male and female cradle-robbers, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 02:02 PM
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Yes you might get divorced and lose the kids in half your money... But you have the courage to take that risk in the name of Love I agree 100% that this is the bluepill narrative today, but it's worth keeping in mind that there's nothing at all trad about this. If we took the average dude from the 17th, 18th, or early 19th century to the present day and tried to sign him up for this, his reaction would undoubtedly be Hell Naw. In the old days, marriage was le bad for more classic boomer r/wifeba…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 07:08 AM
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The reason for marriage being the way it is today is that society is extremely individualistic. Average Joe taxpayer sees the danger of women having babies without a beta slave male to leech off of, and sees it as a risk to his finance and to social stability. The best way to definitively keep women and children from splashing red ink all over his account books is to push as much of the burden as possible onto some random sucker, and there are plenty of suckers out there because pussy is expensi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 07:00 AM
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The reason for marriage being the way it is today is that society is extremely individualistic. Average Joe taxpayer sees the danger of women having babies without a beta slave male to leech off of, and sees it as a risk to his finances and to social stability. The best way to definitively keep women and children from splashing red ink all over his account books is to push as much of the burden as possible onto some random sucker, and there are plenty of suckers out there because pussy is expens…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 06:54 AM
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The average man is in no position to set boundaries or set anything. He can be replaced in about 10 minutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:06 AM
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I absolutely believe that going to the gym will dramatically improve not just dating, but all facets of most peoples' lives, men or women. That said, it's not a cure-all. And for the average man who isn't stunningly handsome, it is unlikely to get him back on top in relationships. It will just get them into the running at all. Getting to stick it in doesn't say much about the quality of the connection. For teenage boys and college freshmen, that's good or at least good enough: for older men, oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 07:37 AM
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Dating casually is difficult for most men because women are bombarded with choice. If bored women want a fling/affair, something casual, they're going to go with Gigachad from social media, not you the postman or plumber or whatever. Marriage and LTRs are shot for even attractive men, because once again women have so much choice that the pressure will be always on you to let her wear the pants to save the relationship, since she can blow it up at any time and pay no penalty, unlike you, and get …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 07:34 AM
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Doesn't even matter, Anything close to six figures in either country is a lot of money to many people.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 06:50 AM
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Being attractive or not as a man can have drastic consequences not just in dating but in the workplace and society more generally, especially as women are moving up in the world and more interview panels, HR, bosses etc. are women. Obviously it is important for women too, and women do care as much about gender stuff as men do, that's what feminism is after all. The reason why men getting all neurotic and weird about this stuff is so obvious and jarring today is because in the past, men weren't l…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 04:12 AM
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men are going abroad( especially to Asia) and yet their birthrate is still in decline. They aren't; this is a meme overblown by Internet-brained people generally and both delusional weebs and paranoid ricecels in particular. There are literally millions of Asian men and women in every major Western nation, but possibly 1 million Westerners tops living on the entire continent of Asia and increasing numbers of those are actually women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 04:06 AM
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“they’re plenty horny, just not for you” This is true, though. Of all the chudmemes out there, the idea that women are all secret harlots who go into a wild nymphomaniac trance around a mythical Chad like something out of a paranoid 17th century New England Puritan's fever dream is absolutely the most true. Not to brag, but I know this from personal experience, which is why it's so comical and amusing to me when either women themselves or sheltered bluepills deny it. If women act and have always…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 07:35 PM
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Let me give you an analogy. Imagine a bunch of different modern corporations started offering 17th and 18th century-style indentures, which would give you work for up to a decade (even more, if you chose to extend your contract, but seven years to start with) in return for a fixed payment upfront, as well as room and board. You would not be free, and would be subject to massive fines and possibly even imprisonment for trying to leave early, depending on how vindictive they were feeling (they on …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 03:40 PM
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Because instinct and lack of impulse control. Choosing submissive femboys for 99% of human history and prehistory was a bad idea, so women have an instinctive aversion to doing so, even if in a Machiavellian way, it might actually help them politically today in a more peaceful world. It's like asking why most people take sugar in their tea even though most people are consooming more than their RDA of carbohydrates and are giving themselves diabetes and obesity. TBH I don't even really blame them…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 01:03 PM
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Apparently the average US salary is $64,000, while the median salary is $59,000. However you slice it, $80,000 is $20,000 and a whole third more than most people are making. It's not unreasonable to presume there's a whole swathe of the US population making $40,000 or less, for whom anyone even coming close to six figures is Mr. Moneybags.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 11:54 AM
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Why would it be any less delusional to think that a woman your own age or older fell for you? Older women never stop telling us that young women have attractive options so they aren't interested in - and don't need to settle for - fat bellies, wrinkly balls and balding pates. Is there any reason to think that older women are actually any more appreciative of them, rather than just (sometimes) tolerating them out of desperation?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 06:41 AM
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I've been on both sides of this proverbial fence. Ironically, it's because I have known what it's like to be attractive to women (and know what real desire looks like) that I can see that what most men are getting isn't that. Real desire is fantastical, and hard to imagine for most men who haven't experienced it. The memes about how much better le meme Chad has it are 100% true. I can't be moved from this conviction, because I believe it not based on the rantings of bitter Internet chuddies, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 06:24 AM
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An older (and usually unattractive) man is no more sincerely attractive to his age/looksmatch than he is to someone much more attractive. Unattractive people (while sometimes more desperate) don't have rose-tinted glasses. Think about it this way: imagine tomorrow, a young handsome man is hit by a bus that destroys his face, and leaves him looking monstrous and for most people, entirely unlovable. Is a morbidly obese girl now more likely to actually love this man than the sort of girls who would…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 03:53 AM
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"...if you're unattractive, you're going to be only or overwhelmingly targeted by the "wrong" kind of woman of any age, simply because the "right" kind of woman obviously won't be attracted to you. This is something unattractive men worry about (traditionally they worry about being taken for a ride for their money), but it also can bother unattractive women, who worry about being seen disrespectfully as an easy option or outlet for men who aren't fussy and just want to find anyone to take care o…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 03:49 AM
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On the contrary, the argument could be made that so many women are dangerous, that redflagging some of them because of their coloured hair, piercings, tattoos, drinking habits, distant relationship with their father or other tiresomely old-fashioned sort of folk mental health and social status diagnoses (and therefore greenflagging all or most of the rest) is what's really shooting men in the foot, because it leads to complacency.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 02:14 AM
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Isn't it obvious? You wouldn't. And what's worse, women are incentivised to treat men badly both directly in the form of cash and prizes, but also by the cultural milieu. Putting percentages on it would be pointless: it's like asking someone in Soviet Russia what percentage of the population they would or wouldn't have trusted to turn them into the regime out of spite or ill-will.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 02:09 AM
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If older women were really that "empathetic," why don't they seem to get around to warning men about women who are likely to ruin their lives?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 03:31 PM
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For the average person, the more significant looksmaxxing they can do is often just losing weight. No gym even necessary, just walk more and eat less. This goes for both sexes, by the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:08 AM
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Precisely. While I'm moderately blackpilled and how you look makes a big difference to how you're perceived, at the same time for the vast majority of people context will matter, a lot. A 5/10 man can sit at a bar and start a conversation (or at least pass a few remarks) with precisely the same attractive chick who would be reaching for her mace if he approached her out of the blue in a park or at a bus stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:02 AM
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Thing is, increasingly that's what most men eligible attractive and of any age want, under current conditions. Obviously hot young women have more potential suitors who would marry them than older women, but a much smaller proportion of men want to get married anymore at all. MGTOW/incel memes about what a raw deal marriage is have actually worked, even if most men are savvy enough to play dumb in public. To be fair, increasingly there are more women who don't want to settle either, and don't ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 02:54 PM
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Don't worry, your government will just import millions of men from India and Africa who will be happy to settle for the bobs and vegene you won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 02:51 PM
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Huh, personally I would always tell people when I get a good deal/something cheap, because it seems savvier/smarter.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 04:39 AM
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I mean, obviously the difference is that men can say no to sex and survive (probably even be healthier especially with all the bugs floating around these days) but can't say no to food without dying. Young testosterone-charged men won't obviously, but that's a bit different.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:08 AM
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Men have a lack of respect for weakness, don’t they. Men are more likely to bully and make fun of gay men, to get angry or show disgust when they see a man crying, to tell other men to “man up” and “be stoic”, etc. Want to take it back? Or are you saying that only men are like this/men are more like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:07 AM
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Men have a lack of respect for weakness, don’t they. Men are more likely to bully and make fun of gay men, to get angry or show disgust when they see a man crying, to tell other men to “man up” and “be stoic”, etc. What have men done about this? Invent the concepts of democracy and republican government, for two. As well as human rights. I mean, I agree with you that the natural instinct is to despise a weak man. What makes it more dangerous with women is that it's a sexual thing, too. Men have …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 09:53 AM
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I actually think you are correct, to an extent; women know how men increasingly feel about feminism, and they worry about the possibility of recent gains being reversed, even if it's increasingly unlikely. The fact that men might have genuine grievances doesn't make them more conciliatory, but the reverse. It's sort of analogous to how the Paris mob in the 1790s felt about aristocrats whose families they had wronged. Putting yourself in their shoes and understanding why they continued to oppose …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 07:46 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 06:57 AM
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this framework isn't going anywhere, so the best we can do is try to be achieve justice within it You are delusional and coping. You will continue to lose more and more rights and freedoms. The more women realise that most men genuinely are oppressed (by themselves), the more contempt and loathing they will have for (most) mens' weakness, and the more they will seek to make their lives worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 06:49 AM
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Ironically, claims of victimhood by groups often really are demonstrations of power. This seems paradoxical, but it makes sense: groups that are really beaten down are too intimidated to complain, certainly in public. (March 1977) "Good morning Mr. Coetzee, how do you feel about life in South Africa today? Is there a future for whites?" "Well, I'm bloody frightened, Mandela and all the terrorists really have the dangerous elements among the blacks all stirred up now, policemen are losing their l…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 06:42 AM
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Therefore, there’s nothing you can really do to subvert this. It’s based on history. Only once a enough time has passed and the “patriarchy” is just a distant memory will women/society start to view men in a completely different light. This is too optimistic. The dark reality is that women have a natural contempt for men they have power over. To be fair, you could say everyone in a position of power does, but in the case of women and their feelings towards men, it's particularly acute, because w…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 06:26 AM
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Yes, but I'm not just talking about sexual success here per se, I'm talking about social judgment. The average person, even the nominal bluepills, actually does understand that the thing is different for the average man vs. the average woman. Some disgruntled men have this idea that men are in every respect judged more harshly than women, but this is not quite true. A man, even in this PC, 21st century age is judged on his sexual attractiveness, yes, but even today his is still also evaluated on…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 05:52 AM
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No simp here I swear, but tbh I think the reason why women feel like they are judged as harshly for social failure even though this seems so obviously not true to so many men is because these things are all relative. In addition, women are covertly judging each other more harshly than men are judging them. Most blue and purple pill men see a mediocre woman married to a (perhaps a little bit less) mediocre man and think very little about them one way or the other. Women, on the other hand, judge …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 02:09 AM
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Having this mindset in western society is a sure way to attract the worst type of men, like narcissists who want to have control over others. Is it just me, or is this kind of thing a bit of a projection? Women want to have the whiphand/sword of Damocles/[choose your analogy] in relationships and indeed gloat all the time about the fact that for various social reasons they for the most part do in the modern world especially in marriage, and so they freak out at the idea of a man or men somehow g…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 04:39 PM
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The 'cos they're mean theory is superficially plausible, but doesn't quite get to the heart of the matter. Why do I say that? Consider the mainstream view in academia and the MSM when it comes to, well, the legacy of men, and of Western civilisation generally. It's fair to say that it's overall quite a dark, pitiless and derogatory narrative, but a lot of people are pretty comfortable and okay with that. The more compelling explanation, then, is simply that the theories are controversial because…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 04:57 PM
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Not every man. But men in their 30s and 40s who suddenly get chatted up by party girls in their age group who now have baby rabies and want to get married? Quite likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 04:38 PM
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BTW, I'm not sure how natural competing actually is. It's almost heresy now to say it, but for most people throughout much if not most of history, they weren't (either in reality, or just in their minds) on some epic libertarian quest to either "climb the ladder" at some corporation, or become a powerful warlord or something. They lived in some medieval village, in a communal setting, where they worked for common goals, with their close kin. Their "job" was largely hereditary: they were peasants…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 04:34 PM
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get the woman It's simple, but not easy. If someone settles for you, they will resent you. An awful lot of these improovercels will still only "qualify" for the mid-30s, I've-had-my-fun,-it's-time-to-settle-down-now women, even after competing and doing all the meme right things. Picture it: dudes who worked out furiously, fellated the bosses for years to get enough money together, bought a lot of expensive clothes and all that stuff... and at the end of it all, they still end up settled for. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 04:26 PM
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You're not, perhaps; but some guy might well be thirsty enough to drive an hour to meet you. Plus, even without traveling that far, dating apps still make it more convenient and less awkward to meet (some of) the teeming masses we're surrounded by but mostly don't communicate with unless we have some connection. In the past, unless you were particularly forward or extroverted, you'd mostly end up meeting people at social venues, i.e. socialising almost exclusively in well, social circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 04:20 PM
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Hasn't this topic been run into the ground at this point? But anyway, what it comes down to is that the TRP, fuzzy-hatted PUA line when it comes to marriage being an increasingly bad deal for men starting in the late 19th century and accelerating in the 1960s and 1970s was it's fuck or get fucked, marriage sucks so have your fun, enjoy the decline. Thing is, women saw what was happening, and have moved to nip that shit in the bud. They've retaliated with MeToo and cancel culture, facilitated by …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 03:40 PM
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This is massive cope dude. Even if just 10% of young women were on dating apps at any given time (and remember, women can join, chat with/meet a lot of guys and then stop using it for a while), that still has a massive impact. Indeed, women just even trying the apps or knowing they exist and better, willing men are the touch of a button away is enough to make them see the average bloke on the street differently. And by differently, I mean less respectfully and positively, let's keep it real here…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 02:46 PM
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Even in the telegraph era, it was still impractical for a woman to be in contact with more than, say, a baker's dozen men at any one time. Back then, even the most flirtatious and promiscuous woman was unlikely to go on dates with more than a few men a week. You had to meet people in person unless you wanted to make (expensive) phonecalls or send (slow and inconvenient) letters. This meant that to interact with men, you would for the most part have to meet with them; and while secretive liasons …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 02:01 PM
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I know what you mean, and obviously there are some men who literally can't be MeToo'd. But this definition of Chad would be considerably more restricted than the definition most people work with. In the real world, attractive guys get ugly and charmless, which is when the old harpies come out to stick in the proverbial daggers. I made a comment about this very question a few months ago. With this new, more restrictive definition of Chad, we apparently no longer mean the gymbro or handsome douche…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 01:51 PM
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I don't believe I actually mentioned anything about that; just to say that improved transport and communications have likely made dating and marriage much more competitive overall, which I believe to be the case. I mean, do you disagree? It seems like you are taking issue with the possible implications of and reactions to what I'm saying here, rather than the content.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 12:41 PM
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Go back far enough, though, and physically going to another city wasn't actually that easy. We are at the tail end of a very long process (drastic improvements in transport and communications) that has been going on for centuries. Before the railway, it could take between one and four days to reach London from Birmingham. It certainly is not the case that the average man was "always" competing with hordes of men in other cities and regions of his country and the world. Obviously, it did happen, …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 11:25 AM
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The average guy at this age, is generally a fat mess, so it is easier to deal with competition. How? You still have to compete with younger guys regardless of what age you are, meaning there's still at least as much competition as there always was (women your age can date young guys just like their same- and similar-age peers, even if it doesn't turn into anything serious). If what you're saying is that it's easier for you to get specifically into long-term relationships with women in your 30s a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 11:13 AM
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You'll be accused of being a delusional old guy oblivious to the march of Father Time; but that's not all there is to it. Clearly women always wanted top men but that often meant in their local area or social circle; even in a big city you had to physically get out there and seek out the parties and places where eligible bachelors were likely to be found. Now they can just swipe their way onto attractive mens' laps efficiently, easily, and with literally the touch of a button.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 11:09 AM
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There's a very, very big difference. In a vaguely social situation like your average pub bar, as an average or even unattractive man, you can easily talk to women in context and get an affable response, as long as you're not a massive creep (yeah yeah I know about the sexual harassment meme with the fat guy at the office, but we're talking relative terms here). You do the same thing on the street and it really is 50/50 she gets out the mace, calls the fuzz, or tells you to f___ off or whatever a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 11:05 AM
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Chad is not God. I mean, if you define Chad as God, then he is; but by the more conventional definition (an attractive man who gets a lot of positive attention and love from women), then no, he isn't. Chad can be babytrapped. Chad can be MeToo'd. Chad can get STDs. And when bad things happen to Chad, it's a long way down. Seriously though, while it's funny, I am getting a bit tired of the meme. Having giant muscles, a capeshit-tier jaw, blue eyes, glowing green pants, and a red shirt with OUCH! …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 10:59 AM
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The best way to looksmax your kids is to marry someone really hot. The rest of that stuff is mostly hellishly dystopian. Exercise, good diet, enough sleep + grooming, clean fitting clothes; if you need more than that to keep up society is fucked and time to take the Tedpill and run away into the wilderness.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 11:19 AM
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It's different when the sexes are the other way around, so while relevant to this discussion in theory, in practice it's not. I feel quite confident that if Macron was the proverbial cradle-robber in the relationship, he wouldn't have been able to become president. Macron having been initiated by an older women is perceived as harmless and amusing by most men, and is positively flattering to a lot of especially older women; the other way around and we know what the reaction would have been. Not …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 09:02 AM
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How do you feel about men who are trapped in arrangements with women they aren't sexually attracted to, out of fear of punishing divorce settlements?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 09:00 AM
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RemindMe! 40 years from now, when the age of consent is 28 for all men over 35 (Romeo and Juliet clauses), guys on PPD will be whining about how roasties are looking at them sideways for dating down more than five years and how anything over 28 is natural, it's science innit? A few brave souls will make shocking Leo DiCaprio jokes and receive a torrent of Why don't you take a seat over there? and Officer, this guy right here replies.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 08:58 AM
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I think you're wrong; even though most guys are quiet about it because they don't want to be associated with icky MGTOW incel terrorists or whatever, the mainstream view of marriage is much more negative now. Both because a woman is not a necessity in your life the way one used to be (we have washing machines, UberEats, and vacuum cleaners now), and because understanding of how bad marriage and other feminist laws are for men is at this point common knowledge. Again, talking about it especially …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 04:33 AM
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Because in a post-religious, liberal society, it's harder to justify stopping people from doing what they want unless you can somehow suggest that it's exceptionally and immediately harmful and dangerous. The nominally individualistic and liberal mores of our society mean that older arguments about propriety, encouraging people to follow norms, and group interests rub people the wrong way, so the newer arguments have to start from a different place. Ironically, in the really old days it was in p…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 04:11 AM
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Most people don't concealed carry all the time though. Even in relatively safe countries and places (think of even relatively safe parts of Europe like Ireland or Wales, or overall safer states/provinces and smaller cities in the US and Canada), if you are someone who goes out at night for example, you can if you're unlucky quite possibly get yourself into a situation where being bigger and more threatening might save you from serious injury or even death.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 04:17 PM
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All authority ultimately rests on violence, so men who are able to wield violence themselves will always enjoy higher status than those who aren't. And why would it be any other way? Why should it? Any man who himself doesn't wield violence is subject to other men who do. This is an absolute rule. B-but why are they attracted to criminals? Criminals are essentially men who challenge the authority and monopoly on power of the State. The murderer defies the State's monopoly on violence; the tax-ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 06:38 AM
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A man who is a little rough is at least somewhat more likely to be capable of being roused to anger in defence of woman and child. A man who is totally harmless like a puppy is 100% never going to harm you, but is also more likely to be unable to defend you, either. This is not as relevant to people who live in relatively safe places with efficient and capable police forces as well as mostly diffident and harmless people, but we've only had either for around 100 years and so primal instincts don…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 06:34 AM
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